td2-build-advice

[vapid kiln]

Doesn't really seem much build advice has been said to me

[hazy steeple]

Do you prop them up in a door so enemies physically can't get through?

[cerulean smelt]

quite a bit, but you're stubborn or just being oblivious to what's being said

[subtle bluff]

Sorry I had to use can. But there ways to tough and still be able to do dmg.

[solar sable]

You guys deal with this stubborn guy, i'm out.

[vapid kiln]

Imo you're the one being stubborn, cause all I've seen was scalding for using a tank build, and that such and such un named things can do better which doesn't help

[fair dragon]

I mean, its hard to justify "not needing watch bonuses", sure you can complete content with less damage, but its the QoL that the watch brings. It actually means more than the damage itself

For example, when starting the encounter in Tidal Basin, the moment i drop the decoy, im racing against time to kill enemies before the decoy expires. I'm doing less damage (-weapon damage, -chd, -chc) and decoy is inferior (-skill haste, -skill duration). All these factors add up.

[cerulean smelt]

hey, wasn't finished reading that 😹

[subtle bluff]

Can I ask how are you farming for your belstone?

[vapid kiln]

Targeted loot in countdown, but getting both reds i need on it to swap talent, or talent and 1 red 1 blue to swap blue to red

I've gotten not 1 thats usable out of about 15 chest drops

Still just using equalizer

[cerulean smelt]

welcome to division 2

[vapid kiln]

I like my all red bighorn stiker overdog, but I die way to quick

[cerulean smelt]

i posted this earlier as a decent hybrid/skill build. it got torn up, despite i said my 2 pieces i haven't found the will to farm them up yet. 1 being the chest that drops with armor core, 2 randome attribute and random talent. best i've gotten is glass cannon talent, with chance or damage on it, so i changed one attribute and kept the armor to hold until i get the proper chest which still eludes me

[vapid kiln]

New harrier backpack?

[cerulean smelt]

with that you should just follow the youtuber builds of Haz Pro backfire

oh right, giving it a try to figure it out, usually a memento

[vapid kiln]

Its talent doesn't strike me for being viable on skill setup

[north bramble]

How do I get the maxed out mods to put on my gear. I’ve got like 150 hours on the game and only seen ones that are like 80% maxed.

[vapid kiln]

For skills I'd use waveform but thats me

[cerulean smelt]

rngesus or lootcifer

still not seeing the bigger picture of the build

[hexed steppe]

i stopped looking for one @ hour 2000. im about to hit 8k and still havent passively found one

[smoky latch]

I apologized 🙁

Really overlooked that part, lol

[north bramble]

So in terms of builds when people have maxed out ones on all their pieces, is that just them being lucky or a lot of play time

[cerulean smelt]

i didn't mention any names 😹

[smoky latch]

I can feel your thoughts tho 😛

[cerulean smelt]

streamers probably had "help" but for the most part it's people who's played forever and just got lucky most of the time

[vapid kiln]

No idea what I'm supposed to have seen

[north bramble]

Hmm ok. So I just have to put on what I have and hope I get upgrades.

[subtle bluff]

Ya you're going for almost a Prefect unicorn loot.

[cerulean smelt]

said hybrid skill build aka i'm trying to be all weapon damage on my gear pieces got 2 yellows so that i can do weapon damage and skill damage together

so basically hopefully i'll be at somethiing like 4 weapon damage cores, 6 skill tiers and doing damage like i'm all 6 red cores

[hexed steppe]

whats the talent on the bag. i still havent logged since maintenance

[cerulean smelt]

kind of tricky. might have to agree with @strong cave that it's a nothing burger exotic

[vapid kiln]

Similar to memento just don't need to pick up trophies, and instead of armor its DR

[hexed steppe]

memento way stronger tho

[cerulean smelt]

far from memento since memento gives skill efficiency and this does nothing for skills at all

[hexed steppe]

looks like its right there with ninja

[cerulean smelt]

just trying to figure it out with the current build since ambush wants us to be stationary and trying to get 300 stationary skill kills i think?

[hexed steppe]

ummm, mortar

[cerulean smelt]

still dont work to well with how you have to get that stationary skill kill. dunno how many times i try to just let skills do the killing but it doesn't count 😹 or i get noticed before i get the buff

[vapid kiln]

@subtle bluff I've tried heartbreaker didn't go so well for me

[subtle bluff]

So here's a balance of being tough and being able to do enough DPS. A FB build get taken down.

[flint arch]

on the topic of harrier pride, i did some very rudimentary and informal testing comparing it and memento, using either on a standard striker build
conclusion: if you're planning to spawn camp the enemies and pump them full of lead while being in their faces, memento all the way

i'm pretty sure overall damage is actually kinda the same, but you just get way more utility from memento

[vapid kiln]

I've even tried 3 peice gila with chill out mask, memento, ceska holster, equalizer still had a rough go

[subtle bluff]

You can't tank too many bullets it the story.

[cerulean smelt]

memento is more on the simplier side of managing it's talent. harrier is brand new and think most of it is figuring out how to utilize it to it's maximum potential

[frozen haven]

This works

Facetanking and all, annoying to manage though

Also the dumbest way to build heartbreaker

[subtle bluff]

in what content?

[flint arch]

probably

[solar sable]

||Challenging||

[subtle bluff]

You're missing context.

[flint arch]

wait let me just remember exactly what the talent does

[smoky latch]

Isn't HB one of the sets where the chest is recommended? Or am I outdated?

[flint arch]

max buff is 79.5% weapon damage/damage resistance, so 5.3 red cores
memento max long-term buff is 30% weapon damage (2 cores), 30% skill efficiency (idk what this correlates to) and 3% armor regen

[subtle bluff]

Def Drone is in there. So it's only while it's up.

[solar sable]

wtf is glass doing in a tank build

[frozen haven]

This is just the stupid version, you can also use the HB chestpiece

But you can run around without dying easily, hit over 1,3 mill and build harrier stacks both ends

[subtle bluff]

WHAT CONTENT ARE you doing this?

[frozen haven]

I just found it funny that you have 67% damage reduction and throw it in the garbage with Glass Cannon

[frozen haven]

DUA legendary

[subtle bluff]

TY. But I answer most of my question with a Def drone there

[frozen haven]

Damage!

[flint arch]

okay, so if you can play perfectly well, you can squeeze 5.3 red cores out of the bag

[vapid kiln]

Anybody got a dps pve bighorn build

[subtle bluff]

You won't like it

[vapid kiln]

How so

[smoky latch]

PGC

[solar sable]

you were having fun here

[livid sorrel]

I just slap mine on strikers

[solar sable]

fun isnt allowed mr sir good sir Chow

[subtle bluff]

With BH.

[subtle bluff]

This is VERY old build...

[vapid kiln]

What is there not to like about it?

[subtle bluff]

PGC

[subtle bluff]

Sir... I wasn't have fun there.. DID YOU SEE there DPS??? I was carrying them with all my effort.

[solar sable]

that's my point 🤣

[flint arch]

a 2nd providence piece is better than a fox's prayer?

[subtle bluff]

Foxes isn't that great.

[cerulean smelt]

the 2 providence is named items which is usually the goto for red dps builds

[subtle bluff]

But yes CHC is better in this case

[flint arch]

dammit i dismantled all of my unit alloy kneecaps

[cerulean smelt]

cracks whip get to farming 😹

[subtle bluff]

This was the build before this season for HE BH builds.

[cerulean smelt]

usually not a fan of HB, but i might give that a shot

[subtle bluff]

It runs easier with the ammo with UA. The end issues with BH unless you're gonna aim for the head it not special

[subtle bluff]

Striker version would be better.

[cerulean smelt]

wish i had the dien hack too 😹

[frozen haven]

Don't make this, or if you do just use the HB chestpiece

[vapid kiln]

What skills should I use

3 peices still need optimization but the roots are there

[cerulean smelt]

think skills is just your your personal preference at this point

[vapid kiln]

Prob stick with crusader and reviver then

[subtle bluff]

Shield lower on the list when you have a GC on.

Since it does read all incoming.

[vapid kiln]

So then what skill

Decoy?

Or banshee?

[cerulean smelt]

whatever lets you run it comfortably i'd say

[flint arch]

those are the most popular choices

emp sticky is also used when you're running leggo or just black tusk in general

lets you disable warhounds and makes marauders a lot more manageable

[vapid kiln]

Bruh this build just melted tf out of a challenging hunter in countdown way faster then anything I've seen

[onyx sage]

it hits

[subtle bluff]

HE DPS build that use GC, Vigilance and overdogs on ya hits.

