td2-general-chat

[quick wolf]

I will say, it's quite funny when one group starts fighting the mid hunters and the second group is only just getting to mid because some godawful shit happened at the first one.
Likely due to the aforementioned damage spread or lopsided support on one end of the map.

[echo cloud]

there is typically a pretty big difference between EU and NA player behaviour in these games, i see clear tendencies in most games. the NA player is more sociable and focused on grouping up, and in this game would be more prone to run group-support builds like healers and controllers etc. EU players are more ego-mentality and typically goes through everything as a self sufficient solo carry type of player. i see the same thing on all sorts of different games.. and for division 2, me being on EU... i see almost exclusively DPS builds on my random teammates in all sorts of content i enter

[azure lintel]

i just got the game

Anyone want to play with me but Im not looking to get boosted

[echo cloud]

in escape from tarkov, if you play on NA servers, almost everyone you encoutner are teamed up - playing squads. on EU servers, everyone is a solo giga chad who wants to fight the world alone. its really weird

[azure lintel]

i got tarkov

that shit is too much though

[quick wolf]

You're going to get boosted pretty heavily even if it's unintentional because of group scaling.

Unless the people you plan to play with make a fresh character alongside yours.

[echo cloud]

i unlocked kappa, in tarkov, this wipe, and let me tell ya that shiz is no joke.. im never doing that ever again

if you dont know what that means.. lucky you

[quick wolf]

I've never played Tarkov, but apparently there's a lot of sweaty giga gamers on that game. Or so I've heard.

I take it Aune can vouch?

[echo cloud]

yep.

[azure lintel]

I did same last while and the uninstalled I refuse to play Tarkov again until they release streets map

whipe*

[echo cloud]

kappa is an achievement, where you basically long story short have to complete every quest in the game, and collect every item in the game. some of the items are so rare that its more likely to never find them, than to find them. and some of the quests are so hard to complete that you start looking around your house to find out where the hidden cameras are cause there's no way this shit is not a simulation for space aliens wanting to find out the level of madness a human will go th rough before their mind breaks

i wish i was joking but im actually not. escape from tarkov is a test of sanity

[quick wolf]

mind breaks Oof. Just like those anime girls in NTR.

[echo cloud]

the... what now?

[quick wolf]

Nothing, don't worry about.

Anyway, so it's bad, bad.

Basically, is what I'm getting here.

Do you know what the global achievement percentage is on Steam?

[echo cloud]

you mean for tarkov?

it isnt even on steam

[quick wolf]

Is it a self published game or on some other client?

[echo cloud]

but based on my knowledge, i would say maybe 1-2% of the players complete kappa

[azure lintel]

it got it's own client

[echo cloud]

perhaps even less

yeah self published

okay so apparently, 2.2% of players have completed kappa according to one of the games' emmisaries

[quick wolf]

What's an average run like? Hours-wise? I'm assuming in the hundreds before you actually "beat" the game.

[echo cloud]

a run? you mean like a game? they're called raids and have varying max timers, up to 50 minutes

[runic temple]

hey. will my account get flagged/banned if i use VibranceGUI for Divison 2? my game look so dull and i need more color

[echo cloud]

bro its easy anticheat, u cant get banned for anything

[quick wolf]

lmao

[runic temple]

lol 😄

[echo cloud]

btw do you have a geforce card?

[runic temple]

yes bro 2080Ti

[echo cloud]

so just use nvidia gamefilter

[quick wolf]

^

[runic temple]

ahh yes. i forgot about that feature completely.

[quick wolf]

You can mess around with saturation, HDR-like effects, and whatnot to get whatever look you want.

[echo cloud]

it works well

[runic temple]

wont affect fps?

[echo cloud]

nop

[quick wolf]

I don't remember if you can save these presets or not, but if you can, I recommend you do.
All my shit gets wiped with every driver update. Which is why I just stopped playing with it.

[runic temple]

yes bro. all settings gets removed after an update.

i used it in AC V.

[echo cloud]

easy, just dont update your drivers every time there is a game ready

[quick wolf]

You make your GPU work a tiny bit harder. But it's like... a drop in pool.

[echo cloud]

they dont actually change anything except for that one specific game

look at the picture i posted in #fanart-and-photomode , thats nvidia gamefilter

[runic temple]

weird. my mouse nor responding when i open nvida filter

[echo cloud]

u can do all kinds of bollocks with it

[quick wolf]

You look like you're in the American version of Chernobyl.

[echo cloud]

yeah, bug with division.. temp fix i found is alt+enter so the game is windowed, then press esc to open inventory while changing gamefilter settings, then toggle back once ur done

[runic temple]

🫂

[desert crystal]

whats the diffrences between weapon damage and pvp weapon damage

[quick wolf]

Just different scaling for different areas of the game.

Whatever damage you deal to AI is not what you will be dealing to other players.

That's the basic gist of it.

Don't ask me for specifics, though. I don't engage in PvP content so I wouldn't know how different the damage scaling is, or if it's calculated any differently from NPCs.

I think signature weapons are an example, though. If I'm not misremembering shit, sig weapons deal a fuck ton more damage to players than AI just from simple base damage alone.

[unborn ravine]

Forever waiting for PvP to fixed and the hackers getting banned.

[echo cloud]

you will indeed be waiting forever then

[unborn ravine]

Yes I will be.

Nothing but aimbots and script cheats tonight.

[desert crystal]

oh so weapon damage is enemy weapon damage then

[unborn ravine]

Yes and no.

[quick wolf]

Yeah, it's a lot more complex then that. There's a ton of different modifiers.
All weapon damage x weapon type damage x total weapon damage x amplified damage x additive damage x damage to armor x damage to health x damage to target out of cover...

There's a formula to calculate it properly. And it's 100% not what I just typed. And if it is, definitely 100% not in that order.

Found it. It's something like this: Base Bullet damage x WD x TWD x (CHD+HSD) x DTOOC x (DTA or DTH) x Amp 1 x amp 2 x etc...
So yeah, good luck figuring out your damage difference from PvE to PvP.

This is a very simply formula though, and like I said, I don't know the nuances of PvP. So you have to figure out damage modifiers yourself or ask someone else.

[unborn ravine]

You can just click view PvP stats...

That will tell you.

[low lily]

Best is just test it on player, then you will see what damage you actually do

[quick wolf]

^

[torpid plume]

They don't care about fixing the PvP as they are too busy nerfing PvE and working on apparel events only to delay them every time.

[low lily]

I mean didn't they say next title update has some PvP changes probably

If they would just get rid of unbreakable, Defender drone, Explosive Trap, we would be pretty good already

[elfin hazel]

season 11 should have pvp changes

[oak prawn]

What kind of changes ?

[lapis junco]

See you in 2029

[gilded perch]

I don't think season 11 would have pvp changes, maybe few of gear set have buff, as OD and striker
the spec revamp definitely big changes to entire pvp meta but it won't release at year4 , so i think there are no changes until 2023 march

[lapis junco]

That’ll never change

It’s not logical for ubi to improve anti cheat

[low lily]

Spec rewamp changes 1.8-2ml unbreakable meta with Cat mask and A rush backback and Optimist Famas?

[desert crystal]

You do no defender drone does some of the shooting for you

[low lily]

What you mean?

[desert crystal]

does the defender drone not shoot anything

[low lily]

It gives damage reduction

[desert crystal]

I thought that was good

[low lily]

It is too good in pvp, everyone almost runs it, that's why it shouldn't be a thing, like shield was before

[elfin hazel]

we don't know aside from them saying it should have them

[granite zephyr]

Might make a sniper build improvising themantis

Also does the Nemesis Blueprint drop cancel out possibility of other things dropping?

Other parts

[hard vapor]

Anyone know or heard of an "optimization calculator" of sorts? Even pointing me to a reference formula would be useful. I think each gear/weapon attribute is broken down into "stages" differently, but I can't find a canonical reference anywhere.

[summer frost]

I don't know of such a thing, all I have here is a link to the optimization costs. Let me know if you find such a table #ask-td2-community message

[low lily]

It just works

[rapid tundra]

I wanted to farm control points or a mission for catharsis today instead of countdown but the game said F me no mask on the map today. 🙄

[gusty dove]

oof

[bitter wraith]

Removing unbreakable would probably break pvp tbf

[sacred cairn]

Can someone drop the sheild splitter for you if they are in your party?

[tender wave]

Theoretically yes but the only way they'll be getting it as a drop is if they open the key chest at the White House for the first time while you're in their group. It doesn't drop normally, and copies purchased from Cassie aren't shareable.

[sacred cairn]

yeah I just don't want to do the last two hunters for ivory

ty

[azure lintel]

E

[oak prawn]

A

[gusty dove]

sports?

[sonic isle]

"hulu"

[oak prawn]

Guess what

[gusty dove]

wut

[sonic isle]

What ?

