#halo-discussion

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final scroll
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meh, the blood and gore was always such a minor point for me personally. i understand wanting it back but its not the end of the world that it got removed

unique halo
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Yeah

final scroll
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as realistic as a game could feel when you're a seven foot green plastic man shooting aliens with double barrel rocket launchers

frosty condor
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grounded

Jetpack enters the chat

final scroll
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only by totally upending the established art style, which worked for the story reach was trying to tell but flatly painting over halo 3 with reach's look wouldnt work because halo was always supposed to be a playable action movie with anime cues, not a WW2 movie

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reach worked because the story was dire, and the art style had grunge and dirt and messy flaws that matched the tone of the story. CE and Halo 2 were good because the art style matched the story THEY were telling

unique halo
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I understand your veiwpoint, but complaining about not being able to drain your lifeless comrades of their blood is just missing the point of halo

final scroll
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and thats the story of a seven foot plastic man shooting aliens with double barrel rocket launchers, taking it seriously is kinda missing the point

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and all this bickering over ratings is kinda pointless in the face of the truth... 343 are just game designers. they probably had nothing to do with the rating of the game, the decision to lower the games rating probably came from microsoft and 343 couldnt say no

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microsoft, the corporation that owns halo, wanted a bigger audience, and its easier to sell games to 13-year-olds if they dont need their parents permission to buy the game

unique halo
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That is most likely the cause of T rating

final scroll
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i have no idea if the choice to change the rating had any tangible effect, but the suits in charge probably thought it did

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when something is done for the benefit of shareholders, its probably stupid

unique halo
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The rating will probably be revoked, because microsoft didnt look into halo well enough and just slapped a rating that parents will like

final scroll
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you know what they say; hope for the best, prepare for the worst

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onwards to another "halo discussion" i've had this pitch for 10 years now why not get some community feedback: thoughts on bringing spartan ops back in the form of standalone campaign missions? some all new, some reimagining old levels, some reviving cut content?

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people are getting hyped for the halo 2 e3 mission tomorrow, imagine if that was playable in infinite, call it somethin snappy like "operation smoking mirror", your mission is to lead the charge through mombasa streets to a big covenant artillery battery, take it out. mission takes 10 minutes, simple objective, just a fun pve encounter

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could play as your multiplayer spartan, in a VR training simulator seeing old locales, revisiting cut content, i think it sounds fun

unique halo
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Maybe make a small game that jumps around cut missions, tying up loose ends and giving more perspective into the war

final scroll
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i'd like that :)

unique halo
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Kind of like how odst jumps around the squad

final scroll
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i cant remember the details right now, but there was a cut halo 2 mission set on a moon.. the gimmick was that the station lost power and you had to divert it to different sections to navigate, it sounded really fun

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you had to choose which rooms to unlock, check if that was the way forward, and divert power away if it wasnt

unique halo
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Cool

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Right, im going off for today

final scroll
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see ya around

unique halo
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Likewise

final scroll
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its under the M1 - Exploration entry

void estuary
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Happy 20th Anniversary of Halo 2 everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

sudden void
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Hi everyone! I hope you guys are all doing well! This is my first time ever posting in a discord server so I’m a bit nervous, but I need some help and guidance. I will be honest I don’t know that much about Halo and that’s why I’m here. I have a really good friend that I’d really like to surprise with an amazing Halo gift. I’m planning on making them a halo themed murder mystery Christmas countdown with puzzles and activities. I think I’d like it if they were a UNSC agent trying to solve the case of a missing person who was studying a Forerunner artifact (I’m not even sure if this plot would make sense. I’m desperate for help). I’d like for them to find pieces of the artifact, investigate the facility, and figure out what happened to that person. Kind of like a hunt a killer or Unlocked! game but one that’d take place over multiple days. Im here to gain more knowledge about the lore and how to keep it consistent and accurate. I have bought the games, am reading the books, watching YouTube videos, listening to the music, but I know I’m not gonna be an expert over night. My friend is the biggest fan of Halo and I just want to impress them. I’d love any help anyone can provide! It’d be cool to have people review the materials I’m making and play test the puzzles to see if they make sense. I’m just so excited to be a part of the community, learn more, and make a lot of friends! Thank you in advance for your help or for simply reading this!

frosty condor
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@weary pier ^ this sounds like something you’d enjoy

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The temptation to ping Haurspis is real

short flower
white birch
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Interesting stuff here

crystal iron
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how do u gamers feel about the commando

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im kinda hoping we see it in future titles

autumn orchid
void estuary
short flower
void estuary
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Depends on the timezone

short flower
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Timezones.

void estuary
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Its November 9th in Eastern Standard Time

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Am I wrong?

short flower
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No you’re correct

void estuary
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Okay then

weary pier
storm flicker
unique halo
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Do you not know what a time zone is?

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I cant tell if you're joking

sudden void
sudden void
# void estuary Hello

Hi!! The energy sword would be sick! Cosplaying the elite would be so difficult but I do think that would be hella fun! I’ll have to look into it

sudden void
sudden void
unique halo
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Different places on the planet have different times relevant to the sun

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Like if it's daytime in North America its night in eastern asia

short flower
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great… grunts should not hold grenades in their hands!

unique halo
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Yes

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I still can't tell if you're serious

tulip tusk
short flower
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Great Journey pass completed

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Been doing gruntfight for firefight now, it has infinite ammo

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Getting closer to gold general…

tulip tusk
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theres also another one with infinite ammo i think its the fiesta ones

short flower
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Yep that’s the one.

edgy forum
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Happy 20th birthday Halo 2

coarse dagger
# final scroll and all this bickering over ratings is kinda pointless in the face of the truth....

Correct, Halo Studios don't control game ratings. These are set by external bodies after that game has been completed, or close to completion.

Regarding ratings, the ESRB are the only bodies I have seen so far to change ratings for Halo games. All the others I've researched have remained mostly the same.

In UK/Europe, Halo has been PEGI 16 since CE. From what I can see, the M rating in ESRB means 17+ and T means anything above 13. There's barely any difference, it's probably just a change to the way the company rates products.

crystal iron
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ive been talking a lot of halo in general chat, i know its a halo server but have i been using it wrong? is the general more like an off topic?

void estuary
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I think you have been using it correctly

crystal iron
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alright

frosty condor
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This channel, Halo topics only

zealous panther
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Is it today? I forget the date

frosty condor
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H2 20th anniversary!

edgy forum
cunning jungle
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Probably shouldn't get banned for killing myself when I'm the only one left in the game..

void estuary
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If you are the only one in the game I don't think you will get banned

novel finch
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Halo 2 is 20 years old now!

unique halo
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You

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Why do you look so... similar to me?

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Why can't I be rad

copper berry
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Hey, i heard that the new halo 2 mission is released today, how can i play it? i heard it was a mod in workshop, but didn't find it

civic sundial
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It's not out yet

void estuary
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I think it might be released in the afternoon

copper berry
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it's 4:48pm here 😂

void estuary
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I think afternoon in the eastern standard time zone

copper berry
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ok, thx!

blazing garden
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Question about HALO 2 Regret level,

At the last gondola, when you arrive at the building Regret is hiding in, if you enter through the giant archway/door, does that trigger Regret and enemeis to spawn inside the boss room? Because I've seen people do a grenade+rocket jump to enter the boss room and block the entrances where enemies spawn without having Regret or any other enemies spawn. The one thing I've seen in common is that no one enters the giant archway/door but they don't mention if that trigger enemy spawns or not

cunning jungle
spare finch
ebon island
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Hi yo is mcc pc matchmaking still full of cheaters?

short flower
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Steaktac CTF to start the day

warm cairn
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Does anyone play Halo Infinite?

void estuary
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I have played it for a bit

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just taking a small break

short flower
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Been playing since test flights

warm cairn
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I like the updated game modes

void estuary
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The third person mode is cool and I think adding it to campaign we be a nice plus.

vivid marsh
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The best part of 3P firefight so far is the updated maps

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The camera mode is cool too I guess. It would be neat for campaign but Im not holding my breath

void estuary
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im not holding my breath either for a third person campaign happening.

shadow lion
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Happy Halo 2 Anniversary!

lusty wraith
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For Halo 2’s 20th can we get the music levels fixed in MCC:H2C pls and thank you

void estuary
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Does anyone still have their original halo 2 copy or their collector's edition of it?

