td2-build-advice

[smoky latch]

I really hoped this would be fixed with today's update but RIP

[cobalt peak]

so if you DONT kill those grunts first and just shoot whatever is in sight, the exoticis basicaly not doing anything right?

[smoky latch]

Yeah just tag an enemy, leave it, kill the rest until the mark runs out or you kill the marked enemy

[versed summit]

Its just lower uptime.

[smoky latch]

Sry I was referring to Blacklisters

[cobalt peak]

sure but arent you better off with running something else or just a 4 piece + backpack and chest talent or something

like theres a point where even something as simple as coyotes is just better

if youre not actively chasing the hierarchy

[subtle bluff]

Again it makes up very quickly

[cobalt peak]

but how? there could be a grunt in the back of the map and as long as he is alive you arent getting a bonus

[versed summit]

IMO yeah. But the general consensus is what Chow is saying.

If you can deal with the ads effectively enough already, getting the amp from overdogs is an overall gain

[versed summit]

Even at 50% uptime it's still doing more than coyotes

[subtle bluff]

Incursion tanker is a great example of us not targeting for it and we're not proc off the chunga that we have to prioritize for but afterwards everything is dying so quickly any other items here doesn't make difference.

[versed summit]

Backfire already shreds everything there anyways ngl

[cobalt peak]

i love running backfire with HF man

its not the best but theres just something cozy about the staggers it does

[versed summit]

I hate it outside of incursion tbh. It needs sustained fights

[cobalt peak]

i mean with hunters fury youre kinda sustaining yourself already

[subtle bluff]

True! But it's just sooo fast now. It's where it's faster/easier to do DPS than HH on tanker.

[versed summit]

Was HH a thing without determined?

[cobalt peak]

i personally run hunters fury with equalizer + sokolov backpack with adren rush just for the initial push in

[versed summit]

Not that sustain. Long fights

[cobalt peak]

wait whys that?

[versed summit]

To keep backfire stacked

[subtle bluff]

No. It was always Determined HH.

[cobalt peak]

i mean fair but it doesnt feel like it has trouble stacking back up..

[versed summit]

If you're having to stack it every 30 seconds because you're on the move it's meh

[cobalt peak]

i mean, the stacks help as long as hteyre building up thou

like 100 stacks is ofc great but even at 25 or 50 its still helping a whole lot

[versed summit]

You're also slowed from moving by the bleed from stacking every time

[cobalt peak]

huh, cant say i ever noticed that

[versed summit]

Still better options at those stacks

[cobalt peak]

see i tried running that same seutp with memento, which felt nice, but the bonus armor from adren rush is so nice for hunters fury

cuz it buys you that little bit of time to get the first enemy down to start the chain

[versed summit]

Memento is too good IMO. The short buffs on pickup in cqc are just busted

[cobalt peak]

tbf it really depended on how my game flows the day

sometimes you just have htose days where you feel like you get beamed for no reason, thats when i prefer adren rush

the armor regen ofc is very nice to fight off backfire thou

[subtle bluff]

Chameleon is more fun to me than BF on HF

[cobalt peak]

isnt chameleon classed as an AR or am i just stupid?

nah it is

[versed summit]

It is

[cobalt peak]

also did they change something about ouro?

i swear it just doesnt feel the same

[versed summit]

It got nerfed a little over a year ago

[cobalt peak]

sounds about right, i stopped playing a lil over then

to be fair

for hf i also quite enjoy lady death.

since you needa get upclose and personal anyway

also since yall seem to know way more than i do

[subtle bluff]

It's easy to proc everything when there CC then you just go wild afterwards with big numbers.

[cobalt peak]

is the spas12 any good at all or?i love running it cuz i love the way the stock folds up but like

i used to run the named one along with an smg on my HF

[versed summit]

High base damage, not great dps

[cobalt peak]

oh nah it was mainly for just chonking either one or two targets or finishing something off

[smoky latch]

The named SPAS-12 is used for its perfect talent, outside of that I don't think it's that good

[cobalt peak]

main weapon was backfire or lady death

i also remember running a verison that used ridgeways + a sokolov backpack with wicked

but that didnt feel as good as obliterate + adrenaline rush

[versed summit]

Yeah it's worse

[cobalt peak]

the nice part about it was that i oculd use sadist lmao

cuz that 30% amplified was pretty spicy

[scenic whale]

If you’re talking about Thorn the named SPAS-12 for perfect Brazen that’s good, otherwise they get outperformed by KSGs pretty casually

[cobalt peak]

yeah thats the one

[scenic whale]

As for Sadist if you want to nowadays you got Tinkerer and On-going directive so Ridgeways Pride got phased out entirely

[versed summit]

Ksg is worse, just has a big mag

[cobalt peak]

oh nah i was talking specificaly for my hunters fury

since they somewhat work together as both require you to be withi n15 meters

[scenic whale]

Are KSGs worse than your average SPAS? I remember them also being doing consistently nicer since the bigger mag means you’d just get more kills by virtue of one pumping enemies either way

[cobalt peak]

i do know the spas only has magazine mods

[scenic whale]

If you’re in MP it might be different but KSGs slaps hard

[cobalt peak]

i was thinking about that new super 90 without dropoff but then realised i needa be withi n15 meters for HF anyway

scorpio with a strained smg ofc also is goated on HF

[scenic whale]

If you ever get your hands on a perfect hunter killer that’s also nice (perfect obli)

[smoky latch]

Hunter Killer has a different talent 😛

[versed summit]

Intimidate

[smoky latch]

Equalizer has Perfect Obliterate

[scenic whale]

Oh right intimidate ignore me

[cobalt peak]

yeah i got a perfect equilizer from buying one of the boxes from countdown lmao

[scenic whale]

Just woke up brain fart

[cobalt peak]

14.5% weapon, 6% crit chance, only had to add the crit damage

running it on my HF tempest build rn

memento, 4 hf, equilizer, gets me a comfy 5 red 2 blue 2 yellow with techy

then if i want to run pure HF i swap memento out for my sokolov pack with adren rush

[scenic whale]

Good times with the shield yeh, tempest strikers tech tank is mad chill

[cobalt peak]

see i was quite enjoying that

but i felt like i wasnt upkeeping stacks enough to make it worth it, while fury is just 20% for simply being near someone

[subtle bluff]

Ridgeway Tbh was never good. Before TU22 we used GC to get OD to be good.

[cobalt peak]

i rememebr veryyyy far back ridgeway + hf used to be quite decent, but that was mainly cause other options were alot worse

(compared to what they are now)

[scenic whale]

Tempest does take a good bit to get to max so it feels rough, but if you use primaries to stack first then go Tempest it upkeeps fine enough. That pistol has a high enough RPM to be at strikers recommended I think?

[cobalt peak]

that reminds me of the time when youd just stack adren rush with the chest talent that gave damage if you had bonus armor..

[subtle bluff]

I started around TU20 TU21 dunno

[cobalt peak]

oh yeah i just use lefty or rock and roll wit hit to insta-stack it

same way i used to stakc my heartbreakers lmao

[subtle bluff]

Tempest is only for fun. It's not good by any means.

[cobalt peak]

oh yeah im very aware

[subtle bluff]

Yee

[cobalt peak]

but having a pistol with the switch just feels.. fun.. for some reason

[subtle bluff]

Others debate that a lot.

[cobalt peak]

regulus would go way harder lmao

[scenic whale]

Ye won’t beat primaries by any means, just very solid brain off gameplay + a good sidearm if I’m not running Qstep

[cobalt peak]

or simply just dropping the big shield

like i said i used to run a slightly different version of htis with an exotic smg + sokolov backpack with adren rush and itd do wonders

[scenic whale]

Though Qstep also hits surprisingly hard for a pistol with essentially no damage talent

[cobalt peak]

scorpio + a good strained smg if im doing any harder content

[subtle bluff]

Try harder build but HFF is meta.

[subtle bluff]

It's Killer now. It's got a huge buff.

[cobalt peak]

sadly i missed out on that

[subtle bluff]

Killer is now 70 CHD

[cobalt peak]

what did? strained or scorpio?

[scenic whale]

Killer for weapon talents

[cobalt peak]

or am i missing something

oh crap i just read that

70% crit damage for 10 second on crit kill

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

[scenic whale]

Normal killer is 70 CHD on crit kill, perfect killer is 90. I just use Measured since I do a fair chunk of group stuff but it’s really good in solo

[cobalt peak]

streamline looked pretty sweet too but on my HF build i liked to run the banshee thing + self res

so itd barely if ever be active

[subtle bluff]

Depends on your CHD beforehand let's just say 120 when proc killer it's like 20% overall increase in brust dps.

[cobalt peak]

tbf i feel like they serve different purposes

killer is for clearing lota adds while strained feels more of a sustained damage typa thing

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the content.

But solo killer is hard to say no too.

[cobalt peak]

oh yeah def

countdown id run killer too

[subtle bluff]

It just does so much.

[cobalt peak]

if close and personal was just a tad longer range id be all over that for my HF build

[subtle bluff]

CD I wouldn't. That's where measured or strained would be used in.

