td2-build-advice

[strong cave]

Damn.. still didn't get Brooklyn tho did you? 😂

[barren tartan]

On epic games and 15 june is one day before my bday

[hushed gorge]

Someone gifted me the dlc

[crude flame]

Anyone who knows about builds up?

[hushed gorge]

Whats a Build up

[crude flame]

Read that again

[hushed gorge]

You mean gear builds?

[strong cave]

Cannot say no to free dlc lmao

[hushed gorge]

Sorry Couldn't get it on first read

[crude flame]

No I was asking if somebody who knew about builds was awake…

[strong cave]

Check the pins for a build spreadsheet

[crude flame]

That did not help

[shy willow]

Well what exactly did you need help with

[old dragon]

hey guys got lucky with a ravenous drop, I'm struggling to find guides/build advice on this weapon - i did find a few build guides on youtube but im wondering if you have any suggestions

[crude flame]

Just looking for a build for solo conflict and dz

[shy willow]

There's a PvP guide in the spreadsheet

[crude flame]

Nothing shows up for me when I press it

[shy willow]

Ravenous is more of an accessory imo

You wouldn't build around it it's a tool

[shy willow]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1X87BwJv-I_58WAQh_bSDXRKNLBHTOi9Wtt4Bs6Pv7bY/edit?usp=sharing

[old dragon]

oh shame! i thought it was pretty decent?

[shy willow]

It is but it's most prominent use is one shot strats and pvp

There should be a rifle build in the spreadsheet you can use that as a template

Add or subtract what you wish till it feels good

[strong cave]

Open it chrome and use it as a desktop site. But the build guides are all there

[old dragon]

gotcha looks like a standard red dps is probably what i want

[shy willow]

Yep high end is usually the way to go for rifles

[peak meadow]

If you're a tank, it's suitable for destroying enemy armor plates in Legendary, but past that and raids, it has no real uses

[old dragon]

ok thanks guys, was hoping it would be excellent. i'll keep embracing elmo for the minute

[strong cave]

I mean, you could throw it on an aces and eights crit setup and use memento backpack... Issue is that you'll be relying heavily on a shield and memento to keep you alive. Ravenous I'd argue has a better place as a tool like Naval said and as a pvp weapon

[peak meadow]

Gonna be awkward to play the Ravenous mechanic with a shield tbh

[subtle bluff]

So many people wants rav to work has a build. Plenty have tried it.

[violet juniper]

sure

[violet juniper]

It's funny with nego. Insane crit, very high DPS gear set, and you can make 3 people explode at once with Rav

[thorny kernel]

Updated my FB tank a little with pieces from the new HE set

[peak meadow]

Perhaps the threat makes FB good

[tulip charm]

perhaps

[slate spoke]

from my experience with the decoy it seems to help if you teammates keep their distance from the enemy. also seems like whoever they shoot at will return fire.

[wild pond]

I see i see
Thanks for the info
Dont have the Lexington so just trying to find a decent replacement
Thanks for the step by step tho, helped a lot

[small light]

what should my attributes be on my st elmos

[honest moss]

Damage to target out of cover ideally

Or DTTOOC for short

[hazy steeple]

You can also use "dtooc".
or just "that one attribute you use on everything".
Whatever takes your fancy.

[small light]

prob just gonna do damange to target

[hazy steeple]

I hope that was intentional.

(dtooc is worth using as the name, as that's how most meta conversations will use it, plus its shorter).

[golden sun]

are tank builds worth much nowadays?

[peak meadow]

Former tank player, current PFE skill build player here, they're kinda unnecessary since they don't output damage or provide good utility.

If you can find a way to bring a LOT of utility, better players might appreciate you more.

But just casting Vanguard and NOT standing in the way of your DPS section is the bare minimum you could do.

[tawdry raven]

so does this look worth farming the hunters for?

[peak meadow]

Depends on if it's base mag or including the extended mag.

[tawdry raven]

hard to tell it doesnt show stacks

[golden sun]

ahh I see, thanks

and what about a hybrid of like, tank + revive/healing

[peak meadow]

That's what my build is currently

But it's one blue, five yellow

You're free to steal it if you want, it does everything but deal damage.

Heals, revives, destroys armor plates on Heavies/dogs, sets things on fire, etc

[golden sun]

huh, interesting, so no gear set but straight up skill + armor

will look into it a bit more for group content!

[peak meadow]

72% PFE makes me very tanky, and 50% damage reduction when/after reviving someone

It's legendary optimal

[golden sun]

what bp is that btw?

hmm, do you think Tartigarde or BTSU gloves would be decent?

[peak meadow]

Birdie's Quick Fix, it makes your revives go 5x faster

[golden sun]

jesus

[peak meadow]

It also grants you 10 seconds of 50% damage reduction when you manually revive someone

I use it to tank enemies while saving my allies

Tardigrade is a touchy one, BTSU gloves are better

Pro tip: if you have a revive hive and die, blow up your hive while it's on the ground once you get up from it, it'll overcharge you and refresh your hive for you.

[worn mango]

Problem with Frenzy is that you'll have mags where frenzy isn't active because it does re-stack on top of the existing buff. Killer will keep re-proccing but Frenzy has a timer and you'll then have no talent eventually

[tawdry raven]

woo new item is mid what else is new

[subtle bluff]

But like our other dmg talents that only get better at the end of a mag this is at the start. The real issue is that you need to empty the Mag and reload to proc it.

It needs testing I wasn't able to get it in the PTS and I'm sad we can't a normal frenzy.

[slate spoke]

anyone know the expertise level bonuses on the smart cover skills?

[peak meadow]

Not out yet

[slate spoke]

oh you can't upgrade them?

[peak meadow]

Not yet anyways

[slate spoke]

oh ok good i didn't redeem scavenging points to level them up with donations

[subtle bluff]

It's not in the expertise menu basically.

[slate spoke]

that probably also sort of explains why i can't find/buy the skill mod blueprint for it

[subtle bluff]

I was surprised yesterday when I picked my first skill mod up a 7.4 duration mod for it.

[slate spoke]

it lasts so long already, i feel like it could have been a tiny bit shorter duration with a tiny bit less cooldown.

[past berry]

What would be a good build with Birdies quick fix? I was thinking the new gear set could be good

[worn mango]

Yeah I'd like to actually see how much uptime it has on it. Ideally you have to average it all out to see if it's worth it

People do have 8/8 Hunters now so the guides will be incoming I'd hazard to guess

[subtle bluff]

Birdies is only good if you're planning to Rez people manually all the time.

[worn mango]

And if that's the case, get new teammates

[past berry]

I just wanted to try and make a build

[past berry]

Yeah that's what I was planning, the hive rez doesn't seem great. That'd why I was gonna try and use it with heal hive and the new gear set

[subtle bluff]

It should work thru the whole mag. I just dunno if 50 mag size worth it.
I've done it a lot stuff with frenzy on LMG.

Rez hive not great...

That's crazy to read.

[past berry]

I obviously meant with the exotic

[worn mango]

Here's Ikia's math on it on a Striker build. Just don't know how it works in practicality

1204 RPM on an AR is fun though

[past berry]

The buff from it is stronger with manual rez so I was planning to just run a healing hive with it

I wish birdies was better, I just wanted to try it out since I just got it

Measured assembly has been fun but idk if it's better using the cover link or the hive

Cause I'm assuming measured assembly is better with BTSU gloves

[worn mango]

@subtle bluff so I see the issue with it on a 50 mag. You can come into scenarios where either the end of the mag doesn't have Frenzy or a reload doesn't proc soon enough so that you're just not getting the benefit until the next one

If Frenzy re-procced every reload and just kept the uptime at max on reload, then I think it'd be seen as more viable

On 100 rounds on the Sleirnir you get about 170 shots before having to reload

[viral wasp]

anybody make a solid catalyst build yet? was thinking it'd be good with on going directive?

[dreamy valve]

OD might be the play

[past berry]

I like it with ouroboros or Iron Lung

[dreamy valve]

Ironlung is underrated. It frees up a skill slot for you

[viral wasp]

what about backfire with bleed resistance?

[past berry]

It's so fun to use, I wanted to use it with that fire turret gear set but I wish that gear set was better tbh

[subtle bluff]

Trust me I know how it works. But being a on a normal skill build and running to Rez without backup if you go down.

[dreamy valve]

Ortiz is trash tier unfortunately

[subtle bluff]

It's broken atm from testing it

[past berry]

Yeah I just wanted to build a build for fun / gimmick more than high end so that's why I asked what would work best with it

[viral wasp]

broken like good or just doesnt work lmao

[past berry]

I liked it so much I'm d1 💔

[subtle bluff]

Yeah mag size makes a different but also making mag size and rpm.

