halo-discussion

[fallow crow]

really no fun playlists anymore

[crystal iron]

If your into PVE you will be getting more playlist options soon

[nocturne crypt]

Does anyone knows why halo infinite crash on pc when I load to campaign

But I can play multiplayer fine

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[woeful aurora]

The Answer

[wide trout]

https://fixupx.com/xlr8_live/status/1712333486827127138?

For those who have been complaining about stuttering and performance issues

[crystal iron]

It was Both the Answer and The Solution lol

[lunar sun]

What would y'all say the most populated playlists in MCC are as of late? I'm looking to breeze thru some matches while I'm watching some stuff since I got a couple hours to kill but lately it's been taking forever to find matches

[crystal iron]

4v4 as a whole. People mostly play modes from that category and most populated of them are probably slayer and objective modes

[lunar sun]

gotcha! ty

[crystal iron]

No problem

[tight palm]

I feel the opposite generally, I like how it uplifts weapons like the Bulldog and the Sidekick to be really powerful. I wish the Longshot felt better though.

[civic sundial]

You know something I really hope someone does once AI in Forge releases for Infinite, I'd love it if someone recreated Mercenaries from Resident Evil with it

[misty vale]

https://tenor.com/view/were-waiting-angry-mad-gif-4318766

[celest heron]

now we just need a console fix.

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[misty silo]

Ouuu got a little more info on the upcoming AI in Forge
https://youtu.be/htx-ZEKruQg?t=2087

Scipting/Node Graph stuff sounds wild

[formal canopy]

Okay I started playing again after a long time and I'm quite surprised I finished all my challenges without even looking at them once. Just played how I wanted and it was all done. Now that's what I call good challenges ^^

[misty silo]

Been playing more regularly since the trailer, Im so excited for Season 5 haha

[severe plaza]

The grind for the master Chief armor kit will be pain

but so worth it

[misty silo]

One day I hope to reach it haha, Im most excited tho for Mk V (CE is my fav Halo game and armour)

[severe plaza]

Same, I think they will make you have to complete the campaign on legendary in order to get it though 😭

[rapid hamlet]

Quick question! How do you claim the banners for MCC that are always on Steam? 😅

I've tried once in a while to get one, but when I check the game I don't have them in my inventory

[lusty wraith]

I wonder if FF will have loadouts

[trim wasp]

Good thought. I hope!

[lusty wraith]

Also good to see Phantom drops are going to be a thing, wonder if enemy vehicles will work too

And also the FF music 👀👀

[civic sundial]

I am sure we'll see enemy vehicles as well

[lusty wraith]

I’m trying to think of tracks that’ll work in FF from campaign, we’re missing a lot of pure percussive stuff so maybe we’ll get some new music? Would be sick

I mean hopefully we get music at all lmao, counting my chickens 🐔

[rapid hamlet]

[trim wasp]

I'm sure they'll add them eventually if not right away. We do know that the entire cast of Banished enemies is available at the start of Season 5 for use with the Forge AI pallet

[low musk]

I wonder if you can make some of the forgeable AI to be on separate teams so you can create large scale battles between factions of the Banished/Covenant and the UNSC soldiers

Then there is the question of how many total AI characters that can be on the map at the same time

[onyx latch]

Lowkey, enemy count is something I'm worried about.

[low musk]

I'm honestly hoping for 2 or maybe 3 dozen

[white birch]

Its a King of the Hill game mode so it probably wont be enormous.

I just hope theres more maps than the House of Reckoning...though that drop with the Phantom seemed to show a new map, almost looked like a BTB one.

Firefight on BTB maps could be interesting, it worked pretty good for Warzone FF

[low musk]

Warzone Firefight had tons of enemies. Almost to an insane degree

[rapid hamlet]

It won't be an issue since I believe like any AI they could cycle so they just don't respawn at the same place all the time, I believe it'll depend on the type of enemy

[rapid hamlet]

yeah but you were against the other team as well, plus they didn't spawn at insane rates

[low musk]

Hopefully we'll see what is in store for us by the time the update drops. I'm pretty excited for the season all the same.

Thankfully I don't have to worry about credits when it does happen. Been shoring up Microsoft rewards points for awhile now. To get the 100 dollar card, you have to accumulate 91k points. I'm roughly 89k now. Hard to say if will get it the day the season drops, maybe a day or two after. I have 5 days, so I just need to keep at it..

[white birch]

You hitting everything that they offer on all devices? I'm getting ~550 points a day

[shrewd aspen]

Give Falcon

I need it

[rapid hamlet]

I would love to hijack falcons with the grappling hook

[civic sundial]

That was on Oasis

[white birch]

Oh heck yeah, maybe it's on all BTB maps then

[civic sundial]

Those are the maps I'd pick for Firefight first honestly

[full warren]

I knew I should not played squad battle it is such bad balanced mode

literaly joins mid way through a game and my team was so bad there is about 3 people quitting instantly

[sudden gale]

Question: with forge ai, would it be possible to make parts of rubicon protocal in infinite?

[vivid light]

What does that have to do with the mode?

[crystal iron]

I think there was an issue with the spawning, there is a map that you can basically spawn camp with little effort.

[vivid light]

You can do that on any map if your team is in the right spots

Idk the situation but I always chalk it up to skill/knowledge difference in Halo

[low musk]

Pretty much. I do the searches for the pc, edge, and phone. I do the 30 points of news searches. The daily sets like the polls and quizzes. I even do the daily/weekly/monthly challenges on the xbox since I have Gamepass. I only need about 1.8k points so I might be able to get it in time

Not sure if it’s more of a cost benefit to get the 50 dollar one. More so now that the seasons in Infinite are getting consistently shorter to actual seasonal content, and not once or twice a year now

[full warren]

its only this game mode that has unbalanced games lol

Like really unbalanced never had a good game on this, either you stomp 75 kill to 10

or you get stomped

And more quitters than even BTB lol

[vivid light]

I've only played 30-40 matches in that mode and had 5 matches that were complete wipes when solo queued with quitters

Never really played BTB

[serene badger]

BTB could use some work, sure. But it has soooo much potential.

[full warren]

I barely find games in squad and when I do its either just one team cycle quitting

or you are stomping not sure why but that mode people love to quit

i seen like 20 people join and quit a team just throughout the game

[pulsar osprey]

wort wort wort

[neon vapor]

Aaawabadudh

[near ermine]

Will there be more campaign for Infinite?

[ruby lake]

i am a fool for missing out the twitch reward for today

[ruby lake]

will the powersuit hero return tomorrow?

[crystal iron]

When is the gravity hammer getting buffed

[stone nimbus]

more like why hasn't it been nerfed

[ruby lake]

i feel like its gotten weaker

or is it just me?

[crystal iron]

It’s legit the worst melee weapon in the game

[ruby lake]

oh

[neon vapor]

Nuh uh, oddball.

[ruby lake]

oh

[crystal iron]

I might be the worst but it's still doesn't need a buff

Well if it’s not in need of a buff it needs to be more consistent

The amount of times I’m a few metres away from someone only to crack shields when they can be double that and instakill me is disgusting

[crystal iron]

That's caused by desyinc

Desyinc can't be fixed

On 20ms ping?

Weird

[crystal iron]

Yes

Any ping which is above 0

Fair enough

[trim wasp]

I heard 32 but I don't remember where I heard that from so take with a big bucket of salt!

[mystic gale]

Hello i need help for today's halo stream

[tepid latch]

sup?

[mystic gale]

Hello

[tepid latch]

what do you need help with?

[mystic gale]

Just to clear some things, making sure i got everything

All i have to do is watch for 3 hours and i will receive a drop

This today, tomorrow and the next day after tomorrow

[tepid latch]

When you're on the Twitch Campaign Page it should tell you how long you have to watch something for and how long you have left before getting the reward!

[mystic gale]

Oh that's cool!

Never done this stuff before

[tepid latch]

all good! my first was last year i think and i was a little nervous bout it lol

https://www.twitch.tv/drops/campaigns if you go here now and ctrl+f halo you can see what a drop campaign would look like

it gives you participating channels, you can have it muted and minimized if you like as long as the video is playing. progress takes a minute or so to update so dont worry if it doesnt immediately

[placid ivy]

Did they say all past events are going to be purchasable as mini battle passes? (i think that's a bit scummy if that's the case)

[crystal iron]

No, they didn’t said anything about past events

[placid ivy]

oh, nvm then. Thanks tho!

[tepid latch]

why would that be scummy tho?

[placid ivy]

Imo that would come off as, its your fault you didnt play our barebone broken game. So now you must pay. If all events had a rerun, it would be a nice sign of good will

i think it would be cool if they reran all the events and anyone that did them gets 500 creds instead

[placid ivy]

But if they are just not making them accessible anymore than fair enough.

[misty vale]

I'll take 500 credits if they make y'all play lss again the whinging during lss was a comedy graveyard

[ruby knoll]

@signal ivy @river minnow

[river minnow]

that is a really cool touch

[ruby lake]

500 creds

r/choosingbeggars

[onyx latch]

Lowkey, I kinda miss LSS, even if I'd probably never play it out of choice again.

[civic sundial]

Oh how I need to see those ships ASAP, show me Arbiter's forces in Infinite already

Because I can't help but wonder what assets are being used for the SOS ships

[onyx latch]

Please be Brigantines Please be Brigantines

[civic sundial]

Hopefully more than just those

I wanna see a Blockade Runner again

[placid ivy]

idk what that means.

[tight palm]

Flag worst ): I remember when it one shot in older games

[trim wasp]

Would you rather NEVER have a shot at those old events you weren't able to play through or would you want to be given the option to pay a little bit to get that pass that is no longer available. Making them available for a cost doesn't mean you have to buy it. It just gives the option. I don't see how you can say giving the option is scummy and then also say you're okay with it not being accessible anymore at all.

