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https://twitter.com/RichieHeinz/status/1641494478753259520

Richie Heinz (@RichieHeinz)

@AshamanND @RobSeptiq @EuropaHalo @natusvincere @HCS @Ferocity_SHG The FaZe Clan 4K will act as the DH Dallas Global Qualifier, as will the 4Ks for the other regions. There is no HCS action on May 20/21. Also, the EU Global Qualifier in July is 1 day (Jul 23rd).

To be clear, there are no conflicts with the EuropaHalo dates - all good there.

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quiet prairie
somber swift
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somber swift
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ok

tall mural
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one from each?

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Lucid, Royal2, Penguin, Gilkey

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Maybe tapping

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Lucid, Barcode, Frosty, Renegade

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Renegade and Frosty are both in FaZe

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Eco

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For renegade

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Oof wait stellur

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Rip that's hard

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tepid forum
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i really wish i could hear my teammates. no clue why the audio is so low

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and i need higher sensitivity

noble field
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No shot Mikwen is on the list. Trippy, APG, Royal2, Formal, Renegade, Stuller, Eco, Bound, Barcode, TappingButtons are all not in the list because you took Mikwen. I like the guy too but no shot.

EDIT: Just saw you meant one from each team. Still saying Barcode or Tapping instead of Mikwen.

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Don't forget to sign up to the EU Halo Infinite EGL 4v4 Tournament !

EU EGL Halo Infinite 4v4 Tournament MARCH 31 20:00 BST :
https://egl.tv/tournament/7801
💰 $100

=> Let's get 32 teams on it

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somber swift
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even if you're not an Optic fan, a must watch imo

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is today's na and tomorrow's eu toruney gonna be streamed?

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it's LVTHalo

quiet prairie
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Native Gaming White is going to be so interresting this year !

noble field
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Haven’t been able to follow. Anyone have updated on the 4K this weekend?

simple talon
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How'd Faze do? I didn't get a chance to finish the stream

quiet prairie
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Well infos for pool play are on faceit

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but the bracket is still invisible for all region (so for exemple ANZ is finished but we can't have the bracket)

noble field
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Yea I asked because I think only FaceIt really has it. I’m away on a work weekend and only on my cell and FaceIt is just god awful on mobile browsers.

quiet prairie
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Still no bracket...

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Can someone tell me what the twitch drop was yesterday?

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Halo Championship Series Banners

somber swift
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quiet prairie
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somber swift
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ok, but why is it not on Faceit ? Why not published by HCS ? ...

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Professionnalism...

somber swift
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"hcs.facitdb...."

quiet prairie
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And how do you access it then ?

somber swift
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in each stream

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which were all promoted by HCS twitter

somber swift
quiet prairie
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Because a stream end remember that ? Like MX and NA is in the middle of the night

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perhaps some players were

quiet prairie
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That's what I'm saying... but HCs didn't even presented anything for them

somber swift
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???

somber swift
quiet prairie
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There was a tournament ! Like all region.
Pool Play, Br'acket, result : NOTHING

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which wasn't really very good

somber swift
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copper thunder
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these Optic-Faze games are insane, they're so entertaining to watch!

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Faze gave up

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it was funny

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Faze were down by ten but all of a sudden they just start rushing with no plan.

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I've never seen that.

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These 2 teams are so close, if you count the winner finals Optic won only one round more than Faze. 3-0, 1-4 and then 4-3.

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Every time they play against it's a battle

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That game 7 was pure art from Optic

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I think Optic loses purposely to Faze until the final stretch.

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Faze never wins

somber swift
proven thunder
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I believe that is correct as well

simple talon
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Okay, I'm not saying Optic's crazy or anything

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But can we get a different winner next time? Can they like
Skip out on a whole tourney?

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I swear to the G above me, this team is Harry Potter-ing so hard

somber swift
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Hello

arctic quiver
narrow hare
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OK cheers

tall mural
somber swift
noble field
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I did not expect G1 to be this bad

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somber swift
# noble field Who cares if it is a partnered org?

It's shocking that they would treat an organization they are partnered with like this.

It's bad to treat anyone like this, but a real slap to partners.

Just makes you wonder how much they even care about them.

somber swift
noble field
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so, teams that are now in overall top 16, plus any team that competed and earned top 16 in the 4K

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somber swift
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I've had some insider communications

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while I don't have all the details, I know things weren't done equitably

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What I've been told is that Faceit had a problem with their site.

Complexity was registered, and had signed in, as had all the other teams.
Something went wrong with the site, which cause Complexity and one other team's sign in to not be recognized.
Both teams were not aware it wasn't recognized.

The other team was contacted by HCS to correct the issue before time ran out, Complexity was not.

This was not done equitably.

noble field
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That’s a tough spot to be in for HCS. Not an easy fix. Someone gets screwed over regardless. Either way, then being partnered is 100% irrelevant to the situation.

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Every part of their relationship is relevant

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It wouldn't have been an easy fix, once the qualifiers started and ultimately concluded last week.

One proposal I saw was to have the two teams that finished in the bottom bracket compete in a best of 5 for entry into pools, while giving COL the other spot

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Either way, C9 got a free pass when they should've had to compete in the quals, COL got shut out completely, and potentially once of the bottom 2 qualifying teams made it in when they might not have if things went smoothly

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On another note, Shyway is stirring things up again, not in the smartest way

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Remaining Year 2 HCS Calendar:
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/2023roadmap
April 16: EU Quadrant 4k Qualifier, Open Series 4k Qualifiers (rest of world)
April 22-23: NA Open Series 4k
April 23: EU Quadrant Open Series 4k, MX/ANZ Open Series 4k
April 30: Open Series 2k
May 4: NA Open Series 2k Finals
May 6th – NAVI x Europa Halo Spring Series EU Only Open 1
May 7: NA FaZe Clan 4k Qualifier, Open Series 4k Qualifier (rest of world)
May 12-13: NA FaZe Clan Open Series 4k DreamHack Dallas Qualifier, Open Series 4k DreamHack Dallas Qualifier (May 13 rest of world)
May 14th – NAVI x Europa Halo Spring Series EU Only Open 2
May 20th – NAVI x Europa Halo Spring Series EU Only Open 3
May 27th – NAVI x Europa Halo Spring Series EU Only Season Finals
June 2-4: HCS Global Invitational @ DreamHack Dallas
June 30 - July 1: HCS Arlington Major hosted by OpTic
July 8th – NAVI x Europa Halo Summer Series EU Only Open 1
July 15th – NAVI x Europa Halo Summer Series EU Only Open 2
July 16: Open Series 2k
July 20: NA Open Series 2k Finals
July 22nd – NAVI x Europa Halo Summer Series EU Only Open 3

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NAVI x EUROPAHALO 💪

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somber swift
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Will HCS Tweet something that acknowledges the ANZ region today?

