general-chat

[obsidian wyvern]

infinites open world sucks imo

[grim pagoda]

It doesn’t matter what infinite could do, I am just talking about the story mode really..

[obsidian wyvern]

unless you mean a forge thing

[trim saddle]

Oh story? i was misunderstanding you then.

[grim pagoda]

Np 😄

[sturdy wharf]

If I had a nickel for every divisive second game with misleading marketing where you play half of it as the villain being humanized, fighting a cult and turning on their own faction... Then I'll have 2 nickels - which is not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

[grim pagoda]

I’m having a hard time choosing between 1 & 2 tbh

[faint mantle]

Portal 2 and Halo?

[grim pagoda]

I remember ragequitting H2 when I played it for the first time. Legendary was twice as hard as in CE

[trim saddle]

H2/3 campaign are hard to choose between honestly.

[sturdy wharf]

What? You don't play as GLaDOS

You just carry her as a potato for a while

[vagrant kettle]

I wish I had BF6 so much 😢

[grim pagoda]

Just play CoD 😛

[vagrant kettle]

I would, if I had cod

[grim pagoda]

CoD has it all, great gameplay, great helpful community :)))

[vagrant kettle]

You see, I don’t like spending money.

[grim pagoda]

Bring a report card to a nursing home then

[vagrant kettle]

[sturdy wharf]

H2 Legendary is just the devs trolling you, don't even bother with that BS

[grim pagoda]

H2 Legendary/LASO was one of the greatest FPS experiences I’ve ever had in almost 40 years of gaming

[sturdy wharf]

Does anyone here know which game I'm referring to?

[scarlet shoal]

Why I just love guns and the badassness of Spartans. They just feel powerful, free to do as they please.

[sturdy wharf]

If you're a masochist who likes Jackal snipers aimbotting you before you can see them maybe

[sturdy wharf]

Aren't they child soldiers lol

Or was that only retconned in 4?

[scarlet shoal]

Well yeah. They were child soldiers at first.

I don't think it's retconned.

[sturdy wharf]

Btw why is the covenant even still a thing after 3?

[scarlet shoal]

Idk why. Makes no sense.

[sturdy wharf]

I never got that

[steady jolt]

Halo 4 never retconned Spartan origins

[scarlet shoal]

"Things change a lot after 4 years". Is a bad explanation tbh.

[steady jolt]

The Covenant in 4 are a splinter faction

[scarlet shoal]

We literally worked with the "covenant" in halo 3.

[grim pagoda]

Halo 4 really gave me a W.T.* feeling when I played it for the first time. It felt like a total different franchise

Fighting those super saiyan robots

[sturdy wharf]

At least show us flashbacks to that like in TLOU2 (which is the other game I was talking about earlier btw)

[scarlet shoal]

^

[sturdy wharf]

But it's not even about the halo rings anymore, what's the point

[grim pagoda]

The point = making money

[sturdy wharf]

Just make the forerunners the main enemies, they already function like elites gameplay wise

[scarlet shoal]

You know the name of the game. HALO.

[sturdy wharf]

Or Prometheans? Are those 2 the same?

[vagrant kettle]

Not every covenant soldier abandoned their faith, so they got back together and made a mini-covenant

[candid solar]

Okay so do you know who Martin Luther is

Not the one from the 1900s

[sturdy wharf]

What's stupid is that 3 implied the elites at least were done with it

[scarlet shoal]

Prometheans are forerunner I think. But aren't humans forerunner? Obviously retconned but it just destroyed the lore tbh.

[steady jolt]

https://www.halopedia.org/Jul_'Mdama's_Covenant

[candid solar]

Do you think every human is a Christian?

[sturdy wharf]

Wait, why are there no brutes in 4 but there are elites? Wtf

[grim pagoda]

Thank god no brutes, I never liked them lol

[sturdy wharf]

No but then why aren't there elite enemies in 3 then

[candid solar]

Because you were fighting alongside the only allied elites.

[scarlet shoal]

Makes no sense. Brutes were our main enemy now elites are?

[vagrant kettle]

Billions of war-hardened elites that had been fed propaganda their entire lives, not everyone is going to switch sides

[candid solar]

And the orthodox Covenant was killing Elites. We knew before Halo 3 even came out that plenty of Elites not only still wanted to kill Humanity, but still followed the Covenant Religion, and Arbiter's was the main force. So they went their own path.

[scarlet shoal]

But most elites seemingly were on humanities side.

[sturdy wharf]

That doesn't answer the question lol

[candid solar]

It... Literally does?

You don't fight alongside the entire elite species in Halo 3. Jul is not shaking Chief's hand aboard some stupid ship in Halo 3.

[vagrant kettle]

You missed my point.
Most of them are.
Some aren’t, and joined Juls covenant

[candid solar]

You fight alongside the forces of one single fleet that is aligned with the Arbiter specifically.

[sturdy wharf]

The thing is like, you killed all the prophets and so you'd think that now their name would be tarnished (pun intended) in their society

[scarlet shoal]

I guess the remaining covenant is still numerous despite being a small percentage of elites.

[candid solar]

Yeah, and do you know what most non-Catholic denominations do?

[sturdy wharf]

But instead it's like nothing changed, if anything it went backwards to the halo 1 composition

[candid solar]

They don't follow the pope.

I find it funny that people find the concept of aliens having similarly mixed demographics and perspectives to humans really funny because it's literally explained in Halo 2 to be a thing.

[scarlet shoal]

I see why Spy K think it feels weird. It's like the covenant never changed. Especially with "lots of things change after 4 years" line.

[sturdy wharf]

But that still doesn't explain why you're not facing other elites

[scarlet shoal]

It's hard to buy.

[sturdy wharf]

2 implied the brutes were replacing them now, no?

[candid solar]

Because there are not unallied elites in the battlefield you fight in.

[sturdy wharf]

I'm actually not a biased 4 hater, I think Chief and Cortana for example are the most interesting in it

[scarlet shoal]

So all elites by chance were all your enemy even though most elites are still allies with humanity? So chief got some bad luck there?

[tropic kiln]

truth wanted elites out

[scarlet shoal]

I find it surprising not one elite was friendly.

[sturdy wharf]

That just seems contrived. By sheer coincidence none of the enemies you face ever since the brutes replace the elites in that one scene in 2 are elites? Not a single one?

[candid solar]

How on earth is something that literally happens in real life all the time contrived.

This is something that literally happened in World War 2.

[scarlet shoal]

Not one single brute by chance. Not one single friendly elite by chance when clearly there were a large amount of friendly elites.

[candid solar]

Where a German unit sided against the Fascist SS with a US and French force.

[candid solar]

Surprisingly Cults of killing humans tend to kill humans

Who knew?

[scarlet shoal]

It still doesn't explain why is there no single friendly elite?

[sturdy wharf]

I have no idea who is a stand in for who in this metaphor lol

[candid solar]

Because you are never in a situation where one would even be in the same zip code.

[grim pagoda]

What call of duty game do you speak of?

[candid solar]

...

[tropic kiln]

they were bad elites bro

[candid solar]

I swear to god I'm going to have an aneurysm.

[sturdy wharf]

Yeah but I'm saying the games after 2 seem to cheap out on you regarding enemy variety

[tropic kiln]

evil elites from the evil elites group

[sturdy wharf]

Also btw 1 doesn't make sense in retrospect without brutes in it for some reason, even Reach has them

[scarlet shoal]

But why not one single friendly elite. All of them were bad. But we knew a large amount of the covenant were of humanities side. So master chief has awful luck here?

[steady jolt]

If you want to read up more on the Covenant and elites from Halo 4, and why they are the way they are, I dropped a link already

https://www.halopedia.org/Jul_'Mdama's_Covenant

[scarlet shoal]

It also doesn't make sense brutes aren't present. Not even one?

[sturdy wharf]

That's actually something they could add in the upcoming remake, now that I think about it!

[candid solar]

Because Jul was racist against Brutes.

It's literally that simple.

[tropic kiln]

why would a friendly elite join jul mdama

[grim pagoda]

Doesn’t matter that reach has them, it happens in many more games where X species are in the prequels but not in the original etc.

[storm summit]

I see this discord is having another intellectual discussion

[candid solar]

As for Jul... Why would a cult of "We want to kill humans for our gods" have someone who doesn't want to kill humans join it?

[sturdy wharf]

I just realized that 2 is the only Bungie game with all enemy types, all the other ones miss at least one

1 doesn't have brutes, 3 doesn't have elites and Reach doesn't have flood

[grim pagoda]

Ahw the flood, such an amazing enemy

[storm summit]

Halo 2 doesn't have the progenitors

[grim pagoda]

What’s the name of the mission in halo 2 where you have to drop into these shafts etc. And go through dark hallways where flood run around

[candid solar]

It's a simple concept.

You have the Orthodox/Original Covenant, which has ousted the elites and is continuing on their religious journey.

You have the Swords of Sanghelios, who have mostly disavowed the Covenant Religion and is led by the Arbiter.

