general-chat

[floral pollen]

its a learning curve but its really good if you know how to use it

[cedar turret]

slide rule?

[floral pollen]

Mantis is easy, the Banished vehicles feel like paper to me

There's 3 ways but the easiest is right in front of the snipe spawn, there's a hole there

[obsidian wyvern]

a good team would have that ghost protect rocks

[lapis ivy]

When I was playing FF koth there were gruntpocalyse times i was having a blast with smacking grunts in overkills gruntpocalyse is easy

[floral pollen]

I get Naires in Gruntpocalypse a lot

[lapis ivy]

Sometimes you get overkills killtacular and killianairs

Grunts are hilarious

[floral pollen]

Comms grunt is my favorite Halo character besides Chief and Jorge

[lapis ivy]

That's not the announcer grunt from halo 5?

Or the banished communication propaganda tower grunt?

That one is hilarious

[floral pollen]

the propaganda grunt

[obsidian wyvern]

it's called YouSeeBIGGIRL/T:T right

I still don't understand why sawano chose that name for the song lol

[candid solar]

Look at this GOOBER

They're so DUMB

[fickle drift]

It might be a reference to Ymir, tbf. Although people know it moreso for that scene.

[obsidian wyvern]

I thought maybe Annie but it was released in S2 I think

[fickle drift]

Yeah S2 ost.

[merry stirrup]

I got spurs, that jingle, jangle, jingle

[livid magnet]

heyaa

how are ya all

[solemn lance]

hi

[wanton kestrel]

🐀

[livid magnet]

how are ya doin Spartann

[livid magnet]

helloo

[solemn lance]

good

[elfin glacier]

Being incinerated by tge sun

[obsidian wyvern]

how did you want me to fight him

[elfin glacier]

Carefully

[hybrid dragon]

sensuall.

[cedar turret]

I had an apartment on the sun, but the rent was murder.

[polar orbit]

How is everyone's day going?

[obsidian wyvern]

dms

[cedar turret]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gross-disgust-gif-13789077

[void magnet]

When was the last time the regular snipers playlist was in the game? Feels like 3 weeks at least

[obsidian wyvern]

3 months maybe

[cedar turret]

just move on

[hidden badger]

Snipers are the only fun thing in halo

[candid solar]

Typical furry belief smh

[pulsar cobalt]

Anyone feel like mirage neck needs to be lifted abit like helmets fit to far down

[obsidian wyvern]

yess

[urban anchor]

What about ctf?

[obsidian wyvern]

been using mirage recently since they made that blue/white rak coating cross core but all the helmets sit too low

[hidden badger]

Yea ctf IS Pretty fun ig

[pulsar cobalt]

Yeah raising it abit would be amazing

Hopefully 343 sorts this out for mirage

[hybrid dragon]

gooner

[left bone]

gooner? you mean those bad guys who work for the villains?

those weird henchmen dudes?

[hybrid dragon]

yes

im a gooba

[hybrid dragon]

u wanna hop on halo?

[compact flax]

[restive plover]

https://tenor.com/view/chewing-gum-gif-22348185

[onyx saffron]

hello everyone, does anyone have any idea why mcc keeps signing me out and booting me to the main menu?

[analog knot]

if you post in #1075989764026675210 I can respond with a potential fix (usually its XBL login conflicts)

[onyx saffron]

thank you, posted

mcc is just an abomination lmao

just wanna play some skycastle:(

I've deleted XBL login keys in cred manager if that's ur solution

[winter flame]

the servers were playing up yesterday, might be the same today

[topaz heron]

lol

[frosty siren]

My wrist hurts

[hybrid dragon]

5Blamite

[robust spear]

What’s its name ???

[candid solar]

Unknown goober Trenchbird found on the internet in her terminal internet addiction's constant myopic browsing sessions.

[halcyon knoll]

When can we expect crossover spartan skins? I wanna play as Dwayne Johnson

[candid solar]

Hopefully never.

[halcyon knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[naive inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/sportsmanias-animated-emojis-st-patricks-day-st-pattys-day-happy-st-patricks-day-gif-25035870

[meager linden]

Good morning spartans

[hot plover]

@dreamy stirrup Played one round of Odd ball, won, some one quit on the second round and it ended in a tie.

[candid solar]

It's weird how often I've seen people with this pfp get banned for saying awful things.

[fickle drift]

You have to kill the banshees too

[candid solar]

^

You have to make up for Emile's ridiculous incompetence.

[fickle drift]

Doesn’t matter if you destroy the phantom with a rocket launcher or the target designator, both the phantom and banshees need to be killed before the next cutscene

Restart previous checkpoint?

No they just fly around the area until destroyed

Hmm

[candid solar]

Classic Bungie

[fickle drift]

Restart from the checkpoint idk

You definitely haven’t missed any

The only thing you can miss out on in that part of the level is skipping enemy spawns

[fresh turtle]

[gentle bronze]

Hey halo people

Wsg?

[fickle drift]

https://fxtwitter.com/Sidera__/status/1787603850188190038

[remote crane]

hi everyoneeee

[fickle drift]

Hi!

[fresh turtle]

hello yalls!

[lucid prism]

People say fallout 4 looks dated? I'm playing it on my series s and it looks amazing

Can't imagine how it looks on series x or ultra settings on PC

People have so wild expectations

[alpine fog]

Like Fallout 4.

Interior lighting bothers me too much.

[hard crane]

I think it helps that it just got a "next gen" update

[lucid prism]

Maybe some textures don't look that worn put for being the apocalypse but besides that I think it looks great

[gentle bronze]

Hi

[verbal flicker]

guys i've a question

does getting banned from multiplayer not allows to play campaign?

like i can launch a mission but the player doesn't move i mean the mouse doesn't work

[stray tartan]

Im watching Fall Of Reach

[true tendon]

Hi

[stray tartan]

Man spartan iis had it rough

☹️

[latent sequoia]

I’d say the 3s had it rougher

Considering they were the throwaway spartans

[graceful inlet]

Good Morning Spartans!
(And Marines)
Reporting for duty!

[rare cedar]

Good evening, Spartans

[steady jolt]

Morning

[stray tartan]

@rare cedar halo 2 is the best halo

Dont @ me

[rare cedar]

Tagging a mod breaks the rules

Saying H2 is the best Halo?

[obsidian wyvern]

so true

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kuiil-have-spoken-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-15566834

@stray tartan

[winter flame]

Halo 2 is the best Halo

...to uninstall

[steady jolt]

[latent sequoia]

Halo 2 is only good because of arbiters story

Without it its an empty shell to me

[fickle drift]

depends on what you judge things by. to me, the campaign is the best, but the multiplayer I haven’t really dabbled in a whole lot outside of H2A/MCC’s remastered version of it, but it’s a solid halo title on it’s own

my favorite campaign is a three way tie between ODST, Reach & 2 tbh, but that isn’t to say the other games don’t have well crafted campaigns as well

[rare cedar]

This but summed up

[winter flame]

Halo 2 is only good because without Halo 2, we wouldn't have Halo 3

3's the GOAT amirite boys

[last fractal]

Halo 2 was unfinished lmao

[hard crane]

Where's the Halo Infinite part where it's a picture of a cashier in a clothing store asking you how can she help you today

[obsidian wyvern]

TRUE

this is so tempting lol

also if youre here stckr, you may have got a new badge but i cant tell if it shows your weekly streak

[steady jolt]

I do!

My sub length badge has gone though

[obsidian wyvern]

shame it doesnt show how long your streak was

[winter flame]

i got the badge 😄

[steady jolt]

Wait, it's back

[obsidian wyvern]

idk why mine is only at 2

[winter flame]

i just did it until it became 1000 every however many weeks and let it reset cause i aint for that kind of commitment

[obsidian wyvern]

should be at least 4 or smthn, a lot of my live count was on my dads account though

[winter flame]

just be happy you have the badge

[obsidian wyvern]

streaks are the only reason i keep going, got to like 40 weeks on xbox before they broke my app

[rare cedar]

yay

another badge

[steady jolt]

I was mostly playing on friends accounts before I bought my own Xbox, or my sub length would have been longer 😢

[obsidian wyvern]

i do nothing with ms rewards now because its honestly too hard but i keep this streak going

[rare cedar]

[obsidian wyvern]

16 is still huge

[steady jolt]

Funnily enough, I've started doing more with rewards recently since the daily achievements and play for 15 minutes came in

[obsidian wyvern]

thats a thing? the play 15 mins?