[vapid kiln]

HE?

I actually like it, idk why you said I wouldn't cause PGC

Actually doing good dps now, not just on paper dps in the range

[cerulean smelt]

High End. shortened to HE

[vapid kiln]

Don't have to worry about stacks or nothing either

[smoky sigil]

Anyone have a Shroud build that they could recommend?

[cerulean smelt]

99% people don't like taking 60% damage for 30% more damage

[vapid kiln]

I can see that in the case of solo play, but in countdown its fine

[subtle bluff]

Hotshot

[signal frigate]

Hey question

Does anyone have a pic of the crowd control build

I want to see how this looks

[subtle bluff]

There's a guide for it on the Build Hub. EP.

OH wait.. I have that on me

[cerulean smelt]

check the pins in the upper right hand corner for spreadsheet and builds hub?

[signal frigate]

Should I make a support tank build or the crowd control cant decide

I already have a dps build so what would be better

[solar sable]

get both, why not?

[signal frigate]

Well i would but which should I prioritize 1st

[subtle bluff]

Gave you the Support CC build already

[solar sable]

both are group orientated so.. I would go CC for my DPS/HHF teammates

[sweet moon]

I completely forgot to check here. Big Alejandro build is just use Tipping Scales, right?

[solar sable]

it seems ideal, yeah

[sweet moon]

Overdogs and a second piece of your own choosing

The Pestilence to Bluescreen to Big Alejandro timeline is fun. Perhaps I am just a brainless ape, but still. So long as I'm not dying

[solar sable]

I go PGC bc... I've mained PGC since I switched to PC

[sweet moon]

You use The Sacrifice because it gives you more damage, I use The Sacrifice because I am overconfident. You're better than me

Although.... Could I use the Tipping Scales chest and Salvo for 10% more fire rate or would that be negligible at that point?

(I am not able to test this at current)

[cerulean smelt]

think the chest is bunk. kind of like using striker chest

[sweet moon]

Appreciated. Perfect Glass Cannon is the way to go in so many words (or Equalizer, but that would mean I believe in myself less)

Well. I know what I'm gonna do later

[signal frigate]

So this is a cc build

[frozen hull]

Came here just to ask this .. to see if it was worth ditching my hana chest which with the force multiplier hana back pack I got both skill haste and skill damage … was it worth giving up the skill haste for the perfect version .. looks like it is .. nice !!

[cerulean smelt]

it's a form of it 😹

[cerulean smelt]

you tried the new wyvern named chest yet?

[frozen hull]

Yeah that’s what I came to ask about searched to see if they discussed and looks like it’s worth it

[subtle bluff]

I think striker is better still. TS BP is pretty good..

[frozen hull]

I just got that hana u cheat a month ago after months of trying to get it haha looks like it’s being replaced

[cerulean smelt]

that sucks, but good to know about that Impetus chest though 🤔

my first one dropped with haste on it. second status effects 😹

[frozen hull]

Yeah and I was lucky enough to get one with skill damage so I just changed the other to skill haste and I’m good

[cerulean smelt]

glad someone mentioned the 50 extra stash space on the pass bundle 😹 500 stash space is nice!

[frozen hull]

Yeah I thought the bundle this time I usually don’t but the 50 spots was too good to pass up

[cerulean smelt]

hmm, guess i'll have to use a 2nd charater to make a skill build with impetus

only skill builds i have are, EP, mortar and a hybrid skill weapon damage build 😹

[signal frigate]

Can someone educate me

[subtle bluff]

on?

[signal frigate]

Why are youtube builds considered terrible

[subtle bluff]

They are.. clickbait more than anything

[cerulean smelt]

they regurgitate what we say here but put their own personal twist to it

[signal frigate]

Aaaag

[solar sable]

sorry for the flashbang dark mode users

[cerulean smelt]

say the famous Striker Backfire with Yaahl to mitigate the bleeding from it.
people here say it's not needed at all, youtubers swear the 1 yaahl does a lot for it

[frozen hull]

😡

[solar sable]

im sorry 😭

[frozen hull]

lol

[smoky latch]

Hahahahahhahahaah

[signal frigate]

So is there like really any youtubers that give good builds then I assume no

[cerulean smelt]

Ikia?

[signal frigate]

I just find it funny this the 1st community i seen this with

[frozen hull]

when I first started out I used a builds from the gamingbrigade on YouTube and it helped me out cause I was having damage and survivability issues … he explained things nicely … once I found the spread sheets here tho it just elevated my damage a lot more … also a lot of YouTubers want to show you their armor gear is at level 30 or whatever the max is at the time of the video .. without telling you that it’s not really necessary to max out your armor pieces … just your weapons

[subtle bluff]

There's only a very few YouTuber that have good info

[shy willow]

👀 💥

[cerulean smelt]

i feel ikia is one of the better ones
i do like roguegold for the stuff he pushes out too

NGN is the lore god at this point 😹

[hazy steeple]

It's honestly best not to see any single person as the only choice for something.

[livid sorrel]

ikia is nice if you can stand big excel sheets

[cerulean smelt]

have you found other streamers doing lore though? i've only seen NGN. Ikia is more for the peeps here who do spreadsheets
but i agree. i tend to not look for a single person for most things division 2

[cerulean smelt]

even nice if you want to see how things work without the sheets

for instance i foresee a spreadsheet on Harrier, Impetus and gear shift in the future

[frozen haven]

Ikia is a master in the sheets

[cerulean smelt]

phrasing can be mistaken in so many ways here 😹

[hazy steeple]

RogueGold actually did some lore stuff during NGN's break, but yeah inflating egos never goes well.

NGN himself would very much agree with that.

[runic rapids]

this is better right?>

[cerulean smelt]

replied to the wrong person?

personally i'd probably go the impetus, 2 hana-U and 3 Empress 🤔

[runic rapids]

yeah better right?

[cerulean smelt]

like i'd probably take this. add chance, get 2 hana-U with chance or damage on the 2 pieces, then the 3 empress, chance or damage on it, backpack is going to be a pain to farm up

i forget, what was shiny monkey's spiel?

[hazy steeple]

15% Skill Duration 5% Skill Efficiency 52% Repair Skills

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, went to the sheet and looked it up 😹

[subtle bluff]

Glass Cannon does way more

[drowsy plaza]

lmkk

[cerulean smelt]

still works, but people are on the Overdogs gloves bandwagon

[drowsy plaza]

what attributes am i going for on it

[hoary raptor]

What’s best build for this current ambush event? Something that’ll clear heroic missions easily so I can grind SHD 1000

[karmic zodiac]

What type of build would big Alejandro be good for?

[solar sable]

TS and Strikers

[solar sable]

Hotdogs

Plus missions are not a good method for XP farming

[cerulean smelt]

Priority Objectives Strongholds gives the best seasonal xp and spamming those

[karmic zodiac]

I decided to run TS

[slate wedge]

@subtle bluff does anybody have the Base Burst DPS for Big Al yet? seems really promising from what can tell

[subtle bluff]

I haven't sat down with it.

[cerulean smelt]

shudders oh yeah, gear shift + TS is fun as hell 😹

[frail halo]

Wow that hotshot build is broken good lord 20-40million damage

And every shot is almost always a one hit like damn. Finally got a chest and backpack with the right talents not the same brand as in the image on the spreadsheet but man it works

[subtle bluff]

Yup

[buoyant perch]

27% total skill damage, slightly less than perfect glass 30%, better than regular glass 25%

[subtle bluff]

AMP all output DMG.

[buoyant perch]

She knows that already

[subtle bluff]

fair

[buoyant perch]

From a support/healing perspective, p.glass is 2.4% better if the user doesn't die

[hushed forge]

where can i see this build?

[subtle bluff]

Build Hub, or search here for "Hotdog"

[raw forge]

Is this good?

[flint arch]

it's the backpack for solo'ing

[raw forge]

oh nice

I want to opimise my gear but Im missing this purple resource at the bottom, can you tell me what this is

I have been doing a few countdown runs to get max weapon dmg and max crit chance on my pieces

[flint arch]

that's recalibration, optimization is a separate thing, also that's printer filament

[raw forge]

ahh i see

[flint arch]

you get it from dismantling gear/skill mods

[raw forge]

so for getting the max out pieces, should I farm max ones in the wild or should I recal and optimize?

