td2-build-advice

[ebon summit]

this White Death worth keeping?

[solar berry]

I just wish it works with ND and Strega ect. But it’s only your main target gets the mark

Sucks that your ricochet target don’t get the benefit when you shoot the first target

[solar berry]

DTOOC with determined is the way to go for it.

[versed summit]

for now yeah, DTA(Damage to Armor) is the second best stat you can have there.

DTOOC(Damage to Targets Out of Cover) is overall better though

[ebon summit]

what about the Ignited?

[versed summit]

roll that off for another talent.

[ebon summit]

i am still really new so im not really sure what i am looking for

[solar berry]

White death with determined talent and chest talent head hunter is good 😌

[ebon summit]

not that i am going to use it right now becuase i am working on better stats for my striker build but

i feel like i am doing something wrong with my build but i am still trying, hope that counts for something

[versed summit]

generally weapons with dtooc already on them, or a good talent so you can put dtooc on them.

LMGs are an exception where instead of dtooc for the third attribute, because it's already their second attribute, you want Crit chance

[ebon summit]

i see

is there anychance someone can point me in the right direction for my current build?

[versed summit]

have you shown it?

[ebon summit]

not yet but i can now

[solar berry]

There is many ways to run striker. Depends on what you wanna do and chase after

[versed summit]

#td2-build-advice message

I'd recommend checking that out for a good baseline

[solar berry]

Ew GC. Use ceska/obliterate chest instead. Better survivability while dong great dmg when you do crits

[versed summit]

pretty solid so far though

[ebon summit]

sadly the mask is out of my control

[solar berry]

Do you have momento?

[ebon summit]

no

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔

Centurion?

[ebon summit]

i have bad mask options

i only have Vile and Catharsis

[solar berry]

Do you have a ceska chest with obliterate talent

[ebon summit]

doesnt look like it

i do like the sacrifice though

[solar berry]

Try to get that with crit chc and crit dmg attributes on it.

Do you have a ceska or groupo mask?

[ebon summit]

no but that is something i can work toward

[solar berry]

Coyotes mask/momento backpack is really good with striker when you get them.

Ceska chest with obilerate talent, crit dmg and crit chance attributes is better when paired.

When you run coyotes mask. Use striker backpack,
When you run memento backpack, use striker mask.

When you get it.

[ebon summit]

sorry Ceska is named or high end?

[solar berry]

High end

The named version is backpack. But don’t worry about it.

[ebon summit]

best way to focus the coyote mask?

[solar berry]

Glass cannon is great but obliterate is far better on striker. Since you will be focusing on 55+ crit change in your primary weapon. And rest is crit dmg for attributes.
Obliterate stacks when hitting crits.

Obliterate also don’t have a downfall.
Unlike glass cannon is amplify incoming dmg.
More survivability on your end even if you run all 6 reds for example. When running obilerate.

Glass cannon vs obliterate is a small% difference for overall dmg.
Only thing is that glass cannon is boost to your base dmg off rip, as obliterate stacks when hitting crits.

[ebon summit]

so should i be focusing on a diff weapon aswell?

[solar berry]

ARs, smg and LMG all works good on striker

Depends how you wanna play

If it’s decent to fast rof, your set for striker stacks

[ebon summit]

i guess decent size mag is important too

[solar berry]

World drop, preferably countdown or summit with targeted mask, or mission with target mask.

[ebon summit]

okay

i should be able to manage challanging right? probably cant go higher then that

[solar berry]

Yep. More you fire, more stacks you gain in one go. While at max stacks, you maintain max striker dmg.

Striker is all about killing things quickly, while maintaining stacks.

[solar berry]

Challenging is fairly easy compared to heroic and legendary.

[ebon summit]

yeah i get that, i guess i just needed to be pushed in the right direction for what i should be looking for and where to get them

[ebon summit]

just keep in mind, ive been playing for maybe a week lol

[solar berry]

With glass cannon rn you have. Just play it abit more safe rn, till you get the obliterate chest

[solar berry]

Your fine

[ebon summit]

do you mind if i add you? youve been a big help!

[solar berry]

Sure. I just logged off the game lol 😂

[dense vector]

For a DMG build with an ar and lmg do you guys suggest strikers or heartbreaker?

[safe iron]

Strikers personally

I can get over 2000 million damage (lol) on a mission

[dense vector]

Really? Cause I’ve been looking at the heartbreaker stuff and it looks like it can do real good also. I’m just seriously trying to up my damage output but n it sacrifice my survivability also

[onyx sage]

you can't have both, if you want the best damage go with striker

[safe iron]

Yea there's big trade offs you either have high damage or high survivability

[bright raptor]

they're closer than they used to be if you go all red with Heartbreaker, but you're also pushed towards weapons that can use the Technician pulse laser with it

Striker doesn't really care - and that's why I have setups for both

[dreamy valve]

All roads lead to Striker

[placid latch]

Even more so with Brooklyn saddly

[dreamy valve]

I’ve been using Ravenous again for Brooklyn content, particularly the later half of the Army Terminal. I forgot how good it is against heavies, besides robotics

[leaden ivy]

What is the best strongest build for solo pvp

[violet juniper]

it's supposed to do 100% damage to single targets.

[pale ember]

i know st elmos is really good with strike/momento.. but like, i cant get off the gr9/frenzy combo

[subtle bluff]

There is no overall best. Some of them depends on your playstyle.

[hollow canyon]

hey anybody got a great catalyst build ?

[tranquil cliff]

@patent fossil so and follow up question. Is the dmg significant enough OR would it not show significance until I’m SHD 1000

[minor grove]

@pearl atlas

[pearl atlas]

🫡

[minor grove]

🫡

[solar berry]

If you read description for turnmoil. It’s supposed to split the dmg 50/50 per weapon hit. unless there is no hostile near that enemy you’re hitting.

How is it supposed to be 100% for a single target enemy?

Turnmoil focuses on multiple targets to kill at once, not just one

What are you on about?

[violet juniper]

yeah I'm tired. What I meant to say is it does 100% damage if there's a single target. Like, nobody left

[solar berry]

Within 30m

If there isn’t any, 30m is a big radius

[solar sable]

if there's no one within a 30 meter radius then it doesn't split dmg

[violet juniper]

yeah that's what I'm trying to say but I'm really tired rn 😭

[solar berry]

I’m out getting a tattoo and a haircut. Had to grab pic from a vid. I have it on my character just not at home to do it atm

Sorry for it not being a clean pic

[violet juniper]

I need more tattoos. I get them for free but I just never have time to schedule an appointment

[violet juniper]

all good. As long as people can read the writing it's fine lmao

[solar berry]

My buddy does tats. So it’s cheaper than going to a place. He’s good asf to do it.

[solar berry]

Lines is about meh but readable lol

I just wish turnmoil synergy with more things like striker stacks for example or negotiation dilemma marks or sum lol

Atleast for PvE side of it.

[patent fossil]

Follow up question to what? The discussion about foxes? It entirely depends on the rest of the build.

[void coral]

Is a Future Initiative build going to make that much of a difference over a blue stack Ongoing Directive with Doctor Home?

[rich cosmos]

Yes and its not even close

Future initiative is the healer build

[void coral]

Damn. Farmed the wrong one then. Stupid gaming breaks 🙂 Thanks for the info

[cerulean smelt]

shd levels is just an added benefit, builds are what matters mostly

[rich cosmos]

Also ongoing is way more built around support not healing, ongoing doubles as both a good damage build and team damage

[main stream]

Have played in a couple of seasons, logged in with strikers, and want to know if there are any updates i should be making to it

[void coral]

Yeah I picked up a Dr Home, so the idea of Ongoing as a paladin (tank and healer) was enticing

[main stream]

and yes im aware of the spreadsheet, but its still for last season.

[solar sable]

The builds haven't changed at all.

[main stream]

Thats... disappointing tbh.

[solar sable]

It's not like we received gigantic buffs or nerfs, what do you expect?

[main stream]

I had figured we would.

So still Elmos/RocknRoll with strikers?

[dense lynx]

I been using Elmos with Striker, it absolutely shreds enemies

((I just got Elmos so im still new to the game on pc lol))

[solar sable]

I don't recommend using R&R all the time, you should run a backup weapon like an smg/lmg/strong shotgun instead. I only see r&r useful in raids, there are bosses that need all your build's dmg

[dense lynx]

I REALLY wanna find a team on PC to take me through a raid. Ive never done one in the division before

[storm walrus]

hi, just hit40 and want to try pestilence build if is possible t farm it and be effective ?

dont have pestilence yet , i think i will try summit to get one

[solar berry]

Can always use #lfg-raid-pc

[rancid gulch]

does anyone know how to get the 1886 rifle build to one shot normal enemies on heroic difficulty?

