halo-discussion

[sullen owl]

As an AI where there are no downsides at least.

[drifting canopy]

Still a lot of different voices and different personalities that think independantly and have their own way of how best to subjugate the galaxy

[open tinsel]

I’m a Halo Infinite native and I just tried 5’s legendary and I think mythic firefight, and I’m just speechless…

[frosty condor]

In a good or bad way

[open tinsel]

I’m a bit torn, on one hand being able to play with 7 other people and req an ungodly amount of weapons and vehicles, including a mech, is insane to me. There’s also the idea that war zone is essentially a mash up of firefight, with different objectives and enemies every round making it a bit less predictable.

On the other hand, I’m the kind of person who absolutely loathes things like gacha and lootboxes(I like to know exactly what I’m paying for), so the idea that almost every piece of customization/req card is locked behind that does frustrate me.

However making ODST armor somewhat “free” and giving you a silver req pack after every match does sorta make up for that.

[supple moat]

For firefight, 343 needs to stop overthinking this game mode - reach and odst firefight were excellent because of their simplicity instead they complicate things like firefight in 5 and infinite… I like FF better in infinite than 5 but they are not at the level of reach or odst. They need a retro FF in matchmaking not just in customs.

[open tinsel]

Infinite is definitely a more relaxing experience than 5, I was really just bewildered about the amount of weapons and vehicles at my disposal and the variety of the objectives, I expected a lot less. Halo 5’s warzone ff is a bit more chaotic in its own way, and I like that.

[magic night]

Regular old FF in matchmaking is not a very fun experience. A lot fo the fun in old school FF came from surviving as long as possible. In matchmaking, I want it to end within a reasonable amount of time. The two don't do so well.

Even in Reach, where they had matchmaking for Firefight, it was a very different experience from the regular mode.

Because the regular mode isn't suited to matchmaking

[onyx latch]

I always got bored to tears by Reach's firefight tbh.

[narrow sedge]

Theory but cu29 might be a way of telling the community any news or teasers for the next halo game would be in 2029

[magic night]

That's such a stretch that its pretty much one-dimensional

[coarse dagger]

I think it's more like - the 29th update since the game launched, or something like that

[ruby knoll]

content updoot 29

[rich swan]

do you know which playlist gets the most multikill medals easily? Trying to finish the weekly

[sullen owl]

Either Big Team and hunt for vehicles or Husky Raid and pray for rockets.

[magic night]

Or Firefight and just take down whatever is there

[sullen owl]

Weekly capstone said "in PVP" does it still work in Firefight?

[rich swan]

should have specified PVP. This is for this weekly: 3 multikill medals in PVP

[magic night]

I don't recall it saying in PvP, but alst week it worked in Firefight when it said that, I assume its the same this week

[onyx latch]

I think MK's should still count in PvE because it counts the medals, not how you got them.

[sullen owl]

Ah beans. I grinded Husky Raid last night for it and I hate Husky Raid.

Kept getting absolute terrible starting weapons as well.

[magic night]

FFA is another pretty good one for multikills in PvP. More enemies, and you can third party.

[sullen owl]

That's fair, hadn't considered it an option, but yeah it'd be easy for sure.

[rich swan]

Really? I guess the weekly challenge could be written differently from its coding. Since it said PVP.
https://1drv.ms/i/s!AplXh533KGL4u3l23-wCx5Br3JM6?e=gl8bJy

[onyx latch]

Sussy link

[rich swan]

Sorry. can;t seem to put screenshot on chat so was using onedrive

[onyx latch]

It's happened before with backsmacks. It's why Achilles Spine and Sneak king don't count for backsmacks either.

[twilit basin]

Hey Google how do I farm exp

[twilit basin]

Unless it specifies PVP, Firefight counts

[onyx latch]

Last week ultimate challenge.

[twilit basin]

I got it

[onyx latch]

Counted backsmacks in firefight. despite being labelled PvP.

[twilit basin]

Oh lol

[drifting canopy]

I feel like KOTH works... it just does not work in it's current arena slayer state. If there was on static hill and the enemies kept massing and attacking a single defendable point and the spartans had to hold off waves and something like or to the effect of a steady income of BP xp for each wave. So the higher you get the more bp xp you accumulate. And the higher the difficulty (Heroic to Legendary) you obtain more bp xp for each wave.

Also having the option to fight off players playing on the enemy side so it's not just a snooze fest and mindlessly blasting away.

Reach allowed us to play as Elites and on the side of the covenant... so I mean it is not a stretch... and Banished recruit various individuals to the Banished cause. From insurrectionists to former covenant troops

[olive brook]

THANK YOU 343

[coarse dagger]

http://aka.ms/CU29Forge

[cinder inlet]

sup guys,i have a question maybe someone could clarify this for me,so today I've opened xbox app on pc and in purchased category i have halo 5,previously it wasn't available in my pc library for obvious reason,but now for some odd reason it does,any idea why?

[coarse dagger]

It's happened in the past, just an error on the library/store side. Doesn't mean anything

[cinder inlet]

gotcha,thx 4 the info

[twilit basin]

What’s the best way to get BP XP on infinite?

[sullen owl]

Complete your weekly challenges with 2XP enabled.

After that, probably play Squad Battle? You get BTB bonus exp. Also be sure to have the season/operation pass for a bonus too.

[twilit basin]

Nice thanks, was wondering which game mode is best/ fastest

Takes matchmaking a while to find squad battle

[sullen owl]

That would be a factor as well, time to actually find a match if you're going for best way completely meta wise. Would need to do fancy math on that though.

@river minnow You're a blue name, what's the fastest queue in blue name land?

[young glen]

Play every day so you get the first match of the day bonus.

[olive brook]

imagine being a blue name (couldnt be me)

[twilit basin]

Aren’t I blue

Thanks for the info

[elder crypt]

Is it just me or the 10 mission of halo wars is so hard

[river minnow]

quick play, super fiesta and husky raid + any ff

[signal heron]

soooooo is sbmm getting fixed? its rough

[crystal iron]

nope

[rotund zenith]

Firefight is by far the fastest in my experience. Queue is almost instant since it doesnt need sbmm and you can comfortably get 4 matches in an hour period to make use of the double xp boost. Its also easier for the performance challenges unless you have real good luck in fiesta

[worn iron]

Use Scorpions, Wolverines, and Warthogs. Air units are almost useless due to Launchers

[signal heron]

Also is anybody else facing cheaters? just played somebody that had aimbot, dont want call of duty lobbys in halo lol

[serene furnace]

You can't just call anyone who has good aiming an aimbot user

[signal heron]

totally agree, but this player had 49 kils and 49 headshots, also being in the same game you can tell, also theater mode lol

[serene furnace]

Those are both entirely possible

Look at Mint Blitz
The only times he doesn't kill with a headshot is when he uses explosives

And theater mode is pretty bugged

[young glen]

Please ensure you file a report.
I agree with you, likely a cheater in my opinion. x32 perfects and the account was only created today.

[serene furnace]

Potential smurf

Smurfing is not illegal btw, just annoying

[young glen]

Ok.

[signal heron]

lol @serene furnace this isnt my first time playing halo. Im just bringing awarness that i just played a cheater and seeing if other people have too recently.

[serene furnace]

I saw many claims of cheaters in the Halo 5 days

[signal heron]

yes i did!

[young glen]

Good stuff. 🙂

[serene furnace]

Which begs the question of how did someone manage to cheat in a game that is not on PC

[drifting canopy]

When in doubt build Cobra's

[inland matrix]

Could be xims (zims?) or those strike pack things

I knew a guy on xbox who would use one for Fortnite

[left snow]

And just occasionally you have a day out.

Just then I got my first ever Ranked perfection. 17 & 0. And the opposition is probably complaining bitterly about the Gold "Smurf" they just came up against.

Was just flukey. Somehow I ended up with the Active Camo three times - which makes kills easy in KOTH. Like moths to the flame...

And I don't know how I didn't die. My ping was horrible but for once it seemed to be working in my favour. Didn't get shot around a corner. Although that's easier when they can't see you anyway.

[signal heron]

I posted the video on youtube, can i post the link in this discord?

[left snow]

I think it's OK as long as the video doesn't have any gamer tags?

[signal heron]

it has the gamertag in it lol

[slim walrus]

Anyone BR?

[slim flint]

battle rifle?

[low hollow]

huh... i think ther'es ppl cheating in halo 2 multi...

getting one shot with assault rifles

on full shields and they as soon as any one of my team walks around a corner. sniped across the map. this doesnt seem normal.? it was slayer mode

they're hutning down, there's no radar and they know exactly where we are

unlucky, having to be matche with the exact same players again i nthe second game. this is really ruining my experience of halo 2 multiplayer

[crystal iron]

4 more days till it's Jerome time

[worn iron]

Counting down the days

[crystal iron]

I see your PFP shows your ready

[worn iron]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-so-true-my-friend-halo-wars-spartan-meme-gif-26451791

[stark kayak]

any tips on how to get good at halo games? tryna play through halo CE on legendary (i am in severe pain)

[low hollow]

Haha, noticed something while running around in The Armoury level in Halo 2. Master Chief is unarmed but his shadow shows his pose as if he was holding an invisible gun.
https://imgur.com/a/dsJCXYi

[ashen atlas]

Practice. But regardless, there will be pain in ce and h2 legendary, especially if it’s your first time

[twilit basin]

John Halo

[low hollow]

interesting, turned on active camo on MC but the skull doesn't get cloaked
https://imgur.com/a/8d1QvLe

[low hollow]

When you board a ghost but the elite boards it back. 🤣

[cyan sinew]

Hell

Ago

[civic sundial]

Don't quote me on this but Halo 2 has no unarmed animations for Chief as far as I know. Just wait until you get to Halo 3, there is one but it's kinda goofy looking

[civic sundial]

Does that happen in the classic graphics as well?

[zenith hill]

does halo5 actually queue

[low ivy]

In squad battle (Halo infinite), there is Sbmm ?

[coarse dagger]

Yes

[low ivy]

Low level of sbmm comparing to others playlist ?

[coarse dagger]

No idea

[analog salmon]

it makes the same effort to balance teams from what i can tell

but its more likely to snowball because of the nature of 8v8

[drifting canopy]

I miss the SMG guys…

And with the MK IV coming out… the SMG would also be pretty awesome addition just saying

[slim flint]

they should have dual SMGs as a standalone weapon

[stark kayak]

first time on legendary, I've completed 1-5 and half of ODST.

[celest heron]

you miss not killing people?

[thick spear]

anyone rember 1 first halo on xbox

then after i played 1 i played 2 then 3

[celest heron]

yes

[serene furnace]

You're saying

Halo has other unique weapons like the Sticky Detonator, the Railgun, the Fuel Rod Gun, the Plasma Rifle, the Needle Rifle, Incineration Cannon, Focus Rifle, SAW, Grenade Launcher, Plasma Grenade Launcher, Plasma Launcher, Target Designator and the Spartan Laser...

And you're asking for the dollar store Assault Rifle????????????

[drifting canopy]

Hmm are some threads being closed?

