td2-build-advice

[strong cave]

I've heard it a few times, but it's stupid rare I hear it anymore

Would occasionally run into vets playing Warzone and they throw lingo around sometimes

CHC % ?

[grand girder]

uhh lemme check also just got double crit

[strong cave]

Double crit would help the core roll, depending how good or bad

The build is all blue anyways so damage is not the focus

[meager fog]

Ah yes, a half naked Nicki Minaj sliding around is just the sort of environment you hear military terminology 🤣

[lament birch]

I love using military lingo when providing central intel for my cousins while they play their shooters lol

[strong cave]

Sadly, BF6 wasn't even a concept at the time 🤣 otherwise we'd find them there

[strong cave]

"Delta Cousin 49er, you've got hostile troops inbound to your position on Grid # 3376981, Over"

[lament birch]

I’d be like a Zeon grunt if I ever saw an RX-78 b-hopping around the corner with his rifle raised to my face as I tried to flank on 🅱️

[strong cave]

My brain read "RX-7"... I think chow would be proud of me

[lament birch]

I wanted to get those Gundam skins

[strong cave]

I just want my crit pointman 😔

[lament birch]

Purely to style on zoomies with Gramps or Aerial

[subtle bluff]

FC or FD..

[lament birch]

I’m NOT three times as fast as Char on the hot swap and reaction speed tests

[lament birch]

You mean the EX-8?

[strong cave]

Me personally, I'd go with the FC. The FD has been in the spotlight too long and the car has lost its specialty imo. Same way the R34 has been blow up way too much and the older models aren't seen as good

[lament birch]

Oh boy, I can’t send Gundam gifs D:

[strong cave]

But chow you're forgetting the FB as well 👀 and no, not Facebook

If I was rich I'd make a division wrapped car 💯

[lament birch]

I wanna get myself the watch and device that our agents have

[grand girder]

the rolls dont actually matter because if I were gonna use them I have enough to max em out

[lament birch]

What is FB-?

[subtle bluff]

Driven both. I'm too tall for a FD. FC I just like how it looks. FD is goat for what it is.

[strong cave]

FB RX-7

[lament birch]

<< BOYS, WATCH YOUR CORNERS! I SPOTTED A ENEMY SNIPER AROUND THE CAPTURE ZONE! BY ITS GLINT! >>

[strong cave]

My dream is the FC with the 13B Rotary. Must be a hard top. I want it in white as well and I want the taillights blacked out. I'd also have the bottom half wrapped in black so it gives off a panda vibe. I'd also figure out how to make a black rogue skull logo and have that go on the back as a badge 💯 I've got a model car I built of it sitting on my desk

[grand girder]

hey fifty brother you might hate me alot

[strong cave]

Did you craft double crit closer?

[lament birch]

Wait a minute- that’s not a Gundam, that’s a car

[strong cave]

Me personally if the rolls are high enough I would invest in maxing it out

[lament birch]

Having a mobile suit wrapped and treated like a car would be funny though

[grand girder]

again the mats dont bother me at all

I've maxed out worse

the kicker is it took 5 crafts

[strong cave]

I hate slow data speeds 💀

[grand girder]

also wtf would I run closer on? pve wise*

[astral kraken]

yes

[strong cave]

Closer chest, Ceska backpack, Grupo holster, fox's knees, ODogs, Fenris mask

Flatline weapons as well

0 stack damage mechanics. Vigi talent for the backpack as well

[grand girder]

huh I have all of those

[strong cave]

Basically you shoot, you're at max damage

[astral kraken]

linked laser too?

[grand girder]

aight 1 sec

[strong cave]

Technician is required for LLP

[grand girder]

all red core I presume?

[strong cave]

People sleep on spotter builds heavily

[astral kraken]

can you tell me why that thing is so inconsistent for me? it's been like that for years

sometimes it pulses, sometimes not

[strong cave]

Spotter? Sometimes in the range LLP pulses

[astral kraken]

LLP i mean

[strong cave]

Others.... Well...... It doesn't. But for me using it it pulses

[grand girder]

yikes I just spent 600 chest weaves on that closer

[astral kraken]

that's the real currency right there

forget exos

[strong cave]

Before overdogs it used to be contractors gloves. With coyote. Now coyote is pointless

[grand girder]

weirdly I actually havent touched overdogs yet

[strong cave]

Flatline gives amp, spotter gives amp,overdogs gives amp. Perf spotter is 20%, ODogs is 30%, flatline an additional what, 20%?

[lament birch]

Is it truly over for the doggos? /j

[strong cave]

70% amp total 🤯

[strong cave]

Nah, my dawgs 💯🗣️

[lament birch]

That is— YOU SAID 70-?!

[strong cave]

Please touch them. The talent is stupidly strong

[strong cave]

Assuming my math is right, yup!

Should be seeing around near 2m in crits with that setup. And I personally haven't used spotter in a long time

[meager fog]

Amps don't add together though, so it's not 20%+30%+20%

It's 20%x30%x20%

[strong cave]

I figured it wasn't as simple

[grand girder]

any subsitute for fenris? my dumbass deleted mine

[meager fog]

So, if damage before amp is say 500k, it's 500kX20%X30%X20%

[strong cave]

The build even before ODogs hit pretty hard so I can imagine ODogs would make it hit harder. You'd see an average of about 1.4m crits to the body at the time those builds hit

[lament birch]

I wanna pet the dogs— speaking of, tell me how devastated I felt for a whole minute after clearing out an elite territory zone and after I grab my junk-loot— I’m walking out to the nearby door as it’s raining and foggy- I see this big and fluffy golden retriever standing at the door all dough eyed, I walk over to pet and it runs away??? D;!!!

[strong cave]

Walker, IA, either of those

[lament birch]

UBI!! LET US PET THE STRAYS ;n;!!

[grand girder]

I wanna pet the possums

or racoons or whatever they are

[grand girder]

what gun just curious

[lament birch]

That doggo reminded me of this one golden retriever belonging to a distant Tia, she still acted like a puppy even though she was getting old ;w;

[strong cave]

Most say use flatline on Lexington but I personally throw it on the SOCOM MK or whatever it is

The AR 5.56 weapon that shoots sorta slow

[grand girder]

oh that kingbreaker or whatever it is? rpm too low for my liking

[strong cave]

Nooooo don't touch Kingbreaker

[lament birch]

Raccoons are trying to shift their strats to match with the current meta.

They want us to take them in as pets.

[strong cave]

I mean, if you have an AR AUG, can it take LLP? Aug mag size is good and accuracy isn't bad

I use it with my OD build and it plays okay

[grand girder]

yeah this is the thing I've barely used LLP at all so idk what it can go on

[strong cave]

You'll need the long laser rail for it to go on weapons. Carbine 7 would be perfect

[lament birch]

Why does the Invisible Hand always veer off heavily to the right side whenever I dare to shoot it-?

[strong cave]

If you got an AKM that would work too

[strong cave]

Recoil pattern

[lament birch]

That would make gorilla wife and co very happy

The gorilla in question

[strong cave]

I hate it when people in Europe call the AK's "Kalashnikov" 😭😭 bro just call it an AK

[grand girder]

I got a socom m1a maxed out in stash

[lament birch]

Flatline? On Lexi? I haven’t made a flatline build yet…I got a Nightwatcher or two..

[lament birch]

Or just call her by her “real” name from GFL2 lmao

[woeful glade]

what right now is meta solo dz pvp build?

[lament birch]

It messes with me :((

[strong cave]

Best in slot rifle is UIC Mod

[strong cave]

Bighorn Regen

You could do memento strikers but you'll have to play heavily towards landmarks to upkeep your stacks

I've solo manhunted a few servers with memento strikers. It's doable. Just exceedingly difficult since pvp is heavily a group focused mode

[woeful glade]

ok thanks, but the bighorn is much more viable then

[grand girder]

fifty do you wanna see this build in action?

[strong cave]

Definitely. You'll have passive regen built into it

[strong cave]

Touch the Famas or EB, you'll think Invisible Hand is a kid's toy

I used to be terrible with the recoil control on both those weapons when I was forced off keyboard + mouse for controller due to injuries I've sustained

[grand girder]

@strong cave builds pretty fun cause of no ramping needed

[lament birch]

EB? :0

I gotta check my stash for a Famas..

And the Hand looks like a toy to me— I’d buy it :))

[subtle bluff]

Eh...

Anything up to solo heroic is viable.

Good is a different story.

[strong cave]

PvP advice my friend, not PvE

It's a DZ solo build

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions Get out of here then! JK

[grand girder]

falls under build advice no?

[strong cave]

🤣❣️ we love ya chow

[subtle bluff]

Ya it does but this

[grand girder]

xD

[subtle bluff]

hhappens....

[strong cave]

Eagle Bearer = EB

[grand girder]

BB = Beagle Bearer

[strong cave]

Looks SOLID. Just get a Fenris mask please

[lament birch]

DOGGO GUN WHEN???

[grand girder]

but why tho? I am maining the mk17

[grand girder]

it exists my friend

[strong cave]

Allows you to swap between your rifle and AR without the loss of any damage bonuses between the two, since fox's gives you rifle damage and having Fenris boosts your AR. IA or Walker gives 5% to both but if I'm not mistaken 10% AR damage > 5% WD no?

