is it better to wait for a god roll eagle bearer or just optimize your first roll
#td2-general-chat
hardy wraith
azure lintel
Unfortunately I had already upgraded 2x on my old one which isn't a huge loss but still
lament mirage
What
azure lintel
Personally I would keep rerolling it until you're happy and maybe only have to optimize 1 or 2x
hardy wraith
my thing is that i dont really want to do raids but i would like a godroll eagle bearer
just dont know if it would be worth in the long run to just optimize the first roll
azure lintel
So reroll it w exotic components?
hardy wraith
oh yeah i forgot you could do that lol
jagged prism
unless you love DH that much can always run it and hope you get another drop XD
wanna know something sad
i feel like i can't be bothered to go get another king breaker XD
like right now i'm just trying to keep up with manhunt + league stuff
hardy wraith
same im trying to hit level 100 so i can get faye lau manhunt
jagged prism
you mean manhunt? league is the timed runs and think right now disrupting enemies and elite hyenas
jagged prism
i'm waiting for that claimed "one time purchase" option for the premium credits thing they mentioned in stream
hardy wraith
wym
jagged prism
during the stream they mentioned a one time purchase for their premium credits and getting some kind of outfit with it or something i think it was?
like you don't get it then, don't think they'll allow you to get any other way
azure lintel
How do I do that thing you link me on the reply with @jagged prism
And you reminded me I needa finish those challenges.. I just did the raid for the 1st time but alas no EB
young ferry
im not getting free cosmetic drops from suitcases and stuff anymore, is there a limit or something? or do i have every grey cosmetic already
rain lark
Um, why am I getting only chamelons as exotics in open world ?
I got 3 chamelons back to back in like 1 day, ( im a new player )
dim rune
I got 3 chamelons back to back in like 1 day, ( im a new player )
i got mines too in open world
oak prawn
Some exotics are locked behind raids and projects
EB and RAv are locked behind both IH and DH ridgeways pride is summit regulus is a project chatterbox you need to find parts first
Some exotics you need to find parts and craft them before they come available in thr loot pool
But EB, ravenous and regulus are raid exclusives and can't be gotten in any other activity
jagged prism
@azure lintel if you goto the message in the upper right hand corner you get 3 "..." and a arrow pointing to the left. click on the left arrow it'll include the message and mention in one when you type a message
Nemesis also has parts that's broken in weekly invasions
oak prawn
Both can drop in open world or targeted loot
rain lark
sick, so im just getting unlucky
jagged prism
Capacitor is just doing summit challenges (headshot kills, have x amount of directives on and go y floors, applying a few different status effects and what not)
oak prawn
I git my memento from a Riker named boss
jagged prism
believe some stuff has a higher chance within specific factions as well (coyotes from hyenas, BTSU black tusk medics that revive with a drone and throws red or blue emp nades
dim rune
im fairly certain ur better off by just doing countdown and setting the targeted loot to mask and backpack. if u wont get it during the countdown run, then u can buy exotic caches from ur points, and u double ur chances with it
oak prawn
Ik memento is common among open world names rikers
rain lark
Do i need a group for countdown?
oak prawn
Higher chance to drop from rikerw
jagged prism
you also get exotic caches for shd requisition weekly project, 30 summit floors, legendary mission completion
dim rune
Do i need a group for countdown?
it matches u up with people
jagged prism
feel like i'm missing something?
oak prawn
Challenging is solobale but you need a really good build
jagged prism
normal is supposed soloable, hard 2-4 casual players, challenging 8 casual players, heroic = 8 hardcore players (not the hardcore mode, just totally optimized and well greased group)
oak prawn
CD only has normal hard challenging and heroic
Only activities thta have legendary are the strongholds
smoky stag
hardcore players in countdown context just means players with common sense
dim rune
challenging countdown we usually just faceroll thru the enemies with mostly damage builds, shd ranks vary from 30 to 5k+. so far only had once an issue where half the team crashed and we were left 3 of us. still pulled it thru tho
oak prawn
And not baffoons
rain lark
Ty for the infos
smoky stag
my advice tho, never play anything less than heroic. even if it seems painful
oak prawn
Yea but if your low shd level your more likely to get kicked in heroic CD
jagged prism
heroic anything tends to drop better stat loots in general
dim rune
for cd tho there isnt that big of a reward difference for him to suffer in heroic
oak prawn
That is true
dim rune
if hes purely there for exotic, and nameds for expertise, then challenging is more than enough
smoky stag
never settle. heroic or higher
either build for it or play better
people settling for challenging is why a lot of players in this game suck
oak prawn
I mean I do heroic all the time
jagged prism
never settle. heroic or higher
either build for it or play better
people settlin...
so if i played challenging for just chilling means i suck at the game? 🤔
oak prawn
I do heroic open world all directives and missions as eell
smoky stag
so if i played challenging for just chilling means i suck at the game? 🤔
you could play heroic and still chill
dim rune
a newish player will just drag the rest down in heroic. u'd do more harm to others than urself if u cant pull ur own weight
jagged prism
but challenging things dies much faster than heroic (> <)
smoky stag
a newish player will just drag the rest down in heroic. u'd do more harm to othe...
then at the very least you find out whats wrong with you and you can improve
rain lark
This game is amazing tbh
oak prawn
God knows what he is talking about
jagged prism
God knows what he is talking about
maybe they're high?
oak prawn
The way I see it if you can't pull your own weight in heroic dont que for heroic
smoky stag
its not because im high shd
the moment i got my watch my old clan brought me to nothing but legendaries
dim rune
then at the very least you find out whats wrong with you and you can improve
if the problem is not good enough gear, u can figure about it from morning till dusk. u need to get the gear somewhere first. then u can join into difficulties where u can pull ur weight
jagged prism
oh was MiloticN7 talking about you about what he is talking about? thought he was referring to Decimate saying the game is amazing
smoky stag
theres lots of gear you can assemble for legendary even while still at 50 shd
turret drone combos. easily craftable. can farm at normal for gearsets, reroll. done.
farm your gear for better builds at heroic or higher. ez
do what you want but i will always advice for going for the highest difficulty right away
dim rune
90% of the time if they see ur low shd, they wont even go the mission with you. so unless u have a good premade group, that wont work very well
oak prawn
I mean when I started out I was doing missions that were 3 levels higher then me
jagged prism
90% of the time if they see ur low shd, they wont even go the mission with you. ...
you know i could totally see that
oak prawn
High risk high reward
jagged prism
I mean when I started out I was doing missions that were 3 levels higher then me
you're brave (^ ^)
smoky stag
90% of the time if they see ur low shd, they wont even go the mission with you. ...
i do inspect low levels.
if they have a sensible build, id continue and carry if necessary. hell im always on carry mode anyway.
but if the build is senseless, i will leave. its not the shd, but the build they have on that does it for me
jagged prism
i moved up the slow way (^ ^)
oak prawn
you're brave (^ ^)
No I was smart leveled up so fast thst way
dim rune
i remember when i had the legendary rosevelt island weekly mission, i queued up for it, people joined, wrote in chat u cant do this, and they left. so yea, put it aside, leveled up more, farmed gear, made builds, now i can pull my own weight too
oak prawn
Do stuff that is above your level you will level up faster
jagged prism
depending on the legendary and the builds it's doable in my eyes
smoky stag
Do stuff that is above your level you will level up faster
this.
never settle.
get better gearwise or playswise
jagged prism
like turret/drone build or healing build then i'm like ok we should be able to do this
then you have those with PGC and i'm like facepalm
oak prawn
this.
never settle.
get better gearwise or playswise
I mean when I git to level 40 my clan was doing heroic all directives floor 10 farming with me
smoky stag
then you have those with PGC and i'm like *facepalm*
low shds should start wit pgc and gc imho
jagged prism
low shds should start wit pgc and gc imho
oh i agree with that
smoky stag
I mean when I git to level 40 my clan was doing heroic all directives floor 10 f...
i didnt have speedfarming when i was low. there was no summit. no opti. the only way to get godrolled was playing leg strongholds. i played nothing but leg strongholds
oak prawn
i didnt have speedfarming when i was low. there was no summit. no opti. the only...