You have splinter factions such as Xytan and Jul's Fleet and Covenant, respectively. They both still believed in the Covenant Religion, and killing humans.

And you have unaligned Mercenaries, Ex-Covenant Cults, or Colonial Governments, who are basically irrelevant.

[ocean herald]

Flood outbreak hadn’t occurred yet so canonically it makes sense no flood in reach

[safe dawn]

What is this conversation 😭

[sturdy wharf]

Well I haven't played a lot of franchises with Aliens in them, so

[scarlet shoal]

Okay that one makes sense. So this different type of covenant was after something that other covenant groups (with brutes) wouldn't even be after and master chief just stumbled on a specific elite only covenant group?

[sturdy wharf]

Only Mass Effect and Dead Space but neither of those have prequels

[storm summit]

Much intelligence

[candid solar]

I am suffering Primus.

[tropic kiln]

Sacred Icon

[scarlet shoal]

That's not what I am implying.

[sturdy wharf]

I guess Doom: The Dark Ages counts?

[grim pagoda]

Yes thank you, such a great mission!

[storm summit]

Then what are you implying

[safe dawn]

X to doubt

[muted rose]

Nothing

[tropic kiln]

explain yourself

[storm summit]

I see

[sturdy wharf]

Oh, right

[scarlet shoal]

Shouldn't their be one friendly elite who stumbled across this planet? Maybe that planet wasnt their target.

[candid solar]

Yes and no. They got lucky and found it. Other splinters would likely want it too, but the one that specifically found Chief didn't like Brutes much.

[scarlet shoal]

I see.

[storm summit]

Yes, explain yourself we are so freaking mad right now!!!!! This is seriously serious...

[grim pagoda]

There are friendly elites, H2 and H3 has them

[candid solar]

Literally why. Why would there be a single Friendly Elite anywhere in the vicinity.

[safe dawn]

That.. makes no sense

[candid solar]

Requiem was in a very specific place, it's not somewhere one friendly alien ends up by accident.

[grim pagoda]

Some people take convos about this game a bit too serious

[scarlet shoal]

Makes sense.

[grim pagoda]

Just a bit…..

[tropic kiln]

the evil elites cant be good bro theyre evil

[safe dawn]

Some people don't take it serious enough and think

[storm summit]

Is this whole conversation about friendly covenant being at requiem bruh

[safe dawn]

Yes.

Apparently

[vagrant kettle]

Most smartest thing said today

[ocean herald]

Lack of friendly covenant was my takeaway

[grim pagoda]

XDDD

[storm summit]

Space is a big place, you don't typically find somewhere specifically unless you're trying to lmao

[candid solar]

The evil guys are evil and do not hire the good guys.

[sturdy wharf]

I can respect having deeper world building and all but I kinda miss having the covenant be more simple... Well, not completely one dimensional like they were in 1, but not this branched out either

[safe dawn]

Even when you're trying to its hard lol

[candid solar]

The Covenant weren't even one dimensional in CE.

[safe dawn]

Ie the covenant looking for earth/colonies and the halo rings

[sturdy wharf]

The what?

[storm summit]

Hmm, but what about the lower wages that the good guys need???

[safe dawn]

The covenant found humanity by accident lol

[storm summit]

The Progenitors of course,do you not know what they are?

[safe dawn]

You mean the precursors....

[storm summit]

No there's a difference my boy

[candid solar]

Ah. They're "memeing".

[sturdy wharf]

They kinda were? They even made the elites just make funny noises before they retconned it into English (which come to think of it actually makes less sense, but still)

[storm summit]

The Progenitors appeared in high charity

[safe dawn]

Yeah one exists in halo one doesn't

And I ain't your boy.

[candid solar]

The elites were at the Halo array for a specific mission and had a lot of different overarching goals and hints at their religious philosophy. Additionally, Halo Fall of Reach had already expanded a little on the Covenant's goals by the time CE hit shelves.

[storm summit]

Colloquially referred to as a jest! ☝️🤓

[storm summit]

Calm down there squirt

[safe dawn]

Stop talking down to me first

[sturdy wharf]

I just realized that the forerunners had the same dumba*s plan as the reapers from Mass Effect: save humanoids from their oppressors by... killing the humanoids (???)

[grim pagoda]

Lmao

[candid solar]

I'm not about to say CE's read on the Covenant is deep because it isn't, but it's not one-dimensional.

[storm summit]

Stop making it funny for me to do it first

[grim pagoda]

Get a room you 2

[steady jolt]

@storm summit knock it off

[storm summit]

How bout them apples

[safe dawn]

Its not funny if not everyone is laughing.

[storm summit]

Okay

[grim pagoda]

I am actually laughing my bum off

[pliant hatch]

well they probly think we make funny noises as well.

[grim pagoda]

These convos crack me up for real

[balmy pagoda]

What did I stumble into this time

[candid solar]

Sigh.

[ocean herald]

It was the only way to stop the flood (supposedly)

They also didn’t want to let go of the mantle, and warred with humans, which weakened them even further

[sturdy wharf]

In that case how can Arbiter and his friends talk with and understand them

[candid solar]

Translations and learning English.

[grim pagoda]

Those were amazing missions, playing as the Arbiter

[candid solar]

A lot of members of the Covenant species learned some English or were fluent in it in order to determine battle plans and such from humans on the fly.

[grim pagoda]

I enjoyed that a lot more than these ‘jump into a big transformer’ missions

[trim saddle]

I'm surprised the UNSC doesn't have an auto translate mod they can install in the brain

[safe dawn]

They do (kinda)

[grim pagoda]

H3, H4, heck even Reach has too many missions where you are controlling vehicles, I really disliked that

[sturdy wharf]

Now we need Steve Downs to say "wort wort wort" (it's only fair)

[candid solar]

Same reason real world militaries have people who learn the language of other cultures for the purpose of cooperation or information.

[safe dawn]

Chiefs armor auto translates for him

[balmy pagoda]

Don't crap on my Mantis lol

[pliant hatch]

reality is bungie probly just wanted to make it easier for players to follow.

[sturdy wharf]

Wait... But the opening cutscene of 2 shows arbiter and the prophets speaking it. Were they all practicing? Lmfao

[safe dawn]

... what.

[grim pagoda]

Sorry buddy, I’d advice you to play that mech game on the OG xbox then

[sturdy wharf]

Like why wouldn't they speak natively on their home planet?

[scarlet shoal]

Halo needs to be like armored core.

[balmy pagoda]

Completely forgot that game even existed until now

[safe dawn]

They are... but it doesn't make sense to write an entire scene in a made up language when that made up language doesn't exist yet.

[pliant hatch]

they were. it's likely in english so we could understand it instead of using subtitles.

[safe dawn]

Also this

[pliant hatch]

otherwise it'd be a lot of worts and bluh bluh bluhs

[sturdy wharf]

I guess you can try going the "subtitling gibberish" route but the voice acting is pretty good so I glad we got it anyway

[indigo lotus]

Like what did expect them to say? Some sort of gibberish language?

[safe dawn]

This is like asking why people in an anime set in japan are speaking english when its the dub of the anime

[balmy pagoda]

Plus it was probably more time efficient.

[grim pagoda]

Are we seriously talking about this? The fact that the devs translated the Covenant’s language so that we would not have to read but so we could listen? This is some next level tragedy right here……

[safe dawn]

Idk man, the collective IQ be room temp these days

[candid solar]

An audience needs to understand the words being said.

[sturdy wharf]

I liked it in the original SW trilogy but then they just sorta gave up after that with all new alien types

[safe dawn]

Also again: the language system for sangheili didn't exist yet

[pliant hatch]

I'm fluent in wort

[safe dawn]

Because it doesn't make sense to write a new language entiely for like 3 seconds in a movie???

[candid solar]

Building a fictional language takes time and effort Bungie did not want to make

[grim pagoda]

Ok so in movies, it gives a certain form of originality if species speak their own language

[sturdy wharf]

I mostly just think it's funny, but yeah it's a nitpick to be sure, I'm fully aware of that

[balmy pagoda]

A lot of the attacks were also telegraphed by the enemies talking.
"Everybody duck". Rather then having to read subtitles and such.

[sturdy wharf]

Well to be fair this is a big reason why people often prefer subs

[grim pagoda]

You got that movie with Tom Cruise playing that high german commander right, can’t think of the name real quick. The entire movie is in english and to me, while it is a good movie, it takes away a bit of it’s authenticity because of it.

[grim pagoda]

It’s not a nitpick, but I don’t want to be banned here so I won’t comment on it.

[safe dawn]

As someone who prefers subbed since I'm learning JP, that went over your head by miles

[sturdy wharf]

I also appreciate it when non americans speak a different language

There's a very funny scene in Inglorious Basterds about that

[grim pagoda]

I am dutch, I speak Italian, English, German and Dutch obviously.

[grim pagoda]

BON GIORNOOOOOOOOOO

[vagrant kettle]

That movie is art

100% artistic and comedic genius

[grim pagoda]

Tarantino should direct the next Halo game

[sturdy wharf]

Well unless you were joking you weren't being very coherent

[sturdy wharf]

With Sam Jackson as Johnson?

