td2-build-advice

[fierce ether]

Guys, why is memento good with striker and assault rifles in general? I mean u need to be perma moving collecting the trophies, not? If i played close combat like SMG i would understand it but with assault dumno why is so good

Smg or shotguns* for example

[onyx sage]

you don't have to constantly get them. it has a short term portion and a long term portion. the long term portion is the only part people care about keeping up

the long term portion lasts for 5 minutes. after each encounter you should either have finished it within 5min or gone looking for a trophy, but after getting one the timer refreshes back to 5min

[vernal wing]

WOAH B&F on ACS12 is new tech 😱

[fierce ether]

Oh i didnt know that ty for the info mate, and with striker build to stack fast the set, is better as secondary GR9 with frenzy or a acs12 with maybe fast hands talent?

I am running gr9 with frenzy and it feels good tbh

[onyx sage]

if you're using striker chest, consider whether it's worth using for the current content. it's not really practical outside of incursion and escalation

if you are then acs is the best choice but you can also build it organically by shooting normally

if you aren't then you don't need to worry about stacking faster

[wanton root]

Which one is better, Lexi or Caretaker?

[onyx sage]

lex

[subtle bluff]

Lex

[fierce ether]

And best talent for acs12 to farm it? Fast hands?

[flint arch]

lexingtaker

[onyx sage]

either brazen or back and forth

[flint arch]

nah just run pvgc striker in escalation, 0 problems foreseen

/j

[onyx sage]

i mean i do that

[subtle bluff]

we

I used HE DPS for 1

[flint arch]

idfk how I managed to get this many kills here

[subtle bluff]

Carry me

[flint arch]

no sir

[subtle bluff]

I'm washed

[flint arch]

but im washed too sir

[hazy steeple]

Kinda seems like everyone pulled their weight pretty well.

[weak quail]

Im more worried about the 35 revives

[subtle bluff]

It's Teir 10

[weak quail]

Oh

[hazy steeple]

Shh, it's funnier if people think it's Tier 0.

[subtle bluff]

corrupting the context 😮

[weak quail]

Average randoms on legendary be like

[flint arch]

T10, but also I adopt a different playstyle when I play with him, in that I will just bum rush everyone with PVGC Striker and die 204992 times because he has infinite revive hives and I have zero self-preservation

[junior lagoon]

what was your build?

[flint arch]

sir, its spelled Tier

[weak quail]

If it works it works, when i run birdie bag i told my friend to play aggresively next to me for free overcharges so i understand

[flint arch]

suboptimal crap

[solar sable]

mid

[flint arch]

even core strength would be better fr fr

[solar sable]

3pc strikers, 2pc CS and NBB meta

[flint arch]

what the

[weak quail]

Only one green? Smh just like the randoms i play countdown with || jokes, i saw your prototypes, unlike them ||

[weak quail]

I like NBB for my alt characters as it’s always “random bs go” with them

[flint arch]

I still need dien to teach me the ways of a frenzied LMG

[onyx sage]

if i knew the ways, but sure

[flint arch]

sir

[solar sable]

average would've said yes straight away

WHERE IS HE?!

[flint arch]

tears in the rain

[junior lagoon]

should have used ninja backpack

[onyx sage]

so true

[flint arch]

[grand girder]

bro died in 2004

[flint arch]

I find it so funny how versatile PVGC Striker is

[hazy steeple]

Didn't even get to see the Doom movie. Shame.

[untold fulcrum]

Can Dark Winter drop in escalation?

[hazy steeple]

Dark Winter is "DZ locked", so it's either DZ, Conflict, Named Item Caches, or you can get the blueprint from Reconstructed Caches, but that last one is a real RNG field.

The Countdown Vendor can also have it, but not Countdown itself.

[grand girder]

houndsman can also drop it if you can find lobbys

[jaunty surge]

On M249 LMG, final roll is CHD or DTA better?

[untold fulcrum]

While it can drop from open-world activities, the highest chances are from Named Caches, DZ vendors, and Summit/Countdown target loot.

[flint arch]

CHC

[jaunty surge]

Huh? Why CHC?

I'm already at 55%. Don't need CHC.

[flint arch]

means you can invest more in CHD elsewhere

[jaunty surge]

Hmmm, I hear that.

[ocean wyvern]

CHC on gun allows more CHD on gear

[flint arch]

I hate you

[grand girder]

decon it

[shut kindle]

I did craft and prototype like 100 of them hence the inventory

Also got this, not as good but a decent backup

[flint arch]

jsusirokwbrhklwwjlwalsjrieierh

[ocean wyvern]

@flint arch are you just looking for a proto Frenzy LMG?

[hazy steeple]

Those auto-generated passwords sure are weird.

[flint arch]

I'm more focused on fully prototyping my PVGC Striker first

[grand girder]

password is the strongest password change my mind

[flint arch]

abc123

[grand girder]

lol i forgot automod rules oopsies

[shut kindle]

I hope we get striker or TS esc soon

[flint arch]

core strength TL will be a disaster

[hazy steeple]

Striker was there on day 1 for TL, so it may be a minute for it to show up again.

[smoky latch]

I just get fuggin' increased SWD on mine

[shut kindle]

Apart from no one could log in so barely

[smoky latch]

I'm cursed prototyping Measured ARS :>

[shut kindle]

My lex measured is decent

[smoky latch]

Yeah the DTOC is really nice

[shut kindle]

It's ok, idk if health would have been better, those chungas are so tanky

[smoky latch]

I'd be happy with DtH and DTOC increase

SWD I don't care about much, Striker's has enough

[shut kindle]

Yeah all my strikers is crit chance secondary maxed weapon damage

I'm at 59.5% crit chance with 140% crit damage.

And obviously insane weapon damage stats, it's like 240% or something to the lmg

[drifting zealot]

Hey. I'm playing a one-shot build. Or at least I wanted to start. I put it together according to the video, and aside from the fact that in the video the weapon level is 13 and mine is 7, everything is the same. Headshot damage is even higher thanks to the season. However, in the video, the damage is around 35-50 million, but mine isn't even 20 million. It's hard to play with Kitsumi and named heroes. Anyone play/have played this and can help? Thanks.

[smoky latch]

4 of my Striker proto pieces have increased WD... Another L

[junior lagoon]

theoretically yes , i have seen dark zone exclusives drop

[shut kindle]

Honestly idk what rolls are best

[smoky latch]

You wanna make sure you balance your damage buckets, not that one is a crazy high value while other's are too low ~

[junior lagoon]

you gotta pay for that chc/chd matador

[smoky latch]

Just craft it if your RNG shows you the middle finger from drops

[rocky egret]

Hold on, how do overdogs work then

[onyx sage]

@balmy geyser so the thing is 20% weapon damage is added to a massive pool of weapon damage you already have, and at 0 expertise you already have 230% of it. (1 base + 90% from 6 red + 15% from gun + 15% from spec tree + 10% from watch bonus)

which is why 20% from 2p UA is only 8.6% increase overall, because the 20% adds to that big multiplier already

overdogs is 30% amp, amp means it's a unique multiplier, so if 100% uptime then the effective increase is 30%, half uptime is 15% etc.

[junior lagoon]

i dont have the bp. but i have one with chc and headshot, does the job for now

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[onyx sage]

https://discordapp.com/channels/477210626742288384/489468635333656576/1464884253958340739

this is the infographic, basically tier 3 is very big, it's highly likely it will be a more readily available tier for you to target

[balmy geyser]

right. I follow. And yea. when you put it like that, it makes more sense.

Amazing breakdown btw, you managed to get me, someone who's currently on a whole bag.. and no sleep for 24 hours in.. about 3 hours.. to understand perfectly.

[onyx sage]

of course, feel free to ask away

[balmy geyser]

Side note, when you made that calculation, did you also take into consideration that im a lazy mfkr?

[onyx sage]

lol

[balmy geyser]

That may or may not change the result lmao

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message
Stronger version overall. IDK what video you watched but it might have been during an event

[balmy geyser]

Ive been far too lazy to look this up, but which talent would you recommend having on the AR on a striker build?

Ive been lazy and running tech with the tech laser and then flatline, but im certain there's a better option.

[rocky egret]

I have a question, the striker lextingon build with linked laser im running used to get me around 14m dps in the range when the cherry event first started, and not its at around 10mil at best, i still run the same global modifiers, and the exact same build nothing has changed, any shadow damage patch im unaware of or is the range just inaccurate?

