td2-build-advice

[wispy sluice]

oh mann, i really want to start pvp... long way to go

[patent fossil]

DZ is split by shd lvl so you are actually on slightly more even ground when you're below shd 1k as it's unlikely others you meet will have max expertise

[wispy sluice]

so if im correct, i can start playing dz without getting f'd from shd 10k's?

[patent fossil]

Correct

Although it'll likely be rather quiet

[wispy sluice]

but will there be no overleveld players there or just a smaller amount of it?

[subtle bluff]

You need a build too still.

btw #td2-pvp-discussions there is a PvP channel

[stark trout]

is there any spreadsheet that shows enemy HP at different difficulty levels and group scaling?

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jB1s_5IaWPkkXqR-aQibJMdE78sm4TmNPCMFYJ0fOFc/edit?usp=sharing

[arctic thunder]

Guys what's your fav build for fast runs of heroic mission replays for prio objectives? I usually just slap memento striker for the no brain, or hotshot white death if the enemy type allows it. Don't have a regulus yet for a pistol HH build. Maybe hunters fury with memento and SMG? With like a Dark Winter main?

[vestal ibex]

HHF, been maining a M870 pummel for the lolz

[surreal moth]

Whats HHF

[odd ginkgo]

HeadHunter's Fury. It's an HF build with Headhunter talent on the chest. The Regulus pistol is best in slot, but The Harvest with DTOC and Determined works well too.

At least I think that's what it is.

[onyx sage]

you're onto it

[odd ginkgo]

I've got one, so I figured that's what they were talking about.

[vestal ibex]

Boom headshot

[surreal moth]

Does Regulus get the +15 buff from HH?

[onyx sage]

what +15?

you mean HF 2p? no

[surreal moth]

Yes thats what I was wondering

[onyx sage]

it doesn't need it. it's frankly a small bonus

[tranquil wave]

1886 rifle onetap build heroic + all directives

[candid talon]

Guess what? Strikers.

I mean, depends, some missions I go Bluescreen Nego if I know enemies are prone to pack together and constantly come out of doors instead of already being in position. Army Base is a perfect example where if you know the spawn points, BS Nego will melt the whole mission.

If I feel like clearing while doing something else on the side, just anti disrupt turret drone build which requires zero attention with good positioning

[rich lotus]

can someone direct me towards making a build that deals like 1m plus damage per hit? i see videos like this all the time but mine just wonmt go that high

[sweet pond]

Brand new player, just hit level 4, any advice on skills/what to do?

[rich lotus]

im trying to upgrade my attributes on gear pieces.. is there a way to like increase them quickly? the only way i know is going out finding more armor pieces and extracting them in the library

[hoary sail]

upgrade difficulty u will have higher stats on ur attributes. Library is for recalibration stuff

[rich lotus]

thats what i mean, im trying to max out like the crit damage attributes on my stuff

[hoary sail]

then if u have it in library at max u can recalibrate ur piece with it

[rich lotus]

yes but thats what im tryna work out, whats the best way to max it out in library? sorry if ive confused it all lol

[arctic thunder]

find a piece with that max roll on it and extract it from there

[hoary sail]

the only way

[arctic thunder]

needs to be extractable from, so no exotics and idk if sets

[hoary sail]

👆

[rich lotus]

so farming the summit for the targetted item is valid?

[hoary sail]

countdown better nd yes

[rich lotus]

is there a way to like add everything possible ot the library in one go instead of going through it all 1 by 1

[onyx sage]

no because the game doesn't know which one to extract out of many

[fickle seal]

Has anyone tried using 2 Ortiz: Exuro + 3 Ongoing Directive + Ninja Backpack along with Iron Lung

[hearty owl]

Yes I have used it and can confirm that it's terrible. You don't have to make it. Please.

[novel ember]

guys do we have glitch in classified missions for xp ? also looking for player to play this missions who can help me ?

[storm escarp]

Did anyone test striker chest piece vs chest piece with obliterate ?

Which is better ?

[autumn yacht]

striker chest is better for when you’re fighting tanky things and can keep high stacks otherwise ceska obliterate

[storm escarp]

Why ceska, for CC ?
What CC and CD should I be aiming for with striker build ?

[autumn yacht]

check out the striker build in the pinned google build doc

[tired falcon]

put together a general purpose dps striker build if you haven't already; after that look into various builds (there's a spreadsheet or something people frequently pin here, ask for it), see which fits your preferred play style and go from there. For gear farming I suggest countdown but that's my preference/bias, you can also use summit or plain heroic control point farming with multile directives enabled

[tired falcon]

if you can maintain the striker stacks then yes the striker vest is mathematically better than something else with Obliterate, but you will rarely be in a situation where you can easily maintain the stacks with the vest.
Having said that, I keep a striker vest in my stash for those once in a while times where it's useful

[storm escarp]

More so about what should I be aiming for regarding Crit hit and Damage

[autumn yacht]

crit chance until 60 (or slightly lower if another roll goes over 60) rest into chd.

[cloud gazelle]

so I would like to know what spec I should be running/unlocking, I would like to play the role of threat output and damage soak so my friends can shoot everything, I really like the ballistic shield but its not necessary

[cerulean smelt]

we've got 3 things that generate threat but i feel they're too inconsitent to use

1. Decoy
2. Mosquito Pistol
3. Imminence Armaments 2 pc

[covert meadow]

Hi, I have a question about this build, im trying to understand do i change this holster or put the 3p hotshot adding fox knees , there's no pictures for this in the guide only the headhunter version with shotguns?

Or this? I think it's this....

[fresh grove]

Go with the second one

[covert meadow]

Yeah i just seen the words he described in the writing on the pin, @fresh grove the dodge is for the 1886 setup

Ty @fresh grove

[fresh grove]

😉

[covert meadow]

Im getting it im getting it 🙂 lol

[urban latch]

with hotshot thats generally a MMR focused build. The DCH is used in pistol HH builds where you would use shotguns to break things like chunga helmets and dogs

if your building for a hybrid between the two theres an argument for your DCH setup, but generally you pick one or the other

[covert meadow]

Oh ok, would you recommend to use that in missions solo, the dch, or just stick to the main hotshot?

[urban latch]

in a solo mission running an MMR is overkill. You'll kill everything with a 1886, so Id either go high end or HF with an 1886 and a pistol

the high end gets DCH, the HF gets the status and on kill effects

[covert meadow]

Ohhh! Alright, ty guys for helping! I like the high end with dch, ill aim for that 1!

Thanks again guys!

[candid talon]

Tinkerer going to absolutely break the game. Calling it right now.

[cerulean smelt]

i doubt it honestly

[dreamy valve]

I got some duplicate weapons ready!

[thorn urchin]

apart from the Police M4, what other flatline ARs should I try out? it's really good, but I also wanna switch it up once in a while

with long underbarrel slot for the technician laser too ofc

[bright raptor]

Honey Badger, Carbine 7, P416 if you haven't already

[candid talon]

Essentially P M4 and Carbine 7 are the main culprits. I think you can't use it on FAMAS iirc and the other top AR's don't/can't benefit from Flatline

[thorn urchin]

yea famas has short underbarrel afaik

[candid talon]

I mean, you can use Flatline on FAMAS but you shouldn't be able to apply the technician pointer iirc which makes it a far weaker version of Flatline

[thorn urchin]

yeah, so that won't do

[candid talon]

Badger and P416 are viable, but they're IMHO a step down from P M4 and C7, just try those, see what's better for you and roll with that. I love both so...

They all have pretty sick skins as well xD

[subtle bluff]

They’re all like within a few % each other in burst but then same with sustain. IMO it’s all players preference.

[subtle bluff]

Killer if you keep its talent is much more powerful than flatline.

IMO measured is better than flatline

[thorn urchin]

why is the P416 a downgrade? at least on paper, it has the same RPM and slightly better damage

does it just handle a lot worse or sumn like that?

[subtle bluff]

WD and Reload speed

Hold on I think.have something saved

[subtle bluff]

I did not sort this well

[subtle bluff]

Lookie above. There all fine to use.

[candid talon]

Recoil

It's just a matter of preference. They're all fine, I just favor a few over the others.

[subtle bluff]

There is no right or wrong answer with these ARs

[loud pine]

elmo 70 round mag on top

[subtle bluff]

This is not sorted in any good way.

[solar berry]

If only badger had an extra mod slot

[cinder wedge]

why can i only recalibrate 1 thing on my chest piece i wanted to switch 2 things and i have done it before but then when i tried to get the second thing on it i couldn't

sry if that's written badly I'm quite tired

[solar sable]

That's how recalibating works

[hexed steppe]

you can only recal 1 slot

[cinder wedge]

oooh damn

can you reverse it? and is crafting armor worth it?

[hexed steppe]

you can optimize allslots tho, and thats probably where the confusion is

once a slot is recal, the other slots are locked in to whatever attribute they have. the slot you racal can recal infinitely as long as you dont optimize *that specific slot

this is kinda why its ideal to farm correct rolls on chest/bag/weapons and leave the talent able to be rolled if something is nerfed into the ground

crafting armor usually isnt great, but if you are crafting for a specific unicorn it may be faster crafting than farming... but its always expensive

[fresh lodge]

Looking for a PVP build for DZ.

[flint spire]

Would it be better if I run Catharsis or Coyote's mask

[solar sable]

coyote's

[odd ginkgo]

Might want to try asking in #td2-pvp-discussions as they have more knowledge about PvP builds.

[heavy cedar]

for a striker build what talent should i put on police m4?

[subtle bluff]

Killer is the strongest, but only effective when it's active, measured, or strained.

[slate wedge]

Measured💀

[subtle bluff]

it's good it got a buff.

by numbers it's does more than flatline

[slate wedge]

yeah imo flatline is meh aswell

[mystic cloud]

Should I be using the strikers backpack? Or is ninja bike fine to use? Wanting a build w health on kill n stuff

[odd ginkgo]

Strikers backpack is preferred. It boosts your damage.

