td2-general-chat

[brittle copper]

Well, I'm not doing legendary anytime soon, nor am I gonna run with a party until I feel more geared and can solo Heroic at least. I guess I'll stick with harder difficulties then

[hexed moss]

@brittle copper try countdown in heroic then it'll be easier

[foggy cape]

I love that this flamethrower just disables cover and hits me regardless

[elfin hazel]

I found that emp pulse actually jams sparkle

[foggy cape]

it doesnt

that was the very first thing I tried

[elfin hazel]

sorry not pulse

sticky bomb

[hexed moss]

@foggy cape bruh right now you're just hurting yourself, just find a group

[elfin hazel]

pulse doesnt sticky emp does for a good bit longer

[hexed moss]

@elfin hazel EMP disables its weapons but it can still move

[brittle copper]

Sparkle wasn't that hard... I just kept running away in circles and spamming decoy, attacking only when it was distracted

[lofty breach]

is this side mission bugged?

[elfin hazel]

yeah still better than being 1 hit

yes its bugged workaround is here

[hexed moss]

yee skip the second cutscene where you can count the pixels

[fathom lynx]

is the entire stovepipe mission nothing but drones

[neat sedge]

Sparkle is overtuned

[plain trail]

Do you have a coherent build

That generally helps a bit

[jagged canyon]

Yep

[fathom lynx]

christ

i killed 1 helicopter and got smoked by the second

[surreal orbit]

Yup, definitely not getting “event” double XP….. standard Ubisoft BS….

[jagged canyon]

Drones, warhounds, mini tanks and turrets

[clever blade]

lmao bro

[fathom lynx]

is it doable solo u think

[jagged canyon]

Oh and emp jammers

[jagged canyon]

Difficulty?

[clever blade]

the final mission+cutscenes is bugged, so you HAVE to run it twice

[fathom lynx]

im on heroic

[frozen meadow]

thats a lie

The final objective is outside mission area. Basically while you're watching a cutscene your character fails the objective for staying outside the zone for too long.

Dodge rolling back into the zone fixes it

[jagged canyon]

It's possible but you'll hate yourself for doing it

[neat sedge]

Sparkles attacks are weird, they are somehow both fire and bullet damage, went in with a 100% burn resist and she still shred me with fire

[fathom lynx]

im with my friend but all he can do really is heal me

[clever blade]

You literally have to skip the final cutscene or you get that glitched instance and it throws you back into the mission start

[fathom lynx]

he doesnt do shit for damage

[frozen meadow]

good luck youll need it

boss has tidal turret-tier health

[jagged canyon]

Don't spoil it

He's gotta get threw the aggony just like the rest of us

[clever blade]

"I suffered therefore you must now suffer"

Any parent who says "this is how we did it back then, its how you have to do it now"

[azure lintel]

lmfao at this warhound

[fathom lynx]

yes

[frozen meadow]

what does that accomplish lol

[azure lintel]

full striker loadout, entire magazine of 100 stack police m4 does maybe 1/40th of his healthbar

this is kind of dumb tbh

[frozen meadow]

ratio

[broken plume]

Got a Merciless from the Hostage Rescue in West End... didn't know you could get rewarded exotics

[frozen meadow]

you can get exotics just about anywhere

[broken plume]

I mean... I know now. Just never had it happen until now

[jagged canyon]

I'm evil remember

[torpid plume]

Apart from the annoying bugs and game breaking cutscene the finale to this season is very good and the mission was designed well.

[clever blade]

Yeah no, there is nothing I can do to fix the finale

ridiculous

[foggy cape]

tfw they didnt even have time to put your character into the final cutscene lmao

[lofty breach]

I'm still having trouble with it. when should you be rolling??

[frozen meadow]

away

[lofty breach]

like right before the cutscene?

[frozen meadow]

yes

[clever blade]

didnt work for me, ran the mission 4 times

[frozen meadow]

im vibing in my hardcore world rn

its so nice when the white house isnt explodered

[clever blade]

Ubi needs to sort this out

[frozen meadow]

they said they are working on it smh

[clever blade]

I demand compensation, in terms of a hunter mask with an actual veil

[rain hedge]

helloo

[frozen meadow]

sigh

[rain hedge]

i demand being able to rename enemies

i still want to call hunters ‘furries’

[frozen meadow]

i demand an insta kill weapon

[lime fulcrum]

did ya try the skip the last cutscene?! 🤔

[clever blade]

I also demand Alex Jones as a cameo in the game

[rain hedge]

that’s just the regulus

[clever blade]

yup, and tried rolling away from the white house

multiple attempts bud

[frozen meadow]

someones a regulus simp

[lime fulcrum]

skip worked for me tho second try.

[frozen meadow]

this is gonna be stupid af but

lower your fps cap to 20

[rain hedge]

oh i despise the regulus

conflict matches

[frozen meadow]

TRUST ME I KNOW WHAT IM SAYING

[clever blade]

want me to also invert my settings? 👀

[torpid plume]

I second this, I also need an infowars backpack trophy.

[frozen meadow]

nope just fps

[rain hedge]

i can’t fps cap bc of cloud gaming

[frozen meadow]

theres an in-game setting for fps cap

[rain hedge]

it dont save :(

[frozen meadow]

wdym

[errant forge]

Bruh, did I just wait months to get a new transmog for maybe one outfit and a OK bp trophy

[rain hedge]

like graphics and fps cap

[frozen meadow]

the setting doesnt save...?

[rain hedge]

nope, idk why

for UI and gameplay stuff it does, graphics and fps nope

[frozen meadow]

oh my gorsh did i spend months doing nothing just to not get something cool for free, oh the humanity

[brittle copper]

Well I dunno about coherent, but I'm running strikers with an assault rifle. All red, admittedly not much CHC or CHD cos' I'm still new and the gear pieces aren't optimal rolls

[errant forge]

It's fine but I feel a explosive exotic or some type of explosive chest would be there since we got an exotic for seasons 9 and 10 manhunt

[rain hedge]

they should give us max out materials as compensation mhm i’m full of huge ideas

[frozen meadow]

i swear people can never be content

always gotta have more more more

[rain hedge]

im being sarcastic btw

[frozen meadow]

i know

the problem is people are genuinely like that

[rain hedge]

i know the devs are trying

[errant forge]

? Just saying they broke their new tradition they seemed to be making

[neat sedge]

any work arounds for the cycling cutscene?

[frozen meadow]

it wasnt tradition if they did it twice lmfao

[frozen meadow]

The final objective is outside mission area. Basically while you're watching a cutscene your character fails the objective for staying outside the zone for too long.

Dodge rolling back into the zone fixes it

[neat sedge]

aigh

[errant forge]

But it made sense since the mh weren't about rogues no more so no more skills

[proud locust]

Poor stovepipe he became a martyr and pinned the blame on us

[neat sedge]

thanks Eevee

[torpid plume]

Facts

[proud locust]

This is the same move that Faye did when she executed Ellis

[frozen meadow]

but it made sense that we got a cosmetic because ||he was dead when we got there||

[neat sedge]

stuff like that is better put in #division-universe not in here as its spoilers

[rain hedge]

yeah there was nothing really shown so there’s not much the vest can do

[frozen meadow]

the literal purpose of manhunts is to not be the same thing over and over, so why are we mad the same thing didnt happen over and over

its because people would be mad the same happened over and over

[errant forge]

But Anderson escaped and we still got a exotic

[jagged canyon]

This chat has done nothing but talk about the new stuff for the last 6 hours as far as I'm aware

So it's a bit late for that

[proud locust]

Actually I kinda noticed that when we arrived at him

[errant forge]

It was mostly the same thing mission wise, it's just dumb the reward is so awful, I still think div mh better than Destiny seasons by a long shot

[frozen meadow]

it wasnt the same thing mission wise. at all

[jagged canyon]

We really just stole the clothes off of a dead man

[proud locust]

I was still right that it was gonna be conely Island

[frozen meadow]

sorrry wrong reply lol

[elfin hazel]

we've done it before

[jagged canyon]

True

[frozen meadow]

whats funny is i had a dream the white house got mortared by black tusk last week

[vague pecan]

hunters fury chest/backpack is literally dead agent watches so

[errant forge]

Same areas

[proud locust]

It makes sense on why conely island is the perfect place for mortar strike

[errant forge]

It's cool but it doesn't DO anything

[frozen meadow]

if your expecting a brand new mission area with fully done brand new models then youre out of luck

[jagged canyon]

Ferro, barret, bliss, ridgeway

[frozen meadow]

i was thinking jefferson plaza

or darpa

[errant forge]

No? I said I don't have a prob w/ the mh, I'm just saying they are always the same with minor changes

[rain hedge]

i was thinking somewhere close

[proud locust]

Jefferson plaza is way too close and can be at division radar in seconds

[jagged canyon]

We need some new faction themed apparel

[frozen meadow]

not darpa

[vague pecan]

y5 brings in "seasons 2.0" whatever that means

so we might get a different pattern

[frozen meadow]

WE NEED NEW RAIDS MATE

NEW RAIDS NEW RAIDS NEW RAIDS NEW RAIDS NEW RAIDS

[jagged canyon]

Yeah I've asked for that. Not happening

[proud locust]

The pentagon is also a no mortar zone due to a lot of stuff there

[rain hedge]

agreed

[errant forge]

Incursions and expeditions!

