td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

Uh?

Jahl?

Yaal?

[worn isle]

yaahl brand with crow face

[cerulean smelt]

time for you to play your backfire video

[subtle bluff]

I need to make the better one. I made the build and run with it. It’s like whole min slower than the red version

[worn isle]

i have reguired pieces but i missing yaahl vest with oblirate talent and with max cd and cc and core is armor

[subtle bluff]

For the future more context helps. I’m guessing this is for backfire build

[worn isle]

yes

[errant wren]

Thank you so much ♥️

[subtle bluff]

I don’t give advice to this build for solo play since you can just go SMG9 and rip thru everything.

[worn isle]

now i dont know what to do i can try look other vest or keep striker

but there is problem for me i want use without no bleed

[subtle bluff]

It’s hard to go get the url now that I am mobile atm

[subtle bluff]

You can use it without bleeding..

[cerulean smelt]

ah XD should be in my histry, should i post it for you?

[worn isle]

yes with bleed resist but i guess i go farm maxed ones

[subtle bluff]

Plz

I guess you didn’t get my point

[worn isle]

me?

[cerulean smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6vJhXTo0lI
courtesy of MrChow

[worn isle]

so? did i asked you now you replying his?

seems here no answers will be then

[cerulean smelt]

you do you, you might get that famed piece when season end and the build is no more and you'll be here "how can i make this hit hard like this yter video?"

[subtle bluff]

Watch the video.

But you’re answering your own question.

[worn isle]

both monitor sides?

[subtle bluff]

Or go search it. It’s talked about all the time. I again just don’t give advice for this build since IMO is ass.

[cerulean smelt]

basically 1 monitor, video edited to show both builds running same content

[worn isle]

i decide not you

[subtle bluff]

Both are Red Strikers. SMG9 exp 0 and is BF exp 29

[subtle bluff]

wtf does that mean?

[worn isle]

thats for you i answer it

[cerulean smelt]

probably referring to my comment about they get their piece finally and find out it doesn't do the damage and come here asking how to make it hit like yter video they saw

[subtle bluff]

I think there maybe a better way to do this build hybrid it better but the weird thing is to me HOW do we get soo many question for this build in all the discord when it’s all over YouTube no one is explaining shit on how to build it. Are they all just a showcase?

[cerulean smelt]

nothingbutskills i think showed the build

[subtle bluff]

You would most do but how to build it is the issue.

[cerulean smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7V4_h-gmw&t=301s

i fell for a runningbutcher video "solo loot cave!" in video don't do this solo..........

[tulip charm]

lmao

[cerulean smelt]

@subtle bluff i so want to be really mean right now, but i'm like i better not

[tulip charm]

Whats with people running striker chest when that chest is niche asf

Is the classic bigger number = bigger damage type shit?

[cerulean smelt]

haz pro backfire build

[tulip charm]

oh its hollow + memento

[cerulean smelt]

you know what, we only live once right?
@worn isle why not just craft it?

[tulip charm]

lost whats ceska haz pro % on 2 piece

30?

[cerulean smelt]

20% i think?

[subtle bluff]

Only reason really to run this is modifiers.

Otherwise it takes too much away from the build.

[tulip charm]

god I hate youtuber builds

[hexed steppe]

yaahl isnt a common crafting material... well if one never took advantage of yaahl for sale at clan vendor. well worth the 6mil to full up on them

[cerulean smelt]

i know, just poking fun at the person stressing over not having a yahl piece for the godly haz pro backfire build!

[worn isle]

cuz i dont have materials

[worn isle]

u rly drama fighter so be quiet okay? ty

[tulip charm]

xd

[subtle bluff]

We're trying to point you in a better direction for now.....

[hexed steppe]

[worn isle]

u trying nothing

[warm dock]

Bro has 998 more than me

[subtle bluff]

No, you're just not wanting to listening. Your ESL isn't helping you out either..

[tulip charm]

Man I should've bought yahll when it came back to the vender the other day

Even though I have no use for it

[hexed steppe]

might be a good time to step away for a coffee or water

[worn isle]

so now 3vs1 lol ok ok

[hexed steppe]

negativity doesnt move the conversation forward

[worn isle]

ok ok get some fresh air i didnt asked u

[hexed steppe]

[worn isle]

other trying provoke second trying tell something and third trying say he is true with others

[eager viper]

This decent for DZ still? Getting back into game after years away. Been doing countdown but feel like doing some DZ

[tulip charm]

Yeah

Bighorn regen is still good

will get cooked if someone is running any form of cc

[subtle bluff]

Funny enough when I went to make the build I was like... Oh right. I need Yaal Chest with Hazpro or Obli.. Crap. On first craft:
Made the video threw the chest on my mules storage toon already.

[hexed steppe]

reply tag me with the relevant post i should see

[worn isle]

and what should i scare of you?

[warm dock]

Why are you giving such an attitude?

[hexed steppe]

idk what youre doing but disrespect isnt gonna happen

[worn isle]

because of first guy provoking thats why

and others joined with him too so

[subtle bluff]

Okay. I'll try again then.
What do you want help with and give us context.

[worn isle]

i dont need ur help

[hexed steppe]

tag my with it then

[worn isle]

and u stil continue to provoke

[subtle bluff]

Okay.... I was trying to be helpful.

[worn isle]

i seen everything here

[subtle bluff]

I am not. You're just holding a pointless grudge over a chat.

[worn isle]

grudge???

ohmy oh my these people

[subtle bluff]

If you really don't like it all just leave. I am willing and am trying to be helpful. You're giving us not a full context responses.

I am not provoking anything here all I've done is attempt to show you a different way of buliding or doing something.

[worn isle]

yes u did with others

[subtle bluff]

If we have been reply to it and @hexed steppe and he'll tell us to stop.

[warm dock]

Dude you've been going at this for 20 minutes give it a rest

[worn isle]

and lostsoul still continue and so you did with him.

[cerulean smelt]

funnily enough in taht 20 minutes they could've probably gotten or nearly gotten their piece they're desprate for

[hexed steppe]

equal opportunity 😉

[worn isle]

see again he does continue

[subtle bluff]

If I were to provoke you, it would be something like: We do this instead of Backfire.

[worn isle]

his is funny to you huh?

[warm dock]

This guy lmao

[subtle bluff]

No. Just lost at your attitude towards this all.

And that you won't move on back to the subject of this channel.
Build Advice.

[worn isle]

omai gawd

[subtle bluff]

BTW.
But hey let me scroll back since you don't feel like moving on.

[worn isle]

and you too continue ? nice

[warm dock]

He was severely injured he must not have enough Haz protection

I'll see myself out

[subtle bluff]

For this.
You only need to get 91% bleed resistance.
So a mix of Hazpro, other brandset and/or global global modifers.

Sorry, I don't understand what you meant by that.

I am actually answering your OP question.

[worn isle]

me too i dont understand your behavior and insulting

[subtle bluff]

I am not trying to insult you... You are just taking all the very much the wrong way.

Again you don't have to be here if you don't like it all.

[warm dock]

For future ref how do I make this picture for my own builds? Is there a browser/app?

[eager viper]

I think it’s off a build site. My buddy send me that photo

[hexed steppe]

is english your primary or secondary language? not an insult. i ask because there may be an issue with translation. it comes up a lot since we have agents all over the world. im not seeing attacks, but the normal build advice chatter .

[subtle bluff]

There are 2 sites.
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/
&
https://buildstation.app
both aren't updated prefectly well.

[warm dock]

Ty guys

[cerulean smelt]

think they only insults they see is us telling them the build is trash

[subtle bluff]

and respectfully I was only saying there another way to do.

[cerulean smelt]

trying to help but they're stressing over 1 piece for that magical season build that's circulating. even provided a video from Nothingbutskillz who actuallyl breaks it down, then provided the video mrchow made with a backfire/nonbackfire build comparison

[hexed steppe]

🙅‍♂️ 🥷 🙅‍♂️🩸

[subtle bluff]

we're all good now. Let's just stop we answer the question nothing else to see here.

[hexed steppe]

they left the server anyways. water off a ducks back. next time someone gets disrespectful just dont answer anything for them till they change their tune

[cerulean smelt]

will keep that in mind o7

[hexed steppe]

are/were you an ED player? i always saw the o7's in that game, but not really anywhere else.

[cerulean smelt]

never heard of ED, think i've seen it here a few times. thought it was an easier salute emote?

[hexed steppe]

it is. ed is elite dangerous, space sim. no emotes there so we just did that

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, didn't like the sound of the game so i never bothered with it. did enough in eve online XD

[hexed steppe]

all good. will put anything else about this in #off-topic-discussions . local is worst offender of staying on topic today

[cerulean smelt]

lol, well you just asked and we didn't progression the converastion so not too off topic i'd say

[quick linden]

Hello, what do I need to craft to put in the tubular magazine slot for the lefty shotgun ?

[hexed steppe]

man, i need to find a combustor chest to make that decoy build even more of a meme.

[hexed steppe]

you need to farm level3 or 4 controlpoints to get blueprints. then you can craft it and its available infinitely. some blueprints have a specific requirements to drop. if you highlight the attachment you want itll tell you specific action to get it to drop

[craggy forge]

you can't recalibrate exotics? sadge, so I gotta be lucky to get an st. elmo with dtoc?

[quick linden]

Great thank you, been looking for a while just haven’t found anything yet.

[glad heart]

Buy the reconfigure blueprint. Best to have two of the st elmo... run one, reconfigure the other till get DTTOOC to roll.

[cerulean smelt]

it's semi hilarous if you drop another deployed skill in the vicinity of a spawn door

[craggy forge]

Uhm is that good?

[tulip charm]

dttoc is king

[craggy forge]

Ok

[hexed steppe]

its fine till you get the best roll

[craggy forge]

Sadge, would be nice haha

[tulip charm]

but if you dont have more reroll its fine

[craggy forge]

I guess I have enough?

[tulip charm]

oh you good then

[cerulean smelt]

33 tries. the exotic components is what matters the most for it

[craggy forge]

Should I keep going to get higher stats? cause that's going to cost me a lot optimize right

[cerulean smelt]

i'd say that'd be good enough honestly, just optimize it. for me it's a personal choice. i got materials to optimize though so

[craggy forge]

well did 1 more hit xd

[cerulean smelt]

oh lucky!

[queen jackal]

what support build exist? I'm got the refactor one and now I'm looking to build another support one

[craggy forge]

Is this looking correct?

Don't have max rolled mods atm, can you calibrate them too or do you actually have to find them?

[subtle bluff]

Above. IMO the best support.