[cerulean smelt]

farm for it? target loot the pieces in countdown would be the fastest

[subtle bluff]

It's a really hard farm I'd farm other builds first before doing the pesti farm.

[feral anvil]

yea probably get a build you can farm with first, and then worry about farming for specific exotics. a baseline striker build is always recommended as it is viable for basically all forms of content, but you have many other options especially if you are playing solo

[surreal jackal]

Just hit lvl 40 and got the dlcs what should I do to grind for a build ?

[feral anvil]

if you dont want to do countdown with a specific brand/gear set targeted, you can do missions with your preferred targeted loot, or summit

countdown is recommended since you will be drowned in loot

[surreal jackal]

Where do I go to access countdown ?

And how do I set my preferred targeted loot?

[feral anvil]

i dont remember if you have access to it right out of the gate but it should be at the top right of the washington dc map. make sure you are doing countdown which is separate from the manhunt mission

[feral anvil]

you can only set your targeted loot for i believe summit and countdown, and you do that by hovering over the icon of either of them and pressing whatever the button is for it (on pc its H)

[white pollen]

open your map; read the HUD that tells you what each button does...

[rancid gulch]

nimble holster any good?

doesn’t seem great but idk

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[rancid gulch]

i did not know it healed that much

[rich cosmos]

Based on distance

You also heal any damage you take when running although enemies tend to not hit as much when you are

[snow tartan]

any advice?

I have lefty, and scorpio as a replacement if anyone was wondering

on second thought, lefty is a way better choice

[solar sable]

If you want to use Hunters Fury then ↓
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mWk2Jgg8uJX3hkturWAET95gizwVHReoOOayO-ixe6U/edit?usp=drivesdk

[snow tartan]

dual shotguns?

hm, ill try it out, thanks

[solar sable]

Not always, run one shotty and Backfire or any HE smg like smg-9 or vector w/measured

[snow tartan]

HE smg?

[solar sable]

High End

[snow tartan]

ohhh ok

[solar sable]

backfire in case you want an exotic weapon, not every build requires/needs exotics

[hasty sluice]

Doomz you dont happen to have the new Y7 dps spreadsheet on hand do you? :3

[strong cave]

Hey don't go shitting on Lady Death now. It's still viable... Just not as good as it used to be

[solar sable]

they haven't changed the title of the notes, but they're the same as a week ago lol

[strong cave]

Movement go brrrr. Damage? To be desired

[solar sable]

I forgor that thing existed

[strong cave]

😂😂 me too. I saw it in my inventory today and thought "huh this thing has HELLA dust. Lemme try it out again". Default HF with memento. 4 blues, 3 reds, seeing nearly Milly crits to the head. Lady still holds up 🔥

[hasty sluice]

ah found it. Reddit my beloved https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/12vzrBI53INNVcKx25ILuvwIgJDg2xUvOO_IA0uctlwE/htmlview#

I want to make a build with the quick fix backpack but idk yet.

ah ha funny revive build

[pastel basin]

Just make a future initiative build with the gloves as that one alps brand set

[hasty sluice]

I'm tired of FI 😭

[subtle bluff]

Birdiers on a "healer" seem kind of dumb it's basically saying you're not doing job well

[cosmic holly]

thoughts on this pvp build?

[hasty sluice]

I dont pvp offten but ik Ninja's aint it.

[cosmic holly]

Had to use it for the 3.5 to 4.5 armor regen

[solar berry]

NB gets most use for pvp than PvE

[arctic scaffold]

if ur doing headshot dmg maybe better to use picaros instead of ceska holster

and chillout mask too

[hasty sluice]

ah. good to know

[solar berry]

not always good. but brings out more builds overall. depending on what you use/want to make'

[cosmic holly]

I can get the holster but I don’t have chillout

[arctic scaffold]

gotcha ya so then picaros i think most deff or u can use catharsis mask with 3 peice gila and emporer kneegaurds

i think tho if ur goin for more armor regen maybe the ninja is better but if ur going for my dmg catharsis mask might be better instead

[arctic scaffold]

youd wear 3 peice gila backpack gloves holster with cathariss mask and emporer gaurd knees

this is what i use for my ninja one but i should prob use ur kneepads instead

oh and instead of picaro if u want a bit more hazard protection u can use yaahl brand set with ninja itll give u wep dmg and 10 hazard protection

[arctic scaffold]

so ya for urs id prob keep the kneepads use picaros or yahhl

on holster

[cosmic holly]

Probably use picaros for the skill tier

[arctic scaffold]

ya espc if ur using like sticky fire or stinger and defender drone

[cosmic holly]

True

[snow tartan]

thank you all for the build advice

[cosmic holly]

thoughts on my everyday carry.. PvE

[arctic scaffold]

cant get any better tha nthat

[hasty sluice]

@peak meadow being the revive seal, you have any good builds for the quick fix?

[subtle bluff]

He's using a Skill "tank" build to be simple

[arctic scaffold]

that ones good too i think tho more for Grp play

[karmic osprey]

im usually always in a group

[arctic scaffold]

ya i have no friends sadly

lol

[hasty sluice]

momento striker is perhaps the best you can get in solo play. Cyote is deff better for groups.

[karmic osprey]

more then welcome to add me

[solar berry]

rather have ceska chest instead

[hasty sluice]

Id rather have Steelworks.

[arctic scaffold]

doesnt really need ceska well actually depends if he likes to shoot from far or close

[strong cave]

Ditch Grupo, ceska chest instead. Why? Grupo you're CHC starved, forcing you to take 2 CHC mods instead of 1 CHC mod. You'll do less damage that way. Ceska always

[hazy steeple]

Ceska is good on Strikers, as it allows you to put more attribute slots into other stats, even if you're going the Coyotes route.

[strong cave]

Ceska gives basically a free CHC attribute, thus allowing you 2 CHD mods and 1 CHC mod to meet the required +50% CHC requirements on good DPS builds

[subtle bluff]

uh?

[arctic scaffold]

ah ok and true its better to use coyote in close range because it gives mor CDMG than grupo anyway

so ya it is better to use ceska

[strong cave]

Grupo isn't needed bc coyote already buffs you at close range by 25% chd

[arctic scaffold]

ya

[strong cave]

Most engagements are the mid to close buffs on coyotes

[hazy steeple]

@arctic scaffold CHD is best used as the term from crit damage, and CHC for crit chance.

[hasty sluice]

does cc/cd also work if you are talking about crit?

[strong cave]

Situationally, yes, I can see that working. However, still stands, most engagements are mid to close range. You won't always have distance

[hazy steeple]

@hasty sluice crowd control and countdown?

[strong cave]

No. Crowd Control. CD is countdown

[hasty sluice]

💀

[arctic scaffold]

gotcha ya i was mistaken i forgot the talents and how much they gave on coyote

[hazy steeple]

critical hit chance and critical hit damage, if you needed a reason why those initialisms specifically.

[strong cave]

CC - crowd control
CHC - crit hit chance

Critical Hit Chance is literally in the name. You can say crit chance if you want. But the community goes by CHC and crowd control for cc

[hazy steeple]

I think we can all agree though, that cdmg is far worse.

[strong cave]

You'll pick up the lingo the more you interact here

[arctic scaffold]

HEY

dont make fun of my CDMG initials

[hasty sluice]

warframe has caused me to say cc/cd for crit related things lol.

[arctic scaffold]

its my fav u mean person

[hazy steeple]

I still mistake OD and OD.

orokin derelict and ongoing directive.

[arctic scaffold]

i play alot of WoW aswell prob why i said that too

[hasty sluice]

lamo

[arctic scaffold]

lol

[solar berry]

i just say chc for crit chance, chd for crit dmg

[strong cave]

You've lost me at the start, but the second half I recognize

[hazy steeple]

It's an old WF thing, dw about it.

[strong cave]

😂

[arctic scaffold]

but as for the momento striker i like to run atleast 3 blue cores and 3 red for more surviv espc agasint those dmg control points shooting rocket launchers lol

[hasty sluice]

Turns out he funny revive seal posted this not too long ago.

[arctic scaffold]

but only for this new modifiers

[hazy steeple]

Give them a momento, they'll spell it right.

[strong cave]

Viable

[hasty sluice]

bless discord search with image

[strong cave]

Wtf build is this

[hasty sluice]

Decoyspell's quick fix setup

[strong cave]

I know the pieces but like... Why.