[rain hedge]

i like invasion but man they could’ve done the hyenas better

[jagged canyon]

You can get incursions. Take it or leave it

[frozen meadow]

no i want RAIDS

[proud locust]

What we need is escalation from division1

[frozen meadow]

:(

[frozen meadow]

summit

[vague pecan]

escalation?

[rain hedge]

me and the boys spending 27 hours trying the solve the new raid

[jagged canyon]

Escalation?

[bitter wraith]

How do you die on challenging within seconds of each other?

[errant forge]

Sorry but summit is better than underground IMHO

[frozen meadow]

banned blocked reported

[bitter wraith]

4 people all downed within 20 seconds by ONE challenging hunter

[jagged canyon]

I'm a div 1 vet and idk what escalation is

[frozen meadow]

literrally wrong opinion

[proud locust]

Escalation is that mini raid mission that requires 4 people to do it

[rain hedge]

• leaked information

[errant forge]

I meant underground

[frozen meadow]

no thats incursion

[proud locust]

Oh

[frozen meadow]

descent lol

[jagged canyon]

They're called incursions

[proud locust]

Incursions right

[vague pecan]

descent is nothing like underground

[frozen meadow]

idfk i never did pts

[vague pecan]

but i have to disagree, underground was much better than summit

[proud locust]

We still need mini raids like incursions

[frozen meadow]

nor did i play underground xD

[proud locust]

I have

[frozen meadow]

they are adding them in two seasons

[errant forge]

U got nothing for it and it was tooo easy

[rain hedge]

i hope the outcast incursion is somewhere or something cool, theme wise

[frozen meadow]

summit isnt easy?

[vague pecan]

rewards were pretty bad yea but so is summit, and you had random hunter encounters which were always much more engaging

[frozen meadow]

plot twist the incursions are 8 player

[proud locust]

Underground is like summit

[rain hedge]

i don’t want apc cod zombie waves

[errant forge]

It's easy but not easier than underground

[jagged canyon]

Btw Y5S2 incursion looks fire. They said it was cleaners as the enemies

Last time they had an incursion we fought a literal firetruck

[rain hedge]

i thought it was outcasts

[proud locust]

Basically there were 4 incursions

[jagged canyon]

4

[frozen meadow]

i never did incursions

[proud locust]

Two riker ones an LMB, and the cleaners

[vague pecan]

incursions were just 4 man raids

[rain hedge]

with some you can solo

[proud locust]

They were much simpler and less of a headache for 8 players

[errant forge]

Sparkle was such a pain solo on heroic

[jagged canyon]

Falcon lost, clear sky, drangons nest and stolen signsl

[rain hedge]

falcon lost was tedious tho

[errant forge]

I got deep fried 4 times

[jagged canyon]

Why

[fathom lynx]

bro fuck sparkle

[proud locust]

Tell me about it it’s the first time I get roasted on a manhunt hard

[rain hedge]

waiting for c4 to drop

[fathom lynx]

its just rushing me and setting me on fire

[jagged canyon]

Fair enough

[proud locust]

Almost like a raid boss

[errant forge]

His damage is ballistic and stays😢

[errant forge]

Use a dps (mainly striker) and decoy, use decoy then shoot him cause he agro on decoy

[jagged canyon]

I think sparkle sets a bar for new bosses. Mission bosses should have something special to them and not just be reskined enemies

[proud locust]

I was forced to use a distance loadout cuss CQC is useless against sparkles unless you have someone with drones to back you up

[errant forge]

I just through on my striker and cod zombies trained him

[proud locust]

Im guessing this is the consequences we get for farming on the lau manhunt too many times

[fathom lynx]

i have a strong dps ill use the decoy

[errant forge]

Strikers battlegear*

[errant forge]

Try not to use glass canon

[fathom lynx]

i dont use glass cannon

[errant forge]

Also he spawns drones at half healtg

[plain trail]

Yeah so if you fix your gear you should be able to do reasonable dmg

[jagged canyon]

Ngl I would like to meet the head of Black Tusk R&D and ask him what he was thinking Green lighting sparkle

[fathom lynx]

got it

[errant forge]

Only shoot him when he is on agro on decoy

[ashen urchin]

I don’t get optimization. Why would I only get a 0.1% increase in any attribute

[plain trail]

Optimization is the last thing you do

[vague pecan]

it's called "minmaxing"

[plain trail]

Its meant to be expensive

[vague pecan]

and is a staple of any RPG ever made

[cinder nacelle]

Because missing .9% percent on your otherwise god-rolled item will drive you mad in the end.

[vague pecan]

when you have the exact gear and build you want, you maximise everything you possibly can about it so that it is performing to its maximum potential

[surreal orbit]

Woo Hoo!!! Resource convoys are back to double XP!!! No exploiting them apples!!!…. And of course @frozen meadow will still think it’s MmmmBad…. 🤣😆😂

[cinder nacelle]

Plus chest pieces and backpack can be really tricky to roll out the exact way you want then and optimisation can fix that.

[fathom lynx]

sparkle is dead

[spark charm]

anyone has issue with the manhunt final in WH even after hitting "F" to skip the cutscene, mission still failed?

[fathom lynx]

objective failed bruh

[spark charm]

I was told skipping the cutscene supposes to get you passed which is not my case. tried a few times. dev really screwed up

now my character stucks in this hell loop

[plain trail]

I still need to farm like 100 cps

Need to unlock true sons tactical crafting recipe

[fathom lynx]

sprint as soon as u get in

[bitter wraith]

How do low levels not understand that skill builds (especially with hackable skills) are useless in countdown?

I'm never doing another countdown with anyone lower than 500 shd again

[fathom lynx]

im 178 and my build is better than most 1k+

[bitter wraith]

Could've succeeded on both extractions but no half my team dies the SECOND we get to the hunters

[bitter wraith]

Tbh some 500+ people are clueless as well. Time to do heroic (with a group in the thousands)

[spark charm]

really nothing to do with level, but the player. I have seen good player with level in 2-digits, then some in thousands still doesn't know they should not go to VIP missions. skill build too.

[bitter wraith]

The amount of people using striker drones is ridiculous lol

[spark charm]

group play with random always has this risk, countdown and raid just more prone to this.

[foggy cape]

lmao

[bitter wraith]

Literally though. 3 CDs back to back. 1st goes fine as it usually does. Second? 4 or 5 die at the FIRST extraction hunter and the rest get wiped out by a SHD 25s tier 6 drone. Third? Same thing without the hunters shooting - group wiped by tier 6 drone AND artillery turret

[errant forge]

Congratulations

[bitter wraith]

Could've got that final build piece but low levels said not yet so I guess I'll have to keep trying

What's H2P?

[fathom lynx]

high levels i find are usually always braindead. with trash ass builds

[lament mirage]

Enjoy

[bitter wraith]

True lol

I just use umbra with a flatline shotgun and annihilate everything that's not a player

Works every time

[rain hedge]

umbreon go brr

[bitter wraith]

Oh and a vector sbr which really does go BRRRRRRR

Unfortunately no FL only optimist

[bitter wraith]

FAL SA58 with flatline, tech laser, expertise 15, headshots in pvp? Melts in less than a second

Useful against tanks too

[fathom lynx]

why am i a placeholder character

in this cutscene

[elfin hazel]

thats agent sanders from the start of the game & pentagon

[rain hedge]

it’s a video

[fathom lynx]

ohhhhh ok

[rain hedge]

so iirc it’s switches from in game to a video

[fathom lynx]

it does i thought i was a placeholder lol

[rain hedge]

i thought it was intentional but it turns out it wasn’t

[fathom lynx]

bro the fucking cutscene. i have to restart

[rain hedge]

umbreon initiative go brrr is just so much fun

i think the weirdest use of it was someone running scorpio with it

[karmic meadow]

I've done stuff with people in the 2-5k range who are just as clueless as well. Im lvl 1700 and got a dope a** armor on kill/Regen/protection from elites build that I solo legendaries with. I go in with a group of 2-5ks and it's a 💩 show half the time.

