td2-build-advice

[silent storm]

Yeah SG gets nerfed in 4 man

[subtle bluff]

You never said what 4 man

So I said ok I can do 4 man heroic

[solar sable]

I still have to level up Firewall to take full advantage of Striker Shield

[silent storm]

I wish it wasn't though, I love a good shotty build

Div1 you could do everything with a SG

So strong

[atomic turtle]

Ok, so w/o Tinkerer = HF + Ceska Int/Matador
w/ Tinkerer = HB + Vig BP?

[subtle bluff]

I mean we can... But then you're gonna say something else..

[silent storm]

You should have a Ceska chest you can put whatever talent on you like

[atomic turtle]

I do.

[silent storm]

about what?

[buoyant perch]

Matador's 5% wp damage is really weak. Use a groupo or the brand with 10% shotgun damage.

[subtle bluff]

Being able to do with a build..

We've had a build for 4man leggo Shotgun but again context here matters.

[atomic turtle]

Actually if I do the Tinkerer option, I have a godrolled Ceska backpack ready to go with Vig.

[silent storm]

Matador is 20% WD though

[atomic turtle]

So glad I kept that, lmao. I once debated trashing it.

[buoyant perch]

What

[silent storm]

15+5

[atomic turtle]

That's....

Not how that works.

[silent storm]

And H-K is 40%

[subtle bluff]

.......

[atomic turtle]

That 5 is additive to your WD calc.

[subtle bluff]

Brb gonna go get a Shotgun 4m legoo clip

[silent storm]

I feel like 5+15 is 20

[atomic turtle]

It's not though, as far as I'm aware. It's deceptive in how the game actually calculates damage.

[buoyant perch]

We are comparing matador to a different brand bonus. The core is irrelevant.

[atomic turtle]

Also that ^

[silent storm]

ok that makes sense

[atomic turtle]

I'd get much more value out of 8% CHC than 5% extra WD. That's the bottom line, I think.

[silent storm]

I just like the Matador because it gives a slight advantage due to more armor

[buoyant perch]

He's already got a ceska chest so I recommend a different brand for the backpack

[atomic turtle]

That's If I'm running HF. Gonna try with HB since I'm using Tinkerer.

[silent storm]

Like my Perfect Killer build has Matador and H-K and it's really good close range attacking

You need to know what you are doing though because you will die if you don;t

[atomic turtle]

Aww yeah. This shit's juicy. I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this build.

I think I can even be a bit flexible with the cores since I can recal one or two to blue for extra survivability.

[subtle bluff]

[atomic turtle]

Caught in 144p.

[subtle bluff]

Borrowing clips.

[atomic turtle]

lol

[silent storm]

That's like 8p

[atomic turtle]

Thanks for the advice, Chow. This HB build is lookin fine as hell right now.

[silent storm]

Fullscreen of that clip lol 8p

[subtle bluff]

Fine...

[silent storm]

Another capture. Can't see dupas

[cerulean smelt]

think you need to upgrade your graphics card or computer. you pictures clips are horrible

[silent storm]

I have a 4700

[silent storm]

Are you secretly Kamakazivondoom?

[subtle bluff]

Now that's very rude

[silent storm]

lol

[subtle bluff]

If that person even do a sec of this that'd be magical

[silent storm]

The yellow coat lol

[cerulean smelt]

i believe rowdy is probably him though, pretty trolly like him

[silent storm]

No I am a much better troll than he is

Post that shotgun build though

[subtle bluff]

He doesn't have friends.

[silent storm]

I have no friends

[subtle bluff]

It's HHF

[silent storm]

From the sheets?

[cerulean smelt]

same one in the pins here that people dont' look at right?

[subtle bluff]

Yup

[silent storm]

ok

[subtle bluff]

They're doing it with DCH too.

[silent storm]

DCH?

[subtle bluff]

Dodge City Holster

[silent storm]

oh yeah

How does that matter for SG?

[cerulean smelt]

1 shot pistol kills anywhere on the body

[silent storm]

Yeah I have a Regulas that does that

[subtle bluff]

H H F

[silent storm]

So what did they give up to add DCH?

[subtle bluff]

BP

[silent storm]

But he has Vigilance

So glitched then

[subtle bluff]

UH?

[silent storm]

Yeah I can make a 1 shot build all I need to do is cheat

[subtle bluff]

....

[silent storm]

exactly

[subtle bluff]

You don't.. but ok..

you can do with vig...

[silent storm]

That ain't HHF

It's another build

[subtle bluff]

It's the other one shot build

Hey you can look.

I can do HHF solo leggo quickly

[silent storm]

That is DCH Vigilance and Headhunter

[subtle bluff]

this guy.

[silent storm]

There's hundreds of builds what one do I look for

You said HHF but HHF ani't giving all these buffs

[silent storm]

I just realized that pistol gets a 80% DMG bonus while Shotgun only gets 10%

[subtle bluff]

where are you getting this..

[silent storm]

Brandsets

[subtle bluff]

You're context sucks.

[silent storm]

Well blame Massive

[subtle bluff]

No. I won't because you have no idea how there balancing it..

[silent storm]

Their

[subtle bluff]

What's a Pistol Base WD vs Shotguns.

[silent storm]

What pistol?

[subtle bluff]

W/e the highest are

anyways I'm over this. Point Shotguns do not get out scaled when they have some of the highest base WD in the game.

[silent storm]

You just realized

SG is great for solo

[subtle bluff]

Anywhere you see us using Reggie one shot we can use shotguns just as easily.

[atomic turtle]

*They're

[subtle bluff]

You're just being ignorant or stubborn.

I hate English.

[silent storm]

I hate the English as well

atleast that we can agree on

[cerulean smelt]

why can't they be both?

[solar sable]

who sent that I didnt see the full thing lmao

[atomic turtle]

lmao

[silent storm]

It was a FFXIV mage

Opening cutscene when they are calling ancient magic

[atomic turtle]

Hold on, I have a better one somewhere.

[silent storm]

I'm 20 minutes late to bed lol night all.

[atomic turtle]

Aww, I wanted to see more interactions between Chow and Rowdy.

[cerulean smelt]

here you didn't offer any 🍿 ?

[atomic turtle]

u right. 🍿

[shy willow]

🧂 salt them bad boys

[subtle bluff]

you ppl

[cerulean smelt]

salty buttered popcorn sounds grub right now honestly

[magic pilot]

It's broken I'm pretty sure, he does that to troll KvD

[solar sable]

I've been also getting a lot of good stuff

[cerulean smelt]

i need a chain killer and 3 IA 😹

[solar sable]

is it possible that this is meant to have higher chances of getting goodies? 👀

[cerulean smelt]

3rd account i've been getting maxed stats for library 😹

[raven pecan]

Hey guys so I built this build for pvp in DZ/ conflict and or solo missions where I need abit more armour than my normal DPS build and tips for improvements?

[cerulean smelt]

personaly i'd never mix PVP or PVE loadouts. you make a loadout for PVP, then you make a seperate loadout for PVE

[raven pecan]

Consider it a pvp loadout then

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say post it in the #td2-pvp-discussions and ask there

[raven pecan]

Cheers homie

[cerulean smelt]

good luck i don't pvp so i couldn't give you an answer honestly. best i can give is get a ninja backpack. slap it on there then mask, gloves, knees heartbreaker, equalizer and salvo maybe?

all i know is Umbra is a heartbreaker archnemesis in PVP

[raven pecan]

Oh sweet good thing I’ve kept my equalizer Chest I nearly got rid of it as on my usual DPS build I was told to change it to Fenris for assault damage and I’ve got it proficient now so it’s working quite well for my solo stuff and countdown I’m making it work 😅

Thank God for revive hives amirite😂

[cerulean smelt]

and my animated revive hive (companion)

[raven pecan]

Hahah yeah that dude has saved me a few times I turned him off recently coz his footsteps were annoying me hunting mini war hounds (can’t get hounds man bounty tho 😢)

[cerulean smelt]

keep at it, you'll eventually get it. someone else did like 50 of them and no bounties rngesus can be cruel

[raven pecan]

Oh dang I’ve done about 10 - RIP server maintenance but

[west sky]

Been playing td2 for a week, looking for help in count down 🥹

[subtle bluff]

It should group you with people.

[west sky]

Yeah but when they see my trash build they leave, damnit

[subtle bluff]

Then start lower

[raven pecan]

I’m shd 218 I’ll run it with you man

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't work like that. There LFG id:browse for your own platforms.

[magic pilot]

Umbra is every builds archnemesis

[strong cave]

Not good for pvp as everyone and their mom knows how to counter pulse

Plus all they need is bighorn Regen and you're pretty much dead

Also how do you expect to play with a PC player if you're on PlayStation lmfao

[slate spoke]

is there anything special about the bellringer other than the sound and skin?

