halo-discussion

[ruby lake]

oh.

ill have to pay 120$ in total!✨

i

really don't know how to feel about this

[west rock]

You can say you're not happy about it. That is allowed

[gray merlin]

New “update:”

• “fuel rod” gun
• nerfed shotguns
• nerfed shock rifle
• nerfed strafing
• Credits now ONLY buyable
• Battle passes now go away FOREVER

[crystal iron]

Damn a lot of nerfs

They made the shotgun even worse at being a close range weapon

[edgy forum]

Wow aren’t you the sourest person ever

Come on guys you’re overreacting, it’ll be alright

[west rock]

People are allowed to be displeased with an update even if you're not.

The fact that this new pass goes away forever if you dont buy it is definitely a slap in the face to a lot of people.

[west rock]

Someone needs to remind them what range shotguns are best at.

Because I have a feeling this change to the bulldog is gonna destroy Infection

[balmy wedge]

A gametype that's already under immense scrutiny.

[west rock]

I get that they want to get people invested into Infinite, but this is gonna do the opposite for some people.

It might just push them towards MCC instead.

[civic sundial]

I'd rather play with the balance changes before judging them

[west rock]

I mean Mint Blitz, one of the best Halo players in the community right now, even said he doesn't like the idea of removing the headshot multiplier from the bulldog for the sole purpose of ranked mode balancing because making it a consistent 3 shot kill could break Infection.

That added TTK basically makes all the difference in that mode.

[civic sundial]

The game isn't balanced around Infection in the first place

[edgy forum]

Yeah like the update hasn’t even come out and we’re all judging it too harsh

[west rock]

It shouldnt be balanced solely around ranked either

[edgy forum]

What kind of logic does that make sense????

It’s like looking at a movie trailer say Transformers One and thinking it’s gonna suck but when you watch the actual film it’s pretty good

[west rock]

Yeah because movie trailers and balance patches for video games are totally comparable.

[civic sundial]

Like, Halo's main gamemodes for multiplayer are the team based arena modes. I do agree it shouldn't be solely balanced around ranked but let's be real here, Infection is not a mode that has allot of sway in how the game has been balanced

[west rock]

Infection is one of the most popular non-ranked modes in the game besides Social Slayer.

[civic sundial]

Ok but like, that film was so good and I'm so glad I saw it in cinemas

[west rock]

I think the idea of breaking a weapons balancing across all other gametypes for the sole purpose of catering to the already heavily declining ranked modes is a really bad idea.

[crystal iron]

I’m agreeing with the don’t judge before play but that’s one of the worst comparisons you could ever make lmao

[edgy forum]

It’s true

[crystal iron]

Ok

I just said I agree with you but aight

[edgy forum]

When the first trailer for TF One came out everybody thought it was gonna suck with the terrible humor and presentation (partly half on Paramount’s marketing fault). Then when they actually saw the movie it was entertaining and not bad

[crystal iron]

Yeah but that’s not our fault in that case. That’s their fault for making it look like a kids movie

[edgy forum]

From what I can recall I somewhat can recollect how the trailer was and then in November my friends and I saw it on a streaming service and as a non-Transformers fan it wasn’t that bad. I found it to be good

[crystal iron]

I still agree but like unless a movie trailer spoils the entire thing, it’s still not comparable to a video game trailer imo

Cuz the gameplay you see will be the entire game, so if you can see one bad mechanic, it affects the whole product

I’m not saying that’s the case with the new Infinite update. I don’t think the nerfs will be that bad. The only thing I don’t get is why make a shotgun worse at being a shotgun lmao

[civic sundial]

The idea that an arena shooter should be balanced around an infection mode that is very clearly not intended as a core gamemode is also a really bad idea

[west rock]

Where did I say the game should be balanced around Infection? Please show me.

Please point it out to the class.

[warped yew]

Damn

[celest heron]

the strafe nerf is good.

[west rock]

Just because I said balancing the shotgun around ranked potentially breaks it for Infection doesnt mean they should balance the entire game around Infection

[zealous panther]

50-tier operation sounds like a season 4(?) pass

after halo 6

[keen zephyr]

Are we ever gonna get new maps/modes that aren't taken from custom games with no change at all?

[summer island]

Halo Combat Evolved 🔛 🔝

[shrewd finch]

Most of the nerfs are good (except maybe bulldog). Strafing speed should have been nerfed at launch.

[shrewd finch]

The free pass stays forever though.

Its the same as the old system except the items that would've been in the shop are now in the battlepass at a discounted price (1000 credits instead of whatever crazy price it would be in the store)

[west rock]

The first 20 tiers are free.

The remaining 30 are gone forever.

[shrewd finch]

That's not true, those items get released in the store afterwards

Albeit at a higher price

[west rock]

You still cant get those tiers after the season expires. Being put in the store at a higher price isnt much better considering the store prices are already an extreme rip-off.

[shrewd finch]

if they didn't put it in the pass they would have just put it in the store right away anyways.

its the same as the previous system, execpt the free tiers stay forever and you have a limited time "discount" on premium items

[west rock]

That's illegal in certain countries.

[shrewd finch]

What? How so?

Its an actual discount, they aren't increasing the price and then "discounting" it

[west rock]

In Australia and the UK it's illegal to release items initially at a "discount" and then raise the price later on to create an artificial sense of urgency.

Bethesda almost got sued for pulling a similar stunt with Fallout 76.

[shrewd finch]

I'm pretty sure you mean raising the price and then "discounting " an item, and then lowering the price of an item to its "dicounted" price after the discount

a limited time discount isn't illegal

[west rock]

No I mean exactly what I said

Remember the fiasco with 76's holiday emote bundle?

[shrewd finch]

No, but please tell me more

From doing my own research, its not illegal as they don't officially label it as a discount

[west rock]

I can link you to a reddit thread that breaks the situation down and how it breaks international consumer law.

[shrewd finch]

alright yeah ill take a look

[west rock]

I'll DM you the link, it does a better job than I could because I'm not knowledgeable on international law stuff

[shrewd finch]

So, from what I can see, I don't think it's illegal as long as they don't market it as a discount.

It also might not be illegal since it uses in game currency instead of real money

I still think the new system is better, as it gets rid of the free tier FOMO, and is cheaper than buying from the store.

Though it does introduce FOMO for getting cheaper items through the pass that won't be available later at that same price

[west rock]

Said pass can only be purchased with credits which require real money to obtain

[shrewd finch]

That is true, though I'm not sure it the law would cover that. I agree its practically the same thing.

[west rock]

Either way the fact that it's part of a FOMO pass and will be sold for more later on likely won't hold up in court overseas.

I'd implore Halo Studios to reconsider just on the basis of the potential legal troubles alone.

[shrewd finch]

I would imagine it would be the same as releasing an item and then increasing the prices later, which I don't think is illegal.

Its just marketing it as a discount can be

[coarse dagger]

I'm fairly confident they'll have discussed stuff like this with MS Legal already. It's not anything we need to worry about

[uneven bison]

Mojang got away with the legality of their practices until fairly recently, I doubt MS cares much what the law overseas are unfortunately

Running afoul of consumer protection laws is sadly common, it’s just it doesn’t get enforced

[west rock]

If I'm wrong then that's good, because I'd rather not see the studio get nuked so shortly after its rebranding and shake up in staff before they have a chance to prove themselves.

[shrewd finch]

Yeah I agree, that would be sad.

[west rock]

I can be extremely critical of the games and what the studio does at times, but that's from a genuine love for the series and wanting to see it do well.

I grew up with Halo, and I want to see it do well.

[little vessel]

Since 2010 decades, Halo should have continued without master chief and correctly introduce news characters for news games like reach or odst. Second trilogy idea with john 117 was the worst decision.

[undone geyser]

how come instead of the fuel rod gun, we got a skin for the rocket launcher?

[shrewd finch]

I don't think they have the resources in order to create an actual unique weapon unfortunately. At least it is better than a weapon model in the shop.

[civic sundial]

Most the studio resources are dedicated to new projects, Infinite's got a small team working on content

[west rock]

The thing is some of the staff HAD pitched good spin-off ideas for the Halo series. But for really dumb reasons or others they were shot down by the former management or Microsoft execs.

Im sure the scrapped ODST Helldivers like game is well known by now.

[shrewd finch]

Yeah sorry that's what I meant.

[civic sundial]

No worries. I think most people forget that they aren't just working on Infinite because they've not shared much about the new projects

I'd love to know more for sure but I imagine those projects aren't where they want them to be to show them off yet. And honestly, I want them to take their time on them

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/kevindschmitt/status/1759373738594947465

[civic sundial]

I feel like one of us is gonna have to get that tattooed onto our arm to show people every time someone brings up the ODST Helldivers concept

[latent acorn]

Game development can get very complicated. It can be due to funding, timing, limitations or production taking more longer than it should.

[civic sundial]

Indeed. I remember one project I worked on at my old job which was delayed multiple times

Huh, that project had a name change after they laid me off

[west rock]

I still think Microsoft should collab with Arrowhead to get Helldivers 2 on Xbox and put an ODST armor set in the game.

I can't even tell how many times that's been requested on the official Helldivers discord.

There IS a demand for a Halo crossover for Helldivers., I just wonder if its the right time for that or even in consideration.

[civic sundial]

A demand being there doesn't mean it will happen

[white birch]

Arrowheads got their hands full as it is. They aren't a large studio.
Employee overwork is something you actively have to watch out for

An ODST armor set is possible but unlikely for the moment.

[latent acorn]

It's not easy to do a crossover. It needs to be approved by both studios for that to happen. If it was similar for example like 'Tom Clancey's game universe' like crossover with Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6. Then having a crossover for Halo and Helldrivers would been possible, but it's not.

[west rock]

I mean the Rainbow 6 and Splinter Cell crossover was easily done because both game franchises are owned by ubisoft if I recall

Crossovers between different companies are understandably more difficult.