[fathom lynx]

how has this update been out all day and no fix for the cutscenes failing the mission

[clever blade]

Pretty cute seeing a SHD elitist take. I'm 151 SHD and my build is better than most people sitting in the 1000s. Don't let a bad experience cause you to become a player people won't want to associate with. Maybe try helping people with builds, idk

[bitter wraith]

I send people messages suggesting they change their build...they don't listen though lmao

[elfin hazel]

because fixes take a lot longer than under a day

[bitter wraith]

There was one guy who seemed new to post WONY

[clever blade]

Sending a message, and trying to sit down with someone and help them is different. Regardless, don't be a SHD elitist snob

[bitter wraith]

Using striker

[bitter wraith]

I might switch back to full red HB up until the extraction because that thing deletes enemies (2.8 mil a shot usually)

0 armour but worth it

[karmic meadow]

I know it wasn't directed to me, but I have numerous times tried to help people with builds and @bitter wraith is right they don't listen. I was in with a guy last night actually with a 5 piece striker build and Ridgeway pride. Lvl 4k+ said it's OP and died religiously. I recommend ninja backpack and armor Regen and armor. Nope, said I was trash bc I'm a 1700 😂 just cuz you got a high SHD rank doesn't mean you have brains.

[fathom lynx]

im using red hb with a blue chest for a little bit of armor

i had 0 issues on legendary summit

[undone timber]

I'm shd 270 ish and I like to think I'm a good asset to the team too 😭

[rain hedge]

shd elitists are sad

why i run FI

[frozen meadow]

almost to shd 100 on hc

[clever blade]

You're proving my point regardless; that guy was a SHD snob, and got railed the entire game because he wasn't willing to get feedback from people. Instead of being a snob and saying: "You're not 1k+ SHD so I won't let you in this lobby" is pathetic tbh

[rain hedge]

yay

[undone timber]

Impressive

[frozen meadow]

at 97 rn

[lament mirage]

Congrats girl

[frozen meadow]

just running through some 5d classifieds

[lament mirage]

What’s ur goal?

[rain hedge]

congratttt!!

[undone timber]

Classifieds have directives now?

[frozen meadow]

yeah it gives same xp as side missions

[vague pecan]

i don't know whether 5pc striker or ninja armor regen striker is worse

[karmic meadow]

I see his point, half the people who are low don't have the watch maxed out either for full benefits of all the perks so it's basically a hard carry.

[undone timber]

Oh cool they used to be a breeze lol

[undone timber]

You can not have your watch maxed out and still have an effective build though

I'm barely a quarter done and I still have the 50/150

[clever blade]

Okay but that's just profiling lmao "You're not 1k SHD so clearly you don't know what you're doing" Nearly every bad encounter I've had with players have been high SHD players who pull the "Well your build is trash and you're a low level" instead of TRYING to help them. I'm sorry but Doom doesn't have a point, no one has a point if they're going to begin to be an SHD elitist

[karmic meadow]

True, but half these dudes dont

[bitter wraith]

That last line depends on how good their build looks and whether it looks like it works - plus whether they have hackable skills

But ye I get what you mean

[clever blade]

Not even to mention it's on the topic of countdown lmao, maybe people are using countdown to get items to make a build, but yes start booting them from lobbies because they don't already have a build, and or doesn't meet your SHD wants

[undone timber]

Shd 1k + players are clueless too cough cough white oak

[timber lagoon]

I have full red max roll build but as a lvl 240 i still get kicked from heroric countdown lobbies

[vague pecan]

dont do heroic countdown

challenging is the farming difficulty. heroic is the organised activity.

[undone timber]

Heroic countdown seems pointless tbh

[clever blade]

It doesn't matter how "good" someone build looks, if you don't know how it works, it might like bad to you; yet it could also be a godsend build lmfao
There is literally zero justification to "I'm gonna become a SHD elitist"
G'day lol

[undone timber]

Unless in a group

[karmic meadow]

I just came back after a year off. Heard of the glitch they were doing

[rain hedge]

sees status effect is on, still spamming banshee pulse on hunters and getting axe’d

[bitter wraith]

They called you trash for suggesting a build?

[neat sedge]

honestly this feels like something that they should have all hands on deck to hotfix asap not in a week or twos time

[bitter wraith]

Well...slightly changing a build

[undone timber]

Bro I can't count the number of times my sub group pulls up to the hunters with a Scorpio while that measure is still on

[bitter wraith]

Oxidiser builds are fun (remembers I don't actually have one)

[rain hedge]

for me it’s surprisingly 1k+ on shds which is why i don’t judge ppl off of shd levels

[undone timber]

Yeah I see players of all shd levels making dumb plays

[karmic meadow]

Yeah, it was laughable watching a 4k+ talk trash and die religiously.

[bitter wraith]

The people with Scorpio are so useful. Allows me to 3 shot each hunter so we don't get drilled

[undone timber]

Point is your shd level doesn't really matter that much

[clever blade]

lolk

[bitter wraith]

lmao. Similar to what happened earlier but the opposite

[undone timber]

For sure but not to the point where you kick out people just for being relatively low shd

in countdown too

[karmic meadow]

I agree.

[bitter wraith]

Literally watched half my team fall like dominos

[clever blade]

In countdown of ALL things lmfaooo

[foggy cape]

tragic

move onto the next one and forget about it lmao

[undone timber]

It's a mode where you can have like 3 people carry the entire thing

[frozen meadow]

not in heroic

[vague pecan]

not in heroic

[frozen meadow]

jinx

[plain trail]

yeah but i can see a drone/turret build and automatically know it's not a godsent build in countdown lol

[vague pecan]

are you the same guys that queue up for legendary at shd 30

[undone timber]

Yeah not heroic but at least challenging

[bitter wraith]

This. This is literally countdown. If one fails, and the next then one is guaranteed not to

[undone timber]

I tried solo once and never again

[frozen meadow]

if one fails

youre fucked

me on hc

[bitter wraith]

And then die when they get shredded by the tanks in the corridor

[bitter wraith]

Me trying to get a item with specific stats like:

[plain trail]

it's just very basic gatekeeping lol.

why bother checking gear for everyone when you just can boot everyone under certain level

[rain hedge]

me who doesn’t know what the bosses do

[plain trail]

to almost 99% guarantee no issues

[clever blade]

because that makes you literal scum?

[frozen meadow]

i mean hes not wrong

[bitter wraith]

Rarely I see a SHD level 20 that has something like striker or umbra and I'm like...this is acceptable

[plain trail]

it is not a nice thing to do. but if their objective is to play with people who know what they're doing.

[undone timber]

I mean it's just one guy 😭

[plain trail]

i dont fundamentally think they're being "scum"

[frozen meadow]

go away troll

[clever blade]

that's greatly exaggerated lol I have seen team on top of team who are in the upper 500-2000 running builds that are absolute crap lmfao

[plain trail]

yeah but my goal isn't to play with people who only have good builds

[bitter wraith]

Whats ironic is the people who I think will do 0 damage end up 1 shotting half the enemies

[plain trail]

but goal is to not play with ppl who are running drone/turret or don't know what to do.

and 99% of the time it works.

[undone timber]

This tbh

[clever blade]

Gauging "knowing what to do" based off SHD is the most ridiculous thing, check their commendation scores lmfao that's how you find experience.

[soft knoll]

Suggest you re-read the rules then.

[plain trail]

i don't think it's ridiculous lmao. i think it's pretty reasonable

[frozen meadow]

#rules

[clever blade]

ESPECIALLY given the Camp White Oak, Summit, etc XP glitches

[azure lintel]

They took my beloved Drone Controller. All Black Tusk must now die.

[plain trail]

someone who is higher level will probably have more experience playing the game.

[undone timber]

[rain hedge]

i have literally seen high level shds push hunters then go down and leave

because status effect was on

[plain trail]

and i dont need someone who has a billion levels, I just need someone who is not a first timer on countdown.