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You can send pictures of it if you want

vivid marsh
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I have a steel case version around here somewhere. It's seen better days

crystal iron
civic sundial
celest heron
zealous panther
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for some reason i can't buy the armour on the halowaypoint... anyone have the same problem?

narrow agate
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the demo was amazing, after 20 years i can finally go play halo 2 lmao

short flower
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I still have a copy.

void estuary
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I still have the collector's edition version but It technically belongs to my dad

obsidian jay
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oh wait i decieded to by the game directly from them and not through steam

crystal iron
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would yall frown down upon it if someone got hero rank from just firefight

final scroll
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no

rugged quartz
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why would an yone frown

final scroll
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i know theres a lot of elitists and people will say achievements "dont count" if you used some kinda exploit to make it easier

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but even going firefight only, reaching hero is no small task

pseudo ledge
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Can the halo staff see our game ideas

coarse dagger
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Yep, feedback is looked over regularly

pseudo ledge
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Oh my god aren’t you staff

glacial tartan
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not like that though iirc

coarse dagger
pseudo ledge
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Can you still tell the studio staff game ideas from fans

coarse dagger
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No, that's not part of what we do

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Studios have people that read posts here and regularly collate and forward on feedback :)

pseudo ledge
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Halo staff read all of it to

crystal iron
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Why is there still no ingame statistics for Halo Infinite? The stats for Halo Infinite on Waypoint is horrible, it doesn't even say your total number of kills and deaths, on Halo Tracker it is better but still they don't even have your KDR by game mode and/or playlist

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It is annoying not being able to see your stats ingame, Halo 5 had all your stats in game by game mode also, Halo Infinite has more game modes and many more playlists than Halo 5 has, they should at least have stats for your overall KDR and your KDR for each playlist and number of games played in those playlists and/or your KDR by game mode

warped yew
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Yeah that's always bothered me now that I think about it. I wanna see my stats

crystal iron
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is there a way to make people leaving not cost lives in attrition?

tulip tusk
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i dont think so. but u can unblock respawns on player joined, so new joiners will spawn in even if team has 0 lives left

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perhaps there is some script way to keep track of # of players, then if that # decrease, add 1 life to lifepool

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but ive only done the unblocking script not the latter

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id say most pve campaigns forget the unblock respawn scripts which sux if playing attrition mode

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cuz then u inevitably have 0 life left, and like 5 players join and cant play until team loses. giant L situation

void estuary
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Is the server staff really going to listen to our feedback?

tulip tusk
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only in the topics for it like #1075147354610618438 i think. if in general chat it gets buried into oblivion

void estuary
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Okay

left snow
# crystal iron It is annoying not being able to see your stats ingame, Halo 5 had all your stat...

It is frustrating. I'd love to see more post game stats.

But not more tired and useless (often toxic) ones like KD.

I'd prefer things like kills per minute.

And damage break downs. Damage over time. How many times you inflicted first damage. Shields broken. Clean kills. Assisted damage. How much damage you regenerated after surviving an encounter. A table showing how much damage each player inflicted on each other. Damage over distance. Damage while moving. Damage by weapon. And so on...

crystal iron
white birch
warped yew
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Oh yeah seeing like most used weapon or most used weapon of each category

left snow
# white birch I always liked kills with certain weapons.

Post game stats should be; a) interesting. and b) educational

Which makes a mockery of the very boorish pre-occupation people have with KD.

Imagine if you could tap on the sniper rifle tab and see stats like; kills, damage, % to total, distance (shortest vs average vs longest), % no scope. head shots vs body shots. time from scoping so getting the shot off. unused bullets when killed. number of kills by enemy with sniper rifles you have dropped.

short heart
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if my whole team leaves a ranked game, what will happen if i leave

civic sundial
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And you believe that we're getting a remake of CE without Chief because of what? A video making baseless claims about what's next?

spring magnet
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HI keeps crashing my XSX is this a known issue?

left snow
short heart
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so i can leave safely

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cool, ive always stayed just in case. oops

heavy edge
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I have changed my ways I think sprint does belong in modern Halo

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I played the delta playlist and it is fun but I feel so slow and heavy

crystal iron
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i dont lean on any particular side of for vs against. honestly i think itd be cool if both audiences got what they wanted in the next game

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i dont really get why no-sprint is a limited time thing in halo infinite when keeping it in 24/7 would only mean having more people playing the game all the time

frosty condor
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You don’t need sprint when the maps are closer together and the action is only 10-15 steps away

crystal iron
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only thing i find particularly annoying with sprint is the slide spam, makes some people ridiculous to play against. but removing sprint over that would be the nuclear option. just have to figure out how to make that less abusable

left snow
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I love the feeling of sprint and slide. And clamber.

Still a bit undecided about thrust. I miss it - but it was a bit OP in Halo 5.

Not going into the H2 playlist. I hated the last one.

short flower
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Most people may not wanna do legendary firefight… but its point multiplier is worth it

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I kinda don’t do reg anymore id just be chillin on gruntfight

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Okay lost that because too many bipbaps… why do the gruntfight grunts throw so many gosh darn grenades???

civic sundial
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Is catch on?

short flower
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Nope…

void estuary
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Because they can

frosty condor
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They just wanna go back to their food nipple

analog salmon
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it almost feels like a bug when it happens

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i just miss when you could hear how close a plasma nade is to you in the old game

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even with catch on i feel like its way easier to know if your close to a plasma nade in Halo 3 then it is in 4/Infinite

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you can hear plasma nades in Infinite, you just can't tell if they're right next to you or out of blast range

summer aspen
pseudo ledge
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I wonder if halo staff will take my idea

uneven bison
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Don’t bother with staying tbh you’ll almost always lose

analog salmon
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you can always leave a ranked game with unbalanced team numbers except in the rare case the game starts unbalanced and doesn't end itself

trim storm
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Anyone have some tips for cea laso?

tulip tusk
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dont die

trim storm
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I tried it for a bit as a test run

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I died to a grenade immediately after grabbing cortana

deep valve
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rate halo 4

tulip tusk
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cool story and mantis i just dont like how it looks. forerunner stuff looks good though but the other graphic stuff always bothered my eyes

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esp multiplayer, warthog noise and br sound are weird

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and spartan colors lol

trim storm
deep valve
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you need someone praising it for it to be overrated

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the best part about halo 4 is that it's not halo 5

inland minnow
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wish i had that image from before infinite released that was like a chart of how over the years, perception of the later games has gone from "this game is bad" to "this game was underrated" or something

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feels as ever-relevant as that one infinite beta support page that had

- m&k players feel like controller has advantage```
tulip tusk
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every time 🤣

final scroll
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next to nobody liked halo 4, and most of my posts talking about how cool halo 4 was got banned because everyone assumed i was a troll

trim storm
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Halo 7 finna go crazy

deep valve
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the people who like halo 5 only like the multiplayer

final scroll
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i agree but i loved halo 5 too

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including campaign

deep valve
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the campaign story requires you to watch every halo book lmao

final scroll
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no????? i didnt check out any of the new books and i followed it perfectly

deep valve
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eh

final scroll
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whats so hard to understand about "giant robots called guardians are destroying colonies, we need to stop them"

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the only prior halo lore thats required to understand the plot is stuff like "why are some aliens friendly, who was cortana, whats a forerunner" all of that stuff is explained in games

deep valve
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ehh if that's how you describe it

final scroll
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my biggest complaint with the story is how much is flatly told to the player instead of letting us experience it

deep valve
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playing halo 5 like doom is the only way

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ignore the story, enjo- oh wait you can't have fun with the gameplay

final scroll
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skill issue, i can

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i jest, of course. i understand that halo 5's gameplay is not the same as previous entries, and if you really really really love previous halos then 5 isn't gonna be your cup of tea

deep valve
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man it's somehow worse than halo 4 from what I heard

final scroll
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from what you heard? have you never played it?

deep valve
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I don't have an xbox lmao

final scroll
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wow.

deep valve
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real

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you can tell a game is objectively bad without playing it, I mean how could you call star wars outlaws or cyberpunk 2077 (at launch) good games

final scroll
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i just dont think you can

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i dont think halo 5 is objectively bad, and i actually played it. you are just copying what other people have told you to think about it

deep valve
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I'm not buying a whole console for one game

final scroll
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its not about shame, ex-devs who used to work there said they were working on a port and it just wasnt feasible

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it was hard to do, it was taking a lot of time and a lot of money, and that money wouldnt be returned because its so widely hated that very few people would buy it

deep valve
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good games don't have this much hate

final scroll
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unless people who have never played it simply say they hate it and its bad because thats what they heard from someone else who never played it either

deep valve
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what can I say besides hate spreads faster than love

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and love spreads fast

final scroll
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doesnt help that love doesnt kill hate, but hate absolutely smothers love

deep valve
final scroll
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how do you KNOW it has little to no redeeming qualities

deep valve
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because people would say halo 5 was underrated if it did

final scroll
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people do say halo 5 is underrated, im LITERALLY telling you that RIGHT NOW

deep valve
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clickbaits and all

final scroll
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but you have decided you dont like halo 5 without giving it a chance

deep valve
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if it was on steam, I might give it a chance cuz I can just refund it

tulip tusk
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u would prob enjoy halo 5 but moreso when it was active, the warzone and stuff was a good time years ago

deep valve
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a good campaign doesn't need the game to be active. people play halo for the multiplayer, but I have always sucked at multiplayer in every game

tulip tusk
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well yeah lol. apex 7 was one of my fav maps i would like seeing it in the next halo

deep valve
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the thing about multiplayer is that you're either really great at one game or you're barely decent in every game. it's hard to master every game

tulip tusk
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yea i never master any

