general-chat

[silent sierra]

reach and odst arent spinoffs

[molten pelican]

I mean technically they are

[silent sierra]

halo spinoffs would be like halo wars or spartan strike

reach and odst are standard halo games in the main series

just because it doesnt have a number doesnt mean its a spinoff

[molten pelican]

I could vouch more for reach, but they aren't numbered games like original trilogy through 4-5-infinite

eh this doesn't actually matter

I no longer care

[signal wedge]

Yeah man we should have action adventure Halo games

[candid solar]

I was considering making a fangame type dealio where it was basically an XCOM clone of Halo, buuuuut lawyers would likely be on my butt in short order.

[silent sierra]

I legit thought Infinite would have been a sort of Metroid/Zelda thing, with bosses that give upgrades that open paths and secrets and instanced "dungeon" levels and an overworld that spans a few biomes

[stoic ravine]

Just finished Halo 2 that ending was a slap in the face wow

[signal wedge]

we already have halo strategy game

[signal wedge]

thats too much to ask for a game that came out with 4 playlists
and a bland campaign

[normal compass]

plz new halo inf gun tomorrow live stream

[silent sierra]

instead we got Halo: Ubisoft Edition

[signal wedge]

Ubisoft is dead they should just sell

[candid solar]

Eh, Ubisoft games have some good qualities. Better transgender representation for one.

[signal wedge]

gonna make twitter mad with that

[candid solar]

Twitter is a cesspit full of wrathful scum, I don't really care what Twitter thinks.

[silent sierra]

Infinite's campaign is the only part that actually costs money upfront
how many people here actually paid for it ✋

[stoic ravine]

I actually enjoyed Infinite's campaign

[signal wedge]

They hold so much influence. Ubisoft had to release a statement on why they chose Yasuke as the main character

[signal wedge]

60 dollars for a mid campaign

[stoic ravine]

Considering when it takes place I really wanted Yasuke to be an ally in Ghost of Yotei

[silent sierra]

its 80 for me
regional pricing

good thing I only played it on game pass

couldnt imagine actually spending money on it

[signal wedge]

🥀

[analog knot]

$1 gamepass trial

[signal wedge]

wish I could take back all my hours spent on R6

[silent sierra]

whats wrong with R6?

[coral yoke]

⁉️ might just have to wait till it goes on like hyper sale then. oh my god.

[silent sierra]

i dont recall it ever going on sale

also where is Halo 5 on pc?
wanna play that campaign again but with proper resolution and mouse controls

[pliant hatch]

I didn't think it was that bad. the open world was barren, but fun to explore and the fights and story were alright.

[ocean herald]

It has plenty of times

[silent sierra]

must be my complete disinterest in checking it out again

honestly I think Halo 5's campaig ages better than Infinite's

both are failures in storytelling but at least one can be done and over with quickly

[pliant hatch]

you can speed run infinite in like 30 mins.

[vocal matrix]

Everytime i hop in halo infinite multiplayer i try to either get flood looks or turn into a marine for the fun of it

[stoic ravine]

I enjoyed seeing a more emotional Chief tbh

[meager linden]

Good early morning people of Halo

[misty marsh]

Never got ported

[stoic ravine]

And apparently it never will

[obsidian wyvern]

maybe for it's 15th

[misty marsh]

We're gonna get gta 15 before that happens

[keen tundra]

Hi, does anyone want to be part of a machinima? We only need 7 more body actors. This will be inside Halo Reach on MCC, this is not advertising or promoting, just inviting people to help, I’m just trying to help my friend by finding 7 more body actors

[calm fiber]

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[jaunty parcel]

Sprinting= no aim= no skill

[vagrant kettle]

[junior kestrel]

If they're gonna be doing remakes. How far are they gonna go?

Will it end in 3?

Or are they gonna go all the way and redo 4, 5 and even infinite?

[hasty zinc]

no idea, they haven't announced anything other than CE

[jaunty parcel]

Ughhhhhh it was cool getting games remade the first couple times but I’m gonna be honest it’s gonna be very difficult for me to justify buying Skyrim for the 9th time

Don’t be afraid to make new IP plzzzzzzzzzzzz just

do it and do it with no remorse

[hasty zinc]

I mean Halo Studios has only one IP

[signal wedge]

what

should ask Microsoft that

[pearl laurel]

Halo 3?

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-23330393

Forgot can’t post gifs

[silent sierra]

they will remake all of Bungie's games

[hasty zinc]

we dont' know that

[signal wedge]

Like we didnt know they were doing CEA. then again its all rumors until official announcement

[silent sierra]

rumors but they were pretty big rumors
mainly due to deduction

after Halo 5, the only place they could have gone was a soft reboot
Infinite was lukewarm so that didnt work either
so now all they can do is either a hard reboot or a remake
they are going to do something in between

[hasty zinc]

or they just might continue the currenty storyline

[silent sierra]

Anyone tried this yet? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3594880812&searchtext=sprint+evolved

its the Sprint Evolved mod
adds sprint to CE

no sliding though sadly

[candid solar]

Hmn.

[junior kestrel]

They could always expand that ip in spinoff games instead of books barely anyone reads.

[signal wedge]

books are cheaper to make ig

[jaunty parcel]

They could be reading this

[silent sierra]

I think the reliance on books and non-game media in general is what crippled 343 lore

[warm nimbus]

Why aren't they making new halo games

[silent sierra]

I dont think they can anymore

[signal wedge]

bruh one was literally just announced like 2 weeks ago

[jaunty parcel]

they should have just called Steve Vai back

He will set the universe back into order

[warm nimbus]

Wait fr what's the game

[signal wedge]

CAMPAIGN EVOLVED

[warm nimbus]

That's not a new game that's a remastered

[signal wedge]

no its a remake

[coral yoke]

so even the first like five missions of halo 4 spartan ops are uh
a little something i like to call hell

[warm nimbus]

Remastered remake same thing

[signal wedge]

no its not

they redid all the mocap and level designs
and even additional missions

[silent sierra]

Remastered usually means its the same game underneath, or is such a close recreation like a reverse-engineering

[potent mirage]

They are different. A remaster is essentially a new coat of paint, a remake actually changes thigns

[rocky thorn]

Replaying Halo 4 legendary, It ain't bad at all yall

[warm nimbus]

Ok but it's only campaign anyway

[coral yoke]

well, granted i have been playing solo lmao

[signal wedge]

I guess because Infinite exists and they want to keep it around for awhile

[silent sierra]

What kind of remake do you think Campy should be?

[severe locust]

I thought they said they had multiple projects when they announced they're using ue5 iirc

[candid solar]

Also, because it is not an instantaneous process.

[signal wedge]

It can be. Microsoft just isnt too serious about Halo

[silent sierra]

you want more stuff changed with just the bullet points of the original game intact, like RE4 Remake?
or you want a graphics and engine update with everything else remaining the same? closer to a remaster but not quite

[potent mirage]

I’d take a halo game made by ai at this point lmao

[signal wedge]

pretty sure EA wants a new Battlefield game every year

gonna start in 2027 or something

[silent sierra]

well not anymore
the A in EA now stands for Arabia

[severe locust]

Where are the dolphins?

[signal wedge]

in the sea

[severe locust]

🤯 🤯 🤯

[junior kestrel]

I'd say people are more irritated by the fact that it's now taking them 5-6 years per a project.

[potent mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[severe locust]

If only we could do embeds😔

[junior kestrel]

I want a pimps at sea 2

[silent sierra]

@signal wedgeYou looking for this flag? 🇸🇦

[signal wedge]

yes

[plain mica]

Yo

[severe locust]

Yo

[plain mica]

Y’all play battlefront 2???

[rocky thorn]

Nooo

[junior kestrel]

I wanna be able to customise my menu ship.

Assuming the next halo is a stand alone multiplayer game.

[rocky thorn]

Halo 3 2?

[strange crag]

it would be like walking through a lucid dream of halo

[junior kestrel]

Correct.

[rocky thorn]

Is that not halo 4

[signal wedge]

refunded because I kept losing the tie fighter mission

[strange crag]

halo 6 7

[plain mica]

I main Kylo and Finn and the sith trooper

[severe locust]

[signal wedge]

6 7

[warm nimbus]

Don't use brain rot words pls

[severe locust]

And abandon your clone brothers? Wow

[potent mirage]

Yeah bruh I’ll just make my own halo fanfic game where master chief becomes a god and influences the entire halo timeline aot style

[signal wedge]

okay sigma boy

[strange crag]

woa..

[junior kestrel]

No halo 4 is reach 2.

Halo 3 odst is halo 3.5ish.

But also halo 2.5

[junior kestrel]

Nah Johnson would be better lol.

Also imma get crap for this but Eren was completely justified.

[potent mirage]

Glad this isn’t an aot server lol

[silent sierra]

Was looking at a video talking about prometheans and why they were crap which got me thinking.
Prometheans could have been servants of forerunners as a sort of organic counterpart to the sentinels. Then introduce the warden eternal from the start as their leader, make him hate humanity because he considers them a "perversion" of the forerunners, and build the rest of the story with that foundation.
Have the trilogy end by the warden and the rest of the prometheans bow down to humanity.
What we instead got was insanely convoluted and contradictory to Bungie's writing.

[junior kestrel]

Can't tell if you agree or not lol.

[junior kestrel]

I mean... the prometheans before the ones seen in 4 refered to the warrior servants.