[dreamy valve]

should have been a separate turret skill instead of devoting an entire gearset to modifying a single skill

[subtle bluff]

There's one that works but how to play is whole another story.
PFE Skill core build.

[subtle bluff]

We only get 2% doesn't stack correctly

[viral wasp]

ahh okay

[past berry]

I mainly like it for the ads while on fire

Close enough, Welcome back feros mask

[past berry]

I'm a eclipse protocol enjoyer with Scorpio and riot foam launcher

[dreamy valve]

Im going to try out my chc/chd red Eclipse set with it

[viral wasp]

ooo yeah cc woud probably be the way to go

was just thinking OD for the dmg

[past berry]

I forget the name but the name Lmg that does more damage to status effect enemies has been my go to for builds

[dreamy valve]

100% increased threat needs to be first, then buff the 50% reduced threat to 100% reduced threat

for the perfect meme

[past berry]

I was running that on a support build since I was only getting the first bonus, it was kinda nice since I wasn't beamed instantly lol

[dreamy valve]

I might use it with Exodus and Decoy. Ninja build 🥷

[past berry]

That actually does sound fun

[past berry]

I loved when I first got exodus I remembered realizing how it healed you cause you'd be "out of combat" and I wanted to try it out so I went and played summit and made a build for it, and then by accident put on the directive that's removes healing outside of combat 💔 I didn't realize it until was later and thought I broke it lmao

[past berry]

I think I made a build with hunters fury and chatter box

With exodus ^

[dreamy valve]

yeah exodus is also underrated

[subtle bluff]

It's soo good. It's like a must for me in leggo dps. I want to try to cloak out.

[past berry]

I can't wait for the Tinker Mask, it's cool they brought back alpha bridge from D1

I was thinking of making a build with it with that bee pistol

[past berry]

I'd love an LMG gear set that builds into threat making you deal more dps or something

I always wanted to see more gear around it and suppression

I wanted to make a build with the Pistol from Iron Horse but there's really not a lot of pistol armor set bonuses too

The buikd i use for the funny cowboy build I think is mainly just brand sets

[violet juniper]

HHF

headhunter with Hunters Fury

[past berry]

Oh true, I should do that lol

[violet juniper]

Works real good with shotguns too btw!

if you use Thorn it's really fun

[past berry]

I think i made a chatterbox build with hunter fury recently just cause I haven't played in a while and wanted to use some older exotics

[subtle bluff]

It's kind of the only threat table we know is dps. When you're doing the most dps to something you tent to grab the agro

[hollow frost]

I'm just coming back to the game for the dlc, any builds y'all suggest? Drop me the info, what y'all runnin?

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages. In the Gdoc

[dense lynx]

Think im good on crit damage now 🤣

[dreamy valve]

That is some dedication for 28 Expertise on all your stuff

[dense lynx]

Im barley rank 184 lol

Then again ive only had the game for pc for like 2 months

[dreamy valve]

He still died to Rat Queen though lmao

[dense lynx]

I didnt die to her i died to the bosses before her ☠️

Bur ya the gun the guy who i played with earlier makes challenge difficultly feel like the easy difficulty lol

[magic pilot]

It's called "free exos"

[dense lynx]

Saint Elmo or somethin

[magic pilot]

Pts Videos are gross

[dreamy valve]

I had a beast bruiser build so I rolled through all of the Brooklyn mission

[dense lynx]

It was neat to go back to where the series began lol

Is division 3 still going to be a thing?

[magic pilot]

AFAIK yes

[dense lynx]

Afaik?

[magic pilot]

As far as I know

[dense lynx]

Ah

Didnt heartlands get canned?

[magic pilot]

Yes

To work on Div 3 I believe

[dense lynx]

Ah

[dreamy valve]

So it looks like we still have to wait 11 weeks for Tinkerer to unlock

I’d rather grind for it in a mission like Catalyst bruh

[hybrid hatch]

These new seasonal modifiers are absolutely ridiculous. My PFE build now has permanent Perfect Intimidate (not to mention a ludicrous amount of permanent bonus armor)

The purple flame debuff is basically non existent 🤣

[dreamy valve]

Blue core hybrid builds are meta this season

[normal vector]

can someone send a good status build for high level activities

[subtle bluff]

More context. Solo? Support? Etc etc

[normal vector]

for like countdown, legendary/heroic missions. usually with a team ig

[cerulean smelt]

what would one look like?

[peak meadow]

Shamelessly promoting my own build

[dreamy valve]

I’ll post it once I finish doing my dirty business and waking up from my nap

[cerulean smelt]

take it the knees are emporers guard?

[past berry]

Thank you lol, I wanna play around with it so wanted ideas

[peak meadow]

It's what I use to support my teammates in legendary

VERY FUN

[past berry]

You could run Technician for an extra tier skill to get a red or blue tier

I also completely forgot that exotic shotgun exists lol

[peak meadow]

I need survivalist for the crossbow and armor kits to heal my allies

[past berry]

Ahh that's fair

[peak meadow]

The pistol gives me my sixth skill tier

So most of my time is spent with it out

[past berry]

I'm returning player but didn't the Devs talk about changing up how the specializations work. Like not linking the grenades and skills to the classes anymore

I might be lowkey crazy 💔

[hazy steeple]

It's an evolving discussion, and not planned for release yet.

[thorny solstice]

Huntsman
Short review: very good

[past berry]

Ah okay! Thanks for letting me know.

I really liked the idea for build crafting ideas, especially the grenades being non class specific

[past berry]

That camo is so fire

[thorny solstice]

Twitch drops, u can get it right now by just watching someone.

[rich lotus]

What's the huntsman talent and stats

[rich lotus]

It was planned a long time ago by someone who doesn't work at the company anymore so the idea got shelved

[subtle bluff]

I don’t promote his build but it does work I’ve dubbed it “Master of Uppies”
It is funny to do it job but to understand it’s playstyle take a bit to understand.

[rich lotus]

But that's not to say nothing will ever change with them

[subtle bluff]

Prefect Frenzy

[rich lotus]

Woah. I just got the shepherd one

[past berry]

Damn 💔 I hope in the future they'll at least let you switch classes from the menu

[rich lotus]

I'd just be happy if you can pick any grenade regardless and specialization choices are saved to builds

[past berry]

Yeah like I said I wasn't doing this build for anything but fun lol.

[past berry]

Same, I really wanna run the Bleednade but don't wanna run that specialization

It be nice to be able to pick whatever nade you want along aide the normal one.

Makes me sad that the collector chest plate really isn't great endgame cause it looks so cool, I'd love to do a funny grenade build for fun

[rich lotus]

No you know what they messed up for grenade build?! The collector is in the same slot as mad bomber

Perfect Mad bomber should've been a backpack talent

[past berry]

I know right???

[rich lotus]

Yeah it's messed up

[past berry]

I wish the assembly measure had the perk from those one exotic kneecaps that diffuse grenades and give it to you

I also might be thinking about a different exotic or my brain is thinking about d1

[violet juniper]

That's the championship pads from div 1 lol

[past berry]

I'm so half witted 💔 lol

[rich lotus]

Ok so, they should do a total skill pass and then a talent pass

Like you know. Make the fireflies actually good

[violet juniper]

Fireflies are good

the blinder one is anyway lol

[rich lotus]

Buff perfect clutch and efficient

[past berry]

Is Negotiator's Dilemma good, I don't think I've used it since it came out lol

[violet juniper]

Clutch is a relic from a different era pol

[violet juniper]

One of the top DPS sets

[rich lotus]

Yeah the blinder is I use that. But demolisher freaking sucks and it always just despanws out of existence before it even gets to a target 🤦

[past berry]

Oh damn, what would you recommend running with it ?

[past berry]

I use it in descent lol

[violet juniper]

preferably something with higher base damage so it can benefit from all the extra crit

LMG's go pretty well

Rifles are great too

[past berry]

Okay I'll look into building it

I got ouroboros

[split glen]

Why did they nerf dz turrets? now people are door camping with regen hazard with foam while the turrets are shooting r them ts makes no sense

[past berry]

I also have big horn

[violet juniper]

won't go well

[past berry]

Armor wise, would I use full chest and backpack or any recommendations?

[violet juniper]

you want to have a high end chest and mask

Nego backpack is best in slot

Obliterate or Glass cannon is perfect for chest talent

[rich lotus]

I use the new skill and it's so good at even t3

No I mean t1

[violet juniper]

mask is your choice, I'd suggest Coyote's though

[past berry]

I was assuming that for exotic lol

[violet juniper]

I'd like to try the new catalyst mask once the devs fix it

Iron Lung is a good LMG to use

[rich lotus]

Didn't negotiators dillema get reworked and most people say it got worse 😂😐

[violet juniper]

uh... No

old Nego was horrible

[rich lotus]

Well people I see online line to complain that they killed it with the rework

[past berry]

I've taken huge gaps between playing that I'm missing so many gear sets

[violet juniper]

trust me, Nego 2.0 is a big improvement

it's a set for group fighting

[rich lotus]

I believe you

[past berry]

I just love the build crafting and looter shooter aspect

[rich lotus]

Just like od

[past berry]

I'm gonna build it when I'm free.

