halo-discussion

[crimson berry]

Just trying to decide what to play atm and watching YT shorts. :x

[crystal iron]

Idk depends on the time

[crimson berry]

9:30 for me.

[crystal iron]

Pm or Am

[crimson berry]

PM, I stay up till 5-6am anyway.

[crystal iron]

Bro

[crimson berry]

Not a bro. XD

[crystal iron]

My bad so like do I call you a her or they

[crimson berry]

I'm a girl.

[crystal iron]

Ok then sleep

Is anybody in this server healthy

Sleeps consistently for 8 hours, works out, eats vegetables and fruits anything???

[crimson berry]

I woke up at 2:30 it's way to early to go to bed.

[crystal iron]

Pm or Am

[crimson berry]

PM

[crystal iron]

So 5-6 AM to 2:30 PM

At least your getting 8 hours of sleep ig

Do you work out, eat healthy?

[crimson berry]

Nope.

[crystal iron]

[crimson berry]

Hoping to get something in the house next year or so to do that but slow moving.

[crystal iron]

Pls tell me your fit

[crimson berry]

No?

[crystal iron]

Ok

[crimson berry]

Why does any of this matter?

[crystal iron]

Why are we here

[crystal iron]

Because it’s healthy

Also why does Infinite crash again

This is the 3rd time today and I’ve only gotten to finish 2 matches today

I’m playing Titanfall 2 now I’m out

[crimson berry]

Eh.

Good luck on Titanfall though. 🙂

Btw, I asked this a while back, has anyone had any new issues with the 560.81 Nvidia drivers and this game? I been holding off on updating but it's almost been a year and want to update them soon myself.

[livid fable]

I work out about 6 hours a week, and I don't understand why more people don't eat more vegetables. They taste good.

[crimson berry]

Yet to find one I like, personally.

[warped yew]

What about fruit

[crimson berry]

Wait, potatoes.

Fruit is apple.

[warped yew]

Other way around

I just do tennis and cardio for workout but include vegetable and fruit in all my meals

[crimson berry]

I was correcting the "yet to find one I like personally"

[warped yew]

My bad

[crimson berry]

It's fine!

[livid fable]

I find the biggest problem is that people over cook them.

Cucumbers are great.

Cucumber salad with some bacon bits and the green olives is delicious.

[crystal iron]

Literally celery and ranch

So simple but so great

[livid fable]

Bleh

[crimson berry]

I hate bitter stuff and anything with vinegar.

[livid fable]

Celery just tastes like crunchy water to me

[crystal iron]

-<-

[livid fable]

I mean, neither celery or olives or cucumbers are bitter

[crimson berry]

Tell that to every search result I'm seeing.

[crystal iron]

Just eat cabbage. It’s simple so it’s a good start

[crimson berry]

Eh.

[crystal iron]

Tell that to people who actually eat the food daily

[crimson berry]

I'm not saying it's not but considering I've yet to eat one, I gotta go by what I find. And I'm not going to waste food on a chance it may be bitter. :x

[warped yew]

Well just eat fruit then

[livid fable]

I will

[warped yew]

Lmao and then the guy actually does

[livid fable]

Cucumbers are crisp and fresh. Bad cucumbers are bitter, but that's true for most things that have gone bad

[warped yew]

Arent pickles fruit

[livid fable]

Pickles are vinegared cucumbers

[crimson berry]

Reminds me, I need to tell someone to pick apples up. :x

And there is why I will never eat pickles.

[warped yew]

Well apples, oranges, and bananas should be healthy enough for you ig

[livid fable]

Okay, my buddy and I just finished running a test

Why do they make firefight harder when you have another person in your fire team

[warped yew]

It's called dynamic difficulty I think

[livid fable]

On firefight?

[warped yew]

Idk because basing the entire difficulty around 1 or 4 people and 1 person leaving just makes the experience suck

[livid fable]

If I select normal difficulty I want normal difficulty. I don't want you to start the game out with hordes of red elites and gold shield jackals and energy shield grunts

I'm picking a normal difficulty player versus environment mode

[crimson berry]

_> Apparently I typed a forbidden word.

[livid fable]

I can understand why there's an MMR bump for versus mode but this is ridiculous

[warped yew]

It is what it is

[livid fable]

It's trash is what it is

[crimson berry]

Anyway, I haven't ate an orange before in my life, bananas I stopped when I was a kid. Idk if I can handle them anymore because of a texture based thing I have with food anymore.

[livid fable]

Far ther will also ping it

[crimson berry]

Nah I got the little bot thing telling me what it was.

Eh, oh well. :X

[livid fable]

Which word was it?

[crimson berry]

Other word for crap.

[warped yew]

Oh hehe I know what it is 😝

[livid fable]

Seriously though, this is supposed to be a beer with buddies mode. How did this get screwed up.

[crimson berry]

Yeaaaaaah. :x

I have yet to play Firefight on this game I think?

Idk I might have I can't recall.

[livid fable]

I really enjoy the Halo infinite game mechanics. I wish I could play the older modes of firefight with Halo infinite mechanics.

[crimson berry]

Halo Infinite is not bad at all, I really do not like the hate it gets.

Wish people would come back.

[livid fable]

Well, when they screw up basic things repeatedly because they're trying to reinvent the wheel

[crimson berry]

I know. Hopefully with all the new people in charge, they will get it right this time around.

[livid fable]

I would like people to come back to. But that's an uphill battle even if they do make it good.

'we're not sure this game could support playlist populations if we include Slayer.'

'we tested out King of the Hill firefight and regular firefight, and we had more fun with King of the Hill firefight, so that's what we decided to make.'

'we made it to the only viable way to play firefight is online with other people. That way if one of them has Network issues, which is a guarantee with our servers, the game is made much harder much more quickly and you are far more likely to have wasted the time you spent playing the mode.'

I'm capable of leeway but a lot of these decisions are just that- decisions. It's not bad luck.

Hell, I finally get my buddy to come back to play the new mode of firefight and we're just constantly gunning down waves of advanced enemies like somebody left the elite printer on

And this was supposed to be something easy to come back into

I wonder if there's mods that let you play Halo reach with infinite mechanics.

[crimson berry]

I never really have any network issues with this game anymore.

I rarely get any packet loss now.

[keen silo]

I also scarcely have connection issues. When I do, it’s usually cause the internet on my end sucks. (Storms, lotta guests, etc)

[verbal prism]

really wish there was a far isle game

[livid fable]

Hang on a second

So we can adjust the difficulty to make it harder whenever somebody has another member in their fire team on normal difficulty

But we can't reduce the number of enemies that spawn if we have fewer than four people?

[crystal iron]

Yeah that doesn’t make sense lmao

[verbal prism]

far isle seems like a good setting for a game similar to ODST, and I think that the games should explore the Innie era

[livid fable]

Player hostile design

[crystal iron]

Well that would be weird if a player leaves like 10 ai just despawn in front of u

[livid fable]

I didn't say make them despawn

I said adjust the number that spawn

I agree despawning mid match feels very weird

If you start the game by yourself, it spawns the full amount of enemies

And it triples their land speed to make them reach the hill

[opaque lark]

I js downloaded halo infinite and my second time having a Xbox got it last week who would like to play

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[brisk ibex]

How's Infinite these days? It's been months since I last played because it felt like there was nothing to do

[civic sundial]

You can grind to get the Haunted helmet

They buffed and reworked some of the weapons

Like seriously, the Ravager Rebound is pretty fun now

[brisk ibex]

I have not heard of that weapon B4 :0

[frosty condor]

it's essentially the brute shot from the older halo games 😄

[civic sundial]

It's so fun! I wish the changes made to the sandbox were coming to the campaign though

[warped yew]

Did they ever advertise the MP splitscreen coop infinite had on launch?

[analog salmon]

not really no

co-op was suppose to be ready 3 months post launch, split screen was probably always gonna take longer then that so they never said anything about it i dont think

tbh i think it was only ever advertised in the first roadmap

[warped yew]

Ok weird cause MP splitscteen coop was there on launch lmao

[analog salmon]

i mean it was presumed because Bonnie Ross said it would be in the next game

[warped yew]

Yup

[sinful grotto]

Only campaign I have entered replayed due to lack of split screen coop.
Infinite is just a story of wasted potential such a shame.

[warped yew]

And gameplay potential wasted too

No aerial based parts too

[vale swallow]

I think the kids nowadays use the term nothing burger to describe it.

[warped yew]

What

[vale swallow]

from UD: NothingBurger
something lame, dead-end, a dud, insignificant; especially something with high expectations that turns out to be average, pathetic, or overhyped.

[warped yew]

The enterity of Halo Infinite lmao

[sullen owl]

Infinite's Forge is baller.

[sinful grotto]

It's amazing what folks can do in it. 343i cooled with forge in5 and infinite

[warped yew]

But Halo Infinite was not doing great by the time forge came out

If forge just released a month after launch. The game would've lasted much longer

[sullen owl]

100%, no doubt about it. Definitely should have been a launch feature when all eyes were on Infinite.

[warped yew]

It doesn't help CGB was broken at the time. And even if you could get into a match, there wasn't much matches to join so sad so sad

[sullen owl]

There's always next time.

[warped yew]

I hope with the next game, management will do the game good and even better unlike how Infinite was treated

[dry olive]

cheaters stole my gamertag can someone help?

[sinful grotto]

Sorry not sure what you need to do to fix that

@ivy btw the Halo5 elites don't have tongues I checked.

[celest heron]

I guess file a ticket on the support site. not sure what else you could do. they're likely just spoofing it so they didn't actually steal your account.

[dry olive]

is there a way they can tell the two appart

[full warren]

Has they mentioned this anti cheat thing yet? it keeps happening

so annoying, i have to restart

What is even triggering it, like I have the bare min on this pc, its just nvidia software

[celest heron]

probly, but they'd have to look at it deeper than a surface level video.

[livid fable]

They have not stated, no

[crimson berry]

I seriously hate we can't select how high we'd go with ping. Getting tired of 90 ping lobbies.

[crimson berry]

.... These guys just lost their escalation match cuz they bunched up and formed a line when they got the skull. :x Kept picking them off with a pistol and then they kept rushing straight in a line at us right in front of them once we got ours. Dx

[hollow grove]

anyone else have long load times now?

[warped yew]

Always

[spare oar]

G

[open umbra]

At least you only have to deal with 90+ ping matches. 150~300+ ping matches are normal for me.

