td2-build-advice

[vapid mantle]

i honestly random threw that on for the all reds since i picked up momento

[lime jackal]

I was gonna go for a frenzy protocol build but I aint got non of the stuff yet

tryna get my hands on the GR9

[vapid mantle]

had on investor first

[vapid mantle]

i did the summit for my sets

[lime jackal]

whats summit

[vapid mantle]

and got hella lucky with the sakura gear box

[lime jackal]

I literally started like 2 days ago lol

[vapid mantle]

top right of the map. its 100 floors of enemies and gear selection

[lime jackal]

In DC?

[vapid mantle]

yep its an offsite can do coop or solo

[lime jackal]

Yea I found it

Im just tryna even out my dmg with armour before I do anything big so I can deal dmg without dying off the bat

So I can farm for proper builds

[wispy timber]

hey should i go for hollow man mask or change the chest piece ?

[violet raven]

As far as high tier escalations (t8-t10), never ran this level before. What are most DPS players using currently? Last I heard was a while ago but I believe I was told 4 piece striker with overdogs/salvo or something along those lines.

[shy willow]

Change the chest to equaliser

And ideally throw on overdogs

[shy willow]

A lot of different variations of striker

[wispy timber]

so 24% damage is better than 25*7 CD ?

[flint arch]

different damage bucket is better than putting everything in the same bucket

[shy willow]

Usually 4 piece with the chest and bag and combinations of:
Foxes
Contractors
Overdogs
Hollow man

[wispy timber]

that's why i wanted to go with damage on life with the hollow man mask*

[flint arch]

the 24% TWD is an additional multiplier and is more valuable than just stacking an additive stat over and over

[shy willow]

It also gives you more damage up front

Which helps alleviate the biggest downside of TS

[wispy timber]

i see

got it thanks then

[violet raven]

Ty - Hollow man with crit on it I'd assume?

[shy willow]

Yes, with the core rolled red

[violet raven]

Danke boss

[delicate hill]

when looking at the stats page does it properly track the different ranges for coyotes and their stat changes or does it apply that in addition after the numbers shown?

so like it shows that im getting crit chance from it but it has the attribute for CHC so im just wondering if i do the mid to long range buffs will those add enough to max my CHC or does the mask allow it to excede the 60% cap?

[ocean wyvern]

It'll max it, but it can't break cap

[delicate hill]

it just doesnt show the buffs on the stat page? like from the 25m+ hit?

[ocean wyvern]

not as far as I know

[delicate hill]

okay just trying to figure it out if i have to shove more CHC in or if i can use CHD

[ocean wyvern]

once you hit 60, you can dump into CHD

[delicate hill]

the mask would take me to 60 with the mid and long range buffs

[subtle bluff]

If you have the proc for it maybe. It's a timing thing. The range makes it buggy.

[brazen oak]

hit lvl 40 recently and im trying to do an lmg and ar build (with the striker gear set) but idk what attributes to focus on

ive heard that its mainly just weapon dmg and then crit chance and dmg

[vapid mantle]

all reds crit

dmg and chance

[brazen oak]

so essentially just weapon damage crit chance and damage

[wicked mica]

ye

[brazen oak]

i assume you get less squishy as you progress the shd watch?

[wicked mica]

a little but not to the point you’ll be face tanking higher difficulty enemies with all red

[brazen oak]

but to the point where i can actually peak out of cover and not get absolutely melted

[subtle bluff]

There’s a starter guide in the Pinned Messages follow that to get your base stuff

[brazen oak]

didnt know that but thank you

[subtle bluff]

It’ll make it less confusing to start.

[wicked mica]

inb4 yee yee ahh strikers

[brazen oak]

im a bit confused about optimization and how it works is there a doc that has info about it or can somebody just explain it to me

[clever bane]

What's the best weapon for heartbreaker gear set?

[vapid mantle]

lexington with flatline and technician

also chatterbox if you can get it imo

[clever bane]

Thank you

[vapid mantle]

ar with high fire rate if you cant pull lexington

and acs-12 shotgun

this

[subtle bluff]

It’s in the Starter Guide too there a section for it.

[brazen oak]

the level 40 one at the top of pinned right?

[subtle bluff]

Just take your time doing everything it’ll get you there. .

[brazen oak]

just a quick question, can you only optimize stuff to max level if you have a max level version of that in the library?

[soft crane]

yeh

[brazen oak]

does it consume the max stat or does it just act as a cap of how high it can be optimized?

[subtle bluff]

Max out your library is the reason why the Starter was made

To point player to make there start easier and quicker

[wicked mica]

Does system corruption have a chance of being the daily bonus drops from the dark zone?

from what I understand it can only be farmed there, friend asked me about it and I incorrectly thought you could just target it normally in summit or something

[soft crane]

SysCor and Yaahl are from DZ yes.

They're not good sets anyway.

[wicked mica]

yea idk about Yaahl and idk if SysCo is good for PvP or just not good

[soft crane]

err...

[hybrid pelican]

system needs a buff its pretty mid only ok for conflict

[wicked mica]

understandable

I can actually craft 4 pieces of it, but idk if they’re the pieces you would want assuming you were building it for conflict

and I also don’t remember which pieces cause I’m at work and can’t look

[soft crane]

Mask, Gloves, and Holster always roll red and Backpack, Chest, and Kneepads always roll blue for SysCor btw.

[wicked mica]

understandable

I almost have heartbreaker overdogs setup complete, I just need the kneepads with CHC so I can recalibrate the core to weapon damage

[soft crane]

🤮

You're breaking my heart.

[wicked mica]

perhaps

but it has given me a reason to use my Lexington

I will probably also use the build to farm Striker pieces

[soft crane]

I got high-end AR build in general.

[wicked mica]

I need a Bighorn

[subtle bluff]

Waiting for you to get GC in there

[wicked mica]

oh damn

Bighorn only drops from legendary strongholds?

[subtle bluff]

And Summit leggo

[wicked mica]

hmm

I will have to try legendary on a boss floor

[smoky latch]

This is the version for adults :>

[wicked mica]

or legendary district union, that’s a fairly easy stronghold

[smoky latch]

Doesn't have to be Bighorn, Strega as exotic here is nice too

[ocean wyvern]

Why 3pc UA instead of a fenris?

[subtle bluff]

20% SWD vs 10%

[smoky latch]

Strega and Bighorn both could use a mag boost

[subtle bluff]

That too helps both.

[smoky latch]

If you use another AR you can use 1pc GS

[ocean wyvern]

but the 20% is 2pc, you could replace a UA with a Fenris and get 30%

[smoky latch]

Better invest in crits

[ocean wyvern]

I'm not understanding how though

[subtle bluff]

I don’t the showcase saved for it

[subtle bluff]

Not worth

[smoky latch]

The 10% SWD < Additional CHD here (if you use 1pc GS instead of 3pcs UA)

[subtle bluff]

I’ll give INF both showcases to show both builds

[ocean wyvern]

That makes more sense now

Is the 3pc UA specific to the bighorn variant?

[smoky latch]

More for Strega I might say

[ocean wyvern]

That's understandable

[subtle bluff]

TY sir

[smoky latch]

From Chow with love

[subtle bluff]

There are both version. UA and older version of the build.

[slow tinsel]

Any recommendations about my build here ? My Crit change RN its 49.7% and CD its 97.0%

[gentle lichen]

get 60% chc

[slow tinsel]

I just have a doubt here, using the overdogs are worth it ? Or should I change them for the Contactor's one for +10% LMG Damage

[steady garnet]

Where can I find more these screens?

[flint arch]

overdogs 30% amp is very powerful and most enemies are tier 3 anyway. you get the amp more often than not, and you will do more damage overall than with contractor's

[slow tinsel]

I see, ty for the clarification.

[shy willow]

Only time I run contractors over overdogs are high tier escalations cuz the target prioritisation gets screwed

[slow tinsel]

Abode tier 7 maybe ?

[smoky latch]

If you mean build suggestions you can check the first pinned message in here for more.

This is a bit outdated but still great base lines:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1LPnA18PDgGg_dEbNI1kZVTVIMGXNHQS_

[brazen oak]

better to just get max levels of everything in library then just optimize or to just transfer the stuff from library?

[tulip gulch]

Would you rather keep proto gear with crappy attributes but with an echo augment or just trash it and keep farming?