I just got max weapon dmg and crit for the pieces in my library

so I can put it on, but this system is a lot to take in

[flint arch]

if it's something like a gear set, farm it, you just need to make sure at least 1 of the stats is max

[raw forge]

gotcha

[flint arch]

if it's a high-end item, it becomes more difficult since they have 3 stats

you can optimize, but it's not worth it to do it more than 2 times

if you're really far away from maxing out the stat, you're better off finding a new piece to get a better starting point

high end chest and backpack is where the real pain is at

[raw forge]

dude lets go youre a legend I got my first max stats piece!

striker gloves

[flint arch]

since they have 3 stats and a talent

[raw forge]

Yea I think if I wanna amx out the handling on this its gonna be a pain I guess

[flint arch]

why do you need weapon handling

[raw forge]

also I hope recalibrating this was worth it friend told to throw it on

[raw forge]

no need?

[flint arch]

if you're running your 500000th variation of a crit dps, you get chc and chd on everything

only time you want weapon handling is if you're using sniper builds, which prioritize headshot damage over crit

[raw forge]

gotcha

so I can leave that chest piece as it is?

[flint arch]

did you recal it already

[raw forge]

yes I did yesterday, recalled the weapon dmg

[flint arch]

i would just ditch it and find another

[raw forge]

ok, what am I looking for on it?

[flint arch]

chc and chd

[raw forge]

ok

so out of weapon dmg, chc and chd I want 2 out of 3 to be maxed

so I can recal the last one and have a max piece

[frail halo]

Get it from dismantling gear/skill mods

[burnt bone]

It’s usually not worth recalibrating the core attribute

Because 1) the minor attributes are rng while core isn’t and 2) it gives you more flexibility with future builds

[junior lagoon]

I dont understand how impetus beats hana-u chest in refactor. Hana u gives 10 percent damage and 10 perxent haste impetus gives only 8 percent damage and 3 more stacks with perfect kinetic momentum vs normal

Maybe people forget force multiplier is also hana u

[shy willow]

4.5 percent TSD is more valuable than 2 percent skill damage

Ideally though you run neither and just use glass cannon or the refactor chest

[smoky latch]

Don't forget about Empathic Resolve as a choice

[woeful zodiac]

Is the Big Alejandro good with the Harrier Pride or with the Nimble Holster

[signal frigate]

Im not gonna lie

The skill build is calling to me genuinely looks worth using in group and solo

And I like turrents so yeah

[vernal wing]

I have been playing Refactor with Artillery Turret and Striker Drone. My teammates and I rarely go down.

[knotty flicker]

Does anyone know how to get the over dog gloves? I look online but im not having much luck

[signal frigate]

Ah I wasnt sure if people used surprised people dont use it a lot

[vernal wing]

Nah I’m a skill tier 6 weirdo

[signal frigate]

Ah okay

[vernal wing]

We got them(and the blueprint) to drop via target farming gloves in retaliation

[knotty flicker]

Ok I can you clarify something for me. How to do i target farm in activities? Like I know of the increase drop in the loot pool that changes, but how can I do activities like the summit or descent with targeted loot?

[vernal wing]

When you are selecting the activity from map, Hold “H” key and then select the type of gear or weapon or set. The easiest ways are usually countdown (playlist activity at the top right of map) or retaliation.

[knotty flicker]

Thank you so much

I have been trying to farm on the rotating loot pool on the map and it has been brutal

[junior lagoon]

tech support or perfect combined arms ?

[junior lagoon]

where is the 4.5 percent tsd?

[shy willow]

You say perfect kinetic gives 3 more max stacks no?

[digital orchid]

lmfao, u dont know what u r talking about. for some missions dps is essential for mission success, for some tank, for some skill builds, for some each player's build matters. I wasnt guessing when I made that comment. It came from legendary experience. its a no brainer to have a tank in the last fight of legendary tidal basin, as an example. to me mission success automatically includes being efficient.

[junior lagoon]

ah ok, but that is conditional, no?

[vernal wing]

I’m running waveform with the Refactor Bag/Chest and Wyvern knees

[onyx sage]

not really, it's the same conditions as normal KM

for turret and drone, these meet the conditions pretty easily, just have to be deployed for long enough

[junior lagoon]

ok then

[woeful zodiac]

?

[versed summit]

I never taken a tank on tidal boss...

You really only need a tank for iron horsr

[onyx sage]

total skill damage is basically a "rare" multiplier, besides glass cannon having more of it is good

[signal frigate]

Question is refactor meta or nah its a niche build

[onyx sage]

it's like a casual support build but it's not super necessary

[solar sable]

def not meta but acts as a support "medic" maybe

[versed summit]

Its an easy to play support build, but if you can utilize future initiative well, it will perform better than refactor

[onyx sage]

3p refactor is used in some builds though, but that's not what most people do

[junior lagoon]

it is good for new players imho. if you are playing challening and below, you can solo everyhting with that

[shy willow]

Wh-

[onyx sage]

refactor oxi is a skill damage% upgrade over empress if you don't need skill haste for example

[signal frigate]

Whats future intiative

[shy willow]

Ahh oxi makes sense

[livid bridge]

high end builds with ninjabike, viable? ive got one currently where i basically have 3.4 million armor with unbreakable, 500k armor on kill and a lot of damage, 60% crit chance and 132% crit damage

[solar sable]

yeah, I mean look at @runic rapids going insane with her Refactor build lol

[junior lagoon]

i used it in heroic army terminal for example, my turret killed the marauder very quickly, where in striker build i was failing

[versed summit]

Best healer gearset

[shy willow]

I doubt it

[solar sable]

Ninjabike basically nerfs your entire build

[onyx sage]

it's always viable, it's just not the best

[signal frigate]

How does it work

[livid bridge]

how? it unlocks 2nd slot for all my pieces on high end

[onyx sage]

buffs anyone in your team who has full armor to deal more damage, and it heals more for clumped groups of agents

[livid sorrel]

It's not worth losing a backpack talent

[onyx sage]

but you lose out on a good backpack talent, don't underestimate backpack talent

[signal frigate]

So basically refactor isn't really needed its easy to use but its not the best

[onyx sage]

yes

[signal frigate]

I was just gonna copy the skill dps I feel like its I would have a great time with that

[livid bridge]

i mean true, if your wanting to invest in a mainline set piece and go 2 pieces of 2 sets or so otherwise if i want 1 of 5 different sets it does work, why i like the ninjabike especially for pvp

[signal frigate]

On the Everett website

[onyx sage]

well yeah it works there

cuz in pvp you don't have as many viable backpack talents unlike pve

[livid bridge]

very true and yeah i should have said, this is a dark zone only build/pvp build lol

[onyx sage]

we assume pve is the default topic cuz it's what most people play so... if pvp is the focus you should mention that

[shy willow]

If you opened with that nobody would question it😭

[junior lagoon]

umbra ninja bike pretty good.

[onyx sage]

tbf this doesn't mention pvp anywhere

[signal frigate]

The skill dps build is versatile right in solo and group ?

[livid bridge]

yeah lesson learned, will open with that enxt time and i know it doesnt lol, thats my bad

[onyx sage]

also might want to check in #td2-pvp-discussions as well. most pvp folks hang there instead of here

[livid sorrel]

i remember seeing a ninjabike mmr build in the sheet, but it's gone lmao

[onyx sage]

we had it but removed it because it's not suitable to be put in a "beginner's guide" basically

[shy willow]

Headhunter maffs too hard

[vernal wing]

It’s a comfort pick.

“I want to do legendary content with my friend but we keep dying.”

If you have a 4 or 8 player activity, striker will do more damage and future initiative will do more healing

[onyx sage]

yeah, comfort pick was the word i tried to remember

[solar sable]

it's basically this

[livid sorrel]

Where does "it would be funny" fall

[solar sable]

*Anything else?"

"I don't believe you."

[livid sorrel]

5 different gear set pieces and ninjabike

[quartz yoke]

@undone quartz

[solar sable]

I love the part where it goes "Refactor?" "Yes" "PLEASE DON'T"

[quartz yoke]

I did have mantis on this at first, I'm just trying out the shroud on this - may help with NPC's where I deal with them.

[undone quartz]

Ingot a feelig thats what i run. I use a bolt action snip tho (forgot the name)

[quartz yoke]

Exotic or Named?

I'll probably try out White Death at some point, mainly just for the 137% headshot damage.

[undone quartz]

Ans the exotic as secondary

[quartz yoke]

Fair. Meant the sniper rifle you're using tho.

[undone quartz]

Im pretty sure it wasnt named or exotic, was a standard high end. Sec lemme see if i van find it online

[quartz yoke]

Ah.

