td2-build-advice

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[subtle bluff]

Do we have a section pointing to the Gearsheet and the Build Hub?

[solar sable]

wait you got rid of it

i just noticed, we used to have one

sorry im blind, its there

make it bigger so it's noticeable for them

[signal frigate]

Question what type of build was this guy using in legendary mission

[inland siren]

what armor should I use with st elmos?

[solar sable]

looks like an attempt of a pvp build brought to pve

[flint arch]

I wonder how much damage does a PFE build do

[solar sable]

@inland siren 👆

[inland siren]

thanks

[shy willow]

Little to none

Well actually it depends how you build it

But mostly you bank on sweet dreams to kill non elites

[flint arch]

I've seen stuff ranging from full blues to "Striker but with PFE"

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I mean it'll work in elite dense missions

[fringe ravine]

Does the st. Elmos drop like a normal exotic or is it an exclusive?

[tulip charm]

normal

[shy willow]

At best you lose a chunk of crit at worst you lose all damage in exchange for near invincibility

[fringe ravine]

Thanks

[subtle bluff]

Its not even near...

It will go down

[shy willow]

Depends how you deal with reds/purples tbh

And similar to most tanky builds your shield is still your lifeline

[signal frigate]

If ya was in tidal bissan on legendary what build would ya use

[flint arch]

Standard Striker

And preferably one guy with Eclipse Foam for CC

[signal frigate]

Kinda being dumb because the final room is hell

Thinking of doing a striker protection from elites build

[subtle bluff]

the builds sololy isn't just the tank. Is what I am getting at.

[jolly bramble]

For Refactor Turret builds,

Why wouldn't people use Waveform?I

[subtle bluff]

Read it.

[shy willow]

Because it's not very good

[shy willow]

Ah gotcha

[subtle bluff]

but also refactor chest and bp don't give any dmg

[jolly bramble]

Gotcha, saw the description.

[subtle bluff]

1 skill gets

[signal frigate]

Im thinking of doing a protection from elites i see in the spreadsheet should I lowkey ?

[hearty orbit]

i was actually going to ask about this

does the new named chest factor into refractor at all ? or is glass cannon just that much better?

[subtle bluff]

You can try it. Let me put it this, bullets hurt a lot no matter what you do not want to keep eating them

[subtle bluff]

Read both quickly.

[shy willow]

Glass cannon is straight BIS for damage focussed skill builds

Boosts your gun damage as well as your skills it's very good

[jolly bramble]

Would it need to be re-cored to yellow?

[flint arch]

It's a bit of a 🦄

[shy willow]

If you're using the sacrifice yeah, but you can run technician to mitigate the difference

[jolly bramble]

I do have one but it's all red.

[shy willow]

If you're using a different spec then yeah have to roll yellow

Ideally you want skill damage/skill haste/status effects

[jolly bramble]

I'll screenshot the current build I have.

It's by no means perfected, just using it until I can get better pieces.

[signal frigate]

That's true I wont deny but at the same time theres just moments where im getting melted not knowing what to do

[subtle bluff]

More or less that's the basic refactor

[subtle bluff]

Postioning in key in legendary.

TBH just being blunt too many new players are doing legendary too early and think it's something just doable with a build which isn't the case.

[hearty orbit]

I guess im looking at it as a 3% damage difference (27 on imp vs 30 on glass) against the 60% increased dmg taken

does amp damage work the same way with skills that it does with weapons? (twd vs awd)

[signal frigate]

Fair

[subtle bluff]

It's suppose to be a team effort to clear

[onyx sage]

just know that you learn with every death. don't get discouraged

[jolly bramble]

I usually stick to Heroic at most.

Oh for the Capacitor, what's a good roll to have?

[onyx sage]

dttooc

[jolly bramble]

I have DTA and DTTOOC.

[subtle bluff]

AMP doesn't just add to the Skill DMG. It's multplies at the end of it. In this case AMP is alll your out going dmg

[flint arch]

i feel like legendary is at the same time harder and easier than you think

[onyx sage]

it's impossible for me

[subtle bluff]

depends on your group

[tulip charm]

I get carried by GE

[flint arch]

then again my only experience in leggo was DUA, the easiest one to clear

i was using pgc striker + vigilance, and the other two players were dead weight, one was a useless FB tank lmao, i basically carried them even though i barely knew what the spawns in DUA were

[hearty orbit]

and would it be correct to assume that the skill repair on imp doesnt affect the heal from refractor because its not a skill?

@subtle bluff makes more sense now ty,
the increased damage taken seems daunting but it gets countered by getting good lol

[tulip charm]

pretty much

PGC is pretty much a right of passage

[slate wedge]

i believe you

[onyx sage]

i can't go anywhere without dying in full red

[flint arch]

lies

[onyx sage]

it's easier to believe

[lunar mortar]

Hello
Just to be sure : Empress >Hard Wired for tech build (turret+drone) ?

[subtle bluff]

Those 2 skill would be counter productive to HW.

Need a lil more context here and also what's your SHD?

[lunar mortar]

220 SHD level. Hard Wired seems less effective Ryan Empress for the stats damage

Pretty low level I know

[subtle bluff]

Is your library maxed out?

[lunar mortar]

I use the Hanna U bag with waveform holster

[lunar mortar]

Not at all

[subtle bluff]

You can stop. You don't have the right build for a Focus Drone/Turret build

[lunar mortar]

I want to try to go heroic solo with this build

[subtle bluff]

First do this:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.lgix7c4hkx9c

Farm out your library and then you can also farm up Refactor gearset

[lunar mortar]

I see

So for now I stay with HW gear ?

That better ?

[subtle bluff]

Just start you can but follow the guide get a striker set just to farm with so then you can get your library and then anythign else in the future it easier to farm up

Again HW isn't good for your skill choices.

[lunar mortar]

Tant why I ask is empress is better for that

[subtle bluff]

No it isn't..

I alraedy said you want Refactor gearset.

[solar sable]

im actually glad this piece dropped

[flint arch]

the CHD

[solar sable]

cherry on top

[main parcel]

Anyone got any countdown builds? (Specifically a build with DPS)

[shy willow]

Striker

[olive dew]

whats the best mods for rock and roll, for getting striker stacks faster

[silver coral]

whats a good set for chatter box for priority stronghold and mission spamming for speed clears or is ST elmo better?

[solar sable]

accuracy and RoF, if youre not running strikers chest dont bother using it for stacking

[subtle bluff]

It's more of what if your playstyle more. Striker, HF or ND.

[silver coral]

are they both fast clear?

[subtle bluff]

it's more on you than the build

[silver coral]

the thing i like on chatter is i dont need to reload much and on St elmo is the CC

[silver coral]

i tried pestilence negotiator i like dots but the clear is a bit slow since im super squishy

[subtle bluff]

Pesti ND isn't great at all..

[silver coral]

how?

[subtle bluff]

Just isn't. Nothing special is going on there.

[silver coral]

whats a good for pesti for fast clear cause i wanna finish priority mission as fast as i can

farming exotics and exp

[subtle bluff]

again.. it's not the build really it's you and how you can play the build..

[silver coral]

so tipping is still good for pesti?

[subtle bluff]

It's ok not the best nor mid.

[crystal copper]

what are a good DZ build?

[subtle bluff]

Go into #td2-pvp-discussions You should also be able to search for "PvP starter guide"

[silver coral]

then whats a good set for chatter box i wanna go glass cannon but not too much

[subtle bluff]

I already mentioned the 3 builds

[silver coral]

hf for smg right and striker for rifle?

[solar sable]

can also use Strikers for smgs

it usually doesn't go the other way (rifles with HF)

[crystal copper]

can i use other ar like the eagle bearer instead of bighorn for a dz pvp build?

[solar sable]

I guess you can

[silver coral]

is it the same setup equalizer for chest and overdog for gloves?

[solar sable]

yeah, although I highly recommend Memento for solo close range combat

[subtle bluff]

Well if he needs it.

[subtle bluff]

They do less dmg than the clip I just showcased..

[crystal copper]

what should i use i dont have the big horn?

[silver coral]

yea for solo memento is good but whats a good part to replaced? overdog or equalizer?