[onyx sage]

measured and back and forth are the top 2 general use options right now, if you wanna go higher you'll need some further constraints on your build

[onyx sage]

the range is inaccurate yes

[rocky egret]

Makes sense thanks mate

[onyx sage]

a google sheet you can use to quickly calculate your dps, just needs 4 numbers you can get in game

[balmy geyser]

hey thats the same build ive been running haha

[rocky egret]

Oh this is gold

[rocky egret]

Yeah its my go to usually, with flatline on lexington, also i sometimes put on the turmoil kneepads to deal with squads faster during solo missions

[balmy geyser]

So, for someone who's generally damn near clueless, for me to guess this out all by myself, I didn't do half bad then

But if I wanna run Gunner, Measured does indeed sound fun.

[rocky egret]

Yeah, would be even better if you had ninja backpack, and then combine 3 strikers with 2 unit alloys, to get 50% magazine size, then you could use both lexi and st elmos as your weapons, enough mag to kill anyone without reloading id say

[balmy geyser]

I LITERALLY tried this today 😂 are you kidding

[rocky egret]

Lmao, i need these prototypes man

[balmy geyser]

This is the mask i got during the Striker targeted loot, granted the drop chance was abysmally bad... so beggars cant be chosers..

and i just realized I can level it up again haha

[rocky egret]

Not bad rolls from escalation, i keep getting attributes I dont need

[balmy geyser]

This is the cursed BP that absolutely REFUSES to give me Echo

[onyx sage]

ignore this if you just wanna mess around with builds but ninjabike on striker doesn't really give you the most damage, 3p UA doesn't increase your burst DPS but your mag damage, and missing out on the backpack talent is missing a big chunk of your damage

[balmy geyser]

(hence why I went back to my current setup)

[rocky egret]

Yeah thats true, the 0.90 does a lot, but what about the chest piece, is equalizer better or not, considering you lose 100 stacks

[balmy geyser]

Plus, I would really really really like to have at least 3 pieces with Echo

[onyx sage]

striker chest is quite hard to use realistically cuz it's harder to get there and even harder to maintain, realistically you only use it in incursion or escalation

[balmy geyser]

I had this internal conflict as well.. But only in certain situations do you really get the full 200

[rocky egret]

Thts what I thought about, when do i ever reach the 200, good to know

Also does anyone know what is the best dps build combined with PFE?

[balmy geyser]

Maybe im not so clueless after all.

Nevermind.. wtf is PFE?

[rocky egret]

Protection from elites

[balmy geyser]

Ah...

I'd say a build that already has plenty of CHC+CHD. And/or perhaps skill builds.

[rocky egret]

If you can get around 70+ % you take pretty much no damage even from hunters, but its hard to combine with good dps unless im overlooking something

[balmy geyser]

I think its definitely a "this or that" situation.

Best bet would perhaps be to use Chameleon where you get a lot of crit chance and damage..But it's guesswork at best.

[rocky egret]

Cause the pfe only come in gear mods and global modifiers, so with around 4 mods and 22% from global you could get 66-72% PFE but that would mean you use the chillout mask for the extra gear mod and lose on CHC or CHD and headshot damage you would get from global modifiers instead

[balmy geyser]

Definitely a trade off, yea.

As they say, enemies cant hurt you if they're dead.

[rocky egret]

Aye mate 😆

[balmy geyser]

Plus, healers can rarely keep you from getting one shot anyway.. So you might as well go full glass cannon xD

[urban latch]

headshot damage doesnt make as big of a difference as what youd think with HH as long as your over 150%.

I'm guessing you watched a misleading/trash YT video. Check out the pinned google doc and read through the HH guide in there. 20 million is about what I expect from that build, so whatever you were watching was likely using team buffs to give misleadingly inflated numbers.

#1 change you should make on that build though it swap bloodsucker for vigilance

[balmy geyser]

The biggest issue ive faced while trying these HH builds is to get it started in harder content. I may or may not have had good enough gear at the time of trying tho.

@onyx sage As you're well versed, would you say that using gunner heavily outweighs Tech? In terms of dps? As far as I know, the only actual DPS increase is the 5% RoF no?

[foggy imp]

What’s the best method to farm for prototype Lexington and striker pieces

[balmy geyser]

Well..

[smoky latch]

you cannot farm for proto Lex. Striker's when it's up as targeted loot, otherwise upgrade your own gear

[balmy geyser]

I was just gonna say.. the answer will entirely Depend on your current EXP level haha

If you're not 30, like me. You're cooked.

[smoky latch]

You can be cooked if the proto upgrade doesn't go as hoped for 😬

I have way too much WD on my Striker's build when I need CHD. CBA to ugprade more of my gear

[foggy imp]

Yeah I’m only at 18. Was hoping I could farm to get the 30 but I’m cooked as well haha

[balmy geyser]

Yea sorry to break it to you mate, but unless you got a heart of steel and a whole storage of amphetamine, you wont see 30 anytime soon.

[onyx sage]

and gunner reload, but most importantly it's the armor on kill tbh, not really that much of damage increase

[balmy geyser]

Gotcha. Its something, but negligible.

[vernal wing]

Is concentrated company better in any raid encounter or escalation that striker?

[smoky latch]

No

[solar sable]

I highly doubt it since enemies have high health on Escalation and it will make stacking painful
Raids... not really, no

[inland hound]

@upbeat saffron sorry for late at, I was mid tier 6 run. This is what the setup looks like atm with the modifiers

[vernal wing]

On Boomer, do you need health or armor damage more?

[solar sable]

health, that's why Hollow Man is BiS

[rocky egret]

How do you get around tier 6 with no hazard or shock resistance? That modifier is hell

[vernal wing]

Does the entire health pool/armor plates count as health?

[solar sable]

red enemies/chungas/doggos are pure health, chungas have armor plates that act as health

[vernal wing]

Including boomer?

[solar sable]

where's that? 😆

[vernal wing]

The boss on DH in the room with the Miniguns

[urban latch]

DTA would apply on boomer

[solar sable]

OHHHH nope, he's just a big ass boss with armor

[flint arch]

smh my head

[rocky egret]

Id imagine armor, his armor plates take much longer to get off than his health, also for the dogs lucy and the other one, shoot their legs to deal damage straight to their health

[solar sable]

sir

[flint arch]

in this game, armor plates and armor are two very different things

[subtle bluff]

It's rather confusing don't feel bad.

[onyx sage]

like nigeria and niger

[flint arch]

also if you could deal direct health damage to buddy and lucy, it would be 5000% easier

due to the various factors involved

if they have armor the only way to bypass it is with the poison status effect. good luck applying that to a robot

[onyx sage]

poison resistance debuff shotgun when

[rocky egret]

You can bypass armor with poison?

[flint arch]

yes

[dreamy valve]

Self reminder to Prototype a TDI Kard

[fleet gulch]

Speaking of armor and health, how good is First Bloom for Strikers?

[smoky latch]

Overall not impressive, it's situational from what I've experienced

Seems alright on chungas

[flint arch]

if it wasn't a PDR it would probably see more use

unfortunately it is a PDR

[fleet gulch]

What's wrong with it being a PDR?

[lone glacier]

Missing one attachment slot for one

[onyx sage]

lower base, lower rpm, 1 less mod slot

it's not very competitive at the top end

[subtle bluff]

Base it's more.. It's the lower RPM that's really kills it

[fleet gulch]

Hmm I see. What about Invisible Hand? I imagine the rate of fire would be pretty good for Strikers.

[smoky latch]

Higher base than Lex

But the talent is meh

Gimmick item good for this event especially, otherwise alright on chungas I might say without fool-proof testing

[subtle bluff]

Go dump a mag of it and come tell us how that felt.

[flint arch]

slower fire rate than a police m4 and no damage talent

also its an AUG

[subtle bluff]

At +20m

[subtle bluff]

To a degree on paper Invisible hand isn't too bad but it's handling is.... I'd rather use TKB-408......... 🤮

[flint arch]

an AUG
more like AUGHHH

[lone glacier]

#BuffAK

[chilly steeple]

sad that the aug sucks cause i love the model 😔

[flint arch]

I wish the chameleon wasn't a total liar because I like how it looks

[fleet gulch]

On a different note, is Pestilence Strikers good? I see a lot of people use that in randoms.

[flint arch]

striker will not contribute to pesti ticks

[smoky latch]

It is not. Striker's doesn't do anything for Pestilence's ticks and for raw DPS you have better HE LMGs with damage talent

[fleet gulch]

What's the deal with Pestilence then? It seems popular / desired.

[subtle bluff]

It's funny it did get one in TU22

[lone glacier]

Needs more obviously

[smoky latch]

It's great solo and useful in group play to get NPCs out of cover

But you need the right build for it

[fleet gulch]

Hmm what does that build look like?

[subtle bluff]

Build Hub, there's a guides.