[ruby knoll]

personally i think the free events should be free and rerun but if it's made paid it's whatever i guess

[tight palm]

Ditto, events returning is a no brainer to get people playing more for items they've missed out on before.

[ruby knoll]

like i'm not too sold on the new model for upcoming events for the upcoming season but we'll see how it plays out

[civic sundial]

I'd handle it like the Winter Update, just add them in and let people go through those event passes

[smoky wave]

It is what it is

Tbh it is kinda sad there is no mention about the old events with this new event system, maybe they want to first test with this

But it's funny there is going to be a 2000 cr option to skip all 20 levels of the event + something else

[placid ivy]

Yeah, i can see where you are coming from but in my opinion, monetizing more things is always going to be seen as a negative in my eyes as the game launched incredibly poorly. This mainly stems from the fact that this game is still very much unfinished and buggy after 2 years. The store is also incredibly overpriced and uses predatory tactics to artificially inflate the prices. Something like locking old armours behind a paywall bundles that are incredibly high is just one. To recreate my old reach spartan from reach i would have to spend £80 (excluding helmet and coating which would be +£20 probably as they are not in the game yet after 2 years) And this is all because of bundles. Having all of these things and still adding more monetization is just a way to further show players that its still all about money and nothing has really changed from these 2 years. I'm hoping to like this game.

[trim wasp]

The game (come Tuesday) will be feature complete for a Halo game. Is it still buggy? Definitely! However, to say it's an incomplete game is silly. Adding more monetization isn't generally seen as negative. It's a FREE game. They HAVE to monetize things. Again, giving options for some money is far better than no options at all. That's a really REALLY narrow minded view of the situation. At the end of the day, no body should be complaining about more options at all. Complain about the cost, sure, but don't respond by saying you'd rather have no options. Very few people would actually agree with you that no options are better than no options.

Also I'm not defending their prices nor am I agreeing they are insanely high like you say. What i do know is that Fortnite had worse prices for essentially the same content so I don't really mind the prices nor do I think they are as outlandish as most people tend to vocalize.

[ruby knoll]

also it's not like prior halo games weren't monetized. it's all about tradeoffs

ANYWAYS

This is COOL https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2023/10/13/the-forge-ai-toolkit-is-going-to-change-halo-infinite-forever/

"Our North Star for the Forge AI Toolkit was wave-based PvE experiences. Firefight, Horde; things like that are what we expect players will lean into first when they create stuff, but it also has the capacity to do more linear experiences,” explains 343 Industries’ Forge Lead Designer Michael Schorr.

@river minnow dinpfgh

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2023/10/HI_MarineWavesNodegraph_Watermarked_1920x1080-e319ccda64ef57e34b53-1536x864.jpg

[signal ivy]

I'm too dumb to learn any of that lol

[ruby knoll]

One of our engineers here prototyped a tower defense game with the AI. So, there’s a lot of flexibility in these tools.

343 Industries’ Forge Lead Designer Michael Schorr.

[ruby knoll]

don't fall into that trap especially since certain elements of the fanbase use that angle to bash 5/infinite forge

it's all about learning as you go. DotA (the original one) wasn't made in a day after all

"Any time we saw something in the API that we thought would be great for players, we were like, ‘Can we add that to our node graph scripting?’ If the answer was yes, we would put it in there,” shares Kennelly. “I did a count last night and we’re adding over 100 nodes in Season 5. We had about 300 in the game beforehand, so it’s a huge chunk of AI functionality; about 75 just related to AI. We’re just like, ‘Could the players use this to build something wacky?’ If the answer was yes, we’d put it in there so those users could go crazy with all the surprises.”

@onyx latch wacky silly funny

[onyx latch]

!!!!

[serene badger]

🥹
It all sounds so beautiful.

[placid ivy]

I think this way of thinking is flawed. You could say the same about anything with options and monetization. New core? Costs £40 in a bundle, Cross core customization. You can have it if you dish out £60. Don't you not think this is unfair? Because its a free game does not give it a right to rinse peoples pockets. I don't think game monetization is a bad thing but I believe it has to be earnt otherwise you get situations like 343 has now. if infinite came out and it was exactly what they said it would be, and on top of that they had some armour to buy in the store i would be fine to buy it. I had £80 saved up just for the launch of infinite waiting to give them all of it. But instead they got none because everything that was monetized was done so in a way that was not mutually beneficial and the game was in a terrible state. Also because im petty, the game is not going to be halo feature complete on Tuesday because its still going to be missing firefight. Its been 2 years and now we are getting close to a halo game. How on earth is this acceptable while they are trying to monetize everything they can. Also why are we looking for feature complete at launch. That should be the minimum. This is halo and we haven't had one for ages. Where is the new stuff. Instead we launched with less stuff than we had years and years ago. I think all of this culminates in a good reason for us as customers to be upset.

[misty silo]

I realize I shouldn't be surprised but Im so happy to see Marines!!! I honestly didn't know if they'd be in haha

AI tools sounds so exciting though! Really excited to see what people make, would be cool to remake older halo missions and brand new experiences

[civic sundial]

I can definitely see people recreating some old Firefight maps at least

Not sure how easy it's gonna be to recreate entire missions though

[onyx latch]

I would assume it'd be difficult to do either. Forge isn't exactly easy to use for most people.

[misty silo]

I also assume they'll update it over time ,add new nodes and such

[onyx latch]

Not that I mind that Forge is difficult.

[civic sundial]

Easier to recreate a playspace that the player is kept in one area for than an entire level where parts are loaded and deloaded while the player moves through it

[onyx latch]

I'd rather an unintuitive but deep mapmaker over whatever used to pass for a 'map maker' back when Reach was a thing.

[placid ivy]

@onyx latch Thanks for that btw. And i was called immature.

[onyx latch]

Thanks for what?

[placid ivy]

good one

[onyx latch]

???

[onyx latch]

Whatever. Anyways, yeah, I was thinking about it earlier. The most that could really realistically be done with AI in Forge would be something along the lines of early Spartan Ops.

Where the maps were small, MP map sized, and just had fresh enemy waves spawn in when it was convenient/necessary.

[misty silo]

Thye could break it into different maps as-well

[onyx latch]

Like, loading into new maps?

[misty silo]

Yeah, like a longer mission can be broken down into different maps

Would be a bit of a pain but still

[onyx latch]

Oooooh boy. Complicated.

[river minnow]

woo

that's actually really cool, I'd wanna try that

[white birch]

Give the fanbase time. There will be videos on it soon

[trim wasp]

Where did he say this?

[ruby knoll]

.

[trim wasp]

Thanks dude!

[severe plaza]

Halo tower defense gamemode hit different

Best game mode ever fr

[serene badger]

I wasn’t sure what they meant by “tower defense mode”.
But it sounds fun.
I am imagining Tower Battle in Roblox.

[white birch]

Bloons Tower Defense babyyyyy

[serene badger]

Td6?

[placid pasture]

halo 3 was my childhood

first game I played online

[misty silo]

What time is the HCS stream?

[serene badger]

Solid game to start with.

[smoky wave]

343 can't stop, they are cooking so hard oh my god

Also, we know it was already confirmed about bp xp customs but just in case

[scarlet shuttle]

The past 5 game I joined, I was on team who quitted or replaced quitters.

[coarse dagger]

#giveaways

[smoky wave]

https://kotaku.com/halo-infinite-forge-ai-season-5-multiplayer-bots-1850922553 more stuff here btw

[radiant sundial]

cewl

[onyx latch]

I feel so sorry for you. You deserved better than that trash.

[serene badger]

Thanks, that was a good read.

[wanton sigil]

yo can someone give me a tldr on the halo season 5 update and why its changing halo and "fixing it"

[proud rose]

other game cross overs in halo? we already got stuff from halo in other games like master chief in Rainbow six, why not have other ips in halo? like how in Halo 3 we had the hyabussa armour.

[wanton sigil]

they put the master chief in among us

[proud rose]

i forgot

but like other ips in halo

like if they added a DOOM slayer inspired armour on infnite.

[scarlet shuttle]

Thing is, most of the game adding Halo stuff are already adding many stuff from many different IP

It could feel weird to add stuff to Halo, and the game ain’t as mainstream as other games. Usually, when they add Halo stuff in other games, it’s to promote Halo. No ones want/need to promote their games through Halo, Halo doesn’t have a big enough audience I guess.

[proud rose]

i get it

but i think of Hayabussa and how it was added to Halo 3. It was cool

[scarlet shuttle]

It could be fun, but I doubt they will, except if there was some new collaboration with something. They did add a Fall Guys backpack on Master Chief Collection though 😂

Was Hayabusa from another game? I though it was just an original idea from the Halo dev

[proud rose]

its from ninja giden

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-gaiden-gif-25287287

i cannot put gifs here?

[white birch]

No.

[scarlet shuttle]

I clicked it and saw it anyways

[onyx latch]

Hayabusa was based off the main character of the Ninja Gaiden Series, Ryu Hayabusa, as a favor for adding Nicole to the series Dead or Alive.

[proud rose]

oh well. i sent a gif of the ninja giden character

[onyx latch]

Nicole being a Mark VI wearing Spartan.

[scarlet shuttle]

Ok ok

[proud rose]

they need to add lars from metallica armour

jk jk

[scarlet shuttle]

They added Clippy from Microsoft Word 😏

[proud rose]

it kinda sucks we can send gifs, well its their rules

[onyx latch]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-gif-15616299

[proud rose]

• walter white crying gif *

[onyx latch]

Trenchbird on his way to send gifs (he can do it cause he's cool)

[scarlet shuttle]

Thinking about it, I would sure like seeing more weapons charms or even armors add-on (chest, legs, arms) related to other games, at least other Microsoft ip like Sea of Thieves (they added 2 ship set from Halo and weapons like the energy sword in SoT)

[onyx latch]

Halo's always been more of an export crossover franchise for some reason.