[solar sable]

wait no sorry

[solar sable]

overdogs have to be replaced to use Memento

[blazing ridge]

Any good grenade launcher nuke build for legendary?

[meager void]

The longer time played in the game automatically gives you better godrolls on drops, is this true?

[solar sable]

nope

this game is rng based so that answers the question

[olive cosmos]

what are some good lmgs? exotic or gold doesnt matter

[solar sable]

Big Al, Pesti, Iron Lung, Bluescreen; M60, GR9, MG5, Mk46, M249

[olive cosmos]

are the attrubutes you want the same for pretty much all weapons?

[grand girder]

if PVE you want CHC as third on lmgs

anything else is usually dttooc

[olive cosmos]

yeah i feel like dmg to targets out of cover is like a must for every weapon no point of not having it

[flint arch]

actually there exists some weapons that are only for utility and not for damage

[olive cosmos]

maybe snipers are diffrent idk

rifles

[flint arch]

but yes in general all weapons want dttoc

[subtle bluff]

alway DTTooC

[olive cosmos]

fair

[flint arch]

dttoc on my quickstep isn't going to help a lot lol

[solar sable]

Capacitor with DTA and DTOC is such a combo

[subtle bluff]

Ok.. It's you're doing dmg DTTooC

[grand girder]

speak for yourself

[subtle bluff]

I actually leave DTTooC on my pistol because sometimes I am using to to finish off something

[flint arch]

Actually, I have some other concerns

[grand girder]

please, indulge me

[flint arch]

30 expertise, 1.5% pistol damage, 2% DTTOC

Something feels a bit off here but I can't quite figure it out

[solar sable]

30 EXP on a pistol is a flex

on a mf pistol bro

[flint arch]

i mean i guess when you're at SHD 6009 you will have 99999 free exo components left over

[grand girder]

very old SS , think im 8k or something now

[flint arch]

I wish I could get a level 1 quickstep honestly

[olive cosmos]

is there a google doc with weapon tier lists and what they are good for? i was a destiny play and we always had something like that but just wondering if you guys also have that

[flint arch]

Trying to start from scratch on a new character without 20% speed boost absolutely sucks

[flint arch]

The Spreadsheet has all the info you will ever need for the game

[grand girder]

wouldn't you be able to get one if you had someone farm the dogs while on that lvl 1?

[flint arch]

Oh wait hang on I misread the question

[grand girder]

or does it autoscale to 40

[solar sable]

why do most players who are into Div2 come from Destiny?

[flint arch]

Okay no, we don't have a tier list of weapons

[olive cosmos]

bet i dont have to annoy people with a million questions

[flint arch]

But in general, let's say you're using Striker, any AR will work really

[olive cosmos]

idk both looter shooters?

[solar sable]

it's never annoying if you understand what we're saying

[flint arch]

If you can handle the recoil and spread of a gun, and it's 790+ RPM, it can be used

[olive cosmos]

yeah i understand what you guys are saying pretty much lol

[solar sable]

I found out about div2 before destiny

[willow sigil]

Game dying and losing support. That and I've already done everything there is to do in d2. We were supposed to get new dlc early March but that got delayed 2 months because of marathon

[open gulch]

guys i am looking for damage build and also anyome please tell me is there any xp farm method in this game stucked at 65 trying hard for 100 🙁

[flint arch]

Most people run police M4/lexington/st elmos because it has really low recoil and spread and most of us have bad aim (including me)

[flint arch]

im not sure actually

[grand girder]

if you're on rn we can test it

[flint arch]

I wonder if I can join one of those blue backup calls with wings and then start the Houndsman bounty there

Oh rn uhh

I can spare 10 minutes or so

I have a level 11 character rn

[grand girder]

balright, just load in on a low level char and I'll invite when game loads up

[flint arch]

username is corruptphoton

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide
and check #ask-td2-community pins for Control Point XP Farming

[flint arch]

In the game

[grand girder]

just got deafened by snowdrop engine be 2 secs

[flint arch]

lol

@grand girder quickstep has a minimum level of 30 🥀

[grand girder]

bruhhh

tf is this lmao

[flint arch]

i've never seen such BS

[flint arch]

wtf

okay so all the seasonal loot is locked to a minimum of level 30

[solar sable]

decon it and clip it and send it in #td2-pvp-discussions

[smoky latch]

You could sell them, people would pay lol - just a joke 😒

PvP for sure, plain god roll

[grand girder]

love me some materials

[flint arch]

🤣

[grand girder]

aww twinning, I remember deconning a lexi when it was the 1 time only deal

made alot of people madddd

[flint arch]

well at least i got level 11 froth out of it

[grand girder]

lmao do they give decent xp

[flint arch]

i don't think so

[willow sigil]

Are there any talents or set bonuses that target a specific weapon name rather than a weapon archetype?

[solar sable]

i don't get it, could you rephrase?

[flint arch]

i think they meant something like sucker punch which has synergy with st elmos specifically

[willow sigil]

Yeah, if I have an elmo, is there any reason to keep my m4?

[flint arch]

basically like old div 1 exotic gear sets

[flint arch]

m4 will deal more damage than elmo by virtue of having a damage talent

[solar sable]

yes, Elmo's doesn't have a dmg talent

[willow sigil]

So if m4 is objectively stronger, if there any reason to keep an elmo?

[flint arch]

elmo is a comfy weapon to use

[willow sigil]

They essentially serve the same purpose no?

[serene wyvern]

What is the go to for tech damage builds?

[flint arch]

yes, but only running just what's the most optimal is a bit... meh

there's a limit to how much you can stray from being optimal, but in general using st. elmo instead of lex or police m4 is fine

st elmo also has more utility even if it doesn't outclass a HE m4

[solar sable]

skill/dmg hybrid?

[flint arch]

also st elmo has nice crit attachments

and a big mag

im repeating myself at this point, but you should run whatever you think is most comfortable (within reason, of course)

hell, you can even run eagle bearer if you can handle the recoil and spread

Striker can work with any fast firing AR as long you can handle their recoil and spread

[serene wyvern]

yeah, i was thinking maybe a st elmos crit build for weapon with 2 piece maybe alloys for fire rate and ar damage, but i havent done much when it comes to tech stuff but want a build to mess around with it

[willow sigil]

I thought elmo was stronger. It felt stronger to me, but I never actually checked the numbers . After work today I go back to m4 and see. I think you're right, the mag size is what tricked me towards elmos

[serene wyvern]

I use elmo for mine and average 8m dps... not great, not bad. striker + unit alloys with perfect obliterate

[flint arch]

btw firing range is not accurate

[serene wyvern]

i know 😉

[solar sable]

@serene wyvern 👆

[willow sigil]

Am I supposed to run 2 ua over overdogs?

[serene wyvern]

almost 1100 rpm and hitting 500k a shot, so yes, 8m dps

[solar sable]

on strikers? not really sure

[flint arch]

honestly i have never checked the dps of my striker build

i just notice enemies die quickly and that's it

[solar sable]

ask Chow so you don't have to do the meth

[flint arch]

as agt.taro said, PVGC Striker with 100% vigilance uptime is equivalent to Standard Striker with 60% Overdogs uptime

[solar sable]

he said that? awesome

[flint arch]

so as long i play perfectly i can deal... the same amount of damage as a standard striker user

you said that this build would give me great rewards if i played it well doomz

you lied to me!

[olive dew]

is there an actual "best" weapon for a striker chest build? I've read the builds but is there something that is kinda the top or meta?

[solar sable]

I blame @onyx sage

[solar sable]

don't use Strikers chest for normal content

[flint arch]

PVGC Striker is now just for bragging rights ever since Equalizer and Overdogs came into existence

[subtle bluff]

Where are you reading stuff from?

[amber locust]

@flint arch what would you pair with the equalizer and overdogs?

[flint arch]

4p striker, 4p tipping scales

[subtle bluff]

4pc ND

[olive dew]

the build hub, Strikers (Y6 S2)

[flint arch]

basically a lot of dps builds love equalizer and overdogs

[olive dew]

I just wanna max out dps for the fun of it and see how far it can get me

[solar sable]

nego, coco...