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i really do respect the amount of weapons and vehicles in halo 5 it was insane how many

deep valve
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getting your butt kicked is not exactly fun, especially when the lobby is filled with sweaty tryhards

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surviving 5 mins is a miracle in some of these more competitive multiplayer games

final scroll
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i also really loved the movement, halo 4 explained that every S-IV is equipped with big thruster packs (the giant blocks on the back) but could only use them when you pick up the armor ability, i thought that was lame

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then 5 let us use the thrusters all the time, it made the S-IVs feel distinct from the S-IIs

tulip tusk
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ground pound was fun too

deep valve
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"armor ability" sounds too gamey and arcadey to be actual lore and filler plot

final scroll
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thats because armor abilities are a gameplay mechanic and the lore doesnt work like that

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chief always has access to the thrusters, but during gameplay you can only use them when you pick them up

deep valve
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ludonarrative dissonance

signal ivy
final scroll
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similarly, when spartans pick up active camo in the lore they can move at top speed and it works just the same, but during gameplay your camo only works perfectly when moving slowly

deep valve
signal ivy
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yeah armor abilties started in Reach

tulip tusk
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yea for a game always go for fun stuff

deep valve
signal ivy
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and sprint and jetpack etc etc

deep valve
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wish they removed armor lock

final scroll
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yeah armor lock was an armor ability that could only be used when picked up, but Noble team could use it any time (and did in some cutscenes)

deep valve
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would make the game 20x better

tulip tusk
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what i feared most was jetpack dmrs so annoying to be shot by guy 500 ft in air

deep valve
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armor lock is op if you have a team with actually competent players

final scroll
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everything is op if you have a team of competent players

deep valve
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well yes

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but you're a standing shield

final scroll
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actually now im curious, if you got 2 pro e-sports teams to battle in reach, but one team could only use armor lock and the other could only use another ability, which would win

deep valve
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bubble shield wasn't that bad but armor lock? hell nah

lusty wraith
final scroll
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YES my favorite ability

lusty wraith
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I had this disgusting hologram play like a month ago, I went crazy

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The classic motion tracker bait

final scroll
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oooh, always a good play

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my favorite thing to see in Reach and 4 multiplayer is everyone starting the game with stuff like invis, sprint, and jetpack, and then they fall for my hologram a few times before half the enemy team switches to hologram themselves

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(except i know all the tricks with hologram so i dont fall for it <3 )

short heart
south ridge
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Spartan 1337 is my favorite isekai protagonist.

edgy forum
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Wonder what’s gonna happen tomorrow 😶

analog salmon
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Monday happens

edgy forum
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Other than it being Monday

crystal iron
near stirrup
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I've been having a FatalError problem with MCC and I've been pulling my hair out trying to fix it. Hoping maybe someone
here knows the solution.

sullen kilnBOT
tulip tusk
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aaaaaaaa the custom game crashing sux esp considering how long it takes to fill up lobbies

keen silo
void estuary
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Has anyone heard the mod of halo 2 where the only enemies are jackal snipers?

narrow agate
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Isn't tomorrow the 10th anniversary of MCC release?

round forge
deep valve
coarse dagger
vocal ivy
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Halo

void estuary
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Halo

cyan wagon
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Halo?

left snow
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Just played a few games in the new classic playlist.

Swore I wasn't going to. Hated the Halo 5 one.

But I have to admit it was Ok. Still prefer sprint and clamber et al.

What it does show to me is that Infinite does a pretty good job of marrying the two.

void hound
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are there really no other unlimited use load out magnums in halo 5?

short flower
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And Gruntpocalyse and their 10 million grenade throws strike again… fantastic!!!

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Time to turn that version off.

crystal iron
short flower
void hound
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it just seems very odd

crystal iron
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i wanna say theres ones with just a single attachment like optics that u can keep using

civic sundial
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Whispered Truth and the CE Magnum are both power weapons

short flower
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So now I am officially tired of gruntfight

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I’m tired of the excessive bipbaps and extreme amount of grenade throws. I’m turning gruntpocalypse off

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No catch skull on!

cinder widget
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Is the halo 2 mode acting slow af? Or is it just me

void hound
frosty condor
edgy forum
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Happy Veteran’s Day

frosty condor
unique halo
short flower
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Happy Veterans Day, Happy MCC Day

warped yew
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Ideas for vehicle's in the next game. I think it would be cool to toggle perspectives on vehicle's like 1st person, 3rd person, or seeing the back of the vehicle

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Another one could be fixing or revamping the drift on vehicle that can powerslide

final scroll
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i still think it would be cool if you could enter vehicle passenger seats with a turret!

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everyone talks about getting into scout hogs with turrets like jorge did, but what about onto other things like tanks and mongooses and hornets

warped yew
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Yeah that would be cool. Being slow with a turret kinda ruins the fun so a way for peeps to become more mobile with turrets would be cool

final scroll
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and it wouldnt be too busted because your actual manuevering is in the hands of someone else, you dont just get free speed for nothing, you gotta give up control

balmy wedge
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I feel like the balance could get thrown out pretty aggressively with that, a warthog with two turrets would be horrifying, and turrets don't need the same precision as the other weapons, but I am surprised they had such a cool moment with Jorge clipping his turret onto a truck that players couldn't replicate. I don't think it should be possible with any secondary seat (maybe they could sit alongside unable to use it), but a specialized vehicle that serves as a custom warthog for players to clip a turret onto would be amazing.

warped yew
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Yeah but if the next Halo follows Infinite's sandbox, vehicles still get crapped on

civic sundial
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I remember discussing ways of tweaking shock damage with someone a while back so that those weapons aren't as oppressive against vehicles

warped yew
balmy wedge
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I don't believe so, I wish.

final scroll
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i always thought it should be the opposite of an emp and it should overcharge vehicles

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EMP makes em stop, overcharge makes them hold straight forward and unable to stop

balmy wedge
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That would be so funny.

civic sundial
final scroll
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like that old glitch where choppers would get launched into the sky by emps

balmy wedge
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I heard one recommendation that I'll never let go, someone suggesting shock weapons reducing a vehicle's speed and firing rate rather than stopping it outright.

civic sundial
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I wouldn't be against that

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Like, let me slow them down enough that the vehicle falls into a death pit

balmy wedge
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And clever drivers could figure out ways to counter the stun rather than have to give up on their car entirely.

warped yew
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But the PP should be the only one that actually emps a vehicle because it has a slow projectile and it has to charge up before it shoots

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And it's iconic anyway

balmy wedge
#

Agreed, unless the Halo: Reach grenade launcher makes a return.

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I think the plasma pistol is a weapon whose name should not be abbreviated...

warped yew
#

Y not?

final scroll
#

you dont like pp?

civic sundial
#

The PP is a great way of shortening it

balmy wedge
#

I don't want pp shot at me 😔

warped yew
#

What's wrong with the abbreviation?

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PP is great

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Also I found a gauss hog in the custom object browser in Infinite

civic sundial
#

What if each faction's weapons had a single one that could cause EMPs. Lets say the Reach grenade launcher comes back for the UNSC, mean the UNSC and Banished would have an EMP weapon each, what if there was a Forerunner weapon capable of doing so as well?

final scroll
#

splinter grenades emp'd

warped yew
#

Maybe but there would have to be balancing between these guns so they're all useful in their own little unique way

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But how do you make the emp fair for others on the receiving end if you have to balance 4 different types?

balmy wedge
#

I'd want a short-range weapon that can EMP, I like the high-risk/high-reward concept.

civic sundial
#

Aye, like how the PP requires a charge up for EMP and the GL requires a trigger hold

balmy wedge
#

It needs no buffs but a boltshot that could EMP with its charge could be rad.

civic sundial
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Maybe the charge shot deals no damage to balance it out, it's a pure EMP shot

balmy wedge
#

Me no like that

final scroll
#

halo 2 plasma pistol did that and it felt.. not good

civic sundial
#

Fair

balmy wedge
#

I don't recall the Halo 2 Plasma Pistol stunning vehicles.

civic sundial
#

Wait? Did the H2 PP have EMP? I thought Halo 3 introduced its EMP functionality?

glacial tartan
#

No H2s pp did not have emp 😄

final scroll
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it didnt stun vehicles, but the charge shot dealt no damage to enemies, it was purely a shield stripper and nothing else

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player emp in a sense

warped yew
balmy wedge
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Please tag me in discussions when replying! I'm too old to be reliably present to see your responses without the notification.

