#halo-discussion

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icy pelican
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the new helmet is... garbage tbh.

low musk
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I hope it comes out. But I do like the new Raksasha chest that came for the armor

sick egret
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Slayer on Breaker is so bad

olive brook
low musk
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On the last 3 challenges, which are thankfully easy. 3 grenade kills, 35 kills/assists, and complete six games. I can get that done in a few games

low musk
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Thankfully got my 3 grenade kills in one game. Stuck one dude, then got the others with a few strategic bounces. Now for a single game completion and its off to the capstone

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Do I need 1 Scoped Headshot? Some people say that despite what the challenge reads, that its actually 10

ocean gate
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Halo Infinites 2020 gameplay trailer had better graphics than infinite today, and the lighting was better

low musk
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So it was just one scoped kill with the S7. So I have the reward

coral flicker
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Hey... I have a question. As far as you know, does Halo MCC go on sale on Steam at all?

olive brook
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It’ll probably go on sale during that

coral flicker
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Ok cool

olive brook
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On the 21st iirc

mystic bone
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I dont have atrition game mode why

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Infinite

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I checked it was a limited game mode. No revive modes?

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Today

ashen hare
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sidekick on console is a machine of death
sidekick on pc feels like it has actual negative aim assist

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surely there is a middle ground between these

dusk thunder
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If so, this will help

teal temple
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anyone know if halo 2A BTB is completely dead or are there certain times when games can be found or what

prime summit
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man i rly hope we get to save armor presets, I have multiple mark V and rakshasa kits I like...

misty vale
scarlet shuttle
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So they are giving away the Crimson Fuel Visor on Twitch Drop right now, does it means they will also give the rest of the Mountain Dew Promotion as drops?

ocean gate
misty vale
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Do you want me to make fun of you more or? Are you on a rig with raytrace and stuff on anyhow

onyx latch
livid fable
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just got done with some reach firefight. got 206 headshots, 31 double kills, 22 pummels, 7 triple kills, 4 kill sprees, 4 frenzies, 3 running riots, 3 rampage, 3 untouchable, 3 laser kills, 3 beat downs, 3 needle kills, 3 emp, 3 assassin, 2 overkill, 2 invincible, 2 shotgun sprees, 2 open seasons, 2 stickies, 1 killtacular, 1 buck wild, 1 first strike, and a partridge in a pear treeeee

twin crag
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Imagine if they added a Halo 3 refuelled ranked 343pls

left snow
twin crag
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Lockout was also nice

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Narrows looked like a ranked ultra sweat fest from the mtn dew tourney

sand matrix
crystal iron
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winter contigency 3? what

signal ivy
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the operation/event

crystal iron
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Man that weekly challenges was easy

empty wolf
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quick question

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trying to setup something... does anyone know which map to use for scourge of the banished mode?

cinder eagle
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Didn’t realize how much people don’t like the scorn helmet

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Guess I’m in the minority

olive brook
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it just looks stupid imo

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i dont like it at all

young glen
cinder eagle
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I think it looks neat

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Not the best but definitely not the worst helmet

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That honor still goes to seeker from H5

Or pretty much any chimera helmet

twin crag
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It's kinda sad how everyone's favorite "CSR based ranked to improve ranked" is now ruining it with smurfs while not having any real improvement

misty vale
spiral mulch
twin crag
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Or merged into current ranked also ok

spiral mulch
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The amount of people ive seen describing the playlist as sweat matches is a bit worrisome

twin crag
spiral mulch
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Well good teammates for one

twin crag
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Ranked inherently requires sweat

twin crag
spiral mulch
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I think it’s a sbmm issue

twin crag
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Combination of maps and modes is not responsible for your team mate not knowing how to play the ball

twin crag
spiral mulch
twin crag
spiral mulch
twin crag
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Btw that includes me too

viral kayak
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Anybody else liked Halo 4's Promethan weapons? I found them interesting.

thorn bear
viral kayak
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Nah the Lightrifle was actually pretty good for a marksmen weapon.

thorn bear
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The best weapon H4 has to offer was the SAW. That badboy shreds! Not even gonna lie, H4 gets so much hate. To be honest, probably the best Halo they did (minus Halo Wars 2). This is obviously my opinion. In comparision to 5 and Inifninte, I will take the flaws of H4 over those two any day.

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When I say the best Halo they did, I am referring to 343 -- not overall.

viral kayak
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Eh, personally for me it would go Infinite, 4, then 5 for 343.

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The Magnum in 4 and 5 was SOLID.

thorn bear
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I actually dug the Magnum in 5. Thing was probably the best pistol since H1 -- this is all obviously my opinion. For 343 in order for me gotta be 4, Halo Wars 2, 5 then Infinite. I despise Infinite. Call me oldschool perhaps, just do not like the game at all.

ocean gate
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Why did 343 patent Halo: The Endless if they aren’t gonna make a DLC

thorn bear
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Why do we need to introduce another enemy already anyways? Like, the storyline with the intorduction of The Banished was already rapid and broken...

viral kayak
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Not even I would put Infinite last. Yeah monetization still exists in Infinite, but at least unlike 5 you don't have to buy booster packs in hope in getting what armor you want out of the random set you got.

thorn bear
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Instead you just have to buy a seasons pass to obtain armor sets... Both seem silly to me. Bring back Reach's system, that was where it was at!

spiral mulch
viral kayak
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Yeah but at least we still get what we want, unlike those booster packs from 5. Yeah I wish they would go back to how it was for Reach but they can't due to the Microsoft execs. At least 343 is trying to make up for that by slowly adding crosscore for all armor cores. Personally I want to be able to make custom armor coatings.

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Anyways, we only got like, three forerunner weapons in Infinite. I think adding a few more would be a good idea.

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Sentinel Beam requires accuracy but it kills quickly. Cindershot explodes once it hits the ground and has a secondary scope tracking mode. Heatwave can ricochet off surfaces and can switch between verticle and horizonal modes.

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I think having a forerunner marksmen weapon that also has the ability to pierce and hit a secondary target would be interesting.

onyx latch
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Ugh.

coarse dagger
onyx latch
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It's always Reach, Reach, Reach. I don't get why people are so afraid of challenge/accolade-based unlocks like 4.

covert bobcat
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a power shotgun would be really cool (maybe banished since they have 1 non-melee power item)

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skewer but a shotgun maybe

onyx latch
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Discussion of leaks is prohibited.

covert bobcat
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More heavy weapons would be awesome

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I think it’s only the warthog gun and plasma cannon

viral kayak
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There is also the banished one.

covert bobcat
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is that not the plasma cannon

covert bobcat
karmic oriole
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So how am I supposed to play a game of big team when 3 people leave and 2 aren't playing

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12v7 btw

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Someone please inform me, maybe I'm missing something

misty vale
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Get in da wasp brotha

onyx latch
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It's chaingun, plasma turret, and scrap cannon

covert bobcat
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oh yeah I forgot the scrap wasn’t the warthog gum

radiant sundial
white birch
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Get sick frag clips. Put em on YouTube.

thorn bear
steel pike
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Can anyone tell me where I can find a scrap cannon in the overworld

agile cobalt
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yk what, i just played a match that had 5 people out of 8 as bronze cadets.

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im a lietenant in plat

neon vapor
agile cobalt
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Your missing the point.

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I have over 1k matches, they mostlikely have like 10, it's okay to be a new to a game, we all were.

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Why the hell are they in my lobby? It's not fair for them nor me

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I carried the team with 39 kills, highest other player had 8

white birch
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Win/loss has something to do with it. If your W/L is high (because you havent played many games, or won a lot of them), then you get put with people who have higher w/l.
That and SBMM is based on a lot of data in the back so.

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I had a game the last time I played on...Thursday I think where I played a BTB round with four people who'd never touched the game (and possibly a controller) before. Literally their very first game.

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I guess newbies just end up in BTB. Not sure why.

serene furnace
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Sequel

ocean gate
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Oh ok

dusk thunder
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Calling one game Infinite and the next game Endless feels redundant. My guess is they patented it because they’re similar names.

quasi cosmos
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Good day, I am playing from Asia and wanted to know if matchmaking times and pings are high for everyone, or is it just for me?

cursive cairn
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no shot but does anyone have a spare MTN DEW CODE they code give away from the kindness oh there heart

lime robin
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@vast halo

ashen atlas
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Does one code unlock everything?

white birch
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Nah, it's one code per item

ashen atlas
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Oh ok

serene mortar
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This is probably a hot take or maybe I just suck at the game, but I’ve recently hopped back on to the game and realized how one sided the gun play can be. If you’re not the one who shot first and there’s no cover to hide behind, it’s almost a guaranteed death. You’d just have to throw grenades or melee hoping that would finish em off. There are also multiple occasions where I’d still get killed after sliding behind cover. Am I missing something or am I just trash?

keen scaffold
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I mean

I don't want to sound mean but that's like
Every shooter ever.