[undone quartz]

So one thing fot sure, i use determined on thr sniper

I think the wep was model 700

[versed summit]

White death is really the best option.

[quartz yoke]

Fair. High damage.

[undone quartz]

And the item that took me so long to grind for was either backpack or chest , to get perfect stats so i cud reroll core. Think the gift?

Ye pretty sure was the backpack

All i know is, it was so broken that i wud be shocked if it wasnt nerfed yet

U jus got to kill an npc to the head, and a bodyshot wud 100% one tap someone

[quartz yoke]

Jesus.

[livid sorrel]

Good ol determined

[undone quartz]

Was it nerfed later on

[livid sorrel]

No it still works

[undone quartz]

🤣

Ye defo doing it today when im home lmao

[flint arch]

determined is the most brainrot option for people with bad aim

(I'm one of them)

[signal frigate]

Does anyone have a really strong refactor build ?

[undone quartz]

Yup

Altho the reactions in proximity chat are too good to miss

[smoky latch]

https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/18s3Gr5fZ3DvuA55xeBSyc_2SIusmfMULotivkSfs4xQ/edit

Empathic Resolve on the chest is pretty good too in group play. Maybe the new named Wyvern chest and a Shiny Monkey bag or so are good combo too. Haven't heard anything yet

[signal frigate]

Thank you do you think this build is good for group and solo or just group

[smoky latch]

If your team goes down a lot use the RF chest and swap another RF piece to Hana-U

To keep the 2pcs bonus from Hana-U (10% SH, 10% SD)

[smoky latch]

The one I directly linked works for both, definitely good for solo play

[signal frigate]

Ah I see

Cause im debating if I should work on making refactor or just pure skill dps build

[burnt bone]

I’m farming refractor pieces for my first skill damage build rn, trying to get yellow attribute is a pain haha. I don’t have a yellow sacrifice, would it be worth rocking the new wyvern chest + a Hana u bag? Or do you really want the 2p Hana bonus for it to be worth

[smoky latch]

What do you mean by "skill dps build"?

Do you mean high end skill damage build or a hybrid build?

[signal frigate]

This one on the Evernote website

Legendary skill dps

[smoky latch]

How old is that...

Maybe it was made before Empress International came out; either way, don't follow that one 😄

If you want a high-end turret drone build you could use 3pcs Empress, 2pcs Hana-U, 1pc Wyvern

But AFAIK the difference between that and a Refactor build is not huge; so you might as well run a Refactor build to keep yourself alive better

[burnt bone]

Is combined arms an ok replacement for tech support 👀

[smoky latch]

Yes, in fact, most ppl advise you to use Perfect Combines Arms. But I also prefer Tech Support

[signal frigate]

Can I see that buikd

[smoky latch]

Which one?

[signal frigate]

Pure dps

High end

[smoky latch]

Ahh

[signal frigate]

If you got a pic of it

[smoky latch]

Yeah on it, had to change characters

[signal frigate]

Thank you

[smoky latch]

I scraped this together rq.

Use the new named Wyvern chest instead tho, I don't have it on this character.

• Main attribute Skill Damage, secondary attribute Skill Haste or some Skill Duration mods if you want
• Capacitor as main weapon, Harmony as secondary. Pistol can be whatever
• The backpack can be the named Hana-U backpack with Perfect Combined Arms if you want a little more damage and engaging gameplay

[burnt bone]

I’m thinking 4p refractor with new wyvern chest and perfect combined arms 🤔

[smoky latch]

Sure, why not

[mint brook]

Any good places for leveling builds?

[solar sable]

you mean optimizing?

[mint brook]

Well just builds in general for skills etc. Restarted after years not playing and on pc now.

[coral reef]

have you guys been getting emotes with the anniversary crates? Just got the best i've ever seen (air dancer)

oh dang talk about wrong place to ask, sorry

[ebon lantern]

Is there a good set you gus would recommend going after? Still using the lvl 35 skill set

[smoky latch]

A good set for what purpose?

[solar sable]

Lvl40 Starters Guide

[ebon lantern]

Going to higher difficulties. As of right now I'm doing hard but want to get things rolling

[smoky latch]

The linked starter guide is a good start

[ebon lantern]

Lol the timing was crazy lol

[runic rapids]

That has been my problem I do tend to die with perfect glass.

[rich cosmos]

How do we all feel about Harrier

[subtle bluff]

Better positioning and just gameplay.

[solar sable]

I mean... the switching is unnecessary

[rich cosmos]

I feel like if it didn’t swap it would potentially be too strong

Personally my issue is theres nothing for skills

Kinda makes the skill tier on it a little worthless

[solar sable]

I thought they were cooking with Harrier and they just shit on it with the swapping

[smoky latch]

I got three Alejandros and no Harrier... Guess season pass it is

[burnt bone]

So I’m trying refactor and I had a question about gun usage, it looks like capacitor loses its stacks when I swap weapons. So is there no point I trying to balance between capacitor and harmony? Can I not have both buffs active at the same time?

[hazy steeple]

Has anyone been able to farm Harrier via TL yet?

I know Impetus is in there.

[smoky latch]

You might run out of ammo, so using Harmony is a top choice

Perfect In Sync and a different weapon type

[rich cosmos]

Why not lower the percentages and remove the swapping

[wide mason]

Is salvo holster a good combo with Alejandro, tipping scales and overdogs?

[smoky latch]

No because the TS chest isn't useful for most situations

Run Equalizer or Sacrifice as chest piece for instance

[wide mason]

Alright thx

[smoky latch]

Also the Alejandro comes with 1100 base RPM or so - which is pretty rapid

[wide mason]

True it’s pretty good

[copper yarrow]

Can we farm Alejandro and harrier with TL?

[solar sable]

no

at least not yet AFAIK

[copper yarrow]

Oof okay

[dense flume]

Best sniper cross assault rifle build

If anyone has any tips

[solar sable]

Hotdogs

[dense flume]

I'm currently running aces for 8s

[solar sable]

either this or 1886, 2pc Breaking Point, Chainkiller & Gift or 2pc Zwia and Foxes

[dense flume]

Ty

[jolly sapphire]

Headshot DMG focus

1 tap heroic diff

40 mil dmg

[rich cosmos]

Also like, wouldn’t harrier still at worst make for good blue and red core builds?

[dense flume]

Ty I will save that

[jolly sapphire]

old build but works like its new

[jolly sapphire]

good for legendary lowk

[rich cosmos]

Like wouldn’t it be good on heartbreaker

[jolly sapphire]

are you making a pvp or pve build

[rich cosmos]

Im talking about harrier in general

[jolly sapphire]

harriers good for pvp

pve its js a waste unless its summit with med direv

[rich cosmos]

Still I feel like it makes blue core builds more interesting

[jolly sapphire]

I rarely see blue cores anywhere unless its dz lol

[rich cosmos]

would it not be really good on heartbreaker

[jolly sapphire]

blue core build on hb with harrier. Genuinely a waste

[rich cosmos]

Hb is a blue core themed gearset

[jolly sapphire]

yeah so no need for extra bc

if anything id go 4R 2B

or 5050 if you really want balance

[rich cosmos]

I just don’t really see how its a bad option

[jolly sapphire]

depends on the activity

[subtle bluff]

You're not doing 40 mill with that build.

[solar sable]

COMPOSURE?!

[subtle bluff]

With GE....

[burnt dock]

What build are people running, With the regulus and the pulse?forthe crazy damage

[smoky latch]

Don't think Composure is the real issue, more like the blue core and a brand that does nothing for MMR/HSD

NGL I raised my eyebrow seeing that :p

[vapid kiln]

Bit confused atm, my headshot damage is only showing 56% but if I add everything up on my weapon and gear its way more then that

[solar sable]

Achilles pulse is used for very specific encounters, it's not an all rounder

these are three builds that use Regulus

[burnt dock]

Have you got a pic of the build ? I finally got the regulus and wanna try all the builds

[burnt dock]

Legend

[onyx sage]

are these good bills?

[serene flare]

Can I quick ask, what's the attribute on your Everlasting Gaze? Do you have targets out of cover, or damage to armor?

[smoky latch]

DTOC

[serene flare]

gocha gocha, thanks

[thin pine]

is a suport or healer build viable? or just better off going dps

[dense flume]

Can you dm me the armor list please ty so much

[smoky latch]

Full healer is valid but most of the times got replaced by Refactor builds

[smoky latch]

Don't follow that build pls

[thin pine]

like turret/striker refractor?