[flint arch]

🥥

[solar sable]

I'M IN LOVE WITH THE COCOA

[frozen hull]

I also love coco when I’m in group play

[flint arch]

i tried using pesti with coco after i got good 4p coco from random sources, i saw maybe like 1.5 million dmg per tick or something, found it interesting, and never brought it out again

[frozen hull]

I haven’t tried it yet with big al.. thing I might have e to dust it off

[subtle bluff]

Where's the Y6 S2 one you're reading

[olive dew]

Can I send links in here?

[subtle bluff]

Yes

[olive dew]

https://lite.evernote.com/note/0ee25268-ad51-0dd8-be36-f12373c7630a

[subtle bluff]

THAT'S WHY...

[solar sable]

OOOOOOOOFF

[flint arch]

evernote

[solar sable]

good ol' times

[subtle bluff]

You're on the wrong one.. some how.

[solar sable]

(they were not)

[olive dew]

bro😭

[solar sable]

why is that still in the Spreadsheet

[flint arch]

here's the most recent Striker's guide

[subtle bluff]

IT ISN"T..

[solar sable]

THEN HOW

[flint arch]

they had to go out of their way to find this one

[subtle bluff]

There only one striker on the build hub... I just searched... .....

[olive dew]

No it is, its listed in meta dps if im sure

[flint arch]

It's from Raucey's Build Guide Collection, down in the Multiple Builds section

[solar sable]

OOOOOOOOHHHHHHH

[subtle bluff]

OH shit.

[flint arch]

oh damn

[solar sable]

🤣

[flint arch]

the spreadsheet's a bit wonky ain't it lol

[solar sable]

a little fkie wuckie

[subtle bluff]

We haven't looked at FAQ section in forever..

[willow sigil]

Can someone explain to me how I'm supposed to use my overdogs? What exactly am I supposed to do?

[flint arch]

@willow sigil shoot the enemy in the lowest tier

[olive dew]

ty, also is overdogs still a really hard drop from control points

[flint arch]

It doesn't matter if they're named or just red enemies, as long they are of the correct archetype the effect will still kick in

[willow sigil]

Tier in this game doesn't refer to the health bar color right?

[solar sable]

no just archetype

[flint arch]

in general loot pool

[olive dew]

all good, do you have a link to the explanations to all the specilizations. I couldn't find it and I spent an hour looking around trying to see the ones you were talking about

[olive dew]

So I can just do summit?

[flint arch]

here's the level 40 guide, alright now doomz please point the gun away from my head

[solar sable]

too late 🔫

[flint arch]

shi

[subtle bluff]

We don't explain it just show what the spec stuff says. On bottom of the sheet go alll the way to right and you'll specs

[willow sigil]

The 2 chevron enemy, what are they called?

[flint arch]

My last words: The reason why Summit cheesing is recommended for exotic farms is because the

[subtle bluff]

Which one?

[willow sigil]

There's multiple?

[flint arch]

One points up and one points down

[devout meteor]

Hey all! Returning after about 2 years.... Is Strikers/Coyote/EB still a good build?

[subtle bluff]

Scroll up

[flint arch]

bit behind on the meta in some places in your message, but Strikers is still the best DPS build in the game

[solar sable]

ditch EB and it's the old standard Strikers

[olive dew]

Yeah but for example, the striker build with overdogs and equalizer. are there any specialization trees that help boost the dps output or good for general survivability

[solar sable]

Gunner for the latter

[subtle bluff]

@solar sable I've never this... lol

[subtle bluff]

It's in the updated guide we gave you

[solar sable]

"What is life?" "42."

[subtle bluff]

"Never play a tank"

[flint arch]

Always run 6 red cores

or yellows if you're using eclipse/FI

[solar sable]

if you use blue gtfomf

[flint arch]

i wrote a whole ass essay on why you should run 6 red cores

[solar sable]

unless youre the two people I know, you can stay close

you showed it to Chow yet?

[flint arch]

the document?

no (im slightly scared)

[solar sable]

then what are you waiting for 🔫

[flint arch]

but DM'ing people is scary

[solar sable]

@subtle bluff corrupt wants to show you a thing he did

[flint arch]

yeah i'll need to show it to him if i want any cha- oh goddammit

[solar sable]

HAHAHAHHAHA

[flint arch]

here is my stupid essay...

[subtle bluff]

uh

[willow sigil]

When you guys say all reds you are talking both core and secondary attributes?

[solar sable]

usually DMG cores

[subtle bluff]

oh

We could add this some where

[solar sable]

YES!

[willow sigil]

So I'm not supposed to run all critical chance crit damage on all my pieces? Am I supposed to run blues somewhere in there?

[devout iris]

what other items do i use with big al apart from tipping spear?

[flint arch]

oh so i didn't get murdered instantly, that's good

[solar sable]

oh no, not on DPS, always CHC and CHD for dps

[willow sigil]

Ah okie

[solar sable]

Strikers

also tipping SPEAR?!

[devout iris]

damn, so i just replace my eb in my striker with big al

[solar sable]

EB ain't good for pve

[devout iris]

I MEAN TIPPING SCALES MB

[solar sable]

I'm just teasing you lololol

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/QptCP8jmF9g?si=qsOSaUNHwI70r_Wj
Add this next to the ikia it's shorter and quicker

[devout iris]

but still what should i use in my tipping scales with big al?

[solar sable]

I love going to sleep at 4am after laughing like a maniac reading this channel

[flint arch]

I STILL HAVE TO DO MY CALCULUS HOMEWORK SHIT

[solar sable]

I use PGC and Overdogs

[subtle bluff]

LOL I'll bring this up the sheetpeople and see where this should be placed.

@flint arch

[devout iris]

pgc?

[flint arch]

[solar sable]

The Sacrifice chest piece

[flint arch]

ngl im feeling quite ecstatic rn

[solar sable]

I know the feeling

[flint arch]

would be better if i wasn't procrasting omg i have 5 hours before school

[devout iris]

OH! didnt think glass canon will be used here but ok?

[solar sable]

IF IT AIN'T PGC I AIN'T WANT NOTHIN

[devout iris]

but what about perfect overwatch?

[solar sable]

ew

[devout iris]

cause i was also thinking of equalizer as well

[solar sable]

great choice

[short verge]

Uh huh, apparently this redline event is letting us hit over 100% crit chance.

[solar sable]

another overd- fk this game.

[subtle bluff]

I wanna remake that showcase with MG5 killer

[subtle bluff]

Which is cool and everything but CHD is what does the dmg.

[solar sable]

All units, prepare for Backfire hazpro builds to arrive like crazy. All units have been advised.

[solar sable]

oshmsoshdksidbkskd

[subtle bluff]

I forget what the Redline even was for this

[solar sable]

we need more people like you in here

[short verge]

wdym

[solar sable]

meme posting and knowledge is a rare combination from a player

[subtle bluff]

THIS WAS DUMB...

[solar sable]

I'm hyperactive rn sorry

[solar sable]

wtf lmfao

[short verge]

ill take that as a compliment, i've learned to just let people have their time on the high horse and simply smile and wave

[fair dragon]

did you just forward this 4 times when the original post was from this server?!

[subtle bluff]

IDK where OP is from.

it was from a while ago.. idk..

[flint arch]

original

[fair dragon]

OP: you

[subtle bluff]

AH

Derp. I go sleep now

[storm moon]

is stacking armor worth it on build like this or is better go for weapon damage ?

[short verge]

Armor for safety, damage once you’re more comfortable or in a group. But if you’re already slaying out solo, then you’re fine.

[storm moon]

is not mine build i just found someone with this build

[short verge]

Did you ask that player????

about what they think about their own build?

[storm moon]

is afk

[subtle bluff]

Change striker chest for a equalizer

[short verge]

Then my advice stays the same: you stack armor for safety then eventually change to damage once you're more comfortable.

[hearty owl]

To answer your question directly: no

[subtle bluff]

It's has too many blues.

[storm moon]

hm oke i will just follow something like this but elmo

[short verge]

do literally what you want to do

[subtle bluff]

Elmo isn't there for a reason.