[lone wadi]

trash for sure

echo is not all that compared to the right stats

[hybrid pelican]

Focus on maxing out your library so you are able to optimize/recalibrate to the maximum potential. This allows you to optimize with materials or recalibrate a single stat on a piece of gear/weapon

[tulip gulch]

what about core attribute is fine but im getting status effect on tipping scales @lone wadi

[brazen oak]

does optimize gaurentee the highest level or is it kinda just gambling

[lone wadi]

it is in discrete steps

so not one step but there are 'checkpoints' that you optimize to

[hybrid pelican]

Optimization is increasing the stat level of a stat already on a piece of gear. Recalibration is changing a stat to a DIFFERENT stat

[lone wadi]

you can optimize to the highest stat in your library

for example if you have 14 lmg dmg in your library you cannot optimize past that

[brazen oak]

but if i optimize a lmg with 3 lmg dmg will it go straight to the 14?

[brazen oak]

does recalibration change all of them or just a specific one?

[hybrid pelican]

If you press "m" on your lmg.. you see the optimize button in the bottom. look how much it increases. It wont go straight to max

[brazen oak]

i dont think i have it unlocked yet lmao

[hybrid pelican]

You can only recalibrate 1 stat per piece of any gear

[lone wadi]

no it will not

there are 'checkpoints' that it will optimize to in steps

[brazen oak]

so like if i had a thing that had weapon dmg, crit chance, and skill haste i can use recalibration to change skill haste to like crit dmg right?

[hybrid pelican]

exactly

[brazen oak]

thank you btw

so its kinda just a optimize till you max it

[lone wadi]

yea

[brazen oak]

like going up steps 1 step at a time instead of like 2 or 3 if ykwim

[hybrid pelican]

basically: grind for the gear u want - recalibrate 1 stat to make it what u want. Then optimize until its max

[brazen oak]

gotcha

[hybrid pelican]

only if its exactly what you want should you optimize

[brazen oak]

yeah hardest thing for me rn is figuring out what exotics i want to use

i know i wanna do a ar and lmg build with like striker stuff but idk what exotic gear to use along with it

[hybrid pelican]

Exotics cannot be recalibrated btw - so must buy blueprints from inaya in white house then re roll until its what u want - then optimize

[brazen oak]

honestly shocked im this into the game lmao

[tulip gulch]

it's pretty damn good tbh

[brazen oak]

me and my friend bought it when it was on sale to see if it was any good and were both lowk addicted in a sense

[wicked mica]

guns can change depending on the specific variant of the build but coyote’s mask and overdogs gloves are typically the two main options for exotic armor pieces, depending on context

overdogs seems to be more common in general between the two

[smoky latch]

Don't forget Memento. This game has a lot of solo players

[wicked mica]

true, memento also works

[gentle lichen]

Nimble holster....

[wicked mica]

I will probably farm striker’s on Monday when I’m off of work

[gentle lichen]

I shall be doing retaliations perchance at that time
10 named bps away from having them all......

[exotic talon]

is this anything

3 goddamn unicorns in one high end build

[brazen oak]

is nimble holster good for that kind of loadout?

[gentle lichen]

What even does urban give

[exotic talon]

accuracy, skill duration, +30% mmr damage

[smoky latch]

There's only one 🦄

[gentle lichen]

Dps build shoah but it's an acquired taste
Very high armor regen from it though

[exotic talon]

HG gloves and urban knees also come with non-red cores

[gentle lichen]

Allat just to mimic 2 pc hotshot
Or was it 3pc

[subtle bluff]

Still less than hotdog

[smoky latch]

UL has a red core by default

[subtle bluff]

2pc Hotshot is hard to beat.

[exotic talon]

i would say 3pc hotshot too because thats some beefy hsd

[smoky latch]

Not everything that has a non-ideal core is called a unicorn. Ppl use that term lighthearted

[gentle lichen]

None of you know what a real unicorn is....

[smoky latch]

The chest sure is a unicorn because you need two attributes and the talent fitting

[smoky latch]

Weird PvP combos? 😄

[exotic talon]

picaro's holster with chc has somehow given me more difficulty than actual unicorns

[smoky latch]

I still dream of a PS chest with double crits and GC...

[exotic talon]

i think 2pc hotshot 1pc airaldi handily beats urban

[gentle lichen]

Not a single piece rolls with a blue except cath
The real deal is the bag and chest which costed 50m credits to get imminence mats from vendor and 1k+ crafting

[smoky latch]

Yeah okay, that's rough

[gentle lichen]

But oh is it a good build

[smoky latch]

So I've heard

Can't even recreate as proto

Not that it works anyway

[halcyon sentinel]

if fi healer with birdie what the glove?

[solar sable]

alps

[halcyon sentinel]

named or just normal alps?

[solar sable]

normal, named is useless and you lose an attribute slot

[halcyon sentinel]

oky

[smoky latch]

I'd rather use an Alps chest with ER and The Setup. Let's you switch to either Birdie's or BTSU whenever you need

[subtle bluff]

Tbh it doesn't matter Alps or hana-u both work.

[subtle bluff]

I don't like that idea.

[smoky latch]

You don't need BTSU all the time and neither Birdie's (ideally). This lets you switch easily to whichever is needed

[subtle bluff]

FI chest is just fine.

[smoky latch]

This way the team gets 5% more increased DMG if I'm not mistaken

15% FI when at full armor and additional 15% from ER whenever healed

And I can shoot my heals whenever with a team that half knows what it does

Jsut trying stuff out, I don't heal often enough

[icy jasper]

Nice build I take it pvp?

Most use bighorn but glad to see regulus still getting some love

[teal ibex]

went max crit damage where possible. chose rof instead of ammo bag btw.
yea used striker chest piece.

i mostly do escalation/legend.

[vestal pasture]

What is the best tipping scales exotic armor instead of overdogs(i hate overdogs,it forces me to shoot the low rank adds first.many times i have to shoot a higher rank add first and that makes my dps low)

[teal ibex]

tinkerer is fun👀

[icy jasper]

Anyone got a new and fresh off meta build for pve

[teal ibex]

striker with equalizer lol. overdogs glove. easy start for anything except endgamr

[subtle bluff]

Not a good way to measure dmg output. Due rpm and base WD.

[icy jasper]

I'm bored of that

I think I'll try nego delmia with strega

[subtle bluff]

It doesn't force you.

[teal ibex]

yea hence why im here lol. idk how much damage i actually do right now. OD is fun. TS feels lacking with this build. and striker well. is striker😅

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages there's a DPS Calc in there.

[icy jasper]

OD honestly good for groups but tipping with bullet king kinda funny

[teal ibex]

there is? ow cool

[icy jasper]

I prefer umbra cuz of rpm tho

[teal ibex]

im using gr9 lol

[vestal pasture]

30% amplified damage to the lowest tier (1, 2, or 3) present in combat...
So if i shoot higher tier first, i will not get any benifits

[icy jasper]

Is tinker good on hh setups?

[subtle bluff]

I understand how it works. It doesn't force you to do it.

It still gives more dmg overall even at half the uptime.

[icy jasper]

Yea honestly just play normally

[subtle bluff]

I am not aiming for overdogs. No issues.

[vestal pasture]

If i shoot the highest tier first i will not get any benifit from od right?

[icy jasper]

Me personally I prefer coyote tho as it has a more consistent up time

[teal ibex]

measured is meh

[icy jasper]

How so? It's like meta rn next to killer

[teal ibex]

because its meta doesnt mean i like it. gr9 has a high rpm with 200 ammo. its annoying to see it go from minigun to slowpoke mode

[subtle bluff]

Consistent... I swear. Without aiming whatever in the end it'll still give more dmg than coyote.

[teal ibex]

killer is mostly solo. not worthwhile for escalation👀

[icy jasper]

I mens yea I still use dogs but I still like coyote for some builds over it plus it's good in groups

[tepid mantle]

what could i change here for more dmg i got 50% crit chance and 84% dmg

[shrewd stump]

Feels like turmoil is dragging your leg

[icy jasper]

Honestly it seems ok minus turmoil nerfing ur damage in half

[subtle bluff]

Not using TS Chest.

[teal ibex]

turmoil splits the dmg.. not actually do a richochet i noticed...

[tepid mantle]

what should i change

[shrewd stump]

I’d use 10% lmg dmg chest with obliterate over TS chest

[subtle bluff]

Even then to a degree... Overdogs just is meta even at 30% uptime.

[subtle bluff]

Equalizer chest.

[icy jasper]

Still wondering how u exp 30 at 176 shd

[tepid mantle]

?

[shrewd stump]

Probably drops

[icy jasper]

Meanwhile I'm 5200+ at exp 11

[tepid mantle]

they only drop in exp 30

[icy jasper]

😭

[teal ibex]

1250 with exp 22 lol

[icy jasper]

Oh I didn't know fhis

[shrewd stump]

Yesterday a great feast with TS target loot

[tepid mantle]

yeah sadly i didint get the backpack

[teal ibex]

not for me sadly. i think i miss 1 part so im stuck with ts chest lol

[shrewd stump]

I spend too much time farmed out unicorn piece CHD and CHC for every TS

[teal ibex]

all of it got chc. so i can do chd mods all the way lol

[tepid mantle]

okay so change ts chest for equalizer and turmoil kneepads for TS ?

