halo-discussion

[knotty haven]

@severe valve I'm using studio 536.67 drive, and it's better now from the second time I enter the game

[keen thorn]

How are you supposed to get CQB in infinite, I’m kinda irritated at the lack of info on YT about it

[crystal iron]

I have a feeling Shoulders is next on the list for cross core

[uneven bison]

I think it’s in the winter pass

[frosty condor]

Yep, it's in the Winter Update Operation, and the best part about it is it's a free Operation to complete!

[low musk]

I would imagine wrists/waist items would be next. I’ll be happy to be wrong if there are shoulders next

[olive brook]

howdo i stop playing this game

[low musk]

Extend your index finger, and press the power button

[olive brook]

Im being held hostage by halo infinite

[vital loom]

Lucky, LOL.

Did the Winter Update Pass stay free after the newer Seasons came out, or do I need to buy it like S1 or S2?

[olive brook]

Im pretty sure it’s still free

[vital loom]

Amazing!

[olive brook]

Does anyone know if i can make crouch and slide seperate keybinds

[lime robin]

No, why would you though?

[vital loom]

For Season 5, are we gonna be able to customize the new cores like all the others? [I really mainly mean the Halo CE one]

[smoky wave]

Halo CE is not a new core

[vital loom]

WYM? It came out with Season 5, did it not? Season 5 is the newest season. I'm kinda loosely keeping track, cuz I'm not playing Halo ATM [soon though!]. So forgive me for not knowing.

[sterile meadow]

There's a new voiceprint reset bug like the personal ai reset bug that happened a while ago now I found out, hopefully they can address that too

[smoky wave]

The Halo CE armor is a kit, there is no new core this season

[vital loom]

Ohhh, okay.

That makes a lot of sense.

Is it a kit for Mark V?

[smoky wave]

I think it is? I don't remember that correctly

[vital loom]

Oh, alrighty.

[crystal iron]

It’s a kit for mark VII

At least, I think it is

[vital loom]

Ahh, okay. Is it the same with the GEN 3 Mark VI?

[crystal iron]

Yep

Both are kits that you can change the coatings, visors and armor effects on

[vital loom]

Amazing!

One more probably dumb question: What's the Career Rank?

[crystal iron]

It’s a progression system that players have access to based on their score performance each game

So if you get like 20 kills and have 2000 points at the end of the game, your career rank progress goes up by 2000 points

There’s 91 different tiers separated into 7 separate divisions that take longer and longer to grind; Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum, Diamond and Onyx

[vital loom]

Ohhh.

[crystal iron]

The last tier - Hero - is for hitting the max rank which gives you access to the Mark VI kit and also the Midway Emerald coating for all cores

[vital loom]

Okay.

[crystal iron]

Hero is about 9 million xp

[vital loom]

LMAO... too much. Almost.

[crystal iron]

Halo 5 was worse

And MCC is stupid long for no reward (1 billion+ xp)

[vital loom]

.......... Bro.

[crystal iron]

Yeah, mcc’s progression system is kinda crazy

[crystal iron]

More like kinda stupid

Rarely any double xp events or anything

[olive brook]

I dunno, just used to them being different keys because of some game i used to play

[fiery pewter]

Guys, is it normal that the aim assist sometimes stops working, specially when the enemy shields are down or when i jump?

[olive brook]

are there any AI's that arent annoying in this game

[proud plank]

Never

Do most ppl play on Xbox here? I play on PC and heating about aim assist reminded me that people use controllers.

[fiery pewter]

I'm not sure wheter we have more console players than pc players here tbh

I wish i could get myself a nice pc to play m&k but i have nowhere to put it

Cuz controller aim lately feels weird on most FPS

[proud plank]

Why don't you get a monitor and keyboard and connect your x box to that?

[fiery pewter]

I have a monitor, but i lack the space to plug in the M&K

[proud plank]

Oh mouse and keyboard I was wondering what m and k was

[olive brook]

This game feels so good on M&K compared to other halo titles

[fiery pewter]

I feel like it sucks on controller

[proud plank]

Honestly I can't aim without a mouse. But the cross hairs in this game makes it so hard for me to aim as well

All I want is a dot

[fiery pewter]

As sometimes aim assist doesn't work and with my sensitivity at 8.5 my aim just goes past them even if the crosshair becomes red

Ranked with the DMR makes me feel it even more

[sterile meadow]

@lime robin @ruby lake I'm a bit late but yeah, it's the personal ai voice reset bug back again, but now for the spartan voices instead, I have already made a bug report too, even if you set it it will switch back to the default spartan voice print in the next couple of matches or sessions or so.

[glacial tartan]

MCCs progression system also stops updating past a certain point - a little under 1.1Billion XP your numbers still go up but the graphics break/stop updating after each game. Not sure they ever expected anyone to get there.

[sterile meadow]

There's also the bug with the controller vibration partially not working properly which is a bug that came a few seasons ago, not a big deal but annoying that the impulse triggers dont work, I made a bug report too for that

[olive brook]

Theres this weird bug where I can’t stop playing the game

[signal ivy]

Working as intended

[haughty leaf]

There's this other bug I found where I am exceeding terrible at the game, and yet still enjoy it.

[sterile meadow]

It is awesome though, prism is definetly my fave map so far, the skybox is beautiful with the distant space battle

If you look closely you can see halo 5 era blockade runners and bungie era covenant cruisers fighting banished ships

[civic sundial]

You're plugged into the system now, the Matrix owns you

[uneven bison]

Still free, may want to grind in case 343 gives it the operation treatment though

[limber fox]

How can i give the flag to teammate?

Also how to play vs AI in custom? i can't understand how to make vs AI lobby

[scarlet shuttle]

Okay…? I still fail to see why you wrote « Skill issue» like it’s the most random statement you could have answered, we are talking about game settings 🤔
Btw, most pro player don’t play at max FOV, they are in between 95 to 105.

[misty vale]

Have you not encountered the "skill issue" meme

[olive brook]

am i just crazy or does sliding feel slightly delayed

[random crater]

for some reason I prefer to call Elites as Sangheili same goes with the other races in the Covenant and Banished

[limber fox]

Is there a vs ai mode in halo?

pvp matches are TOO hard

[magic night]

Bot Bootcamp

[signal ivy]

Or customs

[magic night]

^Or you can set up a Training match in the Academy

There's a lot of options

[limber fox]

how to activate this?

[magic night]

Bot Bootcamp is a matchmaking playlist

[limber fox]

last pvp match i played ended with -5.3 kda 💀

[limber fox]

im trying to figure out how to start it

[magic night]

Just like you would any other PvP playlist

Select the playlist from the list, then start searching

[limber fox]

oh the last last one, thank you!

[civic sundial]

Should be noted that Firefight is coming this season as well, which is PvE against campaign enemies

[signal ivy]

Firefight KoTH*

[crystal iron]

Yeah I'd honestly just play against bots and then do firefight if you're not liking the PvP. Infinite has a really tough skill ceiling compared to some of the older games.

Alternatively there are a few good custom built firefights going around right now and I can share a file with you if you'd prefer that.

[signal ivy]

If you don't specify people will expect regular firefight and get mad lol

[crystal iron]

@limber fox

[limber fox]

Thanks! Some Pvp matches are brutal

[lime robin]

@crystal iron Please do not spread unconfirmed rumors.

[dusk thunder]

Are the servers down?

[crystal iron]

What rumours? We've been told that firefight is coming sometime around the second half of this season which should be christmas-ish.

[stark fractal]

Make sure you’re on the current version. A patch was just pushed

[dusk thunder]

Yeah it just popped up for me. Thank you very much!

[lime robin]

Just keep it at soon, mentioning even a vague date creates false expectations and a snowball of misinformation that will then backfire.
I'm only saying it because it's happened before.

Any other questions can go to modmail

[crystal iron]

Well unless it's going to release in season 6 the average season is about 4 months so that means it'll be december or january if they keep to what they stated publicly.

[civic sundial]

I can say I've seen this happen with the game I used to work on, one of the moderators on the Discord kept providing dates when we told them not to for updates and it got real annoying real quick

[crystal iron]

It's ultimately up to the staff at 343 to not set expectations by giving false dates. So in this case we've been told halfway though season 5. The other seasons are 3 months typically, meaning it'll be "late" if it doesn't release in december. A january release wouldn't be unexpected but would be way over what they suggested.

[coarse dagger]

This is what we've been told

[sullen kiln]

Firefight: King of the Hill is scheduled to come later in Season 5, per the release trailer and announcement

[crystal iron]

Yep so December or January roughly at latest.

[coarse dagger]

Nowhere did they say halfway through

Just later

[livid vapor]

I am gonna be playing through the mcc with my father soon, the only problem is I don't have two xboxs' or two pcs' and don't really want to do split screen. I know they added campaign cross play for halo 3 ages ago but I can't find any news on the other games newer than 2022 can anyone tell me if any of the other ones are cross play or even planned to be eventually

[crystal iron]

https://en.hocmarketing.org/the-ultimate-guide-to-mastering-halo-infinite-season-5-62197

Ah yep I see where the confusion has come from, all the primary outlets are reporting it as halfway rather than late. Still makes no difference ultimately though.

[glacial tartan]

Only H3/ODST. No MCC roadmap.

[ruby steppe]

I own Halo my name is John Halo.

[frosty condor]

Please refer to official sources (343i) for this kinda stuff

[crystal iron]

Well in this case late is still december or january unless they're going to release in season 6 so it quite literally makes no difference and is accurate.

[civic sundial]

Later could mean anything from two weeks after the season released to near the end of a season. Honestly, I don't need to have a specific date because regardless, Infinite has plenty of stuff to do right now. I'm just really interested in seeing how the mode is gonna play

[livid vapor]

Darn, thanks

[civic sundial]

Later is different to late

[crystal iron]

Later means anywhere from release to the end. Late means near the end. Either way december and january are completely accurate.

[civic sundial]

Not really

[crystal iron]

Months:

1. October
2. November
3. December
4. January

Anything more than that is another season.

[civic sundial]

Right but they aren't giving a specific window for when it will arrive

[crystal iron]

They have said late or later I.e. December or January unless it's going to release in season 6 so again yes it's fine.

