#halo-discussion

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edgy forum
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I know, I’m just like what do I do lol

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I tried contacting the MS Rewards support and haven’t heard from them since 4 AM this morning when I sent it

tulip tusk
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Money tightness is stressful!

edgy forum
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Yeah, and I’ve been waiting for this Mark VI GEN1 armor for a long, long time

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So I can imagine the frustration when it comes out but I can’t afford it just drives me insane

signal ivy
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you could always just pick it up when you have the funds

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it's not going to completely disappear

radiant sundial
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probably

tulip tusk
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Ye why do u feel rushed to buy it

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I get that way with stocks sometimes 🙂

edgy forum
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Because I don’t want to miss out on the hype or trend. Gives me major PTSD/anxiety for no reason. And I wanna be there day one. Just sucks being unemployed for the last two years and not having a means of income in this industry. So that’s all entirely on my fault and nobody else.

onyx latch
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I ate it

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It's gone forever

civic sundial
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Can confirm, I saw Trench eating it personally

onyx latch
civic sundial
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I was half expecting you to spit it out once you reached the torso

signal ivy
edgy forum
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I want the armor because I’ve been wanting to get it

magic night
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Be fashionably late to the party

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When everyone's jumping on it day one, you won't stand out, but when people start moving away from the armor for whatever reason and you're wearing it, then you'll stand out.

edgy forum
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I feel like everybody’s gonna bee wearing this for a long time because it’s so iconic if they can get the chance

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I already own the Mark V CE and earned my Hero Rank armor, it’d be nice to switch out every few matches

onyx latch
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Only classic armor kit I'd ever really want is GEN2 Hunter/Locke.

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Or GEN2 Technician/Tanaka.

distant cairn
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a lot of the infinite upgraded unsc weapons are worse than the original

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grinded the FOB just for a worse battle rifle and sniper lol

devout valve
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actually the campaign ones haven't got the buffs, nvm

vivid marsh
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I will be wearing ODST armor until the day I die

edgy forum
short flower
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Possibly a jackal sniper that stops my firefight match… UGGHHHH

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of course halo 2 PTSD strikes me

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literally was getting as far away as possible and as fast as I could…

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and course some enemies just have unfair aim

civic sundial
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That's Jackal Snipers for ya

edgy forum
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Can you buy Halo Infinite credits via Steam purchase and the Xbox account linked with Steam transfers?

civic sundial
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@jade pebble Just remembered another weapon variant that's on Pelican Down that you can find. Near the furthest east AA gun, you can find a Volatile Skewer amongst a bunch of corpses on a hillside

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jade pebble
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Ooh huh

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Dont think Ive seen it

civic sundial
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It always spawns there thankfully

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So useful against the Spartan Hunters

spare finch
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I was in aimbotz v2 today and got 200+ kills with 96 snipes

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and it was on spartan difficulty 💀

low blaze
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Chat is dustin echos still alive?

leaden idol
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Halo Studios should not allowe Firefight Legendary for people with bronze career rank, they ruin the game for others and i doubt they have fun, unless that is the goal

coarse dagger
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Career rank has no relation to skill level

edgy forum
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Yeah go easy on the noobs

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We all start somewhere in Halo

cinder widget
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Anyone playing halo 5? Looking for a party to play SWAT

leaden idol
sullen kilnBOT
# cinder widget Anyone playing halo 5? Looking for a party to play SWAT

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leaden idol
coarse dagger
leaden idol
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just show me 10 good bronze player that can have a kd of over 150 in firfefight legendary

leaden idol
coarse dagger
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Progressing through career rank has absolutely no relation to how good you are at playing the game. You could be half way to Hero and not be good, you just play a lot and earn XP as you go

coarse dagger
coarse dagger
leaden idol
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that's the theorie, but in reality, they don't know the sandbox, the maps, the hitboxes and all that stuff

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you can not convice me unless you prove me wrong

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there are simply no good bronze players in firefight legendary and if you had played that mode you would know

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s-murfs don't play this mode

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what i would haver agree with you is that there are bad players at every career rank

civic sundial
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There quite literally is, because career rank is not an indicator of skill

tulip tusk
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there is prob some %. who plays a game 5 million times and doesnt retain some general skill

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memory skill etc

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unless person cant form memory

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or missing a hand

leaden idol
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bla bla bla bla bla

onyx latch
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Smurfs? I love those little guys

leaden idol
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said the guy who i never saw in any firefight game

latent acorn
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Same here. Career rank has nothing to do with skill.

onyx latch
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Is someone confusing career rank with ranked tier again?

leaden idol
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it's all theory, would you be part of the active player base outside of ranked, you would know different

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nope

tulip tusk
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What about my thoughts does no one agree

onyx latch
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Ah, so they just lack critical thinking skills and/or never encountered a grifball booster in Reach.

leaden idol
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but some people think experiance is not needed in halo

onyx latch
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Whoever that person is, I feel sorry for them

leaden idol
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griffball is not firefight

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and reach is not infinite

onyx latch
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So anyways, I'm trash at Halo Infinite, but I'm Diamond Major Grade I and would be Onyx Captain Grade 3 if my experience had transferred over

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Winning on the drip game tho

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leaden idol
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but if you look at the statistics, the people ho played reach are 99% out of the bronze rank at this time, stopped playing or never started

tulip tusk
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Geez no one ever agree with me am i that bizarre

leaden idol
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trenchbird, how many games did it take you to get out of bronze?

onyx latch
onyx latch
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Because career rank is just a progression system that doesn't knock you back down unlike ranked rank.

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A ranked rank does that only when a new season or content update happens.

leaden idol
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reminder, it takes 113'000 games to reach silver thats's around 20 games for a good player

onyx latch
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Boy, I don't know where you're getting that 113k number from, but that's wild.

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And people just do it in 20 games?

leaden idol
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what is the problem of blocking a mode for the first 20 games

onyx latch
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Went for sarcasm, got Joe Rogan.

leaden idol
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you don't seem to know the game very well, besides thge mode you play

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but your answer does not surpise me

onyx latch
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Yeah, I just trade even 3-3 with Mint Blitz, but I'm not that good.

leaden idol
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this is not about skillz, this is about background knowledge

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if you don't even know how the career progression system works....

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why are you even taking part in this conversation

onyx latch
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Oh, background knowledge? Yeah. Did you know Spartan IVs have carbon nanotubes implanted into their bones and an instestine-fitted bioreactor that takes care of extra waste material?

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And even get extra muscle fibers implanted across their body, it's pretty cool.

leaden idol
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i'm playing a game, your reading a book, your a troll

onyx latch
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You're right, I should go play Firefight.

leaden idol
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maybe you should, just to find out that this mode even exists

onyx latch
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This is Normal, right?

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I don't know what buttons to press.

uneven bison
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That’s easy mode

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Run at the enemies

leaden idol
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and that that there is a problem with bronze players, because not even mint blitz could score a 5:0 with 2 players that die all the time and have less than 35 kills combined

onyx latch
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:>

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I just realized I need to redo my Mint Blitz kill vids

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Cause there's too much swearing, so I need to mute it

leaden idol
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except on one map (courtyard), in gruntapocalype fiesta

civic sundial
leaden idol
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that is the only map that a single player could win in firefight legendary

onyx latch
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Uh huuuuh.

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Oh, wow. I just realized why i never play Firefight Legendary.

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Because the payouts are terrible. 4k score, 4k career points, and I was the topscorer.

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And in direct defiance of 360, I'm the lowest ranked of the four, yet did the best. That ooooone little death was because I got stuck.

leaden idol
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i am only referring to bronze level players. i am currently playing with a gold that is doing extremely well

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so you have proven ZERO

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and my point is still valid until you can do A 5:0 with two bronze on the team

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besides, forrest is a rather easy map compared to others

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and you got the least kills of your team

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"did the best"

sturdy kernel
onyx latch
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Anyone who runs around the map looking for kills is doing it wrong.

onyx latch
leaden idol
onyx latch
leaden idol
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you will have bad players at every level. that probvlem is the lack of decent players in legendary firefight with bronze status

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go play some more games to prove me wrong!

onyx latch
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Legendary Firefight's literally the worst Firefight mode for XP gain.

leaden idol
onyx latch
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...

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So your conclusion is that people who are good at the game play it, despite the fact it's people who've clearly ranked up high enough that they aren't worried about XP gain.

leaden idol
onyx latch
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... Bronze players just don't have a lot of playtime post-career rank update, dude.

leaden idol
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not silver, not gold, not plat, not diamond, not onyx and not hero

onyx latch
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Conclusion's as worthless as Noble 4.