[sturdy kernel]

They have plan to make ODST themed armor, but not now
And if they make it, ODST will become a part of official Helldiver lore

[west rock]

Watch the lore explanation be related to a slipspace accident much like the explanation we got for Nicole-458.

[sturdy kernel]

https://www.thegamer.com/helldivers-2-rules-out-potential-crossovers-master-chief-star-wars/

[civic sundial]

Yeah, of all the franchises to use as an example, using the Tom Clancy franchises isn't a great one for this analogy since they're all owned by the same people

[west rock]

I'd mark the crossover between Square Enix and Shift-Up to put 2B in Stellar Blade as an example.

Or really 2B in any game, seriously its a running joke that she keeps ending up in different worlds because of how many crossovers have put her in other games.

[civic sundial]

Yoko Taro no doubt has come up with lore for each crossover

[latent acorn]

I forgot to mention previous post. If Helldrivers was made by Bungie or 343 set in the Halo universe, then a crossover might have been possible.

[civic sundial]

Well it ain't

[west rock]

It ain't but a ODST crossover isn't off the table.

They just have other things to focus on right now.

[latent acorn]

Correct, it isn't.

[west rock]

One thing Arrowhead is concerned about is IP dilution.

They like the idea of crossovers but they dont want to "Fortnite-ify" the game.

Plus every crossover they add will require a lore explanation for it since it will be canon to Helldivers 2 lore.

[rocky oasis]

i died laughing at this lol

modders then went and cranked out a better looking version in ~1 hour for halo reach too lol

[ionic marten]

Silver team helmets arnt in the game right?

Do we know if they’re gonna be in the exchange?

[west rock]

If you want one of the Silver Team helmets just put the Reach EOD helmet on lol.

[warped yew]

Because there's like 2 people working on this game lmao

[onyx latch]

I'd bet actual money that they had a half-finished project laying around that they were going to implement anyways and just wanted to flex with something they already had laying around.

[rocky oasis]

i dont think anyone initially thought a rocket launcher reskin was a good idea lol, i guarantee it was pretty spontaneous 🤣

ill take my payment in british pounds sterling please 🇬🇧

[onyx latch]

... I was talking about the Modders.

Like, they do reskin projects all the damn time.

[rocky oasis]

me too lol

do you use paypal lol

[onyx latch]

You didn't actually prove me wrong, so no money.

[rocky oasis]

oh come on lol

ill use it to comission a real fuel rod 😭

(/s incase it wasnt obvious lol)

[ruby lake]

ugh

i dont feel confident abt this next operation at alll

[rocky oasis]

arent they making battlepasses expire or something?! literally one of the only good things about infinites monetisation model?

[west rock]

If we stop getting games about Master Chief, I'd kinda like Jerome to take over the main character role.

He's the most qualified to do so.

[onyx latch]

Damn you might be right

• Boring character
• Boring armor
• Boring backstory
• Boring fans

[west rock]

We're talking about Jerome, why are you bringing up Locke?

[onyx latch]

Explain what isn't boring about Jerome.

No, seriously, I want to know what makes this guy sooooo exciting.

[west rock]

He actually has a personality, one of the coolest looking armors in the series, and he's one of the few surviving Spartan-II's that can actually get stuff done.

[onyx latch]

• Lol
• Lmao
• Hard to get crap done when you're stuck in the end of nowhere with no slipspace drive.

His personality is 'boilerplate Spartan II', his armor is just... Green and red, whatever.

OooooOOOooooh, chief with RED paint. So exciting.

[west rock]

"His armor looks like a military soldier, how dare they make a character in a military sci-fi shooter have green."

[onyx latch]

"Military Soldier"

[west rock]

Jerome is actually interesting and has room for good stories.

Meanwhile the only other character to hold the main character role was Locke and he's the single worst protag in a Halo game.

[onyx latch]

Yeah, I can get why a Spartan II Jerome fan would hate a clandestine professional character.

:P

[west rock]

"Professional"

Fails almost every mission in Halo 5

Does literally nothing of importance for the entirety of his presence in the lore

[onyx latch]

The guy literally succeeded every mission he was given in 5 except for one, and even then it was barely.

[rocky oasis]

wdym by boring fans?

[west rock]

Don't worry guys, Locke is MUCH better.

He's got

• A boring personality
• Boring backstory
• Boring fireteam
• Boring fans
• Generic black armor
• The worst campaign storyline in the series
• Permanent status as a failed Chief wannabe

[rocky oasis]

i kinda like lock honestly its just a shame the game surrounding him was awful

[onyx latch]

Jerome fans seething when their cardboard cutout gets criticized even mildly

[solemn portal]

Locke is dead, lmao.

Got wacked off-screen, like Atriox.

[rocky oasis]

is trenchbird always this mean to people with differing opinions lol

[west rock]

Locke fans when other other Halo protagonists exist (they all have better writing than their blank slate)

[onyx latch]

This isn't even mean lmao

[coarse dagger]

He didn't, or rather nothing like that has been confirmed

[onyx latch]

Man Rookie was such an engaging character

[rocky oasis]

you called jerome fans boring, implying alistair is a boring person

[ruby knoll]

is it mean to be truthful

[onyx latch]

I mean, so far he is not proving that assumption wrong.

He is seething to a mildly amusing degree though.

[rocky oasis]

so you generally are this mean? or is this an exception for you lol

[onyx latch]

I didn't even say I liked Locke, which makes this even funnier to me.

[rocky oasis]

i like lock! hes cute

[west rock]

Kinda sad how Rookie is far more engaging than Locke then, considering he's literally a mute faceless player self-insert.

[onyx latch]

Me when I make things up

[ruby knoll]

you should see how the fanbase treats minorities if you think this is mean lol

[west rock]

Don't need to, the reception of Halo 5's campaign does all the talking for me.

[onyx latch]

Buddy you're just trying to get a rise by acting like r/Halo lmao

[rocky oasis]

bro trust me i know its appalling. i got muted once for venting about it lol

put in my place firmly dont worry lol

[west rock]

Meanwhile you're acting like the biggest stereotype for 343 fans right now for no other reason than ragebait lol.

[rocky oasis]

id just disengage tbh @west rock

[west rock]

I don't even think you have an actual stance on the series. Every time you post it's basically whichever position is the contrarian one.

[west rock]

Good idea, not worth the mental energy.

[onyx latch]

You need to work on your endurance lmao

[ruby lake]

guitar noises

[solemn portal]

You aren't that important, Trenchbird.

[rocky oasis]

MEEELELEEEMEOOOWOOWWWWWEEEOOOOW!

[ruby lake]

took the words out of my mind

[west rock]

EXPLOSIONS!

[rocky oasis]

SOMEONE GETS IT

[west rock]

I played Borderlands 2 during it's prime. I'd be ashamed if I didn't get that Torgue reference lmao.

[onyx latch]

Never said I was lmao

[ruby lake]

doom music be like: 🎸🎸 chainsaw noises

[onyx latch]

Shame to leave this crappy edit go to waste though

[rocky oasis]

eek its a shame i was already a destiny fangirl by the time i tried borderlands. luckily as an adult now i love it much more

[west rock]

Halo and Borderlands were probably my two biggest time sinks during the prime of the Xbox 360.

[rocky oasis]

halo 5 bad tho 🗣️ truth speaking birb

[onyx latch]

Weird, I didn't say that.

[ruby lake]

speak of doom

i wonder if its possible to make songs similar to its recent soundtracks...

[west rock]

It is, I believe the genre that Doom created is called Argent Metal.

[rocky oasis]

i know lol, your the contrarianbird

[ruby lake]

oh yeah!

[onyx latch]

Nah

[ruby lake]

i wanna try making argent metal

[rocky oasis]

yahhh 💅

[west rock]

I've seen people make argent metal remixes of Halo tracks.

[ruby lake]

HUAH??

[west rock]

They're sweet

[solemn portal]

Halo 5 is beyond atrocious, a black plague on this franchise. An immesurable disaster. A titanic blunder. A ridiculous attempt at entertainment. The punchline of its own joke.

[ruby lake]

but i think its hard to do with a simple DAW that i mainly use...
(took me weeks to perfect the guitar sound with just digital tools)

[onyx latch]

When I'm an overdramatic competition and a Halo fan comes into the room

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-5928675730449509852

[rocky oasis]

it had fun gameplay 🥺 it just wasnt halo

[solemn portal]

Hey, I didn't say "Halo 5 bad"!

[rocky oasis]

it was titanfall

or titanfall adjacent idk

[onyx latch]

Spoken like someone who has never played Titanfall or Halo.

[rocky oasis]

lol your correct on the former, i do own tf2 though!

[ruby lake]

pluh

[rocky oasis]

i heard its a good game and ill try it eventually. i just need to force my way through rage 😔

i hate rage lol

[onyx latch]

It's like saying Shadow the Hedgehog plays like Mortal Kombat.

[ruby lake]

he does

[rocky oasis]

to be fair theyre both quite fast paced

[onyx latch]

As far as statements go, it's certainly a statement.

[rocky oasis]

😇

[onyx latch]

Halo 5's literally got a comparable pace to Halo Infinite. Most of Infinite's balancing is literally built off of how 5 played.

[ruby lake]

i can handle fast paced games

[west rock]

It played less like Titanfall 2 and more like that disaster of a game called COD: Advanced Warfare.

There was little to no difference between Spartan Abilities and Exo Movement.

[onyx latch]

The sidekick's entire balance gimmick was centered around a Halo 5 magnum variant.

[onyx latch]

Kek

If you actually believe you're right there, I have a bridge to sell you.

[west rock]

Sorry but I can't buy one, you already burned all the bridges.

[rocky oasis]

dont engage @west rock its been established this guy is a troll lol

[rocky oasis]

REKT

[onyx latch]

Honestly not the worst comeback, props.

[ruby lake]

wair whos the troll?