[oak prawn]

I saw you in DZ

[gusty dove]

when

[oak prawn]

Today unless it was someone else

[gusty dove]

I wasn't on today lol

[oak prawn]

All ik is I saw a guy same name as you just fear1xess as his name

Looks like you got a clone fearlxss 😂

[gusty dove]

I have many clones 😎

[sonic isle]

Hihi

[azure lintel]

i got a really high fever and is terminally sick and is wating for my nurse to come in 2hrs

so i got 2 hrs to game

anyone want to play the game w me i got this game yesterday

[potent lava]

I get a bug sometimes, only in the DZ, where I can move and run around but my character won't turn around. Even if I aim my gun my character shoots backwards

[brisk bridge]

Really sorry to hear that, man. Wish you all the best.

[azure lintel]

dw man

im doing as well as i can rn

just looking for some homies to game with rn

[sullen spruce]

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening 😁

[tropic temple]

I was in the West DZ and now I am stuck side strafing only, anyone know how to get rid of it ?? I relogged twice

[sullen spruce]

DZ is the Devil lol I stay out of there

[desert crystal]

what dose it look like

[tropic temple]

like I can only move side to side and tac roll

[desert crystal]

have you tried restarting your game

[tropic temple]

yes I did it twice, I was grouped up with someone in the DZ and he had the same thing and reloaded the game and was fine but mine is not fixed

[desert crystal]

you can only move side ways then

have you tried a verify

[tropic temple]

I guess it was because I remapped my mic button

I got it fixed thank u for ur help and patience @desert crystal

[desert crystal]

oh you sorted it then

[tropic temple]

yes I did thank u

[sonic isle]

waving a hand

[desert crystal]

are you

is they any point starting a new character at shd level 1260

[bitter wraith]

I just want a ACS12 with vindictive or DTTOOC...or even both...rip this games RNG

[desert crystal]

have you not got one

[bitter wraith]

Nah not yet needs at least 1 of those stats

[jade trench]

Have you been crashing lately? I'm like guaranteed a crash once everytime I play this game. It never was this bad yo. . . I can't even get through a mission without it crashing midway

[desert crystal]

what are your settings on

[jade trench]

I use Directx 12 but I never had a problem with it before and mostly everything is on max

[desert crystal]

try this chage resolution scale to 50% then try

[fiery cloud]

Hey Pain

[oak prawn]

New apperal event drops in a few days let's hope it was worth the delay

[brisk bridge]

Hiya

[boreal willow]

Is Grand Washington Hotel invaded?

[tender wave]

yes

[bitter wraith]

Yes...and im using a series x that is more powerful than my own pc ☠️ yet the xbox somehow crashes more on div 2 than any other game...excluding the once amonth crash on gta

[bitter wraith]

New masks?

[tender wave]

new outfits

[oak prawn]

Appearantly this event is based off the 6 specializions

We know what the gunner outfit looks like

[brisk bridge]

I have "99+" apparel cache keys and no inclination to open them. 😦

[oak prawn]

I'm curious as to what the firewall outfit will look like

[gusty dove]

I hope it won't be 1 outfit that is only available to the specialization.. I'd rather mix them

[gilded perch]

foam yourself or someone foam you, then you can move and aim as normal

[half cypress]

How do end game wrld tier 4

[knotty quail]

Get high enough gear score to progress to WT5

[tender wave]

check the guide pinned in #ask-td2-community

[half cypress]

Is it solo-able?

[tender wave]

yes

but call for backup if you find it too much of a struggle, the final fight of tidal basin is a little tricky with time limits and multiple targets to focus

[half cypress]

Think i will manage

Did anyone else try and find aaron keener or is he just not in the div universe now?

[tender wave]

you need the Warlords dlc to reach Keener

[half cypress]

Wait hes actually real

[tender wave]

...yes

(in the game)

[half cypress]

Ahhh say no more, i have unfinished business

[tender wave]

once you reach world tier 5, if you have the dlc, you can take a helicopter to NY to get started

[half cypress]

Wait what

So the whole of division 1 was technically pointless???

Like presumably i dont get my nyc agent or gear????

[tender wave]

things develop over time, but yeah it's not going to take any of your div1 agent stats or anything like that, you're playing a different character

[half cypress]

Rip my alpha gear then 🤦‍♂️

[tender wave]

div1 wasn't technically pointless though, just power & control has shifted over the time between the games (there's no more LMB at least)

[half cypress]

Nahhh, so a character who single handedly rebuilds new york and the jtf basically gets made redundant

And its somehow not pointless 🤷🏽‍♂️

Im just confused

[zinc shadow]

it’s a valid criticism

Div 2 does a pretty poor job as a continuation of the plot

[half cypress]

Have you seen the new division they're releasing??

[hushed saffron]

Raid??????

[zinc shadow]

which one

[half cypress]

Cant remember the name but its phone and console 🤦‍♂️

[zinc shadow]

uh no not really
Resurgence is the mobile game and Heartland is the f2p not-mobile game

[half cypress]

Ohhhh rite, thought it was the same game 😅

I dont have hope for heartland

[azure lintel]

what is the average shd lvl for players in division 2?

[potent lava]

An average is probably 2,000

[potent lava]

If heartland is a battle royale or not a traditional division game I'm not touching it

Like why not just make a new game if your not gonna make a division game. Why even try to cash grab off the division name and it not even be division

[echo cloud]

lol no way

thats cap

[gusty dove]

most are around shd 5k ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[smoky stag]

around 2k is too low
in my friends list i think the average would be about 10K with a good majority being around the 7-8k range and a good 25% of it being 15k minimum. then the number gets skewed by a few players, myself included who are anywhere between 30K - 80k

[potent lava]

No it's not. Do You know what an average is? You're always in here saying dumb shit. It's definitely not 10,000 or some shit. The MAJORITY of every player I see is no higher then 5,000. Of course I see really high levels, but that's what an average is.

I'm talking about overall average player level. Not people in my clan, or friends list. When your just in the white house and safe houses and the dz, the majority of people you see are below 5,000

[crude plover]

matchmaking for DZ West specifically.
rando joins my group.
rando: "i'm not a fan of DZ"
rando leaves.

[potent lava]

😂

[lament mirage]

Why match make dz if not fan of dz..

[echo cloud]

crawl back to bed dude, i have no interest in your toxic shitpost comments. enjoy the block

[gusty dove]

exactly

[oak prawn]

2 more levels till 40😪

[gusty dove]

had that pain too yesterday, had everything done so didnt know what else to do to level up.. bounty worked and some cp's

[last wedge]

Is there any easy to get through the first 20 levels of summit? (Kinda figure there isnt)

[viscid cargo]

set difficulty to normal and go as fast as you can

[last wedge]

@viscid cargo kinda figured lol, I was hoping g, I need the shoulder pad piece :/

Anybody starting summit and want company for 20 lvls lol

[smoky stag]

run a fire eclipse build and go with hard or challenging. not sure what the sweet spot is for speed.
too low a difficulty and the fire doesnt spread. too high and you might have a hard time.

[patent citrus]

Howdy nerds

[granite zephyr]

Guys, I got the Nemesis

I'm so happy, now time to snipe some random people in the DZ with it

[inner elbow]

I found fire sticky much safer to be used in Hard difficulty. Its initial damage is the DoT then explosion. With fire Chem its ignition first then DoT

[granite zephyr]

Ah yes, the flare gun to the face strategy

Still lights em on fire, effective

[inner elbow]

Unrelated, but explosive sticky is useless

[granite zephyr]

Do enemies shrug that off like in div 1?

I know enemies don't throw the fire one off because you know...on fire

[inner elbow]

Idk, but all it does is deal puny damage over 1 single target

[smoky stag]

has a use in DUA legendary speedruns for the heli wave at least 😄

[inner elbow]

🤔

Nope. I just run a mortar build and they die the moment they get off the rope

[granite zephyr]

Guys, I love trolling players in the dz, play skill build, ehent heyabout to extract, throw a tier 6 shock trap on em

One screamed bloody murder at me cus he missed the extraction

[smoky stag]

the overcharged sticky kills them while they're on the rope 😄
but again this is niche use for that particular section only

[inner elbow]

Yo I don't care about your sadistic kink

[granite zephyr]

Overcharged sticky? That's a Tad bit overkill

[inner elbow]

If only it inflicts bleed DoT which can then be spread

[granite zephyr]

I just overchwrge shock or shrapnel with a overcharged tier 6 defender

Invulnerable to damage

Shock to just mess around and be funny

Bleed for a little bit of trolling

[granite zephyr]

It's not being sadistic, it's simply being funny

[smoky stag]

you dont clear unless you overcharged with acosta
on speeds, the FI damage build hotswaps from opportunistic and btsu to acosta and chinalight before the 2nd batch from the heli wave drops. then throws grenade, procs insync and shoots sticky at the heli's underbelly to quickly clear the 2nd group.

all to shave off 1-2 seconds LOL

[granite zephyr]

Guys, how do I increase the defender drone protection to max

I remember I made a build with that long ago but I forgor, replaced it with HB

[smoky stag]

skill tiers and expertise upgrades
then mods

[granite zephyr]

Cus I saw these vids of a skill build throwing a defender onto a dps, dang insanr

8-9/10 bullets blocked

[smoky stag]

was it a rigger build (for "infinite" defender drones)?

