#td2-general-chat
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not only do you get less loot but the rest of your part does, purely because you decide you're lone wolf
the 7 others could've followed him into the VIP and get their loot, why would it be his fault if he went to do it because the others don't want to?
its hella fun, and takes zero effort, also blocking reinforces with goyo fire shield, and walking into the fire when people destroy it, then they get banned
you're not playing in the team
Don't play anymore since game looks garbage. Ps3 graphics
I’m still a team player at the end of the day
yeah that's a no from me dawg, literally the opposite, "team tells me to go with the team so i go solo", self proclaimed
you said when the team says no you read it as a yes before
welp
the only teamplaying you doing is by draggin the team singlehandedly
homie in football running with the ball towards your own goal
Are you controlling me make me do whatever you want me to do. As In making me follow and shoot ai’s that 7 people is also shooting at?
for the global objective of the team
"i know you told me to go B-side, but i didnt want to"
that's what youre signing up for in group content
otherwise just replay bank if you wanna play vip solo lol
or just, don't complain about being kicked
It’s different when it comes into a actual raid then a simple mission or CD
you seem like the dude who does the same in raids
Idc about being kicked
I mean you're literally being difficult for the sake of being difficult
This is what 8 year olds do
I just find it funny that they said “no VIP”. I said “make me”. And before the ending with all the hunters, that they kicked me. Before extraction phase. All because I solo VIP in CD in challenging
You can be proud of being an 8 year old if you want lol
you're lucky they waited that long
Why you on here with 100s of 8yr olds then?
Just 1
homie really loading up a game thats intended for teamplay and goes solo lol ight
The best one
Everyone else seems pretty reasonable lol
Cause i like winning against them
i can fistfight any 8 year old
not that hard to requeue if you miss out on loot
Because I can do whatever I want to help out the team even by soloing it
Are you controlling my PC?
So play for me then
time for touching grass
Well the thing is youre not helping the team by soloing it lol
imagine still thinking you're helping the team.. or yourself for that matter
Nobody wants you to solo it because fheh get less loot
everyone only does CD for hunter loot anyway
Boost me Kane with your mystery powers of controlling my PC to teamplay in CD
im boosting you to go outside
Negative shipmate
i know, very scary
“Negative, ramos”
Sorry shipwreck
isnt the fix for missing out on loot just setting the target loot
if he can solo, hes got the stronger build then
Someone have to do VIP
so?
then go loot the room when hes finished
I volunteer myself to do VIP
loot doesn't spawn if they're not on the same objective
as a tribute?
then he misses out on the room everyone else is doing, fair trade
and everyone misses out on the room he's doing
I did teamwork on my end to do VIP I’m sorry no one came with me, it’s not my fault
everyone net loss
then requeue after you clear CD
then he requeues
at least he's not in your lobby
nah he'll time you guys. they didn't clear one room for a good while so i wait a few more minutes matchmake and get back in the same group
It’s not like you never gonna run VIP again on CD again in your life. VIP is not onetime only event on your account.
i havent even heard of this in the hundreds of CD runs ive done
everyone just keeps their heads down and plays, who nitpicks free loot lol
you seem to be fixated on vip
and you're not?
one true love
isnt CD made to split up anyway lol
VIP is the best, especially soloing because no one joined me as I did it
Yes in 2 teams of 4
sounds like 3 people went to the wrong room then
both of you must be getting kicked a lot
besides isnt all the loot everyone is after from the hunters at the end?
i only see afkers get kicked lol, game isnt that hard
They said don’t do VIP and ran a 7 man
materials and targeted loot drop all through CD
No lol
I’m sorry that I can do VIP solo because I just can
Maybe if you're trying to break a world record
But 99% of people are running or for loot
Only for myself
heres hoping they get loot then
In which case splitting up reduces loot
this is a fact that is apparently lost on him
Lost on me?
Well he doesnt carw about anybody else lol
truth
most countdowns i did run was usually the 2 then straight for hunters one objective is usally skipped
I ran across the map to get the loot for the area that they completed
Hes just tryna flex that he can solo the thing
Wait so if you’re in a group of 4 and the other 3 want to do a specific mission at some point and you go to an entirely different mission your solution is for them to say welp, 3 of us wanted this but that one guy is doing that other thing, so let’s give up on what we (including the leader) wanted and follow that one lone guy to get our loot?
And hes a badass because he can solo something
It’s not a flex, it’s just funny
there is no loot if you're not in the area they completed
so, wrong
i dont even know what loot could be missed anyway, any non god roll or missing stat is fixed with recalibration station
Lol, this guy only ran 8 man groups for one area at a time and took it slowly
Well loot doesnt drop period
well, mojoe is making it an issue "omg you got loot but everyone else doesn't!" so what stops people from following the lone guy doing something they said no to?
If you're not in the same area
Well because he specifically did it to spite the other 7 ppl
Apparently someone said "do this, not vip"
????
yall should never touch diablo 3, that game is meant to split up for bounties....
The area is CD, we are all in CD
So he decided to do vip xd
Yeah but this is a different game
I’m sorry I solo a obj that they said no to
Not true, I can confirm it myself
I’m sorry that i did it anyways
care enough to kick

I’m sorry that they were slow enough and need 7 guns in total to complete one room under 7 mins
It’s to farm
Ive literally failed extractions cuz i wanted more loot
Why you care and complain about me doing VIP solo
I dont care and I'm not complaining
because they're somebody?
I'm just telling you why you're delusional
Who asked
if the goal is to farm, then the top farm is hunters
Ong
right?!
which that loot is global regardless of where ur standing
I just do found this funny that I did it anyways after they said no. And kicked me before extraction
all loot is farming
Not comparable at all, as you all get the benefits from wherever you are from them just being completed
It’d be the same as if in CD you’d all get the same loot in your mailbox afterwards depending on total enemy kills by anyone, then you could split up to do it faster and everyone would get the rewards
loot is loot
Ong
there's a reason you select targeted loot, because it drops from everything
A simple words , don’t do vip. Is never gonna stop a person doing vip
Ong
hence i stick to summit or now anderson mission
Words is words
Hunters are like half the entire loot, that’s like saying here spend about the same time you have so far except you miss out on half your loot gl;hf, just requeue I guess
Ong
Facts
you literally just agreed to a point that's proving your methods aren't correct
Lmao
thats like saying you open every single one of those little non faction caches that have the worst loot....
yuck
were those 100 CDs you've done on normal difficulty?