What is your primary weapon? I ask because Hunter's Fury works well with Memento backpack.

[urban latch]

I second HF, but you can also run memento on strikers. If your looking for survivability memento + crusader shield is the easiest way to add that to basically any build. Much better than ninjabike

[hearty owl]

Ninjabike Measenger kneepads are awesome

[half cosmos]

Which smg would one suggetst to be best with hunter set?

Chest and bag

Exodus gloves

Grupo/sokolova knees

Also how does termol work?

If i hit A and B is in range does it split my damage or does it do 100% to A and 50% to B

Does it apply/ stack with strega stack?

[half cosmos]

How are u countering the self bleed?

[flint spire]

Chem launcher

[mystic cloud]

Between st Elmo’s or maybe blue screen

[rich lotus]

how to i get the umbra chest piece? ive been farming countdown and ive had every grupo piece except the chest

[hazy steeple]

@rich lotus Are you looking for Umbra (which is a gearset) or Grupo (which is a brandset)?
Actually nvm: I see the issue. Set the Targeted Loot to "umbra" not "chest".

[rich lotus]

it was the umbra chest in the grupo set

[hazy steeple]

Grupo is a brand, Umbra is a gearset, they are 2 different things.
Ignore any names that things have on them, you only need to know what the name of the gear is.
e.g. "grupo chest".

[hearty owl]

I think he’s referring to the name of the actual armor piece.. like the cosmetic? Cause it sounds familiar

[hazy steeple]

Yeah that's tripped up newbies before.
As I said: just ignore anything but the word "grupo".

If you are looking for a brandset like grupo, search "grupo" in the targeted loot.
Think of it like this: if you go for that, you have a 1/6 chance (plus any named items) in your loot pool.
You go for "chest", you have every single brand in the pool.

[urban latch]

You really dont need haz pro with backfire. After 3 loads or once you reach max stacks you wont bleed anymore. If bleed is a major issue for what your doing thats just a sign that its a bad situation for the backfire and a hint to use something else

[sweet pond]

okay finally about to start working on a build, any advice on what to get first? Should I go for weapons first, gear first, etc? I think summit is my play, unless anyone has other advice

This is what was recommended to me

[patent fossil]

Old school

[sweet pond]

Then, what is current meta/what should I build

im not great at buildcrafting myself, I prefer to find a premade build and work on creating it, instead of figuring it out myself

[rich lotus]

whats the best attribute to roll on backfire?

[solar sable]

DTOC, always DTOC

[patent fossil]

There is a spreadsheet pinned here with a number of good build guides, the current most popular meta is strikers, so pretty simple to farm out. Negotiators dilemma and ongoing directive are strong alternatives.
Countdown is the fastest place to farm, pick your target loot and matchmake on challenging difficulty, then just follow your group.

[rich lotus]

does the backfire speciality not apply when testing it in shooting range?

[sweet pond]

The one from 2020?

[hazy steeple]

The spreadsheet builds get updates as needed, it's correct to the current meta.

[rich lotus]

is there somewhere on the spreadhseet that shows builds tied to weapons instead of gear sets?

[vestal ibex]

No one ties builds to weapons...

[rich lotus]

yeah but i like using the backfire and a build the primarily uses it

[onyx sage]

there's not just "one" build that can use it

[vestal ibex]

Take build>slap backfire on. profit

[hearty owl]

Stwiker build uwu

sorry

you dare nerd react me, fool.

I like that one more

[patent fossil]

Hunters fury is a popular option too. Also umbra for some reason (getting severe diminishing returns with so much chd there)

[hearty owl]

Everyone sleeping on the Cavalier Backfire tank build

[flint spire]

It's good if your team is well coordinated

[sweet pond]

Of this list, is there something that stands out? Should I run the same weapon for primary/secondary?

I did get a mia cqb so im running that primary

[hexed steppe]

No, you generally dont want the same weapon types os primary/secondary because of ammo limitations. The exception to this is ongoing directive with its bleed ammo refreshing all the time. What you run is build dependant also.
Elmo/m1a cqb my usually goto for highend/nego/striker dps.
I run flatline lex on heartbreaker.

[sweet pond]

This is my first time making an endgame build so I am very lost lol

[hexed steppe]

Just follow one of the guides. It tells the attributes and talents you want.

[sweet pond]

Following this one right now https://lite.evernote.com/note/0d1135cf-139c-394e-53f6-02c1b8b4cea9

[hexed steppe]

Striker is the easiest to farm

[sweet pond]

This one? https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0

[hexed steppe]

That's better for raids. For general use striker is more flexible and able to really dish out the damage

[hexed steppe]

Yes

Once you get that setup the rest is easier to farm

[sweet pond]

Okay thank you!

[stark dawn]

I think the primary/secondary somewhat depends on the situation. Yes, open world it is probably a problem, but in missions and raids people do run the same. In particular, running M1A primary/secondary was quite popular in raids before the Negotiator’s became commonplace (also because Boomerang came first, before the other DPS-non-stacked options became available).

[next ruin]

Anyone got any suggestions for a support build

[shy willow]

FI, EP, OD, etc

Check the spreadsheet

[slate wedge]

harvest has higher damage than regulus right? so might be better for pvp pistol builds

[autumn yacht]

it’s better damage wise but the explosion on reg is still very good too

[slate wedge]

true, although the explosion isn’t that important in pvp

[next ruin]

Spreadsheet?

[patent fossil]

See the pinned messages in this channel

[raw marlin]

Hey people this is best damage now play difficulty legendary

[slate wedge]

just use striker backpack and you got a great build

ninjabike bp is very bad for this setup

[raw marlin]

Why

[subtle bluff]

Do less dmg.

[slate wedge]

because you have no backpack talent and the only thing you gain is hazprot and explosive dmg which you don’t need on a striker build

[subtle bluff]

Backpack talents are strong and using NBB take away that talent.

[raw marlin]

Bro this is best forever

Backpack ninjabike people like this

[onyx sage]

you liking the build is fine, saying the build is best is wrong

[subtle bluff]

If you want to see an example of NBB nerfing a builds dmg.

[raw marlin]

Wow is very damage

[subtle bluff]

The build without NBB isn't what you should use but it still out dmg NBB with less HSD

[raw marlin]

Ok

[subtle bluff]

We call NBB a noob trap.

[raw marlin]

😲

[autumn yacht]

it is actually

[raw marlin]

bro

hmm

i need go is misson difficulty legendary

how

we can my gear

[solar sable]

you're losing tons of dmg with catharsis and whatever that chest talent is
Bighorn is more of a PvP gun

this is what the PvP guide says about Strikers

[hoary valve]

i was trying to build a pve build

[slate wedge]

i might just be too bad but i only get value out of it like 10% of the times i mill somebody

[raw marlin]

ok im leave bye

[solar sable]

Then:
Coyote's Mask
Ceska w/Obliterate

CHD first, then CHC but try to make it as close to 60% as possible

[hoary valve]

the big horn or the outobors?

[solar sable]

tbh, use whatever weapon you like, exotics are not always BiS

[rich lotus]

any tips on improving this build?

[hoary valve]

i have one

[rich lotus]

go ahead:d

[hoary valve]

one sec

[hoary valve]

this is what i run

here a video of the gear mods

one sec

[hoary valve]

and are you running with haz pro?

for the gear mods?

[rich lotus]

yeah

and some bleed res

[solar sable]

If you wanna keep some hazpro (no need for hazpro tbh) you can use ceska vest and gloves for the 2pc bonus
roll everything to crits and you're good to go

[rich lotus]

but without haz pro whenever i reload i would basically die

[hoary valve]

uh hf

i run hunter fury

and everything fine for me

[rich lotus]

so swap striker to hf and remove all the hp?

[solar sable]

you stop bleeding after three reloads or you can swap weapons before the gun is finished reloading and you basically don't get the bleed effect, the only bad thing about doing this is losing Backfire stacks

[rich lotus]

is ur damage output still solid with hf tho?

[subtle bluff]

Isn’t that why you’re wanting to run backfire?

We do plenty without Backfire in all content.

[arctic scaffold]

hey guys im runin this build but i can never seem to 1 shot the LMG guys from truesons or the hyena melee rushers is there a build that could?

usually the npcs that have like helmets on or is it not possiable no matter what build u use

[bright raptor]

no, that's the drawback of this build

[subtle bluff]

Just have to do a follow up shot.

[arctic scaffold]

which sniper has the fastest velocity cuz someof them i feel like are so slow

[hoary sail]

i use sr1, srs a1 nd m700 carbon.

[subtle bluff]

Velocity? RPM?

[tranquil wave]

White Death works personally

Idea is that you can use high RPM MR rifles but those builds must be expertised to have oneshot potential on elites

[subtle bluff]

Or not use NBB on a the build…

[astral kraken]

d2 is hitscan

[arctic scaffold]

whats d2?

[subtle bluff]

Div 2

[arctic scaffold]

lol gotcha

which wep should i optimize first ? i have srs a1 / sr1 /whitedeath / m700 carbon rep / m700tactical

heard alot of ppl like using the SR 1 idk whats the difference bettwen them besides 5 rpm

[violet juniper]

More ceska, less hazpro

[subtle bluff]

more or less player's preference.

[solar berry]

What’s the % Mean in the pic?

[violet juniper]

Where's my baby White Death?

[subtle bluff]

‎

[subtle bluff]

In dmg difference...

[violet juniper]

cheers chow

[solar berry]

I see now ok

When comparing

[violet juniper]

I'd be interested to see Mantis numbers with the talent factored in

[subtle bluff]

It's in there. Active.

[violet juniper]

it is?