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They've tweeted out congratulations to the other 3 region winners already.
They didn't even promote ANZ tournament for 7+ days ahead of it's tournament.

Are they going to promote that region or...?

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https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1639381761670127616
March 24th was the last time they even mentioned the region, in a tweet with other regions.

March 20th was the last time they mentioned ANZ in a solo tweet
https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1638005703293177857

Halo Esports (@HCS)

Give it up once again for this week's #HCSOpenSeries Champions! 🏆

🇺🇸 @Spacestation
🇪🇺 @natusvincere
🇲🇽 @Luminosity
🇦🇺 @VertexESC

The action continues this Sunday with the 4K Qualifier - There's still time to register at https://t.co/j9kVDEormv!

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Halo Esports (@HCS)

New champions break through in the ANZ 🇦🇺 #HCSOpenSeries - Congratulations to @VertexESC! 🏆

@Scoobmeistr
@DivinitySZN
@Ryuu6_
@ManOfChicken_

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🇪🇺 UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS 🇪🇺

EU FFA SPRING SERIES OPEN#3 APRIL 5TH 19:00 BST :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/7ff3b24f-d154-4436-9957-4239b4cbe601/
💰 20€

Gamers Assembly EU Regional LAN APRIL 8 :
https://ga2023.gamers-assembly.net/tournois/halo-infinite-gamers-assembly-festival-edition-2023
💰 1500€

Swat Nation 12v12 BTB Tournament APRIL 15 16:00 BST :
https://swatnation.net/main-event/big-team-bonanza/
💰 $1400

HCS EU QUADRANT QUALIFIER APRIL 16TH 12:00 BST :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/e849e6f8-e07a-4d8f-a20a-8b5bc4f7204b/EU HCS QUADRANT Qualifier 04-16

Show some support to the EU scene and sign up to these tournaments

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Navi has a Discord server now 🙂

Quadrant is now the only partnered org without one.

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This message is still pinned, and it leads to a channel which is now locked down - I think it used to be the HCS News channel

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@proud summit this link is still pinned, but outdated.

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Rest of the pins look good

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message deleted?

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yeah I was just saying Quadrant has a private discord

somber swift
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oh

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  • the halo squad specifically has one
somber swift
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private though?

somber swift
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I imagine all the teams have their own private discord, aside from any public facing ones.

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true

somber swift
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but all the other 7 partners have public facing ones, for fan engagement

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perhaps Quadrant will dive in

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and then maybe the Halo team here might consider providing links to all 8?

Seems like a no brainer way to help promote the fanbase for each, given they are partners and all...

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they have a fans discord with 700 members

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but the official one with staff is private only

somber swift
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huh, that's kinda neat

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are there quadrant staff that participate in it?

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no

somber swift
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like, not even ever slightly?

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I wonder if quadrant hasn't made a server yet, so as not to squash the community one?

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I just know EU FFA Spring Series Open#3 is coming and HRL FFA Series 5 Week 4 just starting soon

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hehe, I love how you just transition to promo'ing tournaments

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the 2 last existant FFA Circuit worldwide 💪

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but I still don't know how to bring more/new/old players/teams

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idk how to go from 32 EU Teams to 48

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since 48 is still the objective

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is the Sauna still a thing?

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since it works, I'll continue

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I'm not in it, but I imagine you're promoting there too?

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but it's the best way to get players (and it's working)

somber swift
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  • 1/day for the most upcoming one
somber swift
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whatever you think is most effective 🙂

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and again 2/3 other messages 2/3 hours before tournament start

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we'll try 48 with this Quadrant Qualifier, but it'll be hard

somber swift
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yeah but how to enlist more players?

somber swift
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DMs, perhaps talking to their Org managers/owners, asking them to make an effort with you on promotion.

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Honestly, probably working with a group like Europa Halo to really push the promotion

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will try, thx for the idea

somber swift
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cold kayak
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What’s it like having your own channel, Ashaman and Vaktor?

quiet prairie
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somber swift
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what are the changes?

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quiet prairie
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they have the 4k points + Quadrant and Faze

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Not advertised : of course ^^

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I thought it was a new one x(

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somber swift
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oh my bad x)

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cold kayak
quiet prairie
# somber swift ?

its just adjustement but no major differences between NA and other regions

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(and yes it means that Quadrant and FaZe have no differences between a 4k....) love HCS

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quiet prairie
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@somber swift I'm noticing HaloRecLeague has the same issue than us

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each week they get less participants to their FFA Circuit

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# quiet prairie adjustments like I said

oh cool, I suppose there would need to be a difference between NA and other regions for the 4K because the NA goes down to a 16 team pool, and 12 team bracket.
Like I said

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that's the reason there's a points difference for placings, because of the bracket size

somber swift
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you know some advance info?

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he was talking about it on his livestream

somber swift
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oh cool

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I wonder if it'll be similar to the europa/navi one, where HCS points are involved

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4v4 : 8 challengers teams (top1,2 and 3 ANZ teams can't participate => so top4-.... teams only)

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no

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it'll be a league, each week : 1 team face another => at the end of the league every team will have faced everyone

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About FFA, it'd be nice to have a coordonate circuits between us (EU), HaloRecLeague (NA) and create MX/ANZ ones too, so every region gets FFA back

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arctic quiver
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still socket
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So many rules lol

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I have a feeling optic will defend their title because I was watching game scrims and they look scary

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arctic quiver
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still socket
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I can never understand how some pro players can play with the default weapon offsets

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any one want to run ranked i was onyx 1700 in the first season rn im d2 trying to get onyx

arctic quiver
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Why did the hcs news channel get removed?

