td2-build-advice

[subtle bluff]

Makes less sense... why skill haste...

[half cosmos]

Also darn did they buff ND and OD?

[tulip charm]

OD big buff

[solar sable]

to spam pulse on conflict

[tulip charm]

ND small buff

[half cosmos]

I got my hands on a vector sadist and tinkred dtoc and boiii its fast and deadly

[tulip charm]

pulse spamming on hb?

weirdo

[solar sable]

agreed

[half cosmos]

Why? I was running that just now XD

As u can see here

[tulip charm]

99% of the time your pulse comes from hs/laser pointer

[half cosmos]

Also sheesh i need to farm a cheska

[solar sable]

he was using uzina gloves

[half cosmos]

Fun fact i did not have the pointer cause dumb me did not unlock it

[tulip charm]

Please unlock it

[half cosmos]

I did

[tulip charm]

Are you still running hb backpack and not running chest?

[half cosmos]

Yes for now

[tulip charm]

lowkey trolling ngl. hb chest is pretty much bis.

[half cosmos]

Tried swapping for chest and even rolled it to red core to see the damage but i kept getting killed even in challenging so idk what i did

[rich cosmos]

Reformation is currently broken and doesn’t work

[tulip charm]

eh?

[half cosmos]

Reminds me so is umbra

I need to take 1 peice off then reequip for it to work per login idk why

[tulip charm]

Its a bug feature.

[subtle bluff]

again we're talking value for using Chill Out vs a brand set that can provide more value per stats. It's great with PFE because it's more important to get more PFE.

[tulip charm]

+5% armor alone is bad lol

[subtle bluff]

there's a mask that give 100% skil haste to scanner pulse...

[half cosmos]

Yes night watch i think? Is its name

[tulip charm]

yes

[half cosmos]

Can u share rest of build?

[tulip charm]

2-3m on scope?

[half cosmos]

Rn i am running it on a crit HB

[tulip charm]

that so low

[half cosmos]

And that's what i am pulsing with

[tulip charm]

?????????

[subtle bluff]

again ceska and grupo will give you more CHC or CHD than Chill Out can do with Skill mods.

[tulip charm]

I see...

[rich cosmos]

Im so unbelievably salty that the one time I go for a barely used talent that probably only one person is using it just doesn’t work at all

[tulip charm]

Man you can do so much more....

Why dont you just uses a sniper then

or you just like the gun

[rich cosmos]

Flatline kinda pointless here

?

[subtle bluff]

I was cooking a sniper tank build for fun/trolls. lol

[rich cosmos]

Flatline is not a crazy amount of damage compared to other damage talents plus you waste a mod slot on the linked laser

Memento is carrying hard

[vestal ibex]

Play style and having a worse build numbers wise are two different things...

[subtle bluff]

Again we're not say bad but better Value. Just like Lex vs Elmo. For dmg Lex is better value.

[rich cosmos]

Anyways is there a link somewhere I can send a bug report?

[onyx sage]

#unofficial-troubleshooting ?

[rich cosmos]

Lex is better in a lot of ways

[vestal ibex]

It's like saying 5 is less than 10 and then saying that impacts how you play the game....

[rich cosmos]

Not troubleshooting related

[onyx sage]

ah, maybe have to go to the ubisoft discord

[tulip charm]

No1 is saying its bad tho. It has a niche in pfe mods. theres better options if you're trying to put in a dps oriented build.

[vestal ibex]

Which is a factually incorrect statement.

[rich cosmos]

Reformation is broken and I need to report it, I thought they had a trello thing for reporting

[tulip charm]

No you have to go to forums

[vestal ibex]

"being worse is decent"

[onyx sage]

you guys don't understand, it feels FUN for me to use a different gear piece than the optimal one that won't change my gameplay whatsoever

[rich cosmos]

Link?

[subtle bluff]

Trello boards.

[patent fossil]

the ubisoft support discord is linked in the troubleshooting channel pins, you can report there

[vestal ibex]

Fun? It impacts your game play 0%.

[onyx sage]

it's fun for me to do less damage because i get to play the game more guys.

the enemies die too fast so i alt-f4 faster than i want to

[half cosmos]

Imma be yoinking this thanks

[vestal ibex]

This is an absoulute win and you have no idea why.

[half cosmos]

Also is that a pvp build?

[subtle bluff]

to this Lex does do more dmg period but Elmo still has it's uses.

[half cosmos]

Why not use shield splinter?

[vestal ibex]

But is the troll being trolled at this point...

[onyx sage]

i would NEVER troll on the internet, ever.

the tryhards in this chat need to chill out... amirite...

[vestal ibex]

I'd back peddle that route at this point too.

[subtle bluff]

my issue with that is your trying to give out ... not great advice with that statement.

[rich cosmos]

Okay, elmo takes up an exotic slot

Lex has variety because you can change the talent

[subtle bluff]

Elmo mods are easier for build numbers, 70 rd mag says it actually has more mag dmg and sustain DPS. The shock ammo can and will shock a targets in place.

Again pure dmg Lex wins hands down.

[rich cosmos]

Okay, but lexington is still better

In like, a large amount of ways

Elmo is quite literally only good because of how little effort you need

[subtle bluff]

Lex does better out right DPS..

What more am I not agreeing with you?

[rich cosmos]

Okay, and it has more versatility because it can use other talents

[subtle bluff]

For more dmg yes.

[rich cosmos]

It also can run stuff like linked laser

Its better for more reasons than just damage

Im not agreeing with him

[magic pilot]

He knows that lol

Chow how many incursion clears do you have now

[subtle bluff]

Elmo can make a target not take cover so you can kill it...

[magic pilot]

At least 5

[rich cosmos]

Yea and shooting an enemy hard enough can do that same thing

[subtle bluff]

I'll always say too much. Mayve I should more than anyone else needs to...

[vestal ibex]

Pls pass me

[subtle bluff]

And if you can't kill all of them at once?

[magic pilot]

You've been passed by a few people

[vestal ibex]

Really? I could swear I haven't moved.

[magic pilot]

You were 3-4th last I looked

Elmo is only better for ammo conservation and accuracy, those are its 2 pros

[vestal ibex]

Ammo conservation is the only reason I ever use an elmo.

[onyx sage]

el MoRevenge.

[subtle bluff]

Duo tanker depending on your duo...

[vestal ibex]

Even carring legendary missions it's nice.

Some sections you just can't grab ammo.

[subtle bluff]

Yuppp or to stop that dog or rusher.

[onyx sage]

i wish i had carries

[magic pilot]

Ew

[vestal ibex]

OH KAY THERE BUD

[rich cosmos]

How does achilles pulse work?

[magic pilot]

oh boy

[versed summit]

lots of nuance with it, but basically you use it, and it gives you a a part of the body to shoot that will take headshot damage

[subtle bluff]

Lot is putting it nicely. Marks a spot on the body if there's only a weak spot where you can only do dmg (Like some bosses) it'll mark that and ya it'll take HSD if it's on the head you'll do more HSD.

[magic pilot]

Expertise on Achilles gets interesting

^

[rich cosmos]

So kinda like vindicator but even more annoying?

