td2-build-advice

[summer totem]

Get dmg out of cover instead of that

Get another st Elmo's or craft it if you have blueprint

Long term dmg out of cover is a must at least to me

[woeful chasm]

The blueprint unlocks at the vendor if owning the st elmo

[summer totem]

Will the st elmo skin have a different effect? Planning to buy it

[woeful forge]

which big al is better for a striker build?

[balmy widget]

already, just need to farm mats tho

[summer totem]

First one definitely

[summer totem]

Do heroic control points

Or retals

Specifically true son's

[balmy widget]

challenging is confortable enough, i tried heroic once and got kicked hard

[summer totem]

Use sniper build

[next dawn]

None you want crit hit damage

[balmy widget]

I love the shield tho

[summer totem]

Im not really that good but someone here gave me a sniper build to follow and i ended up soloing heroic control points

Took me at least a week and half to get to shd 300 including doing tasks etc

[balmy widget]

I have played near a month since reaching lv40

[summer totem]

Damn

[soft crane]

mmhmm

[soft crane]

you got the blueprint for Alejandro?

I got lyrics for Alejandro

Don't call my name, don't call my name
Alejandro
I'm not your babe, I'm not your babe
Fernando
Don't wanna kiss, don't wanna touch
Just smoke my cigarette and hush
Don't call my name, don't call my name
Roberto
Alejandro, Alejandro
Ale-Alejandro, Ale-Alejandro
Alejandro, Alejandro
Ale-Alejandro, Ale-Alejandro

[balmy widget]

nonstop 2hrs grind everyday, not much time tho

[strong cave]

It's not. Crit chance is best as 3rd attribute

Not every enemy has armor but every enemy can be hit with a critical hit. Always go crit chance as 3rd attribute on LMGs. Allows you to pile crit damage. Also, on big al, it has zero crit mods. You'll be very crit starved without crit chance

The same logic applies to Pestilence/Bluescreen

[summer totem]

Wouldn't the maxed out dmg and dmg out of cover make up for it or nah

[soft crane]

Oh there you are. I swear I couldnt find the blueprint yesterday.

[strong cave]

No. Like I said, if the enemy has no armor, it's a useless stat. Better to go with crit chance

Crit chance = applies to everything.

Damage to Armor = only applies to enemies that have white bars

DTA is only good in niche cases or in pvp (where everyone has armor)

[soft crane]

HA! Got em... First try.

[summer totem]

Also did they fix the nemesis sniper now? Thought of grinding for it but someone said the charge up meter broke

[next dawn]

Yes the ui is fixed

[strong cave]

The higher you can boost your crit damage the higher your orange numbers hit for

[summer totem]

Time to grind

[strong cave]

And here I was worried we would have to vote for a fix

[summer totem]

Also does it have to be heroic?

[next dawn]

Lol

[strong cave]

For the quest? No

[summer totem]

Nice

Im about to lose my balls if i keep restarting because i missed an npc flanking on me from behind

[soft crane]

Perfect.

[strong cave]

Clean. But rip 105% crit damage 😭

Wonder if Ceska oblit would be acceptable? And how far between each other would they be?

I personally would rather just go tipping + al

[buoyant perch]

what's the chance of this?

[woeful forge]

im lowkey running it with tipping scales

since i dont have striker yet

[strong cave]

NICE. Devs did say they increased the rates at which the attributes roll to max

[soft crane]

huh? Am I tripping? Where did our chats go

[hazy steeple]

You're welcome to LFG down in #lfg-pc, as I've told you more than once before.

Gotta follow the rules.

[soft crane]

Dude it was just a personal question.

No need to be that strict.

[hazy steeple]

If the question is "do you want to play with me ingame", then expect the message to get removed.
Just tag them down in the right channel and there's no issue.

No stress.

[gentle lichen]

yo so my friend upgraded his lex to prototype and it changed the talent on it for him

huge disclaimer as to not upgrade it yet

[soft crane]

@woeful forge

[woeful forge]

thanks @soft crane i can finally try a scorpio build with this vile

[woeful forge]

eclipse set?

[soft crane]

yeh

[soft crane]

holster is Electrique or the backpack with Creeping Death talent

[twin frigate]

lol

[soft crane]

whuh?

[woeful forge]

builds channel i guess, anyway's i'll farm for eclipse and give my scorpio a go

[soft crane]

lol

[soft crane]

Right, dont forget the named rifle Everlasting Gaze. Talent is perfect perpetuation

[woeful forge]

is perpetuation the stat effect talent?

[soft crane]

+75% status effect damage and duration for the next status effect you apply.

Should be good when you pair it with sticky burn

[woeful forge]

i have a UIC with the regular perpetuation on it, i'll use that in the meantime while i dont have gaze

[soft crane]

good enough for me

[sinful tinsel]

how can i level up black tusk agitation

[soft crane]

Dont forget that Eclipse talent makes status effect only spreads when the enemy dies. Thats why people tend to use Creeping Death sometimes.

[hexed steppe]

Chest piece with skilled is bad, and really bad on hardwire where you can let seekers off ever 5 sec. Like I said, need to build for damage...which means using glass cannon or perfect glass cannon like I have in my ss. But yeah, always gonna be a bit lacking even with an optimal setup.

Refactor turret/drone is a good skill build to start with and can get through most content

[karmic seal]

The true endgame.... Division 1 is so back

[woeful zodiac]

U can do the black tusk missions in order to fill up the bar or just wait for da daily agitation projects

[sinful tinsel]

oh yeah forgot about the projects

[hexed steppe]

Hard wire all about the spam tho, the other skill isnt really a factor or intended to do a lot of damage

[mild dawn]

nice talent

[mild dawn]

i got killer back on my gun i upgraded to prototype after relaunching the game

[molten lodge]

which would be better to run harrier pride or overdogs for OD build

[proper ridge]

Need, help on building this correctly for PVE, trying to build this between DPS & Armor, don’t care too much for skill

[smoky latch]

Depends what you want. For DPS builds it's not good after initial testing in the PTS

You also gotta give people time to actually test it further. Can't expect a full rundown a few hours after launch lol

[woeful zodiac]

Can anyone recommend me a build for the escalation and BTSU Team 9?

Ik Negotiators Dilemma is good with the Big Al or Bluescreen

[smoky latch]

Any DPS build works

[proper ridge]

I suggest having a dps skill/healer with you

[woeful zodiac]

I play solo tho

[smoky latch]

DPS solo is perfectly fine

[proper ridge]

Uhm the new set is useful, as it depends on what the cores. But as a solo player i used Heartbreaker build

[smoky latch]

Use cover, use skills with short cooldowns to distract them if you need

Decoy, drone, turret if you need

[woeful zodiac]

Ahhh I do use Lexington with Flatline and Big Al

[smoky latch]

Striker's, Tipping Scales, anything that lets you take them down fast. What's your current build?

[proper ridge]

Yeah

[woeful zodiac]

Considering the Open World with certain areas being more useless than a Crusader Shield and decoy, I would use Bluescreen/Big Al with Nego

[smoky latch]

You have sooooo much cover options in the city you'll always find some. Use it.
ND with Bluescreen works but I'd go for more DPS

[woeful zodiac]

Tbh I was able to defeat the rogues in the grand washing hotel with the HB

Atleast after 5 mins

[smoky latch]

You can always take a route from A to B that offers more cover than heading straight from A to B

If you run a DPS build enemies won't even chew up time

[woeful zodiac]

Fine.

[proper ridge]

Yeah HB is OP

[smoky latch]

It's surely not lol

[woeful zodiac]

HB is kinda good

[smoky latch]

Pls stop giving false advice if you're new

[proper ridge]

It’s amazing for PVE as a Solo player if its built correctly

[woeful zodiac]

Wouldn't exactly say OP as there are better builds than HB

[smoky latch]

It's OK as solo player but your always bound to limitations that are annoying and it does not hit hard

Especially for long range combat such as in the open world

[proper ridge]

Well yeah but for solo pve its OP to me. I only use 4 sets

[smoky latch]

Again, it's never op

[woeful zodiac]

Bluescreen with Nego is better tho

But I don't seem to get the status effect bullets

So I would say Big Al with Nego

[proper ridge]

What so 4 pieces nego with what ?

[woeful zodiac]

Strikers is a normal yet effective build (but I don't use it)

[brisk trout]

Can someone please list some support builds that I can use for legendary. I usually default to refactor with capacitor to heal. I tried a Measured Assembly build, but didn't seem strong imo.