[jolly sapphire]

big dog ive been doing 30-40

[smoky latch]

Yes

[solar sable]

with the ongoing Global Event...

[subtle bluff]

Ya ya with GE.

[smoky latch]

Check these builds, comes with valuable info

[jolly sapphire]

been doing it without world activities man

😔

[solar sable]

yeah sure, 40mil without overdogs seems like GE is active

[subtle bluff]

It's ok. They still don't do this much.

[jolly sapphire]

is this passive agression

[subtle bluff]

I should update this gif with the GE.

[jolly sapphire]

oookay..?

sorry not sorry bud

[smoky latch]

What attributes are on that backpack? Assuming the rest is headshot damage?

[subtle bluff]

No. Kind of it's more that you've scratched the surface of the build but don't have the understanding about that.

[sweet moon]

Would it be worth going all the way to 60% CC with Tipping Scales or should I deal with 56% and get a different 3rd perk on Big Al?

[subtle bluff]

TS should alway cap CHC.

[jolly sapphire]

wouldve been nice to say this before throwing your all

[subtle bluff]

I context forgot about the GE

[sweet moon]

Alright. So get the 60%. Time to grind until I can get the BP

[smoky latch]

First time I tested on a character the event was enabled. These numbers are with GE disabled

[solar sable]

knew it

[smoky latch]

I wasn't sure how far off 40mil was so I wanted to test it rq

[mint axle]

That blue core there is on my nerves...

[smoky latch]

Was surprised for a moment when I got 40mil lol

[smoky latch]

Was just a test, don't use that lol

[subtle bluff]

GE makes it too easy.

[zenith granite]

Someone have any advice? Wanted to build a LMG Build, but it doesnt feel very good..
What would you change?

[jolly sapphire]

what are those gloves?

[solar sable]

Overdogs

[jolly sapphire]

whats the perk

[solar sable]

quit Turmoil and use Equalizer/Sacrifice/Ceska Glass

[jolly sapphire]

is it worth getting

[solar sable]

it's "meta"

[jolly sapphire]

can I show you my loadouts

[versed summit]

Turmoil is not very helpful. Try an obliterate chest and tipping scales knees

[jolly sapphire]

they are really outdated you can say...

ive no idea whats meta now

[zenith granite]

I will try, thanks 🙂

[vernal wing]

Good build to synergize with Perfect Boomerang?

[cerulean smelt]

why perfect? why not normal bommerang then use tinkerer to add another talent to it? 🤔

[vernal wing]

Any recommendation to add? And what gearset or just high end?

[versed summit]

Perfect boomerang is kind of mid since its on the 1886. Its really a single shot damage weapon, not a DPS weapon, so it doesn't synergize with critical.

[cerulean smelt]

personally i prefer highend, but if you want gearset i'm not the person to ask 😹

[versed summit]

Nego or technically OD are probably the best headsets for that.

[cerulean smelt]

oh? thougth breaking point would've been mentioned. considering it's a rifle gearset

[junior lagoon]

Frenzied GR9 or Gearshift ?

[versed summit]

It sucks

[versed summit]

Different weapons for different uses

[junior lagoon]

against heavily armored hostiles

[cerulean smelt]

i'd mention build you're using it. as just against heavily armored hostiles could get "why GR9? with frenzy when you can X"

[versed summit]

Frenzy will do a substantial amount more damage provided you have a tanky enough target yes.

[junior lagoon]

i am using gr9 in my striker build as a secondary wepaon to st elmo

especailly great in retals when defending the cp

[versed summit]

Its a solid choice, just make sure the uptime ends on your reload to maximize effectiveness.

[versed summit]

If you have a target rich environment it's nuts.

[junior lagoon]

yeah when i have the high ground and they spawn far away and run to me

[crimson zephyr]

Has anyone come up with a good build for the Big Alejandro?

I've used it with my standard Striker DPS but I wanna try something different

[cerulean smelt]

if you search for that in this server you might find a few people used it in some fashion. in another server i heard people paired it with Turmoil knees 😹
i honestly would've tried it myself had i've gotten one but still no luck

only other build i can think of using it in is Tipping Scales honestly 🤔

[crimson zephyr]

Yeah you're probably right I’ll have to keep experimenting with it

[cerulean smelt]

think it was here, someone mentioned Pestilience being pretty strong with global event making the ticks really OP 😹 never thought of it honestly, but i might have to give it a try. been busy trying to knock out the journey and seasonal objectives which doesn't utilize the pestilience

[patent fossil]

Yeah I was doing the daily mission with random matchmaking yesterday and the other three players were all running pestilence, figured it must be getting a buff from the event

[cerulean smelt]

nods the stationary buff. however much that is but i'll get around to it eventually

[hushed forge]

Are there any OP builds at the moment? Something thats deals huge damage in one hit

[cerulean smelt]

2 comes to mind. hotshot determiend with chainkiller and i run a Harvest chainkiller pistol build 😹 also with determined

but you hit things with a helmet or a warhound/tank/skill you lose your chainkiller stacks 😹 because "no heads" so you build it up from scratch again

[hushed forge]

I saw someone using a shotgun build that had crazy damage but dont know what that was

Maybe a sheriff shotgun

[cerulean smelt]

usually a shotgun build is tied to Hunter's Fury

[onyx sage]

this one?

[solar sable]

it's hard to tell if you didn't pay attention or inspected that guy's loadout tbh

[hushed forge]

Thats how long it took him to kill things but he seemed to do it at range too

[vernal wing]

The sitting still damage buff?

[silent storm]

1886 then

[hushed forge]

Oh

[onyx sage]

if you're sure it's a shotgun then it's sheriff at that range but it's just worse than 1886 at that range imo

1886 is a rifle tho

[cerulean smelt]

Ambush Global Event. if you stay still enough to get a cougar icon you get weapon damage buffed as long as you stay still in that spot

[silent storm]

We sure it was a SG?

1886 is single shot

[vernal wing]

Any idea where GE is active/not active? Or literally everywhere?

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, they said shotgun so best we can guess is Sheriff

see that cougar head icon? that's ambush

[onyx sage]

esc > seasons > ambush

[cerulean smelt]

if you want to activate it or deactivate it. maybe joining someone elses game activates it for you

107 stars?! wtf? i got some spending to do apparently 😹

here's an agent with it on i believe

[hushed forge]

Maybe they were switching guns. Since I saw them just push heroic opponents with semi auto shotgun

[onyx sage]

1886 can go to legendary as well, spas and m870 are also good shotguns for legendary

m870 is what i used in the clip above

[solar berry]

Maxed out blue bar from ambush shows that icon

Icon means you have dmg buff active

As soon you take a step, you instantly lose it. Then you have to stay put to gain it back

[cerulean smelt]

i know, took me a bit to figure out this Global Event. dont' recall it from Div 1 though 😹

[wispy hollow]

It was me. When Ambush bar is full you get 200% all damage increase (weapon, skill, status, pesti ticks)

Lengmo Pesti build was my go to every season but its nutty atm

[cerulean smelt]

that's what i'm trying it on now. i can't get full stacks 😹

[wispy hollow]

I was using it on bounties and was focussing on Chungas/Dogs (depending on the faction)

Even your regular skill build or status effect build (Eclipse Flame) are all doing great

[cerulean smelt]

GAH DAMN!

[signal frigate]

Wondering whats ya opinion on this refactor build just wandering

[cerulean smelt]

<-personally not a fan of refactor, but hopefully someone will give you advice

[smoky latch]

Using Birdie's 100% of the time is wasted potential 95% of the time, imo. You can hot swap if you need

[signal frigate]

Ah fair

[left zenith]

hi ya'll,
anyone know if i can still farm for the Birdie's quick fix backpack now days?

[smoky latch]

Roosevelt Island Kelso manhunt, yes

[signal frigate]

Im making this build that someone here showed me

[signal frigate]

I like skill builds so yeah

[cerulean smelt]

think up above here Rowdy showed a picture of a refactor build he runs with

[subtle bluff]

That’s the “normal” way of running refactor.

[cerulean smelt]

oh community
#ask-td2-community message

[subtle bluff]

That’s from iKia.

[signal frigate]

So the build i showed is calm right ?

[subtle bluff]

I just don’t like the wasted Mod Slot

calm?

[signal frigate]

Good i mean

Not the birdie one the other one i showed

[subtle bluff]

It’s good.