[scenic whale]

I can never give up skills for streamline tbh. Streamline is also just weapon damage so it’s easier to say no to

[cobalt peak]

streamline?

[subtle bluff]

The weapon talent you mentioned..

[cobalt peak]

oh yeah, i see

i mean, on a shield + tech build itd be fine, as those rarely if ever should go on cooldown

[scenic whale]

Not that 42% is a slouch amount skills are just too fun (and good for that matter)

[cobalt peak]

since the shots fired by your hive from the hip dont actually count for cooldown

but if im running and gunning i prefer something like the banshee

did healer builds get any better recent or?

[scenic whale]

EMP sticky bomb never leaves my side, shits simply too goated

[cobalt peak]

dr home didnt really wow me back when it released so idk if healers got a good buff yet or what

[scenic whale]

You’re still an FI slave if you wanna be efficient but bittersweet is pretty fun

[cobalt peak]

yeah, i still got that set fully ready

along with uh

[scenic whale]

Nail 8 head shots shoot an ally restore from 0 to full with bonus armor (if they’re not running like 6 blues) and then for 10s you’re guaranteed head shots no matter where you hit

[cobalt peak]

i think scorpio + the one talent for more damagei fy ou shoot stuff with a shotgun

[scenic whale]

The 10s count towards getting your 8 back. Like 3-4 ish mil head shots with a crit set up. Nothing mind blowing but it’s good fun

[cobalt peak]

sadly, i have a skill issue with hitting headshots so.

[scenic whale]

You can also do Ikias red core measured assembly

It plays around hive + the bfb skill so it’s more variety

[subtle bluff]

Six12 got a nerf making scorpio more niche now.

[cobalt peak]

but yeah i got a perfectly rolled setup that i could afford to transfer to yellow

[subtle bluff]

Not that bad but it's DPS is sad.

[cobalt peak]

well sure but hte ide was that paired with setup you were actively assisting your team a whole bunch besides healing

oh nah it wouldnt be used for dps

but with setup youd make the enemies take another 15% more damage for everyone as long as you were peppering em with scorpio

[subtle bluff]

Like for one of the current solo heroic CD runs we were using it like you mentioned but then just a shotgun w/Brazen does more.

[cobalt peak]

and hten.. what did i use ontop of it? datagloves...?

[scenic whale]

That’s always the choice yeh, free team OC

[subtle bluff]

FI Build?

[cobalt peak]

yeah

[cobalt peak]

yeah thats it lmao

[scenic whale]

Opportunistic backpack, Data gloves then 4 piece with chest for that sweet team 25% TWD

or was it amplified for the 25

[subtle bluff]

It's easier than typing it all up

[cobalt peak]

sadl they screwed the lefty talent over so

[subtle bluff]

No that changed it

[cobalt peak]

well no but it now only takes 20% more damage from the applier

[subtle bluff]

It's fine now, just not as big.

[cobalt peak]

instead of 20% from anyone

[subtle bluff]

No they changed it back. Why it's up in the guide.

[scenic whale]

I’m pretty sure it’s 20% anyone isn’t it, I remember reading it on the sheet

[cobalt peak]

wuh, but, im staring at it rn.. did htey forget to change the descirption?

[subtle bluff]

Yes like a lot shit...

[cobalt peak]

like im looking at lefty on my screen RN and it still mentions "damage to armor from the agent that applied it"

then again they STILL havent changed the striker description to mention amplified.. like.. 2 years later?..

[subtle bluff]

There's Very detailed tickets they have but they won't fix them.

A lot of stuff.

[cobalt peak]

well, glad i kept it on, cuz thats nice

[scenic whale]

It’s like strikers, for the longest time I just went “ah it’s TWD” then someone points out far right side of the sheet it’s just another amplified source which

[cobalt peak]

main question is.. do i need to be HOLDING lefty for it to apply or can i just toss a nade with scorpio out?

[scenic whale]

Even better so I can’t complain

[subtle bluff]

Gudie go read it.

[scenic whale]

Holding lefty when the nade hits (fire nades are nice for this)

[cobalt peak]

it just says dealing damage with a nade 😭

[scenic whale]

As long as you’re holding lefty even if the flames licks them it counts

[subtle bluff]

I made the guide so I don't have to retype everything.

[cobalt peak]

ah you mean your tab

and yeahh, thats what i used to run basicaly

i remember using that exact build when people were helping me get ouro lmao

[subtle bluff]

The build hasn't changed forever.

[cobalt peak]

oh nah i just took a long ass break

like

i only came back this week since then

so theres things like this where the build is still exactly the same or theres a big chance ubisoft had completely screwed the build over

[foggy imp]

@subtle bluff since you posted that video of nego is that kind of the main set that really shines with blue screen. I know it can work with any weapon but just curious

[subtle bluff]

Yes.

That clip is Ceska GC and Overdogs

[foggy imp]

It was cool to watch, definitely am missing some of those skills tho tied through missions

[junior lagoon]

Build Component Description
Weapon Slot #1 Capacitor
Weapon Slot #2 M870 Shotgun with "Flatline" talent & Linked Laser Pointer
I was looking for a ninja backpack build and saw this pvp build. Is this any good? Not sure why using capacitor with only 3 skill. Any help is appreciated
Mask Blue Core Brazos with Crit Chance & Crit Damage
Backpack NinjaBike Messenger Backpack
Chest Red Core Fenris with Crit Chance & Crit Damage & "Unbreakable" talent
Gloves Blue Core Walker Harris with Crit Chance & Crit Damage
Holster Blue Core Picaro's Holster with Crit Chance or Crit Damage
Kneepads Blue Core Ceska with Crit Chance & Crit Damage

[solar sable]

ask these guys @magic pilot @strong cave for pvp advice ||lol||

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[junior lagoon]

Thank you posted there

[subtle bluff]

Also in the pinned message there is a link to 2 builder sites.

[foggy imp]

What’s the best way to get the capacitor? I’ve been doing exotic cache and farming countdown with assault target loot and have had zero luck

[strong cave]

Complete 5 summit challenges

[junior lagoon]

It will not drop until you do the summit challenge. Very easy at normal

[foggy imp]

@strong cave @junior lagoon thank you

[twilit verge]

How hard is it to get unit alloy bloodsucker

[subtle bluff]

Bloodsucker is a very over hyped content creator talent.

[solar sable]

may I ask why bloodsucker? what's the build?

[twilit verge]

It's for a battle striker build

[solar sable]

for a what

[twilit verge]

Solo play dps

[solar sable]

you're better off with memento strikers than that

like really, the difference is highly noticeable

[molten agate]

can anyone recommend me a backfire build for legendary?

[subtle bluff]

no

It's not great for leggo

A build won't carry you thru legendary

[solar sable]

"It's not about the car you drive, it's the driver driving the car that does the driving".

It is indeed right. The build isn't what's going to clear the legendary it's YOU the one who's gonna clear it. You don't need a specific build, although some do better under certain circumstances, to be able to reach your goal.

[molten agate]

i dont need a build to carry me in legendary i just need a backfire build that can do legendary aswell. im already doing legendary with other builds am just trying to make a new one

is hazard pro/elite pro the only option?

[solar sable]

^ he said this

[subtle bluff]

It's the same thing that striker chest isn't great for leggo

[solar sable]

Nothing will do good with backfire in legendary unless you get very close encounters like DUA bar room maybe, you can't make it shine on most leg content

[molten agate]

420 or 240?

[subtle bluff]

I only use BF with full Reds whenever I use it

otherwise it's not special.

[molten agate]

i see, all red striker with obli?

[subtle bluff]

That works

[solar sable]

if you know how to play with pgc use pgc instead (without backfire)

[molten agate]

what do you think of amor on kill chip?

[slate wedge]

in Legendary with Backfire?

[solar sable]

nah, not at all, I forgor to mention outside of close range encounters

[slate wedge]

Thank god lol

[solar sable]

yeah no I'm not that crazy lmao

or maybe I am
who knows

[subtle bluff]

GC sure not PGC with BF.

[solar sable]

please don't cross my comment mr. sir Chow I beg you

[grand girder]

yeah PGC is just too taxing, a palisade glass works wonders though

you replenish armor enough to sustain the bleed while full red

[solar sable]

palisade way better than hazpro or blues or whatever blue shit there exists

[buoyant perch]

https://youtu.be/y5BBWYjVpxo
4x striker, memento and improvised pfe. Backfire and acs12. Not full red world record but it's pretty fun.

Just go full CHC, CHD, you don't need haz pro

[slate wedge]

or just go gunner

[grand girder]

yeah it still isn't enough, palisade makes it 20% which allows survivability by killing a couple reds to compensate the bleeding

(this is for a full red build no pfe)

what I run, PGC just harms too much to be worth it for an extra 5% amp

[subtle bluff]

The event is gonna make to easier.

[long estuary]

Would this be considered a decent roll ?

[grand girder]

decent yes, because you're low level keep it until you get a better weapon but the ideal attribute would be damage to targets out of cover

[subtle bluff]

You'd wanted to extractor that WD to your librarry.