[hearty owl]

What’s wrong with Elmo there

[storm moon]

i cant get any of this weapon .. what should i build if i want play elmo

[subtle bluff]

Not as much burst. Help newer players get used to melting things.

[fair dragon]

meltong

[short verge]

meltong

[hearty owl]

I think Elmo is fine there

[subtle bluff]

Any weapon with +790 rpm w/killer (solo) or measured and DTTooC
You can just run that with Elmo.

[storm moon]

k

[trim folio]

what gear sets and skills should i focus on if im using grenade launcher in future?

[fair dragon]

Best build

[trim folio]

can loot allocation be changed on descent like in summet or is it completly random?

[fair dragon]

the only loot you get from Descent is in the form of Field Proficiency Cache, Simulation Cache and Reconstructed Cache

[merry schooner]

hi im back from a long haitus and i have 0 idea what im really doing.

Ive picked a build and i want to start working towards it, how would one achieve that?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned messages > Sheet 2 > Build Hub > Starter Guide

[trim folio]

well off to the summet

[summer totem]

Is rigger a good drone set or should i get something else, trynna go for a drone/turret build

[kindred coral]

finishing firewall for my melee rusher build (which is going pretty decently actually)

then i wanna move onto doing a skills based medic build :o

purely bc i wanna rep the datagloves with my btsu outfit and not essentially waste a slot

[trim folio]

hardwired for drone is my understanding han especially if drone paired with turret

[subtle bluff]

No rigger is literally the worst gearset in the game.

[subtle bluff]

HW isn't good with turret/drone

[trim folio]

oh

damn im farming the wrong set then

[subtle bluff]

Go use the starter guide first.

[summer totem]

Dang and here i thought it was good, any build recommendations?

[subtle bluff]

Scroll up I point to a starter guide.

[short verge]

as it has been for the past how many years: memento, striker, st elmos, with a grupo sombra piece somewhere

crit chance, crit damage, weapon damage, shoot things, be happy

[modest citrus]

the most boring build, but efficient in fact 😢

[trim folio]

does anyone still use ace of spades?

[smoky latch]

Wrong game lol

[hearty owl]

what are you even talking about

memento striker with grupo

yeah bro that’s meta

[short verge]

only weakness i guess is that if in a group and everyone happens to get hit with somethiing unlucky, it's got no backup except with the reviver hive

i whipped up a cookie cutter healer build just for that cause i saw like 80% of the my random matched groups were just red damage builds, the other 20% were also healers or running some niche but insane crowd control skill build

[slate wedge]

@hexed steppe

[cloud sorrel]

you can go 3 blues / 3 reds, it helps staying alive in striker, and you won't lose that much dmg

[versed summit]

It can make a pretty significant difference IMO. Especially in groups you're going to struggle to keep up on DPS

[cloud sorrel]

i'm always first in DPS even tho i'm rocking 3 blues on my striker usually

but yes, maybe with better players rocking all reds they will have more dps, but i feel like i don't need more alot of the time, i'm not really using my 6 reds strikers anymore cause i don't feel the need

my tipping scale is still with 6 reds tho, i might try 4 or 3 idk

[olive cosmos]

just rolled this

[short verge]

oh yes

[summer totem]

Okay I'll do this instead

Thanks

[summer totem]

Should i use lefty for secondary?

[bright raptor]

sure, use it to build up Striker stacks very quickly

[short verge]

whatever fires fast i guess, acs shotguns stack striker fast af tho

[summer totem]

Isn't lefty just acs but named or am i wrong

[cloud sorrel]

it is

but i think rock'n'roll will be better

if using a named acs

[versed summit]

Having more red cores let's you play more efficiently and positions you couldn't play in without enough damage.

If you're using a shield there's a bit of return on the blue cores, but other wise its pretty negligible

[bright raptor]

not really, the difference is negligible if you're doing it right

[versed summit]

Rock N roll is overkill unless you're using the striker chest.

A fast hands or brazen ACS is honestly the best option if you're wanting a stack building secondary.

[cloud sorrel]

i was comparing it to the lefty

[summer totem]

Can i save a build then equip another one but if i feel like switching i only need to press 1 instead of manually adding each equipments

[cloud sorrel]

and yes, i'm using a shield, i can literally stay in front of mobs using 3 blues, i'm able to kill them fast enough to not lose my shield

[cloud sorrel]

yes, press H

(in your inventory)

[summer totem]

Neat, ive been manually changing each equipment whenever i feel like switching to skill based loadout lmao

[cloud sorrel]

lol, it'll be better now for sure x)

you can't change while in combat tho

[versed summit]

Or you can kill them fast enough to not need a shield

[cloud sorrel]

sure, i'm not saying i'm not using my 6 reds at all, i still like it, but i find that i'm more polyvalent while using 3 blues

[summer totem]

Heard about this but you can change piece by piece right?

[cloud sorrel]

it might be dumb, but i like it that way rn x)

[cloud sorrel]

yes

[cloud sorrel]

i'm using the equalizer and overdogs anyway, i still deal a shit ton of dmg, i'm hitting the 20mil dps on the first mag of dark winter, i find it enough atm

[timid token]

How the f is my crit chance at 81and crit damage at 184 am confused

[grand girder]

overdrive event

[cloud sorrel]

Current event

[timid token]

Ohh

[cloud sorrel]

don't forget to take 25% of your CHC off when making a build x)

or you'll have some troubles in 3 days lol

[cloud sorrel]

i meant to remember that it is increased by 25%, mb english isn't my first language x)

[grand girder]

you can build around it as normal? the chc cap increase also comes with a free 25% chc no?

[summer totem]

How long does it usually take to reach 1000

[cloud sorrel]

not really, cause it gives you 25% right now, so ppl will be like oh i'm at the 60% like that ? and in 3 days they will be at 35%

[summer totem]

Heard that's the level needed to max out shd watch stats

[timid token]

God it taking forever for me gang

[cloud sorrel]

that's what i meant

[summer totem]

@timid token im still 80 ToT

[timid token]

Omfg

[grand girder]

yeah but you said to take off 25%? theres no need to take any off a normal build for the free chc considering the cap gets increased anyway?

[summer totem]

Im finishing the campaign and collecting shd tech so yeah my progress is slow

[grand girder]

so it not like any is being wasted that you need to remove some from a build

[summer totem]

About to do the brooklyn dlc but somehow it wont allow me

[cloud sorrel]

yup, that's why i said, sry

[grand girder]

oh sorry didn't see that one

[cloud sorrel]

no worries

[grand girder]

thats on me xD

[olive dew]

wait why is overdogs like used for meta I understand it but is it used for just wiping out weak enemies quicker

[grand girder]

yes, it gives damage AMP which is one of the best buffs you can have in a build

[cloud sorrel]

you just said it x)

[summer totem]

Question about dlcs

[cloud sorrel]

to kill mobs quicker

[coral reef]

shoot

[grand girder]

bang

[summer totem]

Does the shady pack change every season

[coral reef]

yes, every season there is a new mask or whatever

[summer totem]

I mean will the shady pack get released every season

[summer totem]

Replaced*

[coral reef]

new mask or helmet and the current one is lost forever* (they have never come back, that could change)

[summer totem]

Oh so there's a cheap promo every season neat

Was gonna buy on cosmetics but i guess that will have to wait till next season

[shy willow]

Well cheaper not necessarily cheap but yeah, discounted credits and a bonus mask

[summer totem]

Have to buy the year 1 bundle then event pass first

Heard the year 1 bundle us a must have item

[shy willow]

Ehh hardly

Great great addition but not must have

[summer totem]

Classified assignments and national bank exp from my clan said

[cloud sorrel]

i think i don't even have year 1 pass

it's just some missions no ?

