#halo-discussion

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river minnow
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fyi if it hasnt been stated elsewhere already

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slow walrus
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so much for 3 month seasons

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why did they even promise that when they knew it wouldn't end up happening

river minnow
slow walrus
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check the pin

river minnow
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an extra 2 weeks is nothing

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weve just come from whatever the hell season 1 and 2 was, im happy if its only 3.5 months

smoky wave
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Same lenght as this season right

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Still is better than 6 months so I'll take it

deep fjord
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They never said every season would be 3 months iirc, they just gave the 3-4 month timescale

crystal iron
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Alright, Wondering to get to eat, not sure yet

coarse dagger
coarse dagger
devout kite
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That’s a shame

river minnow
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that is.. damn

one of the things I was most looking forward to this season were the cutscenes

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I hope we get at least one cutscene to show what happens between when we last saw iratus and the start of the infection

slow walrus
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As with Hazmat Haven, this bundle will package together three individual bundles at a discount, along with a special Mythic Effect Set and the Dragonborn Noble shoulders for getting it all together. Stay tuned for more details next month!

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can't believe they're locking this behind a $50 paywall

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may as well just buy a full game at that price

river minnow
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it's like 35

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which is still huge but

slow walrus
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you can't buy the exact amount of credits

river minnow
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it's 3400, you can buy 3500

latent basalt
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thank god i only buy the passes

shadow turret
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I'm a little annoyed, bc there's a bunch of bundles I want, but for all of them, its about 100 CAD (Including the S4 BP too)

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I'm gonna attempt to get a gift card, but I shall see

sterile meadow
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I have a weird bug, only console players are going to possibly know what I'm talking about, but does anyone notice the impulse triggers stop working in halo infinite?

rugged quartz
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Not getting the story progression in season 4 is really :/

sterile meadow
rugged quartz
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So is it really going to be like story started but not finished again? Halo 4, escalations, halo 5, halo infinite campaign..

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Blogs aren't an effective substitute for seasonal narrative content.

sterile meadow
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Yeah

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Okay there is this weird bug that's bothering me, it's not very important it's just bothering me how something like this happens and I'm not crazy, but every player death you controller trigger vibration stops working and you fix it by pausing.

full warren
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Fragmentation BTB heaviers is just a joke

sterile meadow
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How does something like this break this way?

full warren
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so one sided its not even funny, and still no weapons to kill a tank, I did not even find the skewer all game

sterile meadow
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If you have xbox, fire your gun and die, then fire again observe no trigger vibration, pause unpause then you can fire gun and see it fixes it.

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Like you fix the triggers by pausing the game lol.

full warren
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The game is doing you a favour lol who turns on vibration in a shooter....

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you just asking to have your accuracy reduced

sterile meadow
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Regular vibration works it's just those secondary trigger vibrators that xbox controllers have that stop working unless you pause menu, it's like tied to player death and the pause menu.

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Anyone could try this right now so you can see I'm not making this up lol

full warren
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This game literally did not allow you to play if you didn't have us keyboard layout lol it crashed the game until I found it and they fixed it there are tons of bugs

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and if its not game breaking I doubt its on their radar for now

crystal iron
slow walrus
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after delaying Infection for this long so it could tie into the multiplayer narrative, I do think it would be very funny if they ship the update without any cutscenes

crystal iron
smoky wave
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^

knotty haven
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It feels bad to forego the cutscences, bro....Blogs are boring,

smoky wave
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Idk where is this reasoning comes but it was mostly because it wasn't ready and well, they just put it as narative until it's ready

crystal iron
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But the plus side is if things are delayed to line up with narrative
Events well that roadblock is gone now

livid fable
crystal iron
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I'm just hoping this Will allow the team to bring us Cross Core armor pieces, so I can drop the Carter Shoulders and Emile's Shotgun wrist Bracer on my MK7... To really have the Drippiest of Drips

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In just ready for the Griffball to comeback, so many awesome gamemodes can be made to with forge

devout kite
crystal iron
knotty haven
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343 underwent massive laidoffs. Their hiring is freezes and employees just leave every without new members coming in. Also they don't have enough budget because MS don't care about them😔

crystal iron
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But hopefully this means we will get things like cross core Armor and Forge AI sooner

ruby knoll
crystal iron
devout kite
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I hate how 343 tied the second effect set behind a bundle

slow walrus
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I wonder what'll happen to those items when S4 ends

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for 343's sake I doubt that they'll still force you to buy the super bundle from the customisation menu

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worst case scenario is that they become unobtainable forever

devout kite
crystal iron
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Well Twitter is. A Bag of mixed nuts when it comes to the Narrative events news.

But I do understand both sides of it.

Yes the team was gutted, resources are limited and they do have to focus on priority stuff.

However on the other hand for those who enjoy story Narrative and lore aspects it does feel pretty messed up to have yet another story aspects left unfinished.

I think overall it's rough right now at 343, but hopefully these are just growing pains and somehow Xbox/ Microsoft finds a way to Really Hit 343 with the Largest amount of resource support.

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Just I have also noticed when Microsoft or Xbox Executives or those at that level, speak in terms of Halo and it's future with Xbox, they seem very careful to not say Halo Infinite, it's always the future of Halo, but rarely if at all the future of Halo Infinite.

Just something I have noticed

foggy torrent
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Sup Halo ninjas, daily reminder that 343 deserves a bigups for removing more content! 343 is doing a good job making this game experience reach the broader audience by ensuring the game dies, big ups guys 👊

signal ivy
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technically they didn't remove it if it was never added thinkSmart (specifically the cutscenes)

foggy torrent
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Based

ruby knoll
spark bluff
grave ether
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Some of y'all need to go rinse off in some fresh water with the amount of salt sprinkled on y'all

pearl moth
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Join Game, enemy team are BBFs since the bronze age, my team is either afk or keep shooting each other. Just Halo things I guess

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open umbra
noble urchin
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no more narrative cutscenes. sad times...

outer sand
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I just saw that
Yeah... Kinda a bummer. I guess I kinda took them for granted
But I guess the team has a lot on their shoulders, I was just hoping for one or two

devout kite
celest heron
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can I stop getting put in games with 17-1800 onyx's. K, thanks

novel basalt
languid vessel
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is 35% accuracy bad?

celest heron
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yes

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but there's no context

languid vessel
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T-T

ruby knoll
languid vessel
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._.

languid vessel
celest heron
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then no

languid vessel
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and now its 29%...

celest heron
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the AR is going to drop your accuracy significantly.

languid vessel
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._.

celest heron
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why does it matter

languid vessel
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i was just curious

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ima CQC guy so ehh

celest heron
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I just got 53% but was using the br

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also, guy was just camping on the cliffhanger sniper spawn for the whole game and watched his team lose cause we were just camping camo spawn with the sword. lul

languid vessel
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._.

tepid latch
slender cave
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Well at least there is finally Ranked Slayer

shadow turret
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Honestly, its a playlist I'll maybe play like once, I don't like either the AR or Bandit that much, especially compared to the BR

slender cave
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How on earth its not BR's is mind baffling, who is Multiplayer lead over at 343i?

shadow turret
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Idk
But BR is like the staple Ranked weapon, and they're just replacing it in this playlist

celest heron
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I thought it'd be the sidekick

shadow turret
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I'd love it if it was Sidekick

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Sidekick is prolly one of my favourite weapons to use

celest heron
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motion tracker is also on so think this is a more casual/experimental ranked playlist.

sullen anvil
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should the Bot Bootcamp playlist be moved into the Academy/Tutorial menu and moved out of the Multiplayer menu?

shadow turret
exotic vigil
novel basalt
left snow
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Looking forward to trying out the Ranked Slayer. Love the Bandit (H5 Magnum vibes). Love the map choices (some getting a chance for redemption). Love that we get it for a month. Not so keen on the radar.