[silent sierra]

yeah so the pieces were already there

[potent mirage]

Accepting humanity as being worthy of the mantle of responsibility could have been a cool plot point

[junior kestrel]

Before they got composed.

[junior kestrel]

Also which writting you refering to?

Humanity and forerunners relationship? Their technology? Or smt else?

[silent sierra]

forerunners being ancient humans

[junior kestrel]

Ngl.

I think the Didact being revealed to be a huge, slightly mutated and horribly scarred human would have been more powerful than... what we got.

[silent sierra]

Lord Baldemort

[junior kestrel]

Give the man some hair.

Smt like hugo weaving in lotr

[silent sierra]

gonna be honest
people like to praise Halo 4's story for some reason
but the more I think about it, the worse it is

I honestly dont find it better than Halo 5's

[junior kestrel]

Both have massive writting and consistency issues. Internally and as parts of the wider franchise.

The only thing you needed filled into 2 was how johnson survived with first strike and containment.

[potent mirage]

Didn’t they completely change the lore in halo 4 in one big exposition dump with the librarian?

[junior kestrel]

Yes. But also some thing's early and throughout the game.

[meager linden]

So...
GTA Vi is delayed until 19 November, 2026

[junior kestrel]

The big thing is the libarian telling john she basically planned for him to be the end point

[potent mirage]

Watch they’re hoping to postpone the release date as far back as possible so it releases with the ps6 haha

[rocky thorn]

Halo 3 2 is halo 4
Halo reach 2 is Halo ce

[signal wedge]

next year GTA 6 will be delayed again

[junior kestrel]

@potent mirage before that cortana has some scenes that are actually consistent with bungie's vision of rampancy.

"I'll never know if it feels real."

[junior kestrel]

Halo 4 is a gameplay sequel to halo reach

Halo reach is a parrellel gameplay sequel to ce.

[rocky thorn]

Multi-player wise

[potent mirage]

Oh yeah where she questions her “humanity”

[junior kestrel]

The thing abt bungie's ai rampancy was that it was the ai wanting to become more like a human and eventually achive metastability.

Which the crazy evil fragment from 5 reached.

That thing isn't cortana. That's Durandal lite.

[silent sierra]

Halo 4 was the point where I effectively gave up immersing into the story
which is probably why I didnt hate 5's campaign, I just really didnt care about the story anymore

[junior kestrel]

Lol.

I hate them both quite a lot.

[rocky thorn]

Halo 4 is good :(

[junior kestrel]

I probably would have been more positive towards the scripted sequences if it were more in line with 3, just evolved more directly from it. Dual weilding, equipment and stuff. Improved and expanded.

With... yk. A good story.

[potent mirage]

I feel like the next instalment of halo after 3 (that expanded on the main story) was always going to need the evolution of humanising chief, however in some instances it was also a character assassination

[rocky thorn]

I mean chief was always humanized, just mostly in the books

[silent sierra]

If Bungie made another Halo after 3, they wouldn't have focused on Chief anymore

|| ||

[rocky thorn]

But they wouldn't cause they had no plan

[silent sierra]

aw you ruined it

[hasty zinc]

They went back and forth between reach and halo 4

[potent mirage]

I’m not sure how they portrayed him in the books but was he still just a “cog in the machine” but with a little more development?

[rocky thorn]

Pretty much

Also another thing that bugged me was that people expect chief to continue to blindly follow orders like he DIDNT learn from guilty spark

[junior kestrel]

Funny. They almost did. They just changed their mind for halo reach.

Halo reach was gonna be halo 4.

And I think halo 4 with reach mechanics would have been massive misstep.

[junior kestrel]

What they said

[rocky thorn]

Halo reach gameplay < halo 4 gameplay

[junior kestrel]

I'm more stressed by the way they written his reasons.

He was rational.

Even in irrational times.

[junior kestrel]

Halo 3 gameplay > every other halo.

[elfin glacier]

nooooooo it was numeral compani that added the dreaded and loathsome spr*nt to my beloved halo 😭 bingus would never

[silent sierra]

now do this but with Campaign Evolved

if bungie made their own halo 4, do you think they would have done the whole storm covenant thing?
a convoluted poorly explained contrivance to have you fight "covenant" enemies again?

[hasty zinc]

storm covenant isn't their name

but maybe idk

[silent sierra]

I mean if I was in charge I would have completely replaced the covenant with a new enemy faction that would cover the same or similar enemy type niches.
Kind of like what the prometheans could have been, instead of the crap we got.

[faint mantle]

Is master freak around

[placid tree]

Is it…really that contrived that splinter factions would result from a massive ancient power structure whose absence from the death of the prophets would leave a vacuum for extremists?

Honestly that’s arguably one of the most sensible things Halo 4 did

[silent sierra]

i mean it's great none of that is in the game and the storm covenant have no real presence or identity

[tight remnant]

Again it's not called storm covenant

And not sure why you say they have no presence or identity, to me they do

[silent sierra]

it really is just an excuse to have you fight more elite, grunts, jackals, and hunters
because REMEMBER HALO

[placid tree]

Wdym none of it is in the game, it doesn’t have to be because it’s obvious it would happen lol

Well it’s a really really good excuse lol

I don’t even particularly love Halo 4 or anything but I’ve always thought that made perfect sense

[silent sierra]

I think now I know why Reach was a prequel and not just Halo 4

[placid tree]

Well Bungie definitely considered Halo 4

And many of their ideas weren’t far off from what we got

[tight remnant]

You've got some people who believe everything would be peace and there would be no more fighting at all

[placid tree]

Ah yes the massive religious extremism empire with species whose culture basically orbits around it now

It just vanishes in like 28 days lol

And we expect everything to be fine

[tight remnant]

i do wish we could have multiple 'covenant' factions in the same game, that'd be a cool thing

[placid tree]

I’m absolutely sure nobody will take advantage of this humongous power vacuum

[placid tree]

That would be really nice, imo they should’ve pushed the idea even further

I mean for heaven’s sakes, the Banished are a perfect example of said splinter faction making a lot of sense

[silent sierra]

maybe cuz the banished take center stage and arent just an appetizer for the prometheans

[placid tree]

Well yeah the idea was the banished being the main antagonists

With the goober endless in the background

[hearty flame]

Best Halo game actually did this

[placid tree]

Honestly all things considered, Halo 4 makes a lot of pretty logical and respectful decisions story wise

[tight remnant]

halo 4's story's great

[placid tree]

I don’t love the gameplay but man I can’t argue with the story

[tight remnant]

Which?

[hearty flame]

Halo 4's story was a good continuation and start to a new trilogy

[hearty flame]

Halo 5 had multiple Covenant factions in it, if you count the Sangheili war you participate in alongside Thel

[placid tree]

Maybe hot take idk, Halo 5 gameplay is leagues better than 4

[tight remnant]

Oh

[silent sierra]

I agree with that

[rare cedar]

[placid tree]

In fact I would argue 5 gameplay is better than Reach by a mile too

[silent sierra]

Halo 4's gameplay is a bit of a mess
especially the campaign balance

[hearty flame]

Nah Halo 4's campaign balance was fine

[tight remnant]

I was thinking of two enemy factions fighting together then maybe seperately as they disagree and clash or something

[balmy pagoda]

I feel like Halo 5 could've been great had they not had so many sub plots happening at once.
Also evening. Hope everyone's well.

[placid tree]

My only real problem with Halo 4’s gameplay is just the lack of variety

The enemy variety is very restrictive

[silent sierra]

every other mission in halo 4 felt like a grind
either repetitive or slow or frustrating or all of the above

[placid tree]

It’s a big problem

[placid tree]

Eh

[balmy pagoda]

And the guns having little to no ammo.

[placid tree]

Hot take…I don’t actually mind that because I so consistently switch weapons anyways

Switching weapons constantly in Halo is like my favorite thing lol

[silent sierra]

yes this was a consistent issue

[hearty flame]

The problem with Halo 5 was instead of veering more into the identity of Halo, they veered away from it. The art style change in 4 alienated so many players and fans that 5 had to throw them something to recoup them and it just didn't. Despite the gameplay being some of the most solid the franchise has ever seen, it will forever be remembered as a disappointment to people who didn't give it a chance because it, thematically, did not meet the core ideas of Bungie era Halo. Which is a fair assesment to some, and not fair to others.

[placid tree]

Not saying it isn’t an issue, just saying it didnt bug me

[silent sierra]

i think it's a combination of dealing with promethean knights which soak up a lot of damage
and the weapons in general having low pickup ammounts

[balmy pagoda]

Okay fair, but I don't do that.
I used too.

[silent sierra]

another thing is how often you end up only with the rayman guns
which vary wildly in usefulness

[tight remnant]

I like a lot of halo 5's designs

[hearty flame]

The biggest problem I have with Halo 5 Guardians is that it was never ported to PC and they, to public knowledge, have no plans of doing any such thing

[tight remnant]

I like the sangheili designs

[placid tree]

I will say, as a person playing 5 for the first time atm, 5 looks WAY better to me than 4 did

[hearty flame]

5 looks better than 4 did, no doubt. However, it wasn't thematically what a lot of people wanted. People wanted Gen1 Mk VI, Spartan IIs, the whole shebang

[placid tree]

I think that’s a pretty restrictive way of seeing it, although imo 4 really didnt help itself by pretending everything in the past looked like this lol

[hearty flame]

It didn't really do that, they just used Gen 2 for one cutscene

They full-well acknowledge that John's Gen 2 was made in cryo, the use of it in the cutscene was just an embarassment on whoever made that decision.