At least for the AR category

[grand girder]

yeah I dont think I'm keeping lexi on it tbh, gonna run my meme 30 expertise cooler

I'm barely gonna touch this build as it is anyways so its no real harm

[strong cave]

Stackless damage is super super good. I use slower firing weapons with it and I play it like glass cannon so I don't really need "insane" burst DPS. With this seasons modifiers tho using the AKM or SOCOM is super good

[grand girder]

Still not sure how the overdogs are working tho, I couldnt be bothered reading the talent so just figured eh itll proc when it wants

[strong cave]

Yeah just shoot people and when you notice your damage ramp up, that's who you know to target

[grand girder]

something hierarchy enemy thing but im not gonna focus that hard on what enemys I'm looking at

yeah figured i'd learn by trial rather than memorize it

[strong cave]

There's apparently a trick to it where if you damage a specific tier enemy or so, you can insta swap targets and still get the 30% amp

[grand girder]

aka caveman, ooh big number on that guy!

[strong cave]

It's a nice build, I've been using it for a bit over the years. I need to dust it off bc we have ODogs now

[subtle bluff]

I made a PvE BH build.

[agile citrus]

what buffed rof pls?

oh Im dum, I swapped to striker for that test. ignore me

[silent storm]

Why run Flatline when you can run Rifleman and get 50% WD?

[vernal tusk]

Vector is the highest rpm smg, without exotic? Right?

[grand girder]

I dont care about the build, its about its premise

if I didnt use flatline the chestplate semi unicorn piece would be void

[subtle bluff]

It's all in the gearsheet

[vernal tusk]

I dont have acess

Do we have assault rifle with rate of fire like alegro?

[hazy steeple]

@vernal tusk You don't have access to a google doc?

[vernal tusk]

Where is it?

[hazy steeple]

📌 pinned in this channel, called "spreadsheet 2".

save it in your browser.

[vernal tusk]

Never mind

[hazy steeple]

It's pretty much the 1-stop shop for all things div2 info.
If you can't find it in there, it's likely that you're asking the wrong question.

[broken edge]

invisible hand named AUG

[native plume]

0.2% scammed

😭

[vernal tusk]

Oh

[velvet monolith]

i need someone to tell me what the best dps build is and the best solo summit floor 100 build is

[subtle bluff]

Strikers

[meager fog]

Here's the thing.

If you're soloing Summit 100, your build won't help you.

Your gameplay is your survival.

You can use the best strikers build in the world, with everything fully optimised. But those hunters are going to tear into you quickly if you don't know what you're doing.

[magic pilot]

Easiest way to clear F100
https://youtu.be/qDaEiwUaqug?si=whvWa2VsHLn41Z8S

[fallow oracle]

Whata best build for group and solo as i play with my friends as we try to do legendary strongholds aswell but everyone only post up solo builds

[solar sable]

almost every build can be brought to a group if you know how to play with it

oneshot, HHF, PVGC Strikers...

[fallow oracle]

@solar sable alr thx for letting me know appreciate it

[worn imp]

@magic pilot or @meager fog, Can the DPS from Oxidizer build be legendary viable?

[magic pilot]

Yea it's used in specific group strats a lot

Most of Capitol is oxi

[worn imp]

Just like shooting the stuff at a spawn door?

or area where enemies drop down to?

[magic pilot]

Mostly at spawns, but you need cc too

[worn imp]

what kind?

can banshee pulse suffice?

[magic pilot]

Nah you need foam

[worn imp]

you need foam to make it work? sad..

[magic pilot]

Boss room on Capitol is a good example, all the enemies spawn in 1 little box

[worn imp]

well how about running collector chest for foam grenades recharge and then just going full skill dmg?

[magic pilot]

You'd be losing out on glass

I wouldn't run oxi unless you have someone else to coordinate with

[worn imp]

lol at least the shit would work without needing a foam guy

im gonna do it lmao

[worn imp]

how about this: running acosta bag?

[magic pilot]

It wouldn't work it's gonna be too weak

[magic pilot]

Could do that, eclipse would have the courier too though

[worn imp]

this game is extremely frustrating when u wanna be creative

[magic pilot]

You need the foam to spread through walls

[worn imp]

??

[astral kraken]

because enemies will spawn behind walls (inside spawn closets) or when there are multiple spawns

and you want them all to be stationary for a while

[onyx sage]

yeah no one's getting foamed if they're still in spawn doors

[worn imp]

I made an abomination. Its a hybrid capacitator and Oxy build. Idk what it is even dont ask hahah...

[astral kraken]

ummm lol well at least run technician

[worn imp]

i cant get foam nades on tech. Im running 2 brazos pieces to make up for it.

[astral kraken]

oh i missed that. well break a leg!

[onyx sage]

dta and dttooc also benefit oxi btw, it's why people run skill tier fox on here

[worn imp]

yeah dont have the ones with skill dmg on em unfortunately

[worn imp]

do u think running Contractors + Fox's (both with skill dmg and skill tier) + 1 piece Wyvern would work well with my oxy build?

[onyx sage]

yes, it's one of the default configs

most run btsu over contractor tho for OC

[worn imp]

BTSU overclock is quite infrequent. If you want overclocks often you wanna run Axel (shiny monkey) you can OC every 30 secs there

so legit half of the time u play ur overclocked

[onyx sage]

yeah but you only OC once per encounter

[worn imp]

im gonna try my build with Axel instead

and run 1pc wyvern + fox's

[onyx sage]

you're not meant to overtake the dps role as oxi btw, either you do it right and the encounter just ends right there and you run to next obj or you don't do enough damage and you bring a dps instead

[worn imp]

eh ill mess around

[onyx sage]

i give you the context so you know how it works in practice, but ofc feel free

[worn imp]

ty

@onyx sage Supposing i run axel and get free OCs half of the time I play all the time, would that work? Do you really need the foam to keep em still or isnt like the 2000% extra Oxy radius generally enough?

[onyx sage]

you don't have enough oxi charges so that's your bottleneck

[worn imp]

? how

wym i dont have enough? i have 6 skill tiers

[onyx sage]

you spam them a lot

you need to spam them all for the spawns to die in time

and because of that you'll run out of them unless you know how to get them back for next encounter (dying by checkpoint)

[worn imp]

how do you "know" how to get em back?

[radiant dirge]

Anything else people can suggest to get more out of this ?

[hexed steppe]

you want to oc with btsu because it doesnt take a damage talent out of the mix like axel.

[subtle bluff]

context.. PvP or PvE?

[worn imp]

terribly setup, man. System corruption is just good for PvP

[hexed steppe]

also, artificer meshes well with oxi so it synergizes

[radiant dirge]

PvP

[subtle bluff]

Why streamline?

[strong cave]

I'm a bit confused why you're using bulwark. Additionally, you'll want Ceska chest not Grupo

[subtle bluff]

You don't get to use either skills..

[strong cave]

Sys Corr only gives 20% amp and there's not many good skills to use with it besides pulse, sticky, defender and decoy

[subtle bluff]

your CHC chance is low

[strong cave]

You can make streamlined work but you have to play very peeky and hit flanks

[subtle bluff]

Skill are too powerful in PvP not to use them.

[astral kraken]

@worn imp These are the two variants I run when I need it.

[strong cave]

Very true but they're not always required, it entirely depends on who they're fighting

[subtle bluff]

@worn imp there's a full oxi guide if you search for it.

[worn imp]

whats fll?

[subtle bluff]

It's very in-depth. I haven't moved it to the build hub

[strong cave]

My suggestion would be swap chest to ceska for sys Corr. Sys is heavily crit starved

[subtle bluff]

full

[strong cave]

I'd personally also just full ditch coyote if using streamlined for optimist or strained paired with streamlined (tinkerer mask)

[hexed steppe]

i been running oxi with 3 wyvern for the 45% duration... granted its just for when hive isnt best on my mortar setup

[radiant dirge]

I chose streamline to get the extra damage on instant as with other talents I didn’t want to wait on other talents , I play off corners ussaly but not when I need to I use the boost to make that push in or to isolate people for 1v1 , I chose bullwark to help revive people/ deploy when I get a crate so if I’m interrupted I can cave myself , and defender is same thing , I looking into using tinkers mask with strained and streamline and the dmg was lower by I think 40k ish

[strong cave]

Sys is in a poor spot but some variants can work

[astral kraken]

oh i'll try that, thanks! There's one specific area where I wished I had more duration.

[hexed steppe]

i use it at the end of heroic tidal for the generators and sams

[strong cave]

Were you using Lexington with Tink?

[radiant dirge]

I can agree on the low crit chance but would it be better to change mods for more or go to the cheska

[radiant dirge]

No , using a police m4

[subtle bluff]

@worn imp here
#td2-build-advice message

[strong cave]

Use a Famas instead that's your issue

Does more damage and shoots faster if I'm recalling correctly

[radiant dirge]

Maybe, not a big fan of the famas but I will do some playing around and see

[subtle bluff]

Not to be a butt can we move the PvP to #td2-pvp-discussions

[strong cave]

On mine I run it as a 3/3 setup with EB plus Famas as secondary

[strong cave]

I'm cool to take it there to try to point you in a good direction @radiant dirge

[hexed steppe]

if i wasnt running mortar ide be running it with btsu, tech, and artificer

[astral kraken]

so in other words you never run btsu

[worn imp]

Why not try to fit waveform into this build?

[hexed steppe]

purpose built and i would lose a lot of duration

its already stacking a lot of skill damage so more isnt as big an impact

[worn imp]

how about just running a piece of murukami and shiny monkey to make up for lost duration?