[analog salmon]

at this point i just wanna be able to find ranked matches when im awake lol

found two since 5pm and now im just timing out

give me 150ms idc

[full warren]

at 150ms are you really playing lol, you just loose rank at that point

[analog salmon]

lol i hit onyx in ranked slayer on american servers. mostly 100ms but some matches 160

above thatt and yeah ur just losing too much

[vale swallow]

There's not much halo can do in campaign I feel.
what else can they do with the story?

• alien attack on earth? already done
• new infestation on galactic scale? already __done __(endless are just flood 2.0 right?)
• blow up a halo? kinda already done (and even if they blow it up, unless it destroys the earth, do we care? nope)
• covenant v human war, done

[civic sundial]

Weird criticism of the series

And the Endless aren't like the Flood, if they were, Harbinger would have been infecting everyone on Zeta Halo when Escharum was released

And last I checked, a Halo being destroyed is something people would care about, because they're deadly weapons capable of wiping out all life in the galaxy, that's not something you want in the wrong hands

[wooden briar]

What we need to really freshen up the series is a racing game: hog runs, mongoose stunts, sabre racing. Halo: Racing Evolved

[keen silo]

Only if the plot was entirely dependent on racing in order to stop the flood

[civic sundial]

This I agree with. Especially if we get to see things like Chief, Escharum and Truth racing against one another

[keen silo]

Would Spartans be nicknamed Speed Demons?

[civic sundial]

Only Kelly

[analog salmon]

okay come on

[civic sundial]

Also, I have to know, what was your reaction when Star Wars introduced and then destroyed Death Star II?

[analog salmon]

wait i'll clip the end off

[tulip tusk]

i dont like this take

[analog salmon]

idk whats up with the European servers today but this was just the most egregious thing i witnessed

i think if i was that guy i might have rage quit

[civic sundial]

You were the protagonist in that game

[keen silo]

I forget we can change the colors for enemies and friendlies. I know what I’m doing today

[civic sundial]

Is there anything specific about it you want to explain further about why you don't like their take? Curious about what other people think of it now

[tulip tusk]

i feel the one and done idea is too limited and some points didnt make sense. earth being attacked again bc it has that forerunner portal installation or maybe more idk.

• galaxy infestation hasn't been done yet only in books
• blowing up halo works but i doubt any power wants to activate them anymore anyway that was a prophet idea. More likely it will be last ditch effort or maybe a goal one group/military fights towards in event of flood galaxy wide infestation, while the other side has a different method they want to try before activating rings
• yea there is no more covenant so idk how they would war again. but other adversaries will be around long as Halo is a thing

Earth is humanity homeworld so will always be a target

[civic sundial]

Agreed with all your points

And on that point about war with the Covenant, there's always going to be those who want to keep fighting, which we have seen already with the Covenant Remnants. Then there's also the fact that we have not seen what's going to happen in 100 years from the present day of Halo. For all we know, a new alliance bands together and ends up waging war against someone else

[tulip tusk]

That's true I do wonder how the remnants are doing

[civic sundial]

Some allied with the Banished as it's their only viable chance of survival, others still doing their own thing

[wooden briar]

Underrated comment

[wooden briar]

Set a fire in your engines 🏎️

[civic sundial]

Bare your tires!!!

Race hard!! Drive well...

[spare finch]

godspeed master chief

[grave ether]

(insert "only with the ability to sprint" without triggering another sprinting in halo debate)

[keen silo]

Don’t give them any ideas lol

[crimson berry]

I honestly have not seen above 90 as of late.

[spare finch]

The amount of ghost users make it harder to play the game as well

There was a round with two ghosts spawn camping, and 4 snipers

[tidal mountain]

can you get mcc rank exp in / from Firefight?

[civic sundial]

In matchmaking Firefight yes

[spare finch]

Trying ranked, wish me luck

[spare finch]

Smh one person keeps being on the enemy team that’s annoying me

I did not want to matchmake with a 20 kill silver player

[viral token]

i just got an autograph from the voice actor for Master Chief from Halo
a friend of my mom's got it for me

[keen silo]

NICE

[upper tulip]

Rewatching Halo 2 cutscene movie lol

I love how good the remastered cutscenes are

[spare finch]

After 5 matches, i’m silver IV in ranked arena

[upper tulip]

Nice

I usually just play firefight

I wish they could bring Warzone Firefight to Halo Infinite

I loved that

[full warren]

meet any smurfs?

I only ever play 5 games per season just to be put in D4 every time and I have no motivation to go beyond it

[spare finch]

Only one smurf account

[spare finch]

Got a triple kill back smacks

[full warren]

I guess if I dont get over 30 kilsl in a slayer its a lost game. wtf is this match making

I am literally the best player on either team and I still can't win

[spare finch]

I got a koth ranked round where the enemies left after 3 hill captures were quickly made by my team

Easy victory ig

[rough cove]

Yk what would be cool?
If you could trade spartan points for credits
Like every 1k spartan points is equal to 100 credits

[warped yew]

Just realized miss chance to make the Banished drive mongoose, gungooses, wasps, warthogs, scorpions, razorback considering they are just space pirates

[spare finch]

UNSC: it can’t do that, shoot it… or something

I’m so good at ranked arena that the ranking system removes points 💀

[crimson berry]

Can I please stop getting 70+ ping for my first game on. Dx

[frosty condor]

I average 180 when I play. You’ll be fine

[analog salmon]

up to about 125ms has never been that bad

i remember playing MCC before they added server selection, and it was only the West and Central US servers at like 150+ms that really irritated me

with Infinite I genuinely can't tell the difference between European and East US servers. They never feel amazing but its playable.

recently the 100ms servers have been feeling better then the 30ms servers

[azure lily]

Bro I just finished Halo Reach

such a good campaign i spent a good 4 days on it

[warped yew]

How many games have you finished

[azure lily]

Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo Infinite, and now Reach. I'm half way thru Halo 3, started Halo 4, and got bored in Halo 5

[young plank]

Halo reach question. In the singleplayer/firefight, how'd you feel about armor lock?

I know people hate armor lock in the multiplayer but I'm asking on a PVE standpoint.

[zenith holly]

Pve armor lock was fine, the exception was your load out on firefight with just a pistol and shotgun but on the bright side everyone kept running the DMR/AR sprint and die and you can just pick it up

[young plank]

I see.

[oak laurel]

I maybe played 5 during the entire existence of Halo Infinite

[lean pike]

does halo 2 on the original hardware have a lot of texture and LOD pop-in during cutscenes typically? I'm just tuning my xbox and trying to make sure the ssd and cables are acting right

[sinful grotto]

And the banished coatings were in the launch build. And we had no banished marines of spartans I think it was a missed opportunity a very surprising and memorable combat encounter in the campaign.
Hell brutes use the spankr.

[sinful grotto]

Not to my knowledge.
The vistas and mcc have some texture streaming issues though and load cutscenes differently rather than having them preloaded and streamed directly at a levels end.

[lean pike]

hmm, i see. currently it looks like this footage on yt https://youtu.be/h2UwkZBAfPA?t=565

the timestamped cutscene shows it pretty clearly

[sinful grotto]

That's a bug I guess I played halo 2 on xbox like 2 weeks ago and didn't get that issue.
Is it on the harddrive or reading from disc?
Edit: I regret clicking that link. I vowed never to watch HF videos again lmao.

[civic sundial]

Fighting humans isn't really what Halo is about when it comes to the stories in the main games. Plus like, Banished Spartans is something that is iffy at best and just doesn't make sense to happen outside of the one time it has happened in canon. Also Brutes armed with human weapons dates back to Halo 2, sure it was done then because Bungie didn't design a full arsenal of weapons for them back then but it fits in with Brutes to scavenge and use weapons of their fallen enemies

[lean pike]

that's a channel with less than 30 subs, there's lore on this guy?

also yeah I'm playing from an ssd over 80 pin through a rom

[warped yew]

Could've been halo 2 but Bungie couldn't tune them right in time to be fun to fight

[sinful grotto]

Not really.
The entire EU is pretty heavy on human insurrection. And human betrayal and humans siding with aliens over the unsc.
The unsc created a near omnipotent space tyrant and the banished set the galaxy free from her reign.
Pretty strong argument their for joining them.
Ilsa is the only banished but not the only spartan turn coat.
Hell Mickey betrayed alpha 9.

And the banished allow humans in their ranks.
We've seen marines go mad in CE faced by flood.
If you were a prisoner of cannibalistic space apes it could have a similar effect.

Ya they used human weapons and so vehicles and soldiers wouldn't be a stretch at all?
Halo has literally had us fight humans in every game just not in campaign.

I really don't see any decent arguments here for not having us take on a surprise ambush from spartans in the campaign.
It'd be different.
Memorable.
And distinguish the banished from the covies while amplifying the sense of the unsc being on the back foot.
Seems a solid gameplay choice.
We have the AI.

@lean pike maybe I've the wrong yt.
Hmm I dunno what the issue is those textures look off to me.

[warped yew]

A halo game where you fight humans would only make sense if your on the force they're trying to kill or they're insurrectionists

[sinful grotto]

Or they had sided with the banished. As some have done canonically already.
Regardless of opinion the precedent is set

[warped yew]

Yeah but it's such a weirdly introduced idea

Well probably never even get to fight them in the game because they'll book exclusive like a majority of Halo lore now

[lean pike]

i could get a disc copy and see if it behaves differently off disc perhaps

[civic sundial]

I said in the games, not in the books. The Halo games are about humanity fighting against aliens

The Banished being the ones that took down Cortana is not public knowledge in universe, nobody is thinking of joining them based on that. And Ilsa is the only Spartan within the Banished, who joined for reasons unrelated to Cortana's death, and Mickey's reasons in turning were specific to him due to Rookie dying at the hands of human rebels, he didn't sign up to fight humans

And just because there are humans within the Banished, that doesn't mean they're all used as soldiers, not to mention that it's canon that Brutes within the Banished have killed their human comrades for simply being human. Not sure why you think going bad due to fighting the Flood is exactly the same as a human joining the Banished

Multiplayer isn't showcasing human conflicts within the Halo universe, it's training sims

[warped yew]

Uhm halo 2 yo

[sinful grotto]

Halo games are about lots of things and just because we haven't done something doesn't not mean we can't. Hell had Halo 5 actually been about fighting chief people likely would have liked it more seeing how well the adelvertising went.
And some of the most memorable moments in halo have literally been fighting humans.
The insane CE marine and the NMPD officer in odst both 2 of their respective games most well remembered moments...

Who said it has to be public knowledge?
My example is literally the most likely humans to know that being spartans marooned on zeta where it went down. Literally as easy as their comms over hearing cortana and atriox because of pyre or the didact creating feedback in zeta systems.
Leads to an arguement in the spartan group that escalates in a face off with the banished or atriox and him offering them a place on "the side of freedom".

