td2-build-advice

[mystic sky]

Which talent on chest?

[quartz ermine]

no hazard protection , full staked memento will give you 3% armor regen for 5 min, this will counter the bleed from Backfire

[quartz ermine]

Obliterate

bonus

[ruby shard]

Returning player since the warlord of new york, any recommendations to get set up today ? Have not bought Brooklyn DLC yet

[near elm]

I've just pulled Merciless from a cashe and would like to know the recommendedbuild to be able to optimise it

[craggy forge]

What's the best way to get an Eagle Bearer or St. Elmos? Haven't played for like 2 years 😄

[magic rapids]

for the sniper build
is there a reason you would pick white death over m700 or vice-versa

and what second primary would you use?

[shy willow]

Literally whatever is on hand and hits the breakpoints you need will work

[shy willow]

A shotgun

[magic rapids]

this is my current sniper

[magic rapids]

any specific one?

[shy willow]

M870

[hushed gorge]

Can i farm for the Harvest Pistol?

[glossy scarab]

pretty sure its only during holiday events

[hushed gorge]

yikes

[mystic sky]

You god. I will try it! Thank you so much!

[warm knot]

Which one is this? The wooden one?

[hazy steeple]

@warm knot Model 700 = the wooden one (also shares a model with the White Death)
M700 = metal one.

[magic rapids]

yes i mean the wooden one

[warm knot]

I only remember the tactical is the green one

[warm knot]

Ya, i prefer this one over the WD cuz of the handling. WD kinda flicks to the right after the shot

[hazy steeple]

If you're using a Hotshot setup, you should be aiming for 100% stability anyway.

but it's not the worst idea in the world to take something that has near model 700 damage, but a mag reload. Especially if you're going for a 3pc Hotshot setup over a 4.

sr-1 is still good for that, even post-nerf.

[warm knot]

I do 4, and weapon handling as secondary attribute, but it still annoying. I can still hit 29m tho.

[meager horizon]

So let's say I go for the Model 700, should I go for the 5% Weapon Damage Mod or the stability mod?

[hazy steeple]

You can check in your Inventory, then tab over to the stats page, make sure the right weapn is selected, then it'll tell you what your stability is.

[warm knot]

I'd say the 5% weapon damage. It barely moves (I forgot to say I'm a scope user)

[hazy steeple]

You get 10% free stability from the SHD Watch, and the mods are fairly high up there.
So you won't need many WH rolls.

[meager horizon]

Like should I go for Weapon damage, Reload speed, stability? Accuracy isn't maxed without the muzzle slot mod

[magic rapids]

My issue is with the aim after moving accuracy

[warm knot]

No I mean, I have hs damage everywhere, only the bp and chainkiller has weapon handling.

[hazy steeple]

Make sure you are doing this to see what you're on for Stability, if you get to 100% on an MMR, you have 0 bullet sway, so the shot always goes to the reticule.

Even if you hip/cover fire.

[bronze hound]

are there any improvements i can make

[violet juniper]

Swap the holster and chest piece

[bronze hound]

is there a way to getr more damage?

[hazy steeple]

The Striker Chest is only really useful if you are fighting enemies with stupidly high HP, like in the Incursion, etc.
For the bulk of encounters, you want a ceska high-end chest instead, it's still better to use Ceska over Grupo, even if you find yourself near the cap with the latter.

[bronze hound]

im consistently at max stacks

ceska will also put me over the cap (currently at 53% with the only crit chance attribute being the holster)

[hazy steeple]

The chest is only really worth it if you can regularly maintain 100+ stacks durnig a firefight, but if you can: go for it.
The idea behind using Ceska over Grupo, is that with Ceska it allows you to leave CHC attributes out of other places, and add in more useful stats.

You basically want to invest as few Attributes into CHC as possible, whilst getting as close to 60% as possible, without going over.
So your current 53% is a tad low.

[flint wave]

using st elmos engine

[bronze hound]

right but i cant get any closer to 60 without going over

because 53+10=63

[hazy steeple]

You can if you drop Grupo and go Ceska, then maintain your attributes.
IIRC I hit about 57%.

[bronze hound]

rivens 53+10 does not equal 57

[hazy steeple]

Eevee, you would not be using all the same pieces.

[glossy scarab]

isnt the ceska bonus 8% now?

[flint wave]

I also forgot what planet im on

[hazy steeple]

mhm, but either way, you wouldn't still be on 53%.

[bronze hound]

so am i dropping striker?

[hazy steeple]

Are you doing a bit?

You 100% would know this.

[bronze hound]

no thats just genuinely what youre suggesting

[hazy steeple]

This does not mean "remove all striker pieces"

[bronze hound]

if i change from grupo to ceska then i gain the brand set bonus and get an extra 10% or so

and im currently at 53% so 53+10=63 and 63>60

[hazy steeple]

Ceska is 8% now.
but you would remove another attribute of CHC and add in more CHD, or if it doesn't fit, WH is never a bad choice.

[bronze hound]

rivens i only have one chc attribute i said that

[hazy steeple]

Grats, you know how to farm out new pieces.

[bronze hound]

what... the one attribute i physically CANT swap over

i cant run two CHD attributes on a single item

[hazy steeple]

^

[bronze hound]

so i should go over the cap at 61% then\

[glossy scarab]

i'd rather be over chc cap by 3% than under it by 7%

[hazy steeple]

I'm not sure why that's your only choice.

[bronze hound]

rivens the only chc attribute i have is the one on the holster

[flint wave]

i like fog of war

[hazy steeple]

You're somehow getting to 53% CHC with 1 CHC attribute that you can't remove?

[bronze hound]

yes because its on the holster

season modifier, ignore the 58 its usually 53

[hazy steeple]

The Seasonal Modifier can overcap, or so I'm told.

[bronze hound]

ignore that

without the modifier its 53%

[hazy steeple]

What attributes do you have on your Striker pieces?

[bronze hound]

chd

[hazy steeple]

Without having to go through all this for another hour or so, seems like in your case, you should probably just farm out a new holster, one with no CHC attributes on it.

[bronze hound]

and roll headshot onto it?

[hazy steeple]

WH

[bronze hound]

weapon handling?

[hazy steeple]

never a bad call when you are capped out on crit stats.

remember that it's 4 stats in 1.

[bronze hound]

and all of them dont matter on an SMG

[hazy steeple]

Reload, accuracy, swap, and stability don't matter on a bullet-hose?

[bronze hound]

yes

[hazy steeple]

This is clearly a bit, I am way too tired for this right now.

[flint wave]

bruh

[bronze hound]

im literally not trolling wtf? accuracy and stability dont matter when youre 2m away from an enemy and i dont swap enough to make that worth anything. reload speed is so small that the impact from a single weapon handling attribute is negligible

[hazy steeple]

Then take the HSD stat, I don't see why you're complaining so much.
The build is min-maxed out to the nines.

[bronze hound]

thats literally all i wanted to ask

i didnt ask what i should change i asked if there was anything that needed to be changed

[woven pewter]

How about coyotes mask? If you glue to the enemies like you said, you'll get more crit dmg.

[hazy steeple]

I am curious about the Gloves, they're more of a boss kill Exotic from what I recall.

[bronze hound]

for when you need a lil extra oomph

[hazy steeple]

If you are maintaining the full stacks like you said, you probably won't need that damage boost from them in the majority of content.

The Coyotes suggestion is a good one, as the 1st buff is a fairly hefty stack of CHD.

[bronze hound]

its 25% right?

[woven pewter]

Yes.

[hazy steeple]

0-15m

[bronze hound]

right

[woven pewter]

I'm running with that setup. Sure, i have chc overcapped but i dont mind.

Its okaish for incursion. :p

[bronze hound]

oh btw rivens they never fixed my healer tank

[hazy steeple]

healer tank?

[bronze hound]

i told you about it a year or so ago

[hazy steeple]

I forgot my own birthday last year.

[bronze hound]

oof

[bronze hound]

basically if an enemy dies then you and nearby teammates immediately get insta-healed to full

[hazy steeple]

Seems useful.

[bronze hound]

nobody has said that about my build, even you mocked it at first

[hazy steeple]

Don't take it too personally, I mock most builds I see here in secret.

[bronze hound]

ill show you the build after this mission

actually found an old clip of it

[flint wave]

dude is multitasking

[bronze hound]

wdym

well heres the cursed build (spoiler because cursed)

[bronze hound]

@hazy steeple

[celest blaze]

Do you have a build guide??

[violet juniper]

Updated my HF build lol

[meager horizon]

What kind of sorcery is this

[meager horizon]

I beg you pardon

[bronze hound]

you see the video as proof

[bronze hound]

my sheer boredom

[glossy scarab]

is the dr. home the key to that puzzle?

[meager horizon]

Last time I checked Doctor Home shouldn't heal that much

[bronze hound]

yes

[glossy scarab]

ahhh i hope you're not sending me on a wild goose chase to figure out how to do it

[bronze hound]

i sent you a picture of the build 😭

[meager horizon]

Ah, was it because of your proximity with the FI set?

[bronze hound]

for healing teammates yes for self healing no

[meager horizon]

Cause unless you have a 1000% Incoming repairs hidden somewhere

[meager horizon]

Wait wdym for self healing no? Doesn't FI heal you for 60% of the heal you provide to others ?

[bronze hound]

that stacks

[meager horizon]

So when a marked enemy die, everyone get the 10%, then you and your allies get 12% times your number of allies in a radius

Since you're using the bag

[bronze hound]

no everyone gets 10% except you who gets 40%

or in countdown thats 80%

[meager horizon]

So it doesn't proc that part of FI?

