general-chat

[steady jolt]

Let me find the details

The "10 year plan" for Halo never existed as it is parroted around. Infinite was announced as the start of the "next 10 years of Halo". It was never said to be the only thing for 10 years, or that it would be supported for 10 years

Since then a lot of things have changed - COVID drastically changed the landscape, Microsoft layoffs, leadership changes. Plans will change over time

[trim saddle]

Please pin this, I've seen so many people quote that in arguments.

[static swallow]

So basically.....
-The 10 Years plan didn't happen
-Split Screen was cancelled
-Campaign DLC was canned
-All the weapons we found in the files never became complete or came as cheaper versions (Hello FUEL ROD SPNKR)

that's a lot of unfullfilled potential and broken promises right here

[jade gust]

To paraphrase Chief in Infinite "Plans change, they always do"

[junior kestrel]

Make it a turret, and have a version for vehicles. Like the big vehicle the brutes had in halo 3.

[steady jolt]

There was never campaign DLC

[trim saddle]

Campaign DLC was never planned

[steady jolt]

Splitscreen was worked on right up passed launch, but due to launch issues they had to stop development. It was always planned to ship

[junior kestrel]

I'd like to see the reintroduction of fire weapons in halo.

Cause I hate people.

[ornate sequoia]

If I were to tackle misinformation as 343/Halo studios, I'd do it differently.

[junior kestrel]

Gimme a mission where the shotgun has dragons breath rounds against flood.

[trim saddle]

People grab any shred of info and run with it. It's ridiculous.

[ornate sequoia]

That's Grim AF dude

[static swallow]

i'd like the reintroduction of weapons period, because there were so many missing weapons in infinite

[steady jolt]

And we don't talk about what what data mined from files. That kind of stuff along with leaks are not allowed here

[obsidian wyvern]

first order of business, banning mint quitz from every halo title

[naive turret]

I'd still like a Flame Hog at some point. Alternating flame with a cannister launcher.

[junior kestrel]

Imagine a needler turret.

[naive turret]

They did that in H5 with a Hog right?

[junior kestrel]

No no. Fire tank.

[obsidian wyvern]

halo 5 had that

[jade gust]

You know they can't comment on every piece of misinformation, right? Because there's always people spreading misinformation

[ornate sequoia]

Mint Blitz deserves to work as an intern at Halo Studios IMO

[static swallow]

i wanted the brute shot and spiker back so bad....

[junior kestrel]

Yes actually.

[jade gust]

Sword Needler Hog my beloved!

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[naive turret]

A tank is too slow for a flame vehicle imo. You want mobility if it's gonna be a largely close range weapon.

[ornate sequoia]

He shouldn't be paid though, I don't think he has any technical skills, but he's a valuable asset

[naive turret]

🙏

[junior kestrel]

It's what was done in ww1 and 2. And later in some capcity.

[ornate sequoia]

OMG MAKE IT RAIN PAPI

[junior kestrel]

Also canister shell is basically a giant tank shotgunround.

[ornate sequoia]

(sorry got excited)

[naive turret]

I can tell lol

[static swallow]

Yes so basically they made a promise and didn't fullfill it

[jade gust]

Halo doesn't play like how things were done in WWI, we don't fight in trenches most the time

[junior kestrel]

I see your vision now.

[obsidian wyvern]

maybe a bike instead

[junior kestrel]

And we don't fall from space to deploy troops.

[ornate sequoia]

Bike must be hard to code

[junior kestrel]

Fire has been demonstrated to be cartoonishly effective against brutes and flood.

[jade gust]

If bikes were hard to code, we wouldn't have any vehicles in Halo

[steady jolt]

They had every intention of fulfilling it. It's not like they intentionally did it to piss people off. It had to be dropped so that other features and bug fixes had resources

[obsidian wyvern]

man, making a game must be hard. they should stop doing that

[junior kestrel]

Choper and ghost are bikes. Of sorts.

[jade gust]

Well, Halo is really a book series with tie-in games

[ornate sequoia]

Ghost is more like a land-plane 😭

[junior kestrel]

I think it's more that bikes would be hard to control with halo's physics and control model.

[obsidian wyvern]

writing a book is hard, they shouldnt do that either

[junior kestrel]

Nuh uh

[jade gust]

Chopper and Mongoose both exist

The Mongoose is a Quadbike, yes, but that falls under the umbrella

[junior kestrel]

Chopper is bigger than most cars and the mongoose is a quad. And is still really floaty.

[obsidian wyvern]

but its a bike

[dense stag]

Ngl it’s kinda strange how halo infinite came out almost 4 yrs ago

[ornate sequoia]

I miss the Mongoose, halo 3 ❤️

[dense stag]

I remember staring at the menu screen when I first downloaded it

[static swallow]

oh i'm sure it was more due to management issues than because of the team but the result is the same.......we didn't get Split Screen after being litterally promised Split Screen would always be a thing going forward on STAGE

[junior kestrel]

The mongoose hasn't gone anywhere?

[naive turret]

I support the bike addition.

[ornate sequoia]

oh snap you're right... my brain is rotting

[junior kestrel]

I agree.

[steady jolt]

It was due to technical resourcing

[jade gust]

Just recreate the bike from RvB 9 that Tex had and I doubt anyone would complain

Well, someone would but eh

[junior kestrel]

Give me the ability to weild a single handed gun with it and we're golden.

[snow abyss]

Isn’t the mongoose as big as the cars in new Mombassa in ODST?

[junior kestrel]

Like a gl. Or smg. Or spiker.

[jade gust]

Or just mount some guns onto it

[junior kestrel]

Call it the rattle snake or smt.

[static swallow]

honestly with all this technical shenanigan caused by Slipspace engine i wonder why it was ever a thing to begin with if it was such a nightmare to work with

[naive turret]

Genets are really small apparently lol

[ornate sequoia]

I had the bestest idea for mongoose feature, "jump"...
like maybe a one-time mechanism

[snow abyss]

Oh, that makes sense then I always thought it was funny 😂

[junior kestrel]

Mongeese are made partly for spartans.

[dense stag]

Guys I have an idea HS should do a CE remake to test out unreal engine stuff

[junior kestrel]

Imagine how strong the shocks are to take half ton humans.

[naive turret]

It knows. I don't know what but it knows.

[junior kestrel]

Gundam car looking ahhh

[jade gust]

Mongooses aren't made with Spartans in mind, they just happen to be able to support the weight of a Spartan

[ornate sequoia]

You mean chaining multiple mongoose together and driving to enemy base as a mongoose-train ?

[snow abyss]

Tbh if an electric car company made one of those I’d buy it

[naive turret]

I figure you've gotta lie down inside it like an old lambo.

[junior kestrel]

@naive turret what would you name the unsc motorcycle?

[naive turret]

We've got the jackrabbit already so I mean

[obsidian wyvern]

its already got a name

[junior kestrel]

I'm thinking rattle snake. Momba. Or perhaps uhhh... idk rat?

Calm down bro.

[snow abyss]

Well that was rude

[junior kestrel]

That's actually... jeez

I don't like tesla but like. Wow.

[naive turret]

I feel like a snake name would fork for a train, cause y'know.

[dense stag]

Do you guys think 5 did very well in terms of sandbox

[opaque current]

EV's are the death of the automobile

[snow abyss]

I said electric car company I never said tesla

[dense stag]

Why don’t the FPS games get the halo wars vehicles

[snow abyss]

EV’s are cool 😉

[junior kestrel]

Fair.

[dense stag]

Imagine a halo with the gun variety of halo 5 and vehicle variety of halo wars in warzone

Halo 5 + infinite weapons and all its variants

[junior kestrel]

It's the big one so everyone assumes.

[obsidian wyvern]

i feel like halo 5 had too many variants

[snow abyss]

That’s fair

[junior kestrel]

Yeah. They are.

Frankly I'd rather have hydrogen car companies actually become a thing.

[dense stag]

Why is too many bad exactly? Just curious

[naive turret]

A lot of them have a lot of moving parts or roles that wouldn't be realistic in MP

Like the Kodiak, or the Rhino

[junior kestrel]

So rat?

Of ferret?

[naive turret]

The Wolverine? We have the Rocket Hog

[trim saddle]

I miss the gauss hog

[obsidian wyvern]

made it hard for me to remember what exactly each does, plus some of them are redundant. im down for a variant of each weapon but having 2/3 of each is kinda annoying

[junior kestrel]

Wolverine is dedicated anti air.

And well. You don't always want technicals (warthogs)

[static swallow]

as long as these stupid lootboxes don't come back i'd find it cool personally

[cedar turret]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-time-wolverine-picture-gif-20229631

[static swallow]

because that was Warzone's biggest flaw, it turned this cool gamemode into a pay to win

[junior kestrel]

For that matter the razorback should have been more like a humvee or jltv.

We need more different types of vehicles in halo.

[trim saddle]

I just played warzone firefight to avoid that.

[ornate sequoia]

The changes of halo 5 remake must be at least > 0% right guys?