[smoky latch]

Check the spreadsheet pinned in this channel, it has a Pestilence guide

[flint arch]

I need my fix of PVGC Striker

[inland hound]

Just moving around constantly lol I just strafe behind cover

[rocky egret]

How were your drops? Played t5 and 6 last night didnt get a single one, and tomorrow they’re removing protos from caches..

[inland hound]

Uh like 5+ most runs then a few 1-2 only

[rocky egret]

Alright was just unlucky then, are the rolls generally better on higher tiers tho?

[drowsy escarp]

Does anyone have any tips on a strong status effects build? I have a fair few exotics/gear pieces. Thank you

[inland hound]

Not really I've noticed all my rolls are trash (I guess it's just my luck) but people have gotten God rolls. Not me though

[flint arch]

eclipse protocol

[minor grove]

So I am assuming anyone who prototyped the salvo got the rate of fire increase lol

[subtle bluff]

For named it's always that stats.

[minor grove]

thats cool but also like not cool

[subtle bluff]

Why not?

[smoky latch]

7.5% after proto, biiiig gains lol

[gentle lichen]

is stoner that good compared to gr9 or other lmgs?

[smoky latch]

You can watch grass grow while emptying an ammo box. It's not in my top picks

Mag and sustain good, burst not at all
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?usp=drivesdk

[subtle bluff]

EHHH.. Just super low RPM deal.

[gentle lichen]

i was more interested in the mag damage it has to pair with OD

[gentle lichen]

yeah thats what caught my eye

[patent fossil]

Carnage exists though

[gentle lichen]

stoner can use tink though...

[patent fossil]

overdogs though

[hazy geode]

anyone know the best way to get memento

fast

[normal shadow]

Either Retaliations (blueprint) or Countdown.

[hazy geode]

no one does outcast retals D:

[solar sable]

it's the easiest faction to deal with imo

[patent fossil]

3 main ways, all rng-dependent to some level: target farm backpacks (countdown or retaliations) and also open the exotic caches you get, farm the blueprint and craft it, or use priority objectives to farm random exotics

[soft crane]

oh yeah it is, they crowd controlled themselves most of the times

[hazy geode]

also is ravenous worth running with strikers

or core strength full damage bc its my fav exotic and I wanna run it

[soft crane]

no, need a different build for it

[subtle bluff]

Read how it works.
It’s only good when you’re using all of its niche talent to use.

[subtle bluff]

It doesn’t need a build nor use one.

[soft crane]

I mean, I got the specific build for it if he wants.

[hazy geode]

what is it

[vernal wing]

What does (p) mean?

[subtle bluff]

Pouch from Gunner. 50rds

[regal dock]

i got a question, im using striker build for sheriff with purist with centurion scabbard as the exo.
should i swap my equalizer chest piece with striker and use vigil for backpack for the perfect versatile talent?

[smoky latch]

Why would you use a shotgun, whose perk is unlimited range basically, with a gear piece that has limited range?

IMO it's a good secondary but it's not worth building around this shotgun. The reload time is too long to make constant good use of it

[regal dock]

im thinking of burst damaging, also using purist as well

because i haven't got a burst damage build, esp for bosses

[smoky latch]

For bosses, wouldn't you want sustained damage cuz bullet sponges?

[regal dock]

ehh, would be nice for a variety..
sure sustained dps is, nice but some variety

[smoky latch]

Technically the Sheriff is better for sustained damage than burst damage

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/edit?gid=1084511016#gid=1084511016

[subtle bluff]

Swapping build isn't great for bosses/sustain DPS.

[regal dock]

what would you suggest for improving it to say the least?

[subtle bluff]

Purist/Streamline burst isn't that special even tho clickbait will say otherwise

[regal dock]

i was thinking of using other gun but i suddenly thought about streamline and the 47% damage bonus when no skill on cooldown

only took it for a single spin so far, havent tried some retaliation with it

[smoky latch]

It's a trap

[smoky latch]

Have a read:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Division2/comments/1mq83hw/streamline_is_overrated_the_42_bonus_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

[regal dock]

btw what is the talent that gives you bonus when swapping between guns?

[subtle bluff]

what's the goal here other than not using, Striker, TS, ND etc..

[soft crane]

Back and Forth

[smoky latch]

Also, the talent is not active when a skill is active or on cooldown

The text ingame is wrong/incomplete

[regal dock]

noted, maybe i'll swap to back and forth

but, any guns you might recommend me swapping it to? aside from lexington because i missed the raining sakura keys and havent got one

[subtle bluff]

You didn't miss sakura keys. You can still get one.

[smoky latch]

Keep at it, the event is live for two more weeks

[subtle bluff]

I've gotten 2 and I've only been on th game for like 3 hours this past week.

[buoyant mulch]

what's the best talent on a lexington?

[regal dock]

here's hoping i can do it at thursday and friday...
work is ahhhh long

[smoky latch]

Always depends D:

[smoky latch]

Get a Police M4, which is a Lexington with 4% less base weapon damage. Very marginal difference.

[subtle bluff]

Killer solo, measured for most cases

[regal dock]

i barely get any kitsunebi encounter and barely time to play sadly ;w;

[subtle bluff]

Just keep traveling to missions they spawn.

[smoky latch]

They'll apparently increase the rates come tomorrow

[subtle bluff]

I don't want them and they spawn..

[smoky latch]

I don't want any more Lexingtons but I keep getting them... I just want exo components

[buoyant mulch]

measured i see..

[buoyant mulch]

i haven't gotten a single lexington and its making me angy

[smoky latch]

I'd give you a few in a heartbeat

[buoyant mulch]

ive gotten like 3 quicksteps and no lexingtons

[ocean wyvern]

but where are the stack brokers at 😭

[hallow arch]

Me with two of them:

[smoky latch]

If they would use stash space I would dismantle them lol

[hallow arch]

Speaking of which I should use them lol

[subtle bluff]

I'm so happy I can dismantle them now

[smoky latch]

I'm happy I could dismantle the Stack Brokers...

[subtle bluff]

The only thing I need to farm is that meh

[smoky latch]

You want a certain talent?

Fast Hands for RoF as 3rd attribute or something?

[buoyant mulch]

also why does this game and sakura keys hate me

[smoky latch]

You playing on heroic?

[buoyant mulch]

yeah

[smoky latch]

You should encounter them regularly. Sometimes two squads spawn

[buoyant mulch]

ive never seen two squads spawn yet, ive ran into the hunter though but they barely spawn now

[smoky latch]

Do something meaningful, after a while teleport to any mission, run around, trigger spawn, kill them, go back to doing something meaningful again, rinse and repeat

What works well is do two runs in NBA then fast travel to Tidal Basin and they'll spawn. Rinse and repeat

Maybe three runs if solo cuz it's faster

[vernal wing]

Is Sacrifice more damage than a maxed Chainkiller in a headshot build?

[smoky latch]

No lol

[vernal wing]

Do you know the damage comparison?

[smoky latch]

Here is your comparison

[flint arch]

The luck is insane

[smoky latch]

(P)HH works for one shot, (P)GC for any bullet you fire

What is that?

[flint arch]

striker mask

[smoky latch]

Nice!

[flint arch]

I'm just missing Sacrifice and I will have my PVGC Striker fully proto'd

Just 21 more goddamned exos

[smoky latch]

You using it in Escalations?

[flint arch]

Yes since I am too stubborn and lazy to use Striker chest

[smoky latch]

Lol ok

Making you suffer more for no reason 😄

[flint arch]

I like suffering

[smoky latch]

Tier 8-10 should not matter much anyway I guess

Hi@ insta health gate

[regal dock]

i got raeped by kitsunebi while doing CP alone.
god that was ass being pincered in a place with almost no effective cover

[smoky latch]

Happens

[subtle bluff]

I was getting ready to do Lincoln run and they jumped me there..

[smoky latch]

Hahaha

[regal dock]

here's the baseline ||also nice / cursed chinese numbers as level for a coincidence||

[lone glacier]

I'm so close to exp 30 so I can finally proto my full striker set..

[smoky latch]

Surprise, MF! 😄

[smoky latch]

I'd use an AR as primary and the Sheriff as secondary. For the future

Striker's good choice for it tho

[regal dock]

444 is a nice addition
also noted, I'll see what i can get.. pls lexington pls lexington pls lexington drop

[smoky latch]

Patience, you'll get one

[junior lagoon]

coyote's mask overrites the 60 percent chc right?

[smoky latch]

No

[junior lagoon]

so 25 crit chance useless?

[soft crane]

Not really. When you're using Coyote, your crit chance should be 50%.

[junior lagoon]

lowest i can go is 53.5

[smoky latch]

Yeah usually around 50/51%

Most likely fights happen in the middle range anyway

If you don't want limitations use 1pc GS

[hexed steppe]

yes, mid or close buff or use another item

better off with overdogs

[junior lagoon]

with iron lung tough to go down 50. with lexington fine

[flint arch]

prototyping my gear has completely screwed up my crit ratio

[junior lagoon]

lol i was switching from overdogs

[hexed steppe]

couldnt imagine why

[subtle bluff]

You're rarely gonna proc that one..

[lone violet]

Striker with sheriff ?

[hallow arch]

any opinions on the new gear set? I wanna see if it's usable lol

[shy willow]

mid at very best in pve, goated in pvp

[surreal elk]

does the future initiative require me to be at full armor to boost others damage or others need to be at full armor to have that damage buff?

[shy willow]

Those who are at full armour receive the buff

[surreal elk]

aw, thats a shame , oki

[smoky latch]

Alternatively you can also use an Alps chest with Empathic Resolve

It's time limited as condition

[surreal elk]

where would you put the 4th FI then? I like to run birdie, so gloves maybe?

[smoky latch]

Yeah ofc lol

[surreal elk]

i was expecting some judgment, lots of people like the btsu gloves and not the birdies

[smoky latch]

If it's not for Escalations, only use Birdie's if you need it, aka hot swap

[surreal elk]

and the empathetic resolve applies on any heal? including the chem launcher and hive right

[smoky latch]

Yes

[surreal elk]

yeah exactly what i dont like haha

[smoky latch]

For high tier Escalations BTSU is kinda useless - depending on the team. Might as well use Birdie's all the time

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what?

[lone wadi]

good for reset between encounters

[smoky latch]

Got no time to hot swap

[subtle bluff]

I mean people have rez hives

[smoky latch]

If you have a skilled team it's different

[subtle bluff]

and OC between stuff or at the start with Decoys is good.

[smoky latch]

I've seen bad things in mm

[lone wadi]

birdies is mostly competing with setup

[subtle bluff]

Hotswapping isn't that hard once you understand. Starting with BTSU Setup is better.

[smoky latch]

I do believe using Birdie's all the time when necessary is more effective

[subtle bluff]

Which is fair.

[lone wadi]

i agree with tis

[subtle bluff]

I've only seen like 1 good FI player.

[paper sluice]

what’s the best bluescreen build right now?

[smoky latch]

I remember also one dope healer, nobody ever died lol

[subtle bluff]

TS and ND

[chilly steeple]

i've looked into getting a healer build set up but it seems like you really have to learn how to play healer

it's not just equip it and shoot the shit, need good positioning and skill usage

[smoky latch]

However Mr Chow's guide above is the best general healer build

[subtle bluff]

IMO a good FI players knows how to heal but not spam there skills. OC when it's good time to and still debuff when they can.

[paper sluice]

tipping scales and ? sorry I haven’t really played that much

[subtle bluff]

Nego

[soft crane]

OC when all your teammates reviver hive are on cooldown.

[subtle bluff]

Or just 2 of them are downa and either teammate or comms with that teammate to drop their rez hive near the end of OC to have OC Rez down.

[smoky latch]

Bro with randoms in Escalations shit hits the fan really quick sometimes 😂

[paper sluice]

oh I see, is it just a full red build on tipping scales?

[subtle bluff]

both are gonna be using Equalizer and Overdogs

[paper sluice]

understood, tysm

[summer flax]

is this good enough for pestilence?

[smoky latch]

Ideally you want CHC but for a while DtA is fine if you adjust your crits

[summer flax]

i have 59% rn

[smoky latch]

And CHD?

[summer flax]

without TP buff is just 90%

[smoky latch]

True Patriot?

[summer flax]

tipping scales im sorry

[smoky latch]

Yeah that's fine!

[summer flax]

i see people hyping up the turmoil. whats ur thoughts?

[smoky latch]

Only really useful in HH builds. Solo/duo with AR/LMG up to heroic is fine, beyond that your TTK is ass

I'd rather recommend Negotiator's Dilemma

[soft crane]

Negotiator's Dilemma: Look what you need to mimic a fraction of my power.

[onyx sage]

so true

[summer flax]

i see

well i made it

Ok so what do i focus on next?

[soft crane]

Expertise I guess?

[summer flax]

and hoard printer fillerments

[soft crane]

If you want to dedicate yourself to grinding expertise, focus on Gearsets and Brandsets first. Once they're all done except Yaahl and System Corruption since those two sets are rarely found, look for someone who can host Houndsman bounty farm for named items. Once thats also done, farm gearmods and deconstruct every single one of them to get Printer Filaments, use it to donate stuffs that are difficult to be proficient in. Like skills or useless exotics for example.

[summer flax]

ok ill make a note of this thank you

[heady marten]

Hey! Gonna use the doc or sheet or whatever, but can I also get a quick tldr on a good skill build (drone/turret) setup? like gear pieces and exotic and whatever

[hazy steeple]

The spreadsheet builds have pictures as a quick reference point, it's gonna be fastest just to open it up.

[foggy oar]

4 piece refactor, exotic holster Waveform, named chestpiece Impetus basically

[hazy steeple]

Waveform?

[foggy oar]

it's 30% dmg no? unless u prefer force multiplier ig

[heady marten]

ive literally never touched skill builds outside of healing so id have to go get most of this stuff anyway besides capacitor and waveform

[heady marten]

whats that?

im prob gonna get all the stuff you said above, besides waveform, cuz i alr have a really good one it seems

[foggy oar]

force multiplier is named hana u backpack. gives u 30% skill dmg for 3 seconds when u shoot an enemy

[heady marten]

oh, i see, so they basically do the same thing

[foggy oar]

yeah, hana u uptime is iffy for me since i like to do legendary with it and can't always keep shooting

if you're playing refactor in a group and there's no revive coin mechanic, i also run birdie's quick fix exotic

[smoky latch]

Ditch Waveform for a second brand piece for more consistent damage

Impetus / Force Multiplier is great

[foggy oar]

meh, i like waveform more cuz i can position my turret well so it's always hitting an enemy and drones...well they do drone things

[smoky latch]

Still not consistent enough realistically

[heady marten]

what i hear is that i should just make a build that i can swap between waveform, birdies and whatever else on the go

what do i want on birdies, repair and damage or repair and haste

[subtle bluff]

waveform isn't good. Only reason it's ever used is to fill that last piece.

[plush cloak]

Is a prototype Harvest worth keeping or better to deconstruct for cores?

[subtle bluff]

If this is for Refactor repair skill does nothing for refactor

[subtle bluff]

If it has DTTooC keep it

or Flatline

[plush cloak]

CHC unfortunately.

[solar sable]

CC is not Crit
CC is for Crowd Control
CHC is for crit hit chance

[heady marten]

i dont really want to make a second birdies lol, my current one has repair and haste and it came almost fully upgraded when i got it awhile ago

[subtle bluff]

uH?

[lone wadi]

it can only have those stats....

[plush cloak]

Yep! You’re right

[soft crane]

Yo unc gimme the best hotshot oneshot build.

[subtle bluff]

You named 7 pieces in total..

[heady marten]

huh? 4 pieces, then one exotic, then one chestpiece?

[foggy oar]

eh? are you sure? 4 pc refactor = 4, exotic holster waveform = 1, named chestpiece impetus = 1....4+1+1 = 6

[subtle bluff]

OH lol I can't count

[heady marten]

MEMENTO?

[foggy oar]

the force multiplier backpack, birdie's quick fix and refactor chestpiece are interchangeable

[subtle bluff]

Force Multiplier is normal

Waveforms is actually pretty bad.

[foggy oar]

wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll

[heady marten]

i am seeing a lot of different things, i just want to focus on one build for now then i can branch off of it

[subtle bluff]

Depends what you want and need..

[soft crane]

Thanks unc.

[heady marten]

im assuming thats impetus and whatever backpack, im not at the point that i have icons memorized yet for everything

[foggy oar]

depends...i like to run legendary summit with max directives for dat juicy loot, i don't have ammo to shoot...i like my waveform there. again, i said it's interchangeable, even ikia's builds have parts u can swap out....if you're going for maaaaxxx dps, might as well go 3pc empress, 2pc hana u, 1pc wyvern no? it depends on the situation.

[foggy oar]

impetus = named wyvern chestpiece, force multiplier = named hana u backpack

[heady marten]

tyty, more countdown it is

i think i have a harmony laying around

[foggy oar]

you can also do heroic retaliations tbh..give more loot than countdown. but takes longer ig, so it's the same in the end ig

[heady marten]

i do countdowns unless i have a BT retal cuz of the music lol

[subtle bluff]

what SHD are you?

[heady marten]

1300 something

[fleet gulch]

Is Black Friday at all a good gun? Let's say for Strikers to make it simple.

[subtle bluff]

Ehh

[smoky latch]

Not really

[fleet gulch]

Hmm figured a blanket 22% extra weapon damage would be pretty darn good.

[smoky latch]

Yeah but it's pretty inaccurate. You'd need some WH

[fleet gulch]

Gunner gives 10% for sitting still, and if I have a way to come up with say 15% more, that should offset the loss right?

Actually, Strikers itself gives 15%, so that alone + gunner should offset the -25%?

[smoky latch]

Yeah Striker's is a good start. You won't be sitting still much ideally

[subtle bluff]

You'd still get more from both Killer and Measured

[fleet gulch]

On that note, what third stat do people typically go for on LMGs? I heard crit chance was popular, but I'm already over 50% from gear.

[smoky latch]

Change mods or gear then

[fleet gulch]

Why's that?

[livid sorrel]

it's 9.5% chc(a little above 1 and a half gear attribute) vs 10% chd(less than 1 gear attribute) on the third stat, it's much more worthwhile to build around it

[merry stone]

whats the best augment for proto gear on dps/striker builds?

[solar sable]

echo

[smoky latch]

Eh - there are very strong combos possible involving other augments too

Just going by theory because fkn nobody has such builds yet

[solar sable]

i'd say subjective

[fleet gulch]

Hmm, so you don't go damage to armor on LMGs?

[hazy steeple]

@fleet gulch CHC is the ideal stat, as it allows you to skip it in other places.

tl;dr dtooc on every other gun type, CHC on LMG's.

[frosty rivet]

Is birdies ok on an average heal build? Getting a little bored of datagloves and wanna try something new

[livid sorrel]

Birdies isn't doing anything until someone goes down and you go to revive them, pro gamer move is to swap to it when needed

[frosty rivet]

Yeah I suppose, but with escalation I guess I could get some use out of it

Guess iam just bored of the fi datagloves support

[smoky latch]

You can wear it all the time in high tier Escalations

For general gameplay not recommended because you lose out on the backpack talent

[harsh shard]

Investor mask with all yellow attributes vs waveform

Which one you guy prefer ?

[solar sable]

needs more context, for what build?

[grizzled loom]

what build

[foggy oar]

i mean where do you use waveform bro, in skill builds ofc. investor mask on skill builds huh

[gentle lichen]

3 skill attributes on investor makes it give 15% skill eff so it has some merit but it's half of what memento offers

[harsh shard]

Put investor instead of waveform

What do you think

[subtle bluff]

Waveform isn't good anyways..

[vivid jolt]

yellow investor is skill efficiency isnt it? probably works very well combined with seasonal modifiers for cooldowns

are you planning to use the one off skills like seeker mine and sticky bomb with it?

[uneven pond]

That 67% skill damage from modifier would do nicely as well

[frozen hull]

Is first bloom getting over hyped or is it good ? It didn’t read like something I’d use but I’m seeing people getting excited about the prototype version

[livid sorrel]

It's meh, all the hype is probably from people getting a prototype with decent rolls

[left sparrow]

Ways to improve?

[subtle bluff]

Content creators...

[left sparrow]

Newplayer really like the bluescreen

[frozen hull]

This is what I suspected

[subtle bluff]

Here's a guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10Zu9fKBuzxZ_EDlx_hkm2HN_f_KZltlZu7I8LRyceVE/edit?usp=drivesdk

[night canopy]

Hello guys!
I'm curious about sniper builds. I have a build based on 4 hotshot, chainkiller and airaldi backpack with Carbon M700/White Death with Determined talent.

What does more profit? My build or the one with ninjabike with one piece habsburg, one piece hotshot, one piece of airaldi, and other single pieces based on bonuses from gear set like headshot damage?

[subtle bluff]

This is the meta MMR build.

NBB will always nerf any builds maximum dmg.

[night canopy]

I see, thanks!

[pearl kestrel]

does anyone have a build for ouroboros?

[frosty rivet]

Honestly interested in how to effectively use it's talent

[summer totem]

Lucky

[nocturne current]

What are you gonna use Ouroboros for? just curious

[pearl kestrel]

PVEs

[summer totem]

Saved me the headache from shd 1 to 1000 thanks again mate

[subtle bluff]

Strike and Hunter Fury.
Treat it like any other SMG.

[subtle bluff]

You don't. It's only semi useful in PvE.

[pearl kestrel]

4pc striker and 2 pc hunter fury?

[nocturne current]

I can think only build it's for Incursion more specificly boss fight area Wright/Love birds

[frosty rivet]

What about pvp then

[subtle bluff]

No.
Has a Striker build or a HF build.

[subtle bluff]

You just have it on a build....

[pearl kestrel]

im currently trying to get other exotics... im thinking upgrading capacitor later after the server is up again

[subtle bluff]

There is nothing to build around it.

[frosty rivet]

So it's talent is just...there

[nocturne current]

I use ouroboros how i setted up is Striker with both chest and backpack and overdogs gloves

[pearl kestrel]

i also seeing some player getting armor everytime they hit/kill enemies is that a exotic equipment?

[subtle bluff]

What had ouro is its mods. RoF, crit and reload speed.

[pearl kestrel]

i just got back to that game 2 days ago and i kinda forgot some mechanics TvT

[fierce ether]

Chatterbox works fine atm with hunter fury guys? Or oroboros is better (speaking in all pve content)

[subtle bluff]

Bonus Armor?

[subtle bluff]

One requires a much more aggressive playstyle.

[summer totem]

Is oro good for pvp

[subtle bluff]

It's alright.

[frosty rivet]

There's a lot of oroboros questions

[subtle bluff]

Dunno why. It's nerf back TU22 hit it pretty hard.

It used to be very powerful.

[frosty rivet]

I still see people using it or making builds with it though

[summer totem]

Trying out viable builds rn in pvp specifically 2 piece unit alloys (salvo and chain killer) memento hallowman mask, gloves and kneepads that increase CHC and CHD

[subtle bluff]

Uh....

[summer totem]

Ik random crap but i somehow wiped out 7 players in DZ idk how but it happened

[subtle bluff]

Chainkiller and Memento require kills for them to proc. In PvP kills are kind of rare in the sense..

[summer totem]

DZ

[subtle bluff]

Under 1k SHD it's all noobs.

[livid sorrel]

Chatterbox with 3 stacks beats Ouroboros but needs you to stick up close and get kills without missing

[summer totem]

1001+ shd

Im already 1137 rn

[subtle bluff]

K. We'll same thing applies.

[summer totem]

Would appreciate a high end gear pvp build tho 👉👈

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

Or in the pinned messages you can follow to the build guide there's a starter for PvP builds in there.

[summer totem]

Maybe you could give me from one of your data sheet 👉👈

[nocturne current]

So if under 1k shd is noobs?... what about guys above 11k shd levels?.. just curious. and not here to insult or anything we all started from there.

[haughty harness]

Biggest noobs I've met were 20k players

[frosty rivet]

11k is a wild jump for an example

Under 1k isn't directly noob level, but they also haven't been playing nowhere near enough to be god tier dz farmers

[haughty harness]

Commendation score is better

[frosty rivet]

Unless ur me and just don't have pvp builds and just kinda sit there and wait to die

[frosty rivet]

Which is funny because I never got around to getting my PC account to the level of my Xbox one

[flint arch]

everyone is a noob

[frosty rivet]

Especially you

[flint arch]

im a noob yes, i need carry

[frosty rivet]

I can carry you

I don't really mind

[pearl kestrel]

maybe the icon shows blue in the armor

[subtle bluff]

Heartbreak gearset.

[pearl kestrel]

ohhh

[mortal heath]

hi guys, is it worth to augment a prototype piece , whose stats are not max?

[vivid jolt]

may as well spend a few cores but don't go past the 10 core re-rolls if it's not something you're dead set on keeping

[proud junco]

Thinking about trying an unlimited seeker mine build. I've tried looking it up and have seen different things. What's the best setup for it?

[soft crane]

Unlimited seeker mine build? I vaguely remember its got something to do with Hardwired set.

[proud junco]

It does. I've just seen different versions and idk which is best. I know it's pretty good though

[subtle bluff]

4pcs HW + BP, BTSU China light GC.
The Mop w/in-sync.

[proud junco]

Thanks. I'll try it

[weak quail]

Had a level 15500 join my legendary yesterday. Bro had 2.1 million armor and hid on the back spamming oxidizer and forgot his assault sentry somewhere far behind. Core strength user. Ended up getting kicked by 2 guys under 1000 and 500 and me just barely over 1000. Embarrassing

[spice crest]

Y'all got a build for Big Alejandro lmg

[woeful zodiac]

I use Tipping Scales + Equalizer + Overdogs

Instead of TS, u can use Strikers

[soft crane]

Its either Tipping Scale or just yee yee ahh Strikers

[short verge]

for those kitsunebi hunting, the fastest strat is just a good dps and a lucky spawn point?

they really be doing anything except chasing after the one guy they're supposed to be killing 🙄

[soft crane]

Where did you get that helmet?

[short verge]

i dont remember, i just had it in my apparels at one point, never paid attention to where i get them

[hazy steeple]

There's a few helmets that are quite similar, with the whole "riot style" thing going on.
Hyenas had one all the way back in April 2019.

[broken edge]

no wonder that escalation failed

[short verge]

clearly bro was double dipping into both heartbreaker and striker, god tier dps setup

/s

[hazy steeple]

the chameleon really helps that whole build into godmode.

[ashen bear]

...a blue core heartbreaker? ...been a hot minute since I've seen that, thought everyone turned 'em red

[uncut yarrow]

Don't forget that secretly striker and heartbreaker mix so he has 4 set striker and heartbreaker with the heartbreaker bag for the added armor. This guy's damage is out of this world

[lone wadi]

heartbreaker is good with a couple blues

[livid sorrel]

if you're too lazy to get em with crit attributes

[broken edge]

it can work but not in this setup

[uncut yarrow]

If you run the bag I think its better to run like 2 blues just so that extra armor is extra extra. Though as we've all found out, the more blue you have the worse you are in escalation

I think the heartbreaker build ive ended up using has 2 blues? It feels pretty solid. It isn't insane and the highest I play is Heroic 99% of the time so it works when I'm paying attention

In the end heartbreaker isn't as good as striker

[short verge]

slow but steady blue heartbreaker i use in retaliations, again very slow but pretty much guarantees retaliation clear for me

[livid sorrel]

Funny bonus armor numbers though...

[uncut yarrow]

Bluescreen heartbreaker ive never really seen. Its got some solid accuracy so the headshots shouldn't be too bad i guess

[ashen bear]

Most armour I've ever had in a pure red pulse build for sure ...I miss countdown, should play it again sometime

[livid sorrel]

They do got pulse skill on though

[short verge]

mostly in anticipation against team 9, specifically to deal with Camper and Griefer

[ashen bear]

I think this one's got the technician underbarrel ...other wise that 'mega damage' is all for naught

[uncut yarrow]

Does disrupt mess with them?

[short verge]

ye

[uncut yarrow]

Oh thats cool I never realized that

I would ideally use more bluescreen but I can never find a build with enough damage for me. I'll have to mess with it but in the meantime I gtg back to work. Yall have fun in here

[livid sorrel]

the humble negotiator's

[uncut yarrow]

I think i collected the pieces for it but i never made the build

[ashen bear]

I like this BTSU Medic's attitude ...shame he was the first to go
Also, it's been a while since I've used shotguns, did they change them at some point when Battle for Brooklyn dropped? Or...is it just striker's being striker's?

[short verge]

shotguns were always how they were, things just got better and you probably got better at aiming

[spiral lion]

guys what is best weapon to kill kitsubeni squad? i try solo but always got clapped by them especially by those damn flamethrower with ridiculous range

[misty crane]

Which backpack is better for a foundry build? I'm not sure between the memento or ninjabike

[urban latch]

Neither?

[junior lagoon]

i dont know if this means anything as it is based on 2 t5 escalations but my overall damage numbers fell when i switched from overdogs to coyotes

[hexed raft]

You running in a group or solo?

[normal shadow]

Which one would be better for 1886 with Determined in a headshot build: DTOOC or headshot?

[patent fossil]

Dtooc

[normal shadow]

See that's what I figured as well but then again: it's a headshot build.

[patent fossil]

Still dtooc

[grim bluff]

Damage to targets outta cover is an amplify effect at the end of all your damage calculations that multiplies everything

Headshot damage is additive with other headshot damage

[urban latch]

As long as your over 150% HSD, then HSD doesn't mean as much as you'd think for a HH build.

[urban latch]

There's no "end" in multiplication.

[grim bluff]

Okay 👍

[whole willow]

this stat good?

[livid sorrel]

you're still low shd so get your watch levels up and focus on chc then chd
around that level, i'd suggest aiming for a 1 chc to 2 chd ratio
or if you wanna minmax that early, compare builds by multiplying their chc to chd and seeing which one is higher

[whole willow]

i used chc for every equipment , but its not maxed yet , if i want to increase chd , do i find the equipment with both att?

[livid sorrel]

yes, gear mods and attachments too

[whole willow]

is it default drop or i gotta recalibrate

[livid sorrel]

You can hang on to decent chc pieces you already have, i'd suggest having one each for chc and chd

[flint arch]

focus on chd and chd

[livid sorrel]

brain fart

[whole willow]

any example?

[flint arch]

could be worse

[whole willow]

sorry im quite new in doing builds and i cant rly get the hang of it,

can i dm u my build and their attributes? @livid sorrel

[flint arch]

you can just post it here. this is build advice after all

[livid sorrel]

just send it here

[last schooner]

Is first bloom better then lex?

[flint arch]

no

[livid sorrel]

Not really

[flint arch]

it might be situationally more powerful in very specific contexts but lex will beat it everywhere else

[last schooner]

The accuracy is crap.

[flint arch]

first bloom would be great if it wasn't a PDR

unfortunately it is a PDR

[last schooner]

So pretty much only for chunga and dogs and health linked npc

[hazy steeple]

@whole willow It's best to just post in here, that way you can make sure the advice you're getting is good.
Also, DM scams are on the rise and people are wary these days about them.

[flint arch]

not even dogs. dogs can be killed very quickly by shooting their legs. their legs have no armor plating

[livid sorrel]

yeah, who knows, i might tell you to use foundry bulwark ninjabike in dms

[whole willow]

alright , these are my builds , is there anything i could do to improve ,and where do i start first to imrpove?

[flint arch]

how dare you not force them to use pvgc striker

[livid sorrel]

that's your bit

[flint arch]

i guess

[flint arch]

what are the other 2 pieces, and also what are the stats on your guns

[whole willow]

here

do i farm other better strikers set?

its ok to say my build ass

[livid sorrel]

that's already really good compared to most of the new guys that go here tbh

[flint arch]

that's the most standard version

find a better striker mask and equalizer with either CHC/CHD

you should get 60% CHC first then put the rest of your stats in CHD

[whole willow]

alright so i gotta target mask and equalizer with better stats on both especially chc and chd

[whole willow]

thanks

[flint arch]

target the brand/gear set, don't target the item category

[whole willow]

alright thank you very much

[flint arch]

but yeah as blue said this is a really good start

[whole willow]

alright thanks

[hollow mantle]

can anyone tell me please what gear is amazing with this exotic AR?

[livid sorrel]

🐘 address me...

[flint arch]

ignoring the massive elephant in the room,

[livid sorrel]

Strega is fun but unfortunately there isn't a gearset for slow firing ARs. CoCo maybe?

[hollow mantle]

Slow fire rate? My strega emty magazine in 3s xD

[inland hound]

i made a negotiators/strega build it was very fun to use for solo heroic stuff

[soft crane]

Its under construction so i wouldnt say its ass. A build is ass if its actually ass and whoever using it thinks its good.

[whole willow]

lol i see

[soft crane]

Oh hey I have this build

[hollow mantle]

Btw can i use black tusk exotic gloves with talents for hives insted of mask or this exotic is useless?

[flint arch]

an under construction standard striker is better than whatever abhorrent CS build i see being described with "shreds escalation" these days

[soft crane]

Got anything else?

[livid sorrel]

it's for hive builds, i wouldn't use hives that aren't reviver under 6 skill tiers

[soft crane]

Or solo god mode ahh build

[hollow mantle]

So throw that gloves to stash?

What about my mask is she good or not good ?

[soft crane]

Meh, investor takes way too many exo comps to get what you want.

[livid sorrel]

if you had an all red one it could be good but that's an absurdly low chance to get one

[soft crane]

Best case scenario is 4 reds. But lets be real, the chance of getting that is extremely low.

[hollow mantle]

Realy ? I got 68 exotic comps bcs my clan help me farm them

[soft crane]

Roll it 3 times.

If you dont get at least 3 reds then stash it.

[hollow mantle]

What i must look in this rolls? What red stats must show?