[strong cave]

At the cost of perfect glass and 3 wyvern

[subtle bluff]

No you need the Skill Damage

You only need the duration mods. The guide is very well tested

[hexed steppe]

would sill be losing 15% duration

[worn imp]

DPS > duration

[worn imp]

^

[subtle bluff]

You have to time and watch when waveform is on the mortar side which isn’t easy to do

Are we talking about Oxi or Mortar now @worn imp

[worn imp]

no but in general its a 15% skill dmg bonus on average

[worn imp]

im talking if u were to combine the two and use waveform

[subtle bluff]

No it isn’t on average it builds stacks to get to there. It is not worth it.

[worn imp]

kk

[subtle bluff]

If you used on either build half the time it does nothing.

[worn imp]

for one of the skills. for the other one, its boosted

[subtle bluff]

Waveform?

[worn imp]

ya

[subtle bluff]

Right so a Hive and a Mortar.

So when it’s giving the Hive Stack of Skill Dmg it does nothing for the build.

[hexed steppe]

if waveform was total skill damage i would use it... as of now, its regular skill damage stacked on top of 130ish skill damage

[subtle bluff]

Even then since you can’t see where it’s stacking on it would pita to use

[worn imp]

no dude, for the combination of mortar + oxy, couldnt it work?

[hexed steppe]

you gotta remember, this is a setup for 1 specific area with my mortar. if i was gonna pure oxi i would btsu artificer

[subtle bluff]

Oxi isn’t a great to use in normal PvE ads will just run out of the cloud

You’ll get like 2 to 5 ticks on them then they’re out of it.

[worn imp]

For leggos, Oxy and Mortars are the only DPS viable builds right?

[hexed steppe]

huh!?

[worn imp]

apparently this is what ive been hearing and from what ive seen it seems true

[hexed steppe]

you need to seperate dps and skill builds in your mind... 2 different things

[worn imp]

bro skill builds CAN do DPS. there arent many tho. mortar is the only one ive really seen be efficient

[subtle bluff]

Not really.

[hexed steppe]

bro, it sounds stupid saying skill is dps

[subtle bluff]

Mortar isn’t a DPS build by any means.

[hexed steppe]

they are skill damage builds.,. so when you say mortar/oxi is only viable dps in leg it sounds like you are confused

[worn imp]

in some ways Mortar is CC because enemies roll around when u shoot them

[subtle bluff]

How DPS does it do?

One subject at a time.

[worn imp]

okay fine DPS is the wrong term. "viable damage capability" would be more correct

[hexed steppe]

just call them skill damage builds and everyone will know exactly what you mean

[subtle bluff]

Skill Dmg build.

[worn imp]

lol oki

MMO mindset, sry hehe

[hexed steppe]

refactor turret/drone is a viable skill damage setup in leg

i see that way more than mortar

[worn imp]

press X to doubt. the insane RoF of the 10 million damaging mortars is just plain better than both a drone and turret combined

[hexed steppe]

you run legs a lot?

[worn imp]

y

[astral kraken]

press X to doubt

refactor is a pretty standard leggo build

[hexed steppe]

because i dont think you do... personal experience sees refactor way way more than mortar

[subtle bluff]

Oh and you’ve seen someone run a oxi/mortar build?

And do well?

[worn imp]

not at all, but im always curious to try out new combos to see if I can find something different for sake of fun. Never tried it, am here to discuss whether something like that could work. 🙂

[hexed steppe]

👆

want to revise

?

[worn imp]

When you shoot at 3 enemies all close together with 1 mortar shot for every 1,5 seconds, each dealing at least 9 million damage, the burst damage to that entire group of enemies is better than Refactor

made a correction

[strong cave]

Anybody here know if ODogs is used in incursion during wright boss fight over coyote?

[astral kraken]

If you're talking about legendary then IMO it's better to think of things in terms of encounters, not builds. First think about what specific encounter you want to deal with. Then think of a build that can deal with that specific encounter (or multiple specific encounters). If you're trying to make a creative build for all encounters then you'll be disappointed b/c generalist builds are consistently either shooting, foaming, or healing. Not much room for variety.

[hexed steppe]

thats fine, but its not more viable because of that fact... you need to be good with mortar to even compete with refactor in legs... and i bet ref will still come out on top. constant damage even though its less damage adds up quick

[subtle bluff]

When they are close or grouped but then they scatter. Where refactor it just tracks and shoot them, pull some agro and heal everyone.

[astral kraken]

Also refactor's value is the healing and aggro. The skill damage aspect is just a bonus.

[subtle bluff]

ANYONE? HELLO. WHAT AM I?

[strong cave]

Thank you chow 🙏

[worn imp]

the great thing about mortars is the fact that enemies rolling around to try to dodge the mortars keep them from scattering if you start shooting at them early when they all arrive together

[subtle bluff]

Things I know but also could be done differently or better with other builds.

[strong cave]

Local is about to see why we drone on and on

[subtle bluff]

The better one is EP sticky them all

[strong cave]

🍿🪑

[subtle bluff]

They don’t move even and they won’t shoot back.

[strong cave]

Sticky eh?

[worn imp]

huh? you only have 1 shot then u gotta wait 20 secs to get another

[hexed steppe]

i wonder if dude realizes im a mortar main

[worn imp]

unless u OC a lot which will take up valuable gear slots

[hexed steppe]

refactor still better in legs

[subtle bluff]

EP (eclipse protocol) + Sticky (Riot Foam)

[worn imp]

i have been a mortar main as well lol

[worn imp]

is this to spread the bleed from stickies?

[subtle bluff]

Not really it’s either on slot

[subtle bluff]

Any CC….

[worn imp]

yeah i know. but bleed generally isnt great for damage from what I know, thats why im asking if this would even be worth running for bleed ticks

[subtle bluff]

We’re not.. Riot Foam…

[worn imp]

ah right yeah, brainfart mb

[strong cave]

give this a try

[worn imp]

yeah ive seen, its insane CC

[strong cave]

With support damage due to Setup and for skill refresh + skill buffs for the entire team with OC

[worn imp]

the stinger hive addition looks interesting

[strong cave]

Pretty sure local put me onto using Setup bag. I used to run creeping

[strong cave]

Even with 0 skill damage attributes, the stinger hive packs a serious punch. Bleed will last a while too and have them go running. Except they can't because they're foamed

[astral kraken]

creeping 4 life

you guys are nuts

[worn imp]

but for a CC build like this why would hella extra CC potential (creeping) be worth losing for perfect oppertunist?

[strong cave]

Why creeping? Bc my dumbass didn't know the DPS guys can spread my cancer

[astral kraken]

its more about the initial foam. the initial foam is giga important unless it's a premade team.

[strong cave]

Is it just me or is foam wildly inconsistent with the perceived radius???

[astral kraken]

with experienced players they know what im about to foam before i foam it

[strong cave]

Like I can directly shoot a foam next to an enemy's feet and it registers maybe 25% of the time

[astral kraken]

i think if they're in certain animations you won't be able to foam them

[worn imp]

fair points, i usually play leggos with randos so i never build around coordination

[subtle bluff]

You need better The Setup so you can get survivalist!

There's a few way to run EP

[worn imp]

eh that feels very unneccesarily minmaxy but thats just me lol

[subtle bluff]

There is no fixed way to run EP why I haven't made a guide for it yet.

[strong cave]

Trust me I've been chasing that damn unicorn for years too. Double crit matador was basically a freebie due to the CD vendor bug, double crit closer eludes me and I already have the double Regen Emp Guard knees I stole off a goober in DZ

[worn imp]

@strong cave Why would u run The Setup instead of creeping death?

[subtle bluff]

Survivalist gives 10% amp to your teammates and a team healing and crossbows to take off armor plates...
Dunno if that's min-max...

[worn imp]

now we're talking, i gotcha!

[subtle bluff]

Helping the team to delete things quicker..

[strong cave]

20% overall increased damage to all targets marked with shotguns. Unsure if it's Amplified or just an extra 20% from all sources. I figure if the DPS guys can kill quicker, I don't need to wait 20 seconds for creeping to refresh

[worn imp]

wouldnt more CC give the team more oppertunities to delete things without interruption from the enemies

[worn imp]

it's 15, not 20?? or am i wrong

very valid point about the creeping cooldown

[strong cave]

Either 15 or 20. I could be mistaking sledge

[worn imp]

it's 15 i swear

[subtle bluff]

Setup 15%
Survivalist 10%

Sledge 20%

[worn imp]

Anywho... How to best farm for fox's prayer?

[strong cave]

Countdown, challenging matchmaking. Target loot Overlord

[worn imp]

Is retaliation a good method?

[strong cave]

With how dead CD has been lately, it'll work

[subtle bluff]

I am more curious what are you farming it for?