And it’s not even about the quality of each loot, you’re very quickly maxed out in a build
More loot is also more materials from scrap, and it’s a good progress towards getting your expertise up
So getting less loot is also less expertise progress for essentially the same time spent
In short, you’re literally wasting people’s times by making their time spent less worth and less fun, and you’re doing that to the far majority
they could be normal, and i just fill in the god rolls at recalibration lol
to add to Appul, also wasting your own time, cos you also miss out on farm because of it
A good saying for this
I do actually open basically all of them that are in the way as they don’t slow you down and over time add up to be a huge amount of materials that contributes to many more items being maxed out in builds and progress towards expertise or saving time farming then later
"just because you can, doesnt mean you should"
Yeah i open those as well lmao
does that apply to making builds too?
wait wait people arent still hunting for god rolls to put on their gear right? we have optimization....
Optimization is expensive lol
Yeah of course that too, but you could argue they might not if they enjoy doing that so let’s say worst case they don’t waste their own time, but it’s still weird to think “hey I’ll do something that I personally benefit from or enjoy, while 87.5% of the group is suffering, yey!
god rolls isn't the same as the right rolls
for one
yeah and there's tons of various builds you can make, each with different versions too of many optimised pieces that take a lot of materials to optimise
All that takes away from time and (partially) materials you could've spent at making yet new builds and expertise
pff my expertise is still only at like, lvl 3
there's people playing very actively for thousands of hours who don't have certain builds maxed out with RNG too like the right golan pieces
i'm one of them but at this point i really don't care to anymore XD
yeah, and some people choose to never progress past doing higher than normal difficulty missions
but doesn't mean some/lot of people do want that and hindering their progress in a selfish way is a bit weird
yeah and try getting 4 pieces of FI to drop with max HSD so you can roll to red and not waste opti mats
or even with HSD at all
div 2 should be the last game to worry about missing loot anyway, never seen a game as generous as this one
its generous but the variables are huge
okay so if you already get a lot that means you can miss out on a ton more because well, you already got a lot?
Oh making my red FI actually took a while
if your missing something theres target loot... its not random drops
if you won the lottery and you were supposed to be given €400M and you receive €120M, would you think it's fair to say well, you already received a ton, why worry about more!
I actually disagreed with the one azurmen recommended
The build is fun tho
100
Not useless if you get caught out
target loot also has nothing to do with it as there's a lot of progress you can make from any loot regardless of what it is (like towards expertise and scrapping for materials, and also pieces you might not have thought you'd want but figure out wait a moment, this is a great rare piece actually)
I think it's a weird argument that you shouldn't be upset that you just spent around the same amount of time but received less loot, because overall you still get "good amounts"
Like if you do say 100 runs and you receive 50 instead of 70 items, that's 2000 pieces gone that could've greatly contributed towards many things or even could've had a unicorn rare piece in there
But I guess you can't be upset because you got the other 50 items every run?
Where do you draw the line, how much can one person decide to set 7 people behind and be selfish
Can I join random matchmaking groups and afk behind them so they're 3 man progressing something scaled up to 4 man? I mean they're still completing it quick, they only spent 15 minutes on the mission, that's like nothing! They could've spent 12 minutes if I wasn't there/afk, but still 15 minutes is good right!
afkers get kicked looong before splitters
you can pretend to afk really well without actually contributing anything and not get kicked, trust me
they'll know at end of the mission that you actually did like 0 damage but it looked like you were to most people who don't pay attention, by then it could be too late
well yea i wont kick someone whos still sitting at their computer
I think you're missing the point that we're all human beings and doing the thing that benefits others is a helpful thing, if we all only did what only benefitted ourselves we'd long be extinct, and that we all have a very finite time and losing out on even just minutes every run adds up and you'll never ever get that time back
And it's especially bad if someone say comes home from long day work and only has 2 hours of free time and now you're throwing away precious time from that because someone decided to not care about others
the amount of free time doesnt change how fast you can get loot lol
That's my final point about it and I don't know how we all got so bored to go through this for so long about a very basic principle in human society
i doubt theres a person in the world who fits your very specific description...
because you guys can't drop it?
division 2 prevented extinction or something
This is why i hate
Forced 8man
Despite there being exotics i cant access
I will just rather not have them
Than being forced to play with 7 randos on content you have to coordinate
yeah, because 3 raid exotics will be in DZ
Big horn?
The other is legendary exclusive, bighorn
oh wait, that's not raid XD lol
I mean it is bummer,but you have to look at casual side...some people never go into raids because they don't have community to go into raids with,just few friends having a good time playing game.
premade groups are the way to go, random matchmaking and how accessible it is and how much animosity it gives brings out the worst of many people
you can see it in practically every game when easy accessible matchmaking and LFG was added where with one button you're placed in a group with people you've never met, and will soon never see again, makes many people behave so much worse than a group you formed (even with a slight lead-up) and actually have stakes in as being an a hole leading to a kick is an actual major loss and you can't just get back to the same state in one button
It's practical and quick, but not useful for anything more meaningful or deep
ive yet to see a bad CD group i dont know where that comes from
Trust me I’ve seen many
no group where they get to extraction and call it in right way?
Id just rather them focus on making mkre content
For 1-4 man rather than only 8 man
yes more content you wont play
if people need to nitpick that loot at the end, id hope they know how to requeue
Also there is plenty of people who would help you with Raids anyway...I joined Iron Horse with 0 knowledge and guy spent 1 hour just explaining mechanics to me
just an hour?
So people care,maybe not everyone but there is some light at the end of darkness
Yeah hour or so
think 1 spot in DH takes serious coordination really
Which is why I'm fine with being locked out of the exclusive exotics
I mean you can play game casually and play raid with other people why not?
if it takes an hour to explainraid mechanics, eitherthe player explaining is incomptent or the player being explained to is an idiot
So I'll avoid the raids and dz
so why complain you can't get 3 exotics?