[rocky oasis]

trench

[ruby lake]

oh ok

[onyx latch]

... No, I'm just genuinely being me.

[ruby lake]

ill ignore them then

[onyx latch]

I don't troll.

[rocky oasis]

your quite mean so maybe you should be less you lol

[onyx latch]

Nah.

[rocky oasis]

okay!

[onyx latch]

I don't believe in faking who I am. If you can't handle being told you're wrong, when you are wrong, that's on you.

[ruby lake]

there

[rocky oasis]

☺️

[ruby lake]

i can tolerate trolling until its like
tooooo much

[onyx latch]

Anyways, Halo 5 only shares one real commonality with Advanced Warfare, which is a ground pound ability-and even then it functions entirely differently.

[rocky oasis]

yeah same

[ruby lake]

then i get confused and stuff

[rocky oasis]

i troll sometimes not often i try to make it obvious when i do

[ruby knoll]

halo fans will say anything really

[rocky oasis]

halo fans have been known to use their voices its true!

[onyx latch]

They usually use it to say dumb crap they made up.

[ruby lake]

meow

[ruby knoll]

jelly is a jelly today

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-jelly-bread-sandwich-toast-gif-25544652

[rocky oasis]

i want embed perms 🫴

[ruby knoll]

cellophane

[onyx latch]

I was gonna post something else but that caught my eye

[solemn portal]

Wait, why should I care about anything coming from the mouth of a not Halo fan on the Halo Discord? 🙃

[rocky oasis]

MY GOD COMES IN A WRAPPER OF CELLOPHANE

[ruby lake]

maybe argent metal will be easy

[ruby knoll]

what about argent flame

[onyx latch]

Up to you. I expect people not to listen, lmao.

[ruby lake]

the drum part might be difficult

but i think i can do it

[rocky oasis]

then why say it pluh

[onyx latch]

Because I can.

[rocky oasis]

fair

[onyx latch]

And because I do actually like this franchise, I just hate how dull and low-impulse fans are.

[rocky oasis]

wouldnt you rather spend that time playing Halo on the Xbox One?!!1!1

[west rock]

Not quite.

Similar if not the same ground pound, thruster dash, thruster dodge, and boost slide.

They're too similar to not be compared, and the idea that they have nothing in common is nothing short of delusion.

[ruby lake]

hmm

[ruby knoll]

oh no games have overlap wtf wtf bungus would never

[onyx latch]

Good thing I didn't say they had nothing in common lmao

[west rock]

But then again, copying COD is pretty much what Halo 4 and 5 were known for.

[rocky oasis]

yeah like halo 5 literally took nods from mobility shooters at the time lol

[onyx latch]

Which is really weird, because it's Reach that started that trend.

[ruby knoll]

oh no the horror

[rocky oasis]

that was halo 5s trend lol

[onyx latch]

But then, I don't expect Halo fans to be fair to their own franchise.

[ruby lake]

i liked 5 (except the story)

[west rock]

Really? I wasnt aware Armor Lock was in call of duty.

Could you please show me where COD had holograms, drop shields, or active camoflauge?

[rocky oasis]

i liked 5s gameplay i just wish it was some spinoff halo or not halo at all. sort of like fallout 4 being a bad fallout game but good in general

[onyx latch]

[west rock]

Oh wait, Reach did that first lmao.

[ruby knoll]

5 had the best forge (until infinite forge)

[solemn portal]

Reach was the poison pill from Bungie. 343i gobbled it up.
I still believe a lot of the decisions made in that game were made in spite.

[west rock]

Halo 5 is a good shooter

It's just not a good Halo in my opinion.

[ruby knoll]

i mean yes bungie were spiteful and egotistical

[ruby lake]

<<of course we're halo fans, we disregard others' opinions in favor of ours!>>

[rocky oasis]

i think they mean sprint and bloom. reach definitely did try to “modernise” the halo formula which is why a lot of people find it divisive

[onyx latch]

Damn I can't believe Halo reach invented invisibility

[ruby lake]

idk that just popped in my head

[onyx latch]

I also can't believe Halo Reach invented Holograms, Drop Shields

[rocky oasis]

it makes me wonder what halo would look like today if reach went in a different direction honestly!

[onyx latch]

Man I guess Duke Nukem and Doom 1 don't exist lmao

[rocky oasis]

doom 1 has drop shields?

[west rock]

Doom 1 has a drop shield? Man I wonder where id software got a time machine from.

[ruby lake]

we'd still be sprint-less to this day

[rocky oasis]

maybe!

[ruby lake]

thank god for teaching spartans how to run

[rocky oasis]

i dont really like sprint honestly, i think it messed with the gameplay formula in an irreparable way 😿 at least it feels cool

[onyx latch]

It has active camo (Labelled partial invisibility). Duke Nukem has holo-Dukes, which function like holograms. Deployable 'cover' and shields have been in games for a hot minute, Halo 3 being one example but not the first one.

[ruby knoll]

suddenly remembering that clip of glacial h3 gameplay on The Pit™

[rocky oasis]

holo dukes lol

[onyx latch]

I mean, yeah, it's literally a hologram of the main character.

[rocky oasis]

no its just a funny name for it

[onyx latch]

Halo Reach didn't do much that was actually all that creative.

[rocky oasis]

holo spartan lol

[onyx latch]

The 'grittier' tone was a direct response to popular modern shooters at the time, such as... Call of Duty.

[ruby lake]

if he didnt, we'd still be on wheelchairs!

[rocky oasis]

NOBLE, DEPLOY HOLO SPARTANS

[onyx latch]

It's why they went for the more 'alien' Covenant, more low-tech and 'militarized' guns.

[ruby lake]

holo spartans ✨

[rocky oasis]

i love what reach did elites terrify me to this day

[ruby knoll]

reach elites are close to h4 elites basically

[onyx latch]

I always felt they were too top-heavy and goofy, but then, their armor isn't the worst.

[rocky oasis]

they dont feel it for some reason

[onyx latch]

I'd be lying if I said I didn't like Elite Rangers or Ultras from Reach.

[west rock]

No H4 elites are insanely bottom heavy and dopey looking. The exact opposite of Reach elites.

[rocky oasis]

i think a lot of it was to make them feel more imposing, vs chief they were sort of just skinny boys lol

[ruby lake]

billions of elites must die!!

[rocky oasis]

to noble theyre like monsters of myth

[west rock]

Nothing beats the Halo 3 elite designs for me.

[rocky oasis]

reach has fallen, billions must pillar of autumn

[rocky oasis]

interesting! i find those to be among the worst

[ruby knoll]

the desync grenade in the vid is just beautiful

[west rock]

Really? I think they're great.

Equal height with Spartans, only a slightly wider hitbox

[rocky oasis]

at least of the bungie era yeah

[rocky oasis]

they did that with multiplayer balancing in mind i think more than anything

[onyx latch]

It is uniquely frustrating to find a good side-by-side of Reach and 4 elites. It's actually kinda funny-they're not that far apart proportionally.

[west rock]

I know that's why I prefer H3 over Reach.

The trade-off of automatic health regen is not worth the massive increase in size.

[ruby lake]

it wouldve been cooler if we could shoot while using the grappling hook in infinite

[ruby knoll]

i thought you can

[rocky oasis]

they just look goofy to me. dont get me wrong they perfectly fit bungies pre reach whimsicality but i think their reach redesign was necessary and incredibly successful

[ruby lake]

❌

[ruby knoll]

unfortunate

[onyx latch]

Like, they're physically bigger, but the actual proportionality isn't that different.

[rocky oasis]

reach with 3 elites would feel tonally dissonant to me

[solemn portal]

What's the issue here?

[ruby lake]

i tried it when i was going for a brute but i was met with disappointment instead

[rocky oasis]

high heel queen 😻

[onyx latch]

I think it's the boots that make the 4/5 elites look bottom-heavy tbh

[ruby knoll]

utterly glacial

[solemn portal]

It's Halo.

[onyx latch]

But without the armor they're not too far off.

[ruby lake]

utterly glacial

[rocky oasis]

i dont mind 4s elite armour theyre just too bulky for me. in reach it was moreso their armour not bodies

[west rock]

Well yeah, they have completely different art styles.

Reach assets would look insanely out of place in Halo 3 and vice versa.

Which is why nobody would ever think mixing Reach and Halo 3 assets together is a good idea right?

Looks at Combat Evolved Anniversary

[onyx latch]

I mean nothing's better than Infinite Elites IMO. They get that skinny, alien feeling that works great.

[ruby lake]

pluh

[onyx latch]

I just wish they didn't exclusively use Reach armor designs. I hate the amount of pandering to Reach fans.

[rocky oasis]

yeah im just saying. i much prefer their reach redesign 😊

[onyx latch]

Honestly the most delusional section of the fanbase.

[west rock]

That would go to Halo 4.

[rocky oasis]

DONT RISE TO THEIR TROLLING COME ON

[onyx latch]

... Still not a he.

[rocky oasis]

just ignore it and move on lol its working for me

[ruby lake]

yeah thats what i did
ignore them

[rocky oasis]

my bad! sorry

[onyx latch]

Mmmmmmmn, I dunno. 4 fans are at least willing to let their stuff get criticized without frothing and seething.

Probs helps when there's a lot to criticize about a game made on Reach's bones in under 2 years.

[ruby lake]

still cant run away from the hatefarming halo vide0s

[west rock]

Reach has plenty to criticize, just most of it is more or less waffling and people trying to make Reach look worse to prop up the 343 titles.

[ruby lake]

its like a hydra
you cut off one head and 2 more pop out

[onyx latch]

riiiight. That's why people criticize Reach. "Waffling".

[rocky oasis]

i love reach so much and i think recent ive come to really appreciate older halo much more. reach just feels so idk. fast. but 3 and odst feel more dynamic

[solemn portal]

Reach is so much better than any of the 343i Halo it's unreal.
And I say this as someone who think it's the lesser Bungie Halo.

