td2-build-advice

[timid oyster]

I put those crit chance on from recaling it

[subtle bluff]

You can watch in my runs that's what I'm doing.

[subtle bluff]

You really want to get above 54% CHC with killer

[grand girder]

tbh even with the low stats its striker obliterate, should be killing a yellow quite easily within a mag

if we are talking heroic or lower

[subtle bluff]

That but more CHC willhelp

[silent storm]

Once stacked

[grand girder]

even from no stacks I'd argue it isn't gonna take 2-3 mags maybe 1 and a half

[silent storm]

What do the weapons look like?

[grand girder]

not sure on its rolls but its famas with killer

[silent storm]

Does it have DttooC what is the WD on it?

[timid oyster]

I put killer on it

[subtle bluff]

Remember it's a on crit it stacks

[timid oyster]

Mid roll and health damage

[paper dagger]

Anyways guys iam going to sleep now its 5am here in germany 😄

[subtle bluff]

What's roll on it. DTTooC or what? we never got that answer.

[timid oyster]

Crit damage

[subtle bluff]

Ahhh.

[silent storm]

So not the best not the worst, how much DMG does it have? What are the Attributes?

[subtle bluff]

Changes Foxes or something else to CHC get your overall CHC above 54%

[timid oyster]

90somthing k

[subtle bluff]

WD doesn't matter much rowdy atm

CHC is really important since there are 2 things that require it.

[timid oyster]

And i do have a coyote make i got from a cashe i bought with countdown tokens but it mid rolled

[silent storm]

5% and 15% is a big difference

[subtle bluff]

No stick with foxes because your weapon doesn't have DTTooC

Plz stop making me repeat myself. CHC above 54%

[timid oyster]

I never seen thst on a ar before

I dont even think i have it on my recallbration station. Will check tomorrow

[subtle bluff]

It's in the library for weapons.

It's also important

[fringe ravine]

Looking for a new build for heroic retaliation and legendary missions, what should I work on ?

[subtle bluff]

Build hub has a few things.

[fringe ravine]

Where would I find that ?

[hazy steeple]

@fringe ravine #td2-build-advice > 📌 pinned-message > "spreadsheet 2" > builds.

[solar sable]

the Lvl40 Starters Guide has a category for Retaliations, Legendary is still on its way

[low walrus]

Any good builds for Tempest? Just got it today, and have been really impressed with the damage it can put out despite being a sidearm. Been having fun running it with the reflector shield.

[hazy steeple]

There's a build in the spreadsheet, in iKia's section for a Tempest TechTank. I've been having fun running that for a bit.

especially useful for carrying newbies in matchmaking.

[slate wedge]

you guys think the new AR will be good?

the one that deals more damage the more HP an enemy has

[solar sable]

it looks good on paper ngl

[slate wedge]

should be like an 18% damage increase on average

[eager cloak]

Perhaps the AR has the chance to be the best chunga shredder.

[shy willow]

On paper it does look good but we'll see how it is in practice

Could be sweeeeett for escalations with that talent

[pulsar ferry]

Hey guys, new to the chat & a returning player to division 2, I missed the seasonal window for the quickstep gun, you guys seem to know what’s what with gear is there any other equipment/gear I could use that’s available now so I can keep up or even keep within visual distance of other players on Countdown!?! 🤔😅

[hazy steeple]

@pulsar ferry There's an Event starting tonight, once the maintenance is done, that lets you get the Quickstep from the "gear cache".
Enjoy!

the Event is running for 3 weeks.

[bleak kernel]

Eh! More like 9%. You will still be using striker or negotiator dilemma for the event.

[pulsar ferry]

Fantastic! I’ve been feeling like I’m helping as much as I could being SO far behind! 😅

@hazy steeple thank you for the reply so quick!

[soft crane]

Dont forget to look for Turmoil kneepads, Caretaker, Lexington, and other unique named items.

[pulsar ferry]

@soft crane Thank you!

[slate wedge]

why 9%? it’s like 33% more damage on full health enemies

[bleak kernel]

Just playing with ya!

[lone wadi]

lmao

[bleak kernel]

69% would have been better though.

[woeful cloak]

is the dmg additive or multiplicative?

[buoyant perch]

The wording suggests additive but we need testing to be sure

[woeful cloak]

if its rly only add its maybe still ok

multi would be wild

[buoyant perch]

If additive it's only 12.7% increase at max total HP enemies assuming expertise 30. kinda DOA

[woeful cloak]

yeah doubt it will feel any near good as my acr with perfect ranger

[subtle bluff]

I mean burst wise ACR is rather down on the list...

[weak quail]

Shouldn’t it be great for armor damage since they have full hp until it goes?

[livid sorrel]

it's based on both armor and hp

[weak quail]

Ah ok

[livid sorrel]

We don't really know how it works specifically until we get it

[weak quail]

Good point haha we see today

[slate wedge]

i would have said it sound like a multi but we’ll have to see after the maintenance

[flint arch]

imo boomerang talent has a similar description (for the damage part)

Critical hits have a 50% (75%) chance to return the bullet to the magazine.
If a bullet is returned to the magazine the next shot gains 40% (50%) increased damage.

the talent just mentions damage, which in this case actually refers to just AWD, so blossom harvest might just be an AWD increase

[strong cave]

Remember, with it being PDR, it only has 3 mod slots

2 crit mods and a mag mod

I don't see this gun offering all that much. I suspect it'll grant the same bonuses as optimist would

Bc it reads a lot like optimist talent does

[flint arch]

actually, even if it's an amp, it's going to fall off once the enemies are closer to dying

[strong cave]

I suspect it'll work like optimist does and as you kill them you get less damage

[flint arch]

I just realized measured gives 30% TWD and I feel dumb

[strong cave]

Yeah that's the back half of the mag

[flint arch]

But like, the TWD comes with

1. RoF reduction
2. half a mag

[strong cave]

I suspect it'll be reverse optimist. Then again, idek if I care to play the event

[flint arch]

blossom harvest gives like a 33% TWD increase, but it's going to fall off real quick

[strong cave]

I saw the apparel thumbnails and kinda just... 😬

[flint arch]

so it's just going to be a meh talent EVEN if we assume its a TWD increase

[eager cloak]

That still average out 16.5% multi, better than flatline and don't even need pulse.

[strong cave]

I get we have history with Japan and all that but idk. Event feels like recycled holiday event but very out of place

[flint arch]

I guess so, but then again we're still assuming it is a TWD increase

[grizzled loom]

What do you mean we have history with Japan?

[livid sorrel]

i searched it and there's actually a cherry blossom festival in dc irl, the trees were a gift from japan

[grizzled loom]

I think ronin and Japanese armor also looks cool

[strong cave]

As blue said, the US has history with Japan. The trees there at I think one of the monuments were a gift from Japan

They should be near the one Tower control point thingy by Tidal Basin. I don't remember what it's called, assuming the update effects those areas. Pretty sure the US IRL has them there

[dapper glacier]

I have been playing around with the Umbra gearset and found a few fun builds. I would like to know if any of you have tried them using Česka kneepads combined with Nimble, the Centurion’s Scabbard, or the Imperial Dynasty holster? What are your thoughts?

[slate wedge]

true but 18% amp on average is still great

[shy willow]

Higher than a lot of damage talents really

And in high scaled content obviously it'll excel further too

Will have to wait and see

[exotic talon]

ok now im curious about how proto skill tiers interact with core strength

does it still just count as one yellow core?

[livid sorrel]

good question actually, capacitor too

[slate wedge]

they said that proto skill tiers will retroactively apply so does that mean my Ecplise Build is just maxxed not since it had only status maxed out before

[exotic talon]

the game probably kept track of the rng under the hood even if proto skill tiers did nothing, so id say theres a chance for them to get 1.5 tiers

[subtle bluff]

CS require cores
Skill Teirs aren't cores

[lone glacier]

Tier 1: 0.20%
Tier 2: 0.40%
Tier 3: 0.60%
Tier 4: 0.60%
Tier 5: 0.80%
Tier 6: 1.25%
Tier 7: 1.50%
Tier 8: 2.00%
Tier 9: 2.50%
Tier 10: 3.00%

New proto drop chances

This aint it chief

[subtle bluff]

The wording for capa is weird..

[strong cave]

Somebody here posted earlier the targeted loot drop chance also scales with each tier

60% chance to get TL at tier 10. It gets worse the lower tier you go. At t1 it's only 5%

[lone glacier]

Yeah but whats the point in having such a high tl drop chance when the proto drop chance itself is still abysmal

[strong cave]

Like genuinely I would rather use cheats just to get this stuff. So much gambling

[exotic talon]

unlike the other two cores skill tiers are a unique kind of stat that we have never seen above 1 per gear piece, i think its fair to be curious

[strong cave]

(don't actually use cheats there's no point)

[woeful cloak]

3% is fine

[lone glacier]

Yeah its not with how RNG it is.

[exotic talon]

on one hand i like the endgame chase
on the other it is still way overtuned

[woeful cloak]

but you should get from tier 6 to 10 some reward for doing the mission

[strong cave]

I don't mind a chase. I personally mind when it feels more like I'm playing slot machines and less like a shooter

[strong cave]

Correct but imagine the clear time for THOSE rewards. In the end, it's still not worth it

[eager cloak]

You start to get exotic component from tier 6.