[queen jackal]

thanks 🙂

[cerulean smelt]

gear mods are specificaly finding them

[craggy forge]

ye, like the highest I got is 2x 5,4 chc

[cerulean smelt]

you'll get there, least you got the build to do so now (> <)

[hexed steppe]

i thought foundry was the best support

[cerulean smelt]

no no no, 6 pc yahl is best support

[subtle bluff]

You ppl…

[craggy forge]

this is for raid right?

[subtle bluff]

Swap Chest and Kneelpad

[cerulean smelt]

btw, you think this would be on par of what people is looking to do?
https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKg7CAWAbCADGj6ucwLgJwgoRwgCsCO21VBURMI8ClNbtkExj7vtYADgYkqovqlyDhPMbOqSEQ9PkLAyqpKGBJ02iG1zi5hucaQmjEy2iA

[cerulean smelt]

for raid?

[craggy forge]

For Raid?

[hexed steppe]

@onyx sage 👆 , come set this agent straight with the godmode build

[craggy forge]

Don't u want 100 stacks for raid?

[subtle bluff]

You have chest that goes to 200

[craggy forge]

that's what I meant, don't you want striker chest for raid builds and ceska chest for heroic builds?

[urban latch]

its depends on the fight tbh

[subtle bluff]

Which is really hard to get past 125 stacks and keep it up.

[urban latch]

ideally have both loadouts ready

some fights in the raids really dont favor striker, and a high end build that doesnt need any stacks is ideal

[subtle bluff]

Yup. Unless you know what you’re doing Ceska Chest is better

[jaunty citrus]

So im working on a Hazpro build, and while I've achieved 100%, my damage output seems subpar. crit chance is a 50% i am running turmoil knees to try and spread the damage. Any help on how it improve would be greatly appreciated.

[subtle bluff]

In others words, don’t need high peak DPS rather fast TTK

[queen jackal]

are we still talking about support builds? super confused now

[craggy forge]

ok, so is there anything stronger than my ar striker build for heroic missions and countdown and stuff?

[cerulean smelt]

you realize 4 5.11 does nothing for you right?

[jaunty citrus]

I threw that one on there as a filler. Couldn't figure out what to replace one with

[subtle bluff]

Strikers will always have the top DPS of all build but there are others that’ll work just has well and do other things. Most are in the Pinned Messages

[urban latch]

this build really doesnt make much sense tbh. Youve got 4p 5:11, so the 4th piece isnt doing anything, but also the 3p are all doing basicallly nothing. Turmoil is going to split your damage, so each target you shoot is going to take twice as long to kill. Unless you really know what your doing and why, Id just leave turmoil in the stash.

Tbh your best bet is to just setup a different build. Haz pro builds are INCREDIBLY over hyped by youtube click bait this season, and are vastly overstating their usefulness. A build like this just isnt effective

[craggy forge]

now one more question, is playing mit modifiers better, like do they make you stronger?

[urban latch]

modifiers is basically easy mode

[cerulean smelt]

personal preference
FYI they change each season

sighs i already miss last seasons modifiers. that overcharging gimmick was so nice

[urban latch]

it was stupid OP lol

[craggy forge]

do they make you stronger tho? Or what does it mean that it's basically easy mode? 😄

[urban latch]

this season the big thing is you can go over the CHC cap, which gives you a huge increase in dps

[cerulean smelt]

normally it's capped at 60% but you can push it further

[craggy forge]

but only with modifiers? base chc from gear should be around 50-55%?

[tulip charm]

yeah

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, normally we tell people hit 55-60% chc then dump everything else into chd
but the firearms modifier allows us to push it past 60%. think some said we can get something like 99.9999999% chc

[craggy forge]

55-60 even with coyotes? I guess 50 with coyotes right?

[tired ermine]

Hey guys, I'm trying out HB - with ceska knees and memento. If you have any experience - is it good swapping out memento for HB bag and go for coyotes for a bit more dmg or are they just about same?

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much, least what i've read but i still hit the 60 if i can anyways just because

[tired ermine]

53.9 CHC | 91.7 CHD

[cerulean smelt]

don't recall the backpack talent but i'd say stick to memento especially if you're collecting them trophies

[craggy forge]

Which 1 are the best modifiers to use for this season, do I find that aswell somewhere written down?

[tired ermine]

For the weapon - since HB has pulsed, is it better to use AR with flatline, will the numbers be any different?

[cerulean smelt]

shrugs no clue modiers wise honestly. you can goto taht spot between your watch and minigun and look at what each of htem do, about only one i'd say helps is Loaded up?

[craggy forge]

i mean multitasker doesn't read bad aswell

[cerulean smelt]

is that the one with weapon damage, skill tier and armor?

[craggy forge]

yy

wait, there are hostile modifier? are they any useful at all? 😄

[cerulean smelt]

this season? you kill them you get whatever is above their head into your stats

[craggy forge]

Ahhh ok

so firearms mark is good i guess

[craggy forge]

Oh wait, they are always active, like u can't choose them right?

[tulip charm]

well theres a chance

[cerulean smelt]

you get active modifiers and passive modifiers. the active you hit a button to activate it where it'll do whatver you choose

[craggy forge]

i mean the hostile modifiers, they are always active right, like you can't choose them which of the 3 the hostiles are getting

[cerulean smelt]

nope they get randomly put on them. you can use Target Rich Environment to make some not having one get one kind of deal

[craggy forge]

what's the standard button to activate the mods?

[cerulean smelt]

PC is T. hit the thing when i dont' want to most times
when you activate it and it wears off you clear what you have buffs wise in the firearms/stamina/electronics bit

[craggy forge]

Now I just need a build where I can kinda run and gun and stand close to enemies without needing to hide 😄 where I get armor killing or shooting oder enemies I guess?

[tulip charm]

Hunters

[craggy forge]

not possible to do it with striker somehow?

[cerulean smelt]

game is more of a looter shooter cover based game
hunter's fury gives you this run and gun no cover capability but you'll still have to take cover eventually

[craggy forge]

and you probably have to play with smg right?=

[cerulean smelt]

hunter's fury is a SMG/Shotgun gear set, but no neccessarily needed to make it work. think raucey made a video where they used hunter's fury, chainkiller with headshot damage if not raucey someone out there definitely made it work

[craggy forge]

but damage wise it's still strong?

[cerulean smelt]

hunter's fury has health on kill and armor on kill built in, tried it a few times but can't find the appeal in it honestly

[tulip charm]

its one of the best build

[urban latch]

you totally can, its just run and gun is HF's thing

[craggy forge]

How about heartbreaker tho?

doesn't replenish armor tho right?

[cerulean smelt]

no it gives you bonus armor unless you tack on armor regen on them then it'll replenish your armor

[craggy forge]

and how about a striker / hunter's fury with bloodsucker backpack?

[cerulean smelt]

blood sucker if you're talking liquid engineer think that 1 pc is armor regen as well but it's percent based

just think temp and bonus armor as a force field that protects what little armor you saved before you got that bonus/temp armor

look at memento. the long term buff from picking up trophies provide armor regen the short term also provide bonus armor, so as long as you're getting the kills and picking up them trophies you regen your armor slowly over time while getting bonus armor for like 5 seconds

[charred eagle]

Anyone can tell me how well bighorn and heartbreaker works together? Keep forgetting the bighorn is a headshot gun, so I could pulse easily on HB but I’m missin out on flatline

[cerulean smelt]

personally, i'd say try it and see if it works well for you

[echo drift]

@Gin-San HB and Big Horn can go together IF you don't use the special scoped gimmick of the big horn. Heart Breaker set does well with weapons that have a fast fire rate.

[lofty frigate]

just for fun to use in heroic mission

[charred eagle]

Say less. Got a all red heartbreaker build that’ll go well with it, and I only scope if it’s for example; a sniper hiding behind cover or sum like that

[charred eagle]

How you liking measured assembly?

[lofty frigate]

i think well made gear set

[thorny solstice]

If you can handle bighorn, then its one of the best dps guns. But u need to hit headshots. For close quarter stuff Bighorn is insane.

[craggy forge]

for which build could that be good?

and why is on the hutner fuy build only shotguns listed? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?tab=t.0

[cerulean smelt]

any build you want with it i'd imagine. strikers with it, hunter's fury with it, highend build with it

if you read the guide other than looking at the pictures provided in it

[craggy forge]

if you go with memento, do you play 1p grupo, soklov or ceska?🤔

[cerulean smelt]

think strikers people suggest ceska chest with obliterate, get the striker mask then don the memento
provides some survivablity

[craggy forge]

i mean with hunter's fury

[cerulean smelt]

guide provided it as an alternative and i think even what to use

[tranquil delta]

You still get good armor regen with strikers though, is the ceska obliterate chest basically universal for backfire builds?

[violet juniper]

Sokolov

or ceska, depends on where your crit is at

[craggy forge]

For me the spreadsheet says they are all for y6 s3, that is still updated for y7 s1 ye?

[violet juniper]

don't know, I've never used the spreadsheet

[lyric prism]

it Ad Rush / Intimidate still worthy with HF?

I got an all red Matador so finding an excuse to use it.

[cerulean smelt]

no clue, i know that combo been nerfed in some fashion

[violet juniper]

Still works well, but Memento/intimidate is better

[tired falcon]

remind me, what's the HF backpack talent?

[violet juniper]

not useful

extends disorient distance on kill iirc

[cerulean smelt]

sounds right

[violet juniper]

yeah it doubles the disorient radius from 5 to 10 meters

[tired falcon]

oh...yeah not useful. Then yeah makes more sense to run HF with Memento

[clever merlin]

Adrenaline rush aint bad either

[tired falcon]

sometimes out of boredom I do this yolo build for countdown or anything <= heroic
Catharsis
Perfect Intimidate
Perfect Adrenaline Rush
Pecaro's
2 more brazos

the new Huntsman as primary, Lady Death as secondary
4 blue cores

[lyric prism]

I'm guessing crusader sheild and revive hive.

[tired falcon]

yes, though I've done experiments using something else instead of the shield like defender/healer drone, healer mineseeker.
Lately I've used the Lud as primary since most of the time I don't need the shield.

Am also thinking of swapping the Catharsis for Coyote and the Pecaro's for Centurion holster.
Once the Catalyst mask is fixed, might work well as a replacement for Catharsis if I use something like St. Elmo or Iron Lung as primary

[violet juniper]

swap the Catharsis for Zwia

even more mag size 😃

[terse scroll]

besides all the youtube vids that have been coming out lately, what's a good backfire build to run?

is haz pro just worth with blue core striker or would there be something else worth building?