[icy jasper]

Anyone have a list of all the augment btw

[shrewd stump]

I’d argue you’re using LMG and I don’t f with the 5% rpm over 10% lmg dmg

Don’t feels any different even with 12.5% extra

[tepid mantle]

yeah the the problem is if i change the kneepad im losing 8% crit chanche and i already only have 50 chance and 84 dmg

[icy jasper]

Higher rpm is good for burst dps tho but if sustain is ur goal then more lmg damage is the way I think

[teal ibex]

gun full crit chance? mods on armor chc?

[shrewd stump]

Bluescreen doesn’t have any built in CHD , maybe ceska chest or knee pad? The hammer one

[teal ibex]

i dont get below 55 chc with any gun actually😶

[icy jasper]

Yea it doesn't have any crit mods

[shrewd stump]

Long run over burst imo but yeah depend your play style

[tepid mantle]

would it be better if i use smth like big al ?

[shrewd stump]

Big AL doesn’t have any either, you’ve CHD on bullet king, of iron lung

[teal ibex]

i would say content too? sometimes burst over long. visa versa. escalation wise would say burst🤔 bosses consistency

[shrewd stump]

I use frenzy 46 for main and Bullet king as back up

[teal ibex]

u wanna play with a minigun?👀

go gr9. its hilarious 😁

[shrewd stump]

Absurd, I wanna cosplay as A-10 as soon as tinker fixed

[icy jasper]

Assuming ur in cover

[teal ibex]

still dunno what talent to pick to switch out for sadist tbh😶

[icy jasper]

If oD tinker use pressure point

[subtle bluff]

#ask-td2-community pinned should have it.

[teal ibex]

versatail so to say. got tink od/strike/ts lol

[shrewd stump]

I personally favor frenzy and measured for going into MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE, add a salvo too, if you catch my drift

[teal ibex]

measured is fine just dont really like how it handles. so basically a second option

[shrewd stump]

But gun go fast, dopamine

[subtle bluff]

Don't use turmoil. Unless you know what you're doing mostly lower difficulty.
Turmoil will double your single target TTK

[teal ibex]

it already go fing fast.

[shrewd stump]

Gun go faster

[teal ibex]

gun stops time with rpm without measured

[shrewd stump]

More speed more passion, I need higher speed, faster than smg

[teal ibex]

just need a replacement for 2nd talent thats all lol

and not measured

[shrewd stump]

Picture you blast 300 bullets in a blink

[teal ibex]

with measured u dont. last half mag go slowpoke mode. 😑

[shrewd stump]

Big dmg tho

[teal ibex]

big dmg but time slows. me bored

me need consistent brrrrrrr

[shrewd stump]

Fair enough

[teal ibex]

when that gunner perk triggers. holy hell btw

[icy jasper]

Gotta use bullet king then

I feel like Arnold when I whip her out

get to the Choppa!!!

[shrewd stump]

Although Tipping scale mag size doesn’t favor bulletking but bulletproof king work amazing with it

[icy jasper]

Iron longs is ok too

It also has crit mods so u don't have to sacrifice em on ur gear

[gritty pilot]

I have a question, what gear set goes well with royal works?

[tepid mantle]

on the exotic lmgs you want damage to targets out of cover right ?

[buoyant perch]

LMGs always have dtoc already. For the third attribute, you want crit chance.

[fresh pagoda]

Why does Tinkerer Mask not work with Prototypes

is it because it's coded as an exotic?

[teal ibex]

eh no. consistent brr. is not lowering rpm because of measure.

[soft crane]

Striker, and Tipping Scale.

[soft crane]

Bugged. Prototype is a rarity above High-End and Gearset.

Exotic is a unique rarity on par with High-End.

[buoyant perch]

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/the-division/the-division-2/bug-reporter/issues/TCTD2-1405

Marked as fix planned

[vocal robin]

anyone have a good starter build for PvP? i keep getting shredded

[viscid plaza]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/NZz7FKFj

[vocal robin]

thank you!

[viscid plaza]

There is an Umbra version where you run all yellows on Umbra and use capacitor

[vocal robin]

is CS better than umbra? im farming umbra right bow but will switch if its better.

[viscid plaza]

I think it's better as it just has more stats baked in and gives you access to even more weapon dmg than Umbra. Umbra gives you the ability to heal which is super strong but CS just has too much going for it to not run it atm

[vocal robin]

sounds great, thank you!

[shut kindle]

Cora strength yellow is meta for pvp

Either heal or skill damage version, I've got repair skill, skill damage, armour and red, I made the heal 1 day 1 and the others within the first week

[viscid plaza]

My build is a lil outdated though, run UA kneepads instead of Ceska

[shut kindle]

Armour and wep damage are meh, the repair skill and skill damage one is nuts OP with capacitor

[vocal robin]

is that Unit Alloys??

[viscid plaza]

@vocal robin This is closer to what I'm currently running. I think it's very strong and versatile

Precision Smart Cover can turn a fight and can help you win 2v1s if you are positioned well, if you don't want to run that you can run maybe stinger

[subtle bluff]

Not saying you need to move but we do have #td2-pvp-discussions

[exotic talon]

you need less chc and more chd

[viscid plaza]

Yeah, move a crit chance mod to crit damage

[exotic talon]

you can also afford to switch the third cs to yellow core and run gunner

or demo for mortar

how do people fall for this

[viscid plaza]

lol idk if any mods are online

@tranquil inlet

[tranquil inlet]

Cheers

[exotic talon]

dont just cross react me, whats your reasoning for staying over 60% chc and below 100% chd

[drifting cargo]

after CHC, Hazpro, Reload Speed and Skill Haste from SHD watch bonus any suggestion what i should take next ?

[subtle bluff]

PvP CHC is important

Crit just happen very important priority in PvP vs PvE is different mindset

[exotic talon]

is 60% that much better than 56%

[subtle bluff]

Every bullet matter in a mag in PvP

Again just a different mindset for PvP why I push PvP stuff into the other channel

[viscid plaza]

I actually run the lower CHC version, but I'm not sure if the difference between these two will win or lose you a gunfight

[wicked mica]

Hunter’s fury is typically run with memento and equalizer right? I want to make sure my usual HF build isn’t out of date

chatterbox or vector + Scorpio or custom R870 depending on situation

[soft crane]

Dark Winter.

[wicked mica]

ye, still trying to get my hands on that

using a regular tac 9mm vector with regular killer in the meantime

[viscid plaza]

Backfire can be strong too if you can deal with being... dizzy

[wicked mica]

haven’t tried that yet, but I have one with good stat rolls

[viscid plaza]

It can be annoying to use, but has great mods and the talent gives you basically peak dmg on an SMG

[wicked mica]

understandable

I’m gonna spend Monday farming keys and hoping for a dark winter from an event cache

besides that is there any way to get a Stack Broker? I know it doesn’t show up in named caches, but would it show up in like reconstructed caches or something? Or are people who just happened to not be playing at the time screwed

[viscid plaza]

Unfortunately screwed, but I'm sure they will add it to an event or something in the future

[wicked mica]

hopefully, guess I’ll be using my Rock N’ Roll for the foreseeable future when in need of an ACS12

although I should also get a regular ACS12 so I can apply flatline

[viscid plaza]

I like the regular ACS12 with Back N Forth (although Back n Forth Lexington is prolly BIS in most slots)

[wicked mica]

I’ve always seen killer/measured/flatline being the recommended depending on red build but granted that’s with a small handful of options I’ve looked at involving the Lexington

namely the bog-standard striker build, heartbreaker build and uhhhhhh I forget the last one

[viscid plaza]

Prolly tipping scales

[wicked mica]

possibly, though I think that’s more LMG oriented

[viscid plaza]

As a secondary I'd prolly prefer it with BnF

[wicked mica]

which I still need to farm cause I’ve grown to like LMGs with my ongoing directive setup, didn’t like them for a long time

[subtle bluff]

This is very good but it's all burst. SMG9 is very good

[wicked mica]

understandable, might try crafting a SMG9 if it doesn’t cost me too much polycarbonate

went through a lot before getting a decent tac vector to finally pop

Scorpio really is useful no matter what build you’re running though, ngl

even if it’s not actually used in your build, you can swap to it for rogue agents or hunters and it’s just a damn godsend

I started doing that when I’d get rogues in summit and I’m struggling way less

[drifting cargo]

hello where i can find list of enemy weakness ? like each faction tank and robotic ?

[buoyant perch]

https://youtu.be/6arT8HuuPis

[soft crane]

That video is surprisingly new.