Where did i complain
nah i think he was talking about CD
Go pull it up
Unless you count this as complaining
I mean whatever its just 3 exotics
then below you're like fuck this fuck taht
then why play CD
Yeah exactly lol
well, the wording sounds like "i want those" but you're like "i'm not going to do this and that" shrugs
so why join a convo about something you don't care about?
Tbh Eagle Bearer might be meta dps thing but its nothing special,I would argue Ravenous and Regulus are more Unique.
i rarely use an exotic weapon anyway....
I can talk about whatever i want lmao
I dont give a fuck about diablo immortal but i love talking smack about it
uh good for you?
lol wut
all of division 2 moves at a casual speed anyway
which is why banning people for a minor exploit never made sense
but no other game will look as pretty as this one
It’d it breaks the game, it’s a ban incoming
If it’s doesn’t break the game, its a feature
XP farm, no bans
DMG glitch, bans
inside info on the world first raid race, no bans
That’s why you never saw Floor 10 XP farm players got a ban. It’s doesn’t break the game
It’s a just a feature as it last
i still like to stand in front of the plaque and be like, nah that wanst legit
How does that relate to Div2?
how do we report ppl again?
Pinned in #unofficial-troubleshooting
😂😂 WILD
but yeah dont bring that here go join a conspiracy server or something
ppfft. the link in #unofficial-troubleshooting is useless. the form doesn't allow you to submit. it's been broken for the past month.
wouldnt doubt the guy already left the server...
I ain’t wrong lol 😂
Any guess about the Ninja Bike drop? Pool? DZ? Specific Mission? Season 11 Reward? (btw that’s my guess)
I think it’ll be the manhunt
Agree
nods 3 months of waiting to get it
You’ll get it once you kill stovepipe if we even kill them this time considering our last two manhunts
Exactly the same time of the previous ones.
Delay is the new normal in the video game industry. Tell something new.
They’ll wreck their build system again and we’ll lose the entire game
That actually happened to another game
And devs never decided to build the game from the ground up for a second time
Lots of over reading bro. There is a huge difference between the build system and the core game. It is impossible to lose it. There are many layers of contingency to avoid it.
Well did you hear what happened a couple weeks ago?
That was a major issue for them
Everyone must’ve been on crunch time for multiple days
Do you really know what a build system really is and what does it do?
You only get gear no weapons from Anderson mission?
What a build system is doesn’t matter. What matters is that the devs needed to fix it or else things could’ve gone bad
Well, at least now I know that you don’t know what you are talking about. Specially about the risk of losing the entire game, but I agree about fixing what’s needed to be fixed.
Anyone know why General Anderson is still locked after completing the 4 manhunts?
Well yes the game that literally did have the devs lose all their work on it I only read about for a few seconds so I didn’t see exactly what failed
I was relating it to losing something crucial to the game is bad
“They’ll wreck their build system again and we’ll lose the entire game”. Exactly what you said.
I was exaggerating
are control points still the best way to farm blueprints?
Now we are settled. Everything will be ok bro.
Anyone know why General Anderson is still locked after completing the 4 manhunts?
Any predictions of who is gonna be manhunt of season 11?
You probably didn’t kill the targets
If there isn’t an X over their pictures in the manhunt tab then you need to do some more bounties
ah, ok ty
It needs to be manhunt specific ones, the ones located at mission sites
holy hell, how many levels would 361,510, 797 equal to?
That’s the bit integer limit
Anything steller dropping next week
hot shot if they didn't fix it
An entire new update
Game modes? New season? Or just the same old recycled trash
oh dam i didnt think about a tracker this whole time, i got top 2% on skill kills lets goooo
oh..... and that guy is top .1% skill kills....
table flip
2 billion experience would be quite the number though
You literally wouldn’t be able to go above that number
I have over 1k pistol kills according to that tracker thing
Sound right
Considering I used the deflector shield a lot back during 1-30 along with the talent that gives you special ammo for your pistol when you kill guys
Reassigned
i'm 1% for skill kills. sounds about right XD
not completely accurate though considering it doesn't show Firewall, Technician and Gunner in there
But yeah the data is skewed a bit
Like I have 0 kills on black tusk for the dark zone
Sure I don’t enter invaded dark zones much only regular ones but a few weeks back I found a good group to farm landmarks with in the invaded dz
The game just went absolute haywire o 😂
man i give up
100's doing anderson manhunt while they still can
Guys how long is Schaeffer in coma?
i tried to do union district on legendary can't find a team that can stay alive. every game i'm last man standing and i have to kill 3 fat boys by myself
those are the best teams though
There’s no established timeline but I’d take a gander that his manhunt was like weeks after Keener
So are they planning to wake him up miraculosly or he is just gonna be in bed for the rest of the game?
Probably one of the most interesting characters.
Well they have to talk to him to figure out what he and Faye were planning
Faye wasn’t supposed to end up dead I think but she did because she killed Ellis
Seeing as his manhunt comes first I’d throw in a bigger gander that Lau was only a few short weeks afterwards
What doesn’t make sense is the Rikers returning to Coney Island considering keener blew the place to hell
I mean they will probably write him to help Division after he wakes up
And yea Schaffer is by far the most likeable character on the other side of the Division
For me anyways
My guess next manhunt has to do with Anderson/Sokolova and then that will lead into McManus
It’s strange they describe keener to be your nemesis… that’s your div 1 characters nemesis lol
I could very well see that as Final one...Hunters are gonna be tough
Your div 2 nemesis is Schaffer
woa spoilers
We aren't engaged that much into spoilers I think lol
haha sike i know the whole bit
No worries
are they releasing Season 11 without anymore PTS?
prettymuch was teh plan at the start
they announced not phase 2 season 11 before they had their techinical mishap
PTSD inbound
did they remove the guarunteed exotic at end of anderson?
can you recalibrate and optimize both on any one stat?