[undone timber]

Literally all they know how to do is shoot an oxidizer

[bitter wraith]

Me who uses a tank regeneration build running in circles trying not to get whacked by the fat guy in a metal armoured suit holding a mini gun with a portable hive

[rain hedge]

so why assume that on shd, levels take a while

[plain trail]

like i think you're projecting very hard because nobody actually cares about how good someone's build is when they kick

[clever blade]

Someone who has 1000 SHD and are under tier IV for commendations, does not have more experience than someone that's 200 SHD with tier VI commendation. lmao

[plain trail]

they just dont want to play with someone who is new

[vague pecan]

commendation scores dont mean shit, that's just achievement hunting. i will always inspect a player to look at their build. build craft is experience in this game. you can still be bad, but if you have a correct build, you can still be an asset

[plain trail]

yes... it is entirely possible that the 200SHD is more skilled than 2000SHD. but the 200SHD is new, so i will kick them

because i dont want to play with someone new lol

[clever blade]

commendations are actually based off gameplay, teamwork, etc???? But ok lol

[plain trail]

like you're not getting it.

[vague pecan]

some are, but lots arent

[plain trail]

you think it's because people are kicking because of skill or build... it's not. they just dont want to play with new players

[azure lintel]

I'm SHD 11k through being an absolutely D2 loser - that being said, low SHD levels are far more likely to be needing carries than high SHD levels who probably glitched their way there.

[clever blade]

We are literally talking about matchmaking, not pre-made teams. Maybe it's you who doesn't understand it?

[undone timber]

A lot of them are get x special kills

But a good few are general gameplay

[plain trail]

yes... and when matchmaking, if i am a leader i will kick anybody under 200

they might be good, i just dont care

[azure lintel]

I never kick or leave parties based on levels, but I Know it's gonna be a rough ride when I do my weekly legendaries with SHD level 50s

[vague pecan]

what is your SHD and what difficulty are you being kicked from?

[plain trail]

maybe they're a god gamer and they have the best build ever

i just dont want to play with someone who is new lol

[clever blade]

I'm not the one on topic, Doom mentioned some elitist crap, so people started talking about it; a-

[undone timber]

Ok what the fuck

[clever blade]

....

[undone timber]

Please stop

[azure lintel]

RIP @azure lintel

[vague pecan]

@elfin hazel

[clever blade]

@dry trellis @elfin hazel

[frozen meadow]

this is fucked up

[rain hedge]

what the fuck

[undone timber]

So he is a troll

[rain hedge]

how do we go from shd level talks to thus

[undone timber]

Fuck knows

[clever blade]

@eternal relic @elfin hazel @dry trellis can someone please intervene

[soft knoll]

@reef reef Oi

[azure lintel]

I'm not even understanding why someone would keep these images on their PC ready to post...

[undone timber]

Get this fuckwad out man I beg

[bitter wraith]

Er what the

[rain hedge]

it’s stickers

[clever blade]

@eternal relic @elfin hazel [she/they] @dry trellis oi we have a literal issue in here

[dry trellis]

done

[frozen meadow]

thank fucking god

[fathom lynx]

W

[clever blade]

Thank you Danii

[undone timber]

Sincerest thanks

[elfin hazel]

ty mod bot for not working

[rain hedge]

the great nsfw stickers of the division server

[frozen meadow]

please remove sticker access in this channel

[dry trellis]

i hope i dont get penalized in my valo match for being AFK now

[bitter wraith]

If you want sus gifs go make a server lmao

[dry trellis]

ty for reporting!

[rain hedge]

this attack on the server is lore important

[bitter wraith]

I wonder what descender will be

[agile cloud]

Anyone been getting big lag spikes since today? Yesterday everything was fine ..

[plain trail]

anyways. you're mad for the wrong reasons and as long as the game devs keep incentivizing it, i don't think there's anything wrong with people kicking people they dont want to play with.

[elfin hazel]

it was on me 😭 I fail as moderator my life is over

[clever blade]

If you don't want to play with people, maybe have a pre-made team, but acting elitist over SHD makes you an absolute weirdo

Simple really

[plain trail]

nobody is acting elitist over shd lol

i dont think someone who is higher level is better than someone who is lower

[clever blade]

Have you not read any of this chat?

[plain trail]

i just don't want to play with ppl who dont know what they're doing.

[soft knoll]

We forgive you... maybe....

[clever blade]

Or did you hop in the convo near the end?

[plain trail]

idk you're the one who is attacking a straw man that doesnt exist lol

[rain hedge]

it is okay, we forgive you

[frozen meadow]

SHOUTOUT TO CLAN VENDOR MAN

FOR SAVING THE CLAN QUARTERS FROM DESTRUCTION

[bitter wraith]

Ironically I feel the same depending on builds as mentioned but if it's a raid I'm somehow fine with most of the group being clueless

[plain trail]

you seem to think people are fundamentally bad people for kicking ppl who are lower level.

[elfin hazel]

I mean tbf kicking low shd convos typically comes off as elitest everytime it comes up

[karmic meadow]

😂

[clever blade]

Got it, you haven't read the conversation and only hopped in here at the end.
I'll just leave it here then.

[elfin hazel]

it always goes down this path

[rain hedge]

shoutout to odessa for doing not anything

[plain trail]

i think people should play with whatever people they want to play with

and if they want to kick based on builds, based on level, based on their username, whatever

[frozen meadow]

i think the mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell

[plain trail]

there's nothing wrong with that

[rain hedge]

wrong

[frozen meadow]

D:

[bitter wraith]

The teacher when I don't know anything other than 1 + 1

[rain hedge]

i will now type a 4 paragraph text on why that is

and the post you a soyjack

[frozen meadow]

i will say ratio and block you without reading the text

[soft knoll]

Invisioned that in Ace Attorney "Objection!"

[frozen meadow]

yoooooooo shd 101 on hardcore les go

[rain hedge]

shoutout to campus and theatre settlement on doing nothing at all while the white house is under attack

[frozen meadow]

thats like saying "shoutout to that deer in the bushes for not pulling out an ak and fighting in the vietnam war"

[rain hedge]

the deer should’ve fought

[warm jasper]

Whoever is responsible for "Objective Failed" endless loop should be fired.

[rain hedge]

my theatre settlement has just been bugged, i did every mission and upgrade but the bar only shows 3 upgrades

for the entire time i’ve been playing

[frozen meadow]

okay this is just the biggest "wtf" ive seen so far

[warm jasper]

IKR, like WTF how is this even a thing.

[frozen meadow]

no i mean, your comment

thats the worst take on the situation ive seen yet

[warm jasper]

Severe incompentence

[frozen meadow]

lol

[elfin hazel]

it didnt come up in their testing simple as ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[warm jasper]

Like dev 101

[rain hedge]

it makes sense

big server and all that

[frozen meadow]

believe it or not, large games have large problems

[plain trail]

div2 is honestly the longest running game i've played with so many bugs

usually games get less bugs over time

[warm jasper]

Horrible mission design, not their first rodeo, and a lock out on Washington if you fail?!?!!?

[neat sedge]

after the last Comms we got, Someone needs to ||kill Manny||

[plain trail]

but div is like the opposite

every patch fixes 2 bugs and introduces like 5

[rain hedge]

ubi funding

[elfin hazel]

I don't think its that bad

[rain hedge]

most of it is going to r6

[plain trail]

idk

didnt they break regulus crafting

and then they broke convoys

[elfin hazel]

I think people can live without a regulus for a bit

[plain trail]

and now stovepipe is broken

[elfin hazel]

fixed convoys just prematurely

[rain hedge]

the game is like pokemon red and blue, held up with tape and hopes because ubi sorta just “good luck lol”

[plain trail]

sure but my point is just that there's a lot of bugs being introduced compared to many other games

[rain hedge]

conflict players will disagree

[plain trail]

whether the bugs are gamebreaking or not is besides the point

[elfin hazel]

if they're gamebreaking I think they matter more

if its something like a convoy giving the advertised xp as it should or even a magazine floating ever so slightly outside the magwell I'm not gonna care as much as like a softlock or just hard crashing nonstop like the start of S9

like yeah it sucks & it'd be nice if they werent a thing but I can keep playing without my game being ruined

[frozen meadow]

shucks ive explodered

[slow hemlock]

r the servers down?