[hasty sluice]

revive go brrrrr

[solar berry]

That takes me back to when someone posted the meme build with NB

[strong cave]

If your team is dying, get good or get a better healer. No excuses as for going down

[strong cave]

Still got that 5.11 build I'm cooking up. Heavily putting it off. I have the pieces for it tho

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔 what kind of build

[hasty sluice]

why heal them when you can just rez them

[arctic scaffold]

i miss the old modifiers.... running at like 30 percent more was so fun

[strong cave]

DZ build

[solar berry]

Clutch?

[strong cave]

Cursed asf

Nah, Vigi crit with full hazpro

[hasty sluice]

im just highly confused on the launcher...

[solar berry]

That ain’t nothing.

That isn’t cursed tbh

[strong cave]

I need to find the template. It's SOMEWHERE

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔 sureee

Let me see if it’s cursed 👀

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwWgTCDMKhAsA2EAGFbUfegXBCS9xRMSsTdwQDLIAOMh05bYATkuqcce3fxm5cm2aNE6CJzMAnYBWGMHltobODFbyhLemuBJ6YVJCQB2JMODSQ82SetoEarSZFqE8k6Bk9g9SKEh5SHYmIA

Found it quick honestly. I have a similar build but no hazpro. Just 3 PC Golan, 1 uzina, tardigrade, 1 piece Gila. Ad rush, talent or Vigi swappable. 2.4m armor with defender and booster

[hasty sluice]

explain the vigi

[solar berry]

Ngl, I don’t see it as “cursed” … new but not cursed

[strong cave]

Pvp. Gives more damage on unsuspecting players

I swear by Vigi in pvp and unstoppable force for PvE

[solar berry]

Free dmg when not hurt/shot at

[strong cave]

Considering I'm running 5.11, I'll literally need Vigi 💀😂

[hasty sluice]

when unstoppable works it works

[solar berry]

Unstop best in lower end content

[strong cave]

You'll kiss the ground before you even get 5 agent kills in dz with unstoppable force

[hasty sluice]

I kiss the ground in pvp before I even see the person.

[strong cave]

I prefer it in PvE bc you're almost always gonna get shot. Especially when numerous target you at once and you make an attempted peek

[strong cave]

Bad awareness of cheats. Usually the first. Div 2 pvp is fairly hardcore toxic

[young wadi]

whats a good pve build for a casual returning player to go for?

[solar berry]

Yes lower end content. PvP is not low end content 🤣

[hasty sluice]

Nah I just have issues with target awareness.

[strong cave]

Coyote mask, ceska chest with crits + oblit, 4 piece striker

[hasty sluice]

I have a reason why I dont play mill sim games

[strong cave]

Everything critical Hit dmg

[karmic osprey]

i do a mix of both far and close

[solar berry]

Low end like maybe challenging diff and lower in PvE

Heroic and higher. I don’t use unstop

[young wadi]

appreciate it. ill keep that in mind. thank you.

[strong cave]

On heroic in some engagements I noticed the damage is a bit rough. I try to target reds first then move to the yellows. Purples run away bc they can smell my dominant OD energy in the room leaving a bloodbath in my wake

[solar berry]

Ngl, striker with unstop do go hard

Gunner spec makes it better

[strong cave]

Better than the backpack almost (keyword: almost)

[solar berry]

It have it potential

[strong cave]

I run mine on OD. Hate getting shot once and I question why I go from 1.4m crits to only 900k

[solar berry]

Try obliterate chest with unstop bp, striker. Lil funny 😁

[strong cave]

Unstoppable for me I swear it 😂

[hasty sluice]

i love descent. I forgot i had this

[strong cave]

Meanwhile I ended up getting backup boomstick for a blueprint:

[hasty sluice]

what do we think the blues are? Haz pro and....?

[strong cave]

DZ boutta hate my shield pop shotgun overlord build

[strong cave]

Regen. That's emp guard knees

[solar berry]

I get everything else but guard kneepads 😔

[strong cave]

Remind me again why striker holster can't be crafted?

[hasty sluice]

overlord in pvp sounds dirty.

[solar berry]

I just want my extra 5k arm regen 😒

[solar berry]

Idk 🤷‍♂️

[hasty sluice]

jack pot

[solar berry]

Some gearsets is missing for crafting… some pieces from them

[strong cave]

Because it is. I have an anti-movement build built entirely around overlord, status effects, foam and hella armor without losing ANY skill tiers

[hasty sluice]

would love to see it. I have afriend that would love it.

[strong cave]

It's fully hazpro too

BROKEN asf

[solar berry]

Why not sacrum

[hasty sluice]

he doesnt pvp much but he does love inflicting physic damage to people.

[onyx sage]

they actually nerfed sacrum, it lives in my stash forever now

you can't light teammates on fire anymore 💀

[solar berry]

20% movement debuff in PvP tho

[strong cave]

#td2-pvp-discussions message

[strong cave]

#td2-pvp-discussions message

It's not meant to do damage. Just be annoying asf. So yes, psychic damage is perfect

You can be a bigger scumbag and use blinder firefly. The duration is insane. Shock is even funnier

[solar berry]

Don’t be a low tier noob and use foam cuz you can’t hit your shots on the agent

[strong cave]

I run it with a shield and riot foam for right hand peeking. Like regulus users do. Except mine glues you for like 8 whole seconds

Nearly 20s in PvE

[strong cave]

See, this is only for gluing people and shooting them with overlord. It's a bighorn counter I came up with

[solar berry]

I get that. But it’s so low tier thought and scummy

People only use it cuz they can’t shots off of the target end of the day

Track the player and hit your shots. Is it that hard?

[strong cave]

Very very scummy. People HATE this build when I run it. Issue is dz and conflict is plagued with movement "demons". Bighorn or some sorta Regen builds or those who go crackhead when getting shot once. Fine then, look like an idiot when I shoot you with overlord

[hasty sluice]

counter point.

Funny

[strong cave]

I dislike foam as well. So when foam comes out, THIS build comes out. Typically ends that argument real quick

[solar berry]

Not funny when they spam you with it

[strong cave]

It's also my build I use when rogue police

[hasty sluice]

counter counter point

hazpro

[strong cave]

Trust me, people hate it, and the fact they hate it makes me laugh even harder

Full hazpro with as max as you can get status and skill tiers is just way too funny. I can't even be disrupted

[solar berry]

^

[hasty sluice]

people hate anything that kills them. I got hate for using the fire roller cause they just kinda sat there and camped.

[strong cave]

The pistol talent increases the status duration too. Which just like regulus, you can ALSO peek with the shield and pistol

Ez headshot increases status effects by 50% (I think?). Making the build even scummier

[hollow fern]

Guys, what's a simple-to-drive, tanky build that would still go for ranged damage rather than cqb?

[strong cave]

I typically tell people just run hazpro or a booster hive 🤷‍♀️ it's the only counter to my build. They never listen

[hollow fern]

Not sniper tho.

[strong cave]

Heartbreaker with some reds and blues. Are you solo or a group?

[hollow fern]

Solo and mostry in it for the story xD

[hasty sluice]

heartbreaker but you use an lmg

[strong cave]

You could go striker as well and just run memento and collect stacks

[solar berry]

Striker op rn due to assault ult

[strong cave]

Poor advice. LMG's are usually crit starved and can't use a shield. AR's are best all around

[solar berry]

Be tank and out dps everyone

[strong cave]

Plus King breaker

[hasty sluice]

they said mostly ranged. so behind cover mostly.

[strong cave]

I had a moron today tell me his 5 blues 1 red HB build will out DPS my unbreakable 2 blues 4 reds striker. He got mad when he checked the results at the end of the match. The whole group laughed at him

We all said the same thing, I'll have the most dps 🤷‍♀️

[onyx sage]

"can't dps when i'm dead" mentality

[solar berry]

Bruh. 2 billion dmg

[strong cave]

Dude even said he was struggling at the beginning. Whole group said it's his build. Proceeded to fight us the whole match. Talked alot of smack to me too. Bro basically was delulu

[solar berry]

I broke my record last night

On striker tank

[hollow fern]

before brooklyn I actually did the strikers, and I was comfortably farming on Hard, some on Challegning. In Brooklyn I'm getting my aass handed to me on a silver plater on Story...

[karmic osprey]

did the entire dlc with strikers on heroic

[hollow fern]

skill issue, I guess 😅

[onyx sage]

they put spawns all around you a lot more in brooklyn missions

[strong cave]

Now run glass cannon all red cores with backfire. Roll everything to hazpro, take 2 ceska pieces. Ofc the second star on those ceska pieces will be CHD due to backfire giving 15% CHC on the mods. Then take one 10% bleed mod and 2 CHD mods

[hasty sluice]

putting blue on strikers isnt the worst idea. it can help a decent bit. since strikers itself helps fill the missing damage.