you can recalibrate only 1, and think it is the same with optimizing but can be a different one than you calibrated
Then what the heck is this i see?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/456041973636136960/1077807073196257331/image.png?width=266&height=439
well when i optimized both stats, and want to recalibrate one of them, the option is grayed out.
dude i love crashing during countdown
some weird sh1t going on
if you recalibrated a stat already you wont be able to optimize it
then how the heck do you get both a recalibration and optimization on one stat, i never seen that in years
you shouldnt have to optimize a recalibrated stat. you just need max rolls in your recal library
very curious
Likeliness of PC crash fixes in the next update?
negative
i believe the cause and/or fix for the crashes is still a mystery to the devs
ngl i really think its related to the ubisoft launcher
You can optimize a recalibrated stat. You cannot recalibrate an optimized stat
once you start optimizing
the item is done.
so make sure the item is done before you start optimizing
yeah i had it backwards
How do I unlock Dark Zone West? It says the requirement is Dark Zone South Recon, but i've already done it i think
@potent condor@rare vapor good evening
I just run around with ridgeways and bleed all true sons
Or hyenas are easy cause it’s wide radius and the hyena rusher disorients
can you get the tdi kard in summit or only dz
Now start to build da sniper
yeah I have a mostly built skill build
I also got mantis but..I threw it into stash
time to look into a sniper build
GO FULL HEADSHOT DAMAGE, COMRADE
Screw da critical chance and hit
Headshot damage, right now right away
FOR MADER LAND!!!
Cuz my character cosplay S.t.a.l.k.e.r xD
Hey what are the chances of getting drop of exotic while playing summit boss rooms on legendary or heroic(except bighorn)
Now Ik one thing
BTSU gloves drop by named Black tusk
what build are you using?
Oh i am using skill build
I am not going in the room but my drone and turrents are
and I can't post images here to show you
0.024% and rising based on your floor level , and that's for heroic difficulty
they don't have a % for legendary it looks like
Or exotic caches.
Thats a faster way of getting stuff
The regular KARD can drop from anywhere
The KARD Custom that provides a skill tier only drops in the DZ or from named caches
Noice but this game gave me terrible item...
Kard buff 30% skill damage when headshot in 10s
Me: 😄
Spike is an awful talent even with the perfect version
It was better before In Sync made it obsolete, now it's just bad
I feel like in sync better
It is
Way better tbh
is general ridgeway a good proficiency farming method?
Does anyone have a oxidiser build for Anderson that I can join you in
i agree spike is awful, but not because in sync, also capacity and those changes of drone turret
you see those things are all encourage player shoot more even as skill build, but not just rely skill dealing damage then afk , let say rigger, 4 piece are allow you increase skill damage, when you changing target
spike is for player who cant always aim, or who don't want to aim, so once player meet the conditions, they get bonus
Not worth, the randos u get dont have enough firepower and is not that much extra loot, im farming the named items
anyone know how to fix the pentagon DARPA labs mission being locked but requirements having nothing listed?
make new agent
i have 2 characters and it doesnt work on either of them
though i really only care about my first main character
usually its that the breach side mission doesnt seem to count when done at lvl 40,
so you need to find someone that you can do it with at lvl30 wt5,
they can make a new char and dc start and then use the boost to be lvl 30 wt5, and the boost doesnt autocomplete that offsite missions, allowing you to tag allong to redo the breach at that lvl and usually that fixes things,
but also new season is planned for 28th, likely a fix for this issue and the dz entrance side missions that have the same issue will be in there, so maybe worth a wait for that
Hope they don’t get rid of how the npc’s spawn in gen Anderson
I’d be dumb if they do tbh imo
But finally some actual news ab season 11
Hope it actually doesn’t break the game update this time
it will. as usual. the game always broke after update. 😄
so , any ideas what may be with season 11 ? or it's just an announcement to actually say what would be in it in the stream ?
they're removing the anderson mission wdym
Anyone think that Season 11 will be more than just another "lame" manhunt? 🙂
the last manhunt was a lot of fun imo. difficulty was just right
but season 11 will most likely continue with a similar manhunt. im also looking forward to the season rewards track and the global events
I'm returning to the game after a long break. Didn't the weekly Summit project use to award some kind of cache, like an exotic or one with a named item?
it still does but it does not show up when you look at the project. just a visual bug
the requisition/donation project still gives you an exotic and named item too
Roger that, ty
Yeah exotic cache
ty
I'll only laugh if some of these account wide bans are for the anderson farm because whoever is running it over and over deserves to never come back to the game, you fucked up so many servers for so long its time to end.
i have to agree on it, everyone is spamming for abusing anderson farm bruh
non stop
i blame content creators..most of these players would have never known without those videos and have understandable fear of missing out..since there were no consequences to similar farms in the past
or even worse spread the issues to the entire player base in game
abusing shit of it
How are people running the Anderson exploit having an effect on the servers?
the raid and countdown servers are somehow connected to the ones that run the anderson mission hence why at least raids are unplayable
Interesting. Maybe I'll run Anderson later to see how bad the servers are for it
Welp how to deal with delta 3?
Servers constantly having to calculate thousands of spawns is really slowing them down in countdown and raid areas
Basically if example I doing something in game not related to Anderson farming it just dc?
Doing mission
That makes sense. I hate countdown and I haven't ran any of the raids in forever so I haven't had any server issues
Yeah I would guess that's an unrelated problem but don't have any solutions to offer, sorry.
I see it just getting worse for me just one day alone can get more than 10 delta 3
Correction a week
That sounds like it's an issue with your computer not the game
I see how to test if computer got issues?
Maybe this will work? I've never really had Delta 3 issues so I'm not sure
https://appuals.com/division-2-delta-3-error-code/
Will look into it
Is like can connect to the game normally just random dc by itself
Interesting discussion re effect on the game. Personally, I've never run any of those farms you see on YT etc. Though I will admit it's largely because a) I can't be bothered and b) I'm generally inexperienced at this type of game, but it hadn't occurred to me about the broader impact on the game experience for others. Useful to know.
What the fastest way to get xp
Anderson farm atm, hence why people are spamming it atm
For exp
Does cp3 just stop giving blueprints after a while?