[proud rose]

i don't like infinite armour cores. it limits the amount of armour you can use

[scarlet shuttle]

Would even be fun a Sea of Thieves cross-over event with special pirate theme map

An eye-patch to add over our spartan helmet 😆

[proud rose]

they shouldn't exist, it would be better if all armor could be mixed with everything. thankfully season 5 is gonna add helmets to all cores

[uneven bison]

Sea of thieves had several halo crossovers

I have most of the cosmetics

[scarlet shuttle]

Yes but we meant Sea of Thieves inside Halo

[scarlet shuttle]

The problem is that some of them probably don’t fit together

Graphic wise

[proud rose]

yeah, but i hate the idea. it shouldn't have been even made. it limits people so much

[scarlet shuttle]

I’ve seen a few issue in Destiny with some armors looking funky as hell with graphical bugs x)

[scarlet shuttle]

If they aren’t lazy, they could fix them all and make sure you can mix and match.

[onyx latch]

Yeah, we should just have the ugly Reach armor and no cores. Just like Halo Reach!

[proud rose]

we should be going on a better direction now. Halo is now being handled by a diffr
ent team.

[onyx latch]

Wonder how the old team that was setting the groundwork for all this new stuff feels now that they aren't getting any credit for it.

I feel bad for that unappreciated effort.

[proud rose]

I don't mean it like that, I mean it like i wish we could mix everything

[scarlet shuttle]

Well I can’t digest the fact that I am forced to play with and against Super Weapons when I want to play my Fiesta and Husky Raid 🥲 to me, Halo is going downward, but I am still excited for season 5.

[onyx latch]

That's kind of the problem. People said cores are limiting, but they're still allowing for more expression on an individual level than literally every single other Halo.

And that's off the heels of two games where two different full body sets could have wildly different aesthetics.

They're limited in individual scope but the end result is still higher individualism.

[proud rose]

idk, i just want to mix my Japanese armor with my mark v and vi

[misty vale]

skill issue

[proud rose]

i disagree

[ruby lake]

smells like a

[scarlet shuttle]

People saying skill issue but need Super Weapons to kill their opponent, you are a joke.

[ruby lake]

skill issue!

[onyx latch]

Good for you, but it's literally the end result of the core system.

[proud rose]

everyone chill!

[scarlet shuttle]

Tons of clown here, Halloween is near

[ruby lake]

i use smaller weapons to kill!!

*clowns

[misty vale]

"I need small weapon bc my positioning is bad" is all I hear

[onyx latch]

I wish there was a clown color scheme

I'd use it

[proud rose]

thank u for having a civilized convo with me unlike the others

people over here insulting each other

[onyx latch]

🤷‍♂️

Halo discords have high bant counts.

[ruby lake]

why do i feel like a certain somebody is gonna run in here and complain about a thing that's already been told about 100 times?

[scarlet shuttle]

Well everytime you say something against the gameplay, all people can say is “skill issue”. They are less intelligent then the brutes.

[misty vale]

SUPER WEAPONSSS

:shakes fist:

[proud rose]

what do you guys think its gonna be the next story line for halo after season 5?

[ruby lake]

all i can say is that

[lusty wraith]

Silver Timeline but canon

[proud rose]

yeah proably

[ruby lake]

^

[lusty wraith]

Mahkee and Kwan Ha introduction

[proud rose]

i want more story lines with either the covenant or banished. maybe introduce playable elites. now that's a different core i want.

[ruby lake]

everytime i hear the term "playable elites", it makes me scream in eldrich horror

[crystal iron]

I'm ever so closer to being able to wear the right helmet on my MK7

[misty vale]

the game isn't a serious competitive shooter anyway what's wrong with playable elites

[proud rose]

why? that stuff was cool

[crystal iron]

Instantly gets dropped by Linda...

[onyx latch]

Every time someone says 'playable' and 'elites' in the same sentence the timer extends by the amount of time it's been since elites were playable

[ruby lake]

nothing

i just keep hearing the term over and over

im probably losing it

[uneven bison]

Nobody is going to use elites even if 343 adds them

[ruby lake]

.

[misty vale]

I would, they look neat

and also losing in this game doesn't matter at all it's just about blastin spacemen

[onyx latch]

I honestly would every few games, but then, I change cores every other game usually

[lusty wraith]

I used to run Spartan only, but I’ve changed to Elites in MCC just to bother the people here who hate them

[ruby lake]

i dont even care for elites anymore

[proud rose]

because we didn't lose it? the only reason 343 dropped it is because they wanted Halo to be more competitive and they removed them to have everyone have the same hit box

[uneven bison]

I’m triggered by this, change to a spartan immediately

[crystal iron]

It may come back now that they are focusing on a more Just do fun rather than everything competitive type of thing.

Firefight can be a great place to add it in given that it doesn't need to be focused on competitive balance gameplay

[proud rose]

elites were cool, they weren't everyone's cup of tea but it was still cool to have. We truly didn't need to lose it

[uneven bison]

You know what else is cool?

The smoldering husk of Glyke

[proud rose]

yeah yeah yeah

anyway, playable elites

[ruby lake]

if i hear that term one more ti

[proud rose]

343 does mot need to do a lot either. there's a lot elite armor on the campaing

[uneven bison]

Remove elites from canon

Sanghelli don’t feel like halo

[crystal iron]

Firefight is possible the best spot for 343 to bring in assassinations and Playable elites. That mode isn't restricted by competitive balance it's kinda their let loose mode really

[scarlet shuttle]

They could add Elite Only games

[proud rose]

easy cosmetics, don't have to put any work, at least on playable elite lunch

[scarlet shuttle]

With only covenant weapons

[proud rose]

OH! assassinations! thank u fro reminding me how they removed those too

[coarse dagger]

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[proud rose]

i see COD and their executions and how halo created them and then just removed them.

[crystal iron]

I'm telling you Firefight is the best spot for them to Add them in... Even if Elites and Assassinations is exclusive to Forefight it will still be better than nothing.

[onyx latch]

173529201836251 years

[scarlet shuttle]

They could make more money as well, selling Elites cosmetics

[crystal iron]

I enjoyed the Assassination where you swung the enemy Spartan around and stabbed them in the under jaw

[lusty wraith]

I’d want Elites too but this isn’t true

[onyx latch]

Thing is, you need to keep in mind that a lot of changes made to Halo's formula are a direct response to feedback, even if it's not immediately obvious. Removing assassinations is one of them.

[proud rose]

well, this new team behind halo is doing a lot of good things compared to the original team from lunch day,. we can just hope for the game to be the best it can

[onyx latch]

It's gone for the same reason Groundpound is gone.

It's gone for same reason your shields didn't regen in Halo 5 if you sprinted.

Not literally, I mean, but the same concept of 'feedback'.

[crystal iron]

Yea I think the feedback regarding assassinations was mostly because it left you open to counter attacks from enemy teams. That's why I think Firefight exclusive Assassinations would be the best route. Since that made us more about letting lose and not about balanced competitive gameplay

[proud rose]

bro, that doesn't matter. they were cool

[ruby lake]

its luck time

[onyx latch]

Cool was not the incentive. It was a decade of people screaming that loadouts and fun mechanics drove all the comp players to Call of Duty.

[proud rose]

and you can still do an insta kill. In Halo 5, holding melee made and assasination, but tapping melee made a normal back attack. it's the same way in COD

[onyx latch]

Not a joke.

[crystal iron]

I know I enjoyed them and eey much new the risk I took in using one in the midst of a round.

But enough players didn't like them in PVP, but PVE is a whole different animal where the opinions balanced Competitive types really don't matter. So it would be the best time for the return of assassinations

[onyx latch]

Granted, I have tons of fun with Infinite regardless, but keeping a timeline running of who complained about what when is important for establishing lines of causality.

[random wagon]

Playing Halo Infinite via XCloud on Xbox One S is a much more pleasant experience than playing it natively on Xbox One S.

[proud rose]

i gave you a solution

read my message from above

[crystal iron]

I'm not arguing against you man, all I'm saying is Of they dropped it into Regualr PVP the competitive players of Halo Will have a pissy fit.

So it's better to introduce it back into a game mode where competitive players opinions hold no value ...Firefigjt PVE

[proud rose]

if you tap melee on their back it's an insta kill, if you hold it its an assassination.

[crystal iron]

And remember Halo Infinite at its core is just an HCS marketing tool. So they will always buckle to what competitive players want regarding PVP

[proud rose]

im bored, who wants to play with me?

[crystal iron]

Bruh that's a weird thing to be asking us 🤣

[proud rose]

it is a halo server

to discuss and play halo

[young glen]

Use the lfg channels

[crystal iron]

Nevermind it went over your head

[proud rose]

ik i can, but i was also wondering if people here were willing to play

[crystal iron]

But yea Firefight PVE is finally the game mode that 343 can just Block out the opinions of Balanced Competitive players and just go HAM with the fun

[proud rose]

yeah

[crystal iron]

They need to bring back the fuel rod Cannon and So many other weapons and I see firefight being a great way to re introduce some old weapons

I had suggested They bring back weapons using Fiesta but someone tried to counter with How the weapons are about balanced gameplay... I'm over here thinking what is balanced about Fiesta... That mode is anything but balanced it's sapposed to be pure chaos.

Omg but the best is the players that rage when we are losing in fiesta.. like bruh go play ranked if that's your mentality

[mystic gale]

Ok so i am watching the stream all i have to do is watch for 3 hours right?

[coarse dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1159627338439475371

[onyx latch]

The game is built around it. Just for fun modes are excluded but still require dev time to modify 'for the fun of'.

[crystal iron]

I came to my kids Basketball game so I left my laptop on Twitch stream lol. I'm watching in spirit lol

[ruby lake]

wait

the streams are LIVE?

NOW?

[crystal iron]

I'm aware, I'm saying that Firefight is their best bet at bringing in less Competitive focused aspects like Assassinations and playable elites that makes do the casual players want. And other aspects..