[woeful zodiac]

A normal Nego and Equalizer with Overdogs

[proper ridge]

Might have to try that out, currently trying out the new gear set

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1IjQIZZ0SaeflS5OBAhPa5812dR33cDHc3PoSHLuiZ9o/edit?usp=drivesdk

The Setup backpack alternatively

[woeful zodiac]

imagine a prototype Nego with Big Al

[woeful zodiac]

Tank builds aren't that good tbh

[proper ridge]

This one is built around all 3 cores
Edit: atleast the new one is

[smoky latch]

You don't get status effect bullets. That is the Ongoing Directive gear set

Bluescreen works differently as weapon

[brisk trout]

Thanks. Would that work for Tidal Basin for example, when the enemies are more spread out?

[smoky latch]

Correct, tank builds are generally mostly useless

[smoky latch]

Yeah but your team needs to hit the NPCs quick to spread the status effects. Alternatively Bluescreen in a DPS build, or Ongoing Directive build

[brisk trout]

Yeah i have a CC build with bluescreen and negotiators dilemma that i play most of the time in groups. But i feel like that works with waves of enemies together mostly

[brisk trout]

But i will try this, thanks

[smoky latch]

Good luck

[sinful tinsel]

love the blueprint

[onyx sage]

man i love getting the

[sinful tinsel]

turned out to be this

[onyx sage]

oh nice

[exotic talon]

what do we think about these chat

[coral reef]

@smoky latch Yoooooo only 30 rolls lol

[smoky latch]

Not too bad, cheers

[coral reef]

I had a full red at like 12 rolls but I was set on the full yellow, i was blessed by the rng

Goodbye Waveform, it was real

[atomic kelp]

the new brand set, Core strength
"For each Core attribute, receive 40% of the other two Core Attributes' bonuses. "
it means if i have a red core lets say a mask, i will get passive skill eff and armor on top of the wep damage?

[junior lagoon]

so they give diamond transceiver not automated turrent defenses

or whatever that thing was called

[sinful tinsel]

they also forgot to add the blueprint to craft diamond transceiver

[junior lagoon]

what build did you use

[teal heron]

The Turmoil can now have proficiency and can now be re-rolled

[worn elbow]

Can someone explain how the new gear set works? Core strength

[teal heron]

never got the chance to get it but it is nice to know

[worn elbow]

So it just buffs your core attributes?

[livid sorrel]

if you have reds you get like 40% of blues and yellows

[teal heron]

would be nice if it is in the general Loot pool now

[worn elbow]

The chest piece talent buffs that for another 35%

[teal heron]

that means to a max of 95%?

[livid sorrel]

75

[worn elbow]

75 the 45 was a mistake I did sorry

Hmm I might go get a full red variant now

[fickle bramble]

Hi guys could a chest piece roll all headshot damage? Or is it only able to roll one and for me to add a mod later?

[flint arch]

I feel like the core strength backpack is mega useless honestly

If you're going to run core strength, might as well run Memento too

[sinful tinsel]

has anyone got a prototype build yet

[livid sorrel]

Or ninja

[worn elbow]

Your smart thanks

[flint arch]

🤢

[livid sorrel]

Might be the first gearset where NBB isn't doodoo

[hexed steppe]

im just wondering why i didnt save my projects for today 🤦‍♂️

[flint arch]

No way to tell, now that iKia is gone so are all of my opinions

Though he has showed builds with NBB before so

[fickle bramble]

Hi guys could a chest piece roll all headshot damage? Or is it only able to roll one and for me to add a mod later?

[teal heron]

BTW Can anybody tell me if the Named knee pads "Turmoil" are now in the general Loot pool or not? never got the chance to get them

[livid sorrel]

Only one of a minor attribute, can't have duplicates

[flint arch]

an attribute cannot appear twice on a piece of gear

[fickle bramble]

Ty mate

[teal heron]

wait... you cant

[flint arch]

I love how the core strength backpack talent is specified to do nothing

[livid sorrel]

those always seemed like stuff to use if you had em while you farm for the actual build

[teal heron]

what was the talent again?

[flint arch]

to paraphrase, the talent does nothing. the backpack is guaranteed to drop with 3 cores.

[flint arch]

Actually, now that I think about it, you're right

[teal heron]

Better use memento, Harriers or Ninja then

[flint arch]

NBB is a bad backpack, but at least it does something

Core strength backpack literally does nothing at all

Though it's more like comparing doo doo with doo doo + perfume

[livid sorrel]

it took a backpack that does nothing at all to make it look worthwhile

[flint arch]

The more I see the core strength backpack the more it makes me laugh

[teal heron]

memento or Harrier would then make for a build then. Good to know since i have both

[gentle lichen]

with these higher tiers going for striker chest might not be a bad idea

[flint arch]

harrier has fatal flaws

also harrier does zilch for your skills aside from the 1 yellow core

[worn elbow]

Alright new setup

I’ll get a full red set up later on to see how much damage buff I could get

[gentle lichen]

actually crazy armor this set might destroy pvp lmfao

[flint arch]

new PVP meta

[worn elbow]

That’s the chest piece talent buff the buff by additional 35%

[gentle lichen]

yea ik

[worn elbow]

I never had this much armor in my life

I just realized a prototype version of the core strength since it doubles the attributes

[junior lagoon]

• But it doesn't do anything?, - No, it does nothing

[worn elbow]

Doesn’t double it but gives a boost to the attributes

[shy willow]

Great idea even

The hp values are truly ridiculous

[gentle lichen]

it would be if i could play the damn escalation 😭

[shy willow]

You can't?😭

[gentle lichen]

it got bugged it shows that its active but when i got in it's the normal mission on heroic

[shy willow]

Ah is this the thing where you die and it breaks

[gentle lichen]

i never died

[shy willow]

Strange

Worked for me but haven't touched higher tiers yet

[gentle lichen]

i have it on tier 3 rn

i just wanna get ONE prototype piece 💔

[polar condor]

well with drop chances of 0.3% you're going to farm for a while ^^

[steep wedge]

Is it really 0.3% after the "substantial" drop increase? lol

[polar condor]

apparently yes, but i can only quote a reddit thread of someone who collected all the data:
https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/1safynu/psa_escalation_prototype_gear_drop_chances_roll/

still trying my luck solo rn, currently on tier 4, it starts getting a bit too sweaty to farm with brains off though, might aswell stick with 3 and farm there, since the chances are 0.3 on both anyway. will try what tier 5 feels like but i suppose it's doable but not exactly farmable in a 'fun' way

[balmy widget]

I just got this full stat overdogs but changing to it will decrease CHD. What do y'all think ?

[onyx sage]

i thought you had to take 20mins or more!!

[balmy widget]

btw im also using this armor, should I use equalizer after changing gloves ?

[onyx sage]

make the switch. overdogs amp more than makes up for it

[onyx sage]

yes, beacon doesn't really do much for personal damage, use equalizer

[flint arch]

hi dien

[next dawn]

illuminati gang 🙂

[onyx sage]

hi legend

[flint arch]

no I'm not, you are one sir

[onyx sage]

i don't know what you're talking about

[flint arch]

but sir

Anyway I'm finally done with my goddamned midterms, I can finally get Birdie's soon

And I'm not taking the easy way out by doing BT retals

[willow sigil]

whats a birdie?

[devout knoll]

After relogging, did it actually stay like that?

[flint arch]

birdie's quickfix backpack

[willow sigil]

i think i just got that, is it good?

[devout knoll]

Mine appeared like that first too, then relogged and its like this now.

[flint arch]

hot swap to it when you need to revive someone

[devout knoll]

I was lowkey happy it rolled max, just to get smacked in the face XD

[mint musk]

what is a the ideal gear set for someone who focus on skills

[willow sigil]

thats a lot of work

[smoky latch]

Be more specific. Which skills?

[broken edge]

surely this isnt incursion ready

[lament reef]

there are a couple of options in the sheet

turrets, seeker, healer, mortar

[mint musk]

I see, well, i'm more curious to use like drone/turret and have 4 with skill and 2 with armor. so i wonder what gear set is ideal..