Idk rn Im trying to figure out a new build, now that I have a genuinely working and good striker/healer I need to find some way to incorporate damage based skills into a damage build

[versed summit]

no. it pings specific limbs, and it's either for maximizing damage, like for a 1 shot, or killing something without a head on a one shot headshot build. as far as I undertstand

[rich cosmos]

Ahh

I feel like a simple buff would be just making it function like vindicator

[versed summit]

tbh you don't need damage skills utility skills are just as effective

[rich cosmos]

Okay, counterpoint, I want to, Im tired of skills that just serve only to boost my gunplay, I wants skills that add on to it

[versed summit]

I mean it's incredibly strong, and the way it works makes sense with how skill tiers interect with it. It's just niche

[rich cosmos]

I don’t mind weaker builds if its more fun

[versed summit]

boost and add are very similar

[rich cosmos]

Does it get affected by waveform? I wouldn’t assume it would but might as well ask

[versed summit]

no it doesn';t do damage itself

[rich cosmos]

Yea fair

Im trying to just brainstorm what pieces I could use to accomplish what I want

[versed summit]

sounds like you want a skill/dps hybrid?

[rich cosmos]

Yes but I have a personal preference of avoiding capacitor, Im more so just trying to fit skills into a build rather than relying on them, my current idea is maybe using umbra since it has easy access to damage and crit chance, then trying to find a skill brand set for a vigilance backpack

What other backpack talents involve skills and damage?

[versed summit]

there's not really any good combo backpack talents. perfect overclock could be useful depending what you're doing

[rich cosmos]

I guess vigilance it is

[fresh fox]

if you are gonna use achilles bring a dodge city

[rich cosmos]

Whats the talent on dodge city?

Isn’t it pistol or swap related

Idk probably won’t use achilles, seems too annoying to bother with

[fresh fox]

yea but with how it works with achilles it can lead to a bunch of damage

[subtle bluff]

achilles is singlehanding the highest dmg skill in the game. In a dumb way.

[foggy raptor]

Hi, can the Lengmo mask, gloves, backpack, carpeter, holster and kneepads set have both attributes at the same time a chance for critical hit damage and critical hit change?

[rich cosmos]

That poor red bar

[hazy steeple]

The way it works, is that a brandset (gold piece) has a base starting "core", and 2 random attributes. The 2 attributes are more likely to be the same colour as the "core", but can be other colours too.
so tl;dr: yes, you can get double red on a Lengmo.

[foggy raptor]

thanks

[static orbit]

Hey, is the "status effect" stat worth building on an Ongoing Directive build? Idk how effective the stat actually is

[rich cosmos]

Not really no

More so because bleed isn’t as strong as other status effects

[static orbit]

Oh. So if I was building a firestarter build or something with Eclipse Protocol, status effect would be good?

[subtle bluff]

It use to be. It still can for a support build. It's worth now with Sadist and Chest giving more dmg out.

[rich cosmos]

Yes

[subtle bluff]

The bleed is actually pretty strong then add Vile and some status effect stats it's pretty good. But this is for group play more than solo doing it this way.

[rich cosmos]

Well yea but the more important thing with od is the damage from hollowpoint rounds

[subtle bluff]

If you're using Sadist and the chest yes it is. But if not making a support build the Bleed can and will tick for a lot.

Without both Sadist and Chest you can easily get the bleed to do more dmg than your weapon.

[static orbit]

I was just farming for OD and Vile happened to drop, so I was wondering if investing into the bleed status was worth. I always wanted to try a status effect build, but it sounds like Eclipse Protocol is more the way to go

[subtle bluff]

I love my EP build but it's only good up to Solo Heroic even then Solo Heroic can be really hard it.

[subtle bluff]

But yes Vile, 4pc EP Chest and Backpack and last piece something with skill teir w/status effect brand bonus. Everything rolled to Status effect. Fire Chem Launcher and Sticky

[static orbit]

That's what you use? Is it effective in Legendary with a team of 4?

[versed summit]

Bleed is kind of mid as a status so it’s mostly just for OD.

You can run vile on OD for an off meta tick damage setup though.

[static orbit]

It sounds like OD is used just for the hollow-point damage bonus

[versed summit]

Fire isn’t very effective in legendaries, because of enemy resistances, but it’s good up to heroic

[versed summit]

And sadist

But basically

[static orbit]

Right

[broken edge]

Bleed as source of damage isnt good investment

if you want to focus on dot damage then fire is better, and OD main bonus is the hollow point amp damage

[subtle bluff]

Make want to make that build again. lol but it was only good with a decent team.

[static orbit]

Well thanks for the advice all, appreciate it :)

[glossy scarab]

finally. countdown came through where months of crafting wouldnt

[subtle bluff]

Damn nice

[half cosmos]

Ooh thats a darn good roll

Also it seems even oblitrate got nerfed?

[molten thorn]

yeah five less stacks

[subtle bluff]

Yes it got nerf lil

[half cosmos]

Man my entier 3 weeks of grinding a usable cheska before the update down the drain lmao

Cheska obli got tanked a bit

But i think its a bit weaker still useable

[subtle bluff]

Only by five. It still BiS for striker.

[half cosmos]

I will be honest i have a striker set and all but i dont like it

Its too easy lets say i use it for the rare times i go legendary or in count down but otherwise i would rather go negotiator OD or even umbra

Also this reminds me i need a decent tech build

[subtle bluff]

I don't use Strikers in normal play much anymore too. I do use it where I need to around like incursion and sometimes when I do CD even then I don't use it.
It's still best DPS in the end.

This game is really a lot to do with playstyle for PvE for Raids stuff maybe different for stuff.

[half cosmos]

Thats why i am trying to make a decent heart breaker

And turns out I MSSED IT UP CAUSE i was supposed to slot in red cores and rank up the chd chc with resources

[tulip charm]

4 blue hb is already good for everything except raids

All you need is a good ceska vigi backpack and coyotes and you’re solid

[half cosmos]

I got cayoti but the chest to be HB is not something i like

[tulip charm]

How come? Hb chest gives more damage and bonus armor.

Best of both worlds. Not sure how it stacks against obliterate tho.

[half cosmos]

No idea took it to tidal got my ass handed to me

Swaped to nego took everything with a pulse down in 1 mag

Also i still feel like nego does do bonus damage to marked enemies that u tag if u hit them as well

[onyx sage]

no, the one you shoot doesn't also take the tagged damage

because that just means you deal double damage to them when you crit

[devout sonnet]

@onyx sage just saw your latest run, do you not use modifiers? Should I not use them when in legendary?

[onyx sage]

they can make it more complicated. i recommend just turning them off and get used to them the normal way first

[devout sonnet]

Ok thanks, tidal basin was pain with them on...

[jolly sapphire]

is pvp capacitor still worth it ( build )

[subtle bluff]

The meta is BH right now.

[jolly sapphire]

u got one?

[subtle bluff]

Yes?

[jolly sapphire]

can u send it on

pls

[subtle bluff]

Sorry what?

[jolly sapphire]

send the build

[subtle bluff]

My is some dumb HB build. It would be the same as capacitor just do HSD and regen.

[onyx sage]

new PB, feeling gladge

[lost wren]

man i need to get bighorn

i'm fairly new to the game, only got it a few weeks ago
need to keep in touch with what builds to run and go for

[celest schooner]

Im fairly new to the game as well just got to level 40 playing everything on normal mode as I finished up the story and I don’t even know what guns to look for haha. I’ve always been a assault gunner on Divison 1.

[lost wren]

here's what i was recommended by people i played with, at least for pvp

[celest schooner]

Yeah I barely got any exotics or classifieds just a bunch of golds at level 40 lol

[magic pilot]

Yea not bad

pvp guide

[lost wren]

?