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And what do we think the ranked "meta shift" is going to be? Coming after the Worlds 2023.

analog salmon
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i think its perfect for players dissatisfied with the large skill discrepancy between players in social but dont wanna go full HCS settings and limited map selection

analog salmon
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including the AR makes me think 343 wanna try to entice players from the Team Slayer playlist rather then Ranked Arena

crystal iron
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tinfoil hat They removed cutscenese because they couldnt figure out how to get them to stop playing every time you launch the game.

analog salmon
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i feel bad for HiddenXperia, he was really hype about those cutscenes

onyx latch
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For once I agree with Hidden. That's actually one hell of a blow to my enjoyment.

stray seal
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Coatings applying to the new attachments in S4 is great. Just hope they eventually get around to fixing older ones like Vauntlock (Jorge's chest piece).

analog salmon
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yeah or some way to choose whether or not they apply

round forge
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They need to change up covert CTF or straight up remove it. giving the attacking team invisibility is completely overpowered. I think it would be more fair if carrying the flag prevented you from being invisible just like it did in the previous games. Another solution could be to nerf invisibility in some way.

devout kite
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We’re four hours away from season 4

round forge
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I'll check back then.

devout kite
crystal iron
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Oof just got around tona video by Foot Ghost talking about his theory about future Narrative events and noticed it was posted 2 days ago... Like damn he had some cool theories but it did not age welll

onyx latch
open umbra
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Maybe someone will make some parkour maps based on quantum translocator's sling shot ability

onyx latch
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That's actually a really good idea

crystal iron
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Ok unpopular Opinion, but I kinda hope they don't continue the current story plot of the narrative events.

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Or at least where it left off

onyx latch
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Why? It was interesting.

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I was finding it more engaging than Infinite's actual campaign tbh.

crystal iron
# onyx latch Why? It was interesting.

It was but I think the story might have been kinda going off from the campaigns story, an d honestly the campaign story kinda went off in many directions, we had the whole Weapon, Chief and Pilot Team up, Atriox still alive, possible Time Travel, the Endless, the whole conversation abouy offensive Bias..

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So overall I feel they really should dial down onto one plot point before kinda make a whole new one

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Ot either needs to all tie in together in a way makes sense or just kind recon some stuff and focus on a single plot point thing, cus they are really just leaving way to many open ended things.

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It honestly is giving me the vibe that they are falling down the path not really having an actual direction with the story and we will just end up getting another Halo 5 confusing story line

analog salmon
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its basically a story shaped around the live service

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"how do we make a story that adds to Infection landing in Season 4"

crystal iron
analog salmon
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yah

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its honestly all a bit cheesy how it ties into the MP gameplay imo

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i think it would have worked better if they were able to deliver PVE content since launch. like Firefight maps that had story to them each season

crystal iron
analog salmon
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yah

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they could have still tied infection in to it tbh but i just think other then infection, the narrative really hasn't worked well with the MP

open umbra
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I personally think they want to expand the universe with the seasonal narrative like the way they did with halo 4 (campaign focus on relationships between chief and cortana and spartan ops focus on the conflict between infinity and storm covenant)
But this time it becomes the event prior to infinite's campaign?(I honestly don't know the timeline after commander agryna have a supposed search and rescue op in the S1 academy cutscene)

analog salmon
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its post the campaign im pretty sure

crystal iron
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The academy storyline is Right after the Infinity got blown up.

So it's in that 6 month gap from there to when the pilot found Chief

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My concern is that without a catch campaign team, the narrative events would have kinda gone really off track from where the campaign starts off.

analog salmon
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oh i didnt even catch that ngl

crystal iron
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Also the AI don't make sense, these are designed to not be Cortana 2.0 crazy, yet we have a banished AI that seems to go against what they described our AI to be.

primal solar
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What's this weekly capstone challenge? 😅

crystal iron
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Like in the academy Intro the New style AI are introduced as a more simple design that's not supposed to go rogue .. and than we get a banished AI that goes rogue and seems as consciously aware as Cortana was

onyx latch
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Well, the instance of Iratus you have in your spartan both likely isn't canon, and is pointedly a neutered variant.

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It says as much in his description.

onyx latch
crystal iron
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Either way I just they somehow are able to get the two storylines in synce and it's not two completely disconnected things.

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Dear God I hope the weekly are not play Infection cus I really don't want to play infection

onyx latch
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I'd wager the next season is Iratus contacting the Banished while infecting the program's sims, and that leads to... something.

crystal iron
onyx latch
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NOOOO

crystal iron
# onyx latch NOOOO

It's cannon buddy, ske7tch confirmed it when he announced no more narrative events lol

analog salmon
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Iratus infects the matchmaker and you can only play infection

onyx latch
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No, he said no seasonal narrative cutscenes.

crystal iron
onyx latch
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Unless he clarified it as no narrative in-engine cutscenes at all recently.

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There's a difference.

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Because event cutscenes are narrative cutscenes, but they aren't seasonal ones.

open umbra
open umbra
primal solar
vivid light
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Was headshots or something easy

analog salmon
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yuh headshots

crystal iron
analog salmon
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one of these weeks i got the ultimate without paying any attention to my challenges

primal solar
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Oh cool so like one game of swat okay haha

vivid light
primal solar
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I'm queueing for the one game of ranked I have left because apparently I didn't even get a rank this season lmao

vivid light
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Breh

crystal iron
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Honestly what slightly depresses me is how we know for sure we are not getting any kind of closure on the campaign story anytime soon. At least not within the next two years, it could be 4 yrs before we get any continuation.

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Unless Microsoft somehow Lofts the hiring freeze like today and hires and trains everyone in the next month, yea it's Going to be a while before we get closure on anything

signal ivy
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I mean, that's how long it usually takes to get a new campaign

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it's not a yearly release, sometimes it takes 3+ years

crystal iron
# signal ivy I mean, that's how long it usually takes to get a new campaign

But I'm not talking a new campaign I'm talking just DLC or expansions to current campaign. We won't even get that anytime soon.

Although I do find kinda want to know exactly how much resources were the narrative cutscenes holding back the team to where stopping that is somehow going to create a significant change

signal ivy
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but why were you expecting campaign DLC? Halo is not known for that

crystal iron
# signal ivy but why were you expecting campaign DLC? Halo is not known for that

Well this Halo Was sapposed to be like the platform to grow off of, so It was safe to assume it being a Live Service the campaign was sapposed to be getting Updates alongside the MP side.

But obviously that didn't pan out, I'd assume had 343 had the resources we would have gotten our normal seasons and perhaps Two expansions to the campaign.

Ghost recon breakpoint got sort of a story expansions which eventually concluded the story,

Halo Infinite could have been planning to do the same

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Remember this Halo Wasn't sapposed to exactly take the same route as previous Halo games so I'm very sure the original concept was we were supposed to get Campaign expansions that carried on with the story over the 10 year plan so essentially every year there was an expansion that continued the sorry post Campaign

open umbra
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Yet the management ruined it...sad

crystal iron
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Well I'm going to bed, later everyone

analog salmon
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there's SkyBox Labs, Sperasoft, Certain Affinity, Liquid Development and a few other support studios

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but most of them seemed to start working on Infinite only a year or two prior to launch

limpid pollen
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where is season 4

analog salmon
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skybox i think were the main co-developer but they aren't a huge studio

analog salmon
limpid pollen
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a mistake 343 made was hiring contractors to work on certain aspects of the game, so when those contractors are gone theres no one around familiar with these certain aspects, allegedly

analog salmon
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allegedly

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we will never really know

coarse dagger
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You would be hard pressed to find companies that don't hire contract workers

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343 has FTEs and had FTEs during Infinite's development

limpid pollen
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for sure more of a sad industry thing than a 343 thing 😔

versed pollen
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Where I can download the HALO: Combat Evolved PC patch 1.0.10? When I try to find it I always go to the main bungie page and not finding any download link. Can you guys help me, please?

signal ivy
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I actually have that patch, idk how you feel about accepting the file from me or even if I'm allowed to

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you can find it though, just google halo ce 10.0.10

versed pollen
versed pollen
signal ivy
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I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know how much of this I can dive into.

versed pollen
signal ivy
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well I know there was a patch for Halo CE PC that did remove the disc chek but it gets into really shady territory quickly

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that patch was official

versed pollen
signal ivy
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no like, obtaining the game, keys etc

versed pollen
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All I need is the patch.

coarse dagger
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The halo.bungie.net site is nuked now, there should be a mirror of that patch out there somewhere.
Maybe Halopedia might have it or have an idea where a safe to download patch is

versed pollen
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Here is the main point. I don't really know if I should buy the H:CEA or simply download the patch.

signal ivy
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honestly, I would buy CEA

versed pollen
signal ivy
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CEA on MCC fixes a lot of issues with the gearbox port

versed pollen
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But is it possible to play on W10 H:CEPC without downloading the patch?