[dense stag]

I guess that’s true. Quality of quantity. But what about the multiplayer having like the variants from previous games? Like the halo CE magnum or halo 2 BR. That was kinda cool

[static swallow]

really a shame because Warzone was awesome in concept i wish they experimented more with that

[junior kestrel]

If you ask me 100% of halo 5 should be changed

[steady jolt]

You couldn't just pay your way to victory in Warzone though, you still had to earn the ability to use weapons and stuff in game

[obsidian wyvern]

sure i guess, it was kinda neat to have those 2 in particular, but it just added to the never ending variants lol

[ornate sequoia]

Halo 5 with 3-extra campaign levels would slap so much. Boss Cortana at the end was insane 🥵

[dense stag]

Also they drop the weapons once they die anyway. I just pick up whatever I find

[naive turret]

Everyone always just traffic jams with Scorpions to shell the last boss anyway

In WZ FF at least

[static swallow]

yeah yeah but i doub't you're gonna stand much chances in later parts of the match (when you've "earned" the right to use these things) when the other player has a beam rifle that can shoot vortexes and an overshield while you're stuck with the base gear just because you didn't spend enough money

[jade gust]

You don't fight Cortana in a boss fight in Halo 5

[junior kestrel]

Yeah but it provided an unfair advantage to already skilled players preventing players who didn't have the same ability from conpeting or finding ways to overcome their lack of individual skill through map knowledge.

[static swallow]

exactly^

[jade gust]

I never felt at a disadvantage when I played Halo 5 and got everything without paying for it

[junior kestrel]

I mean I'd rework 343's whole trilogy structure to have 5 at the end or start a new trilogy.

[static swallow]

even if there was a level cap during the match to prevent early heavy weapon spam you still had to spend money to get them and they were in limited quantities

[signal wedge]

I think Halo 7 needs 1000 dollar skins

[jade gust]

Like, outside of the game itself and the Voices of War pack so I could have Buck as my announcer, I didn't pay for anything in the REQ store with real money

[static swallow]

even if you reach that part of the match where you can use the heavy stuff, if you don't have any of said heavy stuff, you're screwed

[junior kestrel]

I'd be fine with silly things like announcer voices.

[junior kestrel]

Unless you actually are good enough to avoid it. Which... likely not really.

[static swallow]

i agree, Halo 5 should just be redone completely

[junior kestrel]

The 343 trilogy could use a narrative makover to be more coherent and lead into one another.

[static swallow]

yes although for Infinite it was "more or less our fault", since the story had to be rewritten mid developement due to Halo 5 backclash or so i've been told

sorta like a Star Wars 9 situation

[signal wedge]

But Books

Halo wants gamers to read books

[ornate sequoia]

Ew books

[static swallow]

Where the team had a certain story planned but had to can it and change everything at the last minute for desperate fanservice even if it means destroying everything the trilogy had set up up to that point

[signal wedge]

Halo should do novelisations of their games, instead of stories that makes it a must to read to understand the story

[static swallow]

that's a problem with 343 Games too, they rely too much on the extended universe like the books and stuff

like when i first played Halo 5 i didn't have the slightest idea of what the heck was going on because the game never explains what events XY and Z are and the intro doesn't introduce any character or context to instead throw as much badly choreographed action as possible

[signal wedge]

Books are fine if they are stories separate of the main games

[static swallow]

let's not forget that Halo is a GAME series first and foremost, let us see these cool events in the GAMES

[jade gust]

I wouldn't really say learning about when Buck became a Spartan was important to Halo 5's story

And most the material released before Halo 5 did not have much importance to what Halo 5's story, at least not in any meaningful way

Like, you didn't need Escalation to understand why Halsey was with Jul at the start, we learn that at the end of Spartan Ops

[junior kestrel]

My proposal is as such: roll halo's story further down.

Place the banished as a rival faction for Jul's covenant as well as the swords.

Greeny colours for the swords,

Blue and cool colours for storm/jul

Red and warm colours for banished. (Who largely has uparmoured variants of the traditional vehicles.)

During 4 have parrellel missions from the didacts pov as we jump between him and chief. Leading up to his imprisonment and release at the same time in the story.

This way people will get him in the actual story and main plot.

Didacts missions would be focused on fighting the flood.

Spartan ops introduces the conflict between the 3 covenant splinters, how we have a decent aliance with the swords, a cold war with the banished and Jul's forces being basically space terrorists.

5 expanding upon didact and stuff with chief going rogue or smt to take him down.

Spartan ops 2 expanding upon the banished amd stuff as we see Jul's covenant crumble

And 6 reintroducing "cortana" and the guardians as something activated by didact. With the ending mission being Cortana realsing how far she took everything and destroying herself and the Didact in order to save John. Or smt.

[jade gust]

And nothing from Nightfall did anything important for Locke in Halo 5

[prisma roost]

Carl's Jr. Portobello Mushroom Burger

[jade gust]

Having missions where you play as the Didact leading up to his reveal would ruin the reveal of there being a living Forerunner

[junior kestrel]

I'd say having most of the character details being in other media like vale not really having much and we are just told her backstory and locke being more wooden than chief and 6 combined.

[jade gust]

We don't learn Captain Keyes' backstory in Combat Evolved either. Is that a problem with Combat Evolved?

[junior kestrel]

Not really. If the mission after is release was him being imprisoned.

Sorta: how did we get here.

[junior kestrel]

No. But we get a strong sense of his deal and personality.

It's about. Presentation.

[jade gust]

That's not what this is saying at all, which is something you specifically said

[signal wedge]

cant wait for the next book. Here is hoping that some familiar characters return. Like Lasky

[junior kestrel]

Well it can be adjusted to help maintain the reveal.

[placid tree]

Honestly for the next Halo…I would just copy 5. Then the merciless corporate suits are happy, and plenty of players are happy, it’s really not that aggressive

[junior kestrel]

Plus it'd have to be from the start otherwise it'd be weird to suddenly have a perspective sawp half way through the game when we've only been following chief.

[placid tree]

Infinitely better than how…well…Infinite handled it

[junior kestrel]

...

[placid tree]

I didn’t even mean to do that lol

[jade gust]

Ok, that's different to needing the books to understand the story. I don't disagree that Halo 5 didn't do a good job with the portrayal of its characters, but trying to blame it on something which wasn't the problem in the first place isn't right

[junior kestrel]

Battlefront 2 killed that possibility.

[junior kestrel]

Maybe. Perhaps the yter propaganda has rotted my mind.

[jade gust]

I remember the last time Halo decided to try having a different perspective in a Chief focused game, people got upset about not playing as Chief. It also happened back when Halo 2 released as well

[junior kestrel]

Still.

We ought to have more in your face presentation to get a better sense of the character's personalities.

Ignoring buck cause he persists to be the best.

[junior kestrel]

Yeah.

And then people realised it was the best halo story.

5 did it. But so so much worse.

You were barely chief.

3 missions.

[jade gust]

Because they wanted to try something different

[junior kestrel]

2 is an even split.

[junior kestrel]

Doesn't mean it was the best option tbh.

[naive turret]

I'll do the 'H5 would've been better without Chief's perspective' comment now.

[junior kestrel]

Not to mention 5's marketing did feed into a different idea of what the story was about.

[jade gust]

Like, the problem with Halo 5 isn't the imbalance of Chief and Locke missions, it's the overall narrative. Had they nailed the story, I imagine most people wouldn't have minded the fact Locke was the person we played the most

[naive turret]

Any vagueness or buildup to a conflict with Chief or wondering if he'd actually gone rogue is kind of null when you literally see him not do that.

[junior kestrel]

Maybe.

[jade gust]

Better to try something different than constantly retread the same thing over and over

[steady jolt]

The Halo 5 panel at World's was interesting, they talked about a lot of this stuff with folk that worked on the game at the time

[jade gust]

I honestly wish they had kept him going alone and have it where Osiris is working with the other members of Blue in tracking him down

[junior kestrel]

It's arguably worse when it fails if you ask me.

What's new worth when it's worse.

[jade gust]

So you'd rather they just play it safe all the time?

[junior kestrel]

No. Not at all. But you can't expect me to be happy with how it went down.

[naive turret]

I think trying to play safe and being poorly executed is worse.
Because then what lessons were learned, what novelty do we get out of it.

[junior kestrel]

Plus the dual campaign with didact flashback missions is prolly more different. Even split sure but really different.

[junior kestrel]

Agreed. Infinite for instance. Safe new formula. Worked in odst. Could have worked here. Didn't really work out. Campaign was liked for like 3 months to half a year than people turned on it.

[naive turret]

k

[junior kestrel]

The lessons ig...

[jade gust]

I wouldn't really say Halo Infinite was playing it safe with the campaign structure. It was a big departure from the norm for Halo to go with an open world environment

[junior kestrel]

Hmm...

Maybe. But not that big. More just a wider odst format.

Like... way wider. To the point we get floating point errors.

[jade gust]

ODST is much closer to the format of a traditional Halo title than Infinite was

And you're saying it was "wider" than ODST. What do you mean by that?

[junior kestrel]

True. But New Mombasa streets had roaming patrols and the first instance of audio log terminals.

[sharp marsh]

Hi

[junior kestrel]

Wider map.

Little taller too.

Would have prolly been better served with snow or sand in some areas.

On another matter I think it'd have been dope if the mcfarlne halo figure range was revived.

Idk how extensive the jazzwares line was.

[jade gust]

Enemy patrols would roam around specific areas in the older Halo games, ODST simply just expanded on that

[hybrid plover]

my upstairs neighbor just randomly screams. and loud. it’s so annoying

[junior kestrel]

I see.

Regardless I'd try to make halo guardians more... dramatic and have the characters emote a little more.

We get a dedicated cutscene to Tanaka comparing meridian to her home world for instance.

[jade gust]

If you waited around, you'd get dialogue like that

[junior kestrel]

Less character/story critical dialogue mid mission. Keep it focused in cutscenes.

[junior kestrel]

Yeah. It also plays during combat. But it's not gonna be paid much attention to when you have abt a dozen or more enemies on screen.

It's more a failure of game design than actual story craft.

So like I said. Keep charactet and story critical dialogue, which you NEED the player to understand in order to get the most out of the story.