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And Halo's TTK is generally very high.

serene mortar
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Hmm i can hold my own on cod and battlefield but not halo

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There are always ways to outplay your opponents when you get shot first on those games. But on halo, I’d die 9/10 times regardless of what I do.

keen scaffold
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It just takes getting used to. Halo is an old- fashioned arena shooter. Back when deathmatching on Quake meant you had to spend a lot of time and effort whittling down health.

Battlefield and CoD have generous time-to-kill ratios. Very low TTK.

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Just practice and get a feel for the sandbox. You'll get the hang of it.

twin crag
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And very complex

keen scaffold
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I cut my teeth on arena shooters. I know how it used to be.

serene mortar
twin crag
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U gotta relax, don't rush in, take it slow and enjoy

keen scaffold
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Halo is a different beast from CoD or BF. You have to respect the weapons and learn their quirks.

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Give it time.

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Practice against bots in training, do the Weapon Drills, etc.

twin crag
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Go for a fight when u like its in ur favor (enemy already low health, teammate with you or already challenging, enemy in the open, you better weapons)

serene mortar
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But is it generally possible to outplay your opponents if you get shot first? Or do I have to just run for cover and heal up before re-engaging?

shadow turret
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It can be, but not always

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depends on movement during a firefight really

twin crag
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Depends on the help you can get from teammate, the weapons u have, yours and enemies position

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Multiple factors at play here

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If u have pp v the other guy has rockets, the answer is quite simple

serene mortar
twin crag
serene mortar
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Lol i was jk, im well aware not to rush a spartan with a spnkr

twin crag
shell acorn
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Wtf my game froze and force closed on mcc and i got a temp ban. What is this and they dont increase do they?

ashen atlas
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Yeah that happens, unfortunately

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It will increase with each game you quit. I believe it resets eventually though

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After not quitting for so long

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Freezes and crashes unfortunately count towards quitting

hollow dagger
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heyy do you remember that time where 343 posted a preset for forger to make thei rown Husky Raid map? Where can I download it?

agile cobalt
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its mostlikely on halo waypoint somewhere

ember egret
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Any news. On new weapons to drop in the near future?

calm quiver
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I dunno of they'll add more, they might add new varients of current weapons

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Maybe new equipment might come

jade needle
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Hey, is there a node in Infinite that works as a sort of "check for trait set"?
I want to make something happen for one player, when they use equipment, but it doesn't involve literal traits (Like infinite ammo, or more shields)
I have a working script for "mark for vehicle", where someone marks, then a vehicle appears where they marked, and they automatically get in. I only want this power to be available to whoever has the equipment

low musk
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I believe the repair field has already been confirmed for the midseason update, something that restores shields to players, and repairs vehicles to their pristine condition. I'm hoping they add more vehicles and weapons at some point. There are already so many missing weapons and vehicles as it stands

glossy umbra
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anyone else dealing with high ms

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on infinite

serene furnace
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And that's because a lot of weapons behaved the same and served no purpose being there

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If you have a Sniper Rifle then the Beam Rifle becomes pointless
Same goes to the SMG when you have the Assault Rifle

low musk
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Some yes, others no.
There are plenty of unique weaponry that got cut, ones like the Railgun, Saw, or even the grenade launcher.

serene furnace
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You have a DMR? Cool, then this Covenant Carbine has no purpose

serene furnace
low musk
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I know the Cindershot behaves somewhat similarly to the grenade launcher, though their detonation methods do differ in some regards with different effects. Like the EMP effect and the manual detonation

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Hell, even the Hydra is different, so all 3 weapons can coexist in this game. I know this might be a hot take, but I do miss the Splaser, though I know alot of people despise it

white birch
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Im sure we'll see the Splaser return in some form, though I wouldnt mind if it was closer to the faster charge lower damage model.
Meaning you would need multiple hits to kill something like a Wasp whereas the Skewer oneshots it if you can nail the hit

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Also now I kinda want to try Battlefield 2042 again with the new season but I still feel like it would probably be a pain to deal with.

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Ive played too much Halo, Im bad at faster TTK shooters now, lol.

river path
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I have an idea to play every halo game

white birch
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Then do so

crystal iron
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Is there a possibility that we can add a separate Halo Infinite Firefight chat, when that mode drops... I think it will cut down on convo traffic and let players organize a bit faster and more efficiently over a traditional looking for page

crystal iron
white birch
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My thoughts exactly

river path
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Gotta play every halo game In the order that MCC put them in

rugged quartz
hardy cave
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I need 10 Wins on Bloodline for the H2A achievement

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am I doomed for 60 minute wait times

uneven bison
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Is bloodline a 4v4 map?

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(I never play H2A)

hardy cave
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I have two multiplayer achievements left

uneven bison
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I get it sometimes just queuing for btb with other games checked as well

uneven bison
hardy cave
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That and CTF medals. Much closer on one than the other, lmao

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I need 2 more wins, it seems. And 31 more medals.

slender yarrow
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any active clans recruiting?

radiant sundial
vivid ruin
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My absolute biggest complaint with Ranked

There's never enough players during my most active hours

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I just wanna grind but can't find matches after a certain time, so I basically have to play only during peak hours (which I work during) if I want to find matches consistently.

fair elm
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is there a way to make Marine AI take headshot damage? Making a map where you’re supposed to fight “insurrectionists” but they can kinda take just about anything a Spartan throws at them on higher difficulties since they take 0 bonus damage to the head

twin crag
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It's a popularity and population issue

vivid ruin
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I feel like ranked has it the worst though

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Cause I could still find games in regular playlists

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I would just like to be able to connect to other regions in ranked without getting timed out for sitting in queue too long

twin crag
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For that you can set your search region as expanded

vivid ruin
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I'll have to try that, I forgot they added the region thing

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I will take the lag if it means more games lol

twin crag
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Yea, give it a shot

twin crag
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If I'm lucky then I get 150 ping games

vivid ruin
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Oh RIP I've already been on expanded :(

twin crag
vivid ruin
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This is a weird complaint, but it makes me sad because now I know I never get connected to other regions because my ping never goes over 100

twin crag
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So when u get a match, it is already likely in your in your region

vivid ruin
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Well, what I mean by that is, the game would rather kick me out of searching than connect me to another region that would have higher ping.

twin crag
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After peak time, population drops so much in your local region and other regions don't have enough population to give you a match

vivid ruin
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Meanwhile people in Australia can basically only connect to other regions. (I once had Mint Blitz in my game)

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And I'm in US west

twin crag
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I wouldn't count Mint Blitz for anything

vivid ruin
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He's a good example because Australian

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So I know for a fact other people can connect to other regions better than me.

twin crag
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He does weird things and says about things that he doesn't understand

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He once also said he uses vpn? So could be that

twin crag
vivid ruin
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Hmmmmm now I want to try doing that

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Literally I just want to be able to find games outside of peak hours because that's when I'm able to play 80% of the time.

twin crag
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People from other regions are connecting to your region to get games
Which could mean that their regions themselves don't have enough population to give them marches

vivid ruin
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But that's what's weird to me, because why am I not connecting to their region? Ya know?

twin crag
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I'm confused what you're not getting from this

vivid ruin
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It seems like you are trying to tell me that there aren't enough players during peak hours in other regions.

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Peak hours in other regions are not peak hours in the States

twin crag
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There arent enough people in other region, doesn't matter peak hours

vivid ruin
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I would kill for the heatmap H3 used to have.

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Or how it actually showed how many players were in what playlists/regions

twin crag
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You have steamdb for a basic idea of how the population during times is distributed

vivid ruin
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SteamDB only shows steam though, not windows store or xbox.

twin crag
twin crag
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Halo was closely tied to xbox brand
So wherever xbox is famous/used more is roughly halo is likely to known/played

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Which should again come to US (major)/EU

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The 10k high on steam could just be 40k or 50k
And the 2k low could just 5k Or smth
But anyway not enough as you are already seeing

quasi cosmos
olive brook
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any point in keeping the hd textures installed when i have my texture quality on medium

signal ivy
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nope

olive brook
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they’re only for ultra?

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anyway got 16 gigs back so thats nice

strange canyon
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They should bring back halo 4 hazop, it was such and interesting design with a lot of character (more than reaches superintendent) and I love hazard operations Spartans. I feel like modernizing it with the infinite style would bring it the love it deserves.

spiral matrix
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Was noble team important? I want your opinions

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If so why

tulip tusk
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yea bc they got cortana to pillar of autumn

strange canyon
supple moat
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Can we please just convert all mongooses in all maps to gungooses to liven up the vehicle battles rather than having these vehicles sitting around and being ignored….thank you

ocean gate
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Anywhere I can post halo memes?

signal ivy
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reddit on saturdays

full warren
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capture the zone really is the worst objective mode if your team dont know what to do

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since there is 3 land you can only grab 1

spiral matrix
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I should play halo reach on my phone

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Will that detonate it?

full warren
twin crag
ocean gate
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If u can play Minecraft you can play reach

twin crag
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Wat

radiant sundial
terse pond
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Has this random disconnecting thing on infinite’s custom games been addressed? I swear it happens every time a server goes over like 13 players

rugged quartz
serene badger
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I have literally been creating custom matches and limiting them to 10-12 players to work around this.

hollow bobcat
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I'm tired of Halo Infinite showing generic stats on the scoreboard. Aside the total score, it's always "Objective - Kills - Deaths".