[worn imp]

i am making an Oxy solo build abomination :=) wanna replace backpack with wyvern with creeping, then go with contractors and fox's with skill dmg and skill tiers.

this is what i got so far

[subtle bluff]

🤮

[worn imp]

hahahahah hey at least i get free foam from nades and collecting helping out hahaah

[worn imp]

i really hate it too trust me (but I have to do it because im severely wierd with building)

[worn imp]

its probably not gonna give me enough foams cause of the nades hahahaha

[worn imp]

hey ya gotta f around and find out lmao

[strong cave]

Please take technician for 6 tiers

[worn imp]

dude thats why brazos lol. im ready to sacrifice 10% skill damage to be able to foam the enemies myself with foam nades, hence the collector chest

[strong cave]

And do yourself a favor and run a second red core

[worn imp]

eh. i want main dmg source to be oxy as well as it can be

[strong cave]

Acosta's for self OC could work

[worn imp]

plus gunner kinda makes up for a lost weapon core cause 5% extra fire rate and also faster reloads

[worn imp]

i know i would love to, but my nades gonna run out and wont get em back. collector is every 30 seconds back. maybe im wrong tho and i should go acostas idk

[strong cave]

Acosta's refunds your grenade

[worn imp]

only once per 60 secs 😭

[shell walrus]

But you also get extra grenade capacity with Acosta’s go bag

[worn imp]

still. when they run out im useless

[strong cave]

Real 💯 11 grenades go brrrrr

[worn imp]

no more foam go brrrr when im outta nades and dont regen as collector does

plus extra grenade radius from collector is huge

[shell walrus]

Then don’t just spam them. Utilize the grenade refund talent from Acosta’s and use your grenades only when needed

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff Can Acostas bag help me keep a consistent supply of foam nades for my Oxy build? then i dont need disgusting ahh brazos pieces

[worn imp]

bro how often do u need to foam? like all the damn time lol

[worn imp]

I also lose creeping death man

[shell walrus]

Even if you have both riot foam grenades and riot foam chem launcher, it’s not required to use either for every single encounter/fight

[worn imp]

mm fair

but creeping death being lost 😭

[shell walrus]

Then you’ll have to choose between grenade refund/capacity bonus or creeping death talent

[worn imp]

what u think?

cause the trade off also give me glass cannon

[shell walrus]

Well with glass cannon, it could work. Riot foam any hostiles then spray them while they can’t do anything

I just use riot foam to force enemies out of cover or to disable them for a bit

[worn imp]

the intent of the build is that i wanna use Oxy as much as possible

[shell walrus]

The Oxy? First time I’m hearing of it ngl

[worn imp]

oxidizer

[shell walrus]

Oooh

Oxidizer chem launcher is kinda niche imo. It can be useful, but it’s kinda situational

If you want to utilize the oxidizer chem launcher more often, prioritize skill damage/haste and skill tiers

[hexed steppe]

This should be a sign

[worn imp]

😂

hey i wanna do wierd builds and will go to any length to make em work. dont judge!

This is what I ended up with @shell walrus @strong cave

[hexed steppe]

There is no real synergy when dividing up your build. Acosta has a little more synergie but I doubt itll be worth regardless

[worn imp]

same, but cant hurt to try

[hexed steppe]

You could add 2 wyvern and 2 hanna in place of the murakami/shiney. Youll end up with the same skilldamge but more duration than the current setup...

Or maybe, 2 wyvern/contractors/foxs
😎

If you use an insync shotgun itll support oxi damage similar to capacitor

[worn imp]

True

[hexed steppe]

What are you seeing for oxi ticks on the collector and accostas setups

[worn imp]

havent tried yet im going to sleep soon lol

[shell walrus]

How many skill tiers do you have?

[worn imp]

6

[shell walrus]

Noted

Also run Technician instead of Gunner. It’s better overall for skill builds

[worn imp]

nope. want the foam nades. thats the whole point of acosta's: for free foam nades

[shell walrus]

Fair enough. Then again, Technician has Emp nades and you could run the riot foam chem launcher

[worn imp]

lol i love how Chow just checked tf out after he saw my first failed build atttempt xD

[worn imp]

this is supposed to be an oxy build, so cant do that, though wouldve loved to

oxidizer is chem launcher btw

[shell walrus]

I’m aware

[hexed steppe]

There is a reason he checked out

[astral kraken]

it wasn't just chow

[worn imp]

hahahaha

hey ya live ya learn

[shell walrus]

Tbf oxidizer chem launcher isn’t the best skill to use in general

There are better skills that outclass it

[worn imp]

we have had that conversation before, so yeah

me and a few others at least

[lost wren]

are the blacklisters kneepads of any note or is it just another gimmicky exotic that's niche or shows no usage potential?

[astral kraken]

niche at best

we'll see if anyone finds a way to use them but for now they're not worth the tradeoff

[lost wren]

taking 600% more amp damage is super fun
trust

[onyx sage]

inb4 they release a new set that heals the team based on damage YOU take

or gives bonus armor

nah there's no way it's worth it

[subtle bluff]

If I could only change it's core...

[scenic whale]

They’ll be great for some random niche challenge about taking damage any season might have 💀

[meager pike]

i asked this question earlier but i got a better pic, where do i even begin on making a better build?

i dont have the highest damage nor the highest armor im kind of lost

[meager fog]

Use the build hub, pinned in this channel

[subtle bluff]

In build hub start with the Farm guide

[plush lily]

i’m getting back into the game. need some help getting billy back up.

[quartz ermine]

build this and don't die. This game has reached such a deplorable state that one build is better than all of them.

[plush lily]

thanks

[astral kraken]

who told you that build is "better" than all of them?

[astral kraken]

Pick a build from this list:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nOwUSECa-1iLhET-mW04u6oMBdIdMjFjB2Ie25ziEA/edit?usp=sharing

You can pretty much progress top to bottom if you want. There's variety within every category that you're interested in.

[quartz ermine]

most players use striker for pretty much everything because it lets you kill the enemy in the shortest amount of time

every time a new gearset comes out the only thing that comes to mind is: can it beat striker?

[astral kraken]

Tipping Scales is on par with Striker. Negotiator's Dilemma has higher peak DPS potential than Striker. Headhunter builds can outcompete Striker in kills easily. Regulus headhunter can wipe entire spawns with one shot.

And that's not even talking about support builds which amplify a DPS's capabilities.

I'd also love to see you use the build you posted by yourself with all directives turned on.

[quartz ermine]

true, striker forces you to shoot at the enemy to build stacks while tipping scales only requires you to shoot, you don't even have to hit an enemy
"This game has reached such a deplorable state that one build is better than all of them"
Just because you prefer to play with a different build doesn't mean that most players will follow your lead. As long as the current build is easy to use, doesn't require additional mechanics, and allows you to deal as much damage as possible, it will remain superior to the rest.

[quartz ermine]

with that build I can play with all the directives enabled without any problem, at the moment I don't play with any directive because it doesn't bring me any benefit. I have everything I want and I don't need anything more. I just play for fun. I don't want to put in extra effort by adding directives to achieve the same thing.

[astral kraken]

Where would you get ammo? (with pistolero)

[quartz ermine]

Do you even know what this specialization does?

[subtle bluff]

Yes we do.

[astral kraken]

It won't replenish enough ammo for you to run open world with all directives.

[quartz ermine]

it gives you enough to kill someone, it depends on the player whether he is capable or incapable of killing the enemy

[astral kraken]

Open world has more than one enemy.

It's generating 97 rounds every 60 seconds.

[glad heart]

Yeah it cannot keep up at all.

[astral kraken]

Of course it can't.

The fact that he's claiming it does is really funny.

So let's say you turn on all directives. You start with 0 ammo. How long are you going to sit in cover before you start attacking your first control point?

[quartz ermine]

it gives you enough to kill someone, the enemy will drop ammo,you can switch from your main weapon to your pistol anytime you run out of bullets

[glad heart]

till it reaches 900+ rounds....

[astral kraken]

So 10 minutes?

Good time for a poo I guess.

[glad heart]

Most likely yes. I wait several minutes before attacking on heroic in the summit

Haha or a smoke break

[grand girder]

tbf this argument/debate is very weird because no one is running that build on 5 directives, it works with 4 - pistolero if its 5 open world you're gonna run a pistol build

[astral kraken]

That's actually my point. He's saying it's the "best" build but my point is that "best" is determined (ahem) based on the content/context.

[grand girder]

saying it can run 5 directives is a bit ludicrious but its a solid build for 4 and under

[astral kraken]

Oh and he said the game is deplorable because it's the only build to run.

[grand girder]

OD, nego, hh, hhf?

[quartz ermine]

if that's your preference to stay in cover for 10 minutes, you can do it, the game allows you to, or you can use the gun to kill someone and get bullets. I feel like I'm talking to a wall. :))))

[gentle lichen]

Y'know what can run at 5 directives with you holding down the left button? My beloved OD

[astral kraken]

Exactly. OD is perfect for all directives. And you don't need to waste time pew pewing enemies with a pistol to replenish some ammo.

And if you're in a team you now allow all of your teammates to run whatever they want.

So it's fair to say OD is "best" for all directives. Or headhunter.

[astral kraken]

Yes you can replenish ammo by killing enemies with a pistol. Which is really inefficient compared to NOT having to do that. I can clear a control point way faster than you with a headhunter build on all directives.

[grand girder]

tbf this is just what I run on 5 directives

dont play it all too often but it works a charm

[astral kraken]

sick

[scenic whale]

I just prefer optimized HEs for open world, strikers peak is nice but it also bars you from just running whatever guns you happen to enjoy at any given time. + any HE build optimized has more than enough damage for any open world activity

Strikers feels like something you only really want for legendaries or incursion/raids

For missions I can see it but what am I really saving time wise by running strikers vs a HE build ultimately so it’s just like use HE for enjoyment

[onyx sage]

i want to add that i know some people would prefer to run survivalist instead of gunner for pistolero as well due to the on demand ammo regen from cover to cover, but idk if it's worth it

[gentle lichen]

Hotshot with survivalist is so great cause a simple cover to cover even for a split sec gives you 5 round to which you could just keep playing off of too

[grand girder]

well its faster than tugging one out for 10 mins

[astral kraken]

Almost like the game has variety. Holy moly.