[onyx latch]

Nice opinion.

[ruby knoll]

blasphemy against godMarty's gift to mankind is a conspiracy to turn his followers astray

[solemn portal]

It's great, isn't it?

[ruby lake]

mm... sponge!

[onyx latch]

It's pretty boring, honestly.

[west rock]

Reach has major balancing issues but it's arguably the best of the "new" era of Halo.

[ruby knoll]

ew

[onyx latch]

Gross.

[west rock]

I'd say its the best 2010 era Halo.

[ruby knoll]

reach's forge sucks too

[rocky oasis]

what issues? i think its balanced quiet well honestly

[ruby lake]

spongebob

[lusty sundial]

how do you put in images?

[rocky oasis]

some weapons are redundant but id always prefer redundancy over scarcity

[west rock]

Sprint breaks a lot of the maps since many are too small for it to have been designed around that specific armor ability.

[ruby knoll]

seems like a pretty major issue

[rocky oasis]

yeah fair. and also it messes with campaign balancing imo

[onyx latch]

Being a cool dude with good takes.

[solemn portal]

The DMR is really REALLY EXTREMELY good.
And then the TU happened and it became more broken than the CE pistol.

[lusty sundial]

ok what's step 2

[onyx latch]

That's... The entire step.

[rocky oasis]

people keep mentioning tu, i dont know what it means or how it affects mcc

[west rock]

Yeah when people say the Reach DMR is broken, the TU update 343 added was the cause.

[onyx latch]

The Reach DMR sucks even in normal Reach, but then, TU sucks.

[west rock]

It stands for Title Update, and it was a balancing update that 343 pushed out in 2011.

[onyx latch]

And by 'sucks' I mean 'I hate seeing this damn gun used all the time'. Never was a fan of 'workhouse precisions' weapon balancing.

[rocky oasis]

me neither honestly. but i feel like thats always been a thing? even in halo 3

[onyx latch]

Though TU did nerf the hell out of armor lock, so there is that.

[rocky oasis]

br always wins in halo 3 lol

[west rock]

It reduced bloom for all automatics, massively buffed all precision weapons by giving them less bloom and thus better range and fire rate.

And then, as the stupidest part of the update, allowed melee damage to ignore shields and headshots will ignore your shield after a crrtain percentage

[rocky oasis]

unless im holding it 😔✊

[lusty sundial]

seriously though how. I tried pasting in a screenshot to ask a question about it and it won't work.

[solemn portal]

The CE pistol and the BR were always dominant. The DMR is just miles ahead in the Reach sandbox. It's even capable of counter sniping the sniper.

[west rock]

Bleedthrough damage is probably the worst addition to Reach

[ruby knoll]

try #1075989764026675210 if you're looking for help

[rocky oasis]

you need the inheritor role, which i think(?) is given after lots of activity

[onyx latch]

Bleedthrough's just an annoying mechanic.

[rocky oasis]

why do people hate bleedthrough? i think it adds an extra layer of skill

[west rock]

Oh they also removed Sword Blocking in the TU, which actually took skill to pull off consistently.

[lusty sundial]

how much activity?

[onyx latch]

Oh right that's another part of it I liked

[rocky oasis]

did it? i always do it by accident lol

[rocky oasis]

i dont know haha sorry

[solemn portal]

That change was fine, imo. The Sword should be scary.

[onyx latch]

Armor Lock and sword blocking getting nerfed were the two reasons I don't entirely loathe TU.

[west rock]

It doesnt, it massively cut down the TTK and broke all the vanilla maps since they were designed around the pre-TU healthpool.

[coarse dagger]

It's bot controlled and based on various factors. There's not definitve answer on time, it will vary per user

[ruby lake]

skull emoji

[onyx latch]

Awww c'mon Stckr why you gotta ruin the magic

[rocky oasis]

oh fair. i dont really know much about map design honestly i wish i did.

[west rock]

Yeah, map design is especially important in Halo.

[rocky oasis]

i play halo by just wandering around and dying to joe with his power gun lol

[onyx latch]

It's... Not as relevant to health. Bungie didn't really have the best mindset regarding balance.

Positioning though, it's not horrible.

[lusty sundial]

Factors like what?

[sullen kiln]

Inheritors are folks with veterancy, a record of good behavior, and currently active

[west rock]

Its why I never allow TU slayer in my custom games lobbies in MCC.

[onyx latch]

Damn, don't let people who call me a troll let you hear that, Iratus.

[rocky oasis]

im on good behaviour, give me inheritor? 🥺

[onyx latch]

It'd break my tiny bleak heart if they thought I was a good person in any way.

[lusty sundial]

whats veterancy?

[onyx latch]

Google, what the blam! is?

[west rock]

Just being on the server for a while.

[coarse dagger]

Be here a while

[ruby knoll]

smh i already gave the answer but got ignored

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-the-dark-knight-laughing-crazy-creepy-gif-5463503727467730362

[ruby knoll]

.

[rocky oasis]

sucks to feel sucked as sucking sucks is suck

[ruby knoll]

the jonkler?????

[onyx latch]

Real...

[ruby knoll]

is he stupit?

[rocky oasis]

ahahahhaha, i dont wanna kill you?! 🥺 💅

[onyx latch]

But yeah TU reach is a mixed bag. If I had it my way I'd basically keep everything except the bleedthrough and weapon stat changes.

Of course, I'd still be playing Reach, which is like pulling teeth because that means I have to interact with people who like that game.

[rocky oasis]

then why are you interacting with us lol

[onyx latch]

Because it's better than dealing with Politics, which is unfortunately my major.

[rocky oasis]

just go play some Halo on the Xbox One

[onyx latch]

Nah

My Xbox One is a glorified DVD player that exists to watch the Venture Brothers.

[rocky oasis]

LMAO

[west rock]

At least we can agree on SOMETHING.

[lusty sundial]

last time I checked they never fixed the bump maps on that version

[rocky oasis]

whats a bump map?

[lusty sundial]

a 3d lighting effect projected on a 2d surface to create the illusion of higher poly detail

[onyx latch]

Shockingly, when you aren't trying to deliver sick burns on someone who has heard all the 'Halo 5 bad' jokes under the sun, they can be surprisingly agreeable.

[lusty sundial]

such as a repeating texture of cracks in stone, or indentations on metal walls

[rocky oasis]

isnt that broken in ce?

or h2, i forgot

[lusty sundial]

yes

[rocky oasis]

oh. shame theyll never fix it because uhhhhhh uhhhhhhhh fixing issues is bad

[onyx latch]

Anyways, my kingdom for a Tanaka armor kit in Halo Infinite.

[lusty sundial]

actually I heard it's fixed on PC

[onyx latch]

And by my kingdom I mean like 20 bucks. Or whatever it'll be after inflation destroys us all.

[rocky oasis]

really! interesting

[lusty sundial]

My problem isn't a technical issue, it's about the difference between 2 setup options

[ruby knoll]

oh

[lusty sundial]

how do you tell if someone has inheritor

[coarse dagger]

Check their server roles

[onyx latch]

Or if they post something that embeds.

[fossil harbor]

god i love halo 5

that is all

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-cole-train-gif-15215650645978726386

[rocky oasis]

we cant be friends, dont come to my next firefight 🙅‍♀️

also sorry i didnt end up hosting lastnight! other things came up haha

[fossil harbor]

sad chief sitting gif

[onyx latch]

NGL Halo 5 and Infinite would be locked in a death struggle for 1st place on my 'favorite Halo to play' chart if 5 had a full PC port.

[rocky oasis]

this is what the mods have forced us to do. roleplay embeds lol

[onyx latch]

But then I like the alien concept of 'fluid movement' in my shooter games. Comes with being a Tribes/Unreal alumni.

[lusty sundial]

it's okay he's just complimenting devs so they give him inheritor

[rocky oasis]

fair

[fossil harbor]

pretty sure its a bot that gives the role

[rocky oasis]

yes yes i love halo 5 wow amazing req pack. +4 social credit

[onyx latch]

That doesn't actually get you inheritor.

[lusty sundial]

it was a joke

[onyx latch]

Like you?

[rocky oasis]

you cant resist being an ahh can you

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-cole-train-gif-15215650645978726386

[fossil harbor]

🍿

[onyx latch]

I'm sorry it was too easy not to

[grave ether]

[fossil harbor]

god look at that xbox 360 piss filter

its beautiful

[rocky oasis]

new vegas wants its coffee stains back

[solemn portal]

The brown filter is SOUL.

[onyx latch]

I wish we got an actual sequel to Gears 5, because I found the story's direction at least interesting, but ah well.

[lusty sundial]

Are you still online?

ok that sounds like a no

[west rock]

I dont need to deliver 'sick burns'

I deal purely in cold hard facts. And you'd be very agreeable if you didnt come across as passive-aggressive.

[onyx latch]

Riiiiiiiiight.

[onyx latch]

The two options you are looking at are EAC or no EAC. No EAC locks you out of matchmaking and progression, but does allow you to use mods.

[lusty sundial]

is eac the same as anti cheat?

[onyx latch]

EAC is anti cheat. It literally stands for Easy Anti-Cheat.

[lusty sundial]

ok cool so I click that one to try the mac world demo then, cool thanks

[lusty sundial]

cuz the mac world is on a mod

[west rock]

I hope the next Halo doesnt deviate from the core gameplay loop that Infinite has

I honestly really like it

The movement feels good and they managed to make sprint work without it being overpowered or out of place.

[warped yew]

At worst, the next game pulls another reboot which is unlikely

[west rock]

I'd like to see Chief's story get wrapped up so we can start exploring the expanded universe in the FPS titles.

Arbiter, Jerome, Buck, all good picks or even a new character that lets us explore outside the extremely limited scope of Master Chief and the Spartan-IVs.