It's the one spot where they don't have to listen to Competitive balanced players feedback

The only competitor aspect of Firefight iv ever seen was score attack. Outside of that it was always insanity lol especially the classic gruntpocalypse

[onyx latch]

That isn't a salve for adding in for fun content. That is the for fun content.

[crystal iron]

I don't think your understanding the point. The players that want assassinations back more than likely won't get them back in PVP, so their best bet is to try and get that feature into the PVE stuff. So that's where they need to be dropping that feedback effort into . Not saying it will happen instantly but if they provide that feedback it could happen in a few seasons

Everyone that keeps screaming for Playable elites and Assassinations need to know where to direct that energy, and to not expect an overnight return of it.

I'm going. To create a post on the discord and hope 343 perhaps takes notice and take it into consideration.

If not oh well we still got a very customizable firefight PVE content on it's way.

[cosmic saffron]

Are these drops ever comign back? I've been on a work trip and didn't have access to Twitch during the past six weeks or so 😦

https://www.haloinfinitenews.com/twitch-drops/b189a16a-37b9-4174-b9a2-fbc97411e822

[signal ivy]

#halo-discussion message

[cosmic saffron]

huh. So there's no clarity if these will some day come up in the future? I'm not liking the 20% odds. I was going to take work off during the future times

[signal ivy]

I mean sometimes some streamers make these drops available again but there's no set schedule

[cosmic saffron]

Okay appreciate it. Crossing my fingers🤞

[smoky wave]

Forge time

[ruby knoll]

bAtTlE rOyAlE cOnFiRmEd!1!!

@smoky wave @river minnow halonite

[signal ivy]

Fortalo

[river minnow]

we havent had a sucessful game night since the first one

the rest have been a flop lol

[signal ivy]

flopped harder than the Golem game

[ruby knoll]

you can order ai around like the halo 5 campaign

tfw not in infinite campaign

[drowsy comet]

this ai kit twitch stream is so freaking cool

halo is fun again

[ruby knoll]

always has been

[slim flint]

I wish

[misty vale]

so did this guy ever post anything or is this just clickbait

[crystal iron]

For PVE players hell yes.

[wide trout]

what?

[misty vale]

says there's a tutorial on a fix, via a video today 10/13, which helps performance...right there in the post?

[wide trout]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

pretty sure he has a youtube

yeah he does

https://m.youtube.com/@XLR8_LIVE/videos

[analog salmon]

lmao be patient Scorpio

[misty vale]

I got dudes who will play halo, and halo infinite is a very fun game to play casually, but it runs like dog for them

[analog salmon]

he's probably taking his time with it to make sure its as clear as it can be

[somber comet]

hi

[young shore]

Ai battle YouTube channels are gonna go crazy with the new forge

100 brute captains vs harbringer

I just realized in total you can have up to 60 characters fighting (with campaign ai and ai Spartans)

People are gonna make battlefield level maps

Even just with the ai Spartans

[crystal iron]

Just saw footage of the AI and you can see them be on your team too dude had a brute with him

[ruby knoll]

lots of flexibility with the scripting

[crystal iron]

I'm hoping for Battlefield style stuff, I'm pretty hyped for this

Sooo who is going to recreate Swords Base from Reach level

[young shore]

Imagine driving 14 warthogs with marines against the enemy team

[crystal iron]

That level from reach where you drop the cloak sheild

[young shore]

Someone has to create tip of the spear as an actual map

[ruby knoll]

does pathing work now for vehicles?

[crystal iron]

You know what I'ma pause Starfeild and go play some Halo for a bit today

[young shore]

I can’t wait until Tuesday though

Why couldn’t they release it on a Sunday or Saturday 😩

[ruby knoll]

gonna be playing s5 early at worlds

[young shore]

Dang

What are some other cool ideas

28 player fire fight

[ruby knoll]

dominion warzone

[young shore]

YO IMAGINE AN UNGOYY REVOLUTION

Like a recreation

Maybe two teams (or just pve)

[crystal iron]

Have you ever seen The Rooster teeth Show about the Agents .. remember the sarcophagus mission ... Imagine that a tower you have to get to the top secure a package and extract

[young shore]

I am watching RvB for the first time

Church is my favorite character, hope nothing happens to him

[crystal siren]

😔

[crystal iron]

Honestly I would want to see a kde like Groundwars or Invasion from MW2 be made in Halo Infinite

[young shore]

It would sadly just be like invasion

Imagine if there was aerial navigation meshes

It would be cool if cod had a forge like mode

[crystal iron]

Alright booting up the Halo Infinite... Now to decide what to play for a bit. Definityl not playing ranked

Maybe some fiesta

[young shore]

Husky raid is easy exp

[crystal iron]

Oh yea I said I'd check that out next time I get on

[young shore]

28 players vs 28 adujacant resolutions and 4 hunters

[misty silo]

Just the Custiomization Article left!

[crystal iron]

The what?

[misty silo]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/forge-overview-season-5 Scroll to the bottom, with the Ranked article out. Just 1 more left

Its the one im most excited for

[crystal iron]

Ok 343 needs to add one feature to forge AI or it's going to be a huge let down....

They need to add a Craig's world Tour AO..

If we can have Craig Rocking it out in the background as we slay banished than what fun would it be lol reminds me of the Halo Reach Nightclub Thing with the Brute DJ and dancing grunts

Not going to lie Having Craig the Brute using those sweet tunes to play the Halo 2 Rock theme would be epic

I wonder if we will ever get the Halo TV show helmets, I mean we are getting EOD, which was in the TV show but the other two helmets looked pretty cool

Granted A Master Cheeks core would be something lol

[near ermine]

Is the nerf blaster skin exclusive to the code in the blaster box or can it be bought/in a loot box?

[crystal iron]

Exclusive to Nerf codes I got the AR and shotgun

[near ermine]

Good

Thank you for the info

[sage kettle]

Theater question: anyone know how to view more than the 12 games in the "my match history"

[tepid latch]

probably cant if you haven't saved the matches gameplay 🤔 idk exactly but that seems like a limit

[charred wyvern]

There is a way to see more than that 12 but, something about viewing your own profile from the fireteam. Forget how to do it exactly and Im at the hwc so im not in a position to check

[sage kettle]

thanks yea i saw someone post a trick around the bug but couldnt remember it

thanks ill try that

That worked! thanks!

[charred wyvern]

np

It does have a limit but unless ur Mint Blitz it'll probably show all your matches

[crystal iron]

it has taken me 30 mins to get halfway on the halo loading screen

my intel i3 cant do s

[tired steppe]

bru got a windows 8 cpu 😭

[crystal iron]

NAHHHHH

[crystal iron]

I have been noticing thaty game goes black screen when I turn it on, I have to back out close the game and re do

Should halo go back to being rated M

[ruby lake]

blud running on a chromebook💀💀💀

[final raptor]

GAME FUEL RETURN LETS GOOOOOO

[soft spear]

Also stoked for the Forge updates - not just the AI but it sounds like we'll be able to weld things to vehicles now (so I can finally try to build my battle tower game mode)

[signal ivy]

I remember the Halo 3 armored warthog people would make with forge

[grim citrus]

Bro running a UNIVAC 1

[tranquil epoch]

Just finished every Bungie Halo game

it's been an awesome journey

I loved it

I don't think I'll play the other ones though, unless Mr. 343 himself personally tells me to do so

[glass salmon]

[tranquil epoch]

Also all on Steam Deck despite having an Xbox and gaming pc cuz I love my Steam Deck

[odd rover]

If i won the giveaway how do i get it?

[signal ivy]

it will be granted to you at some point

it's all done manually

[odd rover]

Thanks

[cosmic saffron]

I won a giveaway! What happens next

[signal ivy]

it was answered directly above your question

[smoky halo]

Would be interesting to see a UNSC counterpart of the Banished drop pod. Also some ODST's... A little reskinning should do the trick

[gloomy tulip]

Anyone playing PC with a controller and noticed a change in their settings without their settings actually being changed?

[crystal iron]

Just saw a Video by Footedghost, I guess there was an announcement for a Halo 3;throwback playlist coming to season 5?

[white birch]

Alongside Game Fuel again yes.

I think that goes live November 6th

[wary plover]

do they add/remove maps in the rotation in Ranked when a new season begins ?

[native tinsel]

With the new cross core customisation coming, will they add other cross core features along the season?

[twin crag]

they are adding forbidden later in the season

[wary plover]

i mean rotation between the old maps

[native tinsel]

What is Extraction, I’ve played Halo 4 when I was little, but I never got to play Multiplayer

[wary plover]

Like king of the hill, they are overhyping it for no reason lol .

[twin crag]

imagine KoTH but instead of 1 guy standing in the hill all the time, there's a device that u have to capture

[twin crag]

not sure

[native tinsel]

I’m hyped for AI being added to custom game/forge for the first time ever, and firefight especially

[red tulip]

what was the twitch drop from yesterday's stream? i completely forgot about it, i just wanna know if it was THAT good

[plush flame]

I saw in a video someone said that the Cedar Mud coating is still available to purchase. You just have to look in customization but I couldn't find it

[grim swan]

Yo how do u thrust with energy sword pc

[rich trellis]

I guess im dumb but I can't find todays schedule. Do we know who and when plays today?

[coarse dagger]

Will probably get posted here in a bit
https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1159625518296088678

Or on HCS Twitter

[grim swan]

Nevermind

[rich trellis]

Thank you

[noble urchin]

wow seeing positivity in halo comment sections for once feels nice. it's just a post about soda but i'll take what i can get at this point lol

[obsidian galleon]

just came back for ss5, couldn't find a single match

what is going on

its been 5min

[coarse dagger]

ss5?