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Twitter changed their API, blame Elon for us not being able to have them any longer

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rigid sable
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they didn't enable drops. I need 1 more hour for the hammerhead coating.

quiet prairie
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go to the EuropaHalo channel

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I am. It seems the drops expired, they got it back but it reset everyone's progress.

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:/

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they kinda fixed it, now only requires 30 minutes

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fail. After resetting it to 30 mins the broadcast lasted 10 minutes more.

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oof

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Like we say : c'est ballot

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I think optic is going to win this year HCS

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FaZe would probably choke lol

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Any team with Monster on it is coming.

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*online

tame sandal
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Hey! For those who went to Orlando and/or Raleigh, was the VIP experience worth it in your opinion? I know they sell out pretty quickly so my chances of getting them are low, but wanted to at least see if it's actually worth it.

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I went to Worlds, and it was worth it there.

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not sure about just a Major though

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It's great that Europa Halo can help out and do the broadcast for this, but it remains to be seen why this is actually a "Quadrant' tournament.
Like, what are they really doing for it, other than a few extra tweets to help promote it?

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And I want to see if FaZe do something more too

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Worlds was so fun

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bigger Prize Pool funded by Quadrant

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Is it though?

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🇪🇺 UPCOMING TOURNAMENTS 🇪🇺

EU FFA SPRING SERIES OPEN#4 APRIL 12 19:00 BST :
https://faceit.com/en/championship/16cb7fce-228f-4ca5-ba6e-d7ae50c648d0/EU FFA Spring Series Open 4
💰 20€

Swat Nation 12v12 BTB Tournament APRIL 15 16:00 BST :
https://swatnation.net/main-event/big-team-bonanza/
💰 $2000

HCS EU QUADRANT QUALIFIER APRIL 16TH 12:00 BST :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/e849e6f8-e07a-4d8f-a20a-8b5bc4f7204b/EU HCS QUADRANT Qualifier 04-16
💰 QUALIFICATION

[EU] EGL Halo Infinite 4v4 Tournament APRIL 28 19:30 BST :
https://egl.tv/tournament/7827
💰 $150

Show some support to the EU scene and sign up to these tournaments

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@abstract herald is the quadrant prize pool actually bigger?

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so they haven't announced the larger prize pool yet, gotcha, haha

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but it should be bigger

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That would be good then!

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I imagine Faze would also be bigger then?

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I don't see these 2 huge structures making Online Cups with only $1500 and $2000 prize pools

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last year FaZe already organised a $75,000 cup if I remember correctly

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so it should be something like that

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same for Quadrant I imagine they'll put something like $25,000 or $50,000

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I dunno, I think if it was that much $ they would've announced it already

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# tame sandal What does VIP have that a regular pass doesn't?

Several things, including but not limited to:
Early entry to the venue,
A tour of the venue,
Discounts at HCS merch booth,
Priority line ups for different booths as offered at the particular event,
A swag bag of sweet stuff (we got action figures and other cool things),
Access to VIP lounge comfy seating,
Other stuff.

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whomstve pinged

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that is not bad at all, really hope I can snag one for SLC

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thanks for all the info btw

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@hollow abyss we don't allow that kind of thing here

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Luminosity hasn't yet signed up in MX, also not the main Cintanegra, and we don't have a couple of the top teams from ANZ yet either, Divine Mind/Mindfreak

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BRO 😭

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?

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NOT SUSPECTOR 😭 😭

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Lmao

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I'm sure he'll end up somewhere strong.

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SENTINELS DROPPED KUHLECT

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@tall mural

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they'll still be hard pressed to break into top 6, tbh

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optic, ssg, faze
G1 N8V red & white

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they weren't even top 8 in the last 4k

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but tbf, that's online and TJ has a rough time playing online

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Noice

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thx @tame sandal

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Would you know how long I have to wait to get the Inheritor role?

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It's not about time, it's about posts and good behavior. Interact more with the server and it'll eventually come.

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Roster mania continues:
Complexity picks up two players, Kuhlect from Sentinels and Monstcr (from Proton).
Status Quo picks up Ddiagram from Mags up.
Proton picks up Haines out of retirement!

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i'll be sad if they don't

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I kinda doubt there's gonna be more $

I have a feeling it'll just have some Quadrant branding, maybe a couple of short videos throughout the broadcast about the team/org.

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Spacestation set such a high bar with their content during the Snowdown though.

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while 2022 FaZe Online was $75000

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so except it's a big downgrade from last year

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I think they'll both have more $

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the ones on the roadmap for this year are tied specifically to the 4Ks, so I don't think they're doing something larger for prize pool, as it's built into the normal HCS calendar

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if it was only basic 4k with $2000 and $1500, it'd make no sense

somber swift
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it think it'll be still 4k but with larger prize pools, I'm just waiting for the announcement

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Richie has consistently said that the handbook is updated and correct.
And the prize pools are listed there

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ik

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but maybe it wasn't planned, and maybe they'll increase it now

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If Quadrant has plans to offer a larger prize pool, you would think they would be doing to in order to grow the brand, their audience, and get more people to register.
You'd think that would've been announced more than 2 days before the tournament qualifiers.

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It hasn't been announced, I highly doubt there's more $ in play

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Jlingz finally registered for it, which is good

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I think that's the last major EU team that hadn't signed up yet

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still waiting on mindfreak, luminosity, magsup and avengers in their respective regions

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ah, gotcha

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@somber swift Mr Points! If Sentinels drop Kuhlect for Suspector, what does that do for their points? Rumor is that is happening to help Sentinels get an automatic qualifier to pools.

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Interesting.

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i think it was mikren in someones stream was writing that they made the complexity roster as is specifically for the points

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and he also said that Sentinels has no idea what they're doing

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shopify signed up finally

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lol

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Tusk>monstr

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Avengers finally signed up

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I think the top 12 are all signed up now for NA

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luminosity signed up in MX

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still no mindfreak for ANZ though

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only 7 teams even registered there.

Top 6 by points go into pools, and then there's meant to be a bracket for the last 2 spots.

At this rate, they won't even need it

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I don't blame that region though - by all accounts at a pro level of MMR, the game is actually unplayable there.

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Well number of participants are still going down :/

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# somber swift I don't blame that region though - by all accounts at a pro level of MMR, the ga...

no (good) servers outside of NA => EU/MX/ANZ need more servers.