[rare cedar]

I don't get the mobile app stream anymore. I got it 2 weeks ago for a week, then it went away again

[steady jolt]

Play 15 minutes on console and on PC, I just do console

[obsidian wyvern]

is that the one that gives you 10 and 20

[steady jolt]

yeah

[winter flame]

im considering doing the 250 MS points by playing a round of Firefight 5 days a week. Get 250 spartan points each day as well

[obsidian wyvern]

i took the 250 for pc games for granted 😔

they kept it for too long tbf, that was a great payout

[winter flame]

i said it wouldnt last forever lol

[obsidian wyvern]

the one where you have to play on consoles 5 times a week? always breaks for me lol

its been out for like 5 weeks i think, only worked once for me

[winter flame]

i think what Xbox considers a "day" is weird

[obsidian wyvern]

i get the 10 points for playing on console, but it wont progress the weekly one a lot of the time

[winter flame]

if it works it would be nice cause i got a huge backlog of games to play through on my xbox

and i pretty much always play through a game in a week or something

[stray tartan]

Ngl i forgot about microsoft rewards

I used to use it for free gold memberships

[last fractal]

Microsoft’s should buy helldivers

[fickle drift]

Getting these 50 games feels longer and more painful the more I play

[obsidian wyvern]

50?

[normal owl]

If an avg match is 15 min + avg 3 min loading etc., then 50 matches = 15 hrs IRL, holy crap.

I wish work was from 10:00a to 4:00p with a siesta in the middle. There is no better feeling than waking up on a holiday, realizing it's too early, and going back to bed.

I guess what I'm saying is that I wish I was retired lol

[meager linden]

And spends an entire life playing Halo

[fickle drift]

The 50 to start playing ranked

[obsidian wyvern]

oh

[meager linden]

If only I can play Halo Reach campaign with my localisation, because I bad knows English

[obsidian wyvern]

play husky raid, just speedrun games

[meager linden]

Pretty easy

[fickle drift]

The modes I want to play have really long queues or are not in rotation and killionaire simulator gets boring fast

[fickle drift]

Right

[obsidian wyvern]

but you're playing offline?

[fickle drift]

It’s just painful when quick play is fast but I feel like screaming out “pick up the flag”

[obsidian wyvern]

and poa was pretty easy lol

you can't be rubber banding if you're playing offline

unless you're playing coop

right

[fickle drift]

Legendary has improved ai awareness and accuracy iirc

[obsidian wyvern]

are u not playing on normal

if you're on normal, why have you only got a plasma pistol

there's plenty of weapons in that mission

I'm gonna run through this rn to see what's so difficult, I can't remember it being that hard

I've found rockets right at the start of the mission

the first building u see next to the mongooses

[fickle drift]

@obsidian wyvern husky raid is the fastest for xp yeah?

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah

[fickle drift]

Cool

Do you not check before going on the mongooses? There’s DMR ammo and rockets in there, I thought it was common knowledge to check to get it for hunters

[obsidian wyvern]

there's another 2 in the building

[fickle drift]

You don’t need power weapons

Just take out the gunner and charge the plasma pistol

Board and destroy

Yes, in matchmaking too

[obsidian wyvern]

I mean I didn't even use my rockets to kill the wraith just now, used a plasma lol

[fickle drift]

It’s not, on normal it’s easier

I don’t even kill the wraith nowadays, I just skip it lol

[obsidian wyvern]

there's a weapon cache in the buildings u see with the first wraith

[fickle drift]

You can, good trick for par times

Why am I getting hero rank players in husky raid lol

[soft kiln]

halo ce pistol
(sorry,this was a low hanging fruit)

[fickle drift]

You can skip the Hunter fight if I’m not mistaken

[candid solar]

Shoot them in the back.

[fickle drift]

Yeah you don’t get a checkpoint for it but at that point you wouldn’t really be at risk of dying

[obsidian wyvern]

k i got to here in however long it took, didnt need to use the rockets until the hunters so you should be fine

[candid solar]

Utilize mobility options, dodge melee.

[fickle drift]

In fact you can save your rockets for the elites in the next area

Or if you want to go the extra mile for the zealots blocking the Mac cannon

[cedar turret]

you can skip the hunters, pretty easily

save the rockets/needle rifle ammo for the last ff section

[fickle drift]

Isn’t there DMR ammo during the pad fight? Or is that only when you go to the cannon

[calm fiber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/572921337782337566/1211114454142681118/noping.png?ex=65ed053b&is=65da903b&hm=127c1f5a619a9cb041d895fc8b72e2582f18b58934fcc2c232dda28837a796a2&

[candid solar]

Yes

[fickle drift]

You mean the bloom?

[candid solar]

[cedar turret]

Rockets for the chieftans, needle rifle for the brutes, pop the hidden dmr for everything else. Use the bubble shield for health regain.

[obsidian wyvern]

it's the bloom

anyway I'm back, might as well finish it

[calm fiber]

Please do not tag Admins or Moderators unless immediate action is needed. If you see anything that does not abide by our rules and guidelines, please tag a Moderator to bring it to their attention.

[obsidian wyvern]

I have a drop shield, found it after the drones

[cedar turret]

Turn off the @

[fickle drift]

Probably because on discord more people prefer to be pinged in replies than not

There totally should be a toggle for it though

[obsidian wyvern]

there is a golden moa at the launch pad this week whilst we're here

[fickle drift]

I just do the two on lone wolf and fly to the one near the turrets on PoA

[obsidian wyvern]

is this your first run of reach amzro

oh.

game of luck

alright that's enough reach for me for 1 year

[normal owl]

Reminder about the July 29 closure of the 360 store. If you want any non-backwards compatible items, consider shopping between now and then.

Also, reading a few articles about it, please be aware that just because a game is listed on one of the internet's non-BC lists is not the final word on playing that title as it may have received a separate XB1 release, so be sure to check.

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/help/xbox-360/store/xbox-360-marketplace-update#:~:text=The Xbox 360 Store and,retired on July 29%2C 2024

[last fractal]

End of the greatest generation of console

[normal owl]

So many great memories. And so many digital purchases made on blind trust in the product description because of insufficient product visuals lol.

[winter flame]

nah you secretly love reach and jumped on an excuse to play it

wanna try to do Lone Wolf to 100,000k on Heroic difficulty?

I wish they would revert the 360 home dashboard back to NXE now that the metro dash is completely barren

[hasty zinc]

morning everyone

[obsidian wyvern]

bet

[fickle drift]

Good morning.

[drifting sigil]

Hey guys anyone online right now

Theres 30k online according to server lol

[stoic pulsar]

Lol

[obsidian wyvern]

not a single person

[meager linden]

At least I single in real life lol

Dead chat

[worldly badger]

Hello

[steady jolt]

Could always start a conversation

Like this

https://www.ign.com/articles/microsoft-closes-redfall-developer-arkane-austin-hifi-rush-developer-tango-gameworks-and-more-in-devastating-cuts-at-bethesda

which absolutely sucks

[obsidian wyvern]

woah

[worldly badger]

Microsoft is closing Redfall developer Arkane Austin, Hi-Fi Rush developer Tango Gameworks, and Alpha Dog Studios

I just saw that too lol

[worldly sedge]

Rip

[worldly badger]

wow Hi fi rush didnt deserve that

[worldly sedge]

At least Tango made a banger before they went out

[obsidian wyvern]

i mean i can see the redfall thing (not saying im happy about it) but the hifi rush devs??

[worldly sedge]

I also didn’t like TEW it was janky

[steady jolt]

Didn't Hi-Fi Rush just go to PSN as well?

[worldly sedge]

Yeah

[pulsar cobalt]

it did yeah

[obsidian wyvern]

yea

[worldly badger]

Redfall was a mess though

[steady jolt]

Unbelievable

[worldly sedge]

Phil Spencer what are you doing!