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And he's pretty worthless.

leaden idol
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i just think, firefdight legendary is not a mode that is targeting bronze players

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you need some games to play ranked as well

onyx latch
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It's literally only targeting people who want to play legendary.

leaden idol
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you can not start with 0 experiance

onyx latch
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You can literally play both the first time you boot the game.

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There isn't a skill gate or time gate to either.

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I mean I don't know what sort of sick person would boot up Halo Infinite for the first time ever in their entire life and go "Hmn, Firefight Legendary and Ranked modes sound fun"

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Whoever that person is... Good for them I guess.

leaden idol
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you need 50 social games to play ranked. If i remember correct, it used to be only 20.

leaden idol
civic sundial
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Why are you naming specific people?

warped yew
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The reason is literally in Trench Bird's comment that the guy replies to

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Unless that was rhetorical, my bad :<

tulip tusk
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Maybe they think legendary ff will give them legendary rewards like destiny

celest heron
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person probly types in game chat berating players that don't do well, lol. anyway, it's ff; it's not that serious.

tulip tusk
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lol yeah they prob dont even read the raging chat just looking at grunts and cool stuff

vague night
onyx latch
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"the first time"

vague night
celest heron
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I'll always try something once in a new game. could be similar to them

crimson berry
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Think next seasons my last. The match making on here just gives me teams that just don't bother trying anymore. :/

short flower
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Much better firefight match… and a rare infinite ammo one! Probably was my second ever infinite ammo one

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Also got a…

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My final score was 5440!

void estuary
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Nice Job!!!!!!!!

half crow
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y isnt big team social anymore no one talks on the mic it is sad

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made my best friends there

mild estuary
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is the new opperation pass out yet

civic sundial
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Tuesday

mild estuary
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cool

civic sundial
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Just prepare for the large amount of Mark VI players when the update drops

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I will be one of them

tulip tusk
edgy forum
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Because everyone either uses Discord or Xbox Live party chats

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Welcome to the Parasocial society

spare finch
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I will also likely be one of them

civic sundial
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One of us

edgy forum
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I am also going to buy the Mark VI armor kit, best decision I’ve made in my life

tulip tusk
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😐

civic sundial
zinc flax
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So did Thel really think it was necessary to send a whole strike force to take down Noble Six?

civic sundial
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Pretty sure Thel was chasing the Autumn at that point. He wouldn't have been sending those ground forces after Six in Lone Wolf

onyx latch
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Six was just another armored bug and the last survivor of a 14 strong Spartan fighting position, he was just another bug to be crushed.

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I swear, y'all glaze that guy like no tomorrow.

zinc flax
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It was just a question too 😭

onyx latch
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More than one can be true

edgy forum
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“I wasn’t on Reach.”

zinc flax
civic sundial
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Shadow of Intent wasn't part of the Fleet of Particular Justice

onyx latch
regal fog
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Why is MCC Reach full of toxic kids with brain damage

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And are the other MCC games full of them

tulip tusk
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idk i only play custom game browser

warped yew
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Is that in CGB?

crystal iron
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Well Insee 3rd person is coming to Halo Infinite, I kinda always wanted to try that in firefight mode

warped yew
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If we get a 3rd person mode, only fair we get a 1st person mode for vehicles and turrets

onyx latch
glass goblet
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Infinite can go from being super fun to super irritating so fast.

crystal iron
glass goblet
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That feels good sure but team balancing seems to just bend me over every chance it gets

swift iris
glass goblet
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Anyone know how destiny’s doing these days. I bought the light and dark saga bundle, I’m debating if it’s even worth getting back into

swift iris
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Both are still lively. Though to truly enjoy it you'd be better off playing with a group of friends.

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Though here's not the case for information about it.

ruby lake
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idk what will bring me back to playing infinite

warped yew
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The shop bundles for starters :>

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Cmon the halo 2 Master Chief armor is coming to Halo Infinite!

tulip tusk
ruby lake
ruby lake
tulip tusk
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maybe u can enjoy custom campaigns as well there r some fun ones

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have u tried joining a large lobby playing the "raid" maps they r fun large lobby missions

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different vibe of halo than the usual know what i mean

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can only play mm so long before bashing head vs wall

half crow
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hi

spare island
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hello

half crow
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When is next hcs

frosty condor
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Roadmap will release in early 2025, stay tuned!

half crow
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thank you

vestal jackal
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Hi everyone, how can I unlock the trophy "Devastating" on H3 MCC ? I should launch with the legendary selection ?

coarse dagger
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Yes, you need to complete all the campaign missions on legendary difficulty

limber trout
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why do my messages keep getting deleted? are we 12?

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tried to play halo infinite for the first time since '21. thought i'd giveit another chance. but it wont let me, since i need to sign in to microsoft (for some weird reason, im logged into steam, use that?!)

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cant even post a vid of the issue

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PXL_20241104_111027658.mp4

sullen kilnBOT
sullen kilnBOT
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For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @upbeat plover.

edgy forum
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Some people are just unhinged these days, it’s sad

tulip tusk
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That's been the funniest "problem" I've seen in a while I am grateful

edgy forum
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I’m mostly chill 100% of the time, I only swear if I’m quoting a meme or a line

tulip tusk
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Oh ur fine I mean that someone saw a login screen and was flabbergasted and smeckledorfed with what to do next, even angry, that's awesome and entertaining level of disconnect

low blaze
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How much recoil do the smgs have if a spartan struggles to aim with them

tulip tusk
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they just pretend is has recoil for fun in multiplayer

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like we used to pretend to shoot lasers from sticks

civic sundial
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You might pretend, I actually do

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The larger the stick the better, that's why wizards and mages use staffs

tulip tusk
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dannggit i havent found the right stick...its out there somewhere...

golden stirrup
vestal jackal
civic sundial
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You don't need to do the missions in a specific order

vestal jackal
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That nice !

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I thought that was the whole campagn run 💀

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I just did the Ark in 38min for my first run ever

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Awful level in Legendary

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And now I need to finish Covenant 💀

civic sundial
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I recommend looking into any skips that you feel confident about doing

vestal jackal
vestal jackal
civic sundial
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Speedrunners likely have a tips and tricks video explaining it

edgy forum
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It’s only the question of flipping a warthog/elephant that gets me to question sometimes

vestal jackal
radiant sundial
short flower
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MTN DEW game fuel returning again? I LOVED that flavor!

radiant sundial
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Again?

short flower
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Looks like it!

vast nova
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i cant wait till the 9th

royal stirrup
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how do you get the hammerhead squadron coating in infinite? it’s always said it’s unavailable

short flower
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Looks like it was a Twitch drop?

royal stirrup
short flower
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true

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I for sure don’t have it so I hope so

thorny zenith
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lets be honest, the best environment in any halo is the ark.

short flower
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hardest mission in halo 3.

onyx latch
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Last leg of Halo.

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That snooze-fest is so hard to stay awake through.

edgy forum
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?????

short flower
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Big day tomorrow!!!

edgy forum
celest heron
limber gale
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Is anyone else having issues switching Seasons/Operations rn?

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Everytime I try I get an "Equip Failed" message in the top right corner

sullen kilnBOT
void estuary
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Is everyone playing the update tomorrow?

celest heron
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yeah

short heart
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i dont get the rp system. i thought it was changed to be 7 loss and 7 win

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why do i gain as low as 7 and lose up to 11

ruby lake
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dang
this "new weapon" is just a glorified AR

sad face

short heart
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if its like the pre nerf ar i think thats cool

short heart
tulip tusk
crystal iron
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So is thr 3rd person POV only in custom games pr will i be able to play firefight in 3rd person

short flower
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There will be a playlist releasing.

crystal iron
civic sundial
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Firefight

short flower
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Firefight playlist in multiplayer.

crystal iron
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Nice

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I will finally be able to see my Spartans customization in Al it's Basic Color greatness

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I think my games going to need alotmof.updates though haven't played since a week after firefight launched

ruby lake
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damn
maybe i am really burnt out by this game

left snow
short heart
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ugh why cant it be simple

left snow
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It is pretty simple.

Your MMR is your current skill. It goes up and down with your "form". But it can fluctuate by more than you think - even over a session.

The CSR chases your MMR in small jumps (max 15 points) to "smooth" out the journey.

Like a "line of best fit".

If you win your CSR goes up. A lot if MMR > CSR (chance to catch up). But only a little if MMR < CSR (resists moving away).

And the opposite if you lose.

zealous panther
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oh i wish there is halo 2 skin for an smg...