[bronze hound]

hold on

[meager horizon]

Cause I dunno how to explain it otherwise

[bronze hound]

the backpack increases that 60% to 140%

[meager horizon]

Oh it's 140, not 120?

[bronze hound]

actually i think it is 120 i dont remember the exact numbers lets just assume that

[meager horizon]

So it's 14% max armor if that procs

[bronze hound]

so everyone gets 10% and you get 96%

[meager horizon]

Nah It's 120

So it's 12%

[bronze hound]

right so everyone gets the 10% from doctor home and you get all that backfed for 96% healing to self

[meager horizon]

But if you get 96% the others in range should get 96% too

[bronze hound]

also keep in mine the +15% outgoing healing for survivalist

[meager horizon]

It should be an aoe proc, if it heals you it should heal in aoe

[bronze hound]

it does as shown in the video

you insta-heal anyone within 5m of you

[light grove]

It’s like giving them a soul crushing bear hug out of care.

[meager horizon]

So when a marked enemy dies, everyone gets 10%, then you provide 12% times the numbers of allies in a range of 5m

[bronze hound]

well theres +15% outgoing healing so its 11.5% instead of 10%

so you get 110.4% healing to you and allies within 5m

in a group of 8 that is

55.2% in a group of 4

which is 1.1m armour in a group of 4

[bronze hound]

its like weirdly broken lmao

[rich lotus]

What’s DZ meta rn?

[glossy scarab]

i go solo usually so a pulse resist build is the only way i can keep from getting stomped by groups who wanna 4v1 me

[violet juniper]

I love when division pulls the fantasy BS in legendary and red soldiers can suddenly tank point blank shotgun headshots

[wooden anchor]

Anyone willing to do distric union arena.I just hit level 32

[tepid parcel]

advice?

[urban latch]

Windows+shift+S will screenshot

[subtle bluff]

#lfg-pc

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[solar sable]

do you mind cleaning your camera lens? 😒

[solar sable]

4pc Striker's
Ceska vest w/Obliterate

Attributes: Crit DMG (mainly) then Crit Chance (CHD/CHC respectively)

Drop bullet king and, if you want to use an exotic LMG, go for better options like Iron Lung or Bluescreen, Pesti doesn't sync well with Striker's

[subtle bluff]

Pesti works with Strikers fine.
I don't recommend bluescreen due to it have 0 CHC mods on it.

[solar sable]

that explains it

[subtle bluff]

Bluescreen is better in group play.

[tepid parcel]

How to get iron lung

[hasty sluice]

When would you even use this?

[glossy scarab]

@smoky moss this is my go to for survivability

[cerulean smelt]

i'd even say if you got the memento to use that

[glossy scarab]

yeah i have a loadout for that too. even more survivability. my only thing is i get distracted and lose my memento stacks a lot and sometimes dont wanna deal with that

[cerulean smelt]

for me i always want to grab the trophies even if htere's a lot of firing going on

[glossy scarab]

yeah same it keeps me alive while doing stupid things. its just in between engagements i get caught up with inventory and apparel caches and crap

[hushed gorge]

Humanity is alive
a random dude just dropped this for me

[subtle bluff]

I spot a unicorn chest.

Exo gloves is instead of coyotes in the standard build is all you need imo.

[violet juniper]

Catharsis is nice if you want a mask though

I will always suggest catharsis, I love the thing

[glossy scarab]

which ones bloody knux?

[solar sable]

chow meant exodus

[subtle bluff]

One day I'll remember how to spell it.

[subtle bluff]

Geez.

[hushed gorge]

can i get harvest from named item cache?

[glossy scarab]

nope

this new brand set is pretty cool for making pistol builds tho

[light grove]

How’s the threat on the brandset? Is it lacking?

[finite bluff]

is lexington any good

[subtle bluff]

Lacking?

[hushed gorge]

huge chunk of xp doing propaganda mission,damn
alas,only 2 days left

[hushed gorge]

Dont you have the Turmoil kneepad?

it will make your build one shot 2 kill

[glossy scarab]

oh good idea

i was too busy moving on to a backfire build

[hushed gorge]

i guess it is me only who doesnt like modifiers that much

[bronze hound]

I have a set of what I call boredom builds

[bronze hound]

It's like the only tank build adequate for countdown lmao

[bronze hound]

Wait if this was all red it might actually go pretty hard

[subtle bluff]

I've seen worse.

[meager horizon]

Is the 10% max armor repair from doctor home based on the armor of the shooter or the armor of the person receiving the heal?

[bronze hound]

Armor of the shooter

[meager horizon]

So you would heal less then?

[bronze hound]

But the point is 100% aok regardless of how much armour you have

[meager horizon]

🤔

[bronze hound]

Not even aok as long as they're marked

But basically this build is exclusively for countdown or healing w/o the use of skills

I basically made the world's first skill-free healer

[hazy steeple]

||I think most people would argue that Healers are skill free.||

[bronze hound]

You know what I mean rivens

It's the only build that can heal while hacked

[meager horizon]

Watch me becoming a walmart healer using firewall spe armor kits and perfectly efficient

[bronze hound]

The irony is I work at Walmart
I am by definition a Walmart healer

[cerulean smelt]

so, how do you kill when a hunter or anyting near is marked and dead?

[subtle bluff]

pretty sure it doesn't apply your repair skill but you'd have to test it

[bronze hound]

Wdym

[cerulean smelt]

you mentioned hacks/jams and was just thinking the single hunters near the debuff/buff areas, then realized oh end of countdown tons of ads to mark and hope the 7 others see it and kill those marked npcs

[subtle bluff]

Confirmed it doesn't work off of your repair skill. Left all red build right was FI witih 205 repair skill

Use Survivlist armor kits works on your team btw.

[bronze hound]

Just mark what they're shooting at

[cerulean smelt]

hunters?

[meager horizon]

Oh sorry, didn't see your hypothesis
No it doesn't work with skill repair but it should scale with your armor I think?

[urban rover]

Looking at doing an LMG + HeartBreaker build. Is this a viable kit for Raids / Endgame content? Seems like everyone is really leaning on thr Striker set.(Im new to end game build crafting)

[subtle bluff]

Doesn't really matter with perfectly efficient since it scales it up anyways

[subtle bluff]

For raids no. You need quicker DPS and you don't need the survival it gives.

Outright Strikers will always be the highest DPS due RoF and it's AMP.

Mission PvE it'll work fine but HB in Raids/Incurison isn't great.

[urban rover]

Really? And theres no variance in builds?

[subtle bluff]

I've done everything there is to do with HB.

[meager horizon]

There's technically some builds that use Dodge City /Headhunter/Regulus for Raids

[urban rover]

Sure lower DPS, but i would figure there would be some build variance for diffrent play styles. But i guess thats how meta works lol.

I was wanting to do somthing with LMG's cause they are fun and you could always use more DAKA

[meager horizon]

You can do lmg striker lmao

[subtle bluff]

For raids and incursion you have roles.
Everything DPS is nice.

[subtle bluff]

Yes but those people are doing a different role other than just DPS

[meager horizon]

Yeah those are for specific roles / gimmicks

[subtle bluff]

I mean in my loadout I have 3 builds with LMG's... WURD when did this happen..

[cerulean smelt]

Iron Horse would require different builds for the different mechanics within it which is something people take up after they learn how things work

if you're learning it people will ask you to don a striker or red dps build and tell you to shoot anything coming out of an area specifically

[urban rover]

Thats kinda why i was wanting HB, as someone who has to learn everything, some extra survivability would be cool. While also having decent damage output with the buffs and running technitian for the lazer pointer

[subtle bluff]

You don't need strikers,an it's just easy answer. You need to do your role. Kill something quickly.

[bronze hound]

If they're shooting at hunters then mark the hunters I don't understand

[subtle bluff]

You don't need survival in raids and if you mess up it wouldn't matter in some cases you'll just get one shot or wipe the raid.

[cerulean smelt]

but hunter not dying noone getting healed?

[meager horizon]

Basically they're asking what if there's only hunters to mark and you need to heal your team for them to be able to kill the hunters

I guess?

[bronze hound]

Then that's a skill issue

It's countdown you'll be jammed anyways

[meager horizon]

But with my Walmart take on healers you can heal without having to kill hehe

[bronze hound]

Not for very long

[meager horizon]

To be fair you could probably run a weird healer while immune to being jammed

[flint wave]

no amount of support build is gonna solve shit teammates

[meager horizon]

The amount of new players I've seen in legendary content this week without having any idea of what they were doing or any semblance of a build was staggering

[flint wave]

sometimes you gotta live with the fact that there will be mfs who are addicted to playing the hardest difficulty known to man with 30hrs of playtime and subsequently getting their ass kicked

I do the same thing

but its worth it when you stop getting your ass kicked

[subtle bluff]

Don't remind me..... I did one RMM incursion this week too. My back hurts...

[storm mist]

Hi newbie here I have a question..

[subtle bluff]

Hi newbie

[storm mist]

I have umbra pieces with red core..I want to make it blue core..How can I change it? Thru tinkering or I need to grind it again as target loot?

[onyx sage]

tinkering

[subtle bluff]

It only drops as a Red.

[serene tiger]

In tinkering. It's the recalibrate section of tinkering

So select the item in your , then hit "M" on PC, then it should take you right to tinkering that item and just select the red weapon core and change it to armor

I do have a question of my own if anyone could guide me to a place to find it or the answer to it.

Where the F do I get the striker's chest and holster BPs?

I don't believe they're behind descent and I already completed that's season's BP's as I have system corruption and those were the 2 sets released that particular season.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

[storm mist]

I see..i will check first if my library is already have max on armor thanks..