No interest in competing => HCS need to invest back massively in every region.

No partnered teams in ANZ/MX => HCS need to get more partners teams and bring more EU/MX/ANZ teams in HCS Majors (in Open Bracket).

Season 4 has to bring tons of content to save the game => + They need to make sponsorships/partnerships with famous Streamers/Content Creators from every region and bring new players to Halo.

  • They need a very solid HCS Circuit to compete with other games like COD League, Valorant, Rocket League etc....
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Now its official, the day before.. can't understand (except for admin reason) why

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14k prize pool!? Wuft!!

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That's awesome

cold kayak
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Dang that’s awesome

quiet prairie
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and might have less taxes too because its a english organization

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😎

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EU Quadrant Online 4K Series : $14,000
EU EuropaHalo x NAVI Spring Series : $5,000
EU EuropaHalo x NAVI Summer Series : $5,000
EU Open Series : $1,500
EU 4K Series : $1,500

NA Open Series : $2,000
NA 4K Series : $2,000

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I love pings!

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Cool

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ANZ has only 10 teams signed up, and it starts in 1 hour.

Gonna be a 4 team qualifier tournament....

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MagsUp renamed:

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They also needed a new 4th

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HCS EU QUADRANT ONLINE 4K SERIES QUALIFIER APRIL 16TH 12:00 BST :
https://www.faceit.com/en/championship/e849e6f8-e07a-4d8f-a20a-8b5bc4f7204b/EU HCS QUADRANT Qualifier 04-16
💰 QUALIFICATION

HCS EU QUADRANT ONLINE 4K SERIES APRIL 23TH 12:00 BST :
💰 14,000€

Don't forget to sign up to the Qudrant Qualifier :
https://twitter.com/Quadrant/status/1647298746261069824

-> Let's reach at least 40 teams :
Please 🇪🇺 show up at least at this cup, then you can go back in the shadows, but show up tomorrow

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@karmic hare next time in Europe for 4K Series, can we have TOP12 Qualified with points and TOP4 Qualified from Qualifier like NA pls ?

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bc we have 37 teams in EU

supple kettleBOT
quiet prairie
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Would be great to have on faceit the pool play and the bracket this time ...

abstract herald
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it's clearly enough

quiet prairie
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not for HCS

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Return of Germans in Halo too 12% is a lot

abstract herald
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how do you want to bring more teams if we got capped at 8 teams?

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HCS Regional Finals
HCS Online Supers
HCS Majors
HCS Global Invitationals
HCS 4K Series
=> should all be 16 teams for EU/NA and 8 teams for MX/ANZ

quiet prairie
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there is no Supers and Regionals this year. That's why.
So its only 8 teams for Pool PLay and Bracket phase. It's HCS rules...

abstract herald
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I hope they'll change this next time

grand pagoda
tall mural
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The cast is starting in LVT

eager apex
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Any HCS going on with classic halo?

quiet prairie
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no

somber swift
tall mural
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where?

somber swift
tall mural
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W thanks

abstract herald
somber swift
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Ok

abstract herald
tame sandal
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Have there been any good news about FaZe's stock?

tall mural
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Haven’t heard anything but also haven’t been staying up to date on it

somber swift
noble field
torpid void
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Anyone want to squad up we have three need one more silver 6 to plat 3

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If you want to join add me on Xbox MrNoob7168

somber swift
somber swift
radiant totem
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What rewards do you get in ranked?

somber swift
radiant totem
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Thanks

somber swift
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'official' now

tame sandal
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Is G2 still on board?

tall mural
somber swift
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I think this is the first time i've ever seen HCS put out a TEAM points list:

noble field
somber swift
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Oopsie, haha

somber swift
somber swift
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Some big upsets happening today

somber swift
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SSG might not even qualify for bracket play tomorrow!

somber swift
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Sentinels just came back to win against Avengers in a slayer when down lik3 47-39 🧊 🧊 🧊 🧊

proven thunder
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That was nuts

proven thunder
somber swift
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SQ took down G1

proven thunder
somber swift
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Complexity took down SSG, and so did G1

proven thunder
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Shoot

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Good for them

somber swift
proven thunder
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That makes sense

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They were so good Year one

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Top 2 every major right?

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Or top 3? It was EU and Sen finals at the very first major of year 1?

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Can’t remember

somber swift
somber swift
proven thunder
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Ahh yeah that’s right

proven thunder
somber swift
desert dagger
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is this the last pool match?

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today?

somber swift
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yes

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then WR 1 plays tonight

desert dagger
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whats WR

somber swift
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upper bracket round 1

tiny sparrow
quiet prairie
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Same for ANZ...

noble field
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Got to watch more than normal lately yesterday. Happy about that. Few takes:

  • SSG is bad online and we all know it. I wouldn’t over react. Still a Top3 on LAN until proven otherwise.
  • Suspector seems to be a better fit for Sentinels, although I still can’t get behind a team with both Nick and Lethul. I don’t think they will ever get Top4 together.
  • Online warriors loving all these big online events. I called (quietly to my brother) that Complexity was getting Top4 this weekend. Still looking true. I do like the team though but we all know how it goes on LAN for Monster.
  • SQ doing well makes me happy. Happy for Flame.
  • N8V Red has been struggling harder than expected all season. I do wonder what’s up with them, if anything.
  • Going to be Faze vs Optic again in the Finals. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Always fun to watch though.
quiet prairie
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N8V White is struggling too

noble field
# quiet prairie N8V White is struggling too

I wouldn’t say that. They were suspect online before the LAN too. I believe they are still playing in different regions and online isn’t fun for them. Lol. Also getting 1st in the pool and losing to the online gods was not a bad showing IMO. Complexity is Top4 man. 😉

quiet prairie
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They only play in NA, players connot plays in multiple regions and they must play in a country inside the region. It's in the rules

worldly stone
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didnt ask

quiet prairie
noble field
quiet prairie
noble field
quiet prairie
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Ok

noble field
quiet prairie
noble field
quiet prairie
noble field
quiet prairie
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D'accord faisons comme ça