[strong cave]

If you need hazpro anywhere else run resistant mods

[solar berry]

I forgot to grab my ceska chest from stash. Work with what you got on the spot

[strong cave]

I crafted my hazpro striker backfire build except the ceska chest. I had that in stash with crits and glass. I rolled on hazpro 😂

[hasty sluice]

I run Steel works for the extra armor on kill

[solar berry]

Ngl, grupo is fire on it due to it being smg

[strong cave]

Sokolov would boost damage more

SMGs got insane crits anyways. May as well boost the SMG damage

[solar berry]

Idk how much it would be an increase tho. 10% over 13%

[strong cave]

Mostly I'd say to boost the base damage of the SMG to ensure a slight oomph in damage as you build stacks

I noticed building those stacks is a painful process still. Not bleeding painful but LONG

[solar berry]

With backfire? Stacks is fairly easy

[strong cave]

Easy to get but the room dies quickly due to backfire being OP

[solar berry]

On low end ye

[hasty sluice]

would catalsty be good on backfire? due to the self bleed?

[solar berry]

Higher end no

[strong cave]

Catalyst doesn't even work rn

[hasty sluice]

peak game

[strong cave]

Welcome to Ubisoft titles

[solar berry]

Can yes

[solar berry]

The first part don’t, dmg and status effects.

2nd part works like normal

[strong cave]

Catalyst not working is a hidden talent. You probably missed that in the talent description lol. Ye the second part works tho

[hasty sluice]

obviously the correct build is to throw a fire nade at your feet and use ourob with catalyst.

[strong cave]

(I'm making a joke, it's currently bugged. Only gives 2% boost, not the full 24%. Doesn't matter the stacks you have it'll only give 2%)

[strong cave]

Or just use an EMP pulse. Wide area

[solar berry]

The bonus arm works tho

[strong cave]

Why injure yourself? That's counter productive. Go with a tank build at that rate

[solar berry]

Back fire would be good with catalyst if the dps wasn’t bugged

[strong cave]

You grew a bonus arm? DAMN

[hasty sluice]

use pluse drone. flashbang yourself. Profit????

[solar berry]

Arm as armor. Not an actual arm

Smh

[strong cave]

😂😂😂😂 was boutta say, my boi out here growing Bonus Arms like Chia pets 😂😂😂😂

Lend me a hand in that 🤣

[solar berry]

Bro have to be thinking wild shi in the background to say that 👀

[strong cave]

My mind NEVER stops thinking is the problem lmao

[strong cave]

Gunner's Banshee pulse would be more effective than that

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔 backfire OD build with catalyst mask

I wonder how that would be like

You either nonstop apply bleed to yourself and hostiles 👀

[strong cave]

Ceska mask with chd, hazpro
Ceska bag with any DMG talent, CHD, hazpro
OD pieces with Hazpro

Skill 1 - foam
Skill 2 - reviver
Specialist: survivalist or gunner

1 bleed resistant mod will make you bleed immune. Chd mods everywhere else if you want

Or take other resist mods

That CHD and the amp damage from the chest OMG I gotta make that build

[solar berry]

I know how to make a OD build. I’m just asking how it would work with the idea 😒

[strong cave]

Honestly, try it. Backfire is broken ASF. Amp damage might go even crazier. I'm definitely making this

[solar berry]

Gawd I can’t wait till the mask get fixed

Dps finna go hams

[strong cave]

Cool part is I can swap my OD attributes on my existing OD builds. I'll report back the viability

I can't wait till tinkerer. Pressure point + sadist boutta go dummy hard

[solar berry]

Naw, sadist and streamline

Hella amounts of dps on OD

[strong cave]

With the chest piece, yeah, it might be it 👀 cannot wait

[solar berry]

Streamline is out dps sadist even on carnage rn

By I think 12-17% more or sum like that

But both together 👀

[strong cave]

12-17% is nothing to sneeze at. Nearly 1 whole damage core more. Paired together, DAMN, okay I see you

Now if you said 4% more, I'd shrug and say eh, that's just power creeping and splitting hairs

[solar berry]

I wanted to try it in pts. But streamline bugged to work properly. So no go for testing

[strong cave]

wack

[solar berry]

Streamline was not working with the mask in pts

So yea…

Sniper builds finna go insane with streamline determined

[strong cave]

With how the talent is, it wouldn't surprise me if it does end up doing stupid amounts of damage

[solar berry]

Streamline meta inbound

I’m calling it now.

[strong cave]

Me who constantly uses the drone 😭

[solar berry]

Streamline on striker is wild asf. Imagine with killer 👀

[strong cave]

YEESH I can 👀

[solar berry]

After a kill. Crits go off the charts for dmg

70% is a lot

[strong cave]

So will the room 😂 whole room boutta be cleared before you're even half stacked

[onyx sage]

nah not even close

if you have 0 red cores maybe

the 30% amp from sadist is closer to pre-nerf streamline lol

[strong cave]

Will have to see how it plays. I'm on board with this idea

[solar berry]

Streamline increases weapon dmg by 42% non named

[onyx sage]

and sadist is 30% amp

[strong cave]

Can't we just math this out?

[onyx sage]

streamline is the equivalent of 12-16% amp

like literally take your weapon damage and add them up, if you have 0 weapon damage brands and 0 expertise it's 2.3, 2.72 / 2.3 = 1.18261 or 18% amp equivalent

if you have expertise or weapon damage brands it gets worse

so no it does not beat sadist, not even close

[strong cave]

How the hell does taking more WD result in worse damage 😭

[onyx sage]

because its increase is worse

imagine you have 30 expertise, then it becomes 3.02 / 2.6

you see how it gets worse right

[strong cave]

I get the math but sensibly you'd think it would be backwards 😭😭

[onyx sage]

i mean it's obvious because you're oversaturating weapon damage

[strong cave]

Kinda like diminishing returns with crits

[onyx sage]

yeah it's the same thing

[strong cave]

The quirks of division- gotta love it

[onyx sage]

now let's take pre-nerf streamline 82%

[strong cave]

Honestly tho it may not match sadist but I can definitely still see it being viable in some ways with tinkerer

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔

[onyx sage]

it does beat sadist even at 30 expertise lol. this is why people are calling it to be nerfed

honestly it's probably the top talent in headhunter builds for now

just because headhunter favors weapon damage over most amps

[strong cave]

Determined and streamlined with headhunter would be wicked. But wait, what about flatline???

[onyx sage]

it'll be worse, flatline doesn't amp the hh bonus

[strong cave]

Ah yeah that's true hh works on damage not amp

Optimist maybe?

[onyx sage]

most amps do not work with it yeah

[strong cave]

Low but still SOMETHING

[solar berry]

Is unhinged amp or add?

[magic pilot]

WD

[strong cave]

I think additive

[solar berry]

Mmm 🤔

[magic pilot]

Same as a red core

[solar berry]

C&P

[onyx sage]

also wd

[solar berry]

I wonder how PS would be like with sadist

Welp. Atleast we can do sadist and perpetuation on OD build with new mask 👀

Abridged

[strong cave]

Tinkerer wouldn't allow that. I wonder if tinkerer forces 2 diff talents as well to prevent double stacking (they learned their mistakes with double companion)

[solar berry]

PS is precision strike

It’s a talent from last season

[strong cave]

YO that's the far range talent yeah?

[solar berry]

Ye

20m one that amps

[strong cave]

The drill hit pretty hard last season. I stashed it

[magic pilot]

Ranger is WD

[strong cave]

Killer Lexington was too hard to pass up

[strong cave]

Ranger determined would likely be another competitor

[solar berry]

Imagine strained and killer on striker 👀

[strong cave]

Streamlined def I see meta for sure. Rip my drone tho

[strong cave]

I WAS BOUTTA SAY THAT

[magic pilot]

Killer/measured

[strong cave]

I wonder how fast hands + killer would do

Omg... 😳😳

[magic pilot]

Measured gives TWD

[solar berry]

Fast hands and measured/strained for PvP metah

[strong cave]

With ninjabike

*somehow"

[solar berry]

NB won’t work. Abridged mask is exotic

[onyx sage]

it's amp no?

[magic pilot]

For bosses, tinker mask and ceska gloves. For open world I would run tinker glass ceska chest.

[strong cave]

These people will find a way. They always do. Ninjabike is a must in all division 2 build videos 😂

"you see this mask? Forget it. Lemme show you what ninjabike can do"

[solar berry]

I can see unhinged being meta for PvP with abridged mask for LMGs

[onyx sage]

they're gonna cry in reddit about not being able to use both ninjabike and tinkerer and saying build diversity is dead, watch this space

[magic pilot]

Oh it is an amp!