I said above ilsa is the only banished.
The reason isn't the point different characters have different reasons for their actions.

Mickey is just an example of spartans having their own reasons for their actions. And his unwillingness to follow the unsc does more to support my logic than yours.
Mickey didn't make his choices solely due to the rookie he was always an innie...because spartans are people and not all of them follow the unsc.
Like Scruggs.
Or soren they all have distinct motivations...

I never said that going mad in facing the flood was the same I said that a traumatic experience like being at the hands of the banished can also affect a person.
Ptsd and trauma exists.
Psychotic breaks are a thing that happens.
As are turn coats in war.

Multiplayer war games was shoehorned in years later yes.
My point still remains that every single halo game has depicted human on human conflict and the imagery is probably the most defining of the franchise.

As it stands I fail to see any solid logic as to why a surprise spartan squad encounter wouldn't serve as a solid addition to the gameplay experience.

[civic sundial]

You literally said this

This is not public knowledge to everyone in the galaxy

Jimmy in New York isn't going to go join the Banished because of something he does not know happened

[sinful grotto]

Yes I did. I responded to that already...
Did you read the last post where I make clear who would be likely to know that?

[civic sundial]

You listed a crazed marine in CE as an example of a human enemy. He's not your enemy, he's in shock

He's only shooting at you because he's scared. That's not the same as someone wanting to kill you for being in a group that opposes you

[sinful grotto]

Are you even reading what I've said. You only respond to cherry picked parts not the argument as a whole.
Like where did I suggest it's the same?
I clearly said that these exampleS of human attacks are memorable liked moments of gameplay.
I clearly make the point of characters having their own motivations above.
I never once mentioned

" someone wanting to kill you for being in a group that opposes you "

I just pointed to multiple examples in universe and in game of scenarios where humans attack humans.
And specifically outlined how spartans fighting the unsc is entirely plausible.
And that historically moments of human on human conflict in the games are noted as being memorable.
Idk dude feels like you just aren't engaging with my points at all and are fixated on the must shallow elements of the topic.

[median helm]

Another day, another series of getting banned while waiting to load into a match

[vale swallow]

we need halo kart racing game for sure

[sturdy kernel]

Forge masters already do this

[vale swallow]

forge is heavily restricted, like kindergarten for adults

[civic sundial]

Forge these days is close to being as good as dev tools

So not sure why you think it's "Kindergarten for adults"

[keen silo]

Forge mode in infinite is amazing. Especially comparing it to the older titles

[civic sundial]

Aye, like, looking at Halo 3, Forge there is so primitive compared to what we have now

[keen silo]

Some of the giant designs people managed to pull off in Halo 3 forge are wild

[onyx latch]

People would've liked it more

Oh, no, I was positively thrilled they didn't go with that disaster of a plot line. Supersoldier going rogue plots suck for a reason.

Some people don't like the cult classic "Soldier" from 1988, I'm one of them.

I was actually genuinely concerned that the final game's plot would follow the trailers and was pleasantly surprised when they did something that tied into 4 more effectively.

[sinful grotto]

I agree. But sentiment around the marketing seemed positive and waypoint posts often complained 343i lied about the story. So only an observation.
I think halo 5 was flawed but I liked the direction.

[tulip tusk]

kindergartens for adults are psych wards and prisons lol Infinite forge is better than that

[tulip tusk]

i thought that old Halo 5 plot was more about ONI being more actively evil than a soldier going rogue, that was just going to be their propaganda story not the real game/gameplay story. Id think the story would have been ONI covering up stuff and Chief evading capture and maybe revealing and hunting the truth 😏 . but i dont think i would have enjoyed playing such a story because i dont want to shoot UNSC npcs

even in custom campaigns in Infinite i cannot stand making marines on the other team its too painful to hurt them

[civic sundial]

They're also just not designed around the player fighting them

Like, sure the game allows it because of how the NPC system works but the marines have never been who you're meant to fight. Not to mention that in the other games, betraying them and making them turn on you is meant as punishment for the player. Sure it can be seen as a challenge to see how long you can last against them but it's still a punishment

[keen silo]

The marines may not be real, but the guilt I feel for accidentally running one over is very real

[zenith scarab]

Hey 343 can u plz fix the shot registration in infinite it’s too spongy Ty

[celest heron]

what's your usual ping?

[edgy forum]

What was this update from the game I saw when I got on my Xbox?

Oh they got Headhunter in Matchmaking today

[civic sundial]

Was about to ask the same question

Oh! Forgot about that coming to the game this month

[celest heron]

it's a stability update for xb1 in infinite.

[civic sundial]

Ah

[left cape]

Occasionally, players on PC may be unable to start a matchmaking search or join a Custom Game lobby due to the following error: “One or more members of your fireteam is on PC and has invalid Easy Anti-Cheat (EAC) authorization.”

Workaround: Close and relaunch Halo Infinite to clear the error and resume matchmaking. If playing in a fireteam with other players, the error may be cleared after the affected player leaves then rejoins the fireteam.

Man that workaround seems to have been deliberately written to be misleading.

You can also use it when playing by yourself, you just need to party up with any random friend for a split second.

[warped yew]

Like actually. I can't think of ways of making the forge better besides just adding new obj

[steep badge]

I just got a 106 GB update for infinite

what are they adding

that's the size of the entire game

[smoky forge]

they shifted all the 1s and 0s over by 1

[sturdy kernel]

Only 4 GB added

[steep badge]

so it's reinstalling the entire game??

[sturdy kernel]

No

[left cape]

Nope. Just you. Mine was ~2 gb.

[steep badge]

gotta be a bug then

cause it says "updating" and it's 106gb

this is gonna take like 2 hours

[keen silo]

You’re getting the extra special version of infinite, comes with a free multiplayer mode

[steep badge]

bro I've had infinite installed for months

[full warren]

This match making it literally feels like my game play do not matter

two gusy goes combined 3 kills 27 deaths

oh i forgot the guy who went 0/6 too, between the 3 of them its 3 kills and 33 deaths...

Double negative KDA, two of them

the worst 3 on the enermy team went 3/18, 15 deaths less... which would meant we would won if they just did as badly as enermy team

it literally is nothing to do with anyones performance other than whos got the worst team mates

ah yes another 5 man squad of absolutely potato quality noobs on capture the zone, literally unwinable if your teammates all 5 just runs in like mindly zombies

[sinful grotto]

Ya but dude that mix.male it interesting as a one off.
And the game is literally balanced for spartan vs spartan.
343i did a fine job with the bot ai they aren't competing but they try god love them.
The punishment is easily offset in the games presets as is.

[median helm]

I just went 26/15 and was with a team that combined for 10/billion

[full warren]

60% win rate last 25 games and now 40% win rate, this match making really on that 50% lol,

I wonder if 343 just hates that its dedicated players

Yeah F that, last game the last 4 players wen a combined 0 ish /40

3 people quit we lost the slayer 35/75 what a fair match making

[median helm]

I haven't won a match since the update and I've been dominant
I'm not even that good

[full warren]

why am i getting stuck with literally smooth brain people who can't aim or shoot and jsut walk around feeding kills

I have a KD of 2.78 and I won 1 game today out of 5....

[median helm]

Maybe it's to encourage partying up

[full warren]

I hate partying i only play solo

i have went from 53.7% win rate down to 52.9%

its literally pushing me back down to 50%, I lost a whole percent and I have nearly 5k games so I been lossing a f ton

This game is just bs for players who actually good at it

I wish they just ban me so I dont have to come back

[median helm]

Balancing a team out with a mix of good and bad players just sucks. I play video games to get away from the "everyone matters" office bs

Imagine only getting 1 kill on Smallhalla

[wooden briar]

Good news: it's a lot easier for you to make friends to play with as a stack than for an entire video game's matchmaking system to be overhauled just the way you like it.

[magic night]

There's also Ranked for people who want their team and opponents to be close in skill

[median helm]

Such a fun game

[keen silo]

Disagree. The entire multiplayer industry needs to be reworked so only I can win and only I can have fun

[warped yew]

😔

[swift iris]

It's been helping me well though how I got mine is something of a interesting case.

[smoky forge]

The best way to prevent quitters, team killers, non-objective players, and wildly disparate skill levels is to make your own party.

[median helm]

Always has been

[vast ridge]

does it take the skulls longer to score if you have more of them on Headhunter?

[cunning jungle]

Damn I forgot Headhunter was FFA

[vast ridge]

It feels really inconsistent on registering the skulls scoring. I have to sit in the circle and wait for them to score, and by then, someone is chasing me trying to kill me and they don't score even though ive been in the circle for at least a whole second.

Is it a contested type of thing that prevents it?

[full warren]

partying up with someone is not a solution to bad match making

I don't play multiplayer games to make friends, I am here to enjoy getting better and winning, right now it just me improving but not wining

[keen silo]

If I had a nickel…

[smoky forge]

It is the only action you can take to guarantee a reliable experience.
Matchmaking will always have variable quality, especially if you're in a low player population area and or time.

I get that it is another step to have to take, and can be annoying. But it does work. Plus having teammates you can actually communicate with drastically improves your chances of winning

[stoic canopy]

UUUGGGHH

343 has always had this issue with their FFA modes where they just don't understand that 8 people for non-party/Fiesta is too many

If you want 8 people FFA then the TTK needs to be super fast or maps need to be WAY, WAY bigger

[full warren]

yeah there is no one to party with that is good, in my time zone and play at the same time

you are asking for a unicorn.

Even if I did find people in my time zone and is good, trying to get people to play at the same time or even the same play list no chance

also halo need to make better ping system where there is a 1. danger, 2. enermy here, 3. question, 4, retreat. you need options instead of here here hrere

[smoky forge]

Have you actually tried finding people? You put a decent effort into venting your frustrations, which is fine, but it also looks like you've never even tried to find someone in #lfg-competitive

Ah I see a few posts in #lfg-social - but mostly from over a year ago. I get it. Matchmaking is frustrating. That's mostly why I only play customs and forge

[swift iris]

Xbox should still have a looking for players option for requests.

[median helm]

Does it not?

[full warren]

I added some players over the years but they either never on when I am on

or they just play other play lists, there is like 20 players my skill in the uk who plays social I meet them literally every game if I play quick play but only rarely i see people queing together because no one want to

I don't really want to queue when i can just play by myself. its so stupid I have to basicly abuse the system by queing with people and force the game to give me easy teams because if 8 high diamond and onyx players play squad you wont find a matching team

so you will win.