I just have different way of looking at Refactor

[signal frigate]

Tell me

[subtle bluff]

My first main was Turret/Drone

I posted it above, my mini guide

[signal frigate]

I like skill builds a lot so ill definitely check yours out

I have a dps build but I want to genuinely get into skill builds

[cerulean smelt]

<- someone took me under his wing and showed me the ways of the weapons. used to love skill builds myself 😹

work in progress. damn unicorns 😹 this is a hybrid skill and weapon damage build i'm working on. was going at it but kind of started to feel burnt out so i'm just taking my time on it now. if i get those 2 last pieces i'll be happy with the build

[signal frigate]

I get that but im lazy so if stuff can do stuff for me sign me uo

[wispy hollow]

I run this build when solo. When in group I run the exact same setup but change chest talent to Emphatic Resolve

[runic rapids]

wait how do you have 150/50 ammo on tech?

[cerulean smelt]

probably because of this?

[runic rapids]

ahhh i was so confused and kinda jealous. my tech launcher only has 6/6

[cerulean smelt]

i don't have that build on currently, trying the lengmo Pestilience with Ambush Global Event

[wispy hollow]

Why no Overdogs ???

[cerulean smelt]

if you notice the icon over the build i pictured. all 8 pieces are in the stash

[cerulean smelt]

<- too lazy to worry about tiers

[wispy hollow]

You dont have to, your ticks bouncing around will get the benefit

[wispy hollow]

I am running very similar build but with 3 empress instead of 3 palisade.

[cerulean smelt]

i'm trying to satiate my curiosity if Capacitor cares where skill tiers come from. so i went palisades + arcabuz to fill in to get upto 6 skill tiers but have 4 weapon cores would be ideal

[hexed steppe]

it doesnt care

[cerulean smelt]

so i could have a capacitor doing 10 weapon core of damage? 😻

[wispy hollow]

Makes sense. I usually run this solo. When in group, I always either fall back to Refactor or my original fav (Will need to swap chest and holster now because of named Wyvern chest)

[hexed steppe]

you need some crit stats if youre gonna bother with memento, otherwise its just a nerf... as opposed to a skill talent bag ofc. and need glass

[serene flare]

can someone help me figure out the Eclipse Protocol Overdogs setup?

[cerulean smelt]

i was honestly thinking of doing 2 hana-u and 2 shiney monkey with the impetus

[wispy hollow]

Wasnt going for hybrid. But more of a skill dmg but tanky build (even got 3x PFE equipped)

[cerulean smelt]

i can't as i wouldn't use overdogs in it

[hexed steppe]

no, youll have a capacitor with 7 damage cores. 7.5wd per skill tier

[serene flare]

as in, what parts need to go into it, mods ats

[crisp bluff]

try this

[cerulean smelt]

until they give us something better than vile, this is what i stick to

[hexed steppe]

easy. use overdogs gloves and tech class on an otherwise normal eclipse fire setup

[serene flare]

I was told multiple times that Overdogs enables 1 million damage tics

[crisp bluff]

also this one is a good DPS

[crisp bluff]

I'm kind of tired about the capacitor

[wispy hollow]

Striker chest and Turmoil ????

[hexed steppe]

i would only use turmoil if you were going high capacity weapon like bullet king

[serene flare]

sadly my Snow Machine doesn't have Skill Damage on it

[hexed steppe]

its not optional when using fire eclipse if you want to hit max damage. fire can dip into status and skill damage

[hexed steppe]

any eletrique piece works , it can either be holster, mask, or knee

[cerulean smelt]

what about Big Al, another discord swears it's OP 🤔

[hexed steppe]

i havent even logged this season

[serene flare]

I got lucky that my original Electrique gloves came with a perfect Skill Damage roll lol
made making the SE and SD setup easy

[crisp bluff]

Overdogs gloves are a must in lots of builds

[cerulean smelt]

i do fine without them honestly

[hexed steppe]

all roads lead to overdogs

[serene flare]

as are a pair of cosmetic gloves to put over them lmao
they look so stupid

[subtle bluff]

Woah I stepped awhile for a min..

[crisp bluff]

to go back to pestilence, this one is awesome

[subtle bluff]

O.0

Stop exp your gear

[crisp bluff]

lol

[subtle bluff]

At least past 12 don’t waste exo on gear exp

I’m not joking…

[hexed steppe]

no glass 😔

[subtle bluff]

No glass no overdogs

[cerulean smelt]

no no, let them waste them exotics 😹 then they can come back to us and be like "where can i get components fast?"

[crisp bluff]

I'm glass player as I not that good, so I died a lot with glass

[subtle bluff]

Ok… Then that would be semi toxic of me

[crisp bluff]

your POV

[subtle bluff]

God… I need to upload all of my showcases to discord..

To note this is meta without GC.

[crisp bluff]

I've got plenty of components, that's the least of my concerns

[subtle bluff]

Trust you’ll go thru them.

I’ve spend over 1000 in the this past year without using any on gear.

I’m at 180 ish left now.

[cerulean smelt]

ah, exploited have we 😹

[serene flare]

weird, it seems like my damage has gone down when I 'm using Overdogs

[subtle bluff]

where are you testing this?

[serene flare]

just regular open world

[subtle bluff]

What was the build?

[serene flare]

my kill potential with EP has gone way down, the chaining seems to stop much earlier

[hexed steppe]

you guys are so lucky it isnt the old expertise costs. i remember spending 130ish exo on single weapons/skills and that was nowhere near exp30

[cerulean smelt]

because you're not using technician, you're missing 1 skill tier

[hexed steppe]

would been closer to 235 for level 30 upgrades, compared to what 90ish components now

[serene flare]

I'm using Kard custom

[smoky latch]

That's not how it works

[onyx sage]

you have to hold it for it to give you the tier

[hexed steppe]

you cant do that and succeed in hitting hhigh burn

[serene flare]

oh wait, yeah you're right

[subtle bluff]

So you’re losing DTA to Burn.

[shy willow]

Capacitor basically has to be on

[cerulean smelt]

so you main Kard Custom 😹

[serene flare]

I'm an idiot lmao

[subtle bluff]

LMAO…

[smoky latch]

Happens

[onyx sage]

no, ur drHarms

[hexed steppe]

youll also want haste mods

[subtle bluff]

GET HIM!!! Rawr!

[serene flare]

I think I'm just gonna keep using Vile lmao

[hexed steppe]

dont downgrade, youll regret

[onyx sage]

...xD? rawr xD?

[serene flare]

eh, it was killing everything just fine, even before the new event

[smoky latch]

"Several people are typing"

[subtle bluff]

Idk… it’s your fault.. Dealing with this learning mac thing…

[cerulean smelt]

i picture a cute anime girl doing a pose with claws and smiling "gao!" 😹

[hexed steppe]

heroic 4 man?

[serene flare]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

It can work on heroic

[hexed steppe]

is it still hitting the 550k range on the sticky?

[serene flare]

I would proc Perpetuation and throw a sticky down range and watch it demolish the entire attack wave lmao
and yeah it's easily hitting 550k

[last schooner]

can anyone recommend a Sheriff build? Is it still bugged?

[onyx sage]

the only realistic difference is you get slightly less haste on sticky and less charges on chem

[hexed steppe]

perpetuation is kinda not great for sustained burning, it wont affect the spread even if its procced. in sync more consistent, and capacitor even more so... at least your consistently hitting those sticky now 😉

[serene flare]

I thought Perpetuation snapshots the damage since it's what's being applied to the spreading status effect

[hexed steppe]

only on thhe actual skill application

[serene flare]

what about through the chem launcher?

[hexed steppe]

itll spread at that higher rate but iirc the talent has cooldown

[subtle bluff]

So you’d need to hit proc beforehand.

I just end up trying to use Future Prefect.

OC’ing the skill goes nuts

[serene flare]

it's one headshot, not hard to activate

[hexed steppe]

and spend the proc with your skill, either sticky or chem

[serene flare]

fire chem is so strong, but I really wish it had some QOL

I would take a damage nerf if it meant that it would instantly ignite if I nail an enemy with the projectile

[hexed steppe]

your qol is dead npc's

[serene flare]

Yeah, but I find that double tapping to ignite works like 70% of the time
there are so many times where I'm shooting one out and it goes off a full 3 seconds after I activate it lmao

[hexed steppe]

skill issue 🔥

hitting enemies firing will auto ignite them

[cerulean smelt]

just know there was a time you could hold like a plummet shot gun. the kill would refund your chem launcher i believe?

or pummel?