[stuck wind]

With the last halo infinite update, my guess is CE remake is coming January-march

[junior kestrel]

Ehhh

[steady jolt]

No way it's that soon lol

[junior kestrel]

Seems too early.

Besides most games get announced way in advanced

[steady jolt]

The target is most likely to be between October and December next year

[junior kestrel]

Most likely november november in line for the 25th anniversary

https://youtu.be/MQt2idp2Mtk?si=XPefD4VUs3CubhB-

Quick aside. These look fantastic.

I hate that I never got the opportunity to have my own.

[meager linden]

Evening people of Halo

[serene crow]

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[calm fiber]

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[pulsar heron]

afternoon, gamers!

[signal wedge]

Good ebening. 2500 word essay left and then I can start looking for a JOB

[junior kestrel]

Ngl...

I'd kinda want gore in halo. Specifically applied to certain weapons to do so. Like sniper rifle ripping off arms and deforming heads. Shotgun well. Doing the doom thing. And so on.

Oh and brutes being exceptionally violent.

[signal wedge]

Blood splatter and disintegration is enough. The gore is in the books with detailed description

Bones breaking, mangled bodies and plasma induced burns

making the ratings go up means they lose the 👶🏼 - 🔞 demographic

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-day-bill-murray-phil-reporter-gif-17890215

[junior kestrel]

Nuh uh. Cod has high rating and still rakes in... that demographic. Somehow.

[signal wedge]

Oh yeah people dont care. I forgot

[candid solar]

Parents don't normally care about ratings lmao

[signal wedge]

I played the no russian mission when I was like 10

[jade gust]

I couldn't care less what the rating of the next Halo game is honestly

But like, Halo has never been known for stuff like dismemberment or enemies all being brutally torn apart by weapon's fire

[pulsar heron]

i think a change in the representation of violence would drive many people away from halo, because it's just not what people would expect. yes, you can consider the flood gore (as body horror), and yes the brutes could feasibly be more brutal if they're ever represented in the games again - but i think halo is generally not associated very strongly with gore on a whole

[misty marsh]

Pegi 18 needs much more explicitly gross violence if its just based off violence alone. Otherwise there'd need to be other nsfw activity going on on top of that violence to make the rating go that high and those things wouldnt really fit into a halo game anyway (god forbid). So 16 is likely the max rating we'll ever get anyway

[junior kestrel]

They only care about names.

[pulsar heron]

i think if you want a gory game there are many out there. and its also worth mentioning "gore" as a concept means different things to different people - when some say they want gore, they mean excessive blood, some mean they want dismemberment and organs, and some just want something deeply unsettling

[junior kestrel]

World at war and the black ops games let you turn people to nuggets.

[naive turret]

The way CE:V is portraying it seems good to me. Just needs better shield flare readability.
Oh, and reactive Jackal shields.

No, that's not a gore thing. But it is a hit-feedback element which is the underlying issue imo.

[trim saddle]

Ohai!

[jade gust]

Good thing they've already said the shield flare readability is gonna be better than what the demo had

[random glacier]

Just got here. You talking about for the remake?

[naive turret]

I'd like the option to turn off hitmarkers too. Doubtful that'll be a consideration but still.

[random glacier]

I feel like the way enemies reacted back then is how you know hit them, now they just use hit markers

[naive turret]

It's a dopamine mechanic, all do respect.

[random glacier]

Yeah, personally I’m not a fan of the hit markers

[junior kestrel]

It feedback is good period.

I could so with the hitmarkers cause it's campaign only tho.

Speaking of blood and vicera. I kinda want a visor clean mechanic, like in republic commando. Express it as some sort of sheild flaring clearing the visor.

[hasty zinc]

I def don't want that

that's too much

[jade gust]

I always found that more distracting when I played Republic Commando

[random glacier]

Yeah, I’d rather not either

[jade gust]

Like, it was punishing you for getting up close to an enemy

[hexed geyser]

operation infinite is like if fortnite dropped a new seasonal update called fortnite sumthin idk

[jade gust]

Sure it's more realistic but just because something makes a game feel more realistic, it doesn't mean it makes it better

[random glacier]

And in Halo it’s supposed to be rewarding back smacking a grunt with your AR

Especially when they’re sleeping like in assault on the control room

[junior kestrel]

Which reminds me.

The halo show was really violent. So it seems like they got contradictory priorites.

[jade gust]

TV can get away with things that games can't

[junior kestrel]

I just think it looks cool.

[random glacier]

I really did not like the Halo show even a little bit

[junior kestrel]

That seems silly.

[junior kestrel]

Me either. Only thing I did enjoy was the violence.

[jade gust]

TV has been round longer than games as a medium and is more widely respected as a storytelling medium

[hexed geyser]

what switch game should i get next

[naive turret]

I don't think it's a medium thing, games can be as if not more horrific in depictions of violence than television.
The show chose to be more visceral, that was up to the creatives.

[hasty zinc]

DK Bananza

[hexed geyser]

ok

[random glacier]

I feel like respect for game story telling in recent years has actually shifted more positively as a viable way to tell a story

[jade gust]

Sure but usually TV and film gore is given a bit more leeway compared to games

[trim saddle]

I don't want another red jello visor effect when you got shot. It was annoying in CoD.

[naive turret]

Least favourite aspect of ODST.

Never liked the Jam system for damage indication.

[jade gust]

It has definitely shifted but I still find people who go "What do you mean video games can have stories"

[random glacier]

That really does suck that some people still think that way

[junior kestrel]

... prior halos had gore. The mangled elite in ce and the flood.

Moreover gore has been in fps since it's inception as we knos it. Wolfen, quake, doom.

Furthermore cod has had intense violence and gore for years.

[placid tree]

Kinda ironic what this new operation is called but I suppose it’s fitting lol

[naive turret]

If anything I think the show probably leaned harder into gore because you need to try harder to sell the impact when you're not in control.

It'd have been an interesting question to ask production.

[normal owl]

Outside of our [thankfully growing] echo chamber of the sub-group of gamers who have seen moving stories presented by video games, unfortunately most media consumers do not hold games on equal footing for cinematic potential.

[junior kestrel]

Transformations are cool and the music is nice.

[jade gust]

We never get an up close look at the mangled Elite's body, it's mostly off camera in the scene, plus the graphics of the time were not realistic, not to mention the Elite is not a human, they're usually less strict about non-humans and gore

[junior kestrel]

Shame you can't anymore.

[random glacier]

I found a way to do it, it actually looks really cool

[hasty zinc]

the throwbacks to older game levels had me cheesin

[hexed geyser]

i think my 10 y/o bro will like bananza as well cuz the same team at Nintendo made another game he played which is Mario Oddyssey

[random glacier]

They had mangled human models that were cut from the game just before release by bungie

[normal owl]

Are you going to buy it for him?

[junior kestrel]

Also your point is kinda muted by the fact that halo's own cousin Gears of war... just... yk exsisting.

[jade gust]

How is Gears of War somehow making my point mute? It's a separate game series

[placid tree]

My problem is that frankly, I think most of these “cinematic games” handle storytelling in a boring way where they just try to be a movie with fancy cutscenes and talking. I think videogames have a unique capability for storytelling through gameplay, it’s why I love environmental storytelling so much in games. I just wish we would see more varied storytelling in most of these big budget cinematic affairs rather than just long cutscenes where I’m moreso watching a good movie than playing a good game story section. I suppose I just wish I was playing amazing stories more often than I was watching them…this is mainly bitterness over Uncharted and God of War lol

[hasty zinc]

this is not applicable or related at all

[normal owl]

IPs do their own thing. That's why we don't have Bloody Tetris (though, should we??)

[jade gust]

Do we want the Tetris blocks to be bleeding?

[naive turret]

LOL

[normal owl]

each falling block body slams the blocks below it

[steady jolt]

Crumble into chunks

[jade gust]

I'd be concerned if I loaded up Tetris and suddenly they started bleeding out

[placid tree]

Horizon tho handles it with flying colors, cool cutscenes, environmental storytelling, tons of text logs, audio logs, does it get any better?

[junior kestrel]

It being a seperate series is immaterial when the conversation is about mediums and what they can get away with.

If gears and doom can get away with all that.

So can halo.

Halo could probably get away with worse by virtue of it being blue and purple blooded aliens

[naive turret]

"And then the square block looked at me with hyper-realistic eyes and crying blood"

[hasty zinc]

spoilers :\

[jade gust]

https://tenor.com/view/dandadan-dumbfounded-momo-ayase-ayase-momo-ken-takakura-gif-14575386895602202640

[naive turret]

Actually y'know people dunk on gore as a meme now that I think about it lol

Since it's so associated with try-hard creepypastas

[junior kestrel]

False equivancy. Not even remotely related genre.

[hexed geyser]

well i am planning on getting a job at a gamestore so i can get him a switch 2

[jade gust]

Attorney put it perfectly, IPs do their own thing. Just because one franchise is full of blood and guts and gore, doesn't mean all others owned by the same company should

[hasty zinc]

...

[random glacier]

I just like how the remake brings back the comical amounts of cartoony blood that halo had

[jade gust]

It'd be like saying that the next Disney Princess film should be full of murder and violence because Disney also own Alien

[naive turret]

"And then Mario reached out of the screen with a bloody glove and said 'lets-a-go'"

[normal owl]

That is an awesome and noble goal: to put in your own hard work to bring happiness to your brother. He's lucky to have you!

[normal owl]

literally laughed aloud

[jade gust]

Smash cut to gameplay of that one "Mario if it was made in Unreal Engine" video people love to meme about

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-hell-tales-from-the-hood-2-keith-david-sklarlight-gif-3564358203074485839

[junior kestrel]

I still think halo could benefit from it.

