td2-pvp-discussions

[mossy solstice]

I run Ouro, and of course I'm using unbreakable

Depending on their armor bar, you'll have to gauge the fight

[cloud epoch]

I was meaning talent on gun but I was gonna ask if I should keep unbreakable

[mossy solstice]

Unbreakable is a must on sys due to TTK being super low

[cloud epoch]

What’s best way to get ouro?

[mossy solstice]

Incursion

[cloud epoch]

Ah okay

I will have to do some research as I don’t mess with that atm

[mossy solstice]

You can go Ceska unbreakable + coyote and take iron lung

[cloud epoch]

Don’t have iron lung lol

[mossy solstice]

4/2 setup to be annoying and harder to kill, 3/3 if you like doing a bit more damage

[cloud epoch]

Alright thank you

Gonna look into incursion, I’ve ran it once but Yh

[mossy solstice]

I got you. Always happy to help fellow sys users. It's a fun set but stupid hard to make work especially TTK being super low on more optimal builds

Incursion is really easy tbh. GC Rock discord could easily have you with an Ouro if you find the right groups to teach you

SMGs are in a poor spot in pvp but if you can strafe good and hit your shots they're good for burst on Sys

[cloud epoch]

It would be nice to see a buff but let’s be real even the devs have forgotten it exist lol

[cloud epoch]

Who sorry ?

[mossy solstice]

It only gets 20% amp which is terrible. You'd think with the backpack it would give you more 💀

[cloud epoch]

Yhh but it is what it is I guess

[mossy solstice]

GCRock, Ubisoft creator that hosts a discord for raids/incursion looking for groups

They're active daily with thousands of players on all 3 platforms

[cloud epoch]

Alrighty thank you , would you suggest a striker build for it ?

[mossy solstice]

100% striker is required

You can get some speedy clear times if you use backfire as well. I'm sure there's simple guides on YT all over that shows you how to do it

You'd have to run it with a group to see what it's all about. Super fun

[cloud epoch]

Cool cool, I’ve got builds for both of those so wicked

[mossy solstice]

If you got the striker chest, the Wright boss fight with backfire is so fun. Speedrunners use it as full red because stacking is easy on Incursion

[cloud epoch]

Found the server

[mossy solstice]

Yup super super easy, Skillz has a tutorial up on YT as well:

https://youtu.be/dSBWk52xvio?si=-Sp0BHqIyHkFzzmq

Snag the correct roles in GC Rock, like PlayStation, and you'll gain access to LFG channels with other people

[lavish basin]

@outer umbra sorry but as stated in #rules 12, we don't allow shaming/witchhunting on this server. Please report all cheaters through the correct channels, no-one here is able to take action against them directly.

[outer umbra]

No problem, I even apologize, but I wasn't exposing anyone, I came to file a complaint. What would be the correct channels?

[lavish basin]

http://support.ubi.com/ has a 'report a player' option

[modern gull]

why do people use bighorn with umbra again?

[tawdry pier]

Haha funny rpm

[rancid pewter]

rpm to head. faster TTK

[iron topaz]

Finished off The Bighorn #td2-build-advice message over the weekend. So what is the best PvP build for it?

[modern gull]

something like this then?
just a whole bunch of chc to reach 60+ for conflict ig

[rancid pewter]

Idk. I didn't use bighorn builds at all 😂

[rancid pewter]

Headshot armor Regen

[modern gull]

i just kind of tossed it on a standard umbra capacitor setup and changed some of the attributes around lol, probably not the best thing to do

[rancid pewter]

A lot of people use the bighorn for headshot builds since it does more damage than crits.

[modern gull]

ye ik about bighorn armor regen stuff

[rancid pewter]

The only issue is learning how to aim for heads only. Shouldn't be an issue if you're a pc player

[modern gull]

hmmm this is probably better now that i'm thinking about it

for bighorn umbra that is

the only umbra setup i use though is with capacitor and even then i don’t find it fun

[sinful grotto]

Anyone know if tempest got patched?

[modern gull]

hmm how many reds and blues should i go for with this?

[rancid pewter]

yes

and im glad it was. you know how annoying it was!?

[modern gull]

huh

[sinful grotto]

Very annoying

[fossil portal]

Genuinely the second person I’ve ever seen get an eagle bearer on dz

[mossy solstice]

Damn dude that could've been mine had I had any desire to farm the DZ let alone stay connected for more than 10 minutes

Congrats on the drop 😄 now go for ravenous and bighorn

[modern gull]

already got ravenous and bighorn from the dz last year

[mossy solstice]

damn 😔 i still need EB to drop to check off my bucket list. we should link up and farm some time

[modern gull]

perhaps, i’m somehow pretty lucky all things considered

[mossy solstice]

i had ravvy and BH drop 36h apart so all things considering, pretty damn lucky

[amber needle]

Is there some kinda trick or do i just have bad luck? Every time i get a rare exotic drop from the DZ its just Persistence 80% of the time and the other 20% of the time its the messenger knee pads 😂😂😂

[modern gull]

it's rng

[amber needle]

Haha darn rng

[modern gull]

the drop change for ravenous, bighorn, and eagle bearer in the dz is 0.024 so it’s pretty damn low

[amber needle]

How do you know this? Is there a drop rate chart or something where i can see those haha

[mossy solstice]

It's somewhere in an old dev post. Very old. Good luck finding it

[craggy trench]

It's pinned somewhere in the discord I believe

[haughty dirge]

This was nice surprise 🙂 and maxed out hs stat 👌

[mossy solstice]

Hell yeah 🔥 always nice to see a unicorn drop in the DZ. Too bad you could've just gotten that from Summit

DTTOC is best on that, as is with all guns

[haughty dirge]

I have one from summit, but it was a boring grind. Now my mule will have its own BH, so its nice 😉

[mossy solstice]

Always good to get dupes 💯 now chase after the ravvy and EB

[haughty dirge]

West got AR target loot, best time to grind for EB haha. Wish me luck ✌️

[mossy solstice]

AR target loot doesn't effect the drop chance for exotics

It'll still be .025% chance regardless of TL

[haughty dirge]

Yeah but more ARs mean more chance for AR exo. I got chameleon 5min after i got BH

[mossy solstice]

That still doesn't fully prove it boosts the rate for exotics. Just means your RNG has been good

Other exotics can still drop that aren't ARs

[haughty dirge]

Just wish me luck 😂

[mossy solstice]

May RNGesus bless you 🙏 trust me I wish the target loot boosted drop chances 😭 I think we all do

[lavish basin]

EB, BH and Rav are not in the target loot pool, other exotic ARs are but those three are a special case.

[modern gull]

what's a good pulse res setup to counter heartbreaker?

[half compass]

Umbra and capacitor with yahl

[modern gull]

figured
i just need to get a max pulse res mod then

or do you?
do you need a max pulse res mod to counter heartbreaker with yaahl or is like, a high 9.0+ enough?

[half compass]

Ive never ran pulse res but I’ve seen everyone else run a max or 9.9 pulse res mod so that is probably what you need to do

[craggy trench]

@modern gull

[amber ice]

Did you call that loadout "hidden", because you don't want to admit to it existing?

[craggy trench]

Pulse resistance = hidden

[modern gull]

i suppose now it's time to try and find the max pulse res mod

can't imagine that being fun however

[mortal badge]

Your actually better off with a slightly imperfect pulse resist mod. In pvp when your pulsed you'll be alerted. If you have 100% pulse resist you won't. But if you have <99% pulse resist you'll still be pinged, but the pulse resistance is so high that the player "pulsing" you never sees anything.

[modern gull]

how exactly is that "better"?

[mortal badge]

Your alerted someone is pulsing near by, or aiming at you with the pulse attachment, with no downside

[half compass]

Does that translate to linked laser pointer and heartbreaker for example though? Because can they still gain stacks off 99.9 pulse res or is the duration so short that the pulse wears off before the next bullet?

[mortal badge]

They won't gain stacks with HB basically the latter of your question. Functionally they won't gain stacks, although a single bullet can maybe gain one

[craggy trench]

Sometimes with acs they can build up a decent amount of stacks, especially if they realize you are not fully immune and spam aim

They won't deal HB dmg to you, but will gain the armor

@modern gull

[modern gull]

gotcha

also
i think i got something pretty good

[sinful grotto]

Can this tinkerer stuff be fixed already ts is so frustrating to play against everyday bro

I’m not the kinda guy to complain about the game everyday but jeez man it gets hard

[mossy solstice]

Sys Corr with a pulse res mod will delete heartbreaker easily

Super funny to watch them dump their ACS 12 into you and get no stacks. The panic sets in the moment you proc that 20% amp and they run away

[modern gull]

what's the build look like?

[mossy solstice]

Coyote mask, Soko chest Unbreakable, everything Sys Corr as Armor + CHD (slot CHC mods where needed and of course 1 pulse res mod). Ouroboros as main gun

Run it as a 4 blue/2 red setup. If daring or expertise, run it as a 3/3

[modern gull]

hmm

[mossy solstice]

It's a 1v1 monster, and it deletes heartbreaker due to full pulse res + 20% amp on demand

Just don't use it against multiple people

[modern gull]

i suppose now the issue is getting a maxed out pulse res mod

how should i go about doing that?

[mossy solstice]

Pray for crafting bug to return or farm summit floor 90 on legendary

Pretty sure a decently rolled pulse res mod would suffice. You'd need to look up the immunity %

[modern gull]

oh man i am nowhere close to floor 90

[half compass]

Good luck getting sys though 😂

[modern gull]

pvp only i imagine right?
fun

[mossy solstice]

Global events, buy legacy caches

[modern gull]

damn

[mossy solstice]

Drops from Legacy caches, DZ Proficiency caches, Season 1 caches (no longer a thing until they rerun legacy manhunts sometime), Conflict caches and DZ loot drops

[half compass]

It’s hard to get, I basically play exclusively dz and I only have 3 pieces of sys

[mossy solstice]

Stick to global events method. Few of the users that are in this discord got well over a dozen or so pieces easily. I myself farmed relentlessly during SHD Re-Animated global events and XP events and sys was dumb easy to get with enough time

[craggy trench]

I got a full headshot set from legacy caches and crafting

I've only pulled maybe 2-3 pieces from dz and that's when there's some sort of gear TL

[haughty dirge]

@modern gull you need 100% to be fully pulse resistant. Since i dont have 10% pulse res mod, i use 2 that are below 10%.
Also, you can just go yaal. As long as you dont get pulsed, hb builds die. And even if they do pulse you, just kite until pulse is gone. Few seconds and you're ready to fight 🤷‍♂️

[modern gull]

ik about yaahl but system corruption seems to be pretty fun

too bad it’s event only

[modern gull]

how does system corruption's special armor kit take into account the specialization kits from firewall, gunner, survivalist, and others?