[smoky forge]

have you tried sending those people you play with regularly friend invites?

partying with a team, in a team based game, is not abusingn the system

[full warren]

I did once upon a time but we never online at the same time or the same play list

Halo is not a team game lol.

its jsut a bunch of people shooting at each other, league of legend is a team game because that actualyl require you to play together

, halo if you good you can 1v10 in a slayer but the only thing you can't do is objectives, thats why I deselect all objective games

[smoky forge]

If you are searching in a Team playlist, I don't know how else to tell you that it is a team game. FFA exists for not wanting to depend on team mates

best of luck with your matchings though

[full warren]

Well its a team game in that there are teams but it requires no team work to win otehr than get kilsl and be better

even ranked up to about low onyx you dont need teamwork you can do it by skill and shot

[vast ridge]

can someone please help me out here:

I keep getting a message that stops me from playing that says "One or more members of your fireteam is on PC and has invalid Easy Anti Cheat (EAC) authorization"

Is this now just some catch all if i've been misrepresentedly reported by a disgruntled player or something? This keeps happening since the new update. A restart fixes it, but why does this keep popping up?

Is there some form of time out session that is now active for Easy Anti Cheat? I am super confused

[smoky forge]

It is happening often in parties

[median helm]

I'm not even sure if whether or not a player plays objective is measurable. I suppose a "time in spawn" metric could be a thing

[smoky forge]

playing customs we had to disband the party and reform almost every game

[full warren]

how is this even an error, what is EAC false detecting, litearlly everyone on pc is getting this so there must be something that is false detecting,

[echo patio]

bro no one is talking about halo in the general rn

[rain beacon]

just started 2 and trying dual wield combos i think my favorite so far is plasma rifle + smg

btw can you only use the plasma pistol's secondary fire in dual wield mode cause im trying on its own and its not

[smoky forge]

that's why it is the general-chat and this is Halo-discussion ?

[vast ridge]

thank you

[full warren]

worst player in my team, does 12 daamage whole game, worst team on enermy team does 1.2k damange.... how

[tulip tusk]

Yea I hope the EAC bug is fixed soon it happens very frequently. But it could be a healthy thing it's like a timer reminding you to go to bed or close game

[median helm]

Every teams gotta have 1. Imagine a whole team of those guys - MM has to distribute those guys to teams. Too bad they can't just have server issues

Omg, does "there was a problem with the dedicated server" really mean "you are too good bad to match with anyone right now"?

[full warren]

I dont mind if the games were fair, but having 4/6 worst palyers in the lobby means you not going to win no matter how good you carry, why dont they distribute the noobs, 50/50 but nope there are games where the worst 4 players on my team does not do the same daamge as their worst player, jsut 1....

Like that is just blatantly bad match making

[median helm]

More egregious is being loaded into a game just seconds before it ends (usually with the other team about to win), because someone on the losing team quit, opening up a spot for you, who have been waiting 37 seconds to start a match

[crimson berry]

Can I please get a decent first freaking match. Snipers Only I got teammates who just kept dying and never got a single kill, had to leave it. Got fed up on Super Fiesta and left it.

[lusty wraith]

Did we ever see friendly Elite Majors in H2? Can’t seem to recall ever seeing them as allies

[warped yew]

Nope

Think we only ever got minors, spec ops, councilers, and zealots

And Rtas ofc

[lusty wraith]

Also no Honor Guards, maybe because red = bad generally?

[warped yew]

I wouldn't say so. Their silhouettes are easy to define from brutes which is why many halo enemies have distinct silhouettes

No I just think Bungie couldn't find any story revelance for them. Idk

[keen silo]

I mean, knowing Halo 2 there was probably some sort of limitation at the time tbh

[warped yew]

Yeah I mean look at how much was cut lmao

[analog salmon]

good marking is underrated imo

Infinite doesn't even let you mark more then one enemy at a time

you can mark someone, look across the map and mark another player, and the first mark will dissappear which will make your team mates think that player has been killed

since an enemy mark disappearing otherwise means the enemy has been killed

imo marking enemies is no different or less of a "skill" then calling out their poistion so there really shouldn't be limitations on how it works

they should probably address the fact you can mark a player to find if there's another enemy in that location tho

if you can only see 1 player and you mark them, you shouldn't then get a marker telling you there's 2+ players

and also yeah the game needs to let you choose the context of the mark. Infuriating when you try to mark a player and your game decides to ping a flag point that's in the way

Pinging an objective serves absolutely no purpose in ranked play since most people will just assume you're trying to ping an enemy. It would actually be beneficial if you could disable objective pinging completely.

[crimson berry]

Of course, when I think of updating drivers and waiting a week or two to see if anything happens, they release a new set. -_-' I just wanna make sure Halo runs properly before I update. Dx

[sinful grotto]

I want to apologise for my extreme levels of suck.
The osteoporosis has really made me far worse and I was never a pro to begin with.
I genuinely feel guilty watching peeps put out their back carrying me online but I can only try.

[frosty condor]

I do love me some headhunter but by golly is it sweaty

First two games was against Viper Skills, then Mint Blitz

[full warren]

whos viper skills lol

I only played with mint blitz once before in 4v4 quick play lol, I am on 200+ ping becaise I think I got put into aus servers

me and him got absolutely destroyed in slayers I think he only did marginally better considering he must be on local ping thats not much lol

but wow his game are even worse, the other two team mates just fed and left the game so it was a 2v4 basicly

[frosty condor]

pretty decent halo player

[full warren]

He stream? I watch all the pros but never heard of this guy, I follow pretty much most of the youtubers too

[frosty condor]

nah

[full warren]

which playlist has prism map? i hate it I need to deselect it in quick play

[dapper wind]

I play MCC on PC with KBM but can never get in on a Halo 3 Ranked game. Any advice?

[full warren]

500 PING.... game then dropped to 380.... still got 16/10 best in the game but WOW wtf are these servers

[frosty condor]

Gotta keep trying. Ranked may be a barren wasteland but I know H3 social is always active

Fellow Halo Infinite Firefight players, I have a question:

Is there a sidekick variant that shoots sniper rounds? I saw this tonight and was like (no audio btw)

[full warren]

yes, its on top of a cone

[frosty condor]

[full warren]

on that map, its on the other side of where this video is

[frosty condor]

Does it have infinite ammo

[full warren]

no

[civic sundial]

They combined the Flexfire Sniper with the Sidekick to make that, fun but not my favourite weapon

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/incredible-double-glasses-gif-5410995

Thank you both!

[full warren]

I think its only on heavies BTB

[civic sundial]

It's in Firefight on that map

[vast ridge]

for higher skilled play, some maps need to be removed from the HH playlist.

any map with large killboxes with multiple angles becomes a giant funnel of hella skulls to be gathered by one or two people. Either one of them having 10-15 skulls each after only a few minutes of a match is insane.

Live Fire and Forbidden have had this happen quite a lot in my experience

[glacial tartan]

What are you queuing / what ranks? (And make sure input filtering is off)

[sturdy kernel]

It's not as fast as you can imagine

343 also having other issues

[ruby knoll]

i mean halo is 343s total scope

[civic sundial]

And Microsoft are ultimately their corporate overlords. 343 can't do much if they don't think cheaters are a big enough problem

[dapper wind]

Halo 3 team slayer I’m rank 0 never played. But want to get into it. I didn’t know I could disable input filtering and does it allow crossplay?

[ruby knoll]

also, why announce they're going to look into cheats? might as well say "hey, change your cheats before we patch em out"

[glacial tartan]

Yes, but you’ll have a hard time finding games at rank 1 bc of how the rank searching works, need to find someone who is in the high 10s/mid 20s @dapper wind

[glacial tartan]

It depends on if its actually being worked on. Nobody cares if there is no communication if work is actually being done, but from a player perspective its felt the same so it has the appearance of being ignored. We'll find out as the days/weeks/months pass, if there are less and less cheaters than 343 can stay as silent as they want.

[civic sundial]

Aye, if it's something like an update for the game that's gonna be sizable, it makes sense to male announcements for that, but for people using cheats like aimbots, invincibility, etc, you don't want the cheaters to know you've got fixes to prevent those from working

[smoky forge]

anyone using cheats probably already assumes they're going to be "looking into it", that is the nature of the cheating arms race.
Saying nothing about it would be dissuading to the non-cheaters

[ruby knoll]

a fair point

it's a balancing act of when and when not to say something

[keen silo]

Didn’t 343 say something very similar on one of their anti-cheat posts some time ago?

[edgy forum]

That’s the first thing: Reddit. Nobody listens to Reddit these days

[zenith holly]

So I just finished a match in FF and got about 6,600 points after carrying my teammates and the game doesn't count the match afterwards and I don't get the points for my XP...

[shadow needle]

Hey, guys! I think I'm gonna start playing Halo Infinite again as MCCs feeling pretty limited in content - CGB only posts like 6 different game-types and matchmaking takes forever at times - and I'd love to have some people to jump on with! My GT is just DiskoDom, lol, feel free to add me!

[dapper wind]

Thanks for advice. Would be nice if they could set it up for people to get matched faster. Kinda sucks if you get in late that you never will get a game.

[warped yew]

Guys is there a new weapon coming to Halo Infinite 😞

[keen silo]

That would be interesting. I miss the SMG and Carbine

[signal ivy]

as mentioned before in the other chat, nothing has been announced

[full warren]

OK WTF I AM BANNED? after the game got stuck in the loading cutscene everyone left except me and I GOT A 10 misn ban??!?!?!?!

are you effing kidding me, they banned me for not quitting a game

[warped yew]

Damn

[full warren]

waiting in a game for 9 mins only for the game to end and then I get a 10 mins ban????

the game never started everyone quit I was the last and I got a ban must be 343's way of a joke

[civic sundial]

The what and the what?