final scroll
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if i remember correctly (and i probably dont because i dont play h2) it was strong enough to eat straight through overshields as well

warped yew
#

But the PP suddenly having only a shield stripper use kinda ruins it because now it's very situational when you have guns to midly strip the shield but the deal real damage

final scroll
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right, which is why im sayin it didnt feel good

balmy wedge
#

I honestly think shield stripping via plasma overall has gone gradually downhill since Halo: Reach. Halo: Infinite brought it back, but because most of the Banished don't use shielding anymore it's not as reliable as it used to be.

civic sundial
#

Plenty of shielded Banished appeared in Infinite

warped yew
#

I say this. Keep it functioning like it's old self with reliable damage output when it's uncharged or charged, but make the charged versions projectile travel slow enough that it's only usable in close to mid ranges

balmy wedge
#

Most of my experience recently has been from Firefight.

warped yew
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So that other emp guns can shine in the longer ranges

warped yew
civic sundial
#

Plus Jackal shields too

warped yew
#

Oh yeah

balmy wedge
#

I don't think Grunt ultras use their shields in Firefight.

balmy wedge
# civic sundial Maybe the charge shot deals no damage to balance it out, it's a pure EMP shot

I adore the dynamic of Halo 4 boltshot right now. If it was added to a game but got any nerfs, I would want its base functionality to remain the same. A reliable mid-range headshot weapon against grunts, and a reliable short-range tool against elites. Forerunner weapons, like the heatwave and sentinel beam, fit a great niche of Jack of all trades while you stow away your power weapon for a knight or hunter.

civic sundial
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The big problem it had in Halo 4 was that it was a loadout weapon, like, spawning with a pocket shotgun was super broken in the multiplayer

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Had it been something you had to find on maps, it would've been fine

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Still annoying mind you but not as bad

final scroll
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i mean ill put up with annoying if it means i get to see a gun BESIDES the BR in every single game

civic sundial
#

Fair

rugged quartz
civic sundial
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I just hope we get an SMG at launch for the next game (And please let it be Halo 5's M20)

balmy wedge
uneven bison
#

You know I don’t see many people miss dual wielding speaking of smg

balmy wedge
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I do 😔

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I know it wouldn't fit Infinite at all though

civic sundial
#

I do but I understand why it's not been in a game since Halo 3

uneven bison
#

It was cool aesthetic wise but it made certain weapons worse than they needed to be I felt like

balmy wedge
#

They figured out how to make it work for Halo 2: Anniversary's multiplayer, that's good enough for a "they can figure out its balance"!

final scroll
#

i liked dual wielding, but i did think that bungie overcompensated by nerfing weapons.. i'd be happy to have it back if weapons werent nerfed into the ground to support it

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felt the same way about armor abilities in reach, sprint was cool but they made maps larger to account for the speed... so at th end of the day, you moved slower. and the only way to move at "normal speed" was to sprint

balmy wedge
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It's hard to imagine how they could expand on dual wielding without copying Halo 3 or 2: Anniversary. Even in terms of weapons, I can't really see Halo 4, 5, or Infinite's smaller weapons in a dual wielding setting, maybe the Mangler as the exception. A dual wielding disruptor would be evil.

final scroll
# balmy wedge It's hard to imagine how they could expand on dual wielding without copying Hal...

i just dont think its possible to implement dual wielding in a way that satisfies everyone...
either weapons arent nerfed, and getting 2 gives you effectively double damage so dual wielding is the single most effective way to fight. or single weapons are nerfed and the only way to make them effective is to dual wield, which kinda makes using only one kinda pointless (and why not just make a "dual wielded" weapon that you pick up as one entity then). or or, dual wielding weapons are nerfed when wielded, and are just as effective as one, which makes dual wielding purely cosmetic

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three solutions that some people will like and others will hate :/

balmy wedge
#

I actually can see the third working, solely because the dynamics are also important.
Like having a plasma rifle and SMG will shred shields faster than a single SMG despite the latter being more powerful courtesy of the plasma.

I could also see nerfs elsewhere, like, instead of dual wielding weapons being half as powerful, they're just a little less powerful but have a lot more bloom so they almost necessitate being closer range. I think that Halo 3 and 2: Anniversary do something like that but I could be wrong.

warped yew
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I say dual wielding should be balanced via the single handed weapons 1st. Then dual wielding, instead of 2 times the damage, it's enough to be powerful but not overpowered

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But to further balance this, the overall accuracy is nerfed when you shoot both guns at once, but accuracy is unchanged when you shoot 1 gun

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That way that dual wielding is further encouraged is rush down tatics

rugged quartz
vivid marsh
civic sundial
rugged quartz
#

Indeed

ruby knoll
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i like the p90 style mag

vivid marsh
#

I have discovered that spartan ops solo is not very fun

crystal iron
analog salmon
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its not exactly fun but its not tourture

final scroll
#

but the plasma pistol is legit one of my favorite weapons in all of halo, and i want to be able to use it without feeling like im doing a ridiculous challenge run

rugged quartz
crystal iron
#

we finally found him

#

John Halo

final scroll
low hollow
#

been getting into a few matches but none of them are the right maps for me to get splatter and environamentalist achievements in for halo 2 😦 do the maps have certain modes?

final scroll
#

just to be clear, are you searching in halo 2 anniversary or classic?

low hollow
#

anniversary

final scroll
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okay, in that case, your best bet for splatters is to search in big team battle modes, 8v8 and so on.. lots of vehicles in those maps

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as for environmentalist, the only one i can remember off the top of my head is the lockout remake "lockdown", if you shoot the big stalactites on the maps ceiling they should crumble and fall onto the tower which kills anyone up there

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but, its possible that wont be available if your enemy shoots them down before taking control of the tower just to make sure you cant, so idk i guess Good Luck Buddy

low hollow
#

thanks, i'll try out btb and 8v8. i've been playing 4v4 and tryna get lockdown map but no luck today. im from oceania region so it's hard to find a game already. 😦

final scroll
#

good luck, you got this o7

celest heron
#

hmm, interesting

final scroll
low hollow
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i think there's nobody playing btb 😦

low hollow
#

i have 40 environmentalist medals but only 6 splatter 😔

celest heron
#

are you trying to get the splatter achievement?

low hollow
#

yes
i need both splatter and environmentalist
nobody plays btb and it's hard getting the achievements done in lockdown when once in a blue moon i get that map in matchamking and then everyone is jsut avoiding the area with ice and coils 😦

#

i am missing four halo 2 multiplayer achievements.
Shook the Hornet's Nest, Triple Threat, Roadkill Rampage, Rock and Coil Hit Back

tiny horizon
#

Hear me out, it’s not the end of the world that a little colour pattern for your character in a free to play video game is too expensive for you to buy.

celest heron
low hollow
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ah thanks. i think i need to play during US gamer peak hour

#

im not getting any matches rn 😭

rugged quartz
#

That thruster change feels absolutely horrible for sure

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It's not a small nerf either, it's a considerable ammount of time

unborn stirrup
#

omfg dude halo 2 campaign is so good this is my 3rd playthrough but this time on 4k 240hz monitor with max graphics and the campaign is so good even without the graphics looking good

void estuary
#

I am happy that you are liking halo 2's campaign

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By the way, what difficulty were you playing it on?

unborn stirrup
#

legendary, the only way to play

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the jackal snipers are no joke.....

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literally the deadliest enemies in campaign

void estuary
#

Jackal snipers will show you no mercy

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If they see you will get instantly killed

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That is why they are talked about so much in halo 2 legendary difficulty

low hollow
void estuary
#

My word of advice is if you ever play halo laso play it more similar to stealth game because staying out in the open is just going to get you killed immediately

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Another word of advice: Only play laso if you have played halo for a long time or you are willing to just die hundred of times throughout parts of the level

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Those are my two words of advice

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or rather sentences to be exact

unborn stirrup
void estuary
#

Halo 2 Laso is the definition of Insanely difficult for many reasons

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  1. You can't see your weapons in your hand except for maybe shadows
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  1. You don't heal after taking damage
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  1. It takes only a few shots before you're dead
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By the way, don't spoil any other reasons

#

Because of halo 2 laso being so difficult, very little people have probably ever gotten a successful no death run

sturdy kernel
#

No death run💀💀
Random elite or jackal: I am a joke for you?

unborn stirrup
#

its such genius game design with the part when there is the water floor and the camo grunts/ elites on the regret mission
after the hunters part

low hollow
#

Are there any maps with vehicles in 1v1 and 2v2 halo 2A multipalyer?

void estuary
#

All enemies are insanely difficult in halo 2 laso

deep valve
#

next year halo 2 is old enough to drink in america

autumn forum
#

Should Halo 5 PC Port a good thing?