[tawdry pier]

It doesn't

And if you use insta kit it'll treat it like you used the hackstep kit and put you on cooldown

[modern gull]

gotcha

[modern gull]

ik this build is kind of dead but i do still want to try it out

how's this?

[craggy trench]

Run walker knees or UA

[modern gull]

salvo maybe?

[craggy trench]

EB has 10 or 15% chc mod?

[modern gull]

15

[craggy trench]

No not enough chc, normal piece

[mossy solstice]

Salvo if you swap from Grupo to Ceska

[mossy solstice]

Walker in this case I'd say

[modern gull]

how's the core allocation? 4:2 good?

or this if i go walker route

[craggy trench]

Yea 4/2 is fine

Either or

[modern gull]

i am now fighting someone using umbra’s initiative with tempest, 2 piece ia, and bulwark shield

god this is annoying lol

[crude mural]

imagine how annoying it is to kill 2 of the 3 players and you are nowhere to be seen

[golden ermine]

Which is bull imo

[limber cedar]

They should have kept before like, you can use infinite 5s kits until you activated the SC perk for desperate measure and 20s.
(I mean come on, the perfect efficient chest allows you to use like 12 kits, are you gonna tell me a 4 pieces gear set is not allowed to?)

[golden ermine]

Valid

[tawdry pier]

To be fair that will make it on average a 5% regen gearset

[limber cedar]

I mean yeah, it was ok then, then their fix broke it for good.

[modern gull]

thinking about making a backup heartbreaker setup in case i get door camped or something, how's this?

using eb chc is 57 chd is 125

not using technician for laser pointer though

[modern gull]

also also
i got a unicorn ua chest piece with hazpro, hsd, and intim and rolled for armor core
how's this?

[craggy trench]

solid

[modern gull]

absurdly lucky with the chest piece

i got it day 1
very happy about it

now i just need to optimize it
6.4 hsd roll 💀

[frosty juniper]

Does anyone run the high end crit crit builds anymore? If so anyone tried it with 3 piece UA?

[craggy trench]

Nah HE crit AR is dead

Umbra and BH regen are too good, not to mention pistol and determined sniper

[modern gull]

umbra especially is obnoxious to deal with

[frosty juniper]

Whats a basic umbra build then?

I got the big horn one. But dont love it on console

[modern gull]

this with capacitor and technician specialization

alternatively for the umbra pieces you can swap them for 3 more yellow cores and have 6 skill tiers

[frosty juniper]

Righto. Ill have a little play around tonight. What about striker builds? Anyone use them?

[modern gull]

not so much because striker requires stacks but the one that is most common is stairway camping with striker and chatterbox

this

[frosty juniper]

A lot of change since i last played. I thought this new brand set might change it up a bit

[modern gull]

new brandset is good but good for specific setups if you can get lucky

[modern gull]

this for example
got really lucky and got a hsd hazpro intim ua chest and rolled it for armor core

[frosty juniper]

Haz pro over arm regen?

[modern gull]

you get enough armor regen from the brand set bonuses

3 pc gila gives 2%, 1 pc belstone gives 1%

60% hazpro is good against foam, fire, shock, stuff that's annoying to deal with

[frosty juniper]

What about those emperors kness?

[modern gull]

emperor's knees is 1% regen without the hsd roll

you'd use it if you want to run something like this

this is 4% armor regen

[frosty juniper]

I have that build. But i built mine with armor regen instead of haz pro.

[modern gull]

hazpro is much better, to deal with the annoying crap

[modern gull]

also @craggy trench is umbra capacitor better with a setup like this?
or is the 6 skill tier version better?
or is it just preference based

[craggy trench]

Matador is better than emperors here

[modern gull]

ye ik
pad is really good

[craggy trench]

Preference based, I like having skill tier 6. Decoy is at 28% dmg reduction with 1.3m armor. Sticky does around 600k, and capacitor crits for 200k

[modern gull]

ye i like running 6 skill tiers as well, but i can't lie i do also like the extra blue + 2 reds

[craggy trench]

Yea if you want more dps focus, can run more red and blue cores. I also have a full red version for lmg

[modern gull]

full red is evil

[craggy trench]

I use it when my team is aggressive, it really pins people back

[modern gull]

lucky you i'm usually solo 💀

i want to get better at this game because i currently suck but man is the pvp just awful to go through at this point

[craggy trench]

I solo queue mostly, but sometimes you get lucky

[modern gull]

also what's the method behind strafing in this game? and how do you try to aim and counter it?

[half compass]

What do you mean by method? Regarding countering it, i would say just shooting them becausee if the are strafing they cant shoot back and how to aim against this is just improve the "tracking" skill

[modern gull]

like is there a technique behind it or is it really just running around with your keys

[half compass]

There is a sequence of key presses to successfully strafe and that is called cut strafing, its just timing your "a" and "d" keys properly

[modern gull]

what would that look like

[half compass]

If you want to cut strafe to the right for example you need to be sprinting. When you want to strafe you press a and release your w key whilst holding shift for sprint and press d. You havge to do this fast in one motion otherwise your character will stumble

[modern gull]

yeah the pivot animation

[half compass]

Yeah

[modern gull]

alright got it, thanks for the advice

[half compass]

This is what it looks like for me, im not sure if there are other methods but this is mine

[tawdry pier]

You can circle strafe in a cath cloud

I'll have to record a video when i get on

[craggy hinge]

if i want a better pvp experience will joining clan help with that at all? or is pvp just cooked rn?

[modern gull]

pvp is cooked

[golden ermine]

Lol

[modern gull]

what makes the hsd for bighorn low like this?
is it just a visual bug or something else?

[craggy trench]

Visual bug after you lose stacks from the talent

[modern gull]

ok good

[half compass]

This also happens in the stats page where it will show a negative hsd damage %

[still pike]

any good tips for pvp for a new player, also how do you report players in conflict I've already fought two cheaters

[mossy solstice]

As much as we all wished making reports would actually do something, it does basically nothing. However, in conflict, I recommend using umbra. I'm pretty sure somebody here has the template for it

[wet badger]

You should, I tried using no laser pointer but this is the kind of build that only comes out during a bit of a struggle, some people wiggle too much and you can't proc the pulse. Laser pointer all the way... Also technician gives the artificer soooo... 👻

[modern gull]

you’d use the laser pointer on an acs i imagine only right? not the main ar you use?

[wet badger]

Yeah of course, high end ARs still suck

[jolly oar]

Thoughts on fighting against a emp pulse and emp launcher feedback loop build?

[mossy solstice]

Hazpro

Regen builds help as well

[fluid trench]

Are you able to pick the mode you want to play? Or is it always 3 maps with a random mode to vote on?

[mossy solstice]

You can pick in conflict but most play Skirmish. Same 3 maps as always as well

[craggy hinge]

Just ran conflict and was getting spawn camped by a fire sticky build. I’ve tried skill builds in the past and was not able to shoot any abilities into the enemy spawn. Does anyone know how this is working?

[mossy solstice]

There's a chance that they were camping right outside the spawn barrier from locking skills Or your teammates were dumb enough to leave the zone and have creeping death proc'd on all of you

Hazpro builds will solve that problem or having a booster hive dropped

[craggy hinge]

It looked a lot like he was shooting it into our spawn but I guess it could’ve been creeping death

[mossy solstice]

Might be something with the distance or so. I have no idea. I haven't been playing PVP at all so it's possible they may have made some silent changes

[fluid trench]

So i cant go into conflict and select team elimination? We always have to vote on modes?

[golden ermine]

Why

[mossy solstice]

It's a voting system every time the match loads

[craggy hinge]

Apparently mortar turrets can def shoot into conflict spawns

[craggy hinge]

It’s really hard to tell the difference between game mechanics and hacks. Just remove PvP atp

[craggy trench]

Yep that's been a thing for years

[pulsar vapor]

Use the measure assembly to counter it

[wet badger]

Measured Assembly doesnt counter stickies

[pulsar vapor]

True
But if you use the booster hive
And fortified smart cover
It should make it minimize its effectiveness

[wet badger]

Yes, they both work, the initial suggestion is worthless

[craggy trench]

He's talking about mortar so

[wet badger]

i see, yeah im a dumbass

[craggy trench]

I can relate

[minor anvil]

question, i am shd 300 and dz is dead, i know there is a 1000+ bracket, is it worth it to grind to 1000 or is DZ just dead overall

in NA btw

[mossy solstice]

DZ is dead because most people at that player level aren't venturing into the DZ. Grinding to SHD 1000 puts you directly into the PVP playerbase with known flaws to it:

1.) everyone will have min-maxed builds, likely with up to 30 expertise on it

2.) there's more cheaters once you hit SHD 1000+ bracket

3.) it'll still be dead. Most of the PVP has moved to conflict and that's known for issues too

The 4th factor would be people moved onto other games. The PvP playerbase isn't playing PVP anymore due to the state it's currently in

[primal crater]

So basically if I'm SHD ~40 I wouldn't meet anyone in DZ?

[mossy solstice]

Basically

[inland tusk]

U will meet the occasional rage hacker, that's it

[minor anvil]

understandable

thank you for letting me know, it sucks though i really like DZ pvp, in div 1 and div 2 nothing compares to a huge server fight

[mossy solstice]

Well when you hit shd 1000 it always ends up being a cheater fest

[meager swift]

@mossy solstice Oceania DZ server on PC is completely dead , all the PvP players have moved to Arc Raiders or BF6 etc and honestly you can't blame them for it either

[mossy solstice]

Sounds exactly right

[inland tusk]

Anything new in the pvp world of div2? Or some old?

[craggy trench]

Just slot in unit over grupo pieces

Salvo beats the old named items out

[inland tusk]

What?

[craggy trench]

Builds that have grupo, swap them for unit

[inland tusk]

So nothing new,same old same old,oh well back to arc i go

[golden ermine]

He prob had no idea what unit is so that looked like straight gibberish lol

[craggy trench]

yea i realized after lol

[inland tusk]

I had to Google the new brandset,have not touched div2 since arc dropped

[neon locust]

Anyone recommend a build or two? Thinking i might build a syscor. I personally prefer ARs. I have a bland high end and a strikers build but i haven't PvP'd in a few seasons. Both are 6 blues but i feel like i want more reds so if someone could also recommend a split i would appreciate it

[golden ermine]

Umbra

[north pendant]

System Corruption is my go to!