[plain trail]

yeah i agree that gamebreaking matters more

i'm just saying that for a AAA game, div2 has significantly more bugs than any other game i've played lately

for where it is in its lifecycle

[broken plume]

I am really not liking this boss for the Stovepipe mission

[tawny garden]

Btw what is the new doggos weakspot?
I found a gastank besides its turret flamethrower but i could hardly ever shoot it from the front and even tho i sometimes got him stunned it hitbox was weird to hit

[foggy cape]

there is no weakspot for it, the most you can do is temporarily stun its weapons with EMP sticky bomb or technician grenades

other than that its a slog fest

[tawny garden]

There is tho i got those yellow weakspot markers hitting the tank

[cloud agate]

Damn after the update it start crashing again

[lime grove]

awh man

[tawny garden]

But i couldnt break the tank in the heat of the fight

[foggy cape]

I never got a yellow marker during my fight with it so eh

[lime grove]

i managed to TP to the pilot and thought i was free from the mission

it just sent me back when i TPed to Castle 💀

[tawny garden]

Well if you ever encounter a flamyboy again try to look for a little red gastank left of the turret (from your pov)

[tawny garden]

Before the last video starts do a dodgeroll backwards to where you came from + skip the video asap you get the chance

[lime grove]

ty i'll try

[rare kelp]

I installed the game (trial version) earlier and played it for an hour or two without any issue, now when I relaunched the game few hours later I keep getting "DELTA-04" error. I should have the trial version for 5 more hours.

[late finch]

Has anybody received the message "Mission Failed" at the end of the manhunt?

[lime grove]

everyone

[tawny garden]

#ask-td2-community message
Lol? The "weakspot" is actually an enrage spot wtf?

[lime grove]

the final manhunt seems to be borked

[shadow saffron]

YES OMFG

[lime grove]

i'm trying what Rakki recommended

this is the 7th time i'm running the razorback mission

[late finch]

Thanks, I thought it was just me.

[tawny garden]

Do this to fix last Stovepipe mission. Helps 99% of time

[shadow saffron]

It makes me restart EVERYTIME and it’s making me angry loo

[lime grove]

i already swapped to the loadout i run for speedrunning the league missions

[lime grove]

THANK YOU

I'M FREE

FINALLY 7TH TIME's THE CHARM

[tawny garden]

Yea well you can tell the next one than 😄

Some kind soul told me aswell here

[smoky kelp]

i can't even progress because nobody is lfging 😭

[lime grove]

would offer to help but PC :/

[astral jacinth]

What’s wrong with the manhunt

[smoky kelp]

i did a call for help for like an hour for mort's tidal basin, he was watch level 16 and we got to the boss fight and he decided to rush mort and died

[astral jacinth]

Rip

[smoky kelp]

this game really needs to become crossplay, xbox servers seem to be dead

[astral jacinth]

Great drop in drop out system, but no cross play yeah

Diablo 4 has cross play thankfully

[smoky kelp]

personally i think crossplay/cross-save should have been available from launch, if they decide to add it in now it would pretty much be pointless considering heartland is due

[frozen meadow]

doesnt the double xp have a level cap?
because ive gotten like 30 levels

[tawny garden]

Wheres the problem? It doable solo

[smoky kelp]

my builds are kinda trash, and i'm used to playing with other people since all i do is countdown, summit and raids so going down wasn't an issue until now

because there's no checkpoints

[tawny garden]

Hm if you have the parts do Heartbreaker + Memento + AR + Scorpio + Shield

Thats safed my day

[smoky kelp]

i use tactical vector sbr 9mm, scorpio and shield

[tawny garden]

The mission is brutal for pure reds or skillbuilds

[tawny garden]

Switch to AR +21% on health is good against Robots they have bo armor

[lime grove]

I ran 4PC HF, memento with Zero Fs, Preservation famas and Scorpio with the KARD

[tawny garden]

Yea HF good aswell

[lime grove]

Scorpio did the job as per usual against the final boss

quite a tanky chap i would say but nothing a bit of smacking can't fix

[tawny garden]

The scorpions shock was very welcomed

[smoky kelp]

could you guys send me a picture of the builds you're referring to in dms? i tried making a build someone told me to use and i got lost on some parts so i made some of it up

[vernal berry]

not really. It is just lengthy as hell, but its doable with an all red

[tawny garden]

Yea sure doable but it rather risky or you just wait and wait for the drone spam to dry out

Not fun atleast

[vernal berry]

Not quite. Like, you know that one shack that's next to the fence, left of where you enter the sparkle fight from?

[sick estuary]

is anyone else gettin an objective fail when doing take back the whitehouse?

[vernal berry]

You stick to that shack and avoid LoS while using any gun with the preservation talent, guaranteed win

[tawny garden]

Oh yea saw that could you sit there safely? I kited him around the big tire 😄

[vernal berry]

i kited sparkle around that shack. The thing is tall enough to block the fire grenades

and you can even get it stuck for a couple seconds

[azure lintel]

@sick estuary everyone is. Free F to skip the second cutscene (happens after you see the echo in the first one) DONT TOUCH ANY KEYS TO MOVE then immediately press M for map

[sick estuary]

ight ill try that

[timber hatch]

There's a glitch where whatever shd is lower on your account, normal or HC, will always get double exp with no limit

[azure lintel]

basically hit M as soon as the little hourglass thingy for holding F to skip cutscene is over

[frozen meadow]

Can I get banned for that

[tawny garden]

Yea but in general this mission needs a bit more survivavility than people expect and have their builds laid out for it seems

[timber hatch]

No, the only way to even avoid it is to not play. Plus they give zero shots about HC

[frozen meadow]

Okay

[vernal berry]

Yeah but....preservation fills that up in no time, since the preservation regen works on drone and robot kills too

[frozen meadow]

Hardcore moment

[azure lintel]

@timber hatch If they gave me a 5th character slot when they introduced hardcore mode i might've tried it 😛

[frozen meadow]

Why do you need that many characters

Are you just using them for bulk storage

If so you have a hoarding problem

[azure lintel]

I've literally never once heard of a game introducing a hardcore mode and not giving another character slot for it (if the game has slots that is)

[frozen meadow]

Nah hold on

Why do you need 5 character slots

You good?

[azure lintel]

"Why do I need to delete an existing character to play a new game mode" is the actual question that matters

[frozen meadow]

Why do you have four to begin with wtf

[azure lintel]

not how many characters i have or what i use them for

[vernal berry]

Like, If you have Emeline's Guard, P320 Compact and Umbra Init, you can simply just get through the mission with almost no trouble using all reds and 5 directives

[broken plume]

anyone know where the last comm for the season is? I have a hunch it'll be like Faye's where you have to run the manhunt mission 1 more time to get it but I REEEEEEEALLY don't wanna fight that fricken warhound AGAIN

[frozen meadow]

You gotta

[azure lintel]

Any kind of regen is helpful on Firedog part, found it was easiest to just play ring around the rosey in the hotdog stand with it

[vernal berry]

re-run manhunt mission one, sorry lad

[frozen meadow]

It's been that way for every manhunt mission

[broken plume]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuu

[frozen meadow]

Also I had zero issues doing it my second go-through

[vernal berry]

this

[frozen meadow]

The mission is based primarily on element of surprise. If you've done it once, then the magic's gone

[tawny garden]

What i really wonder about is that i had some mission open to bring some stick of faye manhunt to the whitehouse underground. Never could finish that because i had no stick smh

Now the mission is gone because the whitehouse is "de"made of today 😄

I hope im not locked out of intel now 😦

Btw is that just how our whitehouse looks now for the next weeks?

[frozen meadow]

P much

[rough sleet]

wipehouse 😂

[frozen meadow]

Wait

It might be permanent

[tawny garden]

Good one

[frozen meadow]

Because they took the reactor

So they can't revert to what it was

So this could totally be the new WH

[potent condor]

EEVEE

[tawny garden]

Mang. If my theory is right about next dlc is south washington than making maybe the Castle our new Base would tie in perfectly 👀

[potent condor]

sera alive

[frozen meadow]

WHAT

Dang and I was just celebrating

[frozen meadow]

Probably Saint Louis

[vivid coyote]

is the resident evil appearel event over?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[vivid coyote]

thx!

[smoky kelp]

they're adding a new dlc?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[smoky kelp]

oh nice

will level cap be 50 then or?

[frozen meadow]

🤷‍♀️

[marble fulcrum]

sooo

this sparkle has to be impossible solo right?