[magic pilot]

It's a guide, the link is just ridiculous

[lost wren]

lol

[lost wren]

here's something else i've been trying to cook up, but i need more blue cores

[magic pilot]

I'd work on a fenris or grupo holster

Then start going for chest/ bp

[magic pilot]

run ceska holster if you want eff.

[lost wren]

eff?

[tulip charm]

efficient

[magic pilot]

Tbh I would run EB as a secondary now

Unless you wanna keep pocket shock ammo

[lost wren]

don't have eb

[magic pilot]

Are you in the Reddit division 2 discord

[lost wren]

no

[magic pilot]

I'll send you an invite, corpsemaker_ is in there running DH rn, he has the most clears in the world

[lost wren]

oh ok

[magic pilot]

I'd shoot him a message or @ him in the lfg tab to see if you can run one next

But yea anyways, build looks pretty good

[wind plinth]

Dang, that shii is fire

[wind plinth]

I think decent rifles are snipers and suppressed ARs.

[magic pilot]

It's decent

[lost wren]

speaking of bighorn

@magic pilot
what's the attribute i should roll for?

[versed summit]

dtooc

[lost wren]

kk

[magic pilot]

bro im praying you get that out lmao

[lost wren]

i did

[magic pilot]

i dont think you know how rare that is

[lost wren]

oh i know
0.024% dc i think

[magic pilot]

GG

[lost wren]

i got myself a ravenous not even a few days ago from the dz

[magic pilot]

what the

[lost wren]

from 12/1

[versed summit]

wtf

[lost wren]

a little bit funny as how lucky i am

now the main question is how to i build for bighorn

[magic pilot]

i sent earlier

[lost wren]

oh yeah that

what are the mods?

headshot damage and?

[fresh fox]

just headshot

[lost wren]

oh mods are headshot
but what about the attributes?

[magic pilot]

hazpro

[fresh fox]

haz pro

[lost wren]

gotchaa

[celest schooner]

Any suggestions on top assault guns to target?

[tulip charm]

Do you have lexi?

[celest schooner]

@tulip charm Yeah but I got very early at like level 20 in story mode

[magic pilot]

you should have another in your mailbox

[empty rune]

Hey does anyone have a good fiero build?

[jolly sapphire]

atm PVP shouldnt be ur priority bro.

[lost wren]

i know

[jolly sapphire]

In a few weeks 541 SHD???

were u grinding all day or sm

if u get ur hands on coyotes or catharsis

switch it and put ur chest as striker

look heres my elmo build

prof matter's in DZ , in conflict it does not

and btw BH is current meta? i believe.

just run summit

[onyx sage]

least lucky player in this discord

[blazing brook]

just got coyote's mask twice on the same server lol

dz loot btw

[lost wren]

5x xp weekend for thanksgiving

[magic pilot]

i went up 1100 levels during the 5x weekend

[lost wren]

went from 170 to 541

shit’s funny

[magic pilot]

i have a friend who did shd 0-1000 in a week just running CP with hotshot determined

the leveling in this game is faster than most people realize

[lost wren]

quick question how much sleep do they get per night

[jolly sapphire]

i wonder how

[magic pilot]

how i did it? open world

[jolly sapphire]

how long did it take

[magic pilot]

he wasnt sleeping much tbh, he was on 10 hours a day

[magic pilot]

i finished an hour before the 5x ended

so like 3 days

[jolly sapphire]

wtf

STRAIGHT?

[magic pilot]

no lmao

like 6 hours of playing a day

i did the first 1/3 only doing legendary missions

[jolly sapphire]

dz better

like 100 landmarks and ur like 600 shd

LOL

[magic pilot]

eh yes and no

i was running shd exposed

so i had over 1200 stars

level up and challenges

[lost wren]

still can't believe my luck with dz
dunno how and why

[strong spindle]

just started, anyone have some skill builds that i could work towards to?

[broken edge]

Check pins at #td2-build-advice

[jolly sapphire]

anyone got a good cap build

that i could borrow😼

[solar sable]

wdym cap build?

[onyx sage]

capacitor build

but he already got his answer in the community discord

[fresh fox]

#compton

[lost wren]

did some runs

😎

[magic pilot]

W

[lost wren]

rolled for hsd

[magic pilot]

Get Dtooc

[lost wren]

does eagle bearer have dtooc?

thought it didn't have the ability to roll for that

[tulip charm]

It does

[onyx sage]

every exotic can have flex 3rd attribute now

[lost wren]

cool

[dreamy valve]

I think Acosta kneepads are still locked

Cause I haven’t seen one drop

[onyx sage]

sorry meant exotic weapon

[onyx sage]

probably they forgot to add to loot pool

[fresh fox]

yea it’s not in it

same with collector

[versed summit]

Nah they reroll, last I checked. Stupid centurion doesn’t tho

[dreamy valve]

Where did you find one

[versed summit]

Cache probably

From season track one time

I don’t really look for it tho

[tulip charm]

yeah centurion is fixed attribute

acosta knees can reroll but its always a red blue

[fresh fox]

should have been the same fpr centurion...

#chcchdforcenturions

[tulip charm]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Surely the devs will make exotic gears attribute rerollable

Copium

[onyx sage]

red catharsis

yellow coyote

[tulip charm]

I would love a red swayers

[onyx sage]

red waveform

[tulip charm]

Red btsu

[onyx sage]

yellow dodge city

[tulip charm]

blue imperial dynasty

[fresh ibex]

I just came back after not playing for a looooooong ass time. Should I delete my inventory and start fresh? Idk where I even left off. Last time I played was like the first season. And even then I’m having a hard time remembering.

[tulip charm]

Level or shd?

[fresh ibex]

8 lol

😂

[onyx sage]

just keep playing lol

you haven't even finished the story

[fresh ibex]

No I mean SHD 8.

Beat story and everything, world is in challenge difficulty

[onyx sage]

then you would be starting over for no reason

you would literally end up back in the same place

now just focus on farming the most common builds, like striker

countdown challenging is the best place for that. hit up the pinned spreadsheet here for the build guides

[fresh ibex]

Ah gotcha. Thank you. Cuz I jumped up to the highest difficulty and I’m not doing any damage

[onyx sage]

that's cuz you need a build

[fresh ibex]

Sweet. Thank you!

[onyx sage]

there are a few builds to farm, along the way you'll be getting levels, and once you get a solid build going do control points on either challenging on heroic to get blueprints. try to play the game enough so you're comfortable for heroic

[tulip charm]

I dont get why newer/inexperience players love to jump into heroic/leg when they just started...

[fresh ibex]

Yea I think I jumped in heroic way too soon. I just remember doing really good a before I dropped the game. But yea, it’s like trying to relearn riding a bike. Have to get use to the control layout again

[fresh ibex]

I got too overconfident thinking my past self had a good enough build to be able to do it

[magic pilot]

This is gonna sound bad but it's probably not a build issue

As much as a skill issue

[onyx sage]

he's shd 8, it's highly likely to be both

[magic pilot]

I mean that in the nicest way possible

Once you learn how the enemies behave on heroic you can run basically anything. you'll get it down

[tulip charm]

Normal to Challenge/sometimes Heroic is just gear check.

[magic pilot]

Also your build is probably been completely changed since you last played, depending on how long ago it was

[tulip charm]

I mean it sounds like he played during gear 1.0 when wt was endgame

[magic pilot]

I'd be curious to see how his stash looks tbh

[tulip charm]

xd

[magic pilot]

I wonder what he's got cooking in there, maybe a god rolled matador lol

[fresh ibex]

I think I did get to 2.0. I played warlords of New York, is that where it was?