So a cp3 always gives a blueprint?
Always until you have all blueprints unlocked
I COMPLETELY forgot that the fire starter specialization perk that puts people on fire when your armor breaks is disabled for PVP. What a time to be alive
Or more likely, a time to die
Im more hyped for div2 season 11 then destiny 2 big dlc call me crazy
The armor regen from armors packs from fire starter is unmatched tho
Then while using perfect efficiency you’re essentially immortal
Does the catharsis mask healing cloud work for yourself too or only your allies?
Only self-heal
Server start ddos again...
But it’s still 5%/sec for 10?
I only was JUST made aware of it’s existence
I’m probably reading the talent wrong
More higher shield = more better
Ok
Basically don't think of it as the primary benefit
It's a bonus that's useful to use if you need it.
I’m honestly more excited about the part where taking damage gives weapon damage stacks beforehand
Thats the part you wanna use yeah
It's why it's commonly used with a shield and Heartbreaker
talent description states "All allies in the cloud"
I’m currently wearing 2 different brands that both give 5% more armor and 10% armor on kill, momento, and one with extra crit stats. I’m a bit taken on what weapon to use though
I’m almost certain it’s off meta, but the purpose is to make it work off of kills and just solo whatever I want
The only weapon I can think of that might make it work is either EB or Chameleon
Yeah the general thing is to go 4-piece on a brand set with 2 High End stuff or 1 Exotic and a high end.
Memento-wise I've had great success using it with a Hunter's Fury build.
I’m wearing 5 high ends
I had a brain fart and mixed up brand sets and set equipment. D'oh
I do it all the time because I'm an idiot.
Then yeah that's not unusual
I was following what you were saying, don’t worry
People mix and match Grupo and the other ones all the time
I haven't touched D2 for 2 weeks since they delayed the season pass
Because the last thing I want is for a season to start and I'm already burnt out
So a lot of stuff has slipped out of recent memory lmao
Having to start over from console after switching to PC and taking a break is overwhelming with the seasons constantly moving and exotics coming out
I feel like I’ll never catch up before the next game comes out lol
im gonna be crushed if they say they doing away with expertise after all this grinding we been forced to do
Did they actually say that?!?!
Isn’t expertise the one that allows you to upgrade the core stat past it’s max?
And optimization is the one that lets you upgrade the current stats if it isn’t already god rolled?
Correct
anyone want to legendary weekly ?
its been rumored
yea if you hover over someone who slammed you in the dz on their weapom itl say like 21% weapon damage etc or watever expertise they are same for armor. its a huge advantage i actually dont like it but you have to if you want to have a chance of survival in dz unfortunately
I never expected people to walk into DZ without max optimized gear with perfect stats, unless they were grinding with friends or going solo
i mainly solo and farm landmarks. im expertise 10 with a decent build but not fully optimized. i can win 1v1s in the right situation
I want the build I described to work for PVP but I’m missing the proper stats
Kind of unfair to tell people they can't participate in pvp on an even slightly level playing field without spending a huge amount of time grinding in pve. This is why we get there stupid xp farms like Anderson.
EVERY FREAKING TIME
any reason meta is the pocario ( sorry idk the name ) holster is meta now for skill haste but its merely an added second if that. ?
BOSS ROUND AND DISCONNECTED
They only said they wanted to remove expertise and watch bonuses in the non-invaded DZs though
honestly wouldnt be against removing expertise but its kinda a slap in the face
I can see the reasoning behind removing expertise for PVP altogether, but watch upgrades? Hell no
Picaros is meta in pvp because of the free red core, not the skill haste
and im only shd 690 something 😭 i missed out on floor 10 farm so its no point for me to even make a new character for resources its ROUGH out here
you can add a mod? there is other holsters with reds im so confused
Meanwhile my sub-100shd main in PC exists. Only lvl 690 my ass
You had to suffer so everyone else should suffer? Is the world not a better place when there is less suffering overall?
No mod, picaros has 15% weapon damage as a secondary stat, no other item has that.
Ngl but...they need to remove exp farm anderson for real
ahh thanks
no not exactly im saying its a slap in the face to the ppl who already grinding to 21 and if it never mattered in the end
Theyre removing it from conflict and non invaded DZ
thanks buddy
nobody plays conflict in asia
and the dz is empty here maybe 1-2 ppl pervday
I’m not even sure what this is
youtube it
If they figure out a way to cure cancer, is that a 'slap in the face' to everyone who's already died from it?
Goofy aaah xp farm thats killing the CD and raid servers
Shoot doorway for 15 minutes straight
comparing a video game to human life
Yeah it's a harsh analogy, but the point is valid I think
Closer comparison would be if everyone who currently has personal belongings they worked for suddenly had them taken away
...but then no-one else has to work for personal belongings ever again, and everyone has an equal chance in life
Point is if someone has put in effort to acquire something, suddenly taking said thing away is unfair
My point is the effort is unpleasant and unwanted, if no-one has to do it that's a net gain
Sure, but it isnt fair to those that did do it
Cope seethe and mald
I’m ok either way
Personally I see it as another layer of gatekeeping for people with lives but also rewarding for people who put in the time
Not like expertise isn't still functioning in pve and invaded dz. You're just on a fairer footing with newer players. Isn't the true joy of pvp in outplaying your opponent, not outgrinding them?
Unfortunately not always
The numbers don’t lie
If you both have the same armor but the other guy has better damage stats, more often than not you’re gonna get rocked
That’s the optimal amount of armor to have as a tank DPS for PVP?
if somebody can check #ask-td2-community and help if you can
I mean, dz is never a place for "fair fight", everyone can having full expertise, if you actually care how good you can be in dz, you farm
From my experience expertise doesn’t matter too much in pvp but it does make a difference
if a good player killed by expertise 21, he will go farm because he want close the gap
instead bad player would complain and ask cancel expertise, it also close the gap, with 0 effort way ( then they still killed by good skill and say someone cheater)
Hello
sup
This is true
But to be fair expertise is kinda unfair sometimes
Impossible to play Countdown on EU right now... getting delta errors...crashes... annoying.