[placid tree]

And pretended the Elites looked like that in the past which in all fairness the design change never made any sense anyways

[hearty flame]

That whole cutscene was a mistake tbf

[balmy pagoda]

Not to mention the marketing telling a different story and the amount of expanded universe the campaign relied on.
But yeah your take is something most people don't touch on.

[placid tree]

Agreed, although the kid part is really well done

[hearty flame]

Hunt The Truth is one of the biggest mistakes the franchise ever made

[placid tree]

I think it starts out really really strong

And then it just suddenly starts making no sense

[tight remnant]

John doesnt wear gen 2 in halo 4

also the covenant empire did have storm harnesses for elites

[placid tree]

The unfortunate part is the false marketing was the way better story lol

[balmy pagoda]

Indeed it was. Which was sad because those trailers actually got me hyped and made me buy and invest into Halo. While I was disappointed I am thankful for it.

[hearty flame]

irrelevant to the fact that his redesign was negatively viewed by the community

[tight remnant]

His 4/5 armour is my favourite

[placid tree]

I just think the whole reaction to Halo 4 and 5 shows a kinda toxic inability for part of the fandom to allow the franchise to experiment and expand. It’s gotta stay restricted to the same thing over and over or it’s “not Halo” when the better question is if it serves that particular project.

[floral pollen]

There's a scene I think from one of the concept books that shows Chief's armor change from during whatever process the librarian did to him in 4 that I personally think would have fit the story better
And this is coming from someone who loves H4 anyway, it's just mainly that detail that I wish was a bit different

[placid tree]

The gameplay changes in 5 really served the direction of that game, so imo it works and makes for pretty good gameplay. But some Halo fans just won’t stop complaining because the mere idea of sprint is sacrilege and should NEVER be in a Halo game even if it suits the vision

[hearty flame]

Halo 4's art style wasn't experimentation and expansion, it was replacement. Experimentation and expansion doesn't completely overhaul and almost completely redesign everything in the franchise, it would look something close to adoption changes over time instead of outright replacing things. A true experimentation and expansion would have probably been much more pallatable to the community

[balmy pagoda]

I thought his armor changed because of nanytes in his suite...
Or was that retconned?

[placid tree]

The art style criticism is fair, but that wasn’t the only thing receiving flak was it

[floral pollen]

I think that's the overall explanation for it in game, but it's just kinda silly to me
And I like that concept idea more

[hearty flame]

It was undoubtedly the most vocalized criticism people had with the game

[tight remnant]

Just have the cutscene show his armour being changed over time and have cortana mention it explicitly

[floral pollen]

Halo fans when Chief gets the ability to sprint and they can't relate to him anymore:

[hearty flame]

It's pretty obvious 343 wanted people to forget the old art style for the duration of Halo 4

Having a cutscene showing a transition would have appealed to loreheads but not many other people

• it would have undermined their decision to change the artstyle so massively

[balmy pagoda]

Well here's something I hoped they did which was use the old art style for the UNSC, Chief, make some of the new weapons resemble that art style, Arbiters covenant uses the old art style, then have the covenant splinter faction use the new art style but still faithful to the original.

[tight remnant]

you'd literally see the transition and that would be so much better for players in general not just 'lore heads'

[hearty flame]

completely subjective

also speculative, so both our arguments are irrelevant

[placid tree]

One could argue I’m a fake Halo fan for saying this but honestly…I just don’t mind how the Reclaimer games look lol. I mean I prefer the more classic look but when I look at Halo 5, I’m not cringing constantly about it. It doesn’t ruin my enjoyment. I just like seeing something fresh.

Subjective of course

[hearty flame]

4 and 5 look fine. They just look unnecessarily different.

[tight remnant]

You're not a fake fan for that

[junior kestrel]

It's a ciloclual cause it's a distinct entity and otherwise we wouldn't be able to effectively identify the difference without going into an overly wordy "jul'mdamammamas covenant splinter"

[tight remnant]

I like a lot of the designs in 4/5

[hearty flame]

colloquial

[tight remnant]

Jul's covenant

[balmy pagoda]

It's change for the sake of change had they come up with a decent explanation it would've been better is what I think people are trying to say.

[placid tree]

Unnecessary is not always bad. Sometimes making a change for the sake of being different can be fun. I like seeing a different look for the series

[junior kestrel]

I'd prolly use a splinter faction lead by brutes.

If not, than have chief say "I thought we had a truce with the elites"

[tight remnant]

It's annoying when people misname it

[junior kestrel]

Thanks.

Unfortunately I'll prolly forget

[placid tree]

I guess at the core of the issue is just that for some people changing something to change it is bad, and for some people like me…idk I just don’t care that much I like seeing new things lol

[junior kestrel]

Storm covenant also sounds cooler.

[tight remnant]

it's innacurate and comes from misinformation

it also comes from a people repeationg misinformation

[odd anchor]

Blehhh

[placid tree]

This is what happens when you’re a Godzilla fan, you stop caring about “what should be” and embrace the chaos of creative vision because every year everything looks different lol

[odd anchor]

I eat your soul

[hearty flame]

Unnecessary changes to a franchise for the sake of leaving your imprint is selfish and the sign of bad development direction, in my opinion. You're choosing to forsake the game's identity in favour of your own which shows you as a developer or publisher are compromising identity for something less.

[odd anchor]

Muahahahah

[balmy pagoda]

Here's the problem with that, most of the time when studios do that they sorta lose the identity a bit. Now it is possible to keep identity and change the art style but it's extremely rare. Especially now days.

[junior kestrel]

Why did they see fit to change what wasn't broken? In addition to let saber somewhat faithfully recreate all the models for halo 2?

[tight remnant]

i dont like trying to keep all the designs static

[hearty flame]

No one ever said that, I loved what Halo Infinite did with Bungie's art styles

[tight remnant]

i dont like how the MA37 model is used for the MA57

The worst AR in my opinion too

[placid tree]

Imo Infinite is definitely a good attempt at trying to please both old fans and make things look a bit fresh

[tight remnant]

Or the battle rifle is almost a carbon copy

[junior kestrel]

Much like changing the forerunners. Which is a change.

It was a selfish decision born out of frank's ego and writting.

[placid tree]

If only it had some actual visual variety lol

[hearty flame]

I'd love to see an example of what you mean

[balmy pagoda]

I thought the BR75 was the best design I was happy to see it return.

[junior kestrel]

I mean in 4.

[hearty flame]

I was replying to this #general-chat message

[tight remnant]

halo wars 2 does more of mixing than infinite does

[placid tree]

Idk the way I see it is that this isn’t Halo 3, it’s Halo 4. So just like how Reach feels really different from 3, this one feels even more different. I embrace artistic expression from the new team

[junior kestrel]

Infinite looked fine to me.

I would have prefered them to go all in on one way. Instead of making the g3 mk 6 this hodge podge of mk4 and 6 just make it a beefier halo 2 mk 6.

[junior kestrel]

My b

[placid tree]

I mean, the Gen 3 is definitely mostly just beefy Mk 6

[junior kestrel]

I agree. It is more factual technically.

[junior kestrel]

It's a fusion of 343's mk 4 and bungie's mk 6.

[tight remnant]

Sadly when they put a lot of the 4/5 armours in infinite, it doesnt look as good as it could be because of the way it uses the gen 3 core as plates on top of the armour

rather than fully swapping hte parts

[junior kestrel]

I personally would have simply made the geometry identical to h2a's master chief, broadend the shoulders slightly. And given him ammo pouches.

[placid tree]

Well you walk through forest and forest and forest and forest…and then you go indoors to the forerunner halls that look the same as the other forerunner halls…and then you go to the banished outposts that look like all the other banished outposts. Like good grief, some visual variety please, I don’t care if it doesn’t make sense lol

Oh and like all the brute bosses look basically the same

[junior kestrel]

I prefer the things being load bearing gear on top of the chest plates like in reach.

[tight remnant]

I still would have liked a more self defined look for johns armour

less halo 3 dependent

[junior kestrel]

Well some colours for them other than black and red would benefit them.

[tight remnant]

i dont, it makes it look bulky. and it loses a lot of identtiy

[junior kestrel]

... in all honesty it's a long time coming that he had been dawned in mk7

[tight remnant]

heliosrkill for example looks off proportions

[junior kestrel]

He's been slavishly strapped with mk6 variants since 2005

[tight remnant]

What?

[hearty flame]

Oh yeah for sure the world design is mostly awful, especially at launch. It was super disappointing

[placid tree]

Halo Infinite was clearly intended to be a course correction from the criticism fans had of the art direction, it’s good what we have…but what we have isn’t enough

The result is that at the end of the day, I find 5 the far more visually impressive game

Even if 5 looks less Halo

[potent mirage]

needed MORE time in the oven tbh

[hearty flame]

I think it needed FEWER hands on it

[placid tree]

Halo Infinite suffered a crap ton from contract workers only being able to work for 18 months

[placid tree]

This was made infinitely worse by the engine being unique and hard to learn

[hearty flame]

We don't know who's to blame for that but someone mishandled Infinite's development along the way and that really shot it down

• WFH didn't help

[junior kestrel]

I'm saying chief has been in effective, and story wise, the same armour for 8 years.

And irl for 20.