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I think this silence is a big "no".

signal ivy
versed pollen
signal ivy
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I just think you'll have a better experience on MCC

ruby knoll
dense onyx
devout kite
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Will the store update at 1pm or when season 4 is live

stray seal
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Download has started on steam. 24gb 💀

devout kite
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42.81GB for Xbox

rugged walrus
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😭

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It's happening

stray seal
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soon infinite is going to take up my entire ssd lol

crystal iron
devout kite
crystal iron
formal girder
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Man, what a hell of a download. Looking forward to playing a bit

solid ingot
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i assume a lot of it is going to be the decoupling of campaign and multiplayer

devout kite
solid ingot
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they may have reverted some of the glitches speedrunners used in campaign on that side

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buts thats a lot of copium tbf

shadow turret
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My Halo has begun to update

misty vale
ruby knoll
shadow turret
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35.4 GB for me on Steam

devout kite
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Yeah the decoupling Campaign and Multiplayer is the reason why it’s so big

rugged walrus
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Anyone that bought the Spartan Scrub Receive the Smellbringer coating?

ancient sun
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updated my pinned S4 summary to show end date of October 17th

ancient sun
latent basalt
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waiting for it to update for cloud gaming since it'll take longer on my xbox

solid ingot
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i have to wait 3 and a half hours until i can see how this has changed

misty vale
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holy MOLY people are AWFUL at infection

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I have never played this mode before, not once, and got 1st

inner mist
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infection already started?

solid ingot
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apparently so

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ubernick played it on stream

misty vale
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it starts these guys in a room with literal doors on it

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what do they do? Open the doors!

inner mist
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I thought the new season comes in 3 minutes?

misty vale
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why?? Because you gotta go find the infected and shoot @ them!

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why would you do literally anything else in this mode such as "leave the doors intact so that you can shoot infected as they come for you"? Lol go get them and just shoot them

devout kite
misty vale
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infection is fun tho but holy cow the ranked slayer boys are gonna be crying HARD

devout kite
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Why did they add radar?

solid ingot
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because zombies can camo by crouching

misty vale
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Because the playerbase is bad enough at the game as it stands

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and absolutely need radar to get a score above 100

inner mist
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it really takes a lot of time to update from Xbox app

crystal mortar
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day 1, i'd say it's going well

vale zodiac
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Anyone know if settings reset is fixed?

crystal iron
# devout kite Why did they add radar?

honestly? I suspect because footsteps sounds are broken. They have tried to fix them for two seasons with no success. It's amazingly frustrating how silent spartans are when sprinting at you

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I'm not fan of the radar but I'd rather have it than being backsmacked without even a second to react

smoky wave
desert halo
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How is the update 54GB? 🙄

obtuse storm
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Because Campaign and Multiplayer are now Decoupled.

loud egret
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Ngl im reading the patch notes and i just keep saying to myself damn it took this long to add this or that or fix this or that but its cool i guess

keen obsidian
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It's good to focus on the positive, we all wanted more stuff earlier, but we can't change the past

brave berry
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does this patch fix the saving progress issues in the campaign?

vernal crag
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I need some help here, I have one of the dr.Squatch codes and I have been trying for an hour to get the code to activate in waypoint, am I missing something or did I get screwed?

inner mist
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only 4 GB is done, downloading in KBps in a 5G connection...

devout kite
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343 ruined btb

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Nobody asked for btb heavies to be in normal btb

novel basalt
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BTB heavies is trash. Everybody is either camping in a vehicle or around vehicle spawns.

analog salmon
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people asked for BTB Heavies back and there's a limited number of playlists

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i dont have an opinion on it but it's not like they did it just to spite you lol

devout kite
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Mixing it with normal is stupid

analog salmon
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having two BTB playlists is problematic also

ruby knoll
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So seeing the complaints about heavies is peak comedy

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For the record i like both regular btb and heavies in infinite

onyx latch
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I heard that BR+Rocket Launcher happens in BTB on spawn rn

novel basalt
analog salmon
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i personally think they should find a good vehicle balance and just have 1 mode, but im glad they are experimenting

onyx latch
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That's turbobased if so

supple moat
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I enjoyed btb heavies in Reach and can’t stand Infinite BTB but it hasn’t come up yet for me… should be a separate play list with forge maps as it was in Reach

onyx latch
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... But it wasn't a seperate playlist in Reach.

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It was part of the BTB playlist.

supple moat
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I recall you could specifically choose it…

novel basalt
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At the very least, they should have added more anti-vehicle weapons like skewers and hydras and reduced the spawn timers for such weapons.

analog salmon
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i dont remember there being two different playlists myself. I know a fair few maps were only heavies like Paradiso

novel basalt
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It just seems ironic playing a mode called "heavies" and seeing needlers, magnums, and manglers on the weapon racks.

young glen
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I wonder if this patch will fix the settings glitch that some experience.

true epoch
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We got ray tracing… yes’s

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Man the game looks so much better

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Btw, how to watch the cutscene??

analog salmon
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bad news

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there isn't one

true epoch
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Ok. I was wondering if it was a bug for me

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But damn the game looks good with ray tracing

analog salmon
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i gotta check it out

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i wonder if it will come to campaign too

true epoch
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@proven breach : Game looks good with RT. Applause to the team

true epoch
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There is a setting called “Raytraced sun Shadows.

solid canopy
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So they're abandoning seasonal narratives

fleet kiln
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non of my challenges seem to be suitable for infection..

solid canopy
full warren
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yeah infection is not for me lol

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all you do is run around with no ammo shooting lol

eternal lion
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Loving the new front of subtitles ... no
Why its not that large ? Why can't we change it back.

full warren
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Yeah the ping and fps are massive lol

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way too noticable, I might have to remove them and use the steam version instead

civic sluice
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Is Spnkr start btb a bug?

eternal lion
coarse dagger
vagrant glade
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christ, how many more sweats are there? Every game so far has been curbstomps

full warren
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wait there is spnker start? I might need to pop into BTB just to see the mess haha

coarse dagger
vagrant glade
crystal iron
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Something wonky is going on with team balancing/mmr, at least in swat.

true epoch
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Ok, I noticed one thing there are 6 battle pass tiers with the same armour coating named midnight for each Armour Core.

shrewd aspen
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So general BTB got bugged to have rocket starts? People aren't referring to skockets?

coarse dagger
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It's an unintended change, 343 are aware and are looking into it

shrewd aspen
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I was just confirming thats what happened. Thats funny.

eternal lion
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Dang the VF is so in disaray...

novel basalt
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If only the rocket starts were in heavies.

shrewd aspen
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Rockets for all! 🚀salute

eternal lion
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Well that's it for me XD
Bugs, UI is awfull and the French "translation" is just made by a machine and not complete...

novel basalt
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Their localization team must have been part of the layoffs.

devout kite
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Btb have to be removed from the rotation

eternal lion
novel basalt
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They sure have a lot of temp workers for a game that was idealized to be "the next 10 years of Halo."

coarse dagger
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Where are you getting this information from?

eternal lion
#

It is of course stopped at 2021

clever inlet
#

anyone here?

devout kite
#

Why does 343 force me to play btb heavies knowing I hate it

toxic parrot
#

Am I supposed to get xp from infection? Just played a game and got nothing

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None of my challenges counted either

celest heron
#

didn't know the using the repulser lowered accuracy stats

true epoch
#

Are the weapon models cosmetic or do they offer any changes to the operations of the weapons??