[obsidian galleon]

season 5

[coarse dagger]

It's still pretty early in most places, this is always a quiet time. Will probably pick up in a few hours and population will get a boost when season 5 launches

[smoky wave]

I'm getting matches now, I've been playing over an hour and all

[pseudo hound]

Hey homies, do you know if the xp boosts affect challenge exp? 🙂

[crystal iron]

They do

[pseudo hound]

Awesome, thanks homie ❤️

[crystal iron]

No problem

[tiny hemlock]

Bro how tf do i report a hacker?? And also why am I put in lobbies where i cant get a single kill (i have about total 20 hours playtime)

[sullen kiln]

https://aka.ms/HaloSafety

[coarse dagger]

^ details there on how to report in-game or on the Support site

[tiny hemlock]

I left the game now its not showing the player ID

[crystal iron]

Is it me or is the banshee useless again

[tepid latch]

SBMM is hella loose in most social modes afaik so if you're not getting many kills thats likely why

[crystal iron]

A little too loose if you ask me

I’m all for new players but I also wish I could run into more people with a brain

[somber comet]

Do I have to dm someone to claim the giveaway or is it rewarded automatically?

[crystal iron]

Automatic I think

[coarse dagger]

It will be granted automatically in a few days time

[somber comet]

Alr thanks.

[covert horizon]

Any Canadians here? or Canadian clans?

[tepid latch]

absolutely, I'm of the opinion that SBMM should be tighter for most modes bar party modes like fiesta, Husky and infection

[lost hare]

The player count might still be too small to tighten up the SBMM much more, it’s already tough to find matches as it is for some people

[misty vale]

game needs more players and they can tighten SBMM

[crystal iron]

True

[misty vale]

It's f2p so the most important thing is queue times

[versed crescent]

What generation are the Spartans in infinite?

[slim flint]

I’m pretty sure they’re spartan 4s

[noble urchin]

burger charm available today. my time has come

[formal canopy]

It's Spartan IV since Halo 4. The only change is the armor which is the Mjolnir Gen.3

[slim flint]

I like to pretend that some of them are spartan 3s

[obtuse umbra]

Character ai is very interestinf

[grim citrus]

🖐️

[crystal iron]

I'm pretty glad I set my.expextations for Halo I finite low, because before S5 stuff was shown Inwas t expecting much especially with PVE, but with what they showed I'm overly hyped now,

The Forge AI tools com ined with what I seen forgers make in a short amount of time, has me excited for the fact that we will have such a huge range of PVE content coming to this game.

Like I genially think we are going to get Battlefield esk modes, along with Campaign level remakes, and some other stuff.

So much potential

[hasty jewel]

Will the Bandit EVO be any different aside from the optic sight?

Like reduced recoil or damage.

[civic sundial]

It has reduced recoil and you carry more reserve ammo

[hasty jewel]

That’s pretty neat

Does it have any drawbacks that we know of?

[full warren]

Put into a game 25% into the game gets 29 kills and still lose the slayer.

sometimes I dont know what the game want from me

wow we lost by 1 kill

[hasty jewel]

Ngl I don’t even play to win

Halo is like the only game that idc if I get steamrolled in

[full warren]

I don't understand people who don't play to win, isn't that the whoel point of objectives is to win lol

if you don't go for objectives then I guess why so many people complains

[civic sundial]

Some people are more focused on having fun than winning

[onyx latch]

That's right, that's why I focus on winning, because winning is fun

[grim citrus]

Maybe custom server browser would be more fitting for people that are focused on fun.

[slim flint]

as of right now I’m playing husky raid for the xp, though I try to play the objective when I can

[covert horizon]

Why was SWAT taken off from Ranked?

[iron wasp]

What's the proper discussion channel for Forge??

[ruby lake]

i always play the objective

[grim citrus]

There’s playing the objective and playing it correctly

[ruby lake]

thate

thats
literally what i do

play the way how those game modes are intended for

if its capture the flag
ill do it

if its king of the hill, ill do it

if its point capture, ill do that too

[grim citrus]

Like if we are playing stronghold, and you constantly go after C on live fire when we have an excellent set up on A and B; that is not playing the objective correctly.

[ruby lake]

???

how would you know if i constantly go after a single point if i literally run around the map to make sure all the points are captured and prevent the enemy team from taking 1 or 2?

or me defending a point from incoming enemies unless something happens?

then i'd go guns blazing and help others in my team if they're failing to capture B or whatever

[grim citrus]

Simple. If the opposition is constantly spawning at A, it’s because the team is at C

[celest heron]

it wanted you to get 30

[grim citrus]

It’s almost the inevitable that they spawn at A, capture it and attack B

[ruby lake]

ok

[grim citrus]

The only time you push C, is to earn more time when needed.

Or if you want a huge gap of time at the beginning

Or the end

[ruby lake]

?

oh i get it

i dont think often

[grim citrus]

If you’d like, we can team up one day so I can explain it more thorough

[ruby lake]

no thanks

[grim citrus]

Aight

[crystal iron]

Pretty soon we will have PVE stuff, the problem is Fun is subjective some people just want.tonge to lie play a few rounds win or lose and they still enjoy the game, other people get online and only have fun when winning.

Issue here is there is a large mix of both in social playlist which is expected... That's why the made ranked for those Only have fun when winning so you want like minded players

[grim citrus]

How they dealt with ranked in infinite is the worst I have ever seen.

In any game.

[ruby lake]

all battlepasses are 100%

i can finally rest in piece

wait a minute

[crystal iron]

I guess, idk For those players who are always getting upset over their team not being cohesive in say BTB or Social slayer, it kinda comes with the territory of what to expect when entering a social playlist. It's a party mix of what each individual player finds fun.

I think there needs to be in in game function that allows players to squad up after matches so when you do find that team you vibe with you don't have to go through other processes to stay together r

[grim citrus]

Or simply have a social and ranked with the same modes on both sides. Like I don’t understand why that is so difficult to implement.

[crystal iron]

Probably due to population size, so the more popular population heavy side gets more attention,

Ranked as it stands is not appealing to vast majority of players. Unless you make friends with streamers your pretty much going to get a.very limited mode expereince in ranked due to population and wait times for rounds trying to become faster

[uneven bison]

I thought ranked arena was the most popular mode?

[grim citrus]

Ranked team slayer has always been the most popular playlist in any halo game, but yet it’s not a permanent game mode

[ruby lake]

competitive?
its not my cup of tea unless theres a cool prize in the end

[grim citrus]

It has never been the vast majority of players, but it was still popular

Hell, ranked slayer is still active in 5 over most playlists

[uneven bison]

The prize is a feeling of feeble accomplishment when you win and a rage inducing tornado of confusion when you lose

Why do I play ranked modes again

[crystal iron]

Idk I don't even touch ranked to be fair, but I remember that Halo 2 had possibly the best method of ranked, you win you go up you lose you go down.. if only winning matters you get players more focused on that with that model

[grim citrus]

But yet all they offer is a barebones water down version of halo in arena in infinite

[grim citrus]

Halo 2 had a rank lock

Halo 5 had the best ranked

[ruby lake]

lame

[grim citrus]

Outside of 4, I think 2 had the worst

[devout kite]

This game shouldn’t be supported on the og xbox one

[crystal iron]

I'm just glad the removed those Ranked Challenges from the rotation. That was essentially pushing casual players whom wanted the Cosmetic into ranked and they really didn't care for ranked but were willing to just go through the motions of playing 5;rounds to get a weapon charm

[near ermine]

Why is it that every time I play Xbox infinite I do amazing but get absolutely destroyed on PC?

[crystal iron]

Granted I don't play ranked but I think you should only move up ranks when you win, and move down when you lose

If you dropped a ton of kills that's cool but you still lost why would a high competition mode reward a loss.

It should be more cutthroat and ruthless

Maybe they should implement more goofy modes in the HCS stuff. Maybe have people attending these events play some modes like a Duck hunt game mode or something crazy like that. They could win some prizes like a Hoodie.

[vast halo]

Ranked is done really well in Infinite, the matchups are impeccable. Once I find my general level my win/loss averages about .500 unless I’m trying to improve

And yes it does only go up/down based off wins and losses, despite your own personal performance

[crystal iron]

Aight if you play it and think it's fine guess its fine, other seem to disagree, but I don't play ranked so I don't really have any strong opinion towards it.

What I am wondering is on forge AI can we script the brutes to always throw grunts... Would make for a.funn game mode where you have to dodge grunts being thrown at you to run an obstacle course

[crystal iron]

Oh ok, dang I always saw people in here complaining that their teammates would be trying to just get kills instead of get the odd ball but end up dying so much and they would lose... Figured if your win loss determines rank why would you try to be getting kills rather than points towards the win in objective modes

[vast halo]

I think the system makes a lot of sense because it’s a team “sport”, and when the Patriots lose they all lose. I love the reliance on the team aspect

[vast halo]

I experience that a lot in casual but I love objectives so that’s why I preferred ranked, everyone takes it more seriously. Sometimes people only get kills and don’t touch the objective in modes like oddball, but in ranked theyll at least hang around the ball carrier so they win the match. Which I don’t really mind because it helps the team

[crystal iron]

Oh that's good, i know early on when they made the weekly challenges based around ranked it was so bad, like wanted to win but some people where just there to get the play 4 games of ranked credit. Felt messed up how they did that

[white birch]

If you figure it out tell Mr. Asking myself the same question

[vast halo]

Yeah I’m so glad they stopped that 😂😂

[vast halo]

For those 1 out of 100 glory games

[rich trellis]

Is there a schedule anywhere? Still shows only friday for me here

[crystal iron]

https://twitter.com/HCS/status/1713235704959115348?t=LfM6_bb-Zcvk5dj92KAypA&s=19

Found this on Twitter

[rich trellis]

Thank you

[coarse dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1159625518296088678

[rich trellis]

Yeah that only shows yesterday can't see who will play today

[vast halo]

Has anyone figured out what the ranks after the game is over do?

Or how to check your level

[radiant sundial]

what do you mean?