[grim pagoda]

Oh god… xD

[tropic kiln]

"trust me, this scene showing cortanas feet is important!"

[safe dawn]

No you just missed the point

[grim pagoda]

Is Johnson going to give Cortana a footmassage?

[safe dawn]

Ngl Sam L jackson doesnt fit as johnson

[grim pagoda]

And Master Chief isn’t having that and throws Johnson of a 30 story building

[safe dawn]

Lol

[sturdy wharf]

Ok 😐

[safe dawn]

Johnson somehow survives bc he's him

[sturdy wharf]

Then get that dude from Aliens, they're basically the same character

Wait that movie is like 40 years old, nevermind lmao

[grim pagoda]

AI can do a lot, keep him in it

[sturdy wharf]

I forgot how time worked there for a moment

[candid solar]

Pain. Suffering. Agony.

[steady jolt]

@open token #1076327824924872755 is our spot for sharing your live streams

[misty marsh]

Agreed

[grim pagoda]

Oh stop being such a dramaqueen

[abstract ermine]

privet ky again?

[raw crag]

whos that

[haughty palm]

Fr halo wars 2 multiplayer canon

[junior kestrel]

I want the flood's aesthetic to shift.

[grim pagoda]

Nice try

[raw crag]

what

[junior kestrel]

Darker. Like rotten and sickly. Like nectotic flesh.

[misty marsh]

Pulp fiction kill Bill guy

[vagrant kettle]

He’s a famous movie director

[raw crag]

whats kill bill 💔

[raw crag]

oh okay thanks

[grim pagoda]

People seriously going for the bait 🤣🤦‍♂️

[misty marsh]

Hes either baiting or it's cause he's a new gen

[raw crag]

i dont care about movies

[junior kestrel]

I prefer mr Blomkamp

[normal patio]

I lowkey want 2 more Halo games and then for the series to end permanently, which would never happen because of money, but I think it would be good for its legacy.

[misty marsh]

You'd be surprised how many people born after 05 don't know tarantino

[raw crag]

cause ive never watched a movie before

[normal patio]

Maybe just 1

[grim pagoda]

I learned a great line from a British movie director: Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

[vagrant kettle]

They’re really good
Especially Star Wars

[raw crag]

whats star wars

okay im baiting now lol but thanks for telling me who tarantino is

[junior kestrel]

I dunno. Main line... maybe. I just want the banished to be finished. Cause we never finish a story line properly.

Or we start over. Redo halo 4.

Make the story switch between chief and the didact for missions.

[abstract ermine]

Me

[grim pagoda]

A story about a chosen boy who’s daddy became an emo goth kid who then get’s trained by this green smurf who teaches him to control secret powers.

[misty marsh]

The one with the daleks

[junior kestrel]

Make the didact feel like... the master chief of forerunners.

[vagrant kettle]

Hear me out:
Halo Romance Simulator

[grim pagoda]

Stop

[junior kestrel]

Cease.

[raw crag]

GOATED!! linda-058 and the gravemind here i come

[misty marsh]

Pls get a job at 343i

[normal patio]

Main line, yeah. There's lots of ways to continue a franchise after it's mainline story has concluded; a good example would be Gears Of War 4 and 5, although those games weren't the best story wise.

It would be nice to see things just.. conclude.

[misty marsh]

THE GRAVEMIND???

[grim pagoda]

Now if you talk about Mass Effect Romance Simulator, the game itself has one already and it is pretty neat!

[misty marsh]

Dareal go to bed thanks

[junior kestrel]

I was abt to say 4 and 5 have... a lot of issues.

[raw crag]

im joe king

[grim pagoda]

Hi Joe

[misty marsh]

Uh huh...

[raw crag]

but please make a halo dating sim. i wanna kiss the chief on the helmet

[safe dawn]

Please no.

[grim pagoda]

That’s kind of sexual to call it a ‘helmet’ but ok

[safe dawn]

Like I will pay to have that not hapoen

[grim pagoda]

Whatever floats your boat…

[normal patio]

Companies can't let games die.

[raw crag]

he wears a helmet

[grim pagoda]

If you want to call it that way

[normal patio]

If it brings them money

[raw crag]

halo 5 is best halo every other halo sucks

[misty marsh]

What if i put Linda in halo 3

[grim pagoda]

Your attempts to bait needs some work still

[glad flower]

There’s plenty of different stories they can do other then the Master Chief there’s really no reason to end the series!

[raw crag]

campaign evolved looks terrible. who would even set the trailer as their pfp

[raw crag]

then it would go from 5/10 to 11/10

[junior kestrel]

@normal patio if you ask me.

Story from the start should have been exploring the forerunner flood war while chief is reactivated on genisis.

Flashing back and forward between the perspectives of chief and the didact.

Before we come upon the didacts cryptum.

Imagine how much of a wtf moment it'd be to see him rise and he looks like a scared up human. Deforemed and a little mutated from his immunity experiments.

(This works better if forerunners were human like bungie intended and confirmed at the end of 3.)

[misty marsh]

What's your opinion on the spr- 🔫

[grim pagoda]

Imma go watch some episodes of Only Murders In The Building

[normal patio]

That would've been awesome

[raw crag]

halo 4 is the best halo stop saying its bad i cant take it anymore

[junior kestrel]

To help with this conflict the modern day conflict is like. Idk. Neo covenant/splinter faction, either brute or elite focused. Since 3 was brutes I say brutes be the main enemy.

With some elites on occasion.

[junior kestrel]

Glad you actually like my idea.

[junior kestrel]

Halo 4 is bad. I'm sorry. It could have been good.

[grim pagoda]

So is 3 but yet people still love it

[misty marsh]

This is all bait

[junior kestrel]

It should have been good.

343 was literally handed the golden goose.

[junior kestrel]

Bait used to be believable.

[grim pagoda]

I honestly think I am the only person who passionately dislikes halo 3

[ocean herald]

Only good Halo was Reach

[junior kestrel]

No. You're not. But it's okay to have wrong opinions.

Many people do.

[grim pagoda]

I know people think it is bait but I am not that type of guy.

[misty marsh]

Only mid halo is odst

[junior kestrel]

Now that's bait.

[grim pagoda]

Opinions fortunately cannot be wrong

[raw crag]

i hate 3 as well dont worry

[junior kestrel]

I'm playing.

[steady jolt]

It's definitely my least favorite of all the games

[raw crag]

i havent played odst since i was 6 i cant give a proper opinion on that

[misty marsh]

Is it?

[junior kestrel]

Smells like it.

I really wanna kill atriox

[raw crag]

eh.. i would say 5 was the worst story wise and i think thats universally agreed on. 3 had at least some sense and its moments but 5 was just bad all throughout the campaign

[junior kestrel]

Brutally. Violently.

[hasty gull]

I thought 3 was good but 2 was the best

[junior kestrel]

2 has the best story. It's great. But it's balance isn't as good as 3's.

[raw crag]

at the end of the day i still love all the halos in their own way and thats been my opinion for the past 13 years cause im a jolly soul

[grim pagoda]

The constant interruptions by Cortana is so incredibly annoying

[junior kestrel]

I'll grant you the to war thing is silly.

But she at least gives actual orders after the scene ends.

[hasty gull]

True true. I finished 5 yesterday, story was decent. Just starting infinite

[junior kestrel]

Not present in coop.

[odd anchor]

Wort wort wort

[grim pagoda]

No friends, no coop

[ocean herald]

3 was also meant to be the send off title, so i think the story was a bit limited as a result.

Story order for me is 4, Reach, 3, CE, 2, & 5. I won't include ODST since it's a spin off

[junior kestrel]

And they only happen like... 3 or 4 times.

Gravemind included... makes it abt 6?

[raw crag]

chief: breathes cortana: master chief save me.. im dying.. aghhhhhh 2 minute cutscene and you can barley move

[raw crag]

like.. 6 or 7 times for me

[junior kestrel]

I'm sorry you put 5's story over 2? Or am I reading it wrong?

[grim pagoda]

What about the mission Cortana? The mission itself is annoying and then…THE INTERRUPTIONS DOESN’T MAKE IT GO ANY FASTER!!^!#$^!%!#@%U$!@^@%#!

[ocean herald]

wat

5 is last in my list there

[junior kestrel]

It's 5 seconds in a 40 minute mission.

[raw crag]

its from best to worst, starting with 4

[junior kestrel]

Oh.

[misty marsh]

5 and 3 have such peak gameplay but everyone, especially towards five, hates on them too hard for their story 💔

[junior kestrel]

Why is 2 so low?

[ocean herald]

strictly story. not factoring gameplay, mechanics, mp

[misty marsh]

I didn't even know people found halo 3s story mid until I got here 💔

[junior kestrel]

I like 3. But I will not stand for the slander of 2's story being worse than 3s.

[grim pagoda]

4, Reach, 3, ODST, Infnite, 2, 1 (never played 5 so cannot rank it) - from worst to best imo

[misty marsh]

2 had the best story hands down idc

[viscid brook]

does anyone know when the infinite ranked reset will happen?