Why couldn't it reflect only the positive stats pertaining to the game mode? For example: CTF: "Flag Captures/Assists - Flag distance covered - Defends/Returns"

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Strongholds: Capture time - Captures - Defends.
Slayer: Kills - Assists - Kill Freq. (Average kills per minute)
KotH: Time - Hill Defends - Defend Assists

solid ingot
crystal iron
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Is Decimus a good commander for Halo Wars 2 firefight?

ruby knoll
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yessssssss wait let me look it up

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yes

crystal iron
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I beat it yesterday with Johnson. Just wanted to try a different one

ruby knoll
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imo all the leaders are fun in their own ways. Gotta try em all

hollow bobcat
solid ingot
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then yeah, thats kind of true

mental verge
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Does anyone know what the daily player count is with Infinite now? If it's recovering?

coarse dagger
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Those numbers aren't public

ocean gate
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Imma assume it’s recovering

mental verge
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I'd google it if it were; figured some 343 help me out in here.

ocean gate
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cuz Halo Infinite is super fun now

ocean gate
coarse dagger
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Nobody from 343 would reveal those numbers here

ocean gate
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Exactly what I said 👍

mental verge
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probably 69,000

signal ivy
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420,000

ocean gate
signal ivy
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four hundred and twenty thousand

mental verge
ocean gate
tulip tusk
mental verge
serene badger
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After initial hype of release, I think it is a safe bet that the player count is expected to go down and level off for Infinite.
I really doubt the players have "gone away" rather than "go back and play MCC and 5" again.

Heck, even i spend a day on 5s Warzone firefight. Still a blast. Though most peeps that i play with are 152s.

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After 8 years of playing 5 and i am still 142.
152 is sooooo far away. 😅

onyx latch
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Not just Halo.

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I usually go off and play Darktide or something when I finish my Halo stuff.

bitter belfry
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It’s a simple concept, people want the mechanics of older Halo instead of Infinite

glacial tartan
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What’s the benefit of not publishing the player count?

bitter belfry
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Keeps people from saying the game is dead or underperforming previous titles and fueling the “Infinite sucks” movement

ashen atlas
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I think it is more to do with people seeing a game have a low player count and not playing, because of it

bitter belfry
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Probably both

celest heron
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doesn't really have any benefits unless your game is doing well.

upbeat relic
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merica

misty vale
sharp pendant
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does anyone know that website that lets you look at halo maps from i think ce and 2, it lets you fly around and look at them in like a free fly sorta way

coarse dagger
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We need Google street view, but for Halo maps

zenith latch
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Question will the halo infinite Noble intentions ever come back?

lime robin
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Very doubtful. Like the rest of the events, it's meant to be something limited.

crystal iron
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I hope the next halo has co op. Halo infinite was a joke

crystal iron
low musk
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Asking for a functional game out the gate is not on the highest list of priorities. What matters most is the STORE

left snow
odd drift
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Is MCC dead? I can’t find matches no matter what I select.

ashen atlas
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About 2,500 players on just counting through steam

odd drift
mint halo
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Yo

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is it any laso person who could help with laso?

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In mcc

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@mystic cobalt

sullen kilnBOT
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If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

crystal iron
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I wonder if 343 can remove disbanding lobbies.

misty vale
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Free 2 pass gaming doesn't want that, they want to put differently dressed halos in front of you to make you jels

steep mantle
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Is it just me or does anyone else have the same problem that Halo Infinite crashes in self-made custom firefight maps or any kind of maps?

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Like the game stops but u can still hear it or it quits you from the game.

late pelican
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Sometimes booting infinite on pc my controller settings become way off randomly

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Like the aim is crazy sensitive and i dont know why

low musk
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Nothing new in the store this week. Our wallets are saved xD

glacial tartan
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I'm excited to announce my ticket with 343 Support has now entered a new month without a response. Who knows what next month will bring.

twin crag
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BR + AR starts in Halo 3 Refueled from today
thank u 343 343pls

pearl wolf
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I tried Br starts and game is ruined with crossmap Br fires.

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I am done with Halo 3 playlist for now.

icy pelican
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Did you guys see that the sbmm debate is getting even larger and outside the community now like the guy who made the matchmaking for halo 2 and 3 weighed in and dropped a huge twitter thread about his experience working on matchmaking systems it's getting really good.

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I hope 343 listens and tweaks it a bit.

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it's not that it needs to be removed it just needs some fine tuning to make it feel less artificial

glacial tartan
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It seems that its not going to be changed

twin crag
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I think they're probably changing it behind the scenes

ruby knoll
icy pelican
ruby knoll
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also I did see that thread and he makes some peculiar assumptions/statements

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"Designers should strive to find a way that players of all skill levels can have fun together. Casual, inconsequential Unranked matchmaking is one way."
What exactly does this mean? If a playlist is unranked/doesn't use SBMM, players of all skills will just relax and take it easy?

onyx latch
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A lot of that sort of philosophy is also a little outdated-people have gotten better, and by extension sweatier, at video games.

full warren
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having never played any halo other than infinite these halo 3 maps are really testing my patience lol I have no idea where to go at all

ruby knoll
scarlet shuttle
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Is there a place we can share our clips? I need to understand how I didn’t double kill with a Super Hammer

signal ivy
white birch
icy pelican
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give us more bloom

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increase TTK

glacial tartan
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More bloom might be one of the least satisfying ways to raise a skill ceiling

left snow
left snow
celest tide
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In my experience pubs are way sweatier than ranked

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I always get put into matches with exemplary rank people but I'm bronze

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Sorry I meant platinum exemplary

ruby knoll
meager monolith
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Ima say it now, I do not like BR starts. With the sidekick and AR players at least couldn't be cross mapped at spawn. My friends and I will be dropping the refueled playlist because of this.

wise kite
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you should not go 34 - 6 in tactical slayer and win by only 2 points fix the matchmaking lol

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not an exaggeration to say that the majority of my matches all three of my teammates usually are negative every match, it's really unfair

left snow
left snow
ruby knoll
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forums existed but they were a bit more insular, now that we have general purpose spaces, it's easy for many people who wouldn't have joined a forum to still weigh in on topics x y z

white birch
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Lot more people weighing in too.
Or in many cases finding a call theu agree with from someone more known and or famous and then using that as their baseline

maiden comet
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i love sbmm where in squad battle my bottom 5 teammates have less kills combined than their teams bottom 2

left snow
maiden comet
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got 0-3 in total control in 3 minutes

left snow
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And that's the other danger. While the match may be a 50:50 at the start - if one team doesn't gel together then the results can blow out. The skill gap becomes too hard for the team to overcome.

Which is not good for anyone. 😦

And it's definitely worse in Objective games. In Slayer the good players can better compensate to some extent by just slaying harder.

maiden comet
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was a 3v8

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kills counts at end for the teams was 12,13,10,4,5,3,3,0 vs 18,11,8,10,11,9,10,9

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idk why i launch this game ever expecting anything else, next game load up halfway through 30vs62 in slayer and we have a dude going 2-11 and they have a dude whos 18-3

crystal iron
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Why does husky raid always favor one team over the other with weapon spawns... The other team.kwpt getting rocket launcher spawns... Meanwhile while we were getting a lot of energy sword and shock rifles

left snow
crystal iron
crystal iron
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Seriously though they need to make it where lobbies don't disband after each match

left snow
left snow
left snow
crystal iron
# left snow I wasn't a fan of them per se. But they should be an option for those who want t...

Right, if your not a fan of it you have the option to leave, it just feels so Dumb how they disband lobbies after each match.

Dude just did a round of Husky raid my team wasn't trying so I just kinda auto pilot it at that point.

On top of that I was having trouble at points getting kills, I put a while magazine of a needler into a player and.itndidnt even kill him, I remember when the needler was so OP now it feels like a pointless weapon at times

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Honestly the way this game plays it almost feels like I have to drag myself through completing a match.

Idk how else to explain it, but is this the whole SBMM thing where I'm playing and getting top leaderboard but still losing.