[junior kestrel]

Especially since the main guns are 7.62x51 rifles and a 50 cal semi armour piercing explosivr pistol.

[jade gust]

Most people playing the games don't care what calibur the rounds are in most the weapons

[junior kestrel]

Halo is very far from that.

And as I said. The flood. They ARE gore.

[normal owl]

Animal Crossing refusing to add fatalities is cowardice and creative bankruptcy.

[random glacier]

The flood better look really gross in the remake

[naive turret]

I imagine active-infections are gonna be a thing in CE:V since that was a mechanical advancement made after CE.
And that's probably gonna be quite visceral.

[junior kestrel]

Perhaps. But I care. And it'd be cool. It'd also demonstrate some level of creative chops ti see how they would realise the anatomy.

[junior kestrel]

I want them to be black, rotting and necrotic

[indigo lotus]

It had been said before. Halo’s M rating is basically equal to a PG-13 film. It has blood, violence and mild swearing not the R rating like current CoD and Gears of War has. And as mentioned before ESRB sre the oned who make the ratings

[naive turret]

Not green, blobby and fungus like?

[jade gust]

I was using two examples of IPs which are different owned by a single company

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-halo-ce-halo-flood-flood-flood-carrier-form-gif-10381700026276652553

[normal owl]

the dandruff is horrifying!

[junior kestrel]

Swiggly little popcorn burster.

[placid tree]

Yeah I mean Halo has violence but it’s not ridiculous levels of blood and gore like some would make you believe lol

[naive turret]

He needs Head & Shoulders, mostly cause he doesn't have any

[junior kestrel]

They're flesh and blood still.

Idk any flesh that turns green tbh...

Unless there is.

[jade gust]

You know they don't need to go more gory to figure out the anatomy of the aliens, right? Pretty sure Mass Effect has the anatomy of all the aliens figured out and that series doesn't really have too much gore

[junior kestrel]

Also it'd be cool to see the grunts become carrier forms as well as jackals get their own combat form.

[tropic kiln]

the only gore scene in the entire franchise is where keyes finds that dead elite on 343 guilty spark

[naive turret]

Well there's the Composer disintegration scene

[random glacier]

Keep that element in there too!!

[jade gust]

Halo 4's got the gorriest, but it's over pretty qu- Yeah, that scene

[naive turret]

And the Keyes Terminal is pretty grim. Though that's more on a concept level.

[junior kestrel]

I mean it'd be cool to see in a violent context.

[hexed geyser]

i remember when 10y/o bro called one of the flood forms an octopus when he was 5 or 6

[junior kestrel]

I felt kinda bad for the science lady. She was polite.

[normal owl]

I don't need Resident Halo Kombat.

[jade gust]

Grim, I feel like you're just wanting to have gore for the sake of violence without thinking about the why of why you want it

[placid tree]

Even then, it’s more disturbing from strong art direction than from something like blood or flesh going everywhere

[naive turret]

Caaan't discuss that particular mod here.

[naive turret]

Gears of Halo Theft Auto 9: Return to Racoon Village

[jade gust]

Aye, like, the fact that everyone composed is just a pile of dust is way more disturbing than just a pile of guts

[junior kestrel]

So?

There anything wrong with wanting excessive violence in my games?

[normal owl]

No wonder it was delayed until the 25th anniversary of Halo

[naive turret]

(real)

[junior kestrel]

How come? Against tos?

[naive turret]

Yes.

[jade gust]

Not every game needs excessive violence

[placid tree]

Dude the lighting when Chief gets up and it’s like dark and grey with ash, that hits harder than just some corpses

[naive turret]

The concept of implied violence is something that hasn't really been brought up either.
There's an art in restraint.

[jade gust]

It's such a fantastically done scene honestly

[junior kestrel]

Could you educate me on that matter?

[naive turret]

Stolen Assets, as I said it's not to be discussed.

[indigo lotus]

I got to wait a year. Hopefully enough time for to add things iron out bugs and others and most likely more time to add GTA Roleplay elements in.

[placid tree]

Halo 4 does have a pretty decent amount of those, really aided by how strong the performances are

[junior kestrel]

True. But there's also an art in it's absence.

[junior kestrel]

Oh...

Wait how?

[jade gust]

Indeed, like the scene in RE2make with the gun-shop owner and his daughter during Leon's side of the story

[junior kestrel]

That's terrible!!!

(The stollen assets)

[random glacier]

Wait, I haven’t really had time to discuss this. What do you think some of the newer weapons they’re adding to Campaign Evolved will be? Off topic I know

[placid tree]

Letting the audience’s imagination fill in the blanks can be more terrifying than anything visual could’ve been

[placid tree]

Fingers crossed for Flamethrower

[random glacier]

That’d be pretty fire literally speaking

[jade gust]

Honestly, it's got some of the best performances Steve has given in the series. Though admittedly, I think the scene where he sits down with [REDACTED] is the one which resonates with me more these days due to my own experiences

[junior kestrel]

Mixed. On one hand I like stuff like the needle rifle returning.

On the other I like the very focused and small sandbox of ce. I'd be content with the sword and fuel rod being playable.

[normal owl]

I think there is a way to keep Halo the way it is and also satisfy Grim's gorelust: Grim, keep a pile of these next to you every time you play Halo. After every melee kill, smash one of them for chunky guts to fly everywhere. 4d gore, you're welcome.

[indigo lotus]

I think the gun-shop owner’s death in the original 2 was more more gruesome in my opinion.

[placid tree]

…is that an Infinite thing? I haven’t played it yet

[random glacier]

Yes, it’s always been a dream to have those weapons in the campaign

[hexed geyser]

what game do you guys think would crossover greatly with halo

[jade gust]

Ah, I will not say anything else, don't want to spoil it

[candid solar]

My roommate woke me up early because his car window shattered

I am suffering right now

[random glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/odst-halo-3-halo-3-odst-gif-11219785892316598476

[junior kestrel]

It's well performed but that scene in particular didn't resonate with me much.

Yeah it's supposed to be a sort of confession. But yk.

Also why redact esparza's name?

[jade gust]

Well, we have the BR, Needle Rifle, Sentinel Beam, Fuel Rod and Energy Sword all confirmed to be useable in the remake. My hope is we'll get the SMG, not sure what other weapons they'll bring in

[junior kestrel]

Sorry to hear that. Sounds horrid.

[hexed geyser]

🙁 oh i feel bad for him, will he get it fixed?

[jade gust]

I don't want to spoil stuff about Infinite for TapSnapNap

[random glacier]

Imagine if they brought more niche cool weapons from Reach

[junior kestrel]

Game has been out for 4 years.

[placid tree]

Appreciated

[jade gust]

And some people like to not get spoilt, regardless of how long a game has been out

[naive turret]

And if someone has made it known they're experiencing it for the first time it's courteous to not spoil it in front of them.

[junior kestrel]

I would actually be quite favorable to the gl.

[warm warren]

Sups

[junior kestrel]

Fair.

[jade gust]

Outside of the Concussion Rifle, there's not really any weapons which are from Reach I'd want to see in CEV

[junior kestrel]

I'd prefer the brute shot. Similar utility. Different design.

[jade gust]

But even then, I would want the Concussion Rifle to be heavily buffed compared to its Reach counterpart

[junior kestrel]

Or even a 30 mm underbarrel mag fed gl.

[jade gust]

I don't think Brutes are gonna be in the CEremake

[random glacier]

The only reach weapon I really did not like was plasma repeater. I felt like it was just a worse version of the plasma rifle

[jade gust]

And I doubt we'll be seeing weapon attachments

[junior kestrel]

I hope not. But the weapon itself has more gas than the concusipn rifle.

[peak sequoia]

Cant believe we are at infinite’s final update

[jade gust]

I am so glad I am not the only one who dislikes the Plasma Repeater

[peak sequoia]

It’s been great guys

[junior kestrel]

Ik. But it's a cool thought. Plus already designed by bungie in the earlier builds. As well as restored in digsite.

[jade gust]

Ok but why would the Brute Shot be there if there's no Brutes

[random glacier]

Yeah, I mean I feel like Reach’s sand box would be pretty much unchanged without it

[junior kestrel]

So redundant lol. Just have manual venting for all the plasma weapons.

[naive turret]

I wonder if the MG and Plasma turrets are gonna be counted amongst the nine new weapons.
They'd make sense for a good few encounters.

[jade gust]

Just because it was in a cut build for CE, doesn't mean they might add it into the Combat Evolved remake

[jade gust]

Aye, I always leave it on the ground since there's just better weapons to go with

[junior kestrel]

Fair.

Which reminds me. Why was there a g hammer when there were no brutes in 4?

[naive turret]

Grifball.

[jade gust]

Plasma Cannons set up outside the containment facilities would be great

[junior kestrel]

True. But it'd be really wicked you gotta admit.

[jade gust]

The best game since itself!!

[random glacier]

I’ve never actually seen someone use it unless there was no other option

[junior kestrel]

In the campaign?

There's a room with a g hammer on a floaty thing in the campaign.

It's the pelican mission I think.

[naive turret]

I'm assuming they wanted an excuse to let you use it so they threw it into an armory.

[jade gust]

Honestly, the Storm Rifle was a better take on the Plasma Repeater concept anyway, just a shame only Halo 5 had it and a Plasma Rifle together in one sandbox

[junior kestrel]

Imagine grifball 2. You gotta smash an orange coloured player.

Wait the ball carrier turns orange if I remember.

[jade gust]

Yes, the ball turns you into Grif

[random glacier]

I really do enjoy the storm rifle, yeah

[junior kestrel]

4 could have used brutes. They were in reach.