[grim pagoda]

It did, and also gameplay, yet I find myself playing CE more than 2

[junior kestrel]

Story wise for me it goes.

2, ce, odst, 3, reach 4 and 5.

[raw crag]

my personal list is

in story order: 4, 2, infinite, ce, reach, 3, and 5.

[ocean herald]

split pov was kinda average, LOTS of gondolas lol, ending wasn't great

[raw crag]

i dont rate ODST cause like i said before i havent played it since i was 6

[junior kestrel]

Unbelievable to me lol.

[junior kestrel]

It was like 4 gondalas.

[ocean herald]

i draw the line at 3

[junior kestrel]

And we're ranking story.

[misty marsh]

I need to replay these since I have some biases that may need to be overcome a bit (I can't make myself say anything bad about H3)

[raw crag]

2 had PEAK multiplayer and gameplay

[grim pagoda]

@candid solar are you still alive sir?

[grim pagoda]

COD multiplayer > Halo

[junior kestrel]

2 had peak story and multiplayer. Campaign as an experience is messy.

[raw crag]

messy but fun so whatever

[junior kestrel]

Halo story and campaigns I rank seperately:

Halo 3, ce, odst, reach, 2, 4 & 5

Halo 2 is just too unbalanced in campaign.

[grim pagoda]

WHAT?!?!?!?!??!

[misty marsh]

Agreed, should've been 85% vadam and then the rest could've been chief

[raw crag]

kitso whats your opinion on 4

[grim pagoda]

Dual wield needlers is amazing

[amber mirage]

For me, stories from best to worst go: 4, 2, ODST, Wars, CE, Infinite, Reach, 5, Wars 2, 3

2 is hard carried by the Arby half. Chief half is weak

[junior kestrel]

Enemy difficulty.

[misty marsh]

I loved 4, lowkey might be my favourite game play experience and I think didact was lwk my favourite antagonist too

[junior kestrel]

Jackal snipers. 1 hit melee kill elites without swords.

[raw crag]

i wish the didact had a different haircut he wouldve been so much better

[misty marsh]

But again, biases from growing up with it but 4 is 3rd place for me

[misty marsh]

Don't diss my diva

[junior kestrel]

Elf guy played by hugo weaving in lord of the rings.

[amber mirage]

@hasty zinc post the pic

[raw crag]

he sleeping i think

[misty marsh]

Unc

[junior kestrel]

I'd be more fine with 4s story if didact was a effed up human super soldier.

Cause that's what the forerunners were.

[raw crag]

oh god not the human and forerunner debate

[junior kestrel]

But that ignored like... every other problem with 4s story.

[trim saddle]

Halo is a really fun game honestly.

[raw crag]

forerunners are a seperate species than humans

[junior kestrel]

I am the reclaimers biggest soldier.

[trim saddle]

I haven't found a series that's stuck with me as much as halo has.

[junior kestrel]

It was. Now it's entrenched with so much heated debates.

[steady jolt]

Yeah, gonna say let's not do this one tonight. We've had it to death for the last 3 days

[junior kestrel]

Spark and marty say they're human. There is no debate.

Humans were forerunner until halo cryptum.

[trim saddle]

Still is, I ignore that stuff because it's a pointless thing to worry about. I don't let things get in the way of my own entertainment.

[raw crag]

marty could say the sky is blue and i still wouldnt believe him. i hate him with all of my heart

[trim saddle]

Why debate videogames? Just have fun.

[amber mirage]

If I wasn't trying to get through other games, I might still be playing

[junior kestrel]

Kinda prove my point tbh

Marcus also said they were human.

[misty marsh]

My eyes are closed gng

[junior kestrel]

Only voice of decent was Frankie.

[misty marsh]

I refused to be part of one

[raw crag]

for the love of god im gonna run over my computer if we debate forerunners again

[junior kestrel]

Now he's out. We can get the lore back to how it was.

[misty marsh]

Yeah let's debate prejoggers instead

[junior kestrel]

You can just: not debate.

Or are you threatened by the fact that I'm right?

[sturdy wharf]

Is it just me or is ANOTHER Halo 2 Remake completely pointless?

2A still looks gorgeous, arguably the best looking Halo game

[junior kestrel]

There is no halo 2 remake

[misty marsh]

Nothing to do with anyone being wrong or right. It's just an exhausting debate that happens too often

[raw crag]

it was a remaster and dont discuss rumors/leaks in this server

[junior kestrel]

It would prolly ohly happen if campaign evolved is successful

[sturdy wharf]

Anniversary might as well be that, it looks like a high budget 3d animated film / show

[sturdy wharf]

What? Why not

[silver arch]

Idk if anyone here is a fan of CSM, but holy hell Reze Arc was phenomenal

[raw crag]

i follow 343s canon, so i think youre wrong. you follow bungies canon, so you think im wrong. different views on the story.

[sturdy wharf]

Is that against the rules? Howww

[raw crag]

read the rules you agreed to follow when joining the server.

[supple anchor]

@haughty surge

[candid solar]

YOu'd automatically be right anyways, official canon trumps ex-Employee headcanon.

[supple anchor]

react if u can see this @haughty surge

[raw crag]

exactly

[candid solar]

Mr Grim can think they're right all they want, by default they literally, definitionally, would be wrong, in the same way you can't really argue with the Pope otherwise you're a Protestant, not a Catholic.

[wheat ridge]

firefight or btb

[junior kestrel]

I follow bungie's canon because elites aren't stupid dumb brutes who don't believe in medicine.

[candid solar]

That was Bungie era canon.

[raw crag]

i love the 343 elites idk what yall talking about

[candid solar]

They are assuming something that was canon in Bungie's day wasn't.

[wheat ridge]

they're my favorite after H2A campaign elites

[junior kestrel]

Kilo 5. Elites don't believe in medicine. Or medics

[candid solar]

Ghosts of Onyx pointed this out earlier.

[junior kestrel]

It's simply the dumbest thing ever written into halo.

[vague abyss]

Greetings!

[candid solar]

Gonna blame something, blame the right source.

[raw crag]

i mean i dont see an issue with it

[junior kestrel]

Than if that's the case than I reject that book.

[candid solar]

So you reject Bungie era canon.

[raw crag]

thats sangheili beliefs and culture so

[candid solar]

Further, you reject canon, so your take is automatically incorrect on matters of accuracy.

[raw crag]

gold toof

[candid solar]

Much like Femstodes, sorry bud, big man made it, it's canon, all you can do is be mad on the internet.

[raw crag]

but 343 have spr*nt so bungie is canon /j

[misty marsh]

Censor that word pls

[junior kestrel]

343 or bungie canon

There's no changing what's been said.

Human history is it? Why would you hesitate to do what you've already done? This time none of you wi be left behind. I see now why your forefathers left you behind, you are weak and gods must be strong.

You are forerunner, but this ring is mine.

[misty marsh]

Thanks

[steady jolt]

We're not doing this

[junior kestrel]

Yeah. Yeah I do.

[steady jolt]

Find a new topic please

[bright shoal]

arguing about canon when clearly fanon is superior

🥹

[junior kestrel]

Bingo.

[hearty flame]

arguing about canon when Spartan 1337 is clearly superior

[bright shoal]

halo legends is just non-stop peak tbh

[raw crag]

i should take over halo and make it the greatest franchise of all time

[bright shoal]

almost makes me wonder why 343 thought a live action show was a good idea

[junior kestrel]

Ehhhh. Origins 2 stinks

[hasty zinc]

it def stops at the sangheili episode and then continues after

[bright shoal]

the best episode

[raw crag]

i loved the live action show

[junior kestrel]

Origins 2 stinks so bad it takes place in the "what if bungie had a extra year to make halo 2" timeline.

[bright shoal]

an elite who isn't a dunce and an arbiter?

[misty marsh]

In my canon, me and arby are married, 3 kids, 3 cats, 3 unggoys with a white picket fence

[junior kestrel]

No seriously if that happened halo 3 would have just been humanity and covenant fighting the flood.

[vague abyss]

How's everyone's night going?

[raw crag]

replace that but with linda for me

[bright shoal]

in my canon mickey was on the planet grey team bombed

[hearty flame]

can you stop with this whole "It's bad so I'm ignoring it" rhetoric

[hearty flame]

and then replying to yourself because no one else cares to acknowledge your ignorance?

[bright shoal]

I mean yeah halo 2 isn't exactly what its MEANT to be

[raw crag]

STOP FIGHTIINNGGGG!!!

[bright shoal]

I dont fight with anyone Im too eepy for allat

[raw crag]

we should all hug and hold hands and lay in flowers with huge lolipops and propeller hats and be jolly

[bright shoal]

also I play warframe more than halo nowadays

[raw crag]

"yeah i hopped off peak to play dookie"

[bright shoal]

warframe is the peak

[raw crag]

bruh

[bright shoal]

halo reach is fine

[junior kestrel]

You completely miss my point with that statement.