[smoky latch]

Drone Turret pretty much Refactor

[subtle bluff]

First thing I get to see.. Thanks... 💀

[mint musk]

and make use of technician specialization

[smoky latch]

I'll show you options, hang on

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit

Impetus chest alternatively works well too

[mint musk]

interesting

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19QJV66vqREDim4BKtW5qffSmsgN02tMd5LiuwUuJdGY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.7vfhmvazeq14

Here are additional options which can be more specific for certain content or if your team kisses the floor a lot

[mint musk]

hmm personally I tend to enjoy revival/drone

[woeful forge]

is there any way for me to still change its talent even if i alr tinkered the crit chance onto it

it has lucky shot which isn't really that bad but I lowkey would rather have something else

[versed summit]

No

[woeful forge]

damn, guess i'll stick with lucky shot

[versed summit]

Try to find one with dtooc already on it then you can roll whatever talent you like.

[lament reef]

i think the new gear set might actually be pretty good for drone turret if you use it with memento

bunch of free WD and armor from the gearset and skill efficiency from the extra memento cores

[smoky latch]

Maybe, haven't tried yet nor heard anything specific yet. It appears to be alright for hybrid builds (hence Memento would come in handy)

[mint musk]

hmm was thinking like 4 pc of Rigger and 2pc of Gila Guard or Uzina Getica

[versed summit]

No

[smoky latch]

Rigger not recommended at all

[mint musk]

i see.. guess i try farm some refactor then 🙂

[smoky latch]

That set it so irrelevant I even forgot what it does exactly

[lament reef]

refactor makes skill damage heal you + friends

[versed summit]

It gives you normal skill damage for interacting with your skills

Its just worse than high end.

Only advantage it had is the backpack will negate cooldowns if you destroy the skill

[smoky latch]

What if I don't have friends and play with random players? :>

[lament reef]

oh

lol mb

okay it works on teammates

[versed summit]

Then you make fren because heals

[mint musk]

well, I don't have friends😅

[smoky latch]

Make fren, okay 😂

[mint musk]

doing mostly solo tho or random if needed 😂

[smoky latch]

The difference between a High End turret drone setup and Refactor damage wise is not big, hence Refactor is recommended due to its talent

[mint musk]

alright.. thanks, guess i farm Refactor then

[smoky latch]

Ya, give it a shot!

[versed summit]

Even if your solo it's still healing you anyways

[gritty pivot]

Hi everyone where can i get my hands on mods for the fortified smart cover ?

[versed summit]

Just farm skill mods anywhere you can. Just rng

[gritty pivot]

Oh okay, thanks ! I thought i needed to do something funky

[versed summit]

Are you just getting firefly mods by chance?

[gritty pivot]

Yes !!!! Shit tons of max target +1

[versed summit]

Hmmmmmmmmm that's a problem

[gritty pivot]

Why ? you getting those smart cover mods ?

[smoky latch]

I might say that is pretty common lol

[versed summit]

I forgor if there's a fix for that.

[gritty pivot]

Fix for what ?

[broken garnet]

Yo is the the new gearset good? I read the stats and buffs and it looks good but ion know if its one of those things that LOOK GOOD but actually perform TERRIBLY

[solar sable]

u talking about prototype? it's recommended not to upgrade atm since there's a bug

[smoky latch]

It seems useful for certain types of builds but needs some testing first

Might take a bit now that iKia is not around anymore

[broken garnet]

Nah nah the new gear set, i think its called core strength

[broken garnet]

Yeah, the extra damage and armor part looks good because those two together have always been a good thing

[solar sable]

mb, I'll let INF answer, idk anything yet

[twin gorge]

which combination is better?

[next dawn]

1 option never ninjabike brother it's a noob trap

[broken garnet]

Coyote mask, ninja bike is not that good

[twin gorge]

alright, and is there anything else i could improve in the first picture?

[solar sable]

strikers knees and Equalizer (UA brand)
plus you need CHC and CHD on your gear

[twin gorge]

ok, first, what is the equalizer? and secondly is there a benefit to using more than 4 of any gear set?

[next dawn]

No benefit for having more then 4 gear set pieces

[solar sable]

Named chest piece from the UA brand that has Perfect Obliterate

No, 4pc is max and some gearsets may only use 2 or 3pc

[twin gorge]

oh wow, yeah i gotta get one of those

[runic warren]

Not sure if this is ok but can someone rate my build, I just hit 40

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[runic warren]

dont think im ready for Summit or anything like that yet

[solar sable]

@twin gorge take a read at this too

[twin gorge]

thx for the advice

[next dawn]

you more then ready for summit

[runic warren]

is it not that hard then?

[next dawn]

just dont go pass hard difficulty

[next dawn]

there difficulties that you can set so you can set it to how hard it is

[runic warren]

oh right! So just focus summit for a while then?

[next dawn]

follow the guide it'll tell you what you need to do

[solar sable]

read the guide I sent, it has lots of answers

[runic warren]

Any gear recommendations for Buffing allies! Sorta wanna move to a supportive role in team comps (Healing and buffing)

[solar sable]

ohhhh, yeah one sec please

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11__a0xEKRKX22zNtLFwQM6P44oIq_h6g07a47Fd0X2M/edit?usp=drivesdk
there's this

[next dawn]

need to revamp the expertise cost image

[open pulsar]

Damnit 3/4 first try...

[solar sable]

I'll search for the new one, got that one off of reddit

[runic warren]

thank u

[next dawn]

probably got to wait a few days

[runic warren]

sorry to be a pain to ask this but the skills for this build. Wouldnt the booster hive be better?

[solar sable]

you can use it but the main purpose of the build is healing and applying Opportunistic to enemies

[runic warren]

ah i just noticed its a shotgun build!

Anything like a sniper supporter? or any mid ranged weapons instead of shotgun is shotgun the only way?

[solar sable]

Scorpio's 9th shot applies an amp to enemies, so no, MMRs are not an option

[runic warren]

ah nuts ok, I gotta get use to using shotguns then

[solar sable]

both shotguns and MMRs apply Opp but for buffing purposes, scorpio wins

[runic warren]

Right, So I need the scorpio but the lefty is a optional choice or also a must?

[solar sable]

it's a BiS since you can also apply Sledge on enemies and every group member will be able to make use of the buff

[runic warren]

rightio! Shotguns it is!

[solar sable]

Sledge's description didn't get changed back and it says "only the player who applied the mark will benefit from this talent" to what I said earlier

[round root]

Is the new gear set good? I know we’re just a few hours in but I feel like someone will have tried it

[solar sable]

iKia used to do that work... sadge

[smoky latch]

Nope, it seems to have potential but too early to say anything specific

[round root]

Gotcha thanks!

[cursive swift]

For a striker max dps build is it better to run over dogs or unit alloy gloves for 2 set?

[solar sable]

overdogs

[cursive swift]

Ok ty I am assuming overdogs talent procs more then I am thinking then

[onyx sage]

even if you're only proccing it 50% of the time, it's still a 15% increase

the only reason you don't want to use it is during specific encounters where you NEED to meet the dps check in order to survive

which, for most things, the average player will never run into

[cursive swift]

That’s a good way to look at it lol I figured the 20% ar dmg would be good from the set

[onyx sage]

and that only benefits ARs, when if you want more damage at like close range for example you could be using a smg

[lavish sundial]

hey do has anyone got any tips for the new core set gear. i have it running all red with crit dam/hit and i don't know if that's the right play for this set.

[smoky latch]

It's not very strong, no

You get a bunch of armor in a DPS build but that's it. Gotta wait for more people to test it

[lavish sundial]

thx

[signal frigate]

Im still debating on weather to go negotiators dilemma prototype or just strikers i really am not sure

[smoky latch]

I would just wait...

[flint arch]

[frozen hull]

I’ve only gotten two pieces so far so haven’t really tested it .. but as it reads i fear it’s gonna be a jack of all trades master of none

[last garnet]

whats the best way to get more survivability? rn i just rely on skills to regen armor is there any other ways?

[frozen hull]

What type of playstyle do you want to do

[last garnet]

rn im doing hard wired with technician

[frozen hull]

What I mean is do you want to use skills to focus on your damage ?

[last garnet]

ya

[fickle moss]

Anyone got a good skill build reccomendation

[smoky latch]

Be more precise

[fickle moss]

I’m just looking for a skill build to use, like whatever would be strongest I guess

[frozen hull]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1P_yxFbZI4IuP-m1YmNxT1aqHK5j1mg4AigCGu44SDow/edit this will give you good damage and survivability

[last garnet]

sweeeet thanx

[frozen hull]

You pick up the trophies after every kill and it will give you over armor while boosting your damage

[last garnet]

sounds fun

[frozen hull]

The turret and drone will do most of your damage

[fickle moss]

If I had to like pick a skill I want to use it’d be either drone or turret I doubt it’s viable but seeker drones look fun

[frozen hull]

This gets posted in another server I’m in what is happening

[onyx sage]

hacked accounts, the usual

[frozen hull]

Figures

[smoky latch]

What I meant was which skills. There are more than turret and drone 😉

And many new players don't categorize into support, CC, etc.