[onyx sage]

descent only gives named item blueprints, so striker bp won't be there ever

chest and holster blueprints for striker do not exist at all

you'll have to farm them the good old way

[cerulean smelt]

the way i see it, if it's not listed in yoru crafting station it doesn't exist. if it's there and greyed out with "how to obtain it listed a past season" then you can pray they put the game on life support and rerun the seasons

[serene tiger]

Ugh. I was afraid of that.

I have been but just was kind of like 'wtf' why don't I have these 2?

[meager horizon]

Meanwhile I'm still looking for said vendor

💀

[serene tiger]

Ahhh right. I totally forgot about that.

Thanks folks! 🤘🏻🍻

[bronze hound]

Aren't they in the descent pool?

I swear at one point they were

[cerulean smelt]

far as i know Descent only gave out named items blueprints

[glad heart]

Gamepass Event project gives named item blueprints upon completion...

[cerulean smelt]

facepalms

[cerulean smelt]

someone was asking about getting 2 specific striker blueprints to craft, was commenting about if it doesn't exist on the crafting station with text to obtain it, doesn't exist. ChampionEevee thought descent would drop them, but i commented that as far i know descent drops named blueprints.....

[glad heart]

I have never seen a striker blueprint...

[cerulean smelt]

i don't have a chest blue print but i do have this, not sure what the other 3 are but they do exist for 4 pieces

[rich lotus]

Can anyone show me a good build for dps im farming striker parts atm but need a good layout for a build pleas

[solar sable]

4pc Striker's
Coyote's Mask
Ceska vest w/Obliterate

Attributes: Crit DMG (mainly) and Crit Chance

[cerulean smelt]

check the pins here?

[rich lotus]

I’m new here mate no need to be obnoxious

[rich lotus]

Thank you very much I appreciate it

[tired falcon]

do you mean you need a good build to get the striker gear for a better build?
If so, then just about any ordinary red build with Memento, Coyote, Catharsis or Centurion holster will do.
By red I mean something like contractors, foxes prayer, fenris, ceska, groupo

[cerulean smelt]

there's pins in the upper right hand corner and in there is a spread of builds reds/blues/yellows, some people just don't know it exists. so i'm just asking check the pins in case you know where to find it

[rich lotus]

No I did mean like was I doing the right thing going for striker and what critical changes but honestly that’s mainly what I’m running rn just missing the coyote mask 🙌🏻tysm bro

[rich lotus]

Appreciate it just came off obnoxious when I didn’t even know what that is thank u mate

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, just check them out. look at the other builds that seems fun, strikers is just an easier to get started build then use that to farm the other stuff you want to try

[tired falcon]

no prob. The short answer to your question is yes, if you don't already have a general purpose striker build then it should be your priority to complete it

[rich lotus]

I thought it was supposedly the best dps 😂😂honestly just care about getting rid of enemies fast 😂😂😂thank u mate

[rich lotus]

Ahh thank you just didn’t wanna grind out the pieces to be told I shouldn’t have 😂😂😂😂

[cerulean smelt]

it does it's job, but i prefer the 1 shot headshot builds (> <)

[tired falcon]

best dps can be just about anything in this game. For example: 4 hotshot, chainkiller, airaldi backpack with concussion talent; headshot dmg everywhere, sniper with determined talent, you'll be 1 shotting almost everythingt

[cerulean smelt]

i go turmoil why 1 headshot when you can 2 headshot? (> <)

[subtle bluff]

That example is not dps. That just a 1hs build.

[solar sable]

Hotshot is NOT DPS.

[cerulean smelt]

so if the pins has it all red it's not dps build? 🤔

[rich lotus]

These builds confuse the nuts off me yalls brains putting that info together to create that outcome is beyond my capabilities so I’ll copy builds like a good boy

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much what i do except a few things

[tired falcon]

lol; have you tried the following just for the LoLs build?
Memento
turmoil
aces & eights
your sniper of choice as primary
merciless as secondary

[rich lotus]

Even trying to read that spreadsheet nearly put me over the edge 🤣

[tired falcon]

it can be if you chain the kills fast enough 😛

[cerulean smelt]

it's tough at first but when you get used to builds you just start seeing where they're going and be like ah ok

[cerulean smelt]

i even do that with Imminence (> <)

[rich lotus]

Truth only a week back in not expecting to be making builds yet 😂

[onyx sage]

he means that the build doesn't technically measure with "damage per second"

[subtle bluff]

Build hub tab

[tired falcon]

lol @rich lotus you don't need a spreadsheet. Just go with the basics

• get Coyote, Memento, Catharsis
• get striker gear
• get ongoing directive gear

that's all you really need to start with

you'll know that you've become an expert player since your sense of humour will diminish over time....just look at the folks getting upset over the usage of the word dps in relation to a build

[rich lotus]

Tysm mate I will do I already got coyote just gotta get god striker gear all the stats on the gear I’m getting is beyond bad only got a good chest 😂 thank you mate just wanted to understand what builds are too since not many videos explain it simplistically 😂😂 and ah yes I aspire to take the game more serious then taking in air I can’t wait 🥳

[glad heart]

I'll have to go in -game to see what I may have... going from memory, which at 71, well sucks

[cerulean smelt]

yeah, i don't have chest and holster but all the others are there but i'm not too worried about not having them anyways

[glad heart]

Striker is way easy to put together without crafting anyway

[tired falcon]

@cerulean smelt speaking of that new brand set Imminence Armaments, the countdown vendor has the named cloak kneepads with 7.7% headshot dmg

[cerulean smelt]

probably looked but i already had my 3 pieces already and wanted knees for fox's or turmoil, for now it's turmoil (> <)

[summer flax]

hey guys, what do u think of this?

TLDR was given this build as a raid starter pack years ago but im wondering its theres anything that you guys would recommend here?

i must say this LMG hits extremely hard in heroic.

[cinder wedge]

what's the best special weapon for dps

i used to use the sniper on ps4 although i never made a build for it and it hit hard

[onyx sage]

would recommend another backpack and chest talent but it's fine for heroic

[summer flax]

ok

[tired falcon]

I suggest using hollow mask and foxes prayer instead of 3 x petrov (keep the contractors), and 3 x Lengmo instead of providence.
Especially the backpack, the perfect variant of Unstoppable Force is from the Lengmo brandset

[cerulean smelt]

why hollowman?

[tired falcon]

hollowman is the named Yahhl mask that has 14% damage to health

[cerulean smelt]

yeah i know, but why use it?

[tired falcon]

damage to health for those electronics, and for the weakpoints of certain enemy types (mainly chungas)

[shy willow]

No real reason to use hollow man

Griefs your crit

[cerulean smelt]

very long time ago hollowman, contractor's and fox's was needed in every one of your builds as all 3 did a severe amount of damage

[solar berry]

now its ok since perfect attributes got nerfed abit

[shy willow]

👴

[cerulean smelt]

i tell ya the pieces was hard to find especially the backpack and chest

well, chest, forgot i was using ninja to test it out a bit then moved to memento

[summer flax]

lol ok

[solar berry]

i believe it. im just personally not a skill person

[cerulean smelt]

tried picaro's but was like nah, going regular so if i get it chc/chd i can change the core to weapon if needs be XD

[solar berry]

id assume 10% wd be worth

[cerulean smelt]

miss out on chc/chd in stats?

[solar berry]

im 3pcs away from a perfect clutch build...

need all of them with chd and health... 😪 @cerulean smelt

[cerulean smelt]

oh going to utilize this season modifiers to go over the 60% chc so you're always filling up your armor with clutch?

[solar berry]

just in general. never actually polished it up lol

its ok in lower end content in pve. main focus is pvp

[cerulean smelt]

ahhh

[cunning rain]

anyone dropping caretakers for new players?

[cerulean smelt]

3 umbra, 2 striker huntsman is entertaining

[subtle bluff]

Wrong channel

[cunning rain]

which is correct?

lfg?

[dim stump]

Loking for a good damage build

[solar sable]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/16HdKj8x-LlXJCcVPAWNZWIb0SXcQOmAfAh1cHYYsxwI/edit?usp=sharing

[dim stump]

The best place to farm this would be tower correct?

[solar sable]

Challenging Countdown

[summer flax]

itll crit

still working on my watch tho

[verbal gust]

Phakan w umbra is amazing

[kind crest]

ive been using and liking this for lmgs tbh but there are better versions to use, swap out the mask for coyote and the chest for lengmo and then u should have the highest dps

[solar berry]

why not ceska chest for more chc

[subtle bluff]

This is not a good build for start or people that don’t have many builds. I can’t recommend lengmo build due to how hard it is to farm.

[kind crest]

thats very true yea :) didnt look at his watch before i sent it😅

[kind crest]

higher ticks with this and i kinda prefer it that way tbh😅

[subtle bluff]

Otherwise I love the build.

[kind crest]

thank u :) still hunting for that lengmo chest, maybe that will get me off using perfect glass cannon once i get it😫

[subtle bluff]

I run Turmoil and Lengmo Chest with GC.

[kind crest]

🥲lengmo gc, one day

[subtle bluff]

It’s blue tho for me

[kind crest]

and does turmoil work good with pesty ? the tics dont transfer to another ad right ? or do they

[subtle bluff]

They don’t. The thought process is that tick cover the missing damage then it allows me to stacks more on the current target.

Then it help the tick go farther if the tick lands on the already hurt guy.

[kind crest]

ahh yea that does make a lot of sense, i might try it out because stacking ticks can be kinda annoying sometimes

never been a fan of turmoil but stacking ticks sounds like a good use for it

[solar berry]

turmoil only divides your main bullet dmg to an nearby target. but turmoil dont double stack with anything even striker

[subtle bluff]

Anything below Heroic the build just chews thru.

[subtle bluff]

We know that.