[inland estuary]

Anyone else do some crazy stuff with hybrid tank builds? 🤣

[cerulean smelt]

nope, that's it

[cerulean smelt]

probably a lot, but they did striker

[inland estuary]

I really want to do a DPS/skill hybrid build, got some old notes I need to go through. I still haven't even gotten the eagle bearer 😭

Id prefer doing a status effect build with the pestilence to give it a try

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i'm still working on my skill hybrid build honestly 😹 2 pieces reallly

[inland estuary]

I think I had like one piece left for a straight DPS

[cerulean smelt]

this is what i'm trying to accomplish for a hybrid skill build

those 2 Palisades i want to be Weapon Damage cores. think it'd boost capacitor's damage quite a bit honestly since i'll still have 6 skill tiers with 4 weapon cores

[inland estuary]

Oh yeah that build is way better than mine lol. I love the capacitor

Only thing my build can make sure of is that nobody else dies on legendary 🤣

[magic pilot]

I have something like this for PvP but it uses Ninjabike

Healer/tank hybrid

[cerulean smelt]

oh?

[magic pilot]

With kard custom I could go to 5 armor cores. Think capacitor is better though

[inland estuary]

I have so much armor after a few kills it's ungodly. But I don't do enough damage

[shy willow]

You've just discovered why trying to tank is generally ill advised 😭

[inland estuary]

No, I discovered that years ago. I just haven't changed it 🤣

I'm going to start working on it again though. That assassin's Creed armor got me back in last night

[lost wren]

this is a groll bell ringer right?

[hazy steeple]

It depends on your definition of "godroll", as it didn't come perfect.

[strong cave]

Pestilence isn't a status effect

I'm surprised nobody called this information out

[magic pilot]

I'll be honest I tend to tune out the green names

[strong cave]

Usually for good reasons

[inland estuary]

Whoops I automatically remembered it as a status effect because it transfers damage, but technically I guess it's not. More like an ARCing shot

[strong cave]

Pestilence ticks scale off of weapon damage. Any set that gives weapon damage or some form of amp will boost the ticks. ~~Striker/~~Coco/Lengmo/LMG Damage helps scale it

ODogs will scale it as well

[inland estuary]

Green names? Trash talking console in 2026 is lame brother I'm just making conversation. I've got PC I just play on console with friends

[strong cave]

Pretty sure damage to health scales the ticks too. Might be wrong with that. I just know weapon damage/amp = helps ticks

[magic pilot]

I played console for the last 15 years

[inland estuary]

Yeah I saw a guy running pestilence last night just shredding everything. Got no clue what his build was

[strong cave]

Coco, most likely. Or 3 Lengmo

[magic pilot]

I tune out the green names because there's a small pool of Xbox players on division 2 and we tend to have more issues with them than other platforms. "The few ruin it for the many" I think is a fitting saying

"Only every 3rd magazine crits"

[strong cave]

Problem with green names lately is there's so few of them like average said and they tend to be the loud majority that post the worst advice and builds for others

Xbox tends to be the casuals platform

[hazy steeple]

@strong cave @magic pilot Okay you two, be nice.

enough of the elitism.

[magic pilot]

I'm being nice it's nothing personal, they seem very chill

[inland estuary]

I'd hope this game would be casual after 7 years 🤣.

[strong cave]

Elitism is a bit of a stretch to label this. I'd say it's moreso just giving context as to why they got the answers they did, or lack thereof

[strong cave]

It's FAR from it

[magic pilot]

@shy willow and @solar sable are great Xbox players

[strong cave]

The biggest problem with div 2 build space right now is people prioritize their fun over the group's fun. And they wonder why their entire group leaves bc the other 3 are dead and bro is running around with a tank build and delaying inevitable death

Doing basically nothing

[magic pilot]

Yea it kinda sucks everyone leaves groups after 1 activity

[onyx sage]

now there's only 1 average...

[strong cave]

It does, bigtime. All players are equal here but you do get those that ruin it for others

[inland estuary]

Only really in dark zones is it not casual. Shepherd exists for a reason lol. But I really do need a new build. And nah I've had people thank me for keeping them alive with revives. My tank can dish it out a bit with stackable skill tree perks, like using the harmony or the test subject.

[shy willow]

Gearsets only work in groups ahh

[strong cave]

Lots of us try to prevent that

[strong cave]

If a tank is only reviving people, you're better off just being a healer

You'll give the team damage AND keep them alive

[magic pilot]

Or just hard carrying as a dps

[onyx sage]

if you do things transparently, you won't get thanks, but that's not a bad thing

[strong cave]

There's only 1 tank build I'd ever recommend to anyone who wants a solid support build and even then you have to play super aggressively

[hazy steeple]

Tempest.

[inland estuary]

I'm usually both tbh. I like keeping people alive and drawing fire. My build also makes the backfire useable with no difference. Cancels the bleeding out

[shy willow]

If it's not blue OD I'll cry

[strong cave]

You just love that damn build don't you 😂

I'm lazy. Me striker

[magic pilot]

Backfire bleed is really easy to avoid now

[inland estuary]

I get up in their faces with the Scorpio usually

[strong cave]

My build would fit nicely for you

[magic pilot]

We have dimishing status effects now

[inland estuary]

I'd love some recommendations tbh.

[strong cave]

Lemme post it rq

[magic pilot]

• backfire has a cool mechanic where you can spam 3 bleed reloads and then you are immune

[hazy steeple]

its the best thing since sliced theo

[strong cave]

😂

[inland estuary]

Is that actually how that works???

[onyx sage]

yes

[strong cave]

Yes. The bleed comes from NEW stacks

[magic pilot]

Man I've really missed some of the manhunt lore!

[inland estuary]

I didn't know the backfire stopped, dang I never noticed

[strong cave]

At 100 stacks or spam 3 reloads

[onyx sage]

man the space lasers got really wild last season

[hazy steeple]

hey when the illuminati showed up, you knew it was gonna get wild

i love how that sounds like a joke

[magic pilot]

#td2-build-advice message

This used to be a standard incursion build for backfire, now it's a little different

[solar sable]

define great

[shy willow]

Deep faked bio terrorism

[magic pilot]

Yes

[solar sable]

so pro

[strong cave]

You're a faker. Your name is purple, not green

[inland estuary]

The last time I grinded like I did last night was the resident evil event I'm so behind 🤣

[strong cave]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/JwZfPfWL

If you like being aggressive with Scorpio , this build rewards your team for playing that way

It has multiple Legendary/Master clears and works fine on heroic

[magic pilot]

Can't be good no ninja bike or determined

[strong cave]

Shit, you're right, I forgot my Aegis dawg

[hazy steeple]

fixed it for ya

[strong cave]

Broooooooo 😂

[inland estuary]

Thanks man lol. Any really good build that works with the eagle kneepads or is that kinda outdated now

[strong cave]

Sawyers? Eh, too niche. Is a good counter for explo in PvE/pvp

[magic pilot]

That only works in groups it's a gearset

[inland estuary]

Yeah the sawyers. Forgot the name

[magic pilot]

Sawyers is very over shined by other gear now

[strong cave]

Rivens gave me the antidote I'm no longer green!

[magic pilot]

Tinkerer, blacklister, bloody knuckles, overdogs, even exodus for utility

[strong cave]

Watch me turn red instead

[onyx sage]

birdies or beacon seems to be the play now for support exotics

[shy willow]

He left me

[strong cave]

Writing Beacon into my off meta guide 💯

[magic pilot]

If it was me that'd be a throwback

[strong cave]

I started from humble beginnings: PlayStation 2

Moved to OG Xbox, then Xbox 360. Then Xbox One/One S, now PC. Haven't left. Wish I had PS3 tho

[inland estuary]

I'm actually surprised how well div 2 ran on cloud play when I tried it yesterday on my lunch break, they must be fixing it up a bit

[strong cave]

Steam deck 💯 saves you a ton of bandwidth

[inland estuary]

Oh trust me if I had the money right now I would, maybe when I move up mid year.

Might just start streaming some division, gotta get back on that channel grind while I be making a fool out of myself with whack builds 😆

[strong cave]

Shoulda got the LCD when it was in production. I got a 256 GB model for a little over 275 ish. They're no longer being made so you're stuck paying about 350 for OLED or 600+ for a legion go or Rog Ally. My advice: stick with a deck

Been maining div on a deck while on the go for a while. It's perfect

[inland estuary]

Is the rog even worth it? It seems overpriced af

[strong cave]

No. Legion Go is where the price stops being worth it

[solar sable]

I told you I was back bruh, just need game pass tho

[strong cave]

For 30 a month? Just re buy warlords

[shy willow]

Gold is cheaper but still having to pay to play online sucks

[solar sable]

it's still quite expensive if you think about it

[strong cave]

360 a year to play online and have access to a category of games which you'll play all of 5-

Pass. PC is where it's at 💯

Div PC is soooooo smooooooth

[magic pilot]

Plus you can use Xbox gold on pc anyway

[marsh lava]

Div 2 was 30 bucks on Steam with all dlcs, just buy it on steam.

[solar sable]

A friend gifted me the Ultimate version, I already have them. Please read what the conversation was about, which was about Online Subs for Consoles.

[subtle bluff]

wrong id:browse there are LFG channels for you platform for this question.

[junior lagoon]

Please tell me Pinprick is used in superb builds

[subtle bluff]

eh...

[junior lagoon]

3rd attribute chd or dtoc in markman rifle?

[tulip charm]

Dttoc

[burnt bone]

Think “best in slot” 3rd attribute for all weapons besides LMGs is Dttoc

[subtle bluff]

It's always DTTooC
then for numbers wise CHC > RoF > DTA/DTH > everything else..