I wanna make some good dps builds, my main ones are CC skill/support

I love the Scorpio for eclipse protocol

[rich lotus]

Make a tp build

[past berry]

Tp?

[rich lotus]

This guy in legendary summit was making people turn into fireworks with it it was cool af 😂 and kinda good

True patriot

[past berry]

Ohhh

I got it the second you said fireworks lol

My friends runs that a lot

[rich lotus]

Like it could probs us a buff but it's not impossible to use

Ok so what skills do you run for true patriot

Cause they're adding true patriot themed skill effects. Like 4th of July patriotic stuff. So they really should've given whatever skills a tp build uses that treatment

[past berry]

My friend runs the shield and I think the sticky nade

I swear I always miss the coolest cosmetics when I dont play, I saw some guy with like a bear skull mask and was so sick

[past berry]

I love running the rigger and btsu glove so I'm excited for a hive cosmetic

[rich lotus]

Lucky for you they're not out yet

I used to run rigger.... I haven't in a long time. But back in the 2020 days it was my go to

Man legendaries back then were a whole different beast. And rigger was great for that

[past berry]

Yeah I think that's what I used for mine too

I was so happy when I got Big Horn, I wanna make a build with it but kinda forgot to

[rich lotus]

Me too

Back then it wasn't as good

I use refactor now it's fire

Actually this season is just so good. Best season since they did season 2.0 idc

Actually I saw this guy in legendary summit who had like 5 pfe mods on. And he had 5 or 6 blue cores and all his gear was rolled to armor regen and he literally was invulnerable

[peak meadow]

He's probably susceptible to heavy burst damage and possibly explosives, I used to run a build very similar to that.

[keen python]

Hey I just started playing (im level 10). Should I finish the campaign before start watching beginners build videos? 🤓

[tulip charm]

Just do campaign since only build matters after lv40

[hexed steppe]

Plz skip the videos and go right to the pinned sheet after hitting 40

[keen python]

Thank you boss

[knotty spruce]

This whole Caretaker weapon locked behind something that doesnt work 80% of the time is just stupid on a whole different level ^^

[fair ridge]

i didn't have a single issue with it. it took some time to get calls sometimes, but overall it was pretty fast and easy

[dire locust]

Is psn down?

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what?

Explain your reasoning for this thought.

Pretty sure we can help you understand what's going on here.

[dire locust]

My internet is up but getting Youre Offline

[subtle bluff]

Use either #ask-td2-community #td2-general-chat we’re just builds here.

[peak tendon]

Can anyone tell me what is a good gear with the pestilenc lmg ?

[subtle bluff]

LMG Dmg stuff or just use Strikers

[dull drum]

bluescreen or the ironlung lmg for the catalyst exotic?

[subtle bluff]

Catalyst isn’t working correctly atm so either. Catalyst isn’t that good vs other opinions. Not every exotic is good.

[white pollen]

Need a discord bot for the FAQs here 😭

[worn mango]

I never understood the point of Nego just trying to hit multiple targets lol

[subtle bluff]

We need FAQ in general but none of us have really built one.

[subtle bluff]

OH?

[worn mango]

I've built it but never enjoyed it

[subtle bluff]

Wanna know why it’s my favorite build now for leggo and

[worn mango]

Please enlighten me, I'm looking for new stuff to play just because

[hexed steppe]

nego is 😍

[subtle bluff]

ND you can mark has many target has you want. You’re gonna do dmg 2 other at 112% more.
With Bluescreen you have mark everything with it so has your kill things it procs Bluescreen and keeps going on and on with new marks and deaths.

[white pollen]

In fairness, if it's not interactive, then similar to the current system of pinned stuff - people won't bother looking and will ask the question for someone to respond anyways 😜

What might work as a way to really put the FAQ content in front of peoples' faces such that it's hard to overlook - create a channel for it of sorts that is required to look at upon joining the discord, kind of like most servers' #rules channels. Can lay out the important links and information for common, generic builds questions, etc.

(sorry, off-topic for this channel, I realize)

[worn mango]

Still four piece with Grupo/Ceska back/chest?

Are you changing from tech because Bluescreen is not leveraging laser? Are you changing spotter to Oblit?

[hexed steppe]

go glass, get spicy

[worn mango]

Watch me die

[hexed steppe]

then obl

[white pollen]

I'm not a masochist, but for the life of me I cannot stop using my perfect glass cannon chest 😭

[worn mango]

Any preferred secondary or are you just trying to leverage Bluescreen as much as possible?

[hexed steppe]

its hard to go back

[white pollen]

It also forces you to learn and adapt to the style of play you need to do legendary content, and solo heroic stuff.

[hexed steppe]

im guessing its all about leveraging bs. personally i run boring nd with elmo (or preferred ar)/m1a cqb

[worn mango]

What do you run on the M1A?

Talent wise I should say

[hexed steppe]

boomerang

[worn mango]

And preferred skills?

[hexed steppe]

this is my general setup. on legs with bs emp sticky or jammer probably prefered over banshee tho

[subtle bluff]

4pc bp, Ceska Chest and Exo gloves is what I’ve using.

[solar sable]

omg localnego is here

[white pollen]

Just out of curiosity - why m1a instead of 1886? just preference?

[hexed steppe]

i was a nego baby way before i was a mortar main

[hexed steppe]

preference

[subtle bluff]

Now that modifiers are allowing us to go over CHC cap I’ll probably throw on SMG again.

[worn mango]

Spicy

[subtle bluff]

Both new name AR is also a choice it’s depends on your playstyle with ND.

Like 2nd section of Leggo Tidal I try to wait to see all of the dogs proc on all of them and an ad or 2, EMP stick a dog and switch to a Lex with Ranger and beam everything. I can see either new AR just going hamm

[worn mango]

So you know what's a hot take of why I don't think I like Nego? I feel like I'm not doing damage until everything is dead

Just did a 10:48 on DUA and it felt fine but I can do better with other stuff

[rich lotus]

I got it really easy are people just not endorsing you? I feel like low-key I wasn't every time too but the auto endorsements leveled me up quick

[shy willow]

When mod role 🧐

[solar berry]

local became mod 👀

[hexed steppe]

recently

[solar berry]

said fk it and be mod or you always wanted to be one?

[worn mango]

They needed a pure mortar propogandist

[hexed steppe]

they filled that role well

[cerulean smelt]

im scared (> <)

[violet juniper]

you will now be forced to use mortar or be banned

[solar berry]

the deck is local now

[violet juniper]

Put that china light piece on mister!

[violet juniper]

That's Nego in a nutshell. "Why am I doing no damage- oh everything is dead"

[hexed steppe]

mortar is a gentle suggestion only 😆

[rich lotus]

I'm about to make your build right now

[hexed steppe]

but with no Mortar, there is no Supremacy

[violet juniper]

I'm gonna make an Umbra iron lung build with catalyst mask, then I may do mortar

why mortar when you can set things on fire really fast

[urban latch]

time to ban anyone who dares disagree

[shy willow]

🔨

[hexed steppe]

[solar sable]

I am in disagreement with Localdeck's statement.

[violet juniper]

banned

[hexed steppe]

Doomz. who?

[worn mango]

I know of Dom from Fast and Furious, and he's all about family and mortar

[violet juniper]

imagine Toretto just saying "Mortar" the whole movie with no explanation

"it's about Mortar"

distant boom

[fossil cave]

5% wep dmg or 13% crit damage

[worn mango]

crit damage

[rich lotus]

Are btsu gloves with hive still the best overall way to generate overcharge?

[hexed steppe]

its a solid way

[cerulean smelt]

probably the easiest and consistent

[hexed steppe]

really depends on the build tho

[shy willow]

Not only OC but the main part is it overcharges the whole team

And you get a ton of hive haste

[rich lotus]

Huh cause I feel like there's been more and more ways to get overcharge coming out in these last few seasons or so

[violet juniper]

Doesn't Birdie bag give overcharge too?

[rich lotus]

Ah I see

And what is the longest overcharge you can have, 30 seconds?

[shy willow]

Yeah but it relies on your teammates being down so😭

[violet juniper]

yeah.. not the best lol

[tulip gulch]

Question should I re roll this or optimize it ?

[violet juniper]

I always thougt acosta was the best overcharge, just chuck a nade

[violet juniper]

Reroll

[hexed steppe]

there is accostas

less cooldown too

[tranquil surge]

if it's needed to buy expansion to be strong or you can just buy standard game?