[warped yew]

The least we could get is multiple perspectives. Give us more characters Banished and UNSC alike to further make the world feel alive

[lusty sundial]

pretty sure the expanded universe got retconned and replaced

[west rock]

They'd better not have pulled a Disney.

The expanded universe is what made Halo stand out, it has nothing going for it if they get rid of that.

[lusty sundial]

they did
when they bought it from bungie

[warped yew]

I don't even really care about the story. We just need more meat on the bones this time if you catch my drift

[west rock]

The only change they made was that absurd retcon about Forerunners being a seperate alien species instead of being ancient humans.

[warped yew]

I mean that was always vague enough for me to see the change not as bad

[lusty sundial]

that's not all. They also decanonized several books

[west rock]

As someone who was heavily invested in the Bungie era lore I strongly dislike that change.

[west rock]

Which ones.

[lusty sundial]

the bungie ones

[coarse dagger]

I don't think any books have been decanonized

[latent acorn]

Do you have source?

[warped yew]

It is what it is ig. Also be ready for some comments because I've seen people get flak for saying they liked the old lore better

[west rock]

Yeah no, they definitely couldn't do that without breaking the story.

Contact Harvest is what set up the entire reason for the Human-Covenant War.

[lusty sundial]

some videos I saw a while back and don't remember

[warped yew]

Isn't the Fall of Reach's continuity broken by Halo Reach?

[west rock]

Yesn't.

[lusty sundial]

which they did

[west rock]

Parts of it are still canon but others were decanonized by the game since games always take precedent over the books in lore.

[warped yew]

But one has to be cannon? So there's definitely one of the two that's been decanonized

[coarse dagger]

A reissue of the book was made by 343 to fix some of the inconsistencies

[latent acorn]

If it's from a youtuber, then it's not a reliable source.

[warped yew]

So the old one was decanonized

[west rock]

Fall of Reach exists within a semi-canon status.

And like the mod said 343 did a re-release that makes it consistent with Halo Reach.

I believe they brought on the same writer to fix the inconsistencies am I correct?

[warped yew]

Aight

But back to the original comment I was responding too. I agree. The gameplay of Infinite is probably one of the best, and we just need a more packed campaign unlike the one we got

[grave ether]

"the mod" lol. Poor stckr. He's just a mod now

[west rock]

I didnt know how to refer to them

[grave ether]

His name works lol

[west rock]

Noted.

[lusty sundial]

ok that one is definitely been decanonized by the new company

On the Covenant holy city of High Charity, two San 'Shyuum, the Minister of Fortitude and the Vice-Minister of Tranquility, plot to take the place of the three Prophet Hierarchs currently leading the Covenant. They visit the Philologist for blessings and advice. As Tranquility and Fortitude are meeting with the Philologist, the "Oracle", a Forerunner artificial intelligence named Mendicant Bias, awakens from dormancy. Mendicant Bias informs the San 'Shyuum that the "Forerunner artifacts" found at Harvest are actually the humans themselves, meaning that the Covenant's central teachings are false. The Minister of Fortitude realizes that the truth must never be revealed, lest the Covenant be torn apart.

[west rock]

You literally cannot decanonize Contact Harvest or else the Human-Covenant War has no reason to take place.

[lusty sundial]

they did it anyway

[coarse dagger]

They haven't

Please stop spreading misinformation

[west rock]

The Covenant intended to invite humanity into their ranks until the prophets found out that the Forerunners and Humans were the same, and that it made the entire basis of their religion a lie.

It also gives a huge layer of irony and tragedy to the war

[lusty sundial]

yeah which isn't a part of 343 canon

[west rock]

The Covenant were mislead by their leaders into killing the very "gods" they worshipped.

[west rock]

Stckr literally just debunked what you said.

[lusty sundial]

no they didn't

[west rock]

Is this guy trolling

[latent acorn]

Thet have not decanonize Contact Harvest. That is silly to think they did.

[coarse dagger]

Other than "a YouTuber I forgot", what is your source for 343, now Halo Studios, decanonizing content?

[lusty sundial]

Contact harvest says humans are forerunners. The post bungie games say they aren't. That sounds like them treating it like non canon to me

[latent acorn]

I asked the same thing.

[warped yew]

[west rock]

Please show me your source that shows that Contact Harvest is no longer canon.

[lusty sundial]

halo 4 directly ignoring the lore of contact harvest

[coarse dagger]

"Humans are Forerunners" was not even solidified with Bungie, as they changed it in the Halo 3 terminals

Halo Studios optiled to move forward with that version of events

Nothing else has been decanonized

[solemn portal]

lol
lmao

The terminals were Frankie fanfic. Everything else pointed to humans being Forerunners.

[latent acorn]

That was during when Bungie was still doing Halo at the time. So again 343/Halo studios did not retcon Contact Harvest out.

[west rock]

Guilty Spark directly confirms the opposite as well.

And the terminal suggesting Forerunners arent human was made by Frank O'Connor, who had zero hand in writing the lore of the previous games and books.

[lusty sundial]

those terminals weren't written by the main team and thus contain errors. The game itself has guilty spark saying "you are forerunner".

[west rock]

"You are the child of my Makers, inheritor of all they left behind. You are Forerunner. But this ring is MINE."

-Guilty Spark

[grave ether]

I bet trench would enjoy this convo

[lusty sundial]

Frank O'Connor went on to work on Halo 4 which contradicts the forerunner lore

[latent acorn]

If that happens, we need to grab some popcorn and pizza.

[warped yew]

I'm pretty chill towards Trench but that person is always passive aggressive in like every conversation unless they're educating me on lore

[west rock]

Halo 4 and 5 are (respectfully) akin to Frank's fanfiction with how little of the previous games were understood in those stories.

[lusty sundial]

which side is he on

[west rock]

They're a Halo 4/5 glazer.

[coarse dagger]

Changing Forerunner to be a separate thing does not remove Contact Harvest or other previous media from canon

[west rock]

It does create contradictions that do kinda need to be addressed though.

[solemn portal]

Trench seems to be a 343i fanboy and virulently anti-old Halo.

[grave ether]

Not even lol

[west rock]

I wouldnt have a problem with Trench liking the newer games if they didnt put down the old titles in every other sentence.

[coarse dagger]

I think people are looking too much into this. It's really not that deep

[warped yew]

This is discord

[lusty sundial]

well not from the true canon held in the hearts of the fans but 343's canon? yeah

[grave ether]

[west rock]

I mean, not really? At least to me.

One of Halo's biggest pulls was always that it had a cool story.

[coarse dagger]

And it's been discussed to death for 10 years

[grave ether]

No this is Patrick

[warped yew]

Funny guy

Who do you think are?

[solemn portal]

And the answer is always the same. 343i ruined the lore. Simple as.

[west rock]

I wouldnt say that.

[warped yew]

Isn't that subjective though

[lusty sundial]

based

[coarse dagger]

They didn't but ok

[warped yew]

Isn't that subjective too

[west rock]

Some parts are good but others got screwed up at least to me.

[lusty sundial]

they also did rampancy wrong

[coarse dagger]

I watched that episode recently haha

[west rock]

I dont care for humanity suddenly being a-okay only 4 years later even though they almost went extinct during Halo 3.

[west rock]

Yes and no.

[warped yew]

I mean Bungie didn't really care for lore and now we're getting complex lore at the expense of all the cool stuff happening in the books sadly

[west rock]

Cortana's behavior during rampancy IS in line with some of the steps of Bungie rampancy since they took that from Marathon, but they left out meta-stability.

[lusty sundial]

They also left out the fact that in halo lore it's preventable with maintenance.

[west rock]

AI's aren't supposed to die in the old canon when they hit the final stage of rampancy.

They become meta-stable and basically indistinguishable from humans.

343/Halo Studio's best addition to the lore was definitely The Banished.

[warped yew]

Yes Space Pirates

And then they lost their distinct look for some of the aliens in Infinite

[lusty sundial]

I thought in marathon lore metastability usually doesn't happen and AI's typically just die

[west rock]

Rampancy barely ever happened in Marathon lore

It only happened in that story because one of the scientists purposely induced rampancy with Durandal.

Honestly even back in Halo CE some of the building blocks for Humans and Forerunners being the same are there

[latent acorn]

Marathon and Halo are two separate franchises. Same with their AIs.

[lusty sundial]

also halo 4 pulled an arbitrary age for how long until an ai gets rampancy

[west rock]

"You can't imagine how exciting this is! To have a record of all our lost times!"

[lusty sundial]

they even drew attention to that in the commentary

[west rock]

If I recall the lifespan for smart AI was actually set all the way back in the older books

The original release of Ghosts of Onyx even touched on that.

AI dont suddenly start dying after 7 years but rampancy does become a risk if nothing is done.

[latent acorn]

The lifespan of smart AI is 7 or 8 years, if I'm correct.

[west rock]

Not naturally. The UNSC just usually terminated smart AI after 7 years to prevent the risk entirely.

[warped yew]

Why can't they just fix em up

[west rock]

You need a new sample of the neural tissue said Smart AI was created from to do that.

And if the donor for said neural tissue died within that 7 years, that creates a problem.

[lusty sundial]

wasn't that added by 343

[west rock]

No, that's actually Bungie era lore.

[warped yew]

Can't they make clones or something

[west rock]

Cortana and her sister were cloned from Halsey's brain.

[warped yew]

Like of actual people?

[latent acorn]

It's a lot more complicated. They can be fix, but it is more of band aid (temporary fix).

[coarse dagger]

My copy is up in my office and I'm not getting out of bed to check 😛

[west rock]

Cole Protocol came out in 2008, it's a Bungie era statement.

So yes the 7 years thing was not a 343 change

[lusty sundial]

cuz in bungie lore isn't preventing rampancy through maintenance possible? I remember there being a colony that alternated between turning on 2 different AIs so that one could get maintenance to prevent rampancy while the other stayed active.