[next dawn]

LETS GOOO

[worn elbow]

Re log

[next dawn]

🙂

[fickle moss]

Probably wanna run drone personally and keep a revive hive on the back end for safety

[flint arch]

Everyone getting trolled

[smoky latch]

If you run Refactor you should run turret and drone. The gear set is healing you already through your skills' damage

[next dawn]

na trust its for the hype

[smoky latch]

What hype?

[flint arch]

the hype of doing nothing and dying instantly i guess

[civic meteor]

Holy shit

[lament aurora]

Stupid question but is there a more efficient way to farm repair skill attributes ?

[smoky latch]

Yeah but sad damage

[sinful tinsel]

is the tinkerer mask any good?

[civic meteor]

120k is good no?

[smoky latch]

items drop with random rolls if you mean that

[lament reef]

yeah

[smoky latch]

120k per bullet??

[sinful tinsel]

just got the bp from a black tusk kill squad

[lament aurora]

Yeah so no gear set has better chances for skill attributes ?

[smoky latch]

Yellow core gear preferably rolls with yellow attributes

[lament reef]

does it actually
i feel like it is pretty fast and loose

[lament aurora]

Hero thank you

[civic meteor]

Yea

[smoky latch]

Yeah that is sad 😄

I don't recall my damage on the PTS with that set and two combinations but it was limp d damage overall

[civic meteor]

What do yall average damage wise?

[lament reef]

what’s elmo’s per shot dmg on like unstacked striker

[civic meteor]

I run striker and get 100k base

[smoky latch]

Personally I could somehow see it be more valid for blue or yellow builds predominantly. But for DPS a clear L

[lament reef]

I’m curious, what’s your reviver cooldown

[smoky latch]

180s

[civic meteor]

I run 5 reds and get 100k wdym?

[copper yarrow]

any good core strength build?

[smoky latch]

It's a bit early to ask those questions

[copper yarrow]

okay mb

[onyx sage]

are you looking at the number in the inventory or your actual damage on an enemy? cuz no one uses the number in the inventory

[civic meteor]

Ohh I’m talking about invitiry

[onyx sage]

yeah that number is useless cuz it doesn't factor in talents and many other buffs

[smoky latch]

Oh lol. That would explain

[onyx sage]

answering questions for 4 years, you kinda know why people get confused over time

[marsh sparrow]

having fun with 6 skill tier memento core strength set + chest turret drone capacitor build, extra item i change depending on what i want.

[dapper glacier]

is Royal Works a new brand?

[ivory abyss]

Is thisw Agitator any good for current builds like strikers etc like im assuming the threat you gain means nothing when in solo lol since you are the only threat

[rich cosmos]

It still works

[ivory abyss]

I mean the gaining 100 threat like would that even matter if you are solo lol

[rich cosmos]

Threat applies to stuff like decoy

[ivory abyss]

Since you are the only target for the enemies anyways

[rich cosmos]

At the end of the day its not the important part of the talent id say

[ivory abyss]

The talent looks good

[strong cave]

Yes. It's moreso a pvp brand set it's got nothing good to offer compared to our current gear

[next dawn]

Thoughts (ignore The Gift its a place holder)

[smoky latch]

1pc Electrique (or Golan if you have) for a fire build

[ivory abyss]

Talk about a lucky reconfig lol

[smoky latch]

I had similar luck. Three re-rolls and only 1x optimization needed

[next dawn]

working on electrique

[ivory abyss]

So this whole theme seems to be swapping weapons lol

[willow tartan]

Guys does the coyotes mask critical hit chance add on to a capped 60%?

[smoky latch]

Kind of

[smoky latch]

It's still capped at 60%

[ivory abyss]

Is the swap talent good? It gives you buffs like for the gun itself and for your other weapon so you always have a buff going it seems

[smoky latch]

You should lower your CHC to 50% (51% is most common IIRC) if you use Coyote's

[willow tartan]

Ok thank you

[lone violet]

I got all the bp from black tusk woooo now question is EB,sheriff,rav usable in high content?

[smoky latch]

Meh

Sheriff is a good secondary, EB is alright if you run it with Striker's in PvE, Ravenous is niche (more of a fun weapon than an efficient one)

[lone violet]

What about vindicator?

[smoky latch]

Idk I don't have it and haven't used it cuz F Descent

[next dawn]

Not worth it

It's a stash exotic

[lone violet]

Apparently I got big horn while doing the retal idk if that’s good @smoky latch Let alone If people use striker for it or smth

[next dawn]

Bighorn my beloved

[smoky latch]

It's OK in PvE with the right build but it's really more a PvP weapon. Search for "Bighorn PvE" in this channel and you'll find a build suggestion

[lone violet]

Aight and idk if it’s just me but the exotic mask from this season looks better than the ar

[smoky latch]

You compare apples and oranges for a subjective topic :p

[obsidian lava]

Just got St. Elmo's!! Which one should I keep

[lone violet]

I’m just saying also I might make a healer build for the hell of it but idk what gear set to go for and I don’t have BTSU gloves atm

[smoky latch]

You can recalibrate exotics, FYI. You will get completely different attributes. Keep the one with DtA and re-roll the other one until you have Damage to Targets out of Cover on it

[lone violet]

The google doc has a FI build right? If I don’t have btsu gloves what can I sub for?

[smoky latch]

Nothing really. Farm them

[obsidian lava]

Reroll?

[lone violet]

Aight count down it is then

[smoky latch]

Gl

[flint arch]

Now that's the good shit

[subtle bluff]

Rav has niche when used for that niche it’s can’t be beat.

Dmg wise

[smoky latch]

Recalibrate

At the crafting table

[obsidian lava]

Got it

It gave me max Dto. Should I roll the other one?

[smoky latch]

Yessir since that one is better than what you have on your other Elmo

Depends on how many materials you have as well

If you run out, use the DtA one and farm for a while

[willow tartan]

I just got this is this rare to get all three?

[smoky latch]

It drops like that apparently

Lucky you tho, in all this RNG mess it's a unicorn possibly

[willow tartan]

I thought so I got a bad talent tho idk what to think

I don’t think I like this where it changes the talent

[smoky latch]

Oh right you can't change the talent lol

[north breach]

Oh man thats a downside

[willow tartan]

No sadly only augment

[rich cosmos]

Wait, is lexington dropping?

[willow tartan]

the chances to get the talent u want and all the roles max is virtually non existent

[smoky latch]

Only as prototype

[rich cosmos]

Like, as in it can drop in the mode?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[rich cosmos]

Guess Im grinding escalation

Doesn’t prototype gear automatically drop as expertise 30?

[obsidian lava]

Should I keep rolling for damage out of cover?

[rich cosmos]

If so thats just an automatic must use for me at least

[willow tartan]

The Lexington I got I upgraded I didn’t get it off the ground idk how rare to pick one up like that

[solar sable]

yes

[smoky latch]

Only if you have enough materials

Otherwise use the DtA one until you have more and then try again

[obsidian lava]

I have many, lol. I did not know you can reroll stuf

[smoky latch]

Nice, then keep re-rolling

[cursive swift]

I’m kinda in the same boat, should I keep rerolling? I got dmg out of cover but stats are low rolled… do I reroll or optimize?

[obsidian lava]

Does it have Damage out of cover?, Its not even showing up, lol

[smoky latch]

Yes, if you have enough materials

[cursive swift]

Yea it does but seems more rare for me too lol

[obsidian lava]

Made me eat my words. Lmao

[smoky latch]

Nois, cheers

[obsidian lava]

gg

[willow tartan]

I think there’s a bug with proto cuz my Lexington has spike talent but is still activating killer which was the talent prior to prototyping

[smoky latch]

Restart your game

It's apparently only a visual bug

[willow tartan]

Noo I want to keep haha

[smoky latch]

You will keep Killer, it just shows a random talent after prototyping apparently. That's how I understood it

[subtle bluff]

IDK why they didn't do PTS 2 like they did for TU22 when they had a not as big of change...