[junior lagoon]

ok another question in my refactor skill build, with 20 percent chc, dhould i use 5 chc or 20 accuracy muzzle for my harmony

30 accuracy sorry

so i can increase my chc from 20 to 25 or increase accuracy by 30, harmony rifle

[smoky latch]

Refactor with CHC?

Oh weapon mods, I see

[junior lagoon]

yeah muzzle for harmony

[subtle bluff]

Match it to your Main weapon

your CHC.

[junior lagoon]

capacitor is 20

[subtle bluff]

do your best then

[junior lagoon]

accuracy not useful?

[smoky latch]

My Harmony as 15% CHC

[junior lagoon]

i have already 2 chc on it

muzzle will be 3rd

[smoky latch]

I value stability/accuracy on this build more with that rifle archetype

[subtle bluff]

But you're only using that rifle for quick fights

[junior lagoon]

do you use the large suppressor?

[subtle bluff]

Capa is better in longer fights for stacking

[smoky latch]

Ya

[junior lagoon]

no i use it for long disatnce. when enemies are closing in in retaliations for example

[smoky latch]

long in the sense of time, not distance

[junior lagoon]

ah ok

yes capacitor mostly

[burnt bone]

Does anyone else get annoyed about having to go back to the specializations person every time you want to use a diff weapon type

Or am I missing a menu somewhere

[copper yarrow]

Yeah same. They should've made it so that your weapon preferences gets saved when you save different loadouts

[burnt bone]

That’s how I’d hoped it would work ;-;

[subtle bluff]

Yeah it's a pain sometimes. For loadouts I have 2 hotswap them around to save 2 slots...

Really backward thinking about being lazy..

[last schooner]

murakami pointless?

perfect overclock useful?

[subtle bluff]

As in?

[subtle bluff]

That’s the CD and Reload speed right?

[onyx sage]

yeah

[subtle bluff]

I keep it on me with Haste to help recharge CD when swapping build and skill CD’s are but butts…

[last schooner]

for healer builds,its FI and alps and BTSU?

so no need to murakami. Emp Knees are also PVP item?

[subtle bluff]

Are you talking about Emp Guards? The named piece and not the brandset?

[burnt bone]

do any exotic weps work best with OD

[solar sable]

Iron Lung maybe, I'd prefer a high end lmg for Sadist but you do you boo

[burnt bone]

ok so smth like carnage will be better than st elmos

[solar sable]

oh yeah by far
Elmo's shock rounds will be overridden by Hollow Point and vice versa

[burnt bone]

true true

[solar sable]

are you using the... Overdogs, Coyote's or Tinkerer setup?

[burnt bone]

only have coyote

[subtle bluff]

There's a really good guide in the build hub!

[burnt bone]

Yaa I was just wondering if anyone could vouch for smth besides Scorpio and iron lung (because I don’t have them 🙃)

[solar sable]

you can use anything that doesn't give you any ammo type so that Hollow Point can act properly
Pesti can be used BUT its Ticks won't be affected by OD

[burnt bone]

Ok another OD question, I'm using a vigilance backpack rn but i think a wicked (or whatever the WD on status effect is called) would be easier to use, would I have more luck getting a good one focusing backpacks or a specific brand? prob ceska or UA

[solar sable]

Ceska Wicked is BiS
Wicked is a 100% uptime and you don't get punished for taking dmg like with Vigilance

[subtle bluff]

UA actually is lil more if using killer.

[solar sable]

oh really?

[subtle bluff]

Ya its.

[solar sable]

but wouldn't CHC get hurt by using UA? by like a lot

[subtle bluff]

Killer is too strong.

[burnt bone]

Hmmm I feel like all backpacks would probably have a lower hit rate than targeting UA or Ceska individually tho

[subtle bluff]

Lose small CHD but Killer makes up

[solar sable]

makes sense

[subtle bluff]

Ceska is better to have.

[burnt bone]

Then I shall target ceska 😤

[solar sable]

if I'm right with this > try both UA and Ceska and see what you like most

[burnt bone]

yeah i find it very unlikely im gonna find both with chc/chd/wicked in a reasonable amount of time

[solar sable]

I also recommend getting an Open Talent slot for your Ceska bag so that you can swap the talent freely if you wanna use it for another build

[burnt bone]

oh i have that

I guess i could just swap the talent whenever i wanted to change builds 🤔

[solar sable]

the better alternative is to have two open talent bags

[burnt bone]

well yes

[solar sable]

so that you don't have to swap back to the other one and so on

[burnt bone]

the limiting factor in that scenario is that i dont have 2 open talent backpacks :3

[solar sable]

farm two then
bear with the pain muehehe

[burnt bone]

is the event active in countdown

[solar sable]

probably not

[smoky latch]

Global Events aren't active in CD

[burnt bone]

kewl

[last schooner]

ye

[subtle bluff]

It's niche for PvE and use more in PvP

[last schooner]

double crit Electrique, useful?

[burnt bone]

complain and ye shall receive. Scorpio aquired

And its Dttoc 🙏 🙏

[burnt dock]

Is the hasburg one shot build worth grinding for?! Or is hotshot build good enough ?

[solar sable]

Hotdogs is better

[burnt bone]

Chat I alone am the honored one, another open talent ceska backpack on my first countdown

Do i want any other funky attribute setups on ceska or can I toss anything that isnt chc/chd

[burnt dock]

Thanks! I’m looking for another unicorn item to farm! I’ve completed the unicorn pesti build. I want something to grind for 😆

[solar sable]

for OD? nah not really

[solar sable]

Do you want another unicorn build? Mortar Supremacy is the answer

[burnt bone]

nah just generally, dont wanna toss a unicorn or whatever theyre called

[burnt dock]

Sweet bro I love a grind! I think around 80 hours total for pesti build! Have you got a pic of the build I can see ? Thanks

[solar sable]

I think I sent you the Starters Guide which has a unicorn list in it

[solar sable]

It's in the pinned Spreadsheet after the same name as I wrote

[burnt dock]

Thanks I’ll take a look 😀

[burnt bone]

you right

[solar sable]

maybe as Mortar BTSU/PCA

[burnt dock]

Sorry bro can I get a link to it ? I can’t find it 😓

[subtle bluff]

Hotdog is good enough. The Hasburg grind is painful is noticeable but unneeded with overdogs starting the chain.

[solar sable]

Click the top where the channel name is, then go to Pins and it's named Spreadsheet 2

[burnt bone]

Is Scorpio a strong weapon besides its capability in support?

[solar sable]

kinda, it got nerfed a while back

[burnt bone]

Ok, I’m mainly wondering if it’ll be a reliable secondary. Like can I whip it out in a pinch or will it struggle to kill when it matters

[solar sable]

m870/acs-12 with brazen as backup is more reliable

[subtle bluff]

For general use it's mid... Does nothing special other than CC. Eventually 20% amp to the target.
On normal no point. On bosses and hunters it's good (if they can be CC) but it's dmg amount isn't great anymore.

[burnt bone]

I see 🤔 and what’s the deal with stock broker? I know it has higher ROF but does the lower damage per shot make it less desirable than lefty or normal acs

[lost wren]

in terms of dps normal acs with brazen is still better, stack broker is just faster stacking for striker or heartbreaker

lefty you use if you want stacking and perfect sledge

[burnt bone]

Gotcha

[lost wren]

i should use the lefty more often

[burnt bone]

My problem with lefty is the guys I want to hit with grenades keep rolling out of the blast radius;-;

[lost wren]

yeah it’s sometimes miserable lol

really good with survivalist grenade in pvp though

[burnt bone]

Oh is surv grenade hard to dodge

That could be tech

[lost wren]

i need to actually use survivalist, i just don’t know when or how

[burnt bone]

Is there a reason why stack broker and bell ringer aren’t in the named weapons part of the spreadsheet

[subtle bluff]

It's stacking ACS12. Kind of replace double RoF lefty.
ACS12 DTTooC w/ Brazen is the best DPS/DMG
RnR (Rock n Roll) is the best mix for stacking for Striker Chest.

[lost wren]

i love all the acs12 variants
probably my favorite kind of shotgun just irl as well

[subtle bluff]

Lefty RoF was the best for stacking quickly it can still be good because well timed sledged is crazy DPS boost

[burnt bone]

What’s the second ROF from

[lost wren]

i think the underbarrel?

[subtle bluff]

Lefty can mod the Drum

[burnt bone]

Ohh I forgot about that

[subtle bluff]

hehe

[burnt bone]

I think I was already doing that because it was on the striker guide 🤔

[lost wren]

all the acs variants have their uses and that’s why i like them so much

[devout iris]

does anyone can tell me what do i need to make a PFE build here?

[patent fossil]

Check the pinned spreadsheet, in the blue section of the build list there should be one. If not, find the link to iKia's build database and look there.

[junior lagoon]

just saw an exodus striker build. does this give better survivability than memento?

[grand girder]

I'd say memento is better because of 3 cores and double core into shield skill plus its talent but exodus is nice life saver like unbreakable so it depends on what you prefer tbh

[burnt bone]

Ok just to reiterate, if I want uber stacking I use stack broker with fire rate attribute (rip mine is dtooc with talent modded), lefty is good for still nice stacking because I can mod fire rate and use attribute for FR + sledgehammer is good sometimes, or I use a normal acs/rock and roll with brazen for more generally applicability?