[glacial tartan]

Set your expectations properly - if it doesnt have a set release date, assume its coming out at the last possible moment or pushed. If they do anything better you're pleased its earlier than expected. If delayed no harm no foul 😄

[ruby knoll]

ip logger tier url tbh

[coarse dagger]

It's the accuracy of the wording we need to be careful of. Later this season vs halfway through can be a difference.
It would surprise you how heated people can get over inaccurate times. I get what you're saying here, hut we need to be very careful what we let people advise others. Too often 343 get blamed for things that the community has made up or gotten wrong

[crystal iron]

Yeah I'm looking forward to it whenever it releases, I can't wait.

[olive brook]

What’s the best mode to play to for battle pass xp?

I’ve just been playing BTB since that seems to give a lot of it

[civic sundial]

BTB is the best from what I hear for EXP in general

[olive brook]

Awesome

[oak grove]

Anyone have tips to beat par score on Halo CEs second mission? I have really bad luck and died a few times then ran over a teammate and my score went down darastically

I watched Halo Completionist tutorial but it kinda just made things worse

It's hard to grind so much and still meet the time requirement. I'm noob comboing the elites and headshotting the grunts, but there's a weird murphys law going on where maybe I'm just not feeling it? I haven't slept at all so I'm really, really sleep deprived and suck right now

[olive brook]

Difficulty?

[oak grove]

Legendary

I restarted and want to try with thunderstorm. Someone said it doesn't change much other than elites

I love how it glitches and now won't spawn the next dropship

Here we go, 4th attempt

Murhpys law....

Also the second banshee at the start always decides to screw off after killing the first one, in the tutorial it seems like he kills them both, but as soon as the dropship lands and drops off the other people, the other banshee doesn't attack and just goes away which I hate too. I could have made 1000 points at the start and keep restarting to attempt to kill those two bansees for the 1200 or so, and one always just screws off

[cunning oyster]

CoD’s SBMM is generous compared to Halo infinite’s.

[fiery pewter]

I'd say it depends on the modes, btb sbmm is not full force like 4v4

[short flower]

Will changing the difficulty of my play through negatively affect it? (Halo infinite)

[magic night]

I think that only would affect your eligibility for difficulty based achievements. Not sure since I've never tried it.

[fiery pewter]

Forge campaign is so fun

[crystal iron]

its more like CoD is easier than Halo

[fiery pewter]

I hope they will increase the amount of campaign ai that yoi can have on the map

So people can make massive campaign levels

[coarse dagger]

The current limit is at any one time, so you could script to load additional enemies in later - as long as the total active doesn't go above 32

[civic sundial]

And given how many you normally fight in any given encounter in the campaigns usually, that's more than enough at any one time

[fiery pewter]

Sure, but i still hope we can reach the limits of the Halo Engine

(I also hope they will add the flood as Ai, even tho it's very unlikely)

[rugged quartz]

I'm guessing the new update didn't fix the yokai on certain coatings as the coatings are still missing and I don't see anything on the patch notes about that

[ruby steppe]

Bro whenever I host a public custom game on infinite I always get kicked out of my OWN fireteam saying "Unable to connect to your fireteam" so lame

I get max 1 or 2 games in hosting then it just kicks me like so weird

[rugged quartz]

thats weird

I do know they need to improve CGB stability and joning

[grave ether]

Very strange. I haven't hosted a game yet but the ones da hub hosts seem to go just fine. Wonder what the issue is there

[left snow]

Anecdotally... My group has found customs works better if everyone;

1. Has moderate or better NAT.

2. Signs out of their profile and back in again from within the game. Especially if you'd opened the game on quick resume.

3. Plays a private custom game together first (we use it as a warm up).

[grave ether]

I find a lot of issues come from quick resuming

[ruby steppe]

I'm not doing anything crazy with AI either, its plain old Pursuit or Infection lobbys on stable maps.

When I Play on other peoples Customs I get zero disconnects.

[true shale]

So getting the Oct. 26th patch, and from the website, it wasid that the patch size for the console was 3gb but I am downloading a 57.29gb
Whats up with that?

[coarse dagger]

Means your system had to download the full game again instead of running an update - various reasons that can happen, most common is canceling an update before it starts or had finished

[true shale]

Bleh.
It started downloading in the background.

Thanks for the reply

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[ruby steppe]

Ok so I found the issue with custom games.
It only kicks "me the owner" out when I host OVER 24 players; which is weird

[tight burrow]

Hey; curious question here; has anyone noticed the absence of the Perfect Medal Star in the killfeed?

personally I'd like to see it return ...

[tepid latch]

Hmmm, it would be a cool addition, but it could also clog up the feed if you end up with players who are just that good at perfects

[tight burrow]

It didn't really seem to in Halo 5; it instead just replaced the headshot indicator

[tepid latch]

Oh, well in that case sure lol

anything to show off a players skill in a match without interfering with the flow and UI im down for

[tight burrow]

Honestly, it's such a small thing to have lost from Halo 5 > Infinite but I've missed it dearly; it takes away some of that glorious feeling of having gotten a flawless kill y'know?

[ruby lake]

season 5.
shrekoning.

its good, but the operation stuff is right around the corner

[old lynx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odN3hiR7JVo

[stoic canopy]

I feel like the Bandit starts may have ruined Ranked for me

[tight burrow]

I love it personally

[stoic canopy]

I cannot use this weapon to save my life

[tight burrow]

But I wish I could have the lowered reticle

[stoic canopy]

I legitimately cannot even fight the ODST Bots with it

Give me a BR, AR or just a Sidekick and I'm fine

But the Bandit is honestly useless in my hands

It feels like everyone else has an automatic perfect aimbot while using it while like 40% of my shots just go wide and I'm shooting at half speed

[tight burrow]

I played a lot of Halo 5 & the Needle Rifle in Reach was my favorite weapon so honestly, it feel like home to me haha

[stoic canopy]

The Bandit feels nothing like the Carbine, DMR or Needle Rifle

[tight burrow]

What would you say is your biggest weakpoint with it

[tight burrow]

It definitely has it's own feel, but I liken it closest to the Needle Rifle

[stoic canopy]

Literally everything.

I legitimately cannot use the weapon to even pass the trials.

I could probably perfect the BR or Sidekick blindfolded by now

But not the Bandit. I've even considered going back to using Controller to get the aim assist buff.

[tight burrow]

Okay but what is your biggest weakness?

[stoic canopy]

The weapon

Like...the whole thing

[tight burrow]

Bro

Come on

[ruby lake]

the bandit is sure the weapon of all time

(aka i avoid the thing at all costs even if its put into a challenge.)

(and i despise the weapon no matter how many buffs it gets)

[stoic canopy]

I'm not even good enough with the weapon to tell you what my problem with it is

[left snow]

The difficult part is that the Academy only has the original Bandit. So it's not really the same. The EVO doesn't have the vertical recoil.

I'm struggling to get the rhythm of headshots - so I'm still losing a lot of 1v1 despite having 60%+ "accuracy".

But it's a great weapon. I love it. Halo 5 Magnum vibes.

[left snow]

What's your sensitivity? And your FOV?

Being a precision single shot weapon - you have to be able to track your opponent. Especially if they have a good strafe.

Having too fast a sensitivity and/or too wide an FOV - may be causing you to miss your shots?

Where the faster spam of the Sidekick and 3 shot burst of the BR are not as affected.

[tulip tusk]

so whos gonna make a ghosts of onyx campaign level in forge

[stoic canopy]

https://imgur.com/NDtgiz6

And a FoV of 85

[crystal iron]

Been playing quick play and haven’t got extraction once

[brisk coral]

when are they gonna fix getting hit behind walls

[onyx latch]

Tell me when they solve something online gaming has been struggling with for literal decades.

[brisk coral]

this game is way more consistent with that than others

[onyx latch]

The thing that online games literally do expressly because it exists to solve an even older problem.

[crystal iron]

Your best bet is to Thrid party kill with it.

[uneven bison]

Never because every single fps online game ever has had that problem. It favors the shooters pov, not yours.

[tight burrow]

Would you be open to doing a coaching session with me at some point?

[left snow]

Don't know a lot, if anything, about mouse settings. But it may be worth dropping them back a bit to see if it helps with single shot accuracy. And then put them back up as you gain some proficiency.

How do you go with the Commando?

And keep in mind - the Bandit is not a DMR. You aren't going to get the cross map range of a DMR or even BR for that matter. So don't get frustrated with missing shots at a distance.

85 FOV is fine. I think people notice accuracy becoming harder at 105 or more?

[zealous panther]

I like new map with crystals, but I just can't see anyone... And it is actually large enough to not see people for sometime. I like it but I don't like to play in it.

[left snow]

Hoping that we get to revisit a lot of Campaign maps.

Wonder if 343 could give Forgers some basic tools to make loading screens. Text options for simple mission briefings. Some audio / subtitles so that you could have Cortana talking you through the mission etc.

Add a bit of Campaign like "structure" to their Forge creations.

[ripe hinge]

Does anyone know how to make random Teams Every round? i want a random killer every round, infection doesnt let me set it 1 life

[uneven bison]

Dear 343:

Cadet white

Sincerely, Dreadbench00.

[tepid latch]

real

[zealous panther]

Oh you want white? I suggest you buy this first week release bundle

[ruby knoll]

fr

we need cadet white and 30-50 more recruit/cadet coatings for all cores and we need em yesterday

[strong flax]

anyone know why it keeps making me and my friends download shaders on start up every time we load?

[tepid latch]

is it the NVIDIA bug?

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1717700901740388680

[crystal iron]

Nvidia driver bug. Revert your drivers.

[strong flax]

thanks

[vapid marten]

is there a zone or volume in forge which can be used in Nodes to trigger events, and have them invisible?
The Generic Zone is visible despite the "Show" option being "off" for the Boundries.
Made a ticket on it but in the meantime I'd like other options

[crystal iron]

yo all serious question: do controller users for Halo Inf PC have less aim-assist than if they were playing on a console?

[livid fable]

NB4 someone tells me to submit a ticket, i already have in for this- does anyone else experience lag SPECIFICALLY on Disciple for Husky raid? that's the map with the big center part and side wall teleporters.

[left snow]

I doubt it. I've read some mega threads over time - and I don't recall it being mentioned as an issue.

[zealous panther]

I give up on commando. I don't like to use it over bevo

[livid fable]

it's shorter range. it'd be better with that 1 bullet shaved for kill time

still highly unclear on why they did that

[zealous panther]

You need to be lucky or waste precious parts of the second make last bulled accurate enough. And on the long range it's not even funny. Not even talking about accuracy and kicking. Smh, I just don't see why use it, but that's just me.

[livid fable]

nah, you gotta go center mass unti the shields break, stop shooting for a smidge, then raise the reticle

[zealous panther]

That's what I said. You need to waste this part of the second

Literally I don't see any point to use it over the laser pointer bevo

[livid fable]

the bmr

[zealous panther]

wah... i suddenly got update for 900mb or something.

[crystal iron]

today is Halo 5 birthday

[haughty leaf]

[sullen anvil]

Happy birthday Halo 5!! (and me)

[olive brook]

Anyone know why my framerate gets locked to 70 as soon as i go into the ''Multiplayer'' tab on infinite

[crystal iron]

Happy birthday!

[ruby knoll]

halo 5 woo 🪅 🎉

[livid fable]

Melee is AWFUL

I spent all that time in the forge the other day testing all kinds of stuff, melee included. It's pretty simple and doesn't have a lot of complicated moving parts.

so it's not like there's hidden rules in the melee we don't know about like "If the guy in front of you is sprinting and so are you, you can't melee jump."

*there IS one hidden rule regarding how close your reticle has to be if you're jumping but it's still pretty lenient

so when i get 1 match where melee fails seven times, i'm a wee bit irked.

lag comp my foot.

like i legitimately can't believe you people take your ranks seriously in this environment

i'm just trying to do placement matches and the screwball is spinning fast.

[robust drum]

Hear me out, we need a Football styled Griffball gamemode with the return of the Ricochet armor, and for good measure, use Brute Chargers who’d target whoever has the ball.

[dusk thunder]

How about a rocket league clone using Brute Choppers?

[misty vale]

It's not a serious competitive shooter. Can't imagine playing ranked. Btb heavies and husky raid is where this game shines.

[livid fable]

so, in my placement matches, i had 2 matches where 1 teammate quit on start and another where 2 people quit mid match on strongholds

as a result of this, kd got pretty lopped pretty fast

how does this affect rank?

[misty vale]

if you lost those games, then your rank got dinged for your losses. Per my previous email: it's not a serious shooter.

[leaden mountain]

how is husky raid? don’t think I’ve tried that yet

[misty vale]

it's pure fun chaos blastin spacemen

[leaden mountain]

sounds like my average tuesday

[livid fable]

you're not wrong about husky raid and btb heavies I came out as gold one which I'm perfectly fine with. I guess I'm just confused that this is the experience people foam at the mouth about

big team Battle usually has too much lag for me to appreciate playing it. big team Battle heavies is no different. I thought maybe it was just my system not being able to cope, but sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. it's just inconsistent.

when I say lag, what I mean is stuttering chopping motions

[misty vale]

do you have your settings correct?

My computer is pretty old, it's no XB1 in terms of ancient hardware, but it's old, and the game runs really smooth for me

even on Oasis I'm getting 80+ FPS

[spice grove]

is there a way to turn off the AI voice audio in infinite but keep other voice audio?

[magic loom]

To my surprise I think big team battle is very laid back and boring and I dont know why it feels like that

It has 28 players and yet most of the time map feels empty to me, no idea what is going on with that mode

[leaden mountain]

ok ya it sure is fun spacemen blastin, i love this

[misty vale]

Just don't get mad at video games when you're getting spawn camped by two dudes with hammers. Have fun with it.

[fast vigil]

Does anyone know when you get the Infinite battle pass reward code to redeem on the Halo store? Normally they give out pins for completing the pass but I think they are doing a bag this time?

[leaden mountain]

already happened. most of the time so far it's been the other way around though 😉

[glacial tartan]

Whoever is trying to post and getting it auto deleted, maybe try a shorter question 🙂

[olive brook]

Can the S5 pass still be purchased after the season ends?

[glacial tartan]

I dont play it but you can test this a bit yourself - are you able to purchase the pass from previous seasons? (I guess if you own them all you'll still have to wait!)

[olive brook]

Yes, i can purchase the ones from previous seasons

[coarse dagger]

https://www.youtube.com/live/4E3CIrSnJ1w?feature=shared

Community playdate about to begin

[sleek hatch]

How does one find the source code for halo and find the info for the weapons to see if they are hitscan or projectile?

[coarse dagger]

Source code for Halo is not available

[sleek hatch]

Makes sense

[bleak nymph]

Halo has also never actually used a Hitscan system for shooting. Instead every weapon uses the same projectile velocity stat, and the velocity is just set so high on most bullet-firing weapons it crosses maps in less than a frame.

[celest heron]

basically all the slower firing weapons are projectile including the h3 br, but technically everything is projectile.

[scarlet shuttle]

Are there other 343 players playing in different regions for the community playdate?

And if so, are they also streaming?

[wraith willow]

can't believe Halo 5 is already 8 years old

[livid fable]

to my knowledge, yes

[glacial tartan]

With a velocity that high is there any practical difference between Hitscan/Projectile?

As you approach a 0ms delay in pulling the trigger and the shot registering, whats the point in still saying its a projectile?

If its strictly a technical answer and it functions like hitscan then I'm fine with that 🙂

[pearl creek]

What´s the news on the Halo MMORPG?

[zealous panther]

Yes it is practical difference. The amount of time I killed someone who killed me is insane

[bleak nymph]

@glacial tartan The practical difference is that it enables bullet magnetism as a mechanic.

Plus some other smaller effects, like how it would still take more than a frame to cross unintentionally long sightlines, like on a massive open forged/modded map.

[misty vale]

the big one for smoothness for me and my brother was animation and simulation at max

[analog salmon]

also make sure ur not CPU limited and cap to avoid it

[boreal saffron]

Is there a new big team battle map in season 5?

[lusty wraith]

Send me the source code (I am not a secret PlayStation representative)

[coarse dagger]

I don't have it as I don't work for 343 :)

[coarse dagger]

No. 2 new forge canvases and 2 arena maps though

[lusty wraith]

Only someone who has the Halo source code would say something like that

[twin crag]

Maybe it's just me playing after 5days but playing Infinite during US time feels a bit sweaty
2 games, 1 in forbidden and 1 in Team Slayer playlist, its a bit sweaty

Or maybe I'm just getting old and losing my edge

[ruby knoll]

lemme ring up ensemble real quick

[edgy path]

Anyone else have Windows Defender labeling a piece of Infinite as a trojan

[twin crag]

well I mean, it is trojan?

why am I not finding matches :(
it shows 0:19 wait time ;-;

[coarse dagger]

Very likely a false positive, make sure your definitions are up to date

[visual cove]

Since I STILL can't get Strike or Assault to run, what have I missed in Infinite's multiplayer scene?

...wait, why is Infinite taking so long to load?

I know I need a better CPU but it still shouldn't take THIS long to load the main menu.

[visual cove]

Wait, there's a Halo MMO coming?

[vapid marten]

There was one way back in the day, before Halo Wars, I think some of the assets in Halo Wars was from the MMORPG project.
Not heard anything about a new project started

[visual cove]

Wait, there was one?

[vapid marten]

In development yes

[visual cove]

Bro, that would've been cool!

Also, FINALLY! I'm on Infinite's main menu!

...why did that take nine minutes?!

[vapid marten]

From what I recall it looked very "World of Warcrafty"

[visual cove]

WoW-ish? How so?

[vapid marten]

https://www.unseen64.net/2008/09/23/halo-mmo-titan-x360pc-cancelled/

[visual cove]

Okay, wow, that REALLY would've been cool!

...hold up, when did I get EVERY Armor Core?!

And what's with the hexagons on customisation parts?!

[coarse dagger]

#halo-support-news

[vapid marten]

Eh, going with how studios handled mmorpgs back then it'd most likely have been a wow-clone in terms of gameplay.
Then considering all the "psionic" stuff meant for the game it's questionable if it'd even been canon with the main storyline, or if those concepts would've been implemented which would've changed Halo considerably compared to what it is now.
In my opinion, Halo "dodged a bullet" when that project was cancelled.

[visual cove]

how did infinite just crash

[visual cove]

Apparently the hexagons mean you can transfer components between Cores.

[coarse dagger]

December 2022, Winter Update. All cores were unlocked for everyone

[visual cove]

Huh. Neat.

[vapid marten]

Really gotten into scripting. Gonna be fun creating my dream Firefight, or as close to it as I can get atleast

[visual cove]

Can you still switch BPs freely? It seems like you gotta pay now.

oh wait you do have to pay

[vapid marten]

From the beginning i343 said you'd have to pay for older Battle Passes if you wanted to activate them.
So, they don't ever expire but to activate one which isn't Live, you need to purchase it, other than that you can switch them as you please.
If you're going to spend money on them I do recommend that do not purchase Season 1. From season 2 onwards they have Credits in the rewards which in total becomes 1000, which is enough to purchase the next season pass. So if you purchase season 2 then you'll be able to unlock every season pass as long as you get all 1000 credits from a single one.

[crystal iron]

It… was always like that

[visual cove]

bro i aint played infinite since season 2 i dont know this

[vapid marten]

Yeah, but it wasn't something that 343 really went out and said a lot prior to season 2.
I only recall it being in one post somewhere and it was basically one or two sentences.

[visual cove]

INFINITE KEEPS CRASHING

Do I need a new CPU that badly?

[crystal iron]

I thought that they were talking about it a lot since the beginning, idk, maybe my memory isn’t the best at 1am

[ruby knoll]

nvidia?

[ruby knoll]

nah tbh they did mention it a bit late

[elder yew]

Halo Infinite looking like nba 2k17 with this loading times on PC.

[crystal iron]

Oh ok

[tribal jasper]

any tips for taurus bossfight on legendary ?