[warped yew]

It doesn't 1 shot

Even if these aren't true

Why can't we get the amount of content halo 5 had after a year -<-

[ruby knoll]

who knows

[civic sundial]

So something we shouldn't know about, as that can be stuff that's either unfinished or cut

[warped yew]

It's a live service game so new guns should be developed anyway

👁 - 👁

[full warren]

LOL my ban says its for unsporting play.... yes not quitting out of a ever loading game is unsportmanship

[civic sundial]

Because plenty of things happened around when Infinite launched that meant that the game couldn't get the same level of support that Halo 5 got post launch

[warped yew]

Ok what about after launch

Management has obv changed since then :<

[full warren]

management changed in year 3

[warped yew]

Welp it is what it is

[full warren]

too late they see no money left in this title so moved on, its now basicly being held together just enough for the next game

[warped yew]

You think 343 is aware of why halo infinite was mediocre

Or do they blame us like alot of other AAA companies

[full warren]

They are only aware enough that it didn't make them money

So they atleast fired a bunch of people but I doubt they know why, since they will just blame the new guy

[warped yew]

There's so much content in the files to polish and bring up :<

[full warren]

yeah but they dont have the people

[warped yew]

Sad

[ruby knoll]

i can't believe number company invented cut content

[full warren]

They are probably having most just to keep the game running and fix all the bugs

[warped yew]

? Wdym

[ruby knoll]

content has never been cut before halo infinite dropped

[warped yew]

Ok

[ruby knoll]

sometimes stuff is cut for a number of reasons and nobody besides the devs will know why

[warped yew]

Atleast halo Infinite is playable on Xbox One now. I don't have Xbox One so idk how it affected them lmao

[warped yew]

Yeah stuff is cut always for a reason

[keen silo]

I think it was mostly framerate and graphics. i went from a series S to a series X and even that was a massive upgrade

[warped yew]

I mean yeah obviously it's a upgrade -<-

[keen silo]

lol, true

[full warren]

They need to stop supporting it on the old xbox

The game is limited by it.

I remember games which release needed the latest console.

[ruby mist]

hi

[warped yew]

Let's hope the next game is 👍

[ruby knoll]

needing to support the xbone, all the way down to the lowest end model, probably complicated things

[warped yew]

We need more vehicles, guns, and unique campaign missions

Like there's only 3 actual unique campaign missions in the game it's crazy

Like halo 2 has good level concepts even if the execution was lack luster at best

[ruby mist]

343 has 5 halos being worked on they have split resores so we will not get all we want

[warped yew]

"The Arbiter" A mission with stealth as it's gimmick that later transitions into an aerial sequence with one of the best halo music pieces ever

"Quaratine Zone" a 4 way battle between Humans, Covenant, Flood and the Forerunners with the addition of crazy vehicular combat

[smoky forge]

Infinite is in the Custom Made Content phase. People have been making some amazing mini campaigns in forge

[warped yew]

We need more vehicle based missions in the next campaign 😤

[warped yew]

Alot of them are better and fun to play then the actual campaign missions

[shadow needle]

5 Halos in development?! Thought it was only the CE re-make, 7, and supporting Infinite, lol

[warped yew]

Operation Wall Climber and Zero Point are some of the best custom campaign missions ever

Zero Point has this crazy gimmick of going faster when ur in the air and Operation Wall Climber is good ol classic big vehicle battle :>

[ruby mist]

nope there are more that have not be reveld to use two have thouh

[warped yew]

I thought the Remake was a rumor

[ruby mist]

there is a flood one to

[shadow needle]

Damn, thats awesome if its true! But also bad in a way because the MCC has AIDs rn and Infinite still isn't completely up to par, I'd say, lmao

[warped yew]

Considering how Infinite went. They better make 1 game at a time -<-

[vale swallow]

The only characters alive halo fans care about IMO

• master chief
• catherine halsey (not really)
• arbiter
• lasky (palmer maybe)
• buck
• Atriox (the 3rd brute we're going to fight)
  Anyone else? The list seems pretty thin

[shadow needle]

The Weapon!

[warped yew]

No one likes Palmer bruh. She was disrespectful to Chief and she doesn't even do anything in any of the campaigns

[shadow needle]

Yeah, honeslty!

[vale swallow]

Yea delete her, we'll just make Cortana 3.0

[shadow needle]

I'm all for more Halo games, but 343 seems completely incapable of doing two at this point

[keen silo]

Oh yeah. Spartan Palmer. Forgot about her

[warped yew]

Cortana should've stayed dead in halo 4. It would've made it that much more impactful

[signal ivy]

Lasky makes a joke about Chief: everyone laughs. Palmer makes a joke about Chief: 😠

[shadow needle]

Yeah! I completely hated the promethean arc too anyways

[vale swallow]

Comparing Halo to like Star Wars, I feel there's not a lot of characters I care about...

[warped yew]

When? I haven't played Halo 4 in a while

[signal ivy]

when what

when lasky made a joke?

[vale swallow]

Palmer really disrespected chief, it still hurts me to this day. No cap.

[signal ivy]

because of one joke?

[vale swallow]

Yes, I'm b_tt hurt.

[warped yew]

Yes

Ok 1. You do not address your higher ranking like that. That's really disrespectful

[vale swallow]

In a game of mostly "one liners", Palmer's one joke does carry a lot of weight actually.

[signal ivy]

when lasky said to chief "I don't suppose you're any good at clearing LZs?"

people blow that little Palmer joke way out of proportion

like WAY out

[warped yew]

It's not even a joke really

[smoky forge]

I am not a huge fan of all of the characters from H4 and H5, but I think completely ignoring them in Infinite was a mistake. It would have given the mission of "rescuing random groups of marines" way more weight if those groups had key NPCs from the previous games, and we brought them back to a central base to defend.

I get that the whole story was focusing in on Civpilot and nutana and chief, but having the only other NPCs we find be dead / dying no-name spartans fell kinda flat

[signal ivy]

that's 100% a joke

that's why chief follows up with "on occasion"

he knew it was a joke and replied with what he did

[vale swallow]

It's like an Owen Wilson type joke, not that serious. Why did they blow that joke out of proportion? maybe for memes I guess

[warped yew]

I'll be honest with you. Lasky's is just more professional. I just hate Palmer because she actually is just a character in cut scenes who doesn't do anything

I can put away her joke if she actually did something during the campaigns

[civic sundial]

There's plenty of alive characters outside of them people care about, Spark, Rion Forge, Esparza, Cutter, Red Team, Grey Team, Half Jaw. I could go on. Claiming that Halo fans only care about Chief and a few others is disingenuous

[signal ivy]

idk if professional is the right word. He probably violated tons of UNSC protocols by providing the means for Chief to escape Infinity

[vale swallow]

Esparza is the only name that rings a bell 😭

[civic sundial]

Have you played Halo Wars?

Or read any novels?

[swift iris]

Yeah. I swear it's not really a big deal. Though they haven't read the books on worse cases.

[civic sundial]

Because many of the characters I listed appear in those

[vale swallow]

Nope nope, I'm a casual.

[civic sundial]

I know casuals that care about Cutter because they played Halo Wars

[swift iris]

Wouldn't surprise me that given his track record any attempts of creating an LZ turns into a ruined parking lot of debris and bodies.

[keen silo]

Do people not care for Professor Anders? I'm rather fond of her, considering shes another science character that isnt directly connected to Halsey or ONI

[smoky forge]

If protocols tell you to go against the dude who repeatedly saved the galaxy, I'm going to say violate protocols.

[swift iris]

They do. It's just hard to separate those who are more vocal because only the shooters matter to them.

[signal ivy]

oh I agree

[civic sundial]

Also, to this, Star Wars has been around for much longer than Halo, it's had multiple film trilogies, shows, comics, books and games in that time. That's allowed it to not only be a cultural juggernaut, but have way more characters for people to care about, even if it's someone like the guy carrying an ice cream maker on Bespin or one of the many Droids

[civic sundial]

I think she's cool and I need to know what's happening with her since it's been quite some time since she was seen in any media

[warped yew]

Well I just said my main gripe with Palmer. If she does come back, I hope she actually does something in the missions instead of being only in cut scenes

[civic sundial]

Plus, not knowing where Installation 09 is... Don't want to just lose a Halo

[keen silo]

Was she not last seen on Zeta Halo? Or was that ring seperate from the one in Infinite. I always asumed they were the same

[warped yew]

Is this game franchise even Halo is the real question

[civic sundial]

Lasky doesn't do anything in gameplay. You know that right? Like, he's primarily in cutscenes

[warped yew]

Yeah but he didn't do anything. He served as actual exposition and someone to talk to when Chief was feeling down

[signal ivy]

...

[warped yew]

Palmer actually doesn't do anything

And she's a spartan for crying out loud

[civic sundial]

Nope, the ring she's on is the second Alpha Halo replacement

[signal ivy]

yeah hand to hand fighting a Promethean and helping Chief escape isn't doing anything

[warped yew]

Like people like Miranda, Keyes, and Lasky. They're commanders so they're doing what they need to anyway

[warped yew]

When did that ever happen in the games

[signal ivy]

Spartan Ops

[warped yew]

Spartans Ops. Yeah when Halo tried to copy COD

[keen silo]

Huh. Interesting. Thank you!

[civic sundial]

We see Palmer not attempt to arrest Chief when Del Rio orders her to. Like she visibly reacted to Del Rio ordering it but didn't do it

[signal ivy]

....what

[warped yew]

Halo 4 is a copy of COD and you can see it

[civic sundial]

Spartan Ops is Halo copying COD? I don't remember COD having weekly missions released for it ever

[signal ivy]

alright I'm done lol

[swift iris]

Remind me to give you an ice pack or a beer later.

[civic sundial]

Don't blame you Aegis, I am just as confused

Can you make that two ice packs?

[warped yew]

-<- yall need to know the context of the COD game that released near Halo 4

[swift iris]

Done.

[civic sundial]

Black Ops?

[warped yew]

Yes

[civic sundial]

Black Ops didn't get weekly missions added

[signal ivy]

ok so what does that have to do with the conversation about Lasky fighting a Promethean?

or are you just moving the goalposts?

[warped yew]

Idk it somehow moved to Spartan Ops 💀

[civic sundial]

Like, I have played Black Ops, I would remember if it had a mode akin to Spartan Ops

[signal ivy]

you asked me when that happened

I told you

[coarse dagger]

It's classic goal post moving

[signal ivy]

then you started talking about Call of Duty 💀

[warped yew]

I'm sorry guys. Remember I don't hate any of yall. I'm sure yall are good people behind my screen

Do yall even like Spartan Ops

[signal ivy]

I do, yes

[ruby mist]

not realy

[warped yew]

I need reasons so I can better understand the other side

[civic sundial]

I like the concept but the execution is flawed

[keen silo]

I liked playing through Spartan ops. never finished it though, kinda gets boring on your own

[warped yew]

How was the execution and how could it be done better

[swift iris]

I'm suddenly reminded of Crisis City Classic and the trick they did there.

[civic sundial]

If it wasn't so late for me, I'd pull up my notes so I could explain what I mean

[signal ivy]

I mean sure, some of the mission locations are repeated too many times, but I liked the ongoing story and lore it provided

[smoky forge]

BLOPs 1 and Reach being out at the same time was wild.
Both games let you earn currency by playing (and ONLY playing) and use that to unlock stuff in (kinda) whatever order you wanted.
The golden age.