Like I'm not a good Halo player at best I'm slightly below average, so I'm assuming when the game.placea me with try hard it's basically SBMM giving them an easy match

compact spindle
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Is it just me or does Halo 3 at the very most take place over the course of 3 days

Sierra 117, Crows Nest, Tsavo Highway, The Storm and Floodgate all take place on the same day

The Ark and The Covenant most likely took place within 24 hours of each other. Cortana took place directly after The Covenant, as in Chief found a banshee and went to High Charity the instant that the mission ended. Then Halo happened, again, the moment Chief and Arby left High Charity

I’m thinking about it all and I don’t believe more than 72 hours passed during the events of Halo 3

maiden comet
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and the whole argument of players hate constant close games i disagree with, i only play squad battle and stomping the other team so heavily half of them leave and then switching when we get stomped and half our team leaves is infintely a worse experience than just constant close matchups

crystal iron
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I'm just trying to get the challenges done which at this point is fine because I am getting those win or lose but the rounds are almost painful to play at this point.

This game is basically just throwing me into unbalanced teams to give the other team an easy win..

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Firefight can't get here any sooner

maiden comet
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yea it seems like every single game you get stomped or stomp the other team its just a terrible gaming experience

left snow
maiden comet
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yea lmao every game one of the teams just has constant quitters they getting stomped so bad

crystal iron
crystal iron
maiden comet
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or when i queue up a game and its slayer and we losing like 8-36 as soon as i load in ill insta quit then re queue and get put back in the same game and now its 13-42 its great

left snow
maiden comet
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i havent had a close game in halo in idk how long

left snow
maiden comet
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and if i do its because ill carry, we lose 2-3 in koth and then notice on scoreboard i have top kills, 3 minutes of hill time and next closest has like 12 seconds of control time and half my kills

undone ivy
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Close matches are anything but fun when its about the last point, 5 matches in row

crystal iron
undone ivy
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Even 3 in row is too much, maybe even 2

maiden comet
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yea like in cod they dont disband lobbies and if theres a stomp they re- auto balance teams

left snow
undone ivy
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Has nothing to do with fun

maiden comet
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i completely disagree

crystal iron
maiden comet
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a close match is 10000 times better than constant stomps in either way with chain quitters and ending up being a 3v8 in squad battle

left snow
crystal iron
left snow
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I just go out and play.

maiden comet
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i mean yea but when i have more control time than the entire team combined and then some and more kills than any of them and we still lose its annoying

maiden comet
left snow
crystal iron
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I find myself losing motivation in most rounds, like I just see no point in trying once insee the score snowball, I'm not going to put in a y effort if my team is expecting me to carry, like I'm not that good and have no desire to try to be.

This game honestly is starting to feel rather uninviting to casual players.

Maybe that's what 343 wanted to be fair.

Once firefight comes.out they need to make sure that mode is pure casual.

maiden comet
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tbh the fps scene is trash rn, with mw3 being a $70 complete copy of the mw2 i also spent $70, cs2 being a downgrade in every way to csgo and halo sbmm problems

maiden comet
crystal iron
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Like unlike the whole idea of Firefight having the whole skills added but for real Unyshek, I want a mode that's just pure chill as well

crystal iron
maiden comet
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yea the pros will complain about 1 thing and then they will pander and follow every single one of their wishes, alienating the other 99.9% of the player base that arent pros and their career isnt to play halo

ruby knoll
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le hcs boogeyman has arrived

crystal iron
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Honestly I already feel they are going to mess up Firefight with the skulls on stuff.

I just hope we get a chill mode alongside this Skulls on mode for firefight

ruby knoll
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ff has had skulls for a while lol

crystal iron
# ruby knoll ff has had skulls for a while lol

Yea I'm aware I also no they had a no skulls mode, which I hope we get... I just want an easy mode where my friends and I can just lay back and kill some endless waves for a while without any effort.

ruby knoll
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i imagine there'll be customs as well

crystal iron
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Well ark Survival is done downloading, time to go Find me a T rex

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Or ARK ascended I guess basically Ark Survival 2.0

onyx latch
crystal iron
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Hokestly I wish we had more body types for our Spartans, I want mine to look like a Viltrumite

white birch
knotty haven
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Mid-season update when?

coarse dagger
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Mid-season

crystal iron
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Is it safe to assume that there won’t be a Halo Wars 3?

twin crag
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Assuming in 2023 is dangerous imo

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But you do you

coarse dagger
crystal iron
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Ok Ty

buoyant pendant
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I WISH they'd make a Halo Wars 3

crystal iron
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Same. I haven’t played the first one yet, but I really love HW2. Pavium is my favorite leader.

coarse dagger
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I feel like it might, one day. Halo Wars 2 eventually happened, so you never know

remote geode
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what's the star rank looking icon in the corner of Halo 3 Refueled game mode in multiplayer (Halo Infinite) for?

crystal iron
zealous panther
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refuelled playlist are so sweaty. Some of h3 maps just so outdated...

dense sentinel
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insurectionists everywhere

misty vale
analog salmon
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i think we need a permanent Quick Play playlist with BR, Bandit, or Bandit Evo starts

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if quick play is always gonna be sidekick starts at least

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getting to play casual objective without the dang sidekick has been so nice

tulip tusk
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halo wars is nice, RTS is a genre only a couple franchises did that interested me, halo wars and the battle for middle earth series, and rarely age of empires, not as cool though

outer sand
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I wonder if the cold rotate in br modes along sidekick modes

crystal iron
frosty condor
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Nope

outer sand
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Probably with the next operation? It's unconfirmed

crystal iron
compact parrot
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would it be heresy if I were to say that my favorite Master Chief armor is from Halo 4?

signal ivy
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no, in fact some people would praise you for that

frosty condor
coarse dagger
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If there was a specific date announced I would have posted

crystal iron
steep mantle
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Does anyone know the Flood Cosmetics is still available in Infinite? I only see one element today on the shop menu. Was that limited or did it still remains in the game?

ashen atlas
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I think the name is reckoning, it’s the pass right before the current one out

lofty ridge
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How many skulls shouldi enable to try and get par scores on heroic in Halo ce1 mcc

steep mantle
signal ivy
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the flood cosmetics were in 2 places, the Battlepass and shop

misty vale
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The shop exclusive ones? They rotated out. Get fomo so you spend money urgently next time

uneven bison
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They’ll probably come back tbh

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No reason they would lock them away forever

brisk coral
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I'm on 60 ping and everyone's clipping into the ground, and running and jumping at like 4x the normal speed and heights wtf is happening

onyx latch
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Packet loss, I assume./

brisk coral
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yea probably

hollow bobcat
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60 ping is perfectly fine. If people are clipping all over the place, it's most likely packet loss. Are you playing on Wi-Fi?

brisk coral
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nah it was ethernet

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my previous and following games were fine though. probably just put me in a match from some far region since the playlist wasn't the most popular

dusk thunder
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Are challenges not tracking for anyone else? Just had a 22 kill game and my challenge for kills with AR, BR, Pistol, and Frags is still at 9/15??

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Which is where it was yesterday when I turned the game off

celest heron
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maybe try restarting

dusk thunder
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Yeah that worked. The game is acting weird lately I swear. Gravity hammer strikes not registering and I swear my AR “jammed” in my last game

twin crag
young glen
misty vale
analog salmon
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These forge maps have some horrible kill barriers ngl

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Falling off and grappling back up just doesn’t work

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Seem to die if you fall a tiny bit off the map

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Is squad battle still sidekick starts

dusk thunder
misty vale
# dusk thunder Do what now?

I dunno if it's a setting on xb but there is a setting called simulation turn it to ultra and the game feels way better

crystal iron
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is the new nvidia driver update still making halo take a total of 7-8 minutes to load or did it stop?

misty vale
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The newest driver works fine

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It will do it for a few the first time, and then it loads fine thereafter

ashen atlas
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My game loads a whole lot faster now

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More than twice as fast as it use to

native gale
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I'm having an error launching MCC on steam

glacial tartan
native gale
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upon attempting to launch the Master Chief Collection, Easy Anti-Cheat encounters an error.
"Unknown file version (MCC-Win-64-Shipping.exe)"

sullen kilnBOT
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You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

ruby knoll
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funny eac moment

glacial tartan
native gale
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I don't know what you mean by "return"

glacial tartan
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Sorry autocorrect - should say run.

native gale
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Didn't work, unfortunately

glacial tartan
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Does the game launch in the eac disabled version?

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Also if we talk much longer we’ll get fussed at to make a thread in the community help section

coarse dagger
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Can we move this to support please

glacial tartan
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So you may want to consider doing that.

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Good timing.

low musk
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I wonder if we will eventually have the Bubble Shield make a return in this game? If we are having the repair field, and the Drop wall is kinda the same as the deployable shield, it feels like this would be a good opportunity.

languid vessel
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is gold rank trash?

tulip tusk
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no, gold is shiny and special

languid vessel
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feels like trash to me

uneven bison
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It’s pretty much the middle tier so not really

languid vessel
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pretty middle tier

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so im high end trash

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good to know

left snow
# languid vessel pretty middle tier

The system is supposed to sort players into a normal distribution - with an average of CSR 900. So Gold 6/Platinum 1.