[violet juniper]

Acosta is quicker, but less useful

[violet juniper]

I'd recommend getting the DLC's

otherwise your level caps out at 30

[hexed steppe]

it should cap at 40 with 1 end game a while back

[violet juniper]

I thought it was 30 base game, then up to 40 with WONY

oh it comes included in standard edition now

[hexed steppe]

1 endgame made it where everyone can access shd watch

even if they didnt own wony

[violet juniper]

ah, so you just miss out on the skills

[hexed steppe]

afaik yeah

[violet juniper]

that still kinda sucks though, the WONY skills are some of the best

Sticky and decoy are op

[hexed steppe]

yeah its worth getting the dlc

[shy willow]

A lot of players swear by the revive hive and crusader

[violet juniper]

I know

I've had to pick up more tier 0 shield monkeys than I can count lol

[subtle bluff]

BTSU is the OC for more than one reason. Global OC (if Skill Teir 6) , Refresh’s a Skill (one more oxi) and if you’re not Skill 6 it’ll OC you. Also It’s fastest OC.

[subtle bluff]

Above oops

[rich cosmos]

Can someone post the stats and perk of bluescreen?

[shy willow]

Everythings in the spreadsheet

[tranquil surge]

what a meta build right now?

[subtle bluff]

In what sense?

[tranquil surge]

the best

[violet juniper]

perk is disruptor rounds. Shooting people builds stacks, when you deploy a non shield skill it spends those stacks to put a status effect on everyone you shot. The more stacks you have, the more status effects you put on the enemies

[rich lotus]

I see. I'm trying to find all the ways you can get overcharge in this game I'm about to ask Google Gemini lol

How long does energize give oc for?

[shy willow]

Don't ask AI bruh😭

[violet juniper]

Don't forget about Future Perfect weapon talent too

[shy willow]

Check the spreadsheet pinned here

[violet juniper]

Use the wiki too

[rich lotus]

Also it seems like there's no exotic weapon or gearset that provides overcharge

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Messages go look at all the Talents

[shy willow]

Final measure

Measured assembly technically but whatever

[subtle bluff]

Is this for Oxi still?

[rich lotus]

No just general knowledge

Thanks for the answers guys 😂

[rich lotus]

I never use that skill

[subtle bluff]

Sorry wrong channel

[rich lotus]

The fact that measured assembly gives overcharge sounds awesome I wanna try it out now

Oh but I bet it's just for you huh

Just got Catalyst. Any build suggestions? Screenshots preferably please.

[subtle bluff]

It doesn’t work correctly atm

[rich cosmos]

I was busy at work 😭

[rich lotus]

Let me guess the stacks?

[scenic palm]

What weapon would you guys recommend for an Ongoing Directive build? Stuck between an AR or an LMG.

[subtle bluff]

Yup only 2% is working

[tranquil surge]

do i need worry about build before completing main game?

[subtle bluff]

All of them work as long has you have Sadist on it.

[rich cosmos]

Once your level 40 you do

Otherwise no

[scenic palm]

Ok, think I'll go with an LMG then, thanks.

[rich cosmos]

Negotiators has 15% crit chance on it right?

[subtle bluff]

Something like that. A lot.

[hexed steppe]

keep an eye out for carnage, lmg-perfect sadist talent

[rich lotus]

You can snapshot overcharge on certain skills?!

Im having Gemini tell me all this crazy stuff about how this mechanic works I'm sorry 😂😭

[solar sable]

smh...

[rich lotus]

I was just curious if anything granted it for more than 15 seconds

[dreamy valve]

Behind you Talent with Cloak might be worth a look

[solar berry]

It do appreciate the talent abit more. Same with mantis and many other build ideas. If cloak is ran by itself for the brand set

[weary vector]

Behold! My secret weapon!

[hasty sluice]

Does dttooc given by smart cover work with skills?

[subtle bluff]

Give DTTooC. If a skill scale off of it then yes.

[shy willow]

Namely oxidizer

[hasty sluice]

thats what i was making lol

[subtle bluff]

Where’s my oxi guide

I haven’t posted it for awhile now

[rich cosmos]

Wouldn’t that massively buff oxy then?

[hasty sluice]

trying to make one with hardwire + smart cover

[solar berry]

Imagine GC ontop of that

[shy willow]

In theory yeah massively

Id test it myself but I haven't run through Brooklyn yet waiting on my buddies

[hasty sluice]

with vs without smartcover

[tulip mauve]

Is this good enough for a one shot build? Haven't really played since the last season of year 5, so it's a very old build and probably not optimized or with the current meta items (I think I'm lacking quite a few High-End gear).

[hasty sluice]

yeah its fine lol.

headshot build hasnt changed much

[rancid gulch]

maybe no mantis?

[hasty sluice]

idealy you would use nem to start headhunter if you cant 1 tap stuff

[tulip mauve]

Yeah, I guess I should work on getting the Nemesis. Have seen before that it deals an absurd amount of damage.

[zenith plover]

What would be the best offensive support build for raids that buff up the teams damage?

[hasty sluice]

worthy oxi setup?

[subtle bluff]

This is the oxi guide

[tulip mauve]

Is 48 CHC good enough for a regular High-End red build with the new Caretaker AR? Running Coyote's, Gift and Sacrifice with Fox's Prayer.

[subtle bluff]

No you want to be just above 50.

pic of the build

[steep shadow]

anyone here know a decent build for a dude that started on PC yesterday?

[subtle bluff]

You 40 already?

[steep shadow]

yup

[peak meadow]

Everyone and their mother recommends striker.

[subtle bluff]

In the Pinned Messages GDoc has a bunch of builds

[tulip mauve]

That's the best I have right now. No mats, so I will probably be working on it this week.

[steep shadow]

i was SHD 350~ on PS and im pissed on how theres no cross platform progression

[subtle bluff]

Contractors gloves and a Ceska holster

[steep shadow]

i got like what, 5 maxed out builds?

[peak meadow]

I'm sitting here with like six variations of the same build

[steep shadow]

lol

is there perhaps some kind of all around build

much like the st elmo that I had a few months back

[onyx sage]

striker

literally what we've been saying above

[forest trail]

why not the striker chest tho

[hasty sluice]

momento or cyote for heartbreaker?

[subtle bluff]

Getting over 130 stacks is the only time it's worth and it's hard to keep up. This is shorter and more dps quicker

[forest trail]

hmm isee

[subtle bluff]

depends on what you want to do

[hasty sluice]

kill

[forest trail]

solo?

[hasty sluice]

ik momento isnt the best in a group but I still use it.

yike 💀

[subtle bluff]

What's your build?

[hasty sluice]

gonna switch the chest to red

[subtle bluff]

oh yea you want Ceska instead of Contractors

Try other weapons you'll have a better DPS

m4, p416, m249

[hasty sluice]

so the extra cc% is better than the dmg to armor + lmg?

[subtle bluff]

we call its CHC but the idea more CHC the more you can stats into CHD

so in the end more of both is better than DTA and WD

[hasty sluice]

fair

using dare due to wanting to prof it

it do look better

[subtle bluff]

it's base dmg is too weak.

[hasty sluice]

will keep that in mind to change it after

[hasty sluice]

the mk46 is the same as m249 correct?

[subtle bluff]

Not repost the video but if you search my name here later look up video you'll find a replay showing the upper limits of what HB with the right build and playstyle can do.

[hasty sluice]

neat

first craft lamo

[subtle bluff]

For LMG you want CHC and for everything you'd want DttooC

[hasty sluice]

too late

XD

also the gr9 just feels so bad to use

its like a lack of feedback

@subtle bluff Oxipecker on Hb gotta be funny. both you and your shield become almost imortal. I assume.

[subtle bluff]

Oxipecker base gun got a pretty big nerf awhile ago so it's makes the gun not so great when it comes acutally getting these to unhealth.

[hasty sluice]

thats unforunate :/

[subtle bluff]

HB doesn't make a shield tough. Just give buffer to take some dmg here and there.

[solar berry]

streamline makes striker op with modifer and be a tank as well

my modifiers

[hasty sluice]

wdym be a tank?

[solar berry]

4 blue cores and momento

[hasty sluice]

oh....

[solar berry]

cloak so i can have less aggro

[hasty sluice]

did not look at the cores tbh

[solar berry]

i love streamline. so much dmg on top of stacks

i did so much dmg that run... i went down couple times. never dead dead lol

zero death run'

[subtle bluff]

try the same in leggo.

[solar berry]

ob it be harder lol

legend from heroic is a jump

[subtle bluff]

Oh I know. I do leggo all the time

[solar berry]

i do it here and there

[subtle bluff]

I've carried a bit. It is harder to thing to do

[rustic vine]

Returning player here,

The build im trying to build atm :

Mask:Striker
Chest:Striker
Holster:Striker
Kneepads:Striker
Backpack:Grupo Som with Vigilance
Gloves:Exodus

All red cores

and then rocking the chameleon.