[grand girder]

Not trying to be rude but that seems to be more of a statement rather than a question? Can you clarify uber stacking (I'm assuming its fast stacking right?)

[solar sable]

If you don't use Strikers chest don't bother about stacking

[burnt bone]

Yeah I was asking questions about the acs and it’s friends last night

[burnt bone]

Oh that makes sense

[solar sable]

it does because you only have 100 stacks and you can build them by hitting your shots, which is pretty fast either way

[broken edge]

well finished getting proficiency with bittersweet the old fashioned way

while on paper i can say it's pretty good wit haces i just think it's a bit lacking because talent feels clunky to use

anyone got a good idea what to do with it?

[burnt bone]

Yea I’ve been finding that getting to and maintaining 100 is really easy with 1 1/2 st Elmo’s mags

[cerulean smelt]

About only things comes to mind is some sort of red high-end build with repair skills and headshot damage honestly

[broken edge]

Well headphone damage is a rare drop

Well yeah i was think if there was any good alternative to improve the talent

[burnt bone]

rock and roll wants Dttooc right

[subtle bluff]

Works

[burnt bone]

is there a better option

[subtle bluff]

RoF work just doesn't feel right .

[burnt bone]

what do you mean

[solar sable]

if you want your backup to deal DMG go DTOC, if you want it to stack in raids/incursion bosses go RoF

[hazy steeple]

And if you want a better Shottie: use Lefty, or that anniversary one I guess.

[silent storm]

I feel like sometimes it isn't working properly

[subtle bluff]

Why we say aces8 isn’t a good set.

A lot of reasons

[silent storm]

I was talking about the gun talent. Like when you buff at full stacks sometimes it felt like it wasn't counting HS during the buff period so it you break the cycle

Might be a weird interaction with Aces?

The kit is solid though for heals in a pinch

Saw this on YT the other day though and I had most of the gear so I put it together because dude was playing it like D1 shield build. What you think of this?

[subtle bluff]

NBB… Memento would make it work better.

Idk what D1 means nor care to know. You’ve seen what Tech Tank can do. That is what you should try to measure to this type of build.

[waxen girder]

guys, does someone have a extremely good fully tank build plz ?

[subtle bluff]

The issues is what do you do with a Tank build? Just not die?

[waxen girder]

yes, basically to pick up my teammates when they die, and not have to worry about dying

[subtle bluff]

You cannot tank in Div2 like traditional games.

[waxen girder]

bulkwalk shield, armor regen , just dont die

[subtle bluff]

So then your job is waiting for teammate to fall.

You could do without tank

[waxen girder]

basically my job is to pick them up when they go down, and not to do from elite in legendaries

[subtle bluff]

But when no one goes down you just stand around?

[waxen girder]

bombadiers , drones, explosions, all that nice stuff, i want to be able to not give a damn and go in for a revive

[subtle bluff]

You can do that without tanking and support your teammates so they wont go down.

You’re taking away your teammate but just standing around.

[waxen girder]

i just need a savage tank, armor regen, that goes in , get someone up and maybe keep aggro

[waxen girder]

i know how it might sound, just help me plz

[subtle bluff]

It doesn’t work.

[waxen girder]

ugh

[subtle bluff]

If your team get overran no matter how many rez you do you will go down because you aren’t help them other than just rez them

They rez they go down because ya.

The best builds for leggo are the ones that can affect the battlefield the best.

Let me put this way.

[waxen girder]

okay, am listening

[subtle bluff]

A build alone won’t carry you or a team. 1/3 gameplay, 1/3 knowledge and 1/3 a good build. This can be offset from each other lil but you need all of it.

This is my support build when I am needing to help team without having to try hard on DPS or trying to teach people how to clear.

[silent storm]

ImpOSsIBLe t0 w1Pe MaH ArM0R LiEK dAt!!

[cobalt stump]

Anyone know the best way to get tactical assessments? I dont have any of the blueprints and I'm just trying to optimize some gear.

[livid sorrel]

watch scavenging points

[subtle bluff]

Do CP's to farm it.

[fallen comet]

There's no other good way unfortunately. Keep spamming CPs till you get them

[cobalt stump]

Does it matter what difficulty my game is on? Thinking about just clearing the whole map on normal

Also when it comes to pure output, summit floor 10 grind does yield the best results, however it isn’t guaranteed which faction you get. It takes about 2 minutes per run depending on the level type you get and you get 4 tactical assessments for that faction.

[fallen comet]

Yes. Blueprints only drop on challenging (3) and heroic (4) difficulties

[nimble moss]

Do them on challenging (CP3), no need to do on heroic except better gear in chest. But you'll take more time to clear + more risk to fail on heroic.
Just take a good dps build and rush the challenging's one - but it can take time. I got all the optimization blueprint near the end, unfortunally.

You'll get 1 BP per CP, challenger or heroic anyways.

[strong cave]

Hotshot can clear a control point in under 2-3 minutes if you memorize the spawns. Doing it on challenging is a waste, as you can enable all directives on heroic and get 1 level per control point AND 1 blueprint. 2 birds, 1 stone, maximum efficiency

Taking a DPS build to a control point just makes it take even longer

[grand girder]

Striker chatterbox disagrees 😂

[strong cave]

Knowing half these players builds, it's gonna be with ninjabike and Unit Alloys

Turmoil + Headhunter rn even clears faster 😭😂

[meager fog]

NBB goated /s

[strong cave]

I'd rather have my front bumper get goated from a blind driver

However tho, ninjabike bag pvp my beloved

[gloomy spruce]

"aggro" in the division 2 is really closer to the concept of threat. The more damage you do, the more of a threat you are. The more of a threat you are; the more the npcs will target you.

Hence why people tend to frown on the idea of newer players trying to "tank". Often they just stand there doing nothing while the rest of their team dies.

Chow pretty much summed it up in the idea of how much you can shape conditions on the field or be useful to the group.

Pretty much your options are support(blue or Yellow) or Damage.

[onyx sage]

unironically the best DPS in the team will be playing the tank role

cuz they're gonna be focused by every npc

[fiery gust]

We have this phrase coined in my clan called the "Pika treatment." When every ad/mortar/whatever in the entire instance focuses only on you (usually me) regardless of what's going on. 😂

The funny thing is I've had it happen with a healer build on and not even shooting anything. Weird game sometimes.

[scenic shoal]

Any suggestions for a build centered around the exotic Bittersweet Rifle?

[fiery gust]

The stash.

Jk. I haven't tested it, though.

@subtle bluff You tested it? Idk if it's something you would mess with or not.

[copper yarrow]

Anyone got any build ideas for the upcoming shotgun?

[onyx sage]

headhunter

[fiery gust]

You think it's going to be any good? I didn't play the PTS last time.

[onyx sage]

chow did, he thinks it's good for hh. but i'm just spitballing, i just hope with it being a shotgun and with high accuracy it'd be good for hh, since shotguns are usually good with it

[fiery gust]

True. I'm curious how accurate it is and how tight the bloom is. Like...no damage fall off is good on paper, but not if you shoot and the pellets immediately go everywhere except straight forward. 🤣

[onyx sage]

iirc in pts it was round reload like the normal super 90, but since then you've probably noticed they changed to it being mag reload. idk what other changes could be since then so there's really no guessing how strong it will actually be

[fiery gust]

Yea, that's fair. I'm wondering if it'll have boosted melee damage as well since it now features a bayonet.

[onyx sage]

i'm curious about that one too

i just hope that if it is really that strong, it'd be a serious contender for regulus for me, and that would just allow me to run quickstep over it

[fiery gust]

O yea. That would be cool.

[onyx sage]

and would potentially be even more accessible. but that's also dependent on whether the new master is easily soloable or not

on that note: the pact came really close to making it impossible to solo full red no modifiers. i'm scared if the new master will finally end my streak

[fiery gust]

That's uhhhh the cat guy one, right?

[onyx sage]

tidal basin one

[fiery gust]

Ah, yea.

[onyx sage]

that was last season. and the modifiers for that are really strong, so it makes sense that they make the climax that much harder to balance out. just curious with this season with them being frankly underwhelming if it'll be on the same level or worse

[fiery gust]

Idk if I've even done that one yet. I think I have, but can't remember lol.

[onyx sage]

i'm down to run that one if you want 😉

[fiery gust]

I may take you up on that soon. 😌

[median sundial]

Whats the best dps build for pestilence

[solar sable]

CoCo

you can use it on strikers but its Tick dmg won't be affected by Strikers stacks so... you're pretty much not benefiting from them

[copper yarrow]

I think someone in here said the strikers increase pesti ticks too

[onyx sage]

nope that's wrong

it's the easiest thing to test too

[solar sable]

fiftys wtf 😭

you know and yet you said the complete opposite

[onyx sage]

Cast him excommunicado.

[strong cave]

Ping me next time

[magic pilot]

Whoops I missed that too

[strong cave]

I also don't use pestilence with strikers and couldnt remember. Anybody is free to correct me when I'm wrong

Took you guys 4 days and I forgot after 4 days 😂

[strong cave]

I'm typically treated like the black sheep everywhere I go so I'm used to it

[onyx sage]

sir

[solar sable]

I basically stepped in that convo bc Prod pinged me lol

I didn't bother to read the full conversation at all

[solar sable]

sir... please. You are a goat too
it's not like that

[hexed steppe]

no need for the sensitivity... solid callout

we all been there, carry on

[subtle bluff]

What Dien said. It's pretty good for HH.