[coarse dagger]

It's an Nvidia driver issue

#halo-support-news

[slim flint]

you can switch between ones you’ve already paid for with no extra cost

[tribal jasper]

like, is it even possible to trigger v=checkpoints on this guy ?

[tight burrow]

Maybe I'm weird for this, but does anybody else with that Ranked Arena was strictly Objective gamemodes?

Personally I find it a little meh to get a game of Slayer in the match rotation, especially when Ranked Slayer is already in an exclusive the playlist.

[grave ether]

I agree that you are weird for that lol.
But I'm one of those weirdos that prefers slayer

[short heart]

when will mmr not be lost from 3v4

they need to fix ranked

so much garbage thats bee nthere since launch

[graceful island]

What’s a good way to farm battlepass xp in infinite?

[short heart]

use a boost before first game of the day

[scarlet shuttle]

Who was the guy in the community playdate today?

The one with the racing gear

[queen granite]

use all the boosts you accumulated

whenever you get on use a boost

i have like 60+ accumulated

[rugged quartz]

Grim brother one

[noble dawn]

So, I went on halo to play a game ended up joining a lobby after that my whole screen was black wasnèt able to play the game or nothing. I ended up sticking with the game and then after got suspended for not playing, I donèt understand why I must be in trouble for something I didnèt do

@pliant palm please fix this Ièm having a bad day just want to chill and play halo

I sadly had to ask other players in the lobby to help me anyone else having this problem, Iève been suspended for one day I could be leveling up my battlepass etc. Can the Halo mods remove my suspended account please I will be fixing issue before I lunch the game. I was wondering by the time I get on I could be able to play a game without having to be punished for I didnèt do.

My gamertag is RageMasterC#6495

[celest heron]

if this is a constant issue, then you should probly avoid playing until you figure out what's causing it.

[noble dawn]

@silver plaza Hello, I wanted to ask you since itès in your bio, I need to play halo I love the game and need to level up my battlepass and need to get my event stuff done, If you could ask anyone on the mod team to remove my suspended account that would be amazing.

[celest heron]

they can't help you. you need to file a ticket on the support site in the ban appeals section.
https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us

[noble dawn]

Thank you

I wanted to say whoever helped me remove my suspended account I want to wish you a thank you and if I could buy you a beer I would if I see you once I find out you will recivce the biggest thanks and always be the best

This why I still play halo

Best staff team and good people

[wraith willow]

downgrade your GPU drivers until it gets fixed, NVIDIA's have also been affecting shader compilation in other games like Forza for me

[dull hemlock]

Had a great game and wasn't recording it. My replay in theater is so rigged, like less frames. Any tip on proving it?

[silver plaza]

????

[coarse dagger]

Nobody removed it for you, it was likely a short ban that expired automatically

[tulip tusk]

me too. ive seen some maps like ShadowStrike with objective blue banners popping up like "attack the outpost" or "follow the objective" somehow. which is the most impressive campaign lvl i have seen so far

[grave ether]

Wait, you could've gotten a beer out of this

[coarse dagger]

Lol

[vapid marten]

If Forge could reference other Forge maps in the scripting, then I doubt there would be any issues making a campaign.
"On game end -> Load Map 123"

[serene badger]

🥹

Yep, we need that.

[left snow]

Yep. It would have to be limited of course. But if Forger's could structure their Campaign levels to not only look and play as such - but also be presented in the same way. How glorius would that be!

[left snow]

Agreed. And even better if they could add a transition screen and or mission description of some sort - to make it feel like a real Campaign level.

[tribal jasper]

Are there any forgers ? Just wanted to know what the next top requested feature will be, and how much work on the 343's side needed to make forge maps consistently look as good as dev made ones.

Cus right now, a forge map that looks that good is a somewhat rare occasion, even amongst those that are included in official playlists.
It doesn't mean that I say those are not fun, but they do look odd, and even newer smaller scale maps that look really good, like "Throne", still have small details that drag overall level of polish down

[coarse dagger]

Forge maps can already looks like dev maps, it just takes a good forger and a bit of time. As time goes on we'll start seeing more polished maps released, especially as more features are added to forge

Some maps forgers work on are in development for 1+ years

[tribal jasper]

I know, but the most "dev made like" map actually included in official playlists I saw is husky raid banished hallway and maybe Zanzibar, and they still has visible clipping geometry and odd lighting when you start looking into details.

Everything else gets progressively more obvious that this is forge made thing, Im not trying to devalue forgers work. But I'm curious what 343 can make to ease their work and raise average level of quality as much as possible in forge boundaries (releasing a standalone editor like Valve's hammer would be even better, but that's topic for another discussion)

[left snow]

Are we looking at the same maps?

Yes, the developer ones are still better. But damn, the Forged ones look good.

And things are always improving. Season 5 is giving Forgers bigger budgets and much better lighting options.

If you look hard enough you can find those little glitches you are describing. So I don't. 🙂

[vapid marten]

Experimenting in Forge with Scripting and AI is fun.
Learned so much these past few days

[hollow dagger]

Generic Zone Trigger in Forge

[noble dawn]

Yeah, I thought someone helped you should of played along I would of legit gotten you a beer

Anyways I still like the Halo staff I will still buy you a beer if you guys ever come to Canada I got you 😉

[grave ether]

Lol, well we are (try to be) good people. Appreciate it though

[noble dawn]

You guys are the best I love you guys

[coarse dagger]

[vapid marten]

So happy, got the Script Brains for my own Firefight type, and the Game Mode, now I just need to make a map...

[frosty condor]

[turbid terrace]

Is there a way players can earn xp in firefight? Or is firefight only available in custom games?

[coarse dagger]

Yes, if you're doing a custom game with at least 2 people you can earn some XP - there are limits in customs

[sullen kiln]

Match XP in Custom games requires at least 2 players, a match lasting 3 minutes or more and a positive personal score at the end of the game. More information is available on the Halo Support Site:
https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/19897139664404

[coarse dagger]

Once Firefight: King of The Hill releases later this season, you'll be able to earn more XP in that

[white birch]

Get ready to witness the stacking.

Then again, I got to 152 in 5 on the back of Warzone Firefight, so its honestly only rightious to do it again

[twin delta]

On Halo Infinite, can you use the Bandana Skull (infinite ammo) on legendary and still get the achievements for completing campaign?

[uneven bison]

No. All of the “good” skulls turn off achievements

Same with scorpion gun

[white birch]

Didn't they go back on that

[celest heron]

https://vxtwitter.com/extremebreaker1/status/1716950728852509087?s=46&t=g7GumnjVHoYkb-JdoQrvHA

[uneven bison]

Possibly I’ll check

[twin delta]

Possibly, I did just get an achievement on campaign with the infinite ammo skull on

[white birch]

I'm pretty sure all skulls means all skulls in Infinite cause shock spam was a viable tactic

[uneven bison]

Yeah I might be wrong actually

Looking at some Reddit threads

[twin delta]

I got the "Stick Around" achievement.

[celest heron]

be easier if it was premade like mcc.

[uneven bison]

Yeah I think you can actually do it with bandana

Same with tank gun

[twin delta]

Wow game crashed, now I have to kill him again on legendary

[signal ivy]

you can, that's how I did LASO

not the tank gun, but I had bandana on

[uneven bison]

Oh no, who?

[twin delta]

Tremonious

Although I guess it could be worse

[uneven bison]

Be glad it wasn’t bassus

[glacial tartan]

At some point you get used to the crashes tbh

[twin delta]

Yeah I've just finished collecting all the logs etc. Idk why it crashes, my pc is fine

Is it a common thing?

[glacial tartan]

Been a while since I've played the campaign in Infinite, but MCC also seems to just randomly crash - more of a 343 thing I guess

[olive brook]

why is ''Other players loading'' sometimes instant, and sometimes takes 2 trillion years

[smoky wave]

Xbox one or different specs of PC, etc

[twin delta]

Yeah it is irritating

[wet panther]

Halo Infinite. Can Headmaster be done in coop?

[languid ridge]

Yeah Xbox one and players on hard drives.

At some point I hope they sunset Xbox one support. Tell everyone to move onto either pc or series

[olive brook]

Thinking about buying the infinite campaign once it goes on sale, worth it?

[lime robin]

If you want it, go for it

[hollow dagger]

Personally, yeah 🙂

[olive brook]

Usually 30 bucks on sale, i think I’ll go for it next time it’s on sale

[languid ridge]

Just get the game pass for a month

Play it and beat it in like 10 hours

[olive brook]

Issue is, that means I’ll have to use the microsoft store…

[sleek hatch]

It's pretty fun and the open world is pretty cool. It has great replay-ability(imo).

[main crest]

Question any of you guys know how to fix the Cant connect to lobby services ,

[celest heron]

this is active now

[signal ivy]

thank you

[jade citrus]

How do you do the halo infinite fire fight

[sullen kiln]

Firefight: King of the Hill is scheduled to come later in Season 5, per the release trailer and announcement

[neon vapor]

You can do custom games

[jade citrus]

Thank you

[short heart]

-ranked extraction
-2 teammates leave instantly
-enemy wins after waiting 4m for them to get all extractors obviously
-lose same mmr for losing normal game
i want to know how this makes sense

[left snow]

The system has no choice but to treat quitting as a loss. The scope for abuse is too high.

But I agree it's silly to start a game with less than 4 on a team. In that case penalise the quitter (and anyone in their squad) and put everyone else back into match making.

As for your MMR. You tend to lose CSR. And it's capped at 5 if it's a team mate that quit. Which is easily won back (you'll find you tend to win more CSR on the next win).

They can't really take too much MMR as that would just encourage Smurfing.

[short heart]

i lost 7, and i get 9-11 when i win, ive never hit onyx because of this bad system

1499 is the highest i got

[left snow]

Might be worth checking again. It's capped at 5 for someone on your team quitting early (unless they changed it in Season 5?).

How much you get for win depends on your MMR.

1499 is frustratingly close. Good luck.

[short heart]

funny enough the game i needed to win for the next one half the enemies left

but i killed my teammate twice from goofing around having fun cause i was finally free, he kicked me

[jolly beacon]

ever since season 5 dropped every other map i play has had some serious artifacting

like bruh what is this

[low musk]

I’ll be finishing up the remaining g challenges hopefully by this upcoming evening. Any opinions on this weeks weapon coating?