[obsidian wyvern]

thats actually nuts wtf

[worldly sedge]

Rip Arkane Studios, didn’t finish Dishonored 2

[worldly badger]

I think its Arkane Austin not the main Arkane studios

or am I wrong

[steady jolt]

Specifically mentions Austin

[vapid siren]

correct

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah

[steady jolt]

Lyon is safe for now I guess

[vapid siren]

the main arcane is in France

I'm pretty miffed about Tango

Drops a fat banger of a game that won awards and had massive push for crossplat, and as soon as the game goes out on playstation its entire studio is nuked

[worldly badger]

Hi fi rush was maybe microsofts best new IP to come out recently

[vapid siren]

it was an overall slam dunk critically

iirc it missed sales goals tho

[steady jolt]

:/

[vapid siren]

everyone loved it, but nobody bought it

[worldly badger]

maybe sales goals were too high it was a gamepass game

[vapid siren]

pretty sure GP is factored in

even then they would rather you buy GP as subs last longer and get people into more ecosystems

[worldly badger]

it released the same day they announced it

[vapid siren]

yeah

so did Apex

[worldly badger]

and was a surprise game and people were hyped and downloaded it

[vapid siren]

just like Apex

[worldly badger]

ya but its a niche rhythm game not a battle royal like apex

[vapid siren]

ik

[obsidian wyvern]

i dont get the apex link

[vapid siren]

my point is more we cant exactly blame the marketing timeline to release. the game was an instant smash hit it just fell short commercially

[vapid siren]

that game came out of nowhere and took things by storm

RKO'd everyone into playing it

[worldly badger]

Redfall on the otherhand was a major release that fell short of all expectations

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah but apex was f2p and is a mp game

[vapid siren]

Hi-Fi as much as i love it... i mean i aint playing it rn

[vapid siren]

just have gamepass 5head

everythings "free" with that

[obsidian wyvern]

i get what youre saying but idk it makes more sense as to why apex is as big as it is to me

[worldly badger]

its free because you are paying a monthly fee

[vapid siren]

ik

[obsidian wyvern]

sucks anyway 😔

[vapid siren]

[obsidian wyvern]

both the game and this situation lol

[worldly badger]

Apex wasnt that big on release I feel it took multiple seasons to get it rolling

[pulsar cobalt]

Yeah it took awhile to get big

[obsidian wyvern]

apex was huge on release because it was right around when people were getting bored of fortnite

but from what i saw from ppl i knew, a lot dropped it quickly. and then fn is fn, its always gonna be huge

[amber mirage]

Apex had a decent bit of problems for the first year

[pulsar cobalt]

it wasn't

[hard crane]

Another day, another major cut

[amber mirage]

It was still pretty huge

[worldly badger]

record profits still cutting studios

didnt their gaming division grow like 30%

I forget the actual figures but it grew a lot

[amber mirage]

I don't remember seeing any source indicating profits. Just revenue, which is up primarily because they're including ABK now.

[obsidian wyvern]

im seeing this for the year they launched, but i cant find any sources or any other site

[worldly badger]

Ya but in 2022 Halo tweeted that 20 million spartans have joined us so far

that doesnt reflect players that are still playing, just people who have signed in at least once

[worldly badger]

and thats just steam numbers not crossplay

[obsidian wyvern]

i remember reading somewhere that the newest season brought a ton of players

[north cipher]

@glad copper the people need you!

[obsidian wyvern]

its still huge is the point

[worldly badger]

I know it is massive

[vapid siren]

jfc we are so off my point now lmao

[pulsar cobalt]

huge now wasn't as huge back when it released because it had issues

[worldly badger]

its well above 1 mill+ players combined

[obsidian wyvern]

different topic. sort of

[worldly badger]

Apex Legends is available for free on PlayStation®4, PlayStation®5, Xbox One, Xbox Series X|S, Nintendo Switch, and PC via EA App and Steam

335k just on steam 24h peak btw

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah probably, isnt it like top 5 on xbox

[vapid siren]

yeah and its my fault

this is what i get for having nothing to do at work cause i dont have an email set up yet

and i work it

the catch 22 of needing tech help to get to helping with tech is great

[obsidian wyvern]

16th apparently nvm

[candid solar]

I never understood Apex' popularity all that clearly.

[worldly badger]

Apex is #7 on most played list for Xbox from what I'm seeing

well Apex is a fun game to play with friends and adds content regularly and being free

[candid solar]

Like, I'm aware of the mechanical fundamentals of why (battle royales, 'work hard for X or Y', character abilities and higher mobility), but not the practical things that make it particularly special in any regard.

[obsidian wyvern]

its probably a local list for me because fifa is in third lol

[candid solar]

Or fun.

[obsidian wyvern]

well third and 6th

[pulsar cobalt]

Most played is different for each country and that i'm pretty sure

[round laurel]

It has to be if Fifa is 3rd.

[worldly badger]

ya Apex is 7th in the US and 9th in Canada

its different based on what country the site is on

[candid solar]

Also I find it absolutely hilarious that some people are so damn deaf to the wind that they don't realize that Halo probably should've increased the number of cool abilities and such Spartans innately have as opposed to wanting to go back to 3 style Halo.

Or worse, think that'd actually be successful in today's market as a new game.

[worldly badger]

You want a hero shooter halo game?

[candid solar]

I want a Battlefield 4/1 style Halo game. Nameless Spartan supersoldiers with loadouts and class-based abilities.

[amber mirage]

A hero shooter could potentially be more popular. I know I'd enjoy playing it less.

[candid solar]

It'd slot in nicely with how we know Spartan Fireteams operate.

[pulsar cobalt]

Alot of people did not like those spartan abilities

[candid solar]

A lot of people who also don't play Infinite or MCC.

[worldly badger]

I feel like the issue with infinite was never the gameplay itself, that is why I am still playing it almost 3 years after release. Its the other issues like how it launched, ect

[candid solar]

But do play games with similar things to those abilities.

In other words, people booing 5 and Infinite's ability pools are both meaningless-we know what they cheer for.

[hasty zinc]

deep fried oreos?

[worldly badger]

Infinite got high praise on release it was after all the "challenges" "3 playlists" "broken network" ect really hurt it but people were loving the back to h3 style gameplay

[obsidian wyvern]

what other BR out there is like it

[pulsar cobalt]

Infinite doesn't have abilities

[candid solar]

It does.

[pulsar cobalt]

It doesn't

[worldly badger]

It has pickup abilities

[candid solar]

It's just repackaged into Halo 3 style equipment.

[obsidian wyvern]

wtf

[candid solar]

That's still an ability. Just one you need to pick up.

[worldly badger]

not built into your spartan abilities like a hero shooter though

[candid solar]

I swear to god I'm gonna strangle the jerk who came up with calling class-based shooters 'Hero shooters'

[hasty zinc]

you've never had one?

[worldly badger]

Like how h5 has a timer based thrust that was always there but infinite has a 3 thrusts that you pickup

[obsidian wyvern]

no

[hasty zinc]

oh man

missing out

[pulsar cobalt]

And alot people like it this way 🤷‍♂️

[candid solar]

'A lot'

[obsidian wyvern]

a lot seems to be true

[candid solar]

Figuratively, comparatively, relatively, or practically?

[obsidian wyvern]

it could just be a loud minority but I doubt it

[amber mirage]

There's a difference between the two

[obsidian wyvern]

and yeah, hero and class shooters are different from what I understand

[pulsar cobalt]

100% different

[worldly badger]

because they gave each class a "hero character"

[candid solar]

And most people who go 'hero shooter' don't actually know or care about the difference.

[worldly badger]

with their own personality and powers

Check all the hero shooters, its not like Battlefield classes, they are characters like heroes with special powers

[candid solar]

Like the animations that people used regarding Infinite developing an alleged 'hero shooter' at one point. Which, nothing in those animations ever actually indicated was true.

[smoky token]

yall heard the news?

[candid solar]

You don't name a 'hero character' 'heavy weapons'.

[obsidian wyvern]

scroll up

[worldly badger]

microsoft studio cutting? ya

Valorant, Apex, Overwatch hero shooters

Now Fortnite has special characters with built in powers too

[obsidian wyvern]

is Val a hero shooter

[worldly badger]

what do you call the characters you play as with super hero like powers

[candid solar]

Like-Even then, it's not like making Halo a class-based experience actually necessitates a fundamental change in core gameplay identity. Halo 4 and 5 did it just fine, though 5's implementation left more to be desired and 4's was just outright primitive.