On Xbox I was the same as you
jagged prism
like in a server a guy was constantly asking for a run and gun build. i almost went chest gc or pgc and a few other random pieces, shield skill and revive hive (^ ^)
smoky stag
oh i agree with that
i mean it builds character
oak prawn
Started out same at the end I got to SHD level 15 k on my Xbox account with multiple fully optimized builds
jagged prism
then have him rage on me for giving him that build (^ ^)
dim rune
i mean i did shd 80 from tutorial in like 4 days with 0 knowledge about the game or stuff prior of me starting, and me not being able to do anything in higher difficulties wasnt a skill issue, cuz i technically went thru the story part of the game using pistols and support skills. i just wasnt doing damage, or got one shot at the higher difficulties (elite, legendary)
jagged prism
i didnt have speedfarming when i was low. there was no summit. no opti. the only...
wasn't that a pain?
oak prawn
It was but it was rewarding
smoky stag
wasn't that a pain?
it was. id wait for brandsets to be on one of the strongholds and i played that stronghold all day
oak prawn
No pain No gain is what I go by
smoky stag
that is why im good at legendaries. and why heroic is boring for me
jagged prism
which legendary was it to get the big horn again? that was a pain too XD
low lily
Best time was before targeted loot
jagged prism
was telling my clanmate imagine if we still had beserk + clutch on gloves still with the no armor regen directive shivers
missions would be a joke by that point XD
smoky stag
the easiest build to make to instantly get into higher difficulties is ofc FI. get 4 pcs. other skill damage or repair brands, voila instant contribution with either an FI healer or FI skill damage
jagged prism
never really got to play that style. by the time i saw a video on it, they released gear 2.0
so i didn't even get a chance to farm the gear the way it was
well, even then i was more into skill builds so probably wasn't much of a loss to me really
was speculating, what if Descent brings those gears back 👀
unkempt flax
Anyone know when the textiles are gonna be activated again?
oak prawn
Anyone know when the textiles are gonna be activated again?
Probably with TU 16.1
unkempt flax
TU 16.1 when’s that?
oak prawn
It will be during this season
No one knows when TU 16.1 is coming
Unless ubi already announced a date
dim rune
people guessing it to be around the apparel event 
but they just guessings based on past patterns.
jagged prism
The patch fit flr 10 as well?
either 16.1 will patch f10 or 16.2, noone knows yet
sullen mango
Which has the bigger damage output? 20% weapon damage + 15% amplified damage from spotter VS only 20% amplified damage from perfect spotter?
reef reef
tap and hold on the message you wanna reply to, tap reply
generally if the person is in the conversation you'll reply to their message without the ping, because some get annoyed by it, so you'd tap on the "@ on" to make it "@ off", some people dont care if they get pinged or not
full zinc
either 16.1 will patch f10 or 16.2, noone knows yet
Tu17 or later hopfully 🤞
If enough backlash maybe never. Not really game breaking like the damage glitch and invisibility glitch in dz right now
brisk bridge
The entire DZ needs to be invisible. 😛
smoky stag
yeah because fixing harmless F10 due to complaints from small peepee casuals that arent really affected by it is more important than fixing my level 20 upgraded famas that currently has rifle fucking damage. good decision!
full zinc
yeah because fixing harmless F10 due to complaints from small peepee casuals tha...
Give it to em'
💯 agree
verbal quarry
Which has the bigger damage output? 20% weapon damage + 15% amplified damage fro...
well that isnt hard to figure out
fickle sinew
does anyone know why some heartbreaker gear pieces can't be modified with coatings/appearances?
full zinc
Bugged
fickle sinew
:c
smoky stag
does anyone know why some heartbreaker gear pieces can't be modified with coatin...
yeah
the devs fucked up and have wrong priorities
fickle sinew
my mog tho Q_Q
full zinc
Busy bee on reported board...
"Enjoy it while it lasts" as description 🤣
gusty dove
💀😂 rip busy bee
dim rune
whats wrong with busy bee?
full zinc
And weapon damage too.
torpid plume
Ah ofcourse. Nerf more things in the game instead of fixing serious issues. These developers must be on crack.
full zinc
Yeah really good on skills but only ballistic like striker drone, assault turret and sniper turret
dim rune
but dont u have to hit with the pistol like 10 different people to get the buff?
full zinc
All weapons take buff as well. It supposed to be wd but it amplifies like flatline or glass
No 2 hits is better than putting perfect glass cannon on
20% per mark currently
dim rune
so if u hit 10 people, its 200% ?
full zinc
Yeah. My afk on 10 stacks makes turret hit like 700k+ range . Solo . Probably better with team buffs
But getting like 4-5 stacks pretty easy when hiting a group spawning. You're have to hold back buff to see 10 stacks regular
dim rune
so after u shot some people, all u gotta do is just switch to primary or secondary weapon, and wait till 10 seconds pass, then do it again?
full zinc
Yeah. I use harmony so I use that time to proc in sync
Then a few tags , then back again. Lends itself nice to using combined arms
dim rune
u better get a double coffee thats long and soaked in sugar with a build like that xD
full zinc
Its pretty natural to use. And its afk so you can just hold buff for a little bit if you know heavy is coming. And melt them
gilded perch
If enough backlash maybe never. Not really game breaking like the damage glitch ...
Devs "were" fixed those glitch
Meanwhile every update they just copy last few patch, tunes something then online, that's why those glitch,bugs fixed and live again
fickle sinew
yo how does one get maxed out armor mods?
i want 6.0% crit chance mods but can't seem to find any over like 5.4%
gusty dove
I've gotten some to drop in countdown or summit but it's rare, think you'd have better luck with legendary summit?
mental bison
Is it iven worth using those high mag lmgs like stoner ?
gusty dove
err optimize
no
full zinc
Devs "were" fixed those glitch
Meanwhile every update they just copy last few pa...
Yeah it's really crappy. Stuff they cant seem to keep fixed is not even on the board, yet they target certain things that have no negatives and anyone can benefit from, if they choose.
azure lintel
Howdy
fair lake
Yeah it's really crappy. Stuff they cant seem to keep fixed is not even on the b...
Fixing stuff takes months (DZ targeted loot, broken commendation, crashes etc.), but closing fun stuff is top priority.
Fun fact - if not players, devs wouldn't find that summit floor 10 and 100 benefits so much, because they never launch their own game to test anything. That's a fact
rich shadow
They have a small team, that are trying to learn the Div2 code as they go. Its a tough job but the longer they do it the better they'll get.
We just have to be patient
low lily
@fair lake Yeah but people get levels and loot fast like that, that's priority, us getting fu#ed by invisible players in dz more than a month at this point, that's all good
mighty wedge
i have a question. does sledgehammer buff apply for teammates shooting the target aswell, or just my self?
rich shadow
Applies to team mates too
mighty wedge
im trying to look for a full on support build
tender wave
I think when stuff is a really easy fix they'll just do it straight away, even if it's not super important. Other stuff takes time because figuring how to fix it is difficult
elfin hazel
invisible players while not on the trello I can guarantee you that its a higher priority than floor 10 which is only medium priority
oak prawn
I hate getting shot by ghosts in the DZ
elfin hazel
don't get why people act like floor 10 being fixed is the sole thing they're focused on because they want the game to die or some other insane reason
tender wave
Also, I've been loving the Bee on my ND build but it's definitely OP so I really don't blame them for fixing it before people get too used to it (or dependent on it)
oak prawn
Fixing pc crashes entirely should be a top priority I think it already is
elfin hazel
because it is
full zinc
Yeah. Bee is on the board now
elfin hazel
theres never going to be a cure all fix for them and almost every patch we've had since S9 dropped has had some fix for some crash
gusty dove
invisible players while not on the trello I can guarantee you that its a higher ...
would be hilarious if the invis glitch is low priority or they aren't gonna fix it soon
oak prawn
Tbh I really don't pvp so the invisible glitch domt bother me
gusty dove
idk what to do in lz so I check dz here and there
tender wave
I think that's part of the problem with floor 10, it was left so long that people have started to feel entitled to really fast leveling, like they couldn't have fun without it
oak prawn
But I've seen it and apparently people who are getting caught are ratting out other people 😂😂
elfin hazel
I think that's part of the problem with floor 10, it was left so long that peopl...
pretty much yeah considering one of the main arguments I've seen against it being patched is that F10 is the only reason the game is still alive
oak prawn
I think that's part of the problem with floor 10, it was left so long that peopl...
Open world works just as good idm why people are dependent on summit
full zinc
F10 obv isnt their sole focus but will impact a large amount of players negatively. Huge costs of expertise and all.