Ranger is crazy

[strong cave]

I can definitely see that

[onyx sage]

i used ranger on lexington, now it's in stash atm

[magic pilot]

Lmg?

[strong cave]

Poor lexington. Got replaced by caretaker

[magic pilot]

No way?

[onyx sage]

no not even that

[strong cave]

😂😂

[solar berry]

Naw. Fast hands and optimist is def PvP meta

[onyx sage]

i'm just using a famas measured

[strong cave]

Famas beloved

[strong cave]

Yay another fast hands nerf

[solar berry]

🤣

I can see spike and in sync for skill builds

[onyx sage]

rip locked to technician

[strong cave]

Mortars... Yay....

They'll hit EVEN harder

New gearset goes dummy hard in pvp

[solar berry]

Outsider and ranger 👀

Overflowing and measured

[strong cave]

That's gotta be busted 😂

[solar berry]

Get that double mag before PvP fight

[strong cave]

If only we could pair exotic talents together. I'd be the scumbag pairing chatterbox and pesti together

On umbra....

😭😭

[solar berry]

EB and pesti

[strong cave]

SHUSH STOP TAKING

😭😭😭 broken broken

[strong cave]

On umbra

[solar berry]

Eb my go to exo

[solar berry]

Umbra… mmm 🤔 imma cook

Chatter and BK

[strong cave]

Measured on umbra with fast hands would go stupid hard

Umbra already gives reload speed I think

[solar berry]

30% ye

Killer fast hands umbra 👀

Or fast hands strained

[strong cave]

I'd argue killer. Your mag will be up before you even get full strained proc

[solar berry]

Tru tru

HF build, c&p with killer

[onyx sage]

nah having to use HF backpack or chest is a nerf

[solar berry]

HF BP is better than the chest

5 -> 10m

[onyx sage]

still means you lose out on vigilance

[solar berry]

It’s CQB

You finna get hurt anyways

[onyx sage]

skill issue but you know

[strong cave]

Memento says otherwise 🤠🤙

(skill issue)

[solar berry]

What about ND 👀

[onyx sage]

ND works

[solar berry]

Killer and preservation mmm 🤔

Crit dmg while arm regen on kills

Mmm 🤔 could be good on striker to

[strong cave]

I'm probably gonna use Killer + Preservation myself. Basically free AoK with damage

It'll go nasty on my sys Corr build

[solar berry]

Ngl, that insync with spike sounds good on refractor rn 👀

Gawd that mask is finna carry div2 solo right next to memento

[strong cave]

I dare say it'll fully replace coyote and memento

I wonder how future perfect and killer would go. Give the squishy build more shield tiers by killing

[pastel basin]

Not really, if you mostly go into random legendaries you usually getting stupid teamates that all spread out and try to face tank a mini gunner through your healing, I don’t use that bookbag since I usually run them with my friends but every once in awhile I do it with randoms and that backpack just basically makes it to where at least one person is basically immortal.

[solar berry]

Especially with this season modifiers

[pastel basin]

Idk about pc lobbies but in console legendaries, or raids, groups are rather the best team in the world where everyone actually stays within my Range and runs pure reds or yellows so everything dies quickly, or they’re fully garbage and run 4 blues running out in the open like it’s a heroic, there’s no in between 😭

[solar berry]

We get low tier agents like that on pc. Prob not as much like you experienced on console

[onyx sage]

we have those everywhere

consoles probably more yeah because it's more accessible

[subtle bluff]

Ok let me rephase it.. If you're on FI your job more or is support by healing and debuff/buffing.
If it's team issue well then do what you have to. IMO support tanks should be the ones on birdiers.

[thorny lichen]

anybody willing to help im new/returning player trying to max out my strikers build

i was wondering if somebody can help me with that im on pc

[hazy steeple]

@thorny lichen If you check the 📌 pinned-message in thie channel, there's a link to a "spreadsheet 2", within that there's a bunch of meta builds, including a full Strikers guide.
We're happy to answer any questions you may have about it. Welcome, Agent

[thorny lichen]

okay thanks ill check it out @hazy steeple

[void coral]

I know the answer, but I'm gonna ask anyway. Is there a better way to farm Scorpio than countdown with shotgun targetted loot?

[hasty sluice]

1st #ask-td2-community
2nd No, since running CD you also get points to buy exotic caches.

You can run summit but its not "better"

[void coral]

Ah sorry wrong thread. My bad and thank you

[scenic palm]

What would you guys say is better for Hunter's fury, bloodsucker or adrenaline rush? Want to have a bit of survivability.

[kind crest]

i would say bloodsucker but u do need kills before it takes any effect ofc, kinda depends on ur playstyle with what would be better

and it also kinda depends on how many blue cores ur using 🙂 if its all red i would recommend bloodsucker

[scenic palm]

Sounds good, but now I'm seeing clutch as well, is that worth it at all?

[thorny kernel]

When i have a chest with Unbreakable and the Exodus gloves equipped at the same time, does one of them get prioritized or do they pop at the same time?

[buoyant perch]

Neither. Use memento backpack.

[subtle bluff]

Don't use both

[violet juniper]

Absolutely Adrenaline rush

[violet juniper]

They pop at the same time. Do yourself a favor and don't use unbreakable

[slender cloak]

just returned after years, my old hunter's fury, scorpion, memento loadout still seems to slap. has there been any updated tech? any shotguns do the job better? what's the common second skill? i think i used to swap between drone and revive hive

[subtle bluff]

The talent Brazen for shotgun gun is nuts. Skills it's kind of to your playstyle for HF it's was Striker Shield.

[slender cloak]

oh awesome, i'll check it out. and sorry i meant other than shield what do people use. i think i mainly used drone with in-sync etc.

[shy willow]

Revive hive, decoy, sticky emp

[slender cloak]

would i aim for that one a m870? looking at the spreadsheet they look the most balanced?

[lavish gate]

I got 2 exotic caches last night and both had scorpios. I don’t even use shotguns 😢

[inner rock]

anyone tried streamline on pump shotguns? any worth?

[subtle bluff]

brazen is better

[thorny kernel]

Okay if i wanna make a Foundry Bulwark build with chest and backpack from Imminence Armaments, what talents should i go for?

[glacial nacelle]

whats the difference between striker and crusader shields

ngl cant find striker shield in skills

[onyx sage]

it's the last one, locked behind firewall spec

[honest moss]

If it is for tanking then tbh the foundry talents are nice, would consider the chest at least maybe. Artificer hive will also help since it heals for a % of your shields health. Can be upped with repair skills if needed. I don't think there is much for shield builds specifically outside of vanguard, protector (chest) but maybe on bag you could run adrenaline rush for a little bit of bonus armour or vigi for more damage

[onyx sage]

it's a little bit tankier than crusader and it amps your weapon damage to anything in the cone

[honest moss]

Lets you use the flamethrower too

[glacial nacelle]

that tells me nothing but i guess im gonna find out about it sooner or later

gonna unlock crusader now

[onyx sage]

you at level 40 yet?

[glacial nacelle]

bro i started yesterday

[onyx sage]

okay none of this was known so

should've started with that

[honest moss]

Yeah just use crusader, you need to be 30 iirc for specializations.

Even then you will need to unlock firewall and its shield varient

[thorny kernel]

I think you just have to clear the capitol but i might be wrong

[onyx sage]

you need to be at lv30 to clear capitol in story iirc

[thorny kernel]

Okay fair enough lol

[honest moss]

Either way it is way later on xD

[warm socket]

Any good builds for the iron lung pve? And pvp?

[patent fossil]

pve-wise, it'll work well with any standard crit build (striker, nego, high end etc) and reasonably well with OD

[warm socket]

Od?

[peak tendon]

Any good builds for st elmo assault rifle ?

[patent fossil]

Ongoing Directive. Iron lung is an easy way to get the status effect procs to start the OD chain going, but will give you lower damage than a weapon with the Carnage talent

[warm socket]

Ah okay, thanks man!

[patent fossil]

pve-wise, it'll work well with any standard crit build (striker, nego, high end etc)

[warm socket]

What about pvp

[violet juniper]

Have the devs announced any fix for Manny not shutting the f up about Schaeffer?

If you open the manhunt menu it literally loops forever

[patent fossil]

PVP is something I avoid so i'll leave it to others to answer that.