[maiden depot]

does turmoil or the backpack that spreads status effects spread the pestilence debuff?

[patent fossil]

Nope

[hazy steeple]

^Pestilence is not a Status

Yes the name is very confusing.

[mortal cloak]

i cant decide which one is better. i will use shroud when i find it.

[hazy steeple]

"here's a gun called burny fire hot ouch", it does cold damage".

[patent fossil]

And turmoil doesn't spread any 'on hit' type effects, just the damage

[strong cave]

What's better is not actually using the hotshot bag but instead using 3 piece hotshot and Airaldi bag with Vigi

Even if you went full unicorn red and did x2 Airaldi, x2 Habs, Chainkiller + ODogs, hotshot will still do better

[hexed steppe]

gd, how annoying it is to get into a group with determined users when youve sworn off using that trash . i currently just block determined users now , to hopefully limit the bs to few and far between.
unrelated to the above build, but amusing none the less

[strong cave]

I'm personally attacked 😂

[hexed steppe]

neither, use 1, drop hotshot bag for vigi and keep odogs when you get shroud

[strong cave]

Hotdogs 🌭

[hexed steppe]

its a rough life

[strong cave]

I'll still stick with my high end setup still knowing 3 piece hotshot is still better. We really need to give up gearsets for a while lol

Hairydogs on top 💯

[hexed steppe]

what i use

[strong cave]

I've recently replaced hotshot 4 piece build with breaking point just to see how it would work with HH. Needless to say, it felt like I was running aces and eights with optimist 💀

[hexed steppe]

mantis maxeds like 45 mil range, shroud in same spot like 80mil range

i would run hotshot if i wasnt planning on using the 1886 too

[strong cave]

Sounds right for my all high end setup. I'm just slightly under your numbers

Mantis I saw about 43.5m, shroud was about 78m and nemesis is around 68m

My build however has way more weapon handling than hotshot does

[hexed steppe]

could just be expertise, im sourcing from my highest wich is almost level 30 on those weapons. this is an alt and not quite those numbers either at 20

[strong cave]

Most of my testing was with non-expertise

[hexed steppe]

but i like the build enough to 4x it across the alts , so its local approved at least

[strong cave]

So the few million I'm off by is likely my expertise being 0

[hexed steppe]

could be

[strong cave]

Yeah see, id dupe my Hairydogs build over to my 2nd PvE char but uh... YEAH UNICORNS

I'm not chasing them again. I already caught the pricks once

[hexed steppe]

the breaking point is only 5%mmr damage less that hotshot, (25%mmr total), so either should be close... aces being 15% iirc

[magic pilot]

I run this with gift for the first shot dmg

But also because I main 1886 on that

[hexed steppe]

yeah its worth the trade if you dual wield for sure

[magic pilot]

I was just thinking about it, I wonder if we've always had a "glass cannon" meta because of berserk/clutch being the most op thing ever when the game launched

Nothing was ever really rebalanced from that

Red always = dead

[gloomy spruce]

Wow, does that mean that my crazy ideas might have won you over?

[hazy steeple]

Someone's been watching Fallout.

[runic rapids]

mines semi balanced. i was using skill tier stuff. but i moved to dps+regen+skill teir.

[cerulean smelt]

honestly doesn't look very syngergistic

[runic rapids]

i spent ages on a green set and maxing out the amour stats. but i was not hitting hard enough for it to really make it worth using long term.

[shy willow]

Even aside from the brand/attribute issues in terms of cores you always wanna learn into one

Trying to mix them is rarely beneficial

[cerulean smelt]

that's what armor builds does

[shy willow]

Gear set bonuses top out at 4 pieces

[cerulean smelt]

you shoot spit wads

[runic rapids]

yeah im kind of happy with the current set.

[solar sable]

6pc Gearset doesn't give you a "secret bonus". It's 4pc or nothing, sometimes 3pc is great but for certain Gearsets.

[shy willow]

I'm not sure how to start

[cerulean smelt]

don't maybe?

[runic rapids]

oh im using no more then 2 parts of any one set!

[cerulean smelt]

nerfing yourself 😹

[solar sable]

so why does that pic have 6pc HB?

[runic rapids]

i have mag size/wep damage/armour regen/swap on right now.

[cerulean smelt]

still shooting spit wads

[runic rapids]

that was my old set haha. i posted th e new set above that., this is the current one.

i need to find a set that im happy with all the buffs.

the healer dude always sits in my ss haha

[hexed steppe]

Hasn't figured out appearance mods and want to look as heartbreaking as possible

[solar sable]

my heart is broken from reading this 💔

[cerulean smelt]

well, Valentine's day is around the corner so maybe it's for that Valentine's day event

[runic rapids]

that and max armour from taht set but no fun bonuses haha

[hexed steppe]

Its 4pc or no pc, realistically

[solar sable]

want fun? use mortar supremacy©

[hexed steppe]

-# Mortar Supremacy

[runic rapids]

i should swap but i use the turret + drone soooo much i dont want to give it up. but i never use the sig weapon 🙁

[hexed steppe]

We need to fix your current setups before even considering mortar or youll end up having a bad run of it

[strong cave]

It's nice to see a fellow zomboid player finally join the world of division. Unlike zomboid, which is very easy to pick up, division requires a lot of critical thinking. It's also very math heavy. There isn't a very good tutorial either, so don't be too embarrassed if you're making mistakes along the way. We all started somewhere. What I would start off with, is like the other said, using six pieces of a gear set is pointless. You only need to use four to get the talents. Additionally, I am noticing that your attributes are everywhere. For a build focus around damage, you are going to want to focus your build around crit hit chance and critical hit damage. The critical hit chance is 60, so you want to get as close as that as possible. Afterwards you're going to stack on as much critical hit damage as you can. If you're not critting, you're not hitting. Unfortunately with this game, damage means everything.. usually

[hexed steppe]

The pinned sheet is a perfect place to start for new agents

[strong cave]

I saw your heartbreaker build wearing six pieces, you only needed four on those. Your critical hit chance and your critical hit damage is comically low, which could be due to many reasons, but the first reason being your attributes are everywhere. The second source is obviously your mod choices on your weapons and your third source for why your critical Hits are low is because of your watch bonus too. Also, just like local deck has said, check the pinned messages here in this channel for a spreadsheet. This is very helpful for brand new agents looking to make builds and get into the game quicker

[runic rapids]

yeah my watch is a mess. its mostly been what i figure would be best in the long run

[onyx sage]

your watch doesn't contribute that much and you'll get all of the stats in the end, they cap out at 999 shd

[strong cave]

I would recommend you start dumping in a critical hit chance, and then start dumping in a critical hit damage, and then leave off with weapon damage and then headshot damage

[strong cave]

With how hurt her builds are right now, and seeing her watch menu, her not having any critical hit chance benefits into that watch is definitely not making the game any easier for her

[hexed steppe]

Haste, hazpro, reload speed for other categories are good starts

[onyx sage]

i know, but it's not that impactful

most of the changes to make are on the gear pieces and gun mods

[strong cave]

It's not that impactful yeah, but having it definitely does help though

[onyx sage]

no need to make her feel regretful she invested the wrong things into the watch

also, just 56 shd, she has time

[strong cave]

When my girlfriend started out, I had her prioritize directly into critical hit chance, mainly because of the fact that I was helping her farm for Max roll pieces. I want the same direction that Emily did when I started out, so I can't judge her for going the way that she is

I would just recommend that she dumps into critical hit chance from this moment on, and the start fixing her builds to start working with critical hit chance and critical hit damage. The heartbreaker build is not bad actually, that's pretty good for solo players starting out. Just make sure the sub attributes are mainly critical hit chance and critical hit damage. Obviously remove two pieces from the heartbreaker build, I would recommend you remove the gloves and you remove the mask. Put a cheska mask on with all critical hits, and then we're overdogs exotic gloves if you have them

You'll have to ignore the fact that my typing is really bad right now because I am using speech to text

[hexed steppe]

The build stuff definitely doesnt hit home till one is working a bit within a community, unless they are familiar with the concepts of crit from other games

[runic rapids]

i need to find a gear set that i like haha. i like the lmg i have since it currently holds 300 rounds and does 100k+ a shot. so it melts hostiles, but i cant find a gear set that works with a secondary thats useful and works well with a turret+ drone.

[hexed steppe]

Start with striker

[strong cave]

I would rather break her in now, and be fairly black and white with her like the community is, and a respectful way of course. As opposed to others that have a tendency to baby the community and they tend to get misdirected at times

We all know who those content creators are that tend to baby the community LMAO

Like local said, Striker is a pretty good place to start. One of my first damage builds that got me directly into the division was Striker

[hexed steppe]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=sharing

[strong cave]

The build likely recommends coyote mask, which is pretty good for groups and solo. If you want the most dps, you will want overdogs exotic gloves

It's entirely your preference, both are good builds

[hexed steppe]

All the guides in the pinned sheet are linked to breakdowns like above

[runic rapids]

i have strikers and Coyote's Mask and Česká Výroba s.r.o stuff.