[subtle bluff]

Mantis Active and just Mantis

[violet juniper]

that 50% amp really isn't doing much lol

[subtle bluff]

Waht?

[violet juniper]

oh NVM, it's doing a lot

[subtle bluff]

LOL I was you ok?

[violet juniper]

I had to reread it lol, that bonus is amazing

[subtle bluff]

Mantis is the most underrated MMR

[violet juniper]

It's the Memento of MMR's lol

[subtle bluff]

Ehh Memento gets used more than that.

[violet juniper]

mhm.. true

[solar berry]

Mantis is also situational

More better slapping on a white death and not having to worry about mantis talent for buff. But yes it’s underrated like chow said.

[violet juniper]

I mean, the talent sets up that situation really well

[solar berry]

I rather run a determined white death at that point lol

[subtle bluff]

Not really. You have to aim that's it vs a Determined player.

[violet juniper]

I think determined can breed bad habits

[solar berry]

It already does

[violet juniper]

it's ingrained in me to still try and aim for the head even if I have determined active lol

[solar berry]

Real

[subtle bluff]

It has for me... Only reason I'm not really bad is because of speedrunning so I have to aim anyways.

[violet juniper]

I'm a meh sniper in division anyway. I'm used to being a sniper in battlefield where you have to lead every shot

in division its hitscan and it really messes me up

[solar berry]

It’s a bad habit of me aiming for head than body on every shooter game. Even if I can one tap with a dev/god weapon for bodies

[violet juniper]

Playing rainbow has imprinted the headshot obsession into me

[subtle bluff]

THIS

[solar berry]

Battlefield, cod and destiny for me

Now cod is a heavy controller focused game so headshots isn’t as effective anymore. But I still aim for heads

[violet juniper]

Battlefield, Rainbow 6, Battlefront for me lol

could never get into COD, it felt like one of the stereotypical shooter games you'd see a kid playing in a movie

[solar berry]

I used to main R6. But ye, headshots for one taps

Weakest pistol in the game… pfff one tap across map

[violet juniper]

Brings back memories of playing Nomad pistol only lol

[solar berry]

Bro, friends and I ran a lot of pistol only matches. On Xbox days of OG R6

[violet juniper]

Bwars with pistol only lol

then you'd get the guy trying to play recruit for the super shorty

[solar berry]

Recruit in comp

Remember those days for shits and giggles

[stray atlas]

is hunters fury good?

[onyx sage]

very

[novel ember]

guys for healer build do i need repair or haste skill on my parts? ?? as i know repair is the best ?

[subtle bluff]

It's on the build guide I gave you

[astral kraken]

that's not really true tho. with determined you can kill things in ways you can't with mantis.

(i love the mantis)

first time i cleared aviary solo was with mantis, because heads are everywhere

[onyx sage]

so pro

i wish i could do that

[hearty owl]

so pro

i wish i could do that

[hazy steeple]

The MMR with built in aim-hacks is very pro, it's true.

[odd ginkgo]

Those are both good choices. I'd go with a Memento backpack rather than a ninja bike pack. Memento will give you some armor buffs. It will require you to collect the little tokens (i.e. Mementos) dropped by the NPCs you down. If you get a crusader shield, the task is a little easier to do when enemies are still up.

[arctic scaffold]

is there a guide / route to use for open world activites for SHd levels?

[hazy steeple]

@arctic scaffold There's a 📌 pinned guide over in #ask-td2-community on how to run the CP's, which are a great way to gain SHD very quickly.

[solar sable]

indeed

[slate wedge]

my guy out there ignoring DMs

[slate spoke]

which build tool is most up to date now

[solar sable]

Scooby's Build Tool

[candid talon]

No one replied but Dark Winter most likely.

[slate spoke]

what do you think the top AR for tinkerer would be, non named, non exotic. i guess i'm just asking whats your favorite base.

[candid talon]

Probably some Vector version

[terse scroll]

is there an expertise build or will i have to create new builds for all the varying weapons / gear i need to max out? i'm at 17 atm and it's slowed down a lot and just have named/exotic weapons and gear left now

[astral kraken]

you can always donate mats. scavenging points earn a lot now so during xp events you can donate a ton of printer filament.

[terse scroll]

yeah i'm doing that but even maxing out printer filaments it's like 3 items from 0 to 10 from the whole 9999 printer filament mats

[astral kraken]

yep, it's always been this way

[terse scroll]

it's just slow i guess but that is the grind

[astral kraken]

back in the day we had mules but now you get 3x scavenging. not the same but it's a grind regardless.

[terse scroll]

yeah i just missed out on the mule farming days was like just before 1000SHD before DLC and now i'm 3101 💀

[astral kraken]

skills are the the ones worth donating mats for

one mistake i made was i donated mats for things that i ended up using later

[terse scroll]

true, i'll start maxing out those next i think

[astral kraken]

do the really crappy ones first

like that pulse skill that no one uses

and heal trap

[novel ember]

is this rare ??

[livid sorrel]

what builds use the contractor? just got a pretty good one

[novel ember]

for healer mate

[subtle bluff]

He's not talking to you...

[subtle bluff]

LMG builds we only use in 2 or 3 builds where it's BiS.

[novel ember]

idk why they dont use (reply)

[subtle bluff]

He wasn't talking to you. He was talking about a gear piece.

[novel ember]

oh sorry that was my bad then

sorry im fully tired 14h on this game finally reached the max level

and why no one aswered me btw

[hexed steppe]

it depends on the rolls

[hexed steppe]

but chances are it is good for fi setup, and i use a status version on cc eclipse

im gonna assume its the named bag

[novel ember]

dude all blue no one drop yellow and the problem is im playing solo count

no way we need it named !!

[sudden cloak]

Huh

[hexed steppe]

if it isnt named, youre better off with a brand that helps your build...

[subtle bluff]

Read the guide again...

[violet juniper]

Backfire. Do not use HF chest and bag

if you have to use one, use the chest. At the very least, it's useful

[narrow locust]

I'm a returning player and was going to do the backfire build with 4 piece striker, momento bag and a yaahl chest but can't get a yaahl chest to drop in the dz to save my life. What other SMG or AR builds do u guys recommend for fast paced run and gun fun?

[solar sable]

I would recommend not using any hazpro

[odd ginkgo]

HF build with a decent backpack and talent.

Dark Winter or Lady Death.

Memento is fine for the backpack.

ACS-12 with Close & Personal

Or Rock N Roll.

Lady Death Umbra Initiative build is fun for run n gun with a speed boost on kill.

[narrow locust]

Nice ty n I'll look into so build guides for those

[odd ginkgo]

Check the pins for a gear spreadsheet, builds are inside.

Striker build with St Elmo's is fun too.

[narrow locust]

Ok and if really wanna raise my shd lvl during the xp event what is the fast way to level

[odd ginkgo]

Challenging difficulty with 3 or 4 directives
Grind Resource Convoys, Territory Control, and Public Executions

[solar sable]

I would argue it's slow but reduces boredom

[solar sable]

there's a method pinned in #ask-td2-community

[odd ginkgo]

Yeah I try to avoid grind fatigue.

[narrow locust]

Ok got to be honest lmao I'm old and new to discord, how do I find the pinned comments

[narrow locust]

I dont get a lot of time to play each week so I doubt that will be an issue lol

[solar sable]

click up here and then Pins

[narrow locust]

Awesome ty u guys and sorry for the stupid questions

[solar sable]

but not in this channel obviously lol

[solar sable]

nah it's okay to ask if you have any questions

[narrow locust]

I wish they would make an inventory management app like what destiny 2 has so I could play around with and tinker on items when I'm not on the game

[subtle bluff]

Trust we all wish the same and more.

[subtle bluff]

There are 2 builds sites if you want to use them.
The one in pinned message mx builder and
Buildstation.app

[untold niche]

Where the best skills for a eclipse protocol build with the vial mask currently I'm running pulse and fire sticky bomb

[amber storm]

How much crit chance is good enough for any build?

[subtle bluff]

50-57% CHC

[subtle bluff]

Chem Launch Firestarter

[narrow locust]

What's the strongest AR build currently/this season?

[untold niche]

Chem launcher fire and what else?

[subtle bluff]

fire sticky

[wet night]

im currently grinding summit looking for st elmo. I have a couple pieces of striker and chameleon. Is this a good combo to grind with or should i do a hearbreaker or something in the mean time?

[solar sable]

chamaleon is meh, keep looking for Elmo's

[indigo gazelle]

I’m coming back since 2 years ago, what are the new meta loadouts?

[solar sable]

check pinned spreadsheet

[indigo gazelle]

There’s a link to an external file

[solar sable]

it's... that.

[indigo gazelle]

I prefer to not open it

[cerulean smelt]

Then lose out on info

Then head over to youtube/twitch for builds and then come back asking why you can't do damage

[subtle bluff]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=sharing

[subtle bluff]

It's a GDoc...

[amber storm]

Ok so what set is best for pestilence DMG for harder content in using striker set rn but don't do a ton of DMG Iike I expected unless there is something I'm missing

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, pestilence doesn't get scaeld with striker stacks so the debuff isn't getting increased, that's probably the lackluster damage you feel
watched a youtube video where they used 4 virtuoso, centurion holster and backbone backpack.
tried it and i did see i got to at least 1 million tick off the pestilence debuff. might've been an extreme circumstance of getting 2 different distances for virutuoso buff + weapon swapping to pestilnece and full backbone talent stacks in play to get it destroyed that build after awhile

[amber storm]

Ok so I definitely did sum wrong

[indigo gazelle]

Exactly

[amber storm]

So basically striker is good with everything but pestilence? Because u can't boost the debuff

[cerulean smelt]

think one of the reasons people use it on striker is for a faster fire rate on the pestilience, but they build for CHC/CHD and keep firing

[amber storm]

Ok I have a better understanding tysm brother

[subtle bluff]

It has a PDF and a Web version.