[pulsar cobalt]

counter strike mixed with overwatch abilities pretty much that's what valorant is

[obsidian wyvern]

idk I see Val as a mix

[amber mirage]

Valorant is a hero shooter. Each character plays differently

[worldly badger]

look at the characters in val they have super human powers

[obsidian wyvern]

I thought hero shooters were more fixed loadouts

[amber mirage]

The abilities for each character are fixed.

[elfin glacier]

There's like 20 be specific

[candid solar]

Using Battlefield as the primary example-every 'class' functions effectively identically, with the same base health, speed, grenade options, some weapon overlap, etc etc.

[worldly badger]

val is like overwatch powers with a mix of counterstrike buy system

[candid solar]

In BF1 there's even a mode with every class locked to one sniper type gun with irons (to simulate a more 'realistic' ww1 battlefield).

[pulsar cobalt]

That mode died super quickly which was a shame

[candid solar]

Halo could easily do something very similar.

[candid solar]

It did, but the mode was less entertaining because less chaos was usually happening at any given moment. I loved the chaos and effort of operations.

[worldly badger]

didnt halo 4 try a class system for halo

[candid solar]

@worldly badger

[worldly badger]

I know how much that was loved

[pulsar cobalt]

The loadout system that wasn't loved at all in halo 4

[candid solar]

I hated it for being too primitive, but I did like the fact it was there.

[worldly badger]

I was being sarcastic

[candid solar]

Plus, Halo fans are cantankerous little jerks about everything that isn't a very narrow square. There's a reason I've never believed their criticism should be taken as gospel.

[worldly badger]

class system gets stale when certain things become meta and one type of playstyle. Halo everyone starts the game with the same Spartan and work in the sandbox to get their advantage

[candid solar]

Oh, sorry, a uh... pyrite triangle.

[candid solar]

I'm sorry, let me put down my BR so I can laugh harder.

Ha. Ha. Ha.

[worldly badger]

Ya the issue is lack of sandbox items

we had what 1 new gun wait its the bandit with a scope attached

[worldly sedge]

It’s funny how Halo hasn’t done a Hero shooter gameplay despite these major titles going out, credit to where credit is due. Glad that they don’t follow that trend.

[candid solar]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-laugh-sarcastic-fun-gif-12163274

[candid tusk]

Could have been neat in Infinite if the different weapon models were loadout style picks. Spawn in with different models of assault rifle and they actually handle differently.

Paired with playable elites and we'd really be cooking.

[candid solar]

In response to this, specifically, I find it hilarious.

[pulsar cobalt]

He's not wrong though

[worldly sedge]

Halo 4’s loadout system was imbalanced and too convenient like everybody can start out with a BR or the DMR/plasma pistol combo and nobody uses the AR

[candid solar]

Halo having a meta centered around a single gun over literally everything else has literally been a thing since CE.

[pulsar cobalt]

Infinites problem right now is no sandbox additions

[worldly badger]

zero new vehicle, 1 "new" gun, couple of util items (shroud, something else) for a live service game is what makes it stale

[candid tusk]

They've given you thirty shades of blue and you want more? Ungrateful.

[candid solar]

You're effectively saying that this thing, this systemic issue, doesn't exist because the game literally starts you out with the issue in your hands.

[obsidian wyvern]

actually i dont have enough blue

unironically

[worldly badger]

Starfield is about to get their first new vehicle before we are

[obsidian wyvern]

lol

[candid tusk]

True. We need the next Halo game to have a color code picker. Ditch the whole buy a pattern and it has preset colors thing.

Terrible system.

[pulsar cobalt]

I personally like the coating system though

[candid solar]

That's... Not even close to how that works. 'Too convenient' is starting out with your one shot instakill sniper rifle or two-shot LMG with a complete resistance to your game's defining ability pool.

To say 4's system, which still requires a minimum of effort with the most broken starting equipment, is 'too convenient' is ridiculous.

[candid tusk]

The idea of coatings being patterns is neat. Them being locked to specific colors is not.

[obsidian wyvern]

yeah they should actually just let you input any hex colour

[round laurel]

I'd go for #FFFFFF, what about you?

[worldly badger]

I agree make the 1st and 2nd primary color combinations all free then add what you want with your premade coating patterns to sell

[fossil skiff]

yes

[candid solar]

I love nice conversations about gameplay getting overrun by fricking colors.

[fickle drift]

how do you turn on skulls on a save?

[candid tusk]

B7A45D

[worldly sedge]

It is too me idk I’m not a game critic, I just say what’s on my mind

If everybody can start out with a BR, then it’s already over

[obsidian wyvern]

theres a good halo infinite joke in here i cant be bothered to word nicely

[candid tusk]

Ranked gameplay in shambles.

[round laurel]

Good choice. 🤝

[candid solar]

He isn't wrong because he never said anything that disagreed with the point. Halo has a direct objectively defineable meta, because literally every single game ever invented has a meta.

[worldly sedge]

Imagine playing ranked in the first place

Couldn’t be me because I’m not an e-SPORTS player I’m a casual one

[worldly badger]

Thats a decent portion of the playerbase

[candid tusk]

A good 100th, yeah.

[candid solar]

And that direct, objective meta is controlling power weapons in a particular hierarchy, particular spawn controls, and spamming the designated precision locus gun.

[worldly sedge]

Halo HCS for Firefight

[ocean herald]

i have nothing valuable to add, just wanted to say i really hate how people nowadays use the word "meta"

[obsidian wyvern]

they should make husky raid ranked 😤

[pulsar cobalt]

How does halo have meta ?

[candid solar]

I literally just described it.

[fickle drift]

The Meta was that guy that wore EVA

[pulsar cobalt]

Your literally the first guy i've seen that said halo has meta

[candid solar]

Freaking chess has a meta. Checkers. Tic Tac Toe.

[elfin glacier]

Wat

[candid solar]

Then you must not get out much.

[worldly badger]

Competitive halo has a meta

[candid tusk]

Halo's meta gameplay loop for victory hasn't changed since 2001. lol

[worldly badger]

changes with weapon nerfs, sandbox changes

[ocean herald]

facebook has meta

[pulsar cobalt]

How does it have meta you all using the same weapons and only 1-2 players can pick up power weapons in ranked atleast

[candid solar]

Which was LITERALLY MY ENTIRE POINT FROM THE BEGINNING

[candid tusk]

It's not a bad thing.

[obsidian wyvern]

i think zug may have had you mentally muted trench

[worldly badger]

Meta meaning the way in which mechanics are used for benefit/teams play around advantages

[candid solar]

That's a valid approach to my ramblings.

[obsidian wyvern]

the meta is to have fun

[candid tusk]

You betcha it is.

[amber mirage]

Actually, Meta has a Facebook

[candid solar]

This includes but is not limited to positioning, weapon control, what weapon in the sandbox to prioritize, when to use and when not to use. Fundamentally the meta will exist due to these traits whether you spawn with the equipment or have to get it.

[candid tusk]

No equipment. No guns. Only circular arena.

[worldly badger]

You can't say meta hasnt changed since 2001, with completely different maps we have since then, now we have sprint and curb sliding with break neck strafing speeds

[candid solar]

Ehhhhhhhh

[ocean herald]

back in my day meta just meant something self referential

[candid solar]

Meta can include imprinting abuse of engine movement mechanics to improve speed to memory.

[candid tusk]

It's the same gameplay loop, the gimmicks being added doesn't change its core. There are added layers, yes, but they don't change the base experience.

[ocean herald]

i was waiting for someone to acknowledge what i said lol

[candid solar]

And every shooter ever has had a 'best way to move', which often exploits innate engine traits.

Exploiting the very engine or issues the game has (halo 2 'combos') is an element of the meta.

[elfin glacier]

@obsidian wyvern

[worldly badger]

Matty Booty

[ocean herald]

do you have a screenshot with even smaller text pls

[vapid siren]

slowpoke i copypastad it already

[worldly badger]

What is this a screenshot for ants?

[elfin glacier]

You are stibky

[candid solar]

Next on the agenda, boarding and dual wielding were both gimmick mechanics.

[vapid siren]

wait i didnt paste it HERE

[candid solar]

:3

[fossil skiff]

bozo’d

[elfin glacier]

Cope

[worldly badger]

https://tenor.com/view/small-small-center-zoolander-ben-stiller-ants-gif-5494197

great movie

[obsidian wyvern]

boarding being hijacking?