[placid tree]

We just have to pray it doesnt happen again because honestly there is very little excuse for how little the game has after 6 years

[hearty flame]

He has not been in the same armor for 8 years

He was in Mk V in August 2552, Mk VI in October, and in 2556 he got Gen 2 when he rejoined the UNSC

[junior kestrel]

5 didn't do any favours with all the materials and models making all the spartans look like they were in eva foam cosplays.

[hearty flame]

He's also wearing Gen 3 now in 2560

So in 8 years John has worn 4 sets of armor

Does he have any idea how expensive that armor is?!

[junior kestrel]

They didn't seem to bother with recycling models for the flashback cutscenes.

[hearty flame]

We already covered that topic a half hour ago

[junior kestrel]

Lol.

4 frigates?

[potent mirage]

His only concern is needing a weapon lmao

[junior kestrel]

Tell it to the covenant

[tight remnant]

2557 not 2556

[junior kestrel]

It's still all mk6 variants

[hearty flame]

Does Halo 4 take place in 57? I thought he got it at the end of the campaign which was in 56

[tight remnant]

July 2557

[junior kestrel]

Halo 4 does

[hearty flame]

Oh yeah the 7 months would add another year

[junior kestrel]

?

Wait did I get 4's date wrong?

[tight remnant]

I think you're misunderstanding mark VI

ODST did

[hearty flame]

My point still stands, bro had 4 sets in 8, years, of which he was only active for... 4 or 5 of those years

[hearty flame]

I'm really not

[tight remnant]

NOt you

[hearty flame]

Now I've misunderstood you

[tight remnant]

A bit hard to type a lot when grinding lots of points in survive the undead, its very intense

[junior kestrel]

Mk6, Mk6 mod and mk6 gen 3.

[hearty flame]

Mk 6 and Mk 6 mod are the same armor

[junior kestrel]

Halo 5 calls it mk6 mod.

[hearty flame]

Yes but it's Gen 2

[junior kestrel]

Regardless

[tight remnant]

Halo 3's Mark VI Gen 1 is an upgrade over mark V gen 1

[hearty flame]

Halo 2*

[junior kestrel]

I think halo 4 would benefit from being remade to be more cohesive with the prior and latter games.

[hearty flame]

I think Halo 4 would be well left alone as is right now

[junior kestrel]

Yeah?

[tight remnant]

the Mark VI Mod gen 1 is cortana's upgrade and better than before she upgraded it

Halo 2/3 same armour

then he gets gen 2 Mark VI Mod

So better than what he had

But uses cortana's designs

[hearty flame]

August 2552: Mk V Gen 1
October 2552: Mk VI Gen 1
July 2557: Mk VI Mod Gen 1, exact same armor as previous set
Late 2557: Mk VI Mod Gen 2
2560: Mk VI Gen 3

[potent mirage]

What's the armour that chief will be wearing in the prequel missions in campaign evolved?

Mark 4?

[junior kestrel]

The big things I would want to see in a 4 remake:

Mk6 g1 from forward unto dawn until chief is redeployed from the infinity.

Where he recieves either mk6 mod as some kinda temp repair, or mk7.

I prefer mk7 tbh as it has a much stronger design than 6m/g2

[junior kestrel]

Don't you mean 52?

[hearty flame]

Ye

[junior kestrel]

Most likely mk4 B, seen in the package and forward unto dawn.

[tight remnant]

The MOd version is an upgrade to the non mod version, but anyways, then he gets gen 3 which is an upgrade

[junior kestrel]

I don't like the generations system

It's what you had the mks for.

[tight remnant]

The Marks at that point in gen 2 and 3 arent like one ups anymore, they're variants

[hearty flame]

Mk VI Mod Gen 1 is the exact same suit as his Mk VI Gen 1, which is what I'm saying. It's not a different suit.

[tight remnant]

It's the same he wore but modified by cortana

Upgraded

[hearty flame]

Yeah and the topic was "How many suits has he worn from 2552 to 2560 in the games"

The answer is 4 because Mk VI Gen 1 was recycled into Mk VI mod. Whip of theseus and all.

[tight remnant]

A whole shift in MJOLNIR philosophy happened

[hearty flame]

But it's the same wood, so not whip of theseus

[tight remnant]

Ship

[hearty flame]

Nah it's 2025, whip of theseus

We don't do wooden ships we do car parts now

[tight remnant]

Whip is a car part?

[hearty flame]

Whip is slang for car

[tight remnant]

Oh

[hearty flame]

Tl;dr for those of us tuning in
Halo is a video game franchise currently headed by Halo Studios, previously 343 Industries, and previously developed by Bungie

[tight remnant]

Honestly, when you think about it Mark V and Mark VI are the odd ones out in terms of platform improvements and duration

[hearty flame]

I don't know enough about them to make such an analysis

I just know they look cool

[tight remnant]

Mark V and Mark VI did have lots of improvements but at the same time didn't last too long

[hearty flame]

Mk VI lasted John 4 years and about 10-11 months, I'd say that's a win

[potent mirage]

@hearty flame icl it was a clean warbond

[hearty flame]

I don't know what icl stands for

[potent mirage]

i cant lie

[hearty flame]

Tbh I feel I got ripped from the Warbond because I got it and maybe played another 10 hours before uninstalling, Helldivers 2 makes me so unhappy

It just runs so poorly and is horribly optimized

[potent mirage]

Thats unfortunate, for me the game's fine when they don't destroy the game with nerfs aswell

[hearty flame]

I think they pumped too much power into emulating cape physics and made the worst choice in modern gaming by optimizing for HDDs, thus bloating game files for everyone else who lives in the modern world

[junior kestrel]

I don't like the shift

[hearty flame]

Entire generations of Mjolnir were exposed to a rampant AI threat that would simply just crush you like a bug if they had easy access

They needed to make the leap

Look at Iratus, he crushed that one dude like a bug when he got access, isn't that right, Iratus?

[junior kestrel]

There was nothing wrong inherently with the marks.

Keep as mk 4, 5, 6, then 7 being introduced in halo 4. Chief wears mk 7 (with keystone, also make keyestone the default helmet) and uhhh... keep him in mk7 for a while. Chief goes with new default. It seems to be his thing. While blue team customise their gear more.

[junior kestrel]

Also. Again. Not a fan of infinite's multiplayer story. Every time they try to canonise multiplayer it kinda raises more questions.

I mean. They're excuse for not including elites is cause it's training. Except they also participate in the war games. And it would be good training to do so to help understand advisarial forces.

So regardless of that matter

Mk7 was already IN the lore. Why not just do that from the start?

[tight remnant]

Except the democratization of MJOLNIR happened and the explosion of variants and armours for new spartans

[junior kestrel]

Like I said. I don't like those elements of the lore. That also canonises the irl outsourcing of the designs to an extent.

[odd anchor]

Goodnight chat

[potent mirage]

hes just sleeping, so sleepy

[silent sierra]

funny that
how many actual inhouse artists does halo studios have right now?

[junior kestrel]

Pretty sure they were hunting some...

Also they don't even have their own website domain. It's still 343.

Correction*

google search, when looking for halo studios, says 343 industries, linking to a waypoint article.

[placid tree]

Imo the whole cadet thing is just kinda cringe lol

It really makes it clear just how cushy the newer Spartans have it

[junior kestrel]

This is also really not good to hear tbh: they don't have a creative director.

[placid tree]

To like a boring extent

[hearty flame]

They included Elites?? And Brutes, and Jackals, and Grunts, and the new floaty guys, and...

It's called Firefight and related gamemodes

[junior kestrel]

It's also got really silly implications when the s4s are supposed to be vets of the h/c war.

[silent sierra]

I dont think they need one right now
all the creative directing is already done for them
it's a remake

[placid tree]

HA

HAHAHAHA

[junior kestrel]

I'm saying I want to be an elite. Don't care how big my hitbox is. (I'm likely to actually loose more.) I want options and the occasional challenge.

[junior kestrel]

?

[junior kestrel]

Clearly they didn't understand the direction.

[placid tree]

The idea of Infinite Spartan 4’s being veterans, it cracks me up

[junior kestrel]

All s4s I mean

[silent sierra]

goes without saying
just because you have a blueprint, doesnt mean you automatically know how to build what is on it

[junior kestrel]

On that note: I think S4s should have had a detached/cold or even inhuman demeanour. Like a space marine.

Their brain chemestry has been rewritten in addition to their whole body being pulled appart and put back together.

Imagine how much more powerful the themes of 4 would be. "Abt being a machine" if chief was surrounded by copycats who act just like him. Not out of admiration but their brains have literally been irreprerably changed by the process of becoming spartans. In fact, becoming more machine than he thinks himself.

And also it could also be fed from them having ptsd and stuff.

[tight remnant]

Uh canon multiplayer has never been an excuse not to put elites in

[tight remnant]

what?

[junior kestrel]

There's a certain look and attitude with ptsd in a war setting have. Not the holywood ptsd. Hell might not be ptsd I'm thinking of.

There were some folk from nam. And other wars who look back fondly upon their service. All of it. And regret not being able to do it more.

I think that is the type of person that would be attractsd to becoming a spartan. Frank Castle types.

[tight remnant]

Honestly, that would... not be good story telling in my opinion. Not a good story direction

[tight remnant]

That would also suck for the storytelling of individual spartan-IVs in all the different stories

[junior kestrel]

It'd provide contrast between chief and what the unsc has become without him.

[fair elk]

@hybrid lynx hey play any halo wars 2 lately?

[tight remnant]

I don't see how that's contrast

[fair elk]

God I love that game

[junior kestrel]

Not entirely.