[solar sable]

I had to censor my accounts lol

[subtle bluff]

I mean we do have a build for but the farming for it is... pita do you want the build?

[solar sable]

even though Mods are the only ones able to pin things in this Official discord server, people still don't trust

[amber storm]

Show me plz

[subtle bluff]

If people are that scaried of getting hack they should be on VM.

[indigo gazelle]

Everything good in home buddy?

[indigo gazelle]

Thanks anyway

[solar sable]

He said that because YT is filled with clickbait builds

[hazy steeple]

@indigo gazelle What they're trying to say is that the spreadsheet is made by people here, I will vouch that it is 100% safe.

[cerulean smelt]

well, your choices are limited. google spreadsheet doc here, youtube or twitch builds

[indigo gazelle]

Or the regular way when someone ask and someone answer?

[cerulean smelt]

well, 4th option is stumbling on their own with trying to make their own builds

[subtle bluff]

Above

[indigo gazelle]

All right Rivens, thanks

[subtle bluff]

The ones that did spend A LOT of time and effort to make it.

[amber storm]

I'm not new to farming for builds done it in other games

[hazy steeple]

It's perfectly understandable to not want to click on random docs posted on discord, it's a great way to get bitcoin miners on your PC.
this one though is safe.

[amber storm]

Ty btw@subtle bluff

[subtle bluff]

heh heh it's not just farming...

[amber storm]

Ik stat rolls too

[hazy steeple]

I mean, Countdown kinda removes a lot of the effort for farming.

[subtle bluff]

Um.. not for that Chest.

[solar sable]

anyways I'm craving ninjabike hazpro backfire builds!

[subtle bluff]

Like holy unicorn of rolls

[hazy steeple]

but Chow is saying that you need to know the interactions between the various Talents and such, as div2 is a big math nerds paradise.

[cerulean smelt]

nods sometimes i'm too lazy to play countdown i'll just craft things up to try it out XD

[high blaze]

after unlocked specializations can I unlock the perks for the skills I use first or just max out 1 at a time?

[subtle bluff]

You need to level it up by playing it

[high blaze]

so I can for instance level up the sniper till I get all the drone perks and then switch to another specialization?

[hazy steeple]

The "perks" are only active when you have that Spec Tree on, just an FYI.

[cerulean smelt]

if you didn't buy the year 1 pass
you can do the field researches for the 3 specializations to unlock them, then you gotta equip the specialization to gain experience to get points to spend in their various perks

[solar sable]

you can take advantage of this week's 5xXP event and level all your specs up

[cerulean smelt]

oh? thought that was just a SHD level thing?

[high blaze]

I thought you kept the perks when you swaped them, thanks for the info

[solar sable]

spec points every level up

[amber storm]

Why only 2 lengmo do u just not need the 30 percent lmg DMG?

[cerulean smelt]

named backpack is 3rd lengmo

[amber storm]

Backbones a lengmo piece?

That's confusing ngl

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, noticed in the upper right hand corner of the 2 you notice and backbone?

[amber storm]

Let me get my PhD in division 2 builds

[subtle bluff]

Quick review.

[amber storm]

No I didn't see that symbol 😭

[indigo gazelle]

Seems like eagle bearer it’s long gone rn

Was so hard to get 🥲

[subtle bluff]

Things that scale with Pesti tick dmg is. WD TWD DTA DTH DTTooC and AMP source dmg stuff.

[cerulean smelt]

you mean the april fool's Beagle Bearer? (> <)

[subtle bluff]

EB has been the same since it's been out and it's nothing special.

[indigo gazelle]

That’s sad, took a lot of raid games to finally get it for nothing

[subtle bluff]

It's an OK weapon it just doesn't do to much for PvE

[amber storm]

So damage to armor and health does scale? I watched a video the other day that said otherwise

[cerulean smelt]

and now you can get it in dark zone and last season was able to drop in Brooklyn Activation Caches apparently. i had no luck with that but did get a big horn

[subtle bluff]

Go test it. I know it does.

[amber storm]

I am not saying ur wrong Jesus

[subtle bluff]

95% of YouTube do not know what there talking about

Or just BS someone else build and copying to make content

[cerulean smelt]

with their own flair in it

[solar sable]

that and the paid bots to comment that those builds are amazing

[amber storm]

That's any game Warframe is worse Abt it thank god I figured out stuff myself

[hazy steeple]

I speak from experience: WF has about 3 good youtubers, and 2 of them retired 7 years ago.

[amber storm]

Who's the 3 I may know of them

[hazy steeple]

Just a tangent, that's my b for going off-topic.
here in div2 for "good" ones, we have Raucey, iKia, and......uh help me out here folks.

[amber storm]

Um ok then nvm

[subtle bluff]

YouTube stuff that still good, iKia, Hulcher, Toasty, Raucey, enny, umm.

[hazy steeple]

LocalDeck has their own google.doc, if that counts.

[solar sable]

sorry, did I just read an Average Player being mentioned?

[subtle bluff]

LOL

OK... For showcasing.

No one else shows how to melee bait

[amber storm]

Again ty for answering im having a better understanding of things now@subtle bluff hope u have a good day/night 🫂

[loud narwhal]

If I have 50% hazard and 50% bleed, does that mean I have 100% against backfire bleed?

[odd ginkgo]

I'm not fully versed in how hazpro stacks, but I am thinking 'yes?'

Try it out in the field and see.

[honest moss]

Hazpro is the bucket stat for status resists so yeah should just work. Hazpro itself isn't a stat % on your resists but just adds x% to all of them.

[subtle bluff]

I just don't understand how people get these build ideas from YouTube and the video itself always leaves out answer for them.. 😐

[amber storm]

Why u think I spent days looking for builds and asking here

Weeks***

[subtle bluff]

I mean you're not asking for hazpro bf dumb build

That's the current YT meta

[amber storm]

I don't think I wanna know what that is😂

So why do ppl say ninjabike backpack is good

[subtle bluff]

All dumb

It's a noob trap

[amber storm]

I have it read it don't understand the hype

[solar sable]

"it gives a bonus that acts as another piece of gear"

[amber storm]

That's it?

[solar sable]

yes

[amber storm]

It's not hard getting gear sets once u look up what to do

[solar sable]

and it has three different cores

[amber storm]

Is countdown not enough for ppl?

[subtle bluff]

Stick around you'll see at some point someone will come thinking it's good sooner than later.

[solar sable]

so true

[subtle bluff]

I think I should make a BF Hazpro NBB vs a good build

[solar sable]

if that helps with boredom

[subtle bluff]

I have an incursion video finallly to do acutally

these ppl use some crazy bit rates...

[hasty sluice]

So I now have to fit this into a build somehow...

Repair % doesnt effect reaf does it?

[subtle bluff]

Meh

[amber storm]

Ok that's enough farming for today

[hasty sluice]

I mean almost 60% repair skill on 1 gear slot is very funny imo

[subtle bluff]

EH. 38% Repair and 15% Haste on non mod slot piece works well enough if needed.

[cerulean smelt]

but on chill out mask? where none of the 3 pieces provides more repair skills?

[hasty sluice]

I have to prof the gearset anyway XD

never used reaf. does turret or drone provide better heals?

[patent fossil]

Normally you'd run both, with damage-boosting chest and backpack talents you should be getting all the heals you need while also killing stuff a lot faster

[hasty sluice]

understandable. my friend has an optimal setup of the gearset. ive been on a brand/gear set proff grind for a bit. so memes are about

[mossy dirge]

Which modifiers should i use to get more survivial chance? Like bonus armor...

[half cosmos]

This set does damage as heals or something right?

[hasty sluice]

% skill damage = team wide healing

[strong cave]

Need some solid PVP Advice from somebody experienced:

Is a full hazpro Cavalier healer even viable?

Looking to run a comparison between Measured Assembly/Cavalier and need to know if a Cav Healer is even worth considering. Using build tool to try and theorize out a build and finding myself forced to Ninjabike for the full hazpro. Along with a combination of other Brandsets that give Repair Skills/Skill Tier/Hazpro/Incoming Repairs/Health. Need some help with this one. I'm stumped!

[slate wedge]

i’d go cavalier with pefficient chest and survivalist medkit

[strong cave]

this is my current idea rn

I did toying around not taking the cav chest but I feel like the 70% might help a bit

Also the extra skill tier helps from tech. I do agree a survivalist kit + pefficient is worth it for groups

[odd ginkgo]

My friend is a new Game Pass player. He just recently hit level 40 and is wanting a couple of builds. I'll help him farm and assemble. We'll get him a standard striker build.

However he likes MMRs and Rifles so I was wondering what a good build for either or both of those would be?

[patent fossil]

for MMRs, Chainkiller chest, 4 pc hotshot and airaldi vigilance bag

For rifles, I guess 1886, chainkiller again, maybe 4pc aces with overlord vigilance bag? There's probably better high end versions though

[thorny kernel]

I want to make a Hunters Fury build for Ouroboros, anything i should keep in mind?

[odd ginkgo]

For the Hotshot MMR build, should it push Headshot and Weapon Handling?

[patent fossil]

Yup

[tranquil wave]

2 pc BP, Gift backpack, 2x Zoo chest + gloves or Headhunter chest + Fox kneepads

With headhunter chest instead of Zoo you only need 1 kill for 20m+ dmg

Weapon handling is mid personally cuz you can lower your sens so that works fine

[wild lily]

A build I've been enjoying lately is 3 pieces of Virtuoso, Memento, and either a Ceska or Grupo chest with Unbreakable and Eagle Bearer as weapon of choice. Just a casual build that makes EB feel better (to me at least), I'll try it later with an easier to obtain AR like the Chameleon as it's always felt pretty janky.

[cerulean smelt]

so 5 pieces, you put on an improvised gear for the 6th?