[summer totem]

Also saves time for the specialization quests

[coral reef]

classified assignments are FANTASTIC. Brand new missions, brand new locations, audios, lore, bosses, assets, puzzles

[summer totem]

Heard they're not hard but tedious to get

[grand girder]

it has*

[coral reef]

its a damn shame that not everyone can experience them

[cloud sorrel]

it's still 20 bucks, i don't feel like i want to buy it rn x)

[summer totem]

Are you being sarcastic- ToT

[coral reef]

I wish classy assigntments were in the rotation of the daily or weekly missions

[grand girder]

I really like the puzzle aspect of them lol

[summer totem]

Its only 12 bucks here

[grand girder]

the one I can remember right now is having to do a certain emote at a camera

[cloud sorrel]

20 in france, you'r lucky x)

[summer totem]

Regional pricing has its perks

[grand girder]

dont you also unlock the 3 specs in y1 bundle?

[coral reef]

stupid classified assignments, they should open them to everyone, they are great

[summer totem]

Real

[cloud sorrel]

maybe some day

[summer totem]

Its already 8 years ToT i doubt

[cloud sorrel]

or i should just buy the year 1 pass to experience those, but i really don't wanna spend 20€ rn

[summer totem]

Or 7 going 8

[shy willow]

Instant unlock yes

[coral reef]

depends... are you new? nah, plenty of content for you yet. Are you a veteran with years playing? what are you waiting for lmao

[shy willow]

Very convenient for new characters, plus bonus stash space

[cloud sorrel]

came back after 3 years like 3/4 days ago, but i have like 1000h in game x)

[shy willow]

National bond hogs all the attention but all the classified assignments are great, in fact if it weren't for the xp NBA would be insanely disappointing

[grand girder]

yep nba minus the xp is one of the worst classifieds

[coral reef]

you need to buy it. Its just more Div2 goodness

[summer totem]

How much levels could you get in national bond every run if done perfectly

[cloud sorrel]

i'll think about it x)

[grand girder]

during 5x xp about 9/10

runs can be done in less than 1min 30 aswell

it is absurdly broken

[summer totem]

I'm wrapping up with my campaign right now just finished up new york

Gonna finish brooklyn and focus on reaching 1000

[shy willow]

The nightclub is my favourite 🙏

[summer totem]

Jesus

[shy willow]

Whole vibe with puzzles sprinkled

[grand girder]

well thats with the right builds, strats and skill of course

[summer totem]

How bout the average clear time

[grand girder]

well I can't speak for others but it takes me 1:20/30 pretty much everytime

[shy willow]

Including the time it takes to reset expect 2 minute runs

Without that it's about what cyrlo said

[grand girder]

fastest cycle I've done personally was 1:43 with loading times

[summer totem]

Alr thanks im enlightened

[cloud sorrel]

i'm still using the old method to grind levels when i need comps since i came back 3 days ago lol
Lincoln memorial with full directives in HF Shotgun build, 1 level and a half each 4:30minutes, i know that's bad, but this is the only thing i know about fast xp right now x)

[summer totem]

I still cant do solo heroic rn

Can barely manage in a challenging world

[grand girder]

heroic?

[bright wind]

Anyone have a general idea on a good solo legendary build

[cloud sorrel]

yes

[grand girder]

cause a 4:30 clear is nothing to smirk at, my fastest chatter runs have been 4:25

and they are near perfectly run with good rng

[cloud sorrel]

same 4:30 is when i have a good rng with some doors and using a quickstep

[flint arch]

red striker

but having the best build in the world doesn't matter in a solo legendary run if you're not skilled enough

[cloud sorrel]

otherwise it's more like 5 minutes

[grand girder]

this is the classified mission (mods I am not showing how to exploit and haven't discussed the methods behind doing so it is simply gameplay of the mission itself)

ignore the fumbling of aim at the end, I had skill issue

[timid token]

Not even playing for me 🙁

[cloud sorrel]

i tried the sheriff too, cause ppl where saying it is broken, i find it to be not that good

my m870 does more damage by alot using pummel

[trim folio]

so which gear set do i use for drone/turret?

[pearl marten]

is creeping death good with scorpio

[flint arch]

eclipse foam is good with creeping death, but scorpio itself no

[shy willow]

No

[flint arch]

idk why i mentioned eclipse foam

[cloud sorrel]

i'm using 2 empress, 2 hana-u, 1 wyvern and the exotic holster personnaly

[pearl marten]

why not

[flint arch]

i haven't slept in 24 hours lol

[coral reef]

yes but if you pair it with some eclipse protocol goodness

[shy willow]

Sheriff derives it's advantage from it's absurd accuracy and range and being semi auto

[shy willow]

Cuz that's like the top use for creeping death

[coral reef]

the effects of scorpio are short lived, its not worth it with creeping death alone

[cloud sorrel]

yeah, idk, i even tried it with a chainkiller, i'm really not convinced

[shy willow]

Apparently some people use it on FI situationally as well but I always run oppo

[coral reef]

you need a full eclipse protocol build, fire oriented or foam oriented

[flint arch]

im aware

[pearl marten]

how do you build around eclipse protocol

[shy willow]

Stack status effects and either skill damage or haste

[flint arch]

eclipse protocol guide

[grand girder]

there really is just a guide to everything huh

[shy willow]

Games like 7 years old sir

[grand girder]

jarvis make me a completely useless build, boom guide reference

[coral reef]

beware, Eclipse protocol is good up to challenging in my opinion. On Heroic (unless you're in a group in charge of foaming everything) the damage falls apart

[flint arch]

why ask a fictional ai when you can ask a real LLM to hallucinate the most horrendous NBB build for you

[grand girder]

eclipse is fun for hard speedrunning from what I've heard

[shy willow]

Vile jammer is probably still the strat

[grand girder]

NBB + 5pc tip of the spear

[coral reef]

yeah, on hard its the most op thing ever lol... but who wants to "speedrun" on hard

[flint arch]

ah yes, the "classified" set

[coral reef]

even on challenging works great

[grand girder]

surprisingly there is a group of people that do

[coral reef]

im guessing is just to see how fast can they do it? cuz there are not advantages whatsoever

[shy willow]

There's categories for everything

[cloud sorrel]

do we have any news on when the weapons HUD will be patched ? it's so annoying with some talents, and especially weapons like the chameleon

[grand girder]

its fun to see how far you can break something in a game

[shy willow]

Rest in pieces tips🙏

[coral reef]

its already officially on the known issues board

[grand girder]

many dismantled pieces 🙏

[cloud sorrel]

ok, ty

[grand girder]

dang the 5 chameleon users will be so upset til that update

[flint arch]

i regret to inform you that i followed some shit reddit guide about a tip of the spear build for hollywood when i just returned to div 2

needless to say that was the last time i will take any build from any source that isn't the spreadsheet or iKia's videos

[coral reef]

yeah ive seen lots of people in here asking 'why dont this work' and their source is a youtube video with the build + some old global event superpowers

[pearl marten]

where can i find the spreadsheet

[cloud sorrel]

chameleon is fun to use :3

[flint arch]

at least they were kinda honest that it only really worked during hollywood

[hazy steeple]

@pearl marten 📌 pinned in this channel, "spreadsheet 2"

[mint axle]

I mean, the grenade launcher for Hollywood is fun actually

[grand girder]

but this guy hits 5million crits (its dark winter with max expertise using countdowns close range buff)

[pearl marten]

ty

[cloud sorrel]

is the banshee still the same dps than a dark winter btw ? with the base dmg of the weapon it was almost the same, something like 200k less dmg when i played last time, so on a 20mil dps we can say it was the same x)

[shy willow]

Doubt it

[hazy steeple]

It's important to remember not to focus on per/shot damage when discussing DPS, especially with crit setups.

[shy willow]

The banshee was slammed with a nerf along with a lot of smgs a while back

[hazy steeple]

@shy willow change the edit back, it's way funnier

[shy willow]

💀

The vector has always been a top option

[hazy steeple]

Dark Winter was always an amazing gun, but when MSV randomly buffed the Talent to excessively strong levels, now eveyone can see just how wonderful it is.

[lone violet]

Question is measured assembly not a good gear set?

[mint axle]

Look how they massacred my lady death over the years 😭

[grand girder]

in general? meh, in a skill issue savior niche issue in incursion? yeah its a good set

[cloud sorrel]

just tried both again, yeah, the dark winter does way more dmg than my banshee now, even tho my banshee is perfectly rolled, and my dark winter isn't x)

[uneven nest]

happy to say im pretty much damage build. I think the additional percentages are mainly SHD points… just have to keep playing and rolling stuff I guess

[shy willow]

Good yes but categorically outclassed

[lone violet]

Wouldn’t shock me since we got refractor

[mint axle]

In the first game it was, in the second not so much.