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tall mural
noble field
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*Cloud9 straight up sucks

noble field
# tall mural I meant Cloud9 💀 my brain isn’t working

Ah. Lol. Yes. It’s funny how everyone started talking about Nemassit, Triton, and Boam more after worlds. I get it and they are all good. Rammy too. But that team with Rammy instead of Kuhlect is a big drop off. Also that team lacks a pure slayer like Kuhlect IMO. Was rooting for C9 as I like those players some but they are a Top16 team as is.

tall mural
grand pagoda
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Kuhlect clutches a lot

noble field
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@somber swift When do they invite the top teams for Dreamhack?

quiet prairie
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In may

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it's when qualifier takes place

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"DreamHack Dallas Qualifiers take place in all regions on May 13th!"
"The top teams from each region's Qualifier will earn an invite to DreamHack Dallas."
"Following the Qualifiers, the remaining top teams with the most HCS Points will earn the remaining spots." (only NA and EU)

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so yeah apparently seeding by points is after the qualifier so everyone must participate ...

somber swift
noble field
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Thank you both!

somber swift
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Man, Complexity is up 2-0 on Optic - what world are we living in?

somber swift
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I bet 4k points on Complexity, and they won, with only 10% of the vote, so I got 27k return

quiet prairie
noble field
quiet prairie
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IF Optic Double drop it will be their worse placement since january 2022 (with Pistola)

somber swift
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Navi in danger right now

quiet prairie
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Navi out lol XD

somber swift
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oh my!

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yeah, that's unexpected

quiet prairie
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a little bit

tall mural
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Native Red 2/1 OpTic on stream rn

quiet prairie
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Optic just went down !

somber swift
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wow

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they need to regain for the next tournament, big time

quiet prairie
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They might keep being seed 1 but i'm not sure. And next week is only 2k points

past ermine
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I was expecting OpTic to dominate today. Crazy results.

somber swift
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Complexity just took game 1 off Faze

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This 4K is nuts

tall mural
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Series is 2:1 in favor of FaZe

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Kuhlect is 22/8/13

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CoL win game 4!

somber swift
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50-49 game 7, I can't even

tall mural
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Crazy how Kuhlect makes CoL from a t12 to a t2 team online

candid badger
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The question of the day is... is monstcr cheating or has he gotten better.

noble field
noble field
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As for Monster cheating, I don’t believe he is personally. Got to see a lot of his games and POV this weekend. Way more than normal. He had plenty of games going negative or not really popping off. Was also consistently not looking at the right spot. Things that someone with walls wouldn’t be doing. My guess is he has great internet/set up and he is a masterful choke artist in person with higher stakes on the line. It does seem like his online versus in person results is greater difference than anyone else, but seeing his POV as often as we did this weekend makes me feel like he is legit. My two cents on it at least.

past ermine
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Down to game 7, the last kill and Faze wins. Barely.

candid badger
abstract herald
copper thunder
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do the hcs points carry over from last season? Or winning the lan tournament gave OpTic such an advantage over everyone else?

somber swift
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even then, throughout the year, the year 2 points have a couple different 'decay points'

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or rather 'decay moments'

quiet prairie
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Next decay is for 23rd of June. With -75% for points of first split and -15% for pre-season points

tall mural
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darn

copper thunder
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ok ty, didn't expect such a complicated system, at least it sounds like it is lol

quiet prairie
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It's not

somber swift
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to someone unfamiliar with esports in general, it sorta is

quiet prairie
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Its just -75% decay, not that complex.

somber swift
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the whole ecosystem is in general though.

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especially when compared with traditional type sports or competitions

quiet prairie
somber swift
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this almost fits on one page now

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erm, one post

noble field
somber swift
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and you need to pre-qualify for the faze clan event

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there's a qualifier for the qualifier for Dreamhack

noble field
somber swift
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so, for the NA teams, playing in the Faze 4K, the top 2 teams get into Dreamhack.
then, the next highest in NA 8 teams get in

For MZ and ANZ, the winner of their 4K on May 13th gets into Dreamhack.

For EU, the top team from their 4K on May 13th gets in, and then the top other 2 EU teams based on points.

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10 NA teams, 3 EU, 1 MZ, 1 ANZ will be in Dreamhack

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and in order to even play in the 4Ks 'final' you need to register for the 4k qualifiers, on May 7th.

somber swift
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To note, there's only 1 more 2K and 1 more 4K left this year - the rest are all invitationals and Majors, with a few qualifiers.

tall mural
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Mexico is luminosity’s place tho

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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Those regions would benefit more from having a local tournament

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They also DO get more teams invited to the MAJORs at least

somber swift
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Question of the week:
With HCS points mattering so much for the upcoming Dreamhack invitational, and seeing how just about ANY team can make it to top 2 right now (top 2 from Faze will be auto invited):
I wonder if we'll see ALL the top teams register for the 2K this coming weekend?
https://twitter.com/tefik_/status/1650297954060648451

STACKS (@tefik_)

@FaZeClan are this week's @HCS 4K Champs 🥇

Updated Seeds/Points 👇

Twitter ·
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As it stands, C9 wouldn't make it into the Invitational.
All other partnered teams would, including Navi and Quadrant

somber swift
somber swift
candid badger
somber swift
candid badger
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Kinda thought so lol

abstract herald
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@somber swift do you have link to NA Sauna discord ? or NA hcs discords ?

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We're looking to scrim a NA team

somber swift
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and I wouldn't be allowed to talk about them here if I were - I've been told.

tame sandal
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A lot of people are re-casting it wth

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somber swift
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APG is only doing this because Monstcr apparently texted him really early this morning something that upset APG.

quiet prairie
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players doing justice themselves is not healthy at all. Too much bias

somber swift
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It's really just a witch hunt until something official could happen.

abstract herald
somber swift
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what do you mean?

quiet prairie
quiet prairie
somber swift
tall mural
somber swift
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it was spicy!

tiny sparrow
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did he prove cheating?

somber swift
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Lots of sus, never anything proven

quiet prairie
abstract herald
noble field
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@somber swift for example, Tusk is the weakest player on Complexity and has 1k less points than most the guys on C9 and Mantra. Could see a move this week or after the 2k’s depending on placing.

somber swift
noble field
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Juziro is a guy to watch out for with a decent amount of points on a lower seeded team.

somber swift
hoary imp
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Hello everyone I'm back

somber swift
noble field
proven thunder
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So has there been any real traction to this whole Monstcr is cheating thing? Or is it largely here say that is snowballing? Havnt kept up closely

somber swift
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I'm sure there's been enough noise made for HCS to think about it seriously.
But not sure if there's anything they can do on their end to detect anything, that would then compel them to force Monstcr to provide anything to them.

abstract herald
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Seedings is based on HCS Points, if they let Complexity do top2 again, then top2 at FaZe Online, they’ll get a good seeding for Dallas

thorny crescent
abstract herald
thorny crescent
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earn it 😉

abstract herald
hot isle
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Monkey

somber swift
quiet prairie
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The only thing that could be possible is Faze being top 1 if they win the 2k

somber swift
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this is true

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and that wouldn't really change much

somber swift
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Optic and SSG are already signed up

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and Sentinels and Rebellion

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@noble field - with optic signed up i would be surprised if Faze doesn't

noble field
tall mural
tall mural
somber swift
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interesting!