Black Tusk warhound main weakness are their legs. You directly damage its main health rather than have to go through an armor plate first.

[wicked mica]

the actual weakness of a warhound is a one shot headshot build with the buffs active

[buoyant perch]

Which is why my MMR has DTH

[robust ravine]

I was wondering if this is good enought for T10 escalation dps?

[wicked mica]

I still just use DTOC, as long as you’ve got headhunter and determined active one shot will instantly make a warhound explode

[exotic talon]

dont nego and pestilence go against each other

[buoyant perch]

I need to make sure they die in 4-man legendary

[wicked mica]

ah yea fair

I need to run legendaries to try for a bighorn, but I don’t know if I should attempt it solo or look for a group

I’ll probably see if I can solo any first just to see if I can manage it

[exotic talon]

just do black tusk retals for the bp

[wicked mica]

I prefer to avoid giving myself AIDS, thanks

every BT retal I tried solo was an absolute shartshow

[exotic talon]

so you would rather solo a legendary???

[wicked mica]

yea cause I expect a legendary to be hell

when I can solo hyena and outcast retals I shouldn’t feel like I can’t do a black tusk one

on challenging, no less, when I can complete nearly everything else I do on heroic

idk if it’s just bad luck or what, but it feels like a huge jump in difficulty whenever it’s black tusk for no apparent reason

[normal shadow]

Honestly in higher tiers you do need Birdie's pretty often. Unless you've got really good teammates. I've tried Alps gloves and Birdie's and then switch to BTSU between encounters if I feel like it. Haven't felt like it yet.

[brittle drift]

Black tusk kill squad is no joke. I play retal on challenging and it's a walk in the park. Vut once I see BTSU I get nervous amd find some good cover. The warhound is the worst

[soft crane]

Even the mini tank has a name. It wont self destruct when every other members are dead.

[exotic talon]

i love fighting team 9 they never fail to piss me off

[brittle drift]

I once tried EMP on the warhound but it didn't work. Maybe I was too far. So I always run with banshee

[stone python]

I think the Proto augment that refills the magazine is also worth considering

[summer totem]

Anyone got a decent hive healer build ?

[stone python]

Is this a good Proto TS build? saw it on the interwebs

[steady garnet]

How to add more survivability without losing damage significantly?

[brittle drift]

You don't. You learn how to survive and deal a lot of damage quickly

[jovial tulip]

Why people keep saying model 700 deals more dmg than whit death?

[merry flax]

you just can't

[brittle drift]

What content do you play and what difficulty

[steady garnet]

Heroic, countdown, cps mostly for now

[brittle drift]

On higher difficulties armor will not help you. It's better to learn how to avoid damage and kill them faster

[merry flax]

you should just focus to perfect your build and gain dps... faster you kill, less damage you take, more survivability

[drifting cargo]

fot striker build , with Inf MG5 what talent should be the best ? right now the stat still kinda bad

[steady garnet]

@merry flax @brittle drift Thanks

[lucid talon]

hello guys , i wanna know can i still get picero holster ? from countdown ?

[hazy steeple]

@lucid talon It's not DZ locked, so you can get it anywhere yeah.

[lucid talon]

@hazy steeple thanks i appreciate the info

[ocean wyvern]

Model 700 has a higher base damage, so it deals a higher top-end with Headhunter, but White Death has a higher first shot

[teal ibex]

strained or optimist talent for lmg? what would be better 🤔

[ocean wyvern]

I'd say strained, especially on larger mag LMGs

[urban latch]

frenzy is the main reason to use LMGs

[stone python]

How about frenzy on lmgs

[ocean wyvern]

Frenzy is the GOAT

[stone python]

I have a perfectly rolled GR9 with Frenzy

I use it with Tipping scales build.

[ocean wyvern]

GR9 with Frenzy goes absolutely nuts

[stone python]

Add that +50 rounds mag attachment and Voila 🙂

[urban latch]

Since TS boosts your CHD so much, this works against strained, so its not exactly ideal

[stone python]

Really?

[urban latch]

because your stacking so much CHD on top of CHD, its just going to make less of a difference

[stone python]

So what talent should I use on the GR9?

[ocean wyvern]

Frenzy, Frenzy is fine over strained

[stone python]

My dream is to get my hands a proto GR9 with Frenzy and Echo augment 🙂

Or just Frenzy and I ll reroll augment

[teal ibex]

yea look up what i build >.> i didnt ask for frenzy

[urban latch]

Oh your one of the people who reject good advice, good to know

[teal ibex]

i didnt reject it. and no im not ''one of those''

[ocean wyvern]

@teal ibex What's the build you're putting together with the Strained LMG?

[teal ibex]

tinkerer striker/od/TS. while TS quiet suck in this scenario tbh

[wicked mica]

care to share

sounds baller

I still need a GR9 though

[stone python]

I'm at work atm, sorry when I get home I ll share a screenshot

[wicked mica]

all good chief

just ping me with it cause I’ll likely be asleep by then

since I’m probably going to fall asleep in like an hour

[stone python]

Sure thing 👍

[wicked mica]

in the meantime I can probably make do with a crafted Sleipnir

[teal ibex]

its okish imo

[wicked mica]

rarely see firefly used

I tend to run a decoy with my LMG build

[stone python]

Yeah this is the build I'm currently using minus I don't have a proto Tipping Scales Mask.

[teal ibex]

oh dw bout that lol. just lvlign demolisher. with i think prob 1 core of tech. it can 1 tap weakpoint in escalation t5. didnt try it but yea.... u usually go full reds in there.

[wicked mica]

understandable

[ocean wyvern]

What exotic is that in the screenshot?

[teal ibex]

the gun or the gloves?
gloves overdogs.
gun sanctum. just lvling it on the side. lol

[ocean wyvern]

The gun, I should've specified haha, but that makes sense, I just didn't recognize it

[teal ibex]

honestly its shit. hence why i just equip it on the side for profiency 🤣

[ocean wyvern]

Oh I know it's absolute shit, like I said, I just didn't recognize it because I've hardly seen it

[teal ibex]

yea i knew a few others that total shit 🤣

[ocean wyvern]

universal weapon skin ass exotics lol

[teal ibex]

lol nah was more looking at liberty for example or oxpecker/sweetdreams. merciless lol.

''but its good'' nah man. >.>

[shy willow]

Ehh none of those are complete trash at least

Sacrum is just genuinely useless and on top of that has a garbage base gun

[teal ibex]

yea. totally. the others i mentioned are as bad as sanctum tho

[ocean wyvern]

Liberty, Sweet Dreams, and Merciless you can at least make a build around, Sacrum and Oxpecker are just clunky

[teal ibex]

its like they made 1 exotic this horrible to use just to punish u for expertise lvling or something xD

[shy willow]

I think sacrum and overlord are the only exo weapons I would feel truly useless

They're not fun or effective whatsoever

[ocean wyvern]

They really had a thing for giving exotics slowing effects

[teal ibex]

i mean sweet dreams one tapping anything below yellowbars is funny to use. but its not exactly usefull in more endgame stuff

[shy willow]

It's the opposite 😭

[teal ibex]

lol i doubt.

[shy willow]

It's pretty much always on my person when I'm playing healer in escalations

You can get several cheap kills

[teal ibex]

how big is the chance u will have one this close. unless u gotta run

[shy willow]

You run towards them

[teal ibex]

u know they 3-4tap u regardless.

[teal ibex]

u use it as secondary i assume? i mean i dont see it be viable as main gun in escalation situations tbh

[ocean wyvern]

It's a situational thing, but it definitely gives a healer an option to get out of a sticky situation

[shy willow]

Yeah, lefty and sweet dreams

[shy willow]

You can bait their melee

[teal ibex]

whats with healer and shotguns lol. i miss something?

[shy willow]

You also get one shot protection to bail you out every 30 seconds

[teal ibex]

maybe i didnt read it well enough🤔

[ocean wyvern]

The shotguns are some of the best support weapons without having to rely on damage

[shy willow]

They proc opportunistic and just happen to have some of the best support weapons (lefty and Scorpio)

[teal ibex]

scorpio yes. lefty idk why. im not that familiar with shotgun talents

[shy willow]

It's a universal game mechanic

[shy willow]

Anyone you hit with a grenade has reduced movement speed and takes 20 percent increased damage to armour

[ocean wyvern]

is it 20% I thought it was 40 on lefty

[teal ibex]

makes sense why i survived several times when i should be dead dead

[shy willow]

It was nerfed a while back when they released mosquito iirc

[ocean wyvern]

Ahhhh gotcha

[teal ibex]

oke so u spamm grenades?

or does an skill trigger it as well

[shy willow]

Not necessarily spam but any it helps your DPS out a lot to sledge everything

[teal ibex]

then u would take the largest radius grenade.. prob technician or flame🤔

[shy willow]

For me it's a bit more simple because I threw currency at my build

[ocean wyvern]

All atomize?