[drifting canopy]

Yes

[rotund zenith]

the saw is the dollarstore smg and noone can change my mind

[drifting canopy]

The Assault Rifle is just that… an AR. The Saw was a Machine gun… The commando replaced the Saw for Machine Gun. The Commando feels and sounds heavy in comparison to the saw

Imagine if we got the Flamethrower back?? 😂 we’d need new back to chest type attachments for our Spartans like a fuel tank

[olive brook]

i miss the railgun

[rotund zenith]

wish we'd have gotten the plasma rifle back

miss my automatic pewpew gun

[olive brook]

so many weapons and in 2 years we only got the dmr twice

[jovial dock]

I somehow have an attachments for firefall without having firefall my confusion is building up

[rotund zenith]

its a good looking helmet from most angles

[radiant sundial]

because they gave everyone the attatchment because it was added to it, so now everyone has it, but iirc it only works on firefall

[jovial dock]

Ah gotcha thanks for letting me know

[analog salmon]

you ever have that one guy who pings like mad but never pushes with you

v confusing

maybe they dont believe in themselves and they think they need to hold back or summin

[drifting canopy]

Depends if they’re aware of the location but are waiting for you to flush the enemy out or get the enemy into better engagement range

[drifting canopy]

Depends on their weapons honestly

[analog salmon]

halo is about challenging as a team though :D

two guns melt whatever they are

pretty much always BR or Bandit since i dont play modes with only sidekick starts

id push get melted by the two players and then he'd push and get melted too. like bruh push with me not after me lol

[worn iron]

problem is, nobody uses the chat feature and far less actually use microphones

[stark fractal]

That’s why I try to mostly play with a stack haha. The game is more fun when everyone communicates.

[worn iron]

It really is. I only play with a group on KOTH FF for the same reason

[stark fractal]

Haven’t played too much firefight but from what I did play I really liked it as a warm up. I mostly play ranked arena

Always fun to throw one grenade and get a large multi kill lol

[worn iron]

Can't hate, I'm just a PvE guy anymore. Used to enjoy PvP when I was younger and I didn't have as many responsibilities 😛

[stark fractal]

I get it. I’ll still play back through the campaign from time to time. Infinite might be my favorite one

Nothing beats zooming around with the grapple hook haha

[agile cobalt]

i dont know what they did recently, but the sbmm has been EVEN WORSE, one flag, an already practically unplayable gamemode, is now even worse, (aka the team who starts with the flag, wins the game all the time), you get 4 to 5 teammates who have no idea how to play the game or act as a team (and it isnt a one off, so people who glaze the sbmm cant say teams dont mesh all the time, i get that lmao) slayer and total control is unplayable because it feels like ur going up against 8 heros with 2 sticks and a rock, and you had to share the rock. they dont know power weapons, they cant even kill people i ping, and they practically sabatoge the team all the time

[agile cobalt]

agreed, infinites weapon sandbox is actually pretty good,

[stark fractal]

Yeah. It’s funny how there’s a lot of weapons that aren’t too good in matchmaking but are amazing in campaign

[agile cobalt]

agreed

its like they took some of the best weapons out of the campaign and just threw em away for multiplayer

[stark fractal]

The mangler for example (it’s good now since the buff in mm) is amazing in campaign

Same with the plasma rifle

[agile cobalt]

mangler on launch was crazy on small 4v4 maps

i used that 24/7, and it seemed like no one else did

[stark fractal]

Yeah it’s an instagib machine on tight maps like recharge

[agile cobalt]

lmfao thats the map i was thinking of when i remembered that

[stark fractal]

So many choke points to sit in

[agile cobalt]

nah i didnt camp i went out and fought with mangler and sidekick

i killed someone with a sidekick even though they had 2 power weapons

[stark fractal]

Back then you could also drop weapon super fast

[agile cobalt]

bro was most def angry after that

[agile cobalt]

hold this!

[stark fractal]

Haha yup

[drifting canopy]

Hmm I’m swamped with stuff going on, on the 30th. I can’t like pre purchase the new operation dropping then??

Nvm I guess I could after

[worn iron]

The new operation is free for all players starting the 30th.

[drifting canopy]

But limited time?

Like Jan 30th till March 30th or something

Or is it a permanent free thing?

[worn iron]

From my understanding it is limited. However, from Halo Waypoint: "Once an active Operation has ended, the Operation pass be purchased at any point thereafter via the Switcher or Shop (for both the 500 and 2,000 credits instant-unlock offer)."

[drifting canopy]

Huh cool

So we’re seeing more operations more frequently?

[worn iron]

So if you're busy and can't get to it, you can buy access to it is what it seems like 🙂

[worn iron]

Yep! Seems like Seasons are out and Operations are in

[ruby lake]

so its just seasons 0.5?

ill take it!

[worn iron]

supposed to be easier on everybody-- people who can't commit to a full season track and also developers so they can focus on more targeted releases

personally, i'd rather take the 20-30 level tracks with a higher % of cool armor/coatings

[upbeat cape]

Hey MCC, where are the Ranked PvP at?

[toxic parrot]

There's a Playlist in mcc called competitive. That's basically ranked

Which is weird since invasion isn't supposed to be competitive yet it's part of the Playlist

[upbeat cape]

No. I'm here sitting in queue, and it appears dead

Sorry I wasn't clear about that.

[toxic parrot]

Aw. Well that's because mcc is,well practically dead. A lot of the playlists are limited and the only real populated ones are halo 2,3 and reach,with 3 being most played

[upbeat cape]

Queue popped right now. tyvm

[toxic parrot]

Yep,it takes a while finding players but you usually will find someone

[white birch]

Less fillers always good.

[toxic parrot]

Honestly people refuse to accept it but they'll complain about everything

As much as people hated coatings and some still hate them,this is the first time I can make my spartan look like he's gold and shiny. Or give him a unique woodland camo,or arctic camo. No other halo has ever had that, and the other games were just red vs blue

[slender bridge]

thought of a better name instead of "CU29"

Season 6 Operation 1

the season thing really doesn't matter since Operations are just mini battlepasses

[left snow]

I've found coatings to be way more interesting than the old system - where pretty much everyone ran around with the same dozen or so colour schemes.

I do find some of the stuff people run around in bit "jarring". But that's a relatively small minority. For the most part it's cool to see what people have put together to make their Spartan theirs.

I would love it the next iteration of multiplayer takes it a step further and lets us make our own coatings.

[toxic parrot]

That's what I'm saying. I never understood the "colors are so much better" when the game was mostly rvb and even in ffa,many players had the same primary colors. There was no unique spartan back then. Infinite literally has Infinite combinations (not really but you know what I mean)

[left snow]

I remember counting a couple of hundred Spartans in Halo 5. Everyone was literally using the same half a dozen combos of colours.

But then complaining when Infinite came out that were being suffocated with lack of choice.

Hopefully now they can see what freedom we have. Someone here or on Reddit recently ran through the combinations of Spartans we currently have (with the recent addition of cross core shoulders). It was huge compared to previous games.

[toxic parrot]

Exactly. Infinite just needs more sandbox items and it will be at the top

[left snow]

Imagine if we had control over the colours for each coating. Being able to change what's on the little colour wheel; hues, materials, patterns, wear and tear.

The possible combinations would be heading towards Infinite. 🙂

[toxic parrot]

That would definitely be cool. Especially since some coatings, like G2 exports playoffs, look cool colors wise but since there's no wear and tear it looks like it's plastic

[crystal iron]

Two more days till it's JEROME TIME!

[worn iron]

LOCAL UNITS!

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-wars-spartan2-spartan-jerome-red-team-halo-gif-15984553

[zealous panther]

This armour looks sick.

[frosty condor]

Yessir!!!

[drifting canopy]

Seriously as BA as Chief imo would be awesome to see them in a campaign expansion

[zealous panther]

At this point I would not hope for a campaign expansion. Or meaningful changes. Without seasons I don't really see anything big will be released.

[ivory gate]

Anybody know of any mods to 3, odst or reach that allow for 5+ players in campaign? Looking for 6 but will take whatever I can find.

[weary trout]

apperantly halo infinite couldve had a ghost recon kinda gunsmith to customize attachments in the concept art

[waxen dome]

Does anyone have fix for campaign being mashed potato?

[signal ivy]

do the twist

[waxen dome]

@signal ivy how

[agile cobalt]

gg 343 made ur game even worse apparently

sbmm recently has not worked at all, im getting ranked up against insane players while i get players who quit after dying once

[serene furnace]

Thought of an even better idea

Backtrack on the stupid Operations idea and just go back to actual seasons

[crystal iron]

Can someone explain to me why they went from a rated m game to a rated T game is it because of monetization or is it because it's just too much to add all of the blood and stuff because I was replaying Halo reach and it's just the rag doll and blood physics and all that was just nostalgia and I'm kind of disappointed that infinite and 5 didn't really have as much blood

They could just be me but whatever

[signal ivy]

outside of the US the rating has stayed the same

ratings may have become more lenient as time has progressed

and contrary to what a lot of people believe, it has nothing to do with the flood

[crystal iron]

Ah, I just felt the trilogy, reach and odst seemed more chaotic compared to five and infinite

[agile cobalt]

yea

[crystal iron]

I need to find a way to make it enjoyable cause I'm heartbroken

[worn iron]

The gif I needed to see today

[stoic canopy]

That moment when you go from "Maybe that guy is just really good" to "Okay he is 100% cheating".

[agile lodge]

The game is dead, halo infinite’s chance has come and gone

It’s been three years and they still haven’t added any new weapons, vehicles, etc

[serene furnace]

With moves like this it might just die for good, yes

[agile lodge]

That’s embarrassing.

[stoic canopy]

Are we still doing this lie

[crystal iron]

It's been three years?!

[stoic canopy]

Like are we straight up just lying for attention now?

[agile lodge]

What new vehicle did they add? What new weapon? Don’t say the Dmr, they added two variants of it and that’s from a prior halo game

[uneven bison]

It would appear so

[serene furnace]

They can keep adding as many customization pieces as they want, that still won't make me forget that they haven't added a new weapon since the Bandit, no new vehicles, and no new BTB maps since Season 4

[agile lodge]

The live service for this game is butt, the only add a handful of maps and let forgers do the rest of the work

[crystal iron]

At this point I'm just going to binge read all the novels

[agile lodge]

The bandit is just the dmr from halo reach, that ain’t new

343 badly mishandled this game and is pulling the nuclear option of going away from seasons so they can focus attention on their next halo project

[uneven bison]

Bait used to be believable

[stoic canopy]

I've noticed this is becoming a bigger and bigger problem in gaming; like people just straight up lying about things and continuing to do so even after being challenged or proven wrong.

Like they realized there is no ref or any enforcement so they can just lie for clicks and attention to turn the narrative the way they want it.

[agile lodge]

I know, like how people got baited with halo infinite when it launched

[uneven bison]

It’s an increasing problem with the internet, you can just lie, and anyone who corrects you gets slapped with a “🤓” react

[agile lodge]

Okay you keep repeating that but not giving anything that 343 did that significantly helped the game. Forge is great and all sure but they haven’t added any unique maps and maps, they finally added firefight mode years after the game’s release

[serene furnace]

They did keep adding dev made maps after the release of Forge

[agile lodge]

And they mostly are relying on forge maps created by the community to put into playlists because they can’t be bothered to create new maps. 3 years.