Even tho they were pretty weak.

[placid tree]

I would like the storm rifle more if I felt like it did anything but that’s kinda my issue with anything that isn’t a precision weapon lol

[naive turret]

I don't think it'd make sense for Jul's forces to have allied with Brutes.
That silly thing called the Schism kinda happened.

[placid tree]

I am a precision weapon obsessed person

[jade gust]

Halo's always had a balance bias towards precision to be fair

[junior kestrel]

Plasma rifle should have been labelled as a plasma smg or smt.

Or the storm rifle be the plasma saw.

[junior kestrel]

That's fair. It would have been kinda groovy to see a brute faction in parrellel and rival them.

[jade gust]

The Storm Rifle doesn't fit in as a SAW-like weapon though. It's close to the AR in what its role is within the sandbox

[placid tree]

I wish the other guns, frankly, didn’t suck so much so I didn’t feel like I was shooting myself in the foot for using them. Like the SMG for the longest time was like…actually useless lol

[junior kestrel]

It kills spartans in 6 shots in h5.

[jade gust]

That doesn't make it a SAW

[random glacier]

As messy as Halo 4-5 were, that SAW was insanely fun to use

[jade gust]

I miss how Halo 5's was at launch, it was such a beast

[junior kestrel]

No. But it does make it slightly op.

So perhaps plasma lmg?

[placid tree]

Why did they nerf it?

[junior kestrel]

Most lmgs you need to burst fire with anyways to preserve the barrel.

[placid tree]

LOL

[jade gust]

Tearing through Prometheans with the SAW on the last level was fantastic

[junior kestrel]

Halo 3 ar.

[naive turret]

The thing you drop immediately upon finding a BR aye

[placid tree]

AR in general, let’s be honest, 5 is literally the only time I’ve felt like the AR did anything lol

[jade gust]

They decided to rebalance the sandbox due to some weapons dominating a little too much

[placid tree]

Maybe Infinite but I wouldn’t know

[jade gust]

Please tell me you did not just say Halo 3's AR was good

[junior kestrel]

The saw is pretty alright. Though the design I think... i would have prefered the gpmg in design. Use that design but saw's role.

[junior kestrel]

It's actually killer lol.

[jade gust]

I like the SAW's design

[placid tree]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

[unique cobalt]

anyone wanna play some mcc with me

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[naive turret]

Granted, in H3, I usually dropped my pistol for the BR over the AR so there's that I guess.

[placid tree]

Halo 3 AR is one of the most useless weapons in the long sad history of useless weapons

[naive turret]

And that's in a game with the Spiker.

[placid tree]

Well the Magnum is somehow worse

[jade gust]

Infinite's was very close to 5's in how it functioned, but they clipped it slightly a while back, so while it's not Halo 3 levels of bad, it does feel not as good as it used to

[junior kestrel]

Given it's role.

In cqb. Further than the shotgun. Closer than the carbine. It's right there. It will smoke the br user at close range.

Consistently. But dual smgs melt both of them.

[junior kestrel]

To be fair the halo 3 magnum sucks.

[jade gust]

If you're dying to an AR when using a BR in 3, you're just terrible at Halo 3

[junior kestrel]

I'd even say it's just as bad as the halo 2 magnum in a different way.

[naive turret]

idk if I've said this before but I despise 'intended range' as a methodology of balance.
Ease of use should be how it's determined, not some nebulous distance.

[junior kestrel]

Either way I'd say I did good.

[naive turret]

If I nail all of my BR shots at point blank, yes, the guy with the AR should die faster than me. idc.

[placid tree]

Halo 3 has a real problem of a lot of the weapons just feeling outright terrible to use imo

They’re so bad

[peak sequoia]

Halo 3 needler my beloved

[jade gust]

Halo 3 is the game where whoever has a BR, they will dominate the map

[junior kestrel]

The ar has a faster rate of fire fundementally. And is more than likely. Rushing you down for a melee.

[placid tree]

Which imo is just…boring

Especially because Carbine is cooler

[jade gust]

Two bursts and a melee from a BR will kill in Halo 3

[junior kestrel]

? Felt like it was at least 3.

Even when used against me.

Either that or I was faster.

[placid tree]

I understand that the AR is meant to be the casual friendly noob weapon but like…I think it should at least be more than an honorary melee weapon lol

[peak sequoia]

2 burst seems a little fast

[naive turret]

Cause here's the thing, an AR user can escape a BR's ideal range much easier than the reverse.
And so balancing based on 'range' skews toward the less skill determined gun.

Which is bad.

[candid solar]

It's fine, he's just extremely unlucky.

[solemn vine]

wtf i am using pc and the game suddenly ask me to log my xbox acc

[junior kestrel]

Either way br sucks at dealing with someone who's less than 10 feet away. Partly I think cause of the smaller crosshair.

[jade gust]

It's a shame it always lived in the BR's shadow. I feel like were it not for them adding in the H2A BR in 5, it would've been able to survive just fine. Do wish they kept the green projectiles for the Carbine in 5 as well

[placid tree]

…wait the projectiles aren’t green in 5?

[candid solar]

IIRC they're a weird purple green white mix

[junior kestrel]

Idk.

Gives the other guy more of a chance to out play. Not to mention it prevents the game from having a true meta

[jade gust]

Aye, I think the lore is the H5 Carbine uses a different type of ammo

But it's still the Carbine in how it functions

[solemn vine]

anyone knows why?

[placid tree]

Definitely not retroactive lore to make a creative choice make sense

[junior kestrel]

Which.

I think having a meta sucks.

Especially with halo. Nobody likes the range dominant weapons being THE meta.

[jade gust]

But Halo 5 also gave us the Blamite firing menace, the Blood of Suban

[naive turret]

And here's the thing, this doesn't even take factors like Infinite's AR having a headshot bonus before its nerf.

Which adds RNG to the playing field, which is always terrible.

[placid tree]

You’re inevitably gonna have weapons be better than others, rewarding the harder weapons to use makes sense

[jade gust]

Aye, it's not a retcon to previous games, it's just the Halo 5 Carbine isn't the usual radioactive stuff

[junior kestrel]

I'd even be in favor of the magnum being kept as a cqb only super weapon. Massive damage fall off at distance but close up it's the second most lethal gun.

[naive turret]

By the way, Bloom sucks. Get rid of it. Keep it away.

Burn it in a fire and salt the ashes.

[candid solar]

You really can't not have a meta in a game. A meta is something that settles as it is due to practicality.

[placid tree]

Does Infinite have bloom

[naive turret]

Yes, Sidekick and Commando most prominently.

[placid tree]

Please tell me no, please

NOOOOOOOOOONOHOHOHOOOOO

[jade gust]

It's nowhere near as bad as Reach's thankfully

[candid solar]

Sobbing Santa Claus

[naive turret]

Meanwhile the Stalker Rifle is right there, with slower projectiles neccessitating shot lead at range.
An actual good balancing mechanic.

[junior kestrel]

I'll say this abt infinite's ar. And 5's. I don't like them having headshot multiplyers.

It would lead to a need of more skill to project the ability to eff around like that with ranged skilled players.

[jade gust]

Like, you're not gonna be having shots flying off at 45 degrees beyond where the reticle is actually pointing

[placid tree]

(Weeps in candy canes)

[polar chasm]

I wonder how the new novel will set up the future

[naive turret]

At least the Bandit didn't have it. It just felt nice.

[jade gust]

Also like, the Sidekick is meant as a backup when you run out of ammo

[junior kestrel]

Fair ig. But 3 feels like it lacks one. Br being soft meta sure.

But easily broken with good position plays.

[candid solar]

That's... That's still a meta.

[junior kestrel]

Commando done better ina reach mod lol.

[jade gust]

The Bandit feels so smooth to fire

[naive turret]

It's got a nice reload too.

[candid solar]

Like, the game is literally balanced around precisions in general, specifically midrange precisions, being the meta.

[placid tree]

Making the harder weapon to aim the meta makes sense, it’s why Needler generally sucks lol

[junior kestrel]

And that meta is broken once the ar reaches itself optimim mid close range.

[candid solar]

That's basically how every Halo's been designed really. It's why every single precision in 4 was a higher pick rate than any of the full auto primaries.

[jade gust]

And the firing sounds when getting close to the bottom of the mag as well... So good

[junior kestrel]

I kinda just felt like I dominate better with the ar.

Maybe it's unexpected for someone to stick to it?

[jade gust]

Most loadouts in 4 people used was their preferred precision with a Plasma Pistol or Boltshot depending on if it was BTB or not

[placid tree]

Maybe hot take idk but the 343 AR sound effect is freakin awesome

[junior kestrel]

That and I benefit from having way more ammo than any other weapon.

[junior kestrel]

In 4? Yeah. The rest? Dunno.

[naive turret]

Pre-Nerf DMR, Boltshot, Stickies, Promethean Vision, Mobility.

For when you despise the concept of other human beings.

[jade gust]

Like, Halo 4's AR was an improvement over Reach's, but that doesn't matter when people can spawn with pocket shotguns or the noob combo

[candid solar]

Also the BR is just... Easy. The three round burst rewards even sloppy marksmen with a 1 in 3 chance to headcap a shieldless player.

[placid tree]

Carbine better

[junior kestrel]

I kinda wish I could turn off the low ammo sound.

Maybe swap it for tracers?

[jade gust]

Don't forget the stealth support upgrade as well, gotta stay hidden through walls

[candid solar]

What's funny is that I never really thought boltshots were that strong outside of tryharding in Spartan Ops.

[placid tree]

I haven’t done Spartan Ops, people seem to say it was boring

[candid solar]

I dealt with pre-nerf Boltshots, I just was never super affected by them.