[magic pilot]

gear 2.0 started with wony yea

[lost wren]

?

[jolly sapphire]

St elmos better with this

[lost wren]

damn

[jolly sapphire]

seriously

[magic pilot]

For PvP? No

[jolly sapphire]

conflict yes

[magic pilot]

It's even worse in conflict, you can't stack on npcs

[jolly sapphire]

cause hes not gonna be running DZ js yet

[jolly sapphire]

npcs?

[magic pilot]

He's literally in the Dz in that pic

[jolly sapphire]

oh yeah i forgot they added SHD brackets lol

@lost wren go screw some shiz up in the dz

[lost wren]

ye lol

[jolly sapphire]

wait pulse?

[lost wren]

yeah decoy's better

[jolly sapphire]

personally dont use neither unless im using HB or my oreo build

but majority of my shiz is outdated so.

[lost wren]

only thing i don't like on this setup is the kinda low dmg

but it's not horrid

[magic pilot]

That's why you got striker

[lost wren]

true

[jolly sapphire]

time to grind 100 hours for like 15 prof

[lost wren]

here's striker obliterate

[ebon sapphire]

lexington ftw

[jolly sapphire]

when did u get EB btw

[lost wren]

earlier today lol

[jolly sapphire]

lexington is a pain in the ass to deal with

[jolly sapphire]

raid?

[lost wren]

also got the bighorn earlier today as well, from the dz

[magic pilot]

pvp builds

[lost wren]

ye

[jolly sapphire]

u got carried?

[magic pilot]

Corpsemaker_ lol

[lost wren]

kinda? i was able to hold my own

[jolly sapphire]

oh yeah forgot he's running it practically everyday

well congrats on it

[magic pilot]

Over 11k

[lost wren]

right now i'm just farming for either a heartbreaker bighorn setup or an armor regen bighorn

[jolly sapphire]

HB

tryout a HB setup might suit u

[magic pilot]

Regen ftw

[magic pilot]

Not the worst build I've seen tbh

[jolly sapphire]

vere reassuring

[magic pilot]

I don't like running the chest tho

[jolly sapphire]

i mean it works and it annihilates

[magic pilot]

I'd rather have efficient

[jolly sapphire]

preference

[magic pilot]

Once your bonus armor gets shredded you don't get anymore till the stacks decay

[jolly sapphire]

i got it off crypt on YT

[magic pilot]

He's in this discord too, hangs out in PvP chat

[jolly sapphire]

@obsidian haven

him?

[magic pilot]

He's probably sleeping, yea

[jolly sapphire]

oh shit i watch his videos when im bored

funny asf but yeah got the build off his video

[magic pilot]

i was trying with matador but im probably gonna swap back to catharsis

[lost wren]

everyday i regret dismantling the matadors i'd find in countdown

[lost wren]

thinking it wasn't good

[magic pilot]

Can't get it from countdown so your fine

[strong cave]

That's not a bad setup but not having the backpack or chest feels like a sin

[lost wren]

weird
i remember getting them from there

might've been summit though

[magic pilot]

Crypt runs this with Gila instead of Walker

[strong cave]

Named item caches

[magic pilot]

It's PvP or cache only

[strong cave]

Would love to know his reasoning

[jolly sapphire]

Ik but like i need to hurry my ass to grinding to get it but im too lazy

but it still shreds like a mtf

[magic pilot]

The extra health

[jolly sapphire]

I was running a manhunt with a clan

i was MELTING

[magic pilot]

Generally I don't like HB overall anyway 🤷‍♂️

[strong cave]

Oh yeah extra armor and health. It's beneficial all around in pvp

[jolly sapphire]

I don't see alot of hunters fury now a days

I used to base all of my builds

on it

[strong cave]

Kills require stacks unlike strikers

It's ass for pvp with zero stacks

[magic pilot]

Yea that's cause it's kinda mid

I did testing on it, can send here shortly

[tulip charm]

For pvp?

[jolly sapphire]

PVE

[magic pilot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15ZSQxcMcRGxa05SlI3XyaQl9OF0Qorpk7ZYwv2r8YFc/edit?usp=sharing

builds are linked at the bottom

[magic pilot]

i meant pvp

[strong cave]

In PvE hunters fury isn't terrible but strikers overall is just easier

[tulip charm]

Oh pvp hf is such a troll

[strong cave]

Once you get stacks it shreds just like strikers

[magic pilot]

HHF is my go-to general use build

[jolly sapphire]

wait can u get matador in summit

[magic pilot]

caches only

[jolly sapphire]

named caches?

[strong cave]

DZ / conflict / vendor / named caches only

[tulip charm]

Well yeah hf with stacks shred just as fast as striker

[magic pilot]

yes, it might be in legacy as well

[strong cave]

Correct

[magic pilot]

cant remember

[strong cave]

Got a few myself

[magic pilot]

i cant get the damn loot goblin to spawn, my poor rng

[strong cave]

Wonder if they fixed him

[ebon sapphire]

seen him 3 times in summit

[magic pilot]

nah its still in, just saw someone get dtooc harvest from him

[strong cave]

Would love to maybe get the cooler rifle? I definitely need that

[magic pilot]

i got one with dtooc lol

rof probably best

[strong cave]

I want it for my pvp healer builds for the bonus hazpro 👀

That would be nasty asf for a sidearm

[jolly sapphire]

time to be an arscloch and make a pesti build

[strong cave]

Flatline LLP primary, cooler secondary, Kard TDI pistol

[jolly sapphire]

[strong cave]

True Patriot or Lengmo + Petrov

[magic pilot]

pve

[strong cave]

Could even go umbra or striker. I like true Patriot for mag size and ammo. The rof on pestilence feels incredible and something about dumping so much ammo is satisfying

[lost wren]

SPEAKING of matador

[strong cave]

Your armor bar finnn look like a snack size KitKat bar due to glass cannon lol

[magic pilot]

decent one

[magic pilot]

everything is dead lol

[strong cave]

It's junk in my opinion. Double crit and swap out the core

[lost wren]

mid rolls but it's good for crit ig

[magic pilot]

its acceptable for your lvl

[strong cave]

Ye it's not terrible don't get me wrong, I personally prefer swapping out the core with that and leaving it double crit. it's easier to slot that bag in on certain builds that way

[lost wren]

yeah that'd be ideal

blue cores my beloved

[magic pilot]

the pvp guide is just full of unicorns lol

[strong cave]

My unicorn is my Wyvern chest with Armor (rolled), status effects, crit chance, unbreakable

I've crafted thousands of wyvern chests, nothing. Go to play a match of countdown, dropped instantly

[tulip charm]

Bruh

[lost wren]

with newly slotted matador

[strong cave]

I left the countdown after picking it up, got off the game, and had to remind myself that the universe works in weird ways

[strong cave]

I miss being your SHD level

[lost wren]

got the game a few weeks ago

went from 170 to 500+ during the xp event

good times

[strong cave]

Dudes grinding hella, happy you're enjoying it. I'm shd 13.5k 😲

[magic pilot]

you are killing me with no ceska lol

[lost wren]

a few friends recommended it to me

[magic pilot]

run ceska knees

[lost wren]

oh is fox's prayer worse?
gotcha

1 less blue core mfw

[strong cave]

Fox's gives you dttoc yes but you'd get more damage just taking ceska so you don't waste a precious mod slot for crit damage. Most damage in pvp comes from crit, do know that

Exceptions are skills and headshot builds of course

[strong cave]

3 blues is still viable, I run vigi type build for it and it rips

[magic pilot]

its not that its worse but you basically only want 2 named/ exotic items with fixed attributes. 3 with an exotic smg, and 4 with a high end smg

these include: catharsis, fox, contractors, picaros, hollowman

[lost wren]

i do have a picaro's

but i don't think it'll replace my groll red grupo

this thing

stats so far

[strong cave]

If you want I can give you a build that absolutely Rips and it works amazing with your eagle bearer

You'll still have 1.4-1.5m armor with lots of damage

[lost wren]

by all means
though i'm currently trying to go for a bighorn setup

[strong cave]

Can even clear PvE content too

[strong cave]

Bighorn works on this build as well, if you're ballsy enough

[lost wren]

let's see it

[magic pilot]

yea dont

gloves, chest and holster can be moved around. you can run fox or contractors it doesnt really matter, whichever you get

doesnt have to be 6 blue either. 4-5 is fine

[tulip charm]

Oh yeah I was gonna ask what’s currently the go to combo now that picaros got nerf

Contra foxes?

