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Armor Lock for season 5 if we aren't careful
Oh god
Hated armor lock π
It just made combat slower than it needed to be and wasn't fun (imo) to go up against or even use
Armor lock was Goated
Every time I activate armor lock a guy with a shotgun or energy sword would wait 2 feet away from me and proceed to murder me the second I came out
I will admit you could make some cool plays with it
Sounds like a skill issue
Yeah I duck out of the way of a sniper with it once
I think being a counter to getting splattered was probably intended to be the more common use, they advertised it that way a lot
But folk got more use out of it in 4v4s where they'd just hide until their team picked up the kill or timed the i-frames to block a melee or 'no-u' a sword user
Armour lock vs Ghost π
Really good Armor Lock users were such a pain
Yessssssss
People who use Armor Lock for the invincibility < People who use armor lock for EMP, deflection functionality, and vehicle destruction
People who use armour lock to troll and be annoying > Everyone else
People > Everyone else
We love antisocial behaviour involving armour lock π
Omfg can my teammates stop being so stupid
Like genuinely it's so annoyingtat this point
Stop rushing in trying to 1v2 every single game
To all platinum players out there stop being slow
Mad cuz bad. Simple as π
even in Onyx they do that TBH
I love team mates π
sometimes
Always π
Greetings, this may not be the place but may I ask:
Where can we contact a moderator from Halo Master Chief Collection Steam Forums?
Thanks for any responses in advance and apologies if I'm setting this question in the wrong place!
Wrong place... Scram!
I already apologized if it's the wrong place, there's no need for you to be rude :/
I miss this, but mostly for custom games or specific mode potential.
Yeah sure you are prob that teammate lol
You are everywhere you need to be, always.
Now you have to make a sort of 'loadout room' which is just plain annoying.
No u
Anyone remember jt machinima?
No
Like, it used to be that you could set up different loadouts for a sort of Trench Warfare game mode, and it'd simplify matters.
But now it kinda just doesn't let you, which can kneecap some bits of creativity.
They used to make halo music using machinima
Ooo
Now they only really make mascot horror music
No need for that, keep it civil please
It was a joke
Your the kinda guy to put your socks in the soap droor aren't you
Droor
I throw them on the floor
Oh the pain
Droor lol
How could you
Door?
Noor?
Socks should always stay on,
Open na noor OPEN NA NOOR OPEN NA NOOR!
Why y'all talkin bout socks now kinda crazy ngl
Idk u started
Did I
Yes
That's how you get trench foot
When
Now
censored you started it
When you misspelled drawer
You have a bit of a trench obsession don't you?
That wasn't me just someone with same name and profile picture purely coincidence
Oh ok. I believe you π
Ni-
You gullible lil *****
The Knights who say Ni?
Ye yes
Bring us... A SHRUBBERY!
I only say no around blat man ya know the Russian Batman ya thought I meant black man your racist I'm telling mom on you
The only thing you'll get is a halo 3 teabag
Oh
This conversation is making my headache worse.
Well, I pull out Halo Spartan Strike howaboutthat?
Screw apple
π
Pulls out halo ce for Android fake edition on you
I surrender π³οΈβ
I am hereby conceding all of my territory
Also, I commit to an agreement to not rearm for the next 50+ years.
But seriously I saw halo ce apk and I died laughing
I used to play BioShock on the IPhone lol
I prefer android
We need a Halo for Nintendo Switch π
Halo is Xbox exclusive
I knowwww π
They should release it for PS and switch
So sad. Nintendo and Microsoft should team up to bully Sony
We HATE Sony π‘π‘π‘
Let's not
But ps is at war with xbox
No console wars here please
The more players to experience Halo the better
Microsoft is the Fellowship ππ and Sony is Mordor π
And this goes to any exclusive games btw
That's never gonna happen
We need to keep Halo gatekept!
An exclusive is an exclusive
Only the chosen shall experience its majesty!

Lets talk about this elsewhere
Okay π
why don't we all play infinite
Cause I'm busy playing Spartan Assault!!!
I haven't gotten my Xbox yet
even better
A person of higher cultural knowledge I see
I have a burning hate towards rts games
Why isn't the description for team slayer accurate
I have a burning hatred toward Hip Hop Music
Idk, just isn't I guess
aneurysm
Bro can we talk in dms I wanna make a joke but I can't do it in here
is there something you need?
Hi I'm Poppy
I'm Poppy
Yes. I would like help with something if possible.
I hope to create my own internet one day.
Hi just wanting to get back into reach. Anyone know how to get into some matches
Start the game
Go to matchmaking
Give it a minute or two
Today we're going to interview this plant πͺ΄
Is there many games left.
Hi
Today I'm on the floor
You can DM me right now but I may ask that we move to Steam PMs at some point
Yes bud
Favourite Poppy Album?
Oh then no
you can't find games online anymore
Thanks dude
Whatever is more appropriate/suitable for you. I've sent you a friend request on discord but Steam is equally alright.
Oh tough one
This year's been really good but I'm waiting for the album to decide
AIAG though was my favourite for years but I like to add Flux in
Can 343 please improve the mcc anti cheat π© thereβs just too many hackers on mcc now
Yeah! AIAG is such a great album! Love Chic Chick and Play Destroy.
I must say though that I really do love her metal stuff too. So I can't really decide. Either way, Knock off was a banger!
If I had to chose though, probably either AIAG or I Disagree. (I do love Flux though, especially the title track and Lessen the Damage)
πππ
Play Destroy always makes me wonder how We Appreciate Power would've gone if they didn't fall out
From I Disagree, definitely love the title track and Concrete; I love her metal stuff but more the pop metal tracks, like X as well
Me too! Their collaboration had so much potential. Definitely a massive shame :((
Either way, love Poppy. Her and MARINA are my two favourite artists.
Please tell me thereβs a anticheat update coming soon for mcc. Itβs getting overran by cheaters
Solution: Stop cheating π
Same haha; I might give MARINA a listen sometime, I also like Aurora and Lorde
Lorde is great. Love her stuff!