I'm getting Delta's, Oscars and Echo errors today. I very rarely get any at all
and I'm only running open world/missions
i got reseted back to spawn, when fighting the hunters at the end..and than delta
It's basically pay to win (all other aspects being equal), but you're paying in time spent grinding instead of time spent earning.
I was running my HC toon earlier, but I'm not risking it anymore today
that's why i say dz never is place of fair fight
PVP in general isn't
also, lets say a player spending 1k hours to farm expertise, and a player spending 1k hours pvp to training his skill
both of them are spending 1k, then cancel the expertise, it doesn't seem fair also
if you say cancel it in conflict, i won't disagree, but it also cancel in dz
why does everyone wanna do anderson? im noob
xp farm
or quaranteed exotic on normal when completing the mission.
Crash the game right at extraction...
hey guys does anyone know where the outcasts enemy 'the scar' spawns?
Is that for a field research challenge? Should tell you in the full task description at the spec table
he drops the 9 of clubs collectible which i need
also im not sure what this spec table is lol
Oh, the collectible cards are from open world bosses, they spawn randomly in certain set locations. Try the big roundabout near Federal Bunker
The spawns should prioritise bosses you haven't already 'collected'
ooohhhh that makes sense that i cant find a set location ok ill try that tysm!!
They do have set locations, they spawn in a preset location closest to you on a 30 minute timer
South of white house has a spawn location also for the roaming bosses
yeh ive farmed the south of white house for multiple cards i just didnt know it was all of them you see
the spawns reset every i think half an hour not sure
it rotates through them until you've killed them all. This is not explained because they wanted you to explore
apparently ive killed all the south of white house ones cause i just went there and the guy i killed didnt drop a card
Before killing them check the boss name from far away if isnt the right one then fast travel back to white house
does that reset the boss?
Yes if you didnt go into combat or kill them
oh wow thats actually so helpful ty
It changes the boss also so it might be a different one
thats what im thinking different boss spawns have different cards
I got my last true son with this method
oh nice
Its the named boss that drops the card
right right
If you already have the card for that boss it wont drop again
as someone else said earlier only bosses spawn that you havent gotten the card from and since that guy i killed didnt drop a card imm thinking bosses in different spawn points have different cards
I mean i did get a lot of different faction bosses before it spawned the one i was missing
Does anybody knows how many SHD points can we get per hour or per mission doing Anderson? I’ve never done it, just curious.
cringe
im gonna do your method of respawning bosses until one i need spawns
``What we are implementing/changing with this maintenance:
🔸 Fixed the Raid and Countdown server performance issues
🔸Removed the exploit that allowed to farm high amounts of XP by forcing all NPCs to spawn at a certain location in the Anderson Climax mission``
and like that anderson xp is soon to be gone
Div 2 gonna compete with Lightfall next week
and now we wait
NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT MY XP FARM
Good riddance honestly
I don't see the d2s as competitors ngl just due to the style/feel of it
Can Adrestia be farmed?
its a guaranteed reward from that Tidal basin box towards the end. @brave aspen (as long as you dont already have it)
Don't have it
👍
Asking due to Expertise for it
Then you must do invaded tidal basin
Tidal is ALWAYS invaded fyi
Oh well yea
And be sure not to have the Nemesis on your person or in your stash.
But putting the Nemesis in the stash allows you to farm it again through crafting
not stash, got to put it on an alts backpack
I’m pretty sure
No. Put it on another character or the game thinks you have one
Is it worth doing raids at this point? Never tried one but I'm already soloing challenging difficulty fairly easily. Any real reason to raid?
Yes. Raids are Awesome!!
The experience and the raid exclusives
@jolly temple I'd advise you put together a basic all red dps build to run it with
raids are always worth doing for fun at the very least.
@jolly temple also yes for the raid exclusive exotics
yes for dark hours espically as it is a big dps check
standard red will do
Finally fixing the anderson exploit
The two seem to be linked, so ending Anderson should fix it
Why? Does it effect you people are doing "exploit" XP farm? They patched Floor 10 and now this. No problem people will always find new way to do XP farm because game is so broken.
Its killing raid and CD servers and is incredibly stupid. Needed a fix
F10 didn't effect anyone else, the Anderson method causes massive issues for other people not doing it. That's a big difference
Yeah Europe servers are horrible for jamming, had to get on corps his server which is US :/
I didn't know about it
Well it make sense now
I heard its because raid and cd work on the same servers, separate from most other stuff
Yep
although I'm getting all sorts of errors and disconnects happening to me today
anyone have interface issues on xbox at all?
not even with just division the party or guide when you move is slow
was also lagging at white house
Unscheduled maintenance for fixing another effective way of farming xp without providing any alternative. Typical div2 devs - nerf after nerf 👍
Just do convoys
It was a literal exploit
That was ddosing the servers
Now sure just separate them but it was still an exploit
@low flame I was doing convoys for months, summit floor 10 for like 1 month and this stuff for a week (maybe).
Without all that stuff, I would be around SHD 2600.
Oh, where is promised XP revamp, which was announced after summit floor 10 nerf? Spec revamp? Fixing bugs, which are present in the game for years?
Imagine being so supreme to have the same servers for raid / countdown first of all....
I never heard anything about a “promised xp revamp”
You're not attentive enough then. Trello board will tell you more, if they didn't delete this info
“A bigger xp revamp is BEING CONSIDERED to reward players for their time”
Not promised
so the anderson farm was the reason why one of my countdown games didnt spawn any objectives or hunters at the start, only after 2 people left
Checked. No info about bans
Devs don’t ban anyone unless they warn us not to do it
And they only ban people who do it after the warning
Just read "will never be done"
https://twitter.com/TheDivisionGame/status/1628424383180963843 its over boys, farm it as long as its here
i dont think i will
What does some guy mean that the gr9 and kingbreaker are broken in that comment feed?
Probably their models or something
the best setup is a second screen and a beer
when maintenance?
I just imagined for a second. What if they delay this maintenance just like any other type of content
👌
?