final scroll
#

yea

autumn forum
#

I mean the rest of Halo 5 Guardians package features (campaign, Multiplayer, Warzone Firefight,etc)

final scroll
#

more halo is more happy wahey

civic sundial
#

If nothing else, I want them to bring the campaign to PC for the modding potential

autumn forum
#

I mean Halo 5 10th Anniversary is close so a campaign port is alright

frosty condor
#

There’s coop in halo infinite now

autumn forum
frosty condor
civic sundial
#

Remind me to grab some people to get the co-op achievements some time

signal ivy
#

I need co-op achievements

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civic sundial
#

Maybe if you have time over the weekend, I can help get those

crystal iron
#

Which playlist can i use the new ma5k?

celest heron
#

h2 playlist and firefight

radiant sundial
celest heron
#

oh, alright. I missed it in the announcement where they said it would move to other playlists as well

tulip tusk
#

im rewatching the Halo 2 anniversary cutscenes again 🤣

leaden idol
signal ivy
#

my DMs are off and I'm working

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I don't want to work on achievements right now, I was just posting a picture based on previous discussion

smoky sedge
#

Anyone having issues with MP in Halo Infinite just now? No game modes loading, have closed the game, steam etc. but same issue

leaden idol
#

me

harsh plover
coarse dagger
#

If you're having issues in Infinite right now, please make sure and report an outage or flag an issue on the support site

sullen kilnBOT
#

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

harsh plover
#

Only three playlists visible to me and those are Workshop 1v1, Squad Battle and Infection

vivid viper
#

yeah they shut down all the playlists for some reason

leaden idol
deft pier
#

same

leaden idol
signal ivy
#

wut

edgy forum
#

I ate the servers guys

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Sorry I was hungry 😔

coarse dagger
vivid viper
#

some players? so you can go in and search for anything you want?

coarse dagger
#

I have no idea if everyone is affected, so I can't say everyone is affected

edgy forum
#

I can’t do anything

rigid fable
#

its only showing me this option

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workshop 1v1 showdown

coarse dagger
#

You can try restarting your game/console and see if that helps

leaden idol
#

firefight normal and 3p still missing on my halo... after restarting a couple of times

tulip tusk
leaden idol
#

i am in game now

river minnow
jade pebble
#

not able to even launch weapon drills

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itll launch and just reset the play button

cunning jungle
#

I know 1v1 is the new mode and all but it's a bit much making it the only mode in the game

leaden idol
coarse dagger
leaden idol
edgy forum
#

At least they aren’t Destiny 2 servers

wooden briar
ionic chasm
#

Hi everyone, just downloaded halo infinite. Looking to play some multiplayer, for some reason I cannot play multiplayer? It says I haven't selected a game mode, but there is also no game modes for me to select? Also, when trying to play 1v1 it just times out after trying to find me a player. Any ideas why this could be?

leaden idol
ionic chasm
#

Oh ok thank you. Cause i'm a new player I assumed it was something my end

coarse dagger
#

It's being looked into at the moment

leaden idol
#

should be back in .... 30min max i hope

ionic chasm
#

That's fine 🙂

coarse dagger
#

Try restarting your game and see if that helps

ionic chasm
#

Yeah already tried that i'm happy to wait

leaden idol
#

have you been to the academy yet? it's a good place to start and you can also get some achivements there

strong hamlet
#

Oh,i restarted and it Works

#

Thx

vivid viper
#

my playlist is back to normal now

gritty sequoia
#

My MCC fileshare just practically wiped itself, it was fine last night but I checked just now and I only have 6 maps on my fileshare, is this fixable?

south lion
#

Is there any word on an anniversary update for MCC?

shrewd finch
ionic chasm
#

What's the anniversary update meant to be?

shrewd finch
#

There was potential for an update to the Master Chief Collection for its 10th anniversary, since the MCC could really use one last update, but that didn't happen unfortunately.

edgy forum
#

Eh who knows maybe something will happen

#

Don’t let your standards disappoint yourself in today’s age that’s my advice

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Only you can disappoint yourself, nobody else

#

I was however grateful that we stilll get to play MCC in 2024

#

Gotta shoutout to the man Pierre Hintze for saving it

shrewd finch
hoary basalt
#

halo mcc fileshares are only showing half the maps in peoples fileshares?

#

did they cut everyones fileshares down to 10?

low blaze
#

Was the e3 map for halo 2 ever actually intended to be in the game?

tulip tusk
#

i dont think so was just a showcase

#

thats why it was linear and the marine driver and shadow, phantom vehicles follow set path and stuff

low blaze
#

Everything is just there to wow the audience

signal ivy
#

yes

#

that was the point of it

low blaze
#

Half my the time spent playing this was getting lost because I accidentally skipped a trigger

left snow
#

I don't know when they did it - but thank you Halo Studios for adding the ability to set a start score in custom games.

Our group played some games last night - 3 v 3 - and we could set a handicap to who we thought was the better side. Which is very useful seeing as we range from Gold to Onyx in skill sets.

One game we gave Cobra a 20 point start and the game finished 50-49. Awesome!

spare finch
#

can the empty server autoban be removed, a match I was in took a while to load and so everyone left except me

#

It feels extremely unfair when that happens

low blaze
#

How far into development was alpha moon when it was scrapped?

spare finch
#

Got two horrible matches in a row after I got a really good one, does anyone know when this will be fixed?

#

Can't even play BTB because of it

tropic dome
#

Update the music on halo infinite, need the drums and bass back the guitar is getting annoying

spare finch
#

are you sure you aren't playing Halo 2?

#

because as far as I'm aware there is drums, play firefight

#

there's drum music in firefight.

tropic dome
#

I’m on halo infinite

warped yew
#

Bring back some rock for Halo

tropic dome
#

Meant to say lobby music for Halo infinite it has this depressing guitar solo music… like I want to be pumped up with the old bass and Drums music

wooden briar
tropic dome
#

I actually downloaded master chief collection the other day got a good buzz from halo 4

stable blade
knotty flower
crystal iron
lusty wraith
unborn stirrup
#

im excited for the next halo game

#

imagine if they made a mode where it was similar to battlefield and it was spartans vs elites and there were 4 different classes/play styles and has some elements of invasion from halo reach

#

i love halo so much ❤️

knotty flower
void estuary
narrow nacelle
#

found something

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its a video about the athtetic halo should take going forward

onyx latch
#

Ew

narrow nacelle
#

why Ew?

civic sundial
#

Halo shouldn't be trapped in 2001 for how it looks

#

Like, the artstyle Infinite has is near perfect. All we need now is the return of some H4/5 designs, such as the Covenant vehicle designs being used for Sword of Sanghelios vehicles

tulip tusk
zealous panther
#

tho the points he making is something out of pokemon games level of copium

tulip tusk
#

Ah yea the Halo video essay guy. I sleep 😴

#

Don't even know if there is any content left for a halo vid essay, but artstyle for next game been done to death

zealous panther
#

the only thing i would change from infinite style going forward is probably make everything darker. i just want more creepy vibes with the flood or more nighty environments

vague night
tulip tusk
#

me after the 500th dark and gritty halo video essay
🙂 🔫

vague night
swift fiber
#

@candid portal

#

who are you and why did you send me a invite?

tulip tusk
civic sundial
edgy forum
#

Halo should always Evolve and not stay the same for 20 years

#

That’s literally how COD has been doing in terms of graphics and gameplay

#

They just introduced the Omnimovement in BO6. My friend was like “I wonder what this would be like in Halo”

tulip tusk
#

ok

vague night
# tulip tusk me after seeing plushies 😈 🧨 🔥 🔥

NOOO!!! You stay the HELL away from my plushie pile! They listen to my rants and sorrows at night, being one of the only things keeping me sane this cursed world!!! I'd rather have the gravemind barge in here and EAT US ALL ALIIIVE!!

tulip tusk
#

great reference AHAHA!!

narrow nacelle
swift fiber
celest heron
edgy forum
#

Idk like keep the fusion coil throwing mechanic I love it

shrewd finch
civic sundial
#

And your source for a CE remake is what?

#

Not to mention that would also mean the series is constantly looking back opposed to trying to move forward

keen silo
#

Days without CE Remake Mention: Zero

cyan cave
#

LOL

cyan cave
crystal iron
#

faithful art direction but higher fidelity would be fantastic, like the metroid prime remaster

edgy forum
civic sundial
crystal iron
#

regardless of if a remake is actually in the works, regardless of the differences between remaster and remake, thats just my 2 cents on the matter

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ce has a unique look future halo games dont really capture, and id appreciate them sticking to that in some way if they were remaking it

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if it got infinite style it wouldnt be bad, but i feel that we have yet to see an armor coating matching the mk 5 armor kit that actually looks faithful

visual nest
#

my halo mcc wont work

#

everything ive tried didnt work

crystal iron
#

& if that's a bad example, then what do you have to say for the dead space remake

tulip tusk
visual nest
#

lemme chedck

#

not seeing much with what i have, it just says "multiplayer is not allowed."