Invisible and damage glitch should be as priority as pc crashes as it impacts all 3 platforms.
But textiles are critical
🤔
oak prawn
Textiles can wait imo.
elfin hazel
textiles are critical because otherwise it'd force people to pay
oak prawn
Wait there's a damage glitch I only heard of the invisible glitch
tender wave
I do think it's mindlessly repetitive enough to be a bit addictive to some people too, just doing the same thing over and over and watching your numbers get bigger
elfin hazel
which could (while unlikely) possibly lead to legal trouble
oak prawn
Top priorities imo busy bee pc crashes the glitches and textiles
full zinc
I agree wih shutting textiles.
Dont get me wrong
oak prawn
They might also remove expertise from non invaded DZs as well
gusty dove
iirc damage glitch also impacts dz unless that is fixed?
elfin hazel
there was an invis glitch before
oak prawn
Something to do with a ladder and the jammer pulse
oak prawn
Kinda scary to know ghosts are in the DZ now 😂
full zinc
Your demons coming real 🤣
gusty dove
surprisingly haven't came across those ghosts in EU unless DZ is targeted across instead of just EU?
oak prawn
I'm going ti be checking my back from now on
Are the invs players immune ti pulse? Assuming they ain't running a pulse immune build
full zinc
There been video reports showing players getting destroyed while nothing appears.
oak prawn
Ghosts are real 😳
gusty dove
There been video reports showing players getting destroyed while nothing appears...
twitter been blowing up the most
full zinc
But the point is they are limited resources. And I get they want to put out a bunch of content . But when focusing on issues just take highest priority and run it through. If they prioritize the little crap over crashes that's kind of a big deal. And will likely lose a lot of the pc player base... especially if it makes it to tu17 and pvp fixes
oak prawn
I'd say focus on the issue board first then content
oak prawn
But the point is they are limited resources. And I get they want to put out a bu...
I agree
elfin hazel
you'd just be paying the artists/design/narrative parts of the team to sit around and do nothing so that'll never happen
low lily
Also there is difference between content and content, at this point a season what we get after like every 4 month and so is about 1-2 days of new content. The idea of a season is good, but if you do exactly same things every season, it gets boring fast
lofty bone
just stumbled upon a bunch of christmas deco at the museum of art. how have i never noticed this before
elfin hazel
I think with season targets getting a smaller list of things to do there has to be more stuff added to the seasons that aren't just same GE & 2 apparel events but with the small team I don't think that'll happen soon
full zinc
Garbage in is garbage out. The new stuff being introduced is super bugged atm. Half our answers here are
"Its bugged, patch incoming
🤞 "
Focusing on the core issues will ultimately help future content
oak prawn
Isn't there a new team working on TD2
elfin hazel
the team has a lot of new people yes
they've had to call in some people from the old team to help with some code
full zinc
Design team can still work on future stuff. I would much rather have a delay to a season and a fixed smooth running game for pc
tender wave
The coding base must be pretty horrendous to work with, given some of the bugs that appear
elfin hazel
I mean from my understanding the engine is struggling to handle all the assets at this point in time
full zinc
No doubt
mighty wedge
will capacitor benefit from more than 6 yellow cores? can u go over to as much as 8?
from technician +1 and bracus
mighty wedge
ok
rich shadow
Also, I've been loving the Bee on my ND build but it's definitely OP so I really...
I wonder if they'll fix the Amp damage part, or just disable it for skills?
next silo
Anyone know how long is the downtime for the server restart
oak prawn
Wait severs are down now ?
next silo
Server restart in 3mins
oak prawn
Why were they restarting
mighty wedge
busy little bee would be funny on a chainkiller build, no?
mighty wedge
huh? how ?
full zinc
Its amp atm and boosts ballistic skills like turrets
mighty wedge
ND = ?
rich shadow
busy little bee would be funny on a chainkiller build, no?
Not really since the bonus only works when you swap from the BLB
oak prawn
Mark targets. Upon weapon switch each mark gives 20% amp
local they made a typo in the shd paragon event
its shd paragon ever
mighty wedge
Mark targets. Upon weapon switch each mark gives 20% amp
yes, i understand that but i dont see what has negotiator got anything to do with it?
full zinc
You amp weapon damage.
mighty wedge
you mark all targets,s swap weapon and have drones go nuts?
full zinc
And drone damage is a side effect not intended
mighty wedge
so.. 200% skill damage to drones
full zinc
So your weapon can see 200% amp @ 10 marks
2 Marks are better that perfect glass cannon for either ballistic skills or weapons atm
full zinc
local they made a typo in the shd paragon event
Judging by how much I f up text I probably whote the text for it 🍻
oak prawn
Judging by how much I f up text I probably whote the text for it 🍻
you had 1 job tsk tsk
full zinc
Alyaws jmbulnig tihngs. To the point auto correct does it for me 😅
oak prawn
r/engrish
mighty wedge
when are they patching the bee?
elfin hazel
no idea
full zinc
It just made it to the issues board. No clue. Description "enjoy it while it lasts"
elfin hazel
doubt it'll be 16.1 since its still only in reported
tender wave
I wonder if they'll fix the Amp damage part, or just disable it for skills?
Even if they drop it right down to regular additive weapon damage it'll still be a strong choice for some builds (especially ones that aren't all red cores)
mighty wedge
seems insanely OP
tender wave
Right now it's just hilarious when you have a bunch of enemies in the open, takes very little time build stacks and then just go to town on the enemies
I was hitting over 2mill damage per shot with a police m4 on my ND build yesterday
Trig and his crew did not last long
tropic compass
Good thing about this game is I don't need ps plus to load the game and playing by myself
rich shadow
Right now it's just hilarious when you have a bunch of enemies in the open, take...
did a similar thing in open world... 🙂 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwmRFxG5-qg
crystal copper
gusty dove
sig mpx ye
low flame
Yeah it’s good. Decent base damage and rpm, as well as decent burst dps. Best time to empty, where it falls is the damage per mag
bitter wraith
If i were to die many times, is it possible to fall below 50?
gusty dove
unplayable how?
gentle shore
less 15%dmg on ar
gusty dove
If i were to die many times, is it possible to fall below 50?
yeah, but youll keep it unlocked if you have gotten to 50
gusty dove
less 15%dmg on ar
guess keep an eye on #news-and-announcements and #division-tweets
bitter wraith
yeah, but youll keep it unlocked if you have gotten to 50
Ohh ok so it doesnt matter if i die now tyy
rain lark
What does TU mean ?
azure lintel
title update
rain lark
Thx
tender wave
'Big patch'
bitter wraith
Im fucking done with the dz. Never playing solo again
mighty wedge
division darkzone is the most toxic gameplay ever
stoic mulch
I tried forever to get a merciless. Quit until it's not meta, then come back and get one
desert crystal
don’t exotics drop in open world now
dark matrix
so are the Zoo mortars bugged or what was the word
the missions was really fun as always tbh
but I recall the mortars were less significant
dark matrix
don’t exotics drop in open world now
they do
desert crystal
why are people still trying to get then from the dz then
gusty dove
dz has higher drop rate
dark matrix
I've been getting 1 or 2 exotics daily so far in missions and open world
desert crystal
did they not make the open world drop rate the same then
dark matrix
not sure, but haven't been in DZ enough yet to tell
desert crystal
? is a mission you walk into from open world still class as open world
gusty dove
so far i've gotten often the pestilence in dz, no other yet.. not sure if that's the only dropping/being able to get there
low lily
There can be others with targeted loot, example AR, but targeted loot is broken
mighty wedge
what do you think guys, in regards to a group support focused build.. in pair with sledgehammer shotgun.. opportunistic backpack or acosta bag?
low lily
Opportunistic i think, and maybe be TP with Tardigrade
mighty wedge
tp?
gusty dove
There can be others with targeted loot, example AR, but targeted loot is broken
true but opening chests i've found often to be a pestilence there
low lily
Tardigrade is good safe net, also TP gives good buff. True Patriot
mighty wedge
im going with ongoing directive
low lily
Yeah you can run it too, but don't you need kills with it, so others get buff?
mighty wedge
sledgehammer will be hard to use consistently without acosta, but opportunistic is really nice
desert crystal
maybe be they should allow up to 8 player groups in the summit
mighty wedge
underground was decent, and the survival mode.. dunno why they dont have it on d2
the battleroyale thingie at winter, i liked it
dark matrix
gameplay wise it works, but Underground just looked amazing imo
desert crystal
Isnt countdown and summit based of the same thing
dark matrix
Summit still looks unfinished
elfin hazel
because div2 is its own game and doesnt need to be a carbon copy of div1 and its game modes
mighty wedge
i can write u a book about things that are wrong with the summit
gusty dove
what's even the summit based on, or just nothing?