[kind crest]

yea i never use it on anything else than heroic tbh, even in 4 player heroic its good enough imo

[subtle bluff]

I know it is. I just can’t be bothered going slower meh.

I have used it once in awhile.

[kind crest]

yea ik, i just dont like them because of the split damage thing😅 usually i want my single target damage as high as possible

[subtle bluff]

I’ll use when the group is ok but I get a lot RMM into bad groups.

I only use Turmoil in 2 things. My pesti build and section 3 of Master Keslo with modifiers on.

[kind crest]

yea when u need to carry its difficult to use but ive gotten so bored of striker recently that im only using that build, hhf and sometimes cc/heals in heroic

[subtle bluff]

I hotswap them off for hunters.

[kind crest]

yea that section it makes sense, way too spread out lol

[subtle bluff]

Ditto. I use enough Strikers incursion. I’ll throw it on when there’s a leggo group that I can’t carry with nego

[kind crest]

haha yea exactly, incursion and legendary has gotten me sick of strikers

also have u tried final measure on lovebirds ? might be a new strat tbh

[subtle bluff]

I don’t use striker even in leggo anymore only boss sections.

[kind crest]

u can completely skip ads and invulnerable phases

[subtle bluff]

It is but it’s still slower and not as efficient.

[kind crest]

ahh im guessing oneshot or hhf ? or do u use something else :)

[subtle bluff]

I know I’ve tested it on PTS with my clan

[subtle bluff]

Nego

I’ve carried so many more teams with nego Bluescreen

[kind crest]

nego ? that holds up in legendary ?😅 sorry i dont play legendary much lol

[subtle bluff]

YUP. It’s great

I need to make a showcase video of the build.

[kind crest]

ohh nice :D it felt fast in some runs but yea its weird to use, i do still see potential for it but the current strat is just already really good

[subtle bluff]

My fastest lovebirds is 41 sec from gate open.

[kind crest]

may i ask what the build roughly is ? im guessing nego backpack but im not sure

[kind crest]

ouu nice :D i think final measure actually comes really close to that

[subtle bluff]

Bluescreen, 4pc nego, ceska obli and exodus gloves

[kind crest]

ill try it out im actually kinda curious, ive heard nego competes/outperforms with striker in terms of damage

[subtle bluff]

There’s some cooking strats but the issue is that we have strikers on and need stats and we can’t change loadouts.

[kind crest]

yea exactly it cant really be used in speedruns, ive had a guy say "just use exodus to hotswap" but then u would lose so much time

[subtle bluff]

IDK if outperforms strikers but I have much Cleaner leggo when using it.

The idea that I’ve working with other guys that carry/teach incursion all the time is using FM to make lovebirds easier and not having to use the dumb tent strats

[kind crest]

only possibility i see is when someone opens the metal grate thingy to go down the ladder after wright is that someone uses a grenade to get rid of all their armor so exodus pops and then hotswap, if ur at 30 expertise on all armor and full reds a grenade wont kill u

[subtle bluff]

But we’ve done too many incursion runs with 3 FTC and it taking over an hour because…. Ya

[kind crest]

😭i could never do 3ftc, i always do 2 ftc max tbh, me and my girl run ftc's through a lot and since we duo the incursion all the time its honestly an easy carry

on average i would say it takes about 14mins with ftcs

[subtle bluff]

I’ve hurts others for how many times I’ve done it.

This was worse but this was a RMM I did because I was bored.

I didn’t teach or say anything…

[kind crest]

😭141 kills and almost 40mins yea that looks like a nightmare

[subtle bluff]

Someone wanted to “tank” wright…

8 phase Wright he was enraging when we killed him.

[subtle bluff]

Purely the amount of dmg I did is nuttie

[kind crest]

ive seen people do that so much yea, once had a russian guy scream his lungs out in gamechat because i was soloing showers as a healer and he wanted to use his bulwark shield to get wright on a plate instead

for example basically the second wright spawned he ran in, pulled a valve, ran over to lounge and let wright hit his shield, then continued to scream at us for not pulling lounge😭🙏🏼

[subtle bluff]

Read Bluescreen talent then think of how Nego works. Spray everything and then just start start DPS the things that are safe for you to do hit.

[kind crest]

haha yea but its still so annoying that they havent fixed the negative damage thingy

idk if it can be fixed since its like baked into the game but its still annoying

[subtle bluff]

heh heh… I had someone with a Blue EP full hazpro that try to just tank wright hits.

[kind crest]

yea exactly i already thought of that in my head :) i roughly know the bluescreen talent but never used it before

[subtle bluff]

It’s baked. I need to save the website that you can calculate the dmg correctly.

[kind crest]

there is a website for that ?

[subtle bluff]

The math is done in 32 bit integers

[kind crest]

ohh and would u say immediately getting the bluescreen up to 30 exp is worth it ? ill also assume its around 55% chc ?

[subtle bluff]

It’s used in other things

[kind crest]

yea thats whats causing the problem right ? only goes up to 2.1 something something bil

[subtle bluff]

I didn’t at first. TBH I use to hate on Bluescreen and I still do if people thing it’s a good DPS weapon.

[kind crest]

i mean its a gr9 in a fancy suit tbh so the damage is always going to be lacking but the cc thing seems amazing

also what skills if i may ask ? i feel like u also use a skill that could proc the talent without having to kill someone

[subtle bluff]

None. Just kill a red or have someone kill a red.

[kind crest]

ahhh so it also counts if someone else kills thats nice i didnt know that

[sullen night]

Yea that's a common misconception to need a skill, killing a dude is enough to get it going

[subtle bluff]

I use Decoy and either EMP sticky or Banshee pulse

[kind crest]

i was just thinking for emergency situations or something :) kills will ofc be the easiest but if ur overrun then a skill could help with the cc

[sullen night]

ow ok

[subtle bluff]

The thing is with Bluescreen and nego you control the overrun

It’s is by far next to HF the best at camping spawns.

[kind crest]

ahh okay nice ive always liked to use decoy and emp sticky thats amazing :D

[subtle bluff]

Outright best combo imo.

[kind crest]

ill try it out :) honestly sounds like a fun build to get away from striker lol

[subtle bluff]

I’m curious once Catalyst is fixed it’ll be good or not

[kind crest]

but thank u for telling me :D

[kind crest]

could be really nice yea, just a little less survivability i guess

[subtle bluff]

The other build I’m slowly advising people that what to do something different is OD, Bluescreen, Galvanize

Doesn’t need Galvanize but it’s more of focus on supporting.

[subtle bluff]

Yea vs exodus glove. But I am curious how it would feel. I already for get the talents.

[kind crest]

never used exodus before either😅 i usually just go full dps, my only survivability is my dps

but ive seen people really like it so im curious to test it out, seems like a really solid build

[subtle bluff]

It’s 2nd one-shot protection but that also reset your agro

[kind crest]

so also blue cores im guessing right ? otherwise galvanize wouldnt do much

[subtle bluff]

Naw it’s a lil armor nothing special you could.

[kind crest]

ohh i thought it was like a full support build, my head immediately went to countdown or something

[subtle bluff]

The one guy that running it says it’s working well enough. Also running survivalist for the 10% amp to status effect buff

He’s using it in Master and Leggo

[kind crest]

hmm i mean od in leggo doesnt sound like good dps but as support its great

[subtle bluff]

It’s not amazing but it’s still doing something with buffs since you’re marking everything for Bluescreen anyways.

50% is still more than Nego dmg for single target.

[kind crest]

yea thats true :) ill go and try out the build u said, should have everything on deck so ill just put it together, im guessing gunner for the aok ?

[subtle bluff]

More for the RoF buff

Since you’re killing all but ya gunner

[kind crest]

ahh yea that makes sense, i wish it was more than 7% tho😫

alright but have a nice day :) thank you for the build recommendation i cant wait to try it

[subtle bluff]

Yes have fun.

I’ll need to make a guide for this build. Give me any opinion once you stat using it.

[terse scroll]

how could i squeeze out more dmg from this build? change my fenris to something else? i can't remember which brand set gives you 1pc chd

[solar sable]

by not using Chamaleon lol

use something else instead of chamaleon

[shy willow]

Replace fenris with ceska, use glass cannon, use a better gun than cham

And slot in the striker bag

[terse scroll]

it' so fun though xD

i just swap between my Chameleon and Elmos usually

[terse scroll]

what would the 4pc be for striker?

bag, gloves, holster, kneepads ?

[shy willow]

Any 4 including the bag and excluding the chest unless doing incursions or legendary or countdown

[terse scroll]

is 46 fine for CHC or would you try to get it over 50%?

[solar sable]

somewhere between 52-57%

[terse scroll]

sick, just need to get a ceska chest and then i think that should be decent

[sick depot]

i got rifle merciless, but due to recoil its pretty bad for me, is it possible to make it beast? its the only one exotic i got

[subtle bluff]

I've tried. You can make build that's fun with it but nothing crazy.

[sick depot]

is there any way to change game settings of random bounties? im playing normal difficulty but somehow im keep getting into Heroic lobbies, im to weak for that

[subtle bluff]

Point you at #ask-td2-community this is a build channel.

[sick depot]

oh wait my bad

[subtle bluff]

No worries, just more eyes over there.

[oak python]

Best AR/SMG/LMG to use?

[subtle bluff]

There's no overall best. Depend what you're using it for and what situtation.

[warm socket]

Any good dz pvp builds?

[unreal parrot]

returning to the game after years i have no idea what to build and i have no good gear except a mid strikers build😭

[heady flax]

What's a good build for raids??

[lofty frigate]

striker,future initiative,tanker etc
many things

[sick depot]

at level 40 i got 6 piece set Measured Assembly, should i use it as long as possible or i can just find items with + weapon damage? since i want to shoot for gazzilion numbers?