analog salmon
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Cosmetic

devout kite
#

Why am I not getting the new btb map

true epoch
#

But overall I like this update

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Much better over whatever they released in S3

misty vale
#

Infection would be more fun if people employed strategy

serene furnace
#

The new assault rifle model is so cool

true epoch
serene furnace
true epoch
serene furnace
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Most strategic play you'll see in Halo is in CTF where you grab the flag and get on top of a Wasp and the guy with the Wasp flies you back to the base

misty vale
#

it would, however, be a better game mode with more tension and release to the gameplay cadence if people realized that their strong spawn locations are strong and that breaking down the doors to go chase kills significantly weakens their strength

true epoch
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This was a big update 54GB on series X. Don’t know about you poor PC guys how big it was for you.😂😂😂

misty vale
#

it was a lot smaller

serene furnace
#

Halo fans hate competitive or strategic play
Even in classic games like Halo 3 all you see is people running to see who grabs the better vehicle first

shrewd aspen
#

If you put pros into BTB they would actually strategize

misty vale
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All I see in most games is "people running". It's not a bad thing, people are allowed to play a game however they have fun, but for a supposed "competitive" game

shrewd aspen
#

Casual BTB with 12 randos shouldn't be expected to have organized battle lines and well honed rotations

misty vale
#

That's why heavies is fun because it takes the craziness to another level. Same reason I like fiesta

serene furnace
#

Anything that isn't ranked shouldn't be expected to not be casual

fierce island
#

If the playlist selection stays like this, I will probably play this game damn near daily, the only thing that could make it better at this point would be to have Heavies be it's own playlist

half nexus
#

just out of interest, on the halo support website where do i go to raise a ticket thing cause my game keeps crashing after less than 5 mins of it being open

bleak nymph
#

Speaking of, LOL BTB Heavies has Rocket secondary starts right now. It's unintentional and they are going to fix it. But for the time being enjoy the chaos.

serene furnace
#

Hey they made the store a bit more presentable

magic night
analog salmon
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Like 8GB steam update

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Nice discord didn’t load

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Xd

true epoch
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Bit confused with the career rank system. Do you reach silver only after you complete general level at bronze??

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How do I reach hero level??

eternal lion
ruby knoll
true epoch
solid ingot
#

I mean, Halo 5 was also a massive grind, as was Reach

half nexus
eternal lion
magic night
analog salmon
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Bruh lost 99-100 and some guy blocked me getting a headshot with the shock rifle 😭

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Pretty sure it was lined up

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Would have been an overkill as well

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Think they added extra br/commando pads to chasm

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Helpful but still can’t stand the map tbh

outer schooner
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BTB heavies changes are dreadful

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Basically BTB rockets

young glen
#

Not intended.

full warren
# ruby knoll That's what infection has always been

Why do people enjoy this tho, the infected once in numbers = won game since once they get 4-5 people its game over. an by then you ran out of ammo already all they gotta do it run at you over and over again

full warren
outer schooner
#

Ahh thank god

ruby knoll
serene furnace
crystal iron
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Can't hit 120 fps on the forest map with a series x lmao

serene furnace
full warren
serene furnace
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There's people that find The Sims and League of Legends fun. And you wonder why people like infection?

crystal iron
#

I'm sitting here at 70 fps in the menu too

novel basalt
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It runs 120 fps, but after a couple of matches, it gradually dips.

serene furnace
crystal iron
crystal iron
analog salmon
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It’s a target

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Dunno if they fixed VRR yet

crystal iron
#

I don't have vrr enabled

analog salmon
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But VRR and 120hz are often both supported

lime robin
#

Did the update fix the settings bug on Xbox?

analog salmon
crystal iron
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Sewer pipe map is holding steady at 120. Though I just got yeeted into a kill barrier somehow

wide trout
#

@dusk thunder Please don’t use profanity here

full warren
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I am not the kind of player just to sit and wait I like to run at them and kill them and move around but this mode is the opposite of that, the camping is unreal

crystal iron
analog salmon
# wide trout VRR?

Variable refresh rate, basically monitor refreshes at frame rate. Didn’t work right at launch. I use it on PC and I think it works but on console it causes stutter

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Last update it was super broken on console, like noticible judder even when locked at 120 or 60

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But what it should do is reduce input lag if you drop below 120 or 60

ruby knoll
clever inlet
#

I didn't complete season 3 pass..great

trim wasp
#

Why is there a version of BTB Slayer where everyone spawns with BR and Rocket? It's gotta be a mistake.

misty vale
#

lotta weight on "up to" in these advertisements fwiw

crystal iron
analog salmon
#

I hate qualifiers so much

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I’m gonna qualify this time so low cause I can’t do this super slow flow my team mates have

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No team shooting at all

crystal iron
#

OH YES DADDY MORE HALO CONTENT WOOOOOOO

dusk thunder
#

Wow those bullets really curve around corners these days

#

Hammer hit detection is only getting worse

#

It’s been a year and a half… how much more patient can I be?

misty vale
#

The switch from server to shooter preference in the netcode really been rough on y'all huh

brave berry
#

why doesn't the game save my progress? got a checkpoint after beating the two hunters in the silent auditorium. then when i came back to the game that hadn't been saved

dusk thunder
misty vale
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Halo 2-5 were server determined netcode models, under that netcode your info and your opponent's info are sent over to the server and the server decides if you hit them or not. The problem with that is that servers are not fast enough for server-side netcode to feel good above around 120 fps; and this game runs above that on many PCs.

Shooter determinate netcode, which has been the standard in PC gaming for awhile, is exactly that. If someone hits you on their screen it counts as a hit.

When going from server-side netcode on standard hardware to shooter preference netcode one of the, if not the #1, complaints is that "I was behind that wall when I got shot". No, you weren't behind that wall on their screen, and you did get shot.

The reason that it feels even worse in Halo is probably something that's especially difficult to fix - and is also probably the reason for the dreaded "desync": This game supports very old hardware that runs at very low framerates and so the positional data between 240hz and 30hz is beyond significant.

novel basalt
#

The point system for infection seems so wack.

twilit mango
#

Anyone wanna just talk about stuff they really like about Halo : 0

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Not even really a specific game just in general

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I like when the guns go pew

soft spear
#

I like just being able to be goofy in Halo and 50/50 the other team will be goofs with you

misty vale
#

I like the gameplay it's a super fun game to play; especially BTB Heavies

soft spear
#

I take extreme pleasure in stopping folks with shock rifles in BTB matches

twilit mango
soft spear
ruby knoll
#

I like the grapple. I've seen it in other games but I feel infinite's is pretty well done compared to others

soft spear
#

I sometimes boot up the campaign just to grapple around places

twilit mango
ruby knoll
#

I also like the mix of on foot and vehicle gameplay halo has had.

misty vale
#

It's a great break from aim-mechanic #1 gaming

twilit mango
soft spear
ruby knoll
#

I hope that forge ai stuff implies official stuff

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Official pve stuff i mean

twilit mango
soft spear
twilit mango
#

Honestly 343 has been doing great work since day 1, my only problem (and honestly I don’t have a problem with it I can just tell it’s hurting everyone else) is their taking too long to do things. I’m pretty sure a part of that has to do with them not trying to burn themselves out the way everyone else in the industry does

twilit mango
soft spear
#

Game/app dev definitely set themselves up for failure by over-promising/overworking to deliver and it's a trend that I wish would chill out

twilit mango
#

If Halo Infinte forge does add campaign AI, that would be a major addition not just to halo but in games in general lol

soft spear
#

Yeah at that point you almost have a game maker inside of a game

#

Infinite's scripting is already pretty decent

twilit mango
#

Halo is the reason I think every good video game should add a level editor, and forge is my standard. Hardly anyone does it though lol

#

Like I know it takes time and gosh darn effort, but if you do it good then you just gave us limitless content

soft spear
#

I dunno if I actually want this, but I do wish you could just host a 24/7 custom game on a dedicated server

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So I could basically host Infection on that dope Waffle House map all day long 😂

twilit mango
#

That would also solve the issue of just sort of needing to know a guy who knows a guy who does customs every Saturday at 7pm

#

Instead of that you could just boot up a server that’s always popping

soft spear
#

Yuppp

twilit mango
#

I’ve been playing ARMA Reforger a bunch and having servers like that are definitely great. Gotta pay for em though

soft spear
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Ideally if that became a thing it would come with a way to chat in the lobby tho - like if a game mode needed 12 folks and you only had 11 then folks could be like “1 sec asking a friend” instead of people just leaving because the game didn’t start immediately

twilit mango
soft spear
soft spear
twilit mango
soft spear
twilit mango
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Reach done spoiled me

soft spear
#

I do think we'll get there with Infinite though - I'm not sure if Infection is sweaty but it's mostly just been insane amounts of fun

#

Husky Raid was a lot of fun in Halo 5 (esp. if you have the right maps for it)

#

I'm a little sad Grifball isn't a thing yet - that seems like an easy win minus the grapple hooks

serene bolt
#

Infection is surprisingly tense.
But I'm still leaving if I get fist zombie.
No one (including me) is interested in the main enemy getting murdered over and over accomplishing nothing

twilit mango
soft spear
#

The cloaked alpha zombies make the same weird digital noise that the environment makes, right?

twilit mango
#

I’m a very patient man though so I’m fine

bleak nymph
#

Today was definitely the most consistently unstable connection I've experienced in Infinite so far. The lag is very real. Usually it's the odd match or odd moment here and there, but today it was basically constant.

soft spear
#

I've caught a few based on sound but I'm trying to figure out if I just got lucky

twilit mango
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Like it’s super hard, but all you need is for someone to make one little slip up, and if you get just one guy, it all snowballs

civic sluice
#

Anyone know where the helmet shown off on the 99th tier of the pass is?

soft spear
civic sluice
#

Its legit the best looking one.

twilit mango
serene bolt
rose void
#

anyone else keep getting the screen of the new armor cores no matter what they click

soft spear
twilit mango
rose void
#

We get it 343i you launched a new armor core jk though not mad probally a bug but each thing i click in and out of smh

serene bolt
#

I had that but it randomly stopped after a while so likely a bug

twilit mango
#

I was kind of like “wtf is the armor core” until I realized it’s perfect aesthetically for infection lol

novel basalt
#

Why does survival time have a huge impact on points in Infection? It's already bad enough that the mode encourages camping.

bleak nymph
# twilit mango I haven’t been able to play yet but so many people complain about lag, disconnec...

I played for an hour. No disconnection, but an absolute ton of micro-rubberbanding and weird shot registration. Like they would register most of the time, but it was spotty whether they'd be instant or delayed. Definitely nabbed a few kills around corners on people.

Best way I can describe it is it feels like everyone is half a second behind me, and I'm half a second behind everyone else at the same time.

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Both in movement and shots.

twilit mango
#

Really cool they revolved a entire plot line and season around infection, everyone was complaining about it not being here, and really they just had bigger plans for it lol

twilit mango
bleak nymph
serene bolt
soft spear
#

Camping is why the zombies have to be a little OP honestly

twilit mango
#

Y’all remember sword base in halo reach? There where two or three spots everyone would just cluster into and hold on to their butts

soft spear
#

Shroud Screen is a game changer with folks camping with the turrets

serene bolt
#

The office...

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Bane of my existence

twilit mango
bleak nymph
twilit mango
bleak nymph
#

As the guns got stronger, and more accurate, the zombies had to be sped up to compensate but it always felt kind of sillier as time went on and they made them faster and faster.

#

Infinite's zombies are SUPER fast

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Like they make Reach zombies feel sluggish.

twilit mango
#

I can’t wait to see, I also love that they gave a sort of story reason for the infection, making them like a AI corruption was so awesome. If there’s one thing I love about 343 is trying to give context for things and not just being like “idk it’s a mode in a video game”

bleak nymph
serene bolt
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Speed didn't help me at all.
First game my sword flat out did nothing to two different people
And the second it didn't matter what I did there was one guy with a battle rifle that insta killed me every time.
Sprinting, sliding, crouchwalking, shroud shield...
Didn't matter

twilit mango
ruby knoll
#

DLC was never announced

twilit mango
#

The main campaign left off with a “oh we are just getting started” and it’s suppose to be a live service, so put the pieces together lol

ruby knoll
#

Implied and announced are two different ballparks

twilit mango
#

I also wonder if their still gonna try to switch to the unreal engine

#

Still don’t know how I feel about that

serene bolt
#

I thought they dropped the DLC for a later game instead?

twilit mango
#

I remember when forge came out the bandit was in the selection for weapons, just not spawnable lol. Big oopsie

bleak nymph
twilit mango
#

I’m pretty sure they wanna try everything they can with this game for the next years or so, hopefully they can get teams together to do big things like new camping content and what not

serene bolt
bleak nymph
serene bolt
#

Ah okay

#

Also is infection 4 rounds long or does it end when the humans win?

ruby knoll
#

Wut

bleak nymph
#

Right now, I think we are set for content for a while. I wouldn't mind if season 5's new content was just like one map from the ones they are already in progress on. One of the new weapons they've been working on. And a full buckle down focus on bugs, networking, and improvements to aim smoothing.

ruby knoll
karmic oriole
#

Where's this new legacy sniper zoom in setting? I can't find it anywhere

coarse dagger
twilit mango
#

Wait you mean clicking in the right stick to zoom?

karmic oriole
#

They changed it, or supposedly did, where they added a setting that let's you change sniper zoom to previous halo snipers. If you zoom in twice then switch weapons and switch back to sniper you'll be back on 1x zoom (old halos). In infinite right now, if you zoom in twice and switch weapons and switch back to the sniper it stays on 2x zoomed in

coarse dagger
slow thicket
#

you right

karmic oriole
#

Is there anyway to view a progression system page? Where I can view each rank and rewards with each rank?

spark ibex
#

Anyone experiencing any input lag since s4 update? While aiming it feels like it oscillates between higher and lower sensitivities. I've also noticed it trying to throw fusion coils (and died because of it lol). Pressed the throw button and attempted to change targets while timing the animation of the throw only to have the coil still in my hands.

tepid latch
spark ibex
#

It kinda feels like that bug when you open halo with the mouse and keyboard and switch to controller for games (the autoaim bug or whatevs)

#

imma go play the new mtg lotr set and wait for next minipatch ❤️

orchid creek
#

At least for me, the ping counter(now 30) has gone down but I feel like I have even laggier than before (80ish before)

#

Also hit reg is wack

noble urchin
#

ahhhhhh, career progression. if they ever add a PvE mode, it's OVER

novel basalt
noble urchin
nocturne folio
ruby knoll
nocturne folio
noble urchin
nocturne folio
#

wait what?

#

you think this game is complete and functional 100%???

hollow bobcat
#

Speaking of functional, I'm getting infinite loading circles all over the menus.

limpid saffron
#

Does halo mcc still detect boosters ?

nocturne folio
hollow bobcat
#

I can't even searchf for a match. That's the issue. I'll try signing in again.

nocturne folio
#

oooh i think i know what they did there, they fixed the infinite loading bug this season and just made it worse and put it straight back into the game files i quess.

hollow bobcat
#

Yup, nothing is loading. All I get is the menu music, but nothing else is loading

#

Oh wait, I can play a match. Hopefully, it'll fix itself.

nocturne folio
#

🙏

young glen
nocturne folio
#

tbh

#

a new halo game since these updates are just way too small for me to get me hyped to play longer then 2 days each new update

young glen
nocturne folio
#

yeah i know

#

that's the sad truth about the last few halo games

median flame
#

i did in infection the ninja attack 😂

nocturne folio
#

total disasters compared to the older titles

crystal iron
nocturne folio
#

halo mcc took years to actually be a functional game and dont get me wrong i kinda like that one atm it's just infinite that after 1,5/2 years is still so empty as a game while halo 5 just kept giving updates a whole year long packed to the max with each update even though it was loot boxed prioritised

#

we dont talk about halo 4

#

❤️

coarse dagger
#

Halo 5s DLC release model wasn't sustainable, it burned devs out

crystal iron
#

Is it like windows 9

coarse dagger
#

Nothing wrong with Halo 4, I really enjoyed the campaign and multiplayer

crystal iron
#

Or ipv5

nocturne folio
# coarse dagger Halo 5s DLC release model wasn't sustainable, it burned devs out

they dont have to give us "free" updates that burn the devs out... they can just start making actual games that are complete from the start so that those "free" updates dont have to exist at all. that's not so hard is it? i know it's not only a 343 or devs problem but also from the publishers with their deadlines and money problems

coarse dagger
#

Please remember to turn off the ping/tag before replying. Thanks

smoky wave
#

Doesn't help that people asks new content almost weekly even if the game seems "complete"

#

Oh and mostly free too

nocturne folio
#

just keep doing small events

#

that doesnt seem to burn the devs out

crystal iron
#

Not saying your complaints aren't valid, they totally are

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I just say we cannot do anything about it, it's out of our scope

nocturne folio
#

cause this game was advertised as the halo game for the next 10 years... well i see it somewhere far deep under ground in the next 2 years if it keeps going the way they are "updating" it right now

smoky wave
wise kite
#

lol going like 35 - 5 in tactical slayer and STILL losing because your other three teammates can't even muster up 15 kills

#

balanced matchmaking

crystal iron
nocturne folio
crystal iron
#

I had a ranked match where one guy went 0 kills and 12 deaths

smoky wave
#

Remember that the 10 year was mostly said by a director who is no longer at the studio
And also most likely had a loy of changes

nocturne folio
smoky wave
#

After the whole changes inside the company, a guy that is no longer in charge and layoffs
Do you really think they are still in that plan

hollow bobcat
#

Played one match. Still infinitely loading. I just have default outfits and customizations.

smoky wave
#

Just think a little bit more is not that hard

nocturne folio
smoky wave
crystal iron
nocturne folio
#

oh god

tepid latch
#

its not like they would go back on it because then there's even more speculation for if the game would be winding down sooner than what people might expect. best to not take that 10 year plan to heart and just go with whether or not you enjoy playing it

nocturne folio
#

the campaign is also not your guys priority i see

tepid latch
crystal iron
#

The campaign is another completely different topic tbh. A lot of people got it for $1 on the game pass

#

Or got it at discount

smoky wave
#

Basically

young glen
tepid latch
young glen
#

Hmm.

tepid latch
#

but there's a decent chance that the next halo story would be separate from Infinites MP

smoky wave
#

That's a possibility

#

I wouldn't mind too much tbh

tepid latch
#

at least the Live Service Mp can continue and not have to be rebuilt

nocturne folio
#

so let me ask you it this way then: with the amount of support halo infinite got since day 1 till now and not counting future plans since they change all the times as i have heard here. will there ever be an next halo game without being an spinn-off or do you all think this is the end of the ride for halo?

pliant palm
#

random qq but did any of you guys buy the Synethtic Runtime bundle?

smoky wave
#

Nope

tepid latch
#

nah, havent

limpid saffron
pliant palm
#

if it's reported, sure

smoky wave
#

Is the one who does have the new AR model?

ruby knoll
limpid saffron
tepid latch
crystal iron
#

They said HI will be their focus for the next 10 years so we can only expect DLCs of HI

limpid saffron
ruby knoll
#

the 'complete' games people seem to worship are the result of hundreds of unseen compromises and content cuts behind the scenes

crystal iron
#

Hey just double checking in not home to check. It All new coatings from here are all cross core right, so if it says for the mirage armor core it still cross core right?

tepid latch
crystal iron
#

What does that mean

tepid latch
#

All Capstone and Event Coatings are still single core

nocturne folio
young glen
crystal iron
young glen
#

I thought it was ALL coatings from now on.

ruby knoll
smoky wave
#

Nope

hollow bobcat
#

Well, hopefully soon this glitch will be fixed. As of now. Infinite just loads forever and will sometimes not allow me to play a match. Even if I can, every customization is set to default and nothing fixes it.

ruby knoll
#

not to mention a wide open market with few competitors

tepid latch
#

this will change with season 5 where they aim to have one coating be applicable to all cores

sullen kilnBOT
crystal iron
coarse dagger
#

No

tepid latch
smoky wave
#

Just veeeeeery slowly

crystal iron
#

Well that was disappointing I figured Season 4 was the whole cross core coating except for past season coatings

nocturne folio
young glen
smoky wave
ruby knoll
crystal iron
tepid latch
limpid saffron
#

Guys do they even update mcc anymore?

tepid latch
#

could be that they stick with free coatings being single core 🤷 who knows

tepid latch
crystal iron
#

Sman the whole cross core coatings what such a big sell for S4, and it turned out to be kinda a let down... Really is starting to feel like..."Hey actually it's coming next season" is the new motto

nocturne folio
#

so if it's so incomplete and buggy like i said i don't disagree on that note why is it still more populair than halo infinite that's way more buggy and incomplete? no wide open market not enough advertised? what's the problem then?

coarse dagger
#

I think it was the Discord Stage event where they discusses cross core - essentially when it was first announced to be a thing, it wasn't yet a thing. They were still working through details and figuring out solutions

ruby knoll
#

Infinite has issues + the market is far more competitive and saturated

crystal iron
ruby knoll
#

never said infinite is flawless. It's flawed for sure

undone sluice
#

even with new update I still cannot find matches within 5 minutes

tepid latch
young glen
crystal iron
#

Feels very misleading

ruby knoll
#

i'm like 99% sure the message was always 'premium coatings will be crosscore'

tepid latch
#

you just have to unlock them all first :///

crystal iron
#

Ok so Ethan what do you mean unlock them all, if I unlock a coating once, than it's cross core to all cores I have unlocked correct

#

I'm trying to understand what you mean by that

limpid saffron
#

I don’t think they update mcc there hasn’t been a new battle pass in like 6 months

#

I wish they still added stuff to the game

#

For their loyal players like me

coarse dagger
#

MCC is still being worked on

ruby knoll
#

loyalty doesn't pay the bills

tepid latch
ruby knoll
#

well unless that loyalty is called 'Xbox Live Gold'

limpid saffron
coarse dagger
#

They have moved back to a "ready when it's ready" approach to updates, as a lot of things they are working on now will take care and time

tepid latch
coarse dagger
#

Like pulling out the old E3 build stuff

tepid latch
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so you'll have to unlock the coating for each core

#

until they make the change for season 5 Sean was hoping

coarse dagger
#

There's blogs on Waypoint about the work that's on going

limpid saffron
coarse dagger
#

Yes

limpid saffron
#

Thanks

coarse dagger
#

Please remember to turn off the ping/tag before replying. Thanks!

crystal iron
# tepid latch Coatings are still confined to cores

Well that's a rather unfortunate disappointment, the whole cross core coatings was a big sell for S4,

Mainly because I don't even play infection or even care about,

Is Forge AI also not coming in S4.... Oh hey how's the rank progression looking they put that in right at least that.

limpid saffron
#

Like I can’t even find a match in griffball sad times

crystal iron
#

Ok just got home booted up the game and Yea where is the career rank progression

fallen flame
limpid saffron
fallen flame
#

just the way the system works atm shows all the coatings separately

young glen
fallen flame
#

this will be changed for season 5

young glen
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It also shows it after every completed match, alongside it being on your nameplate.

crystal iron
coarse dagger
limpid saffron
#

Did it cost money to keep them running

coarse dagger
#

Please turn off the ping when replying

limpid saffron
#

Sorry

ruby knoll
#

infeasable? idk

limpid saffron
#

Wonder why they finally decided to pull the plug

tepid latch
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cuz MCC likely

limpid saffron
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I hope mcc never comes to that point

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I’d be sad

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All that grinding

tepid latch
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MCC has a custom games browser thankfully so even if official servers do go down

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but really, thats the price of all multiplayer games...

limpid saffron
tepid latch
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but you wouldn't wanna play on a lot of them considering the amount of hackers

limpid saffron
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2007 cod 4

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Servers are up

ruby knoll
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cod was matchmaking + server browser right?

limpid saffron
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Nope just match making and custom games

coarse dagger
# limpid saffron They were up for so long though

That's part of why they eventually pulled the plug. They had a good run, some games going for 13 years. But you can't always divert resources to maintain legacy systems and train people to maintain them. At some point you have to move forward and focus on newer projects.

limpid saffron
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But you can still play it’s dead though

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But servers are still up

deft bloom
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Mcc gets more players daily than infinite, at least on steam, don’t see why they’d pull the plug in the foreseeable future

ruby knoll
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only on steam

tepid latch
limpid saffron
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I wonder what the player count on Xbox is

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I feel like Xbox is pretty high too all my mcc social buddies are all Xbox

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Ik that’s not saying a lot but ik a lot of Xbox players

deft bloom
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Well Microsoft has their reasons for not making that info public lol. But still mcc gets 5-6k daily just on pc, why would they shut down servers anytime soon

tepid latch
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and the same goes for infinite. I play it on Xbox App because I can get a discount on credits with Gamepass

limpid saffron
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Mcc peak was only 93k?

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I swore it was higher xqc and all the big streamers were streaming it when it first came out

deft bloom
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Didn’t the pc version come out a while after Xbox release though

tepid latch
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BUT, i think most of the regained hype was from the PC version coming out and them bringing new life into the game with a complete overhaul of everything

ruby knoll
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I seriously wonder why MS/Xbox thought that a year was sufficient time to port like, 4 games over from the xbox og and 360 to the xbox one

tepid latch
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who said it was a year?

ruby knoll
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like if you want someone to blame for mcc's poor state, Xbox is culprit number 1

limpid saffron
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If mcc was free to play I wonder how much players would come to the game

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I think it’s on game pass though if I’m not mistaken

tepid latch
limpid saffron
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Isn’t infinite free to play?

tepid latch
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yes

limpid saffron
#

I wonder why mcc isn’t

ruby knoll
# tepid latch who said it was a year?

basically, MCC was originally going to be just H2A. It's why H2A had those cutscenes at the start and end with Locke and the Arbiter. However at some point it became a larger project, encompassing multiple games. Xbox/Microsoft wanted to use it to promote Halo 5, 1 year ahead of it launching. However this was like, in 2013, and the release was planned for 2014

limpid saffron
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And just make the campaigns $ and the multiplayer free

ruby knoll
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it's a single upfront charge

tepid latch
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and the Community already put their word in that they didnt want be be charged for spartan points

limpid saffron
ruby knoll
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Infinite probably pulls double duty in having to pull in money for itself and MCC

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though mainly itself

tepid latch
ruby knoll
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I do get why it was unpopular but it could've helped them justify more/faster MCC development to the corporate overlords

tepid latch
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I think i would have been okay with it, as long as it didnt create a paywall for content

limpid saffron
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What would they even make purchasable for in game items?

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For mcc

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@tepid latch @ruby knoll

tepid latch
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for MCC it was spartan points themself they wanted to monitize

limpid saffron
#

Also another thing I wish they did different was make you grind for armor

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I actually enjoyed that like for recon h3 doing the vid masters again etc

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Ik people don’t wanna do it but I feel like it would’ve been more rewarding

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And I have fun doing it

tepid latch
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I think that was something i disliked about MCC. I grew up on reach and unlocking everything with credits earned from progression. so just getting a point from levelling up and doing challenges felt a little more empty

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but i dont play MCC really now, probably partly because of that

limpid saffron
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Yeah so does ranking up your xp even give you anything anymore?

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I think I’m at like 50mil rn

tepid latch
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ranking up gives you spartan point im fairly certain

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idk if you're too high a level now?

limpid saffron
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He gets into the same game with his other accounts

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Is the game just dead so he matches but at the same time it’s sbmm so how’s that possible

fiery sluice
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How we looking for this season?

sleek hatch
limpid saffron
ivory glacier
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So… where are these new maps? Are they only in specific modes cuz I’ve been playing for almost 2 hours and it’s just another night of the same maps over and over

glacial tartan
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People rank themselves up to 50 by circle boosting in MCC, a few have done it for XP but thats rarer imo

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If I remember correctly the first person to 664M (bird/"max" rank) matched his own xbox to get there 😦

analog salmon
limpid saffron
analog salmon
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it does but its not enforced

limpid saffron
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So what’s that mean

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Exactly

analog salmon
#

it doesn't need both teams to have a chance of winning. it will try to find similar skill players, then it will find any random players

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and then it will attempt to balance for 50% but if its impossible it will still make the match

glacial tartan
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It has SBMM, its strict in ranked and loose in social

analog salmon
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due to the low population its basically just skill team balancing

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to try to achieve 50%

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odds

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Infinite by contrast does not make matches where it thinks the odds are heavily in favour of one team

glacial tartan
#

Can teams of 4 in Infinite (ranked) match teams of 1/2/3s mixed?

solid ingot
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It’s possible, but it’s unlikely

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Relatively anyway

analog salmon
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its happened to me 3 times in a row

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faced the exact same stack

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it wasn't impossible that we could win but it was very annoying

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all solos

solid ingot
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4 stacks have a inherent skill bump, so they should only show up if they are worse than your team

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Don’t quote me on that

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This is just things I have heard

analog salmon
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tbh these guys were all a league above me personally

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even in 1v1s i was outmatched a lot of the time

glacial tartan
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If they can, I'd hope it tries to match a to4 first and after X amount of time falls back to solos due to low pop

analog salmon
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probably the most broken i've experienced infinite SBMM in ranked, but like i say we did have a chance of winning

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maybe like 70-30 odds

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whereas in MCC you will have games where you have zero chance of winning

solid ingot
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Yeah, MCC is weird on matchmaking

analog salmon
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both games have prediction systems i would guess, mcc is just not using those systems prior to matching a bunch of players together

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i suspect its why you can see the matchmaker finding players in mcc, but you dont have that in infinite

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infinite is probably finding multiple potential lobbies concurrently and swapping players out of potential lobbies if it can't balance them

glacial tartan
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I'm curious if XP is included in the determination of a "fair" match in MCC

analog salmon
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its just a hidden MMR

hollow bobcat
#

Aside the Infinite loading bug, I did play one match of infected. I will say that the mode is extremely good. Can anybody confirm if forge maps made it into the rotation with a spooky look?

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I ask because Halo 5 did that one time. There were some custom maps to like a shopping mall and a haunted forest.

celest heron
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ahh, forgot the ranks reset

analog salmon
slow walrus
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the armor hall performs even worse than it did last season

zealous panther
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i wonder how popular this mode will be in a few weeks.

ivory glacier
#

I lost my chimera core and got a new stock chimera core

solid ingot
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You should still have your customization options

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You just have to reapply them

ivory glacier
#

I still haven’t seen any new maps though. Kinda bummed about that

ruby knoll
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woo, new infection is pretty good

silk sinew
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Noticed certain items you can buy even though they aren’t in the store has that always been a thing?

novel basalt
ruby knoll
drifting dome
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Lol the playlist menu isnt even showing for me

sour marlin
#

Anyone else dealing with crashes right now in season 4?

drifting dome
slow walrus
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haven't crashed since the first day of season 3

novel basalt
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My game has seizures, usually during the "Loading mode... %" screen.

left snow
left snow
true epoch
#

I realised it today that they killed the waypoint app😂😂😂

sleek hatch
limpid saffron
solid canopy
#

Maybe I'm in the minority here, but does anyone else prefer how the Hydra looks in 5 over Infinite?

open umbra
fierce sundial
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behemoth sucks for infection

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too open

celest heron
#

maybe it's just me, but the aiming feels a little off. I've dealt with this for two years and recently 'fixed' it, but now it's not feeling like the fixed version and it's also showing in my stats again. I'm going a lot more negative in games which is how it's been before. Could just be head casing, but idk

stone star
#

<gets on to check out the new Infection
<not enough players to estimate a wait time
<waits in matchmaking for like 10 minutes
<leaves
The Halo Infinite experience at its finest

sullen anvil
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Oof yeah, not a whole lot of players in that region.

slow walrus
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I've been getting games back to back

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feel like that message must be bugged because there's definitely players

stone star
sullen anvil
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I noticed that Brood had the Oceania role tho

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are you in a fireteam with US or EU players?

slow walrus
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queuing solo

sullen anvil
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Did you just start playing?

stone star
slow walrus
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local

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thanks for the interview fellas

sullen anvil
#

usually matchmaking starts to slow down because it tries to find more players that match ur skill level

stone star
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Well my skill level is relatively high I'd say

sullen anvil
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Yeah that’s the issue

stone star
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I usually top frag on my team

sullen anvil
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can’t find a balanced game

stone star
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Damn I'm just too skilled to play the game

slow walrus
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that's not how it works outside of ranked, in socal modes the matchmaking only takes skill into account when distributing teams

sullen anvil
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Yeah mmr is kind of a pain. It’s really strict and makes the game unplayable

stone star
slow walrus
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yeah that's why I said I think it's bugged

sullen anvil
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Brood id maybe suggest looking for someone here that’s in a more populated region and queue up with them if u wanna play more matches

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ping might be an issue though

stone star
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I'll just wait

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Best time to play the game here is like 2 hours from now when people get home from work and school

slow walrus
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maybe try going expanded to test anyway and if you still can't find games it could be a network issue

sullen anvil
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it’s a population issue

stone star
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or I could just play another game

sullen anvil
#

that too lol

open umbra
#

They should add a MMR matchmaking toggle for those who just want to have a casual ("skill unbalanced") match if they're able to disable the MMR as a factor for matchmaking.

sullen anvil
#

I think that was a thing in Reach

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you could choose if you wanted to prioritize skilled players or not

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which I think is a really really good idea and I’m so upset it’s never been a thing again since

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It would be nice to be able to play Halo casually lol. I legit can’t play MCC anymore because every single match I’ve been getting has been the worse experience ever

open umbra
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Also, just tie the MMR to each game mode and being independent to each other (right now is the playlist) rather than the entire game like the CSR in MCC ranked playlists. Although it may take longer to balance, at least high skill players will be able to get more matches than getting stuck in the menu screen waiting for matches from the get go.

sullen anvil
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I just wish I didn’t have to play out of my mind to at least partake in a game

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One thing I would like to see addressed is the MP splitscreen inconsistencies. Some playlists allow up to 4 local, however, others only allow up to 2 or even none at all

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Really hoping this gets fixed at some point

open umbra
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Just curious, will unyshek and ske7ch take these "feedback and demand" to the development team for future consideration?

sullen anvil
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I think they already have enough on their plate rn

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I’m sure it’s written on a whiteboard somewhere but not a priority at all

left snow
crystal iron
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Most modes are dead for aus players so you’re stuck to quick play, btb and now infection

sullen anvil
#

and all of these filters wouldn’t work so well because of low populations

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also I know it’s not as needed but I would really really like a population counter displayed in the multiplayer menu that shows how many players are online and playing a specific playlist across xbox and pc

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a light map would be cool too, displaying a world map littered with dots that shows who’s online in the world

celest heron
#

first game of ranked Slayer and I'm playing against 2 onyx's and it's a lopsided game. that's cool. great matching

fierce island
#

Whoever is responsible for this Social Slayer playlist deserves a raise, this is the most fun I've had in a Halo game since Halo 3, it also does a great job showing off one of the best parts of this game, the grapple hook. That item alone makes every single map fun! Please don't get rid of this playlist, the less we are forced to play objective based modes, the better!

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The new maps are really well made too, good stuff 343

ruby knoll
hollow bobcat
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I've said this before, but I still hate the long respawn timers. 8 seconds in non-ranked is abysmal. It's boring to wait that long to get back into the game and it makes taking an objective too easy.

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5 seconds or less is acceptable. If it is SWAT, maybe 3 seconds. Big team battle, maybe 6 seconds or so.

undone sluice
#

is the halo infinite LASO achievement (headhunter) still busted?

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I have done 2 runs previously and didn't get it

slow walrus
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they added an indicator to missions completed in legendary difficulty this update

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may as well check your old saves and see if you need to replay any

undone sluice
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I deleted my original LASO saves at the time because I didn't have a spare slot

chilly solstice
#

Is there a playlist with the new arena map in it? Been playing for 3 hours of infection, social slayer, and ranked...

undone sluice
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should just pop up

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I have only had it twice today

crystal iron
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We just can’t find games at all

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At least not unless it’s quick play

open umbra
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For me (in east Asia), I need to be in certain time (about 6p.m. ~ 1a.m.) in order to match with others using expand option. Otherwise, except for featured playlist and quick play, I'm not able to find any match.(my skill level is below average)

glacial tartan
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This has been an issue for a while, no? I’ve seen players outside the US complain they have to use a VPN to be able to search - or pair with someone in the NA/Europe regions.

crystal iron
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Yep

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Low population means we’re resorting to other methods to get games; first it was the geofiltering and now vpns

stone star
hollow bobcat
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VPNs are generally used by people who want easy lobbies.

slow walrus
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generally ruining your ping and increasing packet loss would make your games harder

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I'd say they're more used by people who live in low population areas and just want to experience the game

stone star
#

this infection is kinda, meh I guess

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the low ammount of ammunition you get in every weapon feels like it's incentivising banding together to survive

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which for me is the worst way to play infection

sleek hatch
#

How were you supposed to get the Athlon helmet for mirage?

stone star
#

I find infection most fun when I'm running around the map holding off the zombies myself

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seeing how long I can last

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I can kinda do that but it doesn't look like my allies drop their ammo

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once I use my 6 shotgun shells that's it

sleek hatch
slow walrus
#

your teammates do drop ammo as well

sleek hatch
#

If you get a max ammo on commando it's ez mode.

stone star
slow walrus
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it'll likely be used for the midseason HSC bundle

stone star
#

maybe it was just the map

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cause I couldn't find any weapon crates on the forerunner bridge map

left snow
crystal iron
#

I put in a ticket about unbalanced matches in tactical slayer and the support rep said they forwarded my issue with ranked arena to the devs. Very helpful halo support, thank you.

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Hey your guess is as good as mine

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I’m just theorizing

slow walrus
#

using a vpn wouldn't ruin the experience of other players. depending on the severity, if your client is desynced and you were shooting at an enemy, from the perspective of the server you could be totally vulnerable while shooting into empty space or getting stuck on a wall

sleek hatch
gleaming zephyr
#

Does anyone know the new infection team references, for script purposes. It appears last man standing is on team eagle. But the rest is up in the air it seems like it's FFA. Most my infection maps can't be used with the new gametype because, I'm relying on eagle and cobra team checks

crystal iron
devout kite
#

Who else feels like the alpha zombie needs a nerf like no camo while crouching

spark ibex
#

but just holding the stick to the left or the right i saw some skipping

analog salmon
#

any time you come back to this game after taking a break the aim feels off

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especially noticeable in ranked because it can take weeks to get back to where you were

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that said i feel like MCC nailed the aim system and every other first person shooter feels off with controller

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but your aim matters a lot in Halo Infinite so the phase of relearning its aim system is much harder then other games i find

wintry harness
devout kite
wintry harness
#

I was really confused for a while honestly. I knew I had seen other alphas with camo while moving around without sliding, but it never occurred to me to try crouching

spark ibex
misty vale
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Yeah they keep adjusting the aim assist values on MNK

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a few patches ago sniping was 2ez

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now it feels pretty rewarding

analog salmon
analog salmon
#

I'm considering just capping my fps 10-20% below my low and see if it makes things more consistent

spark ibex
#

yeah im on pc

analog salmon
#

I often have best results using the global framerate limiter in AMD's software, i forget now if Nvidia has the same thing

spark ibex
#

its a few years old too so i figured this might have just been the update that makes my comp not be able to handle it

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i'm not smart enough for the pc specs stuff, i always just let the settings autoload (with minimal tinkering in vsync and framerate at the behest of each situation)

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ill try setting everything to low if it's not already

analog salmon
#

for most games turning off vsync and gsync/freesync and setting your refresh rate as high as it goes is best

misty vale
analog salmon
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but you also dont wanna be CPU limited and if you have to cap, I think gsync/freesync is the lowest latency option

spark ibex
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oh yeah the sim and animations are tied to the desync stuff right? and it helps having it on high

analog salmon
#

i cant hit above my refresh rate though

misty vale
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Then put minimum fps to your refresh rate

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and let the image scaler do it's business.