[rain violet]

in mcc on pc, can you view the original games's menus eg halo 1's og menu or halo 3's?

[vapid marten]

Is there a way to prevent players from joining a specific team in Custom matches? Making a firefight map and wouldn't want players on different teams.

[coarse dagger]

No, they aren't available

[zealous panther]

You can add them through steam workshop if you on pc steam

[rain violet]

oh like how you can get cursed halo like that

honestly ive gotten accustommed to cursed halo 1 more than regular halo 1

also can you splitscreen halo 1 on pc mcc?

[wraith willow]

i need to try controller again

[hexed bolt]

Controller just feels better for halo imo

[zealous panther]

Ofc. Aim assist is a strong tool

[rain violet]

Aim assist, son. Locks on in response to enemy presence

You can't hurt me, Escharum!

[serene badger]

I have hope that word will get to 343 about this. They gave us tools to make firefight maps, but we cannot make them without being able to control which teams people can or cannot join to make firefight actually work…. They should realize this problem pretty quickly.
Half the time, I have stubborn people purposely ruining the experience.

I have been thinking about what that would look like in the settings…

Choose how many teams and whether players vs AI can be on each specific team???

[fiery pewter]

Can someone tell me why the rocket sometimes has less radius than a nade?

It's been 5 seasons and It's still inconsistent af

[olive brook]

Can we have more daily challenges in infinite

[signal ivy]

yeah, you just have to wait until the next day

[olive brook]

…

Thank you

[velvet root]

so am I the only one that thinks that halo infinite should have collaborations with other games ? I cannot wait for an event like this If it's going to happen

my Biggest question is why didn't they do that yet ?

[serene furnace]

Technically it does

The Master Chief skin available on Fortnite is his Infinite armor

Same for Rainbow Six Siege

[coarse dagger]

https://vxtwitter.com/Halo/status/1718689158028558683

[velvet root]

yeah but I was talking about events on Halo infinite charm skins that sort of stuff

[serene furnace]

Yeah that would be cool

Now that Xbox owns Bethesda there's no excuse to not have a Doom or Fallout helmet

[velvet root]

indeed, I hope this becomes a thing

[serene furnace]

Pls 343

Before continuing to use your resources on those ugly helmets make those collabs first

[velvet root]

yeeeeesssss

a collaboration I've been thinking about Is League of Legends x halo infinite, can you imagine would that be like ?

[serene furnace]

Infinite needs more reasons that have people talking about it that are not for negative reasons

[agile cobalt]

anyone having issues with matchmaking

[velvet root]

of course

[serene furnace]

The new maps sometimes cause a little lag, other than that it's going fine for me

Although yesterday I played Halo 2 and 3 on MCC, Halo 2 was fine but Halo 3 was running like at 15 fps, it was horrible

[velvet root]

oh yeah I noticed that in some games I was lagging as hell It was impossible to play

let's Pray to our Gods for this miracle to happen

[agile cobalt]

bruh

my ping is at 1k, i cannot leave the game at all

[serene furnace]

Force quit

[agile cobalt]

yea i just did

it just kinda pisses me off that matchmaking goes like oh yea lets put him in a game with 1k ms ping

[signal ivy]

omg that nameplate 😻

[agile cobalt]

like jesus christ it just did it again

does 343 not know how to make functioning netcode

[serene furnace]

Yeah, because I've never gotten 1k ping

And we are playing the same game

[agile cobalt]

i know it happens to everyone

like gawd dayum what got into the servers, the halo 3 rat?

[glacial tartan]

Still bizarre to me that there arent any Infinite/MCC crossovers - even something simple like bringing the forge community playlist back into MCC when it was released in Infinite. Feels like a lot of low hanging fruit.

[white birch]

We back to the honor rule days of Halo 2 Infection

[leaden mountain]

this is a certified other players loading moment.

[serene furnace]

Those Xbox One players have it rough

Really makes you wonder if Infinite eventually will get updates and features so large they will have to be exclusive for next gen, or if every upcoming thing will always have to be limited to work on that hardware

[olive brook]

Sentenced to other players loading.

[vapid marten]

Something like that would be great, but I suspect that would come along when Multi-team is introduced which can be a season away at this point.

[leaden mountain]

sentenced to other players loading while your boost runs out even.

[olive brook]

fr

[white birch]

Utter pain

[crystal iron]

Im making a halo minecraft movie

[velvet root]

yeah

[twin delta]

Is anyone else forced to sign in when loading Infinite? I swear it never used to and it's starting to irritate me

[olive brook]

Like forced to sign into Microsoft?

[twin delta]

Yeah like I haven't ticked "sign in automatically" for example

[olive brook]

But you have logged in?

[twin delta]

Sorry, forced to sign into my Xbox account on Xbox PC app

[olive brook]

That’s normal i think?

I’m not quite sure since i mostly use steam

[twin delta]

But like every time I load the game 💀 Idk it's annoying

[olive brook]

Maybe if you login on the xbox app with your microsoft account it’ll automatically sign you in on infinite

[crystal iron]

H5 Infection is dead?

[limber fox]

If only the settings didn't get resetted every time....

[frigid sphinx]

Are all the other bosses gonna be added to Forge?

Apparantly only Adjutant works

[serene badger]

🤔 yep probably.
I went on 5 today just to play warzone firefight and remind myself what it was like.

[sturdy bane]

anyone wanna help me with halo infinite campaign?

im on the last bit

[coarse dagger]

#lfg-campaign

[uneven olive]

How do you save maps and game types? Does infinite still do a recently played thing so you can save stuff?

[solemn needle]

Go to custom game, edit the game type, then I think it’s X or hold the left thumb stick down to save?

[crystal iron]

When is the first event of this season?

[coarse dagger]

First Operation starts on November 14th

[wraith willow]

as soon as i boot up the Xbox version for the first time in months and matchmake, everyone's gone 🥲

i was playing the PC version earlier and quick play did NOT take this long to find anyone

just got into a match on PC

[ivory glacier]

My game is running terrible tonight. Loading into a match is taking forever and every match I played I had packet loss randomly

[grave ether]

Most of the time packet loss is on your end. Your ISP is losing their mail along the way

[ivory glacier]

Yeah not blaming the game just an annoying night

[wraith willow]

i went to Halo 5, surprisingly fun, despite being 2v4, and having to adjust to the melee and thruster buttons being swapped

[hollow bobcat]

I still hate 10 second respawn timers for certain modes. You're basically just handing the team an objecive capture in koth if you die.

10 seconds + the extra 10 seconds to get back to the objective depending on the map size = Plenty of time for a capture with little resistance. There needs to be more aggression on the objectives in terms of reducing spawn timers.

5 seconds minimum. That's my idea. Keep the action going instead of the typical "let the enemy team score" method.

[uneven olive]

I mean other players made games

[crystal iron]

Well back to Starfeild I'm on e again having trouble joining any custom games

[regal forge]

Guys...HOW on earth do you play the cutstom Battle Royale? I can see it in custom browsers but I can't host or find a game?

[low musk]

Just got the capstone completed. Took about 6 games to get kills with the weapons I needed, but it was worth doing.

[hollow bobcat]

I would assume if I wanted to have the Battle Royale map, I would search a YouTube video and they might have the file located in the Halo waypoint website.

[regal forge]

I have the file. I have it bookmarked. I cannot join another server.

[nimble hound]

everytime i join a custom game from the browser it puts me in the fireteam and people start leaving one by one, not sure if i just find the worst time to join them or my game is bugged the moment i click join.

[noble urchin]

can't wait till official firefight comes out and i never have to play pvp again

[low musk]

I am sure that if you want certain rewards and the like, it may still yet be prudent to still do PVP from time to time

[vapid marten]

If ( Weekly reward == worth it ) {
Do.weekly.challenges()
}
Play.Firefight()

[left snow]

You forgot to add the if(weekly == worth it || FOMO) { ... }

And calling the function Complain.Bitterly(343)

[shrewd aspen]

Who is forcing this poor man to play a video game?

[zealous panther]

I mean I completed everything in less then hour. Husky raid basically made for it and it's also fun. I understand the complaints about challenges at release... But now? 3 spnkr kills for an big challenge is a joke. Weekly reward is basically free stuff every week now.

[frosty condor]

Yep

[empty rapids]

can we just get rid of sbmm in quickplay?

game keeps thinking i can carry two noobs and someone with 20 hours while the enemy team gets 2-3 people with 200+ hours in the game

[frosty condor]

It’s working as intended

[zealous panther]

That would be pretty funny to just turn if off for a week or so, then people will moan to turn it back because they have now 3 poor teammates instead of 2 just because of nature of random

[empty rapids]

the game demotes my skbmm rank and then i end up with a 10+kd

it can't figure out how to equally balance games, it's just a neverending cycle for me :/

i overexcell in one game, then underperform the next because the game expects me to "carry"

[frosty condor]

Correct

Play good, stay good

[zealous panther]

Game expecting you to carry is not the reason of your underperforming. It can be the reason you lose the game, but not your underperforming

[left snow]

Or, if I can run with the theme... Play chill. Stay chill.

[left snow]

The game is expecting nothing from you except a "par" performance.

And it's the same for every member in the team.

A good player doesn't "carry" just by going positive. And a lesser skilled player can actually "carry" the team by going less negative than expected!

I really don't think your MMR can swing enough to affect the game that much. Unless you're somehow super sweating your MMR to unsustainable levels. You do have some control here.

[vapid marten]

Mm.
For the sake of simplicity I don't include those libraries.

But I see why some would use them.

[vapid marten]

I think "intended" is one of the most difficult words to have a discussion around.
I mean, yeah, sbmm works as intended by making balanced matches on pure rating based on what players are available, which it has been able to do along with some outliers.
Of course, anecdotes are not actual evidence, and we who come forth having experienced some incredibly odd match-ups could also be outliers and most of the population is getting even matches.
However I would like to point out the "player expectation" of having somewhat more evenly skilled player in matches.
Maybe the expectations are misplaced or based on some misunderstanding, but seeing that the system works as intended, makes us scratch our heads as we look at some of the matches we've had, like an Onyx player with 2k+ matches playing against someone who has single digit amount of completed matches.