[hexed steppe]

Nice, that'll be stronger than hb

[strong cave]

I was about to say, if you have it why the hell aren't you using it LOL

[hexed steppe]

Note the attributes mentioned will be crit chance and crit damage. Its good with lmg

[strong cave]

Unless if you were just looking to Branch out and try other builds

[runic rapids]

should i pull the stats out of the hb set? there all pretty close to max or at max

[hazy steeple]

Gearset bits are much easier to get, If you've got a max stat, you might as well tear it out.

[runic rapids]

damn that mask has some crazy stats.

i never even looked at it. most of the other red stuff is junk

[magic pilot]

I'm a huge fallout fan

I've 100% fonv and fo4 and got super close on fo3

[hazy steeple]

oh same 100%. went as a vault dweller years back.
Would love a collab for div2, but there is like 0 chance of that ever happening.

[magic pilot]

I just recently started playing fo4 again on pc. First time since building a serious setup and I'm at 90+ mods 10 hours in lol

[junior lagoon]

Frenzy or Fast Hands for GR9 ?

[shy willow]

Thing has a 200 round mag fast hands would be a waste

Frenzy is pretty meta for it

[foggy imp]

Everyone says for coco to pre stack but every time I fast travel to safe house I lose it all so what’s the trick

[cerulean smelt]

don't travel to safehouse

[patent fossil]

I take it that 10 hours doesn't include all the time installing and configuring the mods to actually function correctly. It can be a whole game in itself with Bethseda titles.

[magic pilot]

Yea, does not lol

[hazy steeple]

Nexus app honestly takes most of the guesswork out of installing mods these days, highly recommend it.

[magic pilot]

I use vortex

[magic pilot]

I used to go with nexus, not sure why I use vortex now tbh.

[hazy steeple]

well to be fair, vortex is nexus's official app.

i just refer to it as nexus since thats what ive called the entire site forbasicallyever

[magic pilot]

Oh I didn't even realize Lmao

[copper yarrow]

Any tips pn how i can improve this build for Regulus please?

[solar sable]

I'd say run DCH but what content do you plan on playing?

[copper yarrow]

for everything Heroic

missions, CPs, open world

[molten agate]

what gives more dps on st elmo striker build? 2 unit alloy or 1 unit alloy and overdogs

[copper yarrow]

Overdogs if you prioritize targets

[solar sable]

I run this if I'm in the regulus mood but also if I wanna use 1886

I'd suggest HHF instead of HE

[cerulean smelt]

nods easier to build for

[copper yarrow]

couple of questions, why zwia over the IA pieces?

And why HHF instead of HE

[onyx sage]

hhf is more damage

zwia because rifle

[copper yarrow]

got it, I'll try HHF

[solar sable]

just remember that for HF to work you have to be within the range of what the talents desc says

[grand girder]

and most importantly, Have fun

[copper yarrow]

yea I need to get close anyway cause i cannot land HS from the reggie from far away lol

Also, for HHF what should the other 2 pieces be?

[grand girder]

chainkiller + gift

[onyx sage]

any vigi backpack is fine

[astral kraken]

pffft

[astral kraken]

you can also try run technician specialization and a bulwark shield. it's a great way to learn and it's pretty forgiving if you make mistakes.

especially for general play where you haven't memorized the exact spawns yet

[copper yarrow]

Got it.

[copper yarrow]

Pity that both the chest and bag of HF are bad so can't use overdogs or DCH with HHF

[astral kraken]

if solo you can definitely use dch/ovd with the backpack

and the backpack boosts range of your cc which is actually quite nice

memento is also really strong. there's a lot of variety to mess around with.

hhf starts to get really hard at 4 player scaling in general, even with an optimal setup

[copper yarrow]

Yeah I think memento will be good for solo especially, since I'll get tier 3 bulwark with technician

[onyx sage]

drawback of overdogs is you lose the very first shot damage out of combat compared to vigi

[copper yarrow]

Makes sense

Man Regulus is really fun, the blast is so satisfying

[onyx sage]

i love determined

[solar sable]

a "being" is missing somewhere

[astral kraken]

best gun in the game

it's fun finding places where you can wipe whole spawns

[copper yarrow]

YouTube creators can definitely steer new players the wrong way

Just now I was trying to search some more options for the Reggie on YT, and saw widdz post a NBB HF and IA build for reggie

[solar sable]

excellent thinking

[copper yarrow]

In another video I see tuxedo bandido say the HE variant is stronger than the HHF version lol

[subtle bluff]

Yes and no

[strong cave]

Claws out holster OR IA holster and take ODogs

[subtle bluff]

Also another thing above kind of mentioned The Gift/HSD brandset it should be D&H brandset if your focus is on Reggie.
Another thing this is most a Leggo content and not all the time Concussion talent

[runic rapids]

wait so if i have the demo loadout i cant use a second exotic item in my load out?

[strong cave]

Local said he blocks determined users

[subtle bluff]

imo DCH is better there for that first shot

[smoky latch]

Visual bug, it's due to Coyote's

[strong cave]

DCH is pretty good but for a full pistol focused build I wouldn't touch it. It would only be good once

Would get wayyyy more outta ODogs

[subtle bluff]

He's using it with Reggie

Yeah in place but other you're do enough to lower tier just fine.

It's if you have to hit the higher tier.. IDK i guess.

I don't use HE HH for reggie in PvE.

[strong cave]

Yah that is true. For me I tend to focus on weaker enemies with my pistol and if I need to do more damage I'll swap to my snipers

[subtle bluff]

Just one shot strats or speedruns.

[strong cave]

It's hands down my quickest build I have for heroic speed running

[copper yarrow]

So for HHF I need atleast one D&H piece

[subtle bluff]

BP

[smoky latch]

Out of curiosity, did you boost this character to level 30/40 you took the screenshot from?

[runic rapids]

no i did not.about 150~ hours on it now.

[smoky latch]

A'ight

[runic rapids]

im really not liking striker for pve vs my max armor heart breaker. having virtually 0 armour with striker is really messing with me since im so used to having a hell of a lot of it.

[smoky latch]

You'll get used to it. Use cover wisely and position yourself well

[subtle bluff]

If you're just trying to fact tank every bullet you'll always have issues.

The issues with "Max" armor builds is that you'll hit a wall where you're get overran.

There is a fine balance between it all but the in the end DPS needs to happen.

[runic rapids]

i may swap out some of the striker for regen haha

[subtle bluff]

I need to make a better clip for this but you can see in this clip I am not cover it's using it. aka using LoS

[subtle bluff]

Armor Regen Stats is trash.

[copper yarrow]

What's LoS

[subtle bluff]

Line of Sight

[copper yarrow]

Ah ty

[runic rapids]

99% of the deaths are becuase 0 armour regen means im down for like 4 seconds out of every minute to swap plates. and if i mess up the timing. its death. every time. not helping my self sitting on max diff. cant pull that off on striker.

[subtle bluff]

If you take the value of Armor Regen stats and compare to your total armor it's.... small...

If you're using amor kits that often tbh there's another issue.

[smoky latch]

Oh you are asking for DZ?

[solar sable]

I'm on the clear then

[runic rapids]

striker has no tank. hb has ~5m ehp haha thats why i keep getting in trouble.,

[subtle bluff]

Did you not watch my clip?

"tank" is a very loose term used too much imo.

If you're pic seeing that you're in the DZ is your content you're having issues with DZ/PvP, PvE or in general?

[runic rapids]

im not sure how your regening armour tbh. nothing in the suggested setup has regen. its all dps. but even in pve im getting wiped over and over at the moment.

[copper yarrow]

You need to try a striker techtank

[copper yarrow]

I started with that and when I learnt proper positioning I started to take off blue cores

[subtle bluff]

that's the build in the clip more or less.. no shield or rez hive

[runic rapids]

i need to go back to ffarming. im still missing one striker bit. and one glove.

[solar sable]

what the hellings

[subtle bluff]

that's not a good striker build first off

wait.. it's not striker build even..

[copper yarrow]

They're low level so I guess just starting off

[subtle bluff]

fact

[runic rapids]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0 it is. im using the guide everyone in here kept linking me. and picking up the parts.

[subtle bluff]

Start here.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tc2UDqrX0vBw-f18opih3idHlueXN7ca2HSEP_yAZDM/edit?tab=t.0

[solar sable]

yeah no, this one isnt optimal for general gameplay

too many stacks to build and maintain

[strong cave]

I mean, technically, if striker chest only increases the stacks to 200... Technically after 25 hits, it's better than oblit, no?

Because after 100 stacks, those stacks decay quicker

[kindred mango]

Most content you can’t keep them up that high hence the suggestion to switch the chest off

[strong cave]

Then again we have found striker proven to be an amp and not related to something like TWD

[strong cave]

I agree, but then again, even if you don't hit full stacks with it, it'll still be about the same as using ceska (I'm pretty sure) until x stacks

[patent fossil]

obliterate is TWD though so multiplies with striker stacks, you need well over 100 stacks to match obliterate with 100 striker stacks

[strong cave]

I figured that was the case

Now how many stacks is required to match oblit?