[bright shoal]

why do people target halo reach sm lol

[raw crag]

mods should just ban the word forerunners honestly

[hearty flame]

It's one of the great melting pots of the franchise

[bright shoal]

and still the best game of them all

[junior kestrel]

You serious? I put thought and effort into that statement.

[hasty zinc]

you were asked to move on

[raw crag]

stckr kindly asked you to move on and find a new topic

[junior kestrel]

I just wanted to finish my discussion.

[hasty zinc]

then do it in DMs or somewhere else

[bright shoal]

lowkey its such a ignorant move to stop a topic because you dont like it

[hearty flame]

Being a melting pot isn't antithetical to its quality, but it's divisive because it being a melting pot means you're mixing so many difference "styles" of Halo together that no two fans of different styles can agree, creating friction

[junior kestrel]

Even if you think it's getting too heated

[bright shoal]

but hey we all gotta sit on our little safety bubbles because god forbid someone talks about something they're passionate about 🥹

[raw crag]

its not because they dont like it, its because its an annoying discussion and has been going on for the past week. everyones sick of it.

[hasty zinc]

and it turns into personal attacks

[bright shoal]

womp halo's dead let the remaining fans talk

[hearty flame]

stckr is typing

[junior kestrel]

For that matter. Who are you to police what people talk about so long as it's civil enough?

[misty marsh]

That and it's almost never productive and becomes a back and forth of insulting each others opinions

[steady jolt]

We've had it to death for the last 3 days, the same argument over and over rehashing the same points. It's tiring and we don't need the same crap again. It's not ignorant. It's keeping things civil and chill

[bright shoal]

true, I would've said I was forerunner and obliterated all of you

[junior kestrel]

Where was the personal attack in my last post on the matter?

[trim saddle]

They're mods and admins lol

[bright shoal]

a fine frivolous powder

[junior kestrel]

Oh wait. We can't find it cause you deleted ot.

[raw crag]

key word it TURNS into personal attacks.

[hasty zinc]

I didn't say you.

[steady jolt]

So once again, new topic please

[hearty flame]

Genuinely if you'd like to stay in the server you should probably just stop

[steady jolt]

@hearty flame please don't get involved here

[obsidian wyvern]

when will halo get giant enemies like this we can actually fight

[trim saddle]

Anyways, what's your favorite armor core in infinite?

[hasty zinc]

Chimera

[bright shoal]

none the game sucks

[raw crag]

mark V (b)

[trim saddle]

Oh no, anyway.

[vagrant kettle]

🪤

[misty marsh]

If we're lucky they'll promise us one then cut it out ✨✨

[junior kestrel]

That we agree.

[hearty flame]

Missed opportunity for a real kraken fight in 5, rip

[bright shoal]

shhh dont say anything

[obsidian wyvern]

wait there was literally that halo 4 one that got cut

[raw crag]

because it has the most armor that i own. im gonna move to a different core soon though so i can use the halo 5 chief armor

[coral yoke]

hey any channels set up for talking about modding the game?

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-2-truck-truck-helldivers-truck-helldiver-vrr-gif-2472713961769139458

[bright shoal]

bait always works on halo fans

[naive turret]

actual footage from our last mission btw

[raw crag]

im pretty sure theres a server for halo mods you can discuss

[obsidian wyvern]

except in a massive oil tanker lol

[naive turret]

It was as big as a house I tell you

[steady jolt]

Rakshasa

[trim saddle]

Mine too and idk how to explain why lol

[raw crag]

rakasha would be my fav if i had enough armor for it. i only have stuff from season 1-winter update and some armor from the exchange and new operations. i love the chestplate with the teeth on it

[coral yoke]

i'll look for it. thanks

[raw crag]

i just want cross core chestplates

[bright shoal]

Mirage and Halo wars mark IV are the best cores in infinite

[hearty flame]

I really want to like Mk VII but I feel like all the permutations for it aren't really in Halo's style, they're too different.

[obsidian wyvern]

where is the original image of this lol

[bright shoal]

everything else not really

[raw crag]

search up halo 4 leaked 2012

[obsidian wyvern]

oh found it nvm

[vagrant kettle]

[lost ridge]

When does the community spotlight update?

[trim saddle]

This would be the most difficult to pull off honestly, I want cross hands, wrist, and thigh stuff first.

[naive turret]

I did know the game that came from but I forgot

[raw crag]

he looks like hes in gears of war/bulletstorm lol

[hasty zinc]

Gunman Chronicles

[junior kestrel]

I remember this.

[vagrant kettle]

Now that thats over

[nocturne sleet]

Hi

[raw crag]

i remember the early days of infinite. no cross core was a nightmare. you boys know nothing about the select select X glitch.. /j

[junior kestrel]

Cracken should have been like a suped up scarab.

[hearty flame]

The early days of Infinite were a nightmare period

[raw crag]

i put 150 hours into season 1 and 2 though it was peak for a bit

now im back into the game since its better

[junior kestrel]

Chest plates wouldn't work cause of geometry being different.

[obsidian wyvern]

what was the context to that one halo 5 warzone image that always went around again

[vagrant kettle]

I started playing multiplayer the day before crosscore helmets.
I’m so lucky

[raw crag]

which one

[hearty flame]

Yeah but because it's modern Halo, not only was it so polarizing, but a lot of peoples' hopes were dashed by a lot of things, most explicitly the early death of the non-campaign story

[hearty flame]

I missed out on the all-black visor
I'm not lucky

[raw crag]

i own the all black visor
im lucky

[hearty flame]

I also missed out on that one Mk V variant that I forget the name of

[junior kestrel]

Speaking of. Imagine if warzone had evolving maps. Like battlefield's levelution.

We get major stage hazards like scarabs and stuff that players compete to destroy for massive points.

[raw crag]

mk v (b) which i own too

[hearty flame]

No, Mk V B you get with Season 1's pass, but all cores are free now I think

It's the default helmet for Mk V B

[junior kestrel]

Just another waste of potential.

[bright shoal]

like all of halo currently

[raw crag]

i clearly dont understand this joke what

[naive turret]

it's him

[steady jolt]

I will never not love this one

[hasty zinc]

it's Halo 3, that's the joke

[raw crag]

no discussion of that

[raw crag]

was the original photo a leak?

[junior kestrel]

I mean. Bungie capitolised on the potential and squeesed it dry by reach. When one doesn't live up or misses something the next runs with it.

2 scarabs for instance.

[naive turret]

that deco for the railgun is actually pretty solid, breaks it up nicely.

[junior kestrel]

Kinda wish the rg was longer.

[obsidian wyvern]

wait was this the mcc image articles used

[hasty zinc]

this is the IGN or gameinformer one IIRC

[junior kestrel]

And had an enclosed barrel. With a scope. It'd be more useful.

[obsidian wyvern]

yeaa

[naive turret]

I like that one image where Chief looks like he's clutching the Railgun like a baby

[obsidian wyvern]

thing is u search it up and lol

[junior kestrel]

Weapons with potential, wasted potential or were never developed on more:

[obsidian wyvern]

why did so many use it

[hasty zinc]

https://tenor.com/2lsS.gif

[obsidian wyvern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/471722331820130326/961314951304204368/John_Unyshek_Thumbs_Up.gif

[vagrant kettle]

“Shshshshshhhhhh baby”
“It’s ok”
“It’s all over now”

[hearty flame]

Do Spartans even count as Infantry or does their armor make them count as vehicles

Are Spartans technically pilots

[junior kestrel]

Assault rifle with gl, bulldog type, plasma weapons (all of them), railgun, spartan laser, rocket launcher with homing.

[junior kestrel]

Infantry wear armour. So they're infantry, eva and special forces.

[naive turret]

I'm not sure, is Iron Man a pilot

[hearty flame]

I would say so

[junior kestrel]

They can be pilots.

[obsidian wyvern]

but are pilots pilots

[vagrant kettle]

Uuuhhh no

[junior kestrel]

But they are primarily. Advanced infantry.

[obsidian wyvern]

that sentence is enough to get me to boot up titanfall 2

[hearty flame]

Protect the pilot by any means necessary!

BT! BT NO!

[junior kestrel]

Why don't we have a game abt the prototype suit?

Or smt like it?

[naive turret]

if only :pain:

I feel like there's a distinction between something you operate with normal motion vs having controls
Like a Medieval Knight isn't a pilot except that one guy

[junior kestrel]

[hearty flame]

But Mjolnir kind of has controls since it connects to their neural interface

[junior kestrel]

Knight piloting is

[junior kestrel]

In the same way the guns, and helmets of the grunts do.

As well as high up ranks do for battle space awareness.

[hearty flame]

The guns in Halo can operate without connection to your neural interface though

[junior kestrel]

True

I like the eye piece and visors

[hearty flame]

At least until Mk VII, I think all in-use Mjolnir requires Spartan operation and a connection to your neural interface

[junior kestrel]

Halo 3 brutes wear power armour. Are they pilots?

[junior kestrel]

Non aug humans can use it. At their own risk.