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i just don't get why they decided to do another ar

civic sundial
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Likely due to the people they'd need to do a more classic looking SMG's animations being on a different project

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Plus this being a weapon from lore that's been demanded for years likely led to them going with the MA5K

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Like, it's not that they chose to add in the MA5K to annoy people. It's just that with the team they have on Infinite, it's easier for them to do this than other weapons. Which I can live with

final scroll
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yeah, its a fine addition

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i have my own little petty issues i could complain about, but nothing really worth getting into? people have been asking for new guns and now we have one, would they have preferred yet another mid range precision rifle?

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plus im a sucker for CE's guns and this is a lot like the CE assault rifle, so im lookin forward to it

civic sundial
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Aye, and as someone who has been desperately wanting a full on SMG added, I can live with the MA5K filling that role

vivid marsh
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My only real disappointment is that they arent likely to update the campaign. Which now that Ive finished on legendary I probably wont play again anyway, but I wish the weapons had been kept in lockstep with the multiplayer versions.

edgy forum
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I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a Halo updated campaign

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Usually they’re pretty static when it comes to launch day

civic sundial
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Halo 5's utilises the same weapon balance as its multiplayer, but none of the new weapons were added to it

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Plus I'm pretty sure they made tweaks to the enemy AI to prepare for WZFF and those changes happened in campaign too

cunning jungle
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Nice to see Helioskrill, pretty scummy it's a paid cosmetic though. It's not too late to add another unlock method however

civic sundial
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I doubt they'll be changing plans for how to obtain Helioskrill at this point

edgy forum
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Eh it’s an okay armor for me in Halo 5, never wear it that much

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This doesn’t affect me by a dozen

final scroll
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i mean the haunted helmet was paid and in the exchange

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i doubt itll be in the exchange because they probably would have mentioned it in the livestream, but its technically possible

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anyways, im not too interested in it either way.. helioskrill was my favorite armor in 5 but i think the armor is wayyyyyyyyyyy better than the helmet, and we arent getting much of the suit

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i'd rather helioskrill be a kit

civic sundial
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My delusional hope is we one day see a Gen 2 core which brings back some of the armour as it looked in Halo 5

final scroll
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that'd be cool, fingers crossed it happens one day 🤞

civic sundial
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Like, some stuff I doubt we'll see, like Scout and Recon since we have multiple versions of those in Halo Infinite already

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But stuff like Hunter, Technician, Copperhead, Argus and Dynast would be nice to see

final scroll
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i always loved mako, that suit was so cool

civic sundial
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Also the default for this hypothetical Gen 2 core should be Recruit

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Mako was an interesting one

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I wouldn't be against it returning

final scroll
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a part of what makes it so cool to me is just how rare water environments are in halo, we've spent a lot of time on the ground in snowfields, deserts, jungles, and cities, lots of time high in the sky and in space, but i cant think of any real proper marine environments, its cool that theres a dedicated underwater spartan suit

civic sundial
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There's a couple multiplayer maps in Halo 5 set in an underwater facility as well as a mission inside a city on the oceans of Sanghelios, and not mentioning Halo 2's Regret where you go underwater via elevators to move through a Forerunner facility, but we've yet to dive under water properly

normal mountain
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Wait which map is in an underwater facility?

final scroll
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fathom was one of em

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you can see whales and stuff out the windows

normal mountain
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Yea, too bad you need Gamepass to use forge lmao

civic sundial
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Riptide is the other but the idea is that it's in an ocean that's been suddenly drained

cunning flint
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does anyone know what time today's update goes live?

final scroll
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same time the shop and daily challenges reset each day

cunning flint
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will that adjust for DLS?

final scroll
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i dont know... but i dont see why not?

edgy forum
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Can’t wait to flex my Mark VI GEN1 armor

civic sundial
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One of us

short flower
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Big day today!

cunning oyster
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I’m definitely noticing as I climb career ranks my KDR is increasing.

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I’m right now platinum.

dull bluff
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not able to get on until tonight. did halo drop their update?

tulip tusk
dull bluff
weary trout
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update is coming an hour later?

edgy forum
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Is it now an hour early release since Daylight Saving time ended?

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So instead of 1 PM my time it’s now 12 PM

cunning flint
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I just had to install a steam update

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logging in now to confirm the update is live

civic sundial
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It is the update

tulip tusk
cunning flint
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yeah its live

cunning oyster
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3P fire fight is lit. Now we need 3P Big team battles.

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Or what if they battlefront 2 the game and add it as a toggle? 🤔

dense hornet
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Hey, programmers should activate this setting in halo infinity to match the players that many have rapid fire that's a trap! So in destiny 2 to match that they activated it and it's much better now! #Automatic shot on all weapons!!!!

void estuary
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The update is out

worldly pivot
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how come the halo 2 chief

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has black over parts of his helmet and arms, where there was none

civic sundial
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It's not a big deal, the default Mark IV coating makes it look as close to 1 to 1 as you could get

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That or throw on a coating like one of the many cadet coatings to cosplay Red Vs Blue

worldly pivot
worldly pivot
edgy forum
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I’m loving the Mark VI armor

celest heron
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I've found that I still don't like battle creek no matter what iteration it takes.

white birch
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Too small. Too "lane"

dull bluff
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oh cool, game crashes when before i even load in the main menu

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verify file integrity time

half junco
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Came back to checkout the update because I heard MkVI was coming back but apparently it’s an armour kit in the shop…?

white birch
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Yep

dull bluff
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alr, where do i go to submit a ticket? the game keep crashing everytime I try to load into the game after this update.

sullen kilnBOT
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Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

dull bluff
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thank you

feral mortar
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They broke the vanilla Sidekick texture

cunning oyster
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I know how to make Halo MCC better. Let us change enemy color outlines.

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I must play Halo Reach with pink enemy outlines

celest heron
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should finally have enough sp with the bp to get the haunted helmet. I hope this is the last item that has that high a price.

polar geyser
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Random question is all of spartan ops on mcc?

civic sundial
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It is

civic sundial
polar geyser
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I heard it was supposed to have like 50 missions

civic sundial
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Spartan Ops consists of 10 episodes, each containing 5 missions

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And I've played all of the missions in MCC so I can confirm they're all there

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(Just wish they were easier on legendary solo but that's more an issue with how Spartan Ops was done than anything else)

polar geyser
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Oh okay thanks

sturdy kernel
civic sundial
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Not useful when a Phantom I need to kill is being supported by Fuel Rod Grunts and Elites and I need to make sure I reach a Mantis on time before they all kill the Phantom and then I have to replay the whole mission all over again only to see my friendly Phantom reach zero health and the cycle happens over and over and over and over

polar geyser
civic sundial
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Did you actually scroll at all or did you just select the first episode and then the first mission in that?

polar geyser
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I selected the episode and only did the first mission.

civic sundial
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Ok, there's more. You need to scroll right to see the other missions within an episode

polar geyser
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I didn’t realize they were episodes I thought they were just missions

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I feel so dumb realizing it now 😭

civic sundial
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Again, there's 10 episodes, each containing 5 missions. That's why Spartan Ops has a total of 50 missions

polar geyser
rotund arrow
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I still want to be able to play Super Fiesta on community made maps again, like we used to be able to before the match composer dropped. Also, no coatings for the MA5K Avenger?

onyx latch
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They should add a third person skull to Halo MCC.

bleak nymph
#

Anyone on PC getting an error claiming you're using invalid anti-cheat?

tulip tusk
short flower
#

How are we feeling about the new playlist?

edgy forum
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Third Person Firefight im loving

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Delta Arena I haven’t played much today

short flower
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Victory on first delta arena match! Oddball on Ascension!

stoic canopy
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Is the new weapon only for Delta Arena? I can't see it in customization.

scarlet gull
celest heron
torn trench
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MA5K will also appear in non-ranked playlists where there would be SMG weapon racks. This means where Needlers or Sentinel Beams normally spawn, MA5K can now roll there from time to time. In Squad, BTB, Quick Play, etc.

MA5K should also show up in Fiesta and Husky Raid randomly.