What we got is arguably worse.

What I'm suggesting is closer to noble team.

[tight remnant]

Noble team is like a walking trope troupe rather than well fleshed out characters

[junior kestrel]

It's contrast because of chief self reflecting. Cortana calling attention to it and other stuff

[tight remnant]

Being edgy and detached from emotion doesn't mean good story telling

John's growth with that is nice as it is in 4. It wouldn't really be great sacrificing the entire storytelling potential of an entire type of character just for something that wouldn't work out the best

[junior kestrel]

It's not edge, it's damage. And their brains being physically changed by the spartan creation process.

They've become what oni wanted. Wrapped in a seemingly ethically squeaky clean package that the massess accept and lap up.

Forgetting the sacrifices it took to get there. Who it sacrificed.

[echo cloud]

The spartan 3s were inhuman because they were treated as disposable and were sent on suicide mission after suicide mission.

Spartan 4s were regular soldiers first so they actually have a shred of humanity because they were actually regular humans for a time

[meager linden]

Spartans still humans, they can feel
I don't understand point of detaching them from emotions, it's dumb actually

[tight remnant]

The actual human spartans that aren't lobotomized in emotion for the sake of edginess, are more of a masses accept and lap up thing

[junior kestrel]

Perhaps I'm not explaining well enough. But I'm trying to get at an idea. Conformity. All armies remove individuality. Imagine doing that all over again but magnified with super brain altering drugs, and mega steroids and stuff.

[tight remnant]

and also, typically they're not going to chose soldiers who are known to be heavily unstable to become spartans and just potentially walking time bombs...

[echo cloud]

That was the whole point of the spartan 2s

They were indoctrinated from a young age

[tight remnant]

And the idae too is to... make spartans into a better thing than what they were started as, not make them ethically worse

Especially too with the landscape of the galaxy changing. No longer backs against the wall. There's more time and room to breath, regrow, rebuild

[junior kestrel]

And guess what all militaries do? They indoctrinate. Imagine the hazing process they have for s4s.

It'd have to be more brutal than the 2s.

[tight remnant]

No... that's just trying to be edgy

[junior kestrel]

The unsc is still absolutely has their backs against the wall. There's only a few worlds left.

[tight remnant]

There's more than a few worlds left

They definitely still have been a power post-war. the galaxy fractured, helping the UNSC breath. Yeah there's still dangers and hostilities, but, it wasn't under the same constant threat as it was during the human-covenant war

[short flicker]

what i like about the indocturination of spartan 2's at a young age is that if parallel to stuff happening in real life. it might show how dark humanity can be even when faced with something to solve objectively such as insurrection

[junior kestrel]

That's exactly what I'm talking about

[tight remnant]

And this is halo, not warhammer

[junior kestrel]

And it's not edgy. It's reality. It's hard, cold and cruel. Halo had flashes of which.

[tight remnant]

It's not supposed to be all grimdark

[junior kestrel]

I said like. Not the exact same.

[tight remnant]

One recuring theme in halo is hope

[meager linden]

All armies remove individuality

I don't think it's right actually
If someone serving in military, like for a lot time(let be... for 10 years), you can find friends, new companies

What about Spartans
2 and 3 was kids
First was kidnapped, second was orphan
They been trained under pressure to be something bigger

Spartans 4, they different
Maybe some was recruited, mostly veterans of war

Even if noble team would alive, they'd for sure will found same language for 2s or 4s
They all military guys
(Maybe that's a lot text lol)

[junior kestrel]

There's definitely a lot of that. The wave tactics of the s3 children

The s2 washouts and deaths during the proceedure.

[tight remnant]

Halo's never been full grimdark no. And those elements don't make it grimdark

yeaeh it can be brutal and dark yes, it's part of it

but it's not the sole focus of it

[meager linden]

Third generation augmentation was more... more dangerous than 2s

[signal wedge]

Indoctrination doesnt have to be something strictly Spartan programme relaed it could stem from UEG education and propaganda. That being said most IVs are volunteer based and some even have betrayed their comrades

[junior kestrel]

The initial process is to reduce individuality and getting people to think and act alike so they can do the same jobs. Basically.

[tight remnant]

You're overblowing it

[junior kestrel]

Which is also something I wanted tk feed from.

[signal wedge]

wasnt it safer? no casualties im pretty sure

[tight remnant]

The gamma ones were the more dangerous ones, since they needed stabilizers

[signal wedge]

kind dumb thing if they are gonna be sent on behind the enemy lines missions

[junior kestrel]

Maybe. But I'm trying to say in regards to 4.

The initial spartans we meet being way more stoic than chief, would add contrast to him being more in touch with his emotions and his situation with cortana. And lend something to her commentary of machine and stuff. They forgot they're not JUST cogs, or machines in a greater effort.

[junior kestrel]

They were disposable cause of how many there were. Which I think is silly considering how many humans there are. And how many s3s would have been put to better use in mjlonir.

[tight remnant]

MJOLNIR was very expensive...

[tight remnant]

I think it wouldn't have made it better at all.

[junior kestrel]

I'm aware. But so are super soldier orphans

[tight remnant]

I also really like the post-war period

[junior kestrel]

They are tremendously VALUABLE.

[tight remnant]

You should read ghosts of onyx, it goes into detail

[junior kestrel]

Hm

[junior kestrel]

Even with cortana telling you, they seem to have forgotten who is the machine.

[tight remnant]

The post-war period where the different species and factions try to find their way in this new galaxy, hope, danger, stability, instability. It's a very cool and exciting time

[tight remnant]

I hope you don't take a lot of offense to it, but I'm very glad you aren't in a position of influence over the halo story

[fallow iris]

What a nice thing to say

[signal wedge]

I think having a stronger navy is a better investment than the Spartan program

[junior kestrel]

... Okay... It's not exactly a refined idea.

Realistically, it would only be in halo 4, with maybe some background spartans in 5 helping feed the theme.

[meager linden]

This was good 6 minute break

[junior kestrel]

Also that.

Not all wars are on thr ground. And you can only have so many spartans.

[past trellis]

Not unless you kidnap more kids and spend more taxpayer money

[candid comet]

Hey anyone familiar with Halo MCC SPV3 mod?

[fallow iris]

Augmented child soldiers go brrr

[silent sierra]

played it a long time ago

[candid comet]

do i need to have halo cea intalled for it to work?

[silent sierra]

you can have an mcc install too, doesnt need custom edition
but you will need to make sure your steam and mcc install are in the same drive

[candid comet]

ok they are thankfully

[silent sierra]

mine arent and it didnt let me install
and I didnt feel like installing custom edition

SPV3 isnt that great anyway
unless you enjoy CE with Reach gameplay mechanics, and levels that are 5 times the length of the originals

the main guy who made the mod (i dont know if he still works on it) really LOVES reach

[candid comet]

oh? im just wanting to replay CE after a long time so i thought it would be fun to give this mod a try too

[silent sierra]

if you want a more vanilla CE but improved try Ruby's Rebalance
there is also Combat Revolved but I didnt really feel that one was a big enough improvement

SPV3 changes nearly everything except for the broad campaign bullet points

[candid comet]

got it

[junior kestrel]

Also that remark was really uncalled for

[junior kestrel]

Another matter.

Chief symlathsing for ecsherum should have only been a scene if the player collected all the relevant audio logs.

Otherwise he's just another brute who probably ate some fellow humans. And yk. Had just tortured Fernando.

Actually his own character doubts shouldn't have been put to page cause of what his forces at large have done. Rounded up humans probably for eating.

At no point in halo 3 did arby or chief try to appeal to truth, and neither had they comforted him in his death

[fickle drift]

Is cancer easily removable in the halo universe

[junior kestrel]

Provided you're at the appropriate facilities, yes.

[blazing idol]

The thing is that, per Halo Epitaph, the Mantle is something to be rejected and not taken

It basically serves as a test. The true nature of the mantle is that it is something to be shared rather than be held by one "dominant" species as a piece of imperalist dogma

This kinda gets at the whole point of the Mantle plotline actually being a great place to go for the post-war story, where Humanity is top-dog, the Elites are in a civil-war, and the Covenant's remnants are running amuck

Taking those pieces having the seeds be planted for stuff like the Arbiter's Concert of Worlds

Chief or whoever acting as a stand-in for humanity rejecting taking on the Mantle in favor of working with the Sangehelli and whoever else in mutual respect

Really, a lot of the ideas and concepts put forth in Halo 4 and the wider Reclaimer Saga era are good, but ⅔ of them wound up being heavily compromised or just not explored enough

[lucid hornet]

I realize the thing I've felt has been missing from infinite and campaign evolved was that ce to 5 (maybe not including reach, hence why it's one of my least favorite aesthetically), is that there was a campy ish theme in the ui or just kind of in general. halo1-3 was anime-y, ce specifically had that energetic menu. 2 and 3 had that kinda cool mystery ambience, 4 had a cool sci-fi pc ui kinda vibe. 5 had a more general but still sci-fi vibe. reach was kinda gritty looking. Infinite and Campaign Evolved feel a bit actually futuristic and modern, but it lacks energy imo.

actually reach had a nice main menu ui. it felt very military

5's menu tbh is a little lackluster, maybe I'm looking at it with nostalgia glasses, but I can remember there was something about the ui that screamed sci-fi

ohhh it was the bloom. the bloom on the button were cool. tbh all ce needs to do is that and id be totally fine with it

[jade gust]

Midnight in the Heart of Midlothian makes reference to how it's easy to treat as of the 26th century but still requires surgery, as the main character of that short story has cancer and the only reason he wasn't immediately killed by the Covenant boarding the Midlothian was because he was going under for the procedure

[potent mirage]

The "test" referring to the flood right?