But you end up with a distortion as players drop out (leaving a rank debt) and CSR grind into Diamond / Onyx (resulting in a skew).

So we don't really know where we stand.

Ideally 343 would readjust everyone's ranks to fit that normal distribution regularly. Like once a week at least. With the very best at 1800 and the average / median recalibrate to 900. And that way you would know exactly where you stand.

languid vessel
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so your saying

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the current ranks arent exactly accurate

left snow
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I really hope they do something like this if they ever bring back the champion status.

Like once a week they could do the recalibration and then award the top 2% champion status.

If you put a minimum number of games to have played over the preceding few weeks you would have an awesome way of encouraging people to keep playing rank regularly.

left snow
# languid vessel the current ranks arent exactly accurate

They are accurate to the extent that someone with a higher rank than you is better.

But we have no context for how good and what numbers.

The ranks are supposed to be divided around the mean of 900 with a standard deviation of 300. That's where the concept of divisions come from.

And if they were settled in the right proportions you would know exactly what percentile of the population you stood in. For example, Platinum is one standard deviation from the mean - and should be 34% of the population.

languid vessel
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hmmmm

left snow
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And if done properly you should also be able to estimate the chance of winning.

An average Platinum side should go 25:75 against Gold, 50:50 versus Platinum, and 25:75 vs Diamond.

left snow
# languid vessel hmmmm

The more games played by the whole population the more accurate the ranking can be. That pretty much holds for any ranking system. The more data you put in, the better it can sort the population.

People drifting in for a few games and then dropping out is a huge problem. It leaves holes in the skill spread. And some ranks get locked a bit as they don't have the winnable games vs slightly harder teams you need to effectively rank up.

And then you get high level players grinding CSR against lower ranked teams because the system is designed to award CSR for every win. If they can maintain a high enough win rate they can grind a long way. Especially if they use cleverly structured squads. And that skew dilutes the ranking at the top end. And I hope 343 keep this in mind if they ever bring back a champion status.

languid vessel
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wait
are there actual tactics for gaming the system for faster ranks??

left snow
# languid vessel hmmmm

I have no doubt the system isn't precise enough at the scale 343 are using; 1 to 1800.

I don't know at what level it does become accurate.

You can't, for example, definitively assert that someone at 1305 is definitely better than someone at 1300. And this precision drifts off when you compare players across servers and the other side of the world.

I really think they need a lower scale CSR. eg. 1 to 117.

languid vessel
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wouldnt a lower scale put players in an even broader spectrum?

left snow
# languid vessel wait are there actual tactics for gaming the system for faster ranks??

Yes. You will often see a couple of high level players; Diamond or Onyx - who are grinding CSR.

They are then teamed up with a couple of lower ranked players. This lowers the team MMR and the thus the quality of the opposition.

Ideally at least one of your lower ranked players is a bit of a Smurf.

You then focus on winning - but making sure your grinding players are getting the bulk of the kills (higher KPM).

If it looks like you haven't got the match up you want you get one, or both, of your low level accounts to quit and minimise the loss of CSR.

It's not quite as prevalent as it used to be. 343 have put limits on squad make ups. But Season 2-3 were rife. I think it was Season 2 and I came across such teams in about half of my placement games.

left snow
# languid vessel wouldnt a lower scale put players in an even broader spectrum?

You are still using a higher scale in your MMR. And spreading the players across the same normal distribution.

You are just using a small scale to divide the final rank.

It used to be 1-50. And people were happy to let their rank evolve over days or weeks. And never got hung up on the result of an individual match like we do now.

I chose 1 to 117 just for the Master Chief factor. But it could be 1-200. 1-500. Whatever. But I think we can all agree that 1-1800 is too much.

eg. Someone gets really upset if they go from 1305 to 1300 in a couple of losses. But you can't honestly tell me for certain that a player at 1305 is definitely better than another player at 1300. The system isn't that accurate. But we still get upset over those "non-significant" few points.

It should be something that evolves over a few games. Has a maximum value. And be to a precision where you can say for sure that player at rank x is definitely better than player at rank y - regardless of where they live in the world.

uneven bison
languid vessel
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Thx for info Darwi

crystal iron
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Anyone else having game crashes?

languid vessel
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my game crashed

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first time it has crashed tbh

crystal iron
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Yeah. So far today my game has crashes 3 times

feral sluice
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This construct remake is really good

upbeat cape
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Hey I'm playing Halo MCC and I need 1 moe BLAM! kill, a kill form an environmental explosion, any advice? please.

mortal marsh
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doing a run thru of all halo games on legendary currently doing Halo Wars legendary.........................if i have to hear Cutter say "All the transports have been destroyed we have to restart the operation" 1 more time i'm going to throw myself out the window. Arcadia city is RTS version of jackal alley

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did you know on higher difficulties the covenant get a MEGA TURRET allowing them to basically obliterate the transports at the leisure

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I have all the helpful skulls on and im still being grounded down into paste

lime robin
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The Covenant have a base east that a lot of people miss

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Destroy it and the amount of banshees and assault forces attacking will decrease by a lot

knotty haven
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It has been 2 years and we only got 2 dmr and equipments...
Where are new power weapons and vehicles?

zealous panther
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as much as i want new stuff it is kinda not really needed\

low musk
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I bet alot of people wouldn't argue about having returning vehicles and weapons in the game

mental verge
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I just need that CE pistol skin for my sidekick.

scarlet garnet
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Itd be cool if for black friday Halo put some of the good vaulted stuff out there for purchase. Like the black visor!! lol just sayin

knotty haven
zealous panther
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uuuh... yeah, that i would agree for sure.

vivid ruin
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Are there rules against boosting in ranked? As in, making a burner account and once your friend has the lead, you quit, he wins, gets a gigantic CSR bump because of winning 1v2

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Because I'm almost certain that's what I just ran into.

celest heron
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you can really see how jarring the aim is in infinite if you don't play for a week and then hop on.

celest heron
celest heron
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ctf sudden death and two people are just camping on our flag. It's good defense, but not gonna work in the long run which it didn't.

scarlet shuttle
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Seriously, what the hell is happening with the game?

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Super Gravity Hammer doesn’t work for me

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I just clipped a video where I hit someone twice with the hammer and it does 0 damage and the guy just t-bagged me

celest heron
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desync or lag maybe

scarlet shuttle
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Man i just clipped like 7 clip in a row of people surviving impossible shot 😂

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Direct hit Super Rocket where I die but not the other, direct hit hammer, direct two shot super bulldog

languid vessel
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So many people with lag issues

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Have ya tried getting better internet?

scarlet shuttle
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My internet is the best there is in Canada Quebec.

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I pay maximum I can 🤷‍♂️

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Been playing the game since release, never had that much trouble

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Since the last update it’s been going -oink-

vivid ruin
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It's the game

languid vessel
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Last time I had netcode issues was ...

vivid ruin
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343 already said they're going to rework the entire netcode because the small fixes they were doing aren't providing desired results.

languid vessel
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The Alpha/Beta?

vivid ruin
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It's a ways out though

languid vessel
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I feel like yall just need better wifi

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I get normal lag issues once every 100 games

vivid ruin
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You can have wired gigabit and still get issues in this game

scarlet shuttle
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I just rewatched in theatre mode in free camera mode 😂 at some point I jump nose to nose with an oponent, I shoot a rocket while he hit with the gravity axe, we see the missile launch and hear the sound but it disapeared in tin air and I died, not the opponent.

celest heron
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one of my teammates is just looking straight up and randomly moving around the map and shooting. So lame they don't get booted for this.

lone oak
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Anyone know why I keep disconnecting in customs? My internet is just fine, I can watch 4k videos, but when people try joining my customs I get lagged out
I'm using xbox live servers to host

coarse dagger
celest heron
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I know. I was just ranting at the time.

vivid ruin
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Quitters in ranked make me so mad

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Start a doubles game, go 6-0, teammate leaves, lose 15-16

cedar stirrup
#

I just popped in to say halo infinite is becoming awesome and that spark of my childhood for fun in halo is back after the last update. I hope they continue on this trend

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Anyone want to play legendary

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Anyone can add me if they want to play some campaign. I'm going to mcc for a while. Gt apoctron

young glen
young glen
sand turret
#

Quick question. But first, some context. MCC.

I'm shooting for the <3hr Legendary achievement for CE. Trying to grind my PB on Two Betrayals. I've been trying to despawn the enemies of the exterior using the double tap on the door panel. However I have yet to get it to work.

I know that via patches the Banshee grab on AotCR has been made far more difficult, if not impossible. Which forced me to use the bridge drop method instead on that mission.