[lusty sundial]

ok but what about the UNSC usually terminating smart AIs after 7 years to prevent the risk entirely?

[west rock]

That was Harvest.

And those two AI were "dumb" AI if I recall.

Dumb AI have no risk of rampancy.

[celest heron]

because it's likely not relevant if maintenance can't fix a smart ai.

[shrewd finch]

No one pushed snipe on the enemy team. Of course it's going to feel slow.

[west rock]

Why are there so many cheaters on MCC now.

[solemn portal]

Are there? What kind?

[ruby knoll]

this is a "its just cuz of the fov bro" tier excuse

[west rock]

I've run into at least 2 people tonight that are giving me the strong suspicion that they're using a XIM.

I'm also about one match away from crashing out on voice chat and showing people what game chat sounded like in 2009 if I get a teammate who leaves at the beginning of the game one more time.

[shrewd finch]

Please explain.

The same thing happens in any other halo game if the enemy isnt in your line of sight for an extended period of time.

[west rock]

Like I'm actually about to have a Modern Warfare 2 post-game lobby level crash out.

[solemn portal]

He can't sprint or use the grappling hook so his brain isn't stimulated enough.

[ruby knoll]

i like games where you can move faster than a dying slug, what can i say

[celest heron]

no one went for snipe or os. must've been an easy game. if you're used to sprinting, then of course it's going to feel even slower than it is, but I don't mind that.

[ruby knoll]

i don't necessarily need a separate sprint but h3 plays so much better at 120% bms

[crystal sentinel]

im going for reach SLASO 🫡

[orchid stone]

Anyone want to play Halo MCC Big Team Battle Snipers? Looking for a match with no results! Would be great if we could get 15 others to boot up and join!
My Gamertag is ReadyEddie777

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[rocky oasis]

LOOOOOOL i was fighting spark and before he died he said “MY PRECIOUUUUS!”

[civic sundial]

Aye, he can say that

[sullen ether]

What’s happening to the old battle passes

[signal ivy]

nothing

old passes stay as they are

[spare oar]

Call of duty is not better than halo

[coarse dagger]

Ok

[ruby lake]

ok

[ruby knoll]

ok

[rocky oasis]

call of duty IS better than halo 😇

[solemn portal]

Oof.

[ruby lake]

oof

[west rock]

We need better report functions

And MCC actually needs an anti-cheat that works along with better moderation

I dont care how it does it but games need to be able to detect if someone is using a XIM program and give them a console level ban

Because even the social playlists are crap

I have not had a single good game on 3 or Reach in the last week and if this keeps up im about ready to go nuclear on the next person who speaks over game chat even if they dont deserve it

[solemn portal]

Record your matches and use the support website to report players. Don't report ingame, it's worthless.

[quasi nexus]

idk maybe some of the older cods are better than the last few halos but the last 10 years of COD have been terrible

halo 6 is pretty bad still though so it's a close call these days

[rocky oasis]

never played cod in my life so idk

[solemn portal]

But... But why say it's better than Halo? W-Why?

https://tenor.com/view/confusion-huh-gif-22987897

[lusty sundial]

Why does clicking the built in gif feature post a link instead of a gif?

[inland minnow]

because regular users do not have embed permissions

[solemn portal]

Only the """"cool"""" kids can post embeds.

[lusty sundial]

but it's a built in discord feature, and making people post links doesn't even prevent anything it just makes it more of a pain to deal with

[quasi nexus]

cause halo has been pretty bad for quite a long time now

[solemn portal]

Old ||and good ||Halo is still out there though.

[quasi nexus]

if you mean MCC yeah but it's got a ton of issues too

not as bad as halo 6 but still pretty wacky

[quasi nexus]

making people posts links in a massive security risk too

[solemn portal]

It's 2025. Built-in security features from browsers and Windows Defender are pretty good.
You can't protect people from blindly downloading dolphin erotica.

[quasi nexus]

neither of those prevent a tracker tho

[celest heron]

if you're clicking random links, that's kind of on you.

[quasi nexus]

i don't click any links ever. just pointing out the server putting the ignorant at risk

[fossil harbor]

I think "the ignorant" can handle it

all it takes is one person to post the most horrendous images you've ever seen

[quasi nexus]

it's okay if you too slow to get it

[fossil harbor]

I understood what you said, it was just stupid.

[west rock]

I dont have any recording software, I can't.

[quasi nexus]

don't have a tizzy kyle (they had a tizzy) 😄

[solemn portal]

If you have Windows, you have the Game Bar.

[celest heron]

the server has been like this for 6 years. I think we'll be fine.

[rocky oasis]

a hacker just spoofed to and reported me on masse because i reported them for blatant racism, am i going to get banned for doing nothing wrong?

[solemn portal]

Don't ever announce reports. It's an easy way to attract the ire of bad actors.

[rocky oasis]

of course, but am i going to get banned for something i never did?

[solemn portal]

If it ever happens, contest your ban. Keep receipts, like chat history.

[rocky oasis]

hrmm. does theatre save chat logs?

[solemn portal]

Nope.

[rocky oasis]

im guessing thats another thing 343 will never bother to add lol

well i took some screenshots anyway and can at least get a clip of him killing then banning me from a lobby he didnt own

[glad juniper]

that was some low tier bait and they still took it

[inland minnow]

to respond to this: disallowing embeds from regular users drastically reduces the risk of shock images being posted here. if it's just a link, there's no shocking content. if the words in the link itself are shocking or offensive, we moderate that too

[inland minnow]

regarding this: we monitor links for known inappropriate content. we also disallow inline embeds (where a link looks like this, which links to google) - dont try to copy that format because it is filtered - for the exact reason you bring up.

[quasi nexus]

I rustled some feathers simply pointing that out

[inland minnow]

if anyone has further concerns you are more than welcome to bring it up with @upbeat plover

[inland minnow]

not in the slightest, i'm simply explaining that we have these bases covered and there's little reason to worry

[quasi nexus]

Not you I meant the others. They got weirdly upset by it. Was just making an observation

Glad to know there's some protection against that though. Ty

[celest heron]

lol, thinking anyone was mad

[inland minnow]

ah, sorry about that misunderstanding. i've had quite the day and i'm rather tired 😅

[quasi nexus]

All good. Not easy being a mod.

[inland minnow]

anyway, we should move back to halo discussion here (: again, any concerns and questions can be brought to modmail, but trust that we have plans in place for everything

[quasi nexus]

Ty for your service ☺️

[rocky oasis]

well i got some objective theatre footage. if i get banned the only way it cant be reversed is if people deliberately choose to not do it out of spite lol

he kept killing me with “the guardians” 🤨 never seen that before

[celest heron]

I think they look into that type of stuff now instead of auto banning so you'll probly be alright.

[inland minnow]

"the guardians" is typically an out of bounds kill or an unattributable kill (in normal play at least). i think it's possible to get killed by the guardians in h3 via props that a player didnt drop, but i'm not entirely sure. definitely happens when you go out of bounds though. doesnt surprise me that hackers have found a way to just issue a guardian kill.

[grave ether]

In the off chance it happens, you can always appeal but I doubt it will.

But how did they know you had reported them? Did you respond in chat letting them know? Because that typically doesn't make the situation better and lets them know who to target and retaliate towards. Better to not respond, report, and move on

[lusty sundial]

So I was playing halo ODST for the first time and I noticed that it's night time during the first section with the rookie but it's day when it cuts to the perspective of the guy played by the Castle actor, even though they both dropped down from the ship at the same time.

[glass goblet]

time flies when youre having fun

[celest heron]

because rookie was knocked out and now he has to find his team.

[solemn portal]

It's a mystery.

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/gears-of-war-cole-train-gif-15215650645978726386

[glass goblet]

im debating on doing laso at some point

[west rock]

For which game?

And is it gonna be Playlist LASO or True LASO?

I say "True" LASO because some of the LASO playlists actually have specific skulls disabled

[celest heron]

well some of the skulls would make it easier if they were enabled.

[glass goblet]

playlist laso is more in line with how they would have been right

[celest heron]

most likely, but I believe it's how you would get the achievement to pop as well.

[glass goblet]

Playlist it is then

[wanton sigil]

Just played every game but ODST because Ion like it but, yeah the master chief story was good.

I liked 3 the best because there wasnt 3000 hour long arby missions

[twilit dew]

You should atleast try it

[analog salmon]

Halo 2 has a skull called Envy that gives Chief active camo like the Arbiter. Its not included in the playlist LASO so its a fair bit harder then "true" Halo 2 LASO

[glass goblet]

yeah halo 2 legendary without skulls is rough.

[twilit dew]

Oh

[analog salmon]

i think 343 just excluded a few skulls of each game that make it easier basically

i'd have to check for 3/ODST/Reach tho

oh the other difference from the classic Halo 2 LASO is that Iron didnt restart the mission

which nearly everyone who does LASO solo gets around anyway by just S&Qing when they die

its pretty silly they didn't just disable restart for SLASO tbh but is what it is

[west rock]

The people who manage to complete SLASO deathless runs are the real champions

[inland minnow]

@silk musk • discussion of that mod isn't permitted here

[silk musk]

Oh wow, I didn't know sorry ~! Why is it not allowed ?

[sullen kiln]

For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @upbeat plover.

[rocky oasis]

yeah based on the theatre footage he was meleeing me from afar and then set up a guardian autokill or something haha, strange

[rocky oasis]

ill do that, thanks. i have theatre clips for proof and they even admitted to using an alt account (for mods), which i also screenshotted

and yeah i did. i know i shouldntve, i just get angry when i see people being racist/bigoted/whatever

whats worse than a hacker and a racist. a racist hacker lol

[rocky oasis]

sorry haha, does that apply to all mods or just whatever mod they were referring to?

(i dont want to accidentally bring up mods only for it not to be allowed 🥲)

[signal ivy]

only certain mods can't be discussed

[rocky oasis]

i guess i could infer what theyd be haha, thanks for the clarification!