[shy willow]

Nah it's competing with FI, which is significantly better

[flint arch]

i miss final measure (I never actually used it in Div 1)

[cloud sorrel]

time to say goodbye i guess, it was one of my best drop when i played a while back x)

it dropped rolled like that, jsut had to swap the talent x)

[shy willow]

I think it would've been more interesting if they added the whole original point of FM which is it can defuse grenades

[grand girder]

I miss Gjallarhorn... damn wrong D1

[shy willow]

Think it would make MA much more viable without making it broken

[uneven nest]

With expertise I can only use the same exotic as donation? There any way around that?

[shy willow]

You can donate materials

[mint axle]

We could put those in #1380126780152614944

[uneven nest]

and it will go toward my chameleon expertise? 😮

[grand girder]

proficiency yeah

[uneven nest]

Niiiiice. Perfect. Thank you!

[signal frigate]

Is heartbreaker good for damage and survivability or not really ?

[flint arch]

jank Striker when all cores are rerolled to red

you're better off using the real thing

[signal frigate]

Wym real thing

[flint arch]

striker

heartbreaker copied striker's homework and added the condition of pulsing the enemy

the bonus armor you get from HB isn't going to help you a lot, and it regenerates really slowly because the only way to get more bonus armor is to wait for HB stacks to decay and then regain them

alongside that, you need to use Technician for LLP, so no exotics allowed, no weapons that don't have a long rail, and no innate AoK that Gunner gives

[reef panther]

what are actually the best builds for master difficulties and such? Basic/meta red striker seems ok-ish, but with low expertise/SHD levels the armor value seems a real glass cannon (it gets better, right?) and i know for sure that master diff is gonna wrek me

[cloud sorrel]

Perfect Carbine 7 available at new york rn btw

rolled are there already, just need to swap the talent

[short verge]

its good with a combo red cores and blue cores if you're like me and you're tentative about exploring a new mission, especially the manhunts

once im more comfortable with mission replays, thats when i switch it out with something with more dps

[lone violet]

Chat is it worth making a neo dilemma build?

[livid sorrel]

You mean Nego? Sure, it's fun

[lone violet]

Yeah I was on the fence tbh cause I originally wanted to get a build around st Elmo but I can’t think of what gear set would be good with that exotic then I saw a nego set up using big al and now idk

[short verge]

whatever you wanna do, it's your call

cant wait to get big alejandro again

[livid sorrel]

Nego works with any crit gun

[lone violet]

What about st Elmo what gear set do people run with that or is the exotic not that good

[livid sorrel]

Striker

[short verge]

st elmo works with any gear set, strikers is the obvious one since its archetype is the fast rpm assault rifle

[silver coral]

anyone know what is the talent for the backback?

[bright raptor]

It's the integral talent of the gearset backpack

gearset chest and backpacks have fixed talents that enhance the gearset talent

[livid sorrel]

IIRC it's more damage per coco stack

[flint arch]

I think it's an increased weapon damage buff per stack

[silver coral]

ok thankss

[burnt bone]

from 3 to 5% per stack

[short verge]

coco

[burnt bone]

i was actually just wondering about CoCo, does that build work for non pestilence stuff (using ceska GC or the sacrifice)

and what skills do yall like to run with it

[flint arch]

iirc it works for other stuff too, but it's annoying to use in solo

[signal frigate]

What build should I make just wondering between these 2

[burnt bone]

oh lol i forgot i need to subtract 25% frm my crit numbers when making builds

[finite quest]

Where about in NY?

[deep fossil]

i suggest the left one, since the more skill dmg u deal, more heal u will give to u and ur allies

[signal frigate]

Ty

[cloud sorrel]

outside

At Roy Benitez's shop

[uneven nest]

This a Assault Rifle? I could just look I guess but yea lol

[olive dew]

@flint arch with the striker build why isn't the bighorn in the recommended list of guns for primarys

it's got good firerate

[pseudo arrow]

Is this a somewhat decent striker build?

[shy willow]

Because it's harder to use than most assault rifles and the talent won't work on enemies without heads

[shy willow]

It'll work

[ivory abyss]

What builds are recommended for the tidal basin legacy bounty mission the pact. For the tempest

[shy willow]

Not the best but functional

[pseudo arrow]

Any tips to make it better

[ivory abyss]

Would refrac drone build work?

[shy willow]

You can try but you're better off with striker

[ivory abyss]

All reds? With striker or the hybrid one with the blues and red

[shy willow]

Replace the chest for a high end one (equaliser, the sacrifice) and the holster for striker and the gloves for overdogs

If you don't have overdogs you can slot on something else

[pseudo arrow]

Alrighty I don’t got the over dogs though

I’ve been grinding for them but they’re tough to get

[shy willow]

Whatever you're comfortable with; all red is the most difficult to play but has the highest potential

[shy willow]

Can run a piece of ceska or exodus gloves in its place if you have it

[pseudo arrow]

Great thank you for the advice

[shy willow]

There's a pinned spreadsheet with a build hub that contains a guide on striker, worth a read

[lone violet]

For strikers it’s chd and CHC for rolls right?

[shy willow]

Yes

[solar sable]

for any dps build

[late bone]

Hey All, I havent played D2 in some time and im jumping back in. I have clearly missed a lot but I was hoping someone could point me towards a good starter build I could go for to help me play most of the activities and help farm for the higher end builds. Thanks in advance.

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[late bone]

Thank you

[stark furnace]

Coyote striker->equalizer, overdogs striker.

[late bone]

Thank you

[olive dew]

Are there any weapons that are close to the lexington where I can get all 4 mods, good rpm, and a changeable talent

[onyx sage]

famas, police m4

[stark furnace]

Police ar

[lone violet]

Ok looks like I’m gonna farm striker for st Elmo people run shield and reviver right? And what high end pieces do people run

Cause I have tinker and over dogs

[pallid siren]

is tinkerer better than overdogs?

[pallid siren]

equalizer and if you dont use exotic gear use another piece of unit alloy for +20% ar dmg

[shy willow]

Completely depends on context and use case there's not a definitive answer

[pallid siren]

countdown, legendary mission retals and those

js overall end game

[onyx sage]

tinkerer vs overdogs is basically how strong your second weapon talent is vs 30% with variable uptime

most of the time you're not beating that 30%

[lone violet]

I might use over dog gloves with st Elmo’s so I’m just thinking
Striker

mask
chest
holster
back pack or knees

[onyx sage]

don't use striker chest, equalizer and overdogs works

[pallid siren]

coyote striker is better than equalizer? do u use striker chest or no?

[pallid siren]

if no overdogs?

[onyx sage]

then ceska

[onyx sage]

he meant ->, not >

[pallid siren]

why not unit alloy for +20% ar

[lone violet]

Ok so use stiker bp instead

[pallid siren]

ok

[onyx sage]

because you have a secondary that you use in other situations

[lone violet]

I need to farm equalizer anyway to fix my big all set up anyway

[onyx sage]

something like unwavering smg-9 or just basic acs with brazen deals good damage, especially acs which would benefit from ceska

[stark furnace]

Yup, coyote is quick to start with, overdogs might take some time with the rng

[pallid siren]

anyway i can get coyote super fast? and coyote or 2 piece unit alloy??

[lone violet]

What brand is equalizer?

[pallid siren]

unit alloy

[knotty flicker]

Gotta run Jefferson trade center (I believe thats the mission name)

[pallid siren]

jeffrey epstein?

[stark furnace]

Or countdown with target loot, any exo cache

[pallid siren]

too rng

[knotty flicker]

Its a chance drop from the final boss, the higher the difficulty the greater the chance, I ran the hardest difficulty and got it after like maybe 15 or so runs

[stark furnace]

Everything is in the beginning 🙂 Trying to get the catalyst myself..