[agile lodge]

Only a few

[serene furnace]

But maps are hardly a lacking aspect of the game now
The sandbox is my concern

[agile lodge]

Thanks to forge, other than that the map roster is still very lacking. Halo 2 still has the most maps out of any halo game

[serene furnace]

But most of Halo 2's maps were added post launch

At launch it had 11

[agile lodge]

Right that’s what I mean, halo infinite has like 19 maps for the span of 3 years

[serene furnace]

Over 50 but

[agile lodge]

No new weapons besides adding another variant of the dmr for no reason, no new vehicles, but that doesn’t really matter since the vehicles are extremely weak in this game since there’s weapons that counter them heavily

[serene furnace]

The comparison is not very fair for me in that regard

[agile lodge]

You’re using forge maps, that’s not actual dev made maps

[serene furnace]

Designing one map for Infinite probably takes the same time it would to make 5 maps for Halo 2

[agile lodge]

Then that’s a problem, especially for live service

[serene furnace]

It's not a like a game made in 2021 with a new engine and modern graphics will be as easy to update as one made in 2004

[agile lodge]

I really don’t even like the maps all too much in halo infinite as they don’t have the same asymmetrical and symmetrical feel to the older halo maps prior to reach.

They’re all designed to be competitive kill boxes that are meant to gain attraction to ranked players

Like halo 5’s maps, which don’t feel unique

[agile lodge]

Not a new engine, they’re using the old blam engine but it’s modified and buggier now.

[onyx latch]

Doesn't help when you just want to remake midship for the dozenth time.

I am so tired of Midship.

[agile lodge]

That’s why the code for halo infinite is spaghetti, they’re using a 22 year old engine at this point

[serene furnace]

That's not exactly true

[stoic canopy]

Maps added by 343 post-launch:

• Breaker
• Chasm
• Cliffhanger
• Forbidden
• Oasis
• Prism
• Scarr
• Illusion (coming on the 30th)

Halo Infinite Launched with 10 Maps (2nd highest in the series) and has added 8, giving it 18, one short of the highest ever Halo game

[onyx latch]

Oh, gamers learning what an engine is is one of the greatest blows to understanding of how games are made, ever. Because most are wrong.

[serene furnace]

Not even Halo 2 uses the same engine as Halo CE

[serene furnace]

Launched with 10 actually

[agile lodge]

Yes it’s the same with the tiger engine for destiny, they aren’t new engines, they are derived from the BLAM one

[stoic canopy]

Which one did I miss?

[agile lodge]

That’s why new contractors that work in the game have to deal with really old code that they don’t know how to work h

[serene furnace]

Idk you didn't list them

[stoic canopy]

RIGHT I missed High Power

[agile lodge]

That’s why halo infinite couldn’t even add playlists without fearing to break the game even more

[stoic canopy]

So yeah it's 10

[agile lodge]

In 3 years wohoo!

[serene furnace]

I think the priorities are misplaced

[agile lodge]

Learning an engine is hard, learning an ancient engine is harder, which is what halo infinite uses but is heavily modified. It’s the same with the tiger engine from destiny.

[stoic canopy]

You're not just moving the Goalposts; you've got them strapped to a Ghost and are fishtailing down the highway

[agile lodge]

Where’s my goalposts? I’m speaking the truth here.

[onyx latch]

Cool, thanks for telling me something I've known for a literal half decade.

[uneven bison]

There we go. Good ol my opinions are right and everyone else is wrong.

[agile lodge]

Halo infinite is sorely mismanaged and they barely managed to get out forge, firefight, and coop in a span of 3 years with each coming out a year between respectively

[onyx latch]

I mean, wasn't that already obviously their stance?

[agile lodge]

Awesome.

[uneven bison]

I was waiting for them to admit it

[stoic canopy]

This new obsession with UE5 is insane. People saw a shiny new thing and think it will make everything better if they use it without understanding that the things that make the games the way they enjoy them ARE THE ENGINES AND CHANGING ENGINES CHANGES THE GAME.

[agile lodge]

At least unreal engine is stable and easy to work with

[uneven bison]

Because some YouTuber/online personality retweeted or made a video making up something and the halo community as per usual ran completely off the rails with it

[stoic canopy]

• "They didn't add anything"
• "They didn't nearly enough"
• "They didn't add it fast enough"

[agile lodge]

343 and the contractors they hire have to deal with an unstable and buggy 20 year old engine

[serene furnace]

What I don't like about Firefight is how wasted it feels
They could go all out and have us fight Marines, Sentinels and add the boss fights from the campaign
So far you only fight the expected enemies with one or two HVT minibosses thrown to the mix

[stoic canopy]

It's not just Halo; it's damn near everything.

CoD. Battlefield. Bethesda games.

WORLD OF WARCRAFT.

[agile lodge]

They only added 9 new maps in a span of 3 years, they added a gun from halo reach and added another variant of it several months later, they didn’t add any new vehicles.

[serene furnace]

2 years and 3 months to be precise

[agile lodge]

Firefight king of the hill is fun for a few matches but feels really limiting

[serene furnace]

Yes 2021 was 3 years ago, but November of 2021 wasn't

[uneven bison]

It is a real issue, people trust leakers and rumors and get upset when stuff that was really never promised doesn’t come. (No, splitscreen co-op is different they did promise it themselves, before someone says it.)

[onyx latch]

Technically split screen did exist from launch anyways.

[uneven bison]

People need to give other people time to work and stop treating them like factory machines that only work for their enjoyment

[onyx latch]

Just for MP, not campaign.

[agile lodge]

Honestly 343 bites off more than they can chew and they did it 4 times already.

They try to strive for ambition but it always leads to disaster

[serene furnace]

I wouldn't blame them on that

[uneven bison]

I thought online splitscreen came in the winter update?

Iirc

[onyx latch]

No, it was from launch.

[agile lodge]

They promise features that would be at launch and then they can’t deliver on it

[serene furnace]

I blame Microsoft
They gave their flagship IP to a small studio with only a couple years of experience and didn't bring another studio of the 30+ they own to help

[agile lodge]

They promise good change but it’s barely there

[uneven bison]

Oh, I never tried getting my friends to play it with me so I wouldn’t really know

I enjoy campaigns more by myself anyway

[onyx latch]

Ugh.

[agile lodge]

Well take in their hiring practices for halo 4’s production of hiring people who didn’t like halo or played it. Rapidly change the core gameplay to favor an audience that wouldn’t be remotely interested to begin with.

[serene furnace]

That's a misconception

[stoic canopy]

343 has only 1 "disaster" to their name - Launch MCC

Every other Halo they've made has not only made money but reviewed well and been played by a lot of people for a long time

Not as great as we'd hoped, but calling 343 a "failure" or "disaster" is not using those words correctly

[onyx latch]

Literally a quote taken out of context, lmao. And honestly, I'd hire people who have a drive to fix problems that are problems too.

[serene furnace]

Halo 4 was made by people who loved Halo but wanted to modernize the formula
And there is nothing wrong in WANTING to modernize something
It's the execution of it that can be hit-or-miss

[agile lodge]

Halo MCC, it was 343’s idea to add in all the numbered halo games of that time to be fit into one game, without realizing the repercussions of how ambitious that is. Which costed them a lot. And something they decided to fix up years later with it not being 100% stable still.

[onyx latch]

God, that one conversational spectre has been haunting 343i for a long time. I love bad faith Youtube articles meant to spread garbage like that.

[uneven bison]

“Hiring People who hate halo to work on halo” is textbook example of why context is important. Should they have said it? No, way better ways to word that, but context does matter, as if the show hasn’t proven that.

[agile lodge]

Halo 4’s player base died faster than halo reach, Halo 5 didn’t make enough sales as the prior halo games not to mention how polarizing the game was in general. That’s what caused them to do a soft reboot to halo infinite.

[onyx latch]

What's hilarious to me is that people insist that Halo needs to evolve, but evolving with the times is decried and hated.

[serene furnace]

MCC wouldn't have been needed to be rushed for a 2014 release if Microsoft had included backwards compatibility in the Xbox One since launch and not 2 years later like they ultimately did

[onyx latch]

It literally made more money than any other prior Halo.

[agile lodge]

Yeah imo, they should’ve kept mcc as different games but under one launcher

Instead of trying to fit all the engines into one game to create an undefintive and buggy experience

It’s still like that nowadays but it is a lot better than it was before.

[onyx latch]

5 actively tried to evolve Halo, and frankly, learning from the top performer's kinda what Halo started out doing.

[serene furnace]

I'll have to stop you right there

[agile lodge]

They turned it into cod bro. Loadouts, orbital drops, default sprint, abilities, etc.

[serene furnace]

If Halo 5 hadn't made enough money a sequel wouldn't have even been greenlit

[serene furnace]

Loadouts, sprint and abilities were all in Reach

[onyx latch]

Oh boy, the spectre of Sprint.

[agile lodge]

It made enough but not much for what they had hope which is why Microsoft had to put a new financial goal to make it seem like it was the biggest halo release.

[serene furnace]

No one can convince me that Reach wasn't already taking inspiration from COD

[agile lodge]

Yeah and that player base dropped too, people didn’t like halo reach multiplayer

But halo 4’s player base died faster than reach did

[serene furnace]

Reach even added that stupid 10 second "return to the map or die" timer that ruined exploration in First Person Shooters

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/-gif-7960868

[agile lodge]

Because Reach at least had a good forge mode with better canvas maps. So the custom games were keeping it alive.

[onyx latch]

Okay, I always thought that was stupid as a complaint.

It 'ruins exploration' in the same way instakill barriers did, lmao.

Which is to say, you aren't supposed to be somewhere and the game's just gonna either hard wall you or kill you for it before that time existed.

[agile lodge]

It was but it was also a footnote into what destiny’s mechanics would be too. The abilities, etc.

[onyx latch]

If the timer's there instead of a wall or instakill, you can still use that area as egress into another region.

[serene furnace]

You know the different between the timer in Reach maps and the landmines in Sandtrap from Halo 3?
That Halo 3's approach was way more creative

[onyx latch]

Good for 3, they had the time to waste.

[agile lodge]

You can also exploit the kill switches in halo 3 anyways

People use to make game modes out of those which were cool.

[serene furnace]

Only in Forge

[worn iron]

Firefight in which game? Because you literally fight Tremonius, Chak Lok, Hyperius/Tovarus, Jega, and Escharum in KOTH FF lol...

[onyx latch]

You know what though I absolutely agree that Halo 4's loadouts sucked

Because they didn't go far enough.

[serene furnace]

Don't know, never got them

[onyx latch]

Should've had weapon attachments, a modified and extensive upgrade system, more grenade options, more abilities.

[serene furnace]

I may have gotten Chak Lok once and the teammates killed him in 5 seconds

[worn iron]

Yeah dude, all of the campaign bosses are in the rotation

If you didn't get any of them yet

[agile lodge]

Oh no

[serene furnace]

However

[agile lodge]

I wasn’t a fan of boss fights in halo, they don’t belong, they kill the sandbox imo.

[serene furnace]

Where are the Sentinels and the Marines?
I've seen Firefight maps with Marines in the custom game browser, so they are possible

[onyx latch]

I'd rather feel like a supersoldier with high loadout options than a UT competitor who got his kneecaps shot out a'la classic Halo, lmao

[serene furnace]

I had that feeling since they added them in Halo 2 and I still dislike that approach

[agile lodge]

Halo’s inspiration for multiplayer was UT

[serene furnace]

FPS is just not the genre for boss fights

[agile lodge]

I didn’t like it in halo 2 either, feels out of place and kills the sandbox and enemy encounters dramatically

[onyx latch]

Halo's MP inspiration wasn't just UT, lmao. And if it was solely UT, good god did Bungie screw up.