I don't doubt that the system isn't working as intended, my experience questions what those intentions are and how they're reflected in my experience, and how well they meet my expectations.

[vapid marten]

Also if the intentions align with my expectations and preferences.

[zealous panther]

I just go pew pew. usually when I pew pew good enough my kda became good enough

[edgy brook]

Can aim assist/magnetism be turned off for MnK/PC on Infinite?

[zealous panther]

Isn't it just sensitivity lowering for mkb?

[coarse dagger]

No

[delicate swallow]

Hey group! so I only play two video games (seriously) FIFA and Halo. I have been having an issue lately being able to play in ranked games. It says the wait time is less than a minute and seriously its like it never starts does anyone know why?

[livid fable]

glorious, someone who speaks my language

[livid fable]

another brother from another mother

[left valve]

when's matchmade firefight coming? I don't wanna kep dealing with broken custom games

[ruby knoll]

soon

[sullen kiln]

Firefight: King of the Hill is scheduled to come later in Season 5, per the release trailer and announcement

[steep mantle]

Is anyone know how u can make waves with the Ai in Forge? I'm a bit curious how can u make maps that kinda like an firefight.

[frosty condor]

Maybe ask in #lfg-forge

[hot axle]

Man, the ranked players going for -10 KDA and not picking up the Oddball need to be considered for griefing bans

[visual cove]

Pretty sure the answer's yes but are the Legends shorts canon?

[frosty condor]

Yep

Jk idk

Better place to ask that is in #lore-and-universe

[visual cove]

Got an answer. All except Odd One Out.

[dusk thunder]

Get into games that absolutely destroy me… no problem. Finally get into a game with a competent team and we’re probably gonna win? “There’s been a problem with the Halo Infinite servers.”

[slim flint]

sometimes Halo Infinite just doesn’t want you to have fun

[dusk thunder]

The only thing “Infinite” about it for the last two years has been the frustration.

But I’ve been a diehard Halo fan since 2001 so I keep coming back

Hoping

[slim flint]

infinitely overpriced items?

[serene badger]

Ha.

Half of the time, I play campaign. Which comes with its own frustrations...

[dusk thunder]

Something must be wrong with the servers because now all the playlists say that there aren’t enough players to estimate a wait time and the play button is grayed out.

[vivid light]

Yeah my buddy and I got booted off servers

[dusk thunder]

I finally get a day to play the game and now this

[coarse dagger]

https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=11608840199188

Can you do an outage report if it's not working for you after restarting

[vapid marten]

"outrage" report

[vivid light]

It didn't work after restarting but as I was typing the report they came back

[vapid marten]

I wonder how it predicts quitters and afkers. Because I haven't had fun and that was because people quit and afked

[rugged quartz]

Yeah if it is starting to come back for players, sometimes it's good to wait a bit more. it happens

[magic loom]

Does anyone know anything on the cut missions from Halo Reach? was the Scarab mission is the only one we know at this time? some say there were 4 cut im really curious

[hot axle]

Most of the time.

Amount of quitters is insane.

[marble halo]

I really hope they bring the old shotgun back

I actually hate this new one it feels so garbage. It’s a glorified halo 3 mauler

[left snow]

I love the Bulldog. It's an awesome weapon in it's own right. But I also miss the classic shottie. Hopefully they at least bring it back for customs.

[marble halo]

It feels so frustating since its not a proper power weapon anymore. I think if the 2 shot kill felt more consistent I would like it more.

If you play against competent people it feels like they can just perfect you before you get 3 shots off

[nimble ravine]

Has the SBMM felt more rough today to anyone else?

[languid ridge]

A pistol kills faster than the shotgun

And that just ain't right

[vast nova]

you saying that reminds me of halo 1

[slim flint]

I feel like I remember something about 343 trying to “return to halo ce” with Infinite

and I’ve been counting a bunch of examples that probably weren’t what they meant

[magic loom]

When playing Infinite it does have some weird CE feel

[glacial tartan]

As populations drop sbmm will feel worse.

[molten gate]

Light Bloom: Halo Reach / 2 (Classic)

[hollow bobcat]

I want it to be rougher. Bring it.

[ruby knoll]

mcc moments tbh

[low musk]

Less than 12 hours for the shop update. 13 for the Weekly reset

[orchid kindle]

[low musk]

I wonder how 343 means it when they say they will drop the Firefight playlist. I know they say 'midseason', but I wonder if that will be near the end of November, or sometime in December

[limpid lance]

Yo! Did you hear Bungie fired a bunch of their employees?

Among them includes Michael Salvatori

I'm so sorry to him

He deserves better, he's a musical genius as much as Marty
Maybe he could return to Halo

[coarse dagger]

All they've said so far is 'Later in Season 5', as far as I'm aware

[round forge]

Has anyone here been having connection issues since the season 5 update. Not just in matches but in the menus loading.

[rich swan]

Can I ask if you are supposed to receive any silver cosmetics after reaching silver in halo infinite? I got a bronze cosmetic for every bronze rank I reached but have so far not got any silver cosmetic.

[onyx latch]

Likely around Nov 14th, because that's when the Mountain Dew skins come out.

[hot axle]

Can you block people and prevent them from being on your team again..?

[vapid marten]

Not really, atleast the latest information I got regarding the topic was that it's not possible to block in order to not play with any players.
Otherwise you could block people who are better than you, then it'd lead to matchmaking issues.

Mute -> Ingame solution for team mates being disruptive
Block -> Platform solution if they harass outside of the game
Report -> Hopeful solution that the receiving player is handled by the devs

These are your tools.

[grim mango]

hello, can you play forge offline in infinite ?

[hot axle]

You unfortunately cannot report someone for consistently playing horribly, so there's nothing there lol

Most people don't talk, it's that they don't ping, play with the team, or listen to anything. Population is small enough, but there are consistent names that keep popping up that make games so much harder than they need to be. Always on my team.

MM leaves a lot to be desired in this game sometimes, so many unbalanced matches.

[white birch]

Lets be real here, reporting people for being a bad player would get abused to hell and back.

Actively greifing and causing problems, sure. But going 2 and 24 in BTB...

You playing Ranked or something, cause the likelyhood of me running into people I recognize playing most game modes is fairly low.

[hot axle]

Ranked only.

[vapid marten]

Yeah, reporting people for simply playing the game isn't going to work. Reports are for misbehaving.

Whenever the topic comes up I always assume it's due to misbehaving.

[hot axle]

Nah, not always. Report the quitters, get annoyed with the players who keep turning up and not doing anything. Want to block them and get rid of them lol

[white birch]

The answer is simple;
stop playing ranked

[vapid marten]

I count quitting and afking as "misbehaving"

[hot axle]

But I consider the people going like 2-12 and not picking up Oddball griefing

Which doesn't seem to be a reportable offense 😄

[white birch]

It is not.

[vapid marten]

Griefing is intentional, being bad isn't

It's not their fault they get put in the same match as you, and on top of that you can prevent matching with them by partying up with others.

Unless you're some mega-top-ranker, there's bigger fish out there and if you consider players below you being a reportable "offense", then those better than you "would" be allowed to report you for "being bad" as well.

[hot axle]

We all have bad games, that's fine. It's the lack of teamwork from people playing far too casually which I find annoying

[vapid marten]

And to prevent that, you team up

[analog salmon]

unironically get better

idk what rank you are but at a certain level everyone is sweaty

and playing to win

[hot axle]

It's not in Diamond apparently lol

Coping that it's in Onyx

[analog salmon]

honestly people are just bad, not playing casually. some people reach diamond and higher with just good aim and zero game sense

all you can do is keep trying to get better and work around them. i was diamond all last season havent qualified this season yet

placed i should say

[hot axle]

I only came back towards the end of last season

[analog salmon]

i got burnt out by how much slayer there is in ranked arena and hearing they havent addressed that has put me off a bit

wish they would just make ranked slayer and ranker arena both permanent playlists so arena doesn't need to be 50% slayer or whatever it is

[white birch]

Especially when its, you know, ranked

[last birch]

hiiiii

[white birch]

Funnily enough if they make Ranked Slayer its own permenant thing that MIGHT make Ranked Arena easier.

[last birch]

does anyone have tips for ranking up in ranked arena

[crystal iron]

Play with people

[analog salmon]

what if i dont like people

just kidding i have a few peeps to play with im just lazy

[vivid light]

I get Slayer maybe 2/10 games

[vivid light]

Make plays off your teammates. Try not to put yourself in situations where you'd end up in a 1v1. Individual skill is great, but reducing risks and maintaining health for all teammates is better so you can continue to new fights and move objectives faster and easier

[analog salmon]

good to know

[vivid light]

It's probably just luck tho

[last birch]

i feel like my teammates are constantly splitting up 😭😭😭

[vivid light]

Only advice on that is to make the split second decision of who is more important to keep alive. Go with whoever is setting up for a power position or better spawn location

[last birch]

hmmm okay and any tips on how to take back a game where you’re getting absolutely SLAMMED cause it feels helpless sometimes

[vivid light]

That can't be all on you. You're one fourth of a team. Just try to maintain composure and make the smartest decisions. You can only hope the other three are on the same page. Every game is winnable

If you lose then just learn from the experience. Own up to what you did wrong, watch what others did wrong, and observe what they did right and would like to improve on yourself

Not gonna be goated and win everything right off the bat. Best way to look at this time period in ranked for yourself is as practice. You can dedicate a smaller time to getting your rear toasted and learn from it or you can spend a long time getting the same treatment and learn nothing from it

[last birch]

what about like in things like the zones mode where u have to be split up

[tepid hatch]

Wow, these store prices have been getting worse and they are especially horrible this week

[vapid marten]

You determine if you need to be on offense or defense. I'm probably doing it wrong but I like to have and keep two points as its easier to move between them and defend rather than constantly move between and capture one out of three points

As it features specific areas then allies will congregate there. Issues are when players congaline to dangerous places and get picked off 1vTeam

[last birch]

exactly, but i defend one point and my teammates instantly become useless and capture neither of the other zones, they dont do offense or defense, they just go for kills

[vapid marten]

While you do function as a team, and you're part of it, you can't be responsible for your team mates.
I mean, I don't think anyone here will be able to tell you how to win a game on your own with team mates who do not play the objective.
Only way that's going to happen is if they're good enough to keep the opposing team in their respawn screens for the majority of the match.