[vast halo]

It keeps telling me I’m leveling up to corporal and staff sergeant since the season started

[radiant sundial]

you can check your level on your profile page

[crystal iron]

343 needs to add a medal for T Bagging but not like a quick one for a full kill came vertical thruster

[charred wyvern]

Career rank boss

[radiant sundial]

do you know how to get to your profile on infinite? @vast halo

[grim citrus]

I can see 343 removing the t bag in the future

[vast halo]

What does it do

[crystal iron]

Noooo It's such an Iconic feature

[signal ivy]

so you think they'll remove crouching? lol

[crystal iron]

I love the rounds where you and another player are constantly trying to teabag each other cus no one wants to end the round being the one who got t bagged last

[charred wyvern]

Not much besides a way to flex your time played and some emblems for each rank milestone, but in season 5 those who have reached the max rank will unlock a Master Cheif armor kit

[vast halo]

Crouching is sexist and unnecessary

Sign my petition to remove it

[crystal iron]

Counter petition to make it faster more vigorous

[white birch]

Aggressive crouching
Aka "drop shooting" like in comp

[charred wyvern]

Will sign this petition

[white birch]

Where you fire while crouching to throw off your opponents aim

[vast halo]

Bring back assassination animations and add custom teabag animations

[crystal iron]

The total establishment of dominance

The tea bag medal will be Tucker saying Bam Chicks Wham Wham

[white birch]

Hah

[grim citrus]

Nothing is safe

[crystal iron]

Ok honestly if they managed to ever get the Red Vs blue characters as AI I would buy it.

caboose and Sarge would be my top picks

[grim citrus]

With the halo 3 throwback playlist dropping, I would love to see the people that think halo is at its best when it’s the “classic setting” are true to their word

[crystal iron]

Honestly I think that Classic setting this was a great idea for those exact people. They get a modern Halo game with the classic feel all the way to no sprint no clamber... They can be a super soldier who has trouble with 5 foot walls

[grim citrus]

I’m waiting for the complaints stating that it’s “not the same and that’s why I’m not playing it”

[crystal iron]

True but that would only be valid of the maps are a 1:1 remake and they don't have espeint or clamber and pretty much everything that the old one has... Also seems like a great time to bring back the classic shotgun

[grim citrus]

I’m sure they will. A part of me feels that they were probably working along side CHL

I want it to be nearly identical.

So there’s no room for arguments and to put this “classic halo” is necessary to bed for good.

[crystal iron]

It does seem like the perfect timing, We have flood coming , combined with infection, it only seems right to bring back The old shotgun for that mode

[grim citrus]

I personally don’t see the shotgun returning any time soon.

[crystal iron]

I truly do miss it, it would have been a fun toy to have, the bulldog is ok but it's just not the same feel

Honestly I enjoy the clambering aspect of Halo, it provides more avenues of aproach. You can't just hold up on one spot and watch the same two entry ways, now you have far more variables or areas your enemy can approach from

[grim citrus]

Shotgun was a beast

Favourite shotgun?

The CE is probably mine

[crystal iron]

Halo 3 and Halo reach those were the two I played the most

[grim citrus]

Or the reach

[crystal iron]

It's where I really fell ino e with Halo

[grim citrus]

CE for me. 12 year old doing system link was a whole vibe

[crystal iron]

Halo3 and Reach was peak for me due to most of my friends I met and played alongside. Kinda makes me sad when I think back on how many times I spent playing along side somma my friends to where maybe 1 person plays Halo now. Hopefully with PVE that can have and most people come back for a bit but we're mostly all just grown up and have other responsibilities. But PvE is that epic time to do that

[grim citrus]

That’s honestly my friends. Halo infinite really broke my halo squad up.

[crystal iron]

I'll be honest my first impressions of Halo Infinie were that they were just trying to push Competitive way to hard. Everything was HCS centric, and felt so barebones.

Like I never understood why that guy said Halo has always been competitive, for me the competition came from just trying to outdoor your friend like we create the competition within the game but overall it was just about shooting each other with some really cool alien guns and broken guns and just letting the madness happen

I'm glad they are bringing us more So less competitive more Just random pointless fun type stuff

And with earning XP for BP in customs it's.nkce they aren't excluding that side from progressing

[grim citrus]

Basically do halo CE with a hint of 3 reimagined

[crystal iron]

The firefighter mode is going to have matchmaking right?

That is a huge thing. Of they make a fordofjt mode but make it that you have to go and look for teamates outside of the game itself it could really put a damper on it.

[grim citrus]

I think it should be

[crystal iron]

I feel like that really doomed Spartan ops. Like I'm sure there were plenty of players who wanted to play co op but none of them wanted to bother getting on a discord and coordinate like a play date lol

[grim citrus]

But I don’t recall firefight being a popular playlist in reach

[grim citrus]

Spartan Ops was the perfect game mode to experiment new characters, plot lines and mechanics

[crystal iron]

It was, but around that time I think it was when the Halo Playerbase started to kinda takes dive as COD was sort of taking over

[grim citrus]

And they threw it away for god knows why

I played reach religiously (got inheritor)

[crystal iron]

Supposably no one likes it, but like I said I think a Matchmaking mechanic could have fixed that

[grim citrus]

Felt a lot of people played it to rank up faster

[grim citrus]

Which is madness. How can you hate a halo game mode that provides new ways to expand on the universe

[crystal iron]

Most likey but at that time COD had the prestige ranking system of old days so in terms of grind it was superior which given they had a Pro series at the time it was pulling a lot of Attention... I think when reach came out MW3 original was out as well.

Honestly my favorite was advanced warfare... I had high sensitivity and would jump up and shoot down on enemy players or was the funniest thing.

They were still used to the Old style of movement and had trouble adapting to this one so it made for easy kills

[grim citrus]

I thought AW was the best one overall

Gave you the most creative freedom to play how you wanted to

[crystal iron]

In terms of movement and customization even story, it was epic.

I still Renee trying to get used to the new movements Early on Inwas flying off the maps going into containers or my own grenades... But once I got the hang it and was getting creative, it was some true fun

[grim citrus]

I think that’s why I enjoyed it; the idea that I had to invest in new mechanics.

Instead of relying on skills I learned from the last game

That whole era was great

We were getting more gameplay content drops over cosmetics

[crystal iron]

Yea and the amount of possible routes and tactics you could apply were almost endless, you could approach the same.map in almost an infinite amount of varieties. And so could your enemies which made it really interesting trying to anticipate your enemy while trying to try some new thing

[crystal iron]

The cosmetics were pretty good too, most of them were there day one but you had to grind and hope RNG have you the right set. But yea content drops were insane.

[crystal iron]

I swear I saw a pro.o for mw3 that had some guy wearing what looked like the ad ab e warfare exo armor

[grim citrus]

Hmm

[crystal iron]

Damn bro bringing back the memories, Halo reach was my army days while advanced warfare was when I was married but living with the inlaws using some hanky AT&T internet. Aww the more humbling days.

[ruby knoll]

Halo has always been competitive though? PvP is inherently competitive. Competitive doesn't mean esports, it means competitive lol. You're literally competing against another team in any pvp mode. What was meant was making a fair, well balanced game for the pvp side of things

[ruby knoll]

i blame microsoft

[grim citrus]

I wouldn’t.

[ruby knoll]

Microsoft is the reason H2A got overloaded into being the MCC despite only giving the project 1 year to be developed

[grim citrus]

That has nothing to do with spartan ops

[ruby knoll]

I'm just saying, probably was a top down decision to cut spops after just 1 season

[grim citrus]

During the time of halo 4, was the reception mostly positive?

[crystal iron]

I get what your saying I don't think I'm saying it correctly but Halo In terms of content, was pulling strictly towards just PVP competitive.

To where other experiences that the other aspects of the Halo Community enjoyed were either being ignored or pushed to lower priorities.

To which I agree with you these were most likely top down decision. And I'm not saying Phone Spencer cus Microsoft has a CFO a COO plus a whole team of executives below them, people who were only looking at profit margins as that is their job.

But I turn the slight out the most cost effective methods that they predicted would generate more revenue,

Which meant they probably cut corners in ways that hurt the development team

But with Forge AI tools we may see a huge influx of players which is great for the game. I am not going to outright ignore PVP but with PVE i can jump back and forth to avoid that PVP burnout

[misty silo]

Hoping Mk V isn't too expensive

A little sad we may not be able to "earn" it though

[clear cedar]

why does it feel like the shock rifle never spawns in Recharge

its always the ravager for me

[junior ruin]

my dream has litteraly come true. forge AI

[grim citrus]

To earn something in this day and age is non existent. Most people want their things now and they don’t want to wait. Instant gratification

[plush flame]

Does anyone use Halo dot api?

[glacial tartan]

Yes 🙂 Do you have questions about it?

[livid fable]

dude they almost didn't even include multiplayer in the original Halo because they could not make it fun.

it existed and was technically competitive but was not fun so they were going to scrap the idea.

they played around with the formula until it was a fun thing to do by itself for its own sake and then they decided it could stay in

it's perfectly fine to say that Halo has evolved, lol. the original draw to Halo was for its dynamic campaign enemy AI.

back in the day when you had games like doom, you didn't really have such a thing as behavior scripting. everything just kind of came at you or didn't

with the enemies in Halo combat evolved, you can make the small guy's panic by killing the big guys, but they wouldn't panic on the harder difficulties unless you did so. they reacted to the situation they found themselves in. that was the combat evolved part of the game.

multiplayer grew into its own thing over time. it was a way you could keep enjoying the game you spent hours playing to get the flaming samurai armor. the purpose of multiplayer was to give longevity to the game.

"an fps party game." just because that was how it was originally designed doesn't mean that's how it had to stay, but the idea that it was always competitive needs to die because it is flat out false

and even then there's a question of exactly how competitive. I don't remember seeing constant HCS content on the screen every time I logged into play. when there was a tournament update they would usually be a little notification pop up. now, HCS is practically embedded into the login screen.