[agile lodge]

Halo infinite added them in and you can obviously tell they were inspired by doom eternal or something with the way the bosses are introduced. It’s so lame.

[serene furnace]

Their previous franchise, Marathon, played more like Doom than anything else

[agile lodge]

They wanted to create an arena multiplayer with their own take on it which was highly successful

[onyx latch]

"Inspired by Doom Eternal"

Halo 5 had similar bosses in WZFF.

[worn iron]

Sentinels would be a cool enemy to fight, but it'd get stale pretty quick IMO since they're the only Forerunner enemy type

[onyx latch]

Successful doesn't mean good.

[agile lodge]

Yeah lame.

[onyx latch]

Can't be inspired by Doom Eternal if it came out nearly 5 years before Doom Eternal.

[agile lodge]

They were inspired by destiny then.

[serene furnace]

I don't know how far away we are from Halo 7
But if it's still a couple years away, then I will ask them to add more enemies on Infinite just for Firefight

[agile lodge]

Ask the millions of players that played the original trilogy then talk to me

[onyx latch]

So we're claiming Destiny came up with the idea of that sort of boss? Are you sure?

[agile lodge]

No, it popularized it

[onyx latch]

LMAO

[worn iron]

I just wanna see other types of FF-- throw in Sniperfight, floodfight, basic firefight, etc.

[agile lodge]

Just like halo popularized match made multiplayer, health regen, etc

[onyx latch]

That's a hell of a bold claim buckaroo

[serene furnace]

Halo 5's beta came out in 2014
Same year as Destiny 1
They couldn't have possibly gotten the game running for beta in the couple months between Destiny's launch and the beta

[agile lodge]

And I meant halo infinite’s boss approach, the way they’re introduced screams doom eternal

[onyx latch]

Also, Ad Populum. Don't care what the fans thought, if it's based off of UT, it's a poor imitation.

[agile lodge]

They obviously wanted to create the modern doom of Halo with the way they introduced boss fights in the campaign and it’s just so bad

[serene furnace]

Again, Halo Infinite was in development at the same time as Doom Eternal, it would have even launched in the same year if not for the delay

[agile lodge]

Doom was created with boss fights in mind, halo just isn’t. It kills the flow and enemy encounters

[worn iron]

I don't really think it was that bad how they introduced bosses. Seems pretty basic to me

[onyx latch]

... Good lord, this is just inaccurate take after inaccurate take.

[serene furnace]

I don't get the claims about Halo 5 copying Titanfall either because again, same year

[onyx latch]

"Destiny did it! It's based off Doom Eternal!" when it's literally being done concurrently or well before, time and time again.

[worn iron]

Yeah I never understood this

[agile lodge]

Eternal launched in 2019 halo infinite launched in 2021

[onyx latch]

That's great for both, but the concepts for all this predate both by decades.

[serene furnace]

Eternal launched in 2020 my dude

[agile lodge]

Just like the introduction of the grapple hook.

[onyx latch]

The grapple hook's been a part of gaming since before 2007.

[serene furnace]

And Spartans use grapple hooks in the books

[agile lodge]

Sure with the earliest iteration being in avp classic

[onyx latch]

Can't be. It was copying Doom Eternal.

Doom Eternal's the first game with a grapple.

Just like how it's the first game with boss health bars and enemy intros.

[serene furnace]

Titanfall 2 did grapple hooks before Doom Eternal too

[worn iron]

Grapple hook was in older games too, like Titanfall 1 and 2

[onyx latch]

Just Cause.

[agile lodge]

But doom eternal popularized it. There’s no way halo infinite had that in mind before, it feels so inadequate to the vehicle sandbox it basically kills it

[onyx latch]

No, Doom Eternal didn't popularize it, the hell are you talking about?

[agile lodge]

Can’t remember the last time@I used a vehicle in halo infinite’s campaign

[worn iron]

Nah, TF2 popularized it before any other titles

[agile lodge]

Dying light also had the grapple hook, I forgot about that

[serene furnace]

Having similar features is not a copy in any way
I can't keep hearing about how every modern FPS is a Half-Life copy

[onyx latch]

Hell, Halo's got more Half Life DNA than anyone who claims to like Halo cares to admit.

[agile lodge]

Half life was just the first fps to have a story

[onyx latch]

Not even close.

[agile lodge]

But it plays nothing like half life.

[onyx latch]

Duke Nukem, Blood, all the old school boomer shooters.

[serene furnace]

Then future FPS games with a story are copying it

[agile lodge]

The enemy encounters, the weapon and vehicle sandbox, the gameplay.

[onyx latch]

Shadow Warrior.

[agile lodge]

They didn’t have consistent stories, half life did better pacing because it was all continuous.

It set the standard for video game story telling.

[onyx latch]

"Consistent"

More better presentation because tech got better. Even then you were still a non character surviving your way through everything while the story happened in the background.

[agile lodge]

However half life is different from halo’s story telling but in the original game, they don’t have established characters until blue shift and decay.

[serene furnace]

Since when is Halo original anyway
Halo CE feels like a Frankentesin of Half-Life, Doom, Starcraft, Alien, Ringworld and Star Wars

[agile lodge]

They used environmental story telling to present the story encountering npcs that drop information that continues it or is related to the events that are unfolding

[onyx latch]

Right, because Duke Nukem, Lo Wang, and Caleb aren't established characters with goals and motivations fulfilling plot objectives in order.

[agile lodge]

Half life’s approach to story telling is different from Halo tho

[onyx latch]

Half Life was the first to invent a protagonist role with speaking roles, motivation, goals, and objectives.

[serene furnace]

Are we gonna complain about Dead Space copying the Flood to create the Necromorphs?
We can't, because the Flood is copying Xenomorphs and zombies combined

[onyx latch]

Concept that predates Half Life, actually. It's not exactly novel and experiments mixing the two predates HL.

Oh, muted. Lmao.

Hell, there's a lot of games that came out the same year as Half Life 1 with concurrent development cycles that were competing games.

Thief, for example, released less than a month after HL1.

[serene furnace]

Just a few months after Halo CE there was Metroid Prime

[onyx latch]

And that actually had a main character who interacted with other people in gameplay on a verbal level.

One of the other first games to do that was basically a Doom TCM.

Hell, even earlier, there are games like Pathways into Darkness, which came out in 1993 for the Macintosh.

Which had dialogue systems with dead people through a magic crystal.

Reformists always try to claim CE was this watershed freight train of perfect development when it always just seems more like it got lucky by having the right mix of consumeable and desired traits.

[worn iron]

Halo 2 was rushed and imperfect, but now looking back it's a gem. The irony? Bungie had luck to help keep the franchise alive until 3.

[serene furnace]

I love Halo 2's campaign

But CE's jankyness and Halo 2's brokennes make the multiplayers of those 2 insufferable to me

It was not until Halo 3 that I started having a good time with Halo multiplayers

[worn iron]

H3 was peak multiplayer

you had forge, custom games, rotating game modes

[serene furnace]

Yeah

I loved how every Halo multiplayer was getting progressively more stable and faster

[stiff wedge]

Is anyone else not connecting to multiplayer?

[wicked marsh]

i cant

[stiff wedge]

Do these outages usually last long? Haven’t been steady on in a while this is a first in a couple of weeks

[wicked marsh]

i have no idea

[stiff wedge]

Hopefully it’s not like D2 where they last for hours or days

[sonic ivy]

bruh i just wanna play halo

not even mp, just campaign, but it wants to authenticate anyway 😭

[stiff wedge]

I feel you. It stinks

[white birch]

Same result as most series that hit the limelight; lot of its luck.

[olive copper]

Yo is there any halo books set during or after Halo infinite? Preferably one with audiobook plz

[white birch]

Rubicon Protocol is set during the 6 months gap Chief is stuck in space for.

[sullen kiln]

343 is aware that Halo services are experiencing issues.

For the latest information, please follow Halo Support on Twitter: https://twitter.com/HaloSupport

[crystal iron]

So Infinite has an outage right now?

[celest heron]

yes

[bright yoke]

im looking for a copy of my discord background but i cant find the full size picture anywhere anyone know where it is

[opaque dirge]

Where husky raid go?

[analog salmon]

MIA

[opaque dirge]

L

[analog salmon]

worked for me now

[astral inlet]

https://www.halopedia.org/MJOLNIR_Powered_Assault_Armor/Mark_V#/media/File:HINF_MarkVPromoFull.jpg

[reef swan]

Hey, just to be sure, can we do goat roaped using the legendary campaign playlist?

[ruby knoll]

learning is a strong word here

is there a word that means 'gained awareness of a subject/concept/idea while not gaining or actively losing knowledge/understanding of said subject/concept/idea'

we need a word like that

[topaz pier]

should i read all halo books in release order or chronological order?

[sullen owl]

Release is fun because the things in later stories recontextualize earlier writings.

[ruby knoll]

release order
and make sure to read the very important YA books

[topaz pier]

i just finished the fall of reach and am about to read the flood

[white birch]

Good.
Then First Strike, Ghosts of Onyx, and Contact Harvest, in that order

[topaz pier]

got it

[frail nacelle]

are servers down for halo mcc?

im just trying to play halo ce campaign with my boyfriend

[coarse dagger]

https://vxtwitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1751746495379132522?t=4XtyE_B9w8YAWV2fo4OMYg&s=19

[glacial tartan]

Yes @frail nacelle no ETA

[jaunty gulch]

Hey guys, when they fix the servers by T.M.C.C?

[brave urchin]

I hated H2's campaign for multiple reasons, I got it during midnight release, it was awful for me personally.

[brave urchin]

I also didn't appreciate how they made the interior levels more open, yet the outdoor areas more closed up.

I also had issues with the narrative etc.
I feel Halo 3 redeemed all of this though

[reef swan]

Hey, is anyone else unable to invite friends to their lobby?

I cant invite my friends whether they are on steam or xbox

[jaunty gulch]

Me too

[slim flint]

if it’s not just a today thing, I usually have to send like 20 invites before they finally get one

[reef swan]

not me

Before that I could just send an invite and play. Even yesterday. But not its just we cant join the lobbies

[thorn sierra]

note; if you don't wanna read a lot or just don't care about this just dont open the spoiled message, its just me yapping about something nostalgia ||I and my family used to play a lot of halo, mostly my cousins and male members of the family were interested in the game, me and my cousin would play halo reach together and watch the halo 3 cutscenes with my dad||

[brave urchin]

Nice memories those must be

[crystal iron]

Apperently the servers were down.

Honestly I keep saying it, when we are days from a new season they servers get wonky.

Probably just changed being done in the background

[silk solar]

Is mcc still down

[acoustic axle]

Hey all, late to the party but I started Infinite yesterday, and the first impresions are, super awesome! Feels like finally Halo has gone back to its roots

[zealous panther]

Too bad this is not a br so no more massive popularity like before

[left snow]

Welcome. Enjoy.

[junior pagoda]

No one plays lone wolves 😦

[crystal iron]

rip

[left snow]

Hopefully the upcoming Match Composer makes some of the smaller playlists a bit easier to get games in.