[coarse dagger]

Spops was mad fun when it launched, especially the second half. You just needed to be stacked with friends or have luck with your blueberry

[signal ivy]

seeing Requiem being thrown into a star or the Infinity smashing through a covenant cruiser was sick

[warped yew]

Weren't there cut scenes or something

[signal ivy]

yes

[warped yew]

Yall forgetting that one time when you drove Unto a lich

[coarse dagger]

Gravity on the last mission was cool, I remember David Ellis talking about that

[signal ivy]

it was very interesting to see humans try to figure out forerunner tech

[civic sundial]

Oh, the second half was definitely better, especially with the environmental design, loved the Harvester location

[ruby mist]

yes for 3 2 and ce

[civic sundial]

Which like, can we get the Harvester back at some point? I miss that big thing

[warped yew]

Ok cuz because I believe most of the halo community hates Spartan Ops from all the YT videos I've seen, Twitter post, and discord servers :<

[keen silo]

I feel like that’s just leftover hate from Halo 4 in general tbh

[warped yew]

Halo 4 was decent. It just got further ruined when halo 5 came and ruined all it's setup

[signal ivy]

I also believe people just regurgitate halotubers negative views

[ruby mist]

they have a problem that any more legs then 4 it would crash

[civic sundial]

I feel like that one Buzz Lightyear meme sums up allot of people in the community

[warped yew]

Honestly the only halo 4 mission that actually felt like halo was Infinity

[civic sundial]

We never saw it move in Halo 4

So not sure why you think it would crash the game if it moved

[smoky forge]

One of the Halo 3 modders is adding it into a H3 remake of the Halo CE custom map Extinction, currently. Like within the last week

[civic sundial]

Ah, that's due to how stuff works in Halo 3

[warped yew]

Halo 3 modders also made the Gravemind fight able.

That's insane 😳

[ruby mist]

yes that is right any thing above 4 would ending up in a crash

[civic sundial]

I believe the Scarab is considered a giant within the code so they likely used that to make a functional Harvester

[warped yew]

Petition for Scarabs to come back in the next game

[civic sundial]

That's in Halo 3, not Halo 4

[smoky forge]

probably, haven't dug into modding anything past 2.
But it is super cool seeing it come to life in H3 anyways

[civic sundial]

And if the Harvester was to appear in a new game, I imagine 343 would want to invest in making sure it can move properly

[swift iris]

That's few and far between at this point. I've seen a ton of positive ones from those who were once working at the time. Though as mentioned before the negative outweigh the positive and it's tricky finding proper feedback.

[warped yew]

Would be cool if it was a boss

[civic sundial]

It doesn't help when much of the negative feedback is less feedback and more just people yelling they hate it for nonsensical reasons like "Why new company not old one"

[warped yew]

Halo infinite should've had more vehicle bosses tbh

[civic sundial]

I wouldn't have minded a Banshee boss

Like maybe a HVT that's in a Banshee

I know we got one in a Wraith

[warped yew]

Nah make it a unique vehicle because it just feels like a normal Banshee at the end of the day :((

[swift iris]

Yeah. I've seen far worse cases on other franchises though I'd rather not discuss it much further here.

[warped yew]

Putting bosses in regular vehicles isn't really good if you just fight those vehicles alot. It really doesn't make the experience that much better ._.

[civic sundial]

I delve into Star Wars sometimes, trust me, I have seen stuff

[smoky forge]

Making unique vehicles takes a long time. Modifying some stats or a texture on a vehicle is far quicker

[warped yew]

Yes. Make a Banshee variant is what I mean

[smoky forge]

I for one, and super glad we finally got Choppers back

[warped yew]

Like change it colors, make it faster and boom

You got a unique boss fight

[swift iris]

Reminder to add painkillers to your ice pack.

[civic sundial]

So like the Banshee variants in Halo 5, which sometimes were used for Warzone bosses

[warped yew]

Yes but don't make them super spongey

[civic sundial]

Can they also come with a scythe that's also a gun?

[swift iris]

Don't. I'd rather not open THAT Pandora's Box of headaches.

[tulip tusk]

palmer reminded us we can still destroy the enemy core 5 million times she is very patient

[vast ridge]

whats a good playlist set up to grind out the ranks to Hero?

What is your preferred mix or single game mode?

Looking for a mix of efficiency without the total monotony of only playing one thing all the time

[dawn ginkgo]

Is anyone else receiving crashes on MCC right when you push the start button on the menu.

[stoic canopy]

Just play the game.

You've got a few years 'till the next Halo so you've got time.

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[stoic canopy]

Is Halo not working for anyone else right now?

Mine just keeps sitting Infinitely loading the online stuff instead of getting anywhere.

[warped yew]

I just got kicked out of forge

[onyx latch]

Firefight is problably the easiest. The best... Eh?

I average like 5K xp a Firefight game so

[warped yew]

Yeah definitely Firefight

If you get your hands on that gungoose on that Sabre map. Oh get ready to farm xp >:]

Your basically guaranteed to be 1st on the leaderboard

[onyx latch]

Assuming you still stay in the hill

The hill's like 50%+ of the score

[glacial tartan]

The answer for grinding out ranks it to play things you enjoy. Otherwise you'll quit and wont finish.

Passed a lot of people who got burnt out 😄 The extra few %s of efficiency other gametypes may have isnt worth it if you put the game down!

[zenith holly]

Speaking of the grind, I just reached LT colonel grade 3 and still on my way to hero

[azure lily]

Say what you want about Halo Infinite but the soundtrack is amazing

literally listening to ambience from it rn as im doing summer work

[livid fable]

Thatttttts why i always get mvp

[tranquil mirage]

Are the elevators still bugged in MCC for Halo Reach?

[civic sundial]

You mean where it plays the player character's falling animation when they're moving? Last I checked that still happens

[dire temple]

I would say a rotation of husky raid, firefight and BTB. It keeps things fresh while also playing game modes with the potential for high xp

[hoary palm]

Heyy guys, gals and non-binary pals 😄 Anyone know how to unlock the armor effects and firefight voices for Halo Reach on MCC?

I would really appreciate the assistance. Thank you so much in advance 😄

[civic sundial]

They're unlocked via the catalog option in the options menu, specifically series 1. This also includes all of 360 Reach's armour too

[hoary palm]

It's not p2w bs right?

[civic sundial]

MCC has never had any pay to win element

[hoary palm]

Thank god

Also, thank you. I was looking in challenges not catalogue.

[civic sundial]

Like, the only things you pay for are the games to play

[hoary palm]

Do I need to play PvP at all to unlock the voices or armor effects?

[civic sundial]

There's also some additional Reach pieces in series 5 and series 8

[civic sundial]

You can play campaign and firefight

[hoary palm]

That's a huge relief! I despise PvP. Lol. Thank you 😄

[civic sundial]

No worries

There's a whole set of PvE challenges that refresh every week, I recommend checking out that and attempting to complete the ones that reward points

[hoary palm]

I'm currently working on them now. Currently in a match of firefight.

I just really want my incliment weather armor effect. I never had it before.

Disappointing that you don't start a firefight match with the Grunt birthday skull 😔

[hoary palm]

Is firefight classic the mode where you play until you lose all of your lives?

[glacial tartan]

They will each have a description (but yeah, the others are just for fun)

[hoary palm]

I forgot to read before hand. Been years since I played Halo Reach firefight.

My friend wanted to finally give the campaigns a try so I figured why not play some firefight like old times.

[broken belfry]

Struggling to find games in ranked tactical, is it just my connection, or is no one playing?

[hoary palm]

Maybe a dead playlist?

[keen silo]

It’s also the middle of a work day and school day on the US side. With most of the playerbase being American, that’s probably why

[dapper wind]

Is there a optimal FPS setting for Halo 2 and 3 on MCC? Some old shooters like Quake having a certain frame rate affects the connection to the server.

[glacial tartan]

Optimal is in the eye of the beholder. There used to be bugs causing the behavior you mentioned but I think they’ve all been squashed over the years.

So, whatever your system can handle, do it!

[dapper wind]

Thanks I’ll just cap 10 FPS over my refresh then and should be golden

[hoary palm]

So far I have survived 97 minutes in my firefight

Not too bad for not playing in years

Heroic difficulty

[spare finch]

why is ranked so easy to grind career rank with

[hoary palm]

From what I'm reading it could take weeks to unlock things you want because you have to wait for daily and weekly challenges to reset

O O F

[celest heron]

you get a hundred sp for each game if you mean infinite.

[civic sundial]

They're playing MCC

[spare finch]

I’m playing infinite

[keen silo]

Halo infinite? In this economy???

[civic sundial]

Meanwhile, me playing Halo 2 on Legends;

[hoary palm]

Better than Halo 4, 5 and Infinite combined

[civic sundial]

I disagree, there are aspects of Halo 2 that are great, such as the story, but the gameplay and level design in 2 are definitely not the best due to the lack of time it had to be play tested and properly balanced

[hoary palm]

Must have access to daddy's credit card 🤣

[civic sundial]

4, 5 and Infinite are much more balanced games in comparison

[hoary palm]

Too bad 343 sucks as a company

[civic sundial]

Ah, you're pulling that card out, how very original

[hoary palm]

Ok sure. Whatever you say. Enjoy your garbage 🤣

[keen silo]

Not to mention the countless bugs still present. I’ve had many speedruns ruined by enemies not spawning or spawning inside the map itself

[spare finch]

Sniper + rockets in btb + ranked = destruction

[civic sundial]

Mass destruction?

[spare finch]

Yep

Ranked is really good for getting better at the game

[sullen kiln]

For server moderation concerns, please send a direct message to @upbeat plover.

[civic sundial]

And lol, MCC just crashed on my while I was looking away, guess that's a sign to wait before continuing Metropolis

[civic sundial]

Aye, not to mention that you're gonna be going up against people around your skill level (Most the time). I should really play some ranked soon since I need to get the achievement for placements

[keen silo]

It’d be nice if they awarded SP depending on your rank at the end of every season. I’d be much more willing to assemble a team and play if that were the case

[spare finch]

Got a 24 kill 0 death round

[keen silo]

My reckless self could never get that good of a K-D in any round ever

[ruby lake]

i have the worst aim out of everyone here

[keen silo]

What’re you averaging end of match usually?