[half compass]

Umbra capacitor

[tawdry pier]

You can go reg if that's your cup of tea

[lavish plover]

@placid oxide like what?

Or if anyone else knows of a shotgun build that can 1 tap people even with 2.2m armor

[flint stirrup]

If I remember correctly, PvP makes everyone the same, so same health, and armor, the build perks could just be melting you, since they've minmaxed it

[lavish plover]

That may be the goofiest thing I’ve ever heard…..

We’re talking about the same game right? The division 2?

[flint stirrup]

I mean, I don't play PvP in div2, but I've heard it was like that

[half compass]

I don’t think you can do that without using gc but there are builds that can 2-3 shot such as brazen m870 Intim or you could run double barrel with centurions holster. If you want to one tap use mantis

[lavish plover]

Was so confused lol never saw anyone 1 tap at 2.2m armor with a shotty.

[half compass]

Are you saying it happened to you? Or did chow say that

[lavish plover]

It happened to me about a hour ago

Didn’t get to inspect his build though sadly

[half compass]

I don’t think that can happen, probably desync or the other plethora of bullshit in this game

[lavish plover]

What I figured or even the tinker perk stack glitch

He had a good 1.6m armor as well but was 1 shotting everyone

[half compass]

They shouldnt be one shotting 2.2 though, maybe using an exploit or again desync

[lavish plover]

Alright I appreciate the reply, just didn’t know if I was missing out on a new build or combo or something lol.

[lavish plover]

Any idea what would come close to a good 1 shot shotty build?

[half compass]

I said some builds earlier that 2-3 shot and are extremely strong when used right

[lavish plover]

Was really curious about the double barrel centurions one

[half compass]

It’s a funny build, you are able to constantly shoot db because you keep on switching between the 2 db shotguns

[lavish plover]

Might dm you if that’s ight

[half compass]

Sure

[inland tusk]

Then why are u here? 🤣

[amber ice]

It's a public channel, any one can talk in here about PvP.

[wet badger]

Surely it's easier to inspect the build first during the death screen than to ask what build it was an hour later on some chat, there is also a recent players list, or social for a second chance.

[lavish plover]

Was all bugged out, screen was jittering back and fourth wouldn’t let any of us inspect.

[golden ermine]

Unlucky, adren prob wore off as you caught a full crit full headshot blast to the noggin

[golden ermine]

Sheesh, shooters shoot am i right?

[wet badger]

my bad, i forgot this game had bugs, i thought everything was fixed

[inland tusk]

Anyone can talk but pve ppl should not give advice in PvP

[amber ice]

As this is again, a public channel, any one can talk about the PvP topic.
If someone is giving bad advice, correct them. Nicely.

[placid oxide]

@muted mason gonna throw you in here for this.

I am not too much of a PvP’er but the issues with this build is rely on a bleed to work and a lot of PvP can just have hazpro on and you can’t bleed them.

[muted mason]

No probs! Yes you’re right about that, for now as a newbie I just hope for people to not play with HP so I can enjoy a bit 😆

My play style is running on enemies, I don’t really like skill build nor tank build or LMG (I’m that complicated) so AR squishy build is my go to.

For now I bet on learning maps and good movements for my survivability

[placid oxide]

@mossy solstice in here

[mossy solstice]

i see you

[placid oxide]

Why isn't the PvP Sheet thingy pinned here

[amber ice]

Make a well worded comment about it, and I'll fix that.

[tawdry pier]

1 straight up buff to this is just fenris mask
Or fenris holster over picaro that'll net you an extra crit roll
Single gila isn't really that much
Ridgeway is just overall meh as well

2 cores playing up close no unbreakable is asking to get bursted

[placid oxide]

Not for me! @muted mason advice here

[muted mason]

How come my team and I in conflict started to burn at same time and we all died while the enemies wasn’t close at all? We were at the spawn spot not even moving? What is that build?

[half compass]

Creeping death burn sticky probably

[craggy trench]

Definitely a fire sticky with creeping

[muted mason]

Yes I found now its with Vile + this Creeping talent on backpack. Thanks!

[muted mason]

Is there any other Discord for PvP? Not channel but another Discord community exclusive to PvP?

[craggy trench]

Yea I'll dm you

[golden ermine]

Inviting him to isac is diabolical

[muted mason]

Why lol? What I’m missing 😬😬

Anyway he invited me and I got kicked in 2 mins after testing a weird command stuff on their server 🤷‍♂️

[golden ermine]

Auto kick, gotta do the verification

[craggy trench]

Pretty much the only real pvp discord

[modern gull]

i'd like an invite

[pulsar vapor]

Yea same

[amber ice]

Any future requests for invites should be directed to a users PM's.

[mystic fiber]

Make an cavalier build would very much help ur teammates and urself in a situation like that

[muted mason]

How to identify cheaters in DZ and conflict? I know now about the automatic Nemesis but what about the other?

Cause I’m pretty good at aiming and have some doubts sometimes if that person is cheating or I’m super bad

I have full red build that hit pretty hard with one magazine (Capacitor, Umbra, Ninja, Unit) and this build is proven to hit pretty hard even tanks

Just wanna know how yo recognise when people cheat VS what I need to improve, thanks

[half compass]

Use ISAC bot

[golden ermine]

Playstation?

[muted mason]

Yes sir

[golden ermine]

No1 is cheating then cept lagswitch and nem glitch and various glitches

[tawdry pier]

"no one is cheating except the people that cheat"

[golden ermine]

Reread his message

The implication being soft cheats no?

[mossy solstice]

Cronus/XIM is known to be common on consoles so there is a chance they could be facing those types of players

Would be fairly hard to prove especially on a game like division

[golden ermine]

I disagree, dont think it is as common as some think. Cronus for extra AA would be pretty easy to prove considering div doesnt have rotational AA like cod

[golden ermine]

I always prefer to assume they arent cheating unless they are blatant. Stops you from resorting to a cheating excuse mindset every death 😇

[muted mason]

I’ve been in situations where I cut scraf like crazy and headshot me a whole magazine.

Sometimes people has tank build yet they shoot two bullets then you die lol

I’m genuinely trying to understand, I also know that when you face a clan that are super synchronised in builds and strategy then you can do nothing hehe

[mossy solstice]

While a Cronus might not be common on a game like division, it's not entirely uncommon that it's still being used on the platform. Strae is right tho and it's not as common as some think. As well as not having solid evidence for proof someone is cheating will just give you the whole "someone is cheating" mindset every death

Unless they're shooting completely thru walls and speed cheating, just chalk it up as weird desync. It happens alot

[golden ermine]

💙💙💙💙

[muted mason]

My wife is watching me while I play so I’ll just tell her they’re cheaters

[craggy trench]

valid

[pulsar vapor]

I hope div 3 dark zone makes a comeback
Or just pvp in general

[cloud epoch]

Over the part couple months I have auto Nemises , auto explosive sticky’s , I’ve seen the cooler glitch , I’ve seen tinekers mask glitch , I’ve been shotgunned through walls by LEX and RNR as they are are the same guys

I’ve played against shc using triple bunk builds which isn’t cheating but cringe asf

[amber ice]

The glitch was cool? Well it's not all bad then.

Silver linings, old chap.

[cloud epoch]

I’ve the auot stick was funny , just a constant f****** boom like a 10 f***** strafing Down the map

[tawdry pier]

If you can't back up your claims why make them

[cloud epoch]

First of all why do you come here like lol ? The guys asked about reporting cheaters and stuff , I’m sharing that as my experience as that is a part of the ps experiences atm , I take couple clips for clan mates and I can find the shotgun and the auto sticky but ain’t nothing gonna happen about it so

[tawdry pier]

Okay but you threw accusations

[cloud epoch]

Which claims do you specifically have an issue with ?

[tawdry pier]

Shotgunned thru walls by lex

You're familiar with desync no?

[cloud epoch]

I can go and find you a clip of that now and I can find a lex guy trying to recuit me and telling to buy chrono as it’s good

[cloud epoch]

Type me the full user name if you would please? It rings a bell yes

[tawdry pier]

It isn't a username it's something that usually happens whenever someone has higher latency

On your screen you may have went behind the wall but on theirs you were still exposed

[cloud epoch]

I was presuming you meant a guy

[cloud epoch]

What happen in the case of I’ve never been round this wall and they shouldn’t even know I’m there , also I’m looking but can’t remember which chat it is exactly In , also if it was a case of latency then i would like to say it only on server itself as I’m playing off a Ethernet cable

[tawdry pier]

Anyone can figure out exactly where you are with a tactician drone it doesn't even need to be a pulse
And it doesn't matter what kinda internet you play if both of you are on different latency levels there will be desync

[cloud epoch]

I will not go into the full situational detail but it was close to spawn I can see there was no drone from the respawn or no pulse and my location could of not been verbally told

[tawdry pier]

If you don't have a video it's pretty much just your word against mine
I'd be happy to check the clips you have of those situations though

[cloud epoch]

I am looking now , I can’t find the specific shotgun one saved in my ps storage , I’ve got one of shorting Samuel you n the back and taking no damage and then about 5 secs later after he shoots me I can damage him but that’s I’ve always put down to the severs and I’ve got one of on the floor telling to buy chronus , but I’m looking in a different chat now

@tawdry pier I cannot find it but I have asked a friend who I was with that match to check back through as I’m sure I had sent it to him, so when I have it or if I can find it I will @ and make you aware okay bud 👍

[muted mason]

Ive seen a lot of people using cronus with insane RPM you don’t even hear the bullets just one and with Bighorn or Capacitor - this one Im 100% sure hehe

[tawdry pier]

Can you say those names again? I can't recognise any other than sam

[tawdry pier]

Cronus doesn't affect your rpm

[muted mason]

It does yes

[cloud epoch]

On_the_floor_01 is the second name

[tawdry pier]

Explain how it does

[muted mason]

Just look at the scripts they sell on Google for this game dude, can I share a link in this thread?