[crystal iron]

fr

Heres a question…
Team Spartan or Team Helljumper? (Vote with emoji’s below for reply or typing :D)

[crystal iron]

(Me personally I’m team Helljumper)

1 more day till JEROME TIME!!!!

I await the sweet embrace of mk4 and crosscore shoulders for muh perfect odst core

[crystal iron]

now i havent played pvp in halo infinite since lone wolf release, is the new DMR come with the scope by default in multiplayer or not?

[zealous panther]

In ranked with. In social usually not.

[crystal iron]

ah ok

[zealous panther]

I still dislike how it have no kick and is practically laserbeam with perfect accuracy when you have something like commando that have no reason to use at all now

[crystal iron]

they still havent buffed the commando?

mind you i havent played since Lone Wolf so

[zealous panther]

It has it uses before EVO. Rn I don't see any reason to use it in any situation

In ranked

[crystal iron]

oh

its the 29th so SoF update comes out today 😄

[zealous panther]

Tomorrow I think

[crystal iron]

i miss my cosmetics

oh

well will see i guess

[coarse dagger]

Tomorrow
#announcements message

[crystal iron]

bah

well its only 1 more day 🙂

hoping we get a cinematic trailer ngl

[zealous panther]

The sad thing is the new operation will be filled with useless stuff again, probably.

But I do want this sweet ar so I will buy it.

[crystal iron]

same

[frosty condor]

[zealous panther]

Like. It will be 4 xp boosts, and 6 emblems or something

What a joke

[crystal iron]

i just hope today trailer on youtube gives us, like the seasons trailers, more lore even if the video is short

[zealous panther]

There is no seasons anymore. It will be short video with the operation pass, showing off the map and the new core.

[crystal iron]

i also want halo wars 2 on steam ngl, one of my favorite recent halo games

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/9aV4pIIz2p8?t=703

[crystal iron]

wait so people are going to watch a cut together, NON-cinematic trailer, when they already showed us everything on twitch ..... 👀

[coarse dagger]

Timestamped for the operation items

[crystal iron]

i legit thought this video was going to be a cgi cinematic, guess no point since i saw everything on twitch

also ty for the time stamp, but like i said saw it already

[zealous panther]

Ha, 4 xp boosts, 2 charms, and 5 pictures

[crystal iron]

but i am happy to use the ‎MA5C again, so you got my $5 lol

[zealous panther]

True. This skin worth 5 bucks in my eyes easily

[crystal iron]

tho my favorite AR variant is halo 5s

but eh

[zealous panther]

Anyway the operation 20 tiers is a joke, a bad joke. Just like 2 previous operations

[crystal iron]

from what ive been hearing too since Operations are here to stay, no more seasons, so sadly i got only whos left even active in Infinite or wait for a new halo game, i dont care for MCC to much at all unless i want to replay all the story

[zealous panther]

I have more hours in mcc then in infinite, and not counting hours I played old games before. Tho comparing them to infinite is not fair and I like infinite gameplay waaaaaaay more

But I just frustrated that after season with a lot of events and overall a lot of good stuff we get this season with operations where we basically get less stuff

[crystal iron]

well id be more active in MCC but there 2 things holding me back

1. i have no friends
2. i lost my OG xbox account to my own stupidity so all my progress is gone

[zealous panther]

And now there is no more seasons at all and operations provided less content then old events

It is just depressing

[crystal iron]

i kinda wish they made more side story games like ODST, imagine a contact harvest game where you play as Johnson

or they could have not scrapped halo wars 3

but eh marketing lol

miss the old day when video game devs made games for fun, not ratings and sales but oh well

i still remember facing Bungie on last day of halo 2 multiplayer

the guy(forget his name) that made the unsc rocket luncher was very good at using it xD

[tepid latch]

I didn't know how much Id be excited to get it until I had it, but I just got enough Rewards Points to get the CE Chief and right before he left the store

plus enough CR left over to buy the Spirit of Fire pass to get the Evolved AR

[crystal iron]

question on that, is the SoF pass 1000 or 500?

[tepid latch]

500

[crystal iron]

oh good

[tepid latch]

afaik all operations will be 500 since at that point you're really only paying for it to be perm and the bonus item

and its only 20 tiers

[crystal iron]

fair

im glad its only 20 tiers too but i wish i could make XP out of pvp tbh

[tepid latch]

if you dont do it already, id totally suggest getting setup with microsoft rewards points! that makes getting CR much less spency

[crystal iron]

let me check on how many points i have

[tepid latch]

you can get XP in Firefight too

or do you mean Custom games?

[crystal iron]

ya but only a max all time 7500

[tepid latch]

that cant be right?

isnt that Career rank?

[slim niche]

me happy that Spartan-4s are consenting adults

[crystal iron]

thats in custom firefight

also i got 260 reward points

how thou i spend? lol

[slim niche]

@tepid latch get ready for a five hour Lore rant

[tepid latch]

you'll need more than that, https://rewards.bing.com/redeem go here and you can see how many points you need to get gift cards and stuff

[slim niche]

No, I’ll boil it down to a couple seconds

[crystal iron]

ah ok ty

[tepid latch]

if you use Bing (which isnt as bad as people say) and complete the little tasks it has every day it racks up pretty quickly

[slim niche]

Will Spartan twos were kidnapped children, sport in threes were consenting children, Spartan fours are consenting adults

[crystal iron]

am i buying xbox gift cards?

[tepid latch]

thats what I do, but you can straight up get game pass too, some people i've seen pretty much only pay for game pass with rewards points

[crystal iron]

I wonder if the sanghelli know of human history specifically the samurai and their customs...

[crystal iron]

i mean, i already beat halo infinite story for $1 LOL

gotto love game pass sales

[tepid latch]

There really hasnt been enough time in the universe I dont think for there to be that depth of transfer of history? its only been 7 years since the end of the war and there's still interplanetary wars going on on both sides

id say there's likely a handful of sanghelli that would know and study, but i cant imagine a lot of them know

[crystal iron]

to bad Infinite never got spartan ops, that was my favorite thing in halo 4

[remote scarab]

but they are more frequent, and most of the content is free. At least imo, you gotta look at it from a seasonal perspective, every 3 - 4 months there'd be a new season (sometimes longer) and most of the time, a lot of the items in the pass were the same coating just for different weapons/vehicles. Realistically, you only really use like 30 tiers of items from the pass regardless, so them cutting down on filler is perfectly fine. If this was a few seasons ago, the multi-core coatings would be like 10 tiers worth of items already. At least imo, whilst yes it is less, it's actually more in terms of what you're getting. A free set of armor with a completely different aesthetic and a bunch of bonus stuff like weapon models/camos every month or so is WAY more content, not to mention that in 3 months you'll be getting 60 tiers of content, whereas season 5's pass was also 3 months and only had 50 tiers. You are actually getting more

It may just be me but I feel 3 differently themed 20 tier passes is way better than one 50 tier one

[zealous panther]

In previous season we get more stuff through events then in this season through operations. We literally getting less for the longer periods

[tepid latch]

real, woulda loved to play my spartan in dev made extra campaign missions

[crystal iron]

same

tho i need to get more armor pieces again man it sucks losing my OG account

[remote scarab]

I agree, but I feel they're now able to roll events into these passes, I would imagine they're going to drop new modes alongside the yappening pass and such, so really we're basically getting a similar amount of content in a different package. Yes, I do think the old model had a lot of merit to it, but now we're going to be getting a pass pretty much monthly, with genuinely exciting and fresh items in it, and imo that's better than a 50 or 100 tier pass which mainly contains repeating items, xp boosts, challenge swaps and emblems

Regardless, most people literally just use the helmets, shoulders and models from battle passes anyway so they're just cutting out most of the grind

[zealous panther]

They already showed 3 new operations and this is kinda laughable. It is literally 4 xp boosts per pass 5-6 pictures and the rest. I'm sorry, but xp boosts and backdrops is completely worthless

[remote scarab]

They were in the battle passes too though, I recently completed season 3's battle pass and I was really frustrated with the same coating being in like 10 different tiers of the pass, just for different weapons. Essentially they're just rolling what would be 10 tiers into one. It may look like less content, but the bang for your buck is more than there, not to mention the 4 weekly challenge rewards you can also earn. I feel like the content is more engaging, at least in my opinion, I'm way way way more interested in the Yappening helmet than I would be for like, a season 4 helmet or something

The armor is the most essential part for most people, so really they're just giving away a free set of armor along with bonus stuff every month or so

and applying that to seasons, most battle passes contained 3 - 4 sets of armor

so it is the same amount of cosmetic content that people actually use

[zealous panther]

Oh my message was deleted because of some word. Oh well. Enjoy your less content I guess

[coarse dagger]

Just to clarify, in case this isn't known, you only need to purchase Operation passes going forward if: the event ended or you want to complete it after it finishes, you want the bonus cosmetic item.
Operations are free during the time they are active

[remote scarab]

It isn't less but I respect your opinion, though I will agree it is marketed in a way that makes it less like, woah!

Seasons will always be more exciting to the audience but operations are literally just more engaging and give much more interesting rewards

[zealous panther]

Yeah. I must admit tha ability to purchase after as a cheap bundle is pretty cool

[remote scarab]

not to mention as stckr said, the passes are free

i think the trade offs are fair even if we are getting marginally less content, it's more meaningful and 90% of it is free

[zealous panther]

No, you don't understand. It is literally less. I have somewhere excel sheet. It is literally less. It is not an opinion.

[remote scarab]

I definitely agree it's less in terms of like actual tangible content, my argument is mainly based on like, what do people actually use, and I think of the seasonal model of a battle pass with 3 - 4 sets of armor, 3 - 4 months, and that hasn't really changed, there's still a set of armor every month essentially, and that's what most people care about I feel

plus with the occasional weapon model or something thrown in

[zealous panther]

I don't really need much. And usually I am more for the quality over quantity.

But at the same time the content in the operations was nonexistent. No connected gamemodes, or something, even items so far kinda not matched the theme. Well one of them matched one didn't.

[crystal iron]

That is a shame I'm sure they would find their similarities interesting

[weary trout]

i do somewhat agree with tombeg with it, but when cross core gets completely get added, i dont really need so many customization additions and more sandbox items like weapons, vehicles and so on.

[tepid latch]

Thats just how I would interperate all that has happened in universe so far, but who knows, its the 2500s after all, maybe knowledge will move faster by then

[weary trout]

i think theyre still recoding the engine too.