[shy willow]

Yea

[ocean wyvern]

good lord

[teal ibex]

survivalist has biggest radius grenade?🤔

[teal ibex]

aint that the status augment

[shy willow]

I think the flashbang is the biggest I just have a dumb amount of grenade radius buff

[ocean wyvern]

That's Amalgam, atomize is +nade radius and dmg

[teal ibex]

u just throw 1 grenade. the whole map got infected xD

[shy willow]

15 meters on the flash lol

[teal ibex]

holy

[shy willow]

Depending on the room this is more or less what happens

[teal ibex]

u didnt lie u had big radius🤣

im wondering 1 thing tho. why nobody uses firefly demolisher? its pretty usefull

[shut kindle]

I GOT IT!!!!

[shy willow]

Slower and clunkier than a crossbow bolt

[teal ibex]

demolisher aims for weakpoints🤔 didnt play much with crossbow so idk

[teal ibex]

from event?

[shy willow]

It instantly breaks plating

The demolisher just takes too long and is just generally clunky

There's a lot of better utility skills to bave

[shut kindle]

No, you have to keep prototyping them over and over and over, it's about my 120th prototyped lexington

[teal ibex]

there are just was wondering. its funny to use. doing weakpoint damage millions basically 1 tapping half of em

[teal ibex]

prototype over and over for the max rolls? u bin grinding👀

[shut kindle]

yes

[teal ibex]

nice. gratz👍

[shut kindle]

Tyv,m, I'm so gflad I got it before event end

Anything else Idc, I can grind them whenever, but lex had to grind during event

Now to get all 3 rolls on my mk46 ❤️

[teal ibex]

i got like 10 waiting lol. didnt delete it xD

[teal ibex]

oof.. im exp 22 so.. i will fsce this struggle sooner or later

[shy willow]

Have you considered prototyping builds instead😭

So much effort 😭

[teal ibex]

oh boy... a full set maxed armor... 😭

by the time i have it div3 releases prob🤣

[shut kindle]

My striker is only missing kneepads, everyuthing else maxed

[plush pike]

uh where do you get the holographic decoy?

[shy willow]

And here I thought I was rich

[shy willow]

Killing Theo Parnell in New York

[plush pike]

oh so dlc

[shy willow]

Yes

Sticky bomb, smart cover and decoy are all dlc

[plush pike]

well that means a part of the hotshot build isnt possible for me

[shy willow]

You don't need the decoy it's just good to have

[shrewd stump]

on a TS build, is obliterate better or TS chest?

[ocean wyvern]

Obliterate, the extra stacks with the chest aren't worth the investment of keeping them up

[minor grove]

does that legit get everything in the circle as far as like riot foam?

[shy willow]

Won't burn through obstructions horizontally so it's better for open spaces

[lost wren]

what’s the escalation mission to farm this week?

[soft crane]

escalation target loot changes everyday sir

[lost wren]

what’s the most farmable mission i mean

don’t care about the targeted loot

[soft crane]

#ask-td2-community message

[shy willow]

If you don't care about loot American history museum is by far the fastest

[raven rose]

anybody got a soild lmg build for a player who dosent have any exotics ?

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

[raven rose]

wrd

[lunar jewel]

Wyd

[soft crane]

?

[spiral elm]

I followed the hotshot build in the pinned its doing 20+ mill once it gets going but I’ve seen stuff about using the ninja bike and mixes of not using the full 4p of hotshot to gain a lot of different two pieces. Is that just min maxing atp or is it worth to experiment with it

[soft crane]

The one with 3 pieces of Hotshot, Chainkiller, and Airaldi with Vigilance?

[spiral elm]

Yeah

[soft crane]

Highest I dealt is 40M as crit but still not enough to oneshot named in heroic and full group. Though my backpack is Providence instead of Airaldi which Im sure still not enough to one shot a named.

[spiral elm]

I kinda liked the full 4p hotshot more for those benefits it gives but yk is it worth reworking a build or farming pieces for a few extra mill

Ur using 3p hotshot?

[soft crane]

Obligatory 50M reinforcer chem GIF.

[soft crane]

yeh

[spiral elm]

So interesting

I assume the usual numbers you see for a headshot is sitting around 30m then?

[soft crane]

A piece of Providence gives headshot damage anyway and the main reason why Im not using Airaldi is I gave up farming for it. 10 hours straight and still cant find it.

[soft crane]

32M yes.

[spiral elm]

I’m also a new player I was farming control points on heroic last night got to like 225 I think

Missing a lot of crit and headshot bonuses from that but with what I got and the season modifiers I’m sitting around 350 headshot damage I think

[soft crane]

Ah yeah Im not using seasonal modifier.

Too lazy.

[spiral elm]

I have the overdogs and an airaldi I’ll try it

[soft crane]

yeh, attributes are headshot damage and weapon handling.

[spiral elm]

I’m at work rn I just was wanting to take that mmr build to the max I could

That named u showed where u hit 50 mill was that like an kitsunebi enemy health wise?

[soft crane]

Nah this is retaliations. Keep in mind Kitsunebi squads has health link where the damage is shared when you hit one of them.

Shared to all the squad members when its active.

[spiral elm]

Didn’t know that

[soft crane]

Yeh its like being forced to use Nego or Turmoil.

[spiral elm]

Sounds worth to try some different builds I have the overdogs and the ninja bike I think I just been keeping any exotic I get fr

[soft crane]

Ninjabike is meh for PvE.

[spiral elm]

For the build u showed me what was ur headshot dmg

In the stats I mean

[alpine wigeon]

Are 2 Habsburg Guard better than Chainkiller and The Gift?

[soft crane]

Around 300%

307% i think

[loud sleet]

hmm just thinking is the tinkerer best choice for this one for fast reloard yes but otherwise hmmm

[spiral elm]

@soft crane thats so odd i was around 350 last night only doing regularly 20 to like 24 mill does overdogs really boost that much

Well I’ve seen how they boost for the AR so it’s not that surprising fr

[upper yew]

wait, does equipping two lmg's make it so you get 20% ammo from gunner's passive ?

[hexed steppe]

Hsd doesnt really help your top end much. Headhunter relies on wd for top end damage. Youll definitely hit harder with overdogs, and youll also hit harder if you can get away from determined

[loud sleet]

donno im using 2 just for tinkerer

[strong cave]

No

[unborn flax]

tinkerer mask dont work with proto guns???

[soft crane]

Should be but bugged at the moment.

Known issue they havent fix.

[unborn flax]

wow okay

[soft crane]

Palisade Steelworks as targeted loot yes.

[wind wyvern]

okay thank you. how rare is it too get a drop with 3 reds lol sorry new too making and builds and griding for all the gare for it

[soft crane]

Core attributes are always fixed except for some cases like Core Strength, and Investor exotic mask.

[soft crane]

If you want to change the core attribute to weapon damage, good luck getting CHC and CHD for the sub attributes.

[wind wyvern]

no not Core attributes just the 3 attributes

[hexed steppe]

not to mention the correct talent

[soft crane]

The third attribute is gearmod.

[wind wyvern]

ohhh

[soft crane]

Any build that require you to change the core attribute is "a pain in the ass to build, build."

[wind wyvern]

so i just need one with 2 red then lol forgot about putting my own gearmods

[hexed steppe]

unicorns

[soft crane]

yeh good luck with that

[hexed steppe]

you can also craft if you have the blueprint

[wind wyvern]

all day doing countdown yay

[soft crane]

Desperate times require desperate measures ahh

Extremis Malis Extrema Remedia could translate to that as well iirc

[hexed steppe]

sometimes you dont want to farm, especially when you are tripping over enough shd to just optimize

[thorn smelt]

Easy layback build doing tier 5 solo atm

[hexed steppe]

tsd bag talent would be stronger than the efficiency from the mask

[urban latch]

easy layback "get myself carried" escalation build

[urban latch]

at least run empathic resolve to help your teammates slightly

[limpid charm]

Anyone have a suggestion build for Countdown?

I'm running reviver Hive and Riot Foam as Skills.

[hexed steppe]

listed as solo build

[urban latch]

fair enough

[soft crane]

yee yee ahh strikers

[limpid charm]

Valid, guess I'm making a striker build next

[hexed steppe]

if you like running support , eclipse foam cc is really good in countdown. i have a hazpro version i run in the sheet... its all i really run there

[soft crane]

Controlling the Crowd

Or maybe even The Stackless Strikers

[delicate hill]

if i wanted to use a ravenous what kinda build would be used with that?