[patent fossil]

140 I think?

plus it effectively stacks faster with obliterate as you're stacking both simultaneously

[strong cave]

I mean, it's doable. Depends on who you're fighting really

[strong cave]

This is true that I do know bc TWD is a different damage pool VS striker

Obviously I say swap the chest off and use something else, but it depends on how many stacks is needed to match obliterate and it depends on who you're fighting. It is doable but it's still not exactly optimal

[subtle bluff]

I've always say 160 ish.. I never mathed... BRB

[solar sable]

stop him

[patent fossil]

if you make a habit of opening with an ACS-12 whenever your stacks are low it's very doable, personally I can rarely be bothered so just stick with obliterate most of the time

or glass cannon

[patent fossil]

2 * 1.2 = 2.4, isn't it that simple?

iirc it used to be 150 stacks (2.5) when obliterate maxed at 25%, but it got nerfed to 20%

this is assuming striker bag of course

[subtle bluff]

something like that, the other thought is how quickly you'd lose it after 100 stacks too

[patent fossil]

...oh but that got nerfed too, honestly I cba refiguring it, brain still stuck in old numbers

[subtle bluff]

Yaa that was the other thought too

so i think that's why I say around 160 ish.

more of the point is keeping it up.

[onyx sage]

striker obli with bp is either 2.28 or 2.356 for perfect obli

if i take perfect obli, it's 151 stacks, (2.356-1)/0.009 = 150.6666...

[subtle bluff]

I just need make graph...

[patent fossil]

yeah, or about 142 stacks for regular obliterate, so I wasn't far off after all

[strong cave]

Yeah at that rate you're above the 100 striker stacks threshold so you're losing what, 3 stacks a second?

If you're unable to upkeep by regularly using an ACS12 it's just not worth it

[subtle bluff]

-1 stack per Second 0-50 stacks
-2 stack per Second 50-100 stacks
-3 stacks per Second 100-200 stacks

[astral kraken]

gunner specialization gives 10% armor on kill

thats basically like regen and very powerful

[strong cave]

AoK is one of those good stats that's always helpful

[strong cave]

Do you know if palisades backpack is craftable?

[astral kraken]

idk but i remember trying to craft a palisades thing and it wasnt there

[solar sable]

yup

[strong cave]

Time to craft one for my shotgun build

Shouldn't be hard to get crit + bloodsucker

I need the armor core anyways

[astral kraken]

i think for palisades i was crafting holster/glove/knees since thats more interchangeable

[strong cave]

With ODogs I'd keep it at holster

Ceska + Grupo bags are solid slots same with chests. Rest is all what have you

Wouldn't do knees bc fox's prayer, holster is a good choice, and masks are meh now due to coyote being phased out

At least in PvE. Coyote is still very useful in pvp

[subtle bluff]

btw MG5 w/Killer BALLLS out.

[astral kraken]

who runs fox's anymore

[strong cave]

I still do tbh

Depends on the build

[astral kraken]

i deconstructed all of mine except the hsd one lol

[subtle bluff]

If there an extra Salvo wins now.

[strong cave]

I played pvp at one point so I keep my foxs

[astral kraken]

oh yea thats right pvp

[solar sable]

ew pvp

[strong cave]

Yeah I'm the player that does both forms of content lmao

[astral kraken]

buncha grieferz and cheaterz

[strong cave]

Your guys advice for PvE is always spot on but as soon as the convo goes to pvp it ends there 😂

[astral kraken]

YEP LOL

[solar sable]

idk what youre talking about 🙄

[astral kraken]

my brain too smol for pvp

[strong cave]

The new stuff is somewhat helpful for pvp. The new holster and brand and all that

It's just lukewarm most of the time. Which kinda sucks bc most of the new gear works great in PvE, as it should bc it's a PvE focused game. I just wish we had more stuff to use in pvp

[foggy imp]

For ND do you want to run the chest? Or just helm, backpack, holster and knee

[solar sable]

nah, I'd go Ceska Glass or PGC

[magic pilot]

ND backpack

Overdogs is too good on Nego to not use

[hearty owl]

#BuffNego

2026 please double transfer dmg from bag

thanks

[foggy imp]

Awesome going to give it a try instead of striker and tipping scale

Spray 3 people and then just pick them off?

[shy willow]

More or less, aim for the tankiest target

Mark more as needed

[hexed steppe]

pretty much, with overdogs just focus the lowest tier and transfer will be amped regardless if its transfering to high tiers

[shy willow]

Oh overdogs is the opposite I forgor

[hexed steppe]

its not something one needs to get too picky about tho, if the biggest threat is high tier might have to prio until its almost dead

im so used to transfer/shifting/marking that when i run non nego dps i still try and mark 😂

nothing ever feels as fast at melting

[foggy imp]

So the sets really good in groups but struggles with single damage like hunters?

[hexed steppe]

thats a fair assessment

target rich environments it thrives

i think some of the bosses dont accept transfer either like incursion but im not 100 which dont

[subtle bluff]

You right

[exotic tundra]

Am I tweaking or does cc not work properly

[subtle bluff]

as in?

[exotic tundra]

I could wipe out an entire control point in less than five minutes and only have like 3 stacks if im lucky

[willow tartan]

Anyone know how to get the chill out mask pls

[exotic tundra]

Loot goblin but during certain events

[hexed steppe]

seasonal item

[exotic tundra]

Christmas, halloween, valentines maybe

[hexed steppe]

so youre not critting properly?

cc is generally crowd control

chc is crit

[willow tartan]

Ok thank you

[magic pilot]

Manning WR is held with Nego

[magic pilot]

Can also use dead enemies that have armor or weakpoints

[magic pilot]

CoCo maybe?

[solar sable]

I was thinking the same

[hexed steppe]

need more context

[solar sable]

what is CC to you?

[hexed steppe]

will circle back when one gives some

[subtle bluff]

It's CC!!! 💀

[exotic tundra]

concentrated company

too lazy to write out the enture thing

[solar sable]

yeah no, CC is for Crowd Control
CoCo is for Concentrated Company

[magic pilot]

There's a visual bug with CoCo stacks

[solar sable]

Yup, you're still stacking but it doesn't show properly

[exotic tundra]

alr makes sense

[hexed steppe]

did you happen to change up and start using non damage skills? this can make a difference in stack building solo

[solar sable]

either way coco isn't really a solo gearset if that's your complain, you rely on teammates or skills as the gearset implies

although it can work with turret and drone

[solar sable]

oh, Chow, anything else you want me to add to that guide?

[exotic tundra]

i havent used skills too often on my coco build since im using a lud

[solar sable]

there's the issue

you're countering coco's talent by using Streamline

marks still apply if you're shooting them yeah but reread the talent, you'll see why you don't get as many stacks

[hexed steppe]

so each damage source can generate a stack per kill. so solo you can get 3 stacks, 12 kills to max out , no skills its 35 kills to max out

[solar sable]

and in most activities you don't get more than 30 enemies outside of missions or strongholds

[subtle bluff]

Idk

[hexed steppe]

convert to pesti/turret/drone and youll be cooking

[exotic tundra]

so getting rid of streamline for something like strained or killer and using drone

[exotic tundra]

what you said yeah

[solar sable]

sir

[hexed steppe]

pesti has good synergy with coco talent

[exotic tundra]

recently bought the exotic skin for the pesti so wouldn't to try it out ig

[subtle bluff]

I'm out. I'll think about it.

[uneven gyro]

Is there any techtank builds using shotguns over assault rifles because I don't really like assault rifles over my sweet dreams shotgun lol

[hexed steppe]

memento hunters fury, hf requires close range , and shotguns thrive at that range

[magic pilot]

Definitely

Hunters fury, memento, unit intimidate chest or glass/obliterate ideally. Firewall for the shield and then a sasg with brazen

Can go headshot too. Memento, chainkiller, firewall shield, m870 with brazen or thorn

Seeet dreams is not great

[hexed steppe]

im liking this with gift, ngl 🍻

i need a gift blueprint now tho. i only have a couple and theyre crit

[magic pilot]

Retaliations!

[hexed steppe]

welp, until then ill just have a couple rolled hsd and chd

who needs handling

[foggy imp]

Man this build seriously destroys everything 🫡

[silver whale]

Is heartbreaker the best gear rn? And countdown is the spot for it? Been a few years since I've last played

[subtle bluff]

No.
Spot?

[silver whale]

What's the best gear for dps?

[subtle bluff]

Striker

[copper yarrow]

I use the same with PGC, really helped me be aware of how to not get hit lol

[honest helm]

Been thinking about using iron lung recently for that cleaner fantasy.

Is Eclipse seeming to glitch a bit for anyone else? On my usual flame build it seems to not transfer at times even with enemies next to each other.

[subtle bluff]

You say glitch but the context isn't here for it. Matter of fact there more context would help.

[honest helm]

The spread of the flames on death inconsistently doesn't seem to be happening same with the vile mask DOT.

[subtle bluff]

This right?

Since again you're missing context...