Normal Firefight has MA5K starts for the regular mode. And many 3P Firefight have it too.

short flower
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On this day 12 years ago, you stopped the didact from taking control of the composer. You didn’t save Cortana, but Cortana saved you, the Chief. Happy 12 years Halo 4!

void estuary
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Happy 12th Year Anniversary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

short flower
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Wild huh

obsidian jay
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halo 3 aniversary when

sturdy kernel
zealous panther
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I must say that halo 4 looks amazing for a Xbox 360 game and even in 2024.

final scroll
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always enjoyed halo 4, good game :)

sturdy kernel
coarse dagger
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Lots of people enjoyed Halo 4, I had a blast playing it

upper crescent
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halo 4 is top 3 honestly

frosty condor
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John Halo has spoken

final scroll
civic sundial
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I honestly think Halo 4's artstyle is much better than people give it credit for

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Like, I do think Chief shouldn't have changed into the Mark VI MOD while sleeping and that design was saved for a debut in Halo 5, but the armour itself looks great

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Plus Requiem itself had such great environments

zealous panther
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i only hate spartan armour in halo 4

civic sundial
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Like, the entirety of Forerunner featuring blue-ish grey environment contrasting with yellow glows from cracks in the ground and the Forerunner structures

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Or the jungles of Infinity feeling really green

final scroll
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I really liked the new spartan armor explicitly because it didn't look like classic spartan armor, there was an entire subplot in the background of the story about chief being replaced and commodified by cheap copies, and i think the spartans being stripped down and mass produced helps that theme

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Spartan Thorne like.. EXPLICITLY confronts Halsey in spartan ops because she doesn't consider the S-IV's to be "real spartans"

zealous panther
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this armour doesn't looks like armour

final scroll
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their armor takes a ton of design cues from elite combat harnesses, and i think theres something so sweetly bitter about chief's replacements looking like his worst enemies

zealous panther
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it is spandex costumes with some random placed metal things on it

civic sundial
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Those undersuits looked nothing like spandex

final scroll
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yea, i dont care if people dont vibe with the look but thats such a stretch

zealous panther
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yeah, sure. I will never forget undressing scene at the end of the halo 4. Nothing like that... sure

final scroll
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???

civic sundial
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Chief didn't take the undersuit off in Halo 4

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And we see them quite literally unscrewing screws from the armour so Chief can take off the armour

final scroll
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theres so many bad things with halo 4, so many mistakes and criticisms to be made, whats the point in just making stuff up??

zealous panther
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please, watch the cutscene

civic sundial
#

I have, many times

civic sundial
zealous panther
# civic sundial I have, many times

and you didn't catch that metal things screw together and not with the undersuit? You can literally see his arm and chest piecess falls off.

final scroll
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did you think they screwed into his skin????????????????????

zealous panther
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obviously not duh

final scroll
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then whats the problem? obviously the armor is gonna be latched together with hardpoints

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the armor wasnt strapped to the undersuit in bungies games either

zealous panther
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problem as i said before this is undersuit that looks like a spandex costume with random metal parts placed on top of it.

civic sundial
civic sundial
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Because the undersuits don't look like spandex

final scroll
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yea, they look leathery or like textured rubber

civic sundial
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Aye

final scroll
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again, halo 4 isnt perfect and its got problems, we dont need to lie about stuff that doesnt exist

civic sundial
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I'd wager they were intending more for the latter over the former when it comes to material

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Though in Halo 5, the undersuits look more like leather

final scroll
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if i could change only one thing about halo 4's customization, it would be bringing back halo 3's third color slot and using that for the undersuit and armor markings

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its so hard to tell armor apart when the same color is used for the whole body, and forced armor colors on some pieces made me not wanna use em because it didnt fit with the rest of my look

civic sundial
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Aye, I agree with that. Much of the armour looks better when it doesn't match the colour on the undersuit

zealous panther
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spandex is a general name for many types of polyurethane elastic threads, highly elastic rubber-like fibers. It is not used in its pure form, but it is used literally everywhere, for example, it is added to the production of wetsuits because it is elastic and durable.
So I don't know why I'm writing this, I guess I'm too old, but before, literally anyone who wore a tight suit that looked like rubber was called spandex-clad, like Sam Fisher or any superhero.

final scroll
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i mean yeah spiderman wears spandex, its a stretchy cloth suit. but ive never heard anyone call sam fishers suit spandex? i always heard people making fun of him for wearing a leather catsuit

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and this server is family friendly, so i cant get into the jokes made about metal gear solid's raiden, but nobody said that was spandex either

civic sundial
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And surely this makes it self defeating point to complain about it looking like spandex, only to then list a very militaristic character as wearing spandex

zealous panther
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my point not the material itself. My point was that it looks like a undersuit with stuff on top of it.

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yes i understand that canonically it was always like that basically, but before it was looking like a one suit. here it looks like just few separate pieces on the undersuit

final scroll
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i can see how it would be disappointing to have that view changed

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but ive always seen it as a fullbody undersuit with armor laid on top

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same with the elites, first they put their undersuit on, then the armor clamps on top

zealous panther
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yeah, you right. it was always like that, but in h4 it just made few steps forward too far for my liking. Especially hands

analog salmon
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So one map with abysmal performance (cliffside) is removed, only for another one to be added

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Can we just not. My biggest wish for this game is more maps but this ain’t it.

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What happened to QA with 343 I will never understand. Say what you want about halo 5, it had polish

edgy forum
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I feel bad for whoever’s in charge of the Halo YouTube making posts when you got trolls in the comments below.

civic sundial
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Sadly the trolls aren't easy to get rid of

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Easier to ignore and not engage with them

spare finch
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what's the best armor coating for the new Master Chief armor kit, rn i'm using hunted because it's all green

edgy forum
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I put on Hero Rank coating for it, that is if you’re Hero

spare finch
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I'm around 12 ranks away from hero

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it's gonna take a while

edgy forum
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HCS coatings go hard on the armor

civic sundial
spare finch
spare finch
civic sundial
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Another alternative I will offer is Noble Observer. Sure you have blue shoulders but it is a good green too

edgy forum
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Where is the Wall Breacher coating?

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My friend has been dying to wear white and blue since day one lol he needs this

civic sundial
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Or Platinum Anniversary if you're ok with the gauntlets having some grey on them

spare finch
civic sundial
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Aye

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I did just notice some parts of the undersuit are a bit more brown than the usual black on the Mark VI but that's not really an issue

civic sundial
spare finch
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but so does green man, even though the neon forest green highlights weirds me out a bit

spare finch
edgy forum
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Yeah the Wall Breacher coating someone posted on another server was fully white except blue on the shoulders, thighs, and other spots around the armor.

civic sundial
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Oh that's one you got from Target two years ago! I have no clue how you're meant to get that now

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As an alternative (As I'm pretty sure it's in the exchange), there is Sapphire Grey, it makes your body blue and shoulders and helmet white

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As the only way to get Wall Breacher now is via scalpers selling codes for it on Ebay and I can safely say it's not worth the prices they're pushing for

edgy forum
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RIP

civic sundial
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Either way, there are at least some options that could work for now until Wall Breacher comes to the exchange (And make all those codes worthless)

civic wind
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Ok, so I recently got a group of myself and three friends to play though MCC (with the first two games split up into two parties of two), and it started great, but on Halo 2 me and the person I was playing with were unable to finish certain levels without it crashing on us (often the levels that were vehicle focused). We were watching the other two as they got through these levels and opted to not bother finishing the game ourselves so we could just move on to Halo 3 and hope it would be better (and all be together). But we can't make it 5 minutes in the first level without getting kicked with a helpful error message of "an error occurred while playing co-op campaign". The other two can play together fine, but if either me or him try joining then the game always crashes. We really wanted to enjoy this, but the shocking technical state of MCC means that each session (which we can only arrange to be once a week) devolves into debugging that gets worse with every game.

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I would appreciate if I could be pointed in teh direction of some fixes, I think I know whats cocking me over, but my friend's only discrepancy between him nad the other two is that he is using the xbox app to play, whereas the other two are using steam

celest heron
#

is ardent prayer the only linear ff map?

final scroll
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i think so

celest heron
#

okay. was wondering cause I got it three times in a row.

final scroll
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im wanting to make a Crow's Nest remake thats linear firefight.. but ive never completed a forge map and never messed around with scripting so.

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i probably wont

civic sundial
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I think I saw a remake of the map in the custom browser

final scroll
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is it a functioning firefight map?

civic sundial
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I didn't go check the map out, was trying out a different map instead

final scroll
#

aw shucks

glacial tartan
civic wind
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we figured that, but we're past it now. Is H3 the same? Thus far it seems significantly worse

glacial tartan
#

No, H2 is much worse.

celest heron
#

h2 playlist needs a starting secondary. literally dying off spawn by sidekicks at distance cause I can't get another gun.

analog salmon
visual cove
#

Just saw the new Infinite update. Do we really finally have playable Sangheili?

edgy forum
analog salmon
civic sundial
visual cove
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Any new free cosmetics, while we're at it?

edgy forum
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Yeah again a daily reminder that playable elites are not a priority, but keep a lookout for future game potentials!

civic sundial
visual cove
civic sundial
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Aye, you need to complete this month's operation for it

visual cove
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Ah, neat!