[lyric prism]

backfire is fun until you realize the cost needed to make it work. you trade all the damage your set does so the gun can do it. Just run a red core setup and either deal with what the bleed does or run a hazpro rolled slot setup.

[terse scroll]

ah fair, i already have a red core striker which is nice. was just wondering if the backfire builds I've been seeing pop up are worth the hassle

[lyric prism]

Strikers rolled all hazpro w/ 2p Ceska and a bleed mod gets you immune if that is what you want and without the modifiers.

[lyric prism]

its a game. hassle is a non-issue if the playstyle is fun for you.

[urban latch]

haz pro is really not worth running on the backfire, cant stress that enough

[terse scroll]

i mean if it's fun then i'm just running my HE Headhunter build. i'm more so just looking to see what other builds are out there that are fun to use

[lyric prism]

I ran an NBB/3p HF/1p Ceska and a Cavalier and ok it worked but I just got used to the bleed effect when not at a max on the 'in kind' debuff stack which does not happen until everything is dead anyway.

so I just got used to it and ditched the NBB thing, went usual HF build. works fine.

if you are worried on losing armor not at max stack on the debuff to prevent the bleed, run Gunner spec, the 10% AoK more than fixes the issue.

boom problem solved through proper use of bullets into bad buys.

[lyric prism]

^^ that should be the takeaway.

[hazy steeple]

I can not wrap my head around people not taking HazPro on the backfire, at least bleed resist.

Do you just eat the bleed?

[urban latch]

after 3 reloads or reaching max stacks you dont bleed anymore. So by the time it would be a problem its gone

and if your constantly resetting stacks and always bleeding, thats just telling you that your using the backfire in a situation thats not ideal for it anyways

[lyric prism]

and the bleed is so slow even 10% aok negates the loss.

[violet juniper]

basically

[hazy steeple]

I'm probably going more off pre-buff BF

been a minute since I've used it.

[violet juniper]

running Memento with it completely negates the bleed and gets you all the good stuff

one piece Palisade does the same

[lyric prism]

its a fun gun in a pve HF setup. chd for years.

[violet juniper]

I might try it over my chatterbox in my HF build and see what it does

[urban latch]

you know how much I bashed it before the buff lol, its legit one of the top weapons since its buff in the right situation

[quartz ermine]

yes, god bless memento

[onyx sage]

same here

[hazy steeple]

I'm honestly super freaking happy that it got the buff it did, well deserved, my little OG edgelord gun.
the fact that my Agent was too dumb to just take the barbwire off makes it so much funnier.

[violet juniper]

I still want to do Umbra backfire for the 400% CHD

[terse scroll]

that sounds nuts

[terse scroll]

are you running CHD on all your striker pieces ?

[violet juniper]

NGL it usually doesn't even do that much

[hazy steeple]

I think it's finally time that I upgraded the build-that-shall-not-be-named to the new variant for Backfire

[lyric prism]

for that setup I would suspect. only need 5% chc for cap?

[onyx sage]

you get 47% chc without any additional mods or rolls so you need to run 2 chc mods

[lyric prism]

ok more.

[tranquil delta]

Is this ideal?

[cerulean smelt]

sure

[violet juniper]

no Yaahl gear

ceska or sokolov

[tranquil delta]

Sure as in I don't care or sure as in let me bless you with my vast expertise 😉

[tranquil delta]

Ceska with ob?

[violet juniper]

sure

[tranquil delta]

Damnit

[cerulean smelt]

does the video you watch explain the build at all?

[violet juniper]

it's your preference, oblit is best for general use

I prefer intimidate but that's just me

[tranquil delta]

No video, the maker is the comment via photo. Good feller

[tranquil delta]

What if I want more defensive and/or armor with the build. Survivability, what would you guys change?

[violet juniper]

one blue core

striker memento is good enough lol

[tranquil delta]

I get rocked sometimes

[violet juniper]

if you want to go big on survivability then use HB, but that's a lot more farming, and less damage overall

[tranquil delta]

What if I didnt want to use shield?

[violet juniper]

I don't use shield

[tranquil delta]

With HB or strikers?

[violet juniper]

either

I don't use shields at all.

[tranquil delta]

For aomeone not as good, what would you change for that lil extra paddiness

Blue core? Which 1 😦

[violet juniper]

just swap one red core to a blue core

then you're done lol

[quartz ermine]

yes

[tranquil delta]

Which blue? Like armor you fink 🥺

[hazy steeple]

@chilly field Ignore div2 youtubers, most are clickbait to the extreme.
There's a full set of meta builds that are made by the people on this server, so we can help explain anything that you're confused by.
in this channel > 📌 > "spreadsheet 2" > builds.
GL Agent

[tranquil delta]

Love AI lesbians. My favorite is Angelina Jolie

Thesbians*

[hazy steeple]

Don't be weird.

[tranquil delta]

Ok. How do you do today? Weathers nice.

Love me a good cup of coffee and a fresh newspaper.

[violet juniper]

the total attribute. ARMOUR. take one of your striker pieces, and swap the RED core to a BLUE core

[tranquil delta]

Good man

[tranquil delta]

Not swap obli for unbreaky?

[violet juniper]

NO

the actual attribute core dude. It literally says weapon damage on it

[tranquil delta]

Alright! I'm just spitballing okay?! I never got to growing up.... it was always just do this Bobbert do that Bobbert...

You're gay Bobbert. Im not gay no more.

[hazy steeple]

That's enough now.

[rich lotus]

Anyone recommend a good anti skill healer for conflict

Or is that posted in just pvp discussion wasn’t sure cuz I kinda want a build 😂

[green pumice]

Barely any heal builds in PVP imo.

[lyric prism]

couple people with jammer pulse. problem solved

[rich lotus]

Yea anything rlly doesn’t have to be healer js looking for a build idea from anyone if you got a emp jammer build would appreciate the advice bro

Just sick of us getting only skilled by people when we run them down as dps first 😂

Full team running mortar stingers seekers and hiding in spawn for 2 games was beyond my patience 😂

[lyric prism]

if you mean YOU running no skills as a healer build, I read wrong. If so, sort of don't exist.

and yea, that mortar thing is a cheese joke.

[rich lotus]

No no I’m just asking for a build that would counter others using skills yanno like so I could help my team push skill users if that makes sense

That’s why I said healer assuming giving my team armour would negate the skill dmg but if yall got better ideas I’d be grateful

[rancid ocean]

what's a good team composition for master manhunt? it's time for me to get birdie's quick fix and provocastor

[lyric prism]

the only way to counter other skills is shoot them more, interrupt them with fire/confusion/something and then more bullets, OR focus fire.

[rich lotus]

Ah so just get used to hitting seekers 😂appreciate the info I’ll just stick to dps so I guess 😂they were trash once we got close they just kept the distance for awhile with the skills and mortar fire

[lyric prism]

yea, sounds like a troll group. if they are firing mortars all day I will also guess they are using the new gear set to kill incoming skills.

least I would. you could not touch them if they find a hole and dig in.

[kindred sparrow]

What is a good solo class?

[lyric prism]

two Striker setups, a healer and a cc if you want. start teh encounter and fallback to a choke point. hose them. patience.

pretend every ecounter it like the vault in Bank.

[rich lotus]

We weren’t really running skills tbh we ran 2 dps a boink and 4th was a random who ran a ourobo tank and yea they just dug in had a healer with them dug in just piling skills in not fun when I really don’t even plan on playing a skill build 😂least not in conflict

[lyric prism]

yea, they weren't looking to chase points or anything, just annoy

[rich lotus]

Literally only thing they pushed out for was the skills and one of them went full tank to get the specialisation and pushed in with flamethrowers at the last 2 people 😂😂😂😂look I can’t knock them it worked but it’s such a cheese method honestly

Smart Cover worked for the mortar fire but to a point you can hold off like 😂

[lyric prism]

creative use of available mechanics. I do applaud the thinking.

[rich lotus]

Yea our main dps switched to his healer Smart Cover build and honestly worked mad for the mortars but the stingers still get to you and they are annoying when they have skill dmg maxed 😂😂😂😂

[marble root]

hey lads whats the general Chatterbox build?

is it strikers, umbra, or HF

[fair dragon]

Seekers mine is cheese. Mortar actually requires skill.

[rich lotus]

Seeks plus stinger hives and mortars in the back takes 0 skill

All you gotta do is hunker down and you’re fine he didn’t kill anyone w mortars just dmgd bad

[subtle bluff]

full dps as always been easy. It's not that hard to do.

[subtle bluff]

Which ever allow you to keep the talent working on chatter.

What the context of the build.

Yes

It looks pointless atm

what for?

You can just have both and then do nothing with it.

In legendary you need to be either DPS or Support

Or you'll just get overran.

[stray spruce]

I'm returning to the game and I wondered how do I know what loot to keep and what to scrap. Thanks.

[warm socket]

Anyone Got a good PVE Build NOT striker Pls

[subtle bluff]

There are plenty of builds in the Pinned Message GDoc.

[fair dragon]

It would be easy if it auto-targets players, but it doesn't. It's also the enemy players that make it look easier than it is. As a mortar main (although I don't do PvP), the easiest targets are stationary targets, strafers, and targets that roll out of the way to avoid the impact.

[warm socket]

GDoc?

[subtle bluff]

Google Doc...

[rich lotus]

I’ve ran mortar it’s not that hard honestly but my point was with a full skill team and a healer all throwing skills it’s not hard at that point atall when they have us pinned to one area 😂

Once you’re pinned mortars are easy as shooting at the floor honestly but I get what ur saying when they are on the move is a different story

But he rank bonk build till their skills got us closed into a area then dies on bonk to switch to mortar when we’re pinned = 0 skill just a good build 😂

[warm socket]

Where do i find it.. Sorry im stupid:(

[subtle bluff]

You on a Desktop or Mobile?

[warm socket]

Mobile

[subtle bluff]

Or that works too.

If you tap the Channel Name then go to Pin

[warm socket]

Ah okay

[subtle bluff]

Sorry the same for you get yourself on a build and start looting

[warm socket]

Thanks man

[tranquil wave]

Good Haz Supp PvE build if someone's exhausted from running dps and whatnot (made for fun, quite a bit to optimize it fully, switch Gila chest for named chestpiece to get perfect Vanguard talent)
PFE as your attribute and you're unkillable

Walking free armor for your team, never fail Countdowns and other activities if they're not bots

[subtle bluff]

Again context on what the build is trying to do.

PvE armor regen doesn't really work well it works fine in PvP due less things shooting you all the time.