[lone glacier]

I don't mind farming or doing the same thing over and over again but there has to be a way to get what Im after and not pray to RNGesus

[exotic talon]

what if drop chance just equaled the escalation tier
1% for t1, 10% for t10

[eager cloak]

Max at tier 10 with 3 components per clear.

[strong cave]

Yeah quite a lot have mentioned that

[woeful cloak]

how much ?

[exotic talon]

i think targeted loot chance can stay as is if we just drop more protos

[eager cloak]

1 at tier 6. 3 at tier 10.

[strong cave]

Well the thing is, they have it based on chance too. T1 is a 5% TL drop chance. Tier 10 is 60 or 65% chance can't remember

[strong cave]

So we have prototype drop chances and targeted loot drop chances now

[exotic talon]

1% proto chance and 5% TL chance seems decent for me in whats practically just heroic

[woeful cloak]

3 dosent sound that bad tbh

[eager cloak]

If I remember correctly, targeted loot is on top of your normal loot as bonus, so this should be good.

[woeful cloak]

div 2 has to much loot xd

[eager cloak]

+100% base rate, and bonus chance to get more.

[inland hound]

As someone who grinded out t5/t6 escalation for proto cores, the drop rates were generous to me. Fully proto gear and rerolled multiple times and upgraded multiple times.

[smoky moss]

where is this from?

[woeful cloak]

reddit

[exotic talon]

yeah what we have isnt bad it just doesnt respect your time if you play literally anything else alongside div 2

[woeful cloak]

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1safynu/psa_escalation_prototype_gear_drop_chances_roll/

[eager cloak]

Each directive adds 3% TL chance, so with 5 directives, at tier 10, it is 77% bonus chance, nice.

[woeful cloak]

what i didnt liked before is runnig 5 felt better then 10

loot wise

[inland hound]

I unironically think a majority of complaints are the players who don't even know how to make a build but see a prototype item and their loot sensors go ticking off (me like shiny item in grindy game) so they fall into "you need prototype to enjoy the game"

It's a bit of a trap

[eager cloak]

I've heard people at shd 200 without prototype gear clear T10.
This either means prototype gears are really not 100% needed for escalation mode, or prototype gears are really meh.

[inland hound]

It's not needed at all, it's not a need. Just a want, if you want it farm it. But I already cleared all legendary content and soloed tiers up to 10 without prototypes

But a lot of new players are falling into that proto trap.

[woeful cloak]

should have made classified gear instead lol

[inland hound]

Now with targeted it's wayyyy better, for new players to farm out a juicy striker proto

[eager cloak]

Yeah, back at the TU8 days, we still beat legendary contents without issue. That was the time where there was no optimization and expertise. Not even mention prototype gears.

[woeful cloak]

idk maybe its just me but a new player shouldnt have access to proto

[inland hound]

^^^^

We need pre reqs to be able to go into escalation atleast

[woeful cloak]

30 expertise for example

[inland hound]

Like at least 1k Shd/30 expertise or cleared the campaign fully or cleared a legendary strongholds.. multiple times.

Something that proves you are ready for the content.

[lone glacier]

Finish all 5 legendary missions

[inland hound]

Factss

[woeful cloak]

that would make the most sense in my opinion

[livid sorrel]

if expertise 30 wasn't a slog sure

[inland hound]

It's frustrating carrying 100-1k Shd through escalation because I'm to lazy to wait 3 mins to be able to remove them from my party 😭

[woeful cloak]

its a grind lol thats the point

[livid sorrel]

great, so do terrible grind so you can do terrible grind

[strong cave]

With the way division is lately, if feels like they're trying to rush along new players. Which is a very weird feeling from the developers

Examples of this are from the very recent expertise events. We have had a multitude of them

[inland hound]

Could be a massive "catch up" for something big in the future who knowssss

[strong cave]

They make this new veteran end game content but they're pushing along new events to kind of boost along newer players to get closer to that content. It feels kind of hypocritical

[woeful cloak]

dosent make rly sense

[strong cave]

With the information that I am currently sitting on, there is not much plan for the future right now. Cross play is likely going to end up being delayed

[livid sorrel]

Most of the devs are probably working on div3 at this point

[strong cave]

Currently right now they're working on the new DLC and the new incursion

[inland hound]

I originally thought prototype was gonna be only for the elite players already expertise 30 already done with all the content and needed something new.
Not allow brand new lvl 40 agents who don't even know what expertise is farming prototypes day 1 👁️ 👄 👁️

[woeful cloak]

same and i though it will be its own game mode with new content like resistance in div 1 or so

[strong cave]

Yeah that was a pretty big developer oversight

[rain fox]

@strong cave that build you gave me one of the best I've ever uses and I've used alot of builds bro killed hunters on challenging countdown in like 6 shots without the intimidate chest piece as I was still trying to farm it solid build

It beats a head hunter version because you don't have to get headshots very easy to use

[strong cave]

I got you 👊💯

[rain fox]

Ye i would recommend that build to anyone trying to farm definitely but I did have to run a few countdown to get the backpack with right rolls other than that easy to build ill be enjoy that build today appreciate it

[subtle bluff]

A Skill Tier isn’t the same as a Core Attribute is what you’re getting confused on with CS.

[rain fox]

Ye so if you run red or blue you get 15 skill efficiency right

[distant apex]

Is there a up to date spreadsheet with all the current best builds?

[soft crane]

check pins

[distant apex]

Checked the spreadsheet in the pinned comment. Nothing updated for Y8

[halcyon crater]

tbh, nothing changed to this season so anything that was updated last season is still valid in this

and all core ideas are the same

[distant apex]

Thank you. I have built the MrChow Obliterate setup and Memento version. Wanted to try something else but thought it would be outdated.

[subtle bluff]

TS and ND are good too

We have some updating to do but nothing really has changed too much meta wise.

[distant apex]

Working on a TS set, as I have a few exotic LMGs I'd like to try and level. I'm assuming ND is Negotiators? Never checked out that set so I'll have a look!

[subtle bluff]

I guess I should add on a escalation meta.

ND is very underrated

The current guide is kind outdated but it's only because the overdogs.

Big AL or Bluescreen is my go to for carrying leggos.

[distant apex]

Bluescreen is one I still need to try and get. Might try to make it with the Coyote setup first, then I can simply add overdogs if needed.

[rain fox]

Tipping scales seems to work with alot of guns that have decent mag size you stack up with lmg then I use my lex as main weapon I'm doing more damage then my striker setup it feels like

[timid oyster]

Hopefully i dont have to kill overworld mods to get the event cashes

[eager cloak]

Server is on, gogogo.

[eager cloak]

This week's escalation rotation is kind of suck.

[gentle lichen]

When is lincoln

[livid sorrel]

Since the kitsune squads split damage between them, I was thinking ND might be good against them

[gentle lichen]

Yurp

[eager cloak]

kitsune squads can be found in retaliation, I just met one.

But you can't interact with the lantern.

[noble pelican]

I've encountered/killed 4 of them now.. isn't it supposed to spawn the elite enmies afterwards?

[olive cosmos]

just pulled these

[soft crane]

That's weird, it's supposed to be God rolled.

Missing the 0.1%

[olive cosmos]

this guy

[flint arch]

turmoil often drops really close but not actually god rolled

[exotic talon]

has anyone tried centurion's scabbard + interchange and trader + striker yet

[eager cloak]

Paradox + Sheriff combo got nerfed.

[exotic talon]

what was the combo?

[shy willow]

Paradox seemed to proc per pellet on shotguns

Patch notes didn't mention a nerf so it's the first I've heard of it, would have to wait for corroboration

[exotic talon]

i thought anything proccing per pellet was intended

[fleet gulch]

For Striker's, what are the best named SMGs for the set, assuming shotgun for secondary?

[exotic talon]

dark winter

[livid sorrel]

backfire, chatterbox

[fleet gulch]

Roger that. I'm currently using Slingshot, is that towards the top or the bottom, y'all reckon?

[livid sorrel]

Probably towards the bottom, damage talents are huge

[fleet gulch]

Those are exotic, I asked for named specifically.

[livid sorrel]

my reading skill got emp'd

[exotic talon]

shut up nerd, [JAMMER PULSE]

[timid oyster]

Could a skill build work so i can farm challenging and heroic for these event cashes

[livid sorrel]

Sure, but the ronin is gonna hack your drone and turret

[shy willow]

So essentially, no

[fleet gulch]

@exotic talon @livid sorrel How good is the weapon handling overall for Dark Winter? I'm currently finding that Slingshot has a tougher time staying on target at longer range, even though it's got good optimal range.

[timid oyster]

Cause i cant farm with a striker dps build too squishy. Welp guess i doing the event on normal

[livid sorrel]

i mean smgs naturally have short range so you'll have to get in close

[fleet gulch]

I'd been thinking about trying an SMG + Sheriff with Strikers thing.

Not sure if there's any gear set that would work better, but Sheriff at least feels good to use.

[smoky latch]

Why do you wanna use a short range limited SMG with an unlimited range shotgun?

[fleet gulch]

Because it seems fun and I need to increase my expertise.

[smoky latch]

Alright

If it's for expertise, anything goes

[fleet gulch]

On a more general note though, do y'all know of any DPS builds centered around the Sheriff? Last time I asked, the only answer I got was a weird True Patriot thing.

[surreal elk]

so i got my first turnmoil, is it any good on the hotshot sniper?