elfin hazel
nothing
dark matrix
well arguably Descent if it's like how I assume it will be will have a similar premise at its core as Survival, go in with no owned equipment
desert crystal
so theres not a real life version of it then
dark matrix
what's even the summit based on, or just nothing?
it's basically Underground
or what do you mean
elfin hazel
no its just a building left under construction
gusty dove
fair enough
elfin hazel
good to know discord automod hates the proper word for the building because of 4 letters
mighty wedge
summit is a lazy unskilled developer copy paste diablo 3 rifts
desert crystal
how dose it need constructing
elfin hazel
floors are left bare with rebar showing in the ground & walls
dark matrix
automods tend to be annoying
low lily
floors are left bare with rebar showing in the ground & walls
In some eastern eu countries it still counts as finished..
desert crystal
you mean the rooms that look like a construction site
elfin hazel
yes
mighty wedge
btw, u are sure that i need to kill the enemy for ongoing directive to give ammo?
its not as long as it dies?
dark matrix
problem is that even rooms that should be finished look like a construction site lol
and there's no unique floors or anything
Underground had some rare and unique tiles you could see
elfin hazel
welcome to procgen
dark matrix
I do appreciate the effort and what they tried to do though, after all no money was asked but yeah
low lily
I mean i love underground so much more than summit, but wasn't there like 3-4 unique rooms only? Like that vault, nightclub etc?
dark matrix
just wish it was so much more complex
low lily
Everything else was just copy paste
dark matrix
mostly yeah but they felt like they had a lot more detail in em
elfin hazel
pretty sure underground was a small set of procgen rooms too
dark matrix
it was a nice "surprise" from time to time
UG actually felt like being in the sewers and metro stations though
fervent oak
When hunting the 12 masks do all of them need to be activated during night or only a few?
elfin hazel
only some have set times
fervent oak
okay ty
dark matrix
why did my message get deleted
elfin hazel
automod
dark matrix
who programmed the automod
elfin hazel
discord
dark matrix
to be expected then
gusty dove
automod doesnt like ky s
dark matrix
but what I meant to say is that Summit looks a bit off
weird floors, weird door placement
UG sort of made sense, looked lived in, sewer tunnels, metro stations etc.
desert crystal
Yes some of the doors dont fit
wet gate
I see a lot of people useing one piece of green gear is there a reason a bug maybe
elfin hazel
happens with procgen sometimes when you have a small set of assets and an even smaller set of connecting assets
wet gate
ahh ya thats a good idea lol smack
desert crystal
do you have to chage gear to level your expertise up
low lily
I think they should've done that rooms aren't randomly generated, then we couldve gotten something interesting
dark matrix
yeah I get that but still, wish they looked just a bit better, use procgen but some human input too to smooth things out
as it stands it feels like I am playing some horror game and I am stuck in some otherwordly tower
with rooms that go nowhere and who knows what else in the shadows
then some door you can tell is not properly placed and you can look behind and see some void
desert crystal
You mean the doors in the small loot rooms
dark matrix
yeah there's a bunch of em
Countdown did it well though I'd say
the level itself looks good and it has a nice backdrop too
elfin hazel
personally while it does suck that there isnt more assets it doesn't bother me much aside from the doors that get you stuck
dark matrix
yeah I can overlook it, it just looks off in contrast to the rest of the game where there's so much amazing detail
low lily
Yea
elfin hazel
countdown has leagues better presentation than summit and I kinda wish they make a raid in some place like that
dark matrix
even steets on the DC or NY map that go nowhere really tend to have a lot of details
on that note sometimes I do wonder if maybe they didn't intend to make a raid at Pentco instead of CD
desert crystal
you dont think back in the development stage count down was going to be a raid do you
dark matrix
it also has details like Kelso talking you through each objective and the faction intros
I don't know, just a thought
elfin hazel
with the layout of countdown I highly doubt it
dark hours & iron horse are very linear
dark matrix
they could'be probably sealed off certain turns to put you in a straight path
and provide raid-like objectives in each section
most likely it was made just for CD though
but it's still quite a good looking map and an achievement for the new team
I hope Descent looks just as good
elfin hazel
honestly I'd say its next to iron horse in presentation
desert crystal
dose the reactor room give you a feel like it was ment to be a raid with how many things you habe to do
dark matrix
dose the reactor room give you a feel like it was ment to be a raid with how man...
every part of it, the map looks very detailed
elfin hazel
a lot of the power plant feels like the furnace room in iron horse which I'd say is high praise
desert crystal
like its ment to be part of that then got separated
dark matrix
and the backdrop as I said looks good like in the outside parts of IH
and well, seeing the monument from IH never fails to impress during Morozova
desert crystal
you dont thing IH and count down are on the same map do you
elfin hazel
not at all
dark matrix
no
trim swallow
guys how do I get a gear piece with perfectly unbreakable?
I just did floor 100 and it didnt drop
tender wave
guys how do I get a gear piece with perfectly unbreakable?
try countdown - lots of named items from the hunters there (plus loads of other loot drops). Target Badger Tuff to maximise chances. Probably stick to Challenging difficulty btw, heroic sounds like it's not worth the pain.
trim swallow
try countdown - lots of named items from the hunters there (plus loads of other ...
Thank u!
tender wave
nope
trim swallow
I will try countdown then
pliant sentinel
only thing guaranteed in this game is crashes and grind
trim swallow
🤣
mental otter
Hey all, anyone with a floor 60 on summon or around that, there can give it to me ? 🙂
oak turtle
hey guys, new exotic Busy Bee and bloody knuckle can drop in open world or summit?
after we got it from season track?
just want to confirm
gusty dove
pretty sure they dont drop yet?
tender wave
i got my busy bee from countdown
did it actually drop on the floor? May have just been rewarded because you hit level 85 on the season track
dim rune
did it actually drop on the floor? May have just been rewarded because you hit ...
that i dont really know tbh 😅 i usually dont look what i pick up in the heat of the battle
tender wave
noone else has reported getting a Bee drop other than the one from the season pass, and some people have been specifically farming quite a lot for it, so current theory is that it actually WON'T drop until they release the blueprint for it
timber hatch
that i dont really know tbh 😅 i usually dont look what i pick up in the heat of...
Do you have two of them?
dim rune
Do you have two of them?
just one
timber hatch
And your season level is above 85?
dim rune
no idea tbh, i wasnt purposedly leveling it, nor checking it. been playing for like 4 days 😅
will be 5 today
sacred kindle
is it me or double barrel shotguns (primary and secondary) are clunky ?
sometimes there's a sort of delay after reload I cannot shoot, sometimes it doesn't reload the two shot, idk, feels unreliable
timber hatch
They are among the worst weapons in the game
civic socket
I’ve never seen anyone use double barrel shotguns
actually, scratch that, i saw someone the other day using it in the DZ, but he fired once at me and missed and switched weapons.
sacred kindle
well, I play the firewall spec, the secondary weapon have a nice perk, but it's a double barrel, I'm sad to not use it
timber hatch
The specialist sidearms were never properly scaled to level 40, so they are incredibly weak to use as well.
fallow geyser
molten spire
well they do scale to 40, it's that at best their main attributes are like a 75% roll
snow forge
who is killing people in dz east
snow forge
can somebody help
molten spire
since it probably would defeat the point of grinding/farming if they gave you a double godroll sidearm right off the bat
snow forge
someone got reward tier 3 here
dapper jewel
😭
when will ubi will fix this constant crashing? I'm tired verifying files every time i play
brisk bridge
[in the voice of KD Lang] Constantttt crashing has always been...
sacred kindle
I didn't crash in a week 😄
glad salmon
If I wasn’t around for catharsis mask season reward how do I get it now. Is it in the world drop pool for me?
sacred kindle
jesus there's a guy lvl 56'025, how long did he play lmao.
smoky stag
yeah you cant put sledgehammer on a pistol apparently
hybrid ore
i guarantee u they are exploiters
Nah, just f10 farming.