[remote scarab]

That's what I hope changes, I would love for a grunt themed firefight mode to drop alongside yappening, and for that to be the norm, so that we get a month of themed content both cosmetically and modes-wise. It opens up the opportunity to do like, a medieval themed operations pass, and have a new playlist with all the cool medieval maps that forgers have made

[zealous panther]

They can make easily grunt only firefight or something

[crystal iron]

ok ty

[remote scarab]

I just think infinite needs more rotational playlists and more fresh modes, even if it's simple stuff like oh we disabled sprint for a classic playlist or we made a playlist of covenant themed maps or something

[weary trout]

alot of forge maps get added into map rotations

[remote scarab]

i mean more like, specifically themed, so for example like I said, a medieval themed pass that comes with a playlist of medieval forge maps, it'd be so fun

[zealous panther]

I just want one list with all maps and modes in it, so I can play whatever game give me

[remote scarab]

you could even have open forge competitions, so like say hey guys we want you to make a covenant map, or a remake map, or a tenrai map, and then the best ones get put in a playlist for a month and rotated out

imagine how cool and fresh that'd keep the rotation, you'd see new stuff every week and it keeps the community engaged

plus with more work going to forge, 343i can work on those sandbox items to drop every few months

imo that's the perfect formula for what they're currently working with and the model they're aiming at

[zealous panther]

At this point I have no hopes. I still like the game and I still have 3500 on my balance, but I don't believe in the future for some reason. In other games seasons usually a reason to comeback and grind, here is like... 2 weeks max and for mostly things I don't care about

[remote scarab]

I just think the general mindset on the franchise is negative rn, mostly from people that don't even play the game, and it just rubs off on everything

if the sentiment was more positive, I can guarantee you more people would get on and enjoy themselves every day, but rn it feels like actually enjoying the game or the franchise in general is seen as a bad thing

Trust me, halo has been on rocky ground for years for many reasons, but when the devs are actually trying to fix the game and they're working on interesting stuff, I'm gonna support that wholeheartedly because I wanna see the game succeed

I feel like a lot of people are still stuck in the 2021 mindset of just mindless hate, whilst contributing nothing meaningful beyond "halo bad haha"

These people have zero intention to play the game or engage with the series in any positive way, so they can keep farming their twitter clout, I'll keep enjoying the game because it's actually really good

This is most likely why 343i are working a new halo title, they know with Infinite, no matter how good they make it, that sour taste is still stuck in people's mouths, and the sentiment around the game isn't going to change so drastically that people will take it seriously, and that's unfortunate

[crystal iron]

F all blue colored visors are vaulted or locked deep in passes 😦

[rich zealot]

So am I supposed to buy the perma access to the Reckoning Season right now somehow or will I get the option to when the new update drops?

[crystal iron]

seems the update is tomorrow, and since i just quit playing several game for a bunch of reasons, might as well just relax today

[coarse dagger]

You can purchase previous seasons at any point

[analog salmon]

Sir this is a Wendy's

[crystal iron]

hey look a PS troll, fun fact consoles are jsut limited PCs so uh, why argue over who has better console when PC master race? 😛

[livid trench]

This is a halo server

[smoky wave]

This looks like a copypasta lol

[crystal iron]

and a bot

[knotty ermine]

Do we know if ranks reset tomorrow? Or with the launch of no seasons will ranks stay as it is indefinitely?

This caught my interest. But imagine Microsoft developing CPUs and graphic cards for PC. Could be a very interesting competition for nvidia

[analog salmon]

we dont know if it will reset tomorrow but resets will still happen

[knotty ermine]

Wish we had confirmation

[glacial tartan]

Of the exact date or that they are happening?

[analog salmon]

might be that they just dont wanna be exact about when resets will happen but I'd guess it will be relatively soon if not tommorrow

[knotty ermine]

Wait.. you guys misread me

[crystal iron]

What's the weekly ultimate

[weary trout]

a chess piece

[crystal iron]

Oh ok, I'll just wait till reset.. cus it's almost Jerome time

[glacial tartan]

You can ask again / restate 😄

[topaz tartan]

how many more hours we got until Mark IV?

[crystal iron]

Around 31 more hours

[topaz tartan]

damn. 31st for me then, and that is a schedule conflict.

and a real big one at that.

[crystal iron]

Dang, Yea I won't be home till around 4pm my time of that day so.

But once I am It's JEROME TIME

[topaz tartan]

YEAAAAAAAH

Really hope they give a cadet olive with red stripe

[knotty ermine]

The rank. Does it restart on the next update this it's the next major update?

[topaz tartan]

most likely.

[glacial tartan]

Your competitive rank will reset at some point. 343 have not confirmed when, only that it will reset. Edit: Source https://i.imgur.com/Z4llNJB.png

[knotty ermine]

Ty

Worrying they don't want to disclose information on when though but assuming they haven't confirmed means they will let us know when it happens and not suddenly waste some people's time

[idle rampart]

it would be weird for them to reset ranks immediately since snipers is still in rotation for another week

though anything could happen

[zealous panther]

i don't know about mindset. I don't have any socials and i don't watch youtubers or something. I just feel bad because i don't really like how it all turned out in the end.

[jagged crescent]

What is the best way to get bp xp

I'm new and really want that mk v helmet 👌

[open tinsel]

Honestly for new players it’ll be firefight, because that’s the mode with the highest win rates, and each completed objective grants you additional xp.

[jagged crescent]

thank you

[stark fractal]

We have cat ears but where’s the crab helmet? 🦀

[civic sundial]

No need for a crab helmet if we're secretly Spartan suits piloted by crabs

[open tinsel]

Just a bit of additional advice, try using the Bandit evo and Mangler, both are semi-auto high per shot damage weapons ideal for headshots, which makes killing high score value enemies like elites and brutes much easier.

[jagged crescent]

Gotcha

Oh btw I noticed there is a legendary version. Does that give more xp?

[rotund zenith]

Personally prefer the br especially when the waves get busy but sometimes you gotta fight your teammates for the spawns

[open tinsel]

As far as I can tell, the only advantage is more brutes/elites spawning which gives you a higher potential to earn more career rank xp(which is different from bp xp). You might get a little more xp but the extra difficulty probably isn’t worth it, especially if your new(and god help you if you happen to get a thunderstorm skull).

Really you should stick with regular for an easier and far less stressful time.

[open tinsel]

If they’re just going for bp xp, team fighting for spawns shouldn’t be an issue. The br is great if you can consistently line up headshots, but the issue is the higher potential to miss shots and waste ammo, especially when dealing with things like skimmers in cqc.

[worn iron]

BR absolutely erases enemies in FF, love using it. The Bandit is a great weapon for dealing with shielded enemies, but ammo is difficult to find since it's not on most maps without ammo crates

My favorite loadout for Regular/Heroic FF is Commando + BR, or Commando + SPNKR. On Legendary, I usually stick with Commando and Sidekick.

[rotund zenith]

Br plus a gravhammer for the maps it spawns naturally

Perfection

[crystal iron]

Hello everyone

would anyone like to join a new campaign with me?

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[zealous panther]

haha, even they showing only nice stuff from "20" tiers pass at the end

end even then 1 item is premium and other is a charm hahaha

Also weapon camo is just another grey

[tulip tusk]

i wish something like a new vehicle or gun would come that stuff is exciting and can change the game a lot. for cu29 the main cool thing for me is the halo wars armor and forge additions

[civic sundial]

Well since updates are gonna be more frequent, here's hoping the next few give us some weapons and vehicles

[open umbra]

After this operation, the two mainline armour cores aren't in this game are MK. 6 Gen. 1 (H3) and Gen. 2 (post H3 ~ H5).
And the missing armour pieces are Operator, AKIS 1, and Mariner(mr. chief one) for helmets, and Orion armor set (maybe as kits like MK. 5).

I thought they would show which community maps will be added into BTB, Squad Battle etc.

[civic sundial]

I honestly don't think we're gonna see a Gen 1 Mark VI added since the Mark VI kit is representing full Mark VI already

[open umbra]

So they can add H3 style armor pieces except Hayabusa to MK. 7?

[open tinsel]

The only other thing I can really think of them possibly adding is helljumper or hunter from 5, and if they do they’ll likely be kits not cores(I’m suggesting we might eventually get a fireteam Osiris themed operation)

They’ve already released throwback events for almost every other Halo game at this point so I don’t see why they won’t eventually resort to 5.

[civic sundial]

Gen II deserves its own core, Osiris' armour being kits for it would be nice to see

[open umbra]

Well the Gen2 cosmetic may need some work to fit infinite style though. (Fotus, Wetwork, Helioskrill, and and Achilles also have nice designs)

[open tinsel]

Infinite’s been pretty innovative when it comes to reformatting aesthetics when reimagining armor from other games thus far, I have no doubt they’ll make it work.

[open umbra]

As for modes, VIP and Juggernaut are the two modes I personally want them to give us some update. Since those mode were either mentioned or presented in prior livestreams. (VIP was mentioned in S3, and Juggernaut was presented in the forge scripting showcase in S2)

Assault, Grifball and Action Sack maybe, but I didn't heard them mentioned those yet (Zack did mention about the Action Sack playlist on twitter before, but since he doesn't work in 343 now, I don't have any hope on that. Also, leaks don't count).

[civic sundial]

I'd argue they don't need to rework how Gen II looks. Especially since part of why I want Gen II there is because it's different to the armour we have in Infinite already

[analog salmon]

im in the boat that it looks distinct because its a different art style, makes more sense then radically changing and then changingg back

so i'd say bringing those armour's back requires a big rework

pretty much everything else has been adapted to Infinite's art style

[open tinsel]

I want a new Firefight mode(preferably something chaotic like 8 player warzone from 5, but honestly I’ll take anything, KoTH can start to get real repetitive after a while)

[open umbra]

Yeah, need classic firefight, firefight objectives and generator defense mix into the playlist.

[open tinsel]

I keep on seeing clips of custom btb firefights but I have no idea how to access those lobbies…

[open umbra]

Either bookmark the map and mode then host it yourself (set your lobby to public) or find it in CGB.

My Xbox one couldn't handle the power of 32 AIs, the game gets so laggy sometimes even when I was the one hosting the custom game.

[civic sundial]

If you're gonna completely redesign it to not look like Gen II, then it's not going to be Gen II. I know some of the Gen II armours have returned in Infinite but those are Gen III versions

[analog salmon]

I mean we seen Gen 1 MJOLNIR in Reach, we see Gen 3 MJOLNIR in Infinite. Both games have a somewhat similar art style. Everything else from Reach to 4/5 to Infinite as changed somewhat. The armour changing wouldn't invalidate what it is.

ultimately they could go whatever direction they feel works. obviously some 4/5 designs are still in Infinite and work okay

in my head canon John's armour never visually changes much and everything else would follow that

[civic sundial]

I'm just saying, if we get a core that is Gen II, it'd make no sense to completely redesign what Gen II looks like just because it's visually different to the other generations of Mjolnir

[analog salmon]

John was visually different too but that makes no logical sense since he was on a spaceship forzen. I suspect they just wont do a Gen 2 core to avoid having to address that dilemma. Rather make Gen 3 armour inspired by Gen 2 designs

[onyx latch]

We already know GEN2 exists in its 4/5 appearance in Infinite's time frame due to Locke's armor and WoG from a question I asked months ago for a canon fodder.

Chief's armor now has nothing to do with the false dilemma you posit-we literally saw parts of its manufacturing process. We know Chief got issued it, there's no off screen artstyle handwave that needed to be addressed. GEN2 looks as GEN2 always has.

Would they need to change parts of it? Maybe. But it'd mostly be changes made to facilitate Infinite's core system or to satisfy design reqs. Lore considerations are nil to none.

[analog salmon]

idk how John got issued armour he woke up wearing but okay

every single visualisation you see has an artistic take on it

until you see halo 5 armour literally in Infinite, you can't "know" what it looks like in Infinite's art style

[civic sundial]

Hunter class Mjolnir on Hyperous' shoulder

[analog salmon]

something published today isn't inherently in the same art style as the current game

[onyx latch]

I mean, you literally do, in the game. It's right there on Hyperius.