[sinful tinsel]

im a bit confused on how the eagle bearer works

[lilac harbor]

It’s a bit tricky when you first see the talent

Basically, you want to get a headshot kill to proc Tenacity. Tenacity reserves most of the damage you take until it runs out. So all the damage you tanked will eventually hit you like a truck once the buff runs out

[ivory abyss]

So lexington is confirmed dropping

[sinful tinsel]

ohh fairs i get it now

[sinful tinsel]

where

[patent fossil]

The stats are misleading too, when I upgraded mine it showed all stats up at new max. After logging off and on again turns out only the dth got the increase 😫

[lilac harbor]

To counter this, you want to get 3 kills after you proc the buff. That way you delete all the reserved damage and you’ll be all good.

[ivory abyss]

what tier was this from

[strong cave]

@sinful tinsel ^^

Once you proc tenacity, you're dedicated to 3 kills so you don't die. However, you CAN swap off the gun to force it to cancel. Just note any damage you took will instantly apply

[cyan drift]

PSA this ability one-shots mini-tanks on any difficulty and it can come off cooldown in 25 seconds at max stats

so you can just run up to all the minitanks in the first DUA area and 100-0 them with the push of a button
THIS DOES NOT COUNT FOR DESTROYING GADGETS FOR JOURNEY MISSIONS

legendary is so dead 🤣 holy moly

[patent fossil]

If only it had the range to one shot marauder drones

[willow tartan]

Same problem for me

Ok so it does keep the talent but now I have only one attribute maxed 😂

[shadow stirrup]

hey yall what is the best way to farm for hyena tactical assessments I am fresh out and am not getting any

[cyan drift]

you can get it up to like 42.5 meters range

I don't think they count as gadgets though. Mini-tanks only do because they're tied to the controller guy

[smoky latch]

Sir, this is build advice. Next time pls #ask-td2-community . Named Hyena NPCs, make sure to farm the crafting blueprint from control points soon

[patent fossil]

They're electronics though, they take damage from emps like dogs do I think

[shadow stirrup]

okay lol should i farm them on herioc or chal

[cerulean smelt]

well, i imagine it's remote controlled. just we can't destroy the guy controlling it 😹

[cerulean smelt]

think fastest is Blueprint and use them precious materials 😹

[shadow stirrup]

thats what i meant my b, for the bp

[patent fossil]

Challenging will be faster but heroic gets you extra blueprints (from a different pool, won't help with optimisation mat blueprints) and generally more/better loot

Plus the bosses on heroic CPs are named

[solar sable]

April Fools is over btw

[ivory abyss]

in escalation you can get it

[solar sable]

ss?

[lone glacier]

Proof or shit tier april fools

[ivory abyss]

scroll up

[solar sable]

huh I see it now

I guess I'm farming Escalations to get Lexi's and decon them

[smoky latch]

😄

[cerulean smelt]

clip to post here "this is what i think about your guys fascination to lexington!" destroy lexington

[solar sable]

😈

[junior lagoon]

so what do we want on the new core strenght set?

[solar sable]

we don't know yet, iKia used to do that but now it will take a few days or more to get to a conclusion

[flint arch]

gotta wait until the day lincoln memorial gets escalated

it'll be like early div 2 again before TL and when everyone just farmed the absolute shit out of lincoln

[violet shadow]

Tipping scales with Tinkerer and gr9

[round root]

whats gr9?

[tulip charm]

lmg with 200 rounds

great for frenzy

[round root]

ohh okay

[violet juniper]

I have a build using the GR9 with Pristine Example, Steady Handed and Measured

it's quite fun

[round root]

could you share a SS? i'm newish and lost build wise haha

[subtle bluff]

baby numbers

[lone violet]

Idk if this is good or not but how about the rolls?

[violet juniper]

I'm not in div rn sorry

[tulip charm]

Meh. Ideal third roll is damage to target out of cover.

[violet juniper]

Decent enough for now, but you'll want DTTOC

[violet shadow]

The build isn't even expertised yet

[subtle bluff]

better build without exp will do more.

[solar sable]

Lincoln is tired...

[flint arch]

I give precisely zero shits

[lone glacier]

I do not want to do Lincoln over and over again like back in the day sadge

[willow sigil]

is matador walker brand?

[solar sable]

walker, Harris and Co. ye

[willow sigil]

and its open world loot right?

[flint arch]

no, DZ exclusive

[willow sigil]

fff

whats so special about it? can someone send a ss of it?

[flint arch]

perfect adrenaline rush, good for pvp

not the most useful in pve

[willow sigil]

oh i see, so 9% more bonus armor

that sounds pretty substantial

[next dawn]

sadge

so close yet so far

[atomic kelp]

Alr, i need some brains here cuz this is saucy (belt is salvo)
stick to striker chest with salvo? or back to equalizer and striker belt

[subtle bluff]

Let's put it this way. Bullets hurt.
In PvE you have many sources of incoming fire. Tanking them isn't great way to push thru.
In PvP you 1-4 sources of incoming fire. You can tank a few and push thru.

[lone glacier]

Shooting Range is NOT trustworthy

[subtle bluff]

This is only really good for incursion and very few boss fights.

It is hard to keep both BF and/or striker chest fully stacked.

[smoky latch]

Why do you keep shooting heads? You are just falsifying your data. It's unrealistic to hit that amount of headshots

[willow sigil]

yeah prob just get normal walker for now and then go farm dz. i need emperors too i believe

[flint arch]

@subtle bluff did the six12 nerf also affect scorpio

[atomic kelp]

i mean.... am always aiming at the head when am playing? 😅

[subtle bluff]

This is the standard build once you've learned the basic incursion for meta DPS for incursion.

[atomic kelp]

it works with backfire because u have to get the cd stacks anyway

[flint arch]

I say good luck finding scenarios where 1. the enemy is tanky enough to not die instantly, 2. is close enough for you to land consistent headshots with a SMG, a close range weapon, and 3. the enemy is not actively shooting you, or someone else isn't actively shooting you

[subtle bluff]

same base weapons

[subtle bluff]

CD stacks?

[atomic kelp]

escalation

[smoky latch]

You won't get to full stacks 80% of the time with the Striker's chest

[atomic kelp]

backfire stacks, forgot the name

[smoky latch]

Which renders it useless and you should pick another chest, Sokolov or Equalizer

[flint arch]

so scorpio got affected too
i remember watching a raucey video (i think) on how to kill lovebirds with no gate strat and he used scorpio for dps iirc

[smoky latch]

You could then switch Overdogs to Salvo if you want to

[sinful tinsel]

should i build a sniper build? they look fun

[subtle bluff]

Yup the old duo strats was using 2 scorpio.

[dapper glacier]

Gentlemen, it is with great pleasure to inform you: the overdogs have finally dropped for me.

[subtle bluff]

Both Backfire and Striker Chest require you to be almost non stop firing to stack and upkeep the stacks. If you aren't fight for +5 seconds you have to rebuild so much where most of the time it isn't work.

[willow tartan]

What happens if u prototype a gear set item for example holster with just Crit chance is it 100% that it will improve crit chance or does it only add augment?

[patent fossil]

It will improve either the core stat (eg weapon damage) or the minor stat, with a small chance of both

[willow sigil]

that holster has a core too no?

[willow tartan]

ahh ok I forget about the main core

[patent fossil]

If the core stat is a skill tier then that won't improve so best not to bother

[willow tartan]

Does anyone know what a 6% crit chance can be maxed to?

[junior lagoon]

I think 5 percent 2 stats and 1 percent all 3 stats

[patent fossil]

9% - new max is 1.5 x old max

[willow tartan]

Perfect!

Thank you

[cerulean smelt]

why not ditch overdogs and go equalizer and salvo? 😹

[lone violet]

i wonder if core strength is gonna be used

[ivory abyss]

Im hoping it could be good for tech tank builds

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no.

The balance is that Striker and HB tech tank will output more DPS by far and which means it doesn't need to take that much in the end.

[ivory abyss]

So then this gear set is useless lol it cant win in a tech tank build which seems like what it would be perfect for, it def isnt going to win pure skills builds or pure dps so

[flint arch]

well obviously in a battle of greats, hybrid builds will lose every time

[ivory abyss]

yeah but it loses even in what it looks like it would excel in lol

I was hoping this would be the tech tank supremoooooo set

[subtle bluff]

You can do it but at the meta objective yea..

[harsh sable]

how does one get overdogs gloves?

[ivory abyss]

Will this core str at least be better than the umbra and negotiators tech tanks lol

[subtle bluff]

I've been meaning to try ND tech tank due to threat ND can generate.