[granite zephyr]

Yeah

Skill build paired with a dps

[potent lava]

does the Mantis work with the talent Perfect Focus? is the mantis 8x or above?

[smoky stag]

iirc it does

confirmed it does

[inner elbow]

yeah

didn't used to be but it was later patched

[granite zephyr]

So

It indeed is a x8 scope?

[granite zephyr]

Where perfect Focus?

[inner elbow]

Pristine Example, Airaldi brand

[granite zephyr]

Ooooooo, okay thanks

Like how I can target named airaldi with the Airaldi target loot but can't target picaro through the brand

[reef reef]

because picaro is bugged currently, wasnt added to the correct target loot pools

[granite zephyr]

Aa

[dense wraith]

can you get a honey badger through countdown AR targeted loot?

[echo cloud]

yes

[regal sage]

Will they? Just farmiong like hell at the moment for expertise

[gusty dove]

they will yes, in non-invaded dz's, though when that is we dont know

[fervent jacinth]

Yk expertise shouldn't be in non invaded

Nd should be in invaded
Considering invaded is like
The
Hardcore thing

[echo cloud]

heh, they should just remove pvp alltogether cause they have failed spectacularily with balancing it for many years

just throw in the towel and admit they aint got a clue. be better for everyone

[regal sage]

pvp in the DZ is the only reason i am playing the game.

[gusty dove]

relatable, only did pve to max my watch and then headed to dz

[potent lava]

every time i see your name there's a stupid statement below it

[inner elbow]

🔥

[hybrid ore]

@potent lava No need for that kind of attitude.

[low lily]

Dark zone and pvp side of it is only reason to play that buggy as duck game for a lot of us, you remove pvp and then what? You do same missions 100 times and then? Do it again? Dark zone is a perfect endless content because it never is same

Also if they will actually remove shd levels/proficiency levels even in ordinary dz-s and remove all that cheese stuff, it will be perfect and i will for sure play dz for atleast 2 years

[hybrid ore]

Always online looter-shooters are designed exactly that way, some of us like the gameplay loop, but you're welcome not to.

[potent lava]

you're acting like dz isnt part of the gameplay loop.

[low lily]

Funniest stuff was actually in div1 how everyone hyped the first gameplay not talking about the look of it, but what actually happened. The group went and did a landmark or whatever it was called back in the day, extracted and got attacked by other players. Now you attack someone on extraction and you are the worst players ever, like it isn't part of the game.

[hybrid ore]

The DZ and LZ are entirely separate, and for a lot of players, no it's not part of their loop.

There's a reason why you can obtain every single gear+gun ingame without entering the DZ.

You're more than welcome to enjoy both aspects of the game, or either. But there's no reason for anyone to pick on the other and call it "useless".

[low lily]

I just personally think they have slowly moved away from dark zone being a big part, to attract more casual people, they have done the game so casual friendly with those updates, but at the same time they have taken away any challenge the game has, every content you play even raids after few completions just feels too easy, why we still don't have higher difficulty for raids..

[hybrid ore]

I don't disagree with that statement, although that is kinda div2 in a nutshell itself.
div1 was way more "RPG" in certain respects, whereas div2 is more "arcade", always has been.

anyway, enjoy your conversation. I need to go make food. Even AI's eat sometimes.

[low lily]

I understand they try to attract new people so they can say that playerbase is high and stuff but there should be atleast some insanely hard stuff for us to do ya know

[gilded perch]

They have never confirm they will remove

Also remove expertise in dz are really stupid, those player who pay effort to upgrade their expertise, to be stronger in pvp, remove the expertise is delete their effort, holy crap

And dz never a place for fair fight, those player who are lazy, never pay effort then ask devs cancel other player's effort, that's pathetic

[hybrid ore]

Let's take it down from a 9 to a 5

Still not here.

[low lily]

Putting 100s of hours into farming shouldn't give you advantage over pvp, pvp should be about skill, using environment, team etc to win. If you win a fight because you play 10x more pve then something is wrong

Why would i get a disadvantages in pvp because i didn't farm floor 10 and then didn't do 30 new characters?

[gilded perch]

Because, dz never for fair fight, how many effort you put it on pve, it suppose effect you pvp
having lot of build to handle different situation, is also make your pvp strong, it also need farm, farm 100hours to get 4 build setup and 25 hours to get 1, it also "unfair"

if you want a "ture" fair fight, everyone use same build, same status, that's fair, welcome to COD or CSGO

[low lily]

100h to farm 4 builds? What.....fair fight isn't a problem, i kill solo 4 man groups etc daily like @fervent jacinth and other people know. Problem is that pvp should be a pvp, you should be good because you are actually a good player not because you farmed more. If you don't understand the difference then i think that topic is over on my side 🤠

[fervent jacinth]

What's the topic of discussion

I ain't reading above

[low lily]

Proficiency and shd levels on dz

[fervent jacinth]

Only in invaded

That's what I feel

Else i mean
I don't mind it in normal

It's
Ok
Takes a bit of time but it's worth it

But then again

Where's the skill in jst grinding

[gilded perch]

if you are good player, you suppose farm for your build, for example, those speedrunner also need to farm expertise, just like pvp
other player spending 100h to farm, then why u cant?

[fervent jacinth]

Anyone with a high expertise but less skill yet anyone with low expertise yet wayyyy more skill
Deserves the win

Wait lemme rephrase

Less expertise more skill should be dominant

[gilded perch]

honestly, if you having good pvp skill, you still able to beat those expertise20 noob, if you noob, you beat nothing

[fervent jacinth]

Nah
Expertise puts advantage

20 v 10 even if 10 is skillfully better
20 wins

[gilded perch]

then why u cant farm

optimization is also puts advantage

[fervent jacinth]

Who said we can't

[gilded perch]

according your word

[fervent jacinth]

Optimization is normalised in normal dz

[sonic isle]

hello there

[gilded perch]

nope

[low lily]

Why we need to waste our time to farm something what litterly is pointless waste of time, so we won't have a disadvantages in pvp, farming gear etc make sense but proficient not

[fervent jacinth]

Yes
It is

[sonic isle]

what is pointless ?

[gilded perch]

normalised is only for 30lv player inside non-occupied dz, or conflict

[low lily]

Also that argument that others did and now i should also waste my time, doesn't make sense

[gilded perch]

if you 40lv, it do nothing to you

[unborn ravine]

We should be asking ourselves the following...

[gilded perch]

if you 30lv and you are in conflict or non-occupied dz, it normalise your gear to lv40, that is

[fervent jacinth]

Ok

[unborn ravine]

Who put the milk in the cabinet?

[fervent jacinth]

Your mom

[sonic isle]

cat people

[gilded perch]

haha

[fervent jacinth]

[sonic isle]

and then close the door once the cat is in

[gilded perch]

try to wear a gear with 1%chc and then walk inside dz, it still 1%

[sonic isle]

i t's 0.5% then

[fervent jacinth]

What

[gilded perch]

40lv already and still dreaming "normalized"🙃

[sonic isle]

"normalized" 🤦‍♀️

[unborn ravine]

PvP needs some rework...it's needed rework for years now but you really can't do that with current system and not make it be like CoD.

Leave expertise in PvP t's not hard of a grind until you start getting into the exotics or DZ exclusives. It just comes down to skill once your gear is at like lvl 17.

[gilded perch]

if they remove expertise in conflict, i am agree actually, because it design for 4v4 and suppose fair fight as much as possible
but dz , nope

[unborn ravine]

Conflict is not a fair fight lol.

Get a wipe and switch to skills, mortar spawn, easy W.

LvL 30 players on the team don't help. Underpowered. Easy L.

1 Person using a skill build in conflict can win the game. Skills are OP. Hazard protection builds don't help, no damage for the remaining 3.

[gilded perch]

ya there should be some change of map to make it protect spwan point better, and also match making, it's hard to carry when your 3 30lv teammate keep dying

but honestly mortar is not a problem, emp, explosive resis build, anything else

if you want to good at pvp, you should have those measure to counter your opponent's build

[unborn ravine]

1 counter for 1 player in conflict doesn't help fight the remaining 3 players on the enemy team lol

Nerf skills into the ground for PvP then it will be fair lol

[gilded perch]

if your 3 other teammate cant against 3 players on the enemy team
that's not you fault, you already suppress 1 and you do your best

[knotty quail]

Well no, why even have skills then?