[mossy solstice]

it would be against the server rules

[muted mason]

I can delete that if needed

Im totally open to hear and see the proof Im wrong but Im not crazy lol I can recognise the RPM of a Capacitor or Bighorn - it take me 3s to empty my mag on Capacitor while some literally in less than a second

[tawdry pier]

Brother this is a glorified autoclicker

[muted mason]

No idea what is it but will look

Cause if I can do that then I’ll kill everyone in the map 🤣

[tawdry pier]

You simply cannot exceed the ingame RPM using external methods especially not a cronus

[tawdry pier]

Are you familiar with umbra and salvo?

[muted mason]

I do use Umbra only brother

Ninja
2 unit
3 umbra

It takes 3 seconds to empty a mag

[tawdry pier]

Then surely you'd know bursting is easy in this game
Bullet stacking is something but i have yet to see it on ps

[muted mason]

Yes thanks Im looking at it now cause I’m super interested haha

[golden ermine]

Those are basically click bait named to sell to morons lol

[golden ermine]

You can with a lagswitch kinda? Idk how that works tho, just know the nem glitch can be applied to reg and other single fire guns

[tawdry pier]

True but why rpm glitch on an auto weapon

[muted mason]

I think just the rapid fire that modify your RPM alone is the biggest cheat ever guys believe me when I tell you lot of people use it. Maybe the fact you play on PC is different?

Now that I think, it explain why I felt these tank build one shot me with the Bighorn, I’ll record it next time and show you guys you’ll see how they empty their mag in literally less than a second

[golden ermine]

Bighorn is stack based, you prob just facetanked a max stack BH . Kills in like 4 bullets

[muted mason]

Yes probably, might be same with Capacitor "they stack" and kill you in first round. If you have a video that show how to do that then please let me know cause obviously, if people knew that then everyone would use it

[mossy solstice]

majority of everyone uses the same old broken builds. they just kill that fast

[golden ermine]

I mean, the damage is based off the stacks from talent lol

[neat musk]

not even remotely clsoe to true

did you not play div 1 lol

RPM is just a basic variable stored in ram. any memory modifier can change RPM values

[tawdry pier]

This is within ps context as far as i know you really can't replicate something like that on a console yet

[craggy trench]

It doesn't change the weapons firerate, it's something to do with how fast you can fire sticky while the lag switch is active

It's hard to explain while being vague

[muted mason]

I just know that when it happens you can hear it in the sound of the bullets.

You see the fire but the sound come only after and all this happens in less than a second.

You visually see the burst but only hear one bullet. It’s not lagging like the Nemesis where it’s 100% obvious, that’s another level on this one.

And it is used way more than Nemesis glitch on PS5 for sure AND when I see the YouTubers which most play on PC, I never see that happen in their gameplay.

[mossy solstice]

this isn't to "encourage" cheating using extreme measures, nor is it glorifying it in any way, but these systems do exist and people do have them. question is, are they on division? or playing something entirely different? I have no clue. I'm only going off of what ive read from all of you guys here in chat. figured id give some insight on the speculation

my message got nuked to no surprise so ignore what seems like random rambling

[wet badger]

Lol no

[fierce rune]

with the new UA Set, given the scenario i need to choose between gila 1pc bonus (5% Armor) or 3 piece UA (50% Mag Size), which one is the preferred pick, especially with max expertise in mind?

Current max expertise (though if i recall right, that only does matter in the DZ, not conflict) is 10, though i hope i can push to 20 with the next pick.

[mossy solstice]

Build is dependent. Would need to see the build

[fierce rune]

Though secondary isn't set in stone yet - tac vec works well though.

plan was to switch out Chill Out for another UA mask potentially

[mossy solstice]

Ridgeways pride builds are just awful now. Too many have hazpro builds tucked away and the 3 piece Gila + emp knees + firewall kit will easily outperform that because they have passive Regen

Upwards of 100k Regen per second if built properly

[fierce rune]

For now - it surprisingly works well in both Conflict (and sub 1k dz), but i see you

[mossy solstice]

Yeah in DZs where your playerbase is below SHD 1k, they're basically clueless and don't have any builds to counter that. In conflict, it entirely depends who you end up playing against. Region is also a big factor too

Reach SHD 1k and play with the true PVP playerbase and you'll see how quickly that build will become obsolete. It's not a bad build, it's just that pvpers who play religiously know how to counter that and that's as simple as a booster hive or running hazpro or Regen (often times, BOTH, since passive Regen is easy to obtain and hazpro rolls are easy on bighorn builds which is what I'm talking about. Bighorn focuses on HSD vs crits)

[fierce rune]

I will at some point also have several builds myself so i can switch around, also got a bighorn ready to roll.

But given that build though, as an as is example, would that be more beneficial with 3pc UA for that mag size or should it run gila for 5% armor. My thinking is that surviving 1-3 bullets more don't help as much as a potential extra damage before i have to reload right?

[mossy solstice]

I personally would just ditch ridgeways altogether and run fenris unbreakable

Then take coyote mask for boosted crits up close. Ditch sadist talents entirely and go for something like Measured or Optimist

Backpack talent can be companion for skill proximity or Vigi which is better overall. Both increase weapon damage as well

It'll work better in conflict and as for DZ, just run your generic bighorn Regen build or armor strikers + memento + EB

High end builds kinda suck in DZ because most fights happen at close range and if you're not running any kind of Regen you're basically dead due to how low the TTK is

[wet badger]

Gila is good for its value on a Ninja bike build, not as a single 1 piece, unless the build depends on 1 singular roll and the extra mod from the Chill Out helps reach a threshold.

Ditch Grupo and Gila.

Try Fenris for one then I dunno... Maybe Fox's, I can't remember if theres other better options these days, Ceska still good afaik

[fierce rune]

Ok, thank you.

I'll try to gather some more pieces and switch a few things around, you mentioned and thanks for the tips in general.

[wet badger]

Now whilst that was likely the answer u were looking for the reality is the guys above are right in saying that once u reach the 1k bracket, aka the proper bracket that build will lose to just about any Bighorn build or Umbra which does more damage without a range requirement.

Ridgeway was last 'good' about 3 years ago.

[craggy trench]

Yaahl, unit are good for ninja too

[modern gull]

speaking of umbra ninja thinking about this

shield is t6

[sinful grotto]

Something a little off topic but do you guys think that Ubisoft hack will effect the time release window for survivors

[craggy trench]

Probably not

[craggy trench]

Tbh I think tempest dps is too low

[modern gull]

shield tempest umbra is still annoying to fight at least for me lol
plus it's umbra

[neat musk]

nope. any developmental work is completely separate from live (what was hacked)

[severe tulip]

How is unit alloy in pvp high end bulids compared to groupo/coyote, is it still worth it?

[craggy trench]

Ideally you still have coyotes. 2 unit (1 salvo), fox, coyotes, ceska, grupo

[severe tulip]

Yeah I had something similar, but you would say that 2 piece unit (including salvo) would be better than 1 piece groupo and fenris?

[craggy trench]

Depends on the rest of the build but probably yea

[wet badger]

Wouldnt you drop fox's at this point or nah?

[craggy trench]

For AR you can have 2 gear items without chc

For conflict id drop Fox

[velvet gust]

I got a build that wipes full squads by myself fairly easily

[hollow walrus]

Which one is it brother? 🙂

[mossy solstice]

Don't answer to them. They're a known troll

[half compass]

If anything it’s probably burn sticky

[tawdry pier]

Or a reg...

[velvet gust]

I am gatekeepin, just know it takes a bit to prep but melts squads like butter.

[velvet gust]

I don't stoop down to that level.

[velvet gust]

Regulus will get you dead instantly if you try pushing squads

[tawdry pier]

sounds like a krill tissue to me

[velvet gust]

The build i have for it one taps people

But is squishy

[tawdry pier]

make it not squishy and 2 tap instead 👍

[craggy trench]

So reg with extra steps

[mossy solstice]

We still haven't seen the build yet

[amber ice]

@mild birch You're welcome to ask for that in another server.

[mild birch]

ok

[velvet gust]

Not regulus

[velvet gust]

Its top secret 🙊 😜 😉 🤪 😏 😋

[lofty portal]

like this?

[mossy solstice]

Bro has exactly 1 red core like it's gonna make a damage difference of that much 😂👌

[lofty portal]

oh shit, old screenshot

was able to find the right backpack at some point so now i’m running 6 blue

[mossy solstice]

I bet you that backpack was a major pain in the ass to find

I myself am looking for a double crit with intimidate so I can roll for blue on the chest. I have the other pieces. Trying to make a tempest build 💀

[limpid owl]

All in all, is PvP unplayable in 2025? Or is it worth playing?

[lofty portal]

only around 400-500 crafts💀

had a macro for buying and deconstructing

[mossy solstice]

sounds right 💀

[muted mason]

4 time on 5 you get cheaters with lag switch and Nemesis or people camping and glitching at the entry (DZ) on PS (don’t know about PC)

I even found out today that there are specific places (trees or walls) where if you get in there then you get invincible - this is how people enjoy the game🤘

Otherwise PvP is freaking great, just gotta be patient and keep calm lol

[neat musk]

this isnt really an issue on PC

[half compass]

You can also use regen reg if you want, thats what i use

[neat musk]

ive never seen anyone lag switch

[meager swift]

@neat musk you obviously done play PvP enough

[neat musk]

🤷‍♂️ 600+ hours

NA maybe its worse in other regions. ive played with people who are laggy but not obviously exploiting it

[muted mason]

I get it now why people seem to not believe when we tell them this game is full of cheaters. Didn’t know it work by regions.

We know the cheaters’s names so much that even in the lobby before the match start, people leave and some of them (the cheaters) have +5000 hours in the game.

I get it there are ton of people that are terrible at aiming and cry "cheaters" when they lose but now we’re talking of obvious cheaters with lag switch

There are ton of videos on YouTube, proof, footage sent to Ubi but hey we’re making stories

[neat musk]

I was refering to lag switching specifically

cheaters exist 100% ive ran into 30 maybe 40 of them

im just talking about my experience specifically in NA. I obviously cant talk about EU but im not in EU and rarely ever swap to EU servers

[muted mason]

Might be easier on console idk, just watched couple of videos on YT and people say TD2 is the best place to cheat cause they don’t need any external material to lag switch but just some settings on the console itself.

[neat musk]

I think its more common cuz other ways of cheating are much harder/impossible

aimbot, walls, invincible is insanely easy on pc

[muted mason]

Tbh man you don’t need more than lag switch when you know what they do with. Its like they kill you with one bullet kinda like they have a crazy RPM with the AR.