[wild lily]

I can't count, my secret is out

I'm using Fenris kneepads with crit damage and hit

[novel ember]

build for what

[hexed steppe]

Also consider crit based ar/rifle setup with negotiators dilemma . Usually it have same pieces that striker uses. Ceska chest with oblit or glass, coyote mask

[placid cargo]

I kinda been digging my 4 pc striker + Memento + Palisades chest w/oblit swap around wit St elmo/lexington , just need some better rolls on mods

[junior zealot]

have any legendary build for me ?

[sweet pond]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?tab=t.0 Obliterate or Chest set?

[urban latch]

it depends on what your doing and if you can maintain high stacks to make the chest worth it. Often it isnt, but when it is the chest is stronger

[sweet pond]

Then I must be doing something wrong, im barely able to keep up on challenging let alone heroic or with modifyers

[urban latch]

the lower the difficulty the quicker/less bullets you kill things, so obliterate is generally better for challenging/heroic, and the chest is good in higher difficulty stuff like the incursion, legendries, certain raid bosses, etc

[hoary valve]

any builds for heroic mode?

[patent fossil]

@hoary valve this one will do better than most

[subtle bluff]

Most are in the pinned messages

[short verge]

i guess the slingshot smg is for you if you're one of those bizarre freaks that want an SMG to out range a sniper rifle or something

(i am bizarre freaks)

[hoary valve]

i think striker hates me

[odd ginkgo]

Thanks! I was thinking that might be a good option for rifles as you don't need to build up a stack like Strikers. I'll add it to the list of builds to farm and try.

Any Rifle recommendations?

[hoary valve]

why isn’t striker not stacking armor

[subtle bluff]

That's heartbreaker. Read the talent.

[odd ginkgo]

Striker? Striker, Striker, Striker!

Ted Striker?

[subtle bluff]

Wait what?

[odd ginkgo]

Striker is so about bringing your weapon damage up. It has nothing to do with armor.

[hexed steppe]

M1a cqb /elmo combo is perfect on nego.
Boomerang talent

[odd ginkgo]

The post they were replying to.

#td2-build-advice message

[hoary valve]

bruh

[hexed steppe]

Nego is 😍

[subtle bluff]

Bruh

[hexed steppe]

If you have 3 Mark's nego can potentially out damage striker.
In target rich environments it's really good. The transfered damage also got buffed a couple seasons back.
It's my normal goto for dps

[hoary valve]

i think i just build a useless build

[hexed steppe]

It should work

Keep that revive handy till you get used to glass

[subtle bluff]

Glass Cannon maybe is your issue. That build isn’t bad you haven’t mod your M4 yet.

[odd ginkgo]

Need more mods on Lefty too

I prefer obliterate over glass cannon.

[subtle bluff]

Being blunt but simple it’s more of a skill issue vs the build. Go to lower difficulty and work up.

[hoary valve]

thats the worst thing i don’t have enough mods

nor the proper mods to

[odd ginkgo]

Go to the crafting table and see what mods you can craft. Farm the rest of the blueprints you need for the mods.

[hoary valve]

farm where

[odd ginkgo]

Farming mod BPs have been a while for me. I'm thinking control points?

[subtle bluff]

CP’s

[odd ginkgo]

There you go.

[hexed steppe]

Level 3 and 4 cp

[hasty sluice]

Is running 2 blue on umbra ok? messing around with the nimble holster. Also what guns are a good idea other than just dark winter/ lexington?

[hoary valve]

same but i was questioning my self should i use it or not

[rigid estuary]

This build is great

[hoary valve]

is this okay?

[odd ginkgo]

Prefectly fine. I run two blues on my Umbra build and still shred stuff. I prefer Lady Death for that build.

[solar sable]

modifiers are up to the player, we don't judge those

[odd ginkgo]

I run that with St Elmo!

[subtle bluff]

Almost any of the high RPM AR with Killer is very strong they actually do more burst DPS than Elmo to note.

[odd ginkgo]

Yeah, but I like the cc shock from Elmo.

[rigid estuary]

I like the extra damage from bee

[solar sable]

chow, I've been using Lexi with Ranger for Countdown in the extraction phase, do you recommend not using Ranger at all for that purpose?

[subtle bluff]

Ranger works. We like Ranger because its uptime is always there. My balance using Ranger is the 2nd weapon being something for CQB and more burst.

[hoary valve]

idc what you guys judge me on in game

[odd ginkgo]

We try to give advice on builds, not how you play the game. It's a subtle difference, but an important one.

[subtle bluff]

Insert gif. What do you want?

[autumn yacht]

noob build honestly

[rigid estuary]

It's good enough for what I'm doing lol

[subtle bluff]

There's nothing wrong with this build and honestly you can do any content with this from open pve to leggo to raids.

[tired ermine]

Geniune question - how is it noob build tho? I've been using this one as recommended as standard striker setup and clearing contents. Is there a better striker setup than this?

[solar sable]

Which one?

[tired ermine]

This one - the other guy said it's a noob build

I've been using the same one - I've been clearing contents at max difficulty, is there a better setup than this for strikers?

[solar sable]

It's the standard setup, yeah, but who said noob build?

[rigid estuary]

^

[hexed steppe]

[solar sable]

ah, yeah as Chow said, there's nothing wrong
they probably use the ninjabike alt

[tired ermine]

I'm not mad or anything at all - just curious lol

[solar sable]

which is, in fact, trash

[solar sable]

nah, I get your intention

[hexed steppe]

its probably considered noob build because its the first everyone get suggested... i guess the fact that its the strongest single target dps set doesnt figure into that thinking 😅

granted striker is a boring set, ngl

[solar sable]

I would never consider the standard striker's setup a noob build

[solar sable]

that's why I prefer blue striker's. It's top DPS!!

[hexed steppe]

oh no. we molding you wrong already..
-# get this agent a mortar

i dont mind striker tbh, but i only really use it where i can have the striker chest and bag. all else dps will either be nego or od

[hearty owl]

My latest idea for having “fun” in this game: run into the middle of an ad spawn with max explosive resistance and mortar yourself to kill the ads

[hexed steppe]

legend

[hearty owl]

Thanks to measured assembly giving the big 30% explosive resistance

devs cooked with this one

[tired ermine]

the OD and Nego builds you using - same as the one in the guides? Tried using them but probably too dumbass to properly set them up, unlike Strikers I can just go click fire and oga boga.

How I see the game is the faster you can kill enemies, the better chance that you aint dying

This is coming from a month and half player tho lol

[hexed steppe]

if its referenced from my build list its how i run. i can ss them. this is the od setup

[solar sable]

optimize those two cores or I'm going insane.

[hexed steppe]

that dont matter XD

nego like this or swap the mask for fox's

[tired ermine]

Okay, I'm a dumbass - probably didn't equip a wicked backpack in the first place. I think I used creeping death.

[hexed steppe]

yeah thats way lower damage that way

vigilance, and unstoppable force also viable. wicked is basically always procceed, which is why i use it

made sure to select the right weapon type to boost damage in your spec also, right?

[tired ermine]

Yea, gunner spec on both. On nego, didn't try AR yet so I'll definitely try that out, only tied LMG like pesti or bluescreen for the spread

[tired ermine]

Obli chest works on this too? Haven't tried GC on it yet.

[hexed steppe]

nego sings with the right weapons

yeah go oblit if not used to glass. still strong

[tired ermine]

hell yea, got the piece ready - I'll try it out.

[hexed steppe]

better?

[tired ermine]

With the nego build elmos - this is the stats I'm hitting. Should I lessen the Crit chance to 55 and increase CHD to 150?

[subtle bluff]

Idk if I"m saying this right but, I think the guy that said it is trying to, has the kids says it "Based"

[hexed steppe]

if running coyote, shoot for 50, otherwise as close to 60 without going over

[tired ermine]

Tried to switch some mods - hitting this one. Needs more optimize.

[hexed steppe]

you can multiply (chc x chd) for each config to see what the best option will be

turn the modifiers off if they are on

[solar sable]

Listen here you...

[hexed steppe]

😂

[tired ermine]

Optimized a bit - hitting these stats. Mods are off

[hexed steppe]

thats a lot more like it

[tired ermine]

Could reach 190 if my holster library has the max CHD lol

[hexed steppe]

still really good

youre using the nego bag, right

[tired ermine]

Yes, exact same setup as you have

I'm hitting around 700k - ads in the background are dropping like flies

[hexed steppe]

nice, it should melt. the way you swap targets gets people sometime , but once you got it everything melts.

[tired ermine]

This is on proficiency 14 elmos - I'm liking it.

[hexed steppe]

it become second nature picking up other marks... even when not running nego 👴

[subtle bluff]

NDNDNDND

ok my eyes got crossed

[tired ermine]

Correct me If I'm wrong - english is not my language. The 4pc nego passive works something like the pestilence? When you hit a critically hit a mark enemy they receive dmg or is there a delay/ticks on that?

[subtle bluff]

Nego is doing the damage to others not the weapon.

[tired ermine]

From my understanding - the other marked enemies gets damaged based on the marked that I'm currently shooting?

[hexed steppe]

your crits just multiply for each mark

[subtle bluff]

Nego is transferring the damage. Not the weapon your using.

‎

[hexed steppe]

there is always a little bit of confusion around nego, which i think contributes to not being a really popular set. those who know swear by it though

[tired ermine]

That makes more sense - the word "transferring" the damage, kinda explains it.

[hexed steppe]

yup, and with the bag, that transfer is 112% of the crit

some marks items that are immune can also be destroyed through transfer

[tired ermine]

damage wise, it's really good. I just want to know how it works as I was testing it suddenly other ads that I'm not shooting are dropping like flies, so I was thinking this is somewhat great for cc

[onyx sage]

it's borderline one of the best sets for dps

[hexed steppe]

yeah just make sure youre hitting those spawn doors for a sec before refocusing on an elite

[subtle bluff]

Or why i been being lazy just shooting the one that's the safest one to shoot.