Does the double xp boost only count for challenges?
It doesnt count for any match complete or top 50% of team stuff
bruh why
Idk why
the console companion app is so much better at what it does than the Xbox app
I got that too
Xbox App don't work for me
I sound like a Robot in parties π
Discord works fine though. It's a real nuisance.
I imagine other functionality of the old app will come in time, but aspects that maybe weren't used will probably be dropped.
the companion app was just so much smoother than the Xbox one
it was like the one good app from Microsoft
Microsoft try to make any program without at least a gigabyte of bloat challenge (impossible)
Hello I need help, I want to get back in the day achievement on pc, do I need anything else except 3 other players, which I find very hard?
Taking a break from discord for the past 2 days and infinite this week feels so good
was wondering where you were
lol
christ campers on scarr are just... I don't even
hey guys this might be pretty niche but does anyone know who the youtuber is that made videos about going "Behind the scenes" in halo reach cutscenes? i wanna see the one in winter contingency where you get abushed by zealots and punch one in the face
might be generalkidd actually
but idk if he made one of those videos on that cutscene
Up to you
sup im new here
Thatβs gamecheat13 and the video is playable cutscenes
Hi new here, I'm Icky Spartan
hi
sup
Yes, it's free and a relatively small download compared to other triple-A MP games.
is the campaign any good?
For Game Pass or a heavy discount, yes.
which game
campers kinda just make you wanna quit this game sigh
im pretty sure campers are in every game tho lmao
yes, dating back to original CE
i miss being able to play ce at a lan party
pretty much goes for every game
Campaign is amazing imo
Sure but I feel like there were a lot bigger maps then
I keep getting Scarr on BTB and its too small
Just been watching movie recaps on youtube and just chilling and not going on computer for once.
I think I wont play infinite for another week.
Feel so good not worrying about btb kd every match 
Hello
Ello
Rats
Delicious
I don't think it's small, but not as open.
π―fr?
Alright my name is back I think
No
Good good
Yeah
Watched some drag racing today
Dude why is my name TheOneLn itβs supposed to be static
Idk
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discord giveaways
Streaming it in Discord right?
Hello chat
i got the drop through discord a while back i think thats how i got it
Can we say spoilers in the chat
Prefer they at least be spoiler tagged, but depends what it is you want to talk about?
I was just asking
Hello chat
When they doing the next one do you know?

does the infinite campaign provide any closure on the halo 5 story or is it something completely random
Eh, both
That's a great question for the #lore-and-universe channel π
My brother and his friend really tried bragging about beating me in a 2v1 so now im making them mad rn
Absolutely whooping them currently
kinda does and doesnt if that makes sense
I need to check LinkedIn more, missing out on some cool stuff and announcements
Just saw Eric Dies is moving on from 343, he worked on some cool stuff
Imagine the day when Halo Infinite on PC allows people to use their Steam user names rather than the Xbox ID.
I'd rather not see some highly inappropriate names in the games
I already get my fill in D2 and BattleBits
Just change ur gt to ur steam nameβ¦
D2 names 
It's also that I think all Microsoft games has to use your Xbox ID anyways, right? I remember that in Sea of Thieves and in Forza
Yeah. Since they run off of Xbox's online infrastructure, they use Xbox/MS accounts and the associated gamertags.
yep
Infinite using Steam names has pretty much zero chance of happening
I saw someone on Infinite named LambFornicator or something like that
plenty of names can get past Xboxβs filter
For sure
A new spartan learns how to play #HaloInfinite
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I'm actually kind of surprised Infinite doesn't use the updated Gamertag display system that properly shows discriminators in the tags
I'm surprised they knew how to move. It looked like they were struggling for a good bit.
seeing this in season 4 threw me off
what
Wdym "What," it's season 4 and there are 4 default armor setups
Thats a lot of first timers.
That, or they're going for a specific look.
The one on the left is an HCS skin
i dont even think they were all in the same fireteam
Guy on the right definitely just likes the Recruit look
The Xbox gamertag system is horrendous and I don't know why it hasn't changed. 12 characters and having four numbers following your name is abysmal.
It's a gamertag system from a time long gone
i only have 2 numbers because im cool
isnt that that new system which discord basically had
(which was stupidly changed)
they switched to discord's system so discord was like hey that't not cool and switched to the system xbox use to have
i guess discord's system is most like steam, a username and a display name
And look how they handle it in Discord
I prefer more having a name with a numbers like Xbox does or Discord did before
ive had the same gamertag probably since 360 (with some minor variations like clans etc) but i totally get that
@dreamy stirrup what is your position in 343 industrys?
It's alright if you don't want to answer
I was just wondering
Someone remind me to do a funny ragdoll compliation for show-and-tell, I got a bunch on one of the new maps.
I dont know what it is about this remake of Waterworks but if you're anywhere near a wall or a floor and you die to an explosive your Spartan starts doing the worm.
yeah but why
that must mean you are using the default armor
well not u the guy who posted
Some people like Calvilino. Its a clean skin, wont lie.
I wouldn't tag 343 devs lol
yeah but nothing else on it
When we gonna get pirate mjolnir
cutlasses, powered peglegs, and eye patches for all.
After COG armor
We cant be out of Fractures, we gotta have at least one or two more.
We got vikings, romans, and knights in MCC, lets get pirates next.
Once I find my controller i'm joining tonight's BTB session
We got samurai. Where's my pirate vs ninja.
Okay, that would be sick
I kind of want cowboys too
Buck already has armor
Only if we get actual leather holsters.
Browncoat-class MJLONIR when.
Because a MJOLNIR Cowboy Hat would look a little goofy
Mark IV first then other cores
We already got santa hat.
I think MK IV is the inevitable next canon core.
who cares it'll be fun
Oh, MS rolled out the new dashboard to Xbox One too
I'm not lol
TBH, it would be cool if we eventually got a Destiny style bit where everything old is new again.
One armor core for everything, MK IV through VII
Don't let your hangups get in the way of fun
GEN2 core or bust
Seeker returns.
50 dollar bundle.
STONKS.