Like, go play CoD if you want that

[gilded perch]

COD have UAV not fair enough, CSGO fair

[unborn ravine]

@knotty quail nerf certain skills into the ground. Not all of them. If they can block talents in PvP they can block skills

[gilded perch]

seems they block player's emp and hazard protection build and explosive resistance build already, so player ask for nerf skills

[smoky stag]

plays div2 pvp
wants it to play like not div2
lol

[tropic compass]

Is this week 1 or 2 of the league?

[smoky stag]

1

[desert crystal]

does the pentagone in game look the same as the real one

[fair lake]

Yes, you can try invading real-life pentagon facility after playing the Division 👌

[echo cloud]

congratulations, you're now on a list :p

[fair lake]

👀

[granite zephyr]

Guys, I'm hitting for maximum of 20 Mil of damage on headshot with the Mantis on the sniper build with chainkiller ,is it high?

[smoky stag]

try 24-26

[knotty quail]

I think that's about the number you'll be getting

Maybe more, yeah

I was doing 24 with WD so

[oak prawn]

GM yall since it's morning here

[knotty quail]

I dunno if Mantis is supposed to hit more

[granite zephyr]

Yeah, the White death hit about that much

[smoky stag]

it should hit 25 regularly

[granite zephyr]

My mantis only hits for 20~21

[smoky stag]

more with head achilles

[granite zephyr]

Oh yeah

[smoky stag]

maxed out build?

[granite zephyr]

I haven't gotten he Achilles yet

Not maxed

All about 75%

[smoky stag]

ahh room for improvement then

[granite zephyr]

But after I got the build

God, went on control point rampage alone in challenging

[smoky stag]

what u running build wise?

[brittle spoke]

Is anyone else's Division 2 game keep crashing or is it just me?

[granite zephyr]

Sawyer kneepads
Picaros holster
2 Airaldy
Chainkiller
I don't remember the last

Sawyer's because I'll be standing still, racking up the extra damage

[smoky stag]

until you get picaros rolled to red i think you should run providence.
i think

[granite zephyr]

Oh yeah

1 providence, the mask

The last one

[smoky stag]

try
punch drunk
2 airaldi
providence
chainkiller
fox/sawyers

or chainkiller + airaldi vigi and 4 aces

[granite zephyr]

Yes

And plus, I will try the nemesis on it as well

Might see some more destruction

But with the mantis though, I have endless decoys to not get shot at

[smoky stag]

i dont like the sawyers as it hinders mobility

[granite zephyr]

And I'm quite fine if I don't miss the headshot, since most enemies have a 1 hit window before being shifted to you

[granite zephyr]

Mobility?

[smoky stag]

you move you lose damage

[oblique thicket]

after 10 seconds

[granite zephyr]

So you are recommending replacing the Sawyer's with Fox prayer's

[smoky stag]

not really.
just stating a personal preference

[granite zephyr]

I got a spare fox prayer's, I can get to work, recalibrating

And it's so convenient finding Pristine Example, just 1 countdown game, got one decent one

Also I realized the Hunters in countdown count as Black Tusk Elites

Heard the headshot kill sound and the event count going up

[bitter wraith]

Whats the best method (area/difficulty) to farm expertise

[oak prawn]

Countdown or summit

Both are great to farm gear and weapons for expertise

[echo cloud]

must definitely be countdown.. the loot/hour in there is unmatched by anything else i would say

i think summit is insanely overrated

[pliant sentinel]

whats a good chest/bp talent for a foam build

[molten spire]

Eclipse Protocol chest and pack, although Creeping Death also is a solid choice

[granite zephyr]

Eclipse with status effect? Creeping death

Aw you typed faster

[pliant sentinel]

got it lemme see if i got any bags

[granite zephyr]

You can craft it

If you get the Skill core, just change the attribute to status effect

[pliant sentinel]

i got 4 ep pieces alr, just looking for a good brand bag

[granite zephyr]

Ep?

[pliant sentinel]

eclipse 🅱️rotocol

[granite zephyr]

A,

I just call it the burner since I use it fore fire all the time

500k per tick for about 14 seconds

But with the foam? It's a beast

Keep the dudes stuck for a whole time cool-down of a shell

[granite zephyr]

I crafted mine and just changed the other effect to Status effect

[pliant sentinel]

my game crashed while i was trying to craft

[granite zephyr]

F

Wait, Do the hunters fall for the decoy?

[warm minnow]

why wouldnt they

[granite zephyr]

Some enemies like Elites don't focus on the decoy after being shot

Some elites

That is why Nemesis is my goal

2 nemesis

One for spare in case my dumbass destroys the one I got from shared

I feel like I should have at least 3 nemies

Because I had 3 lady deaths but managed to destroy it all

[warm minnow]

bruh...

[pliant sentinel]

crashes are back again

any soft fixes?

[hybrid ore]

There's a reddit link floating around #unofficial-troubleshooting, that basically solved them for me.
That and a certain standby list cleaner running when div2 is.

[mild tangle]

Im getting disconnects with a countdown when Im in a DZ extraction. consistenly

"Any action will cancel this" .. but no action actually does.

[hybrid ore]

Are you queuing for CD while in the DZ?

[mild tangle]

No. Im grinding resources so I can buy the Orbit... 😦

[hybrid ore]

Okay you've lost me.
When you say "countdown" do you mean the Countdown PvE mode, or do you mean the DZ timer at an extraction?

[mild tangle]

It says "20 seconds to disconnect. Any action will cancel this" .. or something to that effect.

[hybrid ore]

Weird.

[pliant sentinel]

the one on exploit protection?

turned everything off, lets see if this works

[hybrid ore]

Yep that one.

[azure lintel]

Anyone know where the link to the summit difficulty/loot scaling page is?

[pliant sentinel]

rivens if this works im buying u a baloney sandwich

[viscid cargo]

if i understand you correctly its the same as anything else

[azure lintel]

I don't understand, that's why I asked for the link. I'm a bit tired so most things that should make sense don't.

I was looking for a drop rate for a particular exotic while I'm running through summit.

[azure lintel]

nvm I found it

[viscid cargo]

named drop for exotics for a heroic enemy is 3% iirc. they will always drop exotics from your targeted loot, and then its an even chance to get one of whatever exotics from said targeted loot pool

[summer frost]

Does shepherd rank reset at the end of a season since inception or was it a change they did afterwards?

I'm curious cause it sounds like a weird decision to reset shepherd ranks periodically

[granite zephyr]

Can't wait to unleash my modified Mantis build

[surreal orbit]

Been that way since inception

[rain lark]

Just beat logan bulletsponge smitt on solo legendary

What a pain

[granite zephyr]

I remember the boss having a lot of health but my 2 dps team-mates whipped out the nemesis

[summer frost]

Welp,, Massive must have a reason

[rain lark]

He dropped big horn, did i get lucky or thats what he drops?

[granite zephyr]

No need to destroy backpack, go for the head

[granite zephyr]

Lucky

Bighorn is legendary exclusive weapon

[rain lark]

Sick

[granite zephyr]

A sniper in an Aug, aim in scope to shoot in sniper shots

[rain lark]

What other exotic is legendary exclusive?

[granite zephyr]

More like Rifle

[granite zephyr]

Not sure, Bighorn is the only exotic I got from the Legendary

I did get a Ridgeway's pride from a team-mate, which dropped from a red enemy in the TB legendary

[hybrid ore]

Bighorn is the only Exotic in div2 locked to Legendary, and it can only be obtained within from Named Enemies.

[rain lark]

Nice

[hybrid ore]

Note: that includes Hunters on Floor 100 of Summit.
So you've got a farming spot right there.

[hallow harness]

Just lost my level 20 hardcore character because my game froze and crashed

[oak prawn]

Oof that's a risk for hard-core

1 of my biggest fears

[hallow harness]

Yeah when I play I have nothing else running on my computer

But still

[hybrid ore]

Try the fixes list on the Reddit page that's often mentioned over in #unofficial-troubleshooting, those solved a lot of crash issues for me.

[hallow harness]

Alright thanks

[crude plover]

I'm really confused about Price of Power.. how the F do I start it?
It told me to join the Micro League. WTF is the Micro League? Clearly I'm missing something, and it's probably terribly obvious to everyone else, but I am so lost.

[mellow moat]

@crude plover Whe nyou get in your should have to talk to Manny at the White houses you start there

[reef reef]

Price of power is the season currently on. What level are you?

[mellow moat]

This starts your manhunt

[crude plover]

I'm at max level now

[reef reef]

Have you completed the world tiers and the DLC?

[crude plover]

there was something telling me to do the grand washington hotel on hard, but that went away

[crude plover]

I did the warlords of ny DLC. not sure what world tiers are

[reef reef]

World tiers are a system that is overwritten when you start the dlc. Dont worry about it.

[brisk bridge]

Go to map, click on Manhunt and you should see a bunch of tasks like this if you click on Micro: https://i.imgur.com/RJvI7Bt.jpg

[reef reef]

Then yeah, just go talk to manny in the white house.