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...are we talking an Operation as in a mission or...?

vivid marsh
#

what other games would call a Battle Pass. A series of free rewards (mostly spartan points but also an armor set) that you progress through by earning xp from playing matches and completing daily/weekly challenges

visual cove
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Ah, it's a BP.

analog salmon
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i dig 3rd person

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would be ideal as a toggle in settings for PVE modes

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and campaign

celest heron
#

finally got enough sp to get the haunted helmet.

stuck grotto
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Anyone on who could help me out with the MCC

edgy path
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Wish they'd add a Sangheili-styled Spartan armor core for these Elite armor pieces to blend better with

ivory glacier
#

What’s this new gun I just got in husky raid?

warped yew
#

The MA5K?

vague night
#

I just miss playable elites...

warped yew
#

Would be cool if you could control the elite biped in the forge :>

vague night
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Ugh, I wish they'd bring back spartans vs elites invasion

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Imagine it in halo infinite with a few AI sprinkled around the map too. I know invasion warzone is a thing but not on infinite

edgy path
short heart
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why does btb in infinite cut all your music

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ingame music

sterile meadow
#

Was the MA5K supposed to be customizable? I don't see it in weapon drills either, they added the Bandit to weapon drills and you can customize the Bandit, I really wasn't expecting it to be missing those features, would have been cool to see it in a black colour like the battle rifle, or like jet black like the halo reach shotguns black colour.

edgy forum
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They’ll add it as a customizable soon

potent ravine
#

Do you think the new Halo 1-3 remakes will be added to MCC?

civic sundial
#

Where did you hear a remake of the original trilogy was happening?

potent ravine
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Internet, duh

civic sundial
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And why would they be adding brand new games to MCC?

potent ravine
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To keep it all nice and tidy in one spot

civic sundial
potent ravine
#

Mint Blitz told me

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I wonder the same about Infinite. Whether they will at some point add all games in one collection, like CoD did

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MCC seems perfect for that

coarse dagger
final scroll
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didnt mint blitz also "confirm" that tachanka battle royale was totally gonna come out before it got cancelled

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considering that infinite was announced 3 years before it actually released, im not gonna believe any rumors or speculations about whats being developed until theres an official announcement directly from Halo Studios

civic sundial
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He loves to confirm things that don't happen

final scroll
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even if a trilogy remake IS being worked on, nothings stopping microsoft from pivoting away from it or cancelling it outright at any point. until the devs say its happening, we shouldnt be expecting it

fierce sable
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Unpopular opinion, but I'd rather see a Reach remake than a trilogy remake. Its progression system alone would retain players better than Infinite can.

edgy forum
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Only real ones watch Uber Nick

tulip tusk
earnest comet
#

Mint Blitz is him

vague night
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If they're remaking the halo games, then by the gods I hope we will get playable elites

civic sundial
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Well Halo 2 doesn't work without Arbiter's side of the story so if they were to remake it, it would need Elites to be playable

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Though obviously, no remake is confirmed to be happening

wooden briar
void estuary
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If There Were To Be A Remake, What Would You Change To The Gameplay Or Graphics?

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This Can Only Be Graphics And Gameplay

civic sundial
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Unironically, sprint, slide and clamber added as base abilities

edgy latch
#

Hey, is anybody having issues with the Emissary helmet? I tried to put the warmaster's mandate helmet attachment on it, but it's not there.

lusty wraith
regal fog
#

Hall MCC needs a update where different helmets have different HUD looks

onyx latch
final scroll
lusty wraith
earnest comet
final scroll
onyx latch
white birch
white birch
void estuary
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Retconning some things in the original game might piss off some of the fans

warped yew
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Halo 4 retconned alot of stuff lol

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But as long as the final product is good. I won't mind

void estuary
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Retconning some things in the story seems ambitious

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Although I don't know if a halo CE remake would ever be planned because Halo Studios might be too busy with Halo 7 unless some other studio works on it.

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There are rumors of sledgehammer working on a halo game but I think that might not be possible because a huge part of their team were laid off and they have to make the next call of duty game which is probably their priority.

celest heron
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my guess is the rumored ce remake was the demo for the unreal engine that was revealed.

void estuary
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The Unreal Engine 5 demo is only a demonstration of what they could do with the engine. Their next game might look very different than what they are intending with the demo.

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It could look similar in some way though

edgy forum
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Like how I am a sucker to seeing Slipknot masks change over time

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Idk this whole argument that Marty O Donnell said “Forerunners were human” causes some massive debate amongst the community

warped yew
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Most of the retconned stuff I never really cared about tbh

warped yew
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Idk if this counts but Guilty Spark already knowing human English

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Besides that, idk why this topic is causing controversy. It's pretty much fact that at some point, forerunners were human

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But if it's like if should've stayed that way, then idk, it's probably controversial

jade pebble
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is it a fact tho? cus humans were their own spacefaring species before they were de-evolved by forerunners. which then is weird that there was enough time for forerunners to evolve out of humans before coming across another set of humans

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also the whole thing about english, idk if theres lore to it but if I think about it logically itd make sense that forerunners when they destroyed life and replanted it, they wouldve left something behind or made some kinda roadmap to where all species one way or another would end up learning english. either through learning it from some ancient scrolls or as a necessity when joining the covenant or something else. the great connecting point between different species from around the galaxy

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because if I were to reset a galaxy full of life, Id wanna find a way to make sure that all the species in there could in the future communicate with eachother when the time comes

lusty wraith
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This doesn’t have to be an issue. In a remake just don’t allude to any of that “controversial” history besides what already existed in CE. Problem solved

edgy forum
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Too big for my brain to comprehend and all

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Every halo game I play I always enjoy the science fiction of being an augmented super soldier hell bent on killing aliens and saving the world

white birch
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Chief ain't even hell bent, he's just doing his job

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It's not like he has a vendetta against anyone specifically. He's got a mission and he carries it out

short flower
#

3 total matches of delta arena played so far, I’m 3-0. Eventually that 0 will change…

short flower
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Ascension is quite bad for KOTH, good god.

short flower
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Too many unfair hills caused my loss.

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3-0 CTF win, much better

scarlet gull
#

It's actually kind of a big plot point in the older Halo games it's why the prophets wanted to wipe out humanity because it meant effectively the whole covenant religion was a lie because some of the forerunner were left behind and not everyone gets to go on the great journey truth even says as much in Halo 3

lusty wraith
#

got back from my trip to try out the Delta Playlist, and I'm really just genuinely so disappointed

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it is what it is, 😞

civic sundial
scarlet gull
#

Respectfully Have you not played the older Halo games? I think you misread the terminal my friend guilty spark also in Halo 3 straight up tells master chief that he's forerunner if you don't believe me you can look up the cutscenes

civic sundial
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I've seen the cutscene and I've read the terminals. Spark wasn't exactly thinking clearly given his rampancy

jade pebble
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Idk either way whatever it was its retconned

scarlet gull
scarlet gull
lusty wraith
ruby lake
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we're all forerunner

scarlet gull
# lusty wraith ya it was definitely clear /s

His motivation in 3 was still the same as it was in CE he wasn't rampant but he didn't want to see the Reconstruction of the previous ring he monitored destroyed that's why he attacked chief and killed Johnson plus he wasn't exactly shy about trying to kill chief before

scarlet gull
white birch
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Also the dude went red, shot Johnson and then started talking like Gollum, Im pretty sure he went rampant

lusty wraith
scarlet gull
scarlet gull
vivid marsh
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If he was rampant, the final stage of (Bungie's) rampancy is Meta Stability. He most likely would have not been insane by the events of CE, rampant or not.

obsidian jay
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like there are pretty simler now

frosty condor
obsidian jay
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ah

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ok

pastel crypt
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I want more ways to interact strategically in big team battles

scarlet gull
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I think More vehicle centric maps could be fun -w-

pastel crypt
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assuming skillful coordination on like a team of people actually training together, for example being able to mark on the map to specific people. For example, someone marks to a guy in the wraith or tank, aim for this location and then be able to communicate updated coordinates

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like actual artilary

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artillery

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or someone in the wasp

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being able to mark out objectives to individual squads

scarlet gull
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I like the idea of using The wraith as an artillery gun lol honestly half the time I use it like that anyway and yeah a system like that could be fun

pastel crypt
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i mean a lot of vehicles are good at artillery

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but they all kind of have different roles. Like even a warthog at a certain location at a certain angle for a particular assault

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each of the vehicles have different drop rates on the projectile, which could be coordinated

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its like really specific grenade aiming and timing

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but is effective suppressive fire for an engagement or disengagement, which needs some sort of interface for someone calling the shots

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someone in the wasp has a great view of the battlefield and is also an effective artillery piece

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most of the experience right now is so ad-lib. Where's the clan page? Where can I search for a clan in the client?