[vestal ibex]

I'm actually shocked it's not a bigger thing with this seasons modifiers.

[hearty owl]

People don’t realize how insane damaging 3 things at once is 😭 and the ones that sorta do are running Bluescreen with it, thinking that there is some insane synergy

Point of the set is to kill things quickly not proc a 2s disorient and pulse

[odd ginkgo]

I just like the way Bluescreen shoots.

[hearty owl]

Actually I take that back, don’t use nego guys. Maybe they’ll buff the transfer damage % again 😈

[tulip charm]

Maintain the agenda

[hearty owl]

Re enable it in Incursion too please I want sub 5 inc clear farms

[shy willow]

You've been struck by

Health gate

[strong cave]

Don't let the bewildered kneepads talent users hear you say Nego is better

[hearty owl]

You’d be able to bypass with nego

[strong cave]

You might start a war with pitchforks and torches and put the flames out with Cooler rifle

[shy willow]

Can't even mark incursion bosses?

[hearty owl]

Yep, straight up does nothing

Insane way to patch something

[shy willow]

Scandalous

[strong cave]

Fun-
Devs: nerf it!
Helpful bugs -
Devs: patch it!!

GAME BREAKING-
Devs: 😪

[hearty owl]

The devs haven’t really nerfed anything for a while now. Reason why the game is so piss easy now

We gonna go into year 8 with Striker and Determined being meta 😃

[strong cave]

No but here we are still with directives still broken, stash bug still ongoing, and the infamous "armor bug" that's been ongoing for nearly 7 years

There's a shield bug as well. Not sure how it happens but the shield skill will become unavailable to deploy and it can take damage... Despite it not being deployed at all. Like the enemies will shoot at it and it'll take damage but you're not even holding it 😂 you can't even swap from it when that happens either. hive skills have also been doing that and so has smart cover. Can't deploy it, swap it, etc. idk how to replicate it otherwise I'd report it to the devs

Where the dye gets stuck every time you log in? If so, no. It's now on other apparel items too

I'm able to change the default looks of my backpacks bc I typically dye them black anyways but change the overall appearance

I also save them into my loadouts

I recently Dye'd faye Lau gloves to red/black for the bloody hunter skin. My loadout in my apparel has them saved as black. It didn't stick, just kept the existing dye and didn't care what was applied in the loadout. My gloves are now stuck red/black and I have to manually change them every time I log in

Hate sounding negative but let's be honest here: they can't fix the actual game but the moment there's new stuff in the store, they ENSURE it works as intended. If they spent half as much time fixing things + giving new gameplay additions, as opposed to focusing alot on store items... this game would be in a much better spot. Again, it isn't to sound negative, just a passionate player that wants to see this game continue to succeed

[autumn yacht]

i was just kidding it’s literally the staple meta striker build

[meager cloak]

I'm a little confused. Why does a +Health mod make health values go down?

[patent fossil]

Because it's equipped so you're looking at the change if you unequip it

[outer agate]

best specialization for hotshot? and best mmr?

[patent fossil]

Sharpshooter has the most obvious synergies, and the tac-50 can be useful to start a hh chain if you've only got elites to target.
Best mmr is a bit debatable, highest damage (excluding nemesis) is white death iirc, but many players prefer SR-1 for the improved handling and reload. As long as it does enough damage to one-shot everything you need to one-shot, you can just run what you like the feel of the most

[mild mortar]

I tried the Striker + AR build in the spreadsheet, the "Strikers (Y6 S3)". I got almost all pices max rolled now, and I'm using the St Elmos Engine. But at shooting range I only get like max 6-7 mill DPS and first I have to build up the striker-stacks each fight. But my All yellow LMG crit build feels much more solid, about the same DPS and you got 200 rounds to burst out, and no stacks needing to build up so my DPS is there from almost first bullet each fight. Am I doing something wrong is this just as it is?

I tried to switch to the St Elmos Engine on my Yellow LMG CHC/CHD gear and it feels even better than with striker

[strong cave]

how is a yellow skill tier or skill attribute build doing more dps than striker? thats absolutely not possible

has to be something you did wrong

[astral kraken]

Shooting range DPS is misleading/wrong. Can you post a screenshot of both builds with CHC/CHD stats sheets?

[strong cave]

unless you mean a high-end build, which is different from saying yellow gear. yellow typically is defined by the core attributes or sub attributes

[astral kraken]

I think he means high end.

[strong cave]

yeah thats what im thinking too

[mild mortar]

hm maybe, or does striker build loos effect just seconds after the strikers gamble? Maybe you always need it to be at 100% in order for a striker build to work?

[strong cave]

you typically get stacks with striker using an ACS12 as a secondary or you just keep shooting

[astral kraken]

Nah. Post the builds.

[strong cave]

we need to see the build. bc very little out DPS's striker

id also like to know what level you are and what your sub attributes are on that gear

[mild mortar]

well the striker build is simple:
Striker in Back, Gloves, Kneepad, Holster rolled CHC/CHD.
And a Ceska Armor with CHD/CHC
Mask Coyotes Mask
And
St Elmos Engine
atm I have 56% CHC and 141% CHD

but with my LMG "yellow" build I have like 55% CHC and over 200 CHD

[astral kraken]

What talent in the armor?

[strong cave]

What chest and backpack talent are you using? And what LMG?

[mild mortar]

Armor is Obliterate

Backpack is striker

[astral kraken]

Ok now we need to know your high end build lol

[mild mortar]

my LMG build?

[strong cave]

Yes

[outer agate]

i dont use sharpshooter bc the bonus headshot dmg is negligible. i use gunner for the extra armor on kill and faster reloads and faster rpm

[strong cave]

Sharpshooter gives more up front damage. For best 1 shot capabilities it's best to go sharpshooter. Can understand AoK but just use bloodsucker at that rate

[mild mortar]

There I use Providence in Back, Armor, Holster.
Contractors Gloves
Ceska Kneepads
Coyotes Mask

And a M249 Para LMG

all rolled into CHC/CHD and I got :
55% CHC and 210.3% CHD

[outer agate]

i tested it i lose maybe a mil dmg and you dont need maxed out dmg to one hit stuff

[strong cave]

Again, just use bloodsucker at that rate

[mild mortar]

talents Obliterate/Viglance/Strained

[patent fossil]

Hotshot gives armour on kill too, but yeah you can pretty much run whatever you like when you're just one shotting everything. Sharpshooter ammo regen helps if you're running pistolero though

[strong cave]

3 PC providence isn't bad. Ol' reliable. I'm still questioning how that hits more than striker. Strained isn't all that good rn considering killer gives more

M249 has low damage as well

[mild mortar]

Yeha I'm sure I can bump this build even more

[astral kraken]

Alright give me a few to math it out

[strong cave]

Glass Cannon

And instead use backbone backpack and ditch coyote

[astral kraken]

(You are def missing something but math will help describe it)

[strong cave]

^ this

[mossy dirge]

Do you gys have build with catslyst, backfire, hunters fury or striker, Wonder what chest i should use sokolov, i play mostly smg 🙂 or something similar

[strong cave]

Don't use catalyst. It's terrible. Coyotes outperforms it always

Just go 4 PC hunters fury with Sokolov + Grupo chest/backpack

[mossy dirge]

Ok, I thought about the talents, bleed resistence and much more. I use obliterate on chest, backpack?.

[mild mortar]

for the LMG build?

tried glass cannon but you die sooo fast 😛

[strong cave]

obliterate chest talent and bloodsucker will do the trick just fine. if youre a chad, go glass cannon and vigi. unstoppable force is also decent for a backpack talent. @mild mortar glass cannon has been tested. yes you take less shots (die quicker) but the difference between normal and glass cannon is near negligible

[astral kraken]

What talents?

On backpack and chest

[mild mortar]

Ok thx! Yeha you still die really fast when armor is gone so maybe its worth it in the end

[strong cave]

Oblit + Vigi

[mild mortar]

Or do you need those 30 Expertise on the weapon for the striker build to fully work?

[strong cave]

Glass Cannon is a slight learning curve. Knowing how enemies will react def helps

[mild mortar]

Ok this is my Striker build atm:
Any idead what could be wrong? 😄
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKhAsA2GBWETjAHRxhADCAUYYQFyQTQGigAcNqw+IymAnCcV6R9DrCDj9GeTLRjVR4rpzLiqMWcEbMZa0mF4lQxZbllrOGjsx3bUSQ+rAJ0EDKbbU2NNhDA0wmAOwxamVDgNZA5fYDxfQ0hMeywwnVIrAwNSb0Tk9SSuIA

[astral kraken]

@mild mortar Ok here's the math:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11-jqjLL2uOa4XLRtOJgRGjEFGS-0iZ6qhLIrVpbRDLs/edit?usp=sharing

And these are the two builds I used.

I made some changes just to save time:

• I replaced Coyote with Grupo in both builds so that cancels itself out. It's harder to math out Coyote because you have to assume ranges. I don't want to assume you're in optimal range every time.
• I removed strained because it's harder to math out. But it's only adding CHD which has diminishing returns when your CHD is already that high. The difference strained makes is 2-4% at most.

When a build says "full" stacks for Striker (SB) that means full stacks for obliterate and striker.

Same for half stacks and zero stacks.

[mild mortar]

Cool thanks! Yeha I had the same thoughs about Coyotes.. I have no idea what range I'm in so that must give me very random numbers from that mask fight to fight

[astral kraken]

I don't run Coyote anymore personally. I just run Grupo because I like consistency. If someone else is running Coyote then great.

[mild mortar]

Thanks will check into this and try this out 🙂

[stray atlas]

would pestilence with eclipse protocall multiply the pestilence curse to multiple enemies?