[viral remnant]

What a good build for smart cover

My only thought is just a FI healer build but with fortified smart cover

[spiral urchin]

if youre gonna use smart cover, use measured assembly

its overcharge benefit also procs when an ally is on smart cover

[viral remnant]

Huh interesting

[spiral urchin]

iirc, don't quote me on that

[spice pier]

yes it is

[river dawn]

is Anarchists cookbook good fit with OD Catalyst Bluescreen?

[shy willow]

it does

both smart cover and hive

[spice pier]

also i like how measured backpack just blocks all suicide drones automatically

[spiral urchin]

deadass?

i didn't know that

[shy willow]

its a perk of the set

[spiral urchin]

i thought it only blocked nades and mortars

[shy willow]

bag takes cooldown from 10 secs to 1

[shy willow]

unfortunately not grenades, it's very very picky with what mortars it defuses too

[spice pier]

morter has higher cooldown so not very effective, nades passes through, but that 1sec drone killing is lovely

[viral remnant]

You gotta a build for it can't say I've used the new gear set

[spiral urchin]

gimme a sec

[spiral urchin]

I'm not using smart cover cos i don't have the dlc yet

[viral remnant]

Okay interesting

[viral remnant]

Understandable

[spiral urchin]

I made this build to use in raids or the incursion

Specially for the lovebirds

Cos ngl, those mortars were A PAIN to deal with

[spice pier]

using same but with clock kneepad, with it i think i can run around openly a bit more as healer so helpful

[viral remnant]

I'll give be it ago, thank you!

[spiral urchin]

clock kneepads?

im guessing those are exotic, but ive never seen them

what's the talent?

[violet juniper]

He means Cloak kneepads.

they're from the new brand set, they have a special talent of 50% reduced threat

basically, enemies will ignore you more in coop

[spiral urchin]

i see

[untold fulcrum]

Have they added the wave defence mode from Division 1?

[patent fossil]

nope

[violet juniper]

Pier defence? Nah

[untold fulcrum]

Just logged back in for the first time in ages. Im running 4 heartbreaker, chainkiller and Coyote mask with Eaglebearer. Is this a decent build? Or has alot of stuff been added?

[shy willow]

Heartbreaker and chainkiller is a no no

[vestal ibex]

Chainkiller is not good for that build.

[shy willow]

I'd slot in HB chest and replace with ceska or something

[fair ridge]

I would say not really. you're not focusing on status duration or strength generally with this build

but I finally got catalyst today and even bugged it's still great with od bluescreen

[vestal ibex]

https://trello.com/c/oQ1ad3hT Mask flat out doesn't work. How is it still great?

[fair ridge]

there are other aspects that do work

[fathom brook]

Hi all new to the game and tryna find builds that interest me, I've been eyeing heartbreaker chameleon and the interaction with exodus gloves seems pretty cool and others seem to not have too many bad things to say about it in the past. Any vets have thoughts on this?

[untold fulcrum]

Whats a good build for AR or SMG or Shotgun now then?

[charred timber]

Caretaker AR with Perfect Killer, lovely!

[peak meadow]

Chameleon has accuracy issues that makes it awkward to use with HB

[fathom brook]

Yeah I've seen the accuracy issue for chameleon brought up a lot, I don't have it yet so I can't say for myself

[peak meadow]

It's basically an SMG

[fathom brook]

It can't be that bad though right? I mean, when trying to get inspiration for a build the combo is brought up in pretty much every video

[onyx sage]

the videos are the problem. they're after views lol

[fathom brook]

I mean tbf theyre showing themselves clearing at least heroic content with it

[peak meadow]

All the meta builds are done to death so all that's left are suboptimal meme builds

I don't know who out there is popularizing mag size St. Elmo's

But I have seen three people run it in recent memory

[fathom brook]

That does sound odd

[short verge]

i wish i had a megaphone to spout this out everywhere. i hate it, but its truth

[onyx sage]

heroic is super super easy if you know what you're doing that you can use a subpar build to clear it

[peak meadow]

Like this dude is posting about Catalyst being broken without knowing it's bugged and doesn't work

[onyx sage]

just understand that most divtubers don't have your interest at heart, they're after views more than giving you accurate information, quantity over quality

[fair dragon]

I also don't have your interest at heart. I post videos because I want to.

[onyx sage]

sir we both post challenge runs

[peak meadow]

Dude is using the pre nerf streamline tool tip

[covert meadow]

Good morning, with the lud and caretaker, what build would be the best fit for them in yall opinion?

[hazy steeple]

Let's remember rule #12, folks. Doesn't matter if they're a youtuber or not.

There's a reason we talk about them non-specifically.

[hearty owl]

In the current sandbox literally any build can do this

[wild ridge]

^

Heroic is kind of a joke in terms of difficulty.

You could cobble together really any build and clear it

[urban latch]

heroic viable builds

[hazy steeple]

Just before any newer player sees this and gets put off: being able to use "just anything" is down to practice, knowledge, and gear, you can't do it from day 1.

[fair dragon]

Until they ask for a AFK drone turret build

[gaunt valve]

That’s a joke and somewhat insulting my dude lol

[onyx sage]

i mean it is true when you compare it to the higher difficulties

[magic pilot]

Not really

He's being quite literal

[gaunt valve]

Haha I’m just bad then that’s what you’re saying

[wild ridge]

This. I feel like story-> hard-> challenging -> heroic is an incremental increase. Once you hit legendary, and from what I've heard, master, it's significantly more difficult

[peak meadow]

👀

[onyx sage]

i mean if you choose to take offense to it

it's never permanent

[magic pilot]

Even master was a joke last season

[wild ridge]

For example, soloing heroic Lincoln memorial is something that most players used to do all the time. But not a ton of people take the time to clear a solo legendary

[gaunt valve]

I like heroic with friends but as a solo I’m stuck in challenging

[wild ridge]

I can neither confirm or deny that as I did not play it

[peak meadow]

My first time playing Legendary, I was wondering who would design a mode that features drones so heavily

Six years later, I don't think there's enough drones

More drones, Massive

[magic pilot]

There's only too many drones when you don't do enough dps

Tbh I think they should use the marauders more

[peak meadow]

I was using a shield and liberty, you tell me if I had the damage

[magic pilot]

Big brain

[peak meadow]

Fun fact, I didn't discover explosive resistance until two years ago

[wild ridge]

Well, it could be several things. Main three things I'd recommend players focus on for getting better at this game are build, positioning, and aim/combat tech

In that order

[magic pilot]

Just comes with practice, learning positioning. Learning npc movements and spawns etc

[wild ridge]

Yes yes yes.

[fair dragon]

Oh my it's Nemesis

[wild ridge]

For example, and I have preached this for a long time, when you become familiar with npc spawns, you know what to prepare for. Learning movement patterns allows for easier tracking and prediction of where the enemy is to land shots easier

[wild ridge]

In the flesh haha

Hope you're doing well porphy

[fair dragon]

Thanks, hope you are doing well too

[burnt elbow]

hi im new, is there a best skill loadout for the campaign i can use im level 10

[wild ridge]

Reviver hive and like scanner pulse but I'd recommend boosting to 40

Or 30 or whatever

[burnt elbow]

dont do campaign ?

[wild ridge]

Nah it just delays you getting to endgame grind

[burnt elbow]

will i be losing anything like gear or special mods if i do that, what about those red areas that are higher level

[urban latch]

through the campaign you can really use whatever you want. a crusader shield will make things much easier and faster. Putting on your highest level armor pieces with blue cores, or yellow if you dont have blues will make things easier. If you really want to focus damaging skills then get 6 yellow cores and drone/turret or whatever you want to run

[patent fossil]

if you like story, play the story. Endgame grind isn't the be-all and end-all

[wild ridge]

Fair

[wild ridge]

No

[burnt elbow]

id rather skip story then and blast ok

what about warlords

[wild ridge]

You have ny dlc yeah?

[burnt elbow]

yes i have brooklyn and warlords

from that ultimate edition

[wild ridge]

Idk if you can boost straight to 40 but ik you can do at least 30

[burnt elbow]

so do warlords after i skip to 30 ?

[hearty owl]

There is a boost to 40

[wild ridge]

Or if you don't care for campaign just go to 40

[burnt elbow]

im going to 40 im not sure about what warlords does

or go to brooklyn

[wild ridge]

Just gives you skills that should be unlocked if you boost

[hearty owl]

Honestly I’m not sure what Warlord’s does anymore either

[burnt elbow]

oh so dont do warlords just boost and go to brooklyn ?

[wild ridge]

Lol

Idk I don't have Brooklyn dlc

[hearty owl]

Just skip to Brooklyn yeah

[fair dragon]

Decoy and sticky bombs, you know, the DPS meta skills

[burnt elbow]

so the whole game is just brooklyn ?

[hearty owl]

You still need to unlock those w the boost?