[serene flare]

the only other QOL would be to give the skill a new gun model
this mf looks so doofy with the foregrip that juts out lmao

[smoky latch]

I have a question:

Do you never confuse your skills by accident? Like pressing the wrong button by accident. Would 100% happen to me

[serene flare]

nope, I have a mouse with two buttons above the left and right click
those are mapped to the left and right skills on my HUD, no chance I misclick

everything I need from my emote wheel to armor kits fits on all of the mouse buttons here

[smoky latch]

Ah, was going by C and V since they're so easy to confuse when it gets heated since they're next to each other

[serene flare]

skills, grenades, inventory, map, auto-run, cover, climbing over cover

[smoky latch]

That mouse looks like it's missing some pieces, lol

[serene flare]

ahhh lol yeah, I have those two buttons next to my scrollwheel set to C and V, so whenever I start a new game I just bind whatever I find useful to those buttons

[smoky latch]

Gotcha, gotcha

What brand is that? I don't recognize

[serene flare]

is Swiftpoint, they're a small business that makes weird mice like this
also, the little spot below the left click is an OLED screen you can custom program lmao

[onyx sage]

nanomachines...

[smoky latch]

Lol

I'll check it out, never heard of that brand

[onyx sage]

i'm gonna need this tech...

[cerulean smelt]

next dien's stream. checking out the mouse and further increasing their hac-skills 😹

[serene flare]

it's a bit expensive, and they only ship when enough orders have been placed
took me a few months to get mine

[smoky latch]

Oh, that's a turnoff for me

[serene flare]

it's well worth it
using a mouse like this is like using a 120-144hz monitor for the first time
I don't know how I'll live without it

[subtle bluff]

How heavy is it?

[serene flare]

I don't remember off the top of my head, but it's got weighted inserts you can put in

[smoky latch]

Is that the Z2 or which one?

[serene flare]

Z2

[smoky latch]

117g w/o cable and weights

Bro, 320 CAD 😂😂😂 Ok I've seen enough

[cerulean smelt]

no no, you need to see more 😹

[subtle bluff]

I’ve seen mice like these. I’ve also looked the Total opposite of this…

[coral reef]

Yoooo Mr Chow just who I wanted to see

[cerulean smelt]

*holds back @coral reef * run chow run! 😹

[coral reef]

Whats up brother have you played around with the new backpack yet?

[serene flare]

like I said, expensive
but that's kinda the price you pay for really high quality
plus most of the parts are replaceable, so if something breaks or wears out you can just swap it out

[smoky latch]

You said it's "a bit expensive", quite the understatement 😂

Anyway, I don't wanna clog up the channel anymore

[serene flare]

CA shipping might up the cost, I think

[subtle bluff]

No… Need to get it. Need to find another reason to play..

GE turns me off..

[wispy hollow]

Then turn the GE off

[lost wren]

i'm primarily here for the 5x xp event to stock up on resources for optimization

[cerulean smelt]

nah, think mrchow experiencing some serious burnout 😹

[coral reef]

We cant lose Chow, I hope you find the spark to play again my man

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly don't know. maybe they're conserving their energy for Rise up as stated in the stream it's going to be a "challenge"

[serene flare]

I'm gonna be farming the whole anniversary event
the caches have been really good, far better than the stupid stretch goals ones lmao

[cerulean smelt]

that's your opinion but i'm sure people would beg to differ. especailly them still looking for say a lexington, turmoil for whatever reason and other things

[serene flare]

Ah yeah, that was the only good thing
the whole "oooo you can get Raid exotics" thing was total bullshit

[subtle bluff]

Can you?

[serene flare]

21 prestige caches and only one Dodge holster

[subtle bluff]

I haven’t gotten on enjoy to check much

[subtle bluff]

Yeah I will busy week too… Trust I will try them both out.

[cerulean smelt]

yes, it's like other global events

[subtle bluff]

Oh… so it’s a seasonal event.

[cerulean smelt]

whole month is a 1 week ambush, 1 week assault

[subtle bluff]

“Mini season”

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much to appease us until rise up no less 😹

[wispy hollow]

Yes from event menu like past GE's "Deactivate"

[last schooner]

are Alps and Shiny Monkey pieces required for a healer build? Or is it pure FI/Refractor?

[signal frigate]

Hey whats the fastest way to farm gear sets and exotics

[last schooner]

Countdown, Retaliation

[signal frigate]

Thank you what game mode when it was like 12 people
In it

[last schooner]

12? I thought countdown was 8?

[lost wren]

max of 8, during countdown and raids

[signal frigate]

My fault it probably is 8 I forgot

[lost wren]

it is 8

[last schooner]

Conflict? I don't play PvP

[lost wren]

but yeah, do countdown on challenging or retaliations on heroic
set targeted loot to whatever you're looking for

[cerulean smelt]

FI i think is the ideal healer build

[smoky latch]

The heals from HE healers are better but you're lacking the support buff of increased damage (Ground Control).

[hearty owl]

Main part of FI that makes HE healer obsolete is the shared healing

the bag is rarely used but it has more total healing than HE with it

[smoky latch]

That too

[raw forge]

hello people, quick question

on the striker set, for myy secondary stats, do I want crit chance on ALL my pieces, or 1 or 2 crit damage rolls as well?

[smoky latch]

CHC is capped at 60%. With most builds you want to be between 55-60% CHC, the rest goes into CHD

How you do this depends on your gear pieces

[raw forge]

ok

I plan to farm overdogs. is that right move or shoild I go with the coyote helmet?

Also my watch is like lvl 110 so I dont have the max crit bonus from it

[smoky latch]

Overdogs is perfectly fine. Coyote's works too but you can reach higher DMG numbers with Overdogs

[raw forge]

also I have these extra points in my watch in the middle which I can exchange for resources. Can i do that or is it bad?

[smoky latch]

Later on they'll be a main source for optimization materials

[solar sable]

watch bonuses are 20% CHD and 10% CHC, it does help but it's not necessary. ALTHOUGH it is recommended to go CHC

[raw forge]

and from what you said last time I should farm the control point stuff for lots of EXP?

10% is a lot maybe I should prioritise watch stats over gear

[smoky latch]

A small word of advice here: do not use your points directly for Field Recon Data. It's cheaper to craft them at a crafting station and to just refill their crafting materials

[raw forge]

I dont have the blueprint for field recon data

[solar sable]

If you want, I can carry you through the process of XP farming
do you own Year 1 Pass by any chance?

[smoky latch]

Farm control points level 3/4, which is challenging and heroic

[hearty owl]

National Bond Bank jail 😭

[smoky latch]

That'll net you all possible blueprints in no particular order

[raw forge]

ok

[raw forge]

I have ulti edition, hope that comes with it

[smoky latch]

It does contain the Y1 pass, yes

[solar sable]

it does, alrighty, I'll send you a DM and hopefully you're still on in two hours

[raw forge]

I'm just looking to make 1 really good setup right now that lets me pull my weight in countdown

[smoky latch]

You'll get there

[raw forge]

and in general tbh, very hard to do stuff without having friends online

or relying on people during mm

[smoky latch]

Matchmaking is real tho

[hazy steeple]

#td2-clan-recruitment is a great place to find a more permanent friend group.

[raw forge]

I thing I should get overdogs first and see where things go from there

[raw forge]

gotcha

[hazy steeple]

There's no downside to leaving and joining another, if the group isn't your speed, so swap around until you find one that suits you.

[wispy hollow]

TIL

[livid sorrel]

I needed that like 20 optimizations ago

[smoky latch]

5x XP event, you will get over it :p

[signal frigate]

The gloves for this build are they still obtainable ?

[smoky latch]

Yes

[signal frigate]

How do you get em

[smoky latch]

Targeted loot set to "Gloves". You can also farm for its blueprint by doing Hyena Retaliations

Or do both at the same time

[lost wren]

hyena retal with target loot gloves on heroic
should get it in no time

[viral beacon]

i want to do a build with bluescreen status build what should i use as a set and stats i should go for?

[cerulean smelt]

not sure if people done a status bluescreen build honestly 🤔

[vocal badger]

The blueprint or the actual gloves?

[lost wren]

either

[vocal badger]

I got the gloves blueprint from true sons and I need automatic turret parts

[solar sable]

TL drops the gloves, Hyena Retaliations have a chance to give the crafting blueprint

[vocal badger]

Been trying for the past two days and only have the blueprint

[smoky latch]

Craft them with broken SHD watches. You cannot get them directly

[vocal badger]

Okay that’s what I was assuming

[vocal badger]

Yeah grinding Retaliation is so boring ngl

[smoky latch]

What?