[patent fossil]

No, pestilence tick damage is a debuff, not a status effect

[mild mortar]

Awesome, I have saved a great rolled Grupo mask 😛

[astral kraken]

@mild mortar Anyway if you look at the numbers it's consistent with Striker vs high-end. You can see that when both builds are at 0 stacks (row 2 and row 7) then your high-end build is 7% stronger than Striker. That's one benefit of high-end builds over striker. You can damage immediately so it feels stronger.

But when both builds are at half stacks (row 3 and row 6) Striker is already ahead by 15%. Then at full stacks (row 1 and row 5) Striker is ahead by 42%.

[mild mortar]

Thanks! Yeha I guess I just have to get used to build up those stacks! Is Lefty a good way of doing that?

[astral kraken]

If you're running a Ceska chest then you don't need anything special to build stacks. Just use an Elmo and it'll build fine. However if the content is too easy (group challenging, solo heroic) then you will kill things faster than you can build stacks.

So if you're running Ceska chest and can't maintain stacks then Striker is not the optimal build for the content you're doing. But in my experience that situation doesn't matter because it's so easy who cares.

[mild mortar]

Ok but it feels like the shotgun is building stacks faster, how come? Isnt it 1 shot 1 stack?

[onyx sage]

each round has 8 pellets

[astral kraken]

The shotgun builds stacks faster because each pellet contributes to a stack. But to use it you have to find something tanky and get close to it.

And if you're going to do that then just use a Rock & Roll (also ACS-12 with bigger mag) and just use it as your main weapon.

[mild mortar]

Ah right! 😄

Cool thanks! Interesting

[mild mortar]

Thanks for your time, helped alot 🙂

[astral kraken]

If I'm running solo sometimes I just use a high-end build because it's insta damage.

[mild mortar]

Yeha I guess its depending on what you do?

I feel LMG is good for those hunter in the start of Countdown, no reload so they have time to armor up 😛

I can stand there empty my 200 rounds 😛

Or with bullet king more I mean 😄

[astral kraken]

@mild mortar BTW this build is stronger than your high-end build in every way.

You don't need the Ceska because you already have enough CHC. Replace with Fox's for more DTOC.

Assuming your LMG has the CHC 3rd stat (which you should try to do)

I added the math for that to the spreadsheet

It's like 10% better

[strong cave]

Honestly since he has prov chest I say swap to sacrifice chest piece

[astral kraken]

Agreed. Glass cannon is a life style and a good one 🙂 It's my main talent for DPS builds.

[strong cave]

Or well, your build I mean

[mild mortar]

awesome! a lot to try out now 🙂 Thanks!

[astral kraken]

@mild mortar Added the glass cannon version to the spreadsheet. It's stronger than Striker at half stacks 🙂 And there is zero stack building (no obliterate) so instant damage.

[onyx sage]

my baby

[astral kraken]

almost twins!

[mild mortar]

Thanks! Will try it again then 🙂

[strong cave]

Is that measured on a famas????

[onyx sage]

yes

i use it for bursting down a health target at mid range

[astral kraken]

@mild mortar Oops I messed up the math in the second half. The build I recommended (with Fox's) is only a little better than your current one. Still better but not as much. And glass is a little worse than 1/2 stack Striker but close.

In general you'll find that Striker is just better than your high-end when you get use to it. Mainly because it scales with the difficulty of content and peaks higher. If the content is easy and you can't maintain stacks then it doesn't matter anyway. So for example when you're fighting Countdown hunters then Striker starts to be more useful very quickly.

As for LMGs vs ARs yea the LMGs are stupidly strong when used in the right situations. My current main LMG is an MK46 with Frenzy. Once you learn the Frenzy timing it straight up deletes things. You can see how fast it kills after my 2nd reload.

The only downside with Frenzy is it eats ammo.

[strong cave]

My GR9 attests to this 😂😭

[astral kraken]

Yea it's even worse with GR9 because you have a bigger mag. MK46 is a nice balance.

[strong cave]

I run my GR9 as a secondary when I get bored of using Elmo's

[mild mortar]

Awesome 🙂

[versed summit]

mk46 is amazing

[mild mortar]

Whats your LMG setup?

[astral kraken]

This but an LMG as a secondary:
#td2-build-advice message

[mild mortar]

But in that video, what is your CHC/CHD?

[slate wedge]

huntsman

[stray atlas]

anyone know the best way to farm savage wolverine?

[strong cave]

It's a named blueprint for I think Firewall

[remote cliff]

anyone got a good big horn armour regen build for pvp?

[wispy sluice]

yo guys any advice what build i should use to farm bighorn in summit?

[dreamy valve]

Who’s using True Patriot today

[tulip charm]

Headhunter

[wispy sluice]

can u explain?

[solar sable]

4pc Hotshot
Chainkiller
Airaldi bag w/Vigilance

You can switch 1pc Hotspot for Fox's Prayer.

Attributes: Headshot DMG first, then Weapon Handling.

[wispy sluice]

i already have a build like this, can i really oneshot legendary?

[solar sable]

Leggo bosses may need full hh stacks for oneshot but you can

or you can try killing them with Nemesis

[wispy sluice]

i mean im not fully optimized, but run it? i farmed with this 700 shd the last hours

[tulip charm]

Dont run ninja

I mean unless you can hit 22m+ then sure

[wispy sluice]

got it

[hearty owl]

You have the best build in the game rn

Congratulations

[wispy sluice]

oh, ty then hahaha

ill try summit now

[tulip charm]

But yeah also need a either a floor 10 checkpoint or 90 (which has 3 named)

[solar sable]

Bighorn isn't affected by TL btw

[wispy sluice]

im getting f'd in summit

[hearty owl]

🙂

[mild mortar]

Btw, striker's gamble has total 100 stacks right. And 1 shot is 1 stack? So if my AR has 70 ammo I would have 70 stacks if I empty one mag on an enemy?

[astral kraken]

57 chc and whatever chd is remaining, I forget now.

Probably like 57/120 or something. The LMG has a CHC attribute.

Although to balance things out I think I put a CHD mod on the LMG. Because if I used all CHC mods I'd be over the 60% cap.

Usually it's better to put all CHC mods on the gun and fill in the CHD on gear. But because it's my secondary weapon (primary is an AR) I can't do that.

[astral kraken]

Yep

That's why you don't need an ACS if you're not running the striker chest. It's easy to get to half stacks and at half stacks you're out performing a high end DPS build.

[mild mortar]

Its strange, at shooting range filling the stack-meter is easy. But out in the field I rarely fill it.. and I'm sure I'm hitting the enemy. Is it some kind of visual error like the Headhunter-visual bug?

[cerulean smelt]

well, that's the thing about the targeting range. the targets are always there, in missions or open world you're spending a lot of your time running to places so you lose stacks in the process

also forgot to mention, targets in range don't take cover so it's just generally hard to get that 100 or especially 200 stacks and keep it

[hexed steppe]

also range targets dont move and are pretty large when testing at 5m

[cerulean smelt]

would be awesome if they changed the targeting range into descent room where we actually fight things

[mild mortar]

ah right! Yes that would be better to practice with

Oh, I tried Frenzy on my LMG build now.. that was fun! haha

[cerulean smelt]

if you had fun with that, should get brooklyn and hunt all 8 hunters and try the huntsman AR

[mild mortar]

Ah is that some unique AR u get?

[cerulean smelt]

yes, Famas model with Frenzy on it XD

[mild mortar]

oh must get then 😛

[mild mortar]

But atm Im with a striker build and using an LMG haha.. works really nice!

[hoary valve]

would firewall be better?

[solar sable]

You can use the spec of your choice

[hoary valve]

what gun mods are you running with?

[subtle bluff]

Here. Save this.

[hoary valve]

dude i don’t understand this build one bit i keep dying

[subtle bluff]

That's a gameplay issue.
Dude why do you keep asking question about other stuff then?

[hoary valve]

because i have mental issues and i have no life and the only thing i feel like do every day and waking up everyday is play video games

[subtle bluff]

Ok.. I'll be more specfic why are you asking the quesiton for the same build.
Try another build then if you're having issues with this build. There all in the gear spreadsheet.

[hoary valve]

you don’t become smarter if you ask questions

[odd ginkgo]

Are you in cover or out of cover when you die?

[hoary valve]

would both a option?

[onyx sage]

i mean you do lol

[odd ginkgo]

Yes. You might need to work on getting a better sense of how the enemies are moving. They will try to flank you. Expect this and try to cut them off.

[solar sable]

you can improve your situational awareness by running scanner pulse, it helped me back then

[urban latch]

Firewall is definitely one of the better spec options, mainly because of the damage boost from the striker shield.

[violet juniper]

how does striker shield damage scaling work again? Is it an amp or TWD?

[subtle bluff]

Amp

[dapper slate]

how do people have so much life on their shield? im watching videos all these people have their shield out and just standing infront of people... my shield died in like 10 shots on legendary

[violet juniper]

oh that's why it's so strong

vigilance style amp or sadist style amp?

[rigid estuary]

Would the pakhan work well with a heartbreaker build?

[violet juniper]

LMG's in general don't work well with HB due to the RPM and accuracy issues

Pakhan? Definitely not

[rigid estuary]

Noted

[tired ermine]

Hey man! What's the 3rd stat on Iron Lung? Did you opt for CHC or CHD? Currently DMG to Armor on mine.

Planning to try this one out substitute AR striker every once in a while.

[onyx sage]

chc

[crisp anvil]

I’m new to this server

[solar sable]

hello new to this server, I'm Doomz

[solar sable]

i main Iron Lung on my Striker's build and I can say it's fun

[shrewd crest]

Best skill build gear set right now?