The only actual way you'll have consistency is by teaming up with other players who you deem to be "functional"

Randos will rando

[last birch]

ugh i hate that i have no friends who play halo

this would be so much easier if i could actually have teammates who i can rely on

[coarse dagger]

Try the LFG channels?

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[sleek hatch]

https://fixupx.com/HaloSupport/status/1719413241330180595?s=20

[white birch]

Wheeee

[zealous panther]

New flood armour looks absolutely sick. I'd say it is worth the price tag

[signal ivy]

the duality of man

[rugged quartz]

The kit looks good but price is really not it

[zealous panther]

Idk, looks like almost new model to me. I'm not going to buy it, but If I would want to buy it I'd give my money for it.

[uneven bison]

Yes, any chance to make mark v b look dumb is worth money

[zealous panther]

Eh?

[thick sparrow]

If your a PC forger looking for a new tool to help supplement your process check this out! #1168985403311800355 would love to hear some feedback and play on your maps

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/9H9Pj2YhpyQ?feature=shared

[wide trout]

https://fixupx.com/_okom/status/1719424010230825157?s=46&t=EsfAsdhUoldfJcyweGd1aw

[ruby knoll]

it'd be interesting to have a way to officially be able to hand edit coordinates and such

[vapid marten]

hand edit?

[ruby knoll]

forge maps aren't maps per se, but basically "instructions" that say "put this here" or "turn this sideways"

like i don't think any models or geometries are edited

[vapid marten]

Ah, you mean actually modeling a map

I thought you meant writing the exact locations, rotations and scales in forge

[ruby knoll]

iirc, how the blender thing works is by generating those instructions

[ruby knoll]

ah nah, i meant the latter thing but just as a text thing

[vapid marten]

Can't imagine any other way, make map in blender, then the app "translates" it and does all the commands in forge while you sleep to create the map, or whatever else you may do while it creates the map.

[wide trout]

i’ve never actually dealt with forge but if i’m not mistaken, you can’t exactly hand edit location/scale/rotation values, right?

you have to do it manually via game controls

that’s how it was in previous games at least

[vapid marten]

You can edit all objects' location, rotation and scale by editing them

They've added that much

I don't recall all the names and whatnot now, but when you select an item on the map, and press whatever you press to add new items, you can scroll right on the tabs to open up a new menu for the selected item. There you can edit all kinds of stuff, among other things, location, rotation and scale

[wide trout]

but can you actually edit the number values?

[vapid marten]

yeap

[wide trout]

oh, neat

well then i guess it’s just a tool for those who are more familiar with blender’s workflow like me

[vapid marten]

Don't fret, the Forge UI is not by any means fast

[wide trout]

I don’t think any engine editing tools are

[vapid marten]

Well, sure, but Forge's issue is that it's so many button presses and disables just to edit those three attributes for whatever you've selected

I've played around with a few map editors in my day and Forge, while powerful isn't really one of the better ones when it comes to object editing

select object(s), open new meny, scroll to new tab, find attribute, edit it.

[wide trout]

I wonder when we’ll be able to import custom geo into Infinite forge

[vapid marten]

The biggest issue I have is that when the menu is open, I can't interact with anything outside of the menu. In blender I can translate something so I get a rough estimate of where the mesh / object is, then write the coordinates for real.

time consuming in forge

I don't think we will be able to. Suspecting we'd need a standalone map editor for that.
There's too much stuff needed for custom meshes which the game most likely require

Well, time to learn how that works, and then make a firefight map, woop woop

but first, bed, and then work

[crystal iron]

When is the trailer for season 6

[hollow dagger]

Since we're talking about forge, I have one noob question: How do I make sure that one non-static object can constantly follow the player or another movable object?
Like I know the action "set position to object" but it does it once it triggers

[crystal iron]

thanks for removing Heavies 343

the gamemode me and my friends had so much fun on

gone

[signal ivy]

it's a rotational playlist

[crystal iron]

good job with season 5 but add back heavies man

[signal ivy]

it rotates in and out

[crystal iron]

thats stupid

so i have something good for few weeks then gone i cant play

[white birch]

If thats the only mode you enjoy, you must really like getting stomped by people on the other team.
Cause thats ALL that happened to me in Heavies. Call it a Midwest Field cause it was farmers for DAYS

[olive brook]

When’s big team heavies coming back?

[pale nacelle]

yall at 343 know... now you have modled the ce magn um in infinite, could you like, make it useable 😉

[limber fox]

Hello. At "C:\Users\ ***\AppData\Local\HaloInfinite\Settings" it's supposed to have a file. I don't! that's why my settings are resetting. Can anyone send me via DM his settings file so i can then save the ones i want ?

[hollow dagger]

are you on Steam or Xbox PC? Have you tried going in the settings and use the scan for fixes option?

[limber fox]

Steam

[limber fox]

where to find that

You mean on steam? @hollow dagger

I did that Steam scan but the json file isn't there at all. Can anyone send it to me via DM?

[limber fox]

Please, this is crucial

[young glen]

I dm'd you.

[crystal iron]

i used to love stomping people on heavies

plus this game has sbmm

[coarse dagger]

I don't think there's any multiplayer game out right now that doesn't

[crystal iron]

who knows they remove there own content all the time heck they may aswell delete this new infected btb cos that sucks

[ruby knoll]

i mean some people didn't like Heavies and some people like btb infection

[marble halo]

Heavies was terrible there I said it

[misty vale]

The folks who hate heavies also hate freedom, and complain about fun!

[onyx latch]

Based

[marble halo]

Compared to classic halo btb, infinite BTB basically already is heavies

Infinite heavies was just for people that go 3-27 and go haha explody fun xD

[onyx latch]

I miss some of the old school Reach BTB maps tbh.

[misty vale]

BTB easy 40 spot but who cares it's F U N

[marble halo]

Regular btb needs a bit balance refresh too but considering they can’t even fix the uneven vehicle spawns I don’t have high hopes

[remote geode]

oh, this seems the right Halo discord to join, the other one I found was all but dead heh

[misty vale]

It's not competitive, go steal a enemy vehicle

Ramming Speed, etc

Ez kills, ez life, btbh life

[marble halo]

Wish they’d weight CTF more, and add in some one sided modes

[remote geode]

I had a quick question/comment about Infinite....it's the only game I've played in a while that has long a long initial load time, and it happens everytime I start the game up. I noticed my cpu temp ramps up to above 80c, which usually means that a game is optimizing shaders. That only happens though once per game per gpu driver version. Does Halo Infinite happen to have to optimize shaders every time you run the game?

[misty vale]

Heavies with 1F would be dope just move where the flag and base is on the map

[misty vale]

The fixed driver came out today update driver.

[remote geode]

driver for...

[misty vale]

Gpu

[remote geode]

how do you know what gpu i have ;p

[misty vale]

Bc it's a common bug

[remote geode]

oh

[misty vale]

Also, I am psychic

[remote geode]

coincidence then that whewn I ask about it, the answer was just released lol

no one else seemed to know anything about it, but that's not surprising

the channel I usually ask about pc stuff i'm now banned in, but regardles of that, it took a while for me to convince them that optimizing shaders was affecting my cpu temperature and not my gpu

kinda funny i had to do that to 'experts'

but thx for that, you even beat geforce experience from telling me i had a driver update ;p

[misty vale]

You're welcome. Now i gotta go back to shilling for btbh to return. Woat playlist removal. Gonna have to hear from the sweats that btbh is back in the btb list

[split oracle]

is there a website or smth that can let me a create and preview a spartan cause i can only view 1 item at a time in the game

[misty vale]

FREE BIG TEAM BATTLE HEAVIES GOAT MODE

[glacial tartan]

Even better - match composer 😄

[remote geode]

i jsut started playing this game a week or 2 ago heh, first halo game oddly

well, aside from Spartan Assault

hmm, still took a couple minutes for the game to load, but i'll have to try again since i did just update the driver lol

[crystal iron]

And it's gone.....

My fav mode deleted

[sullen anvil]

heyheyy if sbmm can just be turned down a tad just a little smidge a minuscule nudge so I can play the game that would be greatly appreciatedd <33

[crystal iron]

Yeah also stop removing playlists pls ❤️

[coarse dagger]

Stop

You've already been asked to move on

[sullen anvil]

me or steady?? This is the first time I’ve ever talked in this chat today

[coarse dagger]

Not you, you're fine

[remote geode]

sounds like me when I complain about Destiny 2's moire issues

which is more like an itch that you can't reach to scratch lol

[hollow bobcat]

In my opinion, I don't see the reasoning for having two large-scale modes at the same time.

Unless there is a drastic difference between the two. Otherwise, I don't see a major difference between squad battles and BTB.

[crystal iron]

Been like that for years bro

[remote geode]

well, tbf that's the same situation as how in destiny 2, Elimination and Trials of Osiris were the same thing, and the poeple in the discord server's defense was that it's always been like that

always being like that doesn't really mean whether it's right or makes sense or whatnot

[misty vale]

Lots of things in life only make sense through the lens of 'its always been like dat'. It do actually be the reason.

[remote geode]

it can be a reason, or an excuse ;p

[crystal iron]

More content the better

[remote geode]

when it comes to things like game feedback though it can be hard to say what is actually "correct"

[remote geode]

quantity and quality and 2 different things

[crystal iron]

Yes and quality was heavies

Total chaos and pure fun with a lot of tanks on the map and bunch of power weapons compared to regular btb

But anyway since everyone seems to defend 343 for removing content then so be that's where I'll end it.

[remote geode]

i can't speak for any details since i just started playing the game ha

my arguements are just about games in general

[hollow bobcat]

One of my ideas was have a BTB where it's just tanks. You can't go on foot and you still take objectives.

[crystal iron]

Bro I've been playing halo since i was a little kid

[crystal iron]

Good idea but maps won't be able yo handle that many tanks

[hollow bobcat]

I've been playing Halo since it first came out when I was only 16.