The keyword is duration.

While Vile has a duration.

The Status Effect your using to spread from Iron Lung is very weak.

because you cannot scale it.

[honest helm]

Transmission isn't happening which is what I'm literally saying.

[honest helm]

Not even using that for flames.

[subtle bluff]

what are you using then for it to proc?

[honest helm]

Flame Sticky, and Flame Chem depending on crowd or single target.

4 piece EP with Vile Mask.

[subtle bluff]

I need a clip or something

[smoky latch]

Marks are bugged. You need to aim at the NPCs to check if they're under a status effect or not. It's fkn annoying...

[honest helm]

I'm not even getting damage at all let alone marks in some cases

[smoky latch]

You know that the damage at some point isn't displayed anymore?

This is what I mean

Bugged markers

Or maybe intentionally changed, Ubisoft support gave contradicting statements

[honest helm]

I'm talking about no damage at all. Like the transmission isn't happening even when two enemies are side by side.

[smoky latch]

Well then, I second what Chow said. Show a clip

[subtle bluff]

We really need a clip. To figure out what's going on.

[honest helm]

You need a clip to confirm if anyone else has seen it not transfer at all?

[subtle bluff]

I mean it works for us..

So we need to see what exactly is going on..

[smoky latch]

Record a short clip of what you think is wrong

[honest helm]

It happens randomly which is the problem.

[subtle bluff]

Missing context

Clip will help answer it...

I can do what I did above 100 times and it'll keep doing the same thing.

[honest helm]

That's wonderful for you.

[subtle bluff]

So it's not "giltch" till we see it.

[honest helm]

I'll see if I can hit the record button next time it randomly starts again.

[honest helm]

That's not how that works but okay

[smoky latch]

Here are ppl trying to help you but we need something that we work with. A mere description doesn't help solve it

[honest helm]

Like I said. Whatever. I'll try to get a clip whenever it happens again.

[smoky latch]

Record a gaming session and clip when it happens. Easiest way

[honest helm]

I'm not gonna do that for 6hrs while chatting away in a discord.

[smoky latch]

Bruh then nevermind 😬

[subtle bluff]

At this point.. We can't help you then.

[honest helm]

Obv

[subtle bluff]

Then what you want.

I mean I guessed we answer it. We don't get this glitch you have.

[honest helm]

I literally just asked if it happened to anyone else or if I just got a bug/glitch the last time I played with that build. The question was answered and I said what I'll try to do next time I run the build.

[subtle bluff]

Me and a few other that have speedrun using this build for a few hours haven't seen this issue.

[primal cave]

guys to get these rolls on this chest do i need it to drop with the 2 reds and the talent so i can re roll the core?

[patent fossil]

Yes. Although I thought CoCo had replaced the lengmo unicorn build as top option for pestilence

[strong cave]

Nah, you'd be surprised, it still hits hard depending on how you build it. Most have swapped to using ODogs on their build since coyote got phased out completely

I'm still hitting an easy 1m - 1.5m ticks without any effort involved

While coco top end does more, the unicorn Lengmo setup still holds up for ease of use

[patent fossil]

Ease of use but not ease of farming

[strong cave]

Now that is 100% true lol. It's funny how the harder to use build is the easiest to farm and the easiest build is the hardest to farm

[primal cave]

@patent fossil what does the CoCo build look like?

cause im trying to get this unicorn build and its super hard

[mighty bane]

Coming back from a long time of inactivity. No friends to play with. I seem to have run some sort of Scorpio Status effect build when I left. What is easiest to farm and get rolling now. Solo/PVE

[patent fossil]

Honestly I'm not up to date on it, just heard it mentioned. Check the pinned spreadsheet, it might well be amongst the build guides listed there

[patent fossil]

The default most people use for almost all content is striker - 4pc with a ceska obliterate chest or the new perfect obliterate one, and overdogs gloves

Memento (exotic backpack) is also a good choice for solo content, slightly lower damage but the regen is nice

[strong cave]

Mask/Holster/Backpack/Kneepads - CoCo

Chest - Ceska w/ Oblit or Glass (can use Equalizer or The Sacrifice)

Gloves -ODogs

Skill 1 - striker drone
Skill 2 - Turret or Revive hive
Specialist - Gunner

Everything will be CHC/CHD. Pesti w/ CHC as 3rd attribute will carry you up to maybe 30 ish percent. Up to you to find the rest of the CHC

[primal cave]

@strong cave cheers ill have a look

[subtle bluff]

Like mentioned above there's a full guide in the Build Hub

[glacial patio]

Would the proc effects from Bluescreen proc the galvanize backpack talent?

[hexed steppe]

an image of the build will probably answer a lot of questions too. if you are using a weak af version of eclipse, say solo, then you may not be dealing enough damage to kill someone. you should be able to replicate this in the range if its something that commonly happens to you, making it easy to clip. you can also turn on damage numbers in the chat (enter > combat > damage numbers) and youll get a damage readout for your benefit of testing. also useful to see if you make a clip.

towards your original comments:

• are you already using iron lung for this "cleaner fantasy"? if so, your weak iron lung fire will block the strong skill fire totally killing the builds effectiveness. use capacitor.
• vile dot doesnt spread if status doesnt spread. even if vile dot is what kills the npc. if the status has run out vile cant refresh. vile is a debuff and however long or short a status is, vile should always be 10 seconds as long as a status was applied somehow.

its also probably worth testing if this event that gives us 40% hazpro isnt also affecting npcs for some stupid reason. i only mention because when they buff weapons and such the npcs can be affected (project resolve, assault turret buff).

discord also has a buffer you can turn on to record the last 30sec using a hot key

[honest helm]

Even though we're way passed this and I'll stick to what I said I'll respond as easily as I can. Iron Long isn't used at all I was using Pyromaniac for the Cleaner weapon. As stated before things were dying from status effects and then the transmission effect would not kick in. Other NPCs would not take any status effects at all even within the range after one died.

[hexed steppe]

if pyro applies its status , its like fire ammo and will do the same thing. are you using ep bag?

for discord clipping

[grand girder]

people clip with discord?

what da hell

[hexed steppe]

lazy people like me

[honest helm]

Pyro was mostly my weapon to finish things off that didn't die. My applicator was usually fire chem launcher. As for the question yes.

[hexed steppe]

try with capacitor next time. trust. fire can dip into status and skill damage for its strength and cap can att up to 60% skill damage

turning on your damage numbers will let you see if you are witnissing a bug with the icons or it really just is not doing anything

[honest helm]

I have my damage numbers on already.

[placid cargo]

Just coming back to game after about a year off, any suggestions on decent solo builds, is HB still decent?

[glad heart]

Heartbreaker takes second place to Striker.

[placid cargo]

yea I know ive always liked HB though lol fits my playstyle

[glad heart]

Personally, I hated Heartbreaker...

[placid cargo]

striker always felt squishy to me

[glad heart]

It is squishy. But that is the price you pay for the highest single target DPS. Running Memento Backpack helps with that.

[placid cargo]

ok cool thanks

[junior lagoon]

I have a harmony rifle with damage to armor attribute should i change it to damage out of cover or rifle damage to 15 from 13. (Using it in mu turret drone build)

[hazy steeple]

@junior lagoon Don't bother using the Recalibration Slot to change the primary stat, unless your other 2 ones are ideal godrolls already.

[junior lagoon]

It has crtic chance 15 and damage to armor 6

[hazy steeple]

The first and middle stat on a gun are always the same, only the 3rd attribbute and Talent can be changed, unless it's a Named Item, of course. Then you can only change the 3rd Attribute Slot.
So in your case, you should change the 3rd attribute slot on the Harmony, and you can work on upgrading the other 2 stats.

[junior lagoon]

And change it to damage out of cover?

[hazy steeple]

It's pretty much the ideal 3rd attribute on every gun, yeah.
The only exception is LMG's, because they already have it. With those I recommend crit chance.

[junior lagoon]

Damage out of cover means enemies not in cover correct?

[hazy steeple]

It basically means any enemy that's not physically crouching against cover, in the animation.

[junior lagoon]

Thank you

[hazy steeple]

Effectively, it's the ideal stat since there's so few sources of it, so it's just a darn good buff.

gl Agent, happy farming

[slate wedge]

i let OBS run the whole time while i play

[tulip sequoia]

Hello there, would this be good build or straight up trash and waste of time farming

[foggy imp]

Any good weapons or gear sets that pair well with the ridgeway pride chest

[grand girder]

also it seems like its a bluecore backfire striker build, was good during a modifier a couple seasons ago but would be pretty meh at this point

[molten agate]

guys what weapon do u use on haz por all blue tank build? is backfire good to use on all blue build?

[grand girder]

nbb is just a noob trap and the yaahl piece might be hard for you to acquire

[grand girder]

I think the real question is why are you running a all blue hazpro build tbh

[molten agate]

very good question. i dont know as well

should i go striker 420 if i wanna use backfire?

[grand girder]

you could just run a memento hybrid with a shield to get more red cores for extra dps

[runic rapids]

what is the best lmg for use with striker?