#

Im also on pc

tulip tusk
visual nest
#

oh alright

tranquil kelp
#

anyone having issues match making on mcc?

#

oh lmao I should read before typing

#

looks like its down

glacial tartan
tranquil kelp
#

Im also getting the "multiplayer is not allowed" message

#

weird

glacial tartan
#

Are you on Xbox or PC?

tranquil kelp
#

PC

glacial tartan
#

I see people finding games (myself included) but see other people complaining. May be regional, idk

tranquil kelp
#

wack, oh well hopefully will be sorted soon

#

heard it might just be xbox live having in general having a hiccup

tulip tusk
next drum
#

on steam as well, no account enforcements

vocal ivy
#

Halo

shrewd finch
#

Also Halo Studios said that they are working on multiple projects simultaneously, so some of the projects will probably be appealing to older fans while others might appeal to newer fans

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Like if we get a Halo CE remake we'll probably also get Halo 7 eventually.

crystal iron
#

they also often don't meet the standards the players are asking for

#

ce anniversary is a great example of a remake people don't like

#

though right on the flipside there's halo 2 anniversary which was great for the new graphics and cutscenes, but with the caveat that it was used to drive sales of the master chief collection, which took years to be in a playable state, & even today it has problems in classic mode

#

if they're smart about it they will use this combat evolved anniversary anniversary as a testbed/base for a future halo, like prime remastered engine probably is being used for prime 4

tulip tusk
#

i dont think anniversary counts as a remake

crystal iron
#

yeah remaster

#

again though, "either way"

tulip tusk
#

i hope steven seagal is in the next game

hybrid nebula
#

quick question
for anyone that's been playing mcc for the past few weeks, did the panzerdoll zerotype panels already come out on the exchange?

#

that's literally the only thing I'm missing now

lusty wraith
leaden idol
shrewd finch
hybrid nebula
lucid heart
#

What channel do I use for LFG if I want people to grind spartan points with?

sullen kilnBOT
#

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

midnight tree
#

why do so many people not know how to play ctf

analog rose
#

Why are so many people opposed to using a mic?

tulip tusk
#

more chill for me

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i only use mic with some friends

#

irl friends

final scroll
tulip tusk
#

its safer for me and everyone else as well at least typing is good

analog rose
#

But in ranked gameplay, a mic is a lot faster than a ping

tulip tusk
#

i never play ranked id fall asleep

analog rose
#

I’m hard stuck in my rank because no one communicates and too many people charging for melee instead of helping me shoot

ruby lake
celest heron
#

I guess you could start calling out and maybe get lucky with someone using one

vivid marsh
#

Unfortunately most people I run into who do use a mic leave it open while also having children\music\tv\fans in the background

celest heron
#

I can't even hear people cause my volume is really low or I'm listening to a youtube vid.

analog rose
keen silo
spare finch
feral sapphire
#

in history class today we learned about the great schism

#

halo is real guys..

warped yew
#

🤨

#

What school are you going to lmao

signal ivy
#

one that teaches history

#

the great schism was a real thing

warped yew
#

Idk if your joking too lol

#

If there's a real event though. Ok but that's not what the comment was talking about

signal ivy
#

they said in class they learned about the great schism

#

that was a real event that took place in earths history

#

a quick google search will clear it up

warped yew
#

👍

crystal iron
warped yew
#

Whatever lol. I was going off on the joke. Welp it is what it is ig

fluid hinge
#

i was in a warthog, i ran straight into someboyd, full speed, nothing in the way, we were afk, too. I ran straight into them, they didnt die, they just like, went over my warthog, didn't jump or anything, just like, went over it. thehy didnt do the jumping animation, I don't even think u can jump over a warthog. like. what. 💀

#

is that normal? is that like, a new thing?

tulip tusk
#

they had plot armor srry

vague night
civic sundial
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I did King's Fall with a broken mic back in the day. Was pretty fun

lilac timber
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Anyone wanna help me out?

wooden briar
vast nova
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happy 23rd bday CE

magic night
signal ivy
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🐴 👨

edgy forum
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Happy 23rd Birthday Halo CE

vast nova
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i think i'll start with CE When i visit my buddy's house

kind aurora
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help i cant complete the megg achievement because i cant jump high enough to get on the crates

jade pebble
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cant help but feel like the regular AR has been made useless. it should be more effective when shot well than the avenger but it isnt. they nerfed the accuracy just before bringing in a gun that fills the same niche

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it was really effective before but I cant even get close to my old scores in the gun range

magic night
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I'm not a fan of the accuracy changes, but I'd rather still have an AR over an Avenger at anything beyond point blank. Avenger feels even less reliable than the AR currently does.

jade pebble
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idk the avenger is alright when everyone has it. really nice in delta arena

magic night
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I think that's because when everyone has it, everyone has to be right up in each others' faces

jade pebble
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feel like now the gain in having an AR could be the skillgap. shoot it more efficiently and take out people faster than the avenger

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because currently it quite honestly sucks

magic night
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I agree. I wish they didn't change the accuracy. It was more predictable before. Now it's just pretty much all random.

edgy forum
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I know right now everybody is demanding Halo Studios to bring mods to MCC console and I can’t imagine having to prioritize everything above that first hand. Wish them the best and wish everybody’s patience to be fulfilled. 🙏

void estuary
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Adding mods to consoles is much harder than adding mods to pc

crystal iron
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Halo infinite was meant to be a 10 year project - is this scrapped now or is there a new halo coming out?

civic sundial
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Multiple projects are in development at Halo Studios within Unreal Engine 5

void estuary
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We won't know about the projects for probably a few years so we just need to be patient

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But I can predict a few halo games that might be in development

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  1. Halo 7
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  1. Some Halo Spinoff
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  1. A possible halo wars 3
crystal iron
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Cheers, I haven't been paying attention to Halo since 3 but recently got into Infinites campaign and loving it

upbeat cape
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Halo

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I'm sitting in queue for Halo MCC 4v4 social, and I can't seem to get in a game. I have everything checked now. Can anyone tell me what is going on?

short flower
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Just tryna get through the most insufferable activity ever created (Spartan Ops)

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29 insufferable missions to go…

short flower
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The Cauldron Base… I have to get through it on Legendary solo… this is the worst level of all time. Both generators gone: START MISSION OVER!

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There are way too many enemies to even make it beatable!

sturdy kernel
onyx latch
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I dunno, I did that and won.

civic sundial
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Yeah, that one ain't too bad

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Stick close to the objective, wipe out Covies and it's good

rugged quartz
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all of spartan ops 50 missions

short flower
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Wait i just got “what power outage?”

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oh that’s a huge relief

sturdy kernel
civic sundial
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I can confirm you can do it on legendary pretty easily. Of the generator defence levels, it's definitely not that bad

devout valve
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It's easy on legendary.

jade pebble
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wouldnt say its easy

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just the sheer amount of enemies is a pretty big task

river minnow
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it's pretty easy tbh

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you just stick to the machine gun and you can keep at least one generator on

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I only lost the last one right at the end

edgy forum
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I liked Halo 4’s OST

woeful wigeon
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Permanent case of "Multiplayer is unavailable. Please try again later." EDIT: uninstall and reinstall required to fix after update

crystal iron
plain bear
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Im stuck at level 7 in halo wars, any tips?

magic night
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In the campaign?

tulip tusk
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what maps are in the Linear Firefight list?

jade pebble
coarse heath
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my buddy (friend a) and i are having some issues trying to join on the MCC, we are both on xbox, my other friend (friend b) can join me but also cant join friend a. any ideas? just get an error saying failed to join

vague night
strong plover
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bring back no sprinting plzzzz

frosty condor
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Delta slayer has no sprint

jade pebble
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Never understood the mindset of rolling back features. I know halo fans generally lag behind but its damn funny. You see it everywhere. The gameplay and skillgap thats born out of sprint based movement in infinite is crazy good

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If you dont wanna sprint just dont sprint

civic sundial
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Some people hate it because COD has it, which is also a dumb reason to hate it

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Like, one person tried to tell me once that Halo 2 cut sprint because "Bungie didn't want to chase trends like COD does" despite the fact COD didn't have sprint until the original Modern Warfare

void estuary
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Even though they cut sprint I still wish there was a mod that would make it possible to be used in mcc

warped yew
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And I just see sprint as a mechanic that doesn't change much besides the go fast method. It's speed ain't even that fast in Halo and most of its movement tech with slide is very situational and I barely see it getting used by peeps in MP

civic sundial
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I think the person Arti was replying to was talking about the next game, not the Delta Arena playlist

warped yew
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Oops my bad

civic sundial
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It happens

warped yew
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Alr

analog salmon
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sprint only makes sense in halo cus of slide

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and i can totally get not liking slide

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like I enjoy Reach but i dont think sprint does anything for that game really

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idk it just doesnt do anything for the kind of shooter Halo is