[terse scroll]

gazillion numbers you'll probs be looking at a striker gear set build.
measured assembly is a skill gear set

[real crest]

What do after story)

[maiden brook]

How do you make a build I don’t understand what to do I’ve got striker but I’m really struggling with it

[rugged needle]

I no longer bother with YouTube videos or the recommendations of others. I use ChatGPT. You'll be surprised how good the answers are if you ask the right questions.

[old warren]

What am I doing wrong that my damage is just non existent in any pve? I feel like I have to use an entire mag on a standard enemy with a gun like the lmg stoner with 120k damage. I just reached shd level 56 so still new but cannot understand it. I am running full striker build at the moment

[urban latch]

can you post a screenshot of your build?

[rugged needle]

The Devil is - as always - in the Detail. Its not enough just to equip 4-Piece Striker. I personally maintain that there are only two ARs for Striker: Chameleon and St. Elmos. Add Fenris Chest with Obliterate Talent and "Liquid Engineer" Backpack with "Perfect Bloodsucker". Add Striker Shield and you have high survivability and with Chameleon +90% Weapon Damage for 45s which is huge. I do all heroics solo. Burst Damage is with St. Elmos higher but its just personal Taste i prefer Chameleon. Even the Huntsman or the Caretaker cannot compete with them.

[urban latch]

your absolutely wrong on your ARs take....

[ruby parrot]

i have St. elmo for my striker build, third attribute bis is dttooc?

[rugged needle]

Nope.

[urban latch]

what do you mean nope lol. chameleon is not really regarded highly among ARs. Its a short range weapon comparable to SMGs, which beat it out. As far as elmos, its fine, but its not a top damage option. How what you value the shock is preference, but it other ARs absolutely compete (and out damage it)

[urban latch]

theres a pinned google doc that has a bunch of info and build guides, including strikers

[rugged needle]

You can reject an assertion without evidence just as easily. Therefore "Nope". That's why I wrote "I personally", i.e. my opinion. Everything tested and experienced for myself apart from the bare numbers. Many people simply can't play the Chameleon because you have to play the talents "correctly". And it is by no means a short-range weapon - this statement alone shows a bit of incompetence. Which AR would you recommend? I am curious.

[loud pine]

are you trolling

[urban latch]

chameleon has the accuracy and optimal range of an SMG, it very much is a short range weapon.

And Im talking bare numbers here as well. All the ARs are fairly well balanced, there really arent huge outliers, but the lexington, famas, F2000, and now the caretaker are top options. Elmos is aa fine choice, plently of people like it, but its really nothing crazy. Its biggest downside is that it costs you a small amount of damage and your exotic weapon slot, which because its so close/behind other high end ARs often makes it not worth running.

[urban latch]

this is what using chatgpt to do all your critical thinking does to a person

[loud pine]

its almost too dumb to seriously believe but chameleon warriors are dogmatic enough that i can believe that it isnt trolling

[old warren]

I’m so confused right now☹️ what’s good what’s bad what must I not do lol

[urban latch]

check the pinned google doc

[agile pelican]

is best new build, Hollow Man (Yaahl), momento, 4 piece umbra?

[urban latch]

no...

[agile pelican]

what is

[urban latch]

best for what? are you looking for a pvp build?

[agile pelican]

no

pve survivability and dmg

was using heartbreaker exodus and bluescreen

[loud pine]

just stick with heartbreaker i suppose

full red strikers best survivability because everythings dead

[agile pelican]

aparently what I said is new best build

[loud pine]

according to who?

[urban latch]

theres no "best new build". strikers with memento/obliterate is a solid option with both damage and survivability, but its also not at all new

[agile pelican]

about 5 new videos in past few days

[urban latch]

stop watching clickbait

[loud pine]

of course its from youtube

[agile pelican]

so with the new season theres no sick new builds I should go for

and stick with what I already have, sounds fun...

[loud pine]

hollow man 14% health damage and 10% hazpro best survivability

[urban latch]

things dont massively change each season. The build you mentioned has no new gear, all of that has been around

[agile pelican]

but the new modifiers are what make it work

[loud pine]

if you want ‘best’ survivability and damage then you may as well go strikers with gunner + palisade chest or some other shit like memento

[worn bough]

Returning player so not all hip in the lingo. Been running Heartbreaker w/ Chameleon rifle. Looking for something different. Like a marksman build. Ideas?

[shy willow]

In any case hollow man isn't needed at all

Like raucey said nothing new

Imminence is a nice shake up and FM is something new but hardly game changing

[urban latch]

headhunter builds are some of the best builds in the game. Check out either the sniper build or the regulus headhunter builds in the pinned google doc

[rugged needle]

With memento you have always to follow the marks which restricts your movement. Thats the downside of it.

[urban latch]

your not restricted to chasing every one....

[full bane]

halp, im full inventory and stash, i dont know what to deconstruct/sell and what to save

im new player, reached 40 lvl - 67 shd, never crafted anything or tinkered and im lost, if anyone could guide me lil bit please 😇

[rugged needle]

To get the most out of the Memento Talent you have to. And no other AR has such a powerful talent like Adaptive Instinct. That gives you the freedom to invest a bit in Survivabiltity which makes heroics solo relatively easy. In nearly every situation you melt down everything in 45 seconds. As i said you must use the Chameleon correctly.

But the St. Elmos is also a good choice. I use them for a Dilemma build.

[urban latch]

First thing to keep in mind for making builds is having the right rolls is better than just random max rolls. You can change 1 stat on any gear piece you pick up, so gear your looking for is 1 roll away from having the right stats for a build. This makes high end chests and backpacks the hardest to get since you have 2 minor attributes and a talent to get right.

Gear with a max roll and other bad stats you can put into your tinker station/library. You'll use that to roll gear and make builds.

Other gear thats not 1 roll away from having the stats you want or has something you can put into your library, you can either sell, deconstruct, or put towards your expertise system

[full bane]

thats me right now

using 2 sets for crit chance, got bad weapon i think, i mean im know im doing everything bad but il try to follow your guidelines, can i approach you in private for more advices? videos/recordings etc?

[urban latch]

read the descriptions of the gearsets. gearsets vs high end gear give up a minor attribute, but what makes that worth it is the 4p talent. If your running two 3p sets your getting neither

[hexed steppe]

Pinned spreadsheet has detailed breakdowns for each build, usually with a couple variations

[agile pelican]

whats a good build for PvE for aggresion and survivability that also works in group play & solo.

im running this but is there anything I may prefer?

[sick depot]

is it "optimal" to target loot helmets for coyote mask on coutdown when i am only 35 shd lvl?

[hazy steeple]

@sick depot Your SHD Level has no impact on drops.

[sick depot]

i know but which my level u can guess that everything i own is very bad :- D

and maybe there's better gear to farm at this point

[bronze hound]

@hazy steeple opinions?

it actually has 100% aok

[hazy steeple]

I have no strong thoughts one way or another.

[bronze hound]

lol

[warm socket]

Any good pvp builds? Darkzone

[safe thunder]

guys someone got one shot build with sniper?

[solar sable]

#td2-build-advice message

[safe thunder]

cool thanks , how much dmg u make?

[solar sable]

27mil+ headshots

[agile pelican]

Anyone able to recommend me their build? for PvE for aggresion and survivability that also works in group play & solo

[hazy steeple]

Hunters Fury is great in solo, group, and can self-sustain your health quite easily.
There's a guide for it in the 📌 > spreadsheet 2 > builds of this Channel.

[rich lotus]

Look at striker builds they are good dps builds

[warm socket]

Looking for a good dz pvp Build

[bronze hound]

@warm knot not ninjabike

[warm knot]

Hm, what?

[bronze hound]

what

[meager horizon]

what

[warm knot]

Dunno I got randomly ping lol

[bronze hound]

no the discussion in #td2-general-chat

[warm knot]

I was talking about Rivens. And it was just a joke

[bronze hound]

she was talking about my build lol

[hazy steeple]

I was not.

[bronze hound]

oh oops

[finite bluff]

Would lexington or ouroboros work better with striker build?

[hexed steppe]

Either

Its preference at that point. Could use both

[finite bluff]

So it goes like
lexington/ouroboros
acs12 with perk i genuinely forgor name of
kard most preferably?

[hazy steeple]

Striker is so overtuned, that you could throw on a stick with a frowny face taped to it, and you'd still clear Heroic.

[finite bluff]

I mean I still genuinely suck since I returned to the game only like two days ago.

[hexed steppe]

Acs really isnt needed. Oreo or lex will stack well

[finite bluff]

Fair enough, ill try both.

[hazy steeple]

Depending on how long you've been gone for, you may not have access to Lex'

[finite bluff]

oh no I still picked it up its in my storage

I just quit the game for a while so I barely remember how what works and proper basics.

ty btw

[finite bluff]

wait were you always a mod?

[hexed steppe]

Dps is like riding a bike. Start shooting/melting things and itll come back to ya

[finite bluff]

fair.

[hexed steppe]

Not always, no.

[finite bluff]

ah, congrats, I dont think you were one first we talked

[hexed steppe]

Thanks 🍻

It's a recent change

[hazy steeple]

local' is our baby mod!

[hexed steppe]

Except it's like Benjamin Button, and I'm already super old

Dont think I'll get any younger tho unfortunately

[finite bluff]

alright I think we should probably move to general chat or somewhere. (actually i have nothing to add anymore, sorry and thank you for your time, take care)

[fair dragon]

Baby mod
Dodo dodo dodo

[glossy scarab]

this build is far from optimized and the harvest needs more expertise, but it still hits for 17.5 mil non crit headshot. its a punch drunk, a claws out and chainkiller w 3 pc imminent. my hunters fury pistol build hits under 15 mil. but its still more viable because the armor on kill from HF. i need to get more good pieces for this build so i can at least use memento on it.