[magic pilot]

if you arent using catharsis yes.

guide is updated too btw

[lost wren]

tasty looking build

if only my rng for armor/gear pieces was as good as the rng for my weapon drops

[molten thorn]

Is this dz or conflict (or both idk)

[magic pilot]

dz, for conflict just drop fox for another walker

[molten thorn]

I've got 4/6 for the build that Rogue Gold was recommending on his channel and wondering if i should stop trying to farm out the last two or will it do fine? That build looks like this https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/CwVgtAzAnG4ExgIxLsMAGDXM+9gXNGAhMWeLpXpfogiUmRABzVtXr7DKJqnId27QgHYmZQZOr5USUqQRSlGGVghje-UEmBpeANmFwImNPoFCayyfhGELSwmmtA

I know i know, youtube builds

[strong cave]

https://mxswat.github.io/mx-division-builds/#/IwVgtKYMxgTHYAMSXLajiBcAOBNgFZD1TNUtZl4D88yHMsoA2fCcxrrAFjZ+Qx4XTk1bthokWkpge0AOwQeBHuGA95Gtg17hwyYPCrQ2CgJydKKiODbq8LQjnpMWWI8og6rS4IWBpIA

My own scanner pulse build sorta setup. Can slap pretty much anything on it and it rips. Could even throw obliterate or glass cannon and it shreds

[tulip charm]

oh so foxes = contra > picaros at this moment? (excluding ninja umbra)

[strong cave]

We lose 5% weapon damage which imo was a dumb change

[tulip charm]

xd

[lost wren]

i did actually get this groll walker and harris kneepads

wondering if i should use this

[strong cave]

Roll armor asap

[lost wren]

turns out the ceska's chc was overkill

[strong cave]

How many crit damage mods do you have

[lost wren]

6

1 for each piece

[strong cave]

I mean mod slots on mask, chest and bag

[magic pilot]

i commented on this video lol

its fine, just drop the second walker for ceska

[magic pilot]

fox= contractors > picaros

[magic pilot]

something is not rolled right

or you have a chc mod

[lost wren]

here was my ceska

[magic pilot]

go to stats, take a pic of what is boosting your chc

[strong cave]

But what about the mod slots on your chest, mask and backpack???

You must have a chc mod on

[lost wren]

ohhhh
i do have chc on chest and backpack

that explains it

[strong cave]

EB should have about 15 crit chance mod, watch should give you about 20 crit chance. 6 chc times 6 is 36%. Your chc should be well above 50% where you shack chd everywhere including mods

Math shows you have a chc mod on

LOL

Yes I left out ceska buff I know

[magic pilot]

basically, ceska gives 8% chc which sounds worse than grupo 13% chd, but ceska ends up giving more chd since you can swap 2 mods to chd

[strong cave]

^^ this.

[strong cave]

Good example is striker. People assume crit damage gives more, which is wrong. Why waste chc mods for an extra chd bonus worth only 1 mod slot when you can stack more chc and get back double crit damage?

[lost wren]

rip extra blue core
was excited to use the harris and walker kneepads lol

[magic pilot]

your setup rn is perfect, just get 1-2 more blue core

[lost wren]

ceska or matador with blue core would be nice

[strong cave]

Ceska knees are easy to get blue

[tulip charm]

thank you math guy

[magic pilot]

matador will probably be last thing you blue core unless rng blesses you again

but you are probably out of luck now lol

[lost wren]

been pretty lucky all day,

countdown here we go

[strong cave]

My luck ran out when sys corr bag dropped in MMR targeted on a landmark

[lost wren]

aaaaaaand we got it

[magic pilot]

ill just logout for the day, you got the rng

[lost wren]

lol

and just like that, we got it

[fresh fox]

fenris holster tho 👀👀

[lost wren]

i think i've had enough today lmao
got a really good haul

[magic pilot]

grupo-fenris proably super close

[lost wren]

would fenris be better or is my grupo good enough?

[jolly sapphire]

wait are you grinding these items or u getting carried

cause how tf r u getting these fast asf.

[lost wren]

grinding

[fresh fox]

none of those are hard to get

[magic pilot]

It's almost the same, I can test if you really want

[lost wren]

eagle bearer i was half-carried for

[jolly sapphire]

Ik but getting an item you WANT seems to be a pain for me

[fresh fox]

just you brah

[jolly sapphire]

realistically fully , u were sent to the top right corner

at the end

[lost wren]

i was sent to the first launcher thingy

[magic pilot]

I mean no? Someone had to play each position no matter what

[jolly sapphire]

yeah but im talking about far right position , u kill the 2 enemies and armoured once in a few mins

[fresh fox]

well someone has to do it

[jolly sapphire]

FAR LEFT

[magic pilot]

Yea it's overwatch

[jolly sapphire]

sorry i meant far left.

[fresh fox]

and you won’t put the goats in the squad up there

[jolly sapphire]

yeah, it is the easiest tho.

[magic pilot]

4 of the players are on overwatch for razorback

So half the raid got carried gg

[fresh fox]

it’s true…

[lost wren]

but yeah for the rest of the stuff i farmed for

[fresh fox]

without them the raid would be just as easy…

[lost wren]

bighorn i got completely unprompted from the dz

[magic pilot]

Just get rid of the last 4 at the end

[lost wren]

rngesus was just on my side today

[covert meadow]

What would be a good 1 tapping build for open world/missions/summit all directives? Heroic/legendary?

[broken edge]

determined hotshot

[covert meadow]

Ok ty I'll start to build it

[hexed steppe]

this or possibly a 3pc hotshot utilizing habs unicorns

this much easier to farm

[covert meadow]

Is that a scapel looks deadly @hexed steppe

[hexed steppe]

its m700 carbon, it ans sr-1 have about the same damage, mag reload, good attachment points

top damage will be whitedeath named or model 700 (wood stock)

last 2 are single bullet reload and missing an attachment point

[covert meadow]

Basically I was hsd and handling?

Want*

[hexed steppe]

yeah, utilize stability mods first on the weapon, then roll handling till you get to 100% stability, then all has

100% stability means no scope swap when ads

[covert meadow]

Ah ok I was thinking opposite lot to learn still

I basically been running the skill build, it has damage but I feel like something like this would prolly help level up with more pop and not over ran as much

[hexed steppe]

all good, the build i posted has mode handling rolls since it was before the mod rebalance, so i use a optimal range muzzle and a 30% stability grip. it doesnt matter too much how ya get there tbf

[hexed steppe]

determined is capable of chaning body shots as headshots after the first legit headshot kill. youll have to keep an eye on what youre targetting, especially in legendary. anything with a helmet eats the proc and youll need a cold headshot kill again like first kill

you might also get some involuntary head sway trying to decipher all my typing errors

[covert meadow]

Lol

@hexed steppe I'm actually following pretty good 👍 lol now I didn't know about the helmet proc that's gonna make those black tusk sticky!