My question is: have patches done the same to this trick? Or am I just not nailing the timing? I've seen video tutorials and it looks rather simple. But for some reason I can't get it to work for me.

agile cobalt
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i just had a match with 32kills no deaths

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the next 10 matches will be. fun

golden wadi
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I keep getting paired with bad players in infinite, I'm getting like 25 kills in slayer while they're getting like 1 or 2 ._.

celest heron
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welcome to infinite, heh

young shore
#

Halo ce legendary ending was so lame, no 2 hour making out montage between Johnson and the elite

slim flint
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they did not have 2 hours to live

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though they should’ve made out

young shore
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Exactly bro

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Cortana and chief have nothing on this REAL couple

dusk thunder
#

Any non-US Halo fans looking for a Mtn Dew code?

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Got one worth 4 points

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Shoot me a DM, first come first served

sand turret
serene furnace
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Like the Banshee trick in Assault in the Control Room, it's still possible, but very hard. I had to ask a friend to do it for me 5 months ago

sand turret
serene furnace
rocky cipher
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the day this game gets a decent MM is the day we as a species go to mars

vivid ruin
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I am really not having a good time getting to Onyx

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32% win rate

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In doubles at least. In arena 52% win rate, but matches sometimes take 20 minutes and it's just taxing

rocky cipher
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I swear I could let a telephone pole take the place of my BTB wasp players and it would do better than these people

left snow
sand turret
rocky cipher
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there is ZERO reason I should be solo queuing and getting matched against high onyx stacks

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its BTB, make it squads v squads if you have to

full warren
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Everything match making related is messed up, I given up even complining, I will play the game till I am burnt out and play something else once I am done lol

young glen
#

I given up even complining
Great start.

full warren
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I mean been complaining since season 1

#

and I mean barely anythign changed other than 1 mnk buff nothing else really changed with the game,

#

more maps? I don't care about maps lol I care about the game play (match making and mnk balance) and there is neither lol

#

2 years is long enough to know they dont want to change it

#

Now I just play and quit when I am annoyed.

left snow
# rocky cipher there is ZERO reason I should be solo queuing and getting matched against high o...

The population probably isn't big enough to support different queues for squads.

And in principle it should be OK - as squads get a weighting - so you should be a bunch of higher ranked individuals vs the squads. It should balance out over all.

But a bunch of streamers whinged that they couldn't team up and play with their buddies / viewers. I believe 343 relaxed things to let them play - and now you get some horrible mis-matches.

left snow
# rocky cipher something needs to change

It definitely does.

Tighten the SBMM overall. Use bots to fill out lower ranked matches. Let the bulk of the population (average skill) play each other in well matched games. And then take the really good players and hard to match squads - and make them wait for an appropriate match up (we are going to need a more accurate estimated wait time so those players know where they stand).

A match composer would help enormously to funnel those harder matches into the same playlists.

Lastly have a playlist with no SBMM. Call it "Last Resort". For those players and squads who can't find a match elsewhere. So they can get a match if / when they are desperate. "Estimated wait time for this play list is too long - would you like to enter Last Resort".

glacial tartan
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That “last resort” doesn’t need to be a different playlist - when a ticket enters the queue give it a time period where, when it expires, the logic is relaxed. Meaning teams of 4 can have longer search times waiting for another team of 4, but if it exceeds a certain time let them find solos etc.

celest heron
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I believe that's what H5 did.

glacial tartan
left snow
# glacial tartan That “last resort” doesn’t need to be a different playlist - when a ticket enter...

I kind of does though doesn't it?

I'm not talking about a bunch of solos being put up against an appropriately weighted squad. If the match is good, and the spread of skills over the lobby isn't absurd, then go for it.

I was talking about those high ranked players and/or widely spread squads who are hard to match - and end up drawing inappropriate team mates and/or opponents. Where the gap between the lowest ranked player and the highest ranked player drifts out too far.

Those squads should have to wait until a similar squad is presented. And in those cases - a Last Resort option may be useful.

celest heron
empty rapids
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anyone know why on a fresh install of infinite aiming with kb&m feels so.... Rubber bandish?

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it's so sluggish and doesn't stop when i stop, it proceeds a little bit and it's infuriating

low musk
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Probably the settings. The default settings do feel a bit slippery, especially on the controller

empty rapids
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i disabled vsync, went and turned on antilag. It still doesn't feel as good as my last install

empty rapids
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alright, it was a dram issue

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pc wouldnt boot after a restart, reseated everything and it's working great now

serene furnace
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Guys

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If you're upset about losing so much, just get better

livid viper
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why cant i view details on halo mcc on steam, dont i have to be 17 to play that game which i am 17 btw

celest heron
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are the servers messing up again?

fading monolith
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any 2024 roadmap for infinite yet?

glacial tartan
obsidian skiff
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is there a mod for halo infinite that makes it third person

lone oak
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For the past week I can't seem to consistently maintain a connection to the server when I arguably have decent internet, enough to watch 4k videos at least.

When in customs, if someone joins my match it sometimes lags me out of the server, and some regular MM games I get lagged out of too

However, comma,

During times of in-game lag where I'm still connected, in the middle of fights my shots do land thru the lag now which is a good thing, bravo 343 for fixing the desync

left snow
serene furnace
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Roadmaps spoil the fun. Just let them surprise you

ruby knoll
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ecks dee

obsidian skiff
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😾how do i play halo infinite in third person

drifting canopy
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Hey I’m new. Uh… so Flood are still a thing according to Awakening the Nightmare… or is each Halo game apart of a multiverse now so that 343I can write any story and make it all cannon yet nothing is cannon??

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So Halo 4 is universe timeline 137. And Halo 5 is universe timeline 293. And Halo Infinite is universe timeline 373. And so on

wide trout
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and no, we don’t deal with multiverse stuff

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the most you’ll get out of that is Slipspace

drifting canopy
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But the Endless can control space and time

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Why they were immune to the firing of the Halo Rings

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So… multiverse

ruby knoll
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@wide trout good luck lol

drifting canopy
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I’m not meaning to come off as a troll. Perhaps a little ignorant but innocently

wide trout
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they are “attuned with living time”

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manipulate space, maybe

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but they can’t create dimensional causeways or whatever

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not like the Precursors

drifting canopy
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Oh… so uh… the flood could theoretically infect the endless and then maybe?

wide trout
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that’s why they are dangerous

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Halo can’t kill them

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ergo, they become a living vector for flood infection even post-firing

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nullifying the effects of the Array entirely

serene furnace
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They are such a threat to the universe because they are immune to the firing of a Halo ring but not to a Flood infection

drifting canopy
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Are the flood aware of that fact?

wide trout
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the flood at this point are cognitively dissonant

serene furnace
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Probably?
But they haven't infected any Xalanyn as of now

wide trout
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they don’t have a Gravemind or anything like that to control them

livid viper
wide trout
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we explained this to you yesterday

drifting canopy
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There could be flood on shield worlds with possibly a Gravemind? Similarly to what we saw with HW1?

wide trout
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shield worlds… don’t have flood

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that’s… kinda the point

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well

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i guess that’s not entirely true is it

serene furnace
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Depends on the shield world
Requiem for Example, had a protocol to fly itself into the sun in case of a Flood infection, which is how they tricked the system in Spartan Ops and got Requiem destroyed

drifting canopy
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Well Halo Wars had flood on the outside of the shield world

wide trout
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yeah

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and?

drifting canopy
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Something the covenant released by accident? Or existing before both parties showed up?

wide trout
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we have no canon indication that there are any flood left outside of High Charity and a few research facilities across various Forerunner installations

serene furnace
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They are out definitely out there, we just don't know where yet

drifting canopy
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Lore behind PvP maps aren’t considered cannon?

serene furnace
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It is

wide trout
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all Halo 4, 5, and Infinite multiplayer maps are simulations

drifting canopy
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Alright so those Halo 3 maps with containments would be on the Ark then?

serene furnace
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They are simulations
But the Halo 4 map Abandon for example is based on a real location that humans did investigate, and I would assume that is the case for every map in 4, 5 and Infinite if you consider them all as simulations based on previously explored real locations

wide trout
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the point is that there’s no gravemind

serene furnace
drifting canopy
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I’m just thinking of the outbreak from Halo CE. Even on the existing ring in Halo Infinite there’s flood cataloged. Idk how much bio mass exists on the ring currently or if an outbreak could happen

serene furnace
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I think it's unlikely because of one plot point

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The game doesn't fully make it clear, but what's going on is that the Banished are trying to make Zeta Halo their new home

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And they would want any Flood in their home to be controlled and definitely not let loose

wide trout
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atriox is smart. he knows that the flood is more of a threat than an asset

drifting canopy
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The one line “there’s far more dangerous things on this ring than the flood” sounds like there is containment of flood on the ring

wide trout
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that was in reference to the endless i think

serene furnace
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Oh, Cortana is indeed referencing the Endless in that dialogue

drifting canopy
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It was, but also kinda mentioning that the flood are there as well

serene furnace
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Narratively speaking in the sense of a dialogue, it wouldn't make sense to imply that saying a Flood outbreak is more dangerous than the Flood itself
It's like, rhetorical

wide trout
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nice thing about most forerunner weaponry is that most of it is purpose-built to get rid of flood biomass

drifting canopy
serene furnace
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So the Flood could or could not be in Zeta Halo
They probably are
But as of now they are not an active threat
If you remember Halo CE for example, the Flood didn't get let loose by themselves, both the Covenant and the UNSC had to release them, by accident of course, but they did
It could be that the Flood on Zeta Halo have not been released yet

wide trout
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they are on zeta halo

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there’s been an outbreak

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saturn devouring his son?