[junior kestrel]

Aye that's true. But it's made slightly harder with 3's projectiles being way slower.

[jade gust]

I remember it being strong... I abused it so much before it got nerfed. And still used it anyway since it was still pretty good

[jade gust]

If you ever go for the solo legendary achievement, you can do it with the acrophobia and bandanna skulls turned on, which make it leagues easier

[naive turret]

I'm being hyperbolic tbf, but it did reward unsavoury playstyles.

[junior kestrel]

I never fought against them cause I didn't play much of 4s multiplayer until later.

[candid solar]

The boltshot is actually one of the most useful guns in spartan ops because it has some of the best ammo economy in the game.

[junior kestrel]

This is why I like even starts.

[candid solar]

It's a 10 shot magazine gun with the ability to headshot. And the two most common enemies that exist both don't have shields and have a big head, one of which also drops boltshots.

[junior kestrel]

I wouldn't mind maybe one specific mode with custom loadouts. But give it the warning that you may have a horrid experience.

[candid solar]

That's a bit extra.

[junior kestrel]

Grunts and crawlers.

[naive turret]

I think preset ones for Invasion is fine, to sell the 'advancing' aspect of that mode.
Firefight and Customs too. Otherwise keep it to even starts.

[junior kestrel]

Maybe silly.

But 4 did have classic slayer in addition to infinity slayer.

Bf6 also has modes with locked and unlocked weapons.

[candid solar]

Like, part of the issue with Halo 4's loadout system was actually that it didn't go far enough.

[junior kestrel]

Agreed.

[junior kestrel]

What? Like attachments?

[candid solar]

If you want loadouts, as in custom for each player as they desire, you need to go a lot harder into it in order to justify build diversity.

[naive turret]

I should be able to spawn with a Scorpion gdi.

[junior kestrel]

Also.

I need to day this.

Halo 4 and 5's br was exceptionally ugly.

[candid solar]

Otherwise you end up with something like 4, where there's only like two loadouts anyone ever runs.

Halo 5's BR is my favorite BR and I'm mad I never got it in Infinite.

First time we ever had a BR that was actually space-age instead of just Gulf War bullpup.

[robust pilot]

halo 5 br from design point of view was pathetic

[junior kestrel]

To each their own ig.

I also think it was a mistake making locke's one just having a reflex sight.

[robust pilot]

halo infinite br design was much better

[candid solar]

I don't know what "Pathetic" is supposed to mean in this context.

Like, that's not a qualitative assessment that has any real meaning. It's like saying a Prius is designed in a way that is "Pathetic".

[naive turret]

The sight really is the only aspect I dislike. The one in 4 fit the gun more, imo.

[junior kestrel]

Speaking of the missions could have done with more start loadout variety.

[candid solar]

And like what does that mean? It "Exudes" being pathetic?

[junior kestrel]

I still don't like 4's sight either. The round 2x was my fav.

[candid solar]

I thinkthe classic scope on Halo 5 BR is cooking with gas.

[robust pilot]

pathetic meaning it looked ugly

[junior kestrel]

I just don't like how blocky and nubly it looks.

The h2/3 design felt more sharp and sleek even.

[candid solar]

Something about the bulkier scope on a bulkier, blockier rifle that looks like it fires a bigger round fits the theme.

[robust pilot]

but again halo 4 5 art style was just bad overall

[junior kestrel]

We can agree. Scope is like 80% of the apeal.

[candid solar]

Ugh.

[naive turret]

Nah someone cooked here.

[junior kestrel]

Ok maybe more like 60?

[candid solar]

Man, you know, I wonder what it must feel like to have whatever game you enjoy constantly glazed instead of constantly ragged on by people for the most flimsy and dense of reasons.

[junior kestrel]

I do like this scope. Could have been neat if there was a peep hole for irons.

[candid solar]

Because I'm getting really bored with this crap.

[placid tree]

Wdym

[junior kestrel]

The Hydra is probably 5's best addition.

[placid tree]

Like Halo 5 hate in general?

[junior kestrel]

It presents a new and unique power weapon to the the sandbox that infinite in one regard inproved and in another kinda ruined.

[candid solar]

Not just 5, just like, in general.

But in context, 5.

[placid tree]

I definitely feel like the Bungie games are patted on the head for things the 343 games are slapped for lol

[candid solar]

Oh, constantly.

Look at Reach, it's the top example of the problem.

[naive turret]

Halo fan try to apply a consistent standard challenge: Impossible.

[placid tree]

Halo 4 is really not that big a gameplay jump from Reach, but apparently 4 is infinitely worse in every way lol

[junior kestrel]

I hate reach so I think I'm mostly consistent

Mostly.

[naive turret]

There's accounting for taste, ofc. But being in here for long enough you see people with no tongues, apparently.

[junior kestrel]

What

[naive turret]

The analogy works shhh

[robust pilot]

yeah and people were pissed off with bungie , it was the most controversial bungie halo

[placid tree]

I’ll be honest…4 campaign better than Reach imo, I think Reach struggles with having no characters (other than Jorge) who I latch onto for their personality

[candid solar]

Now. Not then. Now.

I was around when opinion for Reach changed, lmao.

[junior kestrel]

Idk if it does. I don't understand it water hater

[placid tree]

4 has some actually really good writing that imo eclipses some of the Bungie campaigns

A lot of the Bungie campaigns were essentially hype and aura

[naive turret]

It also has some very on the nose writing that I cringe at.

[candid solar]

Good setpieces will make someone forget that writing is trash.

[placid tree]

Yeah sometimes it flies too close to the sun lol

[junior kestrel]

To be fair bungie's aura is like... really tight

[placid tree]

Halo 3…

[candid solar]

See; Modern takes on Call of Duty Infinite Warfare.

[placid tree]

Halo 3 is one of the most unnecessarily glazed campaigns I’ve ever seen

Like it’s good…but the writing is really pretty lazy

[naive turret]

I've gotta make a thing that'll be useful, and wont be relevant when I'm done. brb

[candid solar]

Oof

[junior kestrel]

I only liked one scene.

The part where we should have died.

[candid solar]

It has good moments but ultimately the writing itself is by-the-numbers.

[robust pilot]

it still worked, you can maybe say that about halo 3 campaign because they made arbiter a side character but other than that all campaigns were solid

[placid tree]

It’s basically “and then the thing you expected to happen happens in the most direct way possible”

[candid solar]

It's part of why I don't really care for Reach. Or Infinite, really.

[placid tree]

Except Arbiter, idk what happened lol

[junior kestrel]

Maybe I'm uncreative but idk where else 3 could have gone other than adapting the halo 2 story boards and do a big flood war for cortana after.

[placid tree]

My boy was relegated to saying Holy Gravemind Batman

[candid solar]

The basic foundation for 3 as is is fine. It's more the dialogue.

[placid tree]

3 has some good lines but imo it’s not even close to the quality I saw in 2

[junior kestrel]

"To war" and "worse" prolly being the biggest examples tbh

[plucky copper]

...

[junior kestrel]

Finishing this fight

[placid tree]

I will forever glaze the writing in Halo 2

[candid solar]

The dialogue for nearly all of it is just awful. And the decision to effectively turn any character with autonomy into either a chief glazer or utterly insane was also a bad one.

[placid tree]

That one is fine but I think there were far more interesting lines

[robust pilot]

that we can all agree

[junior kestrel]

You have one line of inteligible dialogue and it's not even in a cutscene.

I feel bad for you man.

[placid tree]

RIP Rookie dialogue

Rookie is the strong silent type

[candid solar]

I should really do a more in-depth breakdown of OT Halo writing. It's very much a product of its time and I don't mean that in a kind way.

[junior kestrel]

They were in a pretty insane and desperate situation.

Not to mention chief has already saved humanity big time in ce.

And almost again in 2.

[trim saddle]

He's only silent now lol

[placid tree]

I find it really funny Bungie didn’t love the book writing and considered their games immediately the priority, but then their writing is like…way worse lol

[junior kestrel]

Your pal, where's he headed?

[junior kestrel]

Aye

[merry lily]

Guys am I allowed to share my banana bread recipe here?

[placid tree]

Halo Reach retconning Fall of Reach is a crime

Because like I’ll be real, Fall of Reach is infinitely better lol

[junior kestrel]

I agree.

[trim saddle]

Banana bread at work dude?

[junior kestrel]

It's part of why I hate reach's story

[merry lily]

All my homies love banana bread

[junior kestrel]

Even if I liked part of Marcus' direction.

[placid tree]

Halo books in general are very weird in how consistently fire they are

[trim saddle]

I made banana bread cookies and coated them in dark chocolate. Very tasty.

[junior kestrel]

I mean. Joe made a book. That 343 glazers say he went rogue when it was actually co edited by a lot of bungie guys.

Including frank.

He... god damn it.

[merry lily]

Here’s my recipe, feel free to save it!

James’ Banana bread recipe:

2 cups self raising flour
1 cup sugar
1.5 teaspoon baking powder
2 mashed bananas (ripe)
2 eggs (medium)
1 cup milk (any kind)
1 full pack of white chocolate chips.
Vanilla extract (optional)

Bake at 180 Celsius until you can stab the cake with a knife and it comes out clean.
Serve warm (recommend)

[placid tree]

One thing I infinitely respect about 343 is that on their very first main attempt, they tied a ton of the story into lore rather than just making it simple action

Was it a perfect attempt? No but it was cool

4 is definitely way better than 3 in writing because it actually tries things lol

I find it hard to play through 3 because it feels like we’re just doing A to B tasks

But idk that may just be me

[junior kestrel]

Contact harvest.