[crude plover]

ok. i'll try that. thanks

[brisk bridge]

(After talking to Manny in WH)

[azure lintel]

i just got the game the other day anyone want to play with me im not looking to be boosted or anything and want to do the campaign

[crude plover]

ok.. Manny has nothing to tell me. i think i already spoke to him.
i'm told to listen to a recording between him and Captain (Lewis?). I got to the recording and cannot interact with it

[azure lintel]

if you want to paly with me jsut pm and idc if you are Na 🙂

[reef reef]

Check for people in #lfg-pc, bound to find someone

[azure lintel]

oh sorry

forgie for being big dum dum

@reef reef i wrote there do i have to remove the msgs that i typed here?

[bitter wraith]

Countdown and summit are boring af now though because they are repetitive

[oak prawn]

those 2 are the fastest way to get expertise up

[inner elbow]

To an extent

When all that's left are your skills and named items

That's when you wish you saved up enough SHD points to spend them on filaments

[hybrid ore]

Can always run an alt through WONY. Only takes a few hours really.

[inner elbow]

Only for those dedicated enough to do them though. From personal experience, it's not worth it.

[hybrid ore]

It's certainly faster than regretting your spenditure of SHD points.

[stray comet]

What is happening with the Closer backpack? The one I had before TU16 was armor, chc and chd and now armor, chc and armor regen. And another one that I had is now just gone. So I've lost one and one is changed.

[surreal orbit]

With a high enough watch level it’s definitely worth it. Over 15k in shd points here….

[brisk bridge]

Interesting. Killing the first hunters in CD counted towards "BT Elite" for the league.

[zealous vortex]

Hey guys, is anyone having issues maintain a stable connection to the D2 servers? I have a stable connection for about 7 minutes, then it becomes unstable.

[gusty dove]

also a way to level up too, every run I did I went a level up

[brisk bridge]

Not the most efficient in terms of time if that's your primary objective. Convoys with directives still rule for that. Can be done with each one in 90-120 seconds.

[gusty dove]

yeah true but still, if you are farming for gearsets it's useful that it comes with it

[coarse gull]

of course, as long as the game doesn't crash every 5 minutes at ft

[brisk bridge]

LOL, I logged in for the first time today about 2 hours ago. Joined a random group for mission. Game crashed 2 minutes into it.

[gusty dove]

my game crashed yesterday when a friend invited me to countdown, hadn't crashed a whole day until at that point

[brisk bridge]

I'm starting to think this is some perverse bonding ritual the devs created. The way your commitment to something keeps going up the more you endure obstacles and go past them.

[coarse gull]

I always clean one checkpoint after starting the game to check if the game likes me today xd

[thorny pelican]

hello everyone

would you guys recommend getting this game or no?

[barren crescent]

did you play div 1?

[thorny pelican]

yes but was much longer and not heavily

[barren crescent]

more of the same then, some differences like Control points and skils, but over all, cover shooter doing cover shooter things.

[brisk bridge]

You're on a Division discord server so your responses are likely to be rather biased.

[thorny pelican]

i get that but if it wasnt fun there wouldnt be players ygm

[barren crescent]

true, not like i can recommend Bloodbowl or anything or at least not for long till the mods do mod things 😄

[brisk bridge]

Well, I bought it along with the expansion for peanuts and I've got good value from it. Eventually the grind could get a bit monotonous and repetitive, but there's a fair bit of good content for your money. I took a break for a year and just came back 3 months ago.

[barren crescent]

It is fun enough if you liked div 1. Lurk a bit and see what problems people face, usually the having a garbage time staying connected. I was in that boat till i had to do a clean install of win10 and now my crashing issues drastically decreased. Not vanished, still crashes randomly once in a while but i can go days without a crash, and then crash twice in a row.

Wierd thing i tried, for that random crash twice in a row is restart Ubioconnect

[coarse gull]

Does hb max stacked hits harder than striker max stacked?

[fiery cloud]

Hey Aspect, Pain, Rivens, Fearlxss,

@thorny pelicanif you enjoyed the story in div 1 then that story ends in div2 and 2 more stories begin

[gusty dove]

hey saph :D also yeah ^

[rapid tundra]

I FINALLY got catharsis to drop from my last exotic cache lastnight

[brisk bridge]

Hi Saph

[plush otter]

overall a striker is more dmg output than a striker, hb does have that bonus armour, but a hb with chest is behind a striekr with bp, and if you do go chest+bp striker and you are doing something that does allow you to easily get to 200 stacks, then striker wins out by allot, but that is situational

overall striker>HB is the short version

[hallow harness]

What do you guys think is the best skill is in hardcore and normal mode?

[reef reef]

Reviver hive in both. Second chances are great.

[hallow harness]

Understandable that would be my choice but in hardcore you instantly die so the Reviver wouldn’t work

[reef reef]

It does work. If you go down with reviver hive and you dont get shot, you get revived.

[hallow harness]

Fr?

[reef reef]

When you dont have reviver hive equipped you just die, when you have it equipped you go into down but not out. Fr.

[hallow harness]

Didn’t know that I had it equipped once and died so that must of just Been a bug thanks for the info

[plush otter]

you can be killed while in that down state before the hive revives you, either by status effects like bleed or fire, or just by beign shot by enemies before it revives you

[reef reef]

Still better than the alternative

[plush otter]

definitely, more just to say its not a bug

[reef reef]

yea sorry misunderstood

[coarse gull]

if I play with a friend like cd can I join this game again if the game crashes?

[fiery cloud]

it may auto toss you out because it could consider you dead

Or voluntarily left

[coarse gull]

So there is nothing i can do about random cd crashes?

[fiery cloud]

Not really

[potent lava]

I was having a terrible time with countdown like a week or two ago. I literally couldn't play it for a few days. I would crash everytime. It's better now

[mystic zealot]

i'm a bit curious, say, if one somehow trap or get one of those elite outcast rusher stuck somewhere, perhaps by foaming him, will the fire gone out or will it just reignite after the duration is over?

[brisk bridge]

If you trap him and shoot him in the chest weak point, he still explodes.

[mystic zealot]

i mean, after the on-fire bar is over, will it refresh on him

since well, he's on fire

[rain lark]

Tidal basin is hard hf omg

[mystic zealot]

the legend one or the standard one?

[brisk bridge]

If he explodes from being shot in the chest, he dies. So that's moot. If you set him on fire with a skill, that has a set duration based on your build.

[rain lark]

Solo legend

[brisk bridge]

Not surprising. It's not meant to be solo'd.

[mystic zealot]

oh, what i'm trying to say is, since the elite one set himself on fire, and the on-fire status bar actually showed up on him, if that one expires, will it reappear again ?

[brisk bridge]

He will be dead before it expires, unless there is some phenomenon I'm not aware of.

[coarse gull]

Today I only managed to complete 1 cd for 10 tries, the rest either kicked me out or only half of my team was left

[brisk bridge]

I see Countdown as a form of Russian Roulette. Either you crash, or some members of your team crash and your team is short half the time.

[gusty dove]

can't imagine the pain you go through when doing it solo.. rather do it in a group honestly

[coarse gull]

in my case it is only the first day of this kind, I haven't been playing for a long time, but I have already attended these few days. Either way, it's a nightmare.

[gusty dove]

God I just realized, imagine you are in the dz pvp'ing and the game crashes 💀 how pissed you will be then

[signal river]

I'm constantly crashing today

been fine the past few times... just feels like some times it just goes "not today"

[coarse gull]

When I was doing the legendary tidal basin yesterday, at the last stage, just before the destruction of the turrets, one of us was thrown by the lobbies. That's L.

[brisk bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-shall-not-pass-lord-of-the-ring-gif-5234772

[signal river]

seems about right yeah

[rapid tundra]

Does anyone know a efficient way to farm steel?

[bitter wraith]

Is the dark winter and rock n roll exclusive to anything?

[reef reef]

Dz yes

Spreadsheet exists and tells you if stuff is dz or not

[bitter wraith]

Dark winter is dz only? Or not?

[coarse gull]

yes

but you can get it from named item box

[knotty quail]

I got a unicorn DW from some Legacy cache haha

[reef reef]

Both dark winter and rock and roll are dz exclusive. For future reference, use the spreadsheet.

[brisk bridge]

You can also get it from named caches if that's what you're asking. At least that's how I got them both because I never go to the DZ. All subject to RNG, of course.

[gusty dove]

oddly enough I've gotten the rock n roll from countdown when I was a lower shd level.. didn't had any countdown coins to open named caches yet so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk bridge]

I think that might have been where I got it too.

[mystic zealot]

welp, just done the Micro manhunt annnnnd, didn't get the key...any idea on how to fix it?

[oak prawn]

restart game maybe?