I have ss somewhere in its groupping but I'm mobile atm

[strong cave]

😂😂 I am pulling all of your chains @onyx sage @hexed steppe

(being jokingly sensitive bc it's how div players are)

[strong cave]

Also, I am a truck

I really need my own truck role in the club

[burnt bone]

ok chat i have strikers, OD, and negotiators, what should I focus on next to round out my loadouts

[gentle lichen]

Anything support wise like FI

[subtle bluff]

CoCo Pesti

[burnt bone]

the streets have been saying this 🤔 (the streets = the voices)

[gentle lichen]

You should listen to the voices

Not the ones that tell you bad ideas though

[burnt bone]

But they never have bad ideas.

Why would you say that. You’ve made them angry. :(

[gentle lichen]

I'm sorry

[fresh yoke]

The voices know the way

[hazy steeple]

Is Rum+Coco okay?

[burnt bone]

I have to go in the punishment box because of you.

[burnt bone]

always :))

[young crown]

what substats do i want for blue striker?

[solar sable]

crits

[young crown]

is there a standard build for incursions?

[magic pilot]

@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

Red 4pc striker chest and BP, acs12.

[young crown]

do the other 2 pieces depend on group comp?

[subtle bluff]

There's no standard per say. It's just doing very good burst and sustained DPS.
There is a video in my bio of how incursion should be able to be ran.

Depends on what you have

In no order. Ceska, Salvo, Overdogs, coyote and bloody knuckles

[young crown]

o7

[subtle bluff]

He was talking about incurison. Not open PvE

[wispy hollow]

Mb, read that as retaliation

[atomic turtle]

@hollow orchid Before you say the game is too hard or poorly balanced, look at this clip.

Having a good build is half the work. The other half is using it properly. Just learn how to dance with the AI.

That clip is on Master difficulty, btw.

[hazy steeple]

It might help a little more if you post what the build is.

[atomic turtle]

It's an HF build from Chow, I don't know the specifics.

I mean... I do, but I'm mid CD match, lmao. give me 15 minutes.

[subtle bluff]

HF

sooo this is a case of a build that's not too great for the context but gameplay and knowledge helped

[atomic turtle]

@hollow orchid
Ok so, the first most obvious bits are:
• It's Hunter's Fury 4 piece.
• Chest with Intimidate
• Backpack with Adrenaline Rush
• KSG Shotgun w/ Brazen + Custom M870 w/ I also assume Brazen?
• They're using the Quickstep named pistol to move from target to target 20% faster (This is a seasonal weapon, you can get one right now during the Bloody Houndsman event, take advantage while it's active).

For the brands, you can use Česká Výroba S.R.O., Badger Tuff, Palisade Steelworks, and Grupo Sombra S.A. Those are the ones I'd recommend for this particular build, anyway.

HF is very much a run & gun build. It relies heavily on map knowledge, exploiting AI weaknesses in tight quarters, picking your fights, and looking for gaps between NPCs. Your goal is to chain kills in as short amount of time as possible so you can build amplified damage stacks quickly before they expire in 10 seconds. You want to keep killing and keep that buff refreshed.

You'll notice in this clip, Chow is using a decoy to help draw some fire off his back while he runs to the objective generators, and he's using a shield to relieve some fire from the NPCs. The shield itself isn't strictly necessary, but it can be a great help. It's mostly down to personal preference. I almost never run with shields on my HF build since I like having the extra mobility. But that's just me.

This is what I mean by having a proper build and the skill to use it. Even if it's not always the optimal build for the situation (Shotguns suffer from poor range scaling, so you really need to make the most of your shots and be in the thick of it to get the most use out of them).

As for an Assault Rifle build, there's plenty out there.

The Hub section of the google docs link I sent you should have one in there. Let me see if I can pick out a suitable one for you.

@hollow orchid
Here's one that uses Negotiator's Dilemma. It's a top tier DPS gear set and this one is good for general use: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_4UqMQwbnO8M125LgDCX1jJ86LsRkPVKjTwFndPo2zY/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.7vfhmvazeq14

This one is good in all cases but it's high-risk, high-reward, you can use this in all cases with any weapon, but it has a steeper learning curve because of the very low survivability:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14dz6MOKZLLr_fjJPUIUCwMtkaSJAjKMKNmFjqAJ5SA4/edit?tab=t.0

I've personally never used ND, but I hear lots of good things from it. The other one is the one I'm used to running. You'll be dropping enemies like flies with it. You just need to learn how to shoot without getting hit, really.

If you want to mess around with Status Effects instead, you can also try this one:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yTpZconNI79H0165-nwpLMIDZaS-f5Gd-WHQGAoQY2M/edit?tab=t.0#heading=h.rtvptn4wfy

This one is pretty easy to use and it's very effective and locking down NPCs. You'll have a lot of control over the field with the Riot Foam variant. But if you just want to watch the world burn, the Fire Chem Launcher deals massive damage to whole groups. It's a lot of dispersed DPS and one I personally recommend. It's a lot of fun.

Ideally, just play whatever you have the most fun with, but always keep in mind, you need to have a coherent build that actually works in practice not just on paper. And you need the skills to use it properly. In the case of HF, you can't just bum rush entire groups of enemies without a plan. You're strong in CQC, but you're still just one person. Even with a shield, facetanking 7 NPCs at once usually doesn't end well.

@hollow orchid If you need more advice, just ask around. Lots of people here are willing to help.

Just maybe be uhh... you know... be a bit more respectful and stuff. Firing shots at the Devs certainly won't help, and they've done a lot to keep supporting a game that should've been abandoned years ago.

We're lucky to have what we have now.

[subtle bluff]

what he said.

[hollow orchid]

Don that’s amazing maybe I try a shotgun crusader build

[subtle bluff]

It's a not a shotgun crusader build.

[hexed steppe]

With the mention of ep, ill note overdogs acting as an amp for fire is currently a thing to hit higher burn strength.

[strong cave]

Hunters fury is nice but you can also go the high end route and not rely on HF stacks. You'll have more up front armor and damage and not be nearly as crit starved. I myself have a build that plays well up to Heroic (because let's be honest, hardly anyone is taking a shotgun into Leggo/Master as their main build for it. Only in niche cases will they use it but for spawn doors)

@solar sable can vouch for this build/setup, it hits while still being tanky as hell

You can swap around many of the pieces. The backpack can easily be a Ceska bag with bloodsucker, but good luck getting double crit with bloodsucker to roll for armor. Gloves can be swapped to contractors and the chest can be swapped to Grupo. Or, you can find a Grupo version of the backpack and roll for armor. Again, good luck with that, that's a unicorn. If you don't care for Palisades, Liquid Engineer (named Belstone backpack, sadly is a PvP exclusive) works fine too

Top end at max stacks at close range, you'll see in between 1.4m and 2.1m crits (body/head)

This is a very slept on setup I see little using

Using tinkerer to unlock Brazen and Pummel gives you amp damage pool and weapon damage (don't ask me specifically what kind of damage it is, all I know is that it's damage). You're tacking on as much damage sources as you can. Pummel will keep your shotgun fully reloaded as long as you're managing to score 3 easy kills. Brazen should be easy to maintain as well since you're shooting bodies. The crit damage is also very high and you're kissing the 60% crit chance cap. If you play the build right, you literally never need to reload. It can almost always 1 hit kill an enemy. Tankier enemies might require more shots but it'll delete them before you're even 25% empty on your tube

KSG is a must on this build. The secondary doesn't matter

[solar sable]

duuuude, when I was farming minihounds a Liquid Engineer with one crit dropped
I was so excited to see it

[strong cave]

I nearly shit myself when I had a Palisades backpack drop with max armor, nearly max CHD, and bloodsucker. Mine was.... Well, let's just say it was crafted...

[upbeat ingot]

Newbie here, which mods do you keep? Offensive, defensive and utility. Just wanna know some opinions

[daring birch]

hello every

[glad heart]

A very subjective question, and largely build type dependent. A well rounded collection would be three highest rolled mods of each type. I run DPS builds, so I concentrate on near-max to max offensive mods (CHC 6%, CHD 12%, Headshot 10% mods.) Defensive mods should include Protection from Elites (PFE; max is 13, but very rare unless running Legendary content, 12 is rather common in Heroic content) Skill Damage and Skill Haste are also important. But again, it is very subjective.

[strong cave]

Bleed/Burn/Ensnare/Pulse are good ones to have as well. Those you won't really use until you start getting into PVP builds or very niche use cases in PvE

[hasty oriole]

When it comes to LMG DPS builds, what third attribute should I roll on the gun? Crit chance or damage to armor?

[hazy steeple]

@hasty oriole Crit Chance is basically the best overall, as it can potentially save a gear mod/attribute slot.