[spare finch]

I’ve had the campaign since it march 2022

MP is free

[finite tundra]

I once went like 50-1 and the one time I died was I feel off the map

[finite tundra]

Yea it helped me actually get into halo to start playing given I hadn’t played in forever and didn’t own MCC

[keen silo]

I think they got banned, kicked, or left

[civic sundial]

They're not showing up as sharing a server with me anymore

[spare finch]

Prob banned, they were being rude earlier

[spare finch]

Oh, thought that was continuing the bullying stream

Or whatever the term is

Cyberbullying line? Maybe that’s the term

Anyway

[warped yew]

Guys we all know the best thing about the halo sandbox is that every gun has its uses, weaknesses, strengths, and niches

[dapper wind]

I like Halo 4

Not very crazy about where halo 5 went tho

[warped yew]

Wait I just forgot where I was going with this

[keen silo]

Me when I capture the enemy flag

[warped yew]

I'm sorry about to be really rude

But those kinds of people who just forget what their playing frustrate me so much

It's really why I just stick with fiesta, and slayer

[smoky forge]

you can avoid random teammates that don't play the objective by inviting other players into your fireteam before searching for a team objective game

[spare finch]

Me getting random teammates that aren’t good at being teammates but are good at dying:

[stoic canopy]

Has Infinite been crashing during matchmaking for anyone else today?

[spare finch]

No but I’ve had bad matches with bad teammates (they only die a lot), forcing me to look bad at the game despite being skilled… Infinite is wild

[spare finch]

Scorpion tail is too OP, change my mind

Just replace it with a scorpion and everyone’s fine

Just my opinion though, I mean no negativity

[warped yew]

👍

Also I deleted a message btw

[spare finch]

Ik

I don’t see it as an easter egg but a one-off weapon capable of destroying the enemy team

[warped yew]

Oh i thought we were talking about the campaign cuz that's where the sandbox shines best

[full warren]

lol a full team on squad of hero rank players

[warped yew]

But they had to bring back rocket flood in form of the rocket skimmers

[full warren]

they still lost,

[spare finch]

Campaign is fine, it can stsy

[spare finch]

Literally what btb feels like, there is no peace

[warped yew]

Rocket skimmers and Rocket flood are one of the type of enemies you have to design a environment around otherwise they aren't fair

[spare finch]

Peace was never an option

[full warren]

well an they were maybe hacking twice we have their flag

the game start lagging for our whole team., both times we were about to score their flag

But guess what they run in and kill us jsut fine while we are lagging out rubber banding around. but in the end they still got beat lol

[spare finch]

Rockets + hallway = everyone is dead

[spare finch]

I’ve seen a hero rank teleport while sliding

[warped yew]

The hallway could be minimized just by having objects to hide behind lol

[spare finch]

Cheaters just can’t hide lmao

[warped yew]

A certain mod did this which was Halo CE Rebalanced and it made Rocket Flood less stupid to fight and more fun to fight

[spare finch]

And then they slid faster than anyone can slide

[warped yew]

If skimmers come back then they should be able to fly around like drones

[full warren]

those 5 hero guys had a total of 65k games played total lol

They play alot lol

[full warren]

as long they not hitting some crazy kerb slide then its hacking but they could also be hitting a kerbslide, however if tehy teleporting then probably not

[crimson berry]

First match in forever I had unstable packet loss and it tossed me back out.

[spare finch]

Nope, not a curbslide

They crouched without sprinting nor jumping

[spare finch]

Teleported forward and gained a massive speed boost

Entered a slide without sprinting, so they’re cheating

[crimson berry]

Nvm it could have kept me out of that match. Can I stop getting awful matches please?

[full warren]

it is possible to enter a kerb slide without actually be in a sprint, you jsut need to hit sprint button 0.5s before you kerb slide,

[spare finch]

Sprint, jump, crouch

[neon gate]

why am I getting mvp on games im def not mvp in

[crimson berry]

Cuz you're the MVP.

[frosty condor]

[umbral mulch]

still love the crap out of CE but the needler explosions had a certain saz only the older game had due to how rendering worked

a detail the remaster fails to produce entirely, fix it, please

where instead of a puff of smoke, it's supposed to be a diamond shaped pulse of energy, touch of light emission corona

fix it

https://tenor.com/view/fix-futurama-help-fry-fixit-gif-4525230

[civic sundial]

At this point, they're not going to be changing visuals in the remastered graphics unless it's to fix something that's actually broken. If they were, they'd have done that back in 2014 when MCC first released

[umbral mulch]

i guess to have legacy you need legs

[civic sundial]

Ok...

[regal hull]

Is there an XP boost for challenges on weekends? This weekend I was playing and noticed the 2nd “play any match” challenge (which usually provides 500xp) provided 2,000

With an XP boost, it provided 4,000 XP.

[frosty condor]

https://x.com/HaloSupport/status/1823859339465253158?t=WBtr11BGik_yPHkyRnvlOA&s=19

Halo Support (@HaloSupport) on X

To thank players for their patience during recent server issues, the #HaloInfinite team will be increasing the Daily XP reward this weekend. Between August 16-20, the second Daily Challenge will reward 2000 XP (up from 500 XP). Stay tuned here as we'll announce when this is live.

Twitter · Aug 14, 2024, 11:08 PM

[tulip tusk]

i do really enjoy the H1 Needler 🥰

it has a very long tracking range as well you dont need a red reticle...it can surprise people

there have been times i target someone duck in cover, then they emerge and thats when the needles hit and attach lol bc they move slowly but long track

[umbral mulch]

awesome weapon

[warped yew]

Every weapon that first started in CE was the best version in CE

[median helm]

Flamethrower on Halo PC was fun

[umbral mulch]

i feel like CE was the gold standard

reach is worth the play, but it feels less like a open world

where CE mixed alot of open and closed spaces

tight corridors ect with tons of lil visuals and details

[median helm]

Which makes sense when you realize it started off as an RTS project and vehicle gameplay came before the first person shooter aspect.

Mounting up and going on a warthog run is like the essential Halo experience.

[sinful grotto]

If they have moment from a geometry drop they can slide. Sprint and jump isn't a requisite just the easiest and most consistent

[umbral mulch]

you hit ice and you slide around

[pale locust]

ISTG FIX UR DAMN GAME

halo infinite is extremely broken

[winter light]

A Very Special Tribute, For A Very Special Game.

This is a labor of love, this franchise has brought me much Joy over 2 decades.

Hopefully my Tribute, can bring you a slice of that joy
.
It's 3:43 long for a good reason, Watch till the end. It will be worth it.

https://youtu.be/K6ywTDa7K-U?si=ArytSjyh1IHZmmZ0

[coarse dagger]

@winter light drop that into #1076327824924872755 - it will embed there

[winter light]

Yes Sir. 🫡
Thank you wasn't shmure where it should go.

[civic sundial]

Has the warthog at the start of Metropolis always spawned in with some damage?

[warped yew]

No

I don't think so unless you played Outskirts before the mission

[civic sundial]

Ah, that would explain it. Never heard of that before though

[keen silo]

It makes sense, like weapons usually carrying over between missions if played consecutively.

[civic sundial]

Well, in other news, I am now on The Arbiter in my Halo 2 legendary run

Thankfully ammo is less of an issue to manage compared to RE4make on the hardest difficulty

[keen silo]

Good luck!! The fact you’ve made it that far as is blows my mind. Halo 2 Legendary Completion is a goal my brain doesn’t even comprehend

[civic sundial]

The secret is trying to overcome emotional trauma, boredom and having no luck with finding a job

[keen silo]

RIP.
That’s rough. The job search pain is real. Hang in there Chief.

[unborn stirrup]

is it ok to use reshade on master chief collection campaign only if not in anti cheat mode

or do i have to be in anti cheat disabled even if im on campaign, does that make sense?

[tribal nebula]

how did Halo go from peak online gaming to where it is now? It was a generational franchise, where did we go wrong? Or did it live long enough to become the villain?

[high raft]

Things change, that's just how it works. CoD for example didn't use to be so popular back then, now it is. No need to overthink it, there won't come anything out of it anyways.

[median helm]

It was bombastically fun. Cartoonishly violent. It became a little too CoD like, maybe?

[smoky forge]

Things change indeed. but CoD has been pretty popular for most of its existence

Even at the peak of Halo, we still played a lot of MW1, W@W, MW2, and BLOPS1

[high raft]

In its early days absolutely not. It only started to become popular with Modern Warfare II. Before that it wasn't even remotely comparable to Halo and the like, now the opposite is the case.

[smoky forge]

In the early days, gaming itself wasn't nearly as popular

for games at the time, the first CoDs were "popular". There just wasn't that many people playing compared to later on

MW is where it went turbo, for sure though.
Halo is an arena shooter with a higher TTK, limited weapon selection, and emphasis on map / weapon control
CoD has a lower ttk, tons of weapon variations, and put more of a focus on trying to get killstreaks
Arena shooters in general have fallen out of favor, similar to how RTS games gave way to MOBAs

[warped yew]

Well people obv most people started with the first couple of games. Those games were made by people who for the most part, loved what the game they were making.

Oppose to 343 and I'm not dissing them.
They are just a company made by Microsoft to milk whatever potential money Halo has left to make.

Alot of the community stays with this game because of cope. The amount of time it took to get this game fully content complete is abysmal. When that content finally came out, people were happy but for me. Why are we rejoicing over the fact it took infection 4 seasons to get into the game. Why did it take so long to a get a proper XP system.

It all boils down to how bad this game was managed and the horrible decisions Microsoft made with this game

[signal ivy]

Those games were made by people who for the most part, loved what the game they were making.

Oppose to 343 and I'm not dissing them.
They are just a company made by Microsoft to milk whatever potential money Halo has left to make.
So you're saying that the people at 343 don't love the games that they make?

that's a pretty crazy blanket statement to throw on developers like that

[warped yew]

No I'm saying that 343 was made to just by Microsoft

Microsoft has more control over the company where as Bungie just had a contract and deadlines

And like to be honest. If the entirety of the studio loves the game they're making. It's probably gonna be really good

[signal ivy]

so why didn't you say that 343 loves the games that they make, you chose to use "as opposed to 343"

[warped yew]

I mean did they hire halo fans

[signal ivy]

yes

[warped yew]

So why did halo 4 end up the way it was

[signal ivy]

could you elaborate on "the way it was"?

because I think it's fantastic

it's my favorite in the franchise

[sinful grotto]

Complacency. A lack of understanding why it was peak and a move to chase contemporary design rather than iterate and lead on the social platform aspect of the game imo

[smoky forge]

The whole of the gaming industry has shifted a lot since the early 2000s. It has become a huge industry with a lot more money being invested into it compared to "back then", with expectations of continued growth.
Devs doing the coding are almost certainly still passionate about games. Artists making models, textures, and animations surely still love what they're doing.