[smoky latch]

Search for "Hotdogs"

Might use them in that build instead of HS kneepads

[lone wadi]

It’s great fun

less fun against kitsunebi tho with their shared hp pool

[smoky latch]

Idc much about keys, those come eventually. I just wanna have some fun with those Kistune kill squads

[lone glacier]

INF, for group content, what would you run instead of Killer on Tinkerer OD? Measured, Pressure Point or Frenzy?

[smoky latch]

Sadist and PP

With a fast firing LMG

Been using MK46 for that in forever. M249B works too

[lone glacier]

Alright

[fleet gulch]

I remember hearing someone say that Tinkerer is bugged where if you have determined on both guns, it can bypass helmeted enemies in one shot, is that so?

[jade tulip]

What currently seems to be the best way to get the special crate thingies?

[smoky latch]

This is build advice, wrong channel

[jade tulip]

SORRY

My bad, clicked the wrong channel. F

[flint arch]

we get assassinated if we discuss game exploits here

[smoky latch]

Tinkerer is always bugged and it appears it will always be lol

[jolly pagoda]

The game blessed me with a .1% off god roll turmoil

[earnest pendant]

Got the same thing lol

[minor grove]

Suppose to be max lol

[solar sable]

that's just for Lexington, Turmoil can come with .1% low

[tepid flume]

Is The Apartment a viable choice to run on a HF setup or should I just stick w/ Ouroboros/High End Killer SMG

[smoky latch]

It's not bad, also personal preference

[honest moss]

Going to re-ask this here as i didn't get an answer in general chat earlier, hope that is fine.

Is F.I just broken this season because of the extra armour? I'm almost always missing a tiny part of my bar and it causes my F.I boost to not activate

[smoky latch]

Not sure, sry

[tulip charm]

ty

[sinful narwhal]

looking for advice on a build for someone who is just coming back to the game after a multiple year hiatus and pointers on how to get the things i need to make the build happen

[tulip charm]

We have a build hub here in pinned comments. Most of the time ur grinding in countdown.

[keen plank]

Anyone tested the cherry blossom gun? BIS for tanky bosses or nah?

[keen plank]

Seems like it. I was playing with a dude using FI yesterday and his buff wouldn't activate half the time in retaliation

The extra mag size from the global modifier also seems to make some guns default to their original mag size from what I've noticed after a whike

[midnight steeple]

My first build after the same kind of thing was -
Armour - 4 piece Striker, equalizer, exodus gloves/coyote mask (all crit chance & damage up to 60%)
Weapons - st Elmo’s engine, full auto shotgun & quickstep pistol
My second build (I’m still grinding a good set) is tipping scales & bluescreen for the broken damage loop

[sinful narwhal]

i see St elmo's engine a lot in build guides i may try to farm for it or do whatever i have to to get it. thanks

[midnight steeple]

Countdown with assault rifles set as the targeted loot, or get lucky on a drop on floor 80+ at summit with assault rifles as loot like I did 😂

[sinful narwhal]

any recommended difficulty? i still have my muscle memory of how to play but idk how my current gear stacks up

[hazy steeple]

Challenging for Countdown.
Forget Heroic exists, the rolls are basically the same.

[midnight steeple]

This @sinful narwhal

[hazy steeple]

Just matchmake it and follow the biggest group, oh and don't forget to set the right TL (targeted loot). You can change it any time by opening the map.
(and don't use drones/hives/turrets. Hunters can hack them)

[sinful narwhal]

so might be a silly question but how do i select targeted loot, or do i pick it when i get into countdown?

[hazy steeple]

On PC, open the countdown map (hover over it) and hold "H".

[midnight steeple]

If you’re a reader go to the pins on this channel and use the spreadsheet 2 to find what you need, if not there’s always helpful people here

[hazy steeple]

also works for Retaliation, and Summit.

[sinful narwhal]

thanks alot for all the helpful info i really appreciate it 😄

[midnight steeple]

On Xbox it’s hover over the retaliation/summit/countdown and press either up or left (I can’t remember it’s just muscle memory at this point) and select whatever

[sinful narwhal]

im not doing any damage but this is at least fun lol

[midnight steeple]

I grinded 2-3 decent pieces of strikers gear on the world map/main missions before I started countdown, my damage at expertise lvl 2 is anywhere between 1mill - 1.2mill without trying too hard 😂

[sinful narwhal]

i have gotten three exotics since yesterday, got the striga just now from countdown. im probably going to go get some strikers before going again so i dont feel useless lo l

[midnight steeple]

I aimed for strikers with a decent amount of crit chance, any added crit chance mods too, till I realised how my SHD lvl worked and that I started pumping points into what I shouldn’t have 😂

[timid oyster]

Should i swap my strikers mask for coyote mask even if it drops my crit chance

[solar sable]

what mask are you using + mods and why do you think your chc will be affected negatively?

[timid oyster]

The strikers mask with a max rolled crit chance. Also cause my crit chance is in the mid 40's

[solar sable]

fk I just read that right lol

[solar sable]

low shd? do you have a max CHC mod?

[timid oyster]

214 shd. And heck no i do not

In not that lucky lol

[solar sable]

lmfao alright, I assume you're still playing Countdown or group activities so don't worry about your CHC getting hurt, Coyote's will suffice for a while until you optimize it and add a few max CHC mods

[timid oyster]

Nah im playing Solo, really burned on group activites due to me always being kicked

[solar sable]

what activities were you Matchmaking for?

[timid oyster]

Countdown. Missions ect ect

[solar sable]

If you're MM for Heroic Countdown, drop the difficulty to Challenging and don't MM any higher for anything

Intentionally, learn positioning, c2c, LoS to your advantage and awareness

[timid oyster]

It is challengeing. Still get dropped with no reason why?

Maybe its my shd level i dunno

[solar sable]

then you should make the lobbies and then matchmake so you're leader

[fervent oriole]

my striker build, anything specific i can focus/change?

[solar sable]

check the Lvl40 Starters Guide

[timid oyster]

Tried that once people left like literally

[fervent oriole]

Thanks

[shell heath]

s the backfire a good gun if so what build should i go for ?

[timid oyster]

Tf is backfire

[shell heath]

@solar sable can i use turmoil for this build or chestpeice for the perk?

[earnest pendant]

Kill the blue cores

[fervent oriole]

so full weapon damage?

[earnest pendant]

Yep

[fervent oriole]

oh okay i was under the assumption that running 2 or 3 blue cores was best for survivability

[solar sable]

hell no

[earnest pendant]

The best survivability is killing your enemies before they kill you

[fervent oriole]

true that

[shell heath]

lol got you thanks for the recommendation

[midnight steeple]

Some people are just assholes and don’t try to carry, best thing you can do is keep searching/making Countdown matches until you get a group, it’s not ideal but 5/8 matches will keep anyone

[timid oyster]

Oh is their a build where i can still be agvressive as hell and like have life leach?

[midnight steeple]

No idea, heartbreaker and skill builds are normally a go to-first build type

[midnight steeple]

Check the link on this if you’re having difficulties

[timid oyster]

I did

[lavish badger]

How did you make the hunter's logo appear in blue?

[solar sable]

colorblind settings (im not colorblind, it just gives a little visual advantage)

[lavish badger]

Thank you so much! I've noticed many times that other people have a different color, but I didn't know how to do it myself😅

[exotic talon]

if i put a red core on this is it decent at least

[solar sable]

it'll do imo

[surreal elk]

is the first bloom weapon any good? The one that drops from gear cache now?

[flint arch]

wdym it's completely bricked sir /j

[teal ibex]

first bloom proto. what perks would u like?🤔 atm got mag/head/stability. with 3 different perks. one is double damage

[silent storm]

Is bricked good or bad? Because I know bricked as being bad

[teal ibex]

also is it even possible to get lexington proto from it?

[twin knoll]

do you think this build would be viable for escalation?

[silent storm]

Tier 1 maybe

[twin knoll]

btw im doing this to benefit from bighorn's talent which means more headshot damage per headshot

[lone glacier]

Wont help in high tier

[onyx sage]

and how does that relate to core strength...

[silent storm]

And 6 Blue Core means no DMG and it is not going to stop you from getting dropped

[lone glacier]

nor will it help big horn

[twin knoll]

did you forget how the gearset works?

[onyx sage]

i think everyone here is talking about core strength being the issue

[lone glacier]

The gearset is trash for anything but PvP

NBB and CS are the newbie traps

[silent storm]

Armor builds in Escalation are a wasted slot

[lone glacier]

Just run full damage in escalations if you actually want to run escalations.

[onyx sage]

right back to you, core strength only cares about core attributes, which headshot damage is not

[silent storm]

This is an Escalation build

[lone glacier]

I would agree but Hollowman is too goated

[onyx sage]

unironically okay imo

[silent storm]

Hollowman is great as well

[onyx sage]

i think overdogs' weakness might show up more on higher tiers but i'll still take this

[silent storm]

Yeah OvD do kinda fall off around Lv 8

Depending on amount of Armor enemies have as well can bounce between Contractors and Fox's on per mission basis

[twin knoll]

this was an alternative one i had in mind but this allows me to use any weapon

since i can just change the attributes

[onyx sage]

so just to get this out of the way: having armor doesn't help in escalation

[silent storm]

I feel like this build is worse

[onyx sage]

just get rid of the misconception that it helps AT ALL

then we discuss further

[solar berry]

I wanna throw up thinking that’s good in escalation 😭

[twin knoll]

i sometimes ran this but it wasn't with bighorn, it was usually with st elmos

[solar berry]

And BP with 2+1 hsd wild 0% dropping for you

[flint arch]

at high tiers, enemies will health gate you instantly no matter how many blue cores you have.

you get to decide between dying instantly and dying instantly while indirectly pissing off your team. pick your poison

[onyx sage]

like you can just copy this, the important thing is no ninjabike and frenzy lmg

ninjabike doesn't really help you do more damage

[lone glacier]

You could have 24 blue cores and youd still be health gated by one shot probably

[onyx sage]

i hate that they neutered every sense of build diversity with escalation

[silent storm]

My current LMG is Strained and it is doing work so Frenzy isn't a necessity

[twin knoll]

would this work? ignore my 2nd weapon, im leveling its profiency up

[onyx sage]

it works

[silent storm]

Much better

[dawn bane]

does anyone know if devil's due drop from the gear caches for today's event?