!
its just maintinance
homie how small is your screen? scroll down
Thats part of the game…., just RNG screwing u over
see it
someone link me a 100% hazpro build for raid :P
Check pinned spreadsheet in #td2-build-advice
Modify it
20% from shd
That spreadsheet is meant to be used as a base for your own builds
isnt it 10%?
fyi you don't need 100% to be immune, most come in at 93% ish
great teach me
idk why it's so hard for ppl to realize this lol
ya that ik but even with the spreadsheetbuild 80+10 is still lacking a couple immunity threshold
you can literally adjust the number of red:blue cores to whatever you feel comfortable with for your shield
I personally run 4:2 for my umbra and 3:3 for my hb
cuz 6red shield is way too squishy
nah idc about dmg. just all blue hazard pro lol
Not sure it's possible to get to 100% hazpro in everything: you use that build to get as high as possible then equip mods to top off whatever specific protection you need (eg bleed or disrupt or whatever)
Hazpro isn't needed at 100 afaik
You become immune at certain breakpoints
But tbh even just the 10% from your watch is pretty significant
Yeah you don’t need 100%. It’s different for each status effect
Lol how unstable are raids and countdown?
ha, raids are extremely unplayable cuz of the stupid XP farm, glad they are fixing it
Wew...
Wow....
A boss almost die...
I crashed right after that...
game 10/10 🙂
🥹
you should try human sacrifice to improve performance
it worked wonders for me
allegedly
We should have way more loadout slots and an option to choose the summit floor map
Minus floor 100 for obvious reasons
floor 99
sounds legit 👌
Have you tried throwing a chocolate bar at the wall?
Usually works
I did 🙂
I mad 🙂
Game bad 🙂
Fix 🙂
Alternatively you can put a pink toaster in a hole then put holy water in
Me cant find any build to suit me
What do you prefer?
Assault rifle, high damage can deal the problem
I remember I did a crit up to 1.5mil with assault rifle..
Striker could work
Dps probably
I take 4 pieces striker except chest
I farming gears to get critical hit and chance high as well
Lets go to #td2-build-advice rq
Bye bye Anderson farm 😢
maintenance today i wonder what could it be 👀
They posted it on Twitter already
where is the one who was defending soloing vip objective on cd
i just did a countdown and we failed because someone was solo vip and the vip died didnt get revived lol
lol patched faster than floor 10
but not even as good as floor 10
Yea, 30 seconds per level was pretty sweet
i never got to experience it because at the time i did not know how expertise worked i thought you just used the item and can get to 21 😂 🤡
holding button to get on extract copter in countdown, crashed nice
I went from 16 to 21 in 2 days (8hrs total) with Anderson
i'd say it was better than floor 10 honestly. less of a hassle to set up. IE don't have to keep doing whatever it took to get the "correct" floor
Same
Reading comment twitter so hilarious about people mad when they patched the exp farm
anderson with 1 other person. spam oxi on 2 doors 2nd player runs into place and spam oxi on 1 door
Or spam limit enemy and not spawn anymore
then do that for 20 minutes straight. floor 10 you had to die in the end then go in and do the same thing. anderson no dying needed just time expires
Hilarious about they dont know the reason game crash because too many oxi spam nowaday
Every damn time
really is funny huh?
Totally
like a guy was in here or other server "how do i make it so i don't lag in anderson farm?"
Very
i jus told them "don't do farm?" "no" face palms
Anderson farm people are kinda braindead but that's my opinion
Imagine grind to 1000 shd level then dont know what to do
Nobody talks about oxi until anderson too
Yeeep
nah just the occassional crashing like usual
Only people who do anderson farm
Thank to Anderson farm exp
Mhm thanks to "anyone wanna anderson farm/xp farm?" 100 times everyday
nods on the 13th after they rebuilt their build system think the crashing was dropped, then people ddos the servers with farm and now everyone suffers at their expense
I mean I fucking DCd mid bounty, and I just returned to play a little
tomorrow it'll be patched
Yes, because people farm xp ddos the server
It crashed my game every 15 minutes
One guy had a idea to ddos CD to stop anderson lol
Thats just stupid. If the servers cant handle people playing then I find no words 😛
people want their expertise 21 and shd 1k+ as quickly as possible
Then after that, they quit game cuz they bore
someone somewhere out there are always trying to find an efficient method to increase shd levels
Me: ?? :D??? People these days
you forgot "they 'rage' quit cuz they bore"
Still, I wouldnt consider that a valid excuse. But hey atleast I know why the game acts up now, so thanks 🙂
I remember first time I kill a rogur agent in DZ when I try to find a dark winter
yeah, pretty much. ever since streamers posted anderson xp farm videos people in droves do it
He died faster than I thought like: . . .
hey, that was probably me
U not even in Asia server >:c
ppls response to the tweet is funny ngl
kidding though, i rarely PvP since i suck at it and hearing people talk about hackers. i experience a hacker recently and i'm like yeah no fun
Yep, look those people mad
know what would be even funnier?
if devs roll backed those who did anderson farm. 1k's of levels lost in those times they did it
where does one merge his clan
you don't
They should do that honestly
im surprised they labled it as "exploit" ,although it is a valid description of it
there are people " they didn't do that with warhound convoy or floor 10 so they won't do it here either" you guys forget warhound and floor 10 took some setting up to do, this no set up required aside 2 doors"
Plus the people that spammed it messed up the servers
thats terrible lol
Im so happy now, the game less crash in future thank to this
I was gonna try anderson to see how good it was for the exotics but after seeing it 100 times a day...
what i find hilarious though. once i realized it's an infinite spawn i was trying to get a friend to help me figure if it could be a loot or experience cave "that's super boring!" now who do you think is doing this super duper boring farm? (> <)
I doubt they have the guts to persecute the demagogues that spread the info tho kek
You: nah...maybe next time
Literally
Well, at least we can farm exotic in there doe
Ya got exactly how it was
At least
I mean speed run normal difficult and volla
yeah, run normal to blow through it, extract get random exotic after getting your doctor home
When I dont see BTSU glovea
Im so mad and I shot a black tvsk medic
He dropled btsu gloves
Me: You...taco pasta....
lol
thinking 3 tops needed to blow through it. get 1 go in each room to complete it. first person run to extraction point so when 3rd room finishes they call extraction other 2 come out and destroy adds then get to extraction point and you're done. go back in and repeat
Taco pasta
I cant swearing so I swearing eith food
Your funny skarlet
Holy ship, you motherboard terrible >:c
Good way to swear honestly
In dz: YOU FAT CABBAGE
UR MOTHERBOARD SO SLOW THAN NEED UPGRADE WINDOW 10 TO GET BETTER >:D
Oh wait...its not...