[grand girder]

its been a minute but the 4 would be reds right?

or is it blue core

[tulip sequoia]

😂 I see it now, sorry. Yes its blue core striker with haz prot on everything. I got yaahl only need česka and striker. I am running it now during event (ofc only with 1 hazpro) and though about making hazpro after event and season ends. Just for fun.

[molten agate]

4 red 2 blue / btw i usually play in groiup, is memento still good in group play?

[grand girder]

iron lung exotic, gr9 with frenzy talent would be your best bets

[vital notch]

Whats the best pvp build currently? Also can someone help me figure out some new builds to grind for, currently nearly got a perfect Crit build

[runic rapids]

also learned you can not use the m32 thing if you want to use an exotic weapon 🙁 it locks it out.

same with gear. only the mask.

[grand girder]

the specialist weapon? you definitely can

[runic rapids]

so i have the normal gold iron lung i think at the moment. i cant equip any exotics with it for some reason. others said your suposed to be able to yeah

[grand girder]

iron lung is an exotic weapon so if its equipped you cant use another one in the 2nd slot or pistol slot

[runic rapids]

oh i have quiet roar atm. not the other one.

[grand girder]

can you screenshot the whole build instead of individual? should be able to solve why you cant equip a exotic

[runic rapids]

wait is bluescreen better?

[grand girder]

so you cannot equip a exotic weapon right? or was it just with the ninja kneepads because it makes sense with kneepads because of coyotes mask

[runic rapids]

weapon. unequiping the side arm fixed it? i guess because its a role weapon as well?

[slate wedge]

probably umbra capacitor

[runic rapids]

i guess that does answer that.

[foggy imp]

Anyone have a strong ridgeway pride build they can show off. Thought about using that with a Ceska backpack with wicked and the Lexington with sadist

[slate wedge]

yeah that would probably be a good build, the other 4 pieces are very much up to you

[ripe bronze]

first time playing again in like 5 years. is still a decent loadout ?

[vital notch]

Never heard of this... do you have a pic?

[solar sable]

Would suggest this and the Overdogs gloves version for the current "meta"

[ripe bronze]

its been so long ago since i played this game. i forgot everything lmao

[solar sable]

There's a PvP guide in the pinned Spreadsheet

[magic pilot]

#td2-pvp-discussions message

[slate wedge]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/pFooyLao

[molten agate]

how many red would u take for typical backfire striker build(no memento)? im thinking of 4 striker, overdogs, 1 unit alloy

[solar sable]

6 red no blues at all, but you can try 2/4 or 3/3 although the dmg reduction will be highly noticeable

[molten agate]

crit chips as well?

[solar sable]

chips?

[molten agate]

attribute, mb

[solar sable]

all crits is ideal

[molten agate]

what do you think of putting 3 PFE?

[solar sable]

I mean you can use them

[molten agate]

should prob look like this and put blue or no blue depends on my play style. right?

[winter warren]

can anyone link me the striker build just hit 40 and need to know what to tl in countdown

[molten agate]

exactly what u see above but all crit chance/dmg

[winter warren]

what gun is it tho ?

[molten agate]

st elmo (assult rifle) is gonna be ur prio

[winter warren]

should i tl it ?

[molten agate]

tl striker first. any smg assult rifle or lmg weapons with "damage out of cover" will do good on it

after you finish witjh your striker set, its gonna be ideal for you to tl assult rifle for st elmo (whisch is exotic)

you can use any alt gear for gloves (i think its exclusive to control point / retaliation reward)

[solar sable]

not necessarily

you get the crafting blueprint from Hyena Retaliations and you can also get the gloves themselves in the general loot pool

Chow is working on a Beginner guide for those who are looking to get involved in the endgame

[silent storm]

I thought St. Elmo was crafted only not lootable

[strong cave]

It's lootable

[solar sable]

Are you for real? ...

[runic rapids]

wheres the strikers guide thing

[solar sable]

pinned Spreadsheet

[runic rapids]

def not the one

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=drivesdk

[runic rapids]

thats the one thanks.

[magic pilot]

That's in the pinned spreadsheet btw

[small junco]

There are two links in that pinned post - the second one is the build guide.

[subtle bluff]

The I started to update and then just stopped...

[silent storm]

Yeah I crafted mine and never had it drop anywhere

[subtle bluff]

New players being able craft how nice. Elmo was my last exo that I looted out of everythying almost a 5 months it took me to get it.

[silent storm]

If it makes you feel better I still don't have a Ravenous

I would really like that gun to put on my Aces and Eights build

[subtle bluff]

meh I can count on 2 hands how many times I've used that. You're not missing out.

[broken edge]

Some people like collecting odd pieces, like me

[cerulean smelt]

you and odd pieces? gasps

<=want to make an all red skill healing/headshot build for Bitter Sweet 😹

[broken edge]

Bitter sweet should be fun with aces

Considering you probably get double cards when the headshot talent procs

[cerulean smelt]

i honestly forget aces exists 😹

[silent storm]

I have been having lots of fun with Aces

Why is UIC15 MOD2 the best Rifle and I love how big the mag is

I have been trying other Rifles with the build but man UIC just smacks on Aces

Fully ramped UIC with Rifleman and Aces hitting for over 4 mil a shot kinda crazy when the mobs let me just free fire

Gonna try Bittersweet and see how it performs. Should I just stay all red or throw some repair mods on?

[silent storm]

So Bittersweet hits like a damned truck

18 mil healing as well lol

[runic rapids]

what do people suggest as a side arm for striker?

[solar sable]

quickstep is the current meta

[primal cave]

guys will this be okay even tho i dont have the red cores?

[magic pilot]

kard with sledge or quickstep

[magic pilot]

not having red cores will really hurt your pesti ticks

id at least get the mask

[primal cave]

ill keep farming for all the reds they are so hard to get

[magic pilot]

are you on rn?

[primal cave]

yeh

@magic pilot

[magic pilot]

/invite prodigyreflexz

ill help you farm

[solar sable]

space for one more?

[primal cave]

join if u like

[solar sable]

ill help too

[magic pilot]

ofc

[magic pilot]

@primal cave add me on ubi so i can invite

[subtle bluff]

The 3 are, Sidestep, TDI w/Sledge and Orbit.

[woeful zodiac]

Sidestep 😭

[subtle bluff]

Bleh.. Quickstep

[hexed steppe]

Retals?

[onyx sage]

retals?

[magic pilot]

countdown, they might keep running but im hoping off

[hexed steppe]

all good

[molten agate]

what do u think, is the best solo build for general pve content?

[subtle bluff]

HF or Striker

[strong cave]

Striker

[meager fog]

Strikers, Nego, HF....depends on the person more than anything.

[vital notch]

Whats one of the best pve builds?

[strong cave]

^

[vital notch]

So this build?

Just feels like it lacks a little

[shy willow]

In what department😭

[vital notch]

Like Heroic and higher difficulty

[shy willow]

In any case you'd be better off with overdogs in your glove slot or UA/ceska

[shy willow]

Heroic and higher is where it's most effective

[vital notch]

Been trying to farm those for ages

[shy willow]

Striker gets stronger the tankier your targets are

[strong cave]

And obviously the better your stats get

[shy willow]

Ah yeah no watch bonuses yet

Missing out on a chunk of damage

[strong cave]

A good bit for sure. Not too much but it is noticeable

[woeful zodiac]

Use Stack Broker

[strong cave]

And if they're so new they don't have it?

[vital notch]

Whats that?

[strong cave]

SHD 67 means bro downloaded the game maybe 3 weeks ago and played maybe 40h of it

[hexed steppe]

Elmo should be more than enough to stack striker 100

And dude already has acs, stack broker isnt gonna make much of a difference

[vital notch]

Only started like 4 days ago

[hexed steppe]

Is it even available right now? Stack broker

[strong cave]

@vital notch Damn, that's good progress. Assuming you've played it for a good 5-7 hours for the last 4 days. And @hexed steppe I'm 99.99% sure the window ended beginning January. It's now February

Wrong f-- person. I hate discord

Feel free to do a quick AI Google search to correct me, I could be wrong. I just remember the devs said the broker reward window is even slimmer than Lex's was

[vital notch]

Would that gun change the build a lot?

[hazy steeple]

Do not use AI to find answers about div2.

that is terrible advice.

[strong cave]

😂 "hey Alexa,"

Yeah no don't use AI to actually search for div 2 info. I said it as a joke since nearly half of all Google searches are AI done anyway

[hexed steppe]

No. Your lefty is just about the same thing. The other was being suggested for the same stacking role

[strong cave]

The only thing special about the stack broker is that it shoots slightly faster and does slightly less damage, only meaning that you build stacks quicker

You're already building stacks at a quick enough rate anyways that a lefty or a normal ACS with fast hands will still do the job efficiently

[hexed steppe]

Funny enough acs wont build oblit stacks the same way.. itll be per shot, not pellet on oblit... assuming every shot crits.