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I want to be able to make ranks in a clan and actually have packets of information that get distributed once you make a rank. Guides on what to work on for that rank, custom achievements

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training maps like the parkour community maps but for each of the different vehicles

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and squad only mic/different groupings of mics

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meaning if im on a squad with a particular objective, I can talk to only the other teammates that are also involved

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designated ranks can speak to everyone

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option for everyone to still talk to everyone but used more rarely

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so a way to coordinate communications without confusing individuals with every communication happening at once

empty rain
onyx latch
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Especially since it's confirmed through Halo 4 that symptoms of rampancy are not too different from symptoms of dementia, which he displays early and often in CE.

onyx latch
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Metastability is a state where something is stable so long as an external force does not act on it in the immediate forseeable future. Given Spark's ennui being broken by the ring's occupation by human and Covenant forces, he rapidly degenerated, hence the ramblings and eventual shortsighted turn on Chief.

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Again, a trait you see in Cortana; She approached the end phase of her lifespan and started to rapidly degenerate when circumstances changed.

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She was metastable, then Requiem happened.

crystal iron
#

So i just figured out what spartan points can do and now i see that we can buy items like armor affects with spartan points

what items are available for spartan points?

empty rain
civic sundial
crystal iron
civic sundial
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You're welcome

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Just note that some stuff you'll have to look through the customisation menu for if you want it

crystal iron
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I understand

frosty condor
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^ Team Cold Milk, I approve

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🥛

half crow
#

anyone know how to get vaulted gear that is locked from past season

keen silo
#

You cannot.
You just gotta hope it comes out eventually

half crow
#

strange when i want to give money i cant

tulip tusk
#

weird they lock or move shop items away?

half crow
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not sure but so many items say vaulted from season 1 or 2

civic sundial
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Yeah, just gotta wait and see for when they come to the exchange for allot of them

scarlet gull
# onyx latch Again, a trait you see in Cortana; She approached the end phase of her lifespan ...

Respectfully no Forerunner AI don't degrade like modern human AI in the Halo series guilty spark far older than Cortana the only one that really did was bias and that was caused by the flood hive mind and he was notable for being corrupted and that was a much more powerful flood outbreak even in Halo 2 the monitor on the other ring is literally being held by by the grave mine and it's unable to corrupt him despite being held for an completely unknown length of time

onyx latch
#

Forerunner AI still degrades. Has been that way since CE.

scarlet gull
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I mean you say that but you have no evidence anyway I'm not going to continue arguing with you when I want a discussion you clearly just want to argue friend I hope you have a good day ^~ ^

onyx latch
civic sundial
#

We literally saw Guilty Spark laser Johnson over wanting to fire an incomplete Halo too

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And then laser Chief and Arbiter in an attempt to kill them while a bigger threat was at their door

onyx latch
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Guilty Spark literally has an episode while ordering for Chief's head in CE.

scarlet gull
onyx latch
scarlet gull
# onyx latch Yeah. Those were wrong.

Sir can you stop pinging me please when I politely asked to stop the discussion the only thing you've done is tell me I'm wrong for the past 5 minutes without evidence -w-

onyx latch
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You literally ignore all the evidence we give you.

onyx latch
scarlet gull
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I apologize for that I didn't read your bio but you also ignored my points in evidence and just said I'm wrong repeatedly -w-

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Could you give me a specific example or lore?

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That definitely proves he was rampant and not acting of his own personal motivations

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^~ ^

final scroll
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yeah i was under the impression that Forerunner AI don't go rampant?

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considering the Guilty Spark and every other monitor don't lose control, even if some of them are a little quirky.. and doubly considering that Cortana was able to "cure" her rampancy by interfacing with the Domain, something that virtually every Forerunner AI has access to

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like isnt that THE established reason that the Flood's "Logic Plague" is supposed to be dangerous???? because the "uncorruptable" AI can be turned against their creators?

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if Forerunner AI can go rampant, how can we ever meet ones that aren't? Penitent Tangent is fine, Exuberant Witness doesn't seem to be malfunctioning, both monitors in Infinite are fine. shouldn't they ALL be rampant by now?

scarlet gull
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Indeed that's one of the things that makes the flood so dangerous and I agree completely it would be impossible to meet any sane forerunner AI in the games if they all went rampant

final scroll
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yea i was under the impression that Guilty Spark was just a bit spacey, not rampant. when he isn't chuckling to himself and humming he acts like every single other monitor, maybe he's just Like That

tulip tusk
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red is scary monitor mode

scarlet gull
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Yeah I always like to attribute that to his personality myself whenever someone brings up he goes red it's usually just because he's angry/desperate -w-

final scroll
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he also turns red when he destroys the Flood at the end of Floodgate, but then he just turns right back and is fine, are we meant to interpret that as him going rampant for exactly 2 seconds before regaining control????

scarlet gull
# tulip tusk red is scary monitor mode

There's also another red one that's sane being held by the flood hive mind and Halo 2 and is still trying to complete its purpose of firing the ring I forget their name though

tulip tusk
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i like the idea of forerunner ai not being able to go rampant bc after all thats why cortana found domain access so great and other AI

civic sundial
final scroll
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yeah, its like.. half the plot of halo 5

civic sundial
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Like, call me crazy but being in the grasp of the Gravemind isn't exactly a nice sunny day out

scarlet gull
final scroll
tulip tusk
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hes red he is ready to laser gravemind if he needs 🙂

final scroll
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i know he isnt fine and peachy in the clutches of the greatest threat in the galaxy, but hes not rampant

scarlet gull
onyx latch
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The reason the domain made a difference for the Created was because it basically provided them a way to 'dump' rampant data, as storage amount was a notable reason they went rampant in the first place. This was also slowly damaging the domain.

final scroll
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i wonder what went wrong with spark that he's the only rampant one in that case

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seems weird to have such a massive outlier like that

onyx latch
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He's not the only rampant Forerunner AI.

final scroll
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also makes me wonder what he was like before rampancy, because he acts the same way in the terminals so he's been losing it for thousands of years

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well yeah im sure there was millions of AI at some point, i mean in game

onyx latch
final scroll
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i get that, but he was rampant while talking with other AI and seemingly other forerunners in the terminals?

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why would they put a clearly rampant AI in charge of a Halo

onyx latch
final scroll
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but hes no different in the terminals than in game? before rampancy??

onyx latch
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His rampancy would've came in during his long term period of ennui; It would've likely been encroaching around the time he was randomly chucking parts of his ring's surface because he was bored.

onyx latch
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Words, phrases, moments, issues.

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Merely being aware of the fact you have rampancy makes it worse.

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Like, when Chief denies 343's orders, this caused an immediate rampancy episode in Halo CE, where he lapses into thinking he is talking to someone who has been dead for eons.

scarlet gull
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One of the main things I've always said is that it takes away from his character because Halo as franchise has had unique AI characters with personalities quirks and feelings and I feel like making him a generic rogue insane AI just takes away from his character a lot and plus plot wise it doesn't make sense for the first day I we meet to be rampant as he supposed to be the introduction to the forerunners in CE

onyx latch
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But the excitement, the out-of-sorts way he interacted with Chief, is visibly not his normal self.

onyx latch
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As in, that was literally the story design goal.

scarlet gull
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Quirky not insane

onyx latch
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No, insane.

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Insane doesn't mean you're going ax crazy and murdering teenaged campers who get frisky; It means you are unwell. And he was unwell.

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He visibly has several moments where he is out of touch with or completely out of reality.

scarlet gull
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I feel like your just having a bad day friend and needed to vent somewhere honestly I don't know where you're getting insane from -w-

onyx latch
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And impolite.

final scroll
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i thought rampancy was specifically the process of dying, and the failure of the AI to comprehend it

onyx latch
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No, it causes the death in the first place.

final scroll
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Cortana even bluntly says in Halo 4 "I won't survive rampancy Chief"

onyx latch
final scroll
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once again, it appears i was mistaken, as I believed that simple "insanity" and "rampancy" were different things

onyx latch
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Basically; As rampancy develops due to these increased connections, the AI gets more and more unstable, making greater 'leaps of logic' until they effectively leap themselves out of logic.