[hearty flame]

"Unlike the MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor worn by Spartans or the Sangheili harnesses, Jiralhanae power armor does not augment the wearer's strength or speed, though due to natural strength of Jiralhanae, this isn't much of an issue."

Their PA just provides armor and shielding, nothing more

[junior kestrel]

It's powered. It's power armour by defition.

[clear prism]

Alright fellas I’m halfway through halo 2 , I just watched a flash back and seen the elites and hierarchies were at war before. But then they came together to form the covenant. Where did the brutes come from cause it seems like they’re boutta replace the elites, but they arnt related to elites or anything.

[hearty flame]

I never said it wasn't powered, but it's definitely not piloted by way of not augmenting strength or speed

[junior kestrel]

Power armour is infantry/operator, mechs are piloted.

[naive turret]

You'll see some of it in future Terminals, but the Covenant was formed slowly over hundreds of years. iirc the Brutes are the most recent additions to their conglomerate.

[junior kestrel]

Wait sangheiki harnesses enhance them.

That means that they're pilots by your definition.

[vagrant kettle]

Through the years of covenant expansion, they came across different planets and let the species there join, or forced them to

[hearty flame]

Yeah it's quite possible that they are piloting their armor too

[clear prism]

And they never knew of earth but knew of reach ?

[hearty flame]

the galaxy is really big

[junior kestrel]

Spartans are operators, they have been stated as such before.

[vagrant kettle]

They kind of just stumbled on human planets as they went to war

[odd anchor]

[snow sage]

I just completed a LASO run of infinite and got the LASO achievement but I didn’t get the legendary achievement??

[junior kestrel]

Regardless of where the lore came from I still think the elites not believing in medicine is dumb. Every warrior culture in human history has valued healers to some extent.

[hasty zinc]

well earth was located because of a forerunner artifact IIRC

[junior kestrel]

Seems dumb.

[naive turret]

Might take a minute to pop, close and reload if it doesn't.

[snow sage]

Yeah I thought the same thing idk why it didn’t give me it

[junior kestrel]

His name is Mendicant Bias.

[hasty zinc]

no

[clear prism]

It’s crazy the arbiter never lost a battle besides the one chief just blew up which forced him to become the arbiter. Tough world bro kill billions and never lost and they said see ya later

[junior kestrel]

And he was a traitor.

[vagrant kettle]

The keyship autopiloted, right?

[junior kestrel]

Maybe thinking of the wrong one then...

[hearty flame]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-jesse-walter-white-gif-25245234

[hasty zinc]

it was just a device, not an AI

[junior kestrel]

I'm not gonna bring up contact harvest if you don't.

[hasty zinc]

https://www.halopedia.org/Luminary

[junior kestrel]

Oh that thing.

...

[vagrant kettle]

Yeah I got confused, I thought Truths forerunner ship flew to earth on autopilot

[clear prism]

Did you guys play odst when playing all the story games?

[vagrant kettle]

I’m not all here tonight

[junior kestrel]

What?

[naive turret]

Aye, I quite like ODST.

Mind you I don't really do full Campaign marathons

I just go back to the missions I like.

[hearty flame]

I do at least "Prepare to Drop" or watch a video where it syncs up with Halo 2's in-city jump

[clear prism]

I’m on one right now it’s pretty fun learning the story, and I have yall who know everything

[junior kestrel]

Here's an idea:

[desert belfry]

😶

[junior kestrel]

Halo procedural mission game.

Look at helldivers or deep rock for what I mean.

[naive turret]

I'm good thanks. I like considered environment and encounter design.

If I want Helldivers I'll play Helldivers. Like I did about a half hour ago.

[desert belfry]

tem brasileiro aqui além de mim?

[junior kestrel]

Encounters can be more controlled by having squad based spawns.

Which can build further unto platoons.

[junior kestrel]

If the procedural systems can be hacked out right we could end up with something that looks like it was.

Otherwise... uhhh. Spartan ops 2.0

[naive turret]

Nah I just don't want that in Halo. I want a good Halo.

Then it can do whatever it likes on the side.

[junior kestrel]

Spartan ops 2.0 could be good. Given that the missions are good and story isn't too intrusive.

[naive turret]

SpOps I'd rather handled like the Operations in Space Marine 2 if at all.

[junior kestrel]

Agreed.

Or basically feel like... reach except the whole fireteam is various flavors of noble 6

I think a new spops could work should the missions and loadouts be set.

I really wanna be sent to kill insurgents by oni spooks.

Please. Please let me kill space terrorists.

[naive turret]

what's with wanting to kill humans in Halo, I don't get it

I see it a lot and I never understood

[ocean herald]

yeah makes no sense

[peak sequoia]

Starting my Halo 3: ODST legendary playthrough tonight, anything I should know?

[cedar turret]

I mean have you met a human? They're all weird and gangly

[trim saddle]

Because it's the dark side of the origin story of Spartans that some want to see.

[junior kestrel]

So you don't wanna kill insurrectionists?

Or humans in a covenant focused campaign?

[junior kestrel]

You're weird and gangly.

[naive turret]

Noob Combo is your best friend, don't swap to the Gauss on Coastal Highway, and turn Tilt on if you can because it'll actually make you more resistent to plasma.

[calm fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572921337782337566/1211114454142681118/noping.png?ex=65ed053b&is=65da903b&hm=127c1f5a619a9cb041d895fc8b72e2582f18b58934fcc2c232dda28837a796a2&

[junior kestrel]

Dingdingding we have a winner

[ocean herald]

i could see a mission where you track and take out a high level insurrectionist, but a game built around fighting/killing regular humans as the primary enemy type would not feel like halo

[trim saddle]

Well they're human and as they stated, they're weird and gangly so 🤷 we all are.

[cedar turret]

No, I'm weird and stout

[junior kestrel]

Ig. I would like it in select missions.

[misty marsh]

Why do so many people want a game abt killing humans so bad

[naive turret]

I mean not personally no, I'm here to fight the Covenant since they have distinct and interesting design with a lot of variety.

[junior kestrel]

Actually for that matter I want an anthology halo game. Taking place accross the setting with different mission chains.
Iike battlefield 1's war stories.

[trim saddle]

That seems to be the trend in my choices for romantics. I do indeed have a type lol

[muted rose]

I think a metro exodus approach to halo would be cool but that’s just me

[junior kestrel]

Fair ig.

[odd anchor]

Literally

😭😭😭 like whyyy

[junior kestrel]

... have you seen human history?

[odd anchor]

Bruh

[trim saddle]

It's human nature 🤷

[naive turret]

It's like, you gone up against the Flood Hogs in H2 or the Tank, they're not fun to fight against in PvE lol

[misty marsh]

why would i want non fiction in my fiction game

[odd anchor]

Killing alien is way more fun :3

[junior kestrel]

By that logic pvp shouldn't be in halo.

[trim saddle]

The game you can turn off or reset.

[junior kestrel]

Cause why would you wanna kill humans?

[naive turret]

PvP is other players, with human error and match balancing.

[junior kestrel]

Cause non fiction is already in your fiction game.

[trim saddle]

Pixels are fun to manipulate on a screen.

[ocean herald]

one of the primary themes in halo is ALL of humanity coming together to fight a common enemy, even if the origins of the Spartan program were to fight human enemies. it would be a huge tonal shift to fight humans

not saying it couldn't be done, it's just a MAJOR change

[junior kestrel]

"Match balancing" yeah. Not in 15 years.

[floral pollen]

Spartan Wargames and field combat are not the same

[junior kestrel]

You underestimate how fun spartan pve could be.

[misty marsh]

man if i wanted to just kill other humans id play cod or farcry. A whole halo game completely centered around it would be buns

[junior kestrel]

Not whole game just a mission or two.

[odd anchor]

My same thoughts 😭

[gaunt lance]

check your map if you get lost, be sure to take lots of cover, don’t underestimate a grunt, don’t forget about grenades & plasma pistols, either kill all the covenant you see or run past them

[odd anchor]

Ok that's not too bad

[hasty zinc]

would be way too out of place for a Halo game IMO

[junior kestrel]

That's funny you say that considering what has been in the series.

[hasty zinc]

wat

[naive turret]

Also we should make the distinction, enemy Spartans would comprise the best option since that'd basically be MP bots
But I'm not fussed about that in a Narrative context. And I don't wanna fight Marines or Insurrectionists that are shieldless bipeds with no variety in silhouette composition and weapons with such high projectile velocity.

[void wharf]

Halo coming to playstation!!

Also Nintendo Switch

[junior kestrel]

Well. Playable elites, the weird armour abilites and gear. Silly stuff, the fact that spartans were made specifically abd were first activated to fight the insurrection.

[floral pollen]

Firefight exists
And I like Firefight

If you mean like players vs Spartan/human AI enemies, then I don't agree as much
Like, in Infinite there's combat training bots with Spartan armor
But otherwise I don't really like the idea

[naive turret]

Fighting the Flood controlled Warthog and Scorpion in H2 is not fun. Fighting the Heretic Elites with human weapons in Reach is not fun.