[onyx latch]

Also, Infinite was in Mark VI GEN3 when he got his lights knocked out by Atriox, not Mark VI MOD GEN2.

I think you're confusing which Halo I am referring to here.

[analog salmon]

he woke up wearing his 4/5 armour looking like its Gen 2 variant before it was even Gen 2 yet

in Halo 4

or are we still going by nano machines completely redesigning armour while the guy's in cryo?

[analog salmon]

i mean yeah, there's many aspects of halo 5 art pretty much unchanged in Infinite

[civic sundial]

Wait, have I been spelling Hyperius' name wrong this entire time? I guess I'm due fighting him again

[onyx latch]

The nano machines was an off the hip explanation done at a panel because it originated as a simple art style change. It eventually got more properly canonized. Either way, it's dumb to get hung up on, because by 5 he's in GEN2, when in 4 he's in GEN1 MOD.

In Infinite, Chief and some Spartans are given fresh new duds, but we know GEN2 hasn't had its aesthetic changed due to Hyperius' decor as well as the odd lore blurbs from the GEN2 era of armor.

[analog salmon]

i dont think its getting hung up on it to explain a lot of visual differences from 3/Reach to 4/5 to Infinite as art style changes. I think it's quite the opposite of getting hung up on it actually.

[median fern]

I’m just now realizing that in the Echoes Within battle pass, the “Beta Company” emblem is the same Beta Company that got wiped out in the opening scene of the book Ghosts of Onyx, they wore the SPI Armor (Mirage IIC armor core)

RIP

[analog salmon]

its basically just not trying to explain something that we all know is artists taking a different direction

[onyx latch]

Except we do actually know that GEN2 exists as it looked in 4/5 and there's no indicator that that's changed.

Which is why it shouldn't change for Infinite.

[analog salmon]

but Gen 1 didnt look like that?

so you are saying Halo 5 properly depicted Chief but Halo 4 didn't?
logic here is just lost on me completely

the whole entire universe looks different, the Dawn is completely different and then had to get retconned as a new Frigate design

[onyx latch]

I'll try to explain it in even more simple terms I guess.

4, the canon explanation for the new duds is based off of an old IV variant after Cortana modified it in cryo via nanites. Like it or not, it's what happened.

5, the canon explanation for the lack of changes is simply an upgen modification of the GEN1 nanite-altered refresh.

Both are properly depicted, due to the rationale noted. GEN1 as it existed in 3, 2, CE, Reach, is unaltered.

[analog salmon]

So the Dawn just magically changes from one type of frigate to another?

[onyx latch]

No.

The Dawn is a continuity snarl visually alone, the armor isn't.

It's still the same ship, but the 4 depiction of the ship is inaccurate.

[analog salmon]

i dont think Gen 1 """MOD"""" is any better justified

[onyx latch]

That's good for you, but it's in writing as being the answer for the ship and not the armor.

Like, it doesn't matter how you feel about it, it's the explanation you are given.

You're disliking an objectively stated clarification for the situation, not my opinion on the subject.

[civic sundial]

Dawn's appearance in Halo 4 is different because it meant they could design a proper level inside it since the original size of the Dawn would've been too small to fit a level inside

[analog salmon]

there's nothing really objective about saying Gen 2 armour should look the same in Infinite's art style lol

just like there's nothing objective about saying Gen 1 MOD's visual differences represent actual physical changes to John's armour

it's a video game depicted by artists who change their mind

[onyx latch]

Except there is literally objective statements about that being the case due to people complaining. It is a real, tangible change in-universe.

[civic sundial]

So by your logic I could say that Chief wore the Mark V Alpha from Halo 5 during the events of CE?

[median fern]

It’s literally just two different artist interpretations of the same fictional thing, it’s not that deep imo

[onyx latch]

For the ship, kind of. For the armor, it is literally expressly stated that the armor changed between 3/4.

[civic sundial]

Or that Red Team wore the FUD style Mark IV in Halo Wars 2? Despite the fact we know those are different iterations of Mark IV

[onyx latch]

It's the explanation for the visual change for the suit and the suit alone. The weapons and the ship are changes made for the game visually, because of the difficulties of building new weapon and ship models for explicitly one situation while the studio was in a time crunch.

[analog salmon]

im gonna just agree to disagree here, there's nothing objective about it. Artists approach things in different ways. the main goal will always be to offer a visually coherent game, and not consistency between games. it really is not that deep.

[onyx latch]

And yet, you're the one rejecting the literal and direct explanations for the situation presented by the company that did the work.

[analog salmon]

"by the company" okay brudda, its a fictional universe, what one developer says is not gospel

[onyx latch]

I mean, when it's their IP, it kinda is.

[median fern]

John Halo looks handsome in anything he wears 💪

[analog salmon]

one statement cannot explain the logic of an entire art team lol

[onyx latch]

And yet it was the explanation provided, whether you like it or not. Your own opinion has even less of a pedigree on the subject.

[analog salmon]

it does not matter at all. You sound like you're gonna feel betrayed if Gen 2 is dipicted differently then 4/5. in reality nothing about the art direction of a video game is that deep

i dont really understand having such a strong opinion on this when nano machines is the basis of your armour having continunity since halo 3

a whole ship can change but nope, nano machines explains the armour

[onyx latch]

I mean, if they radically changed GEN1 Mark Vb for Infinite, would you have felt betrayed?

[analog salmon]

not at all lol

[onyx latch]

Then that's a weird opinion to me.

[civic sundial]

The point I was trying to make is that if we get a core based around Gen II, I would hope it would look like Gen II instead of something else

[onyx latch]

And one that I know for a fact isn't common, lmao.

[analog salmon]

i have zero issue with Gen 1 Mark 6 or the entire Dawn being changed for artistic reasons. I dont even really have a strong opioion on the art style changes under 343

i like reach's art style so its cool they took inspiration from it for infinite but i wouldnt have minded if they didnt

[onyx latch]

My opinion on it isn't personal enough to say it'd be betrayal so much as extreme disappointment.

Mark Vb should look like Mark Vb. Mark IV should look like Mark IV. GEN2 should look like GEN2.

Concessions made to fit the model, but not the art style. Not that the two are actually as significantly different as is claimed, though.

MJOLNIR's the biggest gulf, but you also have clear differences in aesthetic tone across the gamut of existing cores; GEN2 wouldn't really breach the art style any more than Yoroi or Mirage IIC or Hazmat, particularly since it'd be using the proper shaders and paint regions and textures and whatnot.

[median fern]

Mirage IIC looks just as it should, as per the cover of Ghost of Onyx from way back in 2006

[onyx latch]

It actually has several significant differences from SPI, mostly in the wrists, legs, and chest.

It also has some helmets that are extremely outside of the standard design direction for 'canon' armors in Infinite, as does Hazmat, which is why Hazmat was the third example.

For example-Street Viper.

[median fern]

I think it looks cool and I appreciate the homage to my favorite book 😊

[rotund zenith]

Imagine if we'd gotten an ma5k cosmetic based on the same cover

[median fern]

I would go nuts for that tbh

[civic sundial]

I imagine the only reason they didn't was because it'd look visually similar to the BR from a distance

[median fern]

Yeah, I suppose 🤷‍♀️ I’m more than happy with the armor and beta company logo that I got out of it

[onyx latch]

Hydra moment

[civic sundial]

Yeah... Don't remind me, I miss the H5 look for the Hydra too

[median fern]

I miss the SMG and the SAW

[civic sundial]

I crave the SMG, I have said this already but I would be more than fine with them reusing Halo 5's design for the SMG if they bring it back for Infinite

[median fern]

I think a suppressed SMG would be dope.

Maybe if I’m lucky I’ll get an ODST themed operation at some point

[civic sundial]

I think we should get the standard and the suppressed SMG as a variant

Not sure we'll see an ODST operation as we have everything we need to cosplay as them in Infinite once tomorrow's update goes live

[rugged quartz]

More chests, shoulders, helmets

Call it, OPERATION ASLEEP ON THE JOB

[median fern]

I suppose. I’m sure they could come up with enough content to make it cool though.

Variant armor coatings, weapon skins, helmet attachments, armor emblems, etc

[rotund zenith]

Operation feet first into bed

[ocean atlas]

Hello all,

I’ve been watching a number of Halo Infinite YouTubers and I noticed that the reticle on their guns, especially the BR, is much smaller than the reticles on my guns.

I’ve asked a few people and they’ve all said it’s because they play on a higher FOV. I play on 120 FOV and my reticle is the same size as someone who plays on the default 78 FOV.

Does anyone know how to change this? Thanks!

[analog salmon]

resolution

its more the proportions then the size that change tho

if the size actually isnt changing relative to ur fov then change ur fov 1 degree and then back

[magic loom]

To me SPI looks lame in Infinite, sometimes need to squint my eyes to remind me its actually SPI still. The Halo 3 MCC one still stands as the best since its closer to its original design and did look awesome, just sad we didnt get the actual design.

[ruby lake]

i just like armor

its cool and i dont need to overthink it

[magic loom]

Hahaha only difference Mark 5 B has infinite is that is has less detail on some shoulders and some added ones from the concept which is super AWESOME

[magic loom]

Theres no overthinking, best way to please fans would of been to add maybe a gen1 version of SPI and hey lets have the Mirage one too. Nobody would complain about that since you get what you wanted

[ruby lake]

i already got what i wanted

[magic loom]

Awesome

[tranquil axle]

Really hoping they just slip the missing halo reach helmets into the game in this C.U.

[magic loom]

Haunted helmet and I think Pilot is still not in the game. Those fantasy helmets as well were not added yet

[tranquil axle]

Pilot, is in the game, Still missing :Haunted, Military Police, and i think operator

[civic sundial]

Haunted I can live without, would be nice for Operator, AKIS I and Mariner to be added though, especially the latter two given how we never got those in Reach until MCC

[magic loom]

When the GRD helmet got added I got excited,

I will say its not a helmet I like but I like the history behind it

[humble berry]

So are updates like this new one gonna be regular occurrences? like monthly or every few months? or just whenever

[civic sundial]

Aye, it's not my favourite in terms of design, but the unique legacy it has as being this helmet we only saw once in a screenshot, then teased for years via the dolls makes it truly unique

[magic loom]

I remember hunting the dolls on the Anniversary maps that was fun

[fading torrent]

hey guys someone have the map/mod for janga tower halo 3?

[worn iron]

Anyone know specifically when the operation becomes available? Is it midnight or sometime tomorrow?

[coarse dagger]

Usually around 6pm PST

[worn iron]

Thanks! Guess I have to wait until late tomorrow

[crystal iron]

Holy crud we are getting omega team customizations.... Ok that's a take my money moment

[silk solar]

What’s omega team

[crystal iron]

They are a Spartan 2 Fireteam, they appeared in a mission in Halo wars.