Hell, I'd buy it.
Yeah, all I'm saying is it'd look a little silly
Sill want cosplay cardbaord armor too
a
But that's fine
then how the pic
yeah no one is buying it for 50
You'd be surprised considering how many people Ive seen wearing the new stuff from this weeks store.
we lost, that was the end game pic
GEN2 "Greatest hits" pack; Goblin, Seeker, Legionnaire, and Breaker.
And how many people in Magpie's 5k subscriber "drip or drown" were rockin the stuff from last weeks.
Yoroi is a good core so not surprised
no one being 343 making significantly less from selling it for 50
significant may not be right, but they wouldn't be making as much
Anyone else having problems finding a match? Been waiting an hour
Ooh and armor designed to give the appearance of a zoot suit or a flapper dress
lol the moment I ask it pops
Iβd be very happy
Question, if I kill someone in Infinite who is sword lunging at me with my shotgun, and I die, is that because of ping? Shouldn't I have stopped them from killing me and got a bulltrue?
Chilling on halo
It can be either. It's not ping, but you can pop the medal and still die. That was true in earlier games too.
Do you guys think that the color scheme power suit hero is a reference to samus
Ping is when I backsmack a guy and get a showstopper in reach and then it tried to go into the animation for them assassinating me.
It's the same colors as samus
yeah, the power suit in the metroid games comes in a variety of colours. And usually changes in game several times.
I'm sorry but I have to rant here because I'm sick of it. Despite me for over a year now sending it problem tickets I can't anymore.
All Xbox issues.
Starting off with Variable refresh rate on Xbox completely messing up the frame pacing on infinite, causing it to not reach a stable 60 or 120 ever with it turned on. When turning off Variable refresh rate, it'll hold a stable 120 or but face the same frame timing issues on 60 which causes stuttering. Also with Variable turned off and a stable 120, once you load into a btb map that lowers your frames or any possible drop in arena maps, a stable 120 goes completely out the window. It'll drop to about 80-90 frames consistency, even on maps where if you restarted your game, it would be a stable 120 again. Basically the best experience offered on console currently for consistency is 60 frames with Variable refresh rate turned off and refresh rate set to 60, not 120.
I hit the drive thru after my shift today and when the clerk handed me my reciept he was explaining to a woman in one of the cars behind me how combos work.
and it was new information for her.
You'd think that Halo on Xbox would be the smoothest game on there but it's actually like the roughest game that makes me switch eternal settings on my Xbox everything I boot it up just so it can run smoothly
I didn't get a metal either time, so I don't know what that means lol
What xbox do you play on
Series X
Huh
Maybe she was new to Western culture
How did you get bulltrue if you didn't get a medal? You're contradicting yourself
or earth
What I'm saying is I did the thing that would normally get the bulltrue. If you read in my orginal statement, it said, "Shouldn't I have stoped them from kiling me and got a bulltrue?"
Emphisis on "Shouldn't I have" and "got a bulltrue"
I killed them as they lunged at me, but we both die and I got no metal.
But recharge is right halo is a pretty western thing
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Okay, I wonder why I didn't get the bull true metal then, that's odd.
That wasn't about halo.
I've actually gotten bulltrue for shooting sword users who were attacking other players
I guess me not getting the bulltrue was because the game didn't see them dying before I did or something.
That's sick
That looks like a good time.
it was
What was it
worlds
steve and jen were there and here they are doing the trolli shooting range thingy
? What's worlds
its the first image for the info blog for htis years' worlds https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/halowc2023
The Halo World Championship returns to Seattle, WA! Join us this October 13-15 for a full-on Halo-Fest! From the high-stakes HCS action to the Halo Community Stage, there will be something for every Halo fan to enjoy! Watch your favorite pro teams duke it out for $1,000,000, meet Halo Devs and Creators, and see all [β¦]
the end of competition year lan event. Halo World Championships
I just wanna have that needler in my room
Oh okay that's kool
then buy it
The Nerf LMTD Halo Needler blaster captures the look of the blaster from the Halo video game franchise! Imagine yourself as one of the Banished or Covenant and get ready to battle the UNSC! This Nerf dart blaster recreates the blaster's distinctive design with flexible needles that light up when you grip the handle! Fi
hundo bucks
ez
Listen. Buying and having are two different things haha
just have money 
Yeah
I feel like the needler is probably the most iconic weapon
Sent it another problem ticket. I think that's my 9th one now. I'm sure I'll get the same reply back that they will look into it again. I'm sure another year will pass that it doesn't get fixed again.
In halo? It's probably the most unique. Especially in ce
Yeah, for sure.
plasma pistol = just stunning weapon
plasma rifle = standard energy gun
UNSC weapons all have common video game counterparts
Needler = shoots a bunch of tiny piece of straw that explode when you get enough of them together which can really hurt you if you do it wrong
pink spikes, gotta stick out- and in
Not saying there weren't other similar game weapons before (there might have been), but it's certainly the most out of the box.
Rest in piece old distruptor. It was unique
not really a bunch of things will blank out the enemy's phone
and tazers exist irl.
Nothing else in halp did overtime damage directly to a spartan that I know of
In Halo lol
in infinite alone you've got the ravagers secondary fire for dps
hey guys
anyone have node scripts that make bots drive?
i've seen some scripts but they're too confusing for my pea brain
anyone wanna chill and play sum team slayer dm me
Yeah but I was very specific on how I said it. Nothing else does overtime damage directly to a spartan. One that sticks with you on a single target.
If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:
#lfg-competitive β For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social β For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other β For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-espaΓ±ol β Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categorΓa de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams β To help you find a team or secure some scrims
Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.