[meager linden]

Good day people of Halo
How it's going?

[timid roost]

I think thats just implicit, im 90% sure the flood hasnt been confirmed to be an official test for the mantle by the precursors

It just fits well

[clever basin]

Halo 4 13th birthday was yesterday

[normal owl]

Happy to see reviews allowing non-"cinephiles" like me to enjoy what looks to be some good fun.

"All in good fun for a B-movie, and “P: B” does not pretend to be anything else. Put it another way: It’s the kind of movie that assumes its audience is drinking beer and shouting back at the screen. If you expect anything intelligent to happen, you’re the alien."

[stuck wind]

So is the halo tv show a alternative universe or something or

[steady jolt]

Different timeline - Silver timeline

[junior kestrel]

Since we're on the reach engine, I think it'd be cool if the Index was on cheif's model when we're carrying it around.

[stuck wind]

What’s a silver timeline?

[steady jolt]

The name they gave to the timeline that the show runs on

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/silver-debrief-a-new-beginning

[stuck wind]

And what timeline does the games take place in?

[steady jolt]

Can't recall if they have a name for it

[jade gust]

Chief only holds the Index physically twice, once when he retrieves it from the Library, where Spark immediately takes it from him, and then when he inserts it into Halo's systems, when Spark hands it back to him. After those two times, Cortana has it until she uses it in Halo 3 to activate Installation 08

[steady jolt]

I don't know if it is explicitly the Reach iteration of blam being used. All that was said is:

All of the new content created in Unreal Engine 5 is layered on top of code and systems carried directly over from the original games.

[jade gust]

Yeah, that's a real vague statement

Like, I wouldn't be surprised if it's less they've layered UE5 over a full version of Blam and more they managed to find a way to make it read and utilise aspects of Blam without needing the whole engine. But I never learnt about how the process of making a game engine goes so I'm not really the best to talk on what's going on under the hood

[stuck wind]

So I got a question

How active is halo 5 compared to a call of duty that’s out of its life cycle

For example cod Cold War

[obsidian wyvern]

probably the same

[stuck wind]

Seeing as halo 5 isn’t on pc we got no idea how much Xbox people play it daily

[naive turret]

Cod has more franchise saturation tbf so it’ll probably even out. I just know no-one plays Ranked Elimination.

Or at least because matchmaking is bugged I could never find anyone.

[stuck wind]

In the time it took to go from infinite to the campaign remake we got like 4 cods btw

That’s what I like about halo, quality over quantity

[naive turret]

That’s probably bigger than I intended lol
Ah well

[stuck wind]

Ayo what

[naive turret]

Pain.

[signal wedge]

“Quality”
And your first example was a subpar campaign and game on launch. And a remake

Between the release of GTA 5 and 6 there would be 3 Halo games in between the span of 13 years

[stuck wind]

I wasn’t there for launch so I got no idea how it was

[signal wedge]

I was there 3000 years ago Gandalf

[stuck wind]

I joined about the end of season 4 heading into when firefight came out

I hope 343 learned from the mistakes from infinite and when the next halo comes out, not the campaign remake is good

[obsidian wyvern]

so u joined when things were heading in the right direction lol

[analog knot]

https://i.imgur.com/19ZQyhI.png Made me think of this

[obsidian wyvern]

awesome https://i.imgur.com/19ZQyhI.png

[naive turret]

Anyone hear Mr Bluesky faintly in the distance

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[warm nimbus]

So how is the campaign remake is it good

[jade gust]

The remake isn't out yet

[warm nimbus]

When

[jade gust]

Next year

[warm nimbus]

Is there a month mentioned

[naive turret]

No firm release yet. Conventional wisdom suggests Nov 15th for Xbox’s 25th but anything could happen.

[jade gust]

I imagine they may change that given the GTA VI news

[analog knot]

aka if GTAVI comes out that month it would be silly to keep a Nov date

[warm nimbus]

☠️ Maybe they delay

[naive turret]

It is what it is.

[obsidian wyvern]

im never getting my halo 7

10 years of infinite yeahh

[analog knot]

I remember when Silksong came out, Peak had a big sign at login that said "We know you're going to go play Silksong have fun", self aware devs are great

[stuck wind]

I can’t see the photo

[jade gust]

Nothing so far indicates if it will need a delay yet, it's not like it was intended to release by the end of this year

[analog knot]

Revenant embedded it above for me 😄

[warm nimbus]

I mean true it's just a campaign, they shouldn't delay

[jade gust]

I am really hoping we get some Halo 7 news next year. Like even if it's just confirmation of it coming at some point

Also is this the real Rev or is the clone still about?

[obsidian wyvern]

who knows

[glad cape]

Hello chat

[warm nimbus]

They have to release it next year.

Like a new game and not just a remaster or remake

[jade gust]

Campaign Evolved is releasing next year. I doubt Halo 7 will release in the same year

[glad cape]

Probably to continue the story after halo infinite
Or another spinoff

[warm nimbus]

That's only for single player fans

[analog knot]

Dont worry, Infinite and MCC will continue to get updates for the Multiplayer folks (right?)

[obsidian wyvern]

if it releases during the same month, its likely the potential sales will plummet lol

[stuck wind]

Jesus these devs keep butchering stuff

[jade gust]

It'd still be a bad idea to have Halo 7 release in the same year as Campaign Evolved because it'd make people pick and choose which one of the two to buy upon release. It's why you don't usually see two games in one franchise release in the same year

[warm nimbus]

Well they shouldn't release on same month then. Maybe one in June one in december

[analog knot]

Its not unique to Halo either, companies would be naive to ignore it. They undoubtedly are all watching and adjusting timelines because of it.

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah

[warm nimbus]

We see pokemon legends arceus and shining pearl/diamond

[analog knot]

If companies moved releases because of Hollow Knight 2, they will b/c of gta lol - no offense to silksong its still massive but the scales are way different

[jade gust]

BDSP was 2021, Legends Arceus was 2022. If anything, you should've used Scarlet and Violet releasing in the same year as Legends Arceus

[obsidian wyvern]

even around the launch date is a bad idea I'd think. with how expensive people are speculating the game will be, people are probably not gonna be spending money on CE just before GTA releases

[warm nimbus]

Oh yeah that

[jade gust]

But last I checked, Legends Arceus was right at the start of 2022 and Scarlet and Violet was at the end of the year

[obsidian wyvern]

and then you're risking releasing it soon after because they'll probably just be hooked on the game

[warm nimbus]

Then halo should do this too

[analog knot]

And I keep forgetting companies are going to experience this twice - since its only the console release in 26

[warm nimbus]

They didn't mention when campaign evolved will be out just 2026. Hopefully they release on Jan/Feb 2026

[obsidian wyvern]

oh yeah true lol

[jade gust]

I doubt Campaign Evolved is releasing in January/February

[warm nimbus]

Don't jinx it

[jade gust]

If it was, they would've said "early 2026"

[jade gust]

Oh no, I fully intend to jinx it

[warm nimbus]

They didn't say late 2026 or mid 2026 either

[jade gust]

The safe bet was November 2026 until the GTA VI delay

[misty marsh]

I'd hope it would be mid 2026 earliest

[stuck wind]

Here’s a question, what would revive halo?

[obsidian wyvern]

nothing, next question

[drowsy coyote]

Invent a Time Machine, find a formula to transport halo fans consciousness to their child self and hibernate them forever in bliss.

[jade gust]

I think that would just create a bunch of really toxic kids

[misty marsh]

Unggoy farmer + dating sim

[solemn galleon]

Gn chat

[ocean herald]

"so how did yall meet"

"oh on unggoy's only"

[signal wedge]

Master Chief

[fallow iris]

Nothing

Halo's days are in the past

And thats ok

[solemn galleon]

Bringing back playable elites and duel welding..oh and johnson

[candid tusk]

You've got a point, these are the only things 343i didn't try. With HS we may have some hope.

[signal wedge]

BRing back halo 4/5 Spartan character designs

[meager linden]

Gen 2 mjolnir would be enough

[snow fractal]

I’ve been messing around in forge again and I think with this in mind I have to say halo 2As forge might be my favorite. It keeps the classic forge formats but it has some of the most versatile assets to use that aren’t just metal structures like in reach. You can make some genuinely gorgeous stuff while retaining that accessibility.

[dusty yew]

Wake up

[echo estuary]

This is what we need.

Have you guys found any game yet that gives the same joy as playing Halo?

[obsidian wyvern]

really enjoyed helldivers, space marine 2 and armored core 6 this year

[meager linden]

Cyberpunk 2077, Armoured Core 6 Fires of Rubicon, Satisfactory, Minecraft, Factorio, TBOI and Diablo 4

[echo estuary]

Thanks I haven’t played any of these games yet

[fallow iris]

RE7, RE 8, HD2, TWWH3 and a lot of others

[echo estuary]

Thanks! Of these I have played cyberpunk and loved it. It seems I really need to check out armoured core 6 🤔

[fallow iris]

Armoured Core is just Souls mech fights and its awesome

[meager linden]

GOAT game

[trim saddle]

Happy Friday Spartans!