[soft crane]

Core attribute is weapon damage, sub attributes are chc, chd, and weapon handling.

Keep in mind every attributes for investor are randomized everytime you reconfigure them.

I forgot banned attributes for investor other than Headshot damage.

[hollow mantle]

Chc is cricical hit chance and Chd critical hit damage ?

[soft crane]

Yeh

[hollow mantle]

Btw @soft crane freedom pistol what is that gun?

[soft crane]

Idk

You're looking for Quickstep or something?

[hollow mantle]

Its a exotic type looks like desert eagle but in american camo

[soft crane]

Oh Liberty

[hollow mantle]

Just wanna know its a good gun or trash in 2026 🙂 i m new in TD2

[soft crane]

Used to be part of tank builds back then.

Dont know if its viable these days.

Just stash it.

[hollow mantle]

Oh ok i got 2 from this event case xD

[soft crane]

Keep a copy of every exotics and named items in stash.

Anyway good luck rolling the investor.

[junior lagoon]

What is the attributes needed in investor

[soft crane]

@junior lagoon for DPS

Headshot damage attribute is banned.

There are two other attributes banned for each blue and yellow, cant remember them.

[junior lagoon]

Even then it must be a like one at a thousand

[soft crane]

Aint really worth it.

Better off with Coyote if you dont have something like Tinkerer or Overdogs.

[smoky latch]

Health and Repair Skills

[soft crane]

Right. Health for blue and repair skills for yellow.

[livid sorrel]

If my math is right, getting a roll of all 4 reds is 0.39%

[whole willow]

big alejandro good for strikers build?

[soft crane]

Yeh

[whole willow]

is it better than st elmo or on par?

[soft crane]

Better.

[whole willow]

alright thanks

[cunning crescent]

SO whats the farm for optimization mats now?

[delicate cobalt]

What talents are u guys running in escalation missions on an AR (lexington) build ?

Currently playing Killer but past T4-T5 seems like its not even worth playing it tbh.

[soft crane]

Measured.

[delicate cobalt]

thanks, i will give it a try 👍

[flint arch]

forth and back

[delicate cobalt]

what other weapon are u playing with the lex if u are using this talent ?

[vivid jolt]

for flags spam control points and craft them w/50 green and for the clipboards spend shd points on them

[buoyant perch]

MK46 frenzy

[soft crane]

Ah screw it, Im gonna go all in Investor tomorrow

[delicate cobalt]

thanks 👍

[subtle bluff]

84 different rolls for it GL

[soft crane]

I got 2 investors, one of them already has 3 reds. Im gonna use the other one.

[flint arch]

.

[summer flax]

hello!

Jayko isnt near their PC rn so they sent me here and i'm looking for a eclipse protocol crowd control build.

I am interested in the Scorpion shot gun. Any help?

[soft crane]

Oh hey we met again. What a coincidence. Uh yeah funny story, turns out I do remember how my CC build looked like.

• Vile exotic mask
• 4 eclipse protocol including chest piece
• Electrique backpack with Creeping Death talent
• Sub attributes and gear mods are status effects and skill haste.

[soft crane]

Ah yep, I got the OG eclipse protocol build.

[halcyon sentinel]

good enough mk46?

here the stat

[subtle bluff]

You want chc on it

[halcyon sentinel]

yea, but my chance is already 60

[summer flax]

thank u

[summer flax]

ill book mark this

[halcyon sentinel]

but i used chance in gear mod tho, just 1

[subtle bluff]

Then that means you can have more chd in your build

[cunning crescent]

do "DZ caches" not exist anymore?

i could have sworn that was a thing

[whole willow]

where can i get lexington?

[halcyon sentinel]

would you just optimize the lmg damage and the damage out of target? tho its kinda low

[halcyon sentinel]

event cache

[whole willow]

where can i get that

[halcyon sentinel]

https://thedivision2.com/tu-y8s1-1-update-notes

[whole willow]

what?

[outer stone]

the cache is at the event vendor outside White House

[whole willow]

i see thanks

[tall hollow]

If I'm runnning 4pc striker lmg, do I use salvo or fox's prayer? or contractors?

[outer stone]

overdogs

[vernal wing]

Overdogs and Ceska/groupo piece to balance crit

[urban bay]

what should i put here ??

[tall hollow]

Thank you

[outer stone]

I'm using this combo, good for general DPS

[urban bay]

nice ty

[urban bay]

but what do i want with my build xD

[golden jackal]

This weapon should only be used when you want to destroy someone's armor.

[urban bay]

it's for hy tier escal

[golden jackal]

It has both ammunition and damage when HS

[golden jackal]

Destroying armor here refers to enemy types wearing armor

[smoky latch]

Armor plates*

[smoky latch]

Is not regular armor (white bar)

[urban bay]

wich one is split ? There is no translation in french here

[urban bay]

yes i use it for them only

[golden jackal]

The enemies look like the image I sent.

[patent fossil]

If you're using frenzy on your lmg you probably don't want the mag size bonus so just go all in on hsd

[golden jackal]

offenese

defenese

[urban bay]

yep the 2 of ofense, but split isn't translate in french

[golden jackal]

utili

[outer stone]

split is the one with the Axe icon

[golden jackal]

I still prefer it this way.

[urban bay]

okay done

[urban bay]

5 piece ??

[golden jackal]

nah

or

[urban bay]

i don't like overdogs, i shoot on everyone

[fleet gulch]

I saw a guy running this as a healer type on Legendary stronghold the other day, is this a good build?

[golden jackal]

Actually, I no longer have the resources to make changes.

[urban bay]

i tried with this tho but less damage than my build atm i think not enough opti

[golden jackal]

Skill health deals damage based on health and has no healing effect.

[smoky latch]

Yes but usually you would swap to Birdie's. This is more the high-tier Escalation version

[urban bay]

striker is meta but this one hit hard af

[golden jackal]

This increases damage cover

[golden jackal]

I don't like the shirt in this set because it takes longer.

[urban bay]

u prefer equalizer ?

[golden jackal]

You have to shoot continuously to be able to stack it, which takes quite a long time.

[urban bay]

in escalation it's ok

[golden jackal]

1

2

[fleet gulch]

This is still good for lower difficulty stuff right? I don't have Birdie yet.

[ashen bear]

Best perk on a Lexington? I’ve put streamline on mine because I rarely use them

[golden jackal]

do you need ?

[smoky latch]

If you don't have Birdie's use BTSU gloves and Restorer Hive

[urban bay]

i don't like lexington, mk46 more OP in escal

[golden jackal]

I'm preparing to open 2000 keys.

Once this mask is fixed, there will probably be more builds.

[urban bay]

not working with named sutff 🥲

[golden jackal]

mk46 not name

[smoky latch]

It's about it not working with prototype items

[urban bay]

thought you was talking about the lex

[surreal shell]

What vendor has dark zone points

[smoky latch]

Perks to activate you mean?

[surreal shell]

Ye

[smoky latch]

WH, first floor, go up the stairs and 2x left, then on the right side of the room behind the makeshift desk

[surreal shell]

Ah ty keep getting message saying I got dark zone points to spend but for got where to go to

[subtle bluff]

Drop foxes for Equalizer

[balmy ore]

what stat should i look for first bloom prototype?

[smoky latch]

DTOC. But FYI, it's not as great as you might think. I would not prototype it

[summer flax]

is the Chameleon worth investing into?

[solar sable]

neh

[summer flax]

shame. such a good looking wep

[subtle bluff]

It's fun to use. Meta wise if it handles anything like an AR it could be decent.

[summer flax]

alright. ill add it to my list of stuffs i wanna try out

[woeful chasm]

I mean it beats Lexington in dps and ttk so its not crap.

[smoky latch]

I didn't say it's crap. Its talent is situational. How did you test it to get to this conclusion?

[solar sable]

proof?

[solar sable]

I don't think they're legit since they said that T0 Escalation drops 2 proto gear per NPC

[smoky latch]

Probably watched a few YT clickbait videos

[uncut yarrow]

There's a spreadsheet in here you can use

[flint arch]

if first bloom was on a faster firing AR then it likely can at least compete

unfortunately first bloom is a PDR

I think I've said this like 39495882 times already

I successfully predicted that first bloom would be a minor trap

[smoky latch]

Lex wins burst damage, very often more relevant. Just going by base damage.
In terms of mag and sustain the PDR is ahead - but again, only by base damage.

Now add a damage talent like Killer or Measured to it and it changes again. So that claim above is ~

[woeful chasm]

Well Killer in a high tier escalation has like what.. 5% uptime?