[broken plume]

It's okay guys. It's okay! The Black Tusk didn't touch the shooting range.

[marble fulcrum]

like theres legit no way u can do this solo lol

[broken plume]

Not impossible, just.... not fun. Don't shoot it's fuel tank, it enrages it

[smoky kelp]

did they touch my hunters masks

[marble fulcrum]

im not shooting it

im 6 blue

[tawny garden]

Ugh..imagine. All the gear we farmed over the years obsolete

[marble fulcrum]

and i lose full armour in 2 seconds

[broken plume]

I ran full red cores and just ran circles around the entire arena

Keep at range and just keep shooting, that's all you can do

[marble fulcrum]

u got proof u actually completed it on heroic solo?

[broken plume]

Does anyone?

[marble fulcrum]

ive seen zero completions, not even in speedrun discords

[broken plume]

I don't screencap my mission completions... sorry

[smoky kelp]

i can't even beat it on normal difficulty let alone heroic 💀

[marble fulcrum]

then i dont believe you completed it on heroic solo

[tawny garden]

I did. Just kite it around something. I used the big tire. Some other people used some shack.
Just dont headtank it.

[marble fulcrum]

especially with 6 red

the grenade would insta kill you

[broken plume]

ok. Just offering friendly tips

[mystic zealot]

i mean...for the Sparklie..... i got my arse handed to me on heroic during the EMP spam part where 3 explody drone spawned behind me and just blown me up, then i set the difficulty to challenging, all's well until the flamming dog, seriously, one does not simply just melt through my entire stack of heart breaker armor in 2 seconds but here it is....

[marble fulcrum]

yeah nothing you're saying adds up to you doing it solo

[frigid niche]

Has the random crashing still not beeen fixed yet? jeezus

[marble fulcrum]

theres legit no chance.

[mystic zealot]

respawned, and think "hey, maybe he can't point the flame hose up?" so i climbed on a box and lo and behold, he first yeeted a naplam nade at me , and then just pointed his flame thrower up and melted me

[tawny garden]

Dude. Copium.
Its doable.
I did it with 4r/2b/2y using HB + Memento + Technician spec // Policem4 + Scorpio

[mystic zealot]

ended up killing him by literally walking around him in circles around that one blue container with 2 exposed ends

[broken plume]

I'm not saying it's easy. Or fast

[marble fulcrum]

haha yeah right bud

[frozen meadow]

I like cookies

[tawny garden]

You gotta be trolling? Why should i lie?

[mystic zealot]

but seriously though, you do not get me ready for a boss fight when said boss is armed with a flame thrower and literally spawn right in the toasty range at start...

[frozen meadow]

This is like the 5th time today Rakki called someone a troll

[broken plume]

I just ran around in circles, zig zagging to avoid the grenade cutting me off, and poking at him

[marble fulcrum]

because everything thats a part of this boss fight points to it being impossible

[frozen meadow]

I just face blasted with 4r/2b striker

[marble fulcrum]

cant kite

it just launches shit at you that 1 hits ur armour

[azure lintel]

@marble fulcrum it's not fun the first time, but nobody here is lying to you

[mystic zealot]

that, that statement right there!

[marble fulcrum]

cant fight it close because shield doesnt work and that flamethrower kills u almost instantly

[mystic zealot]

YES

[tawny garden]

Than you maybe didnt kite him around something. That works great. Keep firing at his gun. Makes him aggro chasing you instead of nadespam.

[marble fulcrum]

it spawns more bullshit like drones

and EMP

[frozen meadow]

This chat is a shit show

[tawny garden]

Drones are 3 hits comon

[marble fulcrum]

and it has an HP bar the size of fucking morozova

[mystic zealot]

don't forget his little 2 buddies, the grenade dog and minigun dog that spawned with him

[azure lintel]

it only spawns the drones 1 time, the emp is behind the chain link fence to the far right corner as you enter the area

[heavy prism]

Skill issues

[broken plume]

So drop the difficulty if you can't do it

[marble fulcrum]

post a video with a run

[frozen meadow]

This is the one time I'm agreeing with you

[oak prawn]

Am I missing the fun

[small spear]

just use chameleon

[mystic zealot]

but damn, i want that flamethrower

[frozen meadow]

It's not fun unfortunately just chaotic

[tawny garden]

Yea legit hardest part were the first 1 min to get the other dogs down first

[broken plume]

That would require me running the mission a third time...

I'm not doing that. The boss isn't fun.

[heavy prism]

Cheating not fun

[frozen meadow]

Wait so we have grenade dogs minigum dogs sniper dogs and now flamethrower dogs

[small spear]

if the game cheeses you you cheese it back, with chameleon

[frozen meadow]

Does this present the existence of explosive crossbow dogs and rocket launcher dogs

[marble fulcrum]

im doing the math of what you're saying you did and it just doesnt add up at all

[oak prawn]

Well it took 5 hours if trying but after re doing all 4 targets I did coney on heroic with 3 other people tha Damm Flamethrower dog id annoying and tanky not to mention the 5 other warehounds

[marble fulcrum]

answer not found

[tawny garden]

We will soon have dogs throwing dogs

[mystic zealot]

oh hell, don't give them ideas

[broken plume]

I didn't... post any numbers to do math?

[frozen meadow]

Razorback v2

[heavy prism]

Marauder tank vs flamethrower dog

[oak prawn]

Razorback was tricky I didn't have a jammer build annoying drones at the Whitehouse

[mystic zealot]

we already have actual vehicles at least in the chinese PLA side, that is a mobile razerback that yeets out 32 suicide ramming drones like a katyusha....having an armored dog in game doing that is a big no no

[frozen meadow]

i did it with striker wdym

[broken plume]

Razorback that releases landing crafts

[oak prawn]

Yes well I am all red so I'm squishy

[frozen meadow]

what made you think all red was a good idea solo

[mystic zealot]

though....won't be out of place for BT to have....

[oak prawn]

Challenge

[frozen meadow]

thats not an excuse .-.

[broken plume]

I don't appreciate you attacking me like this

[frozen meadow]

ratio

[oak prawn]

I managed to do stovepipe and the Whitehouse on heroic so I'm proud of myself

[broken plume]

REEEEEEEE

[frozen meadow]

I have a hard time understanding how you did heroic in all reds

[broken plume]

Very very carefully

[oak prawn]

With stovepipe I had 3 other people helping me

[heavy prism]

Just chameleon

[mystic zealot]

hey, who knows, maybe in the next version instead of air dropping doggos they just mortar the dog in like half life's head crab shells or something

[broken plume]

And with much aggrevation

[frozen meadow]

Oh so it wasn't somo

[broken plume]

and almost a broken keyboard

[frozen meadow]

Solo

[tawny garden]

The razorback always seemed a bit comical to me.
Such a big "thing"
Dont even know what it is
Abd than it just spawns some handfull drones
Any hobby drone flier can spawn more out of his car

[frozen meadow]

don't know what it is

Yes we do?

[oak prawn]

You would have to be crazy to solo stovepipe on Heroic

[mystic zealot]

well, i tried

[frozen meadow]

How do we not know what razorback is

We know almost exactly what it is lol

[mystic zealot]

all's well till the 3rd EMP area

the one with the emp pulser on the roller coaster

[oak prawn]

The mechanized units were really easy it was that Damm dog that git me

[polar meadow]

6 blue core heartbreaker do the trick

[frozen meadow]

What damage lmao

[mystic zealot]

surprise totally silent suicide drone, spawned right behind me, on a run with fragile armor and fog of war

[broken plume]

Althought I am surprised (Spoilers for the end audio log) ||That we don't have a quick side mission to go to the aquarium... maybe they're saving that for Y5S1 trailer||

[green brook]

how do I get my agent out of the manhunt glitch????

[oak prawn]

Shame you couldn't recruit stovepipe

[polar meadow]

600k crit with kingbreaker

[mystic zealot]

man just sat there, dead with blood outta mouth, sad

[tawny garden]

Before the last video dodgeroll back + skip the video asap

[frozen meadow]

The question is what killed him

Probably old age

[oak prawn]

Probably a blaxktusk

[mystic zealot]

hunters perhaps?

[broken plume]

I was ready for hunters the whole mission

[mystic zealot]

could have yeeted an axe on his back or something like Fred

[frozen meadow]

Same

The first few rooms were fucking terrifying

[oak prawn]

I'd rather face a pack of hunters then dogs drones turrets and more dogs

[cloud agate]

Was doing my 2nd run auntie manhunt on my 2nd toon. The crash had started very 5-6mins the game will crash!.