[grand girder]

no never, strikers is end all be all

[astral kraken]

🤯

[analog mural]

strikers is just easy to build when ur a new player and its viable in almost every content

strikers is the foundation u need to slowly branch away from it and explore other builds

[onyx sage]

no i mean i haven't played with it enough to know if the regen rate is high enough, but if you know it is high then it's worth discussing as well

[grand girder]

agreed but its wild to call it the best build compared to everything else

[gentle lichen]

This is the evil meta people think meta players are

[analog mural]

yea ik, its just very good at contents where u have high density of enemies while they are also being a sponge

[quartz ermine]

I don't care what you can and can't do. Don't try to force a comparison between me and you. In pve you can do whatever you want. If you prefer to finish a checkpoint with all the directives in the shortest time possible, then do it. I don't want to sweat for something I don't want.

[scenic whale]

Oh fs you can speed run early game with strikers no issue that’s what I did for all my friends lmao, stuck em on strikers and St Elmo’s then let them build stuff later

[astral kraken]

I don't really believe in "best" build but if you made me choose it would be this. It allows you to play more aggressive which means faster clears (including solo legendary).

[grand girder]

the problem is you gave really shit advice to a new player, thats the issue with tihs

[analog mural]

hell yea brother i mean the point is to quickly put together a build that is viable for endgame content

strikers does that really well

[astral kraken]

You called the game deplorable. A game that has a ton of build variety compared to other games. You said that to a new player which leaves a very bad (and wrong) impression.

[grand girder]

saying its the best build you can get in the game is highly wrong and may impact how he plays in the future

[quartz ermine]

That wasn't a shit advice, it was reality.

[astral kraken]

🤦‍♂️

[grand girder]

it's a good build, hell I use it myself but saying its the only viable option? brother lets be real

[quartz ermine]

and I won't change my mind, the game is in a deplorable state

[grand girder]

just because you lack the creativity to branch out of strikers doesnt mean you have to force that onto newer players

[analog mural]

no its not, the game has alot of diversity when it comes to how you build ur dps build

granted, striker is REALLY optimal for incursion, but its not the only option for raid either

some would run HE builds so they dont need to bother with stacks

[meager fog]

Considering the state of some games out there....Division 2 is in a very good state.

Its a healthy 7 year old game

[astral kraken]

Yoooo look at all of us agreeing for once

[onyx sage]

much of legendary which is a big part of endgame content, striker is actually not the best build either

[astral kraken]

Love to see it

We found a common enemy lmao

[meager fog]

United against the forces of stupid

[analog mural]

john division

[quartz ermine]

I didn't force anyone to use a single build, striker, for beginners, is very good and easy to use

[grand girder]

uh oh rivens gonna get you

[astral kraken]

thou shalt not summon who shall not be named

[meager fog]

Div2 could be in a much worse place. We could have weird anime crossovers and people dressed as Homer Simpson running around...

[grand girder]

its very easy to obtain and quite strong yes but you then said "This game has reached such a deplorable state that one build is better than all of them." aka referencing the one you advised him to build

when said build is no where near better than some others, in which we have explained and you refuse to accept

[analog mural]

honestly i wish i could convince my friends to branch out of strikers for open world activities where u dont need all that damage

but theyve been stuck with strikers like glue

[grand girder]

throwing this opinion onto a newer player is a very big problem because you are essentially telling them to get stuck on strikers for the rest of their playtime

[astral kraken]

1886 headhunter is therapy for striker addicts

[meager fog]

Strikers is the base, its versatile and easy to farm. Can be built several different ways that all work the same way. Its recommended for new level 40s for those reasons.

Not because its the best

[analog mural]

d50 headhunter hunters fury

[onyx sage]

honestly it's part they already have 1 build that can do everything, part they don't know how much faster or comfy other builds can do it. you can show them gameplay of how content is done with those other builds, if you show the right videos of how much faster they can be they might make the switch

yeah 1886 hh is like the easiest switch from a striker only main pov

[astral kraken]

the enemy is typing

[grand girder]

unless you get em to run it without determined

[onyx sage]

yeah you show them regulus instead, then they'll actually have to rack their brains

[quartz ermine]

and I'm not going to change my mind, striker is so versatile that you can use it for almost anything,easy to use, easy to build, after you get bored with it, you can build something else

[meager fog]

Bashing their head on the keyboard to get one of those hot takes from the back of the skull probably

[grand girder]

gotcha I'm not gonna change my mind that you gave shit advice (not the build the attached braindead opinion)

have a good one

[analog mural]

well i mean they just like dps in general and idk st elmo works too well with strikers tbh

most contents we play in: incursion, cd, raids are absolutely viable for strikers soo yea there werent any incentives to try out different builds

which meant im on healing duty 24/7 (i enjoy FI debuffs anyways)

[meager fog]

Show them Nego

[grand girder]

Us lowly DPS players are thankful for your service oh wise healer

[meager fog]

This is da wae

[astral kraken]

It is da wae

[analog mural]

FI is goated with the setup due to the amount of amps you can apply to one enemy its absurd

at least healing in div2 with FI its not just dropping heals occasionally but u can also contribute to damage

[subtle bluff]

SOOO.... Here's my thought.
Farm striker up first so you can do CD well and keep the striker build around for when it's needed.

[astral kraken]

new players should start with glass anyway

[onyx sage]

i mean they probably play open world solo too and that's where those other builds would shine

[grand girder]

the Ol'e pavement kisser

[onyx sage]

unless they only get on for co-op then yeah idk it's really just self-motivation-dependent

[analog mural]

naw we are usually in a party

im the one solo branching out especially for builds to support my teammates and idk myself with more build diversity

[meager fog]

Make them use PGC and stop using healer.

They'll soon change 🤣

[grand girder]

I tried doing rmm healing and constantly had to switch to dps because it was just taking far too long

I do not have the strength to endure that torture

[onyx sage]

i'm just taking their pov, they wouldn't take pgc because the default obliterate still works and it's not like they'd be speedrunning or wanting challenge for pgc to be relevant

[analog mural]

im just on healing duty when its leg, cd, etc...

otherwise for open world content they can manage on their own while i go have fun with HF blue core

[meager fog]

Some people just develop a default comfort level.

As AP says, if it ain't broken they won't fix it

[astral kraken]

i started a friend off on pgc and he trusted me enough to stick with it

now he's really really good at staying upright and its not his main game

[grand girder]

tbf it really is a sink or swim lesson

adapt or die brother

[scenic whale]

Let your friends experience the glory of actually having supports in a team

When my friends went from pure strikers to support/roles in a party all our clears went twice as fast lmao

[grand girder]

I think they have experienced this tho from what he's said, but trouble is they dont try healing themselves so he's stuck into running it

[gentle lichen]

Bashing your head against a mission on 4 red builds without changing strategy is the canon dark souls experience in div 2

[scenic whale]

OOF, I have the semi inverse issues of them never wanting to run any DPS so I’ve been the DPS slave for months now lmao

[analog mural]

i swear im gonna make these idiots use FI if it wasnt "kinda" difficult to put together

coz setup bp with skill repairs and haste alr on it

[scenic whale]

Do you even need all that skill repair, I ran like 0 skill repair and as long as they weren’t standing with their arms open for the bullets they were fine

If it gets that bad a chem shot does the trick

[analog mural]

hey 20% is 20% better chance of sustain during lovebird dps phase

if i go healer u bet ur ass im gonna chase for all that stats

[scenic whale]

Just use MA dog 💀 , it hard cancels the drone when they spawn it so you just get to freely wail on em to death straight

In fact it’s so potent it kills the sniper turret mid toss

And the box

[analog mural]

sure but if ur lucky FI is still better if u wanna one phase them

[grand girder]

yeah but you gotta kind of force them into change, otherwise you're gonna be stuck as healer for the foreseeable future

[scenic whale]

No I mean it will literally stun lock them into attempting to respawn the drones non stop

The lovebirds will not leave the center lmao

[grand girder]

if you're always gonna heal because you have the unicorn they will never adapt

[analog mural]

lowkey will try MA on incursion

[scenic whale]

It cooks dog I’ll see if I can get footage for you later this week

You can even kill the kid mid chase phase by just throwing a hive at it

So wipe the adds and throw the hive out, skip all the middle work of shooting it

[analog mural]

its fine i can do heals reliably and i enjoy healing on hard content

i dont enjoy healing on contents with minimal threat like heroic missions or open world tho 😭

[scenic whale]

You need the backpack CDR to be able to loop them

[analog mural]

u most likely run the bp anyways coz thats kinda the point of MA

[grand girder]

yeah this I can understand for the hard stuff like incursions n shit but you gotta put the foot down at some point surely

[scenic whale]

Since MA hard kills anything that counts as an enemy deployed skill (funny enough even BT mini tanks)

[analog mural]

i lowkey thought it would kill the dogs but nothing happened

[scenic whale]

I WISH MAN

[analog mural]

too OP frfr

[scenic whale]

I’ve seen it cancel Martinez’s mortar flare call but inconsistent

[analog mural]

ok now imagine MA killing skills every 0.5s

razorback hardwired jammer be damned

[grand girder]

I feel like DH is the reasoning behind this lol

[scenic whale]

But either way you get to kill Johnson so the fight is 95% done in 2 hive tosses

[analog mural]

high key

[grand girder]

buddy and lucy would be COOKED

[scenic whale]

Tbh tho I think our group is dumb since we always just burst Johnson down first

[grand girder]

"hey man we one shotting?" "nah lemme just change loadout rq"

[scenic whale]

But if we just lower Martinez’s health too we can 1 phase them without dealing with Martinez at all

[analog mural]

idk what happened to shooting johnson first coz the incursion pubs i went into theyd always shoot the FAT GIRL first

and the THIN BOY later

[scenic whale]

to be fair fat girl is great at rage baiting people

Despite being like the single weakest raid boss I’ve ever fought

[analog mural]

*shows image of martinez

incursion pubs: yo fat girl

martinez: not what im called!!