There's someone at what, over 300k?
mighty wedge
how does that work, floor 10 farming?
mossy arch
i guarantee u they are exploiters
man, even if it's easy and fast I can't believe someone did 50k+ repeats ><
timber hatch
yeah you cant put sledgehammer on a pistol apparently
Recaling it is just bugged, but you can get it on pistols.
trim swallow
Guys what is the best way to neutralize 2 hunters and 2 rogue Agents?
mossy arch
Guys what is the best way to neutralize 2 hunters and 2 rogue Agents?
Summit lvl 100 for hunters
any Summit lvl, Heroic+ lot directives for agents (chance)
smoky stag
Recaling it is just bugged, but you can get it on pistols.
yeah i extracted one and was excited to put it on but couldnt
trim swallow
Summit lvl 100 for hunters
any Summit lvl, Heroic+ lot directives for agents (c...
lvl 100 summit is the only way for hunters?
mossy arch
lvl 100 summit is the only way for hunters?
guaranteed - yes
trim swallow
and what other ways are there? Because I am lvl 1 of the summit again
tender wave
if you haven't done the mask hunters yet, you could do a couple of those. Schaeffer manhunt mission also has one if you've unlocked it through the current or previous season pass
ooh, 16.1 tomorrow (and apparel event delay, definitely noone suspected that might happen!)
scenic wraith
AND I CRASHED AGAIN!!!
In the middle of a agent battle on legendary
GOD DAMNIT!!!
gusty dove
apparel delay amazing
scenic wraith
😭
scenic wraith
gentle shore
Still don’t have any info for tu16.1
scenic wraith
<a:parrot:535156113784569876>
CLEAVAGE!!!
elfin hazel
check the fixed ready tab on the trello pinned in #unofficial-troubleshooting
gentle shore
Great
scenic wraith
😆
gentle shore
Finally some good news
elfin hazel
So we got 16.1 tmr?
yes or as they're calling it season 10 patch 1
oak turtle
pretty sure they dont drop yet?
I just got Bloody knuckles from summit tough drop for mw
gentle shore
Maybe this time apparel event delay will longer than last time
oak turtle
Is any way can put pitcure here to show proof?
brazen mountain
Is any way can put pitcure here to show proof?
You can dm or you can use imgur
brazen mountain
You can dm or you can use imgur
And send a link to the picture
elfin hazel
trello board says clipping issues
brazen mountain
There ya go
oak turtle
sorry i forgot to screenshot while it drop
brazen mountain
Ngl bloody knuckle looks real good
oak turtle
so it actually possible it can drop at open world after we already get it from season track?
rain tree
hi guys can i ask sth
lime fulcrum
AND I CRASHED AGAIN!!!
first time buddy?! 😛 😄
oak turtle
i heard somewhere this season track exotic will not drop on open world untl next season?🤔
rain tree
where is the one-time-trade that offers 3000premium points with a hunter mask
gusty dove
😂
scenic wraith
first time buddy?! 😛 😄
Wait you crashed for the first time?
brazen mountain
where is the one-time-trade that offers 3000premium points with a hunter mask
The stinger hunter set
dim rune
i have yet to crash lol xD
brazen mountain
It will come in season 12
rain tree
nope
elfin hazel
the stinger set isnt coming with premium credits
rain tree
i mean you buy 3000premium with real money
elfin hazel
theres another set thats not out yet coming this season that gives premium credits
lime fulcrum
Wait you crashed for the first time?
with first time sentence i said
i meant it is pure normal to crash in this game dont get shock with crash 😄
brazen mountain
You’ll be able to buy the set in season 12 which will take a while
scenic wraith
with first time sentence i said
i meant it is pure normal to crash in this gam...
Its annoying
dim rune
how on earth are u guys crashing
scenic wraith
rain tree
nah i just want to buy season pass
scenic wraith
how on earth are u guys crashing
Im crashing all the time
tropic compass
Apparel event delayed again. What's in them that causes issues??
rain tree
but once i hop into store
brazen mountain
nah i just want to buy season pass
You asked a question about a outfit to buy the season pass?
dim rune
does ur pc meet the minimum system requirements? 😅
rain tree
that offer was gone
brazen mountain
Weird but ok
oak turtle
Apparel event delayed again. What's in them that causes issues??
oh no delayed again?
lime fulcrum
Its annoying
i feel ya...............
oak turtle
anyway
elfin hazel
trello board says clipping issues
.
oak turtle
the sky is blue
rain tree
i mean the 3000 p offer
brazen mountain
the sky is blue
I though it was purple
rain tree
i need premium to buy seson pass
oak turtle
I though it was purple
sorry,still in story mode
gentle shore
It is the stinger hunter set
Aren’t that from friend referral program?
brazen mountain
i need premium to buy seson pass
Well idk where it went tho maybe they removed it temporarily
brazen mountain
Aren’t that from friend referral program?
Yep
tropic compass
oh no delayed again?
Saying apparel event on its own suggests itll be delayed
brazen mountain
Technically the rarest set in the game
tropic compass
So apparel event tomorrow?
rain tree
yeah thatswhat im talking about
rain tree
i feel really sad to found that it was gone
brazen mountain
So they are taking things from before to sell it?
They are doing that because it’s hella rare
rain tree
just before i was about to buy it
brazen mountain
just before i was about to buy it
premium creds?
brazen mountain
Oh it was on sale
gusty dove
server restart in 3 hours lol
lone valve
Ofc the apparel event was delayed
Time to not touch the game till it starts
dreamy topaz
Great... apparel event getting delayed...again!
winter relic
I mean.. Are you surprised though?
dreamy topaz
Nope, I've predicted it
They should also fix the backpack part on the Honor Guard Shirt and DCPD vest
winter relic
I really think that they want people to move to other games at this point. I don't see how they can have so many problems without it being planned out this way.
winter relic
Yeah, me too
dreamy topaz
I hope the event isnt gonna get delayed for several weeks like the Pentco Fairview one did
winter relic
I try not to hope for anything related to this game anymore
Too much disappointment lately
I just hope they get a more competent and qualified team to work on the next game..
low lily
Okey it seems they still haven't banned invisible clitch users, same guys over a month, people have reported, sent them videos and they still sit there and do nothing?
vale blaze
Is the Fairview crew apparel only premium or textiles too?
winter relic
I have video of ppl using signature weapons in the DZ and they aren't banned
heavy ocean
Is the Fairview crew apparel only premium or textiles too?
textiles too but for now are disabled
vale blaze
Hmm guess I'll wait.
winter relic
They seem to care about floor 10 (which brought the community together) more then actual game breaking things like the textiles and PvP glitches.
low lily
I still don't understand how one company can be so incompetent
vale blaze
Is there an full orange gear dye?
winter relic
I still don't understand how one company can be so incompetent
Facts
vale blaze
Huge game. 100 bugs fixed oops 1000 more bugs
winter relic
I got to 20 expertise and got so much gesr and guns and skills to 20 for them to drop me to 19 this last update with no compensation of exotic components
But hey, "we plan to fix floor 10, we didn't intend for you to actually play summit"
elfin hazel
They seem to care about floor 10 (which brought the community together) more the...
yeah thats why floor 10 is medium priority and textiles are critical
limpid kindle
Do you think that the new apparel event will be on the next week?
elfin hazel
I still don't understand how one company can be so incompetent
welcome to having a much smaller team with people new to an engine starting to buckle under the load the game is throwing at it
winter relic
Oh oops sorry dude.. Textiles are critical, they want to get there primium currency back.. True true
But what about the things that we've been begging for
limpid kindle
Because tomorrow will be global event and I don’t think that the next apparel will appears along with the global event
silent nymph
man i really hope that one day we can get the california girls dance into the division 2 as a emote that we can do
winter relic
Like invisibility, special ammo etc
heavy ocean
Yeah, i can't still understand how they can add to the game a broken gun (like kingbreaker or still not fixed extend mag in CMMG Banshee)
low lily
All dz side things are low priority
elfin hazel
apparel event sometime later soon probably not next week but hopefully
vale blaze
Or broken gun skins. Doesn't work on Carbine 7, Mk16 or ACR. Lmao
What's wrong with kingbreaker? I've been using it
elfin hazel
its magazine floats ever so slightly
heavy ocean
or laser in side of the gun
elfin hazel
something you'd never actually look at during gameplay
elfin hazel
yes
winter relic
Didn't they know about AR's having rifle damage since phase 1 of the PTS though.