🥹
I live in EU but I'm constantly being placed on NAE servers and I don't have a VPN active. Anyone having a similar issue and is there a way to fix it?
Oops, sorry and ty. Going to post it there 👍
It's fine. We all make mistakes
Hive n drone is what I'd say
Idk which hive to use with BTSU
A bleeding hives
I use that with dessspaaaaciiitooo rifle to buff skill damage
Booster for support
The booster skill?
Booster hive
speaking of stim
why is it so bad
We don't talk about crack hive
Artificer
I dun remember da nameeeeeeee Dx
Oohhhhhh
That hive.....
....I never know how to use it like....
Erm...wut? (Gold fish brain)
artificer has its use
namely healing shield
They're super efficient fixing exploits but don't put the same effort to fix huge bugs like game crashing lol
it was proabably a very easy fix
how many people have been crying about anderson fix so far?
and its making the raids unnecessary tedious
billions maybe?
Trillions of baby's
tbf, showing that they care about players playing raids is a good gesture
Game keep crashing because lots of people ddos server with farm exp
Game has been crashing since 2021 lol. Nothing to do with ddos servers
It does just now
Hey Datz, LO5T,Fearlxss,Kettle
Soo...lets see...
As engineer:
If outdoor, use drone
if indoor, use turret
I must train to become a better engineer gaming
Anderson only does stuff to the raid/countdown servers, so it is not the reason for crashes. Countdown already had a bunch of crashes before, this farm is just making the game run badly
HOI SAPH
two things can be true at the same time. just look at the lag and stutter than happens in the xp farm. and the fact that skills arent working in raids which are also laggy.
You indeed must
Me the library says so
Yus >:3
I wish you luck on your quest for whatever the chezburger it was
Language!!! >:c
Da FiretrUCK
When people say I dont give a f-k
Me: I dont drive a firetruck, buddy
i prefer "i dont give a care"
"I better bite apple"
Me: why?
"So I can get rid of someone care about that"
Me:🥹
2/3rds of the announcement's replies minimum
good night
Last night I encountered so much lag I couldn’t shoot anything lol, literally, was just running around opening crates which took 10 years to open … enemies around me would drop like flies or I’d be downed 10 seconds later 😂 game finally caved and crashed on me during the main objective
Just deleted my 6% crit chance mod having it equipped when I was re rolling exotic : (
yummy
wah
you'll find more of them
i have 5 or 6 each of 6% chc mods and 12% chd mods. i dont bother keeping anything that isnt maxed
question is. why you re rolling an exotic you're using?
why not wait until you got a 2nd one compare the 2 then wear the better one then re roll 2nd to what you deem acceptable?
it was a terrible role, why wait?
now did you get better or worse rolls re rolling it?
it's now one upgrade away max
lucky you, some can reroll and hey this stat dropped a lot and they have to re roll who know how many times until they're where you are
with the compensation cache I've got enough exotic components lying around
i can imagine
i'm trying to throw mine into upgrading my stuff i generally like using
otherwise my components are collecting dust especially now that i'm not playing until next week XD
Interesting, how fast will community find another way to farm 😉
probably already found a way
the moment the videos for anderson dropped they started to look for another method and probably using that now is how i see it
could be, could be
that's how i see it. the farm could've been a thing from the moment it was released. these people used it to their hearts content. releases it publicly then searches another way since what they used will be patched eventually
Well the countdown/raid servers weren’t running badly before
well, game wasn't as unstable as it is after most started anderson farm
Something is going on with Anderson XP farm. I was getting about 30-32 levels per run. Now im getting 21-23 😂 Probably server is not registering kills or something... fishy
They fixed it
Fix is coming tomorrow
Still have some time to use it)
Oh right
question is raid loot capped per week or can I keep doing it?
You can keep do it as long as you got another character
I do not lol oof
the only cap are getting the keys, the loots they do drop isn't capped so you could go on and on and on as much as you like as long as you don't want to open the locked cache at the end
I see thank you
so yeah, if you leveled 4 characters to 40, you could totally run the raid 4 times and collect those keys for 4 times the chance at Eagle Bearer in DH or Ravenous in IH
Hello. I'm asking for a friend, as he does not have discord. He would like to know if anyone could possibly help out with acquiring the trophy: "Dark Zone: Occupied Hijack." If you are able to help, pm me and I'll get ya'll connected.
#lfg-playstation for that!
thank you. Sorry.
lol, i dont' dark zone (pvp) wouldn't even know what that entails XD
how does he need help with that its so easy
I'm not sure.
considering the name, probably wants someone to play target dummy or do nothing aside calling in extraction considering the name and let them cut rope
yea thats exactly what it is, you just need contaminated loot
can anyone help run manning national zoo i cant change out of story mode.
@tardy hareii think u have to complete it once on story before anything else
@grave ermine i have says replay but doesnt show any options other than story (done it twice)
so you can't change it off of story mode?
i can not
you didn't do story invaded 2 times did you?
no hasnt been invaded
you fully watched the echo at end both times?
yes, why else would it say replay?
i'm just trying to eliminate things shrugs
considering there's a manhunt target there, Invaded (black tusk units) there and the possiblity you ran it started echo and then left before it fully goes through
I've just read some comments under the tweet of fixing "super important issue with xp farm". Meanwhile, what isn't fixed:
- random CTD here and there
- player DZ lockups
- broken summit combat merit commendation
- invisible pvp players
- corner peak shield glitch
Those are some low priority stuff, in comparison to XP farm. Understandable
well, the xp farm made the server stability unplayable for others. they've been working on the random crashes for PC players as there's not common thing for everyone when they crash so it's hard to pin point