[hexed steppe]

yeah, itll stun them for a second so if you can hit them immediatly a lot of times you cab pick it right back up. something like a warhound will give determined proc back after if explodes but youll lose the headhunter bonus until you make another kill

determine proc guaranteed the next body shot as headshot
headhunter proc is what gives the massive damage

with this seasons modifiers on, the above build is hitting somewhere around 37mil top end

[covert meadow]

Whew

37 M! My goodness

[hexed steppe]

expertise helps, solidly build with no expertise or modifiers you should be getting close to 25-30mil

its all or nothing tho, have a good backup. i personally like elmo because its really stable already and can laser heads in a pinch

[covert meadow]

Elmo by far is my favorite gun in this game has down, that Lexington is pretty cool to but elmo is my fav

I can only imagine your build with elmo, that's pretty bad arse!

[hexed steppe]

my daily drivers are nego dps, or mortar skill

but yeah, i agree, elmo really good. tbf i havent given lex a fair shake. but elmo is a laser 100%

[covert meadow]

Oof!! Dang man both those look solid!!! I gotta get to building these! Lol

The negotiater i need 60 chc and as much dmg as possible?

[hexed steppe]

there is also a spreadsheet pinned in this channel. there are a lot of tested builds

yeah, nego you want right at max , maybe 50 with coyote

i run max regardless

[covert meadow]

And not sure what that grenade one is but looks sick!

[hexed steppe]

its mortar. the yello grupo and yello sacrifice are unicorns

[covert meadow]

I have a coyote mask forsure

[hexed steppe]

you can use 3 empress, 1 china , 2 hanna with tech support/perfect combined arms bag, and glass chest

can drop hanna for wyvern btsu if you wanted to use the gloves

[covert meadow]

Ok so this is not really a skill, this mortar prolly destroys everything

[hexed steppe]

it does if stacked. def skill build and squishy af 😂

[covert meadow]

I got a btsu glove earlier but it wasn't maxed need so updating

[hexed steppe]

like 10mil mortar strikes with full capacitor stacks, proc combined arms. 13mil mortar if oc and all stacked

[hexed steppe]

isnt even necessary, its just for oc, and haste is the only used attribute on them

[covert meadow]

That's why I wanted more pop lol cause I'm getting blasted with that skill

[hexed steppe]

yeah no doubt.

[covert meadow]

Ok cool haste and damaged

Damage *

[hexed steppe]

yeah, mortar utilises total/regular skill damage, explosives damage, and damage to armor to improve the damage, status effects would improve the bleed but not worth

haste good on all skill builds

[covert meadow]

These game is addictive man lol so many builds endless pow pow!! Lol

I'm excited to work on these though

[hexed steppe]

definitely in depth builds. feel free anytime to post an image and get solid community feedback

its sometimes strong, but aimed at making your build better 💯

[covert meadow]

I sure will and appreciate the help man! Happy early holidays to ya!

[hexed steppe]

same, agent

[covert meadow]

Salute 🫡

[round zinc]

ignoring the need to constantly run damage talents, is clutch ok as a talent on its own?

[broken edge]

Its just kinda okay to meh, healing skills thats need kills amd crits

[mint axle]

By the way, what is the maximum %skill damage we can have in a build if we mess with all the brands? (only attributes).

[fresh fox]

3pc empress 2pc hana u 1pc wyvern

off the top of my head

[blazing brook]

im thinking about creating a striker + coyote's mask build

is it worth it?

[fresh fox]

very worth it

[blazing brook]

alr i just need 2 more striker pieces then

[versed summit]

With wyvern being kinda mid now Waveform is a pretty good option. Depends on use case tho

[fresh fox]

idk he just asked for max skill damage with just brands

that’s how i took his question atleast

[summer harbor]

I have 4 set of striker what’s best gear for the other 2 slots

[junior surge]

I almost always use ceska, and then coyotes, grupo, contractors or maybe a palisade piece depending on what I am going for.

[blazing brook]

so my striker + coyote's mask build turned out like this

wish I had more expertise but ok

[subtle bluff]

Get a ceska for the last piece

and a acs12

[blazing brook]

ngl i actually liked this striker build, insane dmg

[summer harbor]

Someone send some AR dmg builds

[broken edge]

you can check pins

[tulip charm]

Youll like it even more when you optimize it

[blazing brook]

i agree

i might as well go lexington + ravenous if im lucky with the drop

[tulip charm]

Dont run ravenous. You definitely need that acs-12 if you want to run chest.

Rav is good but only in certain areas

[onyx sage]

or run a close range weapon like smg or shotgun

[velvet beacon]

full red crit chance/crit dmg and ceska or sombra depends on your crits

[tulip charm]

Ceska is king

Even with smg after the change

[blazing brook]

alright

thanks yall

[velvet beacon]

and acs-12 shotgun for secondary

for building stacks

[blazing brook]

just like the showstopper from div1

[velvet beacon]

yeah

acs-12 or named one rock'n'roll

[hexed steppe]

@blissful rampart @urban latch @onyx sage
i have a pretty specific mortar build i use that is pretty different to the traditional setups and would like to put it into the spreadsheet. either as a stand alone build guide, or append to the existing mortar guide as a btsu/pca variant with a link back to the specific breakdown.
Mortar Build - BTSU/PCA Variant

ive also updated Hazpro Eclipse CC to reflect the changes made in TU22.

regardless of outcome, thanks in advance for your consideration

[magic pilot]

why not wyvern bp?

[hexed steppe]

perfect combined arms. extra 5% tsd

also, able to utilize all damage in first strike since its a weapon hit proc instead of status or kill

[magic pilot]

oh duh

looks sick, ive never used mortar but OC version sounds sick

[hexed steppe]

its really nice when you need to get mortar back quick. ill also oc if i know someone is using seekers oxi, pulse, or if stuff just needs to come off cooldown

[magic pilot]

i will add your mortar build to the sheet rq

what do you want to call it?

[hexed steppe]

Mortar Build - BTSU/PCA Variant

[magic pilot]

@hexed steppe should be all set, if you want to double check it

[hexed steppe]

looks good, much appreciated 🍻

[onyx sage]

so pro

[fair dragon]

Wow

Now time to add the Perfect Precision Strike variant

[fair dragon]

What's the cooldown for OC? is there any other way to speed it up?

[subtle bluff]

2 mins normal iirc. Use other OC.

[hexed steppe]

Its 120 sec. Seems long but I'm actually able to proc it a lot. ~10sec mortar cooldown paired with hive means damage output rarely stops.
Hive can throw out with partial cooldown so in a pinch the longest wait for something is like 1.5 sec

[fair dragon]

See that's the thing, I can retrieve the turret mid-way and it will have a shorter cooldown. Damage-wise OC doesn't give that much of a buff; you'll be able to handle most encounters with ease within 15 seconds

Nonetheless, that is a cool mortar hybrid build

[hexed steppe]

I'm usually in group content as well, and being able to oc others plays a part in my thinking . I do occasionally swap to contractors and oxi for something like end of heroic tidal basin with Sam sites. But generally I main this build for most things open world/mission/project related stuff.