[ocean herald]

i guess they introduced those spartans that joined the banished (but i refuse to learn more)

[cedar turret]

Would make a good fan game, with the player being an insurrectionist trying to avoid a team of spartans

[misty marsh]

but that would involve watering down the insurrectionists and would never be able to get everything important about the insurrectionist in without having more missions which circles back to the fact people dont really want a game with humans as the primary enemy

[junior kestrel]

They would need a proper biped ai system for them.

[hasty zinc]

Insurrectionist: Isolation

[junior kestrel]

Did it take one whole game to get the covenant in depth? Or did we wait until the second game to explore them?

It's been 25 years. And only 15 years ago did we see them on screen in a game.

[cedar turret]

Throw in a mechanic where you rally other freedom fighters to stand against the spartans while you sneak away

[junior kestrel]

Funny.

[junior kestrel]

... sending other people ahead of you to die sounds pretty dirty to me.

[naive turret]

Like, they're gonna die in one headshot. It's grunts with more abusive weapon options.

[cedar turret]

turn off the ping please, and yes that is the point

[junior kestrel]

Sorry

[misty marsh]

if people cant even be happy with one game about fighting against humans, what makes you think more will be a good idea

[obsidian wyvern]

dont neeed it

[junior kestrel]

I'd be happy to kill terrorists.

[worldly sedge]

RIP Bot Bootcamp

[meager linden]

Good early morning people of Halo

[cedar turret]

Some kind of rhythm game where you choose the right words of the speech to buy yourself an extra ten minutes to run.

[junior kestrel]

The URF are stinky.

[cedar turret]

Sounds fun.

[worldly sedge]

I remember when Bot Bootcamp was a playlist

[junior kestrel]

Yeah

I might get campaign evolved if it had firefight.

[meager linden]

It just Campaign, no MP

[naive turret]

I think that's why they specified 'if'

Firefight would be neat. Something to get a little more out of the game. But it is what it is.

[meager linden]

I didn't saw it
Just woke up tho

[junior kestrel]

Firefight isn't traditional mp.

[naive turret]

One day we'll get FF with a points system, map interactables and dynamic events. 😔

[obsidian wyvern]

hopium

[misty marsh]

How to achieve this timeline

[worldly sedge]

Yeah I honestly like Firefight/PVE modes more than PVP these days

Sure I can cook some newbs in MP, but I don’t want to ruin anybody’s fun because of my skill gap

[misty marsh]

Pve is just generally more enjoyable, smth abt pvp stresses me out and makes me more self conscious of my skill

[junior kestrel]

I still want warzone to be revived. Maybe call it super btb

[misty marsh]

Warzone was so peak 🙏🙏🙏

[brave prairie]

PvE also more relaxing when I game. I’m no longer the pro I used to be. I can no longer dominate and relax during pvp

[obsidian wyvern]

h8 what was the point that they had to pass in steins gate

ive been tryna think of it for the past 4 minutes and the term doesnt come to mind

[naive turret]

The Attractor Field?

[obsidian wyvern]

no there was like the numbers and i think they had to pass 1

there was a term for it no

[naive turret]

Something like that, the concept that further divergent worldlines are harder to reach do to the extremity of actions you need to take

[junior kestrel]

Cut out the bad bits like the microtransactions being tied to it.

Throw in simply unit classes like

Assault: ar, magnum with mancanon equipment

Engineer: smg rocket launcher, repair kit

Support: lmg, magnum and supply kit

Recon: sniper, magnum

[junior kestrel]

Or just have power weapons and vehicles as map spawns.

[naive turret]

Doctor Who has something similar, but it's more rigid. 'Fixed Points' in time that can't be changed.
When in reality they should be able to, it's just really bad stuff would happen if you did

[junior kestrel]

Gavity star...

Gravfield

[naive turret]

That's something I don't think any time travel really gets right. Every millisecond there's countless different choices you can make, within the limit of your influence.
Times that by every living organism that can excercise choice, then natural phenomena, then another pico-second passes and you have another countless spring of branches.

[junior kestrel]

We really need a expanded sandbox. With similar but different options within the same field.

[naive turret]

The Divergence Meter maybe?

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah but there was a term for crossing it

guess i just gotta rewatch the entire show

[final jasper]

Hola

[naive turret]

Halo

[final jasper]

Porque no se pueden subir imágenes..?

[junior kestrel]

I Really want halo to be more... doomey.

Brutality. Gore. All that. I wanna turn the top of an elite's head into a cavity with the shotgun

[meager linden]

You have Doom for it

[naive turret]

Unfortunately we're only really equipped to moderate in English in here, you can check out #español for other Spanish speakers

[junior kestrel]

Okay. But I want that level of violence in halo

[naive turret]

Have you tried that CE mod that adds gibs and dismemberment

[junior kestrel]

Brutal halo. It's great.

[naive turret]

It only solidified my not wanting it tbh, it's neat but you lose a lot of the charm without silly ragdolls etc.

I like the Elite waving his arms as he goes flying not turning into a purple mist

[junior kestrel]

Okay. But what if the ragdoll turned to purple mist after smashing unto a wall.

[naive turret]

Then you lose futher ragdolls from chain reactions and Marines don't come over and shoot / taunt it
So we're still sacrificing personality for gore

[misty marsh]

Grunt bday skull is pretty gory and violent

[junior kestrel]

Plus it can probably be handled with some peramiters set up so they don't gib on every explosion.

Frag grenades aren't just explosions yk

[obsidian wyvern]

boom

[junior kestrel]

They send shrapnel.

So you could make it only certain explosions do gibbing

Plus once an elite is dead the marines could shoot him up INTO gibs

Insert robocop nananananananna

[solemn rose]

anyone with master chief collection want to play through the games together?

[calm fiber]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[naive turret]

Granted, the Flood should have dismemberment / gibs like they did in H3. But I also don't want the Flood back so 😛

[junior kestrel]

And 2

Also how dare you?

[naive turret]

They suck to fight, and are culprits of the worst levels from the best games. wym.

[junior kestrel]

Flood are great.

Just select flood forms suck.

Rocket and shotgun flood.

[naive turret]

*select flood forms suck more than others.

[junior kestrel]

By 3, the flood had been perfected. Just needed to be a little more durable.

[misty marsh]

Floods are great in concept, hell when it actually comes to fighting them

H3 flood were the only tolerable ones

[junior kestrel]

And a littke more thoughtful.

[amber mirage]

I actually preferred CE flood the most

[misty marsh]

CE flood can absolutely go flip themselves

[amber mirage]

Thought they were the most boring in 3

[junior kestrel]

... okay weird but you do you.

[jade sleet]

I started playing halo mcc on heroic and it’s so challenging. I don’t know if I like it. I prefer normal

Those red elites hit so hard

[misty marsh]

I think they aged me the most

[junior kestrel]

Everyone has their own difficulty.

[junior kestrel]

Majors.

[misty marsh]

Have u played against reach elites yet

[junior kestrel]

I think the flood just need one or two more itterations to be their best selves.

[jade sleet]

I can’t imagine the Cortana level on halo 3 on heroic sounds like a nightmare

[bright patrol]

Dude the CEmake is rated Pegi 18

The flood are finna be the best like ever

[junior kestrel]

Doomguy grunt

[bright patrol]

What

[junior kestrel]

I hope that one elite has fully modeled organs.

[misty marsh]

It's not as bad as it could've been if cortana was a h1 or 2 mission. 3 is the easiest legendary and the flood are pretty nerfed in comparison too

[bright patrol]

Is your pfp sentinel prime

[naive turret]

Weird since a game can't be rated if it hasn't been sent for certification. Idk why that sticker is on there.

[junior kestrel]

No.

[misty marsh]

I don't disagree. I wanted to see more of the pure forms tbh but I'm also very a-okay with not having the flood re enter the story again

[ocean herald]

I hope the new flood are a bit smarter than the og ai

[junior kestrel]

I'm glad juggernauts were cut from 2.

[bright patrol]

Maybe it has been sent for clarification? It's on the store and labeled as that

[naive turret]

Yeah but the game's likely a year out from shipping so that doesn't make sense to me lol

[junior kestrel]

I actually have a halo 4 rewrite that intergrates them pretty well.

Flashback missions where you're playing the didact.

[naive turret]

If the underlying code is largely Reach, then presumably they're pulling from H3 as a nearest neighbour

Or ODST I guess since they were updated for FF

[bright patrol]

Playing as rhe didact is insane 😭

[junior kestrel]

In the rewrite he's human. Like bungie intended.

[bright patrol]

His name isnt still didact is it

[junior kestrel]

We're not doing the debate more.

[ocean herald]

I can’t even remember what they were like in h3

I need a full series play through sometime soon

[naive turret]

Dynamic infections would be the biggest change, and being able to use vehicles. So Two-Betrayals benefits from that.

[junior kestrel]

Hell if I know. Frank didn't give him a normal name in the terminals tor halo 3.