[native plume]

Anyone got a good Medic/Support build recommendation?

[scenic whale]

But yeah I’ll try to get some footage for you so you don’t get scammed going into it later lmao, it does cook but if the pubs don’t know what’s going on they’ll run from Johnson lmao

[analog mural]

🤔 FI healer

check google sheets on how to build it

[scenic whale]

Bonus points you get free overclock so you can dump out a Smart Cover for team wide 35% DTOOC too

And you can run BTSUs on top of it for extra memes

[analog mural]

my bad g the smart cover is locked behind BFB 😔

[scenic whale]

DAMN

~~ should get it it’s a good DLC~~

[analog mural]

i kinda wish smart cover retained its effects for like 3-5s after ur not taking cover

like how div1 sowrked

[scenic whale]

Overclocked Achilles is good too tho

[subtle bluff]

Above

[analog mural]

one time, a player who put on one shot build wanted to 1 burst the dps phase for wright

but bro was the only one with the 1 shot build while everyone is running strikers, and if we shoot anywhere while the achillies mark is on, it removes his mark

(not to mention iirc u usually need the achillies mark OC'd to deal huge damage)

so everyone has to wait for him to pop the achillies mark, while at the same time people could have just shot him and one phased him

[grand girder]

when you say overclocked do you mean overcharged or is it a talent? (i vaguely remember a talent being called this)

[scenic whale]

The overcharged state of the skills (for some reason I’ve always referred to it as overclocked)

[grand girder]

ahh gotcha all good

[scenic whale]

If it’s misleading to call it overclock I’ll change the way I say it

[subtle bluff]

Um.. OC Achillies doesn't do more than 0 Skill Teir Achillies

[grand girder]

nono my first thought was you saying overcharge

[analog mural]

so it just gives more marks to shoot at?

[grand girder]

I just thought I had a huge oversight on that overclock talent

[scenic whale]

I think it just gives more zones + more zone health on Overclock so it’s still nice regardless

[analog mural]

+15% amp on pulsed targets 😎

[astral kraken]

sometimes you need the headshot zone for them double dips

[scenic whale]

Sorry chef I’m a exotic gun enjoyer I’ve never used a gun that isn’t ACS12 for utility

[native plume]

Do you have anything else that puts in damage a bit since I have a similar one like this and its kinda Passive playstyle close to Div1 Reclaimer

[subtle bluff]

No idea about Div 1 stuff

[analog mural]

no i mean pulse OC gives u +15% damage amp on pulsed targets

[scenic whale]

Oh shit that’s wild

[subtle bluff]

If you want to be hybrid go Refactor

[native plume]

Well simply put it that its just too Passive and letting the Hive do 90% of the work

[subtle bluff]

It's not..

[native plume]

Plus teammates doesn't tend to stay in 1 place

[subtle bluff]

If you didn't read the guide FI is the mai support.

[analog mural]

uh, u have the chem launcher for that

hive is useful for when u need to lock down a zone

or pop OC to reset your teammates revive hives

[subtle bluff]

That build is the Meta support build

[native plume]

Alrighty then

[astral kraken]

miss me with those heals. i just want that juicy amp.

you can sit in a corner for all i care

[analog mural]

me and my 3 different amp sources on a healer build of all things 😎

if that isnt busted op, idk what is

[scenic whale]

You want to be actively shooting targets with Scorpio and use grenades with lefty to apply massive global debuffs to the enemies. Chem foam also lets you heal people who aren’t in hive/need an emergency top off

[analog mural]

...CHEM FOAM?!

[scenic whale]

I don’t even know what it’s called dog 💀

[astral kraken]

if the team doesn't need much healing just run a booster hive

[subtle bluff]

In fast leggo's I'm on Foam on FI

[scenic whale]

I call them chem foam, riot foam, burn cloud, and oxi foam lmao

[analog mural]

reinforcer chem launcher 😂

foam is the riot foam for cc

[grand girder]

you dont heal tm8s with your goo?

[scenic whale]

CHEM FOAM COUNTS

[analog mural]

FOAM IS THE ELEPHANT GLUE

REINFORCER IS THE HEALER OMG

[native plume]

Just trying something new, too much Striker and Heartbroken 😅

[subtle bluff]

40 mike mike

[analog mural]

heartbroken 💔

[scenic whale]

I heal my teammates with the sticky green glue

We are not the same

[analog mural]

its a gas canister that gaslights ur teammates into thinking they are at full hp

[scenic whale]

Bonus points if it also ensnares them

[analog mural]

bro is a sleeper agent working for BT

[subtle bluff]

there are plenty of builds in the Build Hub you want to look

[native plume]

Sure

[analog mural]

i like the random OC i get from MA causing me to foam myself due to the increased range

[scenic whale]

Nah trust bro I’m trying to put ensnare bullets on my homies ouro trust

Part of the plan

[analog mural]

the sticky bullets would jam up their guns tho

[grand girder]

nuh uh combustion

[scenic whale]

It’s preparing them for the next season with the amped to ensnared trust

[analog mural]

the goo launcher

[scenic whale]

It heals the enemies

[analog mural]

i remember reinforcer chem used to heal the enemies for some unknown reason

[hidden moss]

Can I make Aegis work in small scale PVE?

[shy willow]

Unfortunately it's just trash

[hidden moss]

Sad days

[strong cave]

@hidden moss That's not entirely true, you CAN get it to work for small scale PvE. I've managed to created a build for it purely out of boredom and determination. The issue with the set itself is that the enemies need to target YOU for it to work, and the players that pull the most aggro are the DPS players. However, if you use the chest piece and a decoy, the chest talent allows the decoy's aggro pull to count towards the damage resistance. It will work, but you have to build it in such a way that you're better off taking Future Initiative healer, Crowd Control, or joining in with the DPS players

I'll post the setup but please note this build is NOT RECOMMENDED for serious play. You'll be doing next to nothing besides being a sledge proc and overcharging. Every yellow attribute is Skill haste, and so are the mods

[scenic whale]

Yellow rolling everything just to force an overclock is crazy dog 😭

[strong cave]

Lastly, to wrap this up, you'll be busting your decoy frequently just to keep aggro pulled. You'll need to rely on artificer to prevent it from breaking. Plus it's for overcharging when you bust the hive, and for being useful to teammate skills. TRY AT YOUR OWN RISK

[astral kraken]

hahaha

[scenic whale]

I appreciate the pure determination that went into it tho

[astral kraken]

Yea that's creativity right there

[strong cave]

But but but but it's fun bro 🥺 decoy 10s cooldown

• every other build advice person that pops in here

[scenic whale]

I feel like we’re ignoring hardwired

[strong cave]

We are. But hard wired doesn't give damage resis does it? 😂

[scenic whale]

What am I resisting dog the feelings of sadness 💀

[strong cave]

Another thing you should note: yes that build requires TDI Custom

[scenic whale]

They’re not even trying to hit me

[strong cave]

Honestly you should see a clip of it at Leggo dua, the beginning. You can run right past every enemy and not one of them will bat an eye to you

Soon as that decoy gets dropped, they ALL turn head and shoot

[scenic whale]

Can’t you pull that off with just a normal decoy anyways

I remember seeing a run where there’s a specific route that lets you use a 0 tier decoy and get past all of them without being shot

[strong cave]

Have you ever seen an invincible decoy? I've taught some vets that yes you can keep a decoy repaired with artificer. If it works for shields, why not other skills? 🤣

The build is just so awful and memey that I had to keep it

[scenic whale]

It’s all fun and games until a WT Chunga with special rounds shows up and nukes it instantly, that said I will be taking this build and using it

[strong cave]

FOUND THE CLIP > #ask-td2-community message

[scenic whale]

I happen to get a Kard custom earlier during houndsman and I’m finna put it to use

[strong cave]

Just heed my warnings, it's super bad

[scenic whale]

It’s ok it won’t beat my NBB monstrosities

[strong cave]

Honestly the damage resistance the set gives is impressive. Pretty sure my clip showcased the resistance but I'm not sure. I can come back with more and show off just how much resistance it'll give. If I thought dropping a decoy was sufficient enough, I'd go with a defender drone as well. But that's sadly not the case and you'll be relying on busting skills when aggro is lost (+ overcharge)

[scenic whale]

Could I toss Provocator on it

[strong cave]

Aegis chest allows for decoy. It's a must sadly

[scenic whale]

DAMN

[cerulean smelt]

doesn't provocator allow the decoy to have more resistence as well? or am i mistaken it?

[strong cave]

Pretty sure it was however close to targets you are

[cerulean smelt]

ah, nm. maybe i misunderstood the provocator 😹

[grizzled light]

Got these two and oro, rec builds?