[meager linden]

Hello there

[trim saddle]

General Kenobi

[ocean herald]

how's ac6? is it fairly cinematic?

[junior kestrel]

Oh yeah.

Damn... I was kinda hopping to keep it on my back pocket or my hip or smt,

[ocean herald]

oh nvm i see now what you said about souls mechs lol

[eager jasper]

Armored core rocks, and I’m glad someone else is enjoying it, but someone else asked what’d revive Halo’s popularity. I think releasing 7 fully complete would easily do it.

Infinite was just as popular as Battlefield 6 was until the feature delays hit. I’m confident lessons were learned about that .

… maybe playable Jackal snipers if we’re really lucky. 🙂 that’d be chaos.

[meager linden]

By the way, I almost unlocked all TBOI achievements
516/641(80%)

[sturdy wharf]

H2 needler dual wielded (campaign only) - most underrated weapon in the series?

[eager jasper]

eh, it'd get better in halo infinite! Halo 2 is.. highly dependant on your difficulty.

its definitely underrated in halo infinite.

[blissful folio]

hey guys i just got done with all the bungie games (except odst) and i played reach last. and now 😥

just randomly decided to join this server cos i HAVE to talk abt that

[eager jasper]

Definitely play ODST. 😄

that's even better than base halo 3 in some aspects.

[blissful folio]

the only thing i know about odst is buck and the music. thats more than enough to convince me to play it

[eager jasper]

the non-linear hub world with tons of secrets to find is both an expansion of the halo world in general, and a callback to Marathon too.

the trilogy before halo that contained a lot of its features.

[brisk shard]

what killed halo infinite is that most people cant login to it lol
also no halo BR ? that was weird. No Halo CO-OP that was weird.

[brisk shard]

amazing games

[sturdy wharf]

Except the supercombine requirement doesn't?

[woven jungle]

Haii haiiii wsp

[junior kestrel]

Ngl.

I kinda want the game to be more stylised, look to the stencil shadow tests for halo 2,

and some that are still present in h2.

[lethal oracle]

isnt halo infinite good rn

[junior kestrel]

Dead game isn't what I'd call good.

[lethal oracle]

yeah thats the thing

[dusty yew]

There is coop in infinite?

[lethal oracle]

i played it back in 2021 hopped on the hype train then quit in december

[dusty yew]

Yeah it’s pretty good

Just needs to be revived

[lethal oracle]

what are halo fans playing then rn if they arent playing infinite

[dusty yew]

The old halos

Mcc, but there are people still playing infinite

[eager jasper]

Yuppers! Halo infinite is actually great now and I’ve been enjoying it. Everyone else is on MCC . I keep halo 1 populated on that! @lethal oracle

[trim saddle]

Can confirm, im still playing infinite almost every day.

Halo is pretty fun, yall should play it.

[obsidian wyvern]

cinematic in terms of like gameplay like Spiderman or

like it looks amazing, but it is not button combos or quick time events like that game

[eager jasper]

For something like armored core 6, the spectacle is within the gameplay itself and its mechanics, it doesn’t need cutscenes for big impact weaponry.

[naive turret]

The scale of some of the bosses looks mental

[meager elm]

Trash

[lethal oracle]

7k on steam isnt halo supposed to be more popular

[vagrant kettle]

Yes

[fallow iris]

I still regret buyin it at full price

What a dissapointment

[vagrant kettle]

People will yap about it being dead

But it’s still got a pretty big population

[fallow iris]

Halo is in cryo sleep, but at least the older games (before Halo 5) are still fun to play

[primal girder]

I believe halo campaign evolved will bring back a lot of hype

[fallow iris]

Maybe

Its still the first game, but with some expanded stuff

Infinite hype came and went pretty quick

[molten pelican]

It's solid, good variety of game modes and weapons, but a fairly small player base

[molten pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-thats-bait-tom-hardy-mad-max-gif-5055384

[dusty yew]

Yeah but that’s on steam there’s people playing Xbox too

[naive turret]

Infinite’s always worth a go since it’s free and all

[eager jasper]

I still reckon halo 5 multiplayer is really frickin' good. 😄

i have a ton of fun with that arena sandbox.

[molten pelican]

it's one of the best ftp shooters out there right now tbh

[naive turret]

The offering is solid, especially if you’re brand new. I’ve rang all my fun out of it but still.

[molten pelican]

yeah I say that even though I barely touch the game lol

Mainly just grind halo reach multiplayer and abuse armor lock

[obsidian wyvern]

tbh, at least in ac6, this is the only boss id say was huge. but the general scale of your ac vs the world is crazy. the amount of detail they put into everything as well just to show how big you are

[molten pelican]

yo the particle effects are beautiful

[obsidian wyvern]

the game looks amazing but i cant send anything without it being spoilers

[naive turret]

This is such a Sawano coded game istg

Next Sale

[obsidian wyvern]

youd never guess the soundtracks i listen to when playing lmao

cdkeys has it cheap rn, i think cheaper than when i bought it

yeah i paid 21

[molten pelican]

damn actually I might pick it up

2060 should run it okay

[obsidian wyvern]

its recommended specs are actually pretty low too

[meager linden]

Meanwhile, Strider: I am joke to you?

[fallow iris]

Yeah Imma use CDkeys when Campaign Evolved as well

[obsidian wyvern]

i completely forgot about the strider

[naive turret]

Oh good my 5080 can stay cool 😄

[meager linden]

Ice Worm not huge actually

[naive turret]

These games and their giant worms man

[molten pelican]

Its either helldivers or armored core

same price on cdkeys

[obsidian wyvern]

i mean cdkeys really just stores keys when the games gone cheap. so youd be waiting ages for ce

now helldivers doesnt run nearly as well as ac6 on my pc lol

[molten pelican]

thats my main concern

you play ac on controller or kbm

[obsidian wyvern]

controller

[molten pelican]

do I have to play them in order

[obsidian wyvern]

ive only played this game, afaik each story is self contained

[molten pelican]

nice

[molten pelican]

That would be hella fun

[naive turret]

tbf I’d rather have the horizontal sticks like an Eva / Knightmare but that’s a good start

[obsidian wyvern]

id love to use this wtf

[molten pelican]

sell you car

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/lancelot-suzaku-code-geass-jibun-wo-suzaku-kururugi-gif-13973462284319821811

[molten pelican]

bought.

[obsidian wyvern]

but yeah when im talking about the scale of your ac and the level of detail they put into the mission despite it being so miniscule

[obsidian wyvern]

i will say there are like 3 endings to the game so you might be a bit confused at first. there are like optional missions you can take on/miss by going a certain route

[molten pelican]

looks like il get over 70fps too with nice settings

cdkeys ftw

[fallow iris]

Im not in a hurry tbh

[naive turret]

Look at this guy, talking me into games smh

[obsidian wyvern]

ahaha

there is also a coop mod which is cool, but the best thing about that mod is (if you allow it) that other players can invade your pve session as an enemy ac

[vital raft]

all melee build is best build

[obsidian wyvern]

i accidentally got into this duos mission 3 times in a row and had their whole level reset so i felt bad about that lol

[molten pelican]

I just bought it as well lol

[naive turret]

I'll have to look into it

[analog knot]

I know someone who is a huge armored core fan, I got excited to gift him this

I didnt realize it came out 2 years ago, the way it was being discussed I thought it just came out 😭

[obsidian wyvern]

i think ive still got the mod downloaded so i could just send the file over

[obsidian wyvern]

im a big fan of dead games so

[naive turret]

(REAL)

[analog knot]

Ah just started playing my dead game this morning I feel that

[obsidian wyvern]

🤝

oh yeah i forgot to mention, you def want this game on your ssd. hdd takes forever to load

[analog knot]

First game, Halo 2 fiesta on lockout, fatal error. Rejoin -> Fails. Banned.

[molten pelican]

skill issue vro

[meager linden]

In front of The Wall AC looks mid or even small

[vital raft]

look up those videos of people putting AC stuff in elden ring

[meager linden]

No spoilers

[vital raft]

its insane how big you are but it just feels like your small cause everything else is insane

oh no im not gonna link the videos myself jsut look em up when your done playing it

absultely baffling

[trim saddle]

me when I look up at the stars

[trim saddle]

also welcome to the server!

[vital raft]

hello

finally got back into halo so decided to rejoin

[trim saddle]

Halo is a pretty fun game, a lot of options to jump into for styles of gameplay.