[civic meteor]

You can get over dogs from general loot pool right?

[exotic talon]

regular rifle would work fine
the gimmick also works well with support and pfe builds apparently

[weak quail]

Yeah gotten it plenty of times from priority objectives

Pretty easy to get the blueprint from hyena kill squads on retaliation tho

[delicate hill]

so just slap it in to a regular support build and it would work sort of? lol

wouldnt bittersweet be a better rifle for a support build tho? unless you want more damage

[smoky latch]

It's not a great main weapon but great for its niche purposes

[spiral elm]

@hexed steppe hey had to lock into work rq but by getting away from determined u just mean using other perks and such?

[spiral elm]

@soft cranegot home changed put on overdogs and im getting just shy of 30m

[junior lagoon]

I used a pfe build in countdown for over a year

You can use anybuild there in challenging

I lied 4 months actually

[tepid mantle]

what lmgs should i use if i want to play with tinkerer mask

[tall shoal]

depends on the weapon talents imo.

[tall shoal]

just wanted to say ihsens shade profile pic and name from a feist book. you are my hero and ill listen to any advice you give.

[tepid mantle]

yeah i want to use frenzy and measured but what types of lmg should i use

[tall shoal]

my personal preference is the MK or the black market M60 with frenzy. Bigger mags leave a lot of downtime with frenzy. My preference is around 150ish magazine size. second LMG doesnt really matter with tinkerer since it only works with the primary

[subtle bluff]

Trinkerer just to note isn't meta by any means. Yes there maybe something interesting to use but it's not anything special vs other choices.

[tepid mantle]

okay thanks alot

[tepid mantle]

yeah i know i just got the mask an wanted to try some fun build i like to play alot builds before i was playing ts with bluescreen

[exotic talon]

there are much better talents for a headshot build but its good to have a determined secondary handy

[hexed steppe]

Yeah, something like mantis is a really good sniper that basically gives you zero cooldown decoy. Shroud also hits hard. Any of the bolts with damage talent also top tier. All require you to be able to chain actual headshots tho

[exotic talon]

mantis is very strong if you can play around your decoy

[hexed steppe]

Mantis is 😍

[exotic talon]

it marks heads in ads and gets a damage amp to enemies not targeting you

i prefer shroud just because of how cool smart net looks and being able to erase someone's head

i have seen up to 9 figure damage numbers with that thing

[tall shoal]

mantis is a very good rifle to train getting headshots on though with the circle.

[solar sable]

wtf

[exotic talon]

chainkiller, vigi and probably some global event on top
i can regularly get 50-60 mil though

as i mentioned in #td2-general-chat i oneshot a ronin today with a blindfire headshot at max hh and vigi active

[spiral elm]

can u send me that build

determined lets me be lazy too tho @exotic talon can kinda dissasociate from the game a bit

[reef sky]

How can I farm this material I have zero does not show in my resources

[spiral elm]

those are assessments you need them from the specific boss type

@exotic talonand wth is vigi and max hh lol

[reef sky]

Where is that at?

[subtle bluff]

It a faction thing

[spiral elm]

@reef skyin that menu u were in hit resouces and itll show u what faction boss

[hexed steppe]

Vigilance talent , max headhunter stacks

[reef sky]

Okay I see thanks 🙏🏾

[cobalt ravine]

Is this a good build lol

[subtle bluff]

Go to the Pinned Message and start with the guide you're off to a decent start

[cobalt ravine]

??

[subtle bluff]

If you go to the Pinned Messages. There is a starter guide that'll help you out with the rest of what you're trying to do.

[spiral elm]

@exotic talonyou think u can help me out for a sec i have shroud i just wanna see how high i can get fr

[cobalt ravine]

Ik im dumb but like where is the pinned messages

[subtle bluff]

If on mobile, tap on the channel then go to Pinned

[subtle bluff]

Above

[spiral elm]

@subtle bluffthis is what im running actually i just he was using som other stuff

[upper rover]

Is coyotes mask or fox prayers or contractor gloves or salvo could be any ig better on avg if my gun doesn't have DTTOC

[spiral elm]

without mantis tho i been just running regular determined ill try shroud

[slate basin]

Depends on your CHC/CHD but Fox's should generally be better than Coyotes.

Of all of those depends on rest of the build.

[upper rover]

It's for first bloom

Strikers backpack

[subtle bluff]

You always want to have DTTooC is the simple answer here.

DTTooC stats on the weapon is higher than Foxes first off. Foxes value to a non-rifle build isn't great vs other gear.

[upper rover]

Yeah but I can't have it on weapon

That's the point of asking about foxes

[subtle bluff]

why not?

[upper rover]

Cuz u can't change the stat on proto gear...

[slate basin]

You preferrably want as many multipliers to damage as you can, don't have the Damage calculation image at hand, but you can Reconfigure DtTooC on your weapon unless it is Prototyped, which with bad stat roll is unlikely better than maxed High-End

[subtle bluff]

Just farm for another.

Proto doesn't make it special

[upper rover]

... It does

[subtle bluff]

nor is first bloom good either

No, it doesn't.

[upper rover]

Rn my proto first bloom outdmgs perfect Lexington so yeah it absolutely does

[subtle bluff]

What do you have on lex?

[upper rover]

Killer

[slate basin]

That will be very content dependant.

[subtle bluff]

So how do you know lex is doing more?

[flint arch]

Proto can fix a lot of things but wrong stats/talents and weapon shortcomings are not those

[upper rover]

I go shooting range I shoot I see higher dps

[subtle bluff]

Ya and that range counter doesn't work correct

[slate basin]

Shooting range from my personal experience is inaccurate at best

[upper rover]

Well there's not rly a better test

[flint arch]

the dps meter in the range is so bad that it's not even good for a rough idea of what your dps will be. you can manipulate it to make even the most anti-synergistic build in existence show the same number with a standard striker build

the better way to test is to take every single stat you have into account and manually calculate your dps

[subtle bluff]

Yes, there's a DPS calc in the Pinned Messages

[upper rover]

Ig

Will have to do it tmr, but does it already account for proto perks?

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[upper rover]

Alright

[slate basin]

Have seen shooting range DPS decrease going from Something like Eyeless to Frenzy when testing some LMGs
You can more accurately assess builds by doing controlled tests say start of some Legendary missions that have static spawns and doing same/similar opener and see which clears faster.

[upper rover]

Also is it worth going equalizer over ceska that gives crit that I definitely need, it can't be right?

[upper rover]

So is or is it not

[slate basin]

Depends on your Watch levels, if they are low and you don't have the 10% crit from there yet, Ceska can patch that need nicely

[upper rover]

Yeah I went cd first so it's kinda pain like I would have 60% chc almost always if I had chc watch

[slate basin]

Equaliser also has the 5% Fire rate from brand, so is factor aswell

[upper rover]

Hm that's true, idk what would my crit be rn I have 50 chc, so I don't mind coyotes, but I could maybe switch something to chc still

[subtle bluff]

RoF isn't worth more than the CHC for brandset

but it helps is with 4% TWD

[slate basin]

To figure out the best ratio of CHC and CHD you multiply them together for each set of them, then pick the one that gives you highest amount

[upper rover]

Also from what tier is striker chest just better, like I could probably max stack it on t3, but idk if worth, dmg wise probably, comfy wise idk, depends on mission probably

[slate basin]

I personally swap to strikers chest on T5/6 escalation

[upper rover]

Also i wanted to do a TS build but I only got 2 technically 3 pieces if I count the chest, not sure about using it yet, with crit is it worth using non crit 4th proto piece or normal but with crit?

[subtle bluff]

THe build is the same as striker

[upper rover]

That was not the question. It was about using non crit proto gear or crit normal gear

[exotic talon]

fox's prayer over overdogs

[iron geode]

Thoughts on running hollow man with tipping scales?

[prisma agate]

For running a pestilence build mainly solo, would CoCo still be worth running or something like TS?

[subtle bluff]

Not worth

[subtle bluff]

In the build hub there's a guide for pesti

[cobalt ravine]

What should I add to this build

[exotic talon]

first you should remove the chest and gloves
then you should replace the mask, back and holster attributes with crit chance and damage
then add obliterate chest and overdogs

it aint proto, but its good enough

[solar sable]

@cobalt ravine and @neat vector
check the Lvl40 Starters Guide please

[steel elbow]

Could someone tell me a good DPS build what has good defense

[grizzled loom]

I mean heartbreaker is usually the go to for dps with defense

You can double your armor and get double damage

[steel elbow]

I'm going to trust you because I'm new

[grizzled loom]

Well it depends on what you’re looking for

Striker is the meta for pure dps but it lacks defense

[steel elbow]

I'm trying to stay away from for my first time

[grizzled loom]

Stay away from what

[steel elbow]

Meta

[grizzled loom]

Well I mean heartbreaker is kinda the meta for dps with defense

[steel elbow]

Ohh

[grizzled loom]

So it’s hard to say if you don’t want the meta

[steel elbow]

I guess that's what I'm going to have to go with

Thx you for your time

[upper yew]

finally got a lengmo piece with 2 red sub stats

I need one more tho to ge tthe lmg dmg brand bonus

do I replace "salvo" or "fox's kneepads" tho I cant decide

[smoky latch]

What build?