[signal ivy]

you're welcome

[rocky oasis]

how do you get the default smg in odst?

[solemn portal]

You don't. Same for the Battle Rifle. And the H3 Magnum.

[warped yew]

No way to get it

[civic sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[gritty beacon]

Hello

[solemn gazelle]

Do you think spartans canonically have the medal announcer installed for better performance

[west rock]

I mean

I would

[mossy spruce]

Anyone have any tutorials or things theyd recommend looking into for learning halo machinima? I’ve always been a fan and i kind of want to learn how its done

[lusty sundial]

I'm pretty sure you just have players in private multiplayer maps as actors, then have one guy with a mod that removes their hud watch the other players and record their screen.

[mossy spruce]

Alright good to know

[fiery isle]

What's Halo Machinima?

[mossy spruce]

Like Roosterteeths old show RedvsBlue. Machinima was a huge thing back in the day. I’ve noticed there isnt really alot anymore

[fiery isle]

I'll have to check that out

[solemn gazelle]

That's so awesome

[white birch]

There's about 7 different guides reaching as far back as Halo 3

For the main bit though, act it out in game using multi-player private sessions and film using theater through a capture card to your computer

[white birch]

It died when CGI became more viable, and when gaming became more main stream and solidified
Even RT began to reach out, before tripping on a stick and landing on a Claymore anyway

More recently the issue with MTX, accessibility and overall interest (and passion as well) has caused it to Stagnate

The greatest issue is finding people to actually do body acting for you because few people wanna sit around listening to someone tell them where to walk and what to do

[fiery isle]

The Halo games had pretty good actors in them

Ngl

[white birch]

They're paid
Machinima actors aren't

I've done machinima for over a decade now, from the end of the 3 era all the way to the modern with 5

Its all volunteer work for the chance at clout or fame or experience

Also: the last two games have had abysmal Theater issues. Like, absolutely abysmal

[fiery isle]

How so?

I wonder why they had issues?

[white birch]

Glitches. Recordings failing. Armor not showing up right. Bad controls. Connection issues to the recording devices

[fiery isle]

The MCC have fixed them, didn't they?

[mossy spruce]

Thank you for this

[mossy spruce]

Yeah i figured it was something along those lines

[white birch]

Not in the least

[fiery isle]

Damn

That's crazy

Welp, it is what it is tho, right?

[white birch]

The age of machinima came and passed
Now it's fan animation in blender

[plain dock]

whats with the new fomo passes

[crystal iron]

jenga, is that you?

[obtuse zealot]

hi

[crystal iron]

Wow

[obtuse zealot]

wow can i not post images

rip

[white birch]

They only let people they trust do that

Behold my cat

[obtuse zealot]

that's sso fricked up

cute cat tho

i wanted to show a weird glitch i got while playing halo ce on mcc

[crystal iron]

Welcome to mcc

[obtuse zealot]

lmaooo

on two betrayals i frequently came across flood infectors standing around bodies and wouldn't react to me approaching them

[balmy wedge]

I can't wait for the day I become worthy of posting your cat.
Someday.

[ruby knoll]

dog

[rugged quartz]

The announcer is a canon war games Ai thing

[white birch]

Palmer apparently hates it from what I remember

[trim hamlet]

Hmm , it would be cool if a driveable pelican were to be added to mcc (modders already did that)

[civic sundial]

You can spawn the Pelican in Halo 4's Forge, no mods required

[trim hamlet]

XD, in halo 4 u never have such cool best bro moments when driving vehicles

Which u have when driving falcons

Or elephants

[civic sundial]

That doesn't change what I said, you can spawn in a Pelican via Forge, no mods required

And the Elephant is not a great vehicle in Halo

Like, the Elephant is basically just an extremely slow platform that is easily boarded and only worked on one map, Sandtrap. But even then, it's not worth driving the thing

[sullen moon]

there's that one halo 4 mission I thought was cool

but yeah in multiplayer it's meh

[civic sundial]

The Elephant isn't in Halo 4

That was the Mammoth and I have so many issues with that level

[glacial tartan]

I remember ranked btb and how important the elephant was

what a time, sweaty elephant placement is a phrase we wouldnt have otherwise

[hallow ruin]

what up sigmas

[balmy wedge]

I once tried to get the elephant to work in the Ark mission in Halo 3, I got close, but pretty much everything in it had to change and I gave up. The idea of it is so cool and I'd love to see it again, but it's such a difficult thing to actually implement, especially considering the budget of getting such a vehicle to work, and then getting it to work in more than just one level.

[civic sundial]

Aye, it's a really cool concept, but it's very clearly not the kind of vehicle that Spartans (Which is what we play as most the time) would ever be utilising within combat. Sure it has a mounted gun, but it's clearly a vehicle not suited for combat

At least with the Mammoth, there's the justification of it carrying a mini Mac on its back, meaning it is likely used for long range bombardment or getting something that can destroy emplacements such as Forerunner particle cannons into a position where airborne equilevent can't reliably do so

[hallow ruin]

what up sigmas

[onyx latch]

I do think that a custom campaign mission where the player helps run interference with a bunch of Elephants would be neat.

[edgy forum]

New weapon is so much fun demolishing in Firefight

We literally destroyed a Phantom in less than 3 seconds

[civic sundial]

I'd like to see someone try making that honestly

[edgy forum]

Am I the only one who doesn’t hate this update nor the devs like everybody does?

[civic sundial]

You are not the only one

I think there's plenty of good here

Sure I wish it was the actual Fuel Rod Gun, but I can at least see that this is what the team can do with the resources they have

That and I think they should give the AR back the headshot multiplier. I am too used to aiming for the head once I strip shields with it

[keen silo]

I haven’t been able to play the new update yet, but it reads pretty good. I like the idea of season intro operations being extra thicc and the balance changes seem fair.

Do the heatwave changes also affect the heatwave variant?

[civic sundial]

I have no clue if it does. Let me test that

The answer is no, the Scatterbound is not affected by the Heatwave changes

[edgy forum]

I don’t know if it’s me but the AR now feels good

Can’t recall if it’s been accurate or slighted reworked

[keen silo]

Thank you!

[edgy forum]

Oh yeah, they should add the Fuel Rod SPNKR and MA5K weapons to the Weapon drills soon

I’d love to play with them around or rather I can use the academy to give me those weapons

[keen silo]

Does the MA5K get headshot bonuses? I’m guessing no

[civic sundial]

I believe it does but I can double check

[shell acorn]

Hey guys, I can't seem to get a straight answer by looking it up, so I wanted to ask it here: Is Survive the Undead still in matchmaking?

[white birch]

It was pulled to get workshoped further I'm fairly certain

[shell acorn]

Ah, dang. Thanks for the response tho

[brittle lion]

Is Castle Wars gone?

[edgy forum]

Been added to the Squad playlist

[stoic canopy]

Ugh.

Objective gametypes are fun when the teams are somewhat balanced, but when they're not they're so incredibly painful.

[warped yew]

Obviously

[brittle lion]

Did the match xp for firefight get nerfed? I just played a full 5 rounds and only got 150xp for the battle pass

[shadow turret]

shouldn't have
I was doing gruntpoc earlier and got like 300 a match

[wise dove]

Can someone send the yellow armor coating screenshots from the battlepass? I am at work and dont get off for another 5 hours
I only ask cuz the trailer for the BP looks like yellow and grey? maybe yellow and purple? idk maybe i'm going color blind lol

[stoic canopy]

I put it in the Show Off Your Halo Drip thread

[wise dove]

Thank you! What would you say the dominant colors are? Yellow and grey? is that a hint of green ?

[stoic canopy]

It's Yellow/Gray and your Techsuit is a Green Camo

[wise dove]

hmmmm, I kinda like that. Thank you for your help brotha!

[ruby lake]

oh, domain framework (coating) is still locked to the chimera core

thats
weird

[stoic canopy]

Some Coatings still are locked

Mostly the ones that rely on something specific to that core to look right I believe

[wise dove]

Dude, I absolutely love the Mirage IIC Core, BUT WHERE IS THE LORE

[stoic canopy]

It's literally just an upgrade SPI Armor.

It's lore is literally just "Cheaper than MJOLNIR to give SPARTANs something to wear that is still better than standard UNSC Marine/Army/ODST armor".

With special applications for long-term/infiltration missions where you might want something still powered but way less complicated and able to be user-serviced while in the field.

[ruby lake]

mfw some coatings are still locked to weapons and vehicles and not accessible to armor

-# how come past tense is on everything but on a spartan?

[spare finch]

For some reason when I have discord open, Infinite’s like “cya”

[strange geyser]

i cant find the Fuel Rod SPNKR in custom games is it like a forge only weapon and not able to be used for custom games?

[stoic canopy]

It's a skin for the Rocket Launcher, no?

[strange geyser]

no its a new weapon

they wouldent make a skin for the SPNKR and rename the weapon with the skin that makes no sense

[edgy forum]

Should be able to find it within a weapon rack or spawn

Or go to academy and spawn yourself with it

[shell acorn]

Damn, they didn't fix firefight xp this patch 😭

[sick egret]

i think we can all agree this update is a W

especially for ranked/competitive

[edgy forum]

Win for me because I got my Halo 3 ODST magnum weapon model. May not be the Halo 2 one but oh well!

[crystal iron]

Headed to bed but the new Infinite pass is total garbage per usual with 343i

[tulip tusk]

i kinda like passes bc they encourage meto play firefight to at least earn something. but idk havent seen it yet

[dusty olive]

Does anyone have any tips for being less competitive in Halo Infinite? I find I am getting too competitive and getting rageful, which is something I would like to work on

[solemn portal]

Errrhh. Give yourself a smaller objective than winning the game? Like beating "X" guy in kills or killing as many guys with a specific weapon as possible.
The source of fustration is important here. Also, if you're winning a game, performing well and are still angry after that, consider taking a break from the game. One more game won't help you.