Didn't fix it for phase 2
Then pushed it live, knowing the issue?
limber orchid
Is it true they are gonna patched Floor 10 method tomorrow? I hope not
elfin hazel
no thats later
low lily
Never know some xp stuff have gotten stealth nerfs before
I would laugh so hard if they would do that tho
elfin hazel
floor 10 counts as a loot cave so of course it was going to be patched
past xp farms have been patched out too
heavy ocean
They gonna do that but fix is not ready
winter relic
But they knew about floor 10 since they released summit.. They all of a sudden want to fix it now that more then just a select few (who've already abused it like crazy) know about it
dusk sable
Sounds like they don't know how to prioritize the real problems instead of "fixing" floor 10
limber orchid
Thanks to the guy who went to forum and cried about Floor 10. Now the devs know about it
elfin hazel
floor 10 is not a high priority
dusk sable
It's fucking PVE game
elfin hazel
it is a medium priority there are more things they're focused on than floor 10
low lily
It's fucking PVE game
Can't fully agree with that, but if you only pve good for you
elfin hazel
It's fucking PVE game
its a loot cave in a looter shooter its going to be patched out eventually
limber orchid
But they knew about floor 10 since they released summit.. They all of a sudden w...
Because people keep making threads on forum and crying about it. I just don’t understand what’s their problem is. People got too much times on their hands
elfin hazel
why would the devs keep it in it completely negates the whole point of expertise
you don't just add something and keep something that might as well be a button that says skip entire thing we just added
dusk sable
Then they might as well get rid of making a second character for the extra points too
elfin hazel
thats not even close
elfin hazel
theres a solid reason why you get points from a new character
that reason becomes unstable once you add a super fast xp farm
elfin hazel
they need to stop listening to people who only play 1 hour a day
their voice matters too
smoky stag
their voice matters too
their voices are full of shit
elfin hazel
not everyone is able to play for a long period of time each day
dusk sable
And what reason is that per say?
elfin hazel
people have work people have families people have to travel
smoky stag
not everyone is able to play for a long period of time each day
looks like they could benefit from a lot of XP in a short amount of time then eh?
dusk sable
No for the new character
elfin hazel
do you want to be 1000+ levels on your main and then have to grind to get to that point no not really
so you get those points added to your watch again
once you add something that throws the xp to hours played ratio off as much as floor10 or even convoys it starts to make that more unstable
elfin hazel
exactly and xp farms like floor 10 sidesteps that pretty hard in the case of expertise
dusk sable
Then you're telling me we don't need that character skip for new characters
winter relic
OK so.. If you got to 20 and grinded for components for 100's for hours to get guns and gear and skills to 20 (10 components every time you go from 19 to 20) to sign in and everything be at 19 but you have no components...
Where do those people stand?
Pretty discouraged from playing the game IMO
With or without a "loot cave" how long do you think it will take to get 300+ exotic components?
Some people are pretty upset.. Feel wronged in a lot of ways by this
lone valve
I really think that they want people to move to other games at this point. I don...
Worries me in what state the new game mode will release 😂 😂 😂
elfin hazel
it'd take a long time to get all those exotic components and thats the whole point of the system
lone valve
Given their track record
elfin hazel
to keep players grinding and playing the game
winter relic
So they delete your hard work so you can do it again?
mighty wedge
so.. thoughts on bloody knuckles ? seem useless to me
winter relic
it'd take a long time to get all those exotic components and thats the whole poi...
What should they do for the people who lost all that?
elfin hazel
this is a wall of an argument at this point I'm done here neither of us are going to change our positions
dusk sable
I mean you invalidated your point soo....
winter relic
My position is the devs are doing a terrible job as of right now. If they want to get rid of floor 10 cool. Just make things right with players before working on other things
dusk sable
so.. thoughts on bloody knuckles ? seem useless to me
It's not very useful at high difficulty levels
mighty wedge
yea thats what i think
dusk sable
Which is fairly normal from them
mighty wedge
youtubers be like "insane! game changer!"
what it really is -> a turd
dusk sable
If they make something that'll go into meta they nerf it for sure
Just look at insync and shield
warm minnow
wait what happened to insync?
winter relic
Lol that's not an argument.. Not when even a child knows, when you wrong someone, you fix it, or expect them to wrong you back. The way ppl fight back is to find way to "fix" the game in their favor
dusk sable
wait what happened to insync?
It used to be that you could use insync and a shield then it would boost your gun dmg. So people would load up their ars and rifles with the talent and get insane dmg
Now the talent doesn't work with shields anymore and shields confuse you upon breaking
warm minnow
isn't that good for pvp tho?
smoky stag
then it should have stayed in PVP
dusk sable
Lol pvp has all sorts of problems it seems like
elfin hazel
isn't that good for pvp tho?
yes because less shield peaking from someone you cant hit was the reasoning
dusk sable
Cheaters is the foremost
I honestly don't even see the shield thing as a problem considering I walked into the pvp zone and died randomly from a cheater
elfin hazel
just because one problem exists doesnt mean others suddenly arent a problem
elfin hazel
It used to be that you could use insync and a shield then it would boost your gu...
also those last 2 words are your key as to why it got nerfed
gusty dove
don't think I spent enough time in the dz to come across someone that's invis, but the times I'm there I don't see those
elfin hazel
cant have 1 thing dominate over all others thats not a meta thats imbalance
tender wave
don't think I spent enough time in the dz to come across someone that's invis, b...
but how would you know if you did?
elfin hazel
evidentially not because of the nerf
metas having something be better than others is fine but having 1 sole option being better than all the others by a long shot is not a meta
gusty dove
but *how would you know if you did?*
I've been downed by someone going rogue there before, seen clips of some invis dude killing them so I'd think I can separate those
dusk sable
That's exactly what a meta is
tender wave
maybe the invisible players are just leaving you alone
dusk sable
Nothing can be balanced to be equal so there is always the one option that is better than the other
gusty dove
maybe the invisible players are just leaving you alone
😅 touché
tender wave
or maybe they're actually watching over you, killing rogues before you even realise they're there
roleplaying guardian angels
elfin hazel
so lets take this to the extremes say theres one gun that does 5x-15x the damage of all the others in the game despite functioning the same as all the others is that a meta no thats an imbalance in the game design
dusk sable
Lol so mad, but ok. That extreme won't ever work in any situation because no gun will ever get to that point and yes that would still be a meta cuz people are favoring that gun over any other.
mighty wedge
what gives more flat damage for myself of opportunistic and vigilance.. 10% amp vs 25% add
also i guess opportunist doesnt make sense on sniper build since im aiming to oneshot anyway
warm minnow
vig
dusk sable
You need to play LOL or some other competetive game, where they regularly constantly put out patches to plug up their "imbalanced" champions that are in the meta
warm minnow
opportunist is more of a group thing.
mighty wedge
right
brazen mountain
Ok what’s going on now?
mighty wedge
i forgot how to hunt old bounty manhunt.. theres some i havent unlocked. like the achilles pulse. how do i get it?
brazen mountain
I come back after a hour and it seems there a argument rn
dusk sable
Some lady arguing that a imbalanced gun isn't meta even if a majority of game population is using it.
elfin hazel
i forgot how to hunt old bounty manhunt.. theres some i havent unlocked. like th...
if you've unlocked faye lau in the track then go to camp white oak and change the mission type like you would for invaded missions
its still a "meta" but its a very bad one at that and should be avoided
and balanced out
brazen mountain
Some lady arguing that a imbalanced gun isn't meta even if a majority of game po...
Well sure it’s “meta” but it’s not even balanced
elfin hazel
you shouldn't be able to get way more damage than everything else while also being super hard to hit with no real downside
sure its a meta but its one that must be balanced out due to how terrible it is
brazen mountain
I doubt that a meta gun that’s broken is good for people that pvp
Because it’s a gun that need balancing
modest lintel
what's meta gun?
dusk sable
what's meta gun?
We're just having an argument
elfin hazel
you shouldn't be able to get way more damage than everything else while also bei...
its deserved for legendary/pve too because this argument stands there too its supposed to be hard
brazen mountain
I think I know what’s going on
dusk sable
its deserved for legendary/pve too because this argument stands there too its su...
Legendary is hard even with prenerfed talent/shield
The shield still breaks in two seconds
brazen mountain
I agree
dusk sable
Bro of course it is
brazen mountain
Then why are you complaining that it breaks in 2 seconds?