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maybe they're lighting it up in scrims?

tall mural
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possibly

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Status Quo is avergaging 82 also

tall mural
somber swift
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we got G1 signed up for sunday now too

somber swift
somber swift
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and we got faze signed up now

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still need both n8v teams, complexity, c9, avengers, matra, sq, locked, darkest hour

noble field
somber swift
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yep, just keeping tabs

abstract herald
abstract herald
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💰 QUALIFYING

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💰 160€

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TBA
💰 $1,500

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💰 QUALIFYING

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noble field
somber swift
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N8v white signed up

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No team changes that I saw

noble field
somber swift
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"hasn't given"?

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Do you mean "hasn't changed rosters, given all..."?

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Sorry, I'm tired

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still need n8v red, complexity, c9, avengers, matra, sq

noble field
tall mural
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when is dreamhack again?

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Oop nvm

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June 2-4 👍

feral remnant
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When are the next drops for streaming HCS

somber swift
abstract herald
somber swift
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Was anyone broadcasting the EU 2k today?
@abstract herald ?

abstract herald
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Unfortunately we brought only 26 teams 😢

tall mural
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dang

somber swift
grand pier
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Need 2 more for the 2k hmu asap

abstract herald
noble field
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Monster is streaming with a GoPro strapped to his head. LOL

tall mural
somber swift
noble field
somber swift
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That's amazing.
Good for him.
Sucks he HAD to do this to deal with the haters

tiny sparrow
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I'd probly get motion sickness watching that.

tall mural
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lmao

somber swift
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Navi retakes the throne in today's tournament, that's kinda cool

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and Luminosity got knocked into Loser's Finals today too, that's new - they came back to win grand finals and reset though

somber swift
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There's gonna be some teams disappointed with their own performance in the next games played in this NA 2K

Complexity v Sentinels, one gets knocked out and only makes top 12 - neither will be happy with a top 12 finish.
Same goes for N8V White v G1
Top 12 isn't 'good enough' for any of those 4 teams, expect maybe Complexity, given last week was a fluke.

quiet prairie
somber swift
abstract herald
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Aw0babobs and Jlingz can beat NAVI on Lan

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but none of these 3 teams can beat Quadrant on Lan

quiet prairie
tall mural
somber swift
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yep!

somber swift
noble field
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Odd that the Faze Clan is Friday and Saturday.

somber swift
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I guess they wanted it that way for their own viewership/staff?

abstract herald
abstract herald
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they couldn't have tournaments running the same day

noble field
somber swift
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Not really - the idea is to award HCS points in the NAVI hosted tournaments.
There is no world where they would host two different point yielding events on the same day.

somber swift
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We've got 4K qualifiers this Sunday, need some sign up links for Faceit.

I really hope they don't wait until the NA 2K is over, but they might.

abstract herald
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so we can't have 2 tournaments the same day

noble field
abstract herald
noble field
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The HCS is NA.

abstract herald
noble field
abstract herald
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so how can you compete in 2 tournaments at the same time ?

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Like for Quadrant 4K : Quadrant 4K was EU, but at the same time, there was HCS 4K in NA/MX/ANZ

noble field
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I know man. I asked originally why Faze was Friday and Saturday. So NA players will be in Faze and EU will be in 4k. What are you talking about?

abstract herald
noble field
abstract herald
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HCS does not want to have 2 partnered cups the same day

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and it's better like this

noble field
abstract herald
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They care about their Partnered Teams bc they don't want them to leave HCS

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They know that if they loose their partnered teams, the scene will die

noble field
abstract herald
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viewership should be the same, but participation may be affected

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but the main problem with participation is the Faceit team not uploading the tournaments 🤬

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The cups start in 2d and still not uploaded on faceit

somber swift
# noble field I get that. So why can’t Faze be on Sunday?

I think I see what you're getting at finally.

But typically, they want to keep similar tournaments on the same day, across regions.

So the 4Ks in other regions are on Saturday, to match the final of the Faze one.

It's probably also for logistical admins, too.

somber swift
noble field
somber swift
abstract herald
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Like the guy charged of uploading hcs.ee.gg HCS points, he's not doing his job regularly

somber swift
abstract herald
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idk what happened in the HCS/EE/FACEITHalo team, but something's wrong since 2023

abstract herald
somber swift
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idk about faceit either, but HCS team shrank a little - and they also took on additional responsibilities (Tashi now also responsible for Ranked playlists, not only HCS focused, which pulls his time away from HCS)

somber swift
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somber swift
tall mural
somber swift
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I say an announcement, but truthfully - they didn't announce it.

It's just part of the name of the tournament on the Faceit site - so it's another 'stealth' update.

spare jungle
abstract herald
abstract herald
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But this year, nothing for their $15,000 HCS FaZe Clan Online 4K Open Series

somber swift
somber swift
somber swift
arctic quiver
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Gamers Bubu the Dubu First

somber swift
somber swift
grand pagoda
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didnt think SSG would beat Faze especially 3 - 0

somber swift
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Right??

abstract herald
quiet prairie
abstract herald
quiet prairie
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....

somber swift
somber swift
quiet prairie
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pppfff

somber swift
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yeah 😦

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it was readily available in the twitch stream chat

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but looking for it outside of that is basically impossible

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makes it tough for people who want to look at historical things of tournaments, for sure.