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Protocol: CORRUPTOR?

drifting canopy
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🤔 Spartan Ops revived as a campaign (sorta) to investigate and contain the outbreak… would be cool? I think a lot of nostalgia players would love it

serene furnace
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I'm all in for side stories any day

drifting canopy
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Also dipping back into the space horror genre would probably make Halo Infinite an all time win

drifting canopy
wispy raven
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remind me to NEVER play two betrayals EVER AGAIN

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it was difficult

livid viper
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also the help you gave me yesterday wasnt help as i thought

livid viper
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should i get the halo collection on steam or microsoft store?

olive brook
livid viper
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why

olive brook
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Personal preference

civic sundial
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Mods are easier to install on Steam

olive brook
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From my experiences the microsoft store is pretty bad

fringe glade
low musk
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I forget, is there like a special store update that happens on fridays, or is it the daily only?

dusk thunder
low musk
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That will be interesting, though only time will tell to see if its anything of interest

dusk thunder
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Still have a Mtn Dew code to give away worth 4 points to any non-US residents trying to get those Mtn Dew skins in Halo Infinite.

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Does no one wants these anymore? Been trying for a few days

crystal iron
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what if mastercheif = gnome!!11!!1😱

coarse dagger
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🤨

tidal sentinel
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hey all just bought the halo mcc
i need to ask are the halo 1,2,3/odst and reach ports good on steam
do they cut anything from halo 1,2 and 3 and also if they did cut anything are the ports still good and can i get any cut content on the workshop?

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and also ngl changing the graphics from classic to new is so much fun just clicking one button and going from og xbox graphics to new and see what was changed

signal ivy
tidal sentinel
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i like that the mcc lets you download only the games you wanna play to save space on the pc

pallid nest
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Hey does anyone know this. So I wanna get mcc on steam and im not sure if it does the same thing as infinite where is transfers data between your Xbox account and steam account

signal ivy
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it won't transfer game saves but account will be the same

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since you sign into your microsoft account through MCC on steam

pallid nest
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Ooohh ok ok thank you

signal ivy
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you're welcome

pallid nest
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Just wanted to make sure because I was cautious with infinite when I did that and wasn’t sure if it was the same for mcc. Thank you!

signal ivy
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no problem at all, enjoy!

glacial tartan
# tidal sentinel hey all just bought the halo mcc i need to ask are the halo 1,2,3/odst and reac...

"cut anything" is a hard question to answer. Hit registration and the ripple effects from tickrates are different, but I would say MCC in general added content rather than took it away.

For example, you cant superbounce in Halo 2 without a mod.
But, you can play the Halo 2 E3 demo from way back when thanks to the digsite team.

Hard question to answer - I'm biased though and will say no matter what its worth the purchase.

tidal sentinel
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i see thanks

wispy raven
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given, this is my first time playing halo on keyboard, but GEEZ did those rocket flood end me

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tbe combination of rocket flood + tanks + turrets was insane to me

low musk
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The flood is terrifying with how efficient they can be when handling human weapons. Using covenant weapons feels like a nerf

wispy raven
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even their hands are terrifying 😭 i feel like i get smacked to death by them more than shot to death

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its a skill issue tbh but still

ruby lake
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what the hex?

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i won 2 matches in a row and suddenly lost one

despite me getting a higher place in my team's leaderboard

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que'd up with good players and then the third match was some new players

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is there something i dont know here?

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i mean im seeing a pattern here

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win a couple matches in a row
lose one

repeat

misty silo
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SBMM?

ruby lake
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must be

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i imagine some sort of algorithm robot sorting me out to get a couple of wins first

before grabbing my spartan to the "loser area"

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matrix type nonsense

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"this player won 5 times in row"

"put her in the loser's area"

fringe glade
civic sundial
# tidal sentinel i see thanks

To add to what FFA Panda said, they added cut content from Halo Reach's DLC in the form of the Mariner and AKIS (GRD) helmets as well as adding in maps and armour from the cancelled Halo Online for Halo 3

wispy raven
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that final part of keyes holy 😭😭

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no checkpoints whatsoever and i was on 1 bar of health left so when i died i was sent right back up to the top floor

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i was so mad omg

civic sundial
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Yeah, those later levels of CE are real unforgiving

celest heron
wispy raven
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i know i talked about it alot when i beat it last night, but two betrayals kicked my teeth in

civic sundial
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Oh Two Betrayals is horrible

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Granted it's not the worst level in the series but still

radiant sundial
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Library :)

wispy raven
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i had to wiggle my ghost up to where the last banshees were to even stand a chance against those two tanks

celest heron
civic sundial
wispy raven
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i guess ill find out soon enough bc im playing through them all in order

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im on the maw now :3

civic sundial
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When you reach Halo 3, you will learn which mission I mean

civic sundial
wispy raven
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thank you! based on my track record so far, lord knows ill need it (i suck at halo apparently)

civic sundial
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Eh, you'll get the hang of it

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So long as you're having fun, that's all that matters

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Plus like, Combat Evolved is a 22 year old game

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It's got a bunch of weird quirks and oddities

radiant sundial
civic sundial
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Second to last mission, Cortana. As a level designer I despise that mission

radiant sundial
olive brook
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Can i still go into the openworld after finishing all the story missions

radiant sundial
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You get sent to the open world anyways when u finish

olive brook
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And i can replay story missions for the collectibles right?

radiant sundial
olive brook
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Going for 100% for the multiplayer stances

radiant sundial
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Everything in infinite has a replay button

radiant sundial
olive brook
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I really like the campaign so far

civic sundial
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It's a fun game

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Easily the best when it comes to the feel

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Do wish Infinite had more weapons in the sandbox though. Really missing the Plasma Rifle and SMG

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Plus it would've been nice if we had some of the Promethean weapons in the game

olive brook
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I miss the promethean weapons

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some of them were pretty cool

civic sundial
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I miss the Prometheans in general, they're just so cool lore wise

white birch
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In the future perhaps.

low musk
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I miss the Railgun the most

wispy raven
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just beat the maw

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it was great yeah but holy was it frustrating

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im a terrible warthog driver so it was really difficult 😭

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great game tho

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onto halo 2

wide trout
rugged quartz
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There's a lot that i miss

celest heron
crystal iron
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Question for a Moderator: will the discord have a dedicated chat for firefight?

low musk
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True. Vehicle wise, I do wish the Mantis was back. Given the cramped nature of the maps, having a walking vehicle really helps as a go between that is more useful against spartans, but struggles against other vehicles unless it can stomp them

crystal iron
# white birch In the future perhaps.

Imagine if the story for Infinite was more an uneasy alliance between the banished and the UNSC against a weakened form of the promethians and Cortana where it's revealed Cortana was actually killing other AI extend her life cycle.

So the AI turn on her.

Like if they made her a bad guy they should have made her a full on lunatic but nerf her power so she becomes more desperate and more violent

low musk
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It wouldn't make much sense for that narrative to kill off the other 'Created' merely by merit of the existence of the Genesis, which is effectively the fountain of youth for human made AI

tidal sentinel
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are the halo anniversary games multiplayers still alive?