[rich lotus]

Can anyone tell me if this is a decent backfire build or what should I change

[safe thunder]

Hey man i was thinking on building this for control points , how is it against named élite enemies? Can u oneshot them?

If u dont know can u try ? ( lv 4 control poi t )

[glossy scarab]

i might be able to if all my gear was optimized and i max the expertise on the harvest. pretty sure i cannot do that right now and also its really easy to get killed even with the bulwark shield and healing skills

[hexed steppe]

You only need 4pc of a gearset (green). Go with a grupo or ceska chest with obliterate

[hexed steppe]

Personally I would farm an ia chest and use fox's knee

[safe thunder]

Mhhh right , if i build it i would be in the same position as u rn , can u try one? I need to know before doing it

Im trying to find a build similar if u guys got some , share it please

[glossy scarab]

yeah i'll give it a go. i heard the servers are down right now so im not sure when i'll be able to log in

[rich lotus]

Cheers bro I’ll try that now I’ve hella good sets farmed just mis matching as I only hit shd levels two days ago😂

[hexed steppe]

Nice. Ceska and grupo will be useful in a ton of dps setups. Just want to make sure you dont go over 60% chc on the build. If capping out, use grupo

[glossy scarab]

also 2pc ceska will give you 20% hazzo protecto

[rich lotus]

I don’t think I am I’ve put most of my mods down as crit dmg instead of chc but I’ll try add it all up appreciate it ✌️

[agile isle]

I was thinking about, if TP could go with the backfire with the inherent blue drop. and the added explosions and regen? might try it later.

[safe thunder]

Lmk here ping me or dm me its the same

Anyway thanks for giving it a go

[glossy scarab]

i'll probably try a memento version with an imminent chest instead of chainkiller

[safe thunder]

Ok ,👍

[summer flax]

Its finally over lol

[lilac root]

problems with server? keep getting disconnected

[glossy scarab]

whats your area?

[hexed steppe]

If you goto you stats tab you'll see your totals. There should be a key to swap weapons so you can see stats for your secondary/pistol/spec weapon as well.

[rare kettle]

whats a good gear set to use for skill builds? im trying to make a skill/defense build

[glossy scarab]

i had no problem at all with heroic CPs with this build, im using survivalist for the 10% pfe and im using a modifier for another 5% pfe. I wasn't able to one shot a named elite but otherwise this works really nicely and i had no problem with survivability

and im missing a whole 10% hsd on the chest piece

[kind crest]

@subtle bluff that build worked amazing btw :) only thing thats annoying is whenever ads get stuck in cover but usually activating the bluescreen talent by either killing or just shooting a emp sticky into the sky gets them out for a second to get a mark on them

[peak cloud]

Is there any optimal way to build for ravenous that is not high end? I kind of like this gun too much and would prefer to use it in pve. I imagine this is possible to achieve more than acceptable dps with it since past certain point it's just an excess anyway?

[subtle bluff]

Emp sky! Why didn't I think of that

[kind crest]

haha yea no cooldown its really nice :D

[subtle bluff]

Derp

[kind crest]

i also thought about trying the nego chest but i feel like the single target damage will lack so much that shooting things like chunga chains will become too time consuming, i might try it out later but honestly how u had the build is so nice

[onyx sage]

no wonder why i see all those speedrunners do that!!! but i don't think they have bluescreen tho...

the spirit of fam.broken9999 sometimes manifests in me and makes me sticky the sky too

[kind crest]

lmaoo exactly, its mandatory to shoot stickies into the sky

[summer flax]

This backfire build everyone is going crazy over. thoughts on it?

@subtle bluff i figured ud be in the know

[hearty owl]

Yeah mr chow is a big backfire guy

[summer flax]

it seems fun

[subtle bluff]

https://youtu.be/R6vJhXTo0lI?si=RzdZEE5GbOmHu9pM

[hearty owl]

I mean it’s a strong weapon if you have constant ads to kill because you can negate the bleed entirely

[summer flax]

watching

[verbal gust]

Centurion scabbard with pahkan lmg and rock and roll w weapon swapping talents vigil backpack. Whew

Also visionaro mask

[hearty owl]

awesome build

[zenith plover]

is the blueprint a good lmg?

[verbal gust]

All we need is an exotic or something that benefits mag size to weapon damage I was thinking chatter box but idk

[loud pine]

bluescreen is very good yes

nice with OD/ND builds

[zenith plover]

what is nd? OD is ongoing directice right?

[loud pine]

negotiators dilemma and yes

[arctic scaffold]

whats with the backfire striker builds is it meta now?

with striker/hazardprt

[hearty owl]

absolutely not

[arctic scaffold]

ah ok lol see alot of ppl runnin it now is why

[onyx sage]

because of the modifiers.

[solar berry]

Modifiers Make striker/haz pro build far more worth

[summer flax]

interesting. thank u for the info

[timid rain]

Any striker builds idea

[subtle bluff]

This is why people think it needs to be hazpro backfire. It God damn everywhere.

[subtle bluff]

These both one shot runs no plan just run it and see what happens.

[rich lotus]

Appreciate it is there a cap on crit damage too mines at 93%

Anyone try a build for the blue screen exotic lmg too?

[arctic scaffold]

what are the best modifiers to run rn?

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what. There is no cap on CHD.

[subtle bluff]

Depends on your build and gameplay.

[rich lotus]

Thank you was told there is for chance so wasn’t sure about damage

[subtle bluff]

CHC cap is 60. With modifiers you can go over.

[safe thunder]

How many runs u did , i need all 🥲

[plucky wigeon]

What is everyone's preferred shotgun with the brazen talent?

[subtle bluff]

It's the best talent. So any of them?

[hasty sluice]

ksg isnt the best but it just feels right to me.

[subtle bluff]

works for me too. The test it feel like m870 just a lil less dmg.

[plucky wigeon]

Good to know. I'm currently using either six12 or the sasg12

[hasty sluice]

my fave part about the ksg is the pump cycle + sound its just oooooh

[plucky wigeon]

Good point

[subtle bluff]

poor six12 got nerf too hard me to to use agian.

[cinder wedge]

whats the best special weapon for dps

[hazy steeple]

Going for the Journey mission? Sharpshooter's TAC-50 is really easy to get ammo for.

[cinder wedge]

i used to use the sniper but i never made a build with it

it would crack guys shields so fast the base version i mean

[hazy steeple]

Spec weapons are not really good for actual DPS, they're more of a way to get the bonuses that each tree has

If you're struggling to kill things with them, just lower the difficulty until you can. I personally use the Minigun on Normal.

[cinder wedge]

oki i just remembers base sniper was a fun in terms of damage

[hazy steeple]

A lot of them are a lot of fun, but the trick is that you need to use other gear to get ammo for them.

[cinder wedge]

oooooh oki

i used to use the patriot armor for the fireworks effect i highly doubt it worth it in term of stats but it was fun

might get a full set sometime

[bronze hound]

holy shit this build actually works like well

[craggy forge]

For solo pve heroic content, what is better to use, striker or heartbreaker?

[hazy steeple]

Both are fine.

[bronze hound]

its less about the build and more about how you use it

[craggy forge]

Heartbreaker is more tanky right? U can be way more offensive?

[summer flax]

Guess i should be chasing drops like these

[bronze hound]

but alternatively youll kill the enemies faster with striker because you do more damage, and a dead enemy cant kill you

its less about the build and more about how you use it

[craggy forge]

Is eb or st elmo necessary for a hb or striker build?

[bronze hound]

i dont use it

[hazy steeple]

@craggy forge Absolutely not.

[bronze hound]

nothing is "necessary" in this game

[hazy steeple]

That's just not true.

@craggy forge Exotics in div2, however, should be seen as a kind of "other option", for specific setups, rather than a straight upgrade for builds

[craggy forge]

Are ppl using EB for PvE or is it mainly used for PvP?

[hazy steeple]

It's mostly a PvP thing, but it's a day ending in Y, so people are turning against it again.

[ripe stone]

how do i get maxed mods for gear? please dont tell me luck through crafting or drops 😭

[bronze hound]

i hold true to just using what you want in pve
also it is luck

[ripe stone]

sobbing

[hazy steeple]

@ripe stone Crafting always scales down to Normal difficulty, it ignores your World setting.
The best way is to either farm Countdown, or stack up Directives via TL and play on as high a difficulty as you can manage.

[bronze hound]

for max mods the best chance is legendary summit

[craggy forge]

Farmimg st elmos is easier right? Since EB only drops from raid and i‘ve never seen the last boss die😂

[bronze hound]

EB doesnt only drop from raid it also has a small chance of dz drop

[hazy steeple]

Eevee, take a break.

[bronze hound]

??????

[ripe stone]

i only play on heroic, highest i got was 5.2% crit chance, directives sounds painful to do but i might give it a shot

[hazy steeple]

@craggy forge It effectively only drops from the Dark Hours Raid, yeah. The final key chest, and each boss all have a drop chance.
It can drop in the DZ, but the chance is literally 0.02%, with no way of buffing it.

[bronze hound]

if you hate raids its always possible

[ripe stone]

🤑

[hazy steeple]

@ripe stone Even on Legendary, you still have a chance to get a low roll for gear mods.

How difficulty works in div2, is that it increases your worst possible roll chance to be higher.

So overall, you'll get a higher chance for better loot the higher the difficulty is, but it's all a matter of balancing difficulty: time.
tl;dr, play high difficulty, stay fast whilst doing it.

[bronze hound]

some directives are pretty easy to work with like fog of war

[hazy steeple]

Directives just buff XP, and the chance for TL (targeted loot) itself to drop, they don't increase the quality of loot.