[vapid siren]

Today I’m sharing changes we are making to our Bethesda and ZeniMax teams. These changes are grounded in prioritizing high-impact titles and further investing in Bethesda’s portfolio of blockbuster games and beloved worlds which you have nurtured over many decades.

To double down on these franchises and invest to build new ones requires us to look across the business to identify the opportunities that are best positioned for success. This reprioritization of titles and resources means a few teams will be realigned to others and that some of our colleagues will be leaving us.

Here are the changes going into effect:

Arkane Austin – This studio will close with some members of the team joining other studios to work on projects across Bethesda. Arkane Austin has a history of making impactful and innovative games and it is a pedigree that everyone should be proud of. Redfall’s previous update will be its last as we end all development on the game. The game and its servers will remain online for players to enjoy and we will provide make-good offers to players who purchased the Hero DLC.

Alpha Dog Studios – This studio will also close. We appreciate the team’s creativity in bringing Doom to new players. Mighty Doom will be sunset on August 7 and we will be turning off the ability for players to make any purchases in the game.

Tango Gameworks – Tango Gameworks will also close. We are thankful for their contributions to Bethesda and players around the world. Hi-Fi Rush will continue to be available to players on the platforms it is today.

Roundhouse Games – The team at Roundhouse Games will be joining ZeniMax Online Studios (ZOS). Roundhouse has played a key role in many of our recent game launches and bringing them into ZOS to work on The Elder Scrolls Online will mean we can do even more to grow the world that millions of players call home.

With this consolidation of our Bethesda studio teams, so that we can invest more deeply in our portfolio of games and new IP, a small number of roles across select Bethesda publishing and corporate teams will also be eliminated.
Those whose roles will be impacted will be notified today, and we ask that you please treat your departing colleagues with respect and compassion. We will provide our full support to those who are impacted in today’s notifications and through their transitions, including severance benefits informed by local laws.

These changes are not a reflection of the creativity and skill of the talented individuals at these teams or the risks they took to try new things. I acknowledge that these changes are also disruptive to the various support teams across ZeniMax and Bethesda that bring our games to market. We are making these tough decisions to create capacity to increase investment in other parts of our portfolio and focus on our priority games.

Bethesda remains one of the key pillars of Xbox with a strong portfolio of amazing games and thriving communities. As we look to the future, there is an impressive line-up of games on the horizon. In 2024 alone we have Starfield Shattered Space, Fallout 76 Skyline Valley, Indiana Jones and The Great Circle, and The Elder Scrolls Online’s Golden Road. As we align our plans and resources to best set ourselves up for success in this complex and changing industry, our teams across Arkane Lyon, Bethesda Game Studios, id Software, MachineGames, ZeniMax Online Studios and the Bethesda publishing and corporate teams will be well-positioned to build new IP, explore new game concepts, and expand on our existing franchises.

• Matt

[elfin glacier]

Rip

[worldly badger]

can you make it a bit smaller now

[obsidian wyvern]

i dont want to read this any more than before

[fossil skiff]

the image was better ngl

[elfin glacier]

Read it again

[candid solar]

Yeah, the mechanic borrowed from GTA.

[elfin glacier]

Chasing trends...

[obsidian wyvern]

i dont really see how

[elfin glacier]

Guyze we need helldiver game to chase helldivr trend btw

[obsidian wyvern]

dual wielding sure, hijacking?

[elfin glacier]

I hate number

[ocean herald]

"bro get off the wraith, it's my turnnnn"

[worldly badger]

Microsofts strat is buying and selling studios I guess

[worldly badger]

I want to see a list of all the studios they killed

[candid solar]

A gimmick is a mechanic or cosmetic addition to a product to set it apart from your competition. No other shooter really had hijacking at the time, even if it wasn't really a fresh idea to video games at the time.

[obsidian wyvern]

i thought a gimmick was something there to please fans that didnt really add anything to the game, like dual wielding lol

[void magnet]

😔

[candid solar]

Gimmicks aren't inherently actually a negative thing, the word just has a strong negative bias.

[worldly badger]

Tango games shouldve stayed a indie studio making bangers in the indie scene

[candid tusk]

A gimmick is any flair outside of the core mechanics, something that can be removed and the game be the same core game.

[candid solar]

I wonder what the folks who made Dust: An Elysian Tail are up to nowadays.

[obsidian wyvern]

..which isnt hijacking right

[candid solar]

No, that would be hijacking.

[wild sleet]

Why we saying hi to jack?

[candid tusk]

Hijacking could be removed and the game would be basically the same. It's a nice flair, a very nice gimmick.

[candid solar]

@plush sigil hi hi hello

[obsidian wyvern]

idk i think vehicle focused modes would be pretty different without hijacking/boarding

[candid tusk]

Could boil things down further and jumping is a mainstream gimmick.

[amber mirage]

They got acquired because of financial issues. If they stayed indie, they probably wouldn't have stayed around at all.

[ocean herald]

i don't think it's a gimmick. it's a very necessary feature to combat vehicles, especially when you don't have a power weapon

[candid solar]

The primary functions of hijacking are very central to an aspect of Halo that itself was kind of a gimmick for when Halo came out.

[worldly badger]

I see they were aquired by bethesda, now microsoft owns bethesda they were able to shut them down

[candid tusk]

The vehicles themselves are a gimmick, and hijacking is a counter to that gimmick.

[wild sleet]

I’m not the only one who knows that game? 😦

[void magnet]

Having more than one gun is a gimmick

[candid tusk]

Core Halo gameplay doesn't need vehicles. MLG reduced things down pretty well.

[candid solar]

IE, vehicles. Halo was a 'vehicle game'. Battlefield's gimmick was also 'vehicle game' as well as a 'class based game'.

[ocean herald]

so true. and the guns are a gimmick to counter fists. halo should just be melee combat tbh

[candid solar]

Gimmick is an absurdly adaptable term and it's funny because of it.

[worldly badger]

so it seems microsoft aquiring bethesda allowed tango gameworks to get shut down

[rare cedar]

the three pillars to Halo

-Gun
-Grenade
-Melee

[candid tusk]

The core of Halo gameplay was always "Guns, Grenades, Melee."
Panda beat me to the punch.

[candid solar]

I never understood that.

[rare cedar]

Spoken from Bungie

[void magnet]

Halo having a campaign is a gimmick

[pulsar cobalt]

You forgot the 4th strafe

[candid solar]

Like, from a practical perspective, you might as well be saying nothing.

There's more exceptions to the pyrite triangle than there are rules, lmao.

[void magnet]

Pls sign my nerf strafes petition 😎

[pulsar cobalt]

😂

[candid solar]

That's why I call the damn thing fool's gold, it doesn't mean anything that actually matters.

[void cloak]

what do you guys think we might get in today's shop?
another exclusive limited time bundle?

[pulsar cobalt]

Probably nothing

[ocean herald]

by this logic anything that isn't those 3 is a gimmick

[candid tusk]

The main idea is that they built the gameplay systems around being fun for that triangle. Different areas on maps to give each one of those triangle pieces a spotlight. Done well or not. lol

[candid solar]

A 55 gallon drum of hot dog water.

[urban anchor]

Worth $20

[worldly badger]

Tango gameworks never released a game that was "bad" unfortunate

[void magnet]

They’re gonna add the griddy

[candid solar]

I mean, a 55 gallon drum of literally anything for $20? Practically a steal.

[void cloak]

emotes in halo infinite

[candid solar]

The barrel alone is at least $40.

[candid tusk]

You can also make metal art out of the barrel.

[urban anchor]

Adds more value

[candid tusk]

The design is very human.

[candid solar]

I mean... Yeah? Halo even having a dedicated grenade button is different than a lot of its competition and can be construed as a mechanical selling point.

IE... Funny word.

[amber mirage]

Yeah. Unfortunately, just because games are good, doesn't mean they're successful. I would've loved to see more stuff from them.

[ocean herald]

i don't think you know what a gimmick is

[candid solar]

And I don't think you ever actually thought about what it means.

[worldly badger]

a grenade button is standard in a military shooter lol

[candid tusk]

No, it isn't. Or at least, it wasn't.

[void magnet]

Why are we talking about what is and isn’t a gimmick again?

[candid solar]

Maybe if you unblocked me you'd know.