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Faceit needs a FaceLift

quiet prairie
somber swift
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exactly

quartz jasper
somber swift
copper thunder
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The May Update sandbox changes seems to be on point! I think it was about time for dynamo and spike nades to be nerfed a bit so you can't just spam them for easy kills. I'm very curious to see how the disruptor is going to perform without damage over time but increase rate of fire and least but not last the shroud screen will have only one charge on pickup. I also like the changes to koth, i think these will make competitive Halo even better.

quiet prairie
somber swift
copper thunder
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ye i think they can make the changes for social as well, i don't see a problem with it

somber swift
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but so far, they won't be

somber swift
copper thunder
somber swift
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heh, yeah pretty solid

somber swift
tall mural
abstract herald
quiet prairie
abstract herald
quiet prairie
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Quadrant is not there :/

abstract herald
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They’ll bootcamping in USA at finals date, so it’s useless for them to play for the opens

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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They're going to NA in 2weeks, they can play this 4K (which is qualifier for Dallas btw), then they go NA, so they won't be able to play NAVI Open#3 and Finals, so useless for them to sign up today

abstract herald
somber swift
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Ok, I can see they did register

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Only 32 teams registered for NA right now is pretty bleak.
No Optic yet.

If they don't crack 80 teams...

abstract herald
somber swift
somber swift
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...and only 8 teams signed up for ANZ, meaning they ALL make it to next week.
No ANZ tournament held today

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F

quiet prairie
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yup its cancelled (it disapeared of faceit)

somber swift
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Anyone broadcasting the EU matches today?

abstract herald
abstract herald
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(if I'm not wrong)

torpid beacon
thorny crescent
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keep it constructive please

noble field
torpid beacon
# noble field Most of us here highly disagree.

"Most of you" 😂🤣. That's because nobody's left. Halo Infinite population dropped by over 99%. ANZ had less 8 team competed in their recent Online event so they had cancel it. Europe has just had it lowest amount of teams to ever compete in an online event

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@noble field Richie Heinz who works at 343 was talking on twitch about HCS is considering whether to drop halo Infinite as the competitive scene halo game currently. That's because it's doing so poorly. There's talk about going back to halo Reach or halo 5!

noble field
torpid beacon
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Also people ANZ could actually find ranked games when the game released now they can't. Europe had online tournaments or over 100 teams when the game released now theres only 20 - 30.

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The Fact HCS is considering to switch to a different main game shows that the game isn't doing well

somber swift
somber swift
torpid beacon
somber swift
torpid beacon
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Still typing Albi

copper thunder
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I feel like y'all are talking about different things, one thing is saying the game isn't popular and the playerbase is tiny compared to other games and that's true, another thing is saying Halo is bad as a competitive game and i disagree on that. CoD is way more casual than Halo but it's doing superb numbers because of how popular it is.

torpid beacon
copper thunder
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Like in the cdl they play on maps where you can camp underwater, glitch on stairs, it's way worse than Infinite imo

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somber swift
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I strongly doubt 343 is actually considering putting HCS onto a different title.

copper thunder
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I don't think it's bad and i've been enjoying the games a lot during season 1 and even more now in season 2

torpid beacon
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That's just you. There's a reason the playerbase died out. Halo 5 had 8 rank playlists. Halo infinite is struggling to keep 1 populated

copper thunder
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What everyone is saying is how different it feels from online to lan, but that has to do more with Azure than the game itself i think

torpid beacon
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No it has to do with Desyinc and the garbage engine they created the game on in the first place

torpid beacon
somber swift
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copper thunder
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Also i don't think the playerbase shrinked because the game isn't competitive, it's because there are not enough incentives to play, lack of content and good progression

somber swift
somber swift
torpid beacon
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No because the game is bad because of desyinc and the maps

somber swift
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@torpid beacon even in it's first year, the successful year, HCS probably profited $0.

Esports budgeting exists to promote the game for players and viewers to engage in the game itself, and then have the company earn profit from that.

There is no more profit to be squeezed out of h2 or 5, so there is no reason for MS to run a loss on a league for those titles.

somber swift
quiet prairie
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abstract herald
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I'm pretty certain they aren't doing their circuit at loss (it'd be the worst thing to do for them). When they're discussing about their circuit, they try to make it profitable to both of them and to the orgs competing

noble field
torpid beacon
somber swift
quiet prairie
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Tashi told that numbers for Year 1 were above target on average (especially viewership)

quiet prairie
somber swift
abstract herald
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torpid beacon
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but we're talking of HCS, they wouldn't if they'd loose money

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and there's no way they aren't

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a lan like Charlotte may be $500,000 budget

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and there's like 6 lans this year

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and 1 hosted by Optic

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1 by SSG, and another 1 by DH Dallas

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which means only 3 lans hosted directly by HCS

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they have a 2.5M circuit

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with maybe 8M spending

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if they can't make 8M/year for the biggest xbox game ever, then it's impossible

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I'm pretty certain they're making a lot of money with Infinite, and based on the profits they make each year, they calculate how much they'll put on the HCS circuit

somber swift
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I don't think they overall turn an actual profit just on HCS operations alone.

Perhaps if you didn't count the prize money.
Like, the prize money is essentially advertising budget.

The running of the events and paying staff etc likely is at least revenue neutral with ticket sales.

abstract herald
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you have to see the overall thing

somber swift
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Exactly, but just running HCS as a separate division wouldn't be profitable own it's own.

abstract herald
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(actually it could, but they don't bring enough spectators to make it profitable)

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for example : 10,000 visitors with a visitor-ticket price at $40 could bring $400,000 per lan

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but idk if they're bringing these numbers

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like 10,000 visitors + 100,000 viewers constant on stream (1M unique during the week-end) + 128 teams + sponsors could make each lan profitable to them.