[solar sable]

You may become unkillable but also unable to kill, you also rely on your team's DPS.
Taking aggro will be impossible as NPC's focus on the player with the highest DMG numbers. Tanking in this game has its purposes for raids like Diagnostics or such but for PvE... it's just not really that great.

[tranquil wave]

Well it's not about going and facetanking hunters, for me it's about spamming shields and galvanize so the team doesn't die in a fatal mistake

[subtle bluff]

The normal build for CD this is Hazpro EP to CC them so they don't even get to shoot.

[subtle bluff]

It's more Disrupt immune at 95.8 then just foam them down and then either The Setup or Galvanize. Normally Opportunistic is better if there a big group of people. Also EP on last section is really good.

But not saying you're wrong if you're enjoy and it works just keep going this is just another proven build.

[violet juniper]

what the hell lmao

[tranquil wave]

Oh yea, i mean i just made with what i had, sure, opportunistic would be better choice but as for what it is, quite happy ig, since i played as dps all my time, switching to something i'm not that familiar with, this hit me as meh, decent build but must be improved fs

[tranquil wave]

Almost full haz immune at 97.4 or so

[hexed steppe]

Mortar Setup 💯

[tranquil wave]

Lovely

[violet juniper]

OD!

[hexed steppe]

Countdown hunters require a little more resist before immune from their disrupts . Like 97% iirc

[fair dragon]

Dream team: Mortar-only Tidal Basin Legendary

[violet juniper]

We should have laser turrets

[subtle bluff]

Wurd.. I just sticky and burn most of the time idk I haven't done CD support always worried that the team won't bring DPS.

[hexed steppe]

Los is so boring tho

[subtle bluff]

The turrets from leggo Tidal?

[strong cave]

You're right in assuming this. It's damn near only level 1-200's

It's bad enough I have to literally direct countdown every match I play. Using a mic is exhausting

[hexed steppe]

Dont direct, follow and clean up

It's really not bad at all

[kindred mango]

I like to blast them with a Disrupt pulse before they fire theirs off. Works good 😎

[hexed steppe]

EMP sticky instant deploy may be good for that too

[subtle bluff]

I've never tried that... hmm...

[hexed steppe]

Autocorrect hates me always 🤦‍♂️

I just go full haz and no fs given

[strong cave]

It's all fun and games until 5 of your CD members go down bc they cant even drop a hunter in challenging, or they don't do objectives, etc. not enough DPS either as they're all farming YTer builds as well. Or have no idea what they're doing. It's all I ever see now. Newbies are nice, but goddamn it's a nightmare playing now. Literally summit is more efficient at this point 💀

[kindred mango]

I’m more worried about the 3-4 drone equipped players when in CD. “I’m in danger”

[strong cave]

FELT THIS. I got dropped so hard yesterday in CD because newbies were using striker drones and stinger hives. Hunters hacked them and we wiped

[subtle bluff]

OOOOF

[hexed steppe]

Must be a regional thing. I dont run it a ton but never see lacking. And it kinda doesnt matter when everything is stuck to ground being debuffed

[strong cave]

Literally countdown is a pandemic rn. I back out of 90% of CD matches at this rate

[hexed steppe]

And this is challenging where 4 can carry the team?

[strong cave]

Yeah, that's the issue, it's almost always just me carrying the team. Must be a regional thing. I'm NA servers, East Coast specifically. The highest SHD player in CD I've seen recently was 8k. The average is maybe SHD 100-250. Majority of the time, shd 1-100. It's really bad rn

[kindred mango]

Yes. My go to is to run EP with EMP pulse and something else fun like foam or fire stick. Take care of friends and foes alike

[strong cave]

It's such a heartbreaking experience to see that the entire CD group combined doesn't even match my levels alone. Nowhere CLOSE to it

[jaunty igloo]

is it better to have dttooc or crit chance on my weapon attribute? Using crit chance can get me to exactly 60%

[honest moss]

I highly recommend banshee pulse with eclipse for CD. Full hazpro, pulse and foam. Ggs. Hopefully.

[strong cave]

Whenever I end up as host I'll literally kick anyone running trash. Striker or DPS, or crowd control is all I'll accept. I barely even see that now. I hate kicking newbies and being an "elitist".. but my farming matters too 😭

[honest moss]

DTTOOC for ARs ect, CHC on LMGs iirc but it depends if it is needed

[strong cave]

I run my cc build as riot foam, stinger hive, BTSU and setup backpack. 4 PC eclipse. Perfect CC support. Shout-out local 🤠

[hexed steppe]

I'm rolling through cd with this later. I still need combuster chest tho

[violet juniper]

no just a striker turret but one that shoots a constant, fire inflicting laser

[strong cave]

I run combuster in dz as a healer troll don't feel bad 😂😂

But I run mine with repair trap and restore hive 😂😂

Ninjabike just completed the build 😂😂

[hexed steppe]

This is just for fun tho. Decoy can stay active as long as I'm in range and not dead

[strong cave]

Keyword: "not dead"

[solar sable]

"Ally decoy not dead"

[strong cave]

I've been running armor strikers + Tardi lately. Also been playing more with unbreakable gloves Exodus. I'm loving nimble holster too

[hexed steppe]

I put a bunch of repair in it. Every artificer hit fully refresh of uptime

Runnjng around last night had npcs ignoring me and still focusing on decoy even when I'm unloading cap.

[strong cave]

Wait a fkn minute 204% threat 😭😭 you just gave me a really stupid idea.. AEGIS SKILL BUILD

lemme burn the kitchen down hold TF up

[hexed steppe]

If I fully expertise I can *hit 230%

[strong cave]

You may have just gave me a genius idea to make Aegis viable

[hexed steppe]

I might have to check if ia, or whatever name the new pistol set is, 100 threat applies to decoy🤔

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/KzC0EZ1AGUCYIGYYtm1G0C4BsZIbjLgAsA7JpetjjhFOkRCXdVZllAeG8A+22wtQJWAQSCBHYAgKT5ArHEQBOEaBUAOCCB0VwwOge2CsC80pLF80E1KFZ9XC+AqxEyRHepA

I'd run this tbh, yes ik mxswat is outdated

What's sad is this could be viable. I so gotta craft this 😭😭

[strong cave]

Please test this. Report back to me if it increases decoy threat level. I don't think it will but it just might

[subtle bluff]

I saw aegis and yellow core and closed the tab..

[solar sable]

chow hasn't closed a tab that fast in a while

[strong cave]

Look, when you hit SHD 14.5k and nothing left to do, you get very very bored creative

[subtle bluff]

I mean it’s only lil bit slow than when I see NBB.

[strong cave]

At least I ain't running ninjabike 😂

[subtle bluff]

Oh.. I know. Still not near there.

[strong cave]

They should've made Aegis backpack allow for decoy, not the chest plate 💀

[eager cosmos]

is there abuild site?

[subtle bluff]

as in?

[rich lotus]

Click on the top of the chat and select pins it’s the top one there’s a spreadsheet with builds

[vocal dune]

someone know how i can loot this

[rich lotus]

Targeted countdown

Or exotic caches I seem to not get enough of them when I don’t want it

[vocal dune]

i need farm it?

[cerulean smelt]

or just don't worry about it if you can't be bothered to farm it

[vocal dune]

i have two '-'

[subtle bluff]

to mind the rest but ya

[cerulean smelt]

i can't wait for the drama after this season is over
why is backfire not doing damage?

[subtle bluff]

I mean it does dmg just is slow to do so. The build has been around for long time.

[cerulean smelt]

i've tried it, not too impressed with it

[subtle bluff]

Honestly I don't like Backfire it's just the best in incurusion tanker for dmg. DUA leggo I can see being good other places shooting past 25m it sucks soo much.

[rustic pendant]

Does skill healing effect shields regeneration?

[near elm]

I'm a fresh lvl 40 who needs to transition from the habit of using the most recent gear when I started, to looking for 2 seperate builds, one for pve and pvp as my current gear can only really accomplish progress in pve

[solar sable]

Top PvE builds:
Strikers
Nego
Hotshot
Ongoing Directive

For PvP builds check the PvP starters guide.

Everything is in the 📌 Spreadsheet

[cerulean smelt]

anyone think Firmhand shake named gloves status effect would effect backfire bleed? (> <)

[shy willow]

It's only negated by hazpro/bleed resists

[cerulean smelt]

no, i'm meaning when we reload with the firmhand shake gloves on would that bleed do more to us than usual because of the status effects

[shy willow]

I severely doubt it, it seems to be based purely on stacks gained

[hexed steppe]

no mortar mention... i still have work to do 😔

[cerulean smelt]

yes, yes you do. maybe if you're like "skip the backfire build, do Mortar Supremacy build!" video people will be like what backfire?

[hexed steppe]

ia doesnt affect decoy. stayed at 204 threat, so no joy

[cerulean smelt]

does the provacator affects the decoy in some way? i forget honestly, but i feel it does something to decoy

[hexed steppe]

youll have to test it, i dont have it. should be an easy check in the range

[shy willow]

Just gives conditional DR based on proximity

[cerulean smelt]

ah ok XD

[cyan breach]

When farming for a backfire, its best to do Countdown with SMG targeted right? Cause I havent seen a single exotic drop at all in lke 200 SHD levels of countdown..

[cerulean smelt]

means you and backfire was never meant to be

[cyan breach]

thats how its feeling for sure lol

[tired ermine]

Anyone has a build advice focusing on pestilence ticks? Seems a good pair with vile mask, on the guide - it's more on strikers. I was leaning more to status effects, what would be best?

[smoky latch]

Pestilence's talent isn't a status effect. It depends on the amount of red cores in your build aka weapon damage

[subtle bluff]

Just use basic Strikers for now. The specific Pesti build is pita to farm but it's good. Do you want to see it?

[tired ermine]

Sure, that'd be great. I'm just exploring on lot of builds, it's boring farming SHD.

[tired ermine]

Hopefully it doesn't have a turmoil, else I'm screwed.

[smoky latch]

Glass cannon included probably

[subtle bluff]

There @tired ermine The right one is easier one ot farm.

[tired ermine]

Ah yea, first one is definitely, from what I know so far - lengmo is blue core so i'll have to find specific attributes.

[solar sable]

I was also looking for a pesti build

[smoky latch]

I used to use Hollow Man instead of Coyote's

[subtle bluff]

I mean Coyote just works. You can do anything that works for you.

[tired ermine]

I might be blind but on the second build - there's no talent, I assume it's still glass cannon?