[fair dragon]

No...

[fair dragon]

Yes

[hearty owl]

😭

[burnt elbow]

sorry im a bit confused

[hearty owl]

Brooklyn is the latest DLC but more or less makes everything before it obsolete. You can do Warlord’s which was the previous expansion if you want to go in order

[fair dragon]

Purchasing the Brooklyn expansion comes with a lv 40 boost. Once you use the boost, you have technically reached "end-game"

[burnt elbow]

if warlords is obsolete and i dont need it then ill just go to brooklybn

campaign is slow as hell

and asking me to max settlements

[fair dragon]

It's not obsolete... At least not if you want to use WoNY-exclusive skills.

[peak meadow]

The Warlords dlc gives you a meta DPS skill called decoy

[burnt elbow]

wait so can i skip to brooklyn then go back and clear warlords

[peak meadow]

Taken by DPS players who want to be shot just a little less

[hearty owl]

Yes

[urban latch]

if you want to skip the campaign I totally get it, but Id highly suggest you create a second character ( youve got 4 slots) to boost on in case you decide you want to go back to the campaign

[burnt elbow]

hmm

[hearty owl]

Just to to Brooklyn bruh you can get the mid skills later 😭

[burnt elbow]

oh so i can go and clear warlords after i tier skip to brooklyn

[hearty owl]

Not sure how Warlord’s is treated with the Brooklyn boost but all the missions from the Warlord’s campaign will be available to you— just not the story maybe? The super exciting cinematic story that everyone loves

[burnt elbow]

lol

[magic pilot]

Warlords should be unaffected

Since you can hit lvl 40 without it now

[untold fulcrum]

Is there a new exotic that makes it so both ur weapons talents work?

[hearty owl]

Yeah it’s the reward for the climax mission or whatever

So not out yet

[untold fulcrum]

When does it come?

[solar berry]

End of the season

[cerulean smelt]

in game open scout menu will tell you when it opens up

[solar berry]

You can always do previous ones in legacy manhunt.

[thorny kernel]

Is an LMG with the Unhinged talent even worth it?

[solar berry]

Not really tbh

Only if you don’t have any other why of using sadist do whatever. It’s a decent dps talent. But best in slot

[void coral]

Yeah I'm just working on a support build so at least I'm not completely worthless in countdown while farming good red sets

[hearty owl]

I think if you targeted Strikers and did one countdown you could use those pieces and be the best player in all future Countdowns

true story btw

[onyx sage]

no way

[hearty owl]

like the rolls on the pieces could be so abysmal

[solar berry]

That’s for any gearset. You only need the core or attribute to be to your liking, then you re roll the other stat

And optimize it. It’s not like gold gear where you hope 2/3 stats is to your liking atleast

[thorny kernel]

Is an Rifle/MMR build using Breaking Point worth it?

[magic pilot]

No

[peak meadow]

I have never once seen a man run it

[wraith orbit]

Anyone got a good medic birdies quick fix build

[peak meadow]

This is what I'm using but I dunno if you want to use it

Reinforcer Chem launcher better in pubs

[wraith orbit]

What's with people using no brand gear?

[thorny kernel]

Okay because i have a friend who's new to the game and they mainly play rifles and MMRs.

The thing is that their build identifies as "Random BS Go!" And i wanna put a proper build together for them

[wraith orbit]

Im outta the loop

[peak meadow]

It offers you a mod slot

[wraith orbit]

aaah

[cerulean smelt]

probably to put in PFE to get the maximum amount you can against yellow barred enemies XD

[peak meadow]

The build is Legendary viable at least how I am playing

[cerulean smelt]

then you get a red and purple hit you and you go down (> <)

[onyx sage]

can i get an order of 3 purple mini tanks

[peak meadow]

As if yellows aren't bad enough

[thorny kernel]

Is this something i can recommend to a player who just got their SHD watch?

[solar sable]

Make all your gear have Headshot DMG (mainly) and Weapon Handling as attributes, Airaldi bag with Vigi and that's it

mantis is cool, don't change it
I personally would run a shotgun for backup (Scorpio since I don't use any exotic mmr)

[thorny kernel]

If not Scorpio, would a HE Six-12 suffice?

[solar sable]

I would run m870 with... brazen? IIRC

[peak meadow]

Six-12 dead, it reloads too slow now

[thorny kernel]

I mean i run ACS-12 with brazen or pummel mostly

[peak meadow]

They really made the Six-12 take like four seconds to finish reloading

[subtle bluff]

Six12 isn't dead dead just isn't has crazy has it use to be.

It's "Balanced"

[solar sable]

they nerfed the goat 😔

[peak meadow]

Into the trash it goes

[rich cosmos]

Blame scorpion for being as powerful as it was and still is

[subtle bluff]

Trust me I'm the sadest of them all

[peak meadow]

Every time I face hunters, I cry

[subtle bluff]

Six12 was my baby

[urban latch]

with headhunter you want high base damage guns. The same reason it works well with MMRs is the same reason its amazing with shotguns like the M870, but also the reason it does basically nothing with ARs or the ACS12

[hearty owl]

OH YEAH??

[wild ridge]

@rain steppe

I have summoned the div2 sniper jesus

He will show The Way™

[magic pilot]

Is he even playing div anymore? I haven't talked to him in like a year

[rain steppe]

I burnt myself out a bit getting the world record on tidal Basin, but I still hop on from time to time and keep up with the patch notes

[rain steppe]

4pc hotshot is great, and headhunter is great too, but for the other parts there's a lot of variation that really depends on the type of content they're doing.

Shoot me a DM and I can help you out, I run the Sniper clan on PC, and we've got a bunch of different builds to pick from 🙂

[onyx sage]

hi swift

[magic pilot]

Goat detected

[onyx sage]

I'm just an average player

[rich cosmos]

Blinder firefly

[woeful zodiac]

How would an exodus corruption work with hunters fury?

[broken bridge]

Skill damage + Pestilence?
Status Effect + Pestilence?

[subtle bluff]

No and no.

[hazy steeple]

It's just weapon damage.

[broken bridge]

Pestilence does not have a combination?

Just weapon damage

[subtle bluff]

It's in the talent

WD and TWD

[subtle bluff]

sorry what?

[hazy steeple]

Pestilence Talent:

Hits apply a debuff dealing 100% weapon damage over 10 seconds. This stacks up to 50 times.
Whenever an enemy dies with this debuff, all stacks are transferred to a nearby enemy within 25 meters."```

[broken bridge]

Right I got you, I always thought to ask but thanks anyway and same with you Riven thanks 💯

[hazy steeple]

If you're ever unsure, don't feel bad about asking. We all started out not knowing most stuff.

[broken bridge]

6 years and still learning

[hazy steeple]

That's when the spreadsheet kicks in.

[broken bridge]

But thanks guys 💯 much appreciated

[woeful zodiac]

Exodus gloves paired with 3 pc system corruption (grants pulse and disrupt resistance) with 2 pc hunters fury (shotgun and smg damage)

[urban latch]

that would not be a good build....

[subtle bluff]

As mentioned, this isn't a good build. You're not using any Chest or BP talents for starts.

[broken bridge]

Where’s Unbreakable and Adrenaline Rush 🫣

[subtle bluff]

No context to what he's trying to do but the build isn't doing any dmg.

[magic pilot]

2 of the most mid talents in this context woho

[subtle bluff]

Why would use both unbreakable and a adrenaline rush together..

[magic pilot]

Because he plays pvp

[broken bridge]

Now we getting feisty just over 2 talents

[subtle bluff]

The more uptime any talent has the better it is.

[formal kraken]

What Specialization and support weapon should I be running for a Hunter's Fury and Orobourus build?

[subtle bluff]

Firewall or Gunner. What else you feel liike lacking for dps.

[formal kraken]

Okay, do you think Lefty would be good? Or would I be lacking too much range?

[winter moth]

Hello guys, is this good build for Diamondback? Coyote's Mask + 2x Zwiadowka + Fox's Prayer + The Sacrifice + 1x Grupo
Crit hit damage & Headshot damage

[near elm]

If I have a pair of blue knee pads with all 3 stats maxed what should I do with them?

[subtle bluff]

library

[near elm]

Cheers

[magic pilot]

I would just run nego imo

Fox/grupo chest, handling as a sub stat would be better than headshot as well

[copper holly]

Anyone used the purist smg?