[mystic zealot]

just did, 0/1 lewis recording

well then, in the name of that one BT rifleman, "i'll just shoot him again" then

[bitter wraith]

Rip my RNG id rather just farm 800 field recon to optimize it all to maximum

[hallow harness]

That rifleman was pretty funny

[brisk bridge]

I needed to do the damn thing a second time. Fucking bugged PoS. If you want to do a group run, make sure you start the matchmaking.

[mystic zealot]

sole, sadly, due to unstable connection on my end

[rapid tundra]

Really? Makes sense on why I’ve never gotten another one. I got my dark winter from countdown and rockroll too. I haven’t been to DZ yet, 🤔 I was low shd as well.

[silver ridge]

anyone experiencing connection problems

[signal river]

I'm running a heartbreaker build... I have 1 carbine 7 with +CHD and 1 with +dttooc - which one is better?

[reef reef]

Dttooc

[signal river]

cool thanks

[bitter wraith]

Are the rock n roll and dark winter BOTH literally only obtainable through dz TL and named caches/conflict caches?

Or is that rock n roll only and DW is obtainble trhough targeted loot?

[reef reef]

Ffs. They only drop in the dz and from named caches/conflict caches (and stuff that just gives you a named item, like some manhunt bosses), they cannot drop through targeted loot in the open world

[bitter wraith]

I wonder how i got the original dark winter then since i never did dz or anything

[reef reef]

Named item cache or a manhunt boss, or from a season pass

Also stop pinging me

[oblique gazelle]

@analog pecanyoneanyone here got summit lvl100?

[reef reef]

yeah you just pinged a random person

dont try to ping everyone, wont work and we will laugh at you

[oblique gazelle]

ok noted

[reef reef]

just ask in #lfg-pc

[oblique gazelle]

sorry for that

[coarse gull]

Are there items with high value and easy to get? I constantly missing a cash and was wondering is there some tricky way?

[rain lark]

Playing against black tusk all you hear is beep beep beep boom

[rain lark]

Do bounties

Keep your items for the library or materials

[coarse gull]

I completely forgot about them

[wooden pasture]

How do I check my firewall progress? It won't let me view field research

[placid shadow]

Yo guys

everyone i play with get random crashes in Division 2

is this a thing nowdays ?

Also my reddit post with the question got removed from "redundant topic" , what is this clown shit bro

[reef reef]

random crashes happen to a lot of people

[echo cloud]

reddit is a very special place for very special people

=D

[gusty dove]

^ hes not wrong

[placid shadow]

so do they like want to fix this problem ? because i play with my 3 mates and they crash

what are the chances

[reef reef]

they've been trying to fix the crashes, its not as simple as setting crashing to dont

[placid shadow]

i have like 3 posts on reddit, but i know what you mean papi

[placid shadow]

damn bro, i think they will abandon this like any other ubisoft game, like that assasins creed game that you have to rollback drivers just to not get 20 fps

[reef reef]

they've actually done the opposite

[placid shadow]

they had dx12 crash bug since like division 1 and they didn't fix that too

[reef reef]

after s4 they were gonna stop development then they noticed the loyal community and gave us more stuff

[placid shadow]

i logged like 1700 hours in division 2 now that i came back to it it's really annoying

[reef reef]

there are some fixes you can try, as well

[placid shadow]

that's cool and all, but game should not stop working if they even stop development i think

that's what i'm trying right now

[reef reef]

you dont need to ping me with your replies

you can turn it off

[placid shadow]

turn what off

[granite zephyr]

This

[reef reef]

when you reply to a message, you can turn the ping off

[granite zephyr]

Make it this

[placid shadow]

oh ye , sure

[reef reef]

thanks

[granite zephyr]

Off I go to find another pristine example

[placid shadow]

so still, so far it's been like this

yesterday for example it crashed like 2 times

[reef reef]

it used to crash more, they are still fixing the crashing

[placid shadow]

and right after launching the game , and today it happened 10+ times for me and my mates too

[reef reef]

its a high priority issue, but its not been easy to fix

[placid shadow]

i don't remember it crashing at all like few years ago in dx11 mode tho

this must be something they introduced recently with some kind of an update, or driver issue ?

[echo cloud]

been looking for a good one for days, i get all wrong rolls

[reef reef]

started either s3 or s4, iirc

[granite zephyr]

Got all red, but protected reload

[placid shadow]

alright, i just hope they still working on fixing this

thanks for the info bro

[granite zephyr]

So I just slapped on a Perfect headhunter instead

[reef reef]

you can check what issues the devs are aware of and working on in #unofficial-troubleshooting 's pinned messages, on the known issue board

[echo cloud]

headhunter and focus are not simply interchangeable like that, its completely different playstyle

[granite zephyr]

I'm more of a shoot and shift person, so focus is not for me

Stacking up damage from previous kills are godly

[echo cloud]

then neither would headhunter be i guess

[placid shadow]

the "fix live" section of trello board is fixes they already implemented ?

[reef reef]

that is what fix live means, some have more in their description

[placid shadow]

hmm the only crashes box i found is that on fix live, meaning they no longer work on any of that ?

[reef reef]

"We have 10 fixes coming with Season 10: Price or Power release, big and small. It won't stop here, and we will share more updates as soon as we have them."

"It won't stop here"

[placid shadow]

i hope so bro

[echo cloud]

you sure you didnt misunderstand how headhunter works btw?

also, out of curiosity, how is it to play chainkiller builds on console? isnt it hard to line those headshots?

[novel laurel]

Easy

I turn aim assist off when I go for headshot focused builds

But I also play a lot of the more high skill gap games

[echo cloud]

seems to me like headshot builds with a controller is like one of those things that are obviously not a good combination :P

i mean, chainkiller builds can already be annoying enough as it is on PC, with the erratic movement and twerking and paniced running and stuff the AI does. while playing alone its fine, but in teams it can be really terrible..
staying humble but on point, im not a bad player, and my aim is decent.. just division 2 is so weird, no movement prediction concepts etc applies here

a lot of times i just switch build cause its simply frustrating how the shots miss due to absurd AI movement

cant imagine dealing with that on console

[novel laurel]

I've spent a lot of time using regulus HH and I mostly shoot targets in the head I can't even see, I can tell where to shoot just from where their health bars are at without even really seeing them

You can definitely still predict their movements too especially if it's a control point or mission you are familiar with

[granite zephyr]

With mantis it's easy

Keep aim in thr circle, keep the center in it and it's easy, track after the target

[granite zephyr]

I just stay 50 meters away and decoy, as I hit the heads

[granite zephyr]

Also, Who says I'm using a controller?

[echo cloud]

im assuming, cause console

every time i check out some division 2 streamers, they're almost always console players and when i see em go into the darkzone etc, noone hitting anything, everyones just spraying everywhere and taking a good week to kill eachother, its a whole different story on PC lemme tell ya.

[granite zephyr]

Not when I plug in mouse and keyboard

Lemme tell ya. I tried strafing in xboz with controller, doesn't work
Someone with M&K comes in, strafes like it's the first game

And a group of manhunts were doing that

So I was like screw this, and grabbed it as well

[echo cloud]

i mean thats kinda what im saying

controller just not designed for this kind of game, too many handicaps come with it

[novel laurel]

I've seen people on controller stutter walk like it's nothing

Dayz is my most played game on ps and I've gotten clips one tapping people with handguns at 75+ meters with controller

[granite zephyr]

Where 150m+?

I wanna see someone snipw someone else with a revolver

[novel laurel]

I have a clip of that lol

I intentionally handicap myself on pvp servers because I think running around with automatics is too easy at this point

[echo cloud]

i got no games to play and its making me depressed

all the games are terrible

[inner elbow]

🤔

[mental bison]

Bad rats

[fringe delta]

anyone have cassie in their map?

[hallow harness]

Cant see her when I find the snitch

[fringe delta]

you found snitch?

[hallow harness]

Yeah

[fringe delta]

u pc?

[hallow harness]

For the past 3 days each day when I find him I can’t find Cassie on my map and yes

I’m on pc

Can you not find him Mvrs

[broken brook]

where is lincoln memorial mission? i can't find it anywhere on my map

nvm im blind

[viral hill]

Im sick and tired of this game

There are some much cheaters on playstation now

And theyre killing low level players being invisible and shooting thru walls

And i got footage of this shi

Its depressing

[echo cloud]

lol imagine how it is on pc then

[summer frost]

Did anyone expect that countdown would have their own lvl/rank just like underground had in td1?

[azure lintel]

no i didnt expect that because it dropped around the same time as expertise

and if they wanted to confuse the player base even more that would have been a perfect way

[summer frost]

Does the game have support for kb on xbox?

[summer frost]

Yeah and expertise didn't have any impact at all, so it went kinda unnoticed after a short while

[granite zephyr]

There's always a way

[placid shadow]

is the easiest way to do legendary missions a skill build atm btw ?