[cerulean smelt]

nods just gotta mind your distance for what buffs you actively want on

[subtle bluff]

The builder is working for that but that why I mention above either using GC or Obli

[smoky latch]

Coyote's usually good choice yeah but iirc (thee years ago) my ticks with Hollow Man were a tad higher. Not sure would have to try again. Lacking the new items still

[cerulean smelt]

long time ago the trifecta was hollowman, contractor's and fox's in every build for damage

[smoky latch]

I remember

Just came back recently and have a lot to grind for again now.

[cerulean smelt]

think at some point they nerfed it so people have stuck to contractors and fox's

[smoky latch]

I missed three years of patch notes, cba to read it all 😂

[tired ermine]

Jumped straight into my stash - had this. Explosive resistance tho, dang it. Will be using it for now.

Holster is the only one lacking

[cerulean smelt]

yeah i sometimes hate my stash. i'll run countdown for something. goto stash to put things away. hey there's a piece i could've used ealier hangs head in shame

worst thing is i goto crafting table. oh you mean this whole time i could've been crafting named piece?tears hair out

[rough vault]

Hi i need some help im playing w my friend since out of the tutorial , we got same perks yet he getting more xp , around 10k xp per side mission and one mission gave him almost triple any clues on why?

[stray spruce]

Any good and reliable websites for builds? Thanks

[subtle bluff]

Look in the Pinned Mesages

[stray spruce]

Thanks

[strong cave]

Damn. Alright then, BTSU + Murakami or Picaro's it is 😂

[hushed gorge]

Is Streamline talent bugged or working properly because i have some questions.

The talent says you get 42% weapon dmg when no skills are on cooldown

But if i use a sheild while shooting,is it on cooldown?🤔

[echo drift]

its not worded properly, its meant to say its active when skill are not in cooldown AND not in use

[tranquil wave]

Working perfectly, just don't use skills.

[subtle bluff]

Ubi devs aren't great and changing from PTS to Live talent descriptions.

[mellow flint]

@cerulean smelt this the one i made

[urban latch]

You can switch two.aemor cores to damage and still have a t6 shield

[mellow flint]

yeah that was my original plan, but i couldnt get the loot to drop for me

[worn elbow]

Hello beautiful people I’m about to start the game again after 4 years(old gen) now since the game is on game pass I’ll just get the dlcs separately
Now the important question is will striker and heartbreaker builds be enough to experience all content in the game?

[subtle bluff]

He could drop a lot more than that since he's 4 Skill teir already.

[queen jackal]

are these exotics? besides the capacitor

[stray spruce]

What does LZ and DZ mean on the spreadsheet? Thanks

[worn elbow]

Probably not but not sure the mop is a legendary named that’s ik

[queen jackal]

thanks 🙂

[worn elbow]

Your welcome

[cerulean smelt]

Light zone (pve) dark zone (pvp)

[cerulean smelt]

harmony is named rifle, mop as it's said there is a named shotgun, tinkerer isn't in game

[queen jackal]

oh okay

[subtle bluff]

Where is this from?

[stray spruce]

Awesome, thanks

[verbal gust]

Think it’s from patch notes.?

[queen jackal]

It's from the refactor build (gdocs)

[subtle bluff]

Localdeck would do this way. 😛

[violet juniper]

no. Only Capacitor is exotic, and that is also wrong, it doesn't give 60% skill damage. Mop, Harmony and Test Subject are all named high end weapons. The Tinkerer mask doesn't exist yet

[versed summit]

It does

40 stacks of 1.5 skill damage

[violet juniper]

description says 40%

Reread it, my bad lol

[versed summit]

Nw lol

[violet juniper]

wait since when did it give +30% crit damage

skill builds always get these broken weapons lol

[versed summit]

As long as I can remember tbh

It is lowkey busted

[violet juniper]

I would try it on striker but I just can't give up iron lung

[queen jackal]

And fun until you reach summit 100 where skills don't do much🙃

[violet juniper]

I'll make a refactor build or something with it lol

[violet juniper]

Foam and fire

or just a shotgun to the head lol, hunters are small fry

[queen jackal]

I tried it like 15 times with drone and turret but no chance

Even on normal they're like super tough idk. Might need to try it with foam

[violet juniper]

yeah that's why

they hack skills.

Hunters are not hard to kill, they're just impossible to tank. if you disrupt them, easy kill

[queen jackal]

yeah true! thanks

[weary badger]

Huntsman build anybody?

[shy willow]

Literally just toss it on any DPS build

Striker, umbra, nego, high end etc

[weary badger]

rly that easy? I figured since it relies heavily on mag cap i thought there was sum else to it.

but ight thx

[shy willow]

Frenzy technically gets better the bigger of a mag you have but leaning into mag size is a net damage loss

[weary badger]

thats true. didnt think of that lol thx

[warm dock]

So just stick a +20 round mag on ?

[shy willow]

Ideally you'll always run that whenever you can on any gun really

Extended mags

Other mags tend to have mediocre bonuses like stability and such

[warm dock]

Fair point

[sharp crescent]

Anyone got a pestilence build?

[shy willow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nrPBmOrtpkEW1j5fbcRT7L-AXgsGOqMqxXoVtopsiGM/edit?usp=drivesdk

There is one attached in here

This sheet will answer like 90 percent of build related questions

[sharp crescent]

Thanks

[craggy forge]

backfire striker meta with obliterate chest or strikers chest with the hallow man?

[lyric prism]

why hollow man?

[craggy forge]

just seen some people running it

[lyric prism]

for health damage ok I can see it but way better slot options.

striker meta.

run gunner spec if you are worried about the bleed when not at max stacks while killing, takes care of the armor damage with the AoK but you should not be long not at max stacks, like three reloads I think.

and run red cores, not the blue thing. run a palisade piece if you feel the need.

[craggy forge]

why not blue?

isnt it better for run and gun? cause you are way more tankier

[loud pine]

but you also do less damage which is riskier if youre closer to enemies

could do backfire hunter fury if you wanna run and gun since HF is the run and gun set

[onyx sage]

run and gun doesn't mean you have to run blues

[craggy forge]

But why are so many people running it than with blues, i'm curious

I just want to bein their faces and be closequarter to kill em and with memento you have to be there anyway, no? for trohpies

[near elm]

I'm attempting the legendary stronghold but am getting slammed while I thought my gear looked good, I have 1.1m armour and 111.6k dmg

[cerulean smelt]

i feel the misconception of "having 1-6 armor cores = tank" but you still lose that armor rather quickly

[loud pine]

thats just what other people do, doesnt mean its optimal it might just make them feel safer

[onyx sage]

yeah, most people play casually

[loud pine]

but if youre in their faces they will shred that armour 99% of the time like lost said

[craggy forge]

i mean i saw widdz, nothingbutskillz, and swrd gaming running it with blue cores, i guess they are not casuals 😄

[onyx sage]

they're by far the most casual CCs out there lol

[loud pine]

generic youtube build slop

by all means have some blue cores, but when i first made run and gun HF/Strikers builds i swapped them back to red because i just didnt find the armour that useful

but thats just me everyones different

[onyx sage]

legendary is like 30% build 70% skill, if your positioning is bad you die very fast. i would try to learn better positions

then go all red. with good positioning you take very little damage

[craggy forge]

I mean, i already have a full red striker build, which I can use, can't I? And then try another one with full blues and see what fits better?

[loud pine]

thats the best thing to do yep

[onyx sage]

you can try it

[loud pine]

with strikers i think everything dies too quick plus i have aok from gunner spec, hf passively disorients and gives aok too so i just dont rate blue cores at all

[craggy forge]

you play striker chest or obliterate ceska chest?

[near elm]

Okay let me ask a similar question, how can I improve my 'build' for pve?

[loud pine]

obliterate if im lazy otherwise i like pgc

for most heroic stuff you wont get much use out the extra stacks on strikers chest

[onyx sage]

it's very bad. i would go to the spreadsheet pinned in this channel for proper builds.

here's one for a basic striker that you can use anywhere

[near elm]

Can you explain why it's bad?

[onyx sage]

there is zero synergy between the pieces in your build, and the attributes are all wrong, you want critical chance and damage for a typical damage build for example

for example your gloves, you want at least 2 pieces of it to make the set bonus work, you have only 1

[near elm]

That's just because of the stats

[onyx sage]

then just use a brand set piece

[near elm]

14.4 wd and 7.5 handling

[onyx sage]

yeah there's nothing you need handling for in this build. just stick to the tried and true builds that we have and you can figure it out later. right now this build isn't doing anything wonderful

[near elm]

It's not about hoping that I'm doing anything 'wonderful'. I've just used the best peices i had

And I've come to see if there are any substantial changes that needs to be made

[loud pine]

there are quite a number of substantial changes you need to make

[onyx sage]

were you hoping to hear us say it's good?

[shy willow]

The whole thing needs a complete rework

It'd help to know what you plan on using it for exactly

[loud pine]

he was in a legendary stronghold

[onyx sage]

idk. i'm just saying it as how it is. sure you're probably making the best you can out of the pieces you have but you can always farm for them

[near elm]

Just to experience my first one

Not under any assumption I'd wipe the whole thing

[onyx sage]

you're not going into legendary with it so we want to get you at least a foot in the door

[shy willow]

Ah

🙂

[loud pine]

i get that but you should focus on getting some good strikers pieces and even shd levels first

[onyx sage]

if any piece of content requires you to have a proper build, legendary, incursion and raids are it

the picture i sent, just get around 80% close to it and you'll at least have a shot

[near elm]

I understand that but I'm not here with the goal to clear a legendary stronghold

[onyx sage]

then what is your goal brother

[shy willow]

.

[onyx sage]

but unfortunately your build as it is right now can't be used for any goal. it's a mess of unrelated stats and bonuses. only the guns can be kept. to be strong at any piece of content in this game you want to specialize your build

[near elm]

I'm not sure, I have less than 4 days in game time, and I'm not sure what the next steps are in the case of content after lvl 40, I don't own any dlc's

[onyx sage]

you want to farm in countdown, challenging difficulty for a proper build. that is your first goal

the striker build i sent you will be used anywhere and lets you fall back on it if you don't have any special builds for any specific content

i'm really trying to help you

[near elm]

Are you saying in the case of making a real build, this is where to start?

[onyx sage]

yes

[near elm]

Are the weapons required? Levington and lefty?

I don't have those but I do have afew exotics as substitute

[onyx sage]

there are alternatives as written in the text

[near elm]

I read the text but why couldn't say an lmg be used? I don't have an 800 rpm ar

[solar sable]

you can also farm one

[craggy forge]

So like that?