If you can’t position correctly blame yourself because your not smart enough to find a good spot (no offense here btw)
dusk sable
I'm just giving an example of what could still happen to the shield in legendary
Prenerfed
The shield/insync is broken in pvp yes cuz it was hard to break the shield in a 1v1 and you got blasted
warm minnow
i mean insync is still good tho no?
remember before people would use it with striker drone
brazen mountain
Oh then nevermind
dusk sable
But in PVE it's always difficult to hold the shield in legendary if you don't position yourself in a certain spot
warm minnow
before for whole shield fiasco
dusk sable
Cuz the npcs do crazy dmg
brazen mountain
But in PVE it's always difficult to hold the shield in legendary if you don't po...
Well then again it probably would still break in 2 seconds because it’s legendary
warm minnow
i mean what would you expect from low tier shield to do then
brazen mountain
I’m lucky I don’t break in 2 seconds when I play legendary
brazen mountain
i mean what would you expect from low tier shield to do then
Be useless and not be used idk
dusk sable
My argument with her is yes the shield/insync got phased out but the real benefit only goes towards pvp
And yes no one uses the shield
modest lintel
it was nerfed because of pvp
warm minnow
it was mainly due to pvp 100%
dusk sable
Yes that is what I meant
modest lintel
and yet developers made changes based on smaller proportion of pvp players lol
rich shadow
Shield + insync was cheese anyways
modest lintel
not cheese to me, got destroyed easily with my build.
dusk sable
Its whatever at this point honestly
They have so many problems in their game and it seems like every patch introduces some new ones
And fixes some others
sonic isle
They have so many problems in their game and it seems like every patch introduce...
it's the way games are developed, a long and slow process of continuous improvement
dusk sable
Sure I can't argue with that
timber hatch
what gives more flat damage for myself of opportunistic and vigilance.. 10% amp ...
Vigilance is "total weapon damage" which is confusing, but it's different than "all weapon damage". TWD is only additive with other sources of TWD, and there are not many sources of it, similar to DtooC. It's likely acting as or near a straight amp on your build depending on your build.
dusk sable
Seems like they should just leave PTS on all the time tho tbh
jagged prism
Seems like they should just leave PTS on all the time tho tbh
the problem with that is even if stuff gets reported to PTS they rarely ever do anything about them
dusk sable
Mannn also truueeee
sonic isle
the problem with that is even if stuff gets reported to PTS they rarely ever do ...
no issues there
jagged prism
like the AR/Rifle damage swap. it was probably put in their bugs of the last PTS and hey it made it into live
sonic isle
like the AR/Rifle damage swap. it was probably put in their bugs of the last PTS...
bugs are fun
dusk sable
I mean people knew and reported about the tidal turret hp bug in the 2nd PTS opening
warm minnow
it was due to them being rushed to update the game
sonic isle
it was due to them being rushed to update the game
maybe
dusk sable
I thought they still had to delay the new season
From what I can remember or maybe I'm just being delusional
jagged prism
probably, but executives is we're not making money release it as is
sonic isle
probably, but executives is we're not making money release it as is
deadlines are the worst part of videogames development
not much time.. and so much to do... 😦
fiery jacinth
in countdown what counts as good difficulty cause in the past i dont remember it having an option to change difficulty
jagged prism
or the executives are like "let div 2 die and we can work on the mobile game" kind of deal
i forget but just know normal is supposed to be soloable, heroic is for 8 hardcore players (not the hardcore mode but like 8 players fully optimized)
fiery cloud
Hey Raucey
fiery jacinth
i forget but just know normal is supposed to be soloable, heroic is for 8 hardco...
thanks!!
jagged prism
prior the difficulties were there and it only affected the loots you got. normal you'd see some purple drops then heroic you'd only see yellow
coarse frost
hi, somebody told me to grind at countdown for named items but there always same items dropped, am i doing something wrong ?
jagged prism
depends on the named items you're looking for. say for The Sacrifice chest with Perfect Glass Cannon need to set target loot to providence for best chances, chest for a chance at that plus other named chest pieces like Closer, Pristine Example
clever sage
anybody know a good mision or place to farm the foundry set ?
still granite
Check a place that is dropping the set on target loot
coarse frost
depends on the named items you're looking for. say for The Sacrifice chest with ...
im looking for The Gift backpack
jagged prism
oh that's Darkzone Exclusive
coarse frost
and he said u can farmit on DZ and Countdown
sleek drift
im looking for The Gift backpack
DZ only named item or named item cache
coarse frost
DZ only named item or named item cache
named item cache ?
sleek drift
So farm CD and then spend your reqs on a cache
jagged prism
yeah there's that
coarse frost
where can i find named item chace ?
sleek drift
It won't inherently drop unless you get lucky in the DZ and DZ loot is notoriously shit tier
coarse frost
cache*
sleek drift
where can i find named item chace ?
Countdown requisition vendor
coarse frost
Countdown requisition vendor
huh
sleek drift
or season rewards track
clever sage
oh okay
coarse frost
let me check google where it is
sleek drift
It's in the Base of Operations near the helipad
jagged prism
honestly though can just use a providence backpack with vigilence on it. perfect vigi 3 seconds normal vigilence 4 seconds
sleek drift
Yeh I'm running the standard backpack
coarse frost
It's in the Base of Operations near the helipad
im at dc there is just conflict npc there
sleek drift
See where the container says "ralley point omaha?"
jagged prism
the countdown vendor is just a desk with like a laptop near the seasonal vendor i think?
sleek drift
It'll be next to the season vendor
rotund osprey
im at dc there is just conflict npc there
its a little table with a laptop next to the season vendor
coarse frost
its a little table with a laptop next to the season vendor
omg i found it and i have 14537 gold there
i think im gonna buy so much named chace
jagged prism
👍 good luck
coarse frost
thanks guys really apriciate it
sleek drift
Hf
mighty wedge
i wish there was some way to quickly open apparel caches, i have over 100 keys, aint no way im gonna sit around listen to that disco crap for 2 hours just to get some brown pants, i can make that myself
jagged prism
congrats
rotund osprey
So i hate to be this guy but with the delay on the apparel event for "Quality Check". Has there been any news on fixing the animations and mods for the GR9 and TKB? Along with the shop being set to premium cash only?
stuck hare
So i hate to be this guy but with the delay on the apparel event for "Quality Ch...
They disabled being able to use textiles (the free currency) because it would always use the premium currency no matter what option you picked.
That atleast should be fixed with tomorrow's patch.
jagged prism
the animations aspect might be a back burner thing for them on other pressing matters
like what to do with floor 10 and probably making sure they keep up with schedule for november descent game mode release
mighty wedge
anyone have any dps charts comparison of different gear sets etc?
mighty wedge
i just want the data on how each of the sets parse in optimal scenario
rich shadow
Strikers and ND are top for dps
mighty wedge
i find that no matter how many gimmick gear set the produce, nothing compete with high end red build...
rich shadow
With HF in the mix too
rich shadow
i find that no matter how many gimmick gear set the produce, nothing compete wit...
Then you're doing it wrong.
mighty wedge
u cant convince me that striker is meta because it takes literally 3 hours to reach max stacks and they go down way too fast. that set feels horrible imo
rich shadow
u cant convince me that striker is meta because it takes literally 3 hours to re...
Use the ACS to stack, then swith to AR. New update to strikers goes live tomorrow.
mighty wedge
mean while classic m1a with focus is doing 5 mill per shot after 10 seconds..
mighty wedge
Use the ACS to stack, then swith to AR. New update to strikers goes live tomorro...
whats the update?
jagged prism
i find that no matter how many gimmick gear set the produce, nothing compete wit...
you have a point there. don't have to do much prep work to get deeps
rich shadow
Only 3 stacks lost per second between 100-200 stacks.
Over 1m per crit with a Famas. Fires 50 rounds in a few soconds.
jagged prism
16.1 picaro's will be armor core, 15% weapon damage and 1 random stat. so potential 30% weapon damage
nug let you know about the stack loss aspect
mighty wedge
ive been on and off division for many years and no matter how good they perform on the shooting range, the build-a-stack builds are always, without exception, a complete pain in the ass to play with and more often than not they fall flat
azure lintel
have floor 10 anyone down
jagged prism
have floor 10 anyone down
probably best in your platform lfg
azure lintel
ight
rich shadow
Strikers will be easy to keep stacks after the patch. I've reached very high stacks in countdown running the current iteration.
mighty wedge
50% of countdown gameplay is running..
rich shadow
ive been on and off division for many years and no matter how good they perform ...