[strong cave]

Hold up I actually got you

[strong cave]

#td2-build-advice message < build here

Ravenous is niche for what it is, the talent is too specific for raid usage. PvE usage, not entirely the best but with the right build it works

[grizzled light]

Dope. Much obliged

[strong cave]

#td2-build-advice message

Clip of it on action, to back up the fact it hits hard. I do have clips of it in PvE against actual enemies, it's just like any other normal rifle build

[grizzled light]

Ah ok, glad to see it’s got some viability to it

[strong cave]

Not many are using Ouro since it got nerfed during Y6. Dark Winter has took the spot

[strong cave]

Yeah use ravvy at mid range or close range or against super tanky enemies. The M16 I have is for looooooooong range

[grizzled light]

Ah damn ok, luckily I got one of those too lol

Stoked to see how the new gear and weapons are gonna hold out this next season

[strong cave]

The new gearset is questionable. The new brand set is gonna be awesome. But it's not gonna slot too well on striker, definitely not the new chest + holster paired together. You'll have serious crit loss. Plus perfect oblit is only 4% better than normal oblit. Ceska is a must on striker for ARs and LMGs and Rifles (don't use rifle on striker). So you could take the new chest + 1 piece ceska for 4% better overall damage. Except you're trading coyote or overdogs which is pretty hefty of a choice to ditch either of those exotics for 4% "better damage"

[grizzled light]

I’m leaning more towards the group gear anyway. But I think it’d be fun for a tinkerer build over a meta especially strikers

[strong cave]

Problem I'm reading into with the new set, which many are confused by, is the talent description. You have to mark the targets and your teammates have to shoot your marked targets (or skills) for you to get the benefit. That's gonna be very hard to orchestrate everyone shooting multiple targets considering everything in this game is a Single-Target damage source. Nego dilemma is an exception to this

Additionally as well, by the time you even maybe get 25% stacks, striker will have cleared the room already

[scenic whale]

You can probably mooch off the strikers players and get stacks in about 2 rooms tops no, as long as you slam out a mark and they kill it fast enough you’ll get 2 minimum

3 if multiple people happen to target something together

[subtle bluff]

Brandset and Gearset

[strong cave]

Then when the room is clear, all that damage you had to put effort in for goes bye bye

Just run Nego

[scenic whale]

Wait does it insta reset upon room clear? I thought it was like 10s a stack for decay

[strong cave]

Sometimes it takes more than 10s to make it to the next point

[scenic whale]

You’ll be fine senor that’s like 1-2 stacks tops

[strong cave]

I'll have to read the talent and see what the stack decay is all about

[scenic whale]

Unless it’s a boss fight with virtually no adds then yeah you’re doomed

The way it’s worded you’d assume it’s 1 per 10 seconds so not too bad?

Now it’s also 3% and 2% crit (whatever the backpack buffs it to as well) per stack so it’s honestly not a bad gear set for super long fight with lots of adds non stop I don’t think

Contributed is also a weird term cause does that mean some dude can toss a foam shot at 3 people and that counts

[subtle bluff]

Concentrated Company – Gear Set

• 2 Pieces equipped: +10% Weapon Damage.
• 3 Pieces equipped: +30% Weapon Handling.
• 4 Pieces equipped unlock a new unique Talent.
  Talent “Camaraderie Talent”
• Shooting an enemy marks them for 7s.
• When a marked enemy dies, receive one stack of 3% Weapon Damage and 2% CHD for each Ally or Skill that has contributed to killing that enemy.
• Max stacks is 35. Stacks decay every 10s. Maximum amount of marks that can be placed is 4.

Chest and Backpack Talents:

Chest – Talent “All for One”

• Increase the amount of marks that can be placed from 4 to 8.
  Backpack – Talent “One for All”
• Increase the Weapon Damage bonus per stack from 3% to 5%.

[strong cave]

Would have to see how it holds up in legendary. I don't see it performing for heroic

[subtle bluff]

This maybe interesting for pesti.

[scenic whale]

If it also depletes every single stack on TP it’s doomed for open world pretty much

[strong cave]

Now the biggest thing to note is "for each Ally or Skill that contributed to killing the enemy"

[scenic whale]

If it doesn’t even have to be a damaging skill that’d be quite huge

[strong cave]

The wording makes me believe YOU can't be the one doing all the damage. Others have to shoot them

[scenic whale]

Wouldn’t some form of CC application be valid too

[strong cave]

Bluescreen maybe

[scenic whale]

Like EP is an easy pick to farm stacks on for one since their vile ticks is on everyone frame 1

[strong cave]

Or iron lung

[scenic whale]

Then you just clean up and it’s 2 stacks per kill

[strong cave]

Chow is right too, it'll be super interesting with Pestilence

[scenic whale]

turmoil hot swap

I pray to god the stacks are visible to allies or it would actually be impossible to use

[subtle bluff]

If you think about it it's a mix of HF and OD.

[strong cave]

In my opinion it's like OD and Unstoppable force on a gearset

[subtle bluff]

fair

[strong cave]

With the mark limitation taking inspiration from Nego plus the CHD

[subtle bluff]

well OD has marks

[strong cave]

It does. But OD doesn't have a target mark cap. Nego does

It's a weird mix between alot of the meta talents we have. Super creative, I'll give the devs props on that. But in practice? I have my doubts

Yannick still isn't 1k shd yet

[broken edge]

Bit late but it does count yourself, if yo go read the patchnotes of the PTS in the "known issues" part, it mentions exactly that the set count the player and isnt mentioned as a typo

[strong cave]

So if I'm understanding this correctly, the set also counts towards the player wearing it, getting the kills solely by themselves?

[broken edge]

Yes, 1 stack only

[strong cave]

Now for allies, does it give more when they help kill?

[broken edge]

Camaraderie Talent description does not mention that the agent themselves counts toward the stacks gained when a marked enemy is defeated

[cerulean smelt]

probably killing the targets you've marked

[scenic whale]

if it works the way it's "worded" it should be 1 stack per ally (not sure if ally skills count)
tag it with 2 skills that hits them that's + 2

in a perfect world i think you can get 6 stacks a kill

there's a mark limit but it doesn't say how many people can contribute

[broken edge]

More people hitting something the more stacks you get in a kill

[strong cave]

They seriously need to change the description to read "if YOU or an ally kills the marked target, you gain 1 stack" yada yada

[scenic whale]

does it have to be with a weapon or will CC suffice

for allies i mean

[broken edge]

I think CC still does damage even if 0

[strong cave]

You have to shoot them. Keyword SHOOT. Iron Lung and Bluescreen can be used for Crowd Control

Even Scorpio on crowd control setups

[broken edge]

Need to see if its counting hit or not

[scenic whale]

no no your allies

you have to shoot to apply the mark yes but it just says "contribution" so as far as the game's concerned what does that really mean

cause hitting a whole room with EMP jammer and vile is "damaging" it

[strong cave]

Unsure. Depends on the status you're applying I think. I know there's the skill part

[broken edge]

Because stuff like seeker mines are explosive and otherwise only turrets and drones would count for skills

[strong cave]

I definitely see people taking Pestilence with this set

[scenic whale]

if it's the same weapon damage category as the AWD it'd be huge for tick damage too

[strong cave]

Massive considering Pestilence scales off that

[analog mural]

ok guys ngl MA is busted OP for lovebirds essentially stopping them from being able to deploy any skills at all

[magic pilot]

It's only good if the group isn't good ngl

[astral kraken]

which is MA in a nutshell

[analog mural]

id say its interaction in the lovebirds fight is really interesting if u dont struggle with the rng where johnson consistently deploys a drone every dps phase

I might consider switching to MA instead of FI just for lovebirds

[magic pilot]

He only spams drones if you don't do enough dps

Fight is 1 phase, if not I'd rather just wipe

[analog mural]

thats good to know

[subtle bluff]

General it’s still slower than FI due to MA not have that many buffs and if the group is really bad heals can burn out.
It’s why it’s not the strat to use still. FI is faster still with most groups.

[covert granite]

any build suggestion for sniper 1 tap and hw explosion thanks

[worn imp]

@subtle bluff So which skill damage build can be used as an alternative to mortars in your opinion?

[subtle bluff]

why not? 4pc HW and Chainkiller and Arill (can't spell the Brandset the MMR DMG one) w/Vigil.

[subtle bluff]

context?

[worn imp]

context: legendaries with randos

[covert granite]

I'll try this aril is back pack right??

[subtle bluff]

ya

[covert granite]

thanks brother

[subtle bluff]

the buidl is Hotshot build just take out hotshot for hw.

you have to balance out Red cores and HSD in the hw

[astral kraken]

the only remotely viable thing is refactor and even that is borderline

[worn imp]

alrighty... thats the only one that reaches acceptable damage numbers? lol

[astral kraken]

skill damage builds in general are very bad for legendary missions

[worn imp]

and ím guessing u wanna do assault turret/strike drone?

[astral kraken]

yea. and you have to aggressively place them so they actually heal.

so like push into spawn zones and drop your turret at a high position

and keep a close eye on your drone to make sure it's actually doing stuff

[worn imp]

for sure. but the damage output of it, how is it. say if you yourself fire at a dude while both ur turret and drone is. How much DPS are we talking approximately?

[astral kraken]

i've seen so many refactor player drones stuck in narnia

[subtle bluff]

I mean you've said you've done leggo enough.... To be blunt..

[astral kraken]

idk but it wont be good b/c the RPM of turret/drone is low

the reason i said refactor is b/c at least it heals

if you want pure skill damage that's primary role is damage... it doesn't exist

[worn imp]

yeah its just I always only play like 3 builds. Whenever i go to make one i go here to ask about what experienced people's opinions are so I dont waste my time with builds that arent worth it

[astral kraken]

at least not in a way that's beneficial to your team

[worn imp]

I see but Im still interested to see what number you reach approximately with both the drone and turret and your capacitator firing at a dude.

[astral kraken]

also you said matchmaking with randos. in matchmaking people run all sorts of dumb stuff in legendary. ninja backpacks, blue builds, chameleons, you name it.