[bronze hound]

Yeah

[ripe stone]

ill give it a shot, its not really essential its moreso a question if they really exist 💀

[bronze hound]

I have a ton of max mods none of them are protection from elites 🥀

[hazy steeple]

I got a maxed shield health mod on Normal like 3 days ago.
It's all a matter of luck, and knowing how to weight your luck.

[ripe stone]

im looking for max crit damage since i already hit the 60% cap

[bronze hound]

Max mods are fairly common except for protection from elites

[hazy steeple]

I have dozens of those though.

max and near max.

[bronze hound]

Good for you

[hazy steeple]

This is why it's best to avoid making a definitive statement about anything in div2.

[bronze hound]

I genuinely don't believe you have a dozen 13% pfe mods

[hazy steeple]

I said max and near max.
I've probably had what, 6ish maxed over the years.
I got 3 maxed HSD mods just whilst farming out the Shepard Rank during the x3 event.

It's just RNG. I've also did over 100 CD runs without getting that maxed out pistol fire-rate for the library.

Ended up getting it from a Field Prof Cache.

Now I think it's time to go back to build-advice.

[loud narwhal]

Is there a good SMG build that is somewhat tanky? I've been using Heartbreaker and loving it. I got backfire and wanted to try it out and also am loving it. Heartbreaker is bonus LMG/AR damage. How much am I losing out if I use the backfire instead of an AR/LMG?

[subtle bluff]

The type of weapon doesn't build most of the time.
Don't sweat on LMG/AR dmg.

[rich lotus]

Yo I need advice I’m probably gunna have to grind gear pieces again cuz I think I messed up. I’m trying for a backfire build but my stats look horrible, 71.2% CHD 15.7% CHC and only 42.1% bleed resistance can someone please help (just realised I uploaded the wrong pic)

[subtle bluff]

Did you just delete and repost.

I am not promoting or helping backfire builds for solo pve.

[rich lotus]

Yea I uploaded the wrong pic 😂I uploaded the one I had from earlier but no problem no need to comment then really is there 😂😂😂

[subtle bluff]

It's just backwards build. You can output the same dps quicker with a normal build.

https://youtu.be/R6vJhXTo0lI?si=RzdZEE5GbOmHu9pM

[rich lotus]

I only just got the backfire tbh I’m waiting on the stoner lmg exotic so I can make a proper dps build backfire just the best gun I have atm I am shd 77😂😂

[subtle bluff]

Just keep farming don't need a build to use backfire

[rich lotus]

Cheers mate

[subtle bluff]

Exotics aren't always the best gear piece and aren't needed it all builds.

[rich lotus]

Yea tbh I’m just new trying to get a dps build going 😂 got handed a backfire and catharsis mask back to back out of exotic crates so just wanted to try do a fast dps build to farm a good striker build with, although I’ve no idea what I’m doing I seemed to make my build worse earlier went from this to this 😂

Just doing less damage 😂

[subtle bluff]

Again there a whole guide in the pinned messages that's us the time to explain the same thing to you here.

[light grove]

The problem is how long it takes to build CHD on backfire. You’re hamstrung a lot more trying to fit it in than you think.

[subtle bluff]

So many people don't understand that.

[pastel basin]

Anyone have a good healer/ foam build for pvp?

[cerulean smelt]

the other part, people think exotics are top of the line and don't understand one doesn't need any exotics. some just fit in with some very specific builds or like the scorpio is a good fit in to stop rushers from getting to you or at least give you time to get far away from them

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[solar token]

has streamline talent been incorporated into dps builds yet? seems like it could be pretty strong

[subtle bluff]

It's a playstyle. Since skills are very powerful.

[rich lotus]

Tried to read into the spread sheet just can’t make sense of it idk if it’s cuz I’m looking at it on my phone but half the things don’t show fully for me I wouldn’t ask for help otherwise 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[subtle bluff]

Download the app

[rich lotus]

Aye I did it still doesn’t expand things fully and don’t have a computer fs appreciate the effort just gunna try get someone to show me their dps build I can copy 😂but aye was not trying to build a backfire build just got handed it really and tbh want to copy a more dps build all the hazard pro and stuff seems to be more negative on my chc then the gun is worth😂

Like when I ask for advice I mean tell me is the backfire if bad witch you did so I appreciate it 👌

[subtle bluff]

I mean it's not that bad. Just in the context there's better.

[cerulean smelt]

sad how people want to use backfire but they got full on 100% haz pro effectively nerfing their damage just for that sake and probably still experience a quick blip of bleed

[subtle bluff]

Why I made my video for it.

[rich lotus]

Yea my mate told me put on haz to negate the bleed but the gun does so little then 😂all my slots are haz pro so I’ve just decided to rock a stoner lmg and diamondbacks 🤷

Going full red slots 😂😂😂😂

@subtle bluff appreciate the advice got off the backfire idea and my stats are looking better 🙌🏻

[subtle bluff]

This is old. But it's a good reference

[rich lotus]

Thank you very much mate I couldn’t access any of these from the spreadsheet I could see like half of it 😂😭thank u so much mate ✌️✌️

[bronze hound]

anyone got any ideas how i can improve this (no im not ditching FI nor doctor home)

[cinder wedge]

you know those extra pistols and stuff you can get by using a certain special weapon

which is the best i was thinking of going with the revolver at one point

[bronze hound]

huh?

[cinder wedge]

uyou can get a revolver once you select the sniper skill tree or soemthign i forgot the deatails

[subtle bluff]

Use OD instead. You just proc 2 things at the same time. FI isn't has useful. Using the FI backpacks is a waste.

[bronze hound]

read the parentheses

[subtle bluff]

I mean.... Why are you using FI then?

[subtle bluff]

Okay... Why are using FI backpack?

[bronze hound]

glitch

[subtle bluff]

Switch out fox's for backpack talent that'll either buff your dmg or help support more.

[bronze hound]

no thanks

[subtle bluff]

Ok wow. Just giving ideas for you. Doesn't seem you actually care to listen. GL HF then.

[bronze hound]

there is a very specific reason i am using that FI setup

[hasty sluice]

they are using it to proc the FI aoe heal via doctor home. Its bugged at kinda just stacks on itself for a burst full heal

[bronze hound]

someone gets it

[subtle bluff]

Someone explains it. I asked.

[hasty sluice]

use artists tool?

[bronze hound]

wait waht does artists tool do

[hasty sluice]

perfect rifleman

[bronze hound]

does that do more than an m1a with rifleman?

[verbal gust]

Woah. What did I miss? Lol

[hasty sluice]

burst wise yes.

[bronze hound]

i said im not changing these pieces he suggested changing those pieces i said no and now we are here

damn i dont have artists tool bp 😔

[subtle bluff]

I misread the OP and... Ya.

[bronze hound]

why do i have an adrestia in my stash lmao

[subtle bluff]

Is Doctor Scope a 8x?

[bronze hound]

indeed

[hasty sluice]

can you even get multiple of them?

[bronze hound]

if you delete characters after obtaining one ye

[verbal gust]

The way I read it it is yeah visually anyway

[bronze hound]

@subtle bluff

OIH MY GOD THE WHITE HOUSE IS BLUE WHAT THE HELL

[subtle bluff]

I just don't have game in front of me to look.

[bronze hound]

it is an 8x

[hasty sluice]

its unfortunte it doesnt work across squads

[verbal gust]

Yes it is I have it it’s 8x

[bronze hound]

yes it does

you can actively see that happening in that clip lol

[hasty sluice]

I didnt have the screen maxed so I didnt see other squad get very little armor

[bronze hound]

any ally within 5m gets insta-healed cuz that build is a tank, but on this dps build its just i get 100% heals

well its 108% in CD/raid and 54% in 4-player missions

[cerulean smelt]

about all i can think of is 2 Zwia?

15% mag size, 20% rifle damage

[hexed steppe]

bro is over here playing 4d chess

[subtle bluff]

Interesting interaction of talent. Build wise not much to change if those are your focus and you want to do some dps.
More support would be using FI chest for a bigger buff. Then you could use some other exo piece.

[subtle bluff]

I did it today too!

[hexed steppe]

just need to move into an alts inventory without decon if you want more adrestia to drop. no deletion needed

[bronze hound]

ah

[hexed steppe]

once you have the tally that alt is done* till project complete

[hasty sluice]

so the only way to proff it is just donate or make an alt and start the questline?

[hexed steppe]

if you have one you can put in on a build as a secondary weapon

let it gain from riding along

[hasty sluice]

well yeah but if you dont have it then... lol

[hexed steppe]

do you have an alt that you never used to break adrestia down?

[hasty sluice]

correct thats what I was making sure of

[hexed steppe]

also make sure no nemesis in stash or the alt you plan to use to obtain

as long as those conditions are met you can get one, once daily on that alt

[buoyant perch]

how does the doctor's home work these days? I remember multiple balance patches and bugs with it back in the day.

[bronze hound]

it has some weird interaction with FI where doctor home kits provide healing back to you

[buoyant perch]

so you shoot enemies and when they are killed by anyone, everyone get their armor back based on their own armor?

[bronze hound]

based on yours

[buoyant perch]

ah

[bronze hound]

but it works with FI so you set a ton of armour

[buoyant perch]

that's some wacky interaction

[bronze hound]

tbh im not sure if its a bug or an oversight

[buoyant perch]

who knows with this game

[bronze hound]

lol

[subtle bluff]

Thinking about this kind of class of build I wonder how FI doctor vs the OD, bluescreen, galvanized performance.