[ivory abyss]

I dont mind the current tech tank builds I do enjoy them the most but damn I really was hoping for some new stuff to be good and make a swap to

like the new exotic AR I like and it seems kind of good with the talent even though you have to swap

[cerulean smelt]

the exotic ar goes brrr if you have that new back and forth talent on other weapon 😹

#td2-pvp-discussions is the better place. this is more pve related

[languid shard]

good comsssssss

[cerulean smelt]

wish you luck

[ivory abyss]

Ill wait to see what people come up with number wise on core str

Whats confusing about that

[junior lagoon]

Somehow i don't like killer on lexington, any other talent suggestions? All red striker build

[ivory abyss]

measured

[cerulean smelt]

i used Strained 😹

[junior lagoon]

Why laugh it is a good one

[obsidian lava]

st Elmo's is op as heck. Really liking it with my striker build

[subtle bluff]

eh it's good dunno about OP.

[obsidian lava]

Making escalations tad bit easier. Also, I was sleeping on banshee skill. Staggers enemies.

[cerulean smelt]

mine's so op it sits in the stash 😹

[gaunt chasm]

[ivory abyss]

So are any builds that get put together going to be in a different image format since Ikia is no longer doing them?

[flint arch]

st elmo's is good, but OP it is not

[ivory abyss]

Also why is it elmos gets 70 rounds lol and every other AR gets 50 or 60 like this new AR couldve been awesome with 70

[flint arch]

I still hate Iron Lung, but its CC talent is infinitely better than Elmos

[junior lagoon]

Bluescreen?

[buoyant perch]

buildstation.app most likely

[flint arch]

Bluescreen CC can be applied to several enemies at once but takes longer to proc

[ivory abyss]

Bluescreen is a fun weapon though and so smooth to shoot with

[outer agate]

carbine 7 vs lexington for strikers?

[flint arch]

I used to use nego with bluescreen in countdown, helped with hunters sometimes

[ivory abyss]

Lexington wins every time if you have it

[flint arch]

lexington is stronger, but carbine isn't that far off

lexington is only like 3.8% better than police m4

[outer agate]

i have multiple lol how does it compare to the carbine 7

[outer agate]

ah ok gotcha

[vague zodiac]

Has anyone tried Chameleon with 4 pieces with weapon handling?

[ivory abyss]

Lexington just wins in the high end space yes it doesnt flat out dominate it, but it is statiscally better than the others lol

[outer agate]

is hb really that bad of a set?

[flint arch]

no, and if I did, I would have trashed all pieces anyway because it's way less consistent

[ivory abyss]

No but i have notice sometimes it can be buggy lol which is annoying

[flint arch]

chameleon is a terrible AR but an okay SMG, the damage talent is still annoying to proc though

[vague zodiac]

The only weakness of Chameleon is accuracy, its talents is actually fine. if u do 4 pieces with weapon handling, it becomes an normal assault rifle, and with 65 body shots, around 2 mags, u get an extra 90% weapon damage.

[cerulean smelt]

woudln't it be damage talents? 😹

[flint arch]

for that reason it's typically relegated to the stash

[outer agate]

i have been thinking about making one but everyone has told me its garbage lol

[junior lagoon]

Yeah i do that, if you get a good spot it can take care of an entire chopper drop

[ivory abyss]

HB all red is def worse than strikers flat out, but if you do the tech tank style HB is good there, but it does have some weird bugs sometimes ive noticed but overall its good

[outer agate]

whats tech tank hb?

[ivory abyss]

Its like the hyrbid of blue and red cores

[junior lagoon]

I tried and found damage lacking

[outer agate]

oh ok is there a guide or build for it?

[vague zodiac]

idk if anyone thought of that, 1 weapon handling adds 10% accuracy, so 4 pieces adds 40% accuracy, it already has chc and chd built in. So what makes it different from st elmo is it adds extra 90% daamge at 65 body shots.

[ivory abyss]

yeah i think its pinned some where here

[junior lagoon]

And i say this as a die heart blue foundry bulwark guy

[flint arch]

in the amount of time needed to proc the effects i would have killed more enemies with normal striker w/ crit stats everywhere and lexington

is it fun? probably. but definitely not optimal

[flint arch]

[outer agate]

i wouldnt kno the first place to look lol

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages

[ivory abyss]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1og9FWqIfhTr3Wo-il3GN5Iq7gHEG3EQdj0ZtkHIZAmY/edit

this is one of them

[flint arch]

gonna say this again, if people actually read the pins this channel would be extremely dead

[outer agate]

i assume thats a reg acs12 not a special one

[ivory abyss]

Yeah its a normal one

[flint arch]

acs-12 w/ flatline

[haughty pendant]

What mark said plus technician for the pulse laser and kingbreaker

[outer agate]

what does llp mean under the weapons lol

[ivory abyss]

linked laser pointer

[flint arch]

linked laser pointer

[outer agate]

id prolly do lexington with flatline tbh

[flint arch]

kingbreaker sucks, the perfect flatline is 100% not worth using such an ass AR

[junior lagoon]

Even with salvo ?

[versed summit]

Good on paper, awful to use

Handling is so trash, it's just not any kind of enjoyable to use

[haughty pendant]

It builds up armor on crit from pulse and kings does pulse damage

[flint arch]

the extra damage is worthless if you miss your shots

[junior lagoon]

I thought kingbreaker sucked because of low rate

[haughty pendant]

Don't miss lol

[flint arch]

this as well. salvo kinda helps but not enough, and it causes other problems

[junior lagoon]

I don't always use perfect weapons but when i do, i prefer dark winter

[hexed steppe]

low rof, bad handling

[flint arch]

if you want to do max damage with HB, you want a vigilance backpack and overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

👴 hi ya local. tackled new content yet?

[flint arch]

can't put salvo in there alongside those, you're going to give up serious damage by foregoing either

[hexed steppe]

want more damage out of hb, just go striker

[hexed steppe]

not really, i ran a few missions on lunch but thats it

[next dawn]

guah why game, why would you temp me like this

my brain is melting

[civic meteor]

Hello!

[junior lagoon]

Red foundry bulwark when?

[flint arch]

i'm going to have to copy and paste a list of reasons why red heartbreaker is just jank striker with a vigilance backpack

[civic meteor]

Is 200k base damage in the shooting range bad?

[subtle bluff]

Use the DPS Calculator in the pin messages.

[civic meteor]

Oh?

[haughty pendant]

I don't like all red hb but a slight mix of blue is a fun change. Its awesome seeing armor build up to being unstoppable with minimal armor. It just doesn't out dps striker

[hexed steppe]

just post a ss of the build. there is no real context to this question and it cant be accurately answered not knowing what build youre using

[subtle bluff]

Unstoppable is a great mix for HB. HB needs to build.

Vig is the better

[civic meteor]

Oh im sorry I just wanted to know what a good like DPS is in the shooting range

[cerulean smelt]

the named backpack? or i assume you mean the backpack talent 😹

[outer agate]

is the 30% expertise absolutely needed? im only at 9

[civic meteor]

Which pinned is it?

[junior lagoon]

When i played with blue HB i understood what corrupt meant by always use red

[cerulean smelt]

targeting range is horrible to find your "dps"

[subtle bluff]

Look in the first post.

[silent storm]

We Kings Now!! Anyone else doing the hot swapping?

[subtle bluff]

I don't get it

[cerulean smelt]

rowdy's post or my comment about Vig?

[versed summit]

Interesting choices

[subtle bluff]

4 more TWD for 5s for something you have to swap for to proc which leads to no shooting so less DPS overall at the end.

[flint arch]

Red Heartbreaker has many problems.

• The bonus armor (survivability) you get from HB's effect w/ full red will not actually help you as much as you may expect. It might let you, what, tank like 10 more bullets?
• For maximum damage with HB, you also want to go with Vigilance. Vigilance does not go away when you lose bonus armor. Problem is, your bonus armor doesn't last very long under enemy gunfire.
• The only way to regain lost bonus armor is to regain the slowly decaying HB stacks, so if you lose all of your bonus armor, have fun playing a jank version of Striker while worrying about Vigilance.
• Linked Laser Pointer is not very consistent, makes you lose 5% CHC on your weapon, and stops you from using any exotics (unless you can hit headshots all the time, but say hello to the humble warhound)
• Since you can't use Gunner, no innate 10% AoK for you. Unless you want to farm for a unicorn PS backpack, good luck on trying to conserve armor kits.

Please just use Striker.

also i just realized the image has banshee pulse on tech spec lmao

[cerulean smelt]

glad you saw it. i was looking at it like. i see tipping, alejandro. then a rifle with rifleman. i don't see a use in this?