The one where AJ Johnson proves he knows what the ladies like.

[jade gust]

Nobody is saying Joe went rogue when he wrote Contact Harvest

[junior kestrel]

Well someone did. For some reason.

[jade gust]

Like, you can't just write and publish an entire novel set within an established franchise without people finding out

[timid roost]

The death of truth is the only scene i can think of with good dialogue in 3

[placid tree]

Nah he hid it

[candid solar]

Are the "343 Glazers" in the room with us right now.

[timid roost]

Oh, and everything the gravemind says hits

[placid tree]

Yes

It’s me

[junior kestrel]

No.

[hidden axle]

asd

[junior kestrel]

I'm not talking abt you guys. Or anyone I've spoken with here before.

[solemn vine]

first the graphic card now bought new pc already login issues

[jade gust]

With MCC?

[junior kestrel]

Why do you always jump?

Unacceptable, this ring is mine.

Halo 3 doesn't have a whole lot of cutscenes in general tbh

[solemn vine]

what is MCC?

[jade gust]

Master Chief Collection

[solemn vine]

oh no login halo

[junior kestrel]

"Back on halo you tried to kill cortana, you tried to kill me"

[jade gust]

Which Halo are you trying to play?

[solemn vine]

PC

[placid tree]

I wouldn’t exactly call this an amazing line idk what you mean lol

[jade gust]

Which Halo on PC? There's multiple

[slender fog]

halo so goated

[solemn vine]

ask for xbox signin

[jade gust]

Try this #1433864666144051260 message

[solemn vine]

oh no i am using steam

[jade gust]

That is for Steam

[undone blaze]

Chat, where can I help the halo tree of life grow?

[silver arch]

I opened chat and I thought people were still arguing about 343's halos again, but discord finally loaded lol

[vagrant kettle]

Is it just me who cringes whenever someone says “chat” when referring to people

[hasty zinc]

chat, is chat cringe?

[meager linden]

Good night people of Halo

[junior kestrel]

No. But it's not bad considering the context. Plus it's a good reminder for those who haven't played ce in a while. Or a good way to inform the standing between John and spark to newcomers.

[junior kestrel]

I think so.

[late ivy]

Hello

[hasty zinc]

do you sleep ever?

[obsidian wyvern]

it's bad when aegis is asking

[drowsy coyote]

Those poor people who had to fight brutes instead of elites in their first halo game 💔

[junior kestrel]

Yes.

[junior kestrel]

3 was my first. I didn't play ce or 2 until I was abt 16.

Via the mcc.

Side note.

I would love to have more stuff surrounding the settings extended vehicles. Vulture, condor, vampire, litch, and other massive vehicles.

[junior kestrel]

Like the condor is only present in 1.5 halos.

The wrecks in infinite I count as half.

[waxen rose]

Was there something you wanted to say about Vaporeon @trim saddle

[trim saddle]

I like that keychain

I'd have Jolteon as a keychain if I still had a motorcycle.

[buoyant canyon]

Side rant lol,

Dude I swear I can never look at Halo content on IG everyone is brain dead on there, most wild takes in my life. 🥀🥀

Someone was literally trying to argue that Reach is harder than H2 like this HAS to be rage bait and I'm falling for it RAH

[hasty zinc]

did you know

[waxen rose]

Gguulp

[hasty zinc]

that clefairy was slated to be the original mascot of pokemon

[zinc bear]

I thought it was that yellow one

[hasty zinc]

https://tenor.com/ba790.gif

[zinc bear]

EW

[stoic ravine]

Those Snipers still haunt me

[pliant hatch]

the elites in reach were contenders on higher difficulties.

[junior kestrel]

Freaky pika.

[hasty zinc]

Freakachu

[raven fiber]

Hey I worked for blizzard so I know what I’m talking about

[jade gust]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-cute-adorable-vaporeon-gif-17858020

[meager elm]

Because they have a skill issue

[sturdy wharf]

Halo 2's campaign becomes significantly more fun once you realize that dual wielding needlers is actually goated, unlike the multiplayer

[clear flower]

[sturdy wharf]

Best automatic and dual wield combo in the game, possibly the best version of the needler in the series

[meager elm]

Or newer players would just start with Halo reach instead of CE

[trim saddle]

Dual wielding, now that's a name I haven't heard in a long time.

[sturdy wharf]

It's also the most consistent non power weapon damager dealer against all enemy types aside from hunters

[trim saddle]

I'm heading to the store, anyone want anything?

[zinc bear]

Coca Cola please

[meager elm]

100 Dollar Gift card jk

[zinc bear]

And some hot OJ for that one guy

[trim saddle]

I'll get some OJ and split it with him.

[zinc bear]

Cute!!

[pliant hatch]

you can say that for everything, but the upgraded ones were tanky.

[trim saddle]

That is on my list already, mostly because I mix it with rum. Otherwise I stay away from pop/soda

[sturdy wharf]

Ngl I was expecting more pushback for my H2 Needler take

[meager elm]

Try drinking Coffee each day

[hybrid plover]

hope yall are having a great saturday

[trim saddle]

Don't tell me what to do

[junior kestrel]

I kinda wish we could have gotten Thel in a space arbiter suit. Would have been dope

[hybrid plover]

if you knew how to read you’d understand i wasn’t

[zinc bear]

Well, my xbox series s has been having power supply issues. Hopefully it’s just the cord and my Saturday isn’t ruined

[trim saddle]

He kinda just Thel into place eh?

[zinc bear]

It was a joke I’m sure

[trim saddle]

Huh?

[hybrid plover]

yeh i cant joke back 😭

[junior kestrel]

M90 shotgun?

[trim saddle]

They USED to have those at the store I'm going to, about 20 years ago lol

[hybrid plover]

exactly

[junior kestrel]

Speaking of. Halo infinite's weapon names kinda stink

[trim saddle]

Reading comprehension goes brrrRrRrrrrRr

[junior kestrel]

Commando? Combat rifle

Sidekick? Auto pistol

Bulldog? Assault shotgun.

[hybrid plover]

who need reading comprehension when you have joe rogan podcast

[zinc bear]

Joe rogan is mid

Halo better

[hybrid plover]

yeah he sucks

[hasty zinc]

yeah and then you could blood stains all over the armor cuz of the gore!

[waxen rose]

Strawberry Dr pepper

[hybrid plover]

i saw they have christmas diet coke now? you try that?

[scenic dragon]

does it taste like christmas

[zinc bear]

Freak what the actual freak

[junior kestrel]

It'd make him look even cooler though.

Then again he stayed squeaky clean when facing the flood.

[zinc bear]

I want arbiter clean and nice and healthy

[misty marsh]

Arbiter uses the master chief soap during battle

[zinc bear]

I want labubu skin for arbiter

[hybrid plover]

bruh

labruhbruh

[misty marsh]

Dubai chocolate 24k gold thel vadam labubu for my birthday thanks

[hybrid plover]

okay so i tried dubai chocolate and it was pretty good ngl

[misty marsh]

I made it myself

It is really nice but lowkey can get the same experience from a kitkat

[naive turret]

Your table-

[zinc bear]

Autocorrect made me get a warning 💔

[pliant hatch]

is that what you want them to be called?

[hybrid plover]

lool

[misty marsh]

My 67 days are over trust

[zinc bear]

You know what nevermind I don’t even care anymore

[vagrant kettle]

Auto pistol sounds lame
I like sidekick

[hybrid plover]

i guess today’s not your day man

[misty marsh]

Ur never inheriting the odst😔

[zinc bear]

I had to delete it before Iratus nuked my home

[meager linden]

I miss King Shark
I hope he's okay🥲

[zinc bear]

I don’t even know what the word means and Iratus is still kicking me into the grave

[zinc bear]

Never superintending the inheritor ODST 💔

[hybrid plover]

same…

[junior kestrel]

Okay.

How abt 10 mm auto?

Cause that's what it is. A 10 mm auto pistol.

[buoyant canyon]

Yeah no like HOLY HOT TAKE.

I swear there are more liars in the Halo community than any other fanbase.

[junior kestrel]

It's a glorified GLOCK

[zinc bear]

Okay.

How abt 67 mustard labubu

[silver arch]

I would hope you aren't cringing about me calling general chat "chat" considering that's what it's called lol

[hybrid plover]

chat, is this real?

[misty marsh]

Can the labubu sprint?

[floral pollen]

comes into Halo chat
sees 67 "meme"
leaves

[hybrid plover]

it’s been like this for about a week

[vagrant kettle]

I usually call it the MK50, because that’s it’s designation

[zinc bear]

Censor sp*rnt next time please it’s my trigger word and makes me create a Reddit post talking about how 343 and their propaganda sucks

[vagrant kettle]

No, people who say stuff like “hey chat, is halo based”

[zinc bear]

Saying “chat” funny ngl

[ionic field]

Saying "chat" is very cringe

[zinc bear]

Two sides of the same coin

[misty marsh]

Hi chat, what's up chat, hope everyone's having a fabulous Saturday chat

[stoic ravine]

For a second I thought i said something wrong there and was so confused 😂

[vagrant kettle]

But calling it the 10 mil sounds good too

[buoyant canyon]

Wasn't chat deemed to be the “fourth person” in grammer structure

[zinc bear]

Yo chat, clip that guy. Mods, ban him for 70 years. Chat, should I also ban this guy?

[meager linden]

What I am reading?🥲
Chat filled with brainrot nonsense

[hybrid plover]

chat, i think somebody’s in my house..

[ionic field]

O hell ya Marty is doing halo music at halo fest chat.