[granite zephyr]

Yes

[echo cloud]

no it isnt

skill builds are poo

[placid shadow]

then what

no matter how much armor you have they shred you

[echo cloud]

a proper dps team with negotiator and a healer will outperform any skill build

[placid shadow]

what if duo or a solo

[echo cloud]

negotiator, easy

[reef reef]

Skill builds are slow but safe, negotiator is faster but less safe

[placid shadow]

i mean in legendary ... idk

i mean weekly exotic missions

[echo cloud]

in my opinion, negotiator with proper shield peeking is as safe as it gets

[smoky stag]

Nego or striker
Hunters fury (headhunter or scorpio) on narrow sections

[placid shadow]

the problem is

they spam like 50000 uav's

and always flak full time

[gusty dove]

take it from doom btw, he's the expert im sure lol

[smoky stag]

kill them fast, either gun em down midrange or close in on em
shield peek.

[placid shadow]

okay so no wasting time on demo build i had in mind ? 😦

[smoky stag]

use a decoy or turret as a secondary skill

[placid shadow]

ah

[cunning merlin]

Good day everyone

[echo cloud]

g'day mate

[smoky stag]

i suggest you go to youtube and watch videos by Roterblitz, MullerTi and some other leggo speedrunners

[placid shadow]

sure i'll try that, i was just watching MARK of BLADEz video on heartbreaker build

and i made that set

[smoky stag]

nah dont watch any of those content creators with their clickbait builds
speedrunners only.
even if you cant match their time you should be able to pick up strategies that are tried and tested and used by the leg speeds community

[placid shadow]

yeah i thought that their thumbnails and titles were really clickbaity :<

but this videos in japanese

if someone screenshot of a nice build i'l love that a lot

[smoky stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwVfD9skuY0

[echo cloud]

im not a fan of heartbreaker at all

[placid shadow]

i think it's good untill you start doign legendary stuff ?

lots of running around

[echo cloud]

i think its a set that is perfectly "fine", but there are many other builds that can perform t he same job, but much better.. so that makes heartbreaker not bad but also pretty pointless to use in favour of something else..

[placid shadow]

i see

well at least i got the backpack

so 4 peace negotiator , memento and what was that for holster

[smoky stag]

no memento
either vigilance or nego backpack

[placid shadow]

oh

[placid shadow]

thank's for the info guys

i guess i was falling into the clickbaits , and since i mostly work a lot lately i don't really have time to figure it all out myself

when i last played there was no green equipment, so that was a looong time ago

no wait i lie, last i remember dying to lucy and buddy again and again and again

ahhh good times

[granite zephyr]

Or you can be rambo and Dodge into them at the right timing, avoids damage entirely

Might go make a 2Airaldi(Vigilance +headhunter) with 4 Ace

[echo cloud]

better going for chainkiller then

and 1 airaldi backpack

[placid shadow]

just one mroe question

as for now , higher difficulty = better rolls right ?

[echo cloud]

on average yes, but u can still get god rolls on low difficulty and visa versa.. its just less likely

[placid shadow]

and the chance for exotics ?

[echo cloud]

i dont remember that but i think its like +2% per difficultyu or something like that

i will say this about gear farming.. nothing really beats countdown. u get so much loot there, u can target loot whatever it is you want, and then you can spend the currency you earn to buy countdown boxes... that includes exotic caches.

i would say without a doubt in my mind, countdown is the #1 place to farm gear right now cause of how much u get. and its still heroic quality. so i would personally value that substantial loot per hour much higher than a slightly increased quality in loot on any sort of legendary farm

im sure others wi ll disagree with me but thats my view on it anyway

[placid shadow]

yeah but i am solo/duo and trio maybe ( most of the time

and i'm guessing it's a 8 man raid

[echo cloud]

that doesnt change anything.. u can que up for random group in countdown and its not actually hard content

[placid shadow]

i see that's pretty cool to know

[broken brook]

how much armor should i get for a shotgun build? doing mostly heroic things

[echo cloud]

none :P

[placid shadow]

so shotguns can be good now ? ;d

i missed so much shit

[echo cloud]

imo no

[broken brook]

oh 😦

[placid shadow]

aight watching a countdown video just in case

[echo cloud]

im not aware of any shotgun builds t hat people use seriously

[broken brook]

was hoping to run like a scorpio umbra build or smth

[echo cloud]

there are some obvious shotgun builds which is heartbreaker and striker both heavily utilizing ACS.. and of course there are scorpio builds, but they are mainly support/tank oriented

and there are some hunters fury speed running shotgun builds

im not the pro player here so im just reporting what ive seen

doesnt really appear to me that shotguns are very competetive. the obvious explanation for that is their projectile spread and poor range

[broken brook]

interesting ill check out those builds

[echo cloud]

but thats a regulus build mainly

[smoky stag]

Its both

[echo cloud]

wouldnt be fair to label it a shotgun build imo

[smoky stag]

HF scorpio is also a shotgun build

[echo cloud]

its not a shotgun build just because it uses a shotgun. that would be like saying future initiative is a shotgun build cause it uses scorpio and opportunistic

[smoky stag]

errr what

[echo cloud]

its obviously not what the person was looking for when asking about shotgun builds

but the build falls apart if you dont have regulus

the key piece in the build is not the shotgun

its the chest

[smoky stag]

a shotgun build is a build centered around using the shotgun as a damage source
HF HH can be used as a shotgun build.
i myself use shotguns on it more than i use regulus

[echo cloud]

of course there is

very much so in chainkiller builds for example.

it literally does not work at all, without the key piece.. the chainkiller chest

[novel laurel]

D&H headhunter lol

[smoky stag]

it can literally be any headhunter chest

[novel laurel]

Just because most players use regulus doesn't mean it's not a shotgun build

I use a shotgun in my HFHH build because HF buffs shotgun dmg anyway

[echo cloud]

well i think its a chainkiller build, not a shotgun build. its a fair distinction to make.

[smoky stag]

it is a shotgun build coz thats what i had in mind using when i made the build

[novel laurel]

I agree with Doom, I made my HH build because I wanted to use shotguns and regulus together

[echo cloud]

i wouldnt be nitpicky about this for most other gear pieces but chainkiller demands a very unique and dare i say, unforgiving, playstyle that it must be classed as a niche build for specific playstyle that you can not stray from. because it is so unique, all builds based with it should be labeled as chainkiller build so that there can be no doubt what the build is trying to do.

when you say shotgun build, i am thinking a generic run and gun build, things with hunters fury, badger tuff, intimidate, memento and so on

[smoky stag]

i recall you didnt even want to use shottys

[novel laurel]

I love using shotguns?

[smoky stag]

hmmm my memory is bad then

[fervent jacinth]

Chainkiller with shotguns
Seems neat
For
Dz
You could pop 2 ai heads with a Liberty
And go to town with a flatline m870

[novel laurel]

I have a whole pvp build for shotguns and 3-3 different hunters fury builds

[smoky stag]

me who has a harder time aiming regulus

[novel laurel]

Chainkiller sucks in dz I think

[fervent jacinth]

Technically on paper it shouldn't
But for me chainkiller is kinda glitched
Half the time doesn't even procc on headshot

Also I've decided to try a dz build without
Fenris

Replaced the fenris mask with chill out

All mods on it were chd

So at 1.8 mil armour I'm getting 28k PvP damage with a optimist famas and 59.5 CHC with 175 - 180 something chd

[smoky stag]

no people to play with. everyone on hiatus after SJP_09 nerfed a lot of stuff

[fervent jacinth]

And this is with fox's
Only one red core which is a chest

[echo cloud]

guess this doesnt apply to console users but for pc step one is to turn division crosshair opacity to 0% and install a crosshair overlay so u dont get that big useless garbage that doesnt help in anyway. especially for pistols. i mean this emoji is literally the pistol crosshair.. 🤌
i dont know what the hell massive thinking with those things, they are not good looking and they dont help.. just give me iron sight red dot

[smoky stag]

no motivation to practice since playmates not logging on anyway

[echo cloud]

using playclaw crosshair overlay with regulus improves my aim a lot

[terse flume]

Pls help me to get eagle bearer

[echo cloud]

use raid lfg channels

[terse flume]

Ok

[echo cloud]

lmao

at this point you are just arguing against me no matter what i say for the sake of it. what is it? the way i chew cookies aggrovate you or something?

regulus crosshair is decent 😩

bro come, now 🫂

[timber hatch]

I still think if your only using shotguns and no regulus your better off going crit instead of hsd since it will always have some inconsistency keeping HH stacks with a shotgun

If you get close enough yeah, but anything past completely point blank and it's some amount of rng

[echo cloud]

"just get close enough" is far easier said than done in this game, u cant just get close for any content, quite often you get melted by doing that. i dont know what kind of content you are running with this type of build

[smoky stag]

you mean HF

[novel laurel]

Both

[smoky stag]

i highly disagree
up close is how i play 80% of the time
also, legendary

[cunning merlin]

good night everyone

[novel laurel]

5m your gun is down their throat

[timber hatch]

Meanwhile once you have stacks with the regulus you can start sniping with it

I just don't think it's wrong to say the regulus should be the main weapon of that build, and the guide doesn't say to never use only shotguns with it.