Is this build good for pvp or pve only?

[kind crest]

wouldnt use that in pvp tbh😅 striker chest is a hard no there and all reds with striker is also kinda a no imo

for pve ur all good tho 🙂 maybe just switch to ceska

depending on the pve content u do u might want to use a ceska chest with obliterate instead of the striker chest aswell 🙂

[rustic vine]

Im looking for a good pvp build rn and I havent played in a year or two,what would you recommend

[rustic vine]

I have ceska oblitirate thats min maxxed so could work

Dps but also tanky enough to not get beamed

[subtle bluff]

Switch Chest and BP

[kind crest]

thank you yea havent seen that it was a grupo bag

[kind crest]

also im guessing headshot regen is still the meta, maybe search that up im sure there are screenshots in this channel 🙂

[rustic vine]

Shot for the headsup,still need to get caught up with meta so im lost🤣

[subtle bluff]

I saw Striker Chest taht all I cared to get off

[rustic vine]

Okay,yeah it makes sense as chances are you wont be getting to 200 stacks in pvp

[solar berry]

Normal missions grind, and loot farming. Run momento with ceska chest obliterate. Maybe 2 blue cores.

Dps ceska chest with obilerate, striker everything with coyotes mask. Maybe all reds, if not… 1-2 blue cores

[kind crest]

if u want anything else than meta im not entirely sure tbh, not a big pvper but blue striker or something high end with 4 or more blue cores will do i think

[subtle bluff]

exo gloves are good

PvP striker isn't that great maybe in DZ when you have stacks already

there is a #td2-pvp-discussions place

I do lil PvP and I'm cheesey soo I don't have much to comment

[rustic vine]

Yeah i heard,still need to farm it - thats happening tonight

[subtle bluff]

Rip servers are down for 3 hours

they're fixing a bunch of stuff

[rustic vine]

Hunters fury maybe?

I have solid Hunters fury gear with 4 blue cores,momento and I think intimidate on the chest with fenris (might wanna swap that)

[solar berry]

PvP striker is kinda hard to build around… it’s all depends how well you play as a player overall. A new agent with low skill. I highly suggest not using it for PvP

Stick with a all blue core with crit attributes, mainly gold gear

[rustic vine]

Im happy,if I have to hear the announcement being spammed for the new dlc ima throw my controller

[rustic vine]

I have good aim and am sitting at shd 270 ish,so not new but also not shd 2000

[subtle bluff]

PvP is much different than PvE. There's 2 ways to explain it.
One: PvP you only 1 to 4 things to deal with where PvE it's a lot more.

Two: The idea is in 1 on 1 you're trying down the other guy with in 1 or 2 mags but also have enough Armor/HP to take 1 or 2 mags from the other guy.

Any with all red normally is dead pretty fast.

[hasty sluice]

smg feels so much better to use than an lmg for HB. Might try an ar. any reccomendations?

[rustic vine]

No I understand that,its why I came to ask,i need to relearn the game basically,Im also carrying a mate through his first playthrough so im kinda looking for a all rounder build,something to run challenging content but also to hold down the fort and protect him if we do pvp

[rustic vine]

Yeah unless its glass cannon and bakers dozen and there is distance

[subtle bluff]

M4, P416, Vector .45 (these are mostly due because you can put on the Tech laser pointer)

[solar berry]

Striker in PvP have bad survivability overall compared to most builds out there

[subtle bluff]

We just use an MMR at that rate since it'll down most players 1 shot.

[solar berry]

A headshot focused build with arm regen with bighorn/eb is the go to play for PvP

[rustic vine]

Whats the meta gear sets rn? For pvp

[hasty sluice]

no kidding. was in the dz and like 4 people just kept using nemi to 1 tap

[subtle bluff]

Again there's a Much better channel for PvP...

[hasty sluice]

ill test out the ar's tomorrow. Thanks 💕

[subtle bluff]

also get a acs12 brazen or lefty

[hasty sluice]

for stacks?

[subtle bluff]

Yes and it kills too

Brazen ACS12 is really strong

If I ever proc orbit ACS12 go ham

[hasty sluice]

Ik I have an acs12. but i cant recall the stats.

[subtle bluff]

Get it's CHC up for it to work well is the hard thing but when it is goes nuts

[hasty sluice]

I do have a lefty but its for my Fi

[subtle bluff]

Lefty is great for stacking since you can put 2 ROF on it

[hasty sluice]

I have a rockn roll that just collecting dust.

[subtle bluff]

It's good for when you need more than 100 stacks. Aka striker chest

[slate spoke]

it works for the whole team again right? the talent

[subtle bluff]

Yeah Idk why that haven't fix the wording yet...

[slate spoke]

i kept telling people they nerfed it for a while, was bad advice

[subtle bluff]

lol

Ya... It's in the older patch notes

[slate spoke]

well back to my flashbang grenades again

[slate spoke]

any recommendations for sniper turret. just looking for something fun. i was using rigger just for the qol

[hasty sluice]

Great for solo

[slate spoke]

how long does it take for each ammo to come back? i assume you probably put the turret some place you can pick it up easily

[hasty sluice]

This works to

[hasty sluice]

Ammo doesn't regen. With meh haste the turret comes back in like 15 seconds if you pop it. So picking it up isn't needed.

Obviously you want the armor rolled for skill damage + some haste.

[mystic sky]

Hi. Why are your armor blue?

[median hull]

Colour blind mode setting

[jaunty dust]

anyone got a solo striker build for master difficulty?

[honest moss]

Just throw on a memento and obliterate chest, other parts striker. Extra blues optional i guess. Idk memento go brrr.

[buoyant perch]

4 striker with chest, memento backpack and 1 ceska. Getting 200 stacks is not a problem solo. 4-6 blue depending on your skill level.

[unique pasture]

Im new, what perk should I unlock first?

[buoyant perch]

XP

[unique pasture]

sorry, i havent play long because the maintenance. Like should I unlock shield or drone or something

[buoyant perch]

shield and revival hive. In the past I would say drone turret is not bad but now the main mode to get new gear is countdown. This mode is really bad for offensive skills.

[verbal gust]

My dz build is 1 pc Belstone w adrenaline rush and 3 piece Golan gear emperor Kneepads catharsis mask and obliterate chest all blues. 🙂

[fair ridge]

are there any bluescreen builds that are still good? the one in spreadsheet still fine? bluescreen dilemma?

[verbal gust]

I want to build a dz build similar to that but with catalyst mask and pestilence but idk if that’s the right direction to go with that combo?

[worn mango]

Yep, that one is still relevant and we were actually talking about it last night. People are also using Bluescreen with a standard OD setup

[fair ridge]

that is the other one i was looking at. saw RogueGold's vid that was 3 months old

what is the "standard" od set? that nightwatcher mask?

[buoyant perch]

pestilence debuff is not a status effect

[fair ridge]

i just came back after like a year break for dlc, trying to figure out my old builds and sets

[worn mango]

I think his wasn't as optimized but you can just use a normal OD setup with Coyote mask, OD chest and a Ceska backpack with Wicked, rest OD, all rolled crit damage I believe

[fair ridge]

cool. not the pulse mask?

[worn mango]

Nah, pulse isn't a status effect

Used to be but does not proc you getting hollow point

This is the one from the build doc, this one uses Firewall but you can also use Gunner if you want

Use a primary with Sadist, secondary Scorpio because you can auto proc from it. Foam launcher is good for crowd control and can proc your hollow point as well

[fair ridge]

well the point was to try out bluescreen 😛

[worn mango]

True, Bluescreen can replace Scorpio honestly

And then instead of shield if you'll be primary Bluescreen just run a revive hive

[terse smelt]

why did they change it? too op?

[worn mango]

I'd imagine, I wasn't around then but it's just so easy to pulse

[terse smelt]

dame cause I was thinking of using the new mask (the catalyst) with heartbreaker

sad

[worn mango]

Catalyst from what I've heard a) doesn't really work right now and b) just ultimately isn't worth it

[solar berry]

Colorblind setting, idk if it looks like blue. But I use the color blind setting mainly for hive radius

Comes in handy in PvP and DZ ngl. Handy in PvE

[magic pilot]

https://youtu.be/xDqGre8rRXA?si=BE1zwQIFZjI1floh

If you are going to watch anyone check this guy out, he puts out really good quality videos and actually has good builds

[worn mango]

There's so few people it's funny to see one

Also, apparently Hunter's in BK don't give a crap about PFE. I just got absolutely lambasted by one in there

[fair ridge]

just got the Huntsman. what do I put on it as a secondary, damage to out of cover?

[hazy steeple]

@fair ridge The 3rd attribute should always be dtooc.