For this server to be the cornerstone of all Halo games Iβm surprised itβs not that active
But in other Halos like Halo 5, forunner weapons track targets and the new distruptor explodes when it hits a target enough so yeah idk
i got a question
for custom games in halo ifninite, do you bring your fireteam with you?
im so used to infinite bruh, what button settings do yall recommend for halo 5, i feel like a noob again playing warzone lol
play with your feet
Then you can use one controller with your hands and one with your feet and as long as you've got two xboxes with gold accounts take everyone by surprise with your solo tag team
hey guys how do you add bots to an object list?
i just found out with my friend no need to tell, you cant
I will say this: the shock rifle is tough to use. I need more practice with it.
give us the OG menus for MCC
hello,was just wondering if anybody could assist me with an issue i have for MCC,not sure where else to go as xbox live support wasnt much help
If I stream infinite for 15min on twitch am I able to get earth unicorn?
I do not belive that is a current promotion
yeah it ended on Dec 30th 2022
Did the lightning unicorn come out yet?
???
Can my teammates stop going afk mid match
Literally will forever be stuck in plat 1
Does anyone know how to make gravity lifts go higher in forge
Did you try placing one grav lift on another?
Chat chat is this a W or an L
Guys I got a great idea
Just the Skewer
But the spike is a massive needler crystal
Iβm so tired
its already in the game, its called the volatile skewer
What if the skewer fired kebabs
Fine then. Needle shotgun
Well that was actually a discord promotion for some reason
Had to have like 2 or 1 viewer watching your discord stream
But yeah it's over now
They should make a game based on the mona lisa ship instead of an ODST game
They as in 343
Or instead of a BR
He says, as if 343 has ever stated that they are working on such projects
What channel do i ask questions about halo infinite forge?
Best I can do is #lfg-forge
No idea
Depends on the day or time of day really. Some days it's super active, some days it's active occasionally, and some days it's slow.
wouldn't #1075989764026675210 work?
Perhaps
hi everyone!
im doin good
That good
Why do you have 2004 in your name?
Hello
I no idea
You were born in 2004 werenβt you
Baby
Around that time, I was still in high school getting hyped up over Halo 2 being released.
Man I even when I was bor. In 2009 I still felt nostalgia from play old halo games
back pain now?
I was in Iraq in 2009 
Whenever I have to carry scrubs.
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2005/2006 and 2007 for me.

The old halo days where you stood outside a GameStop line on midnight releases. Infinite doesnβt even come close
Actually pretty sad
gaming in general doesn't come close anymore
because the companies got greedy
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true
A lot of you also grew up
The last midnight release for a Halo game I attended was back in 2010 for Halo Reach. I got the game pre-ordered because I wanted that recon helmet.
Hello. How are you?
Sitting outside waiting for a game to release got obsoleted by an ever changing and evolving world.
It also sucked to do, but nobody remembers the sucking part, especially not when you can leverage your nostalgia for cheap, shallow critique.
One of the best midnight releases ever was when I was waiting for Black Ops 2. We had some people cooking lots of sausages on a mini grill and talking about how good we were in MW3
I mostly remember being cold and 'excited' for a game I likely wasn't going to get to play that night anyways.
Either way, I prefer the now. I can get sloshed on a first night release with people I know, and I don't have to be cold and annoyed by people.
I wait for 5 and wars 2 on steam
I disagree man, games today objectively arenβt that good so itβs not really a fair convo on how weβd react to newer games that were just as good, thereβs literally none to have that talk to begin with lol
That's... Not objective, but alright.
Like, literally by definition, it can't be objective. It's a highly varied entertainment medium.
Ties perfectly with this point and I didnβt even read it yet, this is why that convo canβt exist
Ugh.
Completely agree times changed so no one needs to stand in lines anymore but thereβs very few games that could replicate the same hype we felt back then
Not because we got older though, newer games generally arenβt that good
Oh, no, it's 100% getting older.
More responsibilities, less free time, more understanding and concerns about money (Hopefully, if you're smart), a world that's on fire.
There is so much more important things going on in everyone's lives and games are just another medium meant to distract. They became less important because there's more noise.
Nah, Halo objectively gotten worse even if you gave an 8 year old kid the remote theyβd rather play older Halo games I bet π
Subjectively.
Damm
I vastly prefer playing 5 and Infinite over 2 and 3.
Hell, I disliked playing them over other games when they came out.
I mean donβt have the argument with me, argue with the thousands of YouTubers that universally agreed infinite was the worst Halo and gave millions of valid points
I really don't care what opinions nostalgia grifters have.
They're there to sell you a product, and that product is their opinion. They have a vested interest in follower counts and establishing opinion cults.
Just so happens that they're good at selling that product to a group of aging people who defined their franchise as being better on the basis of being the last of a dying breed of game.
interesting
So youβre saying Halo games pre Reach was better? Iβd argue most people would universally agree old Halo games were better
No.
Like 90%
And I don't know where you got me saying "Halo games pre Reach were better".
Both an exaggeration and a point of proof for people not having taste.
If old Halo was better that proves my point that Halo gotten worse not cause weβre older but theyβre objectively worse π
But they aren't better.
They aren't even better compared to their primary competition in terms of graphics, story, dialogue, gameplay improvements.
At this point, you're just abusing the word 'objective'.
That is beyond false.
I had something I wanted to say regarding clockwork orange and its eye clamps scene, but the moment's passed.
At least with current halo we actually get context behind the main characters in the games
Abusing the word 'objective' actually really irks me. People don't appreciate that word enough. They add it on like some sort of Redditor-tier 'gotcha' like it's an extra bullet point that somehow supports their argument just by being included.
hi
That annoys me as well
Oh yes halo 5 had amazing multiplayer
Add in microstransactions and paywalls for classic armor and it balances the scale, Iβd argue the cons outweigh the pros
That's what does it for you?
Meanwhile older Halos were the complete opposite
That's a hell of a lot to leverage on one fractional component of a larger whole.
$120.
Obviously thereβs a lot more that goes into it but thatβs an hours long conversation lol
Actually, wait, how much was XBLG back in 2009?
And the older halos didnβt have paywall behind game content?
The only thing bungie halos did objectively better than 343 halos was release with more content at launch.
Like $8/month, rihgt
Not as much as the horrendous system we have today, i canβt even remember older halos having micro transactions if they even had one π
so someone convinently doesn't remember map packs?
Yeah, and that's something I outright wouldn't deny. I'd disagree with the amount of care I have about it-I enjoyed Infinite just fine well before Forge.
Facts
They used to lock people out of certain playlists
loot boxes, virtual currency etc. doesnβt equate to a one time DLC, two completely different things π
But micro transactions are bad?
If yβall agree older Halo was better how are we arguing lol, my point originally was itβs not because we got older
The loot boxes argument is such a bad argument
Older halos were not better
Damm that sad
older halos = better
Not a single person arguing with you has agreed with you on older Halo being better. In fact, two have outright stated that no, we disagree with you.
Finally some based responses, like what π
I think you need to understand that people will not have the same opinion as you and that you are not the arbiter of 'correct' opinions
What does the older halos do thatβs better than the newer ones? Content? Nope. Netcode? Nope.
there better
Forge? nope
That would be me. I'm the arbiter of correct opinions. #bringbackcasualfridays.
PVE game modes? Nope
old halo more fun then new
Sandbox? Nope
people have different opinions
Dont be rude
I don't think Jules asked either.
Clearly I pinged him.
I much prefer infinite to a lot of older stuff, though five is amazing
Thereβs nothing that the old halos do thatβs better than the new ones.
Except for the aformentioned launch content problem.
Aside from release with more content
Better story?
Not even close
How about halo ce ?
If you're going to sit there and tell me Halo 3 had a better story I'm just not even going to dignify it with a response.
Lazy writing on characters
i agree
halo 2 had the best story of olde older halo games
halo 3 had good story
Their argument is good graphics = good game pretty much, nothing else is validated π
Marty couldn't write his way out of a paper bag if the pen was holding it shut.
Though 4 is just wow
You still havenβt provided anything that supports your argument that makes old halos better
old halo is more FUN
Eh.
New halo is more FUN
i have more fun in infinite for me
I like my guy not having moon shoes on, thanks.
Iβm trying to avoid the βwhat makes a Halo game goodβ argument cause thatβs completely subjective but if you lined up millions of people most would say old halo was better
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Halo 5 is an abysmal game, in terms of Halo. Do I hate it? No, but I honestly wouldnβt have played it with enthusiasm if not for Nathan Fillion. Infinites story isnβt bad, itβs miles better, but 2/3 are the better games in terms of world building and story.
HAlo 5 is a great halo game
What makes it an abysmal game
l guess people have opinions about old halo it have been good or not
and the best sandbox of any halo game
and my favourite game mode out of any halo game, warzone
Only basing it off of Nathan Fillion is basically just going into a medical exam after shooting yourself in the gut with a 20 gauge and expecting a clean bill of health.
forge is obviously beat by halo infinite but its sandbox allows it to do certain things infinite cannot
Straying from the narrative, lack of focus on the objective, etc. it didnβt fit halo, but itβs not a βbad gameβ in terms of execution itself, if that makes sense.
What narrative were they straying from?
Infinite has the greatest sandbox donβt get me wrong, yβall think I hate new halo games but iβm simply pointing out that Older Halo was overall better
I agree bro but they some people donβt agree that all let face it
Honestly, if there's any issue I have with 5/Infinite Forge, it's that the skill floor is significantly higher.
infinite greatest sandbox? 5 takes the cake for sure I would say
Facts
I'd honestly kill for a sandbox that tied Infinite and 5's together.
imagine being in a mantis on zeta halo
have any of you guys actually played old halo games on an actual xbox with friends?
not online
I meant newer Halo in general has the better sandbox, but thatβs probably the only good thing about new Halo
Yes. It was couch co-op Halo 2.
I was not impressed.
ce?
Was the next day.
If liking art is subjective, my reasoning for enjoying the game being just him is fine. If you enjoy it, great, I think itβs a dog water Halo game, but I like Buck so I donβt hate it.
also, no gatekeeping or 'not true halo fan if you didnt start at x'
I just think it's an absolutely absurd hill to die on.
Like, specifically Nathan Fillion.
I also much prefer the shooting in infinite than older shooting mechanics
That's just baffling to me.
What narrative were they straying from in 5?
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infinite does retain a lot of the crispness of 5 in terms of shooting
What's funny is that I literally started from the beginning for Halo games, they just never struck me as all that impressive or worthy of being put on a pedestal.
The one set in 3/4. It wasnβt needed. Clearly they got the point by correcting the ship with Infinite.
Which is?
You say corrected, I say crashed the bus into the Potomac.
Correcting the ship with infinite?
There were no survivors.
I am annoyed at 343's constant sweeping under the rug of storylines
This is completely subjective unless you want my personal take, but if you take 100 hundred people most would say older halo is better by far
Iβve liked him longer than youβve been alive so Iβll gladly die on the hill of Capt. Reynolds.
Keep on exploring the created and the effects on the galaxy
First ad populum of the night.
bungie is better than 343 in my opinion
keep on with the didact
... Firefly debuted 5 years after I was born.
Felt the didact was set to return.
Like, what the hell sort of scraping for an insult was that.
Janus keys, absolute record
You could... just not do that
ce had online?
I mean by all means, fall on that sword.
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And? Heβs been in numerous 90s shows, including two guys and a girl, long before that.
@fickle drift Iβm still waiting for the answer on the narrative that started in 3/4?
gtg
So what
Or I could and not care what you or anyone else thinks?
What makes a Halo game good IMO is gameplay, storyline, art concept, graphics in that order
I mean, you can't write ANYTHING you want, there's still guidelines
Read the game summary and go from there Jules.
Really? Thereβs a guideline on why I can like a game in here? Mind blowing information.
How about you answer the question?
The whole "I liked him before you were born!"
Damn Santanas ruthless π i was the nice one in this debate
1 year. Unless you were a fan of him since Ordeal in the Arctic or Strange and Rich, which would be absurd considering he had relatively small roles in both.
I donβt think this chat wants a book on the entire destruction of Cortanaβs character.
Itβs not a debate if you havenβt brought up any valid points
How was it a destruction?
4 did an amzing job with cortana
She was turning into her creatorβ¦
Or a book on why people who say it's a 'character destruction' don't know Cortana's character very well at all.
Clearly I did but Valid is subjective to you I guess, not being rude
I can't wait to read halo outcasts to see if i learn anything about the created
You didnβt
Immediately proves my point π
You have yet to provide an argument on why the old halos are better than the new ones
Factual statement. They sprouted off that it was weird Iβd like a game for a certain person, and theyβre 26 and Iβve been a fan since the early 90s, I donβt need to explain my reasoning or random things. Trust me my comment was me being nice, cause you wouldnβt want my real opinions.
So itβs not a debate until you bring it up
I've heard mixed things. Without getting into spoiler territory explicitly, because it was spoiled for me, I've heard two seperate people be annoyed at different interpretations of what was apparently the same thing.
You're just bringing it up to be a pedant for the singular purpose of trying to lord something stupid over me.
Spoilers not go here though. I'll probably make the discussion thread at some point
It's pathetic.
Iβm glad they went with the halo 5 art style
When I say I did and you say I didnβt, thatβs quite literally the definition of subjective so you literally keep proving my point π again not being rude
I'm not gonna lie, my fingers have been crossed that we'll someday get alternative geo for that.
Buuuut I'm also not expecting it because that would be a significant change in profile.
Energy shields too
How am I proving your point? You have not provided an argument.
The way it handles
I honestly can't compare 5 Banshees and Infinite Banshees. Haven't played Infinite with a gamepad.
I imagine they handle differently, but I wouldn't know anything in particular about that.
Halo 5 you have a lot of control
3 had the best banshee
and the flip is actually useful
That still sounds pretty similar.
Everything in 5 was great
Slow, ponderous, nonresponsive, had a dodgeroll measured in eons.
Yeah that one will be a not really... I'd definitely say reach's banshee was better than 3's
Hell, ODST's Banshee was better than 3's, lmao.
Just to remind everyone here
That the Mario. Bros franchise has been going on for 15 years

Infinite objectively had the better banshee like it was specifically designed to be the best but 3 just felt the most natural
Idk
There he goes with the objectively
that is not objective
Lmao
and i dont like infinite's banshee a lot
Eh, I'd honestly give Reach the best Banshee award, but that's mostly because the damn thing was a flying tank that just did not die in a reasonable timeframe.
It's a rare day where I'll actually give Reach anything props.
5
Didnβt it have limited boost, hated that and everything they added that too
WZFF kinda ruined my perception of 5's Banshee.
Mostly because it just gets utterly mulched by literally anything sneezing on it.
Or at least, it feels that way.
I think the only thing I really miss from any vehicle was using the Mantis on Ragnarok in 4.
I'd make it last the entire match without dying while making sure the enemy never once got the flag.
hanniblal variants..
Which banshee are we talking here
Ehhhh, hit or miss. Hannibal Wasp was kind of eh, but Hannibal Mantis and Scorp were both beasts.
Hannibal wasp eh? WHaaaat?
PHAETON HELIOS
Mantis was a hit or miss Im actually glad they removed it, it was slow asf
that thing is a beast!
And easy to kill
Most people didn't know how to use it. It's still decently fast.
The Scorpion is slow and easy to kill
Problably could've used a utility movement option though.
Whatβs youβre point
I like having missiles that work.
Instead of weird landmine things.
The repeater's great, though, I got no complaints about that.
The best vehicle in Halo strictly in multiplayer was the gauss warthog in 3
You definitely didn't know how to use it then
I made good use of the ion field missiles/bombs
Suits me fine. ONI Wasp had brrrrrrrrrrrt too, so it also just sounds better.
You can wreck with the ion field bombs better
But that doesn't go brrrrrrrrrrrrt.
Throw them right, wreck anyuthing
NGL though, I'm super glad I get weird luck with getting Hannibal Scorp cards.
Seems like they're the cards I get the most.
I'd honestly rather a Mantis, but not because of anything about its guns.
It's because Zeta's covered with little rocks and sticks and stuff and in a perfect world, the Mantis could just walk over it.
That's like, the one huge fictional benefit of mech walkers
Not caring about terrain nearly as much. Can't high center something that walks.
And the music
Iβm curious what yβall would do to fix Halo since you know a lot about Halo
That music is almost insulting on Legendary, lmao.
It's this super awesome steady track but you kinda can't do that because Legendary vehicles are paper
From a lorenerd perspective, I'd have actually followed through with the damn Created arc.
That's honestly the biggest issue I yet have. The rest is common stuff like upping Infinite's sandbox and implementing a custom/matchmaking game side loadout system for custom games purposes.
Loadouts are a dirty word, but Reach's implementation of them as a game settings only side mechanic was kino.
I'd just have them be more of a custom game/special playlist deal
damm you guy know halo too much ngl l canβt keep up with it
Iβm trying to keep up too cause I stopped taking Halo seriously after reach but I completely agree with @candid solar points
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Oh right
Continue halo using the halo 5 model. Boom. Fixed
Career rank
They need to tone down the micro transactions all the way down and honestly Chief shouldβve died in 3 or still asleep
Can't go back in time I'm afraid.
No..
βChief shouldβve diedβ
Make the microtransactions better yeah, theres ways to do
but should have died..? why no
They keep reusing Chief like a dirty Napkin, after infinites storyline itβs clear they donβt know what theyβre doing
Though, I actually never was a fan of Chief-centric stuff. I think he should've stayed on ice, and Halo should've been about the armor-the Spartans-being the face of the universe.
Establish them as the brand, with Chief being sort of a narrative 'exemplar'.
Infinite doesn't do much wrong with John in infinite?
Well, except for Escharum.
Chief dying wouldβve made his reclaimer arc in the old halos irrelevant
I'm sorry, but that whole Escharum speech is just... Whew.
Halo Reach story is a perfect example that you donβt need Chief at every single corner of the franchise, I actually prefer a storyline like that again
you dont like John respecting escharum as a warrior?
β He was just a soldierβ π
John's diplomat arc is something that needs to be further exploredthough
There's a difference between acknowledging your opponent as a dedicated warrior and failing to acknowledge that he is a savage, brutal (kek) butcher who has no right getting respected by his human opponents.
Nothing inherently wrong but nothing inherently new, they just have an entire Halo universe they could use instead of Chief constantly
Chief was the most prevalent and iconic in 3, I could probably read you the entire script π
It's like, sure, I respect Gregor Clegane's character in terms of being a brutal, grim, determined warrior, but he's also a degenerate savage who relishes in the slaughter of helpless innocents masquerading as a knight.
Escharum's an old man looking for a way out, but at the end of the day, no matter how 'rightous' his thought process was for his side, he's still the enemy, and by human standards, he's an utter monster that doesn't deserve to have his words respected on his deathbed, but put down like a sick dog.
You respect a monster's intelligence and drive, but you'd be a fool to count monsters as men.
@candid solar They donβt hire people like you that knows the lore down to its core but theyβll hire people that puts spartan colors behind a paywall
343 is going completely backwards
βA super soldier β that a way to say about master chief
Bro a he super soldier you understand what I mean ?
Master Chiefs story stopped after 3 for me, I refuse to accept the horse crap storyline they put constantly put Chief in
They should do an entire campaign reboot after 3 and Iβll take that over literally all campaigns after Halo 3
Technically, Chief would be a Super Sailor, not a Super Soldier.
I would honestly just straight up tap out and leave the franchise.
Iβm aware heβs a super soldier
Just find a new muse.
Imagine wanting to retell the same story over and over again
No thanks, modern media retells enough for me already.
Can never be me
Thatβs what I canβt stand infinite
Basically a retelling of CE
but worse
Man, 3 and reach had the best armor
I honestly don't mind Infinite in its very own small vacuum storywise, but it's also kind of like eating your second favorite food because your first favorite was closed to me.
Like, I love kung pao chicken, but what I wanted was chicken carbonara.
They removed all of the interesting characters to make it all about Chief
Yep.
Iβm glad we agree on something new halo is doing worse π
As I said, in its vacuum, I don't mind it. I take it out of that vacuum, it bothers me.
Infinite story couldβve been a prologue/dlc
And frankly, I was super invested in the MP Storyline and will be bellyaching about it being axed until I own cows to bring home.
It was vastly more interesting than the jolly green giant and his new vault suited buddy and AI replacement goldfish.
Spartan Locke campaign would be nice.
Were it so easy
There are people to this day that puts infinite in their top 5
Iβve never been more disappointed as a halo fan
I donβt even care much for characters past Reach cause the games foundation was already awful
Too bad it's my go to and basically my top Halo from a gameplay standpoint.
5
2
CE
4
3
Being actively the focused game and having an FOV above 80 is a hell of a factor in my enjoyment of a Halo game.
God no not 5
lm aware of that part
You think 3 is the bestβ¦
Sandbox 5 is the best but 5 overall Jesus Christ π
I don't particularly like listing Halo games because it leaves out the granularity in feelings towards specific games.
You still donβt have an argument for 5 and why itβs not the best
Like, I vastly prefer 5's campaign in terms of pretty much every factor, but the Xbox only, no MKB support, and forced low FOV status both drive it down to a #2 slot overall for me, because I just can't get all the gameplay enjoyment I know I could out of it.
So preference
Iβm a console head till I die, so none of those things mean anything to me
And even if it was, I'd likely still prefer Halo Infinite as an overall product, because I genuinely just love how slick Infinite's equipment is for the gameplay.
Grapple is just, Chef's kiss.
Almost everything they added I was against for starters
Cool
Never liked equipment outside of power ups
I think most people would universally agree 5 was the tipping point in the downfall of Halo
Most people that universally agree cannot provide sound arguments on why itβs bad
so isnβt it just a preference for you too? you donβt have an argument as to why 5 is the best
iβll give you a hint tho, itβs not
I do have an argument
no if you have too
Reach was hated at first cause it was different now one of the best Halos, 4 was also different but no one like the advanced stuff, 5 doubled down and killed Halo
It has a better sandbox, most content and more ambitious story than the rest
Halo 2 was hated back in 04
Still want my Halo2sucks t shirt.
2 for 3 iβll give you that
I hope they didn't all end up in a landfill.
Whatβs wrong with the story?
Thank you that was his only comeback for the longest ngl π
Not a valid argument
Halo 5 also didn't really double down on much of anything 4 did. It removed unpopular loadouts entirely, it rebalanced multiplayer to the Halo 2 equal starts standard people were asking for, it emphasized feeling like a supersoldier in gameplay.
Provide an argument before saying that please.
The base game mode that was heavily advertised on launch was literally equal starts AR+Magnum on a Midship remake.
Halo 2 had some dissent based on the ending and the arbiter, but nothing compared to the disdain that 5 had and still has...
And just like Halo 2, Halo 5's was undeserved.
Halo 4 was very experimental that influenced a lot of the ideas 5 had
Influenced, but I'd hardly call actively changing most of the mechanics so utterly as to be considered widely a return to balance form a 'doubling down'.
To me it plays like a modern CE
That's like, a diagonal shift backwards from Halo 4/Reach/3.
What did I just join
Hell.
nothing is objectively wrong with the story itβs all subjectiveβ¦ preference of each person. for me the story was so lame i couldnβt finish it and just had to watch youtube videos on how it ended
Careful youβll be hit with a thatβs not a valid argument π
As I have said before, I do not hate any of the games, but I think the story/art changes/poor advertising campaign are all justified reasons to dislike the game. I don't think the dissent of the game series as a whole has much to do with the game, moreso that younger audiences have moved away from it and there's a lot more competition in the MP realm than earlier titles. That said, I do think 5 is the worst of the games, simply for how they handled Cortana.
Theyβre just justified if youβre wrong on those subjects
Amusingly I like it most for how it treated Cortana, lmao.
Unpopular opinion: Halo 4 had the best soundtrack. I also preferred Chief's armor design in Halo 4 and 5. It makes no sense why they reverted it in infinite aside to make the fans wet their pants.