[shy willow]

Farm one

Or multiple, there's a lot of good options

[onyx sage]

you can use lmg tbh. it's fine

you can also craft a police m4 or famas right off the bat if you need an AR

[loud pine]

looks fine to me, itll just be a matter of playing properly now

[shy willow]

You can run LMGs but I tend not to apart from iron lung, suppression is annoying

[craggy forge]

Which modifiers do you use? Security Link I guess?

[loud pine]

i honestly cant remember i dont pay too much attention to the global modifiers

i think i use the damage ones and either assault or broken link

[onyx sage]

the build also doesn't really require modifiers to work so it doesn't really matter

[hexed steppe]

Named. Harmony is dz/named cache exclusive.
Mop is available anywhere, shotgun target loot

[near elm]

Could you explain them to me? In order to begin farming at the reccomended difficulty I'll need to optimise or change what I can

[urban latch]

you dont really have a build, its just random gear pieces on

[loud pine]

average covered it mostly already, but 100% follow the build photo he posted it will get you through 95% of the game

[shy willow]

Within a run you'll already have a workable set of striker pieces and you can go from there

[loud pine]

but otherwise youve got random cores, reds yellows and blues all over the gaff and 1pc negotiators which will do nothing (quite literally, it only gives benefits if you have 2+ pieces on)

[shy willow]

You'll get carried through your first few

[near elm]

Im not begging for a magician to make my equipped gear godly. Im asking if there are any changes of gear that can be made in order to meet the requirements and to build synergies that can allow me to play countdown at a higher difficulty than normal. I'm not asking for builds, I'm asking for reccomended changes in cores, brands, and general stats.

Just to get me to the point of being able to farm for the aforementioned striker build

[shy willow]

We've all said the entire thing needs changing, there's no foundation to build on

Youre running pieces from random brands

[urban latch]

People aren't trying to be mean or anything. It's just that with what you've currently got the genuinely best advice is that your basically starting from scratch with what you showed before. Like at this point your just putting on whatever gear has higher rolls, and working towards putting together a build.

[shy willow]

General advice on gearsets is 4 pieces or bust too, the talent compensates for the loss of attributes

[near elm]

_

[near elm]

Okay, I'll remove the glove

Given that I have afew max wd cores already should I replace the current gloves with another? Or use a skill tier?

[urban latch]

If your going to countdown you don't want damage skills which can be hacked by the hunters, so just throw on whatever gives you the most weapon damage and crit

[near elm]

Okay so would armour on kill be a viable stat too?

[urban latch]

Your not going to be many kills, so that's not really going to contribute much for you

[near elm]

In thiscase how much armor do you think I should look for ?

[urban latch]

It's ultimately preference, but imo you really don't need any.

[near elm]

I have to ask does a picture like this give you any information about the attributes?

[urban latch]

toss on a revive hive and crusader shield. If people see those damage skills they are likely to kick you since those can be hacked and kill teammates

[near elm]

I only had them equipped for journey challenges, but thanks for the shout

[shy willow]

Most of the time they can be inferred

[near elm]

Fair enough

The yellow core is repair skills I want replace it, does it matter too much?

[urban latch]

Just to be clear on terminology, the "core attributes" are either weapon damage, armor, or skill tier. So the repair skills is a "minor attribute".

It's not ideal since it's not doing anything for you, but it's just part of the process as you put stuff together

[hexed steppe]

goto your map. toggle target loot and look for the following icons (or target in summit/countdown).
youll need 4x (striker), 1x (ceska), 1x (grupo) or coyote mask
all main cores , minor attributes crit chance and crit damage

[dreamy valve]

As you gain more experience with the game and building loadouts in general, you’ll start to notice that there are actually a fairly limited number of attributes and talents you need to worry about to make an optimal build work in most of the pve content, and that also goes for exotics and gearsets. The more you frequent this channel while playing the game, the more you will start to notice those typical recommendation patterns that will help you identify what aspect of your build to focus on. Someone here can always post the absolute most optimal build for what you are looking for, but it’s still going to take some time for you to understand why and how the gear comes together, and that will take some trial and error through more natural gameplay time.

[onyx sage]

yeah, we give you the optimal stuff that always works, but we don't discourage you from treading off the beaten path as long as you know what makes a build tick and you know how to make one yourself

i run some cursed builds myself in solo but in groups or for some challenging content for YT i run the proven stuff because i don't want to mislead people

[dreamy valve]

Or just git gud bruh

[subtle bluff]

Give that server with those emoji

[onyx sage]

the worst thing i want to be called is "he's just like all those youtube clickbaiters"

which... i am, i just don't wanna hear it out loud 💔

[hexed steppe]

dm incoming

[sick depot]

what's exactly so good about gunner to use it?

[hexed steppe]

armor on kill, banshee pulse, rof increase, reload increase, extra handling, +50rnd lmg mag, ammo replenish

[tired falcon]

depends on the lmg. For example
Iron Lung
Catharsis mask
backpack with Perfect Creeping Death or regular Creeping Death
rest Ongoing Directive

[tired falcon]

if you don't have a general purpose striker build yet then farm countdown on challenging, get one or more people to also loot target striker.
The sheer number of item drops is high enough that after 2 or 3 countdown runs you'll have good to max rolled striker gear.
For the other 2 gear slots you can craft ordinary items, ie a Fenris and a Groupo. The attributes won't matter, just the core attribute which you can recalibrate.

Once you have the basic striker loadout you can farm countdown on heroic to get better striker or other gear. Just find 2 or 3 more people to farm it with, have them pick the same loot target as you. On average each countdown run drops 10 near max rolled or max rolled attributes items. With one other person farming with you, that's 20 decent to good items

[hearty owl]

SO TRUE

your thumbnails all follow a template now it’s disgusting

[verbal gust]

WHY ARE WE YELLING?

[hearty owl]

BECAUSE IM SO HAPPY RN

[verbal gust]

WHY ARE YOU SO HAPPY RN?

[hearty owl]

because dien is gonna carry me loop 40 on descent tonight:)

while I afk

[verbal gust]

WELL MERRY CHRISTMAS YOU FILTHY ANIMAL.

[hearty owl]

[verbal gust]

Didn’t know you could afk

[onyx sage]

idk who you are and who that is

[solar sable]

he gets accused of cheetos on his legendary runs

[verbal gust]

I Cheeto when I zig zag

Ummm sorry wrong reply

It’s not my fault my IQ is my foot size ok?

[solar sable]

twenty one

[zenith plover]

any thoughts on this buid?

[craggy escarp]

Can someone help me get ouroboros pls

[blazing ocean]

hloo

[rich lotus]

#lfg-raid-console

[versed summit]

I’d at least use an AR that can equip the linked laser pointer, like the police M4.

It would also be worth it trading the Grupo holster for a vigilance backpack.

Turmoil is fine, but not really optimal, so as long as you like it.

[tired falcon]

don't think Turmoil is worth it. I'd use Centurion, Coyote or Catharsis instead

[zenith plover]

im just actually using the turmoil for the stats hehe, i think ill trade the holster for the dps boost

whats the best way to farm optimization materials?

Im running this as my solo buikd? any thoughts?

[onyx sage]

looks good

[zenith plover]

i think i need to replace some pieces so i can optimize at a cheaper cost

[astral kraken]

back in the day i'd throw on a determined/headhunter build, turn on all directives, start at the capitol building, and head west opening every box and popping every head on the way

lots of xp, loot, and mats

[zenith plover]

got it i have a determined hotshot build so i think i can do this

[astral kraken]

dope. and remember xp gains also = mats because of scavening points.

oh and turn on the shd exposed event too. the material caches you can buy with stars are super duper cheap. like 2 or 3 stars iirc.

[zenith plover]

nice

i cant seem to find a good HB build, well I think ill optimize my striker first before jumping on another build

an the laughing gas bundle in the store looks dope

[hexed steppe]

how i run my hb. its either coyote or memento with highend piece being ceska

[dusk axle]

I cannot get any exotic backpack to even drop for me so can't run exactly like this. But love my HB build

[zenith plover]

i really appreciate this one, so basically no armor cores?

[hexed steppe]

just the memento and knee. gives me a tier 4 shield Mem armor/skilltier+tech skill tier+knee armor, and tier 2* artificer. how much armor you run is going to be preference

[hexed steppe]

ceska vigilance and coyote is really good combo to run

[versed summit]

Farming some heroic or legendary content when it’s targeted striker can help quite a bit. You can usually get a few max rolls fairly easily.

It looks like you could work on your library though

[zenith plover]

oh i see cause the damage is noticeably difference but the survival is top notch with the ble cores

[zenith plover]

i have already maxed the library for gears im already working on the weapons but im all good on the weapon on the red attributes just working on the weapon swap speed and such

[hexed steppe]

i lean a lot on memento because it gives regen and scaled up the artificer and shield. its a good middleground. adding to much armor just means slower clears.

[zenith plover]

cause i wanted to have a tanky hybrid build for higher difficulties

[onyx sage]

for higher difficulties your armor doesn't matter that much trust me

[zenith plover]

oh i see,maybe ill try the red heartbreaker but i think it needs a lot of calibrating, even for solo??

[onyx sage]

in solo it's even harder

red HB can work in master but in legendary it's not worth it

[zenith plover]

so should i foundry bulwark instead? haha

so whats a good set in legendary

sorry for asking too many questions cause i just have limited playtime so i just want my resource spending to be worth it cause i dont have a ton of time to grind😢

[onyx sage]

you just want a damage build and have good skill tbh. it's meant to be the hardest content in the game. the build doesn't matter that much

if you want to get good at legendary unfortunately you're gonna have to spend a lot of time in it

[zenith plover]

thanks bro, appreciate it

i think ill stick with the striker for now and practice so i can build good habits

[onyx sage]

yes, the more time you spend playing the game you'll just learn them over time. if you want more targeted tips then you can ask here but they're fairly advanced and i won't burden you more than necessary.

don't be afraid to die, every death you learn

[zenith plover]

im not afraid to die cause every death i learn a lot

[onyx sage]

that's the spirit 🔥

[zenith plover]

cause i really love and enjoy the game and i know the game is old but i just started a few months back then stopped then went back since there is a DLC, this is pretty much my stress buster after work hehe

[onyx sage]

same, i think this game has a lot of room for skill expression and it doesn't get enough attention for it

[zenith plover]

yup that's why even though there's only two of us who plays the game, i don't care and not getting tired of encouraging them to play the game cause for me its really worth it

and i really like how deep the gear optimization is in this game

lots of room to optimize depending on the playstyle

[onyx sage]

💯

[zenith plover]

would you guys think theyll have the hunter recruiter skin back on sale?