[upper yew]

pestilence

[smoky latch]

Salvo should not be on a Pestilence build

[upper yew]

why not extra fire rate means faster stack application ?

[smoky latch]

Show your build

[upper yew]

gimme a sec

although now I see why I am prob gonna grind for a 2 sub red core lengmo holster so I can re-equip contractor gloves

[subtle bluff]

You want overdogs.. There's a guide for pesti if you follow the Pinned Messages to the build hub

[smoky latch]

End goal

[upper yew]

I know but I got its blueprint and it wants 35 turret defense part something

[smoky latch]

Transform broken SHD watches into those

You can do that via the crafting table, bottom right tab

[upper yew]

oh wait I had enough watches

nvm just crafted an overdog

[smoky latch]

5 watches = 15 automated defense parts

[upper yew]

what brands are the mask and holster ?

adn the kneepads

[smoky latch]

Lol Lengmo

[solar sable]

lengmo and Overlord knees*

[smoky latch]

Kneepads are Fox's Prayer

[upper yew]

ok

so back to lengmo grind.... again 😭

[smoky latch]

Grind Lengmo for a bit and then change your TL. You will usually still get some pieces and maybe you get luckier than straight up farming it as TL

[solar sable]

4k res

[tepid mantle]

what you guys think is the best solo build for solo t1-5

[subtle bluff]

W/e you're best at.

[upper yew]

should I change the sacrifice for a glass cannon talented petrov chestpiece ? I am gonna get %10 lmg dmg from 1pc petrov in exchange for losing 5% glass cannon damage. or unless glass cannon's %5 is worth more than petrov's 10% ?

[solar sable]

Glass is an amp and LMG DMG is SWD so... GC is worth

[upper yew]

ok thanks

[upper yew]

I ain't readin all that

[subtle bluff]

You'll read what we type

[smoky latch]

Obey

[solar sable]

is this a cult now

[upper yew]

🥲

[subtle bluff]

There is no right or wrong answer due to what you're trying to do.

The difference are in the numbers above.

[upper yew]

someone make the suffering end

[brazen oak]

just wanna make sure this is good for striker builds before i put it in library

talent is bewildered btw

lmk what i should change that to (if i even should)

[gentle lichen]

Nah turmoil is not very good on most builds you put it on

But keep it nonetheless

[brazen oak]

prolly just wear it for now since the only other knee pads i had were striker and one of its attribtues was kinda ass so

better to be just wearing 4/4 instead of 5/4 with a bad attribute

[tawdry raven]

whats better for escal tier 10?

[amber mortar]

Is the tac m249 para same base as mk46 ?

[tawdry raven]

i think

[lunar imp]

health damage no?

[subtle bluff]

The meta is in the Striker Guide for your question.

[onyx cypress]

Excuse me can anyone provide some advice for my oneshot build I have 459.3 hsd and can not one shot named elite enemies

[urban latch]

Do you have headhunter on the chest?

[onyx cypress]

Yes

[onyx cypress]

Thank you but i have one more question?

Is it possible that the game can't register hsd over 350% ? Because I'm experimenting a little and o had to lower my hsd damage from 459.3% to 358.2% and now I'm one tapping named elites

But still hitting the same numbers I'm so cunfused

[subtle bluff]

There is no HSD cap

There a visual bugs with the seasonal modifiers and/or GE's

[shy basalt]

re: escalations, I read that the meta for high tier escalations 4-man is FI+strikers

friend and I are coming back to try it out, are there any alternate sets that perform relatively decent for a duo setup? I assume FI is not as good if you're not in a 4-stack?

we probably won't be pushing high tier initially, and I'm not a speedrunner so i don't really need everything to be the best of the best

[onyx cypress]

Ok I thought so I'm still a little confused as to why lowering my hsd changed what was wrong tho

But anyway can anyone help farm turmoil with me

[subtle bluff]

Duo is just both strikers. Just make sure you have the active modifiers for OC

[subtle bluff]

Use your LFG channel for that.

[onyx cypress]

Sorry still leaving this

[shy basalt]

any other sets that would work reasonably well ? I'm okay with a 10-20% less damage just to try some new stuff

strikers is boring and burnt me out last time

[onyx cypress]

Learning

[subtle bluff]

You can use really w/e till about T4-T5 then you'll just be behind the DPS.

[obsidian crane]

I am trying to find out where to farm for Unit Alloy but I don't see the icon on the map? I am new to Div2 sorry

[hazy steeple]

@obsidian crane Yeah there's too many loot options to fit all the daily loot available now.
So the devs added the ability to pick the loot you want, when you play Countdown/Summit/Retaliation.

[finite crescent]

What does FI mean?

[subtle bluff]

Future Initiative gearset.

[steep wedge]

Tipping scales maybe?

[buoyant perch]

1. Striker chest blows everything else out the water, including TS

2. Striker gets more mileage from prototyping than TS so the gap is even bigger

[steep wedge]

I use equalizer and I deal competitive damagr with TS but okay. I do agree striker gets more from proto

[subtle bluff]

Without Proto, Striker Chest is a bit over 20% more overall dmg than TS.

[steep wedge]

I thought the striker meta build wasnt using striker chest

[smoky latch]

Depends on the activity

[subtle bluff]

Aren't we talking about escalation meta?

[smoky latch]

Yeah TS can't keep up

[dim fox]

So I am fiddling around with Tinkerers and a Frenzy + Measured GR9 but I cant make it deal any meaningful damage, I feel like I'm falling for bait trying to make this work lol

the GR9 with gunner has like 350 ammo mag and trying to dump it so Frenzy works is a chore and three clips leaves me entirely out of ammo lol.

[smoky latch]

Too much ammo for Frenzy

You use TS, right?

[dim fox]

Yeah, tried Striker but TS ended up way better...neither felt particularly good though I think the GR9 is the problem but everyone recommends it..

[smoky latch]

Is this build meant for Escalations?

[shut kindle]

GR9 is good because handling, you always want frenzy as a talent on LMG, The GR9 DOESNT want the increased mag size

[smoky latch]

I get 260 rounds with TS

[shut kindle]

If you don't like the GR9, MK46 is better

[hexed steppe]

gr9 frenzy with 200 mag should line up well on striker, even with +measured

[smoky latch]

Yup

[dim fox]

I think that I might try Strained for the extra crit damage, would be nice seeing uber high crit damage multi when combined with TS anyway lol

[shut kindle]

Strained is ass

High level content you want frenzy on LMGs measured on basically anything else

Killer if solo

[hexed steppe]

crit damage on so much crit damage is just kinda meh

better with measured

[dim fox]

I'm not uber endgame, trying to push t6 Esc a highly tuned lengmo Pesti build got me to t5 easily but is struggling now so I'm trying to optimise a LMG tinkerer build to go further but it feels kinda ass tbh lol

Ill try the MK46 with frenzy/measured but if that dont work Ill probably ditch and go generic Chameleon Striker lol RIP build diversity

[smoky latch]

You should really look at Striker's for T6 and higher

[shut kindle]

Chameleon striker isn't that good, meta is mk46 frenzy striker

It makes the content feel easy tbh

Use contractors gloves also, they're easy to farm for and the extra potential they give is nuts

[smoky latch]

This for instance

[shut kindle]

Contractors better than overdogs if you're using mk46 NGL

[dim fox]

Thats with overdogs though right? Not Tink?

[steep wedge]

Yeah its kinda annoying. I use TS + Big al with equalizer and overdogs for T6. Might not be meta but whatever I top dps from time to time

[shut kindle]

People obsessed with overdogs, but if you do the maths they're basically on par with contracts for MK46

[smoky latch]

Or sth like this is you want to or have to switch to Birdie's often

[shut kindle]

Why tf would you use that and not striker BP

[smoky latch]

What?

~3% higher damage when up

[dim fox]

Thats really interesting

I kinda hate overdogs lol 😛

[smoky latch]

But it's not correct

[shut kindle]

Someone did the maths on it, it's correct

Ill see if I can find it for you

[smoky latch]

Show me pls

[buoyant perch]

That someone did the math wrong

[dim fox]

Does that math work just side by side or also including an alternate exotic like tinkerer?