[smoky latch]

Ah here we go, situational

[onyx sage]

then don't use killer

[smoky latch]

I think I mentioned that earlier already

[flint arch]

to add to the sustained thing, there are very few scenarios where you can reliably shoot someone for 15 seconds straight. maybe a raid or something

maybe in escalation the enemy health pools are comical enough, but good luck not getting shot at all when you're nailing someone in the face

[smoky latch]

I've seen ppl using Agitator and the Cloak kneepads in T6 Escalations to try to avoid that lmao

[flint arch]

the act of shooting makes you a decoy no matter what

[smoky latch]

Shooting, damage you deal, proximity, all comes together

[hazy steeple]

Well, unless you have 2 Striker players taking all the heat.

[onyx sage]

i was hyped for agitator until i tried it out and it has the exact same inaccuracy as the normal f2000

[hazy steeple]

love my walking decoy teammates

[smoky latch]

It pulls up top right gently, with Striker's it's OK

[onyx sage]

it's not good enough for me

[smoky latch]

But it's just not a laz0r

So I can see your point here

[onyx sage]

i mean the stability is fine, it's the inaccuracy

[smoky latch]

Long range yeah

[onyx sage]

even famas is more reliable for me

[smoky latch]

It goes straight up, easier to control

[flint arch]

stability can be mitigated by spending 577000 hours in aimlab

inaccuracy can't

[smoky latch]

lol

[onyx sage]

nah i mean the accuracy

[smoky latch]

Oh yeah that too, much better in comparison

[onyx sage]

again only accuracy matters to me. stability is just an easy thing to get around

[smoky latch]

Eagle Bearer might beg to differ here without Striker's

[hazy steeple]

Dien, I've seen your videos, I don't think you have much of a problem with either, if I'm being honest.

[smoky latch]

But that one is catching dust anyways

[onyx sage]

it's probably just my playstyle but i've come around to using both LMG and AR interchangeably, and i have the same range/accuracy requirement on both

gets even worse in escalation where i can only seldom get up close

[smoky latch]

Distance is your friend in there for sure

Goes hand in hand with cover

[onyx sage]

nailing dog legs from afar with lexington is like... something i can only do with lex or m4, i can't go back afterwards xD

[solar sable]

hax

[flint arch]

so in conclusion the weapon can have the most horrid kick and recoil pattern but as long the bullet trajectory is consistently parallel to the barrel its fine

[onyx sage]

just for me yeah, not saying others can't enjoy things as i do of course

[flint arch]

no custom emojis makes me a dull boy

[flint arch]

wait so thats why you haven't been using the famous?

[onyx sage]

i wanted to try out back and forth more and it felt better on lexi for me. I'll go back to famas soon

[flint arch]

hmm

@hexed steppe how dare you abuse your mod powers for your mortarganda

[frosty rivet]

Wait someone besides me uses motar?

[hexed steppe]

I'm a confirmed mortar supremacist

[frosty rivet]

Nice

I actually love motar

[hexed steppe]

And yes, no trick is too small for mortarganda

[junior lagoon]

what do you think of first bloom?

[wanton hornet]

3.6 roentgen

[solar sable]

Localdeck is the Mortar god

[subtle bluff]

There's a few of them.. Us...

[frosty rivet]

I dunno I've gotten good with it over the years

[hexed steppe]

What I use

[solar sable]

show off...

[frosty rivet]

Freaky ass build

[hexed steppe]

High damage, high uptime

[flint arch]

I got "force multiplier"

[hexed steppe]

Pure

[willow ocean]

That’s quite impressive there

[frosty rivet]

Meanwhile I just have my motar on refractor

[solar sable]

Refactor Refactor Refactor

[flint arch]

what is refractor, thats not in the game

[hazy steeple]

Yeah, call it Arialdi instead.

[wanton hornet]

It's all those hanging glass pieces that make you think it's sniper glint

[smoky latch]

Sounds like an opera singer

[flint arch]

Hasburg

[hazy steeple]

Give it a Momento, it'll grow on you.

[smoky latch]

The Regular answer 👍

[subtle bluff]

I'm slowly grinding to get 2 proto to make this with overdogs. I'm missing grupo yellows tho...

[hexed steppe]

i cba to grind proto at this point. ill just get you young whipper snappers carry me if needed

[subtle bluff]

I got the China one or 2.

[inland hound]

mastah' got me workin' mastah got me slavin

[flint arch]

"carry me or be banned from the server"

[hexed steppe]

never, how am i supposed to convert everyone if i ban them 🔥

[flint arch]

[grim bluff]

I don't 'get' mortar, I spent a couple days playing around with it but it felt really unreliable. I must have been doing something wrong but I couldn't always get it to launch where I wanted. Sometimes it wouldn't fire despite button presses, other times it wouldn't let me retarget locations and just kept firing on the same one. When it worked it was really fun at least

[wanton hornet]

I wish it had a higher arc

[junior lagoon]

mortar is not a build, it is a lifestyle

[hexed steppe]

you double clicked and locked it in place.

take your time to aim shots and dont try an spam it. its not how it works

[grim bluff]

Could you explain that in more detail? I don't quite understand

[wanton hornet]

Mortar is comedy gold during the explosive event though

[hexed steppe]

double clicking your button to fire the skill will lock it in place where ever it is. itll not fire in that case and cause you to not be able to aim it again till its double clicked and unlocked

itll also not let you unlock it while it has a round in theh air

mortar is a lot about timing and knowing spawn and npc behavior

[grim bluff]

Okay, so ADS and tap button targets the location, double tapping locks that location?

Wish the controls on the skill said that

[hexed steppe]

tapping fires it off, double tapping locks

you also dont need to ads and you can target through walls if you know the layout of a room

you can also hit higher arcs to hit second/3rd floors by targeting the ceiling of the floor below

[grim bluff]

Yeah I figured that last part out pretty quick, it was fun hitting difficult shots

Thanks for clarifying, I appreciate the help, I knew I was doing something wrong just couldn't intuit what the issue was

[onyx sage]

i have to get carried too, dw

[flint arch]

sir

[lone glacier]

same

[onyx sage]

wanna play tonight?

[civic meteor]

Does the +10 damage out of cover just add an extra 10% damage for out of cover or is it more technical than that

[onyx sage]

it's a multiplier, any DTTOOC source adds to that multiplier

if you have 8% dttooc already from fox's prayer for example, and another 10% from the gun, the 10% and 8% add to become 18%

[civic meteor]

Interesting

[onyx sage]

^

[solar sable]

why is he sharing the dark arts of meth

[uncut yarrow]

Why not the mystic arts of heroin?

[cunning crescent]

i need "true sons assessment" mats...does retaliation work for this?

[smoky latch]

#ask-td2-community next time pls

[onyx sage]

not directly, but you can get the blueprint for it by doing control points and retaliations are just control point rush

[civic meteor]

I’m just like tempted to swap my DTOOC to Range to just have a Beamer with no bullet drop

[onyx sage]

that's not how it works, bullets always shoot straight, you just extend the range at which the first damage reduction occurs with that, and at 100m all bullets disappear anyway

[rocky rain]

I run through my exotics extremely fast now to make my gear prototype. What’s the fastest way to get exotic components?

[smoky latch]

There isn't one. It's a massive bottleneck, ultimately you grind only for exo comps only if you wanna upgrade your own gear without having to re-farm everything...

No fun at all

Currently the Cherry Blossom event helps with a few components but once it's done it's done. Then it's just Retaliations or Countdown

[subtle bluff]

Don’t sweat on having prototype so fast. They’re helpful but it doesn’t make or break your build.

[clever bough]

Is it even worth it to reroll the investor to all red?

[flint arch]

you will get a slightly worse coyote's for 99999% of the cost

[gentle lichen]

And 8% handling
Don't forget the handling

[oak flume]

anyone know the best high end dps build? kinda tired of stacks and heard a few people talk about a high end build that does basically the same dmg as fully built striker

[candid surge]

i have a question about some mods that give like 0.5% dmg is that really all there is too it or can u upgrade those?

[solar sable]

can't optimize them, pure rng

also, are you talking about gear mods or weapon mods?

[gentle lichen]

Nothing comes close to striker at least high-end wise
But a good build would be something like this which uses strega

[solar sable]

hey that's my image

[gentle lichen]

Otherwise probably swap mag size to ceska or grupo if another weapon

[gentle lichen]

-# shh

[flint arch]

just use pvgc striker, the stacks are there but you are able to deal slightly less than a HE build with 0 stacks

[oak flume]

pvgc?

[lone glacier]

perfect vigilance / glass cannon

[gentle lichen]

Perfect glass cannon

[lone glacier]

The Chad Striker

[gentle lichen]

Actually for slightly better dps use 2 UA vigi gc and striker if using an AR