[dreamy schooner]

Would this be classified as a unicorn piece if I roll armor on it for a pesti build

[copper yarrow]

No

Don't use armor with glad cannon

[solar sable]

don't think so, either way PGC is BiS

[strong cave]

Not really. Unicorns would be something like double crit Lengmo to roll for weapon damage. Or double crit matador to roll for armor. Or double crit closer to roll for weapon damage. Or HSD + handling + Vigi on a Habsburg backpack to roll for weapon damage (Habs drops with blue cores always)

[subtle bluff]

This one of the pieces I state is good to use in the pesti guide.

[burnt bone]

For tipping scales, does equalizer replace the ceska obliterate chest

And run coyote mask or smth to make up the chc loss

[pine monolith]

LF some recommendations on a Hunter's Fury/lady Death build. Can I just run a grupo/oblit chest with 4 pieces and overdogs? Or drop overdogs and do memento for survivability?

[dreamy valve]

::Sees blue cores:: You had my curiosity, now you have my attention

[hexed steppe]

you would just make up the chc loss through attributes and still run overdogs.

tipping doesnt really require you to run chd so its pretty flexible where you get your chc

[subtle bluff]

TS in general makes a lot of CHD. So TS is the one build that doesn't need to stack anymore with it.

Why the Bluescreen is rather good on it since it as none and doesn't need it.

[burnt bone]

I see 🤔 uhhh I guess I’ll use contractors gloves (I think I have those?) until I get over dogs

[subtle bluff]

The issue that lady death runs into is cases where there are multiple ads since at best it can barely kill 2 ads with one mag and you need to be moving the whole time.

4x HF and you keep both Chest and BP pieces open for talents or Memento.

[misty walrus]

Ngl, having 1 afk builder in team makes legendary missions a lot more relaxing, especially with refractor set

[hexed steppe]

ok, sooo... OxiDogs is a thing 😎

... and dont judge my wyvern, its an 18+sec oxi 😆

[onyx sage]

remember the guy who was mad at raucey for having 7 skill tiers in his oxi build?

he would be happy looking at this now

[last schooner]

Sacrifice or Equaliser for Tipping Scale chest? running contractors as I don't have O'Dogs for my 4th toon

is it even possible to farm ODog?

[hexed steppe]

yes, glove target loot. blueprint drops from hyena retaliation (which is how i got mine for alts)

whichever chest you are comfortable with tbh. sac is more damage but it needs to work with your playstyle

just make sure you have your crit chance right

[fiery gust]

Curious. What are you using this for and what did you swap from? I mean, is this an improvement from what you were using, or just an alternative setup?

[hexed steppe]

it was 100k+ improvement over contractors

[fiery gust]

Have you tested this vs like an Acosta's setup? Obviously the OvD version gets the benefit of not needing an OC, but just wondering.

[hexed steppe]

these are more side by side for me. if i slap in force multiplier and another hanna piece, lose the duration from wyvern, it can improve higher... its more just a proof of concept that it is an overall improvement, but i havent run it through its paces against what others use. i would definitely love to see some results of it being tested against others known top tier builds tho

[wispy hollow]

I run the same but with Contractors gloves with Skill Damage and Murakami chest with glass canon

[hexed steppe]

i did similar with with mortardogs vs mortar supremacy, and standard fire eclipse vs overclipse protodogs

[hexed steppe]

the wyvern gives 45% duration, which is only reason i use

[wispy hollow]

I know which is why I use that along with 1 piece murakami for an additional 15%

[hexed steppe]

i still preffered btsu over dogs on my mortar setup tho . damage isnt always the be all end all

[hexed steppe]

oh nice

do you have the sacrifice piece? and what bag talent?

ig tech support if same

[karmic zodiac]

What could I do to improve this?

[hexed steppe]

use an eletrique piece in either glove, knee, or holster

you only need 4pc of eclipse or any green set (gearset)

a 5th piece just means no brand bonus and 1 less attribute

[karmic zodiac]

Would an electrique piece give me a skill tier?

[hexed steppe]

yes, it drops with skilltier

[karmic zodiac]

Ooh

Oh heck yeah I have the snow machine knees

[hexed steppe]

perfect, thats what i have n mine too

[karmic zodiac]

What gloves are those?

[hexed steppe]

those are overdogs. im taking advantge of an amp they provide, but it takes management. stick with vile for now

[karmic zodiac]

Alright

[hexed steppe]

do you have capacitor yet?

[karmic zodiac]

Yes I believe

Yep, its rolled with mag size

[hexed steppe]

ok , so if you have that and have it stacked the 60% skill damage will apply to that sticky in a huge way

you can test in the range. its just important to have the capacitor stacks before you fire sticky and itll apply

same with insync talent

[karmic zodiac]

Ooh

500k fire per tick

[hexed steppe]

before or after stacks

[karmic zodiac]

After

[hexed steppe]

i see a jump between 500 to 750 before and after i stack

its also optimized build

[karmic zodiac]

Everything in my build isn't optimized

[hexed steppe]

what is fire with no stacks

[karmic zodiac]

318k

[hexed steppe]

thats why its always suggested use capacitor and in sync shotgun on fire builds

[karmic zodiac]

Would skill damage or haste be better

[hexed steppe]

both cap and shotguns also have damage to armor as 2nd attibute which improves fire further

[subtle bluff]

Status Effect

[hexed steppe]

roll your gear status effects and haste,

[wispy hollow]

This is my setup

[hexed steppe]

utilizing capacitor or insync allows to stack the skill damage on top of the status effects and thats just one of the ways you build in strength to these builds. the more sources you have to draw damage from the higher it can get compared to just investing in one damage type

[subtle bluff]

woah what is this used for?

[wispy hollow]

Also keep a BTSU gloves on hand in case overcharge is needed

[subtle bluff]

I see Glory Daze that's only needed for incursion

[wispy hollow]

Used this a lot for floor 100 + hunter spawn kills

[subtle bluff]

You'd use BTSU for sure for F100 Hunters

[wispy hollow]

Helped me shoot my oxy from inside the room on floor 100 without going inside and triggering enemies

[subtle bluff]

and only Skill DMG..

I have the patch for doing F100 100 times.. i know how to do it.

[hexed steppe]

its a 1 and done setup if for f100

[wispy hollow]

Oh I know, not questioning your setup

[karmic zodiac]

I got 100.4 skill haste and about 52.8 status effects

[subtle bluff]

You don't need that much duration

[hexed steppe]

i would shift it as you find/adjust gear to favor the status and maybe push about 60-70ish% haste

[wispy hollow]

I usually do in the group if no one else is. Otherwise I swap my hive to shock trap and scatter them on hunter spawn

[karmic zodiac]

Ight

[wispy hollow]

Then again you already know this

[subtle bluff]

wait what..
You kill them instantly when they spawn.

With oxi.
They spawn 3 sec later their all dead.

[karmic zodiac]

Is hazard protection always on vile?

[hexed steppe]

yeah

[wispy hollow]

The groups I have ran in the past they get out of the cloud so had to improvise 😂

[karmic zodiac]

Thats cool

[wispy hollow]

I wish you all were on PS lol

[hexed steppe]

thank lootcifer im pc, i would flounder so bad on console 😂

[subtle bluff]

So the 2 tricks I think you're missing is.
One someone needs to be on Riot Foam and Tech Spec with a Hive.
As you walk in you OC with BTSU they Riot foam and it's over

[karmic zodiac]

With vile what are the best skills?

[subtle bluff]

there is no best for that.

[hexed steppe]

keep the sticky, add firestarter chem launcher

[subtle bluff]

since it's just procs from any Status Effect you do.

[wispy hollow]

Exactly what we were missing and mind didnt click. So I had 3 memebers go in and scatter shock traps and start oxying the stage while I shot the Oxy from entrance.
then before entering I overcharge and enter

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/Six6HkkI8jI?si=zKs99uL2TMZ_Qb4G

The goat explains this better than me

oh god these still have evernote on it. lol

[hexed steppe]

better get busy

time to go drag another team in reanimated by running eclipse

[subtle bluff]

I do need to copy over my oxi guide.

[karmic zodiac]

Is sledgehammer considered a status effect?

[subtle bluff]

No

[karmic zodiac]

If only

[subtle bluff]

Types: Fire, Bleed, Shock & Disrupt, Blind & Deaf, Disorient & Ensare

[karmic zodiac]

Would pressure point or another weapon with a different effect be better?

[subtle bluff]

We have a full guide that would answer all your questions.

Pyro would better if you want to do that again.

[hexed steppe]

for what build?

[subtle bluff]

EP

[hexed steppe]

oh, cap or insync talent, all others are way weaker

[hexed steppe]

oic, they just need updated links

[subtle bluff]

Ya.

[last schooner]

Turns out I already have blueprint...but damn these automated defense parts. wtf

need to farm craploads of dogtags

[hexed steppe]

yeah i just converted whatever i could when making mine. well worth

[gusty coyote]

build for the new master mission?

[hazy steeple]

It's not out yet lol.

people are quick, but not THAT quick

[gusty coyote]

lol yea I know. Usually ppl have a go to build for the 1st day

[subtle bluff]

Yea Strikers.

[gusty coyote]

Thanks

[subtle bluff]

to note we're lil over a week from the climax mission. If you haven't done your HTV scouts you can't do the it anyways.

[last schooner]

Does it matter what mats I use to craft broken SHD watch? I don't have many dogtags but more Crystals and spice containers

[onyx sage]

no

[last schooner]

Rugged Gloves are junk yeah?