[subtle bluff]

Show math

[shut kindle]

Side by side. But either way the main issue I have with overdogs is that it's not reliable, you're basically gambling with hoping a tanky enemy isn't rushing you

[subtle bluff]

you mean the rusher?

[smoky latch]

I kill everything before it rushes me lol

[subtle bluff]

The rusher are on the bottom tier... So it's not that.

[hybrid pelican]

holy mid🥀 - this is much better

[shut kindle]

That's a lot of armour cores

[subtle bluff]

The build isn't hold you back as much as you think. Knowledge and gameplay are more important

[smoky latch]

Did you find that calculation yet?

[subtle bluff]

INF has seen that with me.

Pretty sure I can't anymore.

[dim fox]

My issue with overdogs is when there is a spawned something hidden behind cover for half the fight lol

[shut kindle]

I CBA, I had a quick look for it and decided I CBA to find it, about to go into work, I might look for it later if you're around

[steep wedge]

Think is why I sometimes do great with TS even on escal ]: I guess. Just want to use something else rhan strikers lol

[smoky latch]

You used Overdogs, I didn't. Another pro Overdogs

[subtle bluff]

But you also had exp 30 LMG and proto gear I only had lex and hollow proto. My lmg isn't even exp

[smoky latch]

Yup

[subtle bluff]

So the issues with TS on +T6 is that when you lose stacks you'll lose all of them too quickly.

If you get shocked, go down, reposition etc etc. where you're not shooting TS will lose out it's stacks vs striker.

[dim fox]

my issue is I keep switching to quickstep so I loose stakcs anyway rofl bad habbits

[subtle bluff]

Switching weapons doesn't drop stacks.

[smoky latch]

That happens with some weapon talents but not with the set talents

[steep wedge]

I agree. I do t6 but its annoying with the shocks. I do like the sustain TS gives you and building stacks is trivial.

Hopefully a new set of modifiers don't cc us that way lol

[exotic talon]

what the hell is this

[subtle bluff]

Striker still does more overall due to chest being able to stack that high.

[steep wedge]

Yeap.

[subtle bluff]

To get 0 to max on TS isn't it like 8s of shooting?

I need to make a showcase of striker vs ts..

[shy willow]

idk how exactly long but it feels like years

i really dont like it vecause of the stacking mechanic but at the top end it does compete

[steep wedge]

Im not sure tbh but I also prefire and with supression I'm almost always full

W/e tho I know strikers is king for Escal I just don't want to use strikers for everything

[smoky latch]

How's that for your ammo count in T6 with sponge NPCs?

[steep wedge]

I mean I don't prefire a lot. But it does help stacking when I know the encounter is about to start. After it I'm mostly full due to Supression

[shy willow]

to be fair if you bring a cooler its a non issue but then you rob yourself of a secondary

[smoky latch]

Nah prefiring with TS in T6+Escalations doesn't work

[hybrid pelican]

oh yknow..

[smoky latch]

You'll be out of ammo faster than a Striker's player with Frenzy

[shy willow]

ts just takes ages to stack and drops very fast after you stop shooting its very annoying to use imo

[steep wedge]

Well that's how it works for me. I don't just smash the fire tho. I also only have run T6 so what do I know

[smoky latch]

I ran out of ammo today in museum on T10

The Vietnam room

[subtle bluff]

I think it's my only issues with carrying noobs without a having exp and some proto gear..

[smoky latch]

I have proto and ran out. They didn't do any dmg

[subtle bluff]

Even more issues I mean.

[steep wedge]

Is there a type of non pvp activity Strikers ain't meta or the best? 💀

Buh build diversity

[hybrid pelican]

Clearing heroic and below fast - 1886 build

[steep wedge]

Fair, but depressing

[hybrid pelican]

If you are looking for fun - fire eclipse build and learn all the spawns in all the missions

[gentle lichen]

Negotiator's arguably has better clear times than striker in normal open world activities where you don't really dps check anything

[shy willow]

People forget striker is overkill for a fair bit of content

Just happens to be easy to build and use

[full karma]

For beginning players building up their first good build is difficult. I am happy experienced players are willing to help me to get some better gear so I can participate. Too bad there is still a negative attitude to starting players without a perfect build or 2...

[solar sable]

that's lame of that percentage of people, we all started the same so why tf are you hating on new players?

[surreal elk]

can someone explain to me how the scorpio works? How do i know i have applied the 20% debuff?

[subtle bluff]

But it also depend on the content you're doing. If you're doing like end game content on a build that isn't ready for is that right to bring to that content?

[exotic talon]

9 hits on the same enemy, count em

[surreal elk]

like that? Thats a lot

[exotic talon]

six12 has a decent firerate and you get crowd control effects at intervals

[subtle bluff]

Oh crap this is wrong...

[solar sable]

make it 8

and 9th refreshes

[full karma]

True, I join Friends (experienced players) to do the missions to get prototype gear on level 3. I do often 50% or less of their damage but we make it. I don't dare to join a public matchmaking yet.

[subtle bluff]

It procs on 8 and the 9th refreshes it?

[solar sable]

IIRC yes

[upper rover]

which dps calc has proto stuff, i can't find it

[smoky latch]

Don't think there is one

[subtle bluff]

Too much work to make with all of it. You have to manually do it.

[full karma]

Simple question about Striker gear, I see on youtube different tips about the cores, some say red and other say blue. Some say striker vest others say unit alloyes. Some say Ninja backpack and others say Memento or Overdogs gloves.
What is a good starters stiker setup for player with low SHD levels?

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Messages there a starter guide, within the gearsheet build hub you'll find other guides explaining it all.

[full karma]

Thanks, and AR weapon Lexington or Chameleon or St Elmo?
As second I use an SMG

[exotic talon]

can we pin this specific striker build instead of the entire guide, for when someone comes asking for a build

[subtle bluff]

I've working on a overview again

[exotic talon]

lex is great but police m4 is nearly identical with negligibly lower damage
chameleon is good* as long as you can proc its buffs which takes ages, and statistically its an smg so you need to be much closer to the enemy
elmo is so widespread because its statistically solid with a big magazine and free shock rounds

[subtle bluff]

Generally they won't pin those too.

The rest of the question I'll point the the guide

[subtle bluff]

Ya, I don't see this. 9th is still buff..

[full karma]

Ah I am still a from a distance player so range is still important for me.

[exotic talon]

give elmo a shot, it has decent range and good handling

[full karma]

CHC and CHD vs DTTooC depends on weapons for Striker build?

[upper rover]

anyone using buildstation? why does it ignore dth from weapon

[smoky latch]

?

[exotic talon]

you always want dtoc on the weapon

[digital tusk]

Question, when did the change to the striker meta happened? I've still been using Ceska & Coyote mask 😭

[subtle bluff]

It's changed when Overdogs then Equalizer came in

[digital tusk]

I see. I had a feeling Equalizer would be a good replacement for Ceska, tho I didn't really do much testing with it

[full karma]

My St Elmo has weapon damage, health damage and rate of fire.
So finding a better one is easier then spending resources to redo the attributes?

[smoky latch]

You can re-roll exotics

[digital tusk]

Ngl rerolling is more convenient then target farming for the same exotic for the chance of getting the one attribute you want

[exotic talon]

investor has entered the chat

[upper rover]

what builds use turmoil?

[smoky latch]

Headhunter Builds

[exotic talon]

is there any way to make the deflector shield viable as an offensive skill

[long dove]

am i unlucky i been running countdown/retal with lengmo targeted for so long all i got is 1 backpack with chc/chd

[full karma]

Thanks, I rerolled St Elmo till I got dtoc on it. Striker with St Elmo/Overdogs/Equalizer beats my previous setup with dps.

[misty crane]

I'm still fairly "new" to the game and the HB+Memento build is what is helping me go through every bit of heroic/legendary content. So far my most fav build for solo

[topaz skiff]

Does the echo augment also stack from your other guns as well as gear pieces or only for that gun

E.g is there a point trying to roll it on my quickstep

[buoyant perch]

Only for that gun

[solar sable]

only 7 slots and holstered weapons dont count

[exotic talon]

i mean theres a point because you never know when youre gonna need your pistol to do work
but it wont help with your primary or secondary

they are quite usable when you have headhunter or striker stacks

[long sapphire]

Quickstep is to me the only real usable sidearm.
Helps tremendously in retals when moving fast.

[exotic talon]

not the kind of usability i was talking about, and also movement speed isnt always better than a free skill tier or The Harvest
and regulus exists

[olive abyss]

How many yellow cores do you need when you prototype all six pieces to have 6 tier?

[smoky latch]

4

[olive abyss]

Yeah right just 3 yellows. Thats gold

[smoky latch]

Typo, needs 4

[olive abyss]

Oh 4! Does that include the +1 for specialisation?