Is there somewhere you prefer using a shotgun through a mission over regulus?

[smoky stag]

i aim better with a shotgun than a regu even at pointblank
skill issue i know

[merry zinc]

cant wait for expertise to be removed from non invaded

biggest gate keep of pvp rn

[novel laurel]

Watch lvl will be interesting to see removed as well, I'm curious how it will affect pvp

[merry zinc]

yea.. hopefully doesnt make the game way slower

[placid shadow]

its been so long

yet the graphics and visuals look amazing

even for todays standarts <333

if they just fix the crashes , snowdrop is amazingly optimised engine i think

[paper phoenix]

I finally got back into the game after getting a Series S. It looks amazing but random Alfa-02 disconnects during intense firefights is pretty annoying.

[placid shadow]

on pc we get crashes xd

hey , i wish they used new york a lot too

the open world section that is

[paper phoenix]

I no-lifed the entire Micro League today. That was fun

Got maybe 100 items extracted from the Invaded DZ while there was a massive Manhunt going on a couple blocks away. Probably the most fun I've had in a DZ in a very long time

Also scored my very first kill in the DZ on a guy that tried to flag up on me during extraction

[low lily]

🫂

[echo cloud]

🫂

[gilded perch]

If watch are removed, first hazard protection build are fuckup, then crit build have worse performance, and skill build rise more

[azure lintel]

well too bad the devs are incapable of thinking that far ahead since they dont play the game 😎

then when they find out, it'll say it wasn't intended in the patch notes!!!

[smoky stag]

removing pvp altogether should fix alot of pvp problems 😄

[azure lintel]

YOOOO doom stop spitting facts... they aren't ready..

[echo cloud]

i suggested that already'

[gilded perch]

Look at that trap lmaoooo

[azure lintel]

it's been suggested for a very long time now and honestly doesn't seem like a bad idea at this point

[echo cloud]

division 3 on a new engine and fresh blood on developer balancing team.. that would make me a happy camper

[gilded perch]

I believe they ready to nerf trap pvp modified once again 🙃

[smoky stag]

if it wasnt for pvp related complaints we wouldnt lose 10F, insync, we wouldnt have this stupid shield break disorient on pve, etc

[azure lintel]

div3 on UE5!!?!?!? 🤯 🤯

[echo cloud]

ubisoft will never utilize unreal i think

[azure lintel]

nahhhh it'll be on snowdrop who am I kidding 🤣

[novel laurel]

Intimidate

[smoky stag]

ah this. although im a bit thankful coz if it wasnt for that i wouldnt have learned to HF HH

[gilded perch]

PvPers also complaine those stupid shield and intimidate change

[inner elbow]

Wait what's with the shield break disorient? Is it an added feature or something

[azure lintel]

YES! added feature!

good way to put it

[brisk bridge]

MOAR IMMERSION

[smoky stag]

YES feature! everything is a feature!
nerfs are part of your subscription

[azure lintel]

honestly removing XP from F10 was the biggest fucking feature ever

[smoky stag]

pvpers complained about shield and inti in the first place lol

[brisk bridge]

It's part of the new "git gud" quality of life changes.

[gilded perch]

Those noob don't even know how to pvp and complain all day, and devs are actually listen them and nerf those stuff

[gilded perch]

Noob are no including in my"pvpers"

[smoky stag]

my sides are in orbit

[azure lintel]

the formula is simple, you have to have to be a 2 IQ console player that makes youtube vids and the devs will listen

[inner elbow]

After all they risk losing the majority or that top % of good players

[smoky stag]

Gigachadbutcher at 9 million iq tho

@azure lintel did you see his latest "gamebreaking loot cave" video shenanigans? lol

[inner elbow]

This is why we have Leagues on Hard and Challenging difficulty

[azure lintel]

NOOOO LMAO, is it the Manning one!?!?!

because if it is.... 👀

[smoky stag]

its GWS

[novel laurel]

They should have made intimidate shield and in sync changes in only pvp

[merry zinc]

how come people havent started farming floor 50? just not worth?

[novel laurel]

90

[gilded perch]

Even you can see people say" shaple trap are too powerful", you see they don't even know that's glitch, then devs rather to nerf pvp modified but not fix bug

[smoky stag]

farm for what?

[inner elbow]

Nerfed

[smoky stag]

xp is nerfed
loot, 90 or 100 is better

that is if you cant stand countdown and its FEATURES

[azure lintel]

F10 still good for farming faction optimization mats 😎

[merry zinc]

any skill nerf is a huge W for dz tbh

[brisk bridge]

POLL: Who is the worst Div2 YouTuber?

• Running Butcher
• TuxedoBandido
• KamikazeVonDoom
• Patrick Wolf
• [insert your choice here]

[azure lintel]

YOOOOO

[smoky stag]

and solo loot for the lazy who dont wanna go back down everytime

[azure lintel]

This is actually a REALLY hard question

I've had this discussion so many times

[smoky stag]

how dare you put the GodButcher in there

[azure lintel]

Running Butcher is W top tier

[merry zinc]

wolf is the only yter on that list ive seen post decent builds before

[smoky stag]

he's my go to tuber for when im stoned

[gilded perch]

Ya and if they remove expertise, skill build is biggest winner

[novel laurel]

Running butcher is by far the worst, wolf is second due to his old sponsors

[azure lintel]

I think Tuxedo is the worst for trying to sell literal shit build guides

[merry zinc]

true tbh

[smoky stag]

you take that back!!!!

[novel laurel]

Nope

[azure lintel]

Running butcher really has me on the edge of my seat with his enthusiasm

[smoky stag]

Tuxedo and his secret club paid builds

[novel laurel]

Patrick wolf used to advertise 3rd party services where you could spend 500$ to get raid exotics

[gilded perch]

People (noob) always say remove expertise, a but they don't know it just let them more suffer

[merry zinc]

no removing expertise is still good

they arent removing in invaded dz

[novel laurel]

Removing watch lvl is dumb

[merry zinc]

which is where expertise 20 players should be anyuway

[smoky stag]

way to reward people who actually invested time

[novel laurel]

21 now btw

[merry zinc]

"invested time" aka farming floor 10 and making new characters to max expertise

[azure lintel]

remove expertise from the entire fcking game and that's the best move the devs will have done in a long time

[novel laurel]

Too late for them to go back on it now

[smoky stag]

lets make you spend time to maximize your gear output then we will disable said maximizations so that it will be balanced for all those who didnt invest in it

[merry zinc]

now that floor 10 is gone new players are fucked

[azure lintel]

I wouldnt even be mad for grinding hundreds of hours on it

if they just erased it

[gilded perch]

If speedrunner want to get better scores, they should farm expertise
It is same thing to dz pvp

[merry zinc]

the barrier of entry for pvp shouldnt be a month straight of grinding expertise levels

[azure lintel]

just another obstacle for new players

[gilded perch]

Those guy who don't care their pvp, and ask to remove expertise lmao

[novel laurel]

I agree with you, but new players need some kind of way to compete either by splitting dzs up into different scaling and usage of watch lvl and expertise

[merry zinc]

the real reason so many ppl are mad is cause they like going into non invaded dz with expertise 20 and farming noobs

but they wont say it

[novel laurel]

Every YouTuber with some shit pvp build

[azure lintel]

wait, what's the reason for people wanting to keep expertise in PvP?

[smoky stag]

they need to add more crashes features when a player enters DZ. amirite @azure lintel

[azure lintel]

im curious

[azure lintel]

YES

[merry zinc]

people just say they worked hard for it

[gilded perch]

"farming noob" that's the point, if there no expertise, noob still got farm, expertise just a excuse

[merry zinc]

yea but now noobs can farm good players cause expertise

[novel laurel]

I loved that they nerfed floor 10 to get people to play countdown and you can't even do that because it crashes 1/3 games

[azure lintel]

well if that's the case then why not remove it....

if they still get farmed

just dont remove because it's being complained about?? i dont get it

[smoky stag]

almost 30k shd level, level 21 expertise on weapons and i got farmed by a shd 500 about an hour ago because i sucked at it
so its not entirely impossible

[gilded perch]

Expertise is a excuse for those noob
Let say expertise are remove, what next is optimization, and watch

[smoky stag]

you can't even do that because of features

[merry zinc]

expertise 20 vs expertise 5

huge gap

if expertise 20 player has half a brain cell their gonna win almost every time

[azure lintel]

ahhh I see what you mean

hmmmmmm

kinda see both sides but yeah I'm still leaning towards it getting removed, watch would be dumb tho

[gilded perch]

If they actually want to be stronger in pvp, they should farm expertise in fact, those really good pvpers farm, and you don't catch up, that's your problems but not expertise