I don't share that opinion; much better than years of grinding Control Points

[vocal badger]

I’m just saying you have to grind a decent amount for the broken shd watch’s and it’s a struggle for me to stay focused

[smoky latch]

You can also craft Broken SHD Watches from other materials, FYI

[vocal badger]

How much do you get from a bundle

[smoky latch]

Watches?

[vocal badger]

Yeah

[smoky latch]

Uno

[vocal badger]

Just one😭

[smoky latch]

Wait, let me see rq, not sure rn

5

[vocal badger]

Okay that’s much better

[smoky latch]

My bad; I realized that one was a little bit crazy

[vocal badger]

I made some automatic turret parts and I think it’s pretty funny how you only get 15 and you need 35 to make the gloves

[hazy steeple]

They are adding Black Tusk Retaliations some time soon, just an FYI.

[smoky latch]

Credit to V1rtualzZ for this:

@hexed steppe

[cerulean smelt]

🤔 i'm tempted to keep this build kind of digging it

[cerulean smelt]

oh forgot stats
@hexed steppe thoughts? as my resident skill build user? 😹

[hexed steppe]

why shiney?

[cerulean smelt]

only other 2 piece i can think of using with impetus to try it out

[hexed steppe]

are you running any crit chance mods specifically

[cerulean smelt]

1, the others damage

[hexed steppe]

swap mod to damage, run ceska and grupo. only 1 will need a yellow core and itll be easy to farm them with the crit stats

the duration or 5% efficiency from shiney is meh in comparison

should be 58/183 after that unless my math aint mathing

[raw forge]

what is this retaliation? how can I access it?

[cerulean smelt]

i could swap them all and just go skill damage/haste for the fun of it

[cerulean smelt]

you piss off a faction enough they take over a region. it's on the map screen. scroll to the left 2 times i think?

@raw forge yeah 2 tabs over in the map

[hexed steppe]

the other option i was thinking is going 3 wyvern in place of the shiney and running oxi as one of your skills. 3pc wyvern is 45% duration

[raw forge]

i dont have it..

[hexed steppe]

i dont think that would jive as well with the chest though

[cerulean smelt]

you level 40 yet?

[raw forge]

yes

[hexed steppe]

have you unlocked your watch

[raw forge]

I havent done the blacktusk story though

[raw forge]

lvl 128

[cerulean smelt]

ah, probably why then? 🤔

[raw forge]

was doing my priority stuff for the week and got this. usable?

[hexed steppe]

yes

not as good as overdogs, but solid piece for dps

[raw forge]

is the roll worth investing resources to optimise?

[sweet moon]

I'd say why not

[cerulean smelt]

nearly perfect. 3 optimizations and they're fully optimized

[raw forge]

time to get all the optimization resources

I put my world on heroic and did a control point but did not get the field wahtever resource...

now I need to get hyena tactical assessment..,

[serene flare]

I'm not entirely sure where you got this from
all of my testing shows that EP spreads the buffed damage from Perpetuation on both the Sticky Bomb and Chem Launcher

this is the damage that my regular sticky bomb does without Perpetuation. It's consistent from being spread with Eclipse Protocol

here's the damage after being buffed with Perpetuation once the burning procs subsided on the target practice dummies

it doesn't only buff the damage of the initial proc
EP takes the damage of the initial proc and spreads it amongst enemies within its radius
the only diminishing factor is the duration of the status proc

[subtle bluff]

Perpetuation P.
Headshots grant +75% status effect damage and duration to the next status effect you apply. Cooldown: 20s (16s).

I'll be honest I forgot what Perpetuation did maybe I was thinking about something else.

Let me re-test

[vernal wing]

Do I want skill haste or Repair skill on future Initiative build?

[solar sable]

both

[vernal wing]

Is there a target amount?

Or a ratio?

[solar sable]

this is basically it

[subtle bluff]

BTW you can't turn offf the GE...
@cerulean smelt
You people lied to me.... ❤️

[subtle bluff]

Not really TBH

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, that's modifiers AKA when we had the true son defector following after us

[hexed steppe]

what i meant is it wont rebuff the spread, but itll still spend the proc if it spreads while its procced. i understand that the spread will be increased based on the snapshot from the initial damage application just like skill damage. the cooldown is where it sucks. cap has no cooldown, neither does insync

[serene flare]

I found that In Sync is super finnickey, and I'm just not a fan of how the Capacitor looks lmfao
I'm so petty

I did want to try this however
I just pulled it from CD. Lowers my damage a good bit, but I wanted to see if Calculated would let me spam more

[hexed steppe]

for what build?

[serene flare]

Eclipse Protocl

[cerulean smelt]

to deactivate Ambush Global Event

[hexed steppe]

dont, self nerf as bad as ninja

[serene flare]

Hmmm, I dunno
I know the testing range isn't really ideal
but my sticky bomb came back off of cooldown in 3 seconds lmaoooo

[hexed steppe]

turn the haste off

[serene flare]

I did

[hexed steppe]

button

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, range is broken in that way 😹 you go in real world your sticky cooldown increases immensely

[hexed steppe]

try it real world ig

[subtle bluff]

ooooh... It is a GE.. you guys confused me. LOL

or i did myself.....

I'm testing it EP thing getting clips

[cerulean smelt]

you might've yourself with how they put GE in general. not easy to get to anymore

[serene flare]

okay yeah, it's a LOT less damage, but the chaining still works in Heroic CPs, and the cooldown is incredible

I'm spamming my Sticky like ver 5-10 seconds

[cerulean smelt]

now can't say if you matchmake you don't join someone who has the global event enabled though 😹

[stone lark]

for the m60 is there a definitive best variant for it?

[undone quartz]

This is the build I run for that sniper build we talked about yday

Jus testing now its just as broken as i remember lol

think this backpack was the hardest thing to get as i think habsburg only drops as blue core, so need perfect rolls on rest with vigilance

[dim girder]

is it okay if i have lots of my armor filled with more assualt rifle damage but im using an lmg

[solar sable]

not really no

[dim girder]

well most of my other armor kinda suck and has less buffs. Should i just switch to assault rifle,, i just got this lmg from the dark zone and iw anted to try it out 🥹

[solar sable]

which lmg is it?

[dim girder]

m249 B

[solar sable]

hmmm, not bad

[dim girder]

im lvl 15 if that means anything

[solar sable]

ah, dont worry about builds until youre lvl40, enjoy the game and learn as much as you can in the meantime

[dim girder]

alrightt

[raw forge]

you ventured into the DZ at lvl 15 thats more brave than ill ever be lmao

[vernal wing]

Anyone have the HE DPS Raid build for DH?

[dim girder]

it was worth it

[solar sable]

(old link)

[dim girder]

anyone know how to get weapon mods

[hexed steppe]

level 3 and 4 control points completion rewards a blueprint. some are for weapon mods

you can hover over the mods in your crafting bench and itll tell you if they have special requirements to unlock

[subtle bluff]

Oh we need to not share this

[solar sable]

oh?

[subtle bluff]

and update quickly... it's really Old

[solar sable]

lmao okay 😆

[subtle bluff]

It has evernote links.....

[solar sable]

OH GOD

[subtle bluff]

One min don't look at that.. Let us fix this...

[smoky latch]

I remember when Evernote was completely free to use. Good times 😄

[subtle bluff]

This thing really needs update

[onyx sage]

try hackmd.io, i love it so far

[atomic nest]

Anyone got a build meant for DZ, kinda want to be able to keep up with the pve and pvp

[solar sable]

better ask in #td2-pvp-discussions

[atomic nest]

True. Thank you

[subtle bluff]

HEY... @hexed steppe ... It's time....

Oops I didn't mod the mortar..

[hexed steppe]

NICE

yeah this event is crazy

hitting my normal numbers without proccing anything 🔥

[solar sable]

I cant imagine what will numbers be with everything procc'ed

[hexed steppe]

👆

thats with overdogs. i imagine ill hit around 17-18

[subtle bluff]

The 🐧 is doing it different and getting close to that

[quartz yoke]

301% headshot damage is mad, but since it has determined, that's sick af.

[north bramble]

so did the devs make the equalizer more rare because its so good or am i just on the rng naughty list? almost 20 runs of countdown and not a single equalizer drop

[subtle bluff]

RNG is RNG

[cerulean smelt]

pray to RNGesus or sacrifice to Lootcifer @north bramble

or the fastest way. don't want it anymore, it'll rain equalizers for you 😹

[north bramble]

good point

[subtle bluff]

You're targeting UA right?

[north bramble]

yea

[hexed steppe]

failure to sacrifice. rngesus never helps

[runic rapids]

this is what i want right?