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And when they leap themselves out of logic, it causes more and more cascading failiures until they eventually undo themselves.

final scroll
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like, Cortana is a copy of Halsey right? made from a brain scan?? if halsey was clinically insane, wouldn't Cortana have come out insane as well? YEARS before rampancy?

onyx latch
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That's... Actually a good question.

final scroll
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thats why i believed Guilty Spark wasn't rampant, yeah he was spacey as i said up there, he was quirky and weird and out of touch

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but rampancy isn't survivable

onyx latch
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Forerunner AIs generally take much longer to go rampant.

final scroll
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at least, not for a human AI

onyx latch
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Like, by several orders of magnitude.

final scroll
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well, it seems I was wrong again.. thats disappointing, i thought Forerunners were cooler*

onyx latch
onyx latch
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The forerunners were amazing; Their tech was better than anything we have. But it failed because they were too proud to actually fix the problems; only delay them.

final scroll
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right, i knew the AI were still dying from rampancy (hence my belief it was unsurvivable) i just thought the Domain allowed them to stave it off, buy 7 more years

onyx latch
final scroll
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right, makes sense

onyx latch
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So I think it's safe to assume an AI made from someone who was, say, schizophrenic, the AI would likely suffer from schizophrenia.

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Much like how Iratus, who was derived from the brain scan of a brute, thinks, well, like a brute.

edgy latch
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So what you're saying is that AIs literally develop schizophrenia to the point where it just kills them.

tulip tusk
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i wanna see a steven seagal AI

onyx latch
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Smart AI going bad due to basically having entire portions of its brain swell, bloat, and rot with misinfo is actually really interesting to think about, IMO.

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As far as AI drawbacks in fiction go, it's certainly an interesting one.

final scroll
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yeah i think all that stuff is cool and all, i also thought it was cool that the forerunners found a "cure".. kinda upsetting to learn i gave the writers too much credit

onyx latch
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Actually, interestingly, you actually see something similar, in a way, in our "AI" iterative algorithms these days.

When they take from the pool of images that now includes AI images, it starts to make worse versions of the original AI art's mistakes.

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Which implies that sampling its own thoughts, so to speak, is poisonous to effective iteration algorithms.

scarlet gull
onyx latch
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All good.

scarlet gull
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^~ ^

onyx latch
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I mean, literally the entire architect of the fall of the Forerunners-at least on a military front-was their AI getting corrupted and going rampant.

It would've been all too easy to say Forerunner tech just doesn't die, because it's that good, but that's narratively cheap.

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Making it still have a common failure point with human tech makes them more... Relateable, in a way.

final scroll
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i understand theres a ton of new lore on the forerunners from the last 15 years, but i always try to understand stories in the context of their creation. and from my understanding playing through halo ce, 2, and 3, is that forerunners were an unstoppable force of creation, of life, of love. they made their worlds into paradises, stable ecosystems, their people and even their AI did not live in fear of death... until the flood showed up, a cosmic force of entropy and decay

scarlet gull
final scroll
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the forerunners appeared as gods, and the flood humbled them and the entire galaxy

onyx latch
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I hate the humans being forerunner thing.

scarlet gull
final scroll
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i dont care if the humans are forerunners or not, i think that the forerunners should appear ineffable

onyx latch
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It's not enough to have the utopia be crushed; You need to show the issues with said utopia in the first place.

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The things that allowed the corruption to rot and fester and break the utopia.

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A utopia, in concept, is horrifying.

scarlet gull
uneven bison
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It gives the flood more power too

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If the forerunners were mysterious we’d lose the menace the flood has

onyx latch
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Like, the book Brave New World showcases a utopia; The thing about utopias is that they are an inattainable standard.

final scroll
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i thought that was the point? the utopia WAS broken, it wasn't something that could be maintained

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all we have left is the ruins of it, glimpses into a perfect world that cannot exist

uneven bison
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That’s the point it was never perfect

onyx latch
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Right. But the point is that a 'true' utopia is an unattainable goal in the first place. Utopias are never perfect.

final scroll
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and thats what makes the forerunners so mystifying? they did the impossible, and the universe corrected itself

uneven bison
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It gives the covenant more nuance in return as well, they worshipped a society with huge problems that would stomp them under their feet given the chance

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They worship something that would never return that favor

onyx latch
final scroll
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and speaking of the covenant, i thought it made a fun rhyme. they believed the forerunners were simple mortals who transcended into godhood, in my reading of the story, it was the opposite. the forerunners were gods who realized that transcendence could not be attained and destroyed their utopia

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i understand im wrong here, i should point that out, i know the new lore is very clear on the forerunners entire deal with regards to elitism and stomping out the weak

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but when i play the original games, in the context of their release, i dont look around in horror of space fascism, i see a creative and artistic people who achieved the impossible and created a paradise

onyx latch
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I mean, there were flaws back in Bungie's day as well.

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You don't decide your last resort is going to be a galaxy-killing superweapon because you're a good person.

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And the builder being the epitome of what was flawed about the Forerunners is, similarly, outlined in 3.

scarlet gull
onyx latch
final scroll
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again, i can see how you and so many people (including 343) came to that conclusion, i just think thats a lame conclusion and takes all the fun out of it

onyx latch
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I don't see much entertainment value in infallibility. It violates the very spirit of science fiction.

final scroll
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"oops the pristine and shiny good guys are actually evil" is not groundbreaking science fiction either

onyx latch
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It isn't. It's foundational.

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Foundational and traditional.

final scroll
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i respectfually disagree

onyx latch
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I mean, you can disagree all you want, but it's literally been a thing since the start of sci fi.

final scroll
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you may believe that if you want

onyx latch
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Like, it was even a thing in Frankenstein.

wooden briar
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It's a foundational thing in Western science fiction literature, not worldwide.

onyx latch
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Before his monster was awoken, Doctor Frankenstein spends a paragraph explaining the beauty of his construct, moments before it turns to abject horror when he realized what he's done.

final scroll
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gentle reminder that the beauty of his creation was a corpse strapped to a table and electrocuted until it woke up

onyx latch
wooden briar
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Western literature is very influenced by Europe's long history of living among the unexplained wonders of the Forerunners (Romans) whose achievements they couldn't understand and instead wondered at for centuries.

onyx latch
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I mean, honestly, if you think Halo hit much new ground thematically or symbolically, you're... Kinda wrong.

final scroll
onyx latch
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

final scroll
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im wrong, i just think it would be cooler if i wasnt

tulip tusk
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maybe the flood can invent some additional monsters to their ranks. like even if the new form isnt flood itself just used by primordials

white birch
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Thats...the Floods entire thing, dude. They aren't held in place by anything.
They adapt and make new forms as needed

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What moron put this seed into peoples brains that everything in the games is only what they can do?

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Have people just not read the Mona Lisa?

uneven bison
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“The flood does not create for when it can infest instead.”

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The encyclopedia itself says it in regards to hives

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Pure forms are different, but the flood is adaptable is my point

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Don’t think it’s limited by anything

civic sundial
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The only thing about the Flood that doesn't change is their goals

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And well, the fact they grow by infecting life

vast nova
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in a couple 'o' hours i'll see what my 6y/o bro's favorite "Future Army man" Game ( Halo game) is

tulip tusk
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b4 they decided lets go flood mode

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can be anything from mechanical, bioform, or energy based creation

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can be an interesting thing, more primordial tools before flood was the final

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perhaps a pure energy form would be most like a primordial tool

vague night
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(Such as the flood forms from halo wars. Lemme fight them in firefight or somethin!!!)

tulip tusk
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can be an original idea tbh bc all people associate with precursors are the flood, but thats only a part of them

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primords were gods and could do anything, not just the flood, dont rage against such a possibility lol

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but i get feeling no one wants to discuss something like this for some reason

vague night
tulip tusk
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bc the flood, compared to what prescursors were capable of, are simple tools and creations

vague night
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I'm trying to type something but it got blocked 🥺

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From what I understand, the flood is a product of the precursors being corrupted by anger. I heard the gravemind in lore claims to be a precursor though I have doubts its really true. Maybe a fraction of what one really is? Or maybe it means what it will be one enough biomass is obtained

tulip tusk
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ye i feel like that primordial was a twisted form of the precursors. perhaps they were not always like him or perhaps not as brutal. maybe the primordial was not a gravemind at all, could he flood-infect beings on his own? the flood may just be the tool that the primordial went with

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flood was prob not their only tool

vague night
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A terrifying thought if that were the case. I wonder what else they have up their sleeves

tulip tusk
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indeed but i already got dude moron bro'd to suggest it LOL

vague night
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Wait, wbat is the primordial? I've heard of it a few times in lore but never understand what is it. Is it related to the precursors?

civic sundial
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You remember the Gravemind in Halo 2? That creature has the same consciousness as the Primordial, who was said to be the last Precursor

uneven bison
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Who also had the same memories and experiences of every single other gravemind

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It literally gets smarter every time it dies

onyx latch
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IE, it got smart enough that it could just freely do whatever with biomass, so they became 'better'.

civic sundial
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I could see that

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So the "Precursor dust" didn't so much corrupt and more reverted

onyx latch
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That's how I see it.