[twin knoll]

only issue my crit chance isn't above 50%

[dawn bane]

just out of curiousity

[onyx sage]

that's what you get with bighorn

if you run bighorn you go all in on hsd

[twin knoll]

this is my current seasonal modifiers as well

[junior lagoon]

any consensus on modifiers for a red striker build ?

[rain fox]

If anyone is wondering if the first blossom is any good it absolutely shreds it's beating my lexington by a long shot against those katsumi guys and also in escalation

[onyx sage]

@broken edge

[twin knoll]

decided to swap to this even though i lose out on overdogs and the extra 100 stacks for strikers, this still gives 1.5 - 1.7 mil damage on a headshot at max stacks on bighorn but when combined with max stacks with strikers that becomes 2.3mil per headshot

[timid oyster]

Welp cyotes mask up my crit rate to 53%

Alao that didnt help cause i still got wrecked

[inner vapor]

how can I see this for my user?

[tall jackal]

That is build station a build tool for division 2. https://buildstation.app/

[timid oyster]

So i cant kill the fox dudes even on normal

[grizzled loom]

Like they’re too strong for you?

[short verge]

interesting talent, warhound/chungus armor breaker gun, then?

[queen mauve]

turmoil takes 50% of your damage and gives it to another enemy right?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[queen mauve]

it doesnt do an ADDITIONAL 50% damage to an enemy

[timid oyster]

Ya

[smoky latch]

It splits your weapon damage, 50% to your target and 50% to a randomly chosen NPCs within its 30m radius

[queen mauve]

mm

[grizzled loom]

So what’s the purpose of that

[twin knoll]

thats why i think no-one ever uses it

[queen mauve]

crowd control

[twin knoll]

plus there is a better weapon for that, pestilence

[queen mauve]

its still very good it let me solo my first legendary rogues with it

[smoky latch]

Many ppl misunderstand the talent and think it's an Uber item

[queen mauve]

no pestilence is still single target damage

turmoil does pestis job better than pesti

[twin knoll]

its talent though spreads to each enemy and it does up to 500% weapon damage per tick

[queen mauve]

max ive seen is 1.4 mil ticks and 1.4 mil ticks arent good

[twin knoll]

meaning you can just sit in cover and let each enemy die to the tick damage

[exotic talon]

compress red nullify and either convert or invest in a second stack

[grizzled garnet]

if your weapon does enough damage to ohk both of them it just saves time. not to say people use it but thats a way of using it.

[exotic talon]

if you think your weapon handling is good, convert to mag size for frenzy or headshot damage for dps

[twin knoll]

whats frenzy?

[exotic talon]

talent that adds damage and firerate on reload from empty depending on mag size

[queen mauve]

uncapped

[exotic talon]

if you can enable it, it leaves killer, strained and measured in the dust

[queen mauve]

you can get 75% firerate and damage easilly

[magic reef]

Got this out of my first cache, any recommended attachment setups?

[short verge]

takes your final weapon damage on an enemy, takes 50% of it, applies to another enemy (usually not fully armored chungus and sniper warhounds that still have their armor)

dream scenario is you have some tanky NPC in the middle of a room surrounded by other healthy npcs and you're able to magdump into their health bar, so you while you're damaging tanky enemy health bar, some other poor NPC dies somewhere in another corner of the room

effectiveness is obviously based on how much damage you can output and if you're in a position where you can safely magdump into a target

[queen mauve]

i see thats still really insane especially for solos

[twin knoll]

so for an lmg that has 260 rounds in its mag that would convert to 78% weapon damage and fire rate. or am i way off

[short verge]

yeah there's applications, i found mostly against BT drones and support stations

[queen mauve]

rn its the only passive that makes one tap sniper builds good against black tusk (those rat drone dogs)

[timid oyster]

I need somthing better than strikers shit gets me killed to much.

[queen mauve]

tipping scales

[short verge]

taking cover

[queen mauve]

no but in all honesty assuming youre not going into higher lv stuff heatbreakers

[grizzled garnet]

if youre getting killed its more an issue of positioning or playstyle rather than build

[twin knoll]

gonna go with this, memento does help with survivability

[cosmic idol]

Is it better to just run Striker with AR that has Flatline talent or Heartbreaker with Flatline AR?

[twin knoll]

heartbreaker requires headshots to stack its talent, striker seems the better choice

[queen mauve]

depends what kinda ar's you have but generally if you dont have somthn insane use flatline w technitian for pulse attachment

[grizzled garnet]

striker youre better off using killer

[grizzled garnet]

not really. people use technician for the linked laser

[queen mauve]

its me im ppl

[cosmic idol]

Thanks, just wanted an opinion since I use Pulse a lot

[grizzled garnet]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

this is the striker build guide

[twin knoll]

on normal ARs like lexington since exotics can't use pulse

[grizzled garnet]

but whos using heartbreaker with an exotic. usually it'd be lexi or kingbreaker

[queen mauve]

honestly turmoil is really good for high dps builds bcs like 12m dps split is still a good 6m

[twin knoll]

bighorn also works but not very well imo

[exotic talon]

even if you ran an exotic with it you would just
use the base pulse

[twin knoll]

or use blackout pulse

[cosmic idol]

If I were to make a tankier build with AR Flatline, would Red Core Heartbreaker be better or Blue Core Striker?

[queen mauve]

blue core heartbreaker

[cosmic idol]

Would the DPS be close to a Blue Core Striker?

[timid oyster]

Huh

[queen mauve]

what dps are you getting on a blue core striker

[exotic talon]

blue core striker is fun with bulwark tempest

[timid oyster]

How does that effect it

[queen mauve]

cant get shot if youre in a good spot

[grizzled garnet]

if youre standing infront of enemies trying to facetank them with a full red build then thats a positioning issue. no matter the build if you do that in high end content you'll die

[smoky latch]

The DPS counter in the range is broken, FYI. Turmoil only really makes sense in a HH build

[timid oyster]

I still die even when i am in cover. Or the last death trying to vault over cover but i went into it on the wrong side

[steady canopy]

Is this any good I got it from the cherry blossom cache

[queen mauve]

the point is to avoid situations that get you like that but thats gamesense and i struggle with it too

[timid oyster]

Yeah that i cant gain gamesence

[queen mauve]

everyone gets gamesense it comes from playing the game

[exotic talon]

quantum is funny and while dta isnt dttooc its not that bad
i would keep this until a better one comes along

[timid oyster]

Not me after playong on amd off for the past 5 years

[tulip charm]

Wait the new wep is prototype only?

[steady canopy]

I’m not sure. I don’t think so

[grizzled loom]

The new weapon? No

[tulip charm]

Nvm its a stupid low chance for any prototype drop

[gleaming sapphire]

What is the god roll for Lexington I’m new to the TD2 and get find it online

Or is it multiple rolls for multiple builds

[soft crane]

Every attributes are max rolled. It also comes with damage to target out of cover for its sub attribute which is the best option for any weapon. All you have to do is to change its talent to your liking.

[gleaming sapphire]

Oh okay so it’s perfekt thx

[timid oyster]

Think i can work with this poloce m4?

[paper bluff]

What is the best talent for lexington for striker build?

[willow sigil]

killer is good

[paper bluff]

Ok Will try

[smoky latch]

Always depends on your build and some other things

[willow sigil]

you want as high chc as you can if youre going to run it

are strech goals like this too? where the loot pool is large and diluted?

[smoky latch]

Yup

[willow sigil]

yeah theres no world im going to get a lex like this

[shy willow]

No chance if you don't try

[willow sigil]

at 2 crates an hour i dunno

[smoky latch]

Got two earlier. Just keep at it. You have three weeks

[willow sigil]

am i looking for just lex and turmoil?

[wheat pilot]

is lexington always like this or am i just extremely lucky 😳

[timid oyster]

Welp i take it i switch it to killer?

[plain nova]

Question.... +10% LMG or +5% rate or fire? OD LMG build. Obliterate vs perfect talent.

[wheat pilot]

okay i got my answer 😊

[upper yew]

any of you got a tank build for pve ? I want to try something new

[grizzled loom]

What re you looking for

[upper yew]

being unstopable

like an insane dmg reduction build or smth like that

[queen mauve]

foundry bullward

[grizzled loom]

I run core strength+imminence armaments with tempest, bulwark shield, and artificer hive

[livid sorrel]

i cannot in good conscience recommend tanks for any reason than messing around cause it just teaches people to do nothing and facetank in matchmaking but artificer hive with your shield is really good

[hazy steeple]

Yep, Lex is pre-godrolled!

[willow sigil]

i did not know that, maybe it wont be too bad then

[distant apex]

Can I run this for escalation? Looking at the build guide from MrChow, says the mask can be used. I do have overdogs, contractors and eagles gloves just in case.