[flint arch]

Ah yes, rifles on a TS build. They fit together like a glove don't they

[civic meteor]

What’s a good spot

[subtle bluff]

oh! TS too then losing TS stacks from not shooting on top.

[subtle bluff]

For?

[cerulean smelt]

testing their dps numbers

[flint arch]

do lincoln memorial and spawncamp everyone. if you can do it comfortably, you're doing good dps

[haughty pendant]

So is using risk management and press the advantage not good for striker?

[flint arch]

backpack is BiS in most cases. chest is situationally very powerful, but emphasis on situationally

if your enemies are not legendary or tier 10 escalation level tanky, you will deal less damage overall with striker chest than with an equalizer chest

[cerulean smelt]

don't forget raid/incursion levels for chest 😹

[flint arch]

you need to maintain at least 150 stacks for the chest to be worthwhile. that is extremely difficult to maintain on simple stuff like heroic

[atomic turtle]

@flint arch Off to a flying start here.

[flint arch]

lmao

[cerulean smelt]

OOHHH! that's perfect 😹

[silent storm]

4% WD isn't worth having to swap every 5 seconds, they should tie the bonus to magazine so that the 324 rounds actually matter. So scratch being kings

[silent storm]

Best backup weapon for TS

[flint arch]

aren't rifles semi auto

[shy willow]

TS stack gain is fixed

[karmic seal]

Is this a good role for the Gear Shift? What can I replace the Crit chance with if need?

[flint arch]

ic

[shy willow]

Though the only rifle id even consider is cooler

[subtle bluff]

I explained how it works i think yesterday or something.

[quasi mason]

Does investor and core strength work together for a solid build ?

[subtle bluff]

Why would it need it?

[flint arch]

personally if you're going to use core strength, just use memento

also the core strength backpack is the most useless thing i've ever seen

[shy willow]

Core strength is quite possibly the only time where a NinjaBike unironically outclasses the set bag lmao

[flint arch]

the fact the Ninjabike bag is better than it just because it has a functional talent makes me laugh hysterically

Like, the only time it becomes "better" in PVE is in a scenario where the bar is set to the lowest possible point

No minor attributes, no brand set, no talent, that's where the Ninjabike bag can finally claim "victory"

[subtle bluff]

oh?
Oh gearset BP.. ..

[flint arch]

Core strength bag talent literally says "this talent does nothing"

[shy willow]

Core strength bag literally and explicitly does nothing

[flint arch]

The devs didn't even f-ing try to hide it holy shit

[lone glacier]

Is there an exotic you could run with the Refactor Drone/Turret build? Like Waveform maybe or something else?

[haughty pendant]

Well i mean im looking for something to not be a complete plug on legendary. I do well on heroic with armor or bloodsucker type builds that dont cut it on legendary either i go squish or shoot marshmallow farts

[shy willow]

Birdie bag

[haughty pendant]

So the stack to 200 sounded tempting

[flint arch]

anything works in heroic. legendary you kinda have to go squishy. you need to kill the enemies ASAP or your team gets wiped

no amount of blue cores will help you if you can't kill that goddamned drone operator who's busy spamming drones at you

even with 6 blue cores, one wrong move and you die in seconds

[lone glacier]

Iron Lung vs Drone Operator

[haughty pendant]

I just watched a guy on my legendary tidal team face tank the whole thing like it was on story mode. I was so jealous

[flint arch]

Let me guess, Assault Global Event

[haughty pendant]

For the exotic cache

[flint arch]

GEs can make even the worst builds "viable"

[flint arch]

okay, that's surprisingly outside of any GEs

[haughty pendant]

If it was. I got melted 🫠

[subtle bluff]

getting there and staying there is another story.

[flint arch]

but that person will do absolutely nothing for your team btw

[subtle bluff]

LOL unbreakable.

[flint arch]

we have no taunt abilities in this game. even if the tank tries to draw aggro, the enemies will eventually just ignore the tank and shoot the DPS players

[wise raptor]

Man finding the right hunter fury gear is difficult

[thick meteor]

Whats a good non gearset build?

(All gold, no teals pve build)

[flint arch]

an okay-ish tank player will run Pointman (perfect Vanguard) and Galvanize alongside Scorpio to at least provide bonus armor to the team and a small amount of CC

[subtle bluff]

ALSO that build is over cap on PFE lol

[subtle bluff]

there's a few different ways to do be support but that's a whole different story.

[flint arch]

but the utility a tank can provide will pale in comparison to an eclipse foam user (CC) or an FI healer (strong buffs)

[haughty pendant]

He carried me by picking my glass cannon ass off the floor lol

[subtle bluff]

Not really this is why use TL (Targeted Loot)

[wise raptor]

No I mean the right gear set with the right attributes so I can tinker it

[flint arch]

anyway totally unrelated video

[lone violet]

Me farming for btsu for hours no luck and gambling on the exotic chest

[dense roost]

i need this game to show me how many rerolls i put into stuff because im one reroll away from being on the news

[subtle bluff]

Are you gonna put armor cores on a HF where note that HF talent says on Kill does a AoE CC and you get Armor for killing?

[subtle bluff]

welcome to the of RNG.

[dense roost]

DTTOOC is a figment of my decaying mind atp

[flint arch]

it took me like 40 rerolls to get dttooc on my elmos, and then it took me 1 reroll for my bighorn

RNG is weird

[lone violet]

I had a DTA but I decided to re roll

[dense roost]

ts is gonna make me cry man

[haughty pendant]

I just got a big horn in my first legendary run since s2 >.> Any build recommendations?

[dense roost]

ive spent so many exotic components

[flint arch]

good in PVP, mid at best in PVE. look up "bighorn pve" in this channel

[lone glacier]

BTSU9 blessing me with good blueprints

[fervent seal]

Do people usually run the eagle bearer or the bighorn in pve?

[lone glacier]

I mean I do, but Id also call myself an outlier

[fervent seal]

provide me an explanation pls

[lone glacier]

Basically Striker with those

not really the BiS but its fun to run them

[fervent seal]

Ok understood

[flint arch]

EB is more usable with Striker

[lone glacier]

True, but Police M4 exists

[subtle bluff]

Many weapons.

[lone glacier]

Oh yeah, Police M4 is just basically "standard" at this point for Strikers

[round root]

is this a striker build?

[subtle bluff]

That is PGC/Vig striker

[fickle hill]

Any good hybrid healer builds? I made this one that gets me 1.6mil Reinforce and 487k Hive with 2.1mil armor and 123k damage w/t Agitator but I feel like I could do better.

[cerulean smelt]

odd....

[willow tartan]

Happy with this

[atomic turtle]

Who else is waiting for build station to update so we can reoptimize builds around the new attribute max rolls?

[silent storm]

Triple stat plus too bad it's repair skills

[shy willow]

Visual bug, relog

[atomic turtle]

Anyone know what the new max rolls are on gear across the board?

[hexed steppe]

waiting for you to fill us in

[silent storm]

I relogged and it's the same stats

[subtle bluff]

Refactor

[willow tartan]

I was told 1.5x earlier

[lone glacier]

Yeah 1.5x higher @atomic turtle

[round root]

i'm sorry i have no idea what that means lol

[lone glacier]

Perfect Glass Cannon Vigilance

[round root]

ohh! okay thanks

[lone glacier]

#td2-build-advice message Here

[round root]

many thanks!

[lone glacier]

But; Id only run it you know how to position yourself etc. Basically be a good player

[atomic turtle]

Got it, so it should be 9% CHC, 18% CHD, and 22.5% WD as the new totals, right?

[lone glacier]

Should be yeah. 18 dtooc too iirc

[willow tartan]

Does anyone know what the chances are for proto to land on attributes

[round root]

ok last question, other alternative to lex? i've been playing a few weeks and never seen one drop

[rich cosmos]

Lex cannot drop naturally outside of being a prototype drop in the new mode today

Lexington is just a police m4 but with more damage

[solar sable]

4% more 🙏

[silent storm]

Interchange any good?

[smoky latch]

Not tried yet

[lone glacier]

Police M4, F2000, Famas

[silent storm]

I am guessing that they don't want you using Interchange and Trader together

[smoky latch]

What's Trader again?

[smoky latch]

I totally didn't read the update infos lol

Yeah they wanna avoid a high uptime with those talents

But it works with (Perfect) Gunslinger

Would be geat to see new talents on brand chests and backpacks

[silent storm]

Yeah but Robin is garbage

[smoky latch]

Not planning to save a copy lol

[silent storm]

5 s is way too short. Needs to be next mag

[smoky latch]

Yeah that's why it's not used

[silent storm]

That way you can exploit a 324 round Big Al drum lol

[smoky latch]

Yeah lol

[cerulean smelt]

lol, did i win the lotto?