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well was. Infinite does sprint+slide as a movement mechanic in a really enjoyable way

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but i mean i completely understand the love for the methodical pre-reach Halo movement

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i dont think its got anything really to do with hating COD so much as just people loving the kind of game halo was back then

warped yew
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Yeah without the slide, sprint is just pretty useless for Halo

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Atleast with Halo Infinite, there's actual tech

hazy lily
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What is the best weapon in halo that is not a power item?

civic sundial
civic sundial
warped yew
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I'm just bashing halo 4

civic sundial
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Fair

warped yew
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Cuz like it doesn't have the slide

civic sundial
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I think if 4 had slide as well, it'd be near perfect for the gameplay

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Like, remove the jetpack. Rework Promethean Vision to be specifically a counter to active camo, have loadouts exclusive to Spartan Ops and maybe BTB, throw in slide and I think it would've been fantastic

celest heron
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slide has always been gimmicky and it's been taken advantage of in both games in ways that it wasn't intended with map traversal. they literally had to nerf one of the tricks that it could do in h5. I hope it doesn't come back in the next game.

analog salmon
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im pretty sure it is intended in Infinite

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i suspect it was unintentional by design but through testing there's no way they didn't discover it and understand the gameplay implications of leaving it in

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so by release it was an intended mechanic in the way its used

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I like both movements. It's the Reach/4 movement that's weak to me

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i doubt they'll go back to no sprint+slide because 2AMP was that and really didn't get much love

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probably cus the whole game is was part of was broken at launch but even after the fixes, very few of us were asking for an expansion of Halo 2AMP, and that was the opportunity for it

analog salmon
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minus clamber ig

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its weird how now 4 MP feels like a cheap nockoff of Infinite

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everything wrong with it was unoriginal stuff they took from other games so it doesnt have an identity in the way 5 and Reach do for me

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ig other then temporary use wall hacks which was probably the worst thing ever added to Halo

civic sundial
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Like, genuinely glad that was only in one game

final scroll
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im not saying flinch was good, but in my experience it really only mattered if you were really far away from your enemy

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i never felt like i was missing shots due to flinch unless i was scoping in with a dmr trying to crossmap people

civic sundial
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Well that's the thing, flinch was mainly a problem when you were scoped in

final scroll
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which the other games mirror with descope, i dont see a problem?

civic sundial
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Descoping just feels better

final scroll
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i disagree, but this is all just subjective anyway

civic sundial
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Which is a weird thing to say because it throws you out of being scoped in but not sure how else to put it

analog salmon
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replacing descope with flinch is probably the second worst change to a halo game after temp wall hacks

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geuinely probably the biggest "other games do this so we should too"

final scroll
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nah

analog salmon
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it just doesn't feel like halo to me. deviating from the methodical movement was one thing, but the gunplay is just something i dont think you can change that much

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its why "Legendary Slayer" doesnt even really help Halo 4 much for me

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and it ruins the campaign too even

final scroll
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i dont think the gunplay is that different though, the weapons became a touch less unique and that is sad but i dont see that as a huge departure from the classic gameplay

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its just that instead of having a BR and 20 other guns that dont matter because the BR beats them all, now theres 4 BRs

analog salmon
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reminds me of how Infinite's shock nades affecting your movement just felt so wrong to me. something about controlling your inputs just doesnt work in halo for me

final scroll
analog salmon
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getting shot descopes you in Halo, that's all it should do. Your movement and inputs being unhindered is kinda core to the gameplay for me

final scroll
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but that "core halo experience" has been messed with in every halo game starting with CE

analog salmon
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like its obviously unrealistic but that's kinda what halo has always been

final scroll
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plasma weapons stunned players in CE, if you get full auto'd by a plasma rifle it will fully stop you from moving or adjusting your aim

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the only reason people dont remember that is because the pistol was so broken it didnt matter

analog salmon
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yeah and honestly that's borked to me, glad they removed it

final scroll
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my point is, "your movements and inputs being unhindered is core to Halo's gameplay" is a statement that is flat out wrong. you can enjoy that personally, subjectively. but from any objective standpoint that has NEVER been halo's identity

analog salmon
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i dont wanna go back to 2/3 but i think there's core Halo DNA that was estabished by those games. nobody wants to radically change the TTK for example

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i mean yeah nothing about your preference for a video game is objective lol

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but i mean there's people who would prefer a radically different TTK. i can still say that's not halo

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there's aspects of this franchise that are what makes Halo my fps shooter of choice. nothing even comes close to the hours ive put into halo games

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going away from descope being the only way your hinder by gun fire is just core to the experience to me

final scroll
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and for me, it helped

analog salmon
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but im open to the radically changed movement with sprint+slide

final scroll
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i hate not being able to fight back against someone trying to crossmap me just because they happened to get the first shot

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it makes camping way easier in the classic games

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all you have to do is hardscope on a sightline and you always get the first shot, your enemies cant effectively fight against you

analog salmon
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i feel like its the opposite, the fact you're merely descoped gives you a chance to shoot back, descope them, throw off their aim, and pull a reverse. Or at the very least live a bit longer. Flinch to me just encourages immediately running away when your shto

final scroll
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with flinch, a good player can get back on target and react to their enemy

analog salmon
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i dont think flinch in any way helped you fight back

final scroll
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the removal of descope did, by giving you an easier target and increasing red reticle range

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flinch was the balancing factor to prevent scopes from dominating in a game without descope

analog salmon
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descope is what lets you fight back and stop someone beaming you. the fall of a lot of players is not understanding that when you shoot back in halo you make it a lot hard for them to kill you. played against a pro the other day and my entire team were just getting sniped over and over again cause they didn't know where the guy was to get some shots at him before he sniped them

final scroll
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i just dont think it does

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descope feels awful

analog salmon
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descope is pretty much why precision starts are a must in comp. you have a chance to shoot back off your spawn and descope the enemy

final scroll
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precision starts are a must in comp because the precision weapons are so powerful that if you dont start with one you'll get farmed by the team that gets them first

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which is what everyone has been complaining about with delta arena in infinite

analog salmon
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yeah because you can descope them lol.

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you descope someone with a BR and even if they shoot you first you have a chance

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idk how flinch in any way improves that

final scroll
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you keep saying that flinch is an improvement. it isnt

analog salmon
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wut

final scroll
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its a sidegrade. descope is bad. flinch is bad. when descope was removed, flinch was introduced to reign those guns in

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im not saying that flinch is a good thing, im saying that its not "the second worst thing ever introduced to halo" because its effectively the same as descope

analog salmon
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i dont think you quite realise how absolutely terrible comp halo would be without descope

final scroll
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yeah, because the precision weapons already dominate the game entirely

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the BR is the only gun that matters, removing its one and only limiting factor would be awful

analog salmon
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you can play Halo 4 with classic settings only with flinch and sprint (legendary slayer) and to me its still 70% as awful as vanilla Halo 4. Like that's why i say flinch is so bad, because it fundementally ruins the Halo experience for me

final scroll
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which is also why precision starts are a must. whichever team gets the BRs first wins, the only way to balance comp is to make sure everyone has access to a BR

tulip tusk
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I rarely play multiplayer but i remember shooting them without being scoped in, they just tossed out, they start missing, and then you can either get out of way as they miss or keep trying. It's a nice mechanic

analog salmon
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so you dont like descope and you recognise BR starts means you need descope, so you dont like precision weapons existing in Halo at all? Im confused

final scroll
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i like precision weapons existing, i just wish they were balanced with the rest of the sandbox

analog salmon
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precision starts are also about counting the array of stronger precision weapons (sniper, shock, stalker) in infinite

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descope balances the BR with the sniper

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idk how comp halo can work without precision starts + descope

final scroll
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because they have always dominated. the pistol in CE trumps everything, the BR in 2 is the only gun that matters, 3 was the closest we got to a more balanced experience and even there the BR was necessary on spawn

analog salmon
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i just dont see a way honestly

final scroll
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and you dont think that indicates that something is wrong with their design? that you literally cant find a single way to balance them??

analog salmon
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i just dont mind descope. i think its balanced and works well

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it definitely seems a bit dated and i can understand it putting new players off the game, but to me thats halo

final scroll
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i dont think 4 is "the best halo" but i did feel it was generally more balanced than bungies games, at least in sandbox design

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it has a bunch of problems, obviously. every halo game does. but i never felt like using a gun was a death sentence when put against any others

analog salmon
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i just find it has extremely passive gameplay because of the mechanics being so imbalanced

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it doesnt even play like a halo game in arena for me

final scroll
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and i find it more active because i can fight back

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in halo 2, if im not sitting back with a BR crossmapping other players, then theyll just crossmap me