[hazy steeple]

Open your caches, they'll spill into your stash and then you'll start to lose them.

free Heroic-quality loot is random, but hey, free loot.

[distant apex]

I wish I could just decon the caches lol

[hazy steeple]

Did Chow say to use the Pesti there?

[distant apex]

No I wasn't really sure what to use

[hazy steeple]

Oh, basically Strikers requires a "stacking gun". Most folks these days will use a zippy SMG or similar.

[distant apex]

I did just get this

[idle hawk]

What trait am I looking for on Lexington or what should I just put killer on it?

[livid sorrel]

yeah killer or measured for groups

[idle hawk]

Ty

[steady canopy]

Anyone else finding it really hard to get keys and to complete escalation missions solo

[livid sorrel]

yeah keys are rare for how often you get the kitsune squads

[hazy steeple]

Escalation Tier 0 missions are just base Heroic.
You aren't really meant to solo Eslacation anyway though, you'll find someone.

[steady canopy]

Ohh right I didn’t realise

[shy willow]

This is more of a general setup

[subtle bluff]

Even T2 isn’t anything special just they do lil more and have lil more HP.
It’s suppose to be harder if you’re not at the level that’s more of you thing vs it’s scaling.

[shy willow]

For escalations you certainly want the striker chest at higher tiers

[subtle bluff]

GOD damnit ok I need to make a Escalation Meta sections

[shy willow]

Would be pretty sweet

[subtle bluff]

🦉

It makes sense to do. There’s a lot of good question that isn’t easily answered.

The question is do I added it on to Striker or make a new guide.

[shy willow]

Perhaps a separate guide altogether

[subtle bluff]

Probably leave it in the strikers for now till I have more time with high tier escalation I think.

[shy willow]

A lot of stuff that new players are running has absolutely no place in the tiers they're at😭

In terms of individual pieces contractors, hollow man and birdies have extremely high value there

[distant apex]

Would I use a striker chest and then like Salvo holster?

[shy willow]

I use this but swap foxes to hollow man when appropriate

[distant apex]

I got foxes but they are not the best rolls. Guess I need to farm a max roll one. And I'm assuming they contractor gloves?

[shy willow]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

Since Frenzy is the meta for escalations, salvo doesn’t do too much with RoF already so high.

With Proto gear you’re looking to min max numbers out of status so things like Hallow, Contractors and Foxes.

My best note here Overdogs is can be more powerful than any one of those pieces BUT you do kind want to target the tiers to keep it active but also only 1 or 2 players should have it to clear up to lil guys while people focus the big ones.

[steady slate]

hi guys im a newer player and just got my first proto fron the event! wondering if anyone can recommend a build/gearset around statuses perhaps that can compliment this gun. it also has Breadbasket talent in case it matters

[subtle bluff]

BLT, Rav and swapping talents also have a spot here too.

[subtle bluff]

Stash it come back once you’re figure out the rest of the game.

[shy willow]

I HATE to burst your bubble but you will be better off with a better rolled high end

[subtle bluff]

It is not worth to try to build around…

[shy willow]

Breadbasket is terrible and first sight itself is kind of meh

[subtle bluff]

Are they getting proto gear from caches now?

[steady slate]

yeah the gear cache

[subtle bluff]

Dumb…. Good way to confuse new players..

[shy willow]

Yeah small chance for seasonal gear/gearset and first bloom

[subtle bluff]

I get it but also just dumb at the same time.

[distant apex]

So if nobody is using overdogs, ideally I'd want to use overdogs with like foxes in higher tier escalations

[subtle bluff]

30% amp isn’t small.

[shy willow]

I was on overdogs for quite a while but swapped off them because of the flipped target prioritisation in escalation

[subtle bluff]

If you’re willing to do follow it is powerful and useful.

It’s all heroics it much easier to use imo the only times it can be kind of hard is with skill prox out that you can’t see so

[lone wadi]

this actually works so well. was running a bunch of t10 today and had me on chungas and dogs w hollowman while the others with overdogs cleaned up the other ads

[subtle bluff]

My dumb ideas is one nego guy with overdogs, rav and ND chest and just DUMP into bosses with it all.

It’d be some lil numbers but to handle it all without getting some weird threat pull would be something.

[unreal remnant]

Finally got Turmoil and Lexington. It took 80 caches

[subtle bluff]

No actually try this unless you actually know how to use rav.

[unreal remnant]

wahts the best talent for Lexington? Killer?

[distant apex]

Killer is solo, measured if group

[unreal remnant]

so looks like I'll need another one. Thanks

[queen mauve]

what are key attr for lex

[hazy steeple]

@queen mauve Lex always drops with pre-godrolled Attributes.
Just pick the talent you want.
killer for solo, Measured for group, are the general "best" suggested options.

[queen mauve]

also omfg 80 cashes no bell ringer is bell ringer the lmg

[queen mauve]

better question then how many should i keep

[hazy steeple]

fill up your stash with Lex's.

that'll be a lexingTON.

[queen mauve]

thank you oh wise one

[hazy steeple]

Okay jokes aside, a few spares if you really want, but it's not the only choice for endgame AR's, and some argue it's a little overhyped.

[distant apex]

Why would we use Fox's on a striker build that generally uses AR's. Is it purely for the dmg out of cover?

[hazy steeple]

The "damage to specific weapon types" stats on gear are not as good as they look, since they're based off a weapons damage before red cores are added.
E.g. Fenris for AR's, is closer to 2-3%, than the full 10%.

[distant apex]

So something like this for say tier 6? Or should I keep Coyotes and use striker gloves or kneepads

[queen mauve]

so the tipping scales 4p does that work off of bullets shot time spent shooting or what

[solar berry]

Chest isn’t really a need unless your in legendary or heir tier escalations

[livid sorrel]

time spent shooting

[sinful narwhal]

should i farm for overdogs or memento first?

[solar berry]

Consistent shooting, like lmgs

[livid sorrel]

they did say tier 6

[queen mauve]

you can stack it to full with a pistol

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔

[solar berry]

Like nonstop shoot and reload?

[distant apex]

I was thinking like tier 6 and upwards. Unless equalizer still performes better until like tier 8+

[solar berry]

You should be fine, they are pretty squishy compared to like T3

[queen mauve]

yep

[distant apex]

So really, there is a never a time I would use strikers gloves, because all other options like overdogs, eagles, contractors are just better?

[solar berry]

Depends what you wanna use in your build

If solo, moment is great, overdoes is just better, coyotes mask is good, it depends on the person and playstyle. What they need or feel more comfortable with

[livid sorrel]

mask, gloves, holster, and kneepads are interchangeable depending on what your 5th and 6th pieces are

[solid idol]

Which of these should I recalibrate?

[magic pilot]

new gun doesnt seem very good

[strong cave]

It's ass

Optimist 2.0

[magic pilot]

i got one as a proto drop

[strong cave]

😬

[magic pilot]

named elite in the range at full health

to armor

[onyx sage]

time to make a first bloom one shot build

[lone wadi]

none, third stat and talent are both bad. youre better off crafting another one

[manic pollen]

Can someone help me with a question? I just got a Lexington from the season event cache and I got it up to expertise 30. I want prototype it but im unsure how or if it will change my stats that I have on it now. I dont want the dog to targets out of cover changed. I also still want killer as the talent. Does prototyping change any of that?

Dmg*

[inland hound]

Nothing changes there's only chances to get those attributes as God rolls (max stats)

[stray pond]

Negotiators dilemma, Zero F's chest and overdogs.

[manic pollen]

@inland hound ah I see, thank you so much for your help.

[inland hound]

1 stat is maxed 6% chance for 2 stats maxed 1 % for the God of all rolls

You cannot change the talent after protoing though. So make sure you have what you want

[manic pollen]

@inland hound perfect, thats what I needed clarification on.

[inland hound]

Killer for solo content, measured for group (you can still use killer for group aswell)

[manic pollen]

@inland hound yeah I wasnt sure if killer was the right move but after a bit of research im glad I went with it.

[inland hound]

i prefer killer anyday, i usually run-n-gun so im always keeping it active.

[manic pollen]

@inland hound same. I like the run and gun playstyle. 🔫 . Thanks again. 🙏

[inland hound]

Banshee pulse OP 👀

[subtle bluff]

very powerful

[agile gyro]

How are people farming sukura keys?

[inland hound]

Matchmaking>Open World Exploration>look for a group farming the event.

[subtle bluff]

that's very much a #ask-td2-community more than a #td2-build-advice
for next time

[inland hound]

latern spawns to help spawn squads.

[ivory abyss]

Is this first bloom AR poopy?

[smoky latch]

Haven't gotten one yet but seems mid

Nvm just got three

[merry stone]

whats the best talent for lexington on striker

[inland hound]

killer for solo content, Measured for sweaty group play. you can still use killer in group if you enjoy it.

[unreal remnant]

Whats the best turmoil build to get the ruins hunter mask?

[subtle bluff]

hotdog build with nemesis

[unreal remnant]

thanks

[gray narwhal]

Can someone tell me which talent is best to use on Lexington in the Striker/Compensator/Favorites build?

[livid sorrel]

what even are those

[livid sorrel]

killer for solo measured for groups

[smoky latch]

Compensator?

[solar sable]

compensator??? what??

[livid sorrel]

im assuming translation so compensator is equalizer but wtf is favorites

[smoky latch]

Ahhh could make sense

[livid sorrel]

overdogs??? how does overdogs translate to favorites

[hazy steeple]

Because they aren't over dogs!

[gray narwhal]

@solar sableportuguese name

[hazy steeple]

Post the original word in portugese, lemme take a crack at it.

[solar sable]

Overdogs in Spanish is Ganadores, which translates to Winners*... makes sense

[smoky latch]

Cojones!

One of the five Spanish words I know

[formal kraken]

What gearsets would yall recommend for pakhan

[smoky latch]

TS

[formal kraken]

Aight, should I swap some cores around? Mix red and blue? Use all red? All blue?

[smoky latch]

All red of course

If you need survivability use 1pc PS with crits so you can roll the core to WD

With Gunner spec that is 20% AoK

[formal kraken]

PS and WD?

[smoky latch]

Palisade Steelworks, the brand
WD = Weapon Damage, aka red core

[formal kraken]

Also am I using Memento like usual or do you recommend a different exotic?

[smoky latch]

An exotic is not necessary to have in any build, same goes for named items

[formal kraken]

Fair enough

[smoky latch]

You should use the TS backpack for increased damage

The chest is really optional, similar to the Striker's chest

Only ideal in certain situations

Overdogs however is a good option for that build in general gameplay

[soft crane]

Pakhan is slow LMG, Tipping Scale is fit for it.

[smoky latch]

Could run Salvo with it for +10% RoF

[soft crane]

If anything, Pakhan is more fit for lower difficulty.

[smoky latch]

Nah, I would not use it in legendary myself but heroic perfectly fine

[onyx sage]

Un forastero!!

wait that's Ganado, nvm

[wanton rover]

first bloom or lexington for dps ?

[inland hound]

killer lex any day for me, but of course i'll still use the bloom.

[iron flame]

Whats the most optimal hotshot build to min max the xp event 🤔

[lone wadi]

consider using turmoil when enemy veterancy is low ( like in NBA)

[drifting raptor]

What would be the ideal talent for the Lexington for escalation?

[smoky latch]

You will need a LMG for higher tiers

Measured is nice for group play

[dawn perch]

okay i have a small problem to solve with my current build. I can't figure out how to get more sustain on it. Currently it is really good and can one man army some room of leggies but i do run out of health kits.

[eager cloak]

Use Cloud Armor active modifier then.

[livid sorrel]

Can't really see much ways beyond running gunner for AoK or switching to Refactor

[eager cloak]

Also, keep an eye out for whitetusk support, destroying their lunch box gives one repair kit.

[pine oracle]

Turmoil for Hotshot kneepads, then just run the 2pc or Switch one of the others to hotshot to have 3pc Bonus ?

[lone wadi]

this is my normal sniper build

when i farm nba i just switch to this

[solar sable]

I would drop ovd and use 3pc

[pine oracle]

Hotshot over Breaking Point when using 1886 ?

[solar sable]

BP

[lone wadi]

ive had more success with overdogs

theres only 5 enemy types in nba anyway, normal, bomber, foam, engineer, rusher

and engineer and foam each appear only once

[lone wadi]

im lazy

and hotshot does enough

[dawn perch]

So thwre is not much else outside of redesign of the build?

[lone wadi]

use a healing skill?

[dawn perch]

Subbing out the turret? For a heal? The both of them do cause alot aggro to be shift towards them though. I did try sub drone for a heal but was taking a lot of damage though.

[lone wadi]

it also looks like you have some random blue or yellow substats, not sure what those do

[dawn perch]

Some parts are from unoptimzed gear as i put thos build together as a test. The yellow to slightly boost thr skill damage mostly.

[lone wadi]

not sure if learning into skill damg would be the move since everything else on the build it geared towards weapon

[exotic talon]

just switch to capacitor and a pummel or brazen shotgun

[dawn perch]

I do not have capacitor out at moment would not be able assess it. Is capaictor talent additive? Plus, the issue is that i do attricted to death.

[eager cloak]

This build is already tanky than almost all of the non-tank build, I don't know why you still want to have more sustain.
Change your Lex's talent to Preservation then, you want more tankiness, sacrifice must be made.

[livid sorrel]

just refactor honestly, core strength isn't that good

[eager cloak]

Or prototype your gear to have that skill damage -> heal augment, forgot the name. Since you use Turret / drone anyway.

[subtle bluff]

0.o

[summer totem]

Cant tell if this is good or not

I got it from sakura chests how do you recalibrate the stats

[livid sorrel]

You can't

[summer totem]

Damn that sucks then

[hazy steeple]

The 3rd attribute is the one that matters on guns btw, the first 2 don't change.

[grand girder]

glitched out lockdown disagrees

[hazy steeple]

You'll notice the words "glitchd out" are in there.

[livid sorrel]

True, proto first blooms seem to be relatively more common so there's not much variation there

[hazy steeple]

Just think of it as a free Proto Core. They are quite useful.

[dawn perch]

It is tanky though. Just mostly adjusting it. Also, i do take lot of damage in general. I am still not very good at pizza slice method so just take the whole room worth of damage when drone are not up.

[unique fox]

now i can do one shot double kill scenario using this 😊

[scenic quest]

What’s a good pair of high end gloves for a ar dps build

[solar sable]

ceska, grupo
what does your build look like?

[scenic quest]

This is it so far

[solar sable]

is that for Escalation?

[scenic quest]

It just my all round atm I want to get a heartbreaker set soon for something different

[solar sable]

Swap Strikers chest for Equalizer, gloves for Strikers, I would ditch Harrier as it's pretty useless and instead I would use Coyote's or go Overdogs. If you want a better exotic bag, go Memento 4pc Strikers and Equalizer or Ceska

[scenic quest]

What gear brand is equalizer ?

[solar sable]

Unit Alloys

[warm lagoon]

I could of swore i saw a build that uses the Pestilence amd Turmoil Kneepads. I cant seem to find it now. Whats a good gear set to use with them?

[solar sable]

Pesti and Turmoil is a no go, it doesn't synergize at all nor is it good
For max Pesti ticks use CoCo or the unicorn HE setup, both are in the pinned Spreadsheet

[warm lagoon]

Okay, thanks

[noble pelican]

Apparently I'm healing enemies.. overflowing variables issue, i guess?

[subtle bluff]

The counter is done by 32 int

So after 128 billion it goes backwards

[wanton hornet]

Any reccomendation for Negotiators other than 4p+overdogs+petrov?

[dark horizon]

Bro what

BRO WHAT

is first bloom good?

[subtle bluff]

Not using petrov and using an equalizer.

[untold fulcrum]

Is the new Exotic mask good? Just got one with red core, crit, crit dmg and armor reg. But how useful is it?

[subtle bluff]

If you happen to get one with all crit it is good but the rng for that rather low.

otherwise not that great.

[untold fulcrum]

The one I got has Crit and Crit damage

[strong cave]

It's kinda bad

The talent offers little to nothing. Any other talent would outperform it

[vernal gazelle]

bruh has luck deluxe

[exotic talon]

im assuming first bloom is based on health without counting armor, which would make it an armor shredder

[livid sorrel]

the talent says health and armor iirc

[noble pelican]

It's..

3.3% more damage for each 10% of total HP and Armor the enemy has remaining

[patent fossil]

Does it count armour plate health though

[ivory abyss]

so its like 29% damage at 90% and continues to lower as the HP lowers

but its not amp damage

[exotic talon]

yeah but is this like
100% is full hp and armor, or is it 200%

[noble pelican]

It reads like it's 66% at 100% health + 100% armor, but somebody would need to test that.

[ivory abyss]

Even in best case scenario how good is it tho

[exotic talon]

if its 66% at full health and armor it still does a minimum of +33% to armor

[patent fossil]

Think it IS amp damage but it appears as a second hit (a bit like turmoil) instead of just increasing the number on your main hit

[gentle lichen]

it's weird i thought the damage would lower the more you lowered the enemy's hp but i just didn't see it happen in practice

[noble pelican]

I'm logging in right now to do some tests.

[patent fossil]

Try shooting a single bullet at a time

[gentle lichen]

also this is such a lucky roll

[exotic talon]

i wonder if theyre experimenting with bringing resurgence's multishot chance to mainline

[flint arch]

lmao full red investor from the caches

Can't wait to use a mask that's marginally better than Coyote's

[gentle lichen]

better? isn't coyote better crit quality overall than investor

[patent fossil]

Better by one handling stat at the cost of mod slot

[flint arch]

oh wait i forgot about that

[patent fossil]

Coyote mid range is worth 30 chd

[noble pelican]

Coyote has drastically higher potential crit value, due to having a mod slot, yea.
Investor is just more consistent and has handling.

[ivory abyss]

assume best case for first bloom, how good is it

[exotic talon]

i think its unfair to compare the two when coyote is best used in a case where you can get at least two buffs at once

[flint arch]

kinda held back by the fact first bloom is a PDR

[exotic talon]

one isnt much better than the other they just have different use cases

[gentle lichen]

okay so bloom just does another instance of its damage as the amplifier

[ivory abyss]

so its mid even under best assumptions

[gentle lichen]

also the accuracy is just eugh

maybe im too lex pilled

[lucid forge]

No it's meh

[noble pelican]

It's definitely not stacking the 100% from health and armor; Hitting for ~430k on the head, against armored enemies, creates an extra instance of ~120k.

[subtle bluff]

And regen... getting one roll that give the most CHC or CHD is what I'm talking about the one you have is meh because either Ceska or Grupo give more than that exo piece.

[flint arch]

finally got echo

[noble pelican]

Yeah a couple more tests and it definitely caps at 33% of the original damage, based on current health/armor; At 100% health and 30% armor, you basically get the bonus of 30% only; not 130%.

[subtle bluff]

so it is amp

[noble pelican]

Yea it's up to 33% amp, displayed as a second instance of damage.

[subtle bluff]

it makes sense.

I wonder how it works with ND.

[mortal heath]

4 hour farm on darpa, yesterday

[ivory abyss]

no maxed strikers stuff? what T did you do

[mortal heath]

im not level 1000 , expertise lvl 15 😂

[ivory abyss]

I think I heard T8-10 has good chances for maxed rolls

but thats still cool you got the all reds!

[mortal heath]

yep and almost full echo

[exotic talon]

gear shift agitator is a weird combo, maybe you should go with trader or interchange to spice up agitator

[haughty harness]

Is this the CN version

[subtle bluff]

No. He just has his language setup in CN.

[exotic talon]

just in a very chinese time of his life

[nimble moss]

Hey, what's the "bis" talent for lexington ? I heard killer but I mostly playing in group with randoms. Is there something better - or just go killer ?

Isnt the one that gives 10% crit damage each time you shoot, x5 (so 50%) better in group play ?

[mortal heath]

Agitator is a placeholder until i get lexington

[exotic talon]

depends on your build
crit striker, killer strained measured
heartbreaker, the pulse talent
eclipse, whatever status you use (pulse doesnt work with it)

i personally use strained which is the crit dmg as you keep shooting talent

[nimble moss]

Right, I play crit striker. Yeah I was thinking about strained (didnt know the name in english lol) cause it's a talent that has value 100% of the time 🤔

[exotic talon]

might as well make the most of it until then is what im saying

[soft crane]

Can someone show me a max rolled prototype striker piece?

[mortal heath]

Im mainly using gear shift and agitator just gives me the less threat talent, but i might try other options

[vernal gazelle]

50$ for the seasonpass bundle is crazy

its not even a expansion

[inland hound]

hey, some people are made of money 👀

[noble pelican]

Are the current rates for proto gear in escalation also not working correctly?
I've seen the rates on Reddit and my drops.. don't match that by like a factor of 10. lol

[summer totem]

Anyone got a good ar shotgun pvp build?

[flint arch]

you'll have better luck asking in #td2-pvp-discussions

[summer totem]

Thankss

[inland hound]

the drop rates were increased, if anything they are dropping like candy now.

[noble pelican]

Oh, I don't mean that my chances feel lower; The opposite is the case.
I just left a T3 with like 10 pieces.

Which shouldn't be the case, even after the increase.

[inland hound]

they might be working to well, i was farming t5's and got 5+ a run consistently.

[halcyon sentinel]

this one used?

[pliant pelican]

is there any fun builds around First blooms? this thing do be intresting.

[untold fulcrum]

What specialization do people use for striker builds?

[pliant pelican]

gunner is the most common one

[inland hound]

gunner for banshee pulses, allows run-n-gunning in alot of content

[haughty harness]

Gotta get the social credits up

[versed summit]

Mostly for the armor on kill tbh

[inland hound]

i barely notice it in escalation when 1 shot strips me bare. so yeah, i'll use it for banshee to prevent that 1 shot on my armor

[misty walrus]

Manny, you need to chill tf out

[versed summit]

Escalation its more for ammo regen tbh

[cinder girder]

Best attributes for the Lexington?

[jaunty surge]

Comes with standard ones. I like Flatline with Striker's.

[misty walrus]

dmg to target out of cover

[cinder girder]

What should i swap health damage out for?

[flint arch]

you can't change it, the 1st and 2nd attribute of all weapons are fixed

[cinder girder]

oh rip

So i wanna get one with maxed AR Damage and CHD/C?

[flint arch]

no, dttooc is BiS

[subtle bluff]

Not really. You want to change the talent.

[flint arch]

also that

will chow kill me if i recommend back and forth

[cinder girder]

So i'm aussing the health damage is fine on it?

I mean i can't change it obviously but 😂 not sure if it comes with a different core attribute

[flint arch]

technically capacitor comes with DTA as its 2nd attribute for some reason

DTH will apply to all red enemies and armor plates (not the white bars, the stuff that tanks wear. for some reason DTA doesn't do anything to them, only DTH)

so its not as useless as it seems

[inland hound]

lexingtons come God rolled no matter what, all you do is change the Talent to your liking.

[cinder girder]

Awh dang i thought i just got lucky with the rolls lmao

[inland hound]

Killer so solo, Measured for sweaty group. (i still use killer in groups because i just prefer it with my playstyle)

[cinder girder]

That's a talent i presume?

[inland hound]

yes

[cinder girder]

I've been out of the game for over 2 years so i'm getting back into things

[exotic talon]

probably because its for skill builds and not every damage skill can chew through armor

[cinder girder]

Thanks

[soft crane]

Have you ever heard Manny raging?

Then his wife be like: Calm tf down.

[paper bluff]

Guys for cleaning all lanterns. If we do it in a group in someone's session does it still count under your personal progress?

[shy willow]

The AI is right this time but I wouldn't trust it in general

It is shockingly wrong about basically everything

[halcyon sentinel]

is this always max out?

[next dawn]

Yes

[halcyon sentinel]

oh dang

[nimble moss]

yeah only thing that is different is talent each time

[halcyon sentinel]

what the usual for it?

[inland hound]

killer for solo, Measured for group play.

[exotic talon]

strained

[inland hound]

solid option aswell^

[exotic talon]

im a strained truther its not dependent on rng like killer nor makes you adjust how you handle the gun like measured

[finite basin]

I've been using 2 pieces of unit alloy for perfect abliterate and 3 pieces of strikers with ninja bike 🏍, its working out but I feel like i could be doing better... is there a geared recommendation?

[soft crane]

Just change the talent to your liking.

Whatever you need for your current build.

[soft crane]

yeah, drop the ninjabike and use strikers backpack instead

[finite basin]

Dont I need an exotic? Isn't the ninjabike giving me 4x striker and 3x unit alloy good tho?

Why would dropping the NB for a strikers and losing the +1 alloy and strikers be beneficial?

[halcyon sentinel]

okay i have so much stuff after opening cache, i dont know what should donate or trash it

[exotic talon]

4pc striker with backpack, equalizer, overdogs

also you dont always need an exotic

[ivory abyss]

Because ninja bike gives you the 4 piece bonus. It doesn’t give you the talent from the strikers pack where the power comes from. That’s why

[finite basin]

Huh really? I guess im still thinking of how destiny is played

[finite basin]

Whaaa I thought it did too fuuuuu me

Okay that makes sense

[ivory abyss]

If you want an exotic. Use coyotes mask or overdog gloves

[finite basin]

I've been cooking myself omg 😭

[exotic talon]

you can also just do equalizer salvo for the AR damage and 10% rof

[willow sigil]

It depends, do you want 25% weapon damage or 50% mag size, that's what it comes down to

[finite basin]

I've been going with wpn dmg over mag size

Usually run an ar with an lmg so 🤷🏽‍♂️ elmos with mk46 or a lexington with big Alejandro

[willow sigil]

Both work for whatever heroic content you are doing, one is just objectivity stronger than the other

[exotic talon]

overdogs is 30% and its damage amp aka applies after weapon damage

[willow sigil]

That's if they decide to use od

[rancid terrace]

I’m shd 100 and my build is either striker and unit alloys chest and holster or core strength with tier 6 skills. Is there any other things you guys suggest to optimise

[exotic talon]

striker overdogs is as busted as it is because theyre two different damage amps

[ivory abyss]

There’s like 3 or 4 striker variants you could use that are way better than using ninja bike bag with strikers lol

[exotic talon]

big al goes insane with 4pc striker bag + chest, overdogs and turmoil/ceska or fox's prayer

[finite basin]

Thank you guys so much

I hate life I was running that pretty much but I watched a video saying NB saves space so I swapped

[rancid terrace]

Is the Lexington worth the farm over st Elmo’s

[ivory abyss]

Ninja bike imo is more for PvP builds

[exotic talon]

also dont beat yourself up over using nbb, its a noob trap unless you know exactly what you want it for

[finite basin]

Thats fair

[willow sigil]

It does at the cost of raw damage

[exotic talon]

which is usually stat boost minmaxing for pvp

[finite basin]

We want dmg

So much dmg

[ivory abyss]

Yes

[inland hound]

both are very useful guns that i use all the time still.

[exotic talon]

ninjabike also works with the new core strength set

[inland hound]

i whip out my elmos so fast if i hear the rouge agents que

then put it away right after 👀

[finite basin]

What i would do for a cool skin for it

I like its default but I just want variety haha

[hazy steeple]

What about for Rogue Agents?

[inland hound]

theres 1 skin that changes the look, i dont use it enough to buy it though

[finite basin]

Yea... I dont really like it haha

I like elmos but I also like big Alejandro so getting the lexington was exciting

[exotic talon]

hotswapping to my hotshot oneshot build like a runescape pvp sweat going from their crossbow gear to godsword

[inland hound]

this is me with btsu and birdies in t6 escalations lmao

man knows ball lmao

[finite basin]

This a sniper build?