Last time I could swear this was done with the Cronus (my bad) but this is the lag switch.

Some people will abuse it so its 100% obvious and some will do very slightly the time to empty a full mag on a target and almost impossible to catch.

Anyway I don’t want to be negative or cry, this game is freaking good but I’m just trying to do something at my own scale.

Don’t know if it gonna change but I try hehe

[manic gust]

This looking good?

Can go Catharsis mask and Everyday Carrier chest instead. But this amps up Crit Damage to 200%. 1.7m Armor, 3% regen.

[golden ermine]

People hard cheat on pc, they dont need to lagswitch lol

[golden ermine]

^

[craggy trench]

crit bighorn is kinda mid

[manic gust]

Can do Elmos/Lex/anything. Just happened to have that in slot.

[craggy trench]

i havent tried using the chest much but i would swap the backpack to unit alloy brand and run ad rush

i assume you dont have matador?

[manic gust]

I do not. Farming for it now. Obviously gonna swap to that when I can.

[urban aurora]

I hope for you that you're farming for the bp

[neat musk]

what is the meta shit now

besides umbra

[urban aurora]

Bighorn hsd regen or hazpro I'd say

[neat musk]

played a game of conflict and all 7 other people were on umbra lol

[neat musk]

pretty much exactly what he has in the screenshot? but HSD not crit

[urban aurora]

yup, and everyday carrier plus matador

[manic gust]

That's pretty cool. Why the HSD though and not CHD?

[urban aurora]

cuz bighorn

[manic gust]

Oh lol.

Haven't played in years. Why did meta shift to regen? And even Everyday Carrier? Do fights last longer now for some reason?

[urban aurora]

With that build for sure

Unless fully stacked

I haven't played much either and I'm def. not 100% up2date, those builds just come up all the time

[mossy solstice]

It shifted to Regen because the TTK is so short now and they buffed Regen builds back during project resolve

At the cost of umbra initiative also getting buffs, making it now the fastest killing build in pvp

[manic gust]

Well, I got into the DZ and immediately got one-shot by some guy with a shotgun that said 2.5 million damage.

Pretty sure that's faster lmao.

[mossy solstice]

Shotguns with enough red cores or crits can 1 tap you. The issue with those builds is that you're also fairly easy to be killed. Crits mean no hazpro, and all it takes is a good Regen build to foam a shotgun user and their life is over

[craggy trench]

#td2-pvp-discussions message

[craggy trench]

Regen got buffed, everyday carrier is the same but it's always been good. Unbreakable got nerfed awhile back

Shotgun can one tap, but usually needs intimidate and 3ish red cores

[limber cedar]

Am I the only one who is finding bugged extraction stuck at 0 timer too?

[neat musk]

did catharsis get changed? or are people just still pretending its good?

[crude mural]

pretending?

[crystal iris]

what is the best eagle bearer build?
And what is the best counter to heartbreaker?
I wounder for dz

[craggy trench]

He's a catharsis hater

[craggy trench]

It did get a buff actually awhile back

[amber ice]

Sounds like Odder could use some....catharsis.

[urban aurora]

@amber ice

Hijacked account

[neat musk]

interesting

so it might be actually good now, not an exotic that requires you to get shot a ton then stand in a tuna can sized "healing" bubble

[craggy trench]

Functions the same, but now you get 45% WD instead of 30

[neat musk]

hmmm

[mossy musk]

I really dislike status skill builds omg

[golden ermine]

Yuh, i main a ST6 fire sticky

[mossy musk]

for me its vile and emp pulse, we were completely mopping a team and they just hid and camped using those

[mossy solstice]

Hazpro fixes those problems

And I would've had a teammate throw on mortar if I could and kept my mortar teammate covered using cooler rifle for hazpro

[crystal iris]

are there any good ravenous builds for dz pvp?

[muted mason]

Why everyone in conflict has the Cooler red weapon? I see it almost every match

[unkempt inlet]

why is it when i find a dz session it boots me to a empty instance everytime.

[golden ermine]

Define good. There are some that kinda work ? But none id say are good

[amber ice]

@stuck valley You're going to have to check other servers, we don't endorse bots on here.

[inland tusk]

Only 1 that kinda worked but it was for console😂 🤣

[sonic shadow]

1-10 check on Ouroboros in conflict/dz?

[limber cedar]

By the way, put a weapon that has immobilize or thunder strike, throw the demolisher firefly at the sky 4 times, see the magic happens

[sonic shadow]

Majority of DZ nowdays (atleast in EU) consists of cheaters and people overall doesn't go there. Open-world seems more rewarding nowdays or well, casual pvp russian clans go there to trashtalk and fight each other. It's just not how it was and it lost majority of players in there. Sure, there are some normal people who grinds and farms whatever they need, but it's rare occasion.

[unkempt inlet]

fair

[sonic shadow]

decade went by and i bet everyone still hates going against good skill build players

doesn't matter how much armour you stack but if they got godroll max builds they'll casually onetap your time invested meta builds with their fast deployed mortars or hives/sticky setups

[sonic shadow]

pov: the guy you get paired against after a hard long day of work running 4:3 and 100 sens to strafe

[wet badger]

Huh

[meager swift]

@sonic shadow there has been no change to it ....

[sonic shadow]

about?

[neat musk]

first build is haz pro headshot on every piece right?

or regen

regen still looks like ass so im guessing haz pro

[craggy trench]

Yea hazpro

Usually run ensnare resistance mods

[sonic shadow]

Someone has disrupt EMP build for PvP?

[tawdry pier]

You can use ninja umbra with picaro and technician and you'll be able to have tier 3 jammer as well as a damage build

[wet igloo]

Is everyone using The Bighorn these days? I keep getting killed in the DZ when the other person has that with Cartharsis, 4 piece Striker, and Unbreakable chest.

[craggy trench]

Yup

Deadeye rn too

[neat musk]

deadeye?

they just copy pasting gear names now 💀

[craggy trench]

It's an event

[unkempt inlet]

yo are level 500 dz servers actually this dead?

[sonic shadow]

Probably, you got to roll servers until you find an active one, sadly that's the situation with DZ for pvp really

[unkempt inlet]

how

[sonic shadow]

Who knows really, DZ dying so much, it's pure RNG to get crossed with a server that has people in it rofl

Atleast in EU to find an active session that has more than 3 people, best time is at evenings for your countries and just hopping them since you wouldn't really find people at mornings/day time

Honestly conflict has more action than dz

[golden ermine]

Anything under shd 1000 is dead

[sonic shadow]

Gotta min-max those shd levels

[upbeat bison]

can anyone recommend any pvp builds?

its all stinger hives and pesti

[sonic shadow]

Most basic umbra one

If you have 4 man stack then it's 2 dps 1 skill build 1 healer

[sonic shadow]

Welcome to the pvp of this game

[upbeat bison]

how about when going in solo? is there a pvp build guide?

[sonic shadow]

Dz or conflict?

[upbeat bison]

conflict. trying to do more pvp in conflict.

[sonic shadow]

just 4x piece umbra, backpack - grupo/ceska/fenris with vigilance and cayote's mask

or 3x umbra, ninjabike backpack, mask/holster of your choice

[upbeat bison]

cool thanks. Skill and weapon advice?

[sonic shadow]

capibara weapon as primary (capacitor) shield drone probably and emp sticky

many choices tbh, gotta research yourself what you like

[golden ermine]

Kamikazevondoom, e da ripper, or son ov godz

[upbeat bison]

Faced a guy on the enemy team where he destroyed 3 of my teammates with a pistol and a shield. I think it was the regulus. How is that possible?

[urban aurora]

Boom, headshot

Well, technically the explosion only works on downed enemies. But it's pretty strong in general

Last time I played at least

[haughty dirge]

Best reconfiguration stats for nemesis, eagle bearer and chatterbox for pvp?

[craggy trench]

dtooc

for lmg chc

[crude mural]

for lmg damage to armor is better than chc

[amber ice]

Conflict x3 Event is up for the next 3 days Agents,

[urban aurora]

No ty for me ^^

[haughty dirge]

For all 3?

[haughty dirge]

None of those 3 are lmg 😆

[half compass]

Dtooc for everything except lmg becasue it comes with dtooc already so the best minor attribute is chc

[inland tusk]

Dta?

[mossy solstice]

Sounds juicy but hard pass. The good pvp players will know newbies will try out conflict and they'll wipe the floor with them in full clans

[upbeat bison]

As a new player I experienced this yesterday. One guy was healing and the other guy was one shotting us with a pistol

[limber cedar]

I gently gave him the Kamiscum nickname.

[craggy trench]

DTA is good but you have to compare directly and including gear options
DTA on gun is 6%
Chc on gun is 9.5%
Contractors is 8% DTA and a chc roll on gear is 6%

Since the crit rebalance you have to stack a lot more chc which favors the chc roll on lmg. Pre crit nerf you could get away with DTA and it was basically the same dps

[surreal rock]

guys why does everyone vote for skirmish ive never played a singular game of dom

[sonic shadow]

Went against 15k SHD lvls, 4 premades, 2 AR players, 1 Regulus onetapper and 1 emp dude. Boy, if you get bad teammates or the ones who uses PvE builds against enemies, it's mission impossible.

[craggy trench]

4 stacks will vote dom since you get way more xp, most randoms just want to play "TDM"

[mossy solstice]

Welcome to the average solo experience

I don't play anymore bc the pvp is just too unbalanced and as a solo player it's just flat out impossible to have decent games

[sonic shadow]

Ye ye, solo q is just rngjesus thingy nowdays

Either decent matchmaking or pure headache for 10 minutes holding each other spawns (if you're lucky)

[inland tusk]

What crit rebalance?

[craggy trench]

Crit brands got nerfed awhile back

[inland tusk]

That was a mini nerf,ceshka went 8% hardly a nerf💀

[golden ermine]

I feel like dom lowkey easier as a solo player tho tbh

[craggy trench]

It's enough to make a difference at a fully optimized build

[craggy trench]

Eh idk

I never played it solo

[sonic shadow]

Had to swap pieces in builds to cover for those 2% difference

[clever bay]

Wow I have encountered two cheaters used aimbot and rapid fire in two separate matches

Conflict

[half compass]

Your mistake was playing conflict in the first place

[sonic shadow]

Damn, EU doesn't have that many cheaters seems like, atleast i don't encounter them on conflict or DZ

Rare occasion atleast to meeting them

[half compass]

Ive noticed it too in us and eu, some cheaters but way less and one anti cheater

[mossy solstice]

Depends on your guys regions. I'm in the US, and I'm on US East servers. The servers are usually dead or it's full of cheaters

[clever bay]

Haha true but it’s 3x conflict event to get lv99 rewards I think. It was my first time seeing cheaters

[wet badger]

Do remember that this game is 7 years old and was abandoned for a couple of years, also 'PvP' is an acronym the Dev's are scared to mention during the special reports, so that should tell u something.