[fair ridge]

figured, thanks for confirming

rolled the other 2 max, no need to optimize woo

[slow cape]

I need a build just got to lvl 40

[frank hound]

What of this build? (Need Opinions):
Birdie Quickfix Backpack,
3 PC + Chest Measured Assembly,
Cloak Kneepad,
Assault Turret,
Healing Hive

[frank hound]

Striker 4 PC with St. Elmos

[frank hound]

You can use the Demolitions or Firewall Specialization for either explosion nullification (every 60s) or the firewall shield

[narrow bough]

So someone told me that the best way how to use Backfire is without hazard protection so i decided to think outside the box. I suppose this version of Backfire works for me way better for an open combat. What do you think guys?

[urban latch]

Ninjabike is a trap. Pick either umbra or strikers, not both

And just fill in with high end pieces

[rich cosmos]

Ninjabike user on their way to make the most mid build in their lives

Looks cool at least

Very good looking cosmetic

[pliant prairie]

solo build ive been using for a while, i think i need some help. I swap fairly regularly between Pestilence and Bullet King, and between the drone and turret. try to run heroic as often as i can for better roll chances on gear, but the new DLC's been kicking my backside which is why i come to you guys

[onyx sage]

just change your build to striker.

the answer to all your problems is just getting more damage and killing the enemies faster

the long answer is you're getting kicked because of not enough elites to really be using whatever small amount of pfe you have, and foundry really is just delaying the inevitable. exodus is like the only good piece here

[narrow bough]

I did one heroic control point and it worked flawlessly. Using the small cannon for heals, cover for healing and then popping up with fire rate, handling and damage.

[urban latch]

If you just swap the ninja for memento and 1p ceska, with the 4th umbra piece, you'll have a build that plays exactly the same except it will do more damage and have more survivability

[narrow bough]

I can try this variation. It is just the weapon handling from striker gives little bit more into the backfire and the rifle which i like a lot.

[grizzled pine]

anyone got build for the bluescreen?

[magic pilot]

Just run gunner

[magic pilot]

Check pinned sheet

[narrow bough]

I like the one skill tier there for free.

[narrow bough]

So i tried it and i kinda prefer the one i had before. Felt bit stronger with the additional fire rate from striker so i will play with how i made it before.

I just don't like the memento to be honest and since my armor on all red is weak, the blue armor barely gives any additional that will stay for longer.

[viscid plaza]

If you like the Umbra playstyle I really recommend smart cover, I run it with ninjabike brazos and I feel like a tank in cover and a striker build when I get out of it, you also get so many stats and can run different options for your other skill instead of just spamming reviver hive. Games are supposed to be fun, just "run the boring striker build" doesn't work when you're simply bored

[subtle bluff]

To note NBB will work but you are nerfing your build with it. Gaining 2 core and a few stars doesn't make up for lost BP.
You'll hit a wall eventually and see you'll need more dmg or something and NBB isn't going to the way.

Memento is one of hardest working gear piece's in the game. Once you pickup enough stacks it gives you more stats than anything else in the game.

[cerulean smelt]

still trying to wrap my head on the short term and long term buffs
going to assume the short term buffs are the colored in icon? which one of them gives us bonus armor, weapon damage and skill efficiency?
long term is the what usually would be a Talent on cool down (greyed out) which gives us weapon damage, armor regen and skill efficiency?

[mellow flint]

do we have a good measured build

[vestal ibex]

Gun talents are typically accessories to a build not the other way around.

You just put measured on a good build and go brrrr(then slower brrrr)

[mellow flint]

talking about the gear set not the brrr brrr grah grah

[cerulean smelt]

kind of figured you meant that, could've worded it "measured gearset" and people would've understood better

[slate spoke]

oops i thought you were talking about the gun talent also.

[timber dagger]

Please guys how do I get the exo meta mask and also is there streamlined no one is answering me I've beeen asking all day

[cerulean smelt]

streamline is on all weapons you gotta loot themw with the talent and destroy it to add it to your library so you can put it on your choices of weapons

not understanding what exotic meta mask is

[vestal ibex]

Tinkerer?

Give it like 10 weeks.

[cerulean smelt]

is it meta?

[timber dagger]

The one that they said adds two set bonuses like streamlined and strained

[vestal ibex]

It will be.

[vestal ibex]

Give it 10 weeks.

[timber dagger]

@cerulean smelt thabks finally inswear ive been asking 3 days straight

[vestal ibex]

It's from the climax mission so you just have to wait.

[cerulean smelt]

probably probably answered you but so many other things being asked, said probably got missed

[timber dagger]

@vestal ibex my man what do you mean 10 weeks?

Oh ok climax mission thanks souless13

Theoretically what would be the best 2 combined talents?

[cerulean smelt]

probably subjective to your build you're using it in

IE:OnGoing directive could be something like "sadist and pressure point" or "Sadist and streamline"

[timber dagger]

So there might be a chance striker won't be top gear set after years?

[onyx sage]

eh no, weapon talents generally don't affect gear set talents so your choice of weapon talents with the mask won't make striker itself any weaker or stronger

[cerulean smelt]

the measure gearset seems to be geared for skill tiers

[timber dagger]

Hasnt ikia or anyone else tested them on pts?

[onyx sage]

the realistically only thing it does is replace coyote's mask

striker is unchanged

[cerulean smelt]

pts was so much stronger 87% perfect 80% normal

[vestal ibex]

Certain talent combos are going to be strong regardless of build.

[cerulean smelt]

plus one could've used it with a shield

[hasty sluice]

Determined + streamlined

[cerulean smelt]

pummel + streamline shotgun?

[vestal ibex]

Meh, sniper builds are already crazy strong.

[hasty sluice]

Yeah but big number go brrrr

[cerulean smelt]

Rifleman + Determined rifle (> <)

[vestal ibex]

Just use nem then.

[hasty sluice]

I think you would still run brazen so you can use shield.

[hasty sluice]

Nem feels so bad to use tho

[vestal ibex]

Well I guess you don't really want big numbers...

[timber dagger]

Yeah

[hasty sluice]

I just hate the delay.

[vestal ibex]

Well cool part is if you are hitting 50 mil at full stacks and you know you are shooting someone with 10 mil(most elites on solo heroic) you can just do 1/4 charged shots and hit for like 12 mil.

[candid talon]

What's best middle talent for Huntsman? CHD?
(Leaving WD 1st and DottC 3rd)

[bold leaf]

It's always health damage

[candid talon]

HD over CHD?

[magic pilot]

No it's fixed

[bold leaf]

I mean it's fixed, can't change it

[candid talon]

OH WOW

Welp

[hasty sluice]

I think frenzy + optimistic on lmg would be fun

Would pump your burst dps up.

[cerulean smelt]

how do you get headshots with an LMG?

[magic pilot]

?

[bold leaf]

Neither of those are headshot specific

[magic pilot]

You mean optimist?

Just run unhinged

[hasty sluice]

....

Yeah I guess

[cerulean smelt]

if one ran the talent i was thinking (shotgun and/or sniper) wouldn't you aim for heads anyways?

[hasty sluice]

What are you even thinking about?

[bold leaf]

Sure, I didn't see the correlation between frenzy/optimist, lmgs and headshots that's all

[cerulean smelt]

i saw omptimistic, through opportunistic you know starts with an o and ends with a c and just thought uh headshots how with lmg? 🤔

[bold leaf]

That makes a lot more sense

[hasty sluice]

Measured + streamline on an smg and call it the Condo.

[timber dagger]

What about strained + optimist?

Or streamlined with strained or optimist?

[magic pilot]

Nah

Both are WD

Strained is outclassed by killer
Optimist is outclassed by streamlined

[cerulean smelt]

i personally like strained over killer honestly

[subtle bluff]

Optimist even with its buff a few season ago still isn't has good as thr others.

[subtle bluff]

Most people do for that uptime. The killer buff goes crazy.

[cerulean smelt]

maybe i do get it most times and i don't notice it much damage wise, but i'll definitely give caretaker a shot

though that build i'll have to decide what 2 talents to run with, maybe killer and strained?

[strong cave]

what would go crazy is backup calls and endorsing people

literally CARRIED a lvl 23 newbie thru the mission and didnt even get endorsed

[cerulean smelt]

not sure exactly how the whole shepard thing works
is it a missions/activity thing?
is it a time with the player you responded to thing?

[hazy steeple]

#ask-td2-community In the future.

[mint axle]

Tbf nobody explain to the newbie what endorsement means, so he doesn't even notice sometimes

[dreamy valve]

Isn’t there a Shepherd/backup call tutorial in game? Maybe buried under one of the menus

[white pollen]

Are you asking people to look something up themselves? 🤯

[dreamy valve]

Is for me too 🥺

[white pollen]

😜

[dreamy valve]

Even though I got the Shepherd patch

[dreamy valve]

Probably didn’t know how to

Or understand the whole system

No one reads the ingame tutorial documents anyways

[white pollen]

That was my point lol; was being cheeky 🙃

[feral anvil]

i believe i got this build from an older patrick wolf video but im still surprised by how good it is. makes farming catalyst with randoms easy as i just drown them in bonus armor and can bring either reinforced smart cover or precision for my teammates to use

[strong cave]

whats depressing is i explained in great detail

[dreamy valve]

Anyone found mods for the Smart Cover skill yet from loot?