We can run a mission together and you use high end dps. I'll use strikers. We can compare.
jagged prism
50% of countdown gameplay is running..
i'd say 75%
rotund osprey
Strikers will be easy to keep stacks after the patch. I've reached very high sta...
honestly if they just made striker like og Div it would be fairly tame compared to the new gears out now
mighty wedge
We can run a mission together and you use high end dps. I'll use strikers. We ca...
what, to compare dmg output?
rich shadow
Damage stats yeah
mighty wedge
why not
rich shadow
@mighty wedge ill give you a dm tomorrow
cinder cloud
is there a setting that allows you to auto scope back in once you go through a mag?
hexed marsh
right click?
cinder cloud
right click?
right click is for aiming
cinder cloud
right click?
middle mouse button is for scoping in
hexed marsh
idk then, when i right click my scope comes out
cinder cloud
that only happens if you're using a scope with an 8x magnifier minimum
hexed marsh
it is my understanding you can only look through a scope if you ahve a scope equipped
frozen holly
No more aiming without scopes, like in div1.
hexed marsh
not sure how to get a scope view without one, sorry
tender wave
you can toggle scoping with some scopes using Tab while ADSing, but it doesn't save your zoom level, it defaults back every time
cinder cloud
^i want to get around having to push the button :/
tender wave
yeah, I haven't found a way to do that, it is a bit annoying
cinder cloud
😦
idk why they cant just put that in there...
doesn't ghost recon have that feature >>
glass steeple
doesn't ghost recon have that feature >>
Ghost Recon as in Ghost Recon Wildlands or Breaking Point?
dusk sable
Wish div2 could do that too
cinder cloud
Ghost Recon as in Ghost Recon Wildlands or Breaking Point?
both of them had that feature i believe
it's such a tiny thing too 😭
dusk sable
They have better priorities like "fixing" floor 10
cinder cloud
wait what's happening to floor 10?
dusk sable
It'll no longer be a exp/loot farm even though that's the premise of summit
Well, fast exp/loot farm
glass steeple
both of them had that feature i believe
I know Wildlands has that feature cuz I play a fair amount. But Break Point I haven't played that yet
dusk sable
Breakpoint has that and more I believe
cinder cloud
Breakpoint has that and more I believe
yep
dusk sable
They vastly improved on the game play and architecture
glass steeple
Speaking on the topic of Break Point. Is that game any good?
elfin hazel
GRW & GRB are anvilnext not snowdrop
tropic compass
Lol this game uses hundreds of materials. Heck even raids uses different types of the same material
cinder cloud
I know Wildlands has that feature cuz I play a fair amount. But Break Point I ha...
the wildlands maps were more fun, you aren't missing much by not playing it
elfin hazel
wildlands is better overall but grb pretty decent
dusk sable
Yeah what he said
cinder cloud
I know Wildlands has that feature cuz I play a fair amount. But Break Point I ha...
it gets repetitive pretty quickly in breakpoint, you'll find yourself doing a mission in the same area you completed a previous mission, it gets boring quick
ops
responded to the wrong person
dusk sable
Maps are more fun on wildlands but the gameplay allows for more versatility on breakpoint
glass steeple
Am I going to get the same vibes as wildlands compared to breakpoint?
cinder cloud
oh i need glasses
glass steeple
Cuz Wildlands is a open world game so idk if it's the same as Breakpoint
cinder cloud
Am I going to get the same vibes as wildlands compared to breakpoint?
the map will wow you and put you off quickly, there's so many places to go but it all kinda looks the same
dusk sable
Cuz Wildlands is a open world game so idk if it's the same as Breakpoint
It is the same in that aspect for both games
But invadertaka says why it's different
cinder cloud
Cuz Wildlands is a open world game so idk if it's the same as Breakpoint
i think there's more areas to go in wildlands but the map is bigger in breakpoint, a lot of it is ocean in breakpoint
the SAMS in breakpoint are everywhere >>
dusk sable
It is more recent tho so they have more events and things supporting it
That's really the most gratifying thing supporting it
glass steeple
@cinder cloud I think it's like that in Wildlands tbh
cinder cloud
<@335566519402496002> I think it's like that in Wildlands tbh
there's way more SAMS in breakpoint >>
dusk sable
<@335566519402496002> I think it's like that in Wildlands tbh
You'll see what he means once you play breakpoint
glass steeple
It's that bad huh LOL
cinder cloud
wasted all that money on that fancy chopper for it not to stay in the air longer than 2 minutes
dusk sable
It's hard to describe it to you until you actually experience it
glass steeple
@dusk sable na I think I'll just keep your word for it😂😂😂
cinder cloud
if you survive the SAMS you won't survive the flimsy invisible tree
glass steeple
Only imagine the amount of mental breakdowns dealing with those things
dusk sable
Honestly you play wildlands for the vibe and experience it gives you. It's just fun. Whereas you go to breakpoint because it's a step up in its gameplay mechanics but that's all it really offers you
Well there is more variety in its guns and other stuff
cinder cloud
wish they went back to wildlands and started working on it again
glass steeple
I love the crossovers they do for the game like R6, The Predator and Splinter Cell all that good stuff.
dusk sable
I love the crossovers they do for the game like R6, The Predator and Splinter Ce...
Well breakpoint does that for yah
glass steeple
Really 👀
cinder cloud
indeed
dusk sable
They have a crossover event I think for terminator
And other ones too
I can't tell you all the crossovers cuz I only played up to that
cinder cloud
do the deathgrips drop in countdown or only dz
jagged prism
dark zone only, but named caches should get you one eventually
glass steeple
Speaking of R6 I try to play that. Didn't like it LOL
cinder cloud
dark zone only, but named caches should get you one eventually
😦 i'll never get an all red one
jagged prism
other way without going into DZ is legacy season caches
it'll never drop all red, it'll be armor, armor on kill is it? and random stat
cinder cloud
my bad, i just want the armor gone, so i can have 2 reds
dusk sable
If only😢
cinder cloud
i've had 13 deathgrips and they all had armor with an additional blue
starting to think it's not possible 😦
dire sundial
Silly question- returning player here- so yea, I’m a noob. Just wanted to know how hard is the raid now?
cinder cloud
hasn't changed
even easier with all the stuff added this year
incompetence is the only thing that will make it hard
dire sundial
Cool. Gearing up now. Gonna watch some videos to learn it
dusk sable
Nice! Keep trying until you get it!
You can always join raids here in the discord but I find it more fun to be with a clan you like
jagged prism
Silly question- returning player here- so yea, I’m a noob. Just wanted to know h...
On going directive in DH probably makes it laughable now
timber hatch
OD isn't a huge change, but sledgehammer is stupid OP on bosses 2&3
dark matrix
shame the apparel event got delayed but better it comes out proper not buggy
dusk sable
Indeed but we kinda already saw it coming when baby face vest kept showing in our loot randomly 😂
dark matrix
yeah
cinder cloud
shame the apparel event got delayed but better it comes out proper not buggy
didn't they delay the last one and it still was bugged?
jagged prism
not to mention they tried to allow us to use our textiles to buy stuff but people with premium lost premium buying things for textiles
dark matrix
it was I think yea
dusk sable
At this point my expectations for them are really low
dark matrix
I personally did not take part as I didn't like the last two though so I only heard about it
dark matrix
biggest shame is to me it looks like the team has potential but not enough resources from Ubi
I assume it can be hard to continue work after another team, plus I heard some negatives on the engine
jagged prism
biggest shame is to me it looks like the team has potential but not enough resou...
probably, but execs is like we'll make a killing with mobile game!
dark matrix
and as it stands I assume delaying things too much is not an option since it would delay more seasons and thus less revenue to justify further development
dusk sable
probably, but execs is like we'll make a killing with mobile game!
It's for the Chinese market, China loves their mobile market a lot
dark matrix
probably, but execs is like we'll make a killing with mobile game!
the funny thing is it looks like they reused a bunch of assets on it like I see in a bunch of mobile games made off bigger franchises
dusk sable
Which I don't agree
dark matrix
I really dislike how depraved mobile is in terms on monetisation
dusk sable
It's crazy how easy it is to spend money on mobile
rotund osprey
Well i guess they're getting practice for the mobile game heartland XD
dark matrix
it is easy yeah
dusk sable
You literally click like 2 buttons and it instantly takes away your money