[ocean sierra]

Honestly blame Bethesda previous management, they really set up Arkane Austin for failure forcing them to make Redfall.

[void magnet]

I did

[candid solar]

At the time? Absolutely wasn't.

[candid tusk]

Lots of games had a weapon wheel at the time where you pull out a single thing to use. If you're using melee, you pull out a knife. If you're throwing a grenade, you have to wheel out the grenade, and then go back to your gun.

[worldly badger]

how far back are we going here

[candid solar]

2001, lmao

[ocean herald]

i didn't know this was a space where we exercised thinking

[worldly badger]

we are deciding gameplay from 2001 for the future halo game?

[candid solar]

We're talking about future games now?

[fossil skiff]

Yes, back to grenade jumps.

[worldly badger]

or do we want to be stuck in the past

[candid solar]

Because I was talking about what set CE apart from its contemporaries

[void magnet]

@candid solar I literally just asked a question lmao idk why you have to hit me with angst

[worldly badger]

what is a good balance of new and old mechanics for the future of halo

[candid solar]

Not part of the conversation about gimmicks, that's for sure.

That's a whole different conversation.

[candid tusk]

One must look to the past to see the path to their future unfold.

[worldly badger]

gimmicks is a played out topic

[fickle drift]

Wow its almost like years and years of bad business practices have left the gaming industry in a bad place or something

[candid solar]

Oh, I assumed you still had me blocked. You were talking when the conversation started, so I was more confused than anything.

[candid tusk]

AAA industry, yes. Indies are living it up in the city.

[worldly badger]

you know whats a gimmick using loadouts to try to chase trends in other games and ruin a halo game

[amber mirage]

Indies have it pretty rough too

A lot of the same problems they've always had, though.

[candid solar]

'Ruin' is such a strong word. Inaction and stagnation can also ruin something just fine, as well.

[worldly badger]

it was a cod/halo abomination

[candid solar]

Lmao, okay buddy.

[worldly badger]

oh wait you have a kill streak you can call down? boom!

wait its called drop pods revolutionary

[candid solar]

Now we're at the inane spouting portion and this is where I tap out.

[worldly badger]

lmao

am I wrong though

[candid solar]

Yes.

[void magnet]

It’s just the pursuit of lightning in a bottle. No faith in making interesting stuff on lower budgets. A ton of gambling with ideas and going scorched earth when things don’t pan out

[worldly badger]

please counter my points with more than a single word

[candid solar]

But no amount of counter-crap slinging is actually going to change anyone's mind. It's just being annoying.

[fickle drift]

Honestly I wouldn't buy a Microsoft game anymore they admitted their politics I'm not interested

[wild sleet]

[candid solar]

No. You decided to start whining instead of properly discussing and that's not worth engaging.

[vapid siren]

im sorry what

[fickle drift]

Plus Microsoft is way past their prime, this is way paste halo 3 and gears of war

[worldly badger]

I see you tapped out quicker than I seen in ufc fights

[vapid siren]

nah lets rewind a sec what

[void magnet]

I feel this, especially with gamepass being a thing why even bother buying an MS game, try it out with gamepass and you can just cancel if it ain’t your thing

[candid solar]

Elaborate on politics.

[vapid siren]

[void magnet]

Ah wait I read politics as policies

[elfin glacier]

What about their politics

[obsidian wyvern]

uhhh no politics 🤓

[elfin glacier]

Shut

[vapid siren]

@obsidian wyvern shut

[obsidian wyvern]

LOL

[candid solar]

🫵

[elfin glacier]

Beat up revenant

[worldly badger]

can we discuss politics in the no politics discord

[vapid siren]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-kick-jjba-gif-13894493

[fickle drift]

Absolutely not, I know how they react to their political rivals and I rather be here and discuss the old stuff

[elfin glacier]

ShuT

[obsidian wyvern]

this was the exact gif I was thinking of wtf

[vapid siren]

brother what are you on about

[candid solar]

So, how do you feel about pride month?

[elfin glacier]

the microstasi will murder him for praising bungoloid

[vapid siren]

well at least you're willing to rip off the bandaid ig

[worldly badger]

343 is based in Seattle Washington, surely people hired there are not affiliated to a certain political ideology

[candid solar]

:>

[elfin glacier]

Too obvious

[candid solar]

I wasn't trying for subtlety.

[vapid siren]

[wild sleet]

I love Democracy

[vapid siren]

bruh

[ocean herald]

you're telling me my video games are made by liberals!?? (pov a conservative gamer somewhere whose day has just been ruined)

[fickle drift]

Seems a bit excessive, the son of god only got one day and that was Christmas

[candid solar]

Well, that answers that.

[obsidian wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[vapid siren]

[void magnet]

Why do things always start going this way 🤦‍♂️

[elfin glacier]

@fickle drift what do you thinj about marty o'godnell

[fossil skiff]

it’s Halo, we are used to going in circles until the end of time

[candid solar]

No we're going in a triangle.

[elfin glacier]

CIRCLES WITHIN CIRCLES

[worldly badger]

Sony reverted the account rules for HD2 can I go back to bringing democracy

[fickle drift]

My main problem with Microsoft is their obnoxious agenda to DEI everything, which is why I don't buy from them anymore

[void magnet]

That was a crazy irl event there 😅

[obsidian wyvern]

lowkey the visor for the Asian thing went hard

[vapid siren]

uh huh

[candid solar]

... You do realize what platform you're on, right?

[fossil skiff]

Aaaaand there it is.

[obsidian wyvern]

just a shame no helmet I use can properly show off how good it looks

[marble matrix]

finally, i waited for 12 minutes to chat here

[worldly badger]

ya the pacific islander coating goes nice with the tenrai core

[elfin glacier]

Another fine addition to the Halo Fan collection. Microstasi has been deployed

[candid solar]

Yeaaaah it kinda sucks in that way

[marble matrix]

yo guys do anyone still play halo combat evolved ?

[void magnet]

MS lays off a bunch of people, shutters multiple studios

“Yeah my biggest problem is that they have diversity in their stories”

[worldly badger]

people who like 2001 halo maybe

[marble matrix]

do anyone still play Halo Combat Evolved here ?

[void magnet]

Like pick your battles people

[worldly badger]

You can have issues with both at the same time

[jolly willow]

I do

[marble matrix]

yay

[vapid siren]

i feel ultimately responsible for wtf is going on

[marble matrix]

man do you know how many years am trying to find someone to play with me

[vapid siren]

why are you all like this

[fossil skiff]

just another day here dw

[worldly badger]

As long as Microsoft keeps aquiring studios they will have studios shut down too, casualties of their strategy

[void magnet]

🫠

[fickle drift]

Why the freak would I care about them firing a bunch of people and shuttering multiple studios? This has been a problem for years, I've been saying change your buying habits for a more healthy industry for years... Now I just get to laugh and say I told you so...I did my part.

[jolly willow]

There are tons of people still playing the game.

[ocean herald]

how many?

[void magnet]

Bruh you don’t know me

[marble matrix]

5 years or 4 i think

i play the original halo ce since i was a kid

[candid solar]

I mean you should know why I am, you've certainly known me for long enough.

[candid solar]

Bruh

[marble matrix]

well guys i can't play the other halo games cause of my pc so am trying to find someone who will play the original halo ce with me

[ocean herald]

try the lfg channels

[marble matrix]

okay thx

[calm fiber]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[elfin glacier]

#lfg-other probably

[worldly badger]

or lfg social or campaign

[vapid siren]

hes dead, jim

its ok

[worldly badger]

People will just say wow thats terrible people got laid off, back to gaming

[fickle drift]

I do hope the studio has recovered well from that event.

[worldly badger]

Silver lining they mentioned some members of the studios went towards other bigger studios in Bethesda

[obsidian wyvern]

it happened hours ago, I just hope theyre given a lot of help to find new jobs and whatever

[obsidian wyvern]

riots care package was really good

[vapid siren]

on the upside new museum of cope entry

been a bit since we had one of those ngl

@hasty zinc i think y oud enjoy the museum

[marble matrix]

am going to play halo is anyone comeing ?

[candid solar]

Well, I certainly wouldn't announce that I was.

[calm fiber]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[worldly badger]

Sorry we don't play halo we just like to talk about it here

[candid solar]

It is quite funny.

[marble matrix]

i know

but it's dead there

so am asking here

[candid solar]

I haven't actually played Halo before, I exclusively play Uno.