[onyx sage]

maybe

they've rerun skins in the past, so there's precedent

[zenith plover]

i think ill hold off on the friday the 13th skins for now and wait for the hunter recruiter, im pretty tempted to get the laughing gas bundle hehe

what would you suggest in terms of skins that i should look out for?

[loud pine]

whatever you fancy really

[onyx sage]

this is probably the most subjective topic you could ask about 💀

[loud pine]

real ones run the black balaclava

[versed summit]

If you like the recruiter outfit, probably the black tusk security one as well

[thorny kernel]

Okay how viable would this be?

Iron Lung

Vile

HE Backpack with the talent that spreads status effects you apply to one enemy onto others

Ongoing Directive chest/gloves/holster/kneepads

[versed summit]

Taking glass instead of creeping death would probably work out better and make it work like a more conventional tick build.

[thorny kernel]

I'll probably try both variants when I'm home tomorrow

But would OD work well or should i go with another gear set?

[versed summit]

OD should work well

[rigid granite]

Need a DZ build. help putting one together. I’m on PS. I have Matador and a bunch of other pieces.

[subtle bluff]

You may get more help in the #td2-pvp-discussions

[rigid granite]

Thanks

[strong cave]

Is there anyone here who knows how to math out skill haste and skill cooldown? I'm a bit confused on how to do so

Trying to find out if one of my stupid ideas will work for skill haste and skill cooldown reduction

[subtle bluff]

It's stupid.

[strong cave]

Oh I know, trust. I'm just trying to see if it's even worth entertaining the idea of building it. I know at tier 0, with a tiny bit of skill haste, scanner pulse is like 15s cooldown. With night watcher mask, reduces it to 7s. I wonder if a shit load of skill haste will reduce a decoy cooldown exponentially

[subtle bluff]

Mantis

[strong cave]

It's 25s with absolutely zero skill haste at tier 0. I know tier 6 makes the decoy longer, more threat level as well, and have more health. I checked into mantis and it requires a full kill to get the decoy refresh

[subtle bluff]

You're already hurting me

[strong cave]

You can thank Local for this stupid idea

The build I got theorized has about 120-130% skill haste. Assuming that a decoy tier 6 has a cooldown of 25s at 0 skill haste, if you have 100%+ skill haste, does this make the cooldown instant? I'm questioning if so. If nightwatcher mask does 100% scanner pulse haste from 15s to 7s, would skill haste work for decoy? Making a theoretical INSTANT cooldown?

My brain hurts trying to figure out the math behind this skill cooldown. I'm determined to make Aegis actually work

[subtle bluff]

@onyx sage you wanna help I don't anymore..

[onyx sage]

i just explained in #ask-td2-community

[strong cave]

They hooked me up 👌 I'll let y'all know how my stupid idea works. I'm this determined

I've disappointed chow so badly 😂

[subtle bluff]

MURRRRRRRRR

[limber stump]

hi all, so im trying to put together a backfire build and need a yaahl piece wondering if anyone has a good farm for them im pretty new to the game and understand its a pvp exclusive but if anyone can help me with a good farm strat that would be great

[strong cave]

Buy them from clan vendor whenever they go on sale. You can then buy Yaahl from there and decon the pieces you bought. I don't recommend a backfire build as an SMG-9 will drastically outperform it. Plus, majority backfire builds you're seeing now rely solely on Modifiers. Backfire is only good in Raids/Incursion

This season's modifiers will go away in ~3 months. New ones will be in, making that specific build most likely useless

[limber stump]

ah i see is there any build you would recommend i have a striker build but its so weak just want something that can take a bit of damage and deal some also

[strong cave]

You can throw a few blues on striker and be just fine. Alternatively, heartbreaker works

For solo play, use memento exotic backpack

If you truly wanna make backfire work, take this setup:

Striker mask - WD/hazpro/bleed resistant mod
Ceska chest - WD/hazpro/Crit Hit DMG/Crit DMG mod. Talent can be glass cannon or obliterate. Whichever you prefer
Striker holster - WD/hazpro
Striker backpack - WD/hazpro/crit Hit dmg mod
Ceska gloves - WD/hazpro/crit Hit dmg
Striker knees - WD/hazpro

Skill 1 - shield
Skill 2 - reviver hive
Specialist - gunner

At max watch level you'll be fully bleed resistant, and 90% hazpro across the board. With modifiers, 100+ hazpro.

[limber stump]

yeah maybe not the build for me as im only 231 on watch level

[strong cave]

I use glass cannon variant myself. Plays okay. Just requires positioning and fast reaction time. Not an easy build but it works and it's easier to farm

[strong cave]

In that case, throw a few blues on striker or go the heartbreaker route

[limber stump]

is there somewhere to look at builds and stuff that people put up that is up to date ?

[strong cave]

Pinned messages in this channel. There's a spreadsheet with updated builds

[hexed steppe]

You dont need creeping death on an OD build because you have a mag full of bleed ammo, and you can spray a group and achieve the same spread without killing your damage output.
Vile also not good here, you would need to compromise your survivability to make vile ticks stronger.. coyote mask is better here, and also buffs the team if not solo.
Build like a dps and itll perform like a dps.
Od 4pc including chest, coyote, ceska bag (vigilance or wicked)

[rare kettle]

what is a gear set that is mainly used for skill builds?

[subtle bluff]

Depends on the skills.

[rare kettle]

im running fixer drone and revive hive

[fair dragon]

In that case, none

[subtle bluff]

Um.. What are you trying to do with the build?

Otherwise ya you don't need a build for those 2 if you're soloing with them.

[rare kettle]

i just want something that i can get constant heals from

[subtle bluff]

Heals won't save you forever. They are a buffer.

[fair dragon]

Refactor

[subtle bluff]

I was getting there

[rare kettle]

noted im still a bit new to divison so im still trying to figure out some things

[subtle bluff]

Are you level 40 already?

[fair dragon]

How new is new?

[rare kettle]

yea

[rare kettle]

like this year new

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Message there's bunch of info and Gdoc with even more.

[waxen girder]

hi, can someone help put together Iron lung build ? i checked YT and the builds there are Meh

[hexed steppe]

usually memento exotic is enough to boost healing skills without impacting the damage output of a normal dps

[tired ermine]

I queued with this guy - an absolute chad. Is this build more on skills or some sort of medic? He was working overtime on revives lol.

Like to give this a shot - at the very least help the team since most are already on damage aspect.

[fair dragon]

It's a bit of both. Skill damage heals the team. Not a lot of damage but lots of heals

Basically Future Initiative without the FI buff

[river plank]

Really want to make a solo build revolving around either the Apartment or emeline's guard. Can I get some gear set recommendations?

[wild ridge]

anyone have damage chart for ars

[hazy steeple]

@wild ridge The Spreadsheet that's 📌 pinned in this channel has them all listed.

[wild ridge]

perf ty

[arctic scaffold]

what yall think about this should i keep the kneepads or switch to emporer gaurds?

its Hzd/HSD

[tired ermine]

one thing I didn't get is the attributes - I have no idea on yellow builds, what you think the attributes on this?

[fair dragon]

Skill damage

[lapis fox]

if im doing a striker build whats a good tribute on my bag? ive seen some say spotter but i don't use pulse.

[hazy steeple]

Striker builds should generally either use the Striker Bag, or maybe Memento, but Vigilance is an option pre-stacks.
tl;dr Striker bag is best to slap on.

The Striker Chest is another story, and is only really good fi you're fighting enemies with super high HP, like in the Incursion, etc.
For pretty much every other option, I'd recommend Ceska, since it lets you have more crit stats elsewhere.

[snow geode]

whats the best healer build i can go for

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11__a0xEKRKX22zNtLFwQM6P44oIq_h6g07a47Fd0X2M/edit?usp=sharing

[hazy steeple]

^There's a link in the usual spreadsheet, it's 📌 pinned in this channel.

[solar sable]

you're late bud

[subtle bluff]

I can't forward it thru my app. I have to go on webapp

[lapis fox]

okay this I didnt know about the bag but I was told that name brand ceska chest piece was the best.

[broken hazel]

I use the Striker chest and offset it with an Improvised gloves which gives me the WD core w/ CC, CD and a mod. Just saying.

[cerulean smelt]

it just helps the striker get closer to the 55-60% crit chance so you can go into crit damage

[subtle bluff]

But Striker chest isn't worth it because your uptime of the talent getting above 125 stacks isn't high.

Improvised pieces aren't has good has brandset bonuses pieces.

[cerulean smelt]

chest gets it's full potential in raids/incrusion and maybe legendaries

best uses improvised provides is going for nearly 100% Protection from Elites

[subtle bluff]

Because either/and/or you have time to build stacks, are fighting long enough and shooting enough to keep the stacks up.

[cerulean smelt]

think 91% is the highest via gear atm if you go that route? and that's counting 7 13% Protection from Elite mods

[twilit forge]

Chat what yall think? Am still newish

[subtle bluff]

other than weapons it's pretty close to standard build.

The Stats focus is CHC get to close to 60% without going over then the rest into CHD

You need to Pulse Enemies to build HB Stacks.

[cerulean smelt]

i'd use something like Police M4 over chameleon honestly

[subtle bluff]

If he response need to example different ways to pulse

[tired ermine]

Hey guys - on the PVP builds, I saw this bighorn - is it somewhat viable when it comes to PvE? Got the bighorn earlier on a legendary mission run. This game keeps on giving. I'm exploring a lot of builds which is very fun endgame

[subtle bluff]

No. Typing...

So PvE and PvP are built different because in PvP there only 1 to maybe 4 things shooting you and PvE it's a lot more.

[tired ermine]

Gotcha, I did try using HB set with Bighorn - not sure if that's how it is setup or if Bighorn is even a PvE option.

[subtle bluff]

It's strong but the issue it runs into are things without heads.

I run it groups but I've pulled away from it just to do full strikers.

[tired ermine]

Fair point, I'm not sure on where to lean on it as well - if it's HSD or still CHC and CHD.

[subtle bluff]

You can run BH without HSD the talent on it is to do HS to get more HSD.

The strongest builds are the builds that utilize all thethere talent's uptimes.

It's not that easy to run full HSD HB because of building stacks and stuff.

[tired ermine]

Aight, I love the pestilence build as well - built it yesterday, did some heroic CPs and I'm shredding with its passive, only thing is that with GC on chest - it's so squishy.