[remote geode]

i remember when I worked at an electronics shop in 2002-2004 we hosted a lan and one of the games was halo or halo 2, i dont know what was out at that time

but i enver played it

[crystal iron]

The old halo those were the days

[remote geode]

for some reason I always assumed Halo was xbox only

or was it

[crystal iron]

It was

Halo came to pc few years ago

[remote geode]

i think it's Gears of War i'm thinking of that started with xbox and pc, then pc was removed for a while, and then it came back. And I've only played Gears 5 ha

[coarse dagger]

It was Xbox only until 2003

[remote geode]

ah ok, makes sense then

[crystal iron]

Halo 1 and 2 were on vista or xp something

[remote geode]

my first halo game was Spartan Assault, i bought that on steam in 2015

[crystal iron]

But nobody talks about them lol

[remote geode]

but i kinda dont really consider it as playing a halo game since you suually think of the fps' and not overhead

[crystal iron]

That's like the worst one, go play halo 1, 2, 3, odst, reach man

Infinite also

[remote geode]

I have infinite

it's the first one ive played that's first person

[crystal iron]

Damn

[remote geode]

which makes me wonder why Bungie is behind

they still using an old halo engine ;p

[crystal iron]

Well if u were a old halo fan u would feel my pain when old modes get deleted

[remote geode]

i do with destiny 2

i never even heard of Destiny until when shadowkeep came to PC a couple years ago

and yeah it's annoying when they sunset old content

whatever u just typed i didn't see lol

[crystal iron]

Played destiny 1 a lot

[remote geode]

ah, yeah i played 2 quite a lot

not so much anymore but I do sitll enjoy it, i just don't enjoy the playerbase much

[crystal iron]

I wonder what marathon will be like when new bungie release that

[remote geode]

would be funny if they use the same engine, but i doubt they would do that lol....i dont think they would anyways

[crystal iron]

Probs be newer engine

[remote geode]

it better be, since i think destiny 1 and 2 use what, the halo reach engine?

[crystal iron]

Wonder if 343 are making halo 7 it will deffo be on a different engine because the engine halo infinite is built on is flawed, halo infinite had many problems and still has desync

[remote geode]

infinite is great so far but eyah it has it's issues

[crystal iron]

No not reach engine I don't think

[remote geode]

desync?

[remote geode]

lemme check to see which one it was then, curious now

[crystal iron]

Sometimes ur bullets and punches are out of sync and many other things

Hasn't been fixed since it came out it has gotten better but still there

[remote geode]

Blam Engine

well, it's called Tiger Engine but it's a modified Blam Engine

https://www.halopedia.org/Blam_engine#Tiger_Engine

oh ok i guess it was used in almost all of them, and was replaced by the one in Infinite

[crystal iron]

Slipspace engine, a lot of development issues during halo infinite also rushed by Microsoft

[remote geode]

i'm not surprised, almost everything seems rushed these days

[crystal iron]

Yup

I think it has to do with game graphics

[remote geode]

it's just following the technology curve and society but that doesn't mean it's right

try slowing it down now and you'll have hell to pay ha

[remote geode]

well that's just parallel to technology in general

[crystal iron]

Yup

[remote geode]

i dont know if it's just me but i find myself punching a lot in the game

campaign and multiplayer both ha

probably because in d2 I play a Titan, but it's quite effective in this game too

wouldn't work well tho in those Heavies mode you speak of I bet lol

...which actrually I did play a couple 12v12 and tried punching a vehicle when it was too close lol

[crystal iron]

Try punching a fusion coil

[remote geode]

Oh i have already lol

[crystal iron]

Haha

[remote geode]

movement forward and backward is the same speed it seems in multiplayer yes?

walking or running*

seems hard to melee if you dont catch them in time in range

otherwise I feel like a boss being kited lol

[young shore]

Btb infection is fun, but zombies are a bit too fast and jump a bit too high

Also infection in general is flawed because you spawn with barely any ammo

[leaden mountain]

free big team heavies ✊

[young shore]

At least 3 mags would be nice

[crystal iron]

Add more maps to squad battle

[left snow]

Would any of the upcoming Mountain Dew H3 maps be suitable for Squad Battle?

[left snow]

Better still - tighten it up. Reduce the gap between the best and worst in each team.

[sullen anvil]

and proceeds to make the game unplayable outside the US

[crystal iron]

Don't think so

[hollow bobcat]

Stop.

Just stop.

[sullen anvil]

nah its already ruining enough experiences

[hollow bobcat]

Just yours. I prefer it because sweating is amazing. If you're outside of the US, that's not a problem with the algorithm.

[hollow bobcat]

Wait, aren't you in NA?

[leaden mountain]

canada is also in NA

[sullen anvil]

there are literally thousands of complaints every day about it. do some research for once

[hollow bobcat]

Anyone demanding the algorithm to be reduced just wants bad players. Otherwise, stick to the "SBMM in social modes" thread.

complaints don't mean anything.

[sullen anvil]

just like how strict sbmm doesnt mean anything either in a casual setting

only there to make the game a chore

[hollow bobcat]

Who says the game is supposed to be casual?

[sullen anvil]

an overwhelming majority of the general gaming audience

[hollow bobcat]

So what I don't play casually?

[sullen anvil]

this says so

[hollow bobcat]

So what If I don't play casually?

[sullen anvil]

then you dont play casually, simple as that. Im not saying that everyone should mentally handicap themselves for the good of other players, Im simply saying sbmm should be greatly reduced because the game actively punishes you for doing good, more unbalanced lobbies, its fun for no one

[hollow bobcat]

Competition isn't punishing. It's unpredictable. People just want to win more often against the weaker opposition and they can't do that unless the algorithm is weaker. That's the entire point of the argument against SBMM.

[sullen anvil]

clearly thats not the case in this game. The competition is very predictable and there are balances in place that will actively try to give you harder and harder lobbies to make you lose

[hollow bobcat]

Like I said, go to "SBMM in social modes" thread.

[sullen anvil]

that thread isnt even a thing

[hollow bobcat]

Mint Blitz fan, I take it?

[sullen anvil]

No im a halo fan that wants to have a good time

mint blitz doesnt speak for me

[hollow bobcat]

Then have a good time. If you lose, that's normal. Otherwise, play a different mode, custom games, or a different game. We're not going to stop trying hard just to make you feel happy.

[sullen anvil]

I understand that losing is normal, but when its a guarantee loss based off some algorithm thats where I cry foul

[hollow bobcat]

What determines your wins and losses is you.

There is no such thing as a "guarantee". That's ludicrous thinking that stems from YouTubers.

[sullen anvil]

right so im just gonna carry a 1v4?

[tepid latch]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1161394968871579819

[sullen anvil]

Im just expected to do that???

[hollow bobcat]

shrug Blam happens.

[tepid latch]

there's no guaruntee loss

the system works for a 50/50 win for either team

[sullen anvil]

yet with each game I play I notice how the enemy team skill rating subtly increases more

[hollow bobcat]

Anyway, the large Infection mode is wacky. A bit too wacky to the point of it not being very functional. IMO, Infection would be better with regular maps replaced entirely with unique forge maps (along with removing the camo upgrade).

[tepid latch]

? thats how you know you're doing better? because the enemy is also getting better

[hollow bobcat]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1161394968871579819

[sullen anvil]

but in return im getting worse teammates

[tepid latch]

Yeah, cuz of the loose sbmm

[hollow bobcat]

Seriously, here. https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1161394968871579819

[tepid latch]

literally @sullen anvil go to that thread

thats where this whole discussion is

[left snow]

With each game that you win and/or play better - then you can see how the enemy team subtly increases. It's an important distinction.

[hollow bobcat]

I want rocket race

[left snow]

Thousands of complaints... treading the same tired arguments... largely echoing a bunch of streamers who have a vested self interest in getting rid of SBMM.

It's frustrating because we should be discussing how to optimise SBMM (which it desperately needs in Infinte)- not wasting time trying to get it taken down.

[hollow bobcat]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1161394968871579819

[tepid latch]

was refreshing to see some CoD players on twt say it needs an overhaul instead of to be completely removed, I wish more people could actually understand that SBMM has been in Halo for the longest time and stop blaming it on stuff like EOMM. It just needs some work

[noble urchin]

man.. i would buy the new bandit weapon model if i was actually good with that gun 😞

[left snow]

It does take a bit of effort. But it's worth it - I noticed that last night I was hitting way more shots with the sidekick and commando... it's just a different beast from the BR.

I remember a coaching guide for the H5 magnum - count your four body shots. Spam them. 1-2-3-4. But then take a moment to draw breath and aim for the head. Once you get into a rhythm you'll start to win more 1v1.

[sullen anvil]

^

[celest heron]

love getting the ravanger 6 times in a super fiesta game. totally not a useless weapon

[tepid latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4It6GBGJhc

[crystal iron]

Sbmm is trash indeed get that crap outta here

I have 1.7kd and was onyx in season 1 I get put against tryhards all the time

I can't believe people defend the removal of fan favourite modes and skill based matchmaking

Atleast the sbmm isn't as bad as call of duty

[tepid latch]

are you still on about the removal of heavies?

its a rotational playlist, it doesnt get played as much as other playlists.

if every playlist was made permanent then the player base would be spread so thin noone would be finding games. wait til it comes back or play something else my guy

[crystal iron]

Btb heavies shouldn't be rotational it's a staple of halo multiplayer

[tepid latch]

BTB is a staple, i wouldn't say Heavies is

[crystal iron]

Plus I haven't seen proof it was played less than other modes

[tepid latch]

343 doesnt show stats for any of their playlists, the proof is that the mode was rotated out and hasnt been made permanent in all its time being in infinite

[crystal iron]

Exactly so you can't say it had less players I think they added it because they wanted to put that new crappy btb infection mode in then there would be 3 btb modes

Simple stop removing modes people enjoy.

[tepid latch]

*modes you enjoy

[crystal iron]

Not just me a lot of halo fans

[tepid latch]

where's the proof?

[grave ether]

You're still on that?

[tepid latch]

if every playlist was made permanent then the player base would be spread so thin noone would be finding games. wait til it comes back or play something else my guy