[mild mortar]

I came yesterday asking for tips on my LMG and Striker builds ang got lots of tips. But I left using a new build with Striker AND LMG together with Frenzy copying Purple Minitanks build: #td2-build-advice message.
Love it! Doing 20 mill DPS on shooting range when on Frenzy and the gear isnt yet fully optimized !

[shrewd crest]

Damn you're expertise level is 30?! I am still at 2 😦

What is the quickest way to level that?

[subtle bluff]

To note the range DPS counter isn't prefect it misses a lot of stuff on it.

[tired ermine]

Tried it - it works well and like the burn effect as it draws them out longer.

[mild mortar]

yeha I think I broke the DPS meter 😛

[subtle bluff]

Broke my chem launcher. 😤

[violet juniper]

CHC!

[loud pine]

donate gear if its not needed for recalibration library or builds

[outer agate]

is the super 90 a good shotgun?

[mental panther]

anyone running hbr and st elmo?

[tired falcon]

anything with slow rpm (<=700) doesn't work well with Heartbreaker, unless you use a secondary to build the stacks first, like acs12.
Pakhan works well with striker (but really, what doesn't?) and negotiator.
It can work with Ongoing Directive, but if using this gearset with lmgs makes more sense to use Iron Lung or Bluescreen

[mossy dirge]

Hey you got a striker umbra build with Ninja?

[mild mortar]

If you play with the Glass Cannon, is the Sacrifice worth it? 5% more dmg for 10% more damage taken?

[onyx sage]

it depends

[mild mortar]

Ok on what?

[onyx sage]

it's used on some skill damage builds for example, in which case do you run into any situations where you would take damage at all?

or even on dps builds, it also depends on whether you know how to avoid damage

[mild mortar]

Right

[onyx sage]

comparing to normal glass cannon, on most skill damage builds where you can easily proc in sync, sacrifice will beat out normal glass cannon

on pvp headshot builds, it will also beat out normal glass cannon due to the brand

for pve crit builds, it's mostly personal preference

[mild mortar]

Right thx! Will try them both then 😛

[placid crescent]

Hi all. Newer to D2. Im looking for a build that will synergize well with my two friends I play with a lot. They both lean towards Striker/DPS builds. Im looking for a build that will help support them (something that keeps them alive) but dosent take me out of the fighting totally. Is there such a build?

[onyx sage]

you can do eclipse CC or FI healer

[hexed steppe]

Mortar, always mortar. Generally, skill builds are stronger as highend.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19mY6aOHO0R6BIq7nDFNTk2bducYQkpwsQJNDQhnekAI/edit?usp=drive_link

[hexed steppe]

🙅‍♂️ 🥷

You'll see stronger options as pure striker or pure umbra . Outside of a few niche pvp builds ninja Gonna be a major downgrade.
Check the pinned sheet for guides on either set

[novel ember]

guys im fresh agent here shd 1270 i need best and easy to build >> for DZ i tried build with 1.6 and 5 skill with capacitor but im dying fast !! and my dmg not cool ! who has a good experiance here can help me 🫶 🥺

[violet juniper]

What about my NBB skill build that can outdamage strikers

[hexed steppe]

Doesnt exist

[violet juniper]

I'm fresh off reddit and know what I'm talking about 😀

[hexed steppe]

[violet juniper]

either Refactor, or Mortar mostly likely

Mortar is really good but is an absolutely miserable farm

[novel ember]

as i know they nerfed skill builds and no more useful do you have any idea ??

[novel ember]

nbb which one may i know ?

[novel ember]

is this work in legendary misions ?

[violet juniper]

I was joking. NBB sucks.

[violet juniper]

yes, mortar is amazing in legendary

[novel ember]

sorry about mortar you mean the speci_ or brand ?

[violet juniper]

the specialisation. Demolition specialisation has a special turret called the mortar turret

[hexed steppe]

Mortar is general use. It would be a challenge to use in legs, but depending on the agent and knowledge it is possible.

For legs dps is stronger, refactor gets a mention as a pseudo healer with damage output tho.

[violet juniper]

we love refactor

[novel ember]

thanks now i can see

[novel ember]

mine is refactor but i cant see it powerfull actually

[violet juniper]

like local deck said, it's very dependent on your knowledge in legendary. If you know where they're gonna spawn from, mortar is amazing for clearing the area.

[novel ember]

right

[hexed steppe]

Post a screenshot , maybe there are some changes that can be made

[hexed steppe]

This should actually do alright as a refactor setup. Only difference on mine is 2nd hanna instead of waveform and tech support talent instead of force multiplier (pca)

If not proccong the bag talent a lot or would see a lot lower damage on average. So tech support stronger overall if not always procced

[novel ember]

i just would like to know how can i give my team overshield ? i just know when my turret do dmg to enemies

[hexed steppe]

This set would top the team armor off constantly, but wouldn't provide overheal/bonus armor to anyone.
I've used in leg capital a number of times and whenever I'm feeling real lazy in missions and it does really well for team. I know my own armor gets topped up within a second or 2 of taking damage ... team would see even more.
You can test in the range by using the self damage button, then deploying skills

I dont even think you would need to change waveform either. It should be ok since the damage just shifts between skills and either skill is constantly damaging.
Maybe slot in a wyvern tech support bag to increase damage.

[novel ember]

wyvern but with the same talent i have you mean

the problem is i will lose the haste

[hexed steppe]

Tech support talent performs better on turret/drone.
Perfect combined arm is stronger on paper, but performs better on burst damage skills like mortar because of the low uptime.

You would lose haste by swapping bag brand, but you also have a possibility of 36% more haste by changing your mods. 😉

[novel ember]

but we need skill kills ? and this it not easy when i play legendary

[hexed steppe]

I get it. If PCA works better in your case then use it, but it does leave you exposed. When i use ts in legs it's usually procced. I'll direct the skills towards adds so usually picking up a kill here and there

[novel ember]

so the build you shared is the main skill one right

[hexed steppe]

Build I shared is a mortar setup.
I do main this build for most content, but not everything.

[agile bobcat]

Is there anyone that could recommend a build that would fit my playstyle, utilizing cover, lmg primary and solo? Most builds on YouTube don’t work well with me and I was wondering if there even exists a decent build that fit me.

[tulip charm]

umbra?

[versed summit]

Do you like pestilence?

[violet juniper]

Umbra Pesti/Iron Lung

[agile bobcat]

Alright I’ll try it out thank you so much 😁👍

[remote cliff]

is this a good pvp build? if not how can i improve it

[tropic kraken]

What’s a good secondary to the Scorpio? I can’t get Lexington.

[solar sable]

build???

[tropic kraken]

Hunter fury, memento backpack.

Or ridgeways pride, whichever.

[subtle bluff]

scorpio isn't a great a primary anymore with it's nerf it'll still work.
SMG9 - Tac Vector 9

KSG12, M870

[violet juniper]

SMG of your choice

Best possible choice? Backfire

[sweet pond]

Is there a way to share my build and ask for advice?

or just post a ss

Working on getting chest to all red "damage, crit chance and crit damage with obliterate talent"

I just dont feel like im doing a lot of damage in stuff

[subtle bluff]

BK isn't great on burst DPS

[sweet pond]

focusing on makingg sure I get stacks but i feel like im prolly lacking something

Okay, what should i get instead

[subtle bluff]

Don't sweat stacking so much it is nice to have but if it puts you in a bad postion there's no point of it.

AR with +700 RPM

[sweet pond]

I tried to do police m4 but didnt like how it felt/didnt feel likt it was a lot of damage

[sweet pond]

Any speciifc ones you reocmmend?

[subtle bluff]

It's all really players reference.

They're all good in different ways.

But really doesn't have to be an AR any weapon with high rpm

[sweet pond]

I suck at / dont really like build or theory crafting, just looking for a build to grind for

[subtle bluff]

Pinned messages

[sweet pond]

or, since I really like the BK, is there a end game build around it thats viable?

[solar sable]

bullet king is so meh

[sweet pond]

what is your recommendation then? willing to try new stuff

[sage matrix]

Good iron lung build anyone?

[violet juniper]

Iron Lung is viable in any LMG build + Striker, nego, all those builds too

[subtle bluff]

strikers

[violet juniper]

It's kinda meh, but striker/OD is probably the best setup for it that's easy to make

[subtle bluff]

there's a only a Very few weapons that have specific builds for them.

[subtle bluff]

It's burst dps is pretty bad. You need burst dps to unhealth things quickly.

[sweet pond]

so I need a high rpm assualt rifle with good burst dps

[subtle bluff]

you can use LMG or SMG too

[solar sable]

just focus on an AR with high rpm and that's pretty much it

police m4, Lud, Famas

wait was Lud great?

[sweet pond]

is there a specific exotic that is good or anything high rpm wirh out of cover dmg

[solar sable]

Iron Lung is great I love it

[sweet pond]

I just found a st elmo engine

[solar sable]

keep it and reconfig to DTOC

[sweet pond]

is that good? st elmo?

[solar sable]

yeah, not top exotic but it's good

[sweet pond]

whats the top exotic for strikers then

[subtle bluff]

depends..

[uncut verge]

So I have a question. Is Strikers Battlegear as good in Division 2 as it was in the first one?

[solar sable]

idk about div1 but it's awesome

[subtle bluff]

from what I've heard better.

[ornate flame]

Any YT guys yall suggest for looking up builds

[subtle bluff]

Not really. In the pinned messages there section in the Build Hub section.

90% of the builds out on YouTube are bad.

[ornate flame]

Lol now i feel like what i did the last hour may not have been good

[hearty owl]

No but it takes a lot less skill to use! Braindead gearset in Division 2

point, click, win

[hoary valve]

hear me out

heartbreaker with backfire

just ping me for feedback

[hexed steppe]

[subtle bluff]

It's doable. I did it like 4 or 5 months ago. Felt werid for the playstyle I was going for but again it's doable.

[lapis galleon]

Am noob, does anyone have a link to a Striker build please?