[stoic ravine]

Worst ones are when streamers demand chat give them money

[buoyant canyon]

Naw u good I'm just passionate lol. Nothing to do with you hah.

Just tired of the Halo Community being split between the most wholesome and annoying ppl ever.

[misty marsh]

Chat, calc is short for calculator, chat

[ionic field]

Chat,chat.

[hybrid plover]

calculus

[stoic ravine]

Those Jackal snipers do hurt though in Halo 2

[dull bison]

https://tenor.com/view/jackal-sniper-gif-22878703

[zinc bear]

It’s always “chat, clip that” and never “chat, how are you?” 😔😔

[misty marsh]

Chat, clip that please

[ionic field]

Chat, subscribe to me, chat.

[misty marsh]

Streamers don't know how to be polite anymore

[dull bison]

chat finish the fight chat

[zinc bear]

Chat, I need some cuddles.

[hybrid plover]

chat, gimme uppies

[ionic field]

Because most streamers are miserable chat

[buoyant canyon]

GOTTA memorize those spawns lol

[misty marsh]

Chat smash that like button chat don't forget to subscribe chat give the covenant back their bomb chat smash the notification bell chat glass the planet chat

[dull bison]

for a chat he clipped pretty good

[zinc bear]

Chat I need a kiss on the cheek

[zinc bear]

Absolutely goated

[hybrid plover]

chat my tummy hurts

[stoic ravine]

Its like watching brainrot take over like the flood

[ionic field]

This is the chat man here, smash that chat button

[misty marsh]

Chat, boo, chat

[zinc bear]

Chat clip that 67 mustard phonk 😂😂😂😂✌️

[dull bison]

hiddenchatsperia

[ionic field]

Just chatting around

[junior kestrel]

Yeah.

Cause 10 mil pistol is really normal. And easily distinguishable from the magnum.

[misty marsh]

Wake masterchat when you need chat, chat

[dull bison]

this chat is not a natural formation

[ionic field]

Chat me when you need chat

[dull bison]

welcome home, chat.

[zinc bear]

Chat call the sidekick a 10 mil pistol

[misty marsh]

Chat would have been chats chat but chat beat chat over the chat

[ionic field]

Duel chatting in halo2

[zinc bear]

Chat, it’s our duty as soldiers to protect the mods. Whatever the cost.

[hybrid plover]

chat, i had a bad dream 🙁

[dull bison]

chat knows what the chatties chat

[ionic field]

Chat.

[zinc bear]

.

[hybrid plover]

C

[ionic field]

At

[zinc bear]

‎

[ionic field]

Damn no where to chat

[junior kestrel]

This chat is a natural formation

[ionic field]

Chat, chat? Chat

[junior kestrel]

No? It's their duty to protect us and the server from bad chatters

[hybrid plover]

||chat||

[zinc bear]

Wait how do I do the spoiler message

[misty marsh]

Chat chat chat.

[ionic field]

Surprise

[hybrid plover]

|| on either side of a word or sentence. no spaces

[misty marsh]

|| on each side

[zinc bear]

Dide

[misty marsh]

Chat, nuke this guy

[ionic field]

C h a t

[hybrid plover]

-# or you have smoll : )

[zinc bear]

|| ‎ ||

[dull bison]

Now listen up chat! Back in my chat, we didn't have fancy chats! We had chats. Two chats and a chat for the entire chattoon! And we had to share the chat!! You should consider yourself very chatty chatters!

[undone blaze]

Rude

[hybrid plover]

👏🏻

[zinc bear]

Sergeant Johnson is my husband thank you for ts

[misty marsh]

Prophet of chat, council of the most high chat of the chat

[dull bison]

he must be mormon... bc he's mine too

[zinc bear]

Is there any Linda quotes

[undone blaze]

Chat what should I call the chatters in chat, if I can't call chat chat?

[hybrid plover]

💬

[dull bison]

chat, i think we're just getting chatted

[hybrid plover]

it’s over…

[dull bison]

chattin echats

[misty marsh]

Dear chat, chat regrets being chat, chat regrets coming to chat, and chat most definitely regrets that the chat just blew up chats raggedy-chat chat

[hybrid plover]

we’re totally getting chatted right now

[spare glacier]

What did I just walk into

[undone blaze]

I called chat chat and now everyone's weird

[zinc bear]

I’m not weird, I’m Damian.

[undone blaze]

I just want to water the tree 😭

[dull bison]

I'm Chat!

[zinc bear]

Bahahahaha get it? Get it? Guys? Get it? Guys? Chat?

[misty marsh]

Hi Damian, we're chat

[hybrid plover]

oh no ima chat

[dull bison]

we're like the flood, but chat

[hybrid plover]

the flood but worse 😱

[dull bison]

chatmind

[misty marsh]

I am a chat to all your chats.

[dull bison]

the chat

[zinc bear]

Gravemind is so cute

[dull bison]

Chatta Halo

[hybrid plover]

wavemind 👋🏻

[misty marsh]

uwu. I am a monwument to aww yor sins 🥺🥺🎀🎀🌸

[dull bison]

Chatlo: Chat Evolved

[zinc bear]

The gwavemind!! NYA!! OwO 😘😘😘

[vagrant kettle]

I didn’t mean any offense, and I’m sorry if I did offend you.

[hybrid plover]

we need to hire a Pi to find king shark

[dull bison]

lol you're outnumbered

King Chat

[vagrant kettle]

Agreed

[zinc bear]

I’m sick of this server

[misty marsh]

Only just?

[zinc bear]

PEAKK

[naive turret]

Horrors beyond mortal comprehension.

[hasty zinc]

didn't even upload the video smh

[misty marsh]

Thanks, I was waiting for someone to bring it in

[zinc bear]

We all fail, we all make mistakes. That’s what makes us UWU

[misty marsh]

I expected aegis to tho

[naive turret]

wait I forgot it was a video too lmao

[hasty zinc]

I got you

[misty marsh]

This is what mods are actually for

[zinc bear]

My parents are in the living room and I forgot my phone was full blast

[hybrid plover]

he’s out there…. somewhere

[misty marsh]

[hasty zinc]

if only you could see what's in here

[zinc bear]

Can I see

[misty marsh]

Is there a command to ban chat and 67

[zinc bear]

!67

[naive turret]

wow, it's that easy huh

[hasty zinc]

https://tenor.com/beudM.gif

[ionic field]

U have been chatted

[zinc bear]

!chatbanthisaegisguy

[misty marsh]

!flipaegis

[hasty zinc]

idk why I have this

[naive turret]

LOL?

[zinc bear]

Cute!!!

[hybrid plover]

idk why you have that either

[naive turret]

I've never seen that

[zinc bear]

The prophets posture lowkey looks like mine

[hasty zinc]

❔

[misty marsh]

This is how I found out the prophets have fists for feet

[zinc bear]

I remember when we played halo 2 my buddy wouldn’t stop staring at one of the prophets feet on the hologram

[zinc bear]

Meanwhile I was fighting for my life trying to destroy wraiths

[misty marsh]

Focus on feet next time ig

[zinc bear]

Ew

[zinc bear]

I’ll cameo Steve downes so he can actually say this too

[misty marsh]

I keep trying to censor it cause we banned the word feet in our server

[zinc bear]

I’m not joining your server now

[hasty zinc]

wife and I heard a plane, I said it's probably a SWA 737 at 3500ft going into BWI

I opened the app

you can guess the rest

[zinc bear]

It crashed and killed your entire family tree and my grandma?

[hasty zinc]

everthing was right but I was off by 100ft

[misty marsh]

Fake plane fan

[zinc bear]

Poser

[hybrid plover]

thanks santa

[hasty zinc]

wife was like what??? just by the sound??

[zinc bear]

Planes were better when plane 1 was making them. Then plane 2 took over and turned it into slop. I miss the old planes.

Now they’re rebranding to plane studios? I don’t even know anymore. All I know is that they’re installing some unreal engines into the plane. Hopefully they can actually fly.

[misty marsh]

All I've been taught is boeing bad airbus cool

[misty marsh]

Can the planes sprint????!?!!???

[zinc bear]

I live near an airport or something and they always be flying above my house it makes me sad

[waxen rose]

Im at comicon who wants something

[misty marsh]

I live near a military base so we get those other types of flying machines I forgot the word for them

[zinc bear]

One job application please

[misty marsh]

Yes thanks

[zinc bear]

@hasty zinc what is she talking about

[misty marsh]

CHINOOKS

[zinc bear]

Tom nook

[naive turret]

Oh yeah, Cargobobs

[restive cradle]

did someone say 67?

[zinc bear]

No

[misty marsh]

Yeah cargobobs are like if chinooks and stallions had a baby

[misty marsh]

!ban

[restive cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/disintegrate-gif-22469816

[jade gust]

https://tenor.com/view/eggman-eggman-announcement-give-me-your-phone-i'm-taking-everything-from-you-announcement-gif-13739801096949934240

[junior kestrel]

I kinda wanna see a banished occupation from a basically normal human perspective.

Sorta halflife 2ish.

But you pick how and when and where you resist. And the game covers the trials and tribulations there of.

[stuck wind]

With infinites final update coming

What’s gonna happen between it and CE remake? Who knows how long it’ll be

[steady jolt]

Operation: Infinite may be the last major update currently planned for Halo Infinite, but we’re fully committed to supporting players with exciting challenges, ranked rewards, and community events throughout next year and beyond.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/operation-infinite-preview

[trim saddle]

Last -major- update.

[pulsar heron]

i live by a range and get the chinooks overhead regularly too 🤝

[zinc bear]

Will this may be the last major update currently planned for Halo infinite? /j

[devout stratus]

Really cool chat x)