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it feels way more passive in my opinion, its very reactive

analog salmon
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i suppose but i'd rather that over halo 4's enabling of very passive gameplay if you feel the enemy has the edge in a match

final scroll
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i understand that halo 4 "isnt halo" to you, but ill take a fun game that strays from halo's established gameplay over a "perfect halo" that isnt fun to play

analog salmon
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there's just too many tools to let you play passive and bait the enemy if you know they're fundentally better then you

final scroll
tulip tusk
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Halo 4 is so ugly I can't play it for a long time

final scroll
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the perk that auto-ejects players from vehicles when destroyed is annoying

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and the perk that removes flinch (the only balancing factor for scoped weapons) is just flat out bad game design

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flinch was introduced to fill the gap left by removing descope, removing that is awful

analog salmon
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fun to me is in the positioning required to win those gunfights you say you dont like. you gotta be shooting as a team etc

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getting punished for over extending etc

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halo 4 has gotta be the only game you can run the timer out by camping and using its tool to prevent the enemy pushing you

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which is not a good sandbox game. more aint better ig

final scroll
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all of bungies halo games were full of campy design, i like 4 because it allows players to more effectively move around the map. and that's what halo is to me, you're supposed to be able to move around

analog salmon
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i think its actually the opposite, the sandbox actually enables you not to move

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that's my experience of "close" halo 4 matches. one team doesnt move

final scroll
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thats my experience in every match of CE, 2, 3, and Reach

analog salmon
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you literally cant though, you need to control the map to control power weapons

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so you are losing if you're camping, it cant win you a match

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4's unequal starts change that

final scroll
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we're gonna have to agree to disagree, because nothing you are saying makes any sense to me

analog salmon
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idk how you can camp or play passive in a sandbox game that's about picking up power items from the map

final scroll
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idk, just watch HCS and youll figure it out

analog salmon
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I have and its jiggle peaking and other flaws brought in since Infinite that are causing that, not 2/3

civic sundial
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Camping only works effectively when you have power weapons (Or a boltshot in Halo 4), you need to grab the power weapon first or play a mode like Infection where you start with a power weapon

analog salmon
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go watch Halo 3 comp and tell me its campy

final scroll
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i stopped watching halo 3 comp because the campiness was frustrating to watch

civic sundial
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And even then, it's only really practical to camp with the shotgun if you're on a map that makes camping with it easy

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Or a sniper if you have a great sightline. But once you take a shot or two, you need to move because everyone knows you're there

analog salmon
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i feel like you're conflating positioning with camping. i dont think halo 3 comp matches ever felt slow

devout cedar
#

Quick question: [Infinite]

In Halo Infinite it is so difficult to aim. It feels like the camera movement takes 1.5 seconds to follow my input.

Is it because im playing with low FPS? (Xbox one)

civic sundial
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Have you touched sensitivity at all?

analog salmon
devout cedar
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Yes, i put that one sensitivity i forgot the name of to 0

devout cedar
civic sundial
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0 is super slow for sensitivity

devout cedar
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Not THAT sensitivity.

That one everyone hates and disables it.

I just forgot what the name of it was

plain sinew
#

Anyone still play Halo 5 forge?

civic sundial
warped yew
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You must be super cracked or super bad

limpid bough
#

hi! today i finished Reach on Heroic on steam through MCC ofc however the achievement for it didn't pop, i even restarted the game and nuthin, what could it be? not sure if this is the right place it's more of a technical issue than anything i suppose

civic sundial
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Sometimes it's delayed in giving it you

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Try redoing a single level on heroic and see if it pops from doing it

analog salmon
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Idk why never use to take so long. You will have to boot the game for steam to register it

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But Xbox will just randomly register it at some point

low blaze
#

I'm still mad that the flyable pelican bug was removed from infinite

low blaze
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The tank gun was beloved by fans so it was immediately added back, but none of the other things they patched that exclusively effected speedruns were reverted

civic sundial
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The Pelican had way more issues than the Scorpion Cannon bug. Mainly due to how the Pelican was never intended for use by the player, whereas the Scorpion Cannon was repurposed from the Scorpion Tank's main fire mode

tulip tusk
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If u want to fly pelican play the Sandtrap Firefight map by Okom

quiet garnet
#

What kind of gameplay changes should the next halo multiplayer have?

zealous cape
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Still feel cheated by the fact they’re kits

quiet garnet
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That could be cool

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I can't really think of much for gameplay changes. Just loot. Infinite 2 launching with a loot shower would go a long way I think

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Just not an easy thing to pitch to execs and investors

civic sundial
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Loot shower?

quiet garnet
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Yeah I think retention early on will be stronger if there's lots of armor and coatings to earn for free

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I think that's why I quit so early on. Came back this month

tulip tusk
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i hope forge is there as well

inland minnow
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@trim hamlet • please dont talk about that project here. if you have any questions please dm @upbeat plover

trim hamlet
fossil pine
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Do you guys think we’ll see Halo 5 on PC next year for its 10th anniversary?

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I personally REALLY hope so because it’s one of my favourite games of all time. I just wanna play it with my friends man 😭

coarse dagger
trim hamlet
fossil pine
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Haha that’s a very Halo word innit

coarse dagger
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No, it's respecting terms of service

trim hamlet
vague night
weary trout
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i hope Halo moves away from open world if it remains the same like infinite. It was nice, but it doesnt feel like halo, it'd be a way better open world halo game with planets and stuff, or rings, like destiny or sum. 😔

civic sundial
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Open world game where we play as a scavenger could be interesting

weary trout
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i was expecting halo infinite to end chiefs story honestly. Because of all the hints and nudges on that, only concern is who would be the new MC?

weary trout
civic sundial
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Someone not tied to any specific faction specifically

civic sundial
weary trout
civic sundial
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Rumours... Not exactly a good source

signal ivy
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lol

weary trout
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it was some time ago so it would be hard to pinpoint it

low blaze
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Because everyone interpreted 343s "this game will last for 10 years" as "this will be the last game for at least a decade"

weary trout
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but it'd be refreshing if chief would have like a ending. Bros getting old, hes like 45 years old now.

clear cedar
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IDK why, but whenever I play MCC and do Halo 3 playlist, it always feels like my BR just shooting BBs while an enemy (even if its a 1v1 and I get the flank/ starting shots) just melts me somehow

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Am I just aiming poorly somehow?

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I know the proper way is 3 bursts to the chest and then one to the head since the 4th burst would end up breaking the shield and the final bullet from the burst if a headshot would lead to a kill

strange burrow
#

Does Halo Infinite have more Firefight modes than king of the hill at this time? Do they plan to add any more?

Curious about this but felt weird about creating a thread for this in #1039633978841374720

keen birch
civic sundial
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There's custom Firefight modes made and used in custom games

clear cedar
keen birch
#

Oh. I’ve never done that

celest heron
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try leading your shots a little bit.

coarse heath
#

my buddy (friend a) and i are having some issues trying to join on the MCC, we are both on xbox, my other friend (friend b) can join me but also cant join friend a. any ideas? just get an error saying failed to join

analog rose
#

I’ve lost now four in a row because of teammates not moving, but then coming back just in time to stop from being kicked but can’t get a comeback together. 🙃

quiet garnet
#

Damn that sounds infuriating

analog rose
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It is. I’m hard stuck at platinum because this is what I get.

zealous cape
quiet garnet
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Solo ranked is Satan's gift to us fleshy weak things on earth

zealous cape
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seems like a lot of teammates I get like to split up and REFUSE to stick together for whatever reason so I always end up just trying to follow one of them around

quiet garnet
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Goated strat

shrewd finch
analog rose
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Dropped back down into gold because can’t get one team that actually knows what they’re doing. And they teamed me with a guy I reported for standing still in the last game… and guess what he did for me again?

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If I report someone, why am I then teaming with them again? What in all of that is holy matchmaking believes I wanna team with them again?

shrewd finch
fossil pine
#

"Halsey I could REALLY use some help"
"hIs fILe rEAdS mISsiNG iN aCTiOn"

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🤣

analog rose
#

Okay, so I’ll repeat without the cuss words…

The positive note to me being stuck between gold and platinum is it’s letting me get my shot back on. Haven’t played since S2, and so a big difference for me to get used to this bandit gun over the BR.

grand wind
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Ngl the recoil on the regular bandit is a bit finicky but these things take time and practice to get good at, good luck on your journey

obsidian jay
#

jacobissss is the next mintblitz

tulip tusk
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hey no need for insults

safe coral
#

Why does basically nothing identify halo wars 2 as a game?

#

at least for me, nothing is recognizing it as a game tho I’m playing it

analog salmon
#

possibly cause its a MS Store exclusive game i guess?

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you should still be able to register it with discord if you run it and then go to the register game option in settings

edgy forum
#

Servers acting up?

frank abyss
edgy forum
#

I ate them

edgy latch
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what the heck give them back

coarse dagger
#

If you're having issues with missing playlists, please try restarting your game or console first. If they still don't show up, please file a support ticket

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport