halo-discussion

[eternal lion]

it can be used to teleport yourself to the previous location you were

[golden flicker]

Ok, thx

Also why are my settings reset on every new launch?

Ok so folder with settings should be not read only. Where is it?

%LOCALAPPDATA%\HaloInfinite\Settings

[open umbra]

The introduction of jackel snipers. (just kidding)
Probably the story.

[ruby knoll]

carried hard by the writing

[limpid pollen]

do XP boosts only apply to challenges?

[crystal iron]

Challenges and match xp(one that counts to battle pass)

[limpid pollen]

so if i get 500 xp for playing BTB ill get 1000 when using a boost?

not including challenges?

[crystal iron]

Yes

[limpid pollen]

poggy

[golden flicker]

I got rat charm!

[livid fable]

not necessarily.

with husky raid, the spawn points are VERY predictable. Additionally, any of them can spawn in with a sniper rifle.

And there's often a straight line of fire between where they spawn and where you need to take the flag. So if someone isn't working suppression, the odds of getting it back to base successfully are a lot lower.

[devout kite]

Can 343 give me teammates that know how to play the game like come on

Like I’m tired of having teammates that doesn’t know or won’t help for the win

I shouldn’t be carrying the team every single match

[bold mauve]

bruh same it was so bad today, i just started playing FFA

[hollow bobcat]

I mean, it's not just predictable, it's straightforward. Everybody knows what the spawn points are. The problem is that act of suppression is just a cover to suggest it's okay to only go for kills without objective play.

[livid fable]

i wasn't in your game, so i couldn't say for sure. it's entirely possible you called the situation correctly. i'm only commenting that there is a valid reason to not go after the flag- whether or not your guys were honest actors, you were in a better spot to say.

[hollow bobcat]

The problem is that some people believe that there are supposed to be Slayer roles. Suppressing the enemy is one thing If you have to defend the flag carrier or clear the area to capture the flag. Most people don't play objectives though because they are simplistic and only want to impress people with their KD ratios.

[livid fable]

how do we know?

[hollow bobcat]

Because of what I witnessed. Literally going into the spawn, having the flag open to them, and not even remotely looking at it.

[celest heron]

ugh, I get an exterm in husky raid and bring the flag within ten feet to score but my team not only didn't grab it to score, but the other team counter capped.

[visual venture]

Finally the Playlist and game modes on Halo Infinite are just perfect.

Keep the good work

[round forge]

I'd had an idea of having a playlist in MCC to be a sort of opposite to snipers where instead of focusing on long range it would be close range only with close range weapons spawning and armour abilities (if applicable) being ones focused on close range combat like dodge, sprint and Promethean vision. This came to mind as some of my favourite weapons to use are close range.

[glacial tartan]

Back in 360 H3 there was a playlist called Team Melee that rotated in - 343 could literally copy/paste creative playlists that we had 15 years ago

But instead we're going to have the same 6 playlists rotating out every week until who knows when 😦

[round forge]

I think ghost town may be the worst map in halo history.

[celest heron]

there's a team duals gametype. I doubt a playlist would be very popular.

[grim citrus]

Lol I don’t think a day has passed where you said that you had an overall great MM experience in infinite

[normal chasm]

i wanna know whats up with the matchmaking. Amount of times I'll be put in a match thats halfway through happens alot and most of the time its the team thats being destroyed by the other. If it isnt that then the matches are just insane with low level bad players on my team against a well synchronized opp team.

yet when i see some random content creator, theyve got the most bot looking gameplay, go against bot players that just stand there or not even shoot back but just conveniently come in one by one for them to drop several killionaires or something.

[honest kettle]

So I haven't played Halo Infinite since early last year. Was disappointed with the lack of content. I know there's been quite a few updates since then. So is it worth going back to or should I just stick to the MCC?

[grim citrus]

If you dropped a game because of content, you’re more likely not going to enjoy the game with content

[devout kite]

Not my fault that the game like to give me bad teammates

[grim citrus]

First mistake is going in solo when you know the struggles

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results

[honest kettle]

That's not necessarily true. I didn't drop it because I thought the gameplay was bad. I dropped it because the gameplay was solid but nothing much to do. A lot of basic modes were missing at launch and I didn't really want to support a half baked game.

[grim citrus]

You’re asking people if you should return to a game that has a lot of content now. Instead of asking, you should’ve just returned if you thought the gameplay was good

[honest kettle]

Just looking for an opinion man. No need to be so combative.

[grim citrus]

Combative? Lol

[honest kettle]

Rude, unpleasant, etc. Whatever word you'd like to use lol. All you had to say was "Yes, I think it's worth returning to" or "No, I don't think it's worth returning to". That's it. Not that deep lol

[grim citrus]

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[honest kettle]

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[vagrant ore]

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[tulip tusk]

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[honest kettle]

Ellipsis

[slim flint]

my guess is that people realize the game is dead lost for their team and leave the match, which leaves the space open in the lobby for other people to join

[normal chasm]

i guess that falls back on the matchmaking again then. I sometimes get matches that are literally unplayable with the other team all on high levels and on my team are low level players with 2 of them AFK in their spawnpoint.

[red spindle]

anyone notice that suddenly infection lobbies take forever to queue?

previously was instantaneous for me

[faint pilot]

and forever to load, too.

[red spindle]

thats really sdad

im guessing they added csr to it or something.

if anyone else could weigh in please do

[scarlet shuttle]

I just experienced why Husky Raid can suck

Spawn Killing

We should spawn in safe zone.

As long as we don’t get out, no one can shoot us and we can’t shoot them.

They stole 3 flag in 15 seconds because of this.

[faint pilot]

Every single husky raid map is just a spawnkiller's paradise. two spawns and a narrow hallway.

[scarlet shuttle]

It’s like if there was no reset when you play Hockey or Soccer 😂 and people could keep kicking the ball over and over to score point

[faint pilot]

or no ref in mma, so the guy who won five minutes ago just keeps beating on whats left of the other guys face

[red spindle]

thats kinda intended tho

[quasi finch]

I love it

I don’t even get snipers often

I just grapple all around

Or use whatever I got

[faint pilot]

i would love it too, if it wasnt ctf

[ivory glacier]

That’s the point of husky raid. What team can overtake the other and hold them back so the flag guy stays alive

[red spindle]

yeah it seems like whatever update was done to the playlists has made Infection lobbies sparse :\

[crystal iron]

I finished the campaign I still don't consider it bad I would say about what I expect from a Halo game story

[faint pilot]

Same. I think people just trash it because it's a 343 game, and not as good as the Bungie era. Same as Halo 4's campaign. Decent, but not as good as the ones before.

[golden flicker]

How tf do I fix Halo Infinite settings getting reset?

[lime robin]

I was getting worried until I saw you're on PC

Check something for me @golden flicker

[golden flicker]

What is it?

[lime robin]

Open a folder and go to C:)\Users

You should see three folders, one of them should have your name or whatever you named your PC profile, yes?

[golden flicker]

Yes, it's PC

[lime robin]

Just PC? No special characters or anything?

Ah, so it's in slavic characters

Oh he got muted

Well anyways, sorry to burst your bubble but Infinite IS affected by the characters on that folder, I know it because it's happened before and I have seen it plenty of times in this server.

Whatever you do, don't just change the name of the folder, that'll cause more problems than it solves.

I'm talking full Windows reinstall.

[tepid latch]

are you saying this to fix the infinite reset settings bug? or am i missing something??

[lime robin]

That's a PC-exclusive solution

[knotty ermine]

okay so im watching the cinematic cutscenes for the seasons on youtube and there are more cutscenes than I remember. where did they come from? How did they play these cutscenes? was there some pve mission?

[lime robin]

You'd get to see the rest as soon as you finished the event pass with 10 tiers.

[knotty ermine]

lmao

[lime robin]

...which is free.

[knotty ermine]

is there a way to access the cutscenes in game?

Hold on. I bought the cloud9 kit wayy back for halo infinite but they also sold the colors for it but I can't access because I didn't buy the individual one? yeah no wonder why I'm not spending money on this game

[tepid latch]

wait so the pc only fix is to reinstall windows? im little confused?

also i guess im not running into the exact settings reset issue, but moreso that the settings menu/brightness menu opens everytime i open the game

[olive brook]

the world if they moved invasion to social on mcc

[livid fable]

but servers cost money!

anyway, yeah, I honestly do not expect them to get the market to a peaceable state anytime soon. because although the features there are frustrating, having a good market will mean absolutely nothing if people aren't willing to spend money on the game in the first place.

[neon vapor]

Not anymore but there’s used to be, don’t know why they removed it though.

[river minnow]

and they're not making anymore..

[livid fable]

I think the model they were originally using was designed for player versus environment but they tried to substitute it with player versus player instead. that led to some cinematic cutscenes that felt extremely out of place for the gameplay that you used to unlock them. this is a big reason that people complained about them.

[lime robin]

It's complicated, but basically Infinite can't save the bindings on PC because it's not compatible with non-latin characters on a certain, very important folder.

[limpid pollen]

is it just me or does the hammer in infinite feel kind of weaker?

[open umbra]

Maybe that's the networking issue?

[onyx latch]

It's less forgiving and operates differently from the old hammer (Which was really more of a glorified energy sword).

It's an excellent setup-and-knockdown weapon, but people expect it to be an instakill roomkiller at all times.

It has a rather large deshield radius, which is best paired with a secondary weapon for the purposes of shooting the disoriented and distracted opfor.

[limpid pollen]

ya i feel like whenever i use it im always JUST out of killing range

i guess its just the wider and longer range that makes me swing too early

[onyx latch]

I don't typically use it with the expectation of being in killing range because I don't really view it as anything more than a weaponized repulse.

[neon vapor]

The rush down hammer on the other hand…..

That thing has a insanely huge kill radius

[celest heron]

hammer is just too inconsistent

[livid fable]

VERY.

okay, so, couldn't find the video, but saw a guy testing gravity hammer physics on different network conditions

long story short, the physics don't work properly all the time depending on network environment. warthogs don't fly like they should, mongooses don't flip, etc.

the range of the gravity hammer also appears to depend on something with the network. it doesn't have consistent killing range. if you want to use the gravity hammer effectively, you have to start swinging it before you turn a corner, then swap to the other weapon so you can headshot after shields got taken down

[devout kite]

Nice to see 343 won’t add the BTB multiple to squad battles since squad battles is an arena game mode

[celest heron]

networking issues seems to be an ongoing thing that won't go away.

[livid fable]

the melee power weapons are just too toned down in this game. like.... 2 hits kills someone with a normal melee. 1 hit kills with the sword. But bleedthrough works, and someone who sees a sword guy coming at them will shoot first and then they'll melee and kill each other. Which makes the sword roughly as viable an option as an assault rifle in halo 3.

obviously if you ambush instead of running in, the blade works a lot better- but when you have to use methods that get you assassinations anyway, the sword feels kinda pointless in this game.

[onyx latch]

The irony, of course, being that this is literally an issue in every Halo game.

Because that's literally how it's worked in every Halo game with one exception-pre TU Reach and its lack of melee bleedthrough.

[devout kite]

343 needs to label squad battles as btb not arena

[onyx latch]

This isn't new to Infinite.

[onyx latch]

???

[devout kite]

343 label squad battles as arena not btb

[onyx latch]

Well, it's not BTB, so.

[devout kite]

In the older halo games it’s label as btb not arena

[onyx latch]

K

It's not now lmao

[devout kite]

You think it’s funny when it’s a problem since normal btb now have applied score that doesn’t apply to sqaud battles

What if someone wants to play squad battles guess what they don’t get the applied score since that only a btb thing

[ruby knoll]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/223677948249505802/1062186371550302278/ARpinion.gif

[livid fable]

? i don't remember most weapons being able to counter the sword in halo 3. that was notoriously what the shotgun was best for. what gives?

[onyx latch]

Melee bleedthrough would have a chance at winning in fights if the server detected it as connecting first.

It's kind of the point.

To counter the sword's two... points.

[livid fable]

assuming sword vs melee, you're saying if sword registered first, no melee bleedthrough damage to sword user?

[onyx latch]

Wrong way around. Sword user big dead.

[livid fable]

so if sword user registered last, no melee bleedthrough damage to sword user?

[onyx latch]

... How do I need to parse this for you to understand the statement?

[livid fable]

"Melee bleedthrough would have a chance at winning in fights if the server detected it as connecting first."
"you're saying if sword registered first, no melee bleedthrough damage to sword user?"
"Wrong way around. Sword user big dead."

[onyx latch]

You get shot low enough and swing 'second' as a sword weilder on the network end. You receive a metal gauntlet punching you directly in the bicuspids through your shields and helmet, and you die.

As bleedthrough ordains.

[livid fable]

help me out here.
"You're saying if SWORD registered first" - "then Sword user big dead"
"You swing SECOND as sword user" - "and you die"

[onyx latch]

You're getting super confused over something I'm explaining perfectly clearly.

[livid fable]

you're appearing to say that if sword user registers hitting first or second the sword user dies

[onyx latch]

The first here is the bleedthrough, not the sword. Never was the sword.

[livid fable]

from which i gathered, "assuming sword vs melee, you're saying if sword registered first, no melee bleedthrough damage to sword user?"

[onyx latch]

Then you gathered wrong.

[livid fable]

"Melee bleedthrough would win if it connected first."
"Does that mean if it did not connect first, it would not win?"
"No."

[onyx latch]

Yes, it's no.

[livid fable]

so melee could connect first OR second and still win

[onyx latch]

Maybe.

[crystal iron]

It would be nice to have emotes in infinite.

[arctic copper]

Does infinite have classic controls?

[coarse dagger]

You can remap almost everything, so you could create it if it doesn't exist

[vernal plover]

You gotta change the settings

[devout kite]

No

[smoky wave]

I agree with this

We should be able to dance while killing our enemies

I want to dab them

[devout kite]

No this isn’t fortnite

[smoky wave]

I don't care

Let me dab to my enemies

[radiant sundial]

^

[devout kite]

If you want to dab on your enemies than go to fortnite leave emote out of infinite

[smoky wave]

Nah huh, 343 should do it

Also should be amazing doing emotes with my AI like Lumu

[devout kite]

Leave emotes out of infinite this game shouldn’t have emotes period

[smoky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/master-chief-get-griddy-fortnite-right-foot-creep-sir-hitting-the-griddy-gif-26556108

This is amazing and should be in Infinite, I want to hit the griddy in all maps

[devout kite]

Teabag all we need

[coarse dagger]

Dabbing in Halo would be hilarious

[smoky wave]

Dabbing, dancing, doing stuff like that

[ruby knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-master-chief-halo-dance-pog-moment-gif-19757065

[rotund bluff]

Infinites balance is both so amazing yet so horrible

[devout kite]

No

[tepid latch]

lmao instead of still poses at the end of matches we just have s bunch of spartans dancing?!? im in!

[smoky wave]

Even during match

[coarse dagger]

Full team up for the run, cap the flag, we all burst into the YMCA

[full warren]

Is there server problems I am waiting extra long tongith to find games

like 4+ mins to 8 mins to not even get a game

Sometimes I get team slayer in like 20-30s but today I waited 4 mins about 3 times, got 2 games and gave up once

[coarse dagger]

Haven't seen any other reports so far

Generally of there's outages / issues, quite a few people will be commenting

[full warren]

I literally been searching since 15 mins ago and only just got a game because I gave up on BTB and social slayer and choose husky riad because its the most popular

I literally picked none CSR based queues to try to find quick games but its not even working

I do not beleive the entire EU just decided to go to sleep 15 mins aog lol

[lime saddle]

does anyone know of a fix for halo infinites audio sounding muffled? it usually makes my whole computers sounds muffled and just bad quality

[red spindle]

this is happening for me as well in infection. queue is completely dead.

has been that way for 2 days now

one way to kill off the remaining fanbase.

if it keeps up over the weekend im going to just switch over to some other games at this point

[young glen]

Try switching your search setting to expanded.

[young glen]

You'd need to create a post in #1075989764026675210 with more info than that, as it's likely due to something on your end or with Windows being finicky with whichever audio device you're using.

[lime saddle]

will do, thanks

[full warren]

its always been on expanded lol

[young glen]

Well.

Damn, lol.

[crystal iron]

What if I don't play fortnite?

[devout kite]

Leave the emotes and dabbing in fortnite

[ruby knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-halo-master-chief-dance-dab-gif-19811425

dab on the haters

[open umbra]

Really need the match composer to mix up the playlist.

I don't know if emotes would work in infinite, maybe for telling randoms about trading weapons, notifying enemy locations either way. (I know we already have the ping system, but sometimes it just hard to let people notice)
Also, it needs to be only restricted to first person view since if all emotes bring you to the third person view and free cam (because its an "customizable expression"), there will be some players take advantage of that and make some strategies kind of invalid.
But if those are stick to first person view, then i don't think those complicated animations like you guys mentioned above would work.

[slim flint]

anything to somehow combat hiding behind a corner

[open umbra]

Also if it's third person view, it may like the assassination in reach, 4 and 5 or armour lock in reach, you can't tell where the performers camera are facing, which may lead to a failed backsmack/assassination attempt. Besides the emotes are able to cancel "at any time", which can make these incidents I mentioned above occurred much more often (not to mention there already has the networking issue in game).
And I'm sure there will be some complaints about these things if third person emotes are added.

[normal chasm]

Squad battle can't get into even though it says a 30 second wait. Also seriously wtf is up with the matchmaking. Every lobby is sweaty to an extreme and my teammates are just awful at the game. Sometimes I'm going up against the same people over and over again. Is it just me or has anyone else noticed this?

[open umbra]

The estimated time I think it wouldn't be updated until you get in a match or custom game (that's what I did to update it), which means it doesn't fully represent the time accurately. (I sometimes can't get a match which it told me it'll take only 40 or so seconds, and after I played a match from other playlist, it would jump to almost 2 minutes)

[normal chasm]

A week ago it was fine but now squad battle and btb is impossible to get into. But my god this game is just frustrating with the matches I've been getting recently...

[open umbra]

And that's why I think 343 should develop a match composer ASAP to make us able to get a match faster since the playlists are separating the remaining player count.

[crystal iron]

I'm playing big Team Battle right now and can see that they still have yet to fix the spawning of vehicles to be balanced for both sides

[normal chasm]

just as i talk about this, just got thrown into a match on the losing team AGAIN 16-37 like what is the point

and it took like a good 1 min 30 for the game to put me in that match on quick play

enjoyment is not an option with multiplayer anymore it seems

[normal chasm]

quick play only ever seems to be the same modes on the same maps aswell. they should look into that maybe itll help lol

[open umbra]

My wishlist on matchmaking system (priority from high to low):

1. Match Composer
2. Server Region Selection
3. MMR Based Matchmaking Toggle (Also make player's MMR visible)
4. Pre/Post Game Lobby
5. Veto System (make the match composer as the first game filter)
6. Lobby-wise Match Composer (Organize all players match composer options and let them customize the playlist for the lobby, this will trigger if the first veto failed)
7. Social Matchmaking Browser (MMR matchmaking toggle should set to "off" and only shows non-MMR based match and its lobby playlist options)

[normal chasm]

yeah it needs it. As much as I love halo, the multiplayer in this game is becoming miserable to play. I also hate how no matter what someone elses melee still counts when i melee kill them first. Like itll literally come up on my screen that ive killed them but a second later i die to their melee like wtf

sometimes my melees just dont even register i thought that was fixed a few seasons ago

[neon vapor]

More and likely because the game is getting more players, the more players with similar skill level join, the more strict the matchmaking.

[open umbra]

I think that the delayed melee may due to the networking issues. Either the ping or the quality of the network between you and the server you connected to for the match, the latter may cause the packet loss and make the input you give invalid or needs to send it again and becomes the delay you experienced.

[crystal iron]

Halo 2 has aged as well as spoiled milk on a hot summers night in California

[sinful agate]

That’s been happening to you too? I keep hitting and continuing on thinking I got the kill only to get hit in the back by that guy bc the melee didn’t even happen..

Also either there are a ton of cheaters in infinite matchmaking now or the hit boxes are messed up. I’ve hit multiple people point blank with rockets, fusion coils, gravity hammers, etc. and they’re perfectly fine but I’ll get 1-shotted by a *cindershot that didn’t land near me

[grim citrus]

Out of all the 3 multiplayers, I prefer H2’s over CE AND 3

[open umbra]

Wait, plasma caster in infinite? Or you mean the Cindershot?

[sinful agate]

Sorry got it confused with the H5 one, now I’m blanking on the name 💀

Yea cindershot

[crystal iron]

Insane take

[grim citrus]

Why is it an insane take?

[open umbra]

That's mostly due to ping. I live in Asia and I usually get into a high ping match, the things you mentioned are always a thing to me and my older brother (although he's still able to slay enemies with ease with his own strategy).

[sinful agate]

What is ping

and how does it let guys kill me with less shots than normal / survive my kill shots

It’s usually pretty obvious if I’m lagging so ik it isn’t that, plus some of these are scenarios where the guys running straight at me and I hit him

[open umbra]

It can also be called as latency, which is the time your packet take to transport it from you (the host) to the server (the result time should cut in half since you need to get the response from server to confirm its been received)

[tame crane]

How does one get the Special Warfare Center emblem/nameplate in Infinite? 👀

[open umbra]

Just a reminder this is just my unprofessional opinion on it, since I only learned computer networking in college.

[onyx latch]

Jesus, what the hell?

Out of you, that's insane.

I'm actually legitimately surprised.

[frosty condor]

This one?

[tame crane]

Yes 🤩

[frosty condor]

[onyx latch]

Better question Footed.

What is the pig emblem from?

Someone named Jerrycom42 has it. Never seen it before.

I assume it's Forge related.

https://twitter.com/ShadowYokai_/status/1699996713388228837/photo/1

[tame crane]

I believe Olive is only for 343 employees maybe 🧐

[sinful agate]

Oh ok thanks

[onyx latch]

I doubt it. Most 343i stuff is more heavily livery based from what I've seen.

[tame crane]

Well Olive goes back to an inside thing between employees, forgot exactly what it was so a lot of them have Olive the Pig stuff and its rare that anyone outside of the company gets it

[sinful agate]

You had to beta test infinite apparently

[frosty condor]

[tame crane]

😧

[open umbra]

Since every input you give can be viewed as a instruction, which will be encapsulated as a packet, the higher ping you are to the server, the higher latency and chances to lose a packet due to the congestion between routers (the packet loss).
The latancy difference will make you and your enemies see different results, since the game is shooter first, the players with lower latency will able to get the advantage.

[tame crane]

Well looks like I'll never be getting that cuz its rare I even get invited to beta tests or flights even with being an insider

[sinful agate]

Ah

[frosty condor]

It wasn't flight related

It's from the Pilot group

[tame crane]

Whelp

[frosty condor]

https://twitter.com/snickerdoodle/status/1700003917512245652?s=20

sam (@snickerdoodle)

@ShadowYokai_ :)

Twitter · Sep 8, 2023, 4:31 AM

[onyx latch]

Oh, dear. I didn't even know Sam had a Twitter account.

[frosty condor]

Surprise(?)

[onyx latch]

Guess so.

Hey, quick add on question, Footed. For posting to Show and Tell.

What's the proper tag for Blender art?

[frosty condor]

Good question. I guess just put that?

[onyx latch]

I was figuring 3d art.

I think I'll go with that.

[frosty condor]

That's proper, yea

[tame crane]

I wonder who has the most items in infinite or if theres any way to check 👀 my list of items I don't have is severly low lol

[frosty condor]

I think pins before posting has everything so far that's come out in the shop or twitch drops

[tame crane]

as do i minus the adrenal bundle since the game won't let me purchase it 😫 and then im missing the granular and monarch coatings for promo and the watchdog for 152 and then ice unicorn and the forge stuff but pretty sure i got everything else thats not exclusives like the swc nameplate 😬

[frosty condor]

Nice!

I only buy stuff that I like and I’ll wear

[crystal iron]

My friend from south america was ranting about halo infinite having terrible match search times in there, so I thought I'd share his experience in a family-friendly manner

He averages 0-40 ping on games like Fortnite, Rocket League and CoD MW2022, he lives in the state where the servers are located
He has a 2000s nvidia graphics card, (series, not release year) and idk about the other specs, he plays on lowest settings with using settings that make his game average 60FPS
he searched for a quick play match at 08/08/2023 22:19 (10:19PM) Brasília (Brazil) Timezone with expanded settings
he took exactly 03:42 minutes to find a match, around 1 more minute until the match started (loading included)
The game showed that the estimated wait was 0:42

I feel bad for users at SA/AU that have to use VPNs or wait very long times just to play Halo Infinite.

This is not a jab at the Devs or anything like that, just wishing that this game had more players.

[crystal iron]

Update: I asked him to reopen the game and look for another match again to see how bad it is now.
He took exactly 06:01 minutes to find a match. Expected wait time was 0:51 The match lasted 4:56 minutes.

He hasn't recorded the games due to affecting performance, but he has recorded himself in the lobby waiting for matches, so if anyone does not believe the times for some reason, I can ask him to send me the footage.

[serene furnace]

Weekly reward is the Halo 3 rat I see

Nice

[scarlet shuttle]

Challenge ask for 30 kill in PvP, I did 30 kill in one match, got 29/30 for the challenge. Why is this still a thing 2 years later?

[ebon oriole]

Anyone know when 343 will stop rigging matchmaking? It's becoming obvious and they can only hide behind the lie of desync is the issue for so long

[tepid latch]

matchmaking isnt rigged

[coarse dagger]

^ this, it's absolutely not rigged. That's just nonsense

[native tinsel]

How is it rigged?

[tepid latch]

tell me how its rigged and pls give sources

[smoky wave]

I'm not crazy, I know they switched numbers

[faint pilot]

This has to be a meme. Do you have any idea how much effort it would take to rig everyones games, and for such little gain, too.

[tepid latch]

Lol i know there was a lot of talk from youtubers a while back about matches being rigged to keep people playing, but also a lot of youtubers arent game devs and wont understand how making a match fair also means that games won/lost will also end up being 50/50. like i definitely remember that being a huge point of contention

[faint pilot]

besides, like I said, that's just a much more roundabout way of doing what was supposed to be done in the first place except in the end everyones confused and frustrated and nobody gets what they want.

[livid fable]

rigged?

what does rigged even mean in this context? Rigged in whose favor?

[low musk]

Sometimes I think the MM is imbalanced at times, but hardly rigged

[vivid quiver]

does anyone know if/when the papaya dusk coating is gonna be available

[full warren]

If they mean its rigged that its giving you a 50% win rate then yes it is rigged. When you are a onyx player and go into social technically you should be winning 70% of your games but you do because the match maker forces you to play with worse team amtes to balanced out the teams so yes its rigged against you winning 70% of your games if everything is random. That what the youtubers are talking about

This only helps average players but hurts the top 10% and bottom 10% because they get put together so they stomp the noobs and the good players just feel like they have to try hard to carry every game

[faint pilot]

that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard, if it's true.

[tawny crow]

still annoyed we never got to see the halo 4 brute design properly

looked pretty badass in the prologue

[analog salmon]

why are there no brutes in that covenant

[onyx latch]

I assumed it was because there weren't many Brutes on friendly terms with pro-Covenant religion Sangheili, and most that were still pro-Covenant religion would've only been content with being top dogs due to the last decree of the Prophets.

[analog salmon]

hm

so what happened to the brutes in the covenant

[onyx latch]

Some stuck around in the Dreadnought, but the remainder split like the rest of the species into a myriad of fractitious warbands.

With no real religious chain of command anymore, even hardline religious Jiralhanae are going to be hard pressed to maintain their flock. So most likely worked on what nearly every pro-Covenant Ex-Covenant did; Focus on building power back up to carve out a pocket empire and claim to be the true heir of the old.

Effectively, the Covenant Balkanized hardcore, and the Halo Universe hasn't fleshed out what that means as thoroughly as it should be yet.

People also likely don't care much about what the WARBAND OF THE SUNDERED STAR or the WARBAND OF THE BROKEN TEETH, or the ever feared CIRCLE OF THE NEW COVENANT is up to, what their claim to power is, etc etc etc. That sort of hypernerddom is usually reserved for the likes of 40K and Battletech, where cool and awesome things like fancy livery and cutesie background info is the focal point.

[coarse dagger]

Nothing is giving you a 50% win rate, matchmaking an team balancers are set up to try and give each team as close to a 50% chance of winning as possible. Nothing is forced.
There will always be things that can impede how close that 50/50 match up is - population, players playing at the time, playlist popularity, etc.
If you're reaching a much higher than 50% win ratio, then it's likely you're playing against players much less skilled than you are.

There is absolutely nothing rigged about matchmaking. It's absolute nonsense

[hollow bobcat]

Anyone who says the match was rigged is a sore loser. Yell out loud to the enemy team about how the match was rigged. I wonder what they'll say.

Enemy team: 🤣😂 😆😁

Competition doesn't guarantee a solid result. You either win, lose, perform well, or get demolished. That's how life goes. Adding excuses just makes everything worse.

[red spindle]

you just explained how it is forced. the fact that matchmaking requires players of high csr to wait sometimes upwards 15 min for one match is the definition of forcing them into a certain match. you can bandy your rationalizations all you want, the whole system is a forced system. it would be fine if the game still allowed you to match if it wasnt able to find a skill appropriate game, but it doesnt - it prevents you from joining a match if it is too imbalanced in your favor. that is why the game will die inevitably and already has died. terrible system, clearly forced.

[red spindle]

the fact that you try to justify it in that way also showcases how absolutely dumb and impractical the logic is behind it too

[twin crag]

ig the clown pfp suits u

[smoky wave]

A pepe clown even

[red spindle]

bigotry towards frog people, what a surprise.

needless to say what i choose to identify as has nothing to do w this convo

[twin crag]

huh

[tame crane]

Let's not personally poke/jab etc at others in the convo

[analog salmon]

its semantics, but it """forces"""" balance. saying it forces a 50% win rate is wrong

i put forces in quotes because in reality it just aims for 50% odds and the odds can be quite varied in reality

its just on average, your odds of winning are going to trend towards 50%

and hence your win rate too

but say you end up with a 60% win rate somehow

the game wont make you lose games to bring it down towards 50%

so "forced win rate" is wrong

[hollow bobcat]

I think people are just talking about rigged matches in order to be popular. It's the recent trend.

Imagine playing a game of Uno with friends and you upend the table and yell about how the game was rigged.

[crystal iron]

Unpopular opinion: doom is just low sodium halo

Doom will never reach peak performance like halo did back in its prime

[hollow bobcat]

Doom is mainly a single player game. With that being said, Doom is the Pepsi Max of FPS games considering how crazy it plays, looks, and sounds.

[crystal iron]

Doom (especially modern doom) is nothing special imo.

Halo 2's story and lore make doom eternals story and lore look like a Disney Jr. Cartoon

Absolutely sad. How a game from 19 years ago has a better story setup than a modern game like doom eternal 😂

A game from a console that is 22 years old mind you 💀

[hollow bobcat]

Halo: A mystical ring from the ancient forerunners was created. Lots of lore about Spartans, aliens, etc.

Doom: Demons go boom!

Sometimes a game isn't good based on its story. The gameplay can easily make up for a lack of a story, especially when you're rocking to heavy metal while smashing things.

In fact, the other game heavily discourages a story to tell you. For example, the slayer viewing a monitor telling him what happened, but then throwing it away. Another person telling you the intricacies of the robot and how you have to carefully extract it, but you just grab it and drag it around like it was nothing.

What I'm trying to say is that both games have different design philosophies. Everything that you criticized was intentional because some people don't care about stories. They just care about destroying things.

[stone nimbus]

Might I offer a quote?
"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness, that is life." -Captain Jean-Luc Picard

[stone nimbus]

If you think modern Doom isn't like classic Doom, then you probably haven't played Doom 3: the most not-Doom-like Doom game
there's a reason it got rebooted, even though I enjoyed playing it

[hollow bobcat]

Captain Picard is the best captain.

[coarse dagger]

Can we shift the Doom talk to #general-chat ? Thanks

[celest heron]

I think I remember they looked at the data in h5 and noticed more people quit and stopped playing when the matching was more imbalanced versus balanced.

[midnight tree]

why do i keep spawning directly in front of enemy vehicles in Infinite's BTB

[celest heron]

also the matchmaker expects players to perform at a certain level which is what helps create the balance beforehand, but it can't predict if they'll under or over perform and that can hurt the balance.

[tepid latch]

had to read up a little, but damn i cannot believe some people dont understand odds... its not like the matchmaking can give both teams a 100% chance of winning, thats just impossible. trying for 50% for each team is the best result for balanced matchmaking

[grim citrus]

Why would you want the modern version to be like the original version?

Games are supposed to naturally evolve over time; learn what works, what doesn’t work, and how we can innovate and evolve.

If the game is the same game 30 years later, then it failed in my opinion.

[stone nimbus]

I'm not saying that modern Doom is classic Doom, it just took all the good stuff from past games
so yes, Doom evolved

[stone nimbus]

sports games

[tepid latch]

real

[knotty ermine]

How do you unmute the enemy team? I can't find the option and even in ffa everyone is muted

[young glen]

Is this about Infinite?

You can't hear the enemy team.

[knotty ermine]

Yeah. I can't find a way to communicate with them.

Why not? I want to

[young glen]

Not sure.

[knotty ermine]

so it's a bug I guess?

[crystal iron]

I forget what it's called the top of my head but check Audio for voice and chat options mine was off until I changed something in there

[young glen]

My best guess would be the social advantage of being able to communicate with the enemy team doesn't outweight the possibility of increased toxicity.

[crystal iron]

And I'm not home right now to look I'm at work

[young glen]

No, it's intentional.

[young glen]

He's talking about the enemy team, not his own.

You can't talk to enemies in Infinite.

[knotty ermine]

the hell you mean intentional?

[young glen]

...

[alpine bane]

can we still crouch on enemy ?

[crystal iron]

Oh you can't talk to the enemy team as far as I know

[knotty ermine]

I swear these dogsh companies want to police everything. this is why people are so annoyed about this

[young glen]

It's an intended action by the developers to keep voice and text chat within your own team only.

[knotty ermine]

the fact that this is also affected in ffa really annoys me. They couldn't make this an option but force it? f u

gotta love being policed by some corporation on what you can and cannot do... fun.

I swear if someone defends this. you're an idiot and part of the problem

[young glen]

Unfortunately, Xbox is one of the stricter companies when it comes to social moderation so it's something you gotta deal with if you want to play Halo.

[devout kite]

Someone can easily cheat in FFA if they allow us to talk to everyone

[knotty ermine]

how? it's free for all. how can voice chat allow cheating?

it's not ranked

[knotty ermine]

oh I noticed. with how baby sitting this discord server is. You wonder why I barely talk here.

[young glen]

This... doesn't happen. The only games that have boosting are those that allow you to search with a team mate, even then, it's rare.

[onyx latch]

It's more Quake than Doom tbh

TBF, Quake is freaking awesome, so

[knotty ermine]

good thing this is the only game i'm playing thats from microsoft and I ain't giving them a penny for this game

[onyx latch]

They're apparently getting rent space out of you for free.

[young glen]

Some of the filtered words are a bit strange but honestly it's okay here. As long as you're mature and constructive you won't have an issue here.

[knotty ermine]

apparently thats your only response

[knotty ermine]

lol meanwhile i've seen censorship in game of numbers

[crystal iron]

Wow, yeah, let’s start insulting people… what a great way to communicate…

[grim citrus]

What good stuff? Can you name some?

[knotty ermine]

yes. and your profile shows you're going to be bias here and defend every inch of this company. don't lie

[crystal iron]

How does my profile shows that I will be defending 343 in every way?

[knotty ermine]

...

not the brightest of the bunch I guess

[coarse dagger]

Chill

[devout kite]

What’s wrong with you bruh

[crystal iron]

Come on, tell me because at the moment you aren’t the brightest of the bunch

[knotty ermine]

... I literally don't know how to explain how someone with a odst profile picture with the username called ODST rookie can't be a fanboy to a franchise called Halo.

[coarse dagger]

It's move on time

[onyx latch]

Most people with ODST pfps I've met tend to have a hate-on for 343i, actually.

[coarse dagger]

Take it to DMs if you want to continue

[onyx latch]

Sorry, hit enter at the same time.

[knotty ermine]

I've seen the opposite. especially in halo mcc custom lobbies

[crystal iron]

Wow, what a great reason ngl

[crystal iron]

Tbh I don’t hate on anything

Just was too stupid to create better nickname long time ago and now people already recognize me as rookie on different servers

[devout kite]

It’s time to talk about something else

[grim citrus]

Like why brutes were in reach and 2, but not in CE

[crystal iron]

They have take a break, war is exhausting

[smoky wave]

Sleepy time

[knotty ermine]

how did they come up with the shader system and who was the greedy corporate that made the idea

[crystal iron]

Dooms story is soo doo doo it's no wonder it doesn't have a cult followed like halo lol

[grim citrus]

It is a business after all.

[devout kite]

Bruh it’s time to move on from the conversation or go to the dm

[coarse dagger]

Can we shift the Doom talk to #general-chat ? Thanks

[grim citrus]

Doom doesn’t have a following?

[knotty ermine]

true. every business has some greedy corp man

[grim citrus]

This is news to me.

[crystal iron]

Corporations will do a lot to earn more money

[knotty ermine]

and boy did that color system create some massive backlash. along with the microtransactions etc.

[crystal iron]

Yes. Most ppl are excited to see a new halo than a new doom

[grim citrus]

I mean, if people didn’t buy the shaders, would they continue to sell them?

[crystal iron]

Because the OG trilogy was that good

[grim citrus]

That wasn’t your argument.

Doom has a cult following.

[knotty ermine]

but that wasn't a thing before. they would continue to sell it regardless even if nobody bought it because all they're doing is putting them in bundles

[devout kite]

Could be worse we could have the season one store prices lol

[crystal iron]

Yeah lmao

[crystal iron]

It may. But not as big as halos

And there's a reason

[grim citrus]

I believe dota 2 no longer sells items in their game due to people not buying it. Why wouldn’t Microsoft do the same?

[crystal iron]

I guess we’ll have to live with it until the end of halo infinite. Hopefully next game won’t be free to play

[knotty ermine]

because different company. and like I said. bundles. they usually sell their items in bundles that come with armor and weapons so if you want that armor, the shader comes with it

csgo don't sell bundles where you have to buy a gun skin with a knife

[crystal iron]

I would say that doom’s cult following and halo’s cult following are just different, not that one is bigger for some reason.

[knotty ermine]

I agree. I rather pay for the game to actually have earnable rewards like the original game but free 2 play has ruined the game in a level that affects the player but not the company. because those new gamers don't know how good life was when you bought a game like black ops 2 and you can get everything by playing the game

[grim citrus]

But the claim you presented wasn’t talking about how big it was, but more of that if it had a cult following.

[crystal iron]

I feel in a sense. Ppl would go crazy over a reveal of a new halo game. While as for doom. It would just be like "oh, new doom game. Neat"

Does doom really have an identity?

[knotty ermine]

thats because doom launched in 2016 and there wasn't games coming out in between besides doom 3 and nobody talks about that one

[crystal iron]

Because apart of halos cult following is its identity of the early bungie games

[knotty ermine]

doom 2016 is great and so is eternal but it didn't have a following like halo because it didn't try making games during the age where gaming was rising

[onyx latch]

The fact you went with Black Ops 2 for this made it absolutely freaking hilarious to me.

[knotty ermine]

oh wait not black ops 2. I meant black ops 1. mybad

[onyx latch]

Like, of all the games you could've said, it was the one that had more MTX than any CoD before it at the time.

[knotty ermine]

idk why I was thinking of 2

[crystal iron]

I think that there’s definitely a lot of people who would go crazy over a new doom game reveal

[grim citrus]

Doom eternal sold 5.1 million copies alone on steam.

[knotty ermine]

ok

[crystal iron]

Yes

[crystal iron]

Some Ppl think doom eternal is "innovating the fps genre" but rlly. It's just the same as the last. And I expect ppls expectations will generally be mild. Nothing too much to expect out of a doom game

[knotty ermine]

you can't inovate anything anymore. there isn't much to innovate at this time and age

so idk what they were thinking

[grim citrus]

Now that’s a lie.

A lot of companies simply don’t innovate anymore because of the backlash they may get if they try to do something new

[crystal iron]

I highly doubt that even in the far distant future. Ppl would go crazy or crap their pants over a DOOM ETERNAL Remake. A halo ce remake would generate so much hype in this day in age because the game itself as THAT good.

[crystal iron]

Let’s be honest, innovation is risky

[grim citrus]

If that was the case, they would’ve done it already.

[knotty ermine]

But what would be considered an innovation?

[grim citrus]

Adding features that were not previously found in the game before it

[crystal iron]

Ppl in 2041 when doom eternal remake gets announced: 😴

When halo ce remake gets announced: LETS FREAKING GOOO YEAAAHHH!!!

[grim citrus]

Like for example, a halo battle royale would be an innovation

[crystal iron]

Tbh Idk. I feel like in this day and age doom is a little bit bigger franchise than halo

[knotty ermine]

nah I think by 2041 halo is probably dead

the only innovation I can think of is titanfall

[crystal iron]

Titanfall 2 was amazing. I’m so happy that respawn finally fixed servers

[crystal iron]

What about modern doom specifically has its own unique identity? Because for me the art style for the latest doom is all over the place

[knotty ermine]

then apex happened and titanfall is dead

[crystal iron]

🤔

[knotty ermine]

would battle royale be considered innovation? I considered it the cause of the damage it has done to gaming. in terms of live service

[crystal iron]

Nah imma be honest. The franchise is straight up dead. Any form of announcement of a new one won't bring much excitement. Modern doom just doesn't have much of a long lasting impact I feel. A game like Eternal won't be remembered much in the next 12 years or so. It's one of those niche games ppl will post on gaming forums calling it one of those "underrated hits that deserve more love and attention"

Halo on the other hand. There is a reason why ppl still remember halo ce to 3 (heck even reach!) So fondly. Doom just doesn't have that

Split gate was Innovative it didn't take off but it did bring something different

[knotty ermine]

doom as a franchise will never be forgotten. and so will halo

[smoky wave]

Tried

Splitgate had some good ideas but poorly executed, specially on the portal parts

[crystal iron]

Even a game like halo reach. Is far more praised and beloved than any doom game.

[knotty ermine]

no

[crystal iron]

Classic doom sure. But as for modern doom. Yeah not so much lol

[young glen]

Doom 1? Doom 2?

[knotty ermine]

you can't even compare these 2 franchises. they're not the same thing at all besides shooting things

[young glen]

Doom 2016?!

[crystal iron]

The point is it still tried something different and there are still areas they can innovate

[knotty ermine]

Doom doesn't even need a fanbase like halo because if another doom were to come out, I'd totally play it. but i'm not going crazy for it because when I got into gaming like a majority of us. doom wasn't even playabale at the time on a console

even on pc I had to use some emulator to play the original until doom 2016 came out

[crystal iron]

I shouldve made my point clear imo. I'm more referring to the modern doom games. Not doom in general. Sorry for the confusion

[devout kite]

Please move the doom talk to general

[coarse dagger]

If you want to talk about Doom, please move to #general-chat

[knotty ermine]

halo was constantly releasing games when xbox 360 was growing. then I moved to ps4

isn't this conversation about both doom and halo?

[crystal iron]

7/10 game. Nothing to crazy or special. It just came and went without no real lasting impact

Titanfall 2 has much more of a lasting impact than doom 2016 ever did

[crystal iron]

Ok ok

[knotty ermine]

tbh I think they just all play differently

you really can't compare games like titanfall, doom or halo and have a conversation about all 3 of them

thats like comparing call of duty to arma

[crystal iron]

Titanfall 2 probably would have done better if it hadn't released when it did it was sandwiched between the 2 of the biggest first person shooter franchises

I still go back and play it to this day

[knotty ermine]

And I bet you it was done on purpose. the moment ea bought off respawn. I had a conspiracy growing

you launched a game in between 2 popular games, set for it's demise and then later on you bought respawn right after. hmmmm

[crystal iron]

There's a well-known conspiracy theory behind that yeah

[crystal iron]

Yes. There are others who actually see halo reach as their favorite. Alot quite actually. And that game had many issues of its own. Only bungie could ever pull of making a masterpiece as their last and only halo game of the 2010s.

[knotty ermine]

forge saved halo reach. bloom was so bad in the game and the tu update 343 made still didn't help it.

if halo reach didn't have forge. it would've died and been on life support like infinite was during it's launch

I spent more time playing custom games in reach than the actual multiplayer. and I still do to this day. I don't even want to touch reach multiplayer

[crystal iron]

Campaign was baller tho 🔥

Still a better story than doom eternal.

[knotty ermine]

I know doom eternal had a story but they really shouldn't have.

[crystal iron]

Reach for always be my favorite Halo or among them because it was my entry into the franchise and the ability to do firefight plus be able to grind out currency offline for somebody of a stuck with dial-up throwing up was awesome

[knotty ermine]

and in the end. doom wasn't seen as a game for story besides some minor information needed for context like who the doom slayer is

which apparently is related to the main character of wolfenstein

gameplay wise. doom was better than reach

story. obviously reach but doom wasn't made for a story like halo has

I never touched halo 5 cause I moved to ps4/pc instead of xbone

[crystal iron]

Halo 5 campaign left quite a bit to be desired but the multiplayer was actually a lot of fun I enjoyed playing breakout 1.0 whenever I could get access to Internet at the time kind of fell off Breakout when it hit 2.0 but the war zone was also a lot of fun too for just chilling a better firefight

[crystal iron]

God halo reach custom games and infection were so good. It's really no wonder as to why (again) the halo games are remembered more fondly compared to modern doom. They just don't have anything going for them. One and done games. Nothing more, nothing less.

[knotty ermine]

then halo 4 happened and they apparently didn't understand why people liked infection so they made the infection player stuck with a sword on their arm 🧠 dead

the moment I saw what they did with infection in 4. was probably a gaurantee for me on how they didn't understand halo. especially the major art style change and story retcon

[crystal iron]

I know it's a somewhat unpopular opinion but I actually dont have any grapes with halo 4 I think it's overall a solid game.

[crystal iron]

True. And you may be right. Be even so. A game like reach is soo far rich in its content. There's just soo much more to do besides playing campaign (like eternal..)

[knotty ermine]

I don't know much about doom eternal but did they bring back the map making mode in eternal or only in 2016?

[crystal iron]

Ok I'm going to go out on a limb on this one but just bear with me here. Even halo 4 has a far better story than doom eternal....

343 w

[knotty ermine]

I think it was created by people that wanted to push their own vision in a game like it's their own fan game/ fan fiction and also hired people that didn't like halo so it was a failure from the start

[knotty ermine]

You keep talking about story for a game i'm not even comparing a story for

[crystal iron]

No. Not even mod support 💀

"Doom is eternal"

My brother in christ the game practically has zero official mod tools to work with. It's essentially dead in the waters

[knotty ermine]

a lot of people and probably a massive majority see doom as THE video game. where you can just play the game and go nuts without having to play major cutscenes. we literally see doom as the game that you play and not watch

[knotty ermine]

lol 2016 is better then

2016 had more than eternal. no idea what happened there. that map making mode was amazing

[crystal iron]

Obviously soo. ID software could NOT even for the life of them. Add mod tools in eternal.

[onyx latch]

That was a load even then. It's just Quake with things borrowed from other games.

[knotty ermine]

rip eternal

Wait. by mods do you mean mod support?

[crystal iron]

The game was destined to fall off at that point. No mods or even a map editor. Yeah your game is pretty much OVER.

[knotty ermine]

cause eternal has mods. at least on pc

and for mcc we have mods on pc but idk if console has mcc mods

[crystal iron]

There's no custom mod tools that ID have officially put out for the game. Ppl are just working with what they have left

You can only do so much with eternal for how primitive it is without actual mod tools for the game.

[crystal iron]

I mean that's fair they did introduce some interesting things though like the Thruster packs we have now and the sticky detonators were fun

[knotty ermine]

yeah. and at what cost? art style changes. major story retcons, literally just a fan made game of halo but someone had money to burn

[crystal iron]

There right there actually that's what I want back as a weapon bring back the sticky detonators

[knotty ermine]

thats how I see halo 4-5. someone had a lot of money to make a fan game of halo with their own vision and didn't actually like how original halo was and thought that copying cod was a good idea

[grim citrus]

What retcons? The forerunners?

[knotty ermine]

yes and the armor from the cutscene with chief in the flashback from the intro

thats all I can think of at the top of my head

[grim citrus]

@onyx latch I summon you

[knotty ermine]

but thats still massive for a change

[onyx latch]

What hi

Oh god not this again

[grim citrus]

😂😂😂

[crystal iron]

WB

[onyx latch]

Every time I think we're done with thinking Forerunners were a retcon someone pulls me back in

[grim citrus]

We can suffer together

[crystal iron]

🍿

[onyx latch]

This is all just boilerplate complaints I've seen a hundred times before by people who had more pull than random name followed by numbers.

[grim citrus]

I’m glad there were art style changes. The Chief in the bungie games looked like an action figure

[onyx latch]

Some people just like playing with their dolls.

[grim citrus]

There’s no way that looked like a threat

[knotty ermine]

I wasn't even disagreeing with the choice of changing something but making ... this. halo infinite made a better design choice

[grim citrus]

Now the halo 4 Chief? Stand back

[knotty ermine]

they even had that armor design before but they stuck to whatever that crap was

[grim citrus]

I dislike the design choice of infinite

[knotty ermine]

lol! fanboys spotted

[onyx latch]

I liked GEN2 tbh. I do wish they stuck with the whole light/medium/heavy designs because it offered a lot of variability to Spartan roles.

[grim citrus]

4-5 had better armour and set pieces than infinite

[onyx latch]

... Is that supposed to be an insult, or are you just dense?

Boo, get better material.

[grim citrus]

It was only a matter of time.

[onyx latch]

He did it earlier too.

[crystal iron]

I don't think I've seen too many Fanboys here in the Halo Community they seem to be pretty open to the positives and the negatives of their game unlike games like Destiny 2 which actually did for a long time suffer from fan boys and led to the game being in the shape it's in from complacency by just swallowing whatever the developers handed them

[onyx latch]

Pan boys

🍳 👦

[crystal iron]

I fixed it

[grim citrus]

Most don’t

There are alot of halo fans that think the OT is perfection with little to no flaws

And will deny any objective claims to them

[onyx latch]

Most of them dipped after Halo 3 and moved on to things like CoD but still cling to 3.

If it's not 3, it's Reach.

[grim citrus]

Xbox > Xbox 360 > PS4 guys

[analog salmon]

GameCube > Everything

[onyx latch]

Gamecube is a pretty solid system.

[crystal iron]

For me it was Super Nintendo and then finally got to go to 360 lol

[onyx latch]

Literally, I feel like it'd be a viable weapon.

[grim citrus]

The handle allows maximum blunt force trauma for intruders

[crystal iron]

Also agree the GameCube had solid games I never actually played on one but I got to eventually play some of the games for it on Wii with the backwards compatibility

[onyx latch]

The real weapon all home invaders fear is a grown man in his birthday suit screaming at them like a barbarian warrior brandishing a gamecube.

[grim citrus]

Prime series, Melee, Sunshine,
Star Fox Adventures, Pikmin, Double dash

[onyx latch]

Shadow the Hedgehog :3

[crystal iron]

Star Fox assault one of my first Shooters the one before that being Star Wars dark Forces

[onyx latch]

AKA the only Sonic game little Trenchbird used to have for years

[grim citrus]

I actually never played it

And I played every sonic game

[onyx latch]

I played it again recently

It was bad

[grim citrus]

Sonic 06 bad?

[onyx latch]

Oh, not that bad

More like what constitutes edgy for E(10+)

[crystal iron]

No it wasn't that bad as 06

[grim citrus]

Sonic 06 had a great story… but man the mechanics

[onyx latch]

Like, it's cringe as hell

[grim citrus]

The speed levels

🤢

[crystal iron]

We should probably move up to General though we're going to keep talking about other games

[grim citrus]

You right

That guy that called me a fanboy left

Or did he call trench a fanboy

[crystal iron]

I thought it was directed at both of you

[onyx latch]

It was both

It was plural

[sinful frigate]

Mission “The Sequence” BUG
There are no panel to let me activate the cutscene inside the building. There are also no enemies defending the building and the gate is open. What can I do to fix it? I tried to restart the mission, load saves, and reboot my Xbox and it stayed the same. Thanks everyone 🙇🏻‍♀️

[devout kite]

I would open a ticket with support

[crystal iron]

a guy online says he got it to fix by fast traveling see if that works you might have to resume the mission after doing so

other wise yeah support ticket

[dreamy cosmos]

343, it would be cool to create nameplates that can be unlocked by racking up accolades. Like for example. If you get 50 bull trues you unlock a nameplate specifically designed for that challenge. Get 100, unlock another until you get like 500 or so. Do that for each accolade. I think that would add some more customization and gives people challenges to want to play the game more. What does the community think?

[white birch]

If they did it for lifetime weapon use I'd be down
Nameplates for how many kills you get with a weapon

[hollow bobcat]

Imagine if you can customize every specific color on your Spartan based on what you unlocked via the battle pass and bundles. I can imagine the crazy amount of colors people would choose.

[devout kite]

Ik we’re getting weapon drills mastery nameplates

[hollow bobcat]

What's a weapon that you were using in Halo Infinite that you thought was absolutely terrible at first, but you began to realize how good it was?

Mine would have to be the Bandit. I didn't like how it didn't have a scope and it was a little slow. However, with a bunch of practice and usage out of it, I started to realize it can kill a lot faster than I thought it could.

[white birch]

Distuptor. Honestly I miss the DOT

[hollow bobcat]

At closer ranges, the disruptor is like the pistol on steroids. Although, It's more beneficial for popping shields if you have a second weapon for headshots.

[stoic canopy]

The Bulldog

It's less effective 1v1 than before but it's more effective vs. multiple targets and it doesn't negate the Sword like older versions did at times

Though I hope the SAW comes back at some point

It was nice to have a Power Weapon that wasn't either explosive or precision (close or long range)

Also BRRRRRRRRAAAAPPPPPPTTTTT'ing a team was fun AF

[celest heron]

idk, maybe the commando, but it was harder to aim with it on the xb1 compared to the series x.

[onyx latch]

On what grounds?

[crystal iron]

I think they should add mode objective training to the tutorial

I know it probably won't be added to this game but next Halo game it would probably be a good idea

[celest mauve]

Why play the obj when you can get kills

[crystal iron]

You're right it doesn't matter if you lose the game as long as your KD ratio looks good (sarcasm)

[celest mauve]

Getting kills is way more important than playing obj

For one everyone else does the same and two if you can’t win your gunfights what makes you think you can hold a zone or cap a flag

When you start going for kills you can make opportunities for your bot teammates to push in and cap for you

If you have good teammates then the 3 of you can stomp the other team while the last one can safely cap

[crystal iron]

I repeat the above

[celest mauve]

You can be negative kd and still be useful

Just see what your teammates are doing and don’t try to fill a role you can’t do

If you’re not getting kills stop trying to pick fights and go on obj

[crystal iron]

You're preaching to the choir

[celest mauve]

Adding an objective tutorial wouldn’t help

Tbh I only started playing a couple days ago and the tutorial stuff isn’t very clear to find

But in regards to teaching people about how to be effective in the team during a game of ctf is not something you teach, it’s something players learn

[grim citrus]

Constantly rushing to the obj can be counterproductive on your victory.

[celest mauve]

That’s why you don’t feed kills and work around your team

If they push one way you go with them unless you can spot a flank route

[crystal iron]

Second highest score kills and most time on the objective again. I mean I guess I could have got two more kills so I could outrank the team.
That's got to be it it, can't be the fact that the whole team should be working around the objective efficiently

When this happens multiple times whenever it's usually a good sign to get off and go play something else just means it's not the night

[signal cairn]

I don’t know how forge works, how do I play the Nacht Der Untoten game everybody is playing?

[tepid latch]

have a check in the custom browser first to see if anyones playing! otherwise if you go to custom game and search up the map and mode you should be able to load it all from there

[signal cairn]

How do I search modes?

[signal cairn]

I’m on Xbox if that makes a difference

[tepid latch]

they should be the same. but lemme open my game 1 sec

[tepid latch]

Okay so in Custom game go to mode editor click on the mode and you'll get a menu come up on the left

[signal cairn]

I think I’ve figured it out? I went to the community tab instead of the multiplayer tab and i believe I’ve found it

[tepid latch]

Yeah! custom game is also on the main menu between academy and forge

[signal cairn]

It doesn’t seem to be working… there’s no points and i can’t buy anything

[tepid latch]

Are you using this map/mode?
https://www.halowaypoint.com/halo-infinite/ugc/maps/42015e3a-e897-4e61-8a8d-3c402c4b9a9f

https://www.halowaypoint.com/halo-infinite/ugc/modes/65ab3cb8-9335-4a8e-abc3-d0029a9a0b89

you can bookmark them on the site and they should show up in ur bookmarked maps and modes in Infinite

[signal cairn]

Ah yes, i had the wrong mode with the map. Someone else had a similar one and i picked wrong

[neon vapor]

There’s also one by The Forge Falcons which is really made well

It’s got most of the features from the classic one

[tawny crow]

Anyone else think the pre rendered cutscenes from 5 look a lot better than Infinite?
5's look blur level at times whereas Infinite's opening cutscene looks weirdly plasticy

Really wish I could send images to show what I mean

[twin crag]

I think pre-rendered cutscenes always look better

simply for the fact that they are specially curated and developed instead of just in-game scripts

[smoky wave]

Funny because it is the same studio who did both cinematics

[tawny crow]

yeah that's why I'm so confused. Axis can clearly do stuff that looks almost blur level but Infinite's opening looked really weird and almost unofficial in comparison to the pre rendered cutscenes in 5 & 4

I know it's a different studio but I'd say even halo 4's pre-rendered stuff looks better than the one in infinite and that came out over 10 years ago

[lean prism]

Hello

[dense flower]

@dreamy crypt

[faint pilot]

Okay, someone needs to fix the bots spawnkilling during intro. I hop on because I'm bored, and the next thing I know, all four of us get wiped with a rocket and none of us can see.

[celest heron]

just makes the game more interesting

[coarse dagger]

Make sure and file a support ticket about it

[sullen kiln]

Please refer to the Halo Support site for additional information and/or to submit a ticket concerning any issues you may be experiencing.

https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[faint pilot]

bet. thanks iratus

nvm they already know

[devout kite]

I hate it when teammates steal your flag cap

[thin elm]

same unless their flag pull is slow af

[celest heron]

why hasn't 343 banned players when they do that?

[grim citrus]

For anyone interested:

Seeing as the standards of storytelling in shooters has increased since the days of Doom and Wolfenstein; would CE-3 be universally considered great storytelling like how it was 20 years ago if the OT was released in 2023?

[faint pilot]

CE-3?

[crystal iron]

The old games were bad actually™

[thin elm]

todays standards? maybe h2

purely on story

[grim citrus]

What about CE and 3?

[thin elm]

tbh CE wud be rated pretty gud

and h3 storywise wud be just ok

[grim citrus]

You don’t think a negative would be the context of the characters not being explored?

Like for example, destiny 1 got flack for not properly giving us a proper story 10 years ago to the point that they were forced to be more thorough with their story.

Wouldn’t that be the case with CE?

[thin elm]

it def wud be a criticism no doubtt

but i think the forerunners

+flood intrigue wud earn pretty gud

[hollow bobcat]

Unless there is a setting for this, I wonder if it's possible to have a custom lobby replace human players with bots (and the bots are replaced when someone joins in).

I know this happens in matchmaking, but I'm unsure if it's something that can be done in customs.

[crystal iron]

gears had that system the bot wasn't as good as a human player but it was something

[alpine bane]

Please, could we put a penalty on player leaving ?

It just kill some games

[hollow bobcat]

I'd rather someone leaves over going AFK

[celest heron]

they get temp banned if they leave enough games

[slim flint]

if they crack down on it any more, they should make it so that you don’t get punished for leaving if you’re the only one left on your team

[alpine bane]

I believe the first one should be punished

often times it's the beginning of problem

[celest heron]

that's already in place

[slim flint]

first one should be punished more but the second one should still be punished

[celest heron]

you don't get punished in social if half your team quits

[slim flint]

you don’t?

[celest heron]

no

[slim flint]

cool I didn’t know that

[serene furnace]

That's not a retcon

It was never established that he always wore the Halo 4 armor, they just used that one because the studio that made the intro didn't have time to make more models

[red spindle]

remove CSR from infection matchmaking.

i will post this everyday until it is removed 😤

[coarse dagger]

That would be spamming, please don't

It also won't help

Leave constructive feedback if you want to see changes made

[molten gate]

Has anyone found a match in MCC competitive matchmaking recently? Every week, I wait in a lobby, trying to find a match to attempt the Sweat Equity challenge, but I haven’t found one once. Wondering if it’s just me.

[onyx latch]

It's the same reason the Sangheili utilize their Storm Class harnesses and whatnot.

[stuck wagon]

I agree. Seeing it more and more lately.

[glacial tartan]

What rank / playlist? You should find games in Halo 3 TS / doubles or CE doubles

[midnight tree]

is stockpile back in BTB rotation? got it twice this week

[tepid latch]

must be then

20 more lvls on the BP for this season

[molten gate]

I try all. How long does it usually take to connect for you?

[quasi finch]

I just got in a game and some dude got a tank

It was fiesta

But I didn’t know there were tanks in fiesta

[empty rapids]

well destiny's story still sucks

[tepid latch]

Yuh Fiesta is random weapons and vehicles wherever vehicles can spawn ✌️ good fun when playing on launchsite and getting a wasp

Finally experienced hell, but yo, can there be some sorta death thing to stop enemies from camping the players spawn in Megapolis? just did a join in progress where 3 players on my team were gone cuz the enemy team were just camping both spawns ://

also weren't capping flags, just farming kills

[quasi finch]

I’m just annoyed cause we would’ve destroyed them if they didn’t have that tank

[tepid latch]

Yeah but such is fiesta lol, thats like "we woulda destroyed them had they not all had rockets

[quasi finch]

No not weapons

I dont care what weapons I get as long as it’s not ravaged

Just the tank

It took 9 rockets to blow it up

Not to mention the plenty of random weapons we used

[tepid latch]

im just saying its a random game, there's no balance whatsoever lol, i understand that frustration tho :p

[hollow bobcat]

I found there are three kinds of players in husky raid; People who hide in their spawns, people who spawn camp in the enemy spawn, and objective players who get no support.

Also, is it just me, or did this server get updated with icons indicating your input? I see mice and controllers.

[tepid latch]

literally just played a game where 3 players left the enemy team and a dude on my team was saying "dont cap" "kill him for xp" ://

[tepid latch]

Yeah It did, i think recently i noticed it too!

[hollow bobcat]

Great, now people are going to avoid me because they're going to think I'm a hacker.

[tepid latch]

Lmao people who think like that are too close minded, MKB doesnt always mean hacking nor does it mean a pc player

[quasi finch]

Lol yeah

[crystal iron]

Sooo not sure when mods are coming to console for Starfeild but I have a solid guess that I'll be able to play using the Master Chiefs armor before Halo infinite gets that armor as a core.

Also I made a Pelican in Starfeild. I'ma try and make a mini UNSC Infiniti

[craggy wadi]

there should be a 1 minute afk timer built into game and a warning at 45 seconds for ranked and social matches.

[heady moss]

jeebs216 -- add me for halo infinite ranked, i play erratically though and usually gotta hop off for 15-20 mins at a time sometimes, i just got plat 2, i was diamond 6 in season 1 but stopped playing for like 15 months lol but i'm gonna try to play halo infinite a lot more now

[lime robin]

Go to the lfg channels

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[heady moss]

yeah sorry, so much stuff to read, technically still discussing halo though lol but i will next time

[serene badger]

I am pretty sure we had this in multiplayer matches in 2 or 3 or.... 🥴
🤔 I dont remember, but I recall playing multiplayer in previous games where the time left was announced.

If I could, I would take a community poll on adding this to Infinite Multiplayer.

[bold mauve]

good god the desync is terrible on infinite today

[loud brook]

Anyone starting to get sick and tired of shop prices and values like damm look at the price of rockeye and warning signs vs the value of them

[smoky wave]

No

[crystal iron]

It's pretty simple you just don't buy them

[celest heron]

I'd be more upset if I wanted to buy them, but the price was too much.

[dark wing]

whens the next infinite event after Contamination?

[uneven bison]

I don’t think there’s a schedule, I can check waypoint and such, but maybe another Tenrai event?

They’ve being doing “tier 2” stuff of previous events so probably another one of those

[celest heron]

September 19 - October 3 - Tenrai III event - 10 tier free pass

[grim citrus]

Really? I thought you had to buy them to enjoy the game

[crystal iron]

There actually are people that think like that

[grim citrus]

How far gamers have fallen

Remember the days when you can earn armour that you wanted by simply playing?

[tulip tusk]

i remember the days my house didnt even have a computer it was pretty cool

[celest heron]

some young people will never know unless they diversify their gaming.

[crystal iron]

I'm personally able to make a solid enough look usually with whatever the game provides through gameplay or in Infinite's case the events and battle passes

[smoky wave]

I simply see the store, there is something I like and can buy it? I'll buy it, if not then I don't care

It's also like a no big deal when they will add it in the armory to buy it for the next season anyways sooooo

It's not a big deal, events/twitch and battle pass gives cool stuff too

[uneven bison]

I wait for bundles usually

I would like to buy individual items but I don’t mind buying bundles

[crystal iron]

For me the bundles usually don't contain a combination of what I'm looking for and I just want one item out of a bundle so it's usually a debate on if I think that one item is worth it

[ripe charm]

Mm yes halo

[hushed dagger]

i want to revive halo

im gonna try do a jynxi for halo

[radiant sundial]

its not dead???

[hushed dagger]

should have 200k concurrent

halo 3 and reach numbers were on a different level

[kind palm]

imagine going to adopt a hunter and you have to get two because they're a bonded pair

[red spindle]

remove CSR from infection matchmaking 😤

[eternal lion]

There is no CSR in social

[crystal iron]

Guess that means we need to put it in Social then 🙃

[grim citrus]

The 360 mixed with xbox live lead that generation. Those numbers were expected.

Not to mention the competition wasn’t as big as it is now.

[crystal iron]

Arena shooters were also at a better place then. Now the hype is around Battle Royale and the RNG of what you'll find.

[red spindle]

remove MMR from social 😤

[smoky wave]

Nah

[round forge]

I'd forgotten how much H4 MP sucked.

[grim citrus]

H4 mp is great

Just needed a proper ranking system

[tulip tusk]

h4 multi looks revolting but especially h2a multi

[round forge]

What about the the stupid magnetic punches or the extremely unbalanced weapons or the overpowered armour abilities they added or any number of other issues the game has. There was a very big reason for the outcry from the Bungie fans about H4 when it released.

[grim citrus]

Never heard any of those complaints at the time of its release

[round forge]

I just had a match were I could not get a single kill because I spent the entire match being spawn killed before I could even move, over and over and over.

[grim citrus]

Alot of the outcry were people that couldn’t get over the fact that bungie wasn’t making halo anymore

Armor abilities were not over powered. They function the way they were intended, which were to upset the balance and flow of the game for a limited time.

[crystal iron]

Looking at what modern bungie has done with Destiny I think we should be thankful for that

[round forge]

Agree to dissagree.

[grim citrus]

Cool.

[grim citrus]

People don’t realize that halo was going to be how it is now regardless on whether bungie or 343 was making it

They wanted sprint in halo since 2

[crystal iron]

Halo 4 brought for a lot of interesting things to the table some good some bad the Saw was a neat introduction then there's the sticky detonators which were fun

[grim citrus]

One thing I didn’t like from 4 was the sound of the BR and pistol

[crystal iron]

I never much cared for the hardlight shield but I knew some people that got some mileage out of it

[grim citrus]

Everything else was a welcome addition

[crystal iron]

That's fair once you get used to a sound it can be off putting

[grim citrus]

It was too high pitched for me and lacked the punch the AR had

Didn’t have a good contrast compared to the covie weapons

[young glen]

The damage boost was crazy. It felt awesome to use, but terrible to be the victim of someone using it.
I legit can't remember if Halo 4 launched with a 'classic' mode, but I would've liked to try it. Going from Halo 3, it was a relatively smooth experience online for the time.

[grim citrus]

Legendary slayer

[crystal iron]

I forgot about the damage boost it's been a minute since I've played the older halos

[grim citrus]

Damage boost should’ve been more utilized in mp. Using the same power ups, when there’s so many options is a crime

[crystal iron]

Yeah you had a bunch of different ones the orbital drop was also interesting

[grim citrus]

Those are things that should be welcomed in games

Adds variety to games

Imagine playing the same game modes and style of play for 20 years

[crystal iron]

One thing I got to give 343 is they are trying different things each halo seeing what works.

[grim citrus]

I always found it comical that games like 2K, Madden, FIFA, COD gets criticized from pumping out the same game with every entry, but the moment halo tries something new, the same people that criticize those games will criticize halo from trying something new

[celest heron]

it gets criticized cause it's not good, not because it's new

[grim citrus]

Yeah.. no

Halo 2 was criticized for not having a great campaign

Until halo 3 came out

[crystal iron]

Probably an unpopular opinion but I really don't want them to recreate Halo 3 since we already have Halo 3 in mcc.

And even after it came to PC it's really hasn't taken anything away from the new PowerHouse Fps

[grim citrus]

I want them too, so all of the halo 3 was the best players can migrate and stay on that game

[crystal iron]

I mean it's already here they can migrate right now and never come off

[grim citrus]

Not to those guys

They nitpick everything about the MCC version of halo 3 like it’s a completely different game

[hollow bobcat]

I mainly want Halo 3 anniversary for the sake of the awesome redesign of Lord Hood from H2A.

[crystal iron]

Then they probably won't be happy with a recreation of Halo 3 simply because it would be done by 343

[grim citrus]

Absolutely. Without question

Like the creative director could be behind the scenes on making sure everything is right for halo 3, but because it was made by 343, it would be hated

[crystal iron]

It would be funny if they could talk modern bungie into making it I can just see the cash shop now one that puts infinites to shame XD

What's that you want a new PvP map we can't help there you there but we got six new armor sets you can buy!

[hollow bobcat]

My big question is if 343 ever relinquished creative control of Halo for another sequel or possibly the dreaded reboot theory, who would they actually take over?

Should it be a new studio entirely or perhaps a very popular development team in existence right now?

[grim citrus]

If I worked for 343, I would leave to another studio because of the fans

[crystal iron]

I mean the majority of your popular development teams have pretty much been reduced to making quick buck games

It would probably be better to look at AA Studio

Indie developers and AA's have been doing good work, while AAA's have been falling short

[fallen flame]

The reboot thing is fake

[smoky wave]

But but but the youtuber told me

[white birch]

The sentence is believing a YouTuber out of hand!
The punishment; 10 years in the Salt Mines!
TO TWITTER WITH THEM!

[crystal iron]

The Shocker when you find out only a handful of YouTubers for a game are usually worth listening to for info.

[grim citrus]

The numbers of YouTubers that I listen to in regards of games have shrunk exponentially

A lot of them have horrible takes

[crystal iron]

I laughed so hard when 1 I used to watch for Destiny 2 turned out to be right all these years later after people get dunking on him.

[grim citrus]

I think people should up their own opinions on games instead of following what others or the herd says

[crystal iron]

They really should it's important to take a person's opinion with of a grain of salt and come to your own on if it adds up.

[grim citrus]

Like there are people that will say X game is bad in almost every live or video, but will continue to play it

We give content creators too much power on deciding what’s good or not

[crystal iron]

I mean that's true in a lot of aspects of life

I'm still figuring out who's worth listening to from Halo at this point.
I'm mostly pay attention to Optic since coming back I like a few of APG's viewpoints and agree with them.

[grim citrus]

Installation00 probably the only halo content creators I listen to

I can’t listen to pros because majority of them complain

[white birch]

Not even just for video games Id say. But other stuff too.

Thinking for yourself seems to be rather overrated at the moment.

[white birch]

Halo Canon was really good, but his take on the Halo show caused the fanbase to lash out at him and it finally broke his spirit.
So he called it off for mental health reasons, which I dont blame him about.

The rest of the Halo Youtubers out there are just...pros, really, or variations of pros. They do the usual YouTuber stuff.

I00s probably the only one who actively looked into the lore beyond the surface.

[uneven bison]

What was his take? I don’t follow stuff like that.

I don’t like the show but I’m not going to get so angry at someone who did that they quit

[white birch]

That the show wasnt the series-ending mind-breaking soul-tearing pile of flaming trash hurled at us by uncaring laughing gods to punish our already weakened bodies for daring to think 343 could do anything right.

And that it was, in fact, just a TV show.

[uneven bison]

…. That’s a good take

[white birch]

He watched it because it was there, called out interesting easter eggs and references to the main canon, put up some thoughts. Basically just did a live review.

But since he wasn't trashing it, people jumped on him hard.

[uneven bison]

That’s ridiculous

[white birch]

That was my thoughts too.

TBH that whole time period was a perfect storm of stuff going badly.

[uneven bison]

There’s a lot of stuff I don’t like but I don’t get so worked up over it that I bully a YouTuber off a platform

[white birch]

But even then I think the fandom took it way too far.
Then again, like was stated earlier; lot of people weren't making their own call, they heard their favorite YouTuber say "TV SHOW BAD!" and parroted it without a second thought.

I doubt it was entirely their fault, I think he had other stuff going on at the time, but I know for sure it did NOT help.

In truth I cant even blame him.

[uneven bison]

It’s probably for the best, it’s unfortunate that some fans get super toxic about stuff

[white birch]

It sounds like hes doing better. He probably wont come back to YouTube but his mental health is stable again.
Thats all we can hope for.

[uneven bison]

Yeah that’s a shame. I did enjoy his content, but it’s more important that he focuses on himself.

[crystal iron]

That's I should watch the TV show I can actually get Paramount Plus for free through my work just never signed up

[uneven bison]

I didn’t feel an obligation to watch it, I just did. I disliked it not because of some silly “Chief took off his helmet raahhh” reason, I just thought that it did some unnecessary stuff and just overall wasn’t a great adaptation

[white birch]

It could have been a lot better, for sure. My complaints are about missed oppertunities to expand the existing lore.

Why remake the universe when there's huge sections of the canon that aren't explored?

[uneven bison]

I will say, the portrayal of the halo ring in the dream sequence was phenomenal

[white birch]

So was the Spartans combat.

[uneven bison]

Captured the feeling of a halo ring perfectly

[crystal iron]

I'm just generally curious and want to draw my own opinion since I'm getting back into Halo more cuz like I remember hearing the Han Solo movie for Star Wars was bad for example and I actually enjoyed it

[white birch]

People hated on Rouge One when it came out.
Same with Rebels.
And now, here we are.

Make your own call.

[uneven bison]

Solo wasn’t bad per se I just think people were a little tired of Star Wars at that point, and didn’t like the marvel-ish feel of it

[crystal iron]

At the time I remember hearing a lot of this isn't what we asked for

People were wanting movies on other characters

[pallid halo]

What maps are in Ranked Team Snipers on Halo Infinite?

Also, will the birthday bash kill effect come back to claim for those who missed it?

[crystal iron]

If there's a playlist for it you should be able to select Maps over top of boosts and be able to scroll through them

[full warren]

I do not know what is wrong but literally do not find games anymore, has the population died finally in the EU lol

[crystal iron]

Couldn't tell you according to player IO we should still be seeing around 24,000 in the last hour across all platforms

[grim citrus]

People hated episode 3 when it came out

[crystal iron]

The prequels got a lot of hate and then we got the third trilogy lol

[grim citrus]

People hate change, but want change

Changeception

[grim citrus]

Prequels got alot of hate for no reason. A lot of what those episodes did gave us a lot of great stories

And characters

[crystal iron]

Oh I agree I'm a fan of the Republic era

[full warren]

Literally waited 6 mins for a btb lol

because i gave up waiting for team slayer after 6 mins

[grim citrus]

Like people have their issues with h4 and h5, but they gave us great characters and story arcs

And great callbacks

[full warren]

Did halo 5 progresss the story at all? is the only halo I did not play

[crystal iron]

It wasn't really the direction I think we wanted and just didn't come across very well

Most Halos I usually would play through the campaign a couple times H5 I was left with no desire to play It again really

The multiplayer was great but I really should have invested more of my time into H5 pvp instead of Destiny

[eternal lion]

a lot yes

[neon vapor]

I kinda felt like halo 5 could’ve been wiped and not make a huge difference in terms of how it affects the games.

Maybe lore wise it’ll affect a lot

[onyx latch]

It would affect a huge amount of the status quo it shifted.

For the worse, I'd say.

As its upset was actually a pretty damn fresh one.

And in terms of games, well

It heavily influenced the gameplay styles of Halo going forward, and is still a solid chunk of Infinite's foundation for most movement mechanics

So by that metric it's also not easily wiped away.

[crystal iron]

Now that I've played infinite pve and found its story solid I probably should go back and play fives and see how I feel about it now

[eternal lion]

If you find Infinite's story solid, 5 can only be good lol

[crystal iron]

At the time I just remember not caring for it which ties into what I said about I think it just wasn't what we were expecting necessarily

[full warren]

I watched like a synopsis on youtube thats about it as I stopped playing the game at friends houses on their xbobx since i never owned a xbox but I atleast tried to keep to up date with the campigns

[grim citrus]

Which synopsis did you read? A lot of them are wrong.

[grim citrus]

What was the direction that you wanted?

[crystal iron]

I just really wasn't expecting to be playing somebody besides chief on a main title and didn't see Cortana being the bad guy

[onyx latch]

2 is a joke, apparently.

[grim citrus]

I mean, they were foreshadowing a major change in Cortana’s character since 2

We seen cortana becoming less of herself and more Catherine in 4

Not to mention that her creator is considered evil and psychotic in the eyes of a lot of people

[crystal iron]

Yeah and that's something an older me can get

[grim citrus]

In a lot of ways, Cortana’s arc mirrors a lot of anakin/Vader’s arc

[full warren]

which one is the one she died to save chief?

was that the end of halo 4? I thought that should been the end for cortana lol

[grim citrus]

1. Both was the key on saving the galaxy
2. Both were used and manipulated
3. Both “died” and was resurrected into something else

[full warren]

whatever halo 5 bad cortana just seems weird and forced lol

[grim citrus]

They would’ve been a horrible end to cortana

[full warren]

she sacrifice herself using rampancy seem like a perfect end without her becomming a bad guy

[crystal iron]

I think that's what younger me drew the conclusion too and older me is like no she would survive and the rampancy definitely could lead to her becoming what she did

[grim citrus]

We just started to get character development from cortana in 4… and you want to kill her off?

She’s arguably one the most compelling characters in the universe

[crystal iron]

We as humans have a phrase called young and dumb for a reason lol

[onyx latch]

5's literally the reason I stopped disliking her, lmao

[grim citrus]

Facts

[onyx latch]

I was neutral after 4, 5 was the push to actually liking the character.

Now I'm back to neutral because of infinite's unsatisfying end to her.

[grim citrus]

She actually became a character with a personality and a backstory

But people wanted her dead for good… like what?

[crystal iron]

I didn't want her dead I just thought she had died.

And of course younger me is like no wait she's one of the good guys we're supposed to find a way to help her

[grim citrus]

That means 343 did their job right

[crystal iron]

An older me appreciates a good twist and antihero/ anti-villain stuff more

[grim citrus]

There’s a saying that goes like “as kids we idolize our heroes, but as adults we can understand why people become villains”

5’s ending when Chief calls her out on her hypocrisy is cinema gold

[onyx latch]

The game's practically screaming at you that Cortana's going full 'Ends justify the means' pretty early, tbh. It's practically yammering in your face and biting your nose to get your attention. It's everything but subtle.

... Somehow people missed that.

In favor of... Thinking it was the flood again? I guess?

[grim citrus]

Nobody cares about the truth when the lies are more interesting

[onyx latch]

Either way, it's more proof to me that most Halo fans have the media comprehension of a frog. Which sucks for frogs, because frogs are really cool and cute.

[grim citrus]

People convinced themselves the game didn’t make sense before they actually played it

[onyx latch]

On the one hand

I actually do like explaining through the story.

But on the other, I really wish I didn't have to.

[grim citrus]

I find it to be deliberate

The way they kept hiding vital information from the player purposely

[onyx latch]

Sometimes, a hammer's kind of needed. I get some of the negative attitude towards it because it can be hard to catch for some people, even if people who pay close attention can get it readily from the information it offers.

[grim citrus]

Live and learn. I just would’ve never imagine people will complain for a halo game to have “halo lore”

Someone actually said here “why do I have to play Spartan ops, to know what’s going on in the story”

And they be the same person to say “why do I have to read books to understand the story”

[north stag]

Just discovered the “creepy Cortana” glitch in Halo 2 😭

[signal ivy]

CE creepy cortana glitch better

[north stag]

GOOD LORD

[hollow bobcat]

Still hot.

[crystal iron]

Idk if you’re talking about me, but if you are I didn’t say that.

I said Halo 5 could’ve benefited from a recap or summation of SpOps for the vast majority of players going into the game who didn’t finish the mode.

I made the comparison to Devil May Cry 5 which has a similar recap as an option to catch up.

[grim citrus]

I’m not.

[crystal iron]

That’s cool, same page then 👍

[grim citrus]

DMC5 had a recap option?

Why am I not remembering this?

[crystal iron]

Yeah it shows up on the main menu on a first playthrough

‘History of DMC’

[grim citrus]

Hmm

I mean in that regard, it makes sense

DMC4 came out 09? Iirc

Halo 4 came out 3 years before 5

[crystal iron]

Guys. Ima be straight up honest imo

Halo4 sucks.

Ikik very controversial opinion atm. But, I couldn't help but just let it out

[tepid latch]

lord of nuts really lettin it out 😂

[crystal iron]

These new 343 devs have ruined halo

[tepid latch]

ooft, thats a hot take

[crystal iron]

Yeah
It is

Halo reach better

[tepid latch]

🤓