[flint spire]

I found a extra bonus armor mod
That's about it

[subtle bluff]

He won't see this response but there's armor, DTTooC and duration

[subtle bluff]

Striker chest here is a waste.

A full HE (high end) build would he tougher and have a easier time getting peak dmg.

[golden jackal]

MEASURED ASSEMBLY buid ?

[rich cosmos]

Theres a damage mod!??

Do we know how high it goes?

[feral anvil]

i dont know much numbers wise but you really think so? im running scorpio which shotguns always build striker stacks fast, and i also benefit from the rate of fire increase so i can get my debuffs/cc's out faster. ik making a build that can do heroic matchmaking content isnt hard, but ive been near, if not top damage in all of my missions. if you recommend high end, what build would you recommend

[neon jetty]

Just made my third build as a new player after a few days of trying out different stuff, this time around I have made a pure weapon build I copped off the internet, however I feel like this dies very very fast, any ideas on how to improve survivability? Or am i being delusional just because I played a more tanky playstyle for my first build (Foundrys mostly)

[cerulean smelt]

i got these 4 on 1 account. 2nd account got a duration

duration goes in the right hand side

[urban latch]

a crusader shield goes a long way for more survivability. If your using the chest swap out the LMG for an ACS12 and you can build stacks much faster. Or swap out the chest for something like a ceska chest with obliterate

playing with a red build takes some getting used to if all youve run is a tank, but your team will thank you for actually being able to contribute

other easy option for survivability is running the memento backpack, although if you run that definietly swap out the striker chest

[neon jetty]

I had a shield for the first few hours of playing, put compared to the tank build? That shit got melted off me faster than kraft cheese

[urban latch]

crusader shield + memento has a huge amount of survivability

[neon jetty]

allright! I will look into this, thank you very much

[tawdry raven]

Finally got the pakhan what's the best 3rd attribute to roll for?

[violet juniper]

DtA

[buoyant perch]

crit chance

[subtle bluff]

Some of me is saying because I compare everything mostly to it's hardest context leggo but in heroic it's w/e.
Look up the chest talent intimidate can you can see where I'm going with this. Then add in improvised with PFE mods and you're more balance in both getting dmg out and tough. You could also do other things.

[subtle bluff]

CHC
Come on @violet juniper

[strong cave]

to my knowledge, i think 10. i dont remember where i heard this info so definitely check if this is correct or not

[strong cave]

i concur with this

[rich cosmos]

For a skill thats just “sit on cover” that sounds very good

Like damn

[strong cave]

ive been running it on a FI healer (one used in incursion). its BUSTED. dark hours 1 shot buddy + lucy is about to go even crazier with smart cover

skill tier 6 and OC smart cover is beyond broken. very worthy to take

[rich cosmos]

My only problem rn is it doesn’t work with umbra

[violet juniper]

what? LMG's best roll is DtA

oh does Pakhan already have DtA

[strong cave]

lemme guess: pvp?

i mean you can use it with umbra you just wont get the rof buffs

[rich cosmos]

?

It doesn’t work unless you are on cover

Like you have to physically be in cover unless its just not showing the symbol

[strong cave]

you have to be in cover for smart cover to work. youll get the CHD from umbra by being in cover as well, but you wont get the ROF buffs until you step out of cover. which, will in turn, deactivate smart cover

it sorta works but the whole point of umbra is for the rate of fire

[onyx sage]

i thought you get neither chd nor rof while in cover

[strong cave]

lemme double check my statements

coulda swore i was getting CHD but not the ROF when in cover with umbra

[strong cave]

youre correct. i was wrong. i likely remembered wrong. yeah that definitely sucks smart cover will not work for umbra. sounds like using fortified will be worth it for umbra and not precision

[rich cosmos]

I was really hoping you were right for a moment

[strong cave]

me too 😭 my bad for the false hope

[rich cosmos]

Yea umbra is basically unusable with smart cover which absolutely sucks

[strong cave]

not entirely true, you can use fortified smart cover for the bonus armor while waiting for stacks. it is definitely worth it then if on a team

[rich cosmos]

Meh if Im building into the skill tiers for it Im using something else

[strong cave]

youd be better off with a sticky at that rate, correct. for me i run it as a damage variant

2 blues 4 reds

[half cosmos]

primary gun can be anuything was just testing

4 red 3 blue and 4 psudo yellow

while maintaining crit and damahe

[violet juniper]

He's a madman

but please remove Turmoil immediately

[half cosmos]

HAHAHAHAHHA i tested on heroic THATS NOT TERMOIL

[strong cave]

nah, let him cook and burn the kitchen down

😂

[half cosmos]

that is a cheska god rolled

[violet juniper]

thank god

[half cosmos]

gloves is a flex slot i just like the handeling

[strong cave]

honestly if youre gonna use a rifle i say just go high end rifle or run ravvy for funsies

[half cosmos]

this build was originally for ravy but it kicks like the wolfs it is

that is why the gloves is eagle grasps

so what do u guys think?

[violet juniper]

This is what I'm running until I can slot catalyst lol

[strong cave]

i cannot wait until tinkerer 😭 god the builds are gonna be broken

[zenith plover]

Looking for a build that buffs the team's damage any recos??

[cerulean smelt]

easiest? ongoing directive

[worn mango]

Agreed. Having a single OD in Countdown is so nice

[feral anvil]

when is tinkerer coming out? is it the climax mission reward??/

[worn mango]

Yes

[rich lotus]

Anybody know if Catalyst still procs off Backfire if you have 100% hazard resistance?

[violet juniper]

There'll be no tinkerer for a good 11 or so weeks

[violet juniper]

probably not, and you don't need 100% haz pro

80% is the breakpoint for bleed

[hasty sluice]

@subtle bluff can I get your hb build? I have a friend asking.

[peak tendon]

Can someone tell me a good tank build ?

I have scorpio too so i can add that to the tank build

[hasty sluice]

Heartbreakers is a good damage tank.

[tall ore]

New modifiers are great

[peak tendon]

Thx

[strong cave]

Proof?

[strong cave]

Don't recommend tank builds, as they put out little to no damage. You're better off running striker with 2 blues and a shield. Could even go with memento striker and play run & gun style. Hunters Fury can do the same thing. If you're a chad, HHF works too

[peak tendon]

I have a striker build but i don:t know what gun to use with it

[violet juniper]

headshot Regen is usually the best. If you run adrenaline rush and intimidate as your talents, with the Catharsis mask, you'll still do decent damage

[strong cave]

Literally any AR/LMG/SMG works. Lexington, St Elmo's, Eagle Bearer, Famas, P416, Pestilence, Iron Lung, L86A1, SMG-9, Ouroboros...

List goes on

Just use those weapons. Anything high end, go with Killer talent. Watch the damage go brrrr

Killing fast = survivability

[peak tendon]

Ok thx a lot

[peak tendon]

I dont have that mask

[violet juniper]

It's not needed, but it's a great piece to have

[strong cave]

Heartbreaker isn't a bad option but too many steps required to make it optimal. Striker will clear the room before heartbreaker matches the damage. Even if you had a good set of reds over blues

[peak tendon]

Wait i do have it my bad

[violet juniper]

This is what I use. In PvE it works just as well, but you may want to roll 4 blue cores and two red just to pump the damage up a bit

Rolls are headshot damage and hazpro

[peak tendon]

Im using this one . What do i change ?

[violet juniper]

Get rid of NBB

[subtle bluff]

Okay to explain this yes if you didn't need crit at all in your yes DTA is better but crit is a big part of our DPS. The less you need to stats into CHC and more CHD we can put into which in some cases depends on the builds is 12 or 24 CHD extra vs going 6% DTA

6% DTA vs 9.5% CHC
Our stats we can only roll/slot up to 6% CHC. We have a Contractor at 8%

[peak tendon]

What is nbb?