[worldly badger]

I am more of a checkers kinda guy

[void magnet]

I tried playing slayer in Infinite on MnK without aim assist on recently and it scarred me 💀

[vapid siren]

coward

[obsidian wyvern]

I can snipe better without aim assist but that's about it

[marble matrix]

so i guess i will play alone as always lol

[vapid siren]

i had to fight eli x on shotty snipes with no aa and i came out... ok

[obsidian wyvern]

well I haven't tried enough

[worldly badger]

you are playing mcc halo ce?

[marble matrix]

the original halo ce

[void magnet]

AA used to mess up aim in firefight pretty blatantly but it’s literally impossible to do well in a decently skilled match without it

Nerf strafes, at least for the next game 😭

[worldly badger]

on the og xbox?

[marble matrix]

the one like my pfp

[obsidian wyvern]

https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1787860907588030860?t=v_ncpgUNTT06GLjuG3pv6w&s=19

Tom Warren (@tomwarren) on X

Microsoft asks Xbox gamers to "Feel the Burn Today" with yet another special edition Xbox controller on the same day it shuts Xbox studios 😬 really unfortunate timing for this https://t.co/hf33bd3ufC

Twitter · May 7, 2024, 3:03 PM

[marble matrix]

on a pc since i was 12 or 11 i think

[worldly badger]

you can play it on PC without the MCC version?

[marble matrix]

yea

[worldly badger]

I only have it on MCC idk if its even cross play with that version

[pulsar heron]

there was a pc version of CE before mcc. the two are not compatible

[void magnet]

“Get it? Cuz we fired so many people!”

I’m tired boss

[candid solar]

Someone's a devious little prankster.

[worldly badger]

Feel the burn, I hope some of the shut down studios got a set of the controllers as compensation

[pulsar heron]

@marble matrix • no you cant

[marble matrix]

who are you

[worldly badger]

one of the discord mods

[marble matrix]

oh a moderator

[rare cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-minute-who-are-you-kazoo-kid-funny-gif-16933963

[obsidian wyvern]

oh

[worldly badger]

aged like milk

[obsidian wyvern]

oh no it's gonna keep sending the image every time I open discord isn't it

[marble matrix]

sorry i willnot but i have an excuse

[vapid siren]

ngl kek af

[obsidian wyvern]

no

omg I forgot how I fixed this last time

[vapid siren]

[worldly badger]

https://www.inverse.com/gaming/hi-fi-rush-2023-end-of-year-interview

[marble matrix]

@pulsar heron can i say something i wanna tell you something and i canot DM you

[rare cedar]

About to issue a warning for spam

[obsidian wyvern]

I actually hate this app, gonna just reinstall it

[vapid siren]

hold up let him cook

[ocean sierra]

MS never said this lol, this came from Jeff Grubb, an "insider" who has been proven wrong countless times now.

[vapid siren]

this is pretty funny one

[worldly badger]

Well Phil Spencer seemed very pleased with hifi rush reception

[marble matrix]

@pulsar heron hey sir where did you disappear i want to ask you something

[worldly badger]

Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer in an interview with IGN said the shadow drop of Hi-Fi Rush has been a success and the community has responded well to it

[worldly sedge]

Who knows what goes inside the mind of Phil Spencer

[ocean sierra]

Being pleased with Hifi Rush is one thing, being pleased with Tango's overall games sales performance especially in regards to their higher budget games selling poorly like Ghostwire Tokyo is another thing entirely.

[rare cedar]

Please don’t tag mods. If there’s a server issue, use @bleak yoke

[worldly badger]

I guess thats fair, but Redfall was understandable since it was so unpolished it made microsoft look bad

[marble matrix]

sorry and it's not a server issue

[steady jolt]

Just ask

[worldly badger]

Looking at Phil Spencer answering questions about RedFall launch I knew he was going to make changes it was humiliating

But how do you green light a game in that state

[marble matrix]

how

[obsidian wyvern]

https://twitter.com/MightyDOOM/status/1787837897837527051?t=yir7N2ptnKxeckmfwQFCUg&s=19 nice of them

Mighty DOOM (@MightyDOOM) on X

Players interested in requesting a refund for purchased in-game currency can sign up here https://t.co/uONLJKkejc to receive details.

Twitter · May 7, 2024, 1:32 PM

CMONN I forgot to reinstall

[marble matrix]

that a bot how i can ask him

[worldly badger]

You have to ask in a lfg channel where no one is there to answer gl spartan

[fickle drift]

So nobody is aware if anything akin to a "Spartan Chatter" is occurring anytime soon, if I remember correctly?

[obsidian wyvern]

what do they have to tell us I wonder

[hasty zinc]

bro..

[obsidian wyvern]

oh it fixed, sick

[fickle drift]

I apologize, questions just keep entering my mind sometimes. Sometimes more than once... Again, I apologize.

[hasty zinc]

when one is happening, people will be made aware

[steady jolt]

What? You said you wanted to ask Tora something but you couldn't DM them. I said to just ask here

[marble matrix]

well guys i will accept it that nobody will play the multiplayer of the original copy of Halo Ce with me, so I'm leaving anyone needs something before i leave

[obsidian wyvern]

a million bucks

pls

[hasty zinc]

and an iced coffee please

[fickle drift]

I wish I could be aware of many things...

Like why is it called "bacon"?

[hasty zinc]

today is the most sunday-like tuesday ever

[worldly badger]

that would assume there are things left to announce besides operations

[obsidian wyvern]

lazy?

[marble matrix]

lmao

[steady jolt]

I need people to stop breaking things today, stop calling meetings when I have things already blocked in my diary, stop coming to me for work that's needed urgently in 2 weeks, when you've known about it for 6

[obsidian wyvern]

that's a yes right

[marble matrix]

no of course

[obsidian wyvern]

the iced coffee will do 🙄

[steady jolt]

And this is only Day 1 of me running the dev team while everyone else is away 😞

[marble matrix]

i got milk shake with chocolate

[worldly badger]

hold in there spartan

[exotic bramble]

Start your very own grunt rebellion

[fickle drift]

Being an admin on this server must be like watching multiple sitcoms at once, with varying quality.

[worldly badger]

tell yourself what would chief do

[steady jolt]

Yesterday was physically draining, I guess I should have prepared for today's mental drain 😅

[fickle drift]

You should be prepared for that everyday.

You can let yourself get caught lacking.

[worldly badger]

I like getting pre drained for the drainage

[marble matrix]

okay bye guys i'm leaving the server , peace!

[fair parcel]

Bro someone shot Drake house

[fickle drift]

huh

[worldly badger]

have a good day brother

[steady jolt]

I would really rather not have to prepapre to be mentally drained, I'd just rather not be mentally drained at all

[fair parcel]

Yooo this beef is war

[fickle drift]

Oh snap.

[marble matrix]

you too

[fair parcel]

Someone shot drakes security guard at his mansion

[worldly badger]

What

[fair parcel]

Look it up

[worldly badger]

when someone takes shots fired literally

[fair parcel]

Bro took ‘I think people like you should DIE’ literally

[fickle drift]

Let's be honest here, Kendrick is just pulling a LTG in musical format.

[obsidian wyvern]

I want to listen to the latest 2 Kendrick songs but that means I'd have to listen to Drake's first 😔

[worldly badger]

Kendrick somehow got people dancing to a drake diss different levels

[obsidian wyvern]

I didn't expect it to be as huge as it was

[fair parcel]

Family matters was a good diss

But meet the grahams set him back

[worldly badger]

Meet the Grahams was darker than I was expecting

[obsidian wyvern]

only listened to euphoria so far

[fickle drift]

Either 3 or Reach (though Infinite possibly has them beat when it comes to the gameplay)

[fair parcel]

Kendrick has gone hard after him

[heavy crane]

Drake’s first diss was pretty good. And I don’t tend to like him or his music. You can skip his most recent diss. Lol

[obsidian wyvern]

what was his first one called

[heavy crane]

Family Matters I think

[vapid siren]

oh youre here

[obsidian wyvern]

oh yeah

[worldly badger]

Drakes the heart part 6 was a flop I'm sorry

[obsidian wyvern]

SPOTIFYYYYYYYYY

[heavy crane]

I’m him

[languid kernel]

True

[rare cedar]

Let’s not

Anyways

Anybody else wanted to crip walk to Not Like Us

[worldly badger]

why did my post get removed its about the musical scale

[rare cedar]

Don’t start dude

[worldly badger]

ok lol

[fickle drift]

What's the best armor core?