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Because we don't know what the Precursors evolved from.

warped yew
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Cuz like didn't they evolve into the flood?

unique halo
hallow dagger
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So can we not customize the new sub machine gun?

warped yew
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Ah so it wasn't even evolution

coarse dagger
warped yew
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What machine gun?

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Oh wait sub machine gun my bad

warped yew
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Lol true

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One of the best MP and Campaign experiences ever

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Please don't attack me, this is just my opinion lol

tulip tusk
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Yea it all worked out in the end

edgy forum
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Could people say the same with Infinite?

tulip tusk
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Eh it's been pretty fun i like the forge

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I like h2 campaign more for sure

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And the h2 anniversary campaign i really appreciated

analog salmon
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if they nail the sequel, Infinite will be seen as a great buildup to whatever that is

warped yew
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If not, then well it is what it is

edgy forum
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I mean in the sense of reshaping how Halo changes the direction of its future

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With all the drama, feedback, and leadership changes ending up with switching to Unreal Engine and all that

tulip tusk
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idk at end of day just punch me in the face

warped yew
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Ok

edgy forum
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Nah

tulip tusk
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i just rememberd ive never been able to melee wraiths with Q key, ever since startting Infinite

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but i forgot to bring it up for couple years. also idk how to dodge with banshee

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like i board the wraith and it says press q to melee, i hit q and does nothing

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any1 else

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maybe i should try trigger i thought i did though

warped yew
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I just press all the buttons tbh

unique halo
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I think that in the end, everything from the bungie trilogy worked out perfectly. The only drawback was the botched release of halo 2 and even then, it was a great game

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True

coarse dagger
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If Halo 2 came out the way Bungie intended, Halo would have ended and they would have moved on to Destiny earlier

unique halo
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Maybe if they didn't spend all their resources on halo reach/ODST destiny would have been better

lusty wraith
coarse dagger
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I'd have been fine with H2 closing things out and not having an H3

final scroll
unique halo
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I think if H2 came out the way bungle intended, Microsoft would have wanted H3 even more

lusty wraith
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I still love the story js

unique halo
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Yeah

final scroll
unique halo
final scroll
unique halo
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Yeah, just different energies and quirks that people didn't like. Still just as good

warped yew
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So much world building in 8 mission campaign. The citizens of Mombasa coming out to help you, the quippy jokes of the marines.

wispy kestrel
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I might be making some people mad here but what about Halo CE remastered with unreal engine

warped yew
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Why not tbh

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A remake would be fire af for the people who say CE hasn't aged well

wispy kestrel
final scroll
wispy kestrel
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Could you imagine playing Halo CE but it's unreal engine

warped yew
wispy kestrel
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And Halo 4 didn't help with Halo 3 story

warped yew
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It's just much more fun to go through those missions even though half of the game is just filler

austere cradle
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I'm trying to do the Halo LASO achievement on Halo 4. The mission Composer is bugged? Anyone know of the bug and how to fix? I've tried resetting checkpoint multiple times, and restarted the level twice. I just keep getting stuck, won't let me proceed beyond a certain point

wispy kestrel
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Halo reach was ahead of its time

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In graphics and gameplay

warped yew
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Halo Reach has some questionable hate imo. I see hate about that game in this server just because it retconned alot of stuff in books, but Halo 4 kinda did the same with alot of stuff

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Like both have sandbox issues too and the missions aren't the overall best they could be

wispy kestrel
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Yeah

warped yew
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Halo 4's Shutdown is one of the most mid missions ever. You ride a gondola twice with having to stop and take detour multiple times. Reach is like mid with some of its missions. Tip of the Spear keeps alot of its big battles in the sidelines rather than in the actual gameplay

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Like we don't even fight a scarab.

unique halo
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Lorewise, a scarab fight would have been out of place on reach

warped yew
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Because?

final scroll
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my dislike of reach is much more reasonable. i just dont vibe with it. lowered jump height, lower movement speed. not enough to make a huge impact on gameplay, just enough to kind of annoy me. armor abilities were meh, i preferred 3's equipment (except hologram, best equipment). bloom was meh, not bad i just preferred the other approach

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its not a bad game by any means, it just doesnt appeal to my tastes specifically. red isnt a bad color, i just like blue :)

warped yew
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Same tbh. Most of my issues with 4 and Reach lie in the general gameplay and it's just not as good as what we had before

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Though that armor lock be frustrating sometimes lol

unique halo
# warped yew Because?

The covenant thought reach wasnt very important, so they didn't expend very much resources on it, and if there were many scarabs, noble team would have done their best to avoid it

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It would have been fun though

warped yew
signal ivy
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there were plenty of scarabs on reach

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including ones that were right in front of you

final scroll
unique halo
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True

warped yew
warped yew
# unique halo True

Oh yeah I remember now, there were lines for actually fighting scarabs. I think one came from Carter. Though not sure who uncovered this. Digsite or somebody else

unique halo
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I agree with that, I think I'm just defending reach because of nostalgia bias

signal ivy
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admitting it is the first step 👏

final scroll
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my biggest frustration with classic halo, back in 2009, 2010 etc, was that people would quit games and there was no join in progress.. i had TONS of games that ended up in actual 1v4 scenarios, more than i can count. and armor lock was the equalizer that helped me fight 3 or 4 people at once..... in hindsight, no equipment should be SO GOOD that 1 person can solo 4 others, but i was biased towards enjoying it for my bad luck with quitters

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granted, the only reason i could 1v4 with armor lock was because the matchmaking was so much more relaxed back then, im sure nowadays i'd still get torn apart regardless

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sbmm has come a long way

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but the fact that i could be put in a "unwinnable scenario" and come out on top was 1. kinda satisfying and 2. bad game design

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so if anyone was online in 2010 seeing people defend armor lock, i was one of them and im sorry

warped yew
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It's ok.

final scroll
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:P

lusty wraith
final scroll
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if people want to experience CE "just like it was 30 years ago" then MCC is right there and its dirt cheap, the classic experience is easy and convenient to play

wispy kestrel
unique halo
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I'm pretty sure that the next halo games to come have been revealed to be unreal 5 remakes of the first 2 or 3 games

final scroll
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i think those were leaks, and im always distrustful of those on principle. there was a big halo battle royale that got leaked but never announced, and then cancelled internally for an unknown reason before it was ever officially publicly acknowledged

unique halo
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Fair

final scroll
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until we get an official trailer from Halo Studios saying "heres what we're gonna release" im not getting my hopes up for anythin

unique halo
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The trailer I saw had the chief in mark 5 armor with unreal 5, but I don't really know

final scroll
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i think that was just the announcement that 343 was rebranded to Halo Studios and that they plan to use Unreal 5 going forward, and showing off the graphical fidelity of Unreal and what halo might look like in that engine

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kinda like how Infinite's slipspace engine was first "revealed" with a simple promo of a warthog driving down a road in front of a forerunner tower, despite the fact that theres only one mission in Infinite that involves those towers, they were just showing off the tech

unique halo
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Oh ok

final scroll
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that said, i do think theres some credibility to the CE leaks, i dont know how much we're allowed to talk about it here tho

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but in short, Halo Studios has mentioned that they are working on multiple games, and that their goal is to make many smaller games in a shorter time rather than one big game every 5 years.. and a CE remake is perfect for that, the original CE was made in like 10 months or something, and Halo Studios doesnt need to design all new enemies and guns and encounters because they already have the blueprint in the form of the original game

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if it was rated T they would need to cut the flood entirely because thats just pure body horror and gore

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and you cannot remake CE without the flood, that composes the entire second half

warped yew
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Speaking of the over all age rating. How this game gonna be rated T when the lore ain't even like that

unique halo
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They might have just rated it without having that in mind

brittle hollow
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I'm trying to do the warthog run in Halo 3 on a Mongoose, but no matter what, whenever I get to the frigate part the ground just collapses. Restarting to lat checkpoint doesn't do anything...

unique halo
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The younger audience brought in by infinite and halo 5 might be influencing halo studios