[worn imp]

oh dont i know it lol

[astral kraken]

so if you actually want the run to not suck you gotta go in hard

[worn imp]

like whats the RPM of the drone? i can figure this out on my own lol

and what dmg does it do per shot

[astral kraken]

i forget. it's like 700 or something. maybe 750? no thats turret

[worn imp]

lol okay thats fine.

[astral kraken]

the drone limitation isn't rpm. it's the flight time and how it can bug out and do nothing.

[worn imp]

lol

[astral kraken]

by the time you send the thing and it gets there and starts shooting... hell will have frozen over

and then the default behavior of flying back to you first before going for the next target

[worn imp]

ill take my chances, im desperate to find a different build to give novelty to this stagnating game lmao

[astral kraken]

its only stagnant for you b/c you're bad at the game

if you push yourself with hard content the skill ceiling is stupid high

(i say that as someone who's bad at the game too, welcome to the club)

[static ermine]

HB would be so cool if they removed the pulse nonsense and instead gave armor regen and increased damage on headshots. Kinda like classified striker from div 1 but nope..

[worn imp]

All due respect what tf do you know about it. I literally play leggos in groups often as well as with randos. I know that the skill ceiling is high. But you HAVE to realize that different players desire different things out of an ARPG like this. What gives me novelty these days in Div2 is not getting any better at fighting the enemies, but rather finding new builds to do it.

[astral kraken]

i mean there are a lot of builds to use lol

more than you have loadout slots for

[worn imp]

I have used all the legendary viable ones that dont include team support or healers.

[astral kraken]

i'm only taking issue with the "stagnant" comment - a day before they release a major patch

honestly based on what you said, the questions you asked, the builds you posted - i don't believe you lol

[subtle bluff]

HB isn't that bad. Armor regen.. is worse than it's bonus armor.

[worn imp]

im not arguing how the game feels for you. im just saying that personally i need new build setups to make the game interesting for me

[astral kraken]

like how do you not know skill damage builds don't work in leggo

it's easy napkin math

[worn imp]

because I havent tried them. that wont disuade me from trying to find one that might. You can say that im fishing for it here.

[subtle bluff]

It's not hard to put on build and try them out in CD.

[astral kraken]

what happened to oxi

[worn imp]

you mean my oxi setup? Yeah it's quite situational at best, but it was worth the fun of experimenting. That's the point im making. Different people get different things out of this game.

[astral kraken]

maybe i'm jaded from having to drag oxi players through it (in matchmaking)

[worn imp]

possibly

[astral kraken]

while you're foofing around someone is trying to hard to do the mission

[worn imp]

literally why i am here, to not ruin someones leggo attempt with experimentation. i am empathetic of not ruining someone else's run.

So pls dont make such assumptions

[astral kraken]

respect

[worn imp]

but i can defo see where the irritation can arise from hahah i have been there myself having to carry

[static ermine]

Or bonus armor, I just don’t like the pulse mechanic. And you can’t get any more bonus armor once you’re at full stacks.

[subtle bluff]

It's not that bad it's how it's a balanced.

[astral kraken]

what i don't get about HB is why they made it not stack on minitanks

and other proxies for that matter

[strong cave]

sounds like a hate speech towards clankers

[subtle bluff]

THAT 110

My HB experience on leggo being a "tank"
OH Hi mini tank runs else where lets the whole team deal with it instead.

[onyx sage]

it felt very band-aid for the root issue of "we don't want people to build bonus armor on decoys"

[strong cave]

whats screwed is in PVP you can stack striker on decoys along with heartbreaker. plus if you shoot the center of the decoy, it will proc EB tenacity

[subtle bluff]

wait wah...

[strong cave]

yes, thats a thing in pvp. its why you dont leave your decoy lying around when someone is using striker or HB

youre giving them free stacks by doing so

[onyx sage]

yeah i know striker still does that, it's why i said it felt band-aid because striker can do it when HB can't

[worn imp]

Probably 90% sure the answer is no but in leggos, can stinger hive in any scenario give helpful damage with a skill damage build?

[subtle bluff]

depends.. but mostly no

[strong cave]

factor in the fact you cant even pulse minitanks either, it really is just striker with extra steps morty meme here

[worn imp]

wtf does snowfall do lol

[meager fog]

Makes enemies look pretty while they burn to death

Serious note. Using EP burn with snowfall is pretty funny

[hexed steppe]

doesnt the snow put out the fire?

[worn imp]

now heres the real questions hahah

[hazy steeple]

Snow can't melt steel.....wait no, I take it back.

[worn imp]

this is exactly the build advice im looking for 😹

[meager fog]

Watching enemies swat at snowflakes while they burn is pretty funny

[urban latch]

Pretty sure steel resists ice, and steel is super effective on ice

[meager fog]

Ice is super effective against dragon though.

Should make killing Fay Lau easier

[hearty owl]

WHATS UP BUILD ADVICE CHANNEL

[meager fog]

The sky

[worn imp]

r/technicallythetruth

[meager fog]

We shall not talk about reddit. It is a silly place.

[worn imp]

On that we have full agreement

[astral kraken]

use striker

[hearty owl]

please refer me to the pinned sheet

[obtuse crystal]

All yellow striker?

[astral kraken]

sure

[subtle bluff]

I've done it

[astral kraken]

based rainbow striker

[subtle bluff]

Did that too....

[strong cave]

if you need one I can hook you up

want an aegis decoy build too?

[stone python]

What's the best talent for stack broker?

[smoky latch]

Try Brazen

[unkempt knot]

Can also try fast hands, helps the downtime on strikers. (also makes slower WPNs like Rifles become viable.)

[silent storm]

Finally finished it off. So what is the best PvP build for this.

[smoky latch]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[stone python]

Thank you

[vernal tusk]

I just wonder amor regen on umbra , on google it says it synergize with weapon damage - shall i use weapon damage, armor regen or how does it work by gaining stacks armor when battle , i know it works in cover , regain health, armor....

I now have armor, armor regen

[worn imp]

Does this include extra weapon dmg for allies?

[silent storm]

Pretty sure unless the Talent adds allies it is just for the wearer.

[kind epoch]

only reason i have crossbow is because i haven't unlocked MG and i still like to snipe some. or at least enter with explosive crossbow and do the rest with LMG

[pastel basin]

What am I looking at right now

[lone kelp]

Turret in countdown is a big no

[kind epoch]

i was just told to share my current setup 😅

[pastel basin]

Bubble if you want to run the lmg, use contractors gloves,

[kind epoch]

oh i was doing it for high dps

[pastel basin]

Insanely easy to get in countdown

[kind epoch]

i have contractor gloves too

[pastel basin]

For high dps run backfire fr ong

My beloved

[kind epoch]

what's backfire?

[lone kelp]

Exotic smg

[kind epoch]

dont have it

[lone kelp]

If u dont have it run the vector

[pastel basin]

Yeah ^

[lone kelp]

But first of all dont use turrets in countdown

[kind epoch]

mm i dont have vector either. i dont do well with smgs lmao

[kind epoch]

what do i switch to?

[lone kelp]

Reviver hive is a must

For the last round with the hunters

[kind epoch]

oh..i dont even have that unlocked...

[lone kelp]

Riot foam?

[kind epoch]

dont think so

as of like a week ago, i was mainly sniper

[lone kelp]

Should have it unlocked. Ur lv 300

[kind epoch]

i'll go unlock em right now. should be able to unlock both

so reviver hive replaces turret and riot foam replaces shield?

[delicate fjord]

So I only have a striker build maxed out. I’m looking for 2 other builds to focus on and max out to have some variety with legendary missions. Does anyone have a suggestions?

[lone kelp]

Shield is ok, just replace the turret

[pastel basin]

@kind epoch in countdown just run any build you want tbh, your teamates will do fine 99% of the time

I usually just run things I need to expertise

[lone kelp]

Im just pointing out the turret bc the hunters are gonna hack it and use it against him

[pastel basin]

ohhh yeahhhh that toooo

[silent storm]

Why is turret in Countdown a big no?

[cerulean smelt]

because hunters likes to take it over and kill your team

same with drone

[silent storm]

Oh yeah that would be bad. I never even use skill in Countdown really, it's just run as fast as you can and gun everything down

Countdown is really just 3 Builds, all red Striker/Tipping Scales with high DMG LMG or Bluescreen Dilemma

[cerulean smelt]

don't forget OD helps a lot in there

[silent storm]

Ok Countdown is 4 builds but you only need one OD in each team

[solar sable]

there's also a few players that take healer build to cd and it's really nice

[lone kelp]

Best way to counter hunters in countdown is with status effects

[silent storm]

I have honestly never seen healer in Countdown

[pastel basin]

Really? I run it every time, since I afk basically I make sure to run 4 pieces at least and put down a hive and a drone to chase someone.

[solar sable]

healers are so good when they show up in cd runs

[pastel basin]

That’s how I make up for being afk, lol

[pastel basin]

Fr thoughhh, or just any mission in general, you could legit be brain dead asf and they’ve got your back

[silent storm]

I really don't pay attention much when running it I just follow and shoot lol

Check the chests and then shoot more

[cerulean smelt]

nods when i run it i tend to just follow the crowd and shoot what they shoot 😹

[gentle lichen]

i appreciate the service of healer players but if only they could respectfully KEEP MY FI BUFF UP

[hexed steppe]

you dont need heals when every everything is stuck to the ground

[gentle lichen]

is that a new emoji

[hexed steppe]

one from my server

[subtle bluff]

Not fair he get's to use them here..

[cerulean smelt]

let's just say Local is hacking discord and call it fair

[solar sable]

mod abuse!

he gets the premium privileges lmao

[hexed steppe]

at least they are game specific