[urban rover]

Any advice for the Build? (keep in mind, im new to the "End Game" so this is the first time iv sat down and tried to farm out/set up a build, im missing a lot of exotics and specific named items)

[solar berry]

ceska chest with chd/chc and obliterate talent. striker kneepads

coyotes mask, exotic can be farmed everywhere with mask targeted loot. prefer countdown

[urban rover]

might sound incredibly stupid... Whats countdown? see a lot of people talk about it but im not familiar

[solar berry]

8 man pve activity

[urban rover]

is it an open world thing? or a matchmakeable thing

[cerulean smelt]

if you're going to run countdown do it on challenging. heroic people tend to check your watch level and build. if you're not upto snuff they boot you

[solar berry]

matchmake. can also be found at pilot, matchmaking tab or on the map as shown

[urban rover]

Ah, thank you!

[solar berry]

if you hold H on map, you can select your targeted loot as well

[urban rover]

so basicly run, countdown with Masks selected and pray for a coyote's?

fair enough, thanks for the info, very helpful

[solar berry]

basically. life of a looter shooter. can also use countdowm credits for exotic caches at the end as well

[cerulean smelt]

pretty much, unless you want to take your chances on the one missions coyotes spawns in and pray it drops there

[crisp swallow]

Newbies here looking for help with my build, doing tank shield build

[cerulean smelt]

good luck

[crisp swallow]

Why

[cerulean smelt]

my definition of a tank is one that can soak damage and keep all if not most adds attention which this game doesn't really have

[lyric prism]

what is that new set that stacks depending on distance? Virtuso or something?

[crisp swallow]

I need help moving attributes over I’ve never done this before

[subtle bluff]

Not new, it's kind of hard to use because of knowing distances.

[lyric prism]

but what is it called?

[subtle bluff]

Go look at Gearsheet. It's in the 📌 Pinned Messages

[lyric prism]

it is Virtuoso. ok

[cerulean smelt]

not sure how complicated sacrificing weapons and gear for attributes in your library is

[peak cloud]

Does ravenous explosion benefit from a total weapon damage bonus, like obliterate, or only from added flat weapon damage % bonus?

[verbal gust]

I see people getting 6mil ticks with pestilence. How? Is the build in the spreadsheet capable of that?

[subtle bluff]

We not getting 6 mill from pesti ticks. Max is near mill.
Where do you see this?

[verbal gust]

Oh 1 mil not 6 im dumb pressing numbers where I shouldn’t sorry.

[subtle bluff]

Yeah I was gonna say that impossible.

[verbal gust]

Yeah I had to do a double take on what I typed haha

[subtle bluff]

Pesti ticks scale from WD and TWD

[verbal gust]

So the more weapon damage you have the more the tick does?

Cause running with 3 blue Lengmo 🤣 and doing 775,000 tick lol

[subtle bluff]

That's about right.

The need to be red.

[stoic grove]

which equipement is the best for making tank/aggro build?

[subtle bluff]

There's is but we really don't recommend tank builds.

[stoic grove]

why mate?

[subtle bluff]

There is no agro table and what pulls the most agro is the doing the most.

Bullets hurt me a lot and there a lot of them. The best way of deal with them is unhealthing them.

There are support builds that help with better than tanks do.

[stoic grove]

ok i see so in your opinion which equipment works better to be a support

[subtle bluff]

In the pinned messages there a whole gdoc on it.

[finite bluff]

rq, what trait (or perk, I forgot terms) would work best on Lexington?

[verbal gust]

Theirs a pinned google doc with 100z of possibilities in the pinned msgs

[stoic grove]

ok ty

[subtle bluff]

There isn't overall best

[finite bluff]

You mean there isn't?

[subtle bluff]

Ya on mobile

[subtle bluff]

FI would be the better of most of them.

[peak cloud]

I mean. Legendary tank is possible, but only scenario in which they come handy is when the rest of the team are not pulling their own weight in a mission. So it would be pita to get through regardless of having a tank.

Otherwise I think foundry with large shield and the forge holster and love gloves, abd this exotic sidearm that stores stacks? And artificer hive.

I have seen people soaking bullete with this setup, but never got a good feeling if it myself. It feels masochistic to play.

[subtle bluff]

Here's the issue. You can't hold agro maybe one or 2 guys you can hold agro what are gonna do about the 10 others?

I also say there's 2 types of tanks maybe 3 but there's the selfish/stand upright tanks, support tanks, and bruiser dps.

[subtle bluff]

Forge gives tiny actual shield HP, Motherly Love? and Liberty pistol is really ass now with the D50 nerf 2 season ago.
This is a selfish/upright tank. Bring nothing to the team other trying to get into enemies face and trying to pull agro that you can't grab or hold.

[hearty owl]

If the rest of the team cannot pull their own weight what does tanking do to solve that?

You're not pulling every ad's aggro so your team is still dying

Except now you're down 1 more DPS player so the ads die even slower

Making an encounter longer does not make it easier

You should just put on a DPS build and run a decoy

[subtle bluff]

The new brandset can help with this a little but I've pulled agro off of it plenty of times.
The new gearset would help more than a tank because it'll protect from stuff.

The end story, a team needs to be able to take a target off the field in a reasonable time.

IMO All support builds need to do at least 2 of the following things;

• Keeping teammates upright thru either by repair/healing or giving bonus armor
• Buff or Debuff helping to team to do more % damage. Also taking off armor plates.
• CC ish meaning keep targets CC or moving them move out of cover
• Kind of half one, preventing skills from happening.

God I need just finish my support guide.

[subtle bluff]

This is all for 4 man leggo. Not heroics, solo or raids.

[verbal gust]

After I said that First countdown I did I got a backbone cc cd a holster cc cd and a chest with glass cannon w cc cd XD

[solar sable]

with crowd control and countdown? /j

[peak cloud]

Fair enough. It's possible to selfishly survive, but not worth it.

[subtle bluff]

Just one rusher ad can and will destroy your whole team if he get to them. You cannot control all of them if you're looking to help support them out.

[shy willow]

I miss D3

[verbal gust]

D3? Like Diablo?

[shy willow]

D3FNC

[shy willow]

Old div 1 tank set

[subtle bluff]

@verbal gust above

[verbal gust]

Sir your a legend

[subtle bluff]

There's no really good guide to it but there.

[hearty owl]

we call him ImMrGoat for a reason

[verbal gust]

Pics saved and working on farming version now which I probably have the pieces for

[subtle bluff]

If I actually put more effort and time into making the guides and stuff sure but I just like helping

[verbal gust]

He def is the advice on this channel tbf no one points to the pinned gdoc like he does man. What a legend. Jk but literally tho runs this channel fr haha

[hearty owl]

LMFAOO

[subtle bluff]

NAH... I'm just here for build advice. Gear and all of stuff there's guys that done them all.

Hopefully at some point we're trying tomake a better place for guides and info but it's takes time and there's not many us that are dev it all

[verbal gust]

We mrchow solute you. For your unprecedented amount of help for this channel. God speed

[hearty owl]

mr chud for mod fr

chow***

goddamn autocorrect

[verbal gust]

Chud? Listen Linda we needs no name calling here

[hearty owl]

im sorry 😭

[subtle bluff]

If I could kill off this dumb hazpro backfire meta then I'd feel I've won.

[verbal gust]

It’s all over the place it’s like a plague

[subtle bluff]

bruh.. That fat of fingers missing keys? LMAO

[hearty owl]

im too fat bruh

[verbal gust]

I mean his name proves he’s lying. Auto correct WHAT… 😂

[hearty owl]

exactly

[subtle bluff]

Whaet and his fun. ❤️ him anyways.

[hearty owl]

:3

[subtle bluff]

It's kind of his fault for me liking this game more than I should of.

[verbal gust]

Dude the other day I thought I was typing in here and I ended up sending my wife to look at the pinned messages on this channel.

[hearty owl]

😭 I remember taking Mr Chow through his first Incursion

That shi was a nightmare. But a good nightmare.

[verbal gust]

I bet he smoked them all

[shy willow]

My first was pubs matchmaking bruh

[subtle bluff]

I WAS A NOOB..

[onyx sage]

i look up to these players. i'm just average

[shy willow]

Sir

[verbal gust]

Ummm

[onyx sage]

it's true

[hearty owl]

I hate this average player guy he's taking up a spot in our clan

[verbal gust]

You mean your name or…

[onyx sage]

name reflects me

[shy willow]

Back to bed sir you're going delirious again

[onyx sage]

i haven't done as many good feats as these guys

[verbal gust]

Names reflect us all I mean just look at @shy willow .

[subtle bluff]

in different ways

[verbal gust]

I have 150+ hours in this game and have known 0 people but have done all the raids and incursion

[onyx sage]

i just play this game on the weekends as a solo player

[hearty owl]

sybau

[verbal gust]

I had a labotomy so i have an excuse

[onyx sage]

yeah nah i have no excuse

i just play on challenging these days

[verbal gust]

No kids no job just this chair and division 2

[hearty owl]

that's like most of the playerbase

[verbal gust]

And before you ask I do NOT look like my profile picture.

[hearty owl]

awww

[verbal gust]

I’m jk I work out 5 times a week

[solar sable]

don't lie
you can't even handle Hard to this day

[peak cloud]

Speaking of rushes. Their shields, do they count as an armor plate?

[onyx sage]

helmets? yes

[shy willow]

Sir my greatest achievement was s+ re4 and that was only a couple of months ago

[onyx sage]

sir i am washed

[verbal gust]

No they are not armor plates and they have thier own armor too

[peak cloud]

Ballistic shields. Basically the same thing, yes?

[peak cloud]

Ah...

[onyx sage]

you're talking about cleaners yes?

[shy willow]

🧐

[verbal gust]

If you look at the different types thier should be a “shield health” number. Shields also benefit from stamina tiers and skill tiers as well as skill health