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which halo in the mcc has the most active multiplayer?
also is there a multiplayer that combines elements from all the games or nah

olive brook
tidal sentinel
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i see thanks

olive brook
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Reach is pretty active too

celest heron
celest heron
radiant sundial
low musk
civic sundial
wispy raven
wispy raven
civic sundial
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Just you wait and see what vehicles you get to use in the later games

onyx latch
civic sundial
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Mantis my beloved

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Oh how I wish you could be on Zeta Halo to wagr war with the Banished

analog salmon
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As much as I love forbidden, I think I need to wait until prism is weighted less

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Or just not play so late ranked is dead

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I’d say it’s no chasm but it ain’t super fun

pallid nest
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Prolly a dumb question but can rock and coil be done in custom games

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Currently achievement hunting

sharp pendant
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is there a list of what each gamemode is in the turkey time playlist on H3?

dusk thunder
tough marsh
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If Microsoft was really microsoft.... they'd buy bungie back, no hard feelings 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

onyx latch
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This is Halo discussion, not Marathon discussion.

coarse dagger
smoky wave
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They wanted to stop making halo since like Halo 2 lol, they were the ones who didn't want to continue more and leave Halo

onyx latch
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You guys aren't getting it. Microsoft wanted Bungie to leave because they hate Halo, and wanted to ruin it to spite Bungie, out of pure jealousy of Bungie's creative talent.

coarse dagger
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Oh, of course, how could I forget kekhalo

smoky wave
pallid nest
civic sundial
analog salmon
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i imagine sony just offered more money

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dont really think they would care between microsoft and sony

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the OG Bungie that broke away from Microsoft presumably all got shares and would be making bank selling to whoever

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not to say it was all about money, but it will have played a major part in Bungie breaking away

pallid nest
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Wasn’t 343 made up of ex bungie employees that still wanted to work on halo. Not to mention reach was pretty cod adjacent which 343 leaned into heavily afterwards. Honestly 343 was just a natural progression of what bungie would’ve done. Oh and infinite’s return to form is amazing and should be the standard for live service systems like battlepass vaults

analog salmon
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partly

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and 343 have also have worked with Certain Affinity on the multiplayers, the studio of which was started by ex-Bungie employees in the mid 2000s

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and worked on maps for 2, 3 and Reach iirc

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it might have made sense for Microsoft to buy Bungie back after Halo 5 so that 343 could use the Tiger engine rather then developing slipspace

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but whether Bungie was even willing to sell then who knows

civic sundial
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2015 was during the Activision Bungie years, D1 Taken King released that year

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And Bungie wasn't on the market to be bought back then

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Not to mention that the Tiger engine wouldn't exactly be the thing Halo needed back then

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It's kinda like saying Halo has to use Unreal or Unity to survive

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Halo is more than just the game engine used to make the games

analog salmon
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probably wouldnt have been much easier then switching to UE tbh

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true but there is rational for them putting so much into modernising blam instead of switching

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i doubt its just about paying fees or whatever

twin crag
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while using a 3rd party engine seems easier at first, for games as big and complex as halo, it's usually better to use in-house engines if available

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on a different topic, I played a couple of matches of Halo 3 Refueled, and the playlist and it felt closer to no SBMM than tight SBMM

civic sundial
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There's advantages and disadvantages to using in house developed engines vs 3rd party engines, believe me, my old job had a real wild day when the Unity changes were announced

twin crag
hallow dagger
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Anyone know what explosive kills count on infinite? Is it just rockets and hydras?

ashen atlas
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Not too sure on ravager

hallow dagger
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Ravager really? Huh ok. Good to know about the Cindershot tho

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Yea I don't think ravager. It's more flame than explosive

ashen atlas
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Yeah skip that just in case lol

ashen atlas
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I assumed it was only regular weapons, but I guess it’s literally any explosive weapon/item

hallow dagger
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Huh. Im trying to get the 7 explosive kills for the final weekly mission

twin crag
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every time I play ranked, I an saddened by the people's choice to have a CSR based ranked

analog salmon
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honestly i dont think it changed a whole lot

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definitely eyebrow raiser for me since i understood why it was MMR based matching

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but i was actually expecting things to be worse then they are

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hard to say though because they've made other improvements

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like they weren't taking into account stacking for the first year so no wonder there was issues

civic sundial
twin crag
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and now I have 5-6 smurfs in a match at Plat 4

hallow dagger
twin crag
analog salmon
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hm

twin crag
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just played a with a plat 5 with 436 matches that had 6.7 kda in a slayer partied up with a D1 who had a 9.0 KDA

analog salmon
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so they play however many matches, then throw their 5 placements, just to play in plat lobbies?

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hm

twin crag
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with MMR, after a couple of matches this won't be possible

analog salmon
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yeah true

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honestly people just didnt really understand the MMR-matching system i dont think

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it wasn't really that unfair if you understood how it worked

twin crag
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Why is it unfair

analog salmon
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basically people think its not fair they are matched against someone with a higher CSR who is no better then them

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so you're in a lobby and everyone is matched based on MMR but 1 player is D5 and your D1

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and you think "im as good as this person how are they D5"

twin crag
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My lobbies are still D3 paired with a P1
Where's the balance?

analog salmon
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i think they still use MMR to some extent but idk

twin crag
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no, they already said that it's no MMR only CSR

analog salmon
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idk then, to be honest im not against wide skill bands for better matchmaking times

twin crag
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u're not getting better matchmaking times

analog salmon
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i think you can still enjoy a game your against higher skill players and getting ratio'd a little bit

twin crag
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it's ranked?
I'm playing to win?
how can I enjoy when I see a D3 + P1 in their team and I have an actual P1 in my team who is getting rekt?

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I can't even help him because I am myself struggling against the D3 and the P1

analog salmon
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smurfing is an issue no doubt, im just saying ranked lobbies dont need super tight SBMM either way

twin crag
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might as well just say u can have fun in a 4v3 or 5v4

twin crag
analog salmon
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you can have fun in 4v3s tbf lol

twin crag
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you understand how SBMM works right?
CSR based system is the simplest form SBMM

analog salmon
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i've had close 4v3s being on the 3 side

twin crag
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the only difference is that ur MMR is known to u (CSR)

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I want a tight SBMM in ranked, I want to play to win and be better

analog salmon
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i think you're overstimating how accurate SBMM can even be to begin with if you think a low plat and a mid diamond shouldnt be allowed in the same match

twin crag
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this is not social

analog salmon
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of course its not, socail puts 8 year old kids in lobbies with professional players

twin crag
analog salmon
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doesnt mean ranked needs to be flawlessly skill matched to the point most the world has to wait 20 minutes to find a match

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mate we're not talking about SBMM not are we

twin crag
analog salmon
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we're talking about how much SBMM. there's no disputing where you draw the line is up for debate

twin crag
analog salmon
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so there's absolutely zero debate in your mind that SBMM has to be tight as possible to the point that nobody outside north america can find a match? like what?

twin crag
analog salmon
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im in western europe and its already hard to play ranked because of the waiting times

twin crag
analog salmon
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its literally the main thing that stops me playing this game

twin crag
analog salmon
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you're asking for the game to die then

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cause i aint playing if the matchmaking times get longer

twin crag
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I just played every single ranked match today in NA servers at 250-300+ ping

analog salmon
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cool but for me tighter SBMM is no more Halo, simple as that

twin crag
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while waiting 5min for each match and then getting 5 smurfs

twin crag
analog salmon
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we clearly have different tolerances, i'd much rather have weaker SBMM then have to play on North American servers

twin crag
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what

analog salmon
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yeah it is, sorry but tigher SBMM requires longer wait times

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idk how that's a misunderstanding of SBMM lol

twin crag
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u have a misunderstanding lol,

analog salmon
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you want to find players with close skill you wait longer lmao

twin crag
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I am still waiting 5min and then getting a match in NA servers with smurfs
how is that any better?

analog salmon
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why do i find social matched in 3 seconds and wait 10 minutes for a ranked match when ranked has a bigger population? like what?

twin crag
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for all I care, it's worse

analog salmon
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you are willing to play on North American servers, im not

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i'd rather quit this game and play something else then play on north american servers

twin crag
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then put ur server settings to local instead of expanded

analog salmon
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that's a difference in our opinions not some factual misunderstanding

twin crag
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there's both

analog salmon
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you can say you are happy to play at 250ms, i am not

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its an unplayable experience for me at 250ms

twin crag
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see the problem is u're assuming that I am happy to play at 250ms

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when I just said that I have to play at 250ping with smurfs and then said it's worse

analog salmon
#

so how do you think they can address the issue of skill variance in matches (setting aside smurfing) and not increase wait times for non-NA players?

twin crag
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because rn, there's not much integrity left

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and still a 5min wait + 250ping for me 🤷

analog salmon
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okay well whatever the "integrity" of ranked right now its a lot more fun then social for me

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and the only thing that would kill this game for me is longer wait times

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so idk what 343 can do about P1s and D3s being in the same match that wouldnt make me quit this game

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they dont have an option as far as i can see, they just have to keep the player base and hope to appeal to more players

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smurfing issues should be addressed of course and i hope they can find a solution

ruby lake
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im

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starting to be convinced that sbmm in normal playlists is a thing

coarse dagger
coarse dagger
ruby lake
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think

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then why infinite is so wonky when it comes to its sbmm? (at least in normal playlists)

coarse dagger
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Define "wonky"?

analog salmon
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there is strong skill based team balancing because unbalanced games are not fun in social or otherwise

ruby lake
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wonky

  • weird
  • unusual
coarse dagger
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:/

ruby lake
analog salmon
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that's because its not using skill banding and preventing low and high skill players being in the same match

ruby lake
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when i do good in matches like win a certain set in a row

i start losing a bit often

analog salmon
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its just making sure the teams are balanced

ruby lake
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im somewhere between the low and high skilled player (but leaning towards higher atm)

analog salmon
ruby lake
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think