[knotty flicker]

Its not a hard grind if you do the mission but it does take a little dedication

[pallid siren]

is it better than the 2 piece unit alloy? the +20% ar dmg?

tinkerer sounds op, js imagine a gr9 with measured and frenzy.

[stark furnace]

Might try it, tipping scales works…overdogs is in that build too

Variant…if not tinkerer

[pallid siren]

overdogs seem hard to use, like the targeting is weird, ion know how to use em

[knotty flicker]

I got my cyo for the crit damage and weapon. So it can fit alot of places, I feel like there's better options than Cyo

[stark furnace]

I just shoot stuff, buff or no buff 🙂

[pallid siren]

show me the talent pls

[knotty flicker]

Over dogs just need you to look at the weakest enemy, its good at high difficulty when everyone is the same teir

[onyx sage]

most enemies you get will be at tier 3 in most content

assault, thrower, sniper, rusher, etc.

[knotty flicker]

0–15 meters: +25% critical hit damage
15–25 meters: +10% critical hit chance and +10% critical hit damage
25+ meters: +25% critical hit chance The Coyote's Mask has one generic gear mod slot and can accept any gear mod. It also offers a maximum of +15% weapon damage, +6% critical hit chance, and +12% critical hit damage.

[onyx sage]

easy overdogs proc on them

[knotty flicker]

I grabbed that from Google ai over view btw

[stark furnace]

Anyone tried the blacklisters with the same dogs talent?

[onyx sage]

you could just scroll down on this screen and show him the screenshot too btw

[knotty flicker]

Im at work

[onyx sage]

yeah, works just like overdogs but on knees

[knotty flicker]

The photo is the one I took when I got it to drop a few days ago so I cant scroll unfortunately

[stark furnace]

What is the gear set usually paired with it?

[onyx sage]

anything that works with overdogs normally

there's nothing hidden about it

[stark furnace]

Yup…st. Elmo overdogs gets a bit boring at times…

[onyx sage]

we've been recommending other sets like ongoing, negotiator's etc. all the time here

[stark furnace]

Will have to look into them, I just have strikers and refactor for support. Been a bit lazy with the builds…came back just after Krampus event..

Been farming the exotics etc. sadly no luck with turmoil last seasons end..

[pallid siren]

what are like the best 2 exotics for striker? overdogs and elmo?

[lone violet]

So striker
Mask
Bp
Holster
Knee

So looks like imma farm chest

[burnt bone]

Best gun is a high end with damage talent

[onyx sage]

something something exotic does not mean best

[shy willow]

But sir I was told overdogs are the best

[tulip charm]

Thats where you're wrong and elmos the best

[onyx sage]

this speedrunner doesn't use overdogs except in one specific segment where it works best so he clearly doesn't know what he's doing

[shy willow]

Disliked and reported for fraud and misinformation

[pallid siren]

god is playing with me

[tulip charm]

his way of tell you to dismantle

[pallid siren]

nah

its almost perfect im keeping it

[pallid siren]

what the actual fluck

but equalizer drops with skill haste and weapon handling...

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[pallid siren]

tipping scales or striker?

[tulip charm]

I never tried TS

Just came back to the game

[pallid siren]

same

[smoky latch]

Today is opposite day 🫠

[neat fjord]

Guys do u have any fun build?

[pallid siren]

6 piece bullwark nemesis build

[flint arch]

God no

[pallid siren]

its fun

[flint arch]

It's bad enough at 4 pcs

[buoyant perch]

✝️

[pallid siren]

its fun:D

[flint arch]

You want to run 6pc wtf

[pallid siren]

for fun factor

[flint arch]

Gear sets do jack after the 4th piece

[smoky latch]

Fun for what? Give more info

[pallid siren]

they increase fun

[flint arch]

So fun means handicapping yourself, never knew that

[onyx sage]

u just hate fun

[flint arch]

You're average

[onyx sage]

i hate u @tulip charm

[onyx sage]

furthering my agenda to make everyone good at the game so that i actually become the average

[flint arch]

At this point why not try 6pc exhausted equipment gear set

Maximum fun by virtue of being health gated instantly by scraping your arm on the concrete

[flint arch]

Sisyphus incarnate

[onyx sage]

step on a needle on the floor and die instantly from self damage

[olive dew]

is my movement just really bad jeez these guys are shredding me

[smoky latch]

No clue what you mean, but yes

[olive dew]

Like I need shield to play, i feel like my movement and how I go around enemies is horrid

[smoky latch]

Use cover, shield is last resort

[onyx sage]

NPCs don't care if you're zigzagging them, you're intended to use cover to cover to reposition

[tulip charm]

bruh

[vernal wing]

5 Red Core Future Initiative, all crit roles.
Mechanical Animal and Capacitor with BTSU Gloves
Restorer Hive and Reinforce Chem Launcher

Technician

Ceska Bag w/ Vigilance

[olive dew]

is there a crazy 1 shot sniper build

for the fun of it

[willow sigil]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1j4Km15oZKIc1Hym0y-G2nMMYDH6mqRgLiumI68E724E/edit?tab=t.0
I was sent this.

[olive dew]

Is there an updated regulus build, that sounds fun

[vernal wing]

The best ones are either 4 piece 200 striker or just all high end parts that max Headshot damage and handling. Fox Pray, Punch Drunk and Contr Gloves

You’ll want dodge city holster if you don’t have it already.

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NNLiB-SZH-LChI9gE18q-PdYGqHac4Gep9UQVUtg0as/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.rwk7sa35vic3

"Updated" could look like:

Punch Drunk
3 pcs IA, incl chest with HH and backpack with Vigilance
Overdogs/DCH
Fox's Prayer

HSD main attribute, WH secondary attribute

[edgy bone]

it finally happened I got my overdogs 😭

[smoky latch]

Very important screenshot, many players don't believe they can drop from CD 😄

Cheers

[crystal copper]

what are some good build for the ravenous?

[timid token]

Always get it from countdown 🙂

[smoky latch]

It's pretty niche and not used much due to how it works

[flint arch]

this is the first time I've seen overdogs drop... anywhere at all

[vernal wing]

That’s crazy, I had to run 50 retals and craft mine 😂 I wasn’t sure it still dropped anywhere

[opal swallow]

hey, do y'all have a recommended build for fresh 40. I'm new to endgame content and not too sure how to proceed to reach there.

[edgy bone]

I saw this guide being posted around yesterday

[olive dew]

😡 🤬

[smoky latch]

Getting Overdogs will probably take a while

[edgy bone]

if it makes you feel better my overdogs dropped after 2 bloody knuckles 2 btsu datagloves and a pair of rugged gauntlets

I was convinced they were gonna make me collect 2 of each exotic gloves before they eventually dropped for me lmao

[manic bough]

I got a question since im kinda stuck and I dont know how to improve my dps

• 4 pc striker
• Equalizer Chest
• Turmoil Knees
• Elmo
• 2 blue cores, 4 red cores
• almost 60% crit chance
• 140% crit damage
  Im hitting for like 300k per shot which is awfully low and I dont think changing the 2 blue cores to red would fix the issue
  Expertise is level 12 and applied to everything

[olive dew]

im more happy i got an exotic never got one in cd lol

[smoky latch]

Ditch Turmoil, use Overdogs/GS gloves until you have Overdogs. Alternatively use the Salvo holster, whatever you prefer

The two blue cores should be red, too

Im hitting for like 300k per shot which is awfully low and I dont think changing the 2 blue cores to red would fix the issue
Expertise is level 12 and applied to everything

Did you read Turmoil's talent description?

[manic bough]

ditching turmoil would mean losing on AoE which would make it even worse. the two blues are there for survival but i could try changing that.

[smoky latch]

Generally, Turmoil is really only useful on HH/one-shot builds

[smoky latch]

Turmoil's talent is no "AoE" lol.
It is merely a damage split between your target and another, randomly selected NPC

If you wanna deal damage to multiple targets use Negotiator's Dilemma

[timid token]

Don’t even know how talent work I might need a guide xd

[manic bough]

but hitting two targets at once is good,isnt it? any other source of free aoe besides dilemma?

[subtle bluff]

Splitting your dmg so that your single target TTK doubles can be very bad.