[solar sable]

ye

[slate wedge]

climax is tomorrow

[subtle bluff]

Losign track of time

[slate wedge]

Climax Mission with Reanimated is gonna be fun, Turmoil HH fest

[cerulean aurora]

So I'm running the profit handgun with a handgun build one shot headshot build. Why is it that determine is not always active even when I do get headshots? Like when I get a headshot it'll activate and then when I take a shot at another person and it'd be a headshot too. It deactivates like what's up with that?

[gentle lichen]

Because that's the perfect talent

Normal determined chains as expected so get a harvest with determined and it's objectively better in every way

[cerulean aurora]

So cuz it's a perfect that's what screw me. I couldn't figure out why like my sniper rifle I have was always procting all the time so it's the hanggun that has to go. I might as well just make myself a One-Shot sniper build

[static gull]

Does anyone have an umbra dz build

[magic pilot]

It's in pvp chat

[static gull]

Ok thanks sorry

[slate wedge]

one good thing to do while the houndsman bounty is back in the game is to grind for a “The Harvest” (Named 686) with DtooC and then have a changeable Talent

in your case you can put Determined on it

also instead of Pestillence and Lexington maybe take a Shroud/Nemesis/Mantis and White Death/M870 with you for stacking Headhunter

[smoky latch]

The perfect talent works as intended. The regular version is knowingly broken and was left this way

[cerulean aurora]

So with the one shot head shot what would you run pistol. rifle or sniper

[smoky latch]

Regulus. Or Harvest/1886 with Determined when solo, in group play Streamline. Cuz it's totally AIDS to run Determined in a group

Also try to get regular IA kneepads instead of the Cloak

[cerulean aurora]

I'm wondering if I should run what AI told me to run LoL

[smoky latch]

AI can't even spell Airaldi Holdings correct

[cerulean aurora]

lol\

[subtle bluff]

Use the gearsheet to look up stuff. It's in the Pinned Messages > Sheet 2

[smoky latch]

This is what I run atm:
#ask-td2-community message

This one's good:
#ask-td2-community message

[smoky latch]

This one but with DCH instead of Overdogs is good too

[glad pilot]

this alright till i get the overdogs?

[smoky latch]

Yeah

Make sure you don't actually use the Headshot Damage mod in your mask

[glad pilot]

true, forgot about it

[simple harbor]

Hello, I’m struggling to find a build that really fits me, especially when I’m playing solo. In a group I have 2–3 builds that hit really hard, but as soon as I’m solo I take a lot of damage and I struggle to build up my Striker stacks (which I find pretty meh outside of raids/groups).

I made a full “premium” build really focused on DPS, but I was told it’s not that great. It’s stable, I hit around 600k crit per bullet with an St. Elmo, but I think there’s better out there—especially in terms of survivability. Often I get hit once and I’m dead. For info, I’m SHD 200.

Mostly I follow the builds here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?gid=1509999994#gid=1509999994

and more specifically here:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?tab=t.0

[subtle bluff]

First off: We don't measure Dmg output by Per Bullets

A build is only some of the game. A build solely will not carry you. Having a good mix of good gameplay, knowledge and build will be the way.

You can see from the video that's what's going on here.

[simple harbor]

Oh ok ! i go often to the test zone to see how dps i do, ill look your video

[subtle bluff]

Use the DPS calu in the Pinned Messages.

[simple harbor]

Ah yes cool !

[strong cave]

Yeah like chow said use the DPS calculator for proper numbers. The firing range DPS is known to generate numbers more random than your RNG when farming. However, it's not to say that testing a build for simplicity in the range is bad. Gives you a very generalized idea on how it will hit against enemies. The real practice of course is using it on a battlefield where your targets aren't made of paper and have a veterancy toggle

[simple harbor]

Yeah ill look my builds on dps calculator, it gonna be really helpful

[subtle bluff]

Above 10 mill is good. Striker Elmo is like 11mill burst and 8 mill Sustain.

[simple harbor]

Ok ill check, thanks for your time fellows !

[ocean stirrup]

just unlocked specialisations what is the best for a new player solo

[subtle bluff]

Gunner

[serene flare]

I got the Eclipse Protocol build to work! Now I'm just wondering if there's room to dump one or two Status Effects stats for Armor recovery

[burnt bone]

Do y’all think I’d have better luck getting a good FI backpack by farming the houndsman bounty for a yellow setup or just rolling the dice on TL backpacks in countdown

For opportunistic or whatever it’s called

[hazy steeple]

@burnt bone If you're farming for a specific brand of backpack, you should be farming that brand, not "backpacks".
Think of it like this: if you go "backpacks", it could be any brand, named, or exotic backpack in the game.

Basically you're just narrowing your loot pool.

[burnt bone]

I just want one with opportunistic, idk which brand is best for FI

I guess I could focus alps, that could be good for healer

[hazy steeple]

Check out the builds in the 📌 pinned-message > "spreadsheet 2" > builds of this channel, you'll find a full meta setup listed with options.

It's all been math'd out by our resident nerds.

[burnt bone]

Oh whoops it even says alps right there haha

I must’ve glossed over it 💀

[hazy steeple]

Hey no worries Agent, it's a lot to take in for sure.
Being willing to learn is half the battle. You got this

[burnt bone]

But what if I’d rather be stuck in my ways…

[onyx sage]

u can grind the setup blueprint and craft it still

[burnt bone]

Oh fr is that from control points

[hazy steeple]

Expect to get kicked from a lot of groups.

[onyx sage]

from control points, not even from recon cache

[burnt bone]

But I’m so cool and sigma

[onyx sage]

it will drop with blue core by default so if you wanna get the "god roll" or run survivalist then you'll need to gamba

[burnt bone]

I like those odds 😤😤

[burnt bone]

I got the oppurtunistic alps with 1 good attribute 🙏🙏 now for the easy part (targeting FI)

[cold veldt]

Hiii
Soo I’m a returning player been like 5 years now and noticed alot of changes
Anyone got tips on what build to focus on as a solo player

[burnt bone]

I’m in the same boat, reading through the stuff that’s pinned here (division 2 gear speed sheet) helped me out a lot!

[pseudo belfry]

Any build recommendations for legendary content/missions?

[burnt bone]

There’s new player guides, what to do when you reach level 40, important gear sets to focus on

All around explanations of the game’s systems! Very useful stuff

[cold veldt]

Ah I’ll check it out for sure thanks

[gilded plover]

i am trying to build a bleed build and i cant see on the map where to find Ongoing Directive gearset

[burnt bone]

I think the general recommendation is to build a solid strikers battlegear set, so I’d give that a read as well 👍

[gilded plover]

is it a special drop

[burnt bone]

The easiest way will be to target it in countdown!

[gilded plover]

countdown?

[burnt bone]

It’s the nuclear power plant looking thing in the top right of your map

[cold veldt]

You have a link to the guids channel
I may be too blind 🤣

[burnt bone]

You click on it and press the button that says “select target loot”

[burnt bone]

Are you on iOS or computer

[cold veldt]

Ios

[gilded plover]

i will look now

thanx

[burnt bone]

@gilded plover then once you’re in the menu that has a lotttt of icons, look for and click on the ongoing directive one. Then when you launch countdown (preferably in challenging) your drops are way more likely to be OD!

@cold veldt click

Click

This guy :3

[gilded plover]

i am trying to see the drop down menu but let me have a closer look

[burnt bone]

Press g when hovering over/you have clicked the icon

Are you lvl 40

[gilded plover]

yes i am lvl 40

[cold veldt]

Thanks

[gilded plover]

i pressed g and there is only mission settings

nevermind found it

thanx

[burnt bone]

Sweet

Countdown on challenging can be kinda hard at first, but you won’t really be able to find a group at normal or hard (not may people run it at that difficulty) but stay near your team and play behind cover

And you’ll be fine :)

[gilded plover]

i am guessing i cant do challenging solo

let me see what happens

[burnt bone]

I think not

Just click the matchmake button, you’ll be invited to a group of 8 in like 10-15 seconds

[solar sable]

it's not that you can't but you do need to know what to do, plus it's not optimal

[burnt bone]

What’s even the build for solo countdown

I bet it’s smth super specific

[gilded plover]

I have click MM and no one home

[burnt bone]

Interesting, when I matchmake on challenging I get an invite right away

[simple harbor]

10 mil where ? on total mag ?

[gilded plover]

well i am solo

[burnt bone]

You get a little message that’s smth along the lines of “started countdown matchmaking” when you click the button?

[gilded plover]

and its hard

[onyx sage]

there are many to use during one run

[solar sable]

Map > Matchmake > Countdown > Challenging

[onyx sage]

burst dps, basically just damage per second ignoring reload

[gilded plover]

yes iam on that and you cant solo that

[solar sable]

Brother, Matchmake.