[silent storm]

Can it roll multiple of the same attributes?

[willow tartan]

Did I? 😛 just teasing. Good luck

[cerulean smelt]

no, but that's the beauty of it. it has no mod slot so it can roll other things as well

[cinder karma]

It's now 5% better than coyote, nice

[cerulean smelt]

nah, you needed headshot damage 😹

[smoky latch]

Can it not have 3x CHD etc.?

[willow tartan]

Depends on what distance you working at

[cerulean smelt]

doubtful, but who knows

[smoky latch]

I mean come to think of it, that might be OP in some ways

[willow tartan]

No it can only have one of each, they omitted one of each colour attribute

[smoky latch]

Gotcha, thx

[cinder karma]

It doesn't, not the new mask. Coyote close range buff is 25%. This new mask gives 30%. No distance limitation

[willow tartan]

That’s what I’m saying

For all red tipping scales I’m far away so I’m not getting 25% damage from coyote so having 30% constant much better for my situations

[cinder karma]

You're better off using overdogs

[shy willow]

Investor is much better for yellow and blue builds

[onyx sage]

tipping also gives a ton of crit which you really don't need more of

[shy willow]

On red there are far better options tbh

[cinder karma]

Better to go with the 30% from overdogs

[atomic turtle]

What's the baseline CHD bonus again without any modifiers like brand sets or attribute rolls?

[cerulean smelt]

oh, good capacitor mask? 🤔

[onyx sage]

your character has 25% chd base, like without anything, not even watch

[smoky latch]

With SH instead of SE I'd take it

Could use it in a firestarter build if you wanna keep

[willow tartan]

I have contractors I don’t understand the overdogs talent in the sense of how often it’s being activated

[atomic turtle]

There's no baseline CHC, right dien?

[onyx sage]

yes

[cinder karma]

Lowest tier enemy gives damage bonus

You're more likely to shoot a low tier enemy by accident even if you're using the gloves with no idea how they work

[smoky latch]

Maybe this'll help you

[onyx sage]

no watch: 0% chc, 25% chd
with watch: 10% chc, 45% chd

[silent storm]

22% CHD right?

[surreal elk]

is ravenous and vindicator any good?

[cinder karma]

Ravenous is niche and vindicator is really bad

[surreal elk]

ahh

[smoky latch]

Ravenous is niche but useful. Haven't used Vindicator myself

[cerulean smelt]

not too bad i'd say? 🤔 only 10ish reconfigs i think?

[cinder karma]

I personally would use that

[willow tartan]

Nice 1% armour regen

Keep that one

[silent storm]

No it's CHD if I am reading it correctly

[cinder karma]

The red cores will give Crit, and that blue will give 1% Regen as well

[smoky latch]

I just noticed I left twitch on while I was afk. Collected Overwatch rewards; don't even play that game

[silent storm]

1% armor regen is when you have a Red or Yellow Attribute and a Blue Core

[willow tartan]

That’s not how it works

[cinder karma]

It's definitely not how it works

You're thinking of the new gearset

[surreal elk]

guys is eagle bearer better than the st elmos? or is eb forgotten already

[smoky latch]

No

[willow tartan]

You know when u upgrade proto on gear, if it lands on attribute does it always do 1.5x or can it be other values

[shy willow]

Either it's maxed or it isnt

[strong cave]

Eagle has very little use case in PvE. Even in pvp it's phased out by umbra capacitor

[surreal elk]

ah thats a shame, too late to the party i guess

[silent storm]

New Refactor Build to play around with

[strong cave]

It's sadly one of those guns you'll just rarely touch. Elmo's has a very strong utility talent that simply can't be beat

[shy willow]

On refactor I personally only run birdie's

[tawdry raven]

bro they scammed me on the proto pistol

[shy willow]

Still support oriented but no heavy incentive to run hive so

[shy willow]

Tried relogging alr?

[tawdry raven]

yeah

on the bright side my dark winter came out really good

[cerulean smelt]

different talent 😹

[atomic turtle]

Hey @smoky latch, does this look good to you?

[smoky latch]

What's the second GS entry for?

[atomic turtle]

3P with CHC 1P with CHD.

[smoky latch]

Is there prototyped stuff involved?

[atomic turtle]

Yeah, I'm using the new assumed max rolls.

I'm trying to future-proof the rolls here somewhat.

[smoky latch]

Seems alright but maybe ask dien or chow on top

[subtle bluff]

wtf

[atomic turtle]

Did I fk up somewhere?

[subtle bluff]

dunno what I'm reading

[smoky latch]

It takes a moment to wrap your head around it lmao

It's his crit stats from all sources I think

[atomic turtle]

^

[smoky latch]

Since there is a +18 I'd think there's prototyping involved

[atomic turtle]

I did consolidate multiple attributes together. Like the 36% from mods is just 3 12% CHD mods.

Yeah, the 9% CHC and 18% CHD is assuming Prototype.

[subtle bluff]

Other base build does it matter?

This is why me and iKia hate this. Why would us saying that good or not. RNG rolls

[atomic turtle]

I want to know if the math is right, not whether the rolls are good.

[subtle bluff]

what's the math you're asking?

[atomic turtle]

If that 1.728 looks good.

[subtle bluff]

Just adding CHD an CHC together?

[atomic turtle]

Yeppers. Just looking to verify.

[subtle bluff]

why are you mult CHC and CHD?

[atomic turtle]

Is that not how CHC1 x CHD1 = X works on those spreadsheet notes?

[subtle bluff]

No...

[autumn saffron]

Can anyone recommend me a st elmos or eagle bearer build

[autumn saffron]

I js got the 2 and I dont know what to use

[subtle bluff]

That is to compare against.

[subtle bluff]

Strikers

[onyx sage]

that calculation is only used to compare the crit distributions between different builds. it's not directly used to calculate the average crit multiplier. that would be 1+chc*chd. but you have to do chc and chd as decimals (e.g. 60% chc = 0.6, 150% chd = 1.5 for example, so average crit multiplier is 1+0.6*1.5)

[autumn saffron]

Os the memento bag any good with them?

[subtle bluff]

sure that works too.

[atomic turtle]

Ah.

[autumn saffron]

What does strikers do

[subtle bluff]

what SHD are you?

[autumn saffron]

I js hit lvl 240 i th8nk

[subtle bluff]

DO you know what countdown is?

[autumn saffron]

Yeah thats how I got the bag and both guns

Ive been doing challenge runs in it and lucked out

[subtle bluff]

Go farm Strikers

[autumn saffron]

Alr

What do they do tho?

[languid wasp]

anyone running with Big Alejandro? what's ya ratio CHC and CHD?

[soft crane]

55-ish for CHC and 105 for CHD

Thing is Alejandro dont have any mod at all for some reason

[subtle bluff]

No it depends on what the gearset there using

[subtle bluff]

Scroll up lil past the posted build there how to do CHC/CHD

[tiny kernel]

So tipping scales is kinda cracked

[vague zodiac]

I thought lmgs usually go with DTA

[frosty rivet]

an old build id like to try to fix up to try in escalation, id like some help please

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1vpF--CFYdKBCsN0_Dl86veGmulSNfrZQYkRYbqZzCs0/edit

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1jZFxzOinCpE8Yt8mUVw6SFsSuxgvmJPqf4-Axe-rR50/edit

[tiny kernel]

This is good right?

[frosty rivet]

What's that

[smoky latch]

Virus

[frosty rivet]

Thank god

[smoky latch]

Two build suggestions, one with Overdogs, one with Tinkerer

[frosty rivet]

Thank you

[smoky latch]

DPS counter is broken

[frosty rivet]

I guess vile isn't very useable anymore?

[tiny kernel]

Is it?

[smoky latch]

Not for OD, no. Can use it in an EP build

[smoky latch]

Damge per bullet is displayed correctly AFAIK

[frosty rivet]

Oh, do you have a recommendation for ep aswell?

[tiny kernel]

What’s afaik?

[solar sable]

as far as i know

[smoky latch]

Pick one
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ZOg2CJaxfUNvj_nkh0z8xzTUMtKowImM

[tiny kernel]

Ohhh

[soft crane]

Overrated

[smoky latch]

It's solid, wdym?

[tiny kernel]

Legit I don’t hear anyone talking about it

[soft crane]

The time to reach max stack is fixed.