For example, the advertisement campaign had no connection to the plot of the story. A lot of people thought it did.
TBF, his look in Infinite is pants-dropping gorgeous. I like 4/5, but... Whew. They made it beefcake.
Like, yeah, yeah, bad because pandering, but man does it look solid.
Given art is subjective, there's no right or wrong here...that said, by and large a huge portion of the fanbase dislikes the game (at least the outspoken portion) so.... its a failure as a product, even if some find the game to be great.
How should they of handled cortana?
It's a shame that Master Chief in Halo Infinite was accompanied by an airheaded AI and a crying janitor.
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Is Logic Plague an automatic disqual? Please tell me begging for Logic Plague is an automatic disqual.
Chiefs armor and halo armor in general is something I completely agree is subjective. Some like bulky defined armor others like simplistic
Left it as it was in 4.
Which was what? Kill her off?
Yes.
Yes
Lmao
What I find amusing is that's honestly what I would've done instead of 5, but I still really like 5's actions regardless of that.
Ah yes, explain her importance to the mantle of responsibility in 4 and then kill her off. Great plot
For me chiefs armor in 3 is the best looking. Simple and the lighting was arguably the best in any Halo game
Either Cortana doesn't come back in Halo 5 or Infinite should have continued her story just after Halo 5.
But we didn't get to see that happen because infinite had a terrible campaign.
LITERALLY JUST
SHOW ME A CREATED CITYSCAPE, I WANT TO SEE THE GILDED CAGE UNDER THE MANTLE
Iβm completely down for a campaign reboot after 3 cause I canβt accept any of 343s storylines
How does killing cortana off make the story better?
I think it's not to make the story better. It's just to make the character more redeeming considering her development suffered after Halo 3.
Wrong
Oh god here we go
Cortana barely had development to begin with
Nah nah not this again
4 actually fleshed her out
Just let it go
In the Halo trilogy, I found her to be quirky and cool. In Halo 4, she sobs too much. And Halo 5, she goes, "Hey Chief, I'm a bad girl now."
I'm confused about why that happened.
This is why I canβt have discussions with people.
Devil's advocate, for most people who don't pay a ton of attention, it seems more consistent to keep her dead. I wouldn't have gone with it personally strictly because of that alone.
But that said, if I were to bring her back, Halo 5's how I would've done it.
So cater to the ones that arenβt actual fans of halo?
What else is new?
You right
Oh, so if we want her to stay dead we have no attention span and missed vital details? Alright.
You lack a lot of details
Didn't say you lacked an attention span. Just a lack of attention to detail.
I cry everyday in my house about that fact.
And 'you' is not the singular 'you'.
Because once again, why would they emphasize her importance to the mantle of responsibility and then kill her off
You obviously werenβt playing the story to understand the plot of it
You realize there's other ways they could have handled it, right?
Pick up a book or a comic sometime.
Oh damn
What does other ways of handling do with my argument? You think killing her off would make sense when it doesnβt from a plot standpoint.
... Are you seriously 'oh damn'ing something that barely even constitutes the bare minimum of a comeback?
oh
It does if killing her off led to a different type of plotline that could have been explained. Which is possible. But I am sorry, you apparently don't have the imagination to see beyond what 343 gave you.
this why l donβt share opinions with someone
Opinions are stupid unless they're mine.
Just do it and don't care too much
hell nah
Lmao this is hilarious
I offer opinions, but I'm not a bad guy.
And you donβt follow along to stories
Bro giving him that sneak uppercut π
Guess I'm reinstalling Broforce.
This is the Discord discussion equivelant of some guy in a tank top screeching world star in the background.
If you say so. You're the only correct one here. π€·ββοΈ
Not true. @candid solar is also correct
Before you know it you need 50 reasons to validate your argument and those reasons arenβt validated π
And that says more than you know.
Give me an essay why, right now π‘
You should problably just outright say what it is then.
Correct. You get context and reasoning behind his comments. Not baseless arguments.
It's disingenuous to not voice what it says, if you're uncertain if the other party knows. Bad manners.
Insert that's bait gif here.
They hired Grim and Haruspis who, collectively, probably know more about the lore than everyone who has ever graced this server
Lmao
Yes, you posted bait.
Provide 3 examples to your thesis statement or whatever English teachers said π
Gee, just harpoon flattery towards me, why don't you.
Anyways, why don't we move on from this measuring contest that nobody is going to win
just got quite very quiet
cortuna
Peanut Butter or Pumpkin Bread?
Whiskey.
I forgot that I was going to have three shots for my 26th birthday because frankly, I spent most of the day working out instead.
How does the Master Chief pee? Is it an iron man based suit filtration system?
Spartans are catheterized in their suits.
good question
Hmmm
The urine is then recycled into drinkable water via filtration system, with the castoff matter being purged into a filter, presumably.
Pee into Pepsi conversion in the suit. Although, they taste the same even without it. π₯
yoo i can finally drink my own piss
God can we not
we now have a way to survive the apocalypse
Y E S
This man has never seen Bear Grylls.
that brings me to the next question, when do spartans eat food
Dune actually has a suit function where sweat converts into water
When they have the chance and are hungry.
That's likely something MJOLNIR also does, though I can't recall if it's outright stated. Given its status as essentially a human shaped medical APC, and Dune idea bleed into Sci fi, it would not surprise me at all.
Even then MJOLNIR's still supposed to be actively and autonomously climate-controlled.
hold up it got quiet
yup
I donβt like it
That's what happens when someone randomly says a bunch of dumb lore things.
From someone that recently joined assuming the server was super family friendly that was surprising π
your first mistake was making a discord account
Had discord for like 5 years π seen the worst of the worst
fair
Idk the boundaries with this server tho but Iβm slowly learning
I here because l want talk about halo ce how good it is but now l donβt want to share about it anymore
I forgot about Skrewball's aftertaste.
Oh. Damn, I guess I should've got cranberry sauce.
CE wasn't the same after they added online play. You just can't elbow someone through the internet or toss your drink at them.
Iβm aware of that
ouch LOL