Other forms of oc take away too much of the damage by losing backpack talent or weapon talent. A shorter time between oc would be nice . I'm not usually using the oc only for damage tho so it doesnt need to be active 100% tbf

[fair dragon]

I see

[lost wren]

just got the ouroboros first try from paradise lost
is it good? heard it got nerfed or something

[magic pilot]

Still the best smg

[lost wren]

cool

guess my luck still hasn't ran out yet

[rough thistle]

My agent is lvl 37 I want to make a build with the lexinton but the gun is lvl 10 sadly

[magic pilot]

You should have one in your mailbox

[rough thistle]

I have but it’s level 10

[oak zinc]

If it makes you feel better both of mine are lvl 1.

[rough thistle]

Bruh

[thorn spire]

I have 2 level 1 lexingtons and a lvl 18 one, no lvl 40 sadly

[rough thistle]

How do you even have 3?

[rich cosmos]

It’s physically impossible to have 3

[broken edge]

think it was just a typo, 2 of them with one being lv 1 and the other lv18

[slate oar]

not physically impossible

[magic pilot]

how did you get 3?

made a ubi ticket?

[slate oar]

nah i got two at the start for some reason then got the 3rd when they gave everyone one in their mailbox

[magic pilot]

that is so weird

[slate oar]

yah, saddly 2 are only level 30

[magic pilot]

when you got the first 2 you just logged into main character like normal?

[slate oar]

ya

[magic pilot]

huh cool

keep them as a trophy lol

[slate oar]

lmao might aswell

[rich cosmos]

Dude

Thats the lvoa-c

[slate oar]

its not

[broken edge]

look at the rof

but yeah

odd one

[rich cosmos]

Tell that to the 70’000 more damage

[broken edge]

probably lv30 and lv 40 or something

[slate oar]

its just the level

[broken edge]

inflation hits that hard

[rich cosmos]

Fair enough

[empty rune]

Hey wats a good dmg on the artillery turret?

[hexed steppe]

im so glad im done with mules

[solar sable]

who even uses artillery turret /j

[hexed steppe]

isnt that what i was saying to you the other day 😂 look at ammo type

[hexed steppe]

10mil with capacitor stacked, back pack talent active, perfect glass, and some expertise 😎

[empty rune]

Ah then im close. Im hitting 7-9mil

[hexed steppe]

thats about right for standard setup. shock and awe/glass?

[empty rune]

Idk how the expertise stuff works sadly but ill figure

[hexed steppe]

its just small % upgrades to base damage

its a slow grind, not really a huge thing, but a bonus

[empty rune]

Im using a btsu overcharge set up but still hitting close to 10 without the overcharge so i may just swap to diffnhloves

[hexed steppe]

oc should hit higher than non oc. its hard to tell exact because builds have a lot of variables , but a couple mil higher i would expect

[empty rune]

Ah. Hell i may just redo the build

[hexed steppe]

skill damage contractors can work well as gloves if not getting a lot of benefit out of btsu

[magic pilot]

Local just had his OC mortar added to guide if you want to check it out

[magic pilot]

Oh! So you are free to boost me whenever I need?!

[empty rune]

Sure lemme check pins

[hexed steppe]

sure, i got ya bro

[magic pilot]

I'm so poor on mats rn ngl

But I'm grinding tarkov today lol

[hexed steppe]

nice

[fresh fox]

like 14 mil with perfect precision strike

don’t think it’s intended though

yea

credit to @/.porphy for the numbers

[magic pilot]

/.porphy what a guy

[shy willow]

That affects skills?

[empty rune]

Huh i woulda never thought that affected skills

[magic pilot]

this is your daily reminder that flatline also works on skills, and turret/drone applies pulse when shooting enemies

[fresh fox]

didn’t want to actually tag him pal 🙄

[hexed steppe]

jesus

[fresh fox]

yes, not really intended since it doesn’t use the stacks up though

[magic pilot]

they should keep the talents that affect skills ngl

[fresh fox]

true

[magic pilot]

skill builds already weaker, they need the help

[hexed steppe]

i miss when blb was giving kinetic turrets/drones 200% amp

[fresh fox]

now pps can give them 70% at least 🥲

[hexed steppe]

thats sick

[empty rune]

Now im only hitting 7m afternsome alterations

[magic pilot]

easiest way to find out whats going on is a picture tbh'

[rich cosmos]

?

We never had this talk before

[empty rune]

left is the btsu right is the one im currently on

[rich cosmos]

Btsu with reviver is actually just insane

[hexed steppe]

#ask-td2-community message

[rich cosmos]

Thats a completely different conversation as well, I was right in that conversation

They patched out lexington taking m4 skins

[empty rune]

💀

[rich cosmos]

You can look up videos pre lexington release and even on release of people showing the m4 skins

[hexed steppe]

nah, the context was about skins, but it was because you were claiming lex was m4 and not lvoa

[rich cosmos]

Thats because it is

Factually

[hexed steppe]

but then just here recently claimed an obv lex was an lvoac

just saying

[rich cosmos]

Im the lvoa simp, I will continue to use Lexington regardless

[rich cosmos]

Because the picture is a lvoa???

Did you not read or look above

I think you just had a massive misunderstanding of the conversation

[hexed steppe]

i read you misinterpreted the damage difference as a different weapon type instead of a different level. ammo type same on both thos

[rich cosmos]

I tried to reason the idea that this third lexington was just the lvoa

[hexed steppe]

incorectly

[rich cosmos]

But I was wrong and it is the lexington

[rich cosmos]

I acknowledged I was wrong

[empty rune]

Any idea on how to improve this or? Cause im finding it hard to get a Skill dmg skill haste scarifice

[hexed steppe]

i was poking fun because of our previous. its all good

[fresh fox]

get a yellow core contractors

[rich cosmos]

I respect you but you need to pay a little more attention to context

[fresh fox]

and optimize pieces that are good to use

[empty rune]

Oh i missed that thank u

[hexed steppe]

thats basically it, contractors can trade an overcharge for a minor boost. you could use a hanna chest maybe but lose some amp. its definitely unicorn heavy build and just really needs time to get all where it works best for you

[boreal lichen]

What is the maximum amount of critical hit chance to have on a build?

[hexed steppe]

60%, unless you have a talent that Guarantees a critical hit on next shot or for however many seconds. those would be the only exceptions

[shy willow]

It does wtf?

I know od amped them at one point but flatline tf

[fresh fox]

unfortunately they got rid that 💔

[hexed steppe]

flatline has for a while, no? i thought they fixed honestly

[shy willow]

So now my question is would it be worth running over in sync

[boreal lichen]

Thank you

[magic pilot]

Idk haven't tried

[gentle lichen]

what is the link for that one dps calc where you input specific things like dta dtooc and such

[hexed steppe]

is that one of iKia's? probably in the sheet if so

[versed summit]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wN0O89bI0mxnd1VEk3eN454ogXCkiu5Ykxh2_vxfd1I/edit

This maybe?

[gentle lichen]

i was thinking the same one dod uses since i think that one is pretty straightforward

[versed summit]

Honestly I hate dods

But I don’t think he shares it

[lost wren]

trying to put this together

[gentle lichen]

ahh fair enough

[versed summit]

Not sure if scoobyVI’s build tool is updated but that can calculate DPS as well

[gentle lichen]

ill try out the ikea one

[versed summit]

IMO it’s a lot more readable

[hexed steppe]

oh, mortar strikes dont even reset. itll need tech support or shock and awe to be really good. my PCA cant proc without a weapon hit, triggering its decay. must work really well when running retribution 🤔

*edit: looks like it can proc PCA, only on 20m+ targets tho

thanks for the info, 💯

[magic pilot]

Solid

@gentle lichen what are you testing I can help out

[lost wren]

in the meantime i'm also trying to make a heartbreaker bighorn setup

anything i should change here?