[fathom brook]

So what other sets would you run with chameleon? Is it the illusion of free will and striker is pretty much the only option? And I'm still curious about the exodus gloves synergy

[urban latch]

hunters fury is the other really good smg/close range build. You dont get the SMG bonuses for the chameleon, but its still one of the better builds for it. overall the chameleon just isnt that good due to its weird place between ARs and SMGs

[cerulean smelt]

there was a time getting all 3 stacks was rough as well

[fathom brook]

This is the first time I'm hearing it talked about negatively tbh. I started a few days ago and have only seen people say how good it is to this point

Surely elmo and Lexington arent the only two rifles worth using for red builds

[peak meadow]

The people who frequent the build sections of most of these discords and the average player/YouTuber don't have much overlap

[fathom brook]

I see

[peak meadow]

Raucey is trustworthy

[cerulean smelt]

i've made a abuild from Localdeck and enjoyed it

[tulip charm]

The problem with cham is its consistency. Especially when you start pushing into higher diffs

Its a cool gun in paper but in practice its a different story

[peak meadow]

Like your build is probably fine below Legendary

[onyx sage]

most people do not do the hard content that we do and don't have perspective on what builds/weapons/skillsets are required at this level. i need to remind you that the average player plays on challenging, while we try to give advice that benefits you at the highest difficulties for your benefit

[fathom brook]

Oh I dont even have access to it yet, I'm still in hard difficulty atm and trying to figure out what build I want to aim for. I've been looking through videos just to get an idea of what is out there

[peak meadow]

Honestly if you're just doing hard difficulty, do whatever

[onyx sage]

youtube videos will just have the everyman youtuber post some dumb stuff for views

if you want to really look at the top of the line builds, you really want to look for speedruns

even those aren't really the ones you want to run if they're hyper-specific, in which case i would generally rely on advice here

[fathom brook]

Im lvl 40 and at the point where I'm farming countdown so I feel I should be trying to go for something to push further now

[peak meadow]

@onyx sage all you, I'm returning to bed

[fathom brook]

Atm I'm running striker strega, its been good enough

Mostly cuz it's the best I have

[onyx sage]

you can craft a police m4 or famas right now, these are more generally usable, strega relies on there being many enemies and falls off in single target content for example

[fathom brook]

Ill get on that when I hop on

[peak meadow]

I have made it to bed.

[cerulean smelt]

you'll start to doze off and your brain will be like "you know...." and you'll be wide awake (> <)

[fathom brook]

I'm thinking I should go for a fenrir obliterate chest, it just seems like a better version of striker chest but for any red build?

[onyx sage]

ceska chest instead of fenris

striker chest is used but only in specific scenarios

[cerulean smelt]

problem with strikers is the chc isn't high enough alone, why people use ceska

[fathom brook]

Gotcha

[onyx sage]

plus fenris means your secondary which isn't an AR usually won't benefit from it

[fathom brook]

Ill check that down as well, what about for a bag? Is momentum fruadwatch or is it actually good

[peak meadow]

Memento is fine for solo content

If you can't guarantee you're getting the kills, I wouldn't run it

[onyx sage]

memento is probably the best exotic for solo players

[cerulean smelt]

long time ago i hated it, but as i've been educated on it i'm actually liking it a lot
the whole talent part tripped me up since most other talents we've had Colored in we got it, grey out = on cool down so i thought memento was just terrible because it lasted for a short while

[fathom brook]

I've mostly been playing in a group with friends so what options are there? I know about coyote but a friend already dropped it and is running it, not sure if its worth stacking

[onyx sage]

the old striker bag still works

[peak meadow]

You don't need an exotic

[onyx sage]

you can use it with coyote as well

[cerulean smelt]

3 people can run coyotes as you can get all 3 buffs on it, but they all have to hit at diferent distances

[tulip charm]

Also I like not relying on other peoples coyotes

[cerulean smelt]

but yeah, exotics isn't always needed in builds. some are great within certain builds but just not needed

[tulip charm]

Yeah

[wild ridge]

Regulus crutch here it's needed on every build for the build to be useful

[onyx sage]

okay bro

[tulip charm]

Lmao

[onyx sage]

professional hiatus man returns as troll

[tulip charm]

Its a good thing Scorpio got nerfed

[untold fulcrum]

What named AR has streamline?

[tulip charm]

I was crutching that thing like crazy

[tulip charm]

Yes

Oh MK16

[onyx sage]

I'm sorry but... it's still good

[cerulean smelt]

Lud

[onyx sage]

rip bozo

now you gotta crutch with it again

[untold fulcrum]

Is it called Lud?

[cerulean smelt]

yes

[tulip charm]

Nah nerf killed it can’t convince me otherwise

[peak meadow]

No, he's calling you a Luddite

[onyx sage]

too bad, my credibility is too high for you to distrust me

[hazy steeple]

Dien has high credibility?

[tulip charm]

Why dont I see the average player abusing it then

[onyx sage]

ooooooo you will use the scorpio 👻

[tulip charm]

Huh?

😱

[onyx sage]

the average player is using elmo with a shield and revive hive

shotgun takes too much brain power

[cerulean smelt]

i've noticed that

[tulip charm]

Damn elmo is op

Gotta nerf it again

[onyx sage]

just leave my iron lung alone

lol

[tulip charm]

That gotta go too

[onyx sage]

nope.

[tulip charm]

Ok so we nerf iron lungs or regulus

Gotta pick one

[onyx sage]

elmo, done

[tulip charm]

Deal

[fathom brook]

oh iron lung is good? It does seem nice

[subtle bluff]

Has another " @onyx sage " would say I love Iron Lung.

[lusty sparrow]

Need advice on pvp builds. Been wanting to get into darkzone content and conflict

[median hull]

Use a status effect build with a burn sticky, the community will love and respect you, evident through positive Xbox messages.

[lusty sparrow]

Should i focus bule cores or a balance?

[median hull]

Jokes aside if you’re doing the dark zone I’d lean more towards blue cores. For conflict you don’t need to run as much armour.

[subtle bluff]

#td2-pvp-discussions

[ancient iron]

Anyone got a great build for caretaker

[median hull]

Just use any crit AR build and you’ll be fine, striker for example.

[lofty frigate]

i just swap the weapon in my striker builds

[rancid gulch]

any regulus headhunter gamers know how to take out chungas and the armor machine gun guys a lot faster?

[onyx sage]

switch to m870 and pop the helmet

[modern night]

Hutchler actually has a video going over the weak point for them and secret spots you can 1 tap then I’ll be honest to I just shoot there head with a shotgun and follow up with another headshot

[storm mist]

Newbie here here I am so confused on tinkering part..can some explain it..

[modern night]

Do you know how your library works ?

[storm mist]

That one no 🙂‍↔️

[modern night]

Ok so your library is where you pull stats off of other pieces of gear , and they can be saved there so you can then roll that maxed out stat on any other piece of gear.

[storm mist]

How can I save it in the library?by using the weapon with that stat?

[modern night]

Yes

[storm mist]

Or by deconstruction?

Also I am confused on that

[cerulean smelt]

the library you deconstruct your weapons/gears to extract the attribute or talent off of them

[modern night]

What that guy said ^

[storm mist]

Can I extract brand set skill and save it to the lib?

[cerulean smelt]

brands/gearsets don't matter those are always on it. what you're extracting is Weapon Damage/Armor/Skill Tier for a core in your library
then the attributes beneath that of red/blue/yellow of various names like Crit hit chance/damage/weapon handling etc

[solar berry]

i present to you the Lud(wig)

[storm mist]

I see thanks.. I am currently at lv25 rushing to unlock WONY for the summit to grind..l

[cerulean smelt]

then dont' worry about builds/library as it's a level 40 end game thing. doing those now is only for stuff level 1-30. 31-40 will be another set of stats and library listed

[storm mist]

Thank you very much😍

[mystic sky]

Hello. Which roll do I want on my Chameleon? And for striker, which link for global?

[solar berry]

dtooc is top tier

[strong cave]

ninjabike is top tier

[solar sable]

shut up lmao

[rancid gulch]

okay thank you!

[zenith plover]

I really cant get the airaldi backpack for my hotshot build😭😭😭

Is it attainable to get 10 shd levels in 2 hours with a striker build?

[tulip charm]

You can get like way more lol

[zenith plover]

Or is this too ambitious for 2 hours?

[subtle bluff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67BKp4dPlIQ&list=PLCBIQre8iMUIxQkiCIQ1qVkyhes3ciYC-&index=1&t=1647s

[zenith plover]

Even with a striker build??

[tulip charm]

Uh yeah

[strong cave]

nah bro trust. 5 piece improvised with ninjabike HITS. will clear a room after striker has already cleared it 10x

[jaunty igloo]

i would have thought striker would be one of the quickest ways

[tulip charm]

4 directive (5 if no pistolero) and just do open world stuff