[amber ice]

@wet badger They've just hired new PvP team members, notably.

[wet badger]

Presumably this is due to Survivors?.

I stated an opinion on the twitter post of them hiring already, I just think it's too late tbh. Who's gonna come back? I'll certainly keep an eye but.. I've got no expectations

[amber ice]

So far we don't know that much about Survivors, except for "the clue is in the name", in regards to what we learned in a livestream.

[mossy solstice]

Crypt genuinely isn't wrong. I'm not 100% sure what to expect anymore for survivors. The hype is kinda dying off for me

[amber ice]

You're welcome to your opinion.
Although a little positivity every now and then can't hurt.

[wet badger]

For sure, some of us are aware of your take on the doom & gloom, it's just the only light in the tunnel has been the occasional interesting new item and now the hiring of the Dev's/survivors, but other than that there really hasn't been anything to get excited about.

[golden ermine]

Ima be on resurgence 🤓🤓🤓

[golden ermine]

You should become a pve content creator

Make speedrun builds

[wet badger]

heh

[noble moth]

hey guys what would you take for dz as an lmg stat, would you take -
15% lmg dmg
10% rate of fire?
10% lmg dmg + 8% dmg to armour
(can only pick two)
(pestilence)

[craggy trench]

Depends on the build

[noble moth]

Just in generali mean

[craggy trench]

It depends on the build lol

I can't really give a blanket answer

[iron flame]

i have an idea for pvp. make rogue status permanent and give reputation based on kills. the more reputation one has, the more npc hunters goes after him. kill hunters get huge rewards

kill someone with high reputation get huge rewards

reputations can reset every szn

[golden ermine]

Id like more of a pvp reward track similar to season tracks but based on kills

[tawdry pier]

So you want rogues to be attacked from multiple vectors

As if they're not already at a disadvantage from having to fight every shd player and possibly other rogues too

[mossy solstice]

hop in I'm the getaway driver

[wet badger]

I've got an idea, when players just incessantly camp behind DZ turrets you can go to an SHD terminal, hack it making the turrets turn on SHD agents killing them all in 1 shot.

That would be much better wouldn't you agree?

[mossy solstice]

I can fully get behind that

[neat musk]

will absolutely kill solo play (as if it wasnt dead enough as is)

also this turns PVP into PVEVP

[limber cedar]

They need to fix the turrets first.

[half compass]

Reputation would also just encourage cheating

[mossy solstice]

Them cheats hit you like

[vernal flint]

L take

[tawdry pier]

I like them as is

They're a deterrent at best and does not encourage camping anymore

[wet badger]

It wasn't really meant to be taken seriously

[abstract vault]

i think the one shot is abit far, keep them the way they are but being able to hack them every 10 minutes could be cool to usher people out of a checkpoint, but it should also lock the particular checkpoint door aswell so people inside the checkpoint cant step out. it would make fights abit more highstake, it will stop being able to just respawn and run out to fight again.

[wet badger]

Me saying it was 1 shot was supposed to be equivalent to /s

If you check OP you'd have understood

[manic cape]

i think everyone should use sleigher striker for a day

ninjabike with six piece striker and sleigher

all headshot damage

[gaunt kayak]

Yoyo

I need PvP coaching so I can git gud 👀

[golden ermine]

That retired guy said he would do it

[half compass]

retired is a pro console pvper, ask him

[mossy solstice]

Pro 😂

[brisk knoll]

I will say I kinda see the vision, but I think something that fits dayz / unturned's reputation system of like villian - paragon depending on how many kills you have on rogue agents / non rouge agents, or hijacking extracts, idk just a thought

[azure roost]

whats a good pvp gun build to build right now?

[lofty portal]

Bighorn Tank

multiple Variants to choose from, all good rn

[craggy trench]

BH or umbra

[craggy hinge]

does dz rank split severs?

[half compass]

No, shd levels do

[limber cedar]

Here is my coach quote to you: don't play pvp, please go play other games.

[gaunt kayak]

Problem is I don't play other games, anymore 😂. I only play Division 2. I need to git gud

[limber cedar]

Well, PvP is not worth it but have your way mister Eaves.

[half compass]

Not too sure about console but getting good takes time. The key factors such as aim and general game sense such as when to push, when to peek, and where to position yourself come with playtime and learning from deaths. Another big thing is also accepting in some situations there is nothing you can do

[tawdry pier]

this MIGHT be the worst video of all time 😭

[hearty thorn]

Okay lol stay sad I guess 🤣🤣🤣

[tawdry pier]

"she say no games but we got bodies just like call of duty" 😭 😭 😭 😭

[hearty thorn]

Am I supposed to know what that is lol

Here I got more clips of the same guy and he’s the one who challenged me lol so I stomped him

[urban aurora]

Why are you posting those here anyway?

[hearty thorn]

The chat is called pvp discussion

These clips are pvp related and I figured I’d share them, duh

[urban aurora]

After the first clip I thought you'd advertise your YT channel. What do you wish to discuss about your clips?

[hearty thorn]

I honestly just wanted to see how many people would find it funny that an SHD 11K was getting stomped by a level 3k

My YouTube channel wasn’t a thing I was going to discuss I only would if someone asked

[urban aurora]

What does SHD level have to do with PvP skills? Could be a farmer who sometimes visits DZ

[tawdry pier]

Bro thinks skill correlates to shd level

[urban aurora]

Yeah Idk, lol

[tawdry pier]

I know ppl in pvp that are ~1-2k who would farm groups

[urban aurora]

For sure

[hearty thorn]

He clearly wasn’t farming because he came from behind while I was doing 1s with my friend who me and him go into the DZ all the time we fight sweats all the time and most of them range from 5k to 20k

[tawdry pier]

i promise you no one cares what level shd you beat someone at or to

[hearty thorn]

Okay and that’s your opinion and thanks for your input

[urban aurora]

Not only his, trust

[hearty thorn]

Okay so you both my bad lol two randoms

[urban aurora]

Nobody:
Random Xbox player: Hey look how good I am (showing boring clips)

👍

[hearty thorn]

Cope harder I guess

Oh no someone is typing a big message

[tawdry pier]

horrible music over a hilarious clip on a 7 year old dead game mode is really making me not regret dropping the game

[hearty thorn]

Then why are you in this server then 🤣🤣

[urban aurora]

TikTok music for all the Gen-Alphas

[hearty thorn]

Sounds like you have the skill issue

[tawdry pier]

you really need to stop having beef online

it's not cool and kinda weird

[hearty thorn]

So not only are you two the ones starting the beef 🥩 lol 😂 and being toxic for no reason you’re also just straight up dumb

[tawdry pier]

beef 🥩

[hearty thorn]

lol so the other words for stupid are blocked that’s wild seems like people are snowflakes here

[tawdry pier]

you really wanted to say it that badly huh

[hearty thorn]

Because that’s how you are acting because of a video

[tawdry pier]

real question what's that music from or what's its name

[hearty thorn]

lol idk I just clicked on something random that sounded decently funny to show how I thought fighting that 11k was

[tawdry pier]

"she say no games but we got bodies just like call of duty"
how did that resonate with the clip

[urban aurora]

Why are you still going?

Just bury it and move on. Nothing more to discuss here, I'd say

[meager swift]

Can you 2 get a freaking room and go sort ya shite out elsewhere or better still take it back to the DZ ya console scrubs

[golden ermine]

No

[inland tusk]

Hey everyone 👋
Quick question for the PlayStation agents here:
is it still possible today to get the platinum trophy and 100% all DLCs on The Division 2?

I’m a platinum trophy hunter and I really love The Division, so before fully committing I’d like your feedback (multiplayer trophies, still-accessible content, any blockers, etc.).

Thanks in advance 💪🎮

[half compass]

you should be able to

[inland tusk]

I know there are two trophies that require 8 players for the raids.
Is it still possible to find players for raids nowadays?

[half compass]

Yeah, raids are common. Check the GC rock discord

[tawdry pier]

dz you might need help cause you'll hate yourself if you do it especially without a dedicated pvp build

isn't there also an achievement for playing conflict with your clan against another clan

that might be a little tricky if you're in a pve clan

[hearty thorn]

Yes

It’s crazy that the lame ah discord mods deleted my clips from the chat lol this server is full of nothing but snowflakes 🤡

[inland tusk]

What do you mean by that? I don't understand. I hope that getting the platinum trophy is still possible and that completing the DLCs 100% is also achievable. Could you please help me with that?

I only need help with the clan-related trophies for raids and PvP, because I can do the story mode on my own.

[half compass]

Getting 100% is possible, for dz just get a friend and do them

[lofty portal]

it’s mine as well

[craggy trench]

I thought the clips were bangers tbh

[craggy trench]

Is third hsd or crit?

[craggy trench]

Build #2 id swap to this setup

Matador is slightly better

[broken skiff]

third is crit

[craggy trench]

Overall more survivability and better intimidate uptime

[broken skiff]

u think the extra damage is worth more than the armor?

[craggy trench]

Third one will be hard to midmax

[craggy trench]

It's more dmg and armor https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bmOAQE-McFIdXPNgbZGceIzFfmIEWu7BLVlyMX76zG8/edit?usp=drivesdk
I used this to test regen builds

Third build midmax setup will be 2 walker, catharsis, 2 unit (1 being salvo) and ceska

[broken skiff]

alr thank you

[craggy trench]

I'd probably drop 2nd Walker for everyday carrier tho

[broken skiff]

do u think that its better than using unbreakable

[craggy trench]

If you can play the medkits good absolutely

HE is kinda mid rn with how strong umbra and regen is tho

[broken skiff]

yeah that build i don’t play as often because it gets outdone in most fights

[mossy solstice]

Currently we have an overwhelming gearset or attribute meta for pvp

As reflex here said, Regen and umbra right now is the strongest meta currently. That's setting aside skill builds

[modern gull]

what are the blue mods for this?

ensnare resistance?