[blazing brook]

The Lady Death only drops after killing New York bosses? Or does it drop on smth like summit?

[versed summit]

It drops like normal, but has an additional drops source from NY open world bosses

Just farm SMGs tbh

[blazing brook]

Alright, I’m trynna make a memento + lady death build for some reason

[versed summit]

IMO lady death is overrated for heroic, but is borderline busted below heroic

[blazing brook]

Usually I’m lucky with summit drops

[versed summit]

I would also recommend countdown if you haven’t been

[blazing brook]

I always replay missions/summit on heroic, so it might work

Im also obsessed with armor regen builds

And bonus armor as well

[blazing brook]

Tried a few times but couldn’t finish the whole mission

Sniper war hounds are always busting my armor

[versed summit]

You matchmaker on challenging?

[blazing brook]

I legit get two clipped by them when I’m using my striker build

[hexed steppe]

not super huge improvement but nothing to sneeze at. about a mil or so more than i normally see.
my btsu build with and without OC, and also contractors swapped in. those 14mil hits from .porphy are impressive.

[blazing brook]

Pretty much, sometimes on heroic when I’m running some tanky/bruiser build with pestilence

I’ve also got St. Elmo’s but sadly it’s at lv30 so it’s basically useless 💔😭

[versed summit]

You can reconfigure it to 40

[plain leaf]

why not run countdown and get a lvl 40 one?

[blazing brook]

By crafting?

[hexed steppe]

yeah

[blazing brook]

I’ll try, I’ve only been playing summit

[hexed steppe]

reconfig blueprint

[plain leaf]

ah

[blazing brook]

Right

Btw how do you get the emp sticky bomb

If it’s still worth it on pvp

[hexed steppe]

jupiter manhunt iirc

[versed summit]

Yes. Legacy Jupiter manhunt

[hexed steppe]

roosevelt > mission settings > hold g till mode is jupiter manhunt

[blazing brook]

Alright I’ll do it tomorrow

[plain leaf]

not the best but its alright ive been able to get 2 to 2.5mil with it

[blazing brook]

Looks fine to me

[plain leaf]

love the chameleon

[blazing brook]

Btw I still gotta get the mini gun specialization cause of the armor regen perk from it, but the quests are so boring

Plus 5 stages like

I might as well just buy it right away

[plain leaf]

may or may not be what i did

for all of them

[magic pilot]

not my strong suit honestly. HB i mean

[hushed gorge]

Is Lexington outdps-ing St Elmos?

[patent fossil]

yes

but then several high-end ARs out-dps Elmos, given a damage talent

[versed summit]

Lexington does it without a talent though

On build

[blazing brook]

Honestly, Lexington dps is completely abyssal

It goes even harder with the flatline talent

[versed summit]

been using mine with ranger. it's stupid

[rich cosmos]

Abyssal is not good

[vestal ibex]

This word does not mean what you think it means.

[rich cosmos]

I just realized I misread it and its even more wrong lol

Its not even abysmal

[versed summit]

abyssal is a synonym with unfathomable and is theoretically positive or negative connotation

that doesn't mean anyone who uses the word abyssal isn't a giant nerd though

[lost wren]

what were the mods for the shield splinterer

i’m guessing different mods from crit because this is a headshot build

[versed summit]

doesn't really matter because Bighorn is your bread and butter, but you'd just want Headshot and handling mods tbh

[lost wren]

gotcha

thanks

[magic pilot]

I go all accuracy mode basically but I never use it

Better off with lefty tbh

[lost wren]

for perfect sledge yeah

[celest schooner]

Anyone have a good place to view to help with tinkering with guns, gear and etc. I’m still trying to get a grip on it.

[broken edge]

you mean like a website to preview or just general tips?

[lost wren]

if i’m unable to get a matador with the best attributes, what are alternatives in the meantime?

obviously the talent will be adrenaline rush, but what brand sets can be good alternatives?

[celest schooner]

@broken edge yes if possible I just need to get a better understanding how it works.

Website is fine

[vestal ibex]

#ask-td2-community message lil blip here about it.

[celest schooner]

@vestal ibex perfect thank you

[magic pilot]

I would just keep Walker tbh

Otherwise you'd probably have to move around pieces to run improvised

That's next best option

[lost wren]

gotcha

[thorn terrace]

Where can I obtain striker gear?

[prime tendon]

Summit - target it in settings

[rich cosmos]

Countdown

Summit takes longer

Countdown is the easiest way to farm any kind of loot

[magic pilot]

🤓 well actually some loot is locked to other content🤓

[rich cosmos]

Countdown has access to named caches so a large chunk of exclusives are available

[magic pilot]

Regulus, chatterbox, capacitor, ridgeway, liberty, EB, Ouro, nemesis, bighorn, ravenous

And 5 seasonal items

[rich cosmos]

Did you just not read my sentence

Whats with division chat members feigning ignorance lately

[fresh fox]

boooo reading boring

[hexed steppe]

Countdown fastest for striker , which op was asking about

Anywhere its target works

[magic pilot]

Idk I'm trolling, people hating on the spreadsheets lately

So I'm hating on everyone

[rich cosmos]

Real

[onyx sage]

who wants to read bro i got 4 kids to take care of i want to play a game not read numbers

[plain leaf]

anyone got any good ideas on how to start a high dps skill build

[fresh fox]

give up

jk you got like mortar i guess

idk the dps on it though

probably not that high

[onyx sage]

mortar and oxi but they don't just work in every situation

[hexed steppe]

Something like this maybe..
#td2-build-advice message

Pretty much any skills can fit

[plain leaf]

does crit chance and dmg have any effect on skill dps output i never really used skills with dmg before

[hexed steppe]

It wont help skills but will give cap and harmony some real teeth.

[plain leaf]

i see

[hexed steppe]

Most of your skill attributes come from the 38% skill efficiency between empress and memento.
That's 38% in all skill categories

Or Skill Buckets™️

Although with retribution you can probably get away with having little to no crit chance , so technically can just make a skill build and rely on that and maybe some chd rolls

[vestal ibex]

It's just in terms of DPS, purely looking at skills and their DPS it's not high. Considering the fact that a capacitor on a skill build the capacitor will do 50ish% more DPS than the skills if you are shooting at stuff.

[plain leaf]

so its the combo doing the work not just the skills

[onyx sage]

it's the gun doing the work

[vestal ibex]

I'd say for a skill build like local linked your gun does most the damage while the skills work as distractions that do some damage.

[hexed steppe]

They're tier 6 skills with weapons having 70% wd , both amped by glass...

But you can run a basic afk with retribution and capacitor will do work, especially if 3rd attribute is dttooc

[plain leaf]

does the ninja backpack also give u the amp talent of a gear sets backpack or no?

[hexed steppe]

No

[plain leaf]

make sense

[hexed steppe]

Ninja is net loss, even memento is loss over a highend bag with strong talent

But memento lets you be pretty solid and has enough return to justify its use

[plain leaf]

what about waveform?

[hexed steppe]

Its alright, probably more so now with the brand rebalance

[plain leaf]

kinda what i was thinking pairing it with i dont have the gloves rn that everyone uses