[tawny garden]

Well natalya said "Agent" so.
Dont think its a hunter.

[broken plume]

Every corner I was like "There's gonna be a hunter that poofs up there... no? Okay... here's Stovepipe, hunter time right? No again?"

"Boss room, what's the hunter gonna look like..... what the hell is that?"

[tawny garden]

Kelso went rogue. You heard it here first.

[frozen meadow]

I was prepped to randomly dive out of the way

[mystic zealot]

SURPRISE ! no hunters, big drones instead !

[oak prawn]

I was tempted to go rogue

[mystic zealot]

be like the Fred's manhunt all over again

[frozen meadow]

You haven't collected all the comms I presume

[oak prawn]

UK if you could go rogue and could join nat I would in a heartbeat

[frozen meadow]

Why

[mystic zealot]

BT be like
guy wish to join with hunters,
need to pass test with a hunter watching to see if he fits
instead of being sneaky, send in loud AF quadcopter drone
dead and failed the recruitment test

[tawny garden]

Why everyone here wanna go to BT wtf 😒

[oak prawn]

Cause being a ShD agent is boring

[frozen meadow]

Bruh

Hyena mentality

Dead ass

[mystic zealot]

well, at least from what we can see in the whitehouse, they be having a lotta fun during the raid

[rain hedge]

hyena on top

[oak prawn]

That hunters description is a reference you do know that

[rain hedge]

or cleaners

[mystic zealot]

like, hell, why is there tire tracks, all the way into the bio reactor......was there a BT drifting shit in the white house or wut

[broken plume]

Naw naw naw, Hyenas mid. Sewer people base

[tawny garden]

Mang. I wish Keener wasnt dead tho...he was the only likeable person :/

[mystic zealot]

give riker some love

[frozen meadow]

Mini tank

[oak prawn]

Keener was a psychopath

[mystic zealot]

they give good iron supplement

[tawny garden]

Keener was also a good buddy. Never really did us harm.

[rain hedge]

cleaners are so based
heavy is just bigger flamethrower

[frozen meadow]

Keener has issues

[bleak mirage]

anyone got dc'ed?

[rain hedge]

but keener has rizz

[muted drum]

I got dc'd

[tawny garden]

Keener saved a family in NY. Goof guy all along.

[oak prawn]

Nah nah we all know the deers are the beat Faction even though they are animals

[bleak mirage]

bruh just completed the capitol on heroic

[frozen meadow]

never really did us harm
Tried to chemically bomb all of manhattan

[polar meadow]

feel really bad for fred

[oak prawn]

Hey Fred went out with honor

[rain hedge]

hunter was cheating, calling hacks

[frozen meadow]

Least' he pissed off sokolova

Only time sokolova was ever actually mad

[oak prawn]

A true sons vs a hunter undair

[frozen meadow]

Was when Fred took out that squad

[rain hedge]

i hope we get the option to melee sokolova

[broken plume]

So wait... ||the BT took the bioreactor, but did they get Trenenko?||

[polar meadow]

sokolova lost her cool is quite the scene

[mystic zealot]

join the cleaners, we got:
dude with ak and underbarrel flamethrower that burns
ladies that throw vapor bombs that burns
engineers that attach cluster incendiary nades to drones that burns
engineers that uses tar mortar that stick to you and burns
sniper with jumpy RC cars that explode
big boi with big flamethrower and molotovs that burns
axe boy

[frozen meadow]

They didn't get tcherneko afaik

[brittle copper]

Are there any benefits to doing Level 4 Control Points instead of Level 3? Aside from loot quality doesn't Level 3 drop the same blueprints as level 4?

[rain hedge]

based

[oak prawn]

Nah i wanna put a bullet in her head

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[polar meadow]

level 4 = heroic, better loot stats, and yes

[rain hedge]

i wanna disrespect her via melee’inh

[brittle copper]

But if I'm just blueprint farming would Level 3 be enough?

[broken plume]

level 4 also give Exotic components

And SHD calibration thingys

[frozen meadow]

They need to let us fucking revive hive Fred

[oak prawn]

Do you think we will evergo after mc manus?

[frozen meadow]

Yes

[rain hedge]

still don’t get what counts as rogue or not divuniverse wise

[frozen meadow]

Red watch

[rain hedge]

I know that but like the things you do

[frozen meadow]

As far as we know that's legit it

[oak prawn]

Red watch means rogue ether capture or kill on sight

[frozen meadow]

Y'know what would be fucked up

A manhunt mission in dz

[rain hedge]

ISAC: “rogue protocol enabled”

I was opening a door

[rain hedge]

servers explode

[mystic zealot]

seriously though, the melee system in game is kinda funny when you think about that, guy in next gen sci fi armor that can take 3 seconds of burst from a minigun, just have all said armor shattered with a shove

[tawny garden]

I think he maybe gonna be the end-endboss. Even after next dlc. Thats what my glasssphere says atleast 😛

[frozen meadow]

Imagine the number of griefers

[broken plume]

allow civilians to die either by your own hand or inaction would be a start

[oak prawn]

Not all rogues are bad though some just wanna survive

[rain hedge]

i mean i guess that’s obvious but eh

[mystic zealot]

wasn't there in lore where if you go off mission you are considered rogue, such as going back to families etc?

[polar meadow]

I kinda want melee weapons in Div2, would be hilarious

[rain hedge]

that’s lame

[polar meadow]

WW1 all over again

[oak prawn]

Let's be honest civies make good bullet sponges on heroic

[broken plume]

Kinda sorta, depends on the context but it's all up to ISAC so... most likely

[rain hedge]

“Hey lemme go say hi to my kids”
kill em

[oak prawn]

Pull an anakin

[mystic zealot]

saw the chainsaw guy fighting a White tusk big guy on summit, didn't stand a chance at all

[rain hedge]

kelso on her way to do nothing at all except be sarcastic

[polar meadow]

Kelso is sus

[rain hedge]

i’m surprised she HASN’T gotten a season yet

[oak prawn]

UK I'm tired of doing all the work while everyone else is relaxing I'm out here doing missions killing rogues bt huntingdon targets I need a raise 😂

[rain hedge]

kelso is so sarcastic in countdown

[tawny garden]

Tbh im just a bit sad that the division went down the "man is itd own worst enemy" path down so quickly. The whole theme of the virus, contamination zones and everything in div1 had such a creepy atmo.

And now were close to some call of duty plot

[oak prawn]

We need zombies

[naive thicket]

Final part of Stovepipe mission, finished the Razorback, and getting Objectve Failed twice now. Character stuck in that loop. Anyone else seeing this bug?

[tawny garden]

Well close..were in the middle of it tbh

[polar meadow]

skip the 2nd cutscene,

[oak prawn]

Do you think there will be a Y6 or is Y5 the end of TD2?

[mystic zealot]

try resetting world difficulty, and skip cutscene at the end

[rain hedge]

idk

[naive thicket]

okay

[rain hedge]

i hope it isn’t the end

[tawny garden]

Another dlc is on its way. So were good

[oak prawn]

Yea but its gonna cost real money sadly

[rain hedge]

the division battle royale

[mystic zealot]

i was hoping to actually see some friendly True Sons or even BT in Y5 or something ngl

[naive thicket]

I did skip the cutscene second time, still failed, but I'll try and change the difficulty.

[oak prawn]

I mean BT are not really thr bad guys I said it I'm not explaining

[tawny garden]

Sure but its new map certainly more new equip and ofc story missions and all the good stuff

[rain hedge]

i was hoping to see true sons being allies with you or the BT but eh

[bleak mirage]

Ye but I think we should support them since they didn't abandoned the game

[mystic zealot]

imaging that, you shot the flare for CP, and instead of "farmers" with axes and pistols, you got some Fred's Sons coming instead

[rain hedge]

i hope it’s brooklyn

[rain hedge]

it would be cool if they had some new outfits for em too

[tawny garden]

You need to roll backwards befor start of video

[oak prawn]

Well in Y5 S3 we are going back to NY so they may open more of tje map

[rain hedge]

from the picture it might be brooklyn bc of the brooklyn bridge

i miss brooklyn :(

[naive thicket]

Now you're just making shit up

[tawny garden]

I could see how they even maybe reuse old div1 map to keep cost low and reuse assets xD

[oak prawn]

But Y5 S3 probably won't be here till next year

[rain hedge]

no he’s being truthful

[mystic zealot]

tbh i do miss the old TD1 DZ, especially DZ north with that literal mountain of bodies

[rain hedge]

the game spawns you in a no go area

[tawny garden]

Its true. Its a "out og level" bug

[oak prawn]

It's true look at the Y5 roadmap

[rain hedge]

that’s why you fail the mission

[rain hedge]

survival DZ with hunters

the hands of agents and all that

[tawny garden]

PvE only? Oooh that would be a treat

[rain hedge]

they need more fun gamemodes

i mean like party games or smthn

[mystic zealot]

TD1 hunters have that creep factor to them, and as stated, the chopped hands, distorted UI and all that, TD2 especially in countdown has turned them into armed and angry loot now...