[half compass]

Yes

But don’t use ensure resist unless you are getting foamed, I think he forgot to take it out

[craggy trench]

Yea it's just the pic I had on hand

Emp sticky is a must for me, on umbra capacitor I run explosive sticky+defender. Makes you super tanky at skill tier 6 and sticky hits for 600k+

[modern gull]

i love sticky bomb

[turbid spear]

Me too

[lofty portal]

why not 3rd golan for emperors guard

regen should be higher and also gives more bonus armor from adrush

[mossy solstice]

I personally am a 3 Gila guy myself. I haven't tried the intimidate version of this build yet. Might have to try it

[lofty portal]

https://buildstation.app/td2/builder/game/qW6byrhe?tab=build

if you wanna run Intimidate i’d recommend this version

[mossy solstice]

Lemme copy this setup over to mxswat to calculate total Regen

The setup looks pretty much exactly what I'd go for

Not factoring in expertise or anything, just raw stats, it would appear that the 2 Golan route using Belstone + Emp Guard brings you more Regen (roughly 10k more) at the cost of an additional ~200k armor. Which isn't a bad trade, if that means you Regen slightly more but are slightly weaker than say a 2m armor build

However tho, the extra armor might be nice with matador to be honest

[tawdry pier]

I'm a contractor's enjoyer

[lofty portal]

i wanna add two things

• the difference will be even less with expertise factored in as the +10% total armor scales off the expertise armor as well

• when using Emperor’s Guard you lose one secondary attribute which would either be 10% HsD or 10% HazProt

[mossy solstice]

Why not just use hazpro on the guard knees lol

[lofty portal]

but that’s 10% HsD lost compared to Golan knees

because the 15% soill duration won’t make up for it

[mossy solstice]

Eh that's only 10%

I'd rather Regen slightly more VS do slightly more damage considering I'm controller VS KBM

The 10% only applies towards headshots and if everyone and their mom can DPS Regen, I may as well go a touch more Regen just to add a little bit more survivability compared to being able to do a whopping 10% more HSD as opposed to stacking on even more Regen. Bighorn already has plenty of HSD built into it that the 10% won't matter too much (nevermind the fact 30 expertise bighorn hits stupidly hard too)

I occasionally run nothing but Regen + Hazpro and use bighorn all by itself and it easily gets the job done (3 Gila, emp knees, everyday carrier, catharsis all with hazpro/Regen)

[lofty portal]

i get what you’re saying but that’s just personal preference

statistically the version with 3 golan will just be better

especially because you get 10% more regen from matador as well

[mossy solstice]

I'll look into it and see what I can make do with it. Should be dead simple since majority of it I already have and/or can craft it

I have the matador and I've got plenty of guard knees in the stash. Plus I have the blueprint for it

[lofty portal]

yeah do that

at the end of the day it will still come down to personal preference because you can't measure how important stats are for your playstyle

[mossy solstice]

Very true 💯 plus majority of all Regen builds follow the same brand choice patterns and same named item patterns

The obvious weird exception would be NBB regen builds

[lofty portal]

i’ll stay with my Regulus HazProt Tank anyways

[mossy solstice]

I need to make that honestly. How's harvest for pvp anyways? I've been toying around with tempest high end and it shreds

[lofty portal]

haven’t tried harvest that much

[craggy trench]

I can compare later

[lofty portal]

this would be the build btw

it’s easier to farm for a matador tho

[craggy trench]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OpPQTTEeNZYZ_XIuq_n01kMBsrviNpH1Gev0aIzIaCc/edit?usp=drivesdk

Can go either way, 3 Golan definitely easier to get

[craggy trench]

How come technician at Shield tier 6 ?

[mossy solstice]

Press and hold decoy with shield to pre charge intimidate

[mossy solstice]

I'd rather just use crit regulus at this point

[lofty portal]

i got that as well, the Regulus Tank i only use for very close combat

[lofty portal]

mainly because of pre-charging intimidate (it’s better with a foam instead of decoy tho)

and also because my firewall has no open slot for pistols so i had to use something else

[craggy trench]

Yea I was thinking for the foam precharge

[golden ermine]

Ew

[modern gull]

is it better to run 2 golan 1 belstone and emperor's guard, or 3 golan and 1 belstone

[broken skiff]

2 golan 1 belstone

[modern gull]

with emperor's guard?

[broken skiff]

yes

[modern gull]

more regen i assume

[broken skiff]

yes

how much regen do u currently have?

[modern gull]

shiiit i just optimized the belstone knees and my belstone gloves aren't optimized and i don't have the resources 💀

[broken skiff]

welp lol it happens sometimes

[modern gull]

here's what i usually run but it's with everyday carrier and 3pc gila

[manic mountain]

Damn is that a Big Horn? How much grinding did it take you farm that?

[modern gull]

i got it from the dz a while ago without even looking for it lol

[manic mountain]

Fuuuuck I wish my RNG was that good. All I can seem to collect is a damn Elmo’s Engine. I got like 7 of them

[urban aurora]

Farm Summit or DUA legendary

[manic mountain]

I just might have to. Only problem is the floors with the rogue agents ALWAYS over run me. I can take care of maybe 3 of them but anymore than that I get shit blown SMOOVE off

[broken skiff]

just do floor 10 leg, took me about 50 tries but i got mine thast way

[manic mountain]

My god you’re brilliant.

[broken skiff]

i would use a skil build i tried using striker n it did not go well lol

[manic mountain]

I’ll try my armor and assault build first and see how I do

[broken skiff]

yes and n make sure u dont kill all the enemies leave 1 check loot then reset idk if u knew that or not

[manic mountain]

I didn’t know that! That’s for the advice!

[broken skiff]

no problem

[lofty portal]

depends on what you want, you get more regen with Emperor’s but more Headshot Damage and Total Armor with 3 Golan

[modern gull]

which would be better then?

[lofty portal]

depends on what you want tbh

[modern gull]

3 pc golan if i want better ad rush, and 2 pc golan + emp guard for more regen

hmmm

[lofty portal]

3 pc golan also for more damage

[summer kelp]

@lofty portal the build po po wont bug us in here hahaha

[lofty portal]

yeah haha, i’ll just post the build again so we aren’t talking complete nonsense for everyone else

[summer kelp]

i got you man!!!!!
stand by for photos, also 1 haz aint gonna do shyt in PVP so its either full yawl and a Pulse res mod or no

[summer kelp]

blue to red raitio is up to you brotherman

[lofty portal]

i’ll have to test damage of foxes vs 2nd yaahl

[summer kelp]

trust me its more dmg, i no lie to you 10%< 8% dmg outta cover + 8%dmg to armor is king

Damage to target out of cover is multiplicative and I think damage to armor is also multiplicative.

[lofty portal]

well ofc with contractors and foxes i get more damage but i don’t wanna lose the HazProt rolls

that’s the whole point i farmed this buuld

[lofty portal]

yeah they both are (at least in the same way WD and HsD are multiplicative)

[summer kelp]

i didnt see you had a ton of blue, Ok how much do you have and what did you sac. for it

[lofty portal]

with this i got 80% HazProt

[summer kelp]

idk in pvp im a 100 or nothing LOL get me all the protection for all the things hahaha

[mossy solstice]

imagine how I felt when this happened after farming for it for 3 years just to say ive had it drop

ive had x2 ravenous drop and 1 BH so far

[manic mountain]

😩😩 EAGLE BEARER. I’ve been hunting that thing for so long. Does it still have only like a 1% drop chance?

[modern gull]

how so?

[mossy solstice]

.025% and I got this on a non-AR targeted day (SMGs were targeted DZ south recently)

[modern gull]

in the dz it's 0.024 drop chance

[summer kelp]

beats me

[mossy solstice]

the TL loot doesnt effect raid /exclusive drop chances tho just know that. it really was a unicorn of unicorns

[modern gull]

ohhh wait ik, with emp guard you sacrifice the hsd attribute

[summer kelp]

idk whats going on but I got this out out the DZ but I cant use it........🧐

[summer kelp]

not me hahah but im krazy

[lofty portal]

one more HsD roll than on the Emperors

[manic mountain]

Does that say April Fools? Did the devs send you a fake eagle bearer?

[lofty portal]

you sacrifice the HazProt roll tho

[summer kelp]

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahah

[summer kelp]

Do you know how hard it was to keep a straigh face LOL I was dying over here

[summer kelp]

I dont run haz pro on that build.....

[manic mountain]

What do you do with it at that point?

[lofty portal]

why???

and why tac drone and fire sticky??

[summer kelp]

because I dont......

[lofty portal]

fever dream fr fr

[summer kelp]

really..?

how new are you to div pvp..?

[lofty portal]

not at all new, but if this is a conflict build usually you have someone on a high dps build running it

on bighorn regen you want firewall for the medkit

[summer kelp]

I dont...i like to see....... and fire sticky pushes are god like

[summer kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cDN4G8HDSxY

[lofty portal]

i mean nice clip but i gotta say those enemies were not it

[summer kelp]

Well I guess I just find all the ez fights

[lofty portal]

well that’s good for you but i wouldn’t recommend those skills on a bighorn Regen build

[summer kelp]

ok 👍

[lofty portal]

just saying you could have gotten those kills with most builds, didn’t really show any strengths of the build

[summer kelp]

iight bro iight 🤣 theres many more in there

[summer kelp]

good thing Im not asking for recs, it works for me i guess it dont for you no big deal.

[lofty portal]

just asking, which server are you on btw?

[summer kelp]

are you asking where im from..?

[summer kelp]

^^if your asking in game im us east but i dont think that matters in conflict you get put where needed

[lofty portal]

i see, maybe i’ll see you in game when i return to pvp

[summer kelp]

kool beans!!!! it shall be a FIGHT!!!!! hahah

[craggy trench]

2 Golan 1 belstone emp

[golden ermine]

Fire sticky works really well on the build

[lofty portal]

was more confused about the drone and spec tbh

[summer kelp]

It’s very simple. I don’t like to be blind….. yes you can med kit push… but I see every move you make. What is stronger. Seeing everything or a blind push..?

[lofty portal]

if you play conflict just play jn a team with one person that has drone

[craggy trench]

Ton of people run in full team of spotter drones. It's weird on regen tho ngl. Doesn't make much sense to run all that regen without running efficient. The regen is so you can be tanky enough to kit+ be basically immortal with firewall kit and regen brands. Also not running hazpro on is not good imo, status will kill too fast. 50% hazpro with mods and catharsis are strong enough to counter foam and give enough time to armor kit while under status

[craggy trench]

This one is perfect

[summer kelp]

How about no…..