Just stack with elmo

[woeful zodiac]

Mb

[foggy imp]

For running master difficulty would it be better to run the striker chest along with momento or a Ceska chest with intimidate for the higher amp damage when you have armor

[strong cave]

I'd say striker chest on this one

Intimidate locks you to close range and being close range to certain enemies can be bad

[rotund pewter]

Im not sure how viable at a lower level but I changed my strikers to have 2 armor cores that way I have way more survivability with the added armor and a stronger shield, and the dmg loss is fairly negligable because of the strikers buff

But I also use 2 UA peices so I get the extra 20% ar dmg

[versed summit]

combined with the shield it can be nice for the added survivability, you can get away with the damage loss solo, but it hurts more as group sacaling goes up.

[foggy imp]

Thank you

[astral kraken]

Depends on the mission. There are parts where chest is good and parts where it’s bad. Generally no you don’t want chest.

Obliterate is usually a better pick for mission stuff including legendary.

[rotund pewter]

Oh yea for sure thats more my solo build

[astral kraken]

Intimidate is pretty much never the pick for harder difficulties unless you’re slumming it with blue cores.

[versed summit]

and probably a shotgun

[astral kraken]

Try the same with memento and one blue core on your striker. It’s a great all around combo all the way into solo legendary.

Same basic idea as what you’re doing but more benefits.

[rotund pewter]

Is memento worth it for the bag loss

I always have a hard time seeing the benefit of memento

I mean I get the 15% back

[astral kraken]

Yep. It’s the long term buffs.

No striker bag is more damage. But you’re getting a lot for that trade that makes it worth. 2 shield tiers, and armor regen is really good.

Oh and the skill efficiency is nice

[misty walrus]

please, any suggestion or constructive criticism for this solo pve?

[rotund pewter]

Yea that would be 3 for shield instead of 2

with an extra armor core

[astral kraken]

Swap salvo for a UA holster. And work on dropping blue cores until you’re red only. You also don’t need ACS - try an SMG with Unwavering.

[rotund pewter]

I actually use salvo as well

[astral kraken]

Otherwise you’re golden tbh.

[rotund pewter]

gets the shock ammo faster

[astral kraken]

More damage better

[rotund pewter]

Still sitting st 60% chc and 130%chd

[primal cave]

guys i don't have turmoil are these knee pads fine or is there anything else i can get?

[scenic whale]

No turmoil is fine, ideally you don’t even really want Turmoil since it splits your bullet damage in half.

[primal cave]

oh cool so these knee pads are fine?

[scenic whale]

Yeah, if you got crit hit chance and crit hit damage on em they’ll do great

[primal cave]

goood stuff ty!

[timid plume]

is the quick-step still available in game?

[scenic whale]

You’d need to find someone with the houndsman bounty and ask them to start one for you. The mini hounds have started dropping loot again so it should be a quick trip

[foggy imp]

May I ask why drop the acs. Isn’t that usually always recommended since you get max stacks so fast.

[astral kraken]

If you're not running striker chest then you can build stacks just fine with your AR.

It's more beneficial to run a secondary that'll help you in oh-shit moments or to deal with specific types of threats.

That's what an SMG with Unwavering can do for you. The talent gives near instant reload times and perfect accuracy/stability for a short period of time.

So you can pull it out for quick spawn wipes or if you're in big trouble.

[foggy imp]

Damn lol I can’t tell in the video but what’s your smg choice or kind of anything to your liking

[astral kraken]

SMG-9 is the best pick right now (not the A2 version)

But you can also do a Tac Vector 9mm

[foggy imp]

I’ll have to check my stash but only think I have a max cmg banshee and the dark winter

[astral kraken]

Another thing you can do is replace Elmo with a Lexington or Famas that has the Killer talent. Then as your secondary use an Iron Lung LMG.

[foggy imp]

Now that I can go with. Iron lung has been my favorite lately.

[astral kraken]

Iron Lung is really good as a primary too. If you use it as a secondary it's good for setting enemies on fire that are stubbornly tucked into cover and keep getting suppressed

But then you can't use a shield so that's your tradeoff

[foggy imp]

What I’ve been running this past week

[astral kraken]

Yep that's really good

[foggy imp]

Going to try and swap that stack broker tho for the smg 9

[astral kraken]

Try ceska with glass cannon too. You're already squishy so tactics won't need to change

You'll feel the damage difference

[foggy imp]

Usually if I go glass cannon I do the one that has perfect glass cannon for the chest

[astral kraken]

That works too but ceska is 1.5% more burst DPS if you're not headshotting

For sacrifice chest to win you need at least a 20% headshot rate

And obviously if you're shooting something without a head the headshot rate is 0%

So ceska glass ends up being a little more consistent. But the difference is minor.

@foggy imp Your choices are really good btw. If you get into harder content then overdogs will off a bit. This is something I think you'll enjoy running.

It's one of the best DPS setups for harder stuff, with a bit of a learning curve.

[foggy imp]

I actually ran that for a few runs in heroic countdown with the iron lung but definitely need to get better at positioning

[astral kraken]

(just swap killer for measured in group play)

[onyx sage]

🅱️egotiator's 🅱️ilemma

[astral kraken]

zealot

[hazy steeple]

you got a cold?

[foggy imp]

Only at 16 expetise but definitely felt like the striker chest with the Ceska holster held a little better for me in heroic countdown over that but probably cause I kept getting shot and losing that 25% vigilance buff @astral kraken

[astral kraken]

well countdown is a bit different. there are places where striker chest is very strong and countdown is one of them.

incursion is another one

[foggy imp]

I usually swap between the iron lung; Elmo and the Lexington. Don’t really touch many other weapons

[astral kraken]

based agent

next step is backfire

then, when you think you've peaked, negotiator's dilemma

then you beat the game

[foggy imp]

I love and hate the backfire. Used to use it but didn’t like really going into hazard protection and got mad when I would have a little bit of health and the bleed would finish me off lol

[astral kraken]

nah with backfire you wanna go all red and kill so much that gunner aok counters the bleed

there are certain guns in the game that can do things no other gun can do

backfire, regulus, iron lung

[foggy imp]

So basically run the build I sent but swap iron lung for backfire and ceska for the sokolov?

[foggy imp]

Could give backfire another whirl; I was running it with 2 blue cores and the momento

[astral kraken]

these are the 2 variants i run

use the 100 stack version when you can't keep up 200 stacks

[foggy imp]

Both high ends Ceska?

[astral kraken]

if you check my profile i have a solo capitol run with backfire. for the first half i used the 100 stack version and the second half i switched to the 200 stack version.

nah those are UA not ceska

[foggy imp]

I will give that build a try and report back lol

[astral kraken]

it really shines when you know the spawns and go in with a plan

for general play it's pretty bad

if you keep hitting targets, after your 3rd reload you are bleed immune

[foggy imp]

I mainly just do countdown. The most fun to me; open world I’ve done it for so long I tend to get bored quick.

[astral kraken]

yea it'll do great in countdown

[foggy imp]

I’ll give that a try. Still have the salvo so I’ll need to get a holster without the rate of fire

[astral kraken]

it'll suck a little bit in cooling tower because you do more running than shooting

and sometimes the spawns are opposite of each other

[astral kraken]

time to solo legendary sir. you have all the right builds.

[foggy imp]

Yeah I need to practice. But I’ll get there. Tried to solo the pact mission and I got obliterated lol

But that was also when I had zero expertise so I’ve come a bit of a way from then

[astral kraken]

that one is actually hard af without modifiers

harder than legendary imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKjHJbAe2oc

one day you'll be average too

[onyx sage]

🧐

[foggy imp]

I actually was doing pretty good when I was using the backfire but I kept failing in the second area because they kept destroying the computer before I could kill them fast enough.

[astral kraken]

oh you're talking about the manager

[foggy imp]

Yeah he’s above average. Watching his videos actually got me to get rid of the blue screen and that’s when I fell in love with the iron lung

[onyx sage]

isn't that the manager?

[foggy imp]

Yeah it is sorry I messed up the mission name

[astral kraken]

the sniper is what usually causes the fail

everything else kills the box more slowly

but sniper will nuke that thing in a few shots

that part is really hard tho for sure

[foggy imp]

But I’m about to start some heroic countdown with that first backfire picture. Going to see how I do. I usually do really good but at the end when all the elites are kind of far I struggle with.

I appreciate all your help and advice @astral kraken

[astral kraken]

np. gl!

[foggy imp]

Also that video you posted of average. The build swaps are crazy lol so much practice

[misty walrus]

Salvo is also UA brand, it could work with the equaliser. I used to go full red, but would lose armor bars to quick with a hyana rusher or trueson turret

[astral kraken]

the rof from salvo isn't worth the crit loss

[magic pilot]

regular unit is better

[strong cave]

Crit chance? Or damage? Depending how you build it of course

[strong cave]

True son turrets are a bit bugged and seem to deal significantly more damage than they used to

[onyx sage]

either

[strong cave]

I'd rather take a slight CHD loss if it means my ROF is quicker. I keep my salvo rolled to CHC

[onyx sage]

i mean if dps is lower then /shrug

[strong cave]

I don't use either in PvE except high end builds