[silk solar]

Oh that looks sick

I thought halo wars armor was already confirmed though

[unique finch]

Is this really the 29th update to Halo Infinite? CU29? That’s a ton

[crystal iron]

Yeah but nobody expected omega team

Tommarow It's officially JEROME TIME

[worn iron]

ALL UNITS!

https://tenor.com/view/red-team-halo-halo-wars-gif-22616025

[crystal iron]

Sweet I gots my In N out 4x4 and ready to do a round of Firefight ...it's my cheat day meal

[slender bridge]

I’m so happy that omega team gets to be in infinite

They’re such underrated Spartans

(But not as much as Grey Team)

[crystal iron]

Grey team is in some next level awesomeness

[slender bridge]

Would be nice to have them return again since they’ve been out of contact for years

Once Mark IV releases, you can really have more access to customizing all the Spartan II’s(Minus Joshua 029 because operator ain’t out)

[crystal iron]

Well they did tech usually return but they are kinda serving a sort of Punishment for kinda destroying an entire Sanghelli world... But it was after the war ended... However they did not know...

[hidden arrow]

Does anyone know what time on the 30th the Mark IV is coming to infinite?

[crystal iron]

Well I'm In Cali and I believe it's around 11am my time.

[hidden arrow]

Im in central and cali is west coast or an hour behind me so I assume that means midnight?

1 hour 45 minutes?

I gotta say I am excited

[glacial tartan]

AM not PM? Maybe I missed the memo but midnight seems weird for the reset

[hidden arrow]

Pretty sure midnight since its the very start of the next day

Midnight 12 o'clock is am

[vale sentinel]

When's the new Halo season coming? Like what time?

[hidden arrow]

Not sure

You mean the movie series?

Or the Infinite season

My brain is now dead

[glacial tartan]

Seasons are gone - I assume CU29 comes out around the same time as the regular reset which I know is Tuesday midday but not sure the exact time because of daylight savings. Either Noon or 1PM EST.

[crystal iron]

11am... So for you it would be Noon on Tuesday

[hidden arrow]

Noon?

[glacial tartan]

About 12 hours from now

Because I’m out of the loop - has infinite ever done a release in the middle of the night

[crystal iron]

14 hours and 23 minutes till it's Jerome Time for me

[glacial tartan]

I don’t get the reference but I hope you enjoy it!

[hidden arrow]

Halo Wars introduced the Spartan IV armor with red team Jerome-092, Douglas-042, Alice-130 (Jerome was the team leader)

I wonder if they will add the Halo 4 Master Chief armor to infinite. They already Have the Halo Infinite Chief in multiplayer as well as the Combat Evolved armor and the MK IV coming out tomorrow

Might as well work toward the whole collection

[ruby knoll]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SB8xgLFeXGI

i feel like 5's in this is a bit quiet. Is that how it is ingame or is it just in this vid

[merry tendon]

infinite feel kinda laggy today to anyone?

[crystal iron]

Haven't played it today, Been on Palworld, but I noticed this happens when a new major update is coming

[worn iron]

Got my alarm set for 3pm tomorrow

[crystal iron]

I won't be on till like 4-430 pm, but once I am it's JEROME TIME

Honestly the MK7 should have exist been an upgraded version of the MK4 it would have looked so much better.

I'm just happy we get the MK4.

For what we next Halo game we get they should just give us a MK4;upgrade with all the armor peices from infinite

[halcyon violet]

So, what's next on Cross-Core customization? Gloves? Knee Pads? Helmet Attachments? Chest Pieces? Utility's?

[crystal iron]

I'm hoping chest or wrist. Hopefully more than 1 thing though maybe we get all of those

[zealous panther]

Gloves must be the easiest to implement because... Come on.
Utility in most cases is just some random piece on the left leg so should be easy too. Helmet attachments already partially implemented tho

[crystal iron]

Yea most of the cores use the same hand dimensions so I don't see gloves being to complicated.

Wrist and knee pads either

[civic sundial]

Some wrist attachments are modelled specifically around the core it's from, same with hip attachments

[crystal iron]

does anyone know if there is a all indoor UNSC ship or base firefight map?

id make it myself but holy hell forge is complicated now

[crystal iron]

Theoretically what’s stopping Spartans from just running through enemy combatants and turning them into paste via sheer mass + speed?

[civic sundial]

Being shot, their shields are good but don't protect them forever

[crystal iron]

Against plasma-based weapons that’s a legitimate concern. But bullets AFAIK almost do nothing to Spartans unless they’re .50 caliber.

[civic sundial]

True but that doesn't change the fact that shields don't last forever

[crystal iron]

Even unshielded Spartan armor is incredibly durable against most rounds.

[civic sundial]

You don't need to take me every time in the middle of the conversation

And it doesn't matter if the armour is durable. It's not practical to be letting it get hit constantly

[crystal iron]

Counter-point: A Spartan bull-rushing through a bunch of enemies like bowling pins would look funny.

[jagged crescent]

Can bp challenges be completed in firefight?

Or can you only progress in PvP

[civic sundial]

Most can be completed in Firefight

[topaz tartan]

mere hours

[velvet dirge]

When firefight was introduced they changed them so most if not all could be completed there, yeah

[crystal iron]

Hey I saw a post on Twitter that the New MK4 is already out and the stuff is changed over,, I'm not at home but can someone. Confirm for me plz

[topaz tartan]

nuh uh, not for me

[sullen owl]

I saw a post on Twitter that 343 is removing Halo from the Xbox store and Steam and is instead going to release it exclusively on Ouya. It's on Twitter so it must be true.

[jagged crescent]

Will infinite be the first halo to have the mark 4 (other than halo wars)

[topaz tartan]

think halo 5 had it

[jagged crescent]

Oh I’ve not played that one

[crystal iron]

Not sure if you noticed but I asked if someone could check, cus 343 has sort of let stuff slip a bit early, like the HCS coatings things.

[sullen owl]

If you're not home, what good would it do to know though?

[crystal iron]

Cus I will be home in an hour or so..
and I prefer to know ahead of time if I can... Doesn't hurt to ask

[topaz tartan]

Something ot be excited to go home to? You never been a kid before?

[sullen owl]

It's painful, you're hurting me.

The update will be in ~5.5 hours.

[crystal iron]

That sounds like a you problem

[sullen owl]

More pain.

[crystal iron]

That's cool

[topaz tartan]

you lads can be happy having it happen over the span of the same day. It updates at 2AM for me. Then I have to go back to school until 3PM.

[crystal iron]

Still bummed we got MK IV and SPI as Cores before MK VI.

But maybe in a future update. I prefer how a lot of the armor sets look in Halo 3 compared to Reach.

[sullen owl]

Once they add the HRUNTING/YGGDRASIL Mark II as an armor core we'll be in business.

[crystal iron]

Halo Legends was DUMB

[topaz tartan]

dramatic gasp!

[sullen owl]

nuh uh

[crystal iron]

Most kino Halo media will always be the Blomkamp-directed commercials.

[sullen owl]

The operation has not yet launched and the armor core is not available as of yet. Took forever for Halo Infinite to load on PC. Fun playing with you though.

[crystal iron]

Why was it dumb

[crystal iron]

I can give you a whole list, but essentially it’s the Animatrix-style anthology approach with inconsistent quality control. The shorts format isn’t taken advantage of very well so a lot of plot lines feel very half-baked or require prior knowledge of Halo lore to fully understand, which is a bad approach to any form of adaptive media.

[crystal iron]

Wasn't the point of Halo legends for Halo fans who have prior knowledge to most of the lore

Ok heres the head cannon
Master Chief makes the ultimate sacrifice to complete the mission leaving behind blue team. But during the mission they run into red team and backed with some Spartan-IVs. There he passes the weapon(Cortana) to you to finish the fight and red team and blue team merges creating a six man fireteam like noble team. Or instead of the player finishing the fight he passes it to Jerome or Fred. If it was the player's spartan it involves you more into the story as the main character

[worn iron]

Nah, Halo 5 had it but the proportions were a bit goofy. This'll be the most faithful we get to the cutscenes

[crystal iron]

Bad writing is still bad writing, regardless if it was made with the fans who already have prior knowledge in mind.

Even then as well, from the perspective of somebody who’s been into Halo lore since the 2000s, there’s no real emotional payoff for a lot of the stories because they don’t give me any reason to care about the characters involved.

[crystal iron]

The episode with cal was one I actually enjoyed myself so for me it was a good show

[crystal iron]

What defines Cal as a character? Why should I care about her being whacked by a Brute? lawl

[sullen owl]

1337 was, and still is my favorite completely canon spartan.

[slim flint]

I can’t wait for his return

[crystal iron]

That was my second favorite episode

[sullen owl]

Editors Note: 1337 is non-canon.

[civic sundial]

I don't think we'll get a full Mark VI core with how they made a version of Mark VI an armour kit in the game for reaching hero rank

[onyx wind]

At what time is the season coming out?

[crystal iron]

I hope for the next game the default armor is inspired more from the MK4 and the chiefs campaign armor

[coarse dagger]

Next Operation will release somewhere around 10am or 11am PST

That's about 6pm or 7pm UK

[onyx wind]

Thanks

[crystal iron]

Which armor set is that?

[crystal iron]

The master Chiefs campaign one I believe

[civic sundial]

Aye, his campaign armour. It's a kit for the Mark VII that makes it look like how Chief does in campaign minus the 117 on his chest

[topaz tartan]

see you in 5 hours (if my alarm wakes me up)

[obtuse laurel]

so I was thinking about the Stanchion, and realized that we could make it shoot gauss rounds using weapon combos in forge.
but then I realized that there's no railgun or gauss cannon in infinite.
kinda made me realize just how cut down the arsenal is in that game.

[knotty ermine]

the moment this update drops. im playing on that halowars 2 terminus firefight map lol

[obtuse laurel]

genius

[knotty ermine]

unsc clans are going to eat good today

all those people with alice, jerome and douglas in their names are going to change that day 1 lmao

[obtuse laurel]

honestly I just watched Halo Legends the other day and I wanna get a team like The Babysitter going
3 ODSTs and a Mark IV

[knotty ermine]

if you guys check the shop. the time is on 3652 days which is 10 years. finally the 10 year plan begins

[rustic saffron]

Yeah wtf is up with that? My gf had the same problem

[knotty ermine]

for now im using it as a meme lmao

[rustic saffron]

Lmao, i wanted to use the shop timer to see when the new armor would drop but i guess 343 thought of that

[knotty ermine]

is update in 10 minutes or next hour?

[coarse dagger]

At least an hour away

[olive brook]

next hour

so excited for that sweet mark iv

[knotty ermine]

im going to host that halo wars map with my clan then were going to do odst pics. were not even a unsc clan. were just happy to see this stuff finally

hopefully next halo has these armor cores but instead of cores it's just a customization option like how you change a chest piece, you just pic armor core. like the master chief kit

[latent echo]

.>

I blame Uny and Sam they forgot to release the ice cream update with this one and Stckr to.

[worn iron]

[worn iron]

9 mins or so now?

[olive brook]

yes

[hidden arrow]

6 Minutes

5

4

3

2

1

Its jerome time!

[worn iron]

Updates are live on Microsoft Store

[civic sundial]

Downloading now

[grand sand]

when update on steam

[solid ingot]

Update inbound

[tawny helm]

is teh update out on steam?

[grand sand]

doesn't seem like it

[next shard]

it is not

[hidden arrow]

The mark 4 is its own seperate core right? Not a kit?

Just need to be sure

[next shard]

steam is always late to the party

[hidden arrow]

We know

lol

[civic sundial]

It's a core, full customisation

[hidden arrow]

Gotcha