Look. My stats prove that I don’t need your .2 cent

I’m not med kit reliant you on the other hand, seem to be medicate rely, which is OK, but that’s not me

[craggy trench]

Kinda defeats the purpose of regen, if you aren't going to utilize medkit there's better builds to run

[lofty portal]

well i am just trying to help, can’t force you to acknowledge it but that’s fine

[summer kelp]

well again if you go to see all my regen vids/clips I dont need it

[summer kelp]

I app. it but I run unbreak And I dont med kit push in conflict, I hate being blind. now DZ yeah Im firewall all day for the medies.

And again my stats will prove I dont need medkit pushing

im 1.92 KD
2.96 KDA
and a 8.45 on W/L

I think I got this also my team spent 7 years at number 1 on the leaderboard I think Ill take there advice over anyone elses sorry

[lofty portal]

what’s your team?

[summer kelp]

me and 3 buddies lol

[lofty portal]

which Leaderboard are you talking about?

[craggy trench]

It's pretty obvious that none of the people in this clip play PvP regularly. First guy was using striker drone, second guy got foamed by your teammate, third guy was on health gate, then you missed an entire mag aiming at legs with bighorn. Killed another guy with 1/5 of his armor then finished a downed player

Not the best clip

[summer kelp]

I have a lot on my youtube

[craggy trench]

I'm just looking at what you sent regarding the medkits. You coulda ran full grey gear and did the exact same thing

Those players were not very experienced

The most dmg you took was from the umbra hybrid guy shooting a random sticky from too far away to capitalize off the stagger and then he got foamed by your teammate and died

https://youtu.be/Xcdkm6za9B0?si=CEfkhdisZR9Vzyfg
cod equivalent lol

[summer kelp]

that was pretty funny LOL

[craggy trench]

The way Div2 pvp is balanced reminds of the old school 3 lane cods with super crazy ttk

[summer kelp]

shipment hardcore gamemode was just.. just LOL it was great lol that was MW though

[craggy trench]

Classic

[summer kelp]

good times good times early 2019 before the..... yeah Im not getting into that LOL not here

[wet badger]

Stats mean nothing in this game broski

[craggy trench]

This guy is old and senile don't listen to him, barely played the game 😉

[summer kelp]

In a PVP game or mode of a game and someone tells you stats dont matter says it all. they are playing to have fun witch is ok I play to win and at 8.45 W/L I think im doing something right LOL

plus IDK why it even matter how I run my build for 1 its my game I paid for it, send me 100$ and Ill play it/ use what ever on a build you tell me for that day.

[craggy trench]

Hes retired for a reason dw

[summer kelp]

You right baby you right

[golden ermine]

God damn, going hard on poor boi

[iron flame]

Newbie with very little pvp experience. Somehow i got a ninja backpack and was looking around and saw this. Is this any good? Capacitor with 3 skill.? Would appreciate any help
Build Component Description
Weapon Slot #1 Capacitor
Weapon Slot #2 M870 Shotgun with "Flatline" talent & Linked Laser Pointer
Mask Blue Core Brazos with Crit Chance & Crit Damage
Backpack NinjaBike Messenger Backpack
Chest Red Core Fenris with Crit Chance & Crit Damage & "Unbreakable" talent
Gloves Blue Core Walker Harris with Crit Chance & Crit Damage
Holster Blue Core Picaro's Holster with Crit Chance or Crit Damage
Kneepads Blue Core Ceska with Crit Chance & Crit Damage

[tawdry pier]

Go for this if you wanna use ninja cap

Cores are adjustable to what you want

[iron flame]

I apologize but I can't recognize the brands lol. I am anew player

[tawdry pier]

Gearset is umbra initiative and gloves are the newest brand unit alloys

The holster is a named brazos called picaro's holster

[iron flame]

Yes i have that holster

So 3 piece umbra, picaro and unit alloy gloves

[mossy solstice]

How new are we talking here?

[iron flame]

300 shd

[tawdry pier]

Make sure your chc is as close to 60% and dump rest into chd

[mossy solstice]

DZ will be dead ASF so your only pvp content will be conflict until level 1000

[tawdry pier]

Adjust for conflict assuming no chc bonus so overflow crit by like 5%-6%

[mossy solstice]

Basically that's the only build you'll need

I'll let the pvp players do the talking I don't pvp anymore as of recently

[iron flame]

Yeah i figured that

[tawdry pier]

I think this is my third month

[mossy solstice]

Sadly for new players, and any pvp players really, this title ain't the best for it. PvP is just there

[mossy solstice]

After back to back to back to back games of cheaters after cheaters after cheaters I'm just done

I try to record fun gameplay and I just can't. It's that bad lately

[tawdry pier]

An insanely funny video in youtube was sent by a clanmate of mine where 2 lagswitch clans fought eachother

It was the most pathetic video you'll ever see

[mossy solstice]

You haven't seen my clips I've recorded over the past few days I've tried to pvp. It's beyond unplayable

Being a solo is hard enough but even worse when you just can't seem to escape cheaters. Idk what it is with US East having a very massive cheating playerbase. I can VPN to EU and have an easier time most the time

At the cost of about 160-180 ping...

[golden ermine]

Div 1 ended up having lagswitch 4vs near the end of the lifecycle

[wet badger]

Did you know that flappetto has a higher WL than you, he's the real GOAT

[lofty portal]

guess who i met yesterday in the DZ

VanillaIce, the guy that used to play that horrible music on volume 4000 so everyone had to suffer

[mossy solstice]

There used to be a guy in US East who literally made his entire account named as a radio station and he would blast some good tunes while going on the most craziest manhunt chases

It's been years but I haven't seen him around. I think his name was Rogue-Network.FM or something

[lofty portal]

that’s honestly quite funny

[mossy solstice]

It was such a unique experience that honestly sorta got me into pvp even more. It was seeing who I'd run into that was most interesting. Now it's all the same exhausted and cranky faces that complain about pvp being dead but are doing nothing to create a welcoming atmosphere to even walk into

[summer kelp]

I remember him.

[summer kelp]

He the goat..? That’s odd never heard of him.

[wet badger]

Yeah that guy's a legend, actual goat, any time u log in in EU he's there with DENISSSHE, another DZ resident with a great character, they will be forever remembered past div 3 as legends, honestly they should take down that hall of fame raid pictures and replace them with DZ characters

[wet badger]

Never heard of him? He's in conflict 247, 20k hours, there's no way u haven't, maybe check the win leaderboard, he's there

[summer kelp]

I just did, not even in the top 40 LOL

so wanna try again..?

[wet badger]

Anyone who really plays PvP, DZ or conflict knows flappetto, you must be new, maybe he finally quit I dunno

[summer kelp]

maybe name change.. and is it you..? like IDK seems weird your bosting about someone thats not you

[wet badger]

I ❤️ flappetto

[mossy solstice]

Rivens, nows your queue to tell these two to get a room 😄😆 you've got a good opportunity here 🙏

[summer kelp]

I just checked conflict lol im not going on a witch hunt for so myth

[mossy solstice]

I'm giving you the alley-oop for the layup!

[summer kelp]

I got it it was a good lay up

[mossy solstice]

Touchdown 💯

[amber ice]

@mossy solstice I'm letting the romance blossom.

[mossy solstice]

😂😂 I love that

[summer kelp]

My bromance!!!!!

[mossy solstice]

Homiesexual frrrr

[summer kelp]

LOL!!

[amber ice]

https://tenor.com/view/xdefiant-xbox-pc-ps5-ubisoft-gif-745843868406850139

[mossy solstice]

Just love me that damn gif. It's too cute

[summer kelp]

apperantly you are the div gif finder, Is there any for the baby war hounds or as I like to call them the yorkie-hounds

[mossy solstice]

Personally I have a huge amount of respect for malysh pan

[summer kelp]

did you see all the drama around him..?

[mossy solstice]

It was just the other day I random queue'd against him with his team and we somehow won. I play on controller and playing against his team is just absolutely difficult especially when you're a solo player

[summer kelp]

I got no beef with M-pan he raided me a few times in the past

[mossy solstice]

To be fair what part of The division 2 PvP community has no drama? It's impossible to escape

[summer kelp]

but apperantly he either has a hater that tarnished his name or he got busted for using but im not sure so I am not judging

[mossy solstice]

I stopped playing PVP due to the current game issues that it has as well as the community issues it currently has

[mossy solstice]

Based off of what I saw in the PVP community server, which it was publicly available to read, people just don't like him

[summer kelp]

I think someone tried to tarnish his name

[mossy solstice]

He has certain beef with certain people in certain people that don't like him and then you got those people that are okay with him and then you obviously have those people that absolutely adore him. For me, I don't know enough about the individual to really judge their character, but I know judging from their skills on division they're actually pretty good and when you're playing comp it's actually fun when it's good players against good players

And what's even better is his teammates weren't using any sort of cheese either, when I played against them,no big horn regen or dpsing with umbra. It actually felt like a level conflict match and it was fun

[summer kelp]

this is true

side note, this gonna be fun tonight hahah

[mossy solstice]

I don't play PVP anymore I quit. Because I already know exactly what kind of builds people are going to be running, and it's just going to be the same old armor regen meta that we have now

People are likely going to be running the three gila with haspro and they're also likely going to have Matador and catharsis with everyday carrier and a firewall medkit. Maybe one of them running survivalists and they're all hand holding if they're that sweaty. Which, with me being on us east, is highly likely

[summer kelp]

I dont even run regen no more jsut reggy and sniper build now for me LOL I got lazy LOL

[mossy solstice]

Both are pretty good builds, but the problem is is most people are going to likely be 4 stack clanning

And with the event like we have right now, high chances are that people are going to be abusing the benefits that you get with it

[summer kelp]

Oh yeah, when we had that crit boost. I was so over capped on critical hit croissant. Every bullet was crit it was the best lol.

[mossy solstice]

I stopped playing during that event

[summer kelp]

prob for the best LOL it was brutle

[wet badger]

I see no problem with malysh pan, his dz etiquette is a little lacking but that's no reason to dislike him, a fruitcake at most. He's one of the only remaining consistent div PvP streamers, but even he was on another game recently, the final pillars are dropping

[amber ice]

I am going to assume "fruitcake" means something else in modern slang.

[craggy trench]

Happy nice cool guy