[worldly badger]

rakshasa front looks the coolest to me but the back is rough

[obsidian wyvern]

I can't be bothered to listen to 7 mins of it, started off decent

[heavy crane]

Rakshasa supremacy

[worldly badger]

eaglestrike might be the core I will never use

[heavy crane]

I never see anyone using eagle strike

[obsidian wyvern]

never using chimera

[worldly badger]

not a fan of chimera style too

[heavy crane]

Chimera benefitted a lot from getting cross core helmets at least

[worldly badger]

looks like crysis more than halo

Tenrai samurai style is kinda cool

especially with swords

[heavy crane]

I only use rak and mark v. Sometimes mark 7

[worldly badger]

but I like more traditional spartan styles

[obsidian wyvern]

i like my yoroi but i never use it

[worldly badger]

I make it look cool for when I swipe past it in the armor hall

[obsidian wyvern]

lol

[worldly badger]

I was rocking the Mark VII with the zeta helm for awhile

alternating coatings

[obsidian wyvern]

they made some rak coating cross core now and it looks best on mirage so im sticking with it for a while

[fossil skiff]

Mark 7 + CQB shoulders is my go-to

[obsidian wyvern]

i just dont like how low non-mirage helmets are on this core so nothing looks right if it wasnt made for it

im not huge on this helmet, doesnt look bad but the only one of two i found that goes it with

[worldly badger]

I don't like how a lot of chest attachments are just grey and don't change with the coating

limits a lot of possible cool looks

[fickle drift]

I always did feel that the Mirage core had the helmet placements a bit "low".

[worldly badger]

like you have football shoulder pads with your helmet inside of it lol

[candid solar]

It's just because its armor has a very high set of shoulder bars and rests higher.

[worldly badger]

I get that but doesnt look good with most helmets because of it

[candid solar]

Proportions wise none of the armors are really 'different' in any way short of odd bulk and helmet placement, which doesn't change much if at all between cores.

[worldly badger]

agree to disagree

one of the reasons I avoid certain cores is because most of the helmets I like the proportions look bizarre

[obsidian wyvern]

they should raise the helmets that werent made for mirage, and lower everything on rak

[fickle drift]

You guys think Chucky would win a fight against a grunt?

[candid solar]

Yes.

[worldly badger]

depends which grunt

some of them are resourceful

[fickle drift]

How is it this hard to choose a specific grunt.

[worldly badger]

any of those grunts from Gruntpocalypse

[fickle drift]

Let's use Bipbap in this case.

[worldly badger]

easy win for Bipbap

only the chief could take him down

[fickle drift]

I don't know, man...

[worldly badger]

he just needs a well placed shot

Well atleast we have an Xbox games showcase in June

[plush sigil]

rage

[wanton kestrel]

🐄

[glossy relic]

Damn. That's a cool spartan

[worldly badger]

so whats the weekly update going to be today any guessers?

any playlist/maps or just a shop rotation

with the weekly challenges reset

[hardy heart]

Jesus, I woke up to the bad news

[round laurel]

The reception to Microsoft's recent closures has been understandably harsh. It makes you wonder how bad the financials must be if they decided to shut down both Tango and Arkane Austin. Hi-Fi Rush is a fantastic game, and the developers clearly have a lot of talent. Retaining such skilled personnel is very valuable. Redfall obviously underperformed, but Arkane has a proven track record of creating high-quality games, as evidenced by Prey and Dishonored. Cancelling Redfall and reallocating those resources would have been a better decision in my view, but I feel like MS were scared to cancel any more projects back then.

[hardy heart]

There goes any chance to stand out in the Japanese market

[forest lagoon]

Cheese on top or cheese under?

[latent sequoia]

On top

[tight remnant]

Outside

[barren haven]

Under

[forest lagoon]

But why?

[barren haven]

I personally think cheese goes in the middle of a sandwich

Cause cheese is usually a little sticky so it helps keep the whole sandwich together a little better

[forest lagoon]

This is a good point

[worldly badger]

cheese ontop of the top bun

this game is slandering my aim with the amount of blank shots

the hitmarker is there but not the damage

[obsidian wyvern]

under

[unkempt vessel]

I just got done watching rvb restoration

It good

[molten pelican]

under, objectively

[graceful inlet]

so... I played HALO 3 ODST and... i think... 7/10??? it was nothing for me 😄

[obsidian wyvern]

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1787893649768132672?t=-EERjwPvwfqias1_ds8MKA&s=19

Halo Support (@HaloSupport) on X

Several #HaloInfinite playlist changes were made via a backend update today:
• Featured rotational: Corrosion 24/7 rotated out as scheduled.
• Arena rotational: Social Slayer rotated in.
• BTB rotational: Big Team Heavies replaced Big Team Social. Big Team Heavies now features…

Twitter · May 7, 2024, 5:13 PM

[obsidian wyvern]

just saw a tweet that redfall got an update a few hours ago, right before they got laid off 😐

can't post that tweet because twitter refreshed randomly and it disappeared

[pulsar cobalt]

Let's just hope 343 does something about it

[muted plaza]

is the platinum marigold from the exchange only for the sidekick and not multi?

[floral pollen]

its multi

[muted plaza]

is there any way to preview it on other weapons? I cant find it inside customization for other weapons

[pulsar cobalt]

I hope 343 does more cross-core coatings really want to use the eaglestrike ones on Mirage 😦

[elfin glacier]

Dog

[floral pollen]

should be in the weapons bench

[soft kiln]

whats like a good but weird weapon combo in a firefight? one time we were playing custom firefight with skewers with infinite ammo and no reload, the dropship mayhem was real 😄

[floral pollen]

Rockets and anything really, its easy to clean up boss waves with rockets

[worldly badger]

coating are nice but can we get some gameplay updates

[obsidian wyvern]

they want to have fun, not make it super easy

[worldly badger]

banished honor was more of a quality of life patch notes than anything else

plasma pistol can emp vehicles? time to log in woohoo

[obsidian wyvern]

+5k players

[worldly badger]

20million players log in instantly

I got 17k spartan points looking at the exchange wondering what is even worth unlocking

[glossy relic]

If I streamed a halo campaign in vc would anyone join?

[soft kiln]

yeah done those rocket matches,they are nice. been wondering some funny combos that like force u to play with a different tactic etc. only plasma pistols would be very interesting with gruntpocalypse 😂 maybe put them on easy

[glossy relic]

Wished infinite actually had wildlife

[worldly badger]

I saw a deer in the Infinite teaser trailer

[obsidian wyvern]

you can combine weapons with the script node, could do bottomless flexfire with ravager rounds

[glossy relic]

What a dissapointment... wish infinite revived halo. We can only dream

[soft kiln]

what is script node and flexfire

[glossy relic]

The closest we have to the glory days is mcc

[elfin glacier]

Do they make you people in a factory

[worldly badger]

and rhinoceros stampeding in the wild no where to be found

[obsidian wyvern]

flexfire is the variant s7 sniper

one sec on the script node

[obsidian wyvern]

https://youtu.be/yunaX2Pqf1Y?si=nXqOBYeaRIEyhDUK

it's pretty easy

[soft kiln]

aah ok, i get it, i have seen this in some custom games where they change the way a weapon shoots. like they made halo ce pistol by making the infinite's sidekick shoot the brute sniper shots 😄

[soft kiln]

cool cool,thanks. i havent tried forge, just taking what somebody else has made.

[obsidian wyvern]

it's really easy honestly, you just grab a firefight map and place the script in there

[worldly badger]

Check the Infinite trailer from 2018 and notice none of that was in the game

[soft kiln]

maybe i'll get more into it later. im proud of myself for even finally starting to create custom matches 😅

[worldly badger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmdb-KmlzD8

[shut linden]

Microsoft really looked at early 2010s EA and said "hold my drink" huh?

The impressive part is where they spent 70 billion dollars explicitly to buy the studios to kill them. Not even EA flexed that hard.

[ocean sierra]

Both Tango & Austin were likely to get shut down under Bethesda, just literally look how much their games sold poorly before Microsoft bought them.