[mighty leaf]

The hardest thing you can do in halo is LASO in halo CE: infantry

[junior kestrel]

Floos banahees would be evil.

[rich jolt]

choose wisely Halo 3 odst or Reach

[mighty leaf]

Reach

[junior kestrel]

What exactly am I choosing here? 3.

[rich jolt]

great choice

[misty marsh]

I'm not 😔 they looked cool, I would've welcomed the suffering

[meager linden]

None of them

[junior kestrel]

Would have not been a good fight in 2.

[misty marsh]

3 easily

[junior kestrel]

3 ost

[naive turret]

https://tenor.com/view/indiana-jones-last-crusade-chosen-wisely-gif-13257298

[junior kestrel]

Last crusade.

Wish crystal skull never came out.

[naive turret]

Was gonna say it should've been the last crusade lol

[junior kestrel]

Much like halo 3. But microshaft gotta microsoft.

[candid solar]

Japanese Soldier in 1963

[misty marsh]

I just found them a bit flat in ce and two with only having the combat and infection forms to deal with. Part of why 3 is my favourite includes the variation of flood types, makes them more interesting to fight. Otherwise to me it's kinda like a covenant without hunters yk?

[junior kestrel]

Irrelevant. It's for cool drama and themes.

[junior kestrel]

I kinda agree.

Especially given there was only 2 combat forms until h2.

[candid solar]

Yeah themes that are mid as hell

[tropic kiln]

debatable... halo has a lot of potential

[candid solar]

And bait too, tbh. It's either bait or something more base I can't say here.

[naive turret]

I'd rather not be reminded the H2 Flood exist.

[misty marsh]

Yeah exactly. I get lore wise with how the gravemind works why it was primarily combat but like yk, a little smth extra like the juggernauts would've been nice

[naive turret]

'Hey they can use a Scorpion isn't that co-' 💥

[junior kestrel]

Ad hominem.

[candid solar]

Boo womp.

[junior kestrel]

It wasn't bait.

[candid solar]

Nah, at this point it's bait.

[junior kestrel]

They coulda made jackal flood. They have a normal nervous system.

[ocean herald]

Was most of the flood “lore” fleshed out when CE released? I feel like they could add little details that hint at the grave mind or idk do something new that makes the flood more than just annoying lol (super vague ik)

[junior kestrel]

Who's the one still talking about it as an argument?

Don't put words in my mouth.

[junior kestrel]

No that would come about with 2, 3 and books.

[naive turret]

I imagine the Library's gonna have biomass buildup since that was a factor in H2 / 3.
They showed off the Blightlands biome in the UE5 reveal so that stuff has to go somewhere.

Oh and in Keyes, ofc. Maybe the Maw.

[junior kestrel]

It'd be great if the biomass build up was greater and greater as you delved deeper.

[hasty zinc]

they were in Halo wars

[misty marsh]

I think in one of the books they mention them being too frail to be combat forms so them and grunts are used as the cores of the carrier forms instead

[fierce tundra]

What are the speculations of the “newest” Halo release?

[naive turret]

Thank you Aegis I hate it.

[misty marsh]

This looks like smth out of plants v zombies

[junior kestrel]

Oh that's cool actually. Wish they were in the first person games. Would make for great fodder.

And also grunts being turned into carrier forms.

[junior kestrel]

Me too. Can't wait to dismember it.

[hasty zinc]

on my 12th reset for shiny fossil

[junior kestrel]

I kinda want a covenant squad shooter.

[fierce tundra]

What’s with the hate in this chat.

[normal owl]

Sad about Lions Did that to ourselves.

but happy about Chiefs

[junior kestrel]

What you talking abt?

[misty marsh]

I don't keep up with nfl, what are the bengals up to these days?

[fierce tundra]

I may be sensing it wrong as I just joined the chat but Im feeling a lot of anger.

[hasty zinc]

can't wait for the ravens to let me down again

[ocean herald]

My fantasy team can’t catch a break lol. I have Goff and Montgomery 🥲

[normal owl]

They had a heartbreaker today. Feel bad for them.

[misty marsh]

Man when don't we atp 😔

[normal owl]

My man! I respect the faith though.

[junior kestrel]

...

[ocean herald]

I’m a Titans fan and at this rate I just want us to lose for a second year with the #1 pick

[fierce tundra]

Don’t mind me. Didn’t realize this was about other stuff other than Halo.

[ocean herald]

This is a fairly normal level of anger

[normal owl]

They bounced back with Lamar back, but they need that swagger back. I feel like this season de-clawed their rep a little bit so far.

back

[hasty zinc]

I think they're what 2nd in AFC north?

it won't be long before it all goes downhill

[junior kestrel]

343 has made a lot of mistakes over their tenure on halo.

But so had bungie.

[fierce tundra]

Don’t get me started on 343z

[normal owl]

I feel like that Bills game turned a weird corner for them. Hard to describe but you know what I mean?

[fierce tundra]

The ONLY reason why I play Halo is because I love Halo.

[hasty zinc]

I get you, but time will tell

[junior kestrel]

Deleting dual weilding, armour abilities, covenant english (joke), needler in halo 3 not being dual weildable, halo 2 brute ai, weapon animations loosing character after ce, rocket/shotgun flood.

[ocean herald]

When you inherit the golden child of an entire brand you’re gonna upset people no matter what. Any ip that runs this long has to change and unfortunately leave some people behind. That’s not an excuse for some of the shortcomings we’ve seen at launch for some of the games

[fierce tundra]

343 Has neglected the lore and ruined what was Master Chief and Cortana

[junior kestrel]

some

Funny way of saying most.

Mcc, 5 and infinite, 3 out of 5 with inadequate launches.

And cea is just complete rubbish.

[bright patrol]

No ur right, it's halo we are full of anger

[meager linden]

It's time return to work
I love the early morning vibes of day

[junior kestrel]

I think 343's biggest mistake was building off reach and not 3.

[normal owl]

I think my biggest mistake was eating pizza every day this weekend.

[steady jolt]

That's actually sounds good

[ocean herald]

Speaking of football Seattle is running over Washington 😮

[misty marsh]

Not a mistake

[normal owl]

It does sound good
It did taste good
It does not feel good lol

[steady jolt]

I'm full of chicken tikka kebab and lots of pakora

[fierce tundra]

The sad thing is is that 343 can release whatever slip they want involving Master Chief and Cortana and I will buy it no matter what as I love the IP that is Halo.

[normal owl]

Bodes well for us next weekend

[misty marsh]

Just means you need to keep eating pizza to build your tolerance

[ocean herald]

I’m 1 year away from 30 and I think the last 2 years have finally taught me I can NOT eat whatever I want anymore lol

There’s a denial period 100% where you try and pretend like nothing’s changed 🤣

[normal owl]

Mm that sounds excellent

[cedar turret]

That is what my grandmother told me about arsenic

[junior kestrel]

I regret playing spartan assault and spartan strike

Why didn't 343 make more spinoffs?

"They never stuck" isn't what I'd call satisfactory

[misty marsh]

How's that tolerance going for her

[junior kestrel]

I'm 23 next month

[steady jolt]

Spartan games were fun, cool to play Halo on the way to work in the morning

[ocean herald]

You guys just need to worry about the packers pretty much

[junior kestrel]

On steam*

[cedar turret]

Pretty sure she is imune now

[junior kestrel]

I played them on steam

[steady jolt]

Wish they'd done a sequel to Strike, but with the company that made them going to VR that kinda killed it

[junior kestrel]

... they coulda made halo vr games tho.

Why has there still been no vr game. Not a demo. Full game.

[misty marsh]

I have no idea how useful arsenic immunity will be to me in the future but this is very handy to know in case for no particular reason. W grandma

[steady jolt]

They tested the water with VR, but nobody really wants it tbh

[ocean herald]

Vr is a hard sell sadly

[misty marsh]

343 guilty spark in VR should come with post mission counselling thanks

[ocean herald]

As someone who bought ps vr 2

[opaque olive]

Hello Spartans

[junior kestrel]

I want it.

[steady jolt]

It's fun for like 20 minutes and then the gimmick wears off

[odd anchor]

Man

[junior kestrel]

How do you think cortana is gonna go?

[odd anchor]

My sore throat is getting worst 😫

[ocean herald]

Yeah it’s just tough to play more than 30 mins to an hour

[junior kestrel]

Sorry dude.

[misty marsh]

Cortanas fine man, it's not even a top 5 worst missions

[cedar turret]

If you're willing to buy 70 million copies of the game and the same number of headsets they'll probably make the game.

[candid solar]

And you didn't even share with me?

[junior kestrel]

If only the helmet wasn't so front heavy.

[steady jolt]

I can fax you some leftovers

[junior kestrel]

This goes for most vr headsets

Totally out of balance.

Would be better as a full surrounding helmet.

Or a counter weight.

[misty marsh]

The movement mechanics would personally kill the vr experience too imo

[junior kestrel]

Halo ce would be fine.

[junior kestrel]

2 and 3 also.

[misty marsh]

I can't remember the last time I even jumped irl