I wanted to build one of those next 😤😭

[exotic talon]

yeah, 3pc hotshot, perfect glass cannon and vigilance, overdogs, shroud

[finite basin]

I love you

[exotic talon]

overdogs and shroud both activate in rogue agent encounters because theyre the only enemy

[ornate vault]

did you get the mask, I am looking for party haha

[finite basin]

Shroud looks sick! I just got a giant looking exotic rifle something about 0-100% dmg

Looks cool I was gonna try it

[next dawn]

Nemesis

[zealous axle]

ik this is a stupid question, but could you get chd and chc on the same chest piece?

[inland hound]

yes

[zealous axle]

ok, i forgot if you could or not

[halcyon sentinel]

what the good attachment for lexinton killer?

[exotic talon]

depends on your crit stats but the crit damage grip is for certain
depending on your chc*chd calculation you will need to switch between the crit chance and crit damage scopes and muzzles

[halcyon sentinel]

i see thanks

[hazy steeple]

It's best overall to use gun mods for crit chance, especially with prototype rolls being able to possibly max it out faster these days.
attribute rolls get more CHD, so you know what they're for.
anything you don't need CHC on, fire it into WH for a usage buff.

[exotic talon]

the crit scope can zoom in too so thats cool

[hazy steeple]

There is a non-scope CHC mod too, just an FYI. scroll down a bit.

most gun mods come from farming CP's at Lvl 3/4.

(and of course, your mag is always the +20 one)

[finite basin]

This dev looks cool 😭

[hazy steeple]

Not a dev.
devs don't have what is basically "a dev honest trust me" as their name.

[finite basin]

😭😭😭😭😭

But he looks so cool

[exotic talon]

the small red dot looks so goofy on anything except smgs i pretend i do not see it

[hazy steeple]

Once you start cranking up Proto rolls for your gear, you'll find the ability to drop CHC mods on guns coming into play.
It feels weird, but there it is.

[mighty orchid]

What passive modifiers to use with blackout pulse?

[urban bay]

Hi ! Any advice for my builds ? just thinking to remove overdogs

[livid sorrel]

are these for escalation?

[trim matrix]

just got this lexington from the gear cache, also my first, does this work well with tipping scales?

[livid sorrel]

tipping scales is an LMG gearset, it won't work that well

[trim matrix]

so better with striker then

[urban bay]

yep, escal or retal sometimes

[livid sorrel]

outside of high diffs like legendary/master/escalation striker chest isn't that useful, use equalizer named chest/ceska obliterate chest
turmoil cuts your damage in half, not really useful

tipping scales chest isn't that good either

[finite basin]

Whenever I take off NB and hover over my 3x strikers the extra trait is not high highlighted whenever I re equip NB the 4th trait is highlighted saying its giving me said bonus. Im not really understanding

I thought NB doesn't give me the gear sets ability?my fault im not reading

[urban bay]

i see ty, i have to keep it for escalation but equalizer for all others activity

[livid sorrel]

NBB does give gearset talents

[next dawn]

it gives the gearset ability for the gear set backpack talent

[finite basin]

Okay I was told it gives the perks but not the talent

thank you

[exotic talon]

nbb fills in gear and brand set slots
it will activate striker but it wont give you the striker backpack talent which is important

[next dawn]

if only NBB also gave the backpack talent it would be god tier

[livid sorrel]

it would be broken

[finite basin]

Ooooh I think thats what they were telling me

[tall jackal]

NBB is a newbie trap

[finite basin]

I see where I was confused

[next dawn]

good I want a new build meta

[livid sorrel]

It's just gonna be new for like 1 day before everyone figures out the meta setup

[next dawn]

Ofc

How you doing btw

[lone glacier]

just like CS

[livid sorrel]

I just assume CS NBB builds are for pvp

[silent grove]

i used think it was good till i found out its meh

[fair adder]

other than lexington and quickstep, what are worth farming on the event?

[naive horizon]

Hey guys. Question. My liquid engineer rolled with armor regen and status. I rerolled it to chd. For a backfire catalyst build would armor regen and chd be viable in higher end content if that makes sense?

[next dawn]

Turmoil knee pads if you dont already have them

[twilit geyser]

Crazy on my 3rd cache of the event look what they gave me 🤣

[next dawn]

A Lexington found its new owner

[twilit geyser]

My very first one too lol

[next dawn]

Nice

[twilit geyser]

Opened another and got this guess I’m just blessed today

Nvm didn’t know they come maxed 🤣

[next dawn]

Lol

[soft crane]

and with DTOOC as well.

Just need to change the talent to your liking or whatever build you're currently using.

[eager cloak]

Hello pro gamers, found this OD backpack in DARPA lab.
Does Bleed build work?

[soft crane]

Dont think so. Never see OD build that uses mortar turret or any other skill that can cause bleed.

[tall jackal]

OD is bleed, it gives bleed bullets

[patent fossil]

Bleed does too low damage to be worth building into, its use in OD is just to proc the amplified damage

[soft crane]

Now that I think about it, theres no build that focuses on damaging the enemy with Bleed. Mortar turret is part of explosive build.

[smoky latch]

You want to run OD as DPS build, never as status effect build

[soft crane]

smh my head.

Oh god @patent fossil

Wake up bruh.

[upper yew]

im going with 4pc red core strenght and 2pc hard wired, am I cooking ? (I didnt finalize the build yet)

[flint arch]

no

[lament reef]

very unlucky, that could have been a great piece
the backpack is terrible unfortunately

[grim bluff]

What's the tinkerer combo for LMGs & striker? Frenzy/Strained?

[soft crane]

Measured + Strained

[analog mural]

frenzy + fast hands is solid on strikers so u can become an ac130

[magic pilot]

uhhhhh

frenzy/measured. ranger is good too

[analog mural]

yea ive been using this one too

measured feels kinda weird tho

[dawn perch]

Is there way to modify a build so that they do not need to kill to get their buffs? LIke I have core strength and striker build which struggle to get kill in group play with people who are more aggressive than me. Basically half my kit and damage is turn off as I can't momento stacks

[smoky latch]

CS can't compete at all with a real DPS build

[grim bluff]

Yeah don't use memento, use 4pc striker inc backpack, equalizer chest, then it's stacks on shooting stuff not kills. Core strength isn't very good for damage

[flint arch]

you can modify it by just running striker

[true spoke]

Hi,
does anyone know a build which is able to hold its position against LMG/Frenzy-Striker? I know striker is the best and i know that with the current new gears striker outperforms everything even more and that massive can delete nearly every other DPS set, because its useless against current striker-meta even more than in the last 6 years.

But i do not like striker. And i am looking for a build played with a rifle (i think UIC15) or Sniper (G28, etc) with autofire which does not make me a burden to the group and can do every content up to escapation 3-4. Above this even i see i had to use striker.

My current builds are OD without bleeding but with wicked and sadist. And a critdamage-build with 3 Providence, ceska, gs and fox with flatline, spotter and composure. Why this talents? Because of the uptimes. Vigi is stronger on paper, but how long is this buff active? How long do you take no damage? Or also strained or obliterate.

Do you have any other good ideas? Currently with spreedsheet i make 7-8Mio DPS with Rifle. In the shootingrange its more arround 6mio. My goal is to go over 10mio if its possible. I calculate with bodyshots, because headshots are nice, but if you can not garantee them, they are no dps boost or even a loss. So headshot is bonus and great, but nothing importent to my build.

In general i really hate how strong massive pushed the meta to LMG. I mean every other weapon has no real case to exist. LMG can everything better. And this is the massive RPM-Items/Buffs we got, the great LMG-talents. I mean which weapon has a unique talent which gives 45% weapondamage and RoF with no downside and with M249 and uptime of 100%... their is no other talent in this game, no exo, no chest or backpack talent which can challange this.

[soft crane]

What the

[dawn perch]

i said this happen with striker as well. Its not core strength's fault

[flint arch]

that's a problem with your build then, standard striker should be able to do its job without having to kill 30 enemies first

[smoky latch]

I see more ppl running ARs than LMGs lol

[grim bluff]

Yeah and I said don't use memento, if you need something that relies on kills you're not getting then it has no value. Striker backpack gives you immediate value

[soft crane]

You know you could just ask for a MMR oneshot build.

Instead of typing an entire novel.

[dawn perch]

there are some extremes where i do not even get hits (or barely) at time even.

[true spoke]

her is right. In a group playing or having items/talents which need kills is a waste of damage. Because you do not make kills for sure

[grim bluff]

What difficulty are you playing on?

[dawn perch]

heroic and above but our dps are so aggresive that I might sometimes just not get much value

[grim bluff]

It just sounds like, and this isn't meant as an insult, that the people you're playing with are just better than you in terms of targetting and gear

[dawn perch]

I normally play support builds honestly and tank build for that reason

On solo heroic and legendary I am capable to pushing though. (with legendary i am taking a bit of time clearing rooms though)

[pine oracle]

hey guys im tryn puttin something togheter so i can face tank the ronins / named elite. i have the scorpion and right now 4x with chest, chill out mask and a backpag with adrenalin rush, for attributes should i aim for armor regen or hazard protection what would be more effective ?

[normal shadow]

There's nothing wrong with playing support, on the contrary.

[smoky latch]

I would not mention this here as it's against the server rules

[dawn perch]

True. I just do not get lot of value from my kit unless i play support in group play. I usually get punished when I play aggressively honestly, so I shoot from much longer ranges at much smaller targets.

[halcyon sentinel]

got a bunch of investor mask, what the attribute should i keep?

[pine oracle]

ok beside that what attribute is the goat in fakt of tanking

[smoky latch]

You don't need HazPro nor much Armor Regen