[smoky latch]

You deal 50% damage to your target, the other 50% do to a randomly selected target and you have no influence on that. If you need to prioritze enemies it helps nothing at all

[smoky latch]

That is the logical consequence, ofc

[onyx sage]

it's not like you're doubling your damage with it

[smoky latch]

Again, Turmoil does no do any AoE. If you wanna deal damage to multiple targets, use ND

[manic bough]

Well I guess I have to try it. Just seems "odd" to pick every enemy one by one in a lootershooter game where aoe and efficiency should be #1 priority

[willow sigil]

is it quicker to farm for a piece with max rolled attributes, or farm optimization mats?

[onyx sage]

well there is aoe in this game, it's called regulus

and to a lesser extent, mortars, oxidizers, and even lesser are multi target builds like eclipse and ND

[smoky latch]

Keep a piece that is almost fully rolled and optimize the rest

[vernal wing]

Not killing the most important enemy in 1 shot is more detrimental than having to aim at a second enemy.

[onyx sage]

yeah unlike in many games enemies in this game don't have to take long to kill you xD

[willow sigil]

if i am going to have to optimize it anyways if its 5% there or 80% there does it really matter?

[gentle lichen]

enemy density isn't warframe level to warrant extreme aoe use

[subtle bluff]

I also like to say that Div2 combat isn't like your traditional rpg/lootemshooter

[smoky latch]

If it's a unicorn it's worth keeping a crappy roll

Otherwise if it's like 75% filled, keep it until you find a better piece or until you have the mats to optimize

[willow sigil]

nah im just talking about my basic striker gear, they have all the correct stats but not maxed. so i was wondering if its better use of my time to just go out and farm gear until it drops with 2 max stats, or if its better time spent just farming up tactical assesments to optimize what i have now

[lament reef]

Pestilence sort of has it. If you can tick kill before the timer goes, it bounces around

[smoky latch]

If it's just Striker's (or any gear set for that matter) just farm for a better one unless you're in a rush for some reason

[willow sigil]

sounds good thanks

[manic bough]

im gonna try and see if it increases clear speed

[gentle lichen]

its locked to 1 damage tick per second though your best results with it might be with a concentrated company build

[manic bough]

Oh,what I meant was im gonna try with overdogs instead of turmoil and see if im any faster

[lone violet]

got special is good for striker? gunner?

[subtle bluff]

special?

[subtle bluff]

If you kwtd it will.

[onyx sage]

specialization

[lone violet]

ye

[onyx sage]

gunner is most used

[smoky latch]

Gunner is good for DPS builds

[manic bough]

kwtd?

[subtle bluff]

know what to do

[manic bough]

yeah shoot red,purple,yellow - in that order

[smoky latch]

You mean for Overdogs?

[manic bough]

yes

[onyx sage]

that's not how overdogs works btw

[smoky latch]

That is a misconception

[gentle lichen]

it depends on heirarchy not quality of enemy

[smoky latch]

#td2-build-advice message

[onyx sage]

#td2-build-advice message

[gentle lichen]

it's listed on the talent description

[subtle bluff]

no.. for turmoil..

[manic bough]

OH nvm then! yeah ok gotcha

[lone violet]

ok so i have a striker bp with CHD

[hearty owl]

Turmoil is great for HH builds and does increase efficiency 🙂 don’t know why you’d wear it anywhere else

[olive dew]

Does this refer to the kill order or do you have to kill from that up to get a gradual buff?

[smoky latch]

YT Builds

[lone violet]

but i gotta farm the rest anyways and what chest piece do i need again?

[olive dew]

Or is it just a general buff based on the tiers of enemies

[onyx sage]

if there are tier 3 enemies, only they get the buff
if there are no tier 3 enemies but there are tier 2 enemies, they get the buff

and so on

[subtle bluff]

Not a kill order... I almost never follow..

[manic bough]

nah I had that idea myself since no YT build recommends those for general gameplay 😄

[onyx sage]

don't read it from left to right

[smoky latch]

What dien said

[wooden bloom]

how to make a good dps build ?

[lone violet]

whats the chest piece i needed to get it was a named one for dps builds

[subtle bluff]

SHD level?

[subtle bluff]

I've swore we've tried to show this already..

[smoky latch]

You probably mean Equalizer

[lone violet]

yeah

[manic bough]

I dont really enjoy or play one shot builds,but turmoil is fun on shotgun with hunters fury 😄

[lone violet]

ty

[smoky latch]

I think some people here have already linked you to several guides. Bookmark those guides in your browser and take a look when you have questions like that

[lone violet]

aight brb gonna farm

[smoky latch]

Keep in mind we had a special event last week that allowed you to run that, now Turmoil isn't an option for those builds anymore

[olive dew]

Chow remember that bighorn build you showed what would you flesh it out with it, gunner? decoy and pulse?

[onyx sage]

shotgun hunter's fury and one shot you say...

you can do both

[willow sigil]

is the crit chance above 85% a visual bug? or is the cap not 85%?

[smoky latch]

Eveeeeeeeeent

[subtle bluff]

There isn't a set skills for DPS builds. It's dealer choice.

[willow sigil]

well right, but the event states the cap is raised is 85%

[gentle lichen]

yes anything above it is only visual

[willow sigil]

thanks

[hearty owl]

They should uncap it

[onyx sage]

just ignore it yeah, even if it says 100% chc you won't crit sometimes so obviously it's not actually 100%

[hearty owl]

Don’t thumbs down me I’m right

[willow sigil]

at least now i dont have to do maths to know that im over

[gentle lichen]

100% chc ND is nuts

have to put my grasses on for that one

[onyx sage]

it would be absolute levels of cracked

[hearty owl]

😃

[wooden bloom]

474

[subtle bluff]

HF and Striker are the top go to.

[wooden bloom]

bet

[cosmic forge]

left is a carbine7, right is a police M4, both have killer and the same attachments, is the slightly faster reload speed on the Carbine 7 and its potentially higher dmg (not proficient in carb7 yet) going to be worth the switch?

i saw iKia recommend a P416, which i also have with killer but it has CHD instead of dttooc

[smoky latch]

I'd take Police M4 over Carbine 7 due to higher RoF. Otherwise both ARs are great

[burnt bone]

I prefer m4 because it looks cooler :3

But I do think it’s also statistically better than carbine?

I imagine it’s close enough that you can use whichever you want

[smoky latch]

Pretty much

[burnt bone]

But what if

[manic bough]

Ok so - new setup is better, I stand corrected. apologies for my stubbornness. Even though I miss the turmoil effect,the damage is significantly higher with better clear speed

[smoky latch]

All good

[burnt bone]

Yeah turmoil is kinda bait

[subtle bluff]

for Strikers it's any wepaon with +790 rpm w/killer and DTTooC

[uneven nest]

Dammit so I’m realizing you can only recalibrate one attribute slot and I messed up and thought headshot dmg was good for my build… have to find another backpack and chest rig 🙁

[manic bough]

I got a question to that! If you dont have DTTooC and have Crit chance instead, wouldnt that be somewhat similar dps wise? The extra crit chance frees up mod slots for chd instead. genuine question as im trying to understand why

[uneven nest]

BUT I did get coyote mask 2nd countdown run today. Some good!

[burnt bone]

DTOC is calculated separately into overall damage from the other bonuses, which means it has a much greater effect on damage

[manic bough]

OH so after the entire damage calc, it takes your total DTOC and multiplies your damage with that DTOC?

[burnt bone]

May I present

[uneven nest]

Yoink

[smoky latch]

Keep it and spread it

[subtle bluff]

someone needs to work on it.. 😶

[manic bough]

may your sneezes never be painful again,thank you good sir!

[burnt bone]

My sneezes will always be painful. I will know no peace as long as the enemy remains within

[uneven nest]

May be a stupid question but does DTTooc apply to literally running around or breaching cover to fire?

[burnt bone]

If they’re not crouching down hiding from you, the bonus applies

[uneven nest]

Running around is NOT in cover animation

meaning if he is peeking a concrete barrier it applies. Which donkey made clear. I can read.

[smoky latch]

@burnt bone

[burnt bone]

?