I don't think it's a bad thing, but it is certainly different

[elder yew]

Guys is the yoroi armor coating from twitch drop broken?

Nexus worked as intended but Smellbringer Yoroi did not appeared in the armor.

[placid ivy]

So I've just gotten to tier 100 in the season 1 battle-pass, and i got a buckler. Now im pretty sure its supposed to be a backwards engineered jackal shield but it looks kinda boring on the wrist. It would be so cool if it like opened when holding an energy sword. Right now it feels like a really lame reward for the last tier.

[misty vale]

Yeah that's cosmetics for ya. Hope you enjoyed the gameplay.

[modest nimbus]

will the bandit evo be a variant or its own gun?

[celest heron]

mine worked

[frail cargo]

hey, does anyone know where i can find the weapon armory locker thing in the forge menu? idk the exact name but its like a cabinet full of assault rifles and a few other guns

i think its called a UNSC weapon crate or something

i've been looking for it in the menus for ages now

[ruby steppe]

Flood did nothing wrong.

[elfin cargo]

l

[crystal iron]

Not sure why but I'm really good with the commando just wish it had like 30 rounds

[misty vale]

30 rd commando >

[elfin cargo]

Commando?

[low musk]

It’s a variant.

[crystal iron]

Hey how do you mute your teammates on game again

[analog salmon]

Start/esc player list I think

[crystal iron]

Holy crap I just thought about this... headhunter missions can be made with PVE forge AI...multiple HVT targets several Spartan headhunters deployed

[crystal siren]

Goated

[vivid light]

Mine is doing the same thing. Not that I'm planning to use it anyway

[real violet]

i think Assault on the Control Room is my least favorite Bungie level

and by extension Two Betrayals

[vivid light]

Dang. Those are a couple of my favorite

[tight palm]

Not sure what my least favorite would be but I'm certain it'll be from Halo 2. A lot of instances in that game of "Oh you liked this fight? I hope you like doing it for ten more minutes."

[oak grove]

IS there mod that can unlock Record store owner?

Annoyed, don't want to collect them all again in order in coop

[twin crag]

I wonder if we can have a Squad Battle playlist with a Bandito or BR stars

[noble urchin]

is there a way to remove your service tag? or is just once you type one, you always have to have one?

[crystal iron]

Try space?

[crystal iron]

Two more days

[crystal iron]

PVE PVP space ship to ship combat having to board enemy ships and scuttle them

[crystal iron]

So what drops are available today and how do we earn, as in who dobwe watch

[tame crane]

Anyone know if the door prize this year for HCS has an exclusive item? Last year at worlds it had the HCS Logo Weapon Charm as the exclusive

[coarse dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1159627338439475371

You can also check the Drops page on Twitch

[crystal iron]

Honoestly the only weapon charm I use is the one exclusive to the special edition controller

[warped briar]

Is the bandit really replacing the br in ranked?

[civic sundial]

The Bandit Evo is, yes

[round forge]

That is interesting since I did once think of the argument that what the Flood did wasn't necessarily evil the same way animals killing each other isn't evil. I mean all the flood are doing is trying to sustain themselves and multiply the same way any animal does.

We could start an entire thread on the topic.

[civic sundial]

I mean, the whole "We want to wipe out all life and bring it all into the Flood" thing is pretty evil

And I kinda like not being a space zombie

[misty vale]

The borg did nothing wrong

[uneven bison]

Didn’t gravemind tell the didact of the floods actual purpose and drive him to insanity?

[sullen spear]

just got killed out of nowhere on infinite then on killcam saw them just vanish what happened there?

[analog salmon]

what happens once the flood consume everything and have nothing left to consume

[crystal iron]

My brain read that as the Bandito

[crystal iron]

Killed by the ghost of onyx

[sullen spear]

you serious?

[analog salmon]

go into theatre and look?

[crystal iron]

It's a joke but jell I know Halo 2 had some like ghost player on a map

[sullen spear]

do u know what actually happened?

[analog salmon]

game has camo and tp

[sullen spear]

oh

[analog salmon]

and players can desync

and disconnect

[sullen spear]

definitly looked like an animation not a disconnect

[crystal iron]

With players possibly coming back ser ers could see some issues

[analog salmon]

it'll be camo if they just faded out or tp (using qt) if there's a trail

[sullen spear]

is the camo thing like a cloaking device or smthng?

[analog salmon]

yeah

power equipment, one on each map, either overshield, camo, or qt

in arena, can be anywhere in btb

literally drop out the sky in BTB

[sullen spear]

btb? im very unfamilliar with halo multiplayer

[analog salmon]

12v12

whereas arena is 4v4

[sullen spear]

ah ok

[civic sundial]

The Ghost of Lockout

I remember the videos

[crystal iron]

Is there a lore reason as to why the master gunnery sgt lied to master chief? Is he working for the insurectionists or something

[civic sundial]

Which Master Gunnery Sgt are we talking about here?

[crystal iron]

The "these new shields are extremely resilient" halo 2 one

[analog salmon]

it isnt a lie on the normal difficulty

[coarse dagger]

For assistance with Twitch Drops

Please see this post from Div: #hcs-chat message
Also please read through the full troubleshooting guide on the Halo Support site - follow the steps, even if you think you have already tried it
https://aka.ms/DropsHelp

[crystal iron]

Cool.

[civic sundial]

The gameplay does not always equate to being the same as in lore

Like, if it did, the marines would die allot faster to plasma weapons

[crystal iron]

It was a meme but i getchapoint

[civic sundial]

Or the Savanah in Reach would've been destroyed super fast

[analog salmon]

i always think of a video game as a dramatisation of the lore events

[crystal iron]

The xbox 720 is coming out in 2025

[smoky wave]

No way!

[limpid pollen]

i dont think firefight is at launch of season 5

in the trailer it said "coming to season 5" but maybe im just misinterpreting that. and then they said that the new eqiupment (regen field) is coming mid season so im thinking that would line up with firefight ?

[misty silo]

Yeah they confirmed it's coming later

[crystal iron]

I wonder if the forgers had early access to Forge AI, that way at launch there is already some firefight modes. But within a week we should have some before the most likely mid season Drop in of Firefight KOTH

I'm not going to call it the Bandit Evo

It shall be called the Bandito lol for some reason my brain reads it that way lol

[coarse dagger]

[ruby lake]

why did the halo man jump in infinite?

does he think he bird?

[devout kite]

Why’s btb heavies still in the game it’s broken mode that should be rebalanced

[ruby lake]

ur unbalance

d

[smoky wave]

Shadow weekly complain

[coarse dagger]

Flash giveaway in #general-chat!!

[smoky wave]

Also it says clearly coming soon, meaning that it is coming in like mid season

[crystal iron]

Lol the dude that went on stage hit me with the hard C ' DLC comment

[misty silo]

This gameplay looks HYPE

They showed off a bit of Firefight

[winged ridge]

Season 5 genuinely has me excited for Infinite again. More than Season 4 did, honestly

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/spvmYueRvhY?feature=shared

[crystal iron]

Ok I got the two coatings for today is there any other drops I got the watch for 3 hours one

[coarse dagger]

https://discord.com/channels/471722331820130324/1159627338439475371

Should all be listed there

[hazy zealot]

will they every have a 1 flag playlist?

[crystal iron]

I wonder if we can get a red bull racing skin.. I was.tvto unleashy inner Max Verstappen

I wonder if we can get a red bull racing skin.. I was.tvto unleashy inner Max Verstappen

Hey what's with this mountain dew promo stuff I'm seeing.. and how does one get it

[onyx latch]

Getting all hopped up on Mountain Dew

[crystal iron]

Coming at them like a spider monkey

MT dew in game event will see players have triple speed faster shots and higher jump....

Not going to lie I may be the reason we fail a mission on Firefigjt simply because I will desire to teabag as many AI as possible lol... It's like a reflex lol.. my apologies in advance... Also will there be team killing in firefight... I'm just saying Incase someone grabs the weapon I want, I want to employ my amazing negotiating skills to have them hand it over....

[steel surge]

Is MCCs population just low rn? Seems like all i find are Halo 3 matches in BTB and hardly any reach games except for later on during the day

[misty silo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb2QFfbggZA

Firefight looking good

[crystal iron]

https://twitter.com/UneeQtV/status/1713609361010868714?t=UYUqAdGYxrp46HIZYvq_kA&s=19

Someone already making an co op PVE mode. Called the Escape from Autumn

[misty silo]

Brooo that is awesome!!! I love CE so much

[white birch]

Played it today. Feels just like the campaign. Plus having the hill to hold means you can help if you don't feel confident holding the line

It's like the "hold the zone" rounds in WZFF

[crystal iron]

How did you play it are you at the hcs thing

[white birch]

Yes

[crystal iron]

Ok, so it feels like campaign which sounds good

In PvE I like to alot of sniping so hopefully I can be going alotofthat

[civic sundial]

I know of a Salarian who would be proud

[crystal iron]

Honestly it looks like I'm pretty set on content for a while between season 5 , Starfeild and MW3 I'ma have plenty to rotate through

[misty silo]

Sounds exciting! Glad to hear it's a fun time. I was worried with the KOTH approach

[crystal iron]

Hokestly King of the Hill can easily be turned into some cool mode using PVE stuff.

I guess someone made like. Tower defense...

What would be cool is like a Tower tower climb like the Sarcophagus mission in that ReD VS Blue Freelancer episode

[civic sundial]

I know exactly the episode you're talking about

But I raise the counterpoint of giving us a map inspired by the holdout we see in season 11 at the end

[crystal iron]

BOTH!!!!

We also need Sarge and Caboose as AI

[civic sundial]

I feel like Church is more likely to happen first

[crystal iron]

That would be an amazing AI to have for those players who can't aim

[low musk]

I think I remember part of the Warzone Firefight where players had to keep enemy AI from taking over zones.

[mystic gale]

Does anyone know when the finals start?