[analog knot]

MCC hates me today, another fatal error and a longer ban 🙁

[meager linden]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-again-see-you-see-you-later-farewell-gravity-falls-gif-6779596362581771423

[vital raft]

well i mostly got bored and its free so

[analog knot]

Got most of a game of dino blasters in so that was good at least

[rare cedar]

Your opinion is irrelevant as you’re now team hot oj AND you’re listening to kpop demon hunters good song tho

[vital raft]

love me the mauler and calcine pistol

[trim saddle]

also mantis squad

[vital raft]

makes corpses enter lower orbit

[meager linden]

He joined to the dark side of the force

[trim saddle]

I do enjoy making covie popcorn with the calcine disruptor

[rare cedar]

Yes the calcium disruptor is very strong

[vital raft]

i find it funny people hate on it so much

[trim saddle]

people sleep on the upgraded ravager too

[vital raft]

the volatile skewer is also the bomb

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-67-67-south-park-67-south-park-6-7-gif-13284396363591354590

[trim saddle]

67 Mantis's would be a fun gametype

[meager linden]

No

[vital raft]

my leaster favorite weapon is probably the normal skewer

[misty marsh]

six sevenn 🔥

[vital raft]

i would call this dumb but my generation liked nyan cat

[stoic ravine]

I'd take that cat over 67 anyday

[rare cedar]

At least neon cat had a fun song to it

https://tenor.com/view/mart-malmart-martholomew-amartment-discord-gif-5709981329461469864

[analog knot]

Everyone knows <my thing> good and <not my thing> bad

[meager linden]

I'd better would to listen PPAP than seeing 67

[eager jasper]

They're taking the hobbits to isengard! Now THAT'S catchy music. 😄

[misty marsh]

i hated nyan cat icl

[trim saddle]

definitely not adding this to play next

[stoic ravine]

Whenever the younger generation creates some new thing I'm like Homers Dad shouting at the clouds

[misty marsh]

ppap was fire bring it back

[trim saddle]

also the spinning cat song

[meager linden]

9 years ago btw

[trim saddle]

it was in fortnite not too long ago

[misty marsh]

atp im immune to finding out how many years ago things were

[analog knot]

https://fortnite.gg/cosmetics?id=20388

[signal wedge]

2016 was so peak

[misty marsh]

i play fortnite like biannually so i wouldnt know

[stoic ravine]

Fortnite is a fun time when you're playing with peeps

[eager jasper]

fortnite needs playable elites and i'll.. open my wallet, again. lol.

[obsidian wyvern]

aye, not when you're rushing to finish the battle pass because you bought it 3 months ago and didn't play it since

[signal wedge]

Idk for me ever since high school ended gaming has become so boring without friends.

[spare owl]

Really deleted my post? This discord is anti halo I swear

[signal wedge]

I need to play more friendslop games

REPO did not last long enough sadly

[obsidian wyvern]

I started playing rv there yet yesterday, my god is it so poorly optimised

[stoic ravine]

Mine stopped talking to me when I had my firstborn

[misty marsh]

i played repo just a few days ago good stuff

my groups moved onto the outlast trials now

[spare owl]

Whoever deleted my post 1v1 me on guardian

[obsidian wyvern]

didn't it get a massive update

[misty marsh]

lethal company died quickly for us tho

[analog knot]

Probably a bot - Edit: not like an insult, its automated

[misty marsh]

I have no idea, I was late to get on it

[obsidian wyvern]

my friend group all bought lethal company and we didn't play it together once

[signal wedge]

I guess whatever next 5 dollar coop game comes along I will play it

[misty marsh]

peak

[obsidian wyvern]

rv there yet just came out lol

[misty marsh]

we got a skinwalker mod to spice it up. Does the voice mimicing thing

[eager jasper]

You don't even have to spend 5 dollars for that. Just go play half life / sven co op. It even has playable master chief and elites! 😄

[obsidian wyvern]

half life 🛌

[eager jasper]

playable elites make any game better! Wort wort wort!

[calm fiber]

He’ll lose anyways..

[misty marsh]

I decided I was too broke for rv and that was the right choice cause the group only played it once

[stoic ravine]

Called out by the bot Holy

[signal wedge]

Looks fun

[rare cedar]

Ayo

[obsidian wyvern]

idk why but that game makes my fans run louder than Helldivers

[signal wedge]

Meh I have to grind war thunder again

[eager jasper]

I need to try helldivers. I think it has playable elites now, yes?

[signal wedge]

Helldivers so fun

[obsidian wyvern]

no what

[stoic ravine]

Gotta fight for liber-tea

[signal wedge]

Then it got bored fast

[obsidian wyvern]

we kill aliens we don't fight alongside them

[naive turret]

Oh it does? lemme just-

[signal wedge]

HFY

[eager jasper]

oh YOU'RE asking for it, ya see.. some aliens are more for managed democracy than others!

[signal wedge]

UNSC spreading democracy across the Milky Way should be a future halo plot point

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/illumiate-typing-illumate-illuminate-helldivers-illuminate-helldivers-2-gif-15184240225244851568

[eager jasper]

Your fellow helldivers might be a sangheili wearing a human costume! DUN DUN DUN!

[obsidian wyvern]

this looks more like ghostfreak than an illuminate but he's got the mug

[stoic ravine]

A person of culture

[obsidian wyvern]

i think I'm just somewhat young to mention it lol

[stray socket]

Halo Wars 3

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-illuminate-typing-illuminate-typing-gif-81572334491011310

[signal wedge]

No thanks

[obsidian wyvern]

that's more like them

[signal wedge]

Halo Wars 3 should be a novel

[stoic ravine]

I was 6 when it came out originally

[hasty zinc]

omg stckr are you around

[fallow iris]

A filthy squid

[hasty zinc]

new show for the little one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLJj4BjhXPw

[eager jasper]

Wait, are we not on the secure channel? How'd you get live video of me wort posting Revenant? hehehe.

[misty marsh]

I havent played helldivers so I thought that actually was ghostfreak

[signal wedge]

Is this canon

[fallow iris]

Cant be much worse than whats on now

[obsidian wyvern]

you should change that

[signal wedge]

Honestly how does one even keep up with canon with an IP that existed since the 60s

[obsidian wyvern]

imagine trying to keep up with Warhammer

[steady jolt]

Oh hello

Thanks!

[misty marsh]

no one I play with plays it

[hasty zinc]

np!

[fallow iris]

Just dont, its awful, inconsistent and full of retcons

[obsidian wyvern]

time to find new friends

[signal wedge]

I don’t even know where to start.

All I know is that huge warriors in big armor fight people with guns

[misty marsh]

do asda sell any

[obsidian wyvern]

let me find what I sent a while back

[obsidian wyvern]

Waitrose does but they're overpriced

[hasty zinc]

start cheap buy buying the miniatures and all the paint/materials needed

[stoic ravine]

Try Sainsbury's

[steady jolt]

[hasty zinc]

NOOOO

[fallow iris]

Just 3d print your figurines

[misty marsh]

flip waitrose, my friends alr bully me for even knowing what Ocado is, I'll be completely slandered if im caught with waitrose bags

[signal wedge]

I have a 3D printer that I have not used for two years

[misty marsh]

bet

[obsidian wyvern]

as someone who has only played space marine 2, trying to read the lore was just this

[fallow iris]

Use it to make GW angry

[fallow iris]

Humanity good, alien bad

[obsidian wyvern]

its too hard for me to get into

[fallow iris]

Its quite easy

[signal wedge]

Yeah I think dune was easier to get into

[fallow iris]

Like HD2, Super Earth good, rest bad

[obsidian wyvern]

my parents used to get ocado deliveries all the time but I didn't know they were Waitrose at the time

[stoic ravine]

Super Earth ain't good it evil

So are the marines in Warhammer

[signal wedge]

Super Earth is not evil lol

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/automation-typing-tyoing-automation-helldiver-helldivers-gif-315543709228373800

[fallow iris]

Yes Democracy Officer, this one right here

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/eagle-1-helldivers-2-bombing-run-helldivers-hd2-gif-10501530621739909663

[fallow iris]

You are going to the reeducation camp

[stoic ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-gif-12955705329524728485

[naive turret]

Nah we ain't got the budget for that.

[misty marsh]

Our uni household is strictly Asda ✊

[signal wedge]

Eagle 1 smite this traitor

[fallow iris]

SE has unlimited budget

Especially when it comes to traitors

[stoic ravine]

I need to gif too

[naive turret]

The cost of a traitor is one bullet.

[obsidian wyvern]

I actually found a pretty funny traitor clip today involving you

[fallow iris]

True

Who?

[signal wedge]

The starship troopers game looks so mid

[naive turret]

It's gonna be me lol

[obsidian wyvern]

I've never played with you so

[dusty yew]

Why Asda?

[fallow iris]

Thats because it is

[obsidian wyvern]

why not lol

[misty marsh]

asdas kinda peak (and most convenient for deliveries)

[stoic ravine]

What is a world where I can't send gifs

[dusty yew]

Tbf my family used to have deliveries from Asda

[obsidian wyvern]

I always go Tesco for groceries but they made the local Sainsbury's way bigger so it's kinda swapped to that

[signal wedge]

A world where the earth rotates on its on axis while orbiting the sun

[dusty yew]

I only trust meat if its from sainsburys tbh

[misty marsh]

I go tesco for quick things but our tesco is just a petrol station so it hasnt got enough

[dusty yew]

Or co-op

[misty marsh]

I have some very specific groceries i need stocked up on that only an asda delivery can cater to

[stoic ravine]

I have a farmfoods just down the road

[misty marsh]

I get meat from farmfoods

[dusty yew]

What is farm foods

[misty marsh]

peak.

[naive turret]

Nobody go to Somerfield nah

[misty marsh]

less common grocery shop but they do like every freezer food imagineable in large amounts

[dusty yew]

Ohh

[stoic ravine]

Beat me to it

[dusty yew]

Don’t think we have a farmfoods in Oxford

[misty marsh]

not just freezer food but predominantly
imagine costco but smaller and without needing a membership

[stoic ravine]

I have Farmfoods, Tesco, Lidl, B&M and Sainsbury's all around 15 minutes away

[molten pelican]

Who else is going to see badlands today

[misty marsh]

ugh ive still never been to a lidl

[stoic ravine]

Lidl is so good honestly

[dusty yew]

Lidl is lowkey goated

[stoic ravine]

The middle section always has some nice goodies

[misty marsh]

i keep hearing everyone left and right telling me to go to their bakery but theres never one accessible