I'll stick the BH to a PvP build one day when I decide to farm a Rav, I'll build a support build for now mainly for incursion

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/1_YYCh3_HkU?
To note for legendary it can be cleared with glass cannon. I am not saying this is the way to do it this is upper limits of what we can do without any blues.

[tired ermine]

It's more on skill issue probably on mine lol. In wide spaces, I can deal with it - in more tight, I'm having a hard time with with the rushers and all.

[tired ermine]

the AR is lexington, right? man wish this comes back - it's like laser.

[subtle bluff]

He could use different weapons. Lex honestly isn't the best.

[inland warren]

i'm running a pretty similar HB build but i feel like i do so little damage and take so long building up stacks, i don't know if theres something wrong

[subtle bluff]

HB issues with stack building.

[inland warren]

Yeah but with strikers i get max stacks in under a mag

[tired ermine]

Yea, this one - strikers easy, but HB - I don't know what's the calculation on that.

[subtle bluff]

RoF buff helps strikes and Pulse is weird for HB. When I run HB I use ACS12 to get my stacks going

[tired ermine]

When I got rocknroll acs, building stacks with strikers was easy - with HB close to impossible, it easily depletes too.

[subtle bluff]

Help you and everyone break down the Best ACS12 for there build.
Lefty with both to RoF is BiS for the quickest Stack Building to 100.
ACS12 DTTooC w/Brazen BIS for DPS
RocknRoll BiS for stack building to 200

[inland warren]

Yes, i feel like HB got nerfed or smth because the guys i play with swear by it but i just find it mid haha, but i'm also tired of being so weak when using the Striker..

[subtle bluff]

It got buff if nothing. It's always been this way.

Strikers always wins due to RoF buff.

[subtle bluff]

You need more CHC.
Tried using Measured instead of Flatline helps with stacks and more dmg.

Mentioned ACS12 choices above

[inland warren]

ty will try

[fluid crater]

Can anyone help me I’m fairly new too the game and I’ve seen a build that is striker but the cores are armor and I can’t seem too find any gear with armor being the core ?

[loud pine]

striker will always drop in red so you have to recalibrate the core to blue

[tranquil delta]

How does strikers w obliterate on chest compare to hunters with intimidate?

[subtle bluff]

Range really is the best difference.
Hunters, you have to be close for it all to work.
Strikers, doesn't care it's range and it'll peak higher in DPS.

[inner rock]

why is so many people always running so many blues with HB?

[subtle bluff]

It comes with blues.

[inner rock]

just roll it to red and go crazy 😧

[subtle bluff]

It's what we say.

[tranquil delta]

If I wanted to make strikers more survivable, while using obliterate chest, should I just swap in a blue core or would it be worth switching obliterate for something else?

Or perhaps running HB? For pve

[subtle bluff]

Oh god this is why I hate when people post in every discord with the game question.. 😐

[shy willow]

The bonus armour it gives is more valuable the more armour you have

If you're gonna roll HB all red I'd argue it's pointless and you're better off with striker

[verbal gust]

Trying to farm electrique set 3p and 1p sokolov chest w obliterate w walker and Harris backpack w Adrenaline rush w catharsis is like pulling teethe and hair out. lol lvld my purist to 27 exp so we’ll see.

[short crest]

Took me 5 days of countdown to get backfire

[verbal gust]

I feel you brother it’s a grind man

[strong cave]

Is this a pvp setup?

Bc if so, don't take it. It's severely outdated

[verbal gust]

Really?

What’s a good setup then I had my eye on that 30% smg dmg

[hearty owl]

Everyone and their mom running Umbra

[strong cave]

You'll be bested by a Regen bighorn build every time. Even a crit build with Regen + everyday carrier can easily beat it. Sys Corr can easily beat it. Everyone running umbra can beat it. Hell, even a Regen Ridgeway build can beat it

SMGs kinda got nerfed due to Ouroboros no longer being the king of SMGs. Regen builds got a buff bc everyone runs bighorn. Same with catharsis. I mean yeah it'll buff a 3pc electrique build but not by much. You could go with that setup and instead take streamlined but then you're locked out of your skills. SMGs don't do enough damage rn to even be considered worth taking

[verbal gust]

So keep going with my bighorn regen build got it exp to 30 call it a day?

[strong cave]

I hate to say it but yeah, you're pretty much locked to the meta if you want even a remote chance at fighting anyone

Are you typically a solo or group player?

[verbal gust]

Rather have a group but don’t have one usually I match make dz

[subtle bluff]

Noobs

[strong cave]

I typically take high end setups over Gearsets or going for the odd-brand-bonus builds (electrique, Lengmo, etc). My go-to is pretty basic:

Coyote or Nightwatcher mask - WD (coyote), armor (nw mask) + crits
Fenris chest - WD/crits/unbreakable
Grupo holster - WD or Armor/Crits
Ceska backpack - WD/Crits/Vigi for solo, companion for Group
Contractors - WD or Armor/ Crit
Fox's pads - Armor/Crit

Skill 1 - scanner pulse
Skill 2 - decoy
Specialist - gunner or firewall. I go gunner for the gunner pulse skill mods

"Old faithful" is what I call this build

[hearty owl]

Chow start your pvp arc

[strong cave]

I run 2 blues on mine with EB, getting a headshot proc is kinda easy. Dropping whole squads is so nice. Play patient, stay back. If you need more armor, take more armor. As you get used to how it plays, strip some armor for WD back. Works good for dz as a solo and group play. For conflict it works too

[strong cave]

Trust me, I'm trying to get chow into that... Same way I need to run incursion and leggy with him 💀

[verbal gust]

Taken notes*

[hearty owl]

we might need to get chow a xim

[strong cave]

I was thinking REWASD 🤣

[verbal gust]

Wish I could run w you guys…

[hearty owl]

lmfao I was about to suggest that

[subtle bluff]

I did for a week.

[hearty owl]

Why did it last a week

[subtle bluff]

Idk

2 days of cheater

[hearty owl]

hmmmm

[strong cave]

Best part about this build is that you can take deadass any gun. St Elmo, EB, iron lung, whatever you desire. You aren't just locked to any specific weapon type. I run an L86 as my secondary with DTTOC/DTA and optimist. You're kissing near 60 CHC if built properly and that's on all guns. Avoid SMGs tho

[strong cave]

Please don't give me PTSD flashbacks to this one guy running pesti with aimbot... In conflict...

With a lag switch of all things 💀

[verbal gust]

Mhm mhm mhm

[strong cave]

If you wanna get really toxic, run Crit regulus. Swap out holster for Picaros then swap the chest to douglas. Mask is mandatory Coyote. Same chest talent, unbreakable. You could go glass cannon but that's risky. I haven't tried that yet. Primaries will be anything, regulus for pistol for sure. Firewall specialist for this one also. Swap pulse for bulwark shield

You're not locked to headshots with Crit regulus. You can shoot bodies and still hit for 2.5-3.1m damage. Headshots even higher, most I've seen is 4.1m. headshots are just preferred to hit ofc

I pull my reg out on unsuspecting players or when I'm in a close-call face fight and lost my unbreakable. Pop the shield, get last few shots off and try to win the face fight. Run it with 2 blues, 1 on Picaros and 1 on whatever else. You CAN do 3 blues, it'll hit for about the same. I run this in conflict but it can do dz

[simple haven]

What is the most -accurate- assault rifle, baseline before mods and without statting into it? Don't answer the railsplitter, that eats its talent slot

Getting tired of needing to keep a switch-hitter for when I need to shoot through shield slots, pick toes, or generally fight past 25 meters

[honest moss]

They are all accurate, that is what assault rifles do. Worse case pick up a rifle or get more stability i guess.

[simple haven]

(laughs in AKM, TKB)

Neither of these can beam heads past 25m in the range, they are -not- accurate

Accuracy = tightness of spread
Stability = how far your reticle shifts

[honest moss]

Well never had these issues. Like i suggested if ARs aren't working try a rifle. Plenty of options.

But i guess, something around the 750-800 rpm range

FALs are pretty accurate from what i recall.

[simple haven]

I would like a confident answer, not an idle 'guess'

the problem is that not all of these ARs are craftable so it's annoying to try and get a decent lineup

As i recall the FAL has the same accuracy problems as TKB/AKM, it seems like all the "7.62 ARs" were modeled that way, but lemme check since I think it's craftable

Oh, yeah, definitely same accuracy model as the TKB/AKM, completely shoots a circle around the 50m target

[honest moss]

You are trying to use an AR at a range outside of its intended use... try a rifle for that range if you need it to be very precise

[small igloo]

Stability is when you are shooting at the wall and you just watch it start climbing towards the ceiling

[honest moss]

Every AR unless you stack stats will struggle at 40+

[simple haven]

i don't think it's unreasonable to want a weapon biased towards accuracy within its type

I'm not saying I need it to beam heads at 50, I'm just using the 50m target as a unit of measurement/point of reference

Hmm, FAMAS very noticeably shoots dead-accurate in the first ~5 shots of a burst, although it gets rowdy after that, but you can do quick bursts and actually beam a 50m head

As long as you can control the upward kick (stability or just a steady hand)
and if you just need to hit the body, it's trivial

oh, no, disregard, it's the +handling talent named FAMAS i pulled out
i forgot that that was what the talent does

SIG 556 has some whacky initial kick but a fairly tight cone of fire

c7 as of yet has been the most consistent, a very tight COF and not-whacky stability issues

[honest moss]

I tried some ARs, at 25 and at 50. Generally they all did the same but i only had a few on me. My stash is broken. But like i said one of the 700-800 rpm ARs will likely be the most accurate. Or even try the ACR if you can. This is really a not an issue to fuss over. If you do try a rifle i suggest the SIG 716 or even UICS MOD2. Both are AR style rifles.

[simple haven]

rifles suffer very noticeably when you need to kill plated targets

i have some builds that use rifles, M16A2 (burst fire) and UICS (slow fire), i chose both because they very notably have almost zero horizontal spread

[honest moss]

Sigh... you got a lexington? Use that.

[simple haven]

if you didn't notice a difference between the 7.62 ARs and some of the 5.56 ARs I cannot trust your opinion at all lol

the 7.62 ARs have their positives, which is why I've been using the AKM for a long time, but I'm just getting tired of the constant swapping

especially when I want to be leveling expertise on a gun that stays in my pocket

[honest moss]

The game doesn't seperate caliber, it isn't a realistic shooter. It seperates by rpm and damage values. Each AR fits into a class of surrounding ARs.

[simple haven]

Yeah, but conveniently the devs very noticeably programmed far worse accuracy values on the guns that IRL use 7.62

And if you don't instantly see that fact in the range shooting a paper target, lol, lmao