[placid ivy]

Why is the halo TV show so brutal? The show itself is an abomination but i think the brutality looks really cool. While we are stuck with a T for Teen with infinite. 😦

The teen rating also sucks for the flood. Imagine if the game was a 18+ and the flood customization that we got was filled with open ribcages, frozen screaming sculls, bone showing. Ikd maybe its the sadist side of me or something but i think the old flood looks really unique and cool. Not the biggest fan of the glowing poxes instead of brutality that 343 has.

[smoky wave]

Going to put it here https://vxtwitter.com/Unyshek/status/1711427190104129641

[marble halo]

we need mandatory bot bootcamp again

Just had a CTF match where we got to the enemy flag in the hog. My passenger didnt get out to grab it. I honked and honked and we were in their base for like 10 seconds and they never got out.

Then another guy wa sdriving me and it seemd like he didn't know the controls again. Its infuriating absolute anchors like that are allowed in MM

[placid ivy]

But i would argue the new cosmetics speak otherwise. maybe i haven't seen enough but so far they look quite tame compared to something like h2a m.

[signal ivy]

but they also look tame compared to HW2 flood and that was rated T

your move

[placid ivy]

I'm calling that it has something to do with humans. iirc all flood we saw in halo wars 2 were aliens or biomass. Don't think we ever got to see human flood forms.

[signal ivy]

next

[placid ivy]

nvm.

tbf, that wasn't the point i was originally making so technically i'm still in the fight.

Yeah, nvm i'm coping. 🏳️

[livid fable]

are there waves?

is the hill another fail condition or is it the only success condition? I.e. are there infinite waves of enemies and you have to hold the hill for so much time?

do enemies spawn / drop as soon as the old wave is almost wiped or is it a timed drop thing?

[white birch]

Cool

[livid fable]

four pla

[onyx latch]

Most people who haven't been paying attention to the flood cosmetics have been, considering two of those asks are satisfied.

All Jega Boss wave

[livid fable]

WHY would i want to enable a skull mid round for doing WELL

why can't we just have firefight where skulls happen if you beat enough waves

why is this so hard

[onyx latch]

[signal ivy]

wasn't someone in here complaining about no skulls in firefight the other day?

and now we know there are skulls

[livid fable]

that would make no sense

[onyx latch]

Because they aren't out to satisfy you specifically, I suppose.

[livid fable]

true, but they were out to satisfy people asking for firefight

[onyx latch]

Also, it's not mid round.

It's at the end of a round.

Though blind being one of those skulls is something that actually does annoy me.

[livid fable]

yeah, it's just tied to how hard you come out the gate instead of how far you progress

[onyx latch]

But that's because the Blind skull is the worst skull in the history of ever.

[onyx latch]

I fail to see how this is a bad thing.

[livid fable]

because it means if i play hard it gets harder, faster.

[onyx latch]

... Annnnnd that's bad?

[livid fable]

yes.

[onyx latch]

How? That sounds great to me.

[livid fable]

it's like if you were playing mario and you didn't die on the first level so all the enemies on the next level take 5 hits to kill instead of 1

[onyx latch]

That still doesn't sound bad to me.

[livid fable]

but you're on level 2

[onyx latch]

Especially because I know you're exaggerating the effect.

[livid fable]

literally i'm not. consider the skulls.
blind, black eye, famine

[onyx latch]

I did consider them.

And I determined that the only one with a disproportionate effect is the first one because suddenly losing your shield bar and equipment meter sucks.

[livid fable]

they're supposed to activate as you progress to make it harder as you advance. Now they activate early if you do better making it harder to advance in the first place.

[onyx latch]

Right here is where I did that btw

[livid fable]

black eye is the most annoying to me because it requries consistently functional melee mechanics

[onyx latch]

Sounds like a meaningless distinction made just to be a pedant, honestly.

[livid fable]

then i can't help you understand why i dislike it.

god i hope i can fix this crap in forge

[onyx latch]

"It gets harder if you advance" vs "It gets harder if you advance, with more challenge if you do well"

Which doesn't sound like something that really needs fixing, lmao

The only 'fix' that really should exist is carpet bombing the blind skull out of existence

[livid fable]

it gets harder FASTER versus it gets harder CONSISTENTLY

[livid fable]

and if you don't mind the difference, that's fine, but I DO.

[onyx latch]

It consistently gets harder if you do consistently well.

[livid fable]

i don't.

[onyx latch]

:>

So just blow yourself up with grenades I guess if you don't like it?

[livid fable]

or fix it in forge?

Blowing self up with grenades doesn't make it consistent, it makes it nonexisten

just christ. it's such a simple mode. they don't have to put a new spin on everything. it's okay to let things that work, work.

[onyx latch]

It also wasn't a serious suggestion lmao

They're doing it different because they chose to, and you're framing it like they're too incompetent to 'do it right' when it isn't the same for a reason.

[livid fable]

oh no, i'm not framing it like they're incompetent

i'm framing it as I've been waiting for firefight and this isn't firefight.

It's very obvious that they chose to do it this way.

Otherwise it would have to be this way on accident and that doesn't make any sense

[onyx latch]

You can kinda see where I got the impression that you're calling them incompetent.

[onyx latch]

Because it kinda sounds like it.

[onyx latch]

In fact, it seems abundant.

[livid fable]

Why is it so hard to get through that we want firefight.

[livid fable]

This isn't firefight and it's what they're calling it

[livid fable]

and i greatly dislike this concept so i want to fix it in forge.

It likely works exactly as intended.

[onyx latch]

They're calling it Firefight KOTH, actually. Hence the hills.

[livid fable]

I don't know what 'incompetent' means to you

[onyx latch]

Weird, is English your second language?

[livid fable]

no, it's my primary. Which is why I know incompetent means not competent at doing what you're trying to do.

[livid fable]

Which is why this matters to me

[onyx latch]

Oh. Then where's the confusion?

[livid fable]

the confusion is that you say i'm framing it as though they're incompetent.

They're obviously very competent. Forge shows this. So it's extremely frustrating that instead of firefight, i get this zone capturing dynamic crap

[onyx latch]

You should go on the internet and complain.

... Wait a second.

[livid fable]

if i can fix it in forge, i'll let you know

if i can't, i'm just not touching it again

[onyx latch]

Okay, Mr.Noseless.

||(Please tell me I don't have to explain why I said that to anyone)||

[livid fable]

i don't get the reference.

but look. if you enjoy it as is, great. I don't. That's what i'm saying. I would like firefight. not firefight koth. this isn't what i've been waiting for.

[onyx latch]

I'm saying it's cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[livid fable]

how so?

[onyx latch]

You're so hellbent on being angry about a new format of a PvE mode because it's not exactly the same as a mode that's over a decade removed that you aren't even willing to give the new one a shot just because of how it sounds.

[livid fable]

Trench.

It's literally not what i've been waiting for.

it might be fine as a mode. it might be generally fun.

it's not what i've been waiting for.

what i've been waiting for is something i enjoy, a lot.

getting something different is just.......

[onyx latch]

And if you're willing to not play it, even if it's fun, because it's not the exact same as what you've been waiting for, then it's terminating your nose's tenancy below your eyes and above your mouth for the purposes of satiating your own frustrations.

[livid fable]

it's not about not being willing to play it, it's about this not being what was asked for.

there are custom games that are very fun and chill and goofy

they aren't firefight.

if you told me you were making firefight and you gave me those instead, i would be just as irritated

if you told me i was cutting my nose off to spite my face because i didn't want to play them because they were different, you'd be wrong

it's not that i want to not play that, it's that i want to play FIREFIGHT.

[ruby knoll]

midfight

[onyx latch]

🤷‍♂️ There's honestly nothing you've said so far that has convinced me that you're not just trying at any cost to say that you totally aren't doing that thing I'm saying is a weird thing to do.

[ruby knoll]

new format slaps

[onyx latch]

So maybe it's time to grab a clock and say to stop.

[livid fable]

cool, people with negative opinions are just spiting their face

[onyx latch]

If that's how you want to take what I'm saying, by all means, but it's not.

[livid fable]

i don't think i could convince you water was wet

[onyx latch]

I could even gift wrap it for you if you wanted.

🎁

[signal ivy]

water isn't wet, it makes things wet

[onyx latch]

I'm always wet

[tepid latch]

@livid fable just play a ver of firefight without the skull stuff? there's definitely going to be a version of it at some point

[onyx latch]

Because I end up doing the dishes a lot.

[ruby knoll]

as someone who's been waiting for pve content, the upcoming changes are interesting.

[livid fable]

you mean there's a difference between general pve and firefight? what a world!

[tepid latch]

I think itll be fun esp since the only time skulls came on before was for bonus rounds (i think) this will make it an actual fun challenge throughout

[onyx latch]

Honestly, I'm more excited for PvE in general than I am literally anything else in the update. Though the crosscore is up there.

[ruby knoll]

crossbore

cross snore

[livid fable]

negative. beat a round, a skull turns on

[onyx latch]

Being able to set up the dumbest fortresses full of Jega armada traps.

[livid fable]

*set, rather than a round

[onyx latch]

You will be drowned by the tide of Emile Fursonas, AC

Dread it, run from it, they'll come for you all the same

[livid fable]

@tepid latch first skull to turn on in reach was "Catch" i think

[onyx latch]

Tough Luck.

[livid fable]

and it would pervade the entire next set

yup, that was it

[ruby knoll]

the real problem is that the cores didn't have enough content out of the gate. More content for the individual cores has always been my preferred solution

[onyx latch]

Honestly I'm just happy that we're getting torso and shoulders that weren't in the original Reach now

[tepid latch]

Yeah I think skulls just spice up the game more as playing the same rounds of Firefight over and over again would just get boring, putting skulls on if you do well to make it more of a challenge I think would give each game a more unique experience

[onyx latch]

So I don't have to wear the Reach core.

[ruby knoll]

ugly core