[rugged quartz]

The pass is really good

[cyan wagon]

bro, does the enemies in firefight ads ? i don't want to get scoped from half way across a map from a grunt aiming plasma pistol

[dusty olive]

Usually my objective is to perform well and get a positive kd ratio

[shell acorn]

Whenever I start to get angry, I try to make small challenges for myself, like “What is the absolute dumbest way I can try to capture this flag?” And then I’ll keep hopping in razorbacks to try to cap solely by putting it in the back. Stuff like that! Use unorthodox play methods 🙂

[rugged quartz]

Anyone else really not liking all of these weapon nerfs that have been happening? It feels like they dampen the fun out of the game, guns having to be not that amazing at killing, more of a slog to use. Trying too hard to fit in within just it's specific niche that it just kills some of the fun of shooting at enemies

[shell acorn]

Oh I absolutely agree. I personally don't like the changes they made, ESPECIALLY with the AR and the Bulldog.

[rugged quartz]

Will they reverse any they made..?

I'd hope so but

[civic sundial]

At least bring back the headshot multiplier for them

[sick egret]

is there a section here where we can report bugs?

and post a clip to show it?

basically the bomb on Fortress can get stuck in the spiral staircases, it doesn't happen 100% of the times, it depends where the bomb lands but it's very easy to replicate the bug. It's obviously game breaking and can be abused easily.

[sullen kiln]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[edgy forum]

What are you talking about? It’s pretty good/decent

[edgy forum]

I feel like the AR now is more accurate and stable than it was before. Bulldog change made sense because it’s too much close and rather needs another shot which I’m fine with to eliminate someone.

[civic sundial]

I imagine some of the changes to the Bulldog are being made in preparation of the arrival of the Mutilator. My guess is that it'll serve as a more traditional Halo shotgun compared to the Bulldog's role in the sandbox

[edgy forum]

That’s a good argument yeah I can see why considering anything shotgun is in the works

[vale sentinel]

Ngl, I feel like we're being ripped off with this new season. Because it cost 1000 cr for 50 levels. While the older seasons were the same price but had 100

[edgy forum]

Season 5 was 50 Tiers and costed 1000 cr, I am not saying that price is justified but you definitely get a lot more than the 20 tier typical operation which is a fresh change once in awhile.

Unless you wanna go back to 20 tier again

[civic sundial]

They condensed down season 5 to 50 levels because previous seasons had allot of items that were repeated throughout, such as unlocking the same emblem multiple times or having a pair of shoulders split across multiple seasons

[olive brook]

I just played a firefight match on forest?

for some reason the match ended on hill 3 even though we were all alive

[atomic sapphire]

Like others said, set small goals, or play game modes you can just screw around. I usually try not to care if I win or lose, even in ranked. So to keep from raging when losing my goals are to have over 50 something % accuracy with over 200 shots fired. I try not to focus on positive KDA because on the games you lose, no matter how well you play, you may just get steamrolled.

I think it is very easy to rage when you focus on what you think other players should be doing or not doing, but you can’t control that. So, focus on yourself and improving your game.

[radiant sundial]

Try laughing whenever you get mad, it's a game, just try to have as much fun and see the bright and funny sides of things when you fail or die. the competitiveness isnt really a bad thing, this is a game where you're competing against other people after all, just do your best to have fun and be in the moment rather than focusing on winning all the time

[warped yew]

Literally just be a chill guy

[lone schooner]

just remind yourself that there are more fun things then winning, like total mongoose annihilation

[quartz pollen]

anyone else ever have an issue with "Fly You Fools" not activating in MCC? the package banshee achievement

Done it by using a second controller on another account
Achievement pops for the other account but not my real one 🥴

And I've tried it both as pressing the first button and the second button, neither worked

[glacial tartan]

Replace the achievement with any MCC achievement and the answer will be yes - the reporting of achievement completion is horribly inconsistent 😄

[edgy forum]

Bro I was playing FF on the map Forest and after the third capture of the Hill there was an objective area called “Finish the Mission” where if you stand in it it complete the game for you. I guess if you want to end the match early lol

[olive brook]

i experienced this too

why would they even add that

[wooden briar]

Just wanted to mention how admirable it is that you're being proactive to work on this. Many people refuse to improve themselves, and your effort to do so deserves a lot of respect. Wishing you well!

[dusty olive]

Thank you!

I think laughing at myself might be the best strategy, and not focusing on my performance in online matchmaking. 😂

[granite gust]

I am also competitive, and play this game competitively. The biggest thing is not missing the forest for the trees. Play to improve at the game and don’t worry about any one specific match result or personal performance. It is satisfying to grow as a player long term, and you will inevitably lose many matches and have bad games while you do it

[shrewd finch]

You can't learn if you never lose or do poorly. Loosing is inevitable, but so is winning.

[celest heron]

love getting teammates who are literally worse than bots.

[edgy forum]

Speaking of, I still remember bot bootcamp when it was a playlist

[ruby lake]

halo studios!! make pass tense an armor coating and my life is yours!!

[ruby lake]

i played most of that mode before they removed it and threw that into the 'ACADEMY' section of the menu

[edgy forum]

Oh dang I didn’t know it got moved to Academy

[ruby lake]

yeah, now its called "training mode.."

bot bootcamp was my #1 mode to play whenever i want to calm down after a busy day

[quartz pollen]

Its one of the only easy achievements I have left and just can't get it to pop 😔

[quartz pollen]

Training mode isn't the same thing as bot bootcamp. Training mode has always been there. They got rid of bot bootcamp and we have firefight around now anyway

[ruby lake]

damn

so they really did kill the mode

[quartz pollen]

yep 😔
you can always set up a self custom with 3 friendly bots and 4 enemy
but its not quite the same

[ruby lake]

yeah it isntt

i tried it once and i just felt
empty

[vale sentinel]

Is it me or the people whoever hop on the turret of a wraith or scorpion whenever you're driving the tank are the dumbest players?

like as soon as your vehicle gets boarded by an enemy they just run away and don't look back

[ruby lake]

nah, its not just you

[opaque thicket]

anyone else get a mongoose splatter kill but didnt get the achievement? (For mcc)

[vale sentinel]

So you get all the good gunners?

So you're luck is so good when you play ranked you get all the good teammates?

[crystal iron]

I wish I had teammates like Jelly

Me when the person who gets the sniper before me is the most lobotomized person ever

[quartz pollen]

I think some MCC achievements are totally fried right now

I've managed to unlock Fly, You Fools (banshee easter egg) on steam, but it still won't fire on my Xbox 🥴

[ivory glacier]

What is that new rocket launcher thing? I don’t want to get used to it. Its terrible

[uneven bison]

“Fuel rod spnkr” and it is indeed awful

[edgy forum]

I feel bad for the Halo YouTube channel that posts community stuff and the comments are filled with so much toxic/negative stuff. Word of advice; never engage with them. Nothing benefit comes from it.

[shadow turret]

Imo its great
Just a 6 shot Spnkr pretty much

[crystal iron]

If this is about the fuel rod gun, i would be pretty mad too if my favorite gun being the SAW came back as a slightly changed AR

Oh wait. . .

[edgy forum]

That was more of an SMG type

Or carbine if the weapon specialists want to be technical

Idk how anyone can be mad with the given circumstances the devs are with their resources and assets

Like seriously I don’t get the hate or resentment, it’s just a video game weapon

[rugged dome]

Any body else like doom here?

[uneven bison]

Ma5k was an already established weapon if that’s your point

[warped yew]

Sure but you cant deny the effort being put in was a bit less when your using slightly modified model of another gun

[warped yew]

I'm certainly not one of those peeps. I'm just a little bummed out with what we got but still. People are entitled to their opinions afterall

But like there's always a new weapon model for like each operation. Not to mention new armors (all in the shop ofc lmao).

[ruby lake]

bruh

[ruby lake]

i meant that you arent the only one experiencing this, i have my fair share of cowardly players too so

dont throw questions at me like im an answering machine smh

sounds like i ticked you off or something

[warped yew]

I feel like if some of the time making those weapon models and armor could've been moved to like making a more fuel rod looking SPNKR

Instead, we got this goofy ah FRG

[ruby lake]

about that "battle pass never expire" mention in that recent frontlines trailer,

i wonder if those paid armor sets within the pass will either

A: stay in the pass after the operation is done
or
B: sent straight to the shop after operation is done and the pass is downsized to 20 tiers

[warped yew]

[white birch]

Sounds to me like they're going to the store.

[shadow turret]

Free stuff will go to the exchange (so Hermes), and payed stuff will be in the store iirc
I think if you own the pass though, you get to keep it even after

[thick warren]

Spawns are so broken in assualt its crazy

[white birch]

Its got new playlist syndrome; everyones trying it and so you get ultrasweaty 8 stacks who coordinate like they're a hivemind.
Just how it is, I guess.

[thick warren]

thats squad battle assualt is bomb

[white birch]

Assault is the new playlist.

If its normal Assault, its still 4 stacks.

[shadow turret]

There's Assault and Squad Battle Assault

[cold sparrow]

The new map is just another recycled Halo 5 map. And it's actually a map I enjoyed a lot when Halo 5 was still around

[vale sentinel]

Nah, you didn’t tick me off. It’s just I didn’t understand your answer because you said I’m the only one to experience now you’re saying you’ve experienced your fair share. I only asked 2 questions. It’s not that hard to answer that. It’s not like I’m trying to make you design a working space elevator. 😄

[shadow turret]

They said you weren't the first time

[edgy forum]

Yeah funny enough how time has passed that now Halo 5 maps are throughly appreciated when they weren’t liked at first glance. Same with Halo 4

[crystal iron]

Well it's been a long time but I guess I.need to. Rush off the rust and play a few rounds of firefight...