[violet juniper]

Run striker bag, with a Ceska chest piece, grupo mask or coyote mask, and everything else striker. NBB is Ninjabike Messenger Bag

[tardy socket]

hello, how i unlock the socket slot in the bench for my gear pls ( i never done a build im lost)

[peak tendon]

Oh ok

[violet juniper]

Keep pestilence if you like, it's a great weapon

you could try Iron lung too, if you like LMG's

[strong cave]

No grupo. Coyote only. Gives more CHD in close range. If bro doesn't have coyote, then and only then grupo mask

[violet juniper]

Grupo is a perfectly fine option.

you don't want to get close range with Striker unless you're running an SMG

But yes, Coyote is preferred

[strong cave]

13% grupo ≠ 25% coyote within close range which is where most encounters occur. Mid range is also common, still giving you 15%. Which is STILL more than grupo. If you're dying at close range with strikers, skill issue

[peak tendon]

Yeah i have it but i dont know which one is better

[violet juniper]

They're pretty even. Iron Lung does more up front damage

Pesti has different strengths

[strong cave]

Grupo should only be used when you don't have coyote. Coyote brings team buffs. As well as self buffs

[peak tendon]

I have coyote mask

[strong cave]

Use that over grupo

[worn mango]

They say it in the crossroads patch notes

[strong cave]

I'll give them a re-read ty. All I needed was a source 🔥💥

Patchnotes longer than a KVD build video

[sick sparrow]

I just started playing this game I’m lvl 38 and just starting the missions round the outside of the map so when and how can i get the striker gear?

[violet juniper]

Set it as targeted loot in Countdown (top right of the map)

[peak tendon]

Is this a good one ?

[violet juniper]

much better, but maybe swap the striker chest

[peak tendon]

I dont have caska chest

[violet juniper]

striker chest is really good if enemies are tanky enough that you can keep your stacks up, because the stacks go down much faster

so Incursion, Raid, Legendary is mostly where you'll use striker chest

[sick sparrow]

Thanks i’ll look at that when i get back on tomorrow

[violet juniper]

you'll have to farm a Ceska chest, but any DPS chest with the Obliterate talent will do until you get ceska

[peak tendon]

Ok thx a lot

[solar berry]

The live stream for crossroads

[dreamy valve]

hmm cool cool

[subtle bluff]

@violet juniper this was for your response earlier for dta vs CHC. Idk if you read it.

[tulip gulch]

Should I optimize this bag and chest or keep farming ? I modified the talents on both.

[subtle bluff]

Keeeeeeep and optimize! Unless you get lucky again. Those 2 are the pieces you want to farm for.

In my starter guide I'm working in says to farm Ceska for while to hopeful get or near this.

[rancid gulch]

is provocator good for a tank build?

[versed summit]

Tank builds aren’t really good so no

[rancid gulch]

so i should just run all red and not get hit?

[tired ermine]

Hello! New to the division 2 and just hit level 40 - any tips where I should go to or can point to the right direction? Lots of content which is a bit overwhelming. No new dlc yet - only have the warlords.

[solid sand]

First I'd say you want a basic build
Use challenging countdown and farm something using targeted loot (something like striker is basic but extremely potent)

[tired ermine]

Gotcha, not really looking for OP builds that takes time, just want to explore a bit with a goal not just running around like headless chickens lol.

[subtle bluff]

Pinned Messages gdoc.

[subtle bluff]

More or less but you can play with builds or look at the others.
Tanks aren't great because bullets do a lot of damage and they can shoot it a lot of them.

[zenith plover]

alright and any build recos or template??

what attribute should I aim for assult rifles??

[solar sable]

@hazy steeple

[hazy steeple]

That's a new one

Cheers doomz

[solar sable]

no worries

[rough thistle]

I see players with strikers kneepads crit 15% mine got 11,4% do I need to find different ones ?

[cerulean smelt]

make sure you got 15% in your library. you can probably recalibrate it to 15% if that's what you put on it or you can find another and put chc on it

[rough thistle]

Where can I do it ? @cerulean smelt

[hexed steppe]

lmg will give you a lot of bleed ammo , you get full mag with ongoing directive , 20% amp for team. with big mag you just keep reproccing more status and ammo for all

recommend carnage named lmg for od, secondary is preference.

[rich cosmos]

The new exotic mask is unlocked by farming the last dlc campaign boss right or is there something Im missing?

[gritty bramble]

Anyone got a good oxy raid build

[dense lynx]

Just got this beauty to drop from a tier 4 control point (st elmos engine)

[zenith plover]

what are the stats of the equips?

[solar sable]

it needs dtoc btw

[subtle bluff]

We only really use oxi in a few spot but mostly in speedruns. If you search my name for "oxi build" you'll find a guide for it.

[solar sable]

both crits

I assume CHD first then CHC

[rough thistle]

I need some help with builds cuz I don’t really understand much like if I look up a build on YouTube to get that build do I also need to use the library thing or can I just find everything like the ceska with obliterate

Like I want to do this

[solar sable]

Never ever use YT for build advice.

[rough thistle]

Bro i don’t even know what to do man

[solar sable]

Too many blue cores for pve

[rough thistle]

Mhmm do you have maybe a st Elmo build? Or just a build that I can use with the Elmo’s

[solar sable]

Regular strikers (red):
4pc Striker's
Ceska Obliterate
Coyote's

Attributes: Crit DMG (CHD) and Crit Chance (CHC)

that's the standard setup for striker's

there are a few variants of Striker's but it depends on the content

[gritty bramble]

Wdym

[solar sable]

but that one can pretty much take anything

The only thing to consider about red strikers is that you only rely on cover and positioning knowledge to survive

which isn't difficult to learn tbh

[timber dagger]

What would give max dps? Tinkerer with streamlined and strained and striker? With turmoil knees?

[rough thistle]

Kinda Chinees for me xD

[solar sable]

try it, it won't let you down

I love to use strikers with Iron Lung and Backfire, if you want to give it a try anytime

[rough thistle]

Mhm bro the thing is I trust u I wanna try but idk man builds destroyed my brain like can I just find everything or do I need to use the library thing for cores, talents cuz I don’t understand anything of that

[subtle bluff]

To what part?

[gritty bramble]

Searching your name

[subtle bluff]

Discord has a search function.

[gritty bramble]

Nothing pips up

[solar sable]

#td2-build-advice message

there

[subtle bluff]

Search oxi build

[solar sable]

why is people lazy to search bruv

[subtle bluff]

Oh Ty doomz

[rough thistle]

Creating build wasn’t that hard until I saw the recalibration library system

That just messed with my brain too much

[solar sable]

So, you extract attributes that you want to put into another gear piece that needs it. It's recommended to only extract those attributes that are maxed out. Perfect talents are the only ones that can't be extracted or any attribute that has a Golden shine

For example, DTOC from Fox's Knees cannot be extracted or modified

[rough thistle]

So if I want a ceska obliterate I NEED to find one with obliterate because talents can’t be extracted

[solar sable]

Talents that are not perfect versions can be extracted

[rough thistle]

Just imagine if my chest piece has a core attribute of 10% and 15% is max I can extract it from a other chest piece to max it out

[solar sable]

You would need to find a Ceska vest with either:

1. At least one crit from the ones I mentioned and Obliterate.
2. Both crits and talent can be swapped (most valuable piece)

If you get one with the second option details, you can set the talent freely to your desire, if you ever need something like Glass Cannon

[peak meadow]

Doomz?!

[solar sable]

What the hell is this

[peak meadow]

It is not only Legendary viable, it is unfortunately Legendary optimal, Doomz.

[rough thistle]

But is obliterate not better then anything else on ceska ?

[solar sable]

how can such a thing be leg optimal

[rough thistle]

So the first option is find a ceska obliterate with chd and chc

[solar sable]

it's BiS for striker's afaik

[peak meadow]

Glass Cannon is about the same as Obliterate, just you die instantly if someone breathes on you.

The good part is that you get a LOT of damage upfront, without the need for stacking.

Some players like that aspect and run Glass Cannon Vigilance

[solar sable]

you get it now, happy hunting

[subtle bluff]

Target Ceska farm up your library while looking for a Chest and Backpack for it

[rough thistle]

Aaand with that I can max out the cores ?

[peak meadow]

You need to watch more of my trash gameplay

[rough thistle]

I mean yeah I get it but I have a feeling that I still got to learn a lot

[subtle bluff]

You could break your rez PB

[solar sable]

a whole bunch of the things I know is because I stalked a lot of conversations from all three main channels here

[peak meadow]

I could if I tried really hard

[rough thistle]

I know what you mean

The only bad thing is I can’t grind countdown because I can’t find any games I need to do it on summit challenge

[subtle bluff]

let me just find a group that has 2 tanks in it lol

Just think of watching 2 Blue Core tanks get rez all the time by a skill core "tank"

Would be a meme for the ages.

[peak meadow]

At this point, I might be a better tank than actual six blue tanks

[subtle bluff]

lol

Are you max on PFE now?

[peak meadow]

I'm 72

But when I revive someone, I get 50% DR

[solar sable]

you could become a solo heroic countdown player anytime soon /s

[peak meadow]

I can stand and get shot by a Heavy, and just shrug it off

[solar sable]

you're awake when I'm asleep

[rough thistle]

@solar sable do you mean this with regular strikers?

Just red attributes