[simple harbor]

full charged with striker i presume

[gilded plover]

i have been for the past 2 mins

i have to stop it as i have stuff do to

did get my hands of 3 pieces

so i guess thats a win

[patent fossil]

target loot in the open world changes every day, but there's not enough different missions and named zones to show everything, so you can't guarantee it'll show up - that's why picking your own choice in countdown and retaliations are generally the best bet (also summit but the loot drop rate is lower there)

[gilded plover]

i kind of guessed that

i just didnt know about this powerplant thingy

will have to try later again

[shy willow]

Change it to challenging

There's always people running you'll match in a couple seconds

[gilded plover]

i was on challenging

[shy willow]

Are you doing Anderson manhunt

[gilded plover]

sorry was meant to say scout manhunt if thats what you mean

[shy willow]

Wrong one

[shy willow]

^ countdown is the one

Same location, different game mode

[gilded plover]

let me look again

yes its the general anderson

so thats the wrong one

[onyx sage]

yeah that's striker max stack

[burnt bone]

You want the one that’s specifically countdown, it’s a green symbol

[cold veldt]

Soo I was wondering
Are we not able to switch the attributes???
I have weapon handeling but I want it to be crit damage

[burnt bone]

There’s a good explanation in the lvl 40 starter guide in the gear spreadsheet

It’s on the hub page

[cold veldt]

It doesn’t work well on my phone 😂😅

[burnt bone]

Do you have the Google Docs and Google Sheets app downloaded? If you do, it should open up directly in those apps

[gilded plover]

this is the one that you are talking about

[cold veldt]

I had but the front sheet of when you open it is the only thing I am able to see

[burnt bone]

Yeah that, click start matchmaking and you should see a think that says “accept” or “decline” pop up in the bottom center of your screen (after 10 secs or so)

[gilded plover]

ok let me try and MM

[burnt bone]

Don’t see this stuff at the bottom?

[cold veldt]

Nope

[burnt bone]

Can you send a screenshot

[gilded plover]

well i got 3 players to join then they saw i had a low score and left

[burnt bone]

Try again, you should get a full team of 8 easily 👍

[gilded plover]

can you leave the countdown before the time ends?

nevermind i found it

[hexed steppe]

how is it that mortar build still carries the team, even with reanimated active 🤔

Mortar Supremacy

[strong cave]

whats hilarious is I just inspected you and said "he really loves that mortar build so much hes currently wearing it"

then the girlyfriend said "oh yeah, in build advice local just posted about it"

needless to say, this made my day 😂

[cold veldt]

Found it

[burnt bone]

Question about Scorpio, do I need individual shots to hit the different debuff tiers? Like I need a full mag + reload to get the damage vulnerability?

[strong cave]

each pellet is the duration of the status effects, and each shot (shot 4 and shot 6 apply confuse/shock) is a different status as listed in the talent. you will need to full reload for the damage debuff im pretty sure

scorpio holds 7+1 (1 being the chamber)

[burnt bone]

Oh I see, I missed the last paragraph

[strong cave]

yes. so basically shoot somebody twice with scorpio and it applies poison. shoot them 4 times, theyre disoriented, and so on

[burnt bone]

And so forth

[strong cave]

pretty much. counting shots with scorpio definitely helps with it but not really needed except for situations (boomer boss in DH and with my build I have posted as an example)

[burnt bone]

I was hoping I could get the final debuff without having to reload but I guess they thought that would be too strong 😔

[strong cave]

well, it used to be that way. until they nerfed it

which nobody asked for. still pissed about that

[hexed steppe]

fr, mortar is 😍 , mortar is life

[cold veldt]

Soo I’ve found it but it is all big talk for me 😅 don’t understand a single thing

I’m focusing on 1 loadout set with help of Countdown
But still don’t understand the ‘Changing Attributes’

[strong cave]

finally crafted this badboy last night. now I have 2 unicorn sets 💯

heartbreaker had to go. its just a worse striker

[magic pilot]

I think Fox>petrov

[hexed steppe]

nice

[strong cave]

can easily slap on fox's with it. i kept petrov for any pesky losers that sit in cover

not sure if fox's would apply to the ticks when theyre cover camping

[magic pilot]

I can test for you

[strong cave]

im not opposed to that

also, temu stack broker 💀

[solar sable]

I can't imagine a stack broker with RoF

[magic pilot]

How much WD, Chc, chd, hsd, dtooc, dta, TWD

@strong cave

[burnt bone]

You see gun with attribute you want, (like high crit damage) press M while in your inventory, click on library, and then go to the weapon category of the weapon with high crit damage

Click on it , click on attributes, and scroll down to crit damage

It’ll says extraction or improvement available, click on that

Then you hold whatever button it tells you to DESTROY the item

You can now put that attribute on other weapons of the same weapon type

[strong cave]

uhhhhhhhhh

yeah i got off 💀

just assume everything is maxed out with 0 expertise. everything is chc and chd. yes pesti has chc as 3rd attribute

[strong cave]

its the best ive got since they refuse to add stack broker to the items list that the hounds drop

i dont feel like dragging it between PVP and PVE characters either

[burnt bone]

Is stack broker rare?

And should I recal mine to ROF 👀

[solar sable]

it was a reward like Lexi when it came out

[strong cave]

you cant

[burnt bone]

Oh really is it stuck at dttooc

[strong cave]

and stack broker was an exclusive veterans reward that was given away fairly recently. cant obtain it as of right now. otherwise id farm for it

[burnt bone]

Huh I guess I count as a “veteran”

[strong cave]

they gave it to everyone who logged in during a specific time

[solar sable]

I got it on xbox and not pc bro 😭

[strong cave]

report it

[solar sable]

or at least that's what I think happened

[strong cave]

unless you missed the login window

[burnt bone]

I’ve heard it’s not worth running unless you’re doing a fulllll stack build like strikers chest 😔

[solar sable]

"Restart your game or your device and check your Stash Storage again"

[solar sable]

yup yup, no strikers/hb chest no need to prestack

[strong cave]

lefty with ROF and a ROF mod still goes further than Stack Broker due to having a damage source talent for the group

a perfect talent, at that

[burnt bone]

ah

Btw where do I see my repair skill percent? The guide says to stack it to 210 but I can’t find that as a stat anywhere. Do I just count it or smth

[strong cave]

there isnt one, not to my knowledge, you sadly have to math that out

[burnt bone]

Gotcha

Hmmm, I’m at 208.9

Guess I need the shd watch bonuses haha

[solar sable]

watch is... what? 20%?

[onyx sage]

ye

[burnt bone]

Oh fr I thought all the bonuses were 10%

Peak

Guess I’ll work on that after I finis haste

I’ve been lied to

:(

Skill duration goes to 20%

[solar sable]

sir, why did you lie

[onyx sage]

my elderly memory betrays me

[onyx sage]

some of them are 20%, some of them is called skill repair, some of them are 10%

[burnt bone]

Yeah I see

[onyx sage]

also fyi since you might be confused later, but repair skills and skill repair are the same stat

[burnt bone]

Yeah

[onyx sage]

and then you have total skill repair which is a different multiplier

[burnt bone]

What determines total skill repair

[onyx sage]

occurs in some places like hard wired, FI, kinetic momentum etc.

you know how you get total weapon damage from vigilance, obliterate etc.? it's the same situation, they are different multipliers from the "normal" ones

[burnt bone]

Oh cool

[onyx sage]

just read the talents and you will know

[burnt bone]

Sorry you lost me at “read”

[onyx sage]

mostly it comes from talents, it's why backpack and chest talents are too important to sacrifice for ninjabike and others

[solar sable]

lmao

[burnt bone]

So this is multiplicative to smth like +weapon damage on an armor piece

In the same way total skill repair would be multiplicative to +skill repair

[onyx sage]

yes

[burnt bone]

Sweet

[onyx sage]

in most games there aren't that many multipliers that saying some stat is "multiplicative" won't cause confusion. but in this game there are more than a handful

it's why we always say some stat is "additive to X stat"

because then you would know it would be multiplicative to everything else

[burnt bone]

I’m a Warframe player, I’m well versed in multiplicative and additive :)

[onyx sage]

i have to say it cuz people say it without understanding what they really mean, mostly when this is their first rpg

[solar sable]

is strikers an amp? 🤓

[onyx sage]

@fresh fox idk is it sir

[fresh fox]

yea

[burnt bone]

Ok wow the FI build is really strong

200mil healed, I wish it showed how much damage I amplified as well

[strong cave]

im ready for leggo now 🫡

[onyx sage]

idk if anyone mentioned this, but you have to keep the person healed to max for them to get the damage buff. it's not about your armor being max, it's theirs

if u know this already, ignore

[burnt bone]

Ok I was wondering if that’s how it worked

I tried to keep everyone healthy either way haha

[copper yarrow]

On a heartbreaker techtank build with memento, what should the other piece be between Equalize/closer/salvo or a HB chest with ceska piece somewhere else

[strong cave]

ceska is a must. heartbreaker is crit starved

[last kernel]

I run mine with heartbreaker chest and salvo. I run flatline and do fine

[copper yarrow]

cool cool

[copper yarrow]

How much CHC should I aim?

[last kernel]

50-55 is good enough for heartbreaker since ur not running talents like killer or obliterate

I use salvo makes it seems easier to stack heartbreaker since the ROF helps a lot

[strong cave]

id go for about 52-55% on heartbreaker

[copper yarrow]

51*93 gives the highest number for me

[strong cave]

perfect 💯

[magic pilot]

Swap the bp mod and glove roll for crit

[serene flare]

working with this Eclipse Protocol build rn
I have everything speced into Status Effects, but I'm wondering if I should swap any pieces over

[subtle bluff]

Try out killer instead and bump one more into CHC