But idk if they're reaching these numbers

somber swift
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So yes, they are running the circuit at a loss

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It's seen as an expense, to grow other areas of the game

abstract herald
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but for a game which is so ambitious, bringing 10,000 visitors for a lan should be something easy

somber swift
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Yes of course

abstract herald
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it should be the minimum to be honest

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They need to do something

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Like they can't be running events like this for ever

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it's time for 343i to do something and try bringing those numbers to their Majors :

  • 256 teams
  • 20,000 visitors
  • 200,000 constant viewers

and bring a huge circuit for 2024 with bigger ambitions and more advertising, bringing new orgs and bringing back orgs who left

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Europe :

  • Acend Club
  • Vexed Gaming

NA :

  • G2 Esports
  • Fnatic
  • Team War
  • Pioneers
  • XSET
  • Oxygen Esports
  • Eastern Media
  • Built By Gamers
  • The Guard
  • Torrent
  • UYU

Mexico :

  • Pittsburgh Knights
  • Team Cruelty
  • Timbers Esports

ANZ :

  • Dire Wolves
  • ChiefsESC
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Imagine the scene if we had all those teams back

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and time to invest in Europe

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COD is completely dead in EU, it's now an NA only game, so they can take advantage to this situation to bring massively new orgs and players in Europe

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with several lans, events etc...

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I had imagined something for next year like :

NA :

  • 3 Online Supers
  • 3 Majors
  • HWC

EU :

  • 3 Online Supers
  • 3 Regional Finals
  • 1 Global Invitational

MX :

  • 3 Online Supers
  • 3 Regional Finals
  • 1 Global Invitational

ANZ :

  • 3 Online Supers
  • 3 Regional Finals
  • 1 Global Invitational

Total :

  • Global LANs : 3 Majors (NA) + 3 Global Invitationals (EU/MX/ANZ)
  • Regional LANs : 9 (EU/MX/ANZ)
  • Online Supers : 12 (NA/EU/MX/ANZ)

(NA doesn't need Regionals since Majors are already there)

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and time to really invest on this game, and make it a leading esport game

quiet prairie
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3 Regional Finals: too much. Only 1

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Again, it's too late for most of the scene now. 343 can only stabilize

abstract herald
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COD has literally 1 Major per month

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and it's $500,000 of prize pool

abstract herald
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They CAN compete with top esports games

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they just need to have a competing circuit

quiet prairie
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and for a competing circuit you need what I said : 3 Regional Lans per region + 3 Online Supers + 1 global invitational

and for NA : 3 online supers + 3 majors + Worlds

abstract herald
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COD is now only a NA-only game

quiet prairie
abstract herald
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As you can see : NA only

abstract herald
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They need to bring back orgs who left, and to invest massively to bring new orgs, and to put multiple lans in every region, I think 4 is perfect (3 Regional + 1 Global) for EU/MX/ANZ and 3 Majors + Worlds for NA

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and if they're bringing orgs massively + a huge circuit like this, they'll be able to reach numbers like :
200k viewers on lans
20000 spectators/visitors at lans
etc....

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Really, and I'm honest, they can do a huge thing, they can build a giant esport community, they just need to work correctly on it and to DO it for next year

tall mural
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do some events not in Texas

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that’s the first step

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like they had events in other regions last year and they succeeded why stop

abstract herald
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they have 8 months to negotiate with orgs, plan the 2024 circuit and put massive investment on it

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they need to bring massive visibility to Halo Esports

tall mural
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yes

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hcs London when

somber swift
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tall mural
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Sad too seeing how many good players have come out of Europe like Bance cammy Afro and others

abstract herald
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they need to bring back G2, Fnatic, Team War, XSET, Kansas City Pioneers, Oxygen Esports, UYU, Pittsburgh Knights, ChiefsESC ....

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They made leave

tall mural
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at least luminosity came back

abstract herald
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Acend didn't

tall mural
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tall mural
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When

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They no longer have a team

abstract herald
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@tall mural have you seen my messages ?

tall mural
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I probably haven’t read all of them because there’s always a lot 💀

tall mural
abstract herald
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trying to mail, contact, dm them for months

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but HCS/Tashi never responded

tall mural
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that was for partnership

abstract herald
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That's what we call professionalism

winged cradle
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Vaktor, unless you have first hand knowledge, please don't spread false info.

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thank you.

abstract herald
winged cradle
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that's not first hand knowledge.

tall mural
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they left the scene nonetheless, they were just denied partnership

abstract herald
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bc that's not my words, that's the org words

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like the thing they got on Worlds, then HCS accusing the players on their twitter post

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while they changed the computers after the series, bc they knew issues were from the computers and not from the players

abstract herald
tall mural
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I’m not sure what you’re trying to get through here

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tall mural
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that's why i'm posting the official links with the same version

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  • version from the players
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When HCS do things right, we have to thanks them, but when they do things wrong, we have the right of criticism. Even if I love what they're doing, they have done wrong decisions with AcendClub and ChiefsESC

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there's also the thread of the guy from ChiefsESC explaining the same thing

tall mural
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And KCP

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while they had organised the biggest bootcamp ever, and being extremely active and invested on the scene (one of the most invested team)

tall mural
abstract herald
tall mural
abstract herald
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that's why they need to completely change this ecosystem

tall mural
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ashaman spawns

abstract herald
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and make it bigger

somber swift
# abstract herald They made leave

the orgs left because the game wasn't good enough.
And the viewership drops.
And the average playerbase drops.

Fixinf the online experience, adding in PvE, career rank will bring back casual players - and therefore viewers.
Once that's in place, Orgs will see reason to invest again.

tall mural
abstract herald
somber swift
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I think you should take a look at why G2, Team War, KCP, Acend, Pittsburgh Knights, OXG and ChiefsESC left

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i'm talking of those ones specifically

tall mural
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G2 was a partnered team but then left?

abstract herald
tall mural
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G2 oh the emoji still exists

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Fnatic oh EUnited

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why what

abstract herald
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Unfortunately I don't think after what happened ChiefsESC and Acend could come back, even if they'd get partnered

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for G2 idk, it'd depend of the offer they get

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I think Team War and OXG could eventually come back with a good offer

somber swift
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Orgs will invest if they think there is money to be made.

Some might think there isn't money to be made, for a variety of reasons.

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My belief is that the game just needs to be healthier for more orgs to invest

abstract herald
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that's not why they left

somber swift
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at the end of the day, yes it is

abstract herald
winged cradle
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i'm not "trying to deny" anything.

i'm saying you are seeing one side and it's a very heavily biased source

abstract herald
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yeah I understood sam

winged cradle
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so again, unless you ahve FIRST HAND INFO, you need to stop spreading misinformation.

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It's not optional.

abstract herald
winged cradle
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Bro.