[rain hedge]

the executions

i’m sad they don’t have executions, i would’ve love to see different executions that don’t just involve axe

[mystic zealot]

Hunk style that just step on you and empty a sidearm into the face?

[oak prawn]

They need to add executions we can do so if we hurt a hyena we can can up to them and do an execution

[rain hedge]

or spec ops the line

[mystic zealot]

early game, or late game

[rain hedge]

late game fits the hunters more

since they’re quiet and more violent

[mystic zealot]

i don't suppose it is executions then

it is butchering

[oak prawn]

Well hunters are trained to hunt both SHD and rogue agents

[rain hedge]

i mean i guess it’s a replacement for the creepiness factor since we sorta know what they are

[naive thicket]

Changing map difficulty worked, thanks

[rain hedge]

so it shows their more aggressive and violent side rather than creepy unknown

[tawny garden]

I dont know. Im glad Div is no "social hub" like game.

[frozen meadow]

Meow

[mystic zealot]

ngl if we got one where he just beat us to death, would work

[rain hedge]

eh it’s more because there’s just not much fun things to do once you get super deep into the game

[mystic zealot]

good times from TD1 - standing in line and queue (at least on the asia side)

[rain hedge]

idk like a gamemode where one or a group of players are hunters located in the DZ and the agents have to scavenge and eventually kill the hunters, something silly i guess

because conflict is just misery, DZ can be fun until you get wiped by the same group for the 20th time

[rain hedge]

i’d just take any finisher

they could literally kick me in the face while i’m down and i would be happy with it

[tawny garden]

Sure but at that point its okay to just play something else i guess. Wait for the next piece of div. Another season or dlc.
Im glad for div to keep a serious tone and have a coherent frame instead of 2323 modes

I think many modes makes the game rather shit than better. Countdown and Summit already are repetetive and feel more like a timesink/work

Grab your friends and just play actual other party games 😄

[fossil sleet]

If I'm a higher lv or past a friend in the story. When we play together can I kinda speed them through to where I am or how does that work?

[plain trail]

if you want your friend to actually enjoy the game, i'd recommend making new char and playing that with them

otherwise it'll just be like 10 hours of you oneshotting everything yeah

[rain hedge]

eh true, idk i just want to go over to something that will ease the stress of constantly grinding, that’s why survival was fun to me because it was something that i could switch over and just do stuff

eh guessing just give something to help break the constant misery of grinding

[tawny garden]

Dont. Speedrun. Him.
Thats the best way to have no fun for him.
Like isnt the best part about division experiencing the city and missions?

[fossil sleet]

I won't that's why I'm asking lol

[rain hedge]

welp i guess just do most of the killing for em

or just do what dis said and make a new character

[azure lintel]

Division 2 has the best open world cities real or not of any game ever made IMO. Those folks who are responsible for that at Massive should really be proud.

[tawny garden]

If i join low level friends i tend to play something like pistol only (no dedicated pistol build ofc)

[rain hedge]

i do it and just mess around with guns and gears

[tawny garden]

Right!? Its always outstanding how it feels coming back to div after a break. The look, the traversal and the atmo of the city is really unmatched

[rain hedge]

important question!!: did manny ever get more toys from the toy shop?

[broken plume]

I wonder if the burster firefly would be good against Sparkle. I mean if you read the tactical data on it, it says if you destroy the fuel tank, the doggo explodes, and the burster firefly targets weak points. I highly doubt it'd work but I'd also laugh my butt off if it did

[azure lintel]

@rain hedge manny let Cindy McAlister get captured. He's dead to me.

Cindy NEVER would have let us walk into that Coney Island trap

[thorny talon]

Thats why it needs a pve installment, its too good for a pvp game 😕

[thorny talon]

It wont one shot weakpoint

[azure lintel]

Bro the season ending was amazing

[thorny talon]

Ok

[frosty wadi]

Its not a pvp game

[broken plume]

They did really well with the story telling this season, I'm excited for Y5S1 to drop... Or at least the trailer

[thorny talon]

Heartland is sweetie

[frosty wadi]

The conversation wasn’t about heartland.

Also heartland is pvpve

[thorny talon]

Ok but it was another topic not filler for your previous conversation

[azure lintel]

I'd eat catfood for a year for a real deep dive RPG in the division verse with a full scaled city map like the capitol or southern manhattan

thats like my dream game

[thorny talon]

Doesnt matter as long as pvp remains

[frosty wadi]

• changes topic randomly without informing anyone at all
  “It was another topic not filler”

[broken plume]

Also also Heartland is only PvP at night.

[thorny talon]

🤔

[polar meadow]

sound like DMZ

[marble fulcrum]

as for the what this just did for the story, the ending was amazing

[thorny talon]

Doubt they can give us full pledged campaign in Heartland for a free gaem 😕

[marble fulcrum]

i just realized BT stole our shd tech

[thorny talon]

Resurgence should been pc gaem and heartland mobile gaem 😔

[marble fulcrum]

and can probably use it for themselves now

oh boy

[broken plume]

They stole our tech ages ago

[thorny talon]

Sir this is main chat no spoiler

[smoky kelp]

why was sparkle easy to kill

[marble fulcrum]

he wasnt

[broken plume]

SHD tech isn't exactly the most secure thing in the world

[thorny talon]

Maybe u were playing in normal

[smoky kelp]

i killed him in like 5 minutes on challenging

[marble fulcrum]

challenging schmallenging

[thorny talon]

Challenging 😭

[marble fulcrum]

basically normal

[smoky kelp]

i have trash builds don't judge :(

[marble fulcrum]

yeah well theres agent shields with bt logos on them

hopefully we dont have to deal with that now.

[thorny talon]

You asked for it darlin. All the solo heroic players here are scared after the encounter

[broken plume]

I didnt see any BT shields... Then again I wasn't looking at all the details

[marble fulcrum]

look on the floor at white house

theres some in different areas

[smoky kelp]

i do heroic too, i was just using my armour build so

[thorny talon]

I think they only stole ||bio reactor|| which is required ||to produce antivirals||

[marble fulcrum]

nah

they had access to way more than that

[broken plume]

But also SHD tech is basically like candy. Hell, when I was doing Auntie stuff today, I ran into a named Hyena with an artillery turret and mendor seaker hive

[thorny talon]

||the heli was carrying bio reactor which we extracted from pentagon||

[marble fulcrum]

yeah but those arent canonical bosses

[brittle copper]

Sparkle was pretty hard, but I found decoy cheese being pretty reliable on Challenging

[marble fulcrum]

man wheres the heroic ppl

lol

[azure lintel]

<= heroic

[broken plume]

Heroic was not fun

[thorny talon]

🗿

[broken plume]

Don't make do it again daddy

[azure lintel]

to be fair nothing is really bad except Sparkle or w/e

[brittle copper]

I was so excited when I saw a yellow warhound, but then my excitement faded when I realized I can't cheese it the same way I do the regulars

[tawny garden]

Still here.

[thorny talon]

All the bounties which were stationed in a mission for the manhunts so far were all super hard on heroic i feel.

Like the same mission on heroic without bounty feels way easier

[broken plume]

I almost ran the mission with my sniper build

[thorny talon]

Oopsie

[broken plume]

I was like "oh this might be fun, headshotting everything... Nah, better play it safe first run"

[marble fulcrum]

wut

[broken plume]

Sniper vs 2 quadcopters would not have gone well

[marble fulcrum]

chunks was the only really hard one on heroic

[tawny garden]

I think past missions always feel easier over time because of the power creep

[broken plume]

Let alone Sparkle

[marble fulcrum]

because lincoln memorial is stupid

so chunks was hard af

the others were cake walks