What devs are allowed to do, how much creative freedom they have, how much input they have individually almost certainly has gone down compared to when it was 5 guys programming doom by themselves.

[warped yew]

The enemies were a downgrade from previous titles. The story was forced. The final boss being a quick time event is crazy. The fact that u run out of ammo so quick.

[signal ivy]

a lot of stuff in Halo 4 was building off what bungie started in Reach with loadouts

I don't agree with most of what you said.

[warped yew]

The quick time event?

[crystal iron]

Honestly I believe more people would have liked Halo 4 if it wasnt for the art style change, the campaign was decent and the MP was enjoyable to an extent. A lot of people were left disappointed in general after Bungie left.

[warped yew]

Campaign was decent but it alienated alot of fans

[signal ivy]

I understood why it was a quick time event. There was no feesable way for you to 1v1 the didact in any sort of firefight

[warped yew]

Mantis segment is one of the best segments fight me

[warped yew]

Sounds like lack of creativity

[signal ivy]

Chief would have been crushed like a toy

[warped yew]

Story wise yes. Gameplay wise nah

[smoky forge]

Eh. For everything not invasion, loadouts were almost exclusively choosing your armor ability. H4 changed the core of halo MP by adopting a CoD style loadout system and CoD style killstreak reward system. That's fine for people who liked it, but it WAS the main reason I stopped playing it

[warped yew]

Gameplay has never aligned with the lore. Why can't Spartans handle the recoil of an SMG for starters

Imagine the recoil for the marines then lmao

[crystal iron]

I think Bungie adding loadouts into Reach was one of the worst things they could've done to its MP... it took to much away from the power struggle and granted using one loadout over another due to it being "Meta"

[warped yew]

Like Cortana could've prevented you from being grabbed by the didact's telepathic powers for starters

[smoky forge]

gameplay >>>> realism. Halo has never made sense if it was "realistic". Rule of cool rules. Good gameplay prevails.

[warped yew]

Halo should always start everybody on the same terms

That's the golden rule of Halo

[smoky forge]

Infinite's equipment system is the really good. I still like H3s more, but Infinite's is #2

[warped yew]

I wish the campaign enemies made use of equipment

Like a skirmisher using a grapple would've been so cool

Chad equipment is when you have to save your equipment for different encounters because it's limited

Adds a little resource management in the mix

[signal ivy]

that's literally what happened lol

[crystal iron]

Might be a bold take, but Infinite in my opinion is one of the most refined Halo's gameplay wise. I feel like if H3 released today it would be very similar to Infinite

[signal ivy]

she stopped Chief being held by didact

[warped yew]

I meant for a bossfight

[signal ivy]

and then what, dude was wearing forerunner armor

[warped yew]

Ok?

Our bullet ammo can defeat promethean knights

[sinful grotto]

Halo 4 does share reach design traits but the bigger issue was how it moved away from its own philosophy to a contemporary interpretation of halo.
The early alpha footage and design docs before the restructure of the halo 4 project direction in the sandbox. Plus the heavy pressure the upped fidelity had on budget Impacted the ai and sandbox big time.
Like the game pushes hardware regardless on anyones opinion it was the 360 at its limits lighting and fidelity was incredible

[warped yew]

I remember when the elites had tongues lmao

In the halo 4 concept models btw

[signal ivy]

oh I agree, Halo 4 on 360 was pure wizardry

easily one of if not the best looking game on the console

[warped yew]

Halo 5 looked really good and then we had Infinite

[smoky forge]

It only cost dropped weapons despawning after what felt like 30 seconds... in a campaign where the enemies could be quite spongey and ammo was often an issue (IMO anyways)

[hollow ingot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1231740161717567508/1235222485667024986/h5modeldetected.gif

[warped yew]

I know and that's gonna be the only time I mentioned halo 5 in a long time

How did we go from 4 to 5

[smoky forge]

Anyways, the gaming industry has changed. there are FAR MORE games available now than the x360 era. So many quality games in their own niche, with large stable populations, many free to play.
Competing at all is hard, even for famous franchises.
Infinite had interest on launch but didn't have the means to retain players for very long. IMO you really only get one shot to latch onto players, and they missed that shot this time.

[warped yew]

Yknow what they say. You have to nail the first impression always

Also how is Infinite for Xbox One users rn?

Also idk If this a hot take but the Prometheans should've leaned more into the chess side with their names

We had the knights but the watchers should've been called bishops and the crawlers pawns in the game

Soldiers should've been rooks and idk for those automated turrets

[civic sundial]

I'd argue still looks really good, which is crazy considering how some other games released in the same year have aged far worse than Halo 4

[civic sundial]

20 seconds. I remember seeing allot of complaints about that back in the day and people timed it and it worked out to be 20 seconds

[warped yew]

And for the ranks, it should've had medieval influence

[uneven coyote]

im trying to beat halo infinite on legendary with every skull active. Which are the 2 best/most op weapons to use to do this? (i have max valor and have killed every boss so I have all unlocked)

[civic sundial]

Scorpion Cannon and either the Arcane Sentinel Beam or the Duelist Energy Sword

[warped yew]

The scorpion gun you get in the Tremonius mission

Always hide behind your shield

[civic sundial]

Soldiers needed to look less humanoid to me. Like, the other Promethean constructs were all more alien or animalistic in design and then the Soldiers are just grey humanoids

[warped yew]

Yeah I agree. They should've had a more unique silhouette which all the other prometheans had

[civic sundial]

Also rook would be a more fitting name for the stationary beam turrets the Prometheans use, given a room is depicted as a castle tower normally

[warped yew]

Hmm so what should we call the soldiers

[civic sundial]

Not sure

[warped yew]

Well until we find one. I'm gonna say this, you don't nearly get as much moments to fight the crawlers on walls

A majority of their fights are on the ground

[civic sundial]

I know Warden Eternal was called the Cavalier in development so maybe look at names related to that?

[warped yew]

Yeah I talked with one dude about this once. We went full medieval style with the knight ranks

[civic sundial]

They crawled a bunch on walls in Halo 4 at least. In Halo 5 they just stay on the floor

[warped yew]

I played through halo 4 again last week. Alot of crawlers first show up on the walls but they end quickly going to the ground to fight you

Like in Infinity, I thought the crawlers would've been fighting you from the branches of trees but instead, they're on the ground-<-

[keen silo]

Soldiers, until a better name is given, shall henceforth be known as Steve

[smoky forge]

I assure you, the problem that many people had with prometheans, was not their naming schema lol

[steady moon]

Anyone from Australia help us? We have someone in our party thst seems to be in trouble.

[hushed nest]

lesson learnt: Don't try legendary when you're not ready
especially in Halo 2.
the brutes were insane

[celest heron]

idk, sometimes it's fun to jump into the deep end.

[uneven coyote]

do you need to do it in the first run through or can you replay the mission, cuz im trying to replay and its not there

[warped yew]

Huh? It should be there every time you replay the mission

[uneven coyote]

nvm i got it

didnt realize u had to press buttons

[celest heron]

be a little careful with it cause sometimes you'll shoot enemies, but they'll just go flying instead of dying cause of the skulls and it won't clear the area.

[frosty condor]

that happened to me and rev on our laso run

[crimson eagle]

so sometimes when i hit the windows key on my keyboard, the mcc icon disappears on the taskbar

[warped yew]

Well that's something

[signal ivy]

been an issue for years, there's a fix IIRC

Windows search bar > Multitasking Settings > Bottom 2 options set from "Only-" to "All-

[edgy forum]

Just saw the Forge post and that looks cool

I like the Highground one, very clean and detailed

[crimson berry]

Swear to god, this game puts me into another in progress match and I'm immediately killed I'm done with this game tonight idc about the spartan points anymore.

[limpid lance]

Which would you prefer we get 1st, Halo 7 or CE remake?

[crimson berry]

Doesn't matter honestly.

That last match may have just made me quit playing Halo MP. :/ I'm so sick of teams like that.

Think I'm going back to playing once weekly just to do the new pass that season but I'm very much done with this.

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/chill-homie-fam-cool-the-simpsons-gif-5604292

[crimson berry]

Nah. Getting real tired of playing with players who never go for the rocket launchers, energy swords and just let the enemy team grab and camp.

Like it got really bad the last couple games.

[analog salmon]

i always go for OS on the PIt cause I've nailed the curbslide off the spawn and I always make it there first

but still see team mates not challenge for rocks for some crazy reason

[frosty condor]

I challenge rocks

I gotchu boo 😘

[coarse birch]

Anybody know where to find some moa statues in the campaign

[frosty condor]

There's guides on youtube, but the real adventure is to find them yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sinful grotto]

It also cost ai behaviour and physics. Crawlers are less capable than flood pure forms and have to go to ground to engage. Watcher pathfinding is a nightmare. Elites are a shadow of reaches and dumber than halo 3 brutes. The game is farore scripted than its predecessors and the prometheans pale in comparison to the early models they built.

[fallen laurel]

Does anyone have the Reach map "Cougar Plaza" for 360 or in their MCC file share by chance?

Been looking for months and simply cannot find it

[limpid matrix]

hi guys and gals, anyone know where i can get the halo infinite graphics skins from? is it in the store?

[swift iris]

Probably because of the risks since the area there turns into a grenade fest quickly. Though I believe that it's possible to pull off a combat evolved maneuver for 3. 4's version I'm not sure.

[civic sundial]

You're gonna have to describe what you're looking for in a bit more detail

[full warren]

While not on my main PC i play a smurf acocunt and I actualyl get games in my region here

Crazy, even tho I am basicly the same rank, I am D3 on smurf while D4 on main so its basicly the same but somehow i get games

ok I guess same region but its the same 4 peple lol

[crimson berry]

Idk why I went back to play, nor why I went back to playing Tactical. I always run into the same two people, they always camp at the back of the map and it gets seriously old seeing them. Just had to block them to get them out of rotation, hopefully permanently.

[full warren]

you can block people to not match them?

how do you block them lol

[warped yew]

U can do that?

[crimson berry]

I believe so, just find their names go into the Xbox App, search them up, go to their profile and hit block.

You can also unblock them later if you just want to be rotated out for a while, like tired of seeing a toxic player, ect.

[umbral mulch]

whats the most popular MP right now, would love to get some matches in

[crimson berry]

On Halo probably Fiesta and BTB.

[umbral mulch]

i got all the halo games

[gray hawk]

HR and H3 is your best bet

[frosty condor]

@broken sparrow remember there is no discussion about leaks, whether true or false, in this server.

Your other comments about the future of halo are fine, as long as they are constructive. Just keep the leaks part out of it