halo-discussion

[devout kite]

343 ruined btb

Nobody asked or wanted btb heavy to make a return in the normal rotation

[analog salmon]

search "heavies" and have a scroll

pretty obvious a lot of people do in fact want it to make a return

[bleak nymph]

Heavies is easily the best iteration of BTB. Don't even.

[devout kite]

By having btb heavies in the rotation they made longer wait times

[coarse dagger]

https://aka.ms/ForgeUpdatesS4

[eternal lion]

RP team not knowing the Summer Game Fest dope

[coarse dagger]

?

[eternal lion]

its the Summer Game Fest today. Not great to post something at this time.

[signal ivy]

it's just an article

also I had no idea it's the summer game fest lol

[eternal lion]

yeah but RP team must know it exist XD its their job to know events like that ^^

[signal ivy]

I don't think I understand

they shouldn't release an article because a select few are watching something on youtube?

[eternal lion]

"a select few" XD Its like E3

[signal ivy]

had no clue it was today

[coarse dagger]

Or, it's a great time to announce it because it will be picked up and reported on along with other big game announcements

[eternal lion]

1 M on Twitch

[eternal lion]

sure 🫡

[signal ivy]

I'm sure everything will be ok lol

[ruby knoll]

Very common 343 W

[analog salmon]

impressive how the shadows work on the water surface

[eternal lion]

Infinite was there ^^

[analog salmon]

doesnt look forged at all

[open umbra]

The Xbox showcase is scheduled for June 11th, Sunday.
I don't think 343 will have any appearance today.

Hold up...generic ball? Does that mean Assault/Grifball will come in S4 or being almost finished in the development?

[analog salmon]

probably

🙏

i feel like if there's a supprise mode its more likely to be VIP though

but Assault S5 perhaps

[open umbra]

But its the H5 ball though, it may not have the huge explosion after each deployment.

[analog salmon]

if i had to guess right now its just a prop with the same properties as the skull

i dont think they would include a ball/bomb with unique throwing properties before assault/griftball is out

though the way they say "hurling a ball" maybe it can be thrown

[open umbra]

At least we are able to create those game modes in custom games with scripts. (maybe also the Headhunter mode in Reach)

[analog salmon]

yah it seems like it

I miss BTB Assault a ton

[open umbra]

The Invasion mode can also be somewhat recreated with the ball as the bomb and the flag as the final object. (Although it won't be elites but just spartans)

[primal jay]

why am i so good at halo 5 but bad at infinite

[misty vale]

BTB Heavies is 1000-1500% better than regular BTB.

[misty vale]

you should blame your teammates lol

[devout kite]

Bruh btb heavies shouldn’t be in the rotation with normal btb

[primal jay]

oh...

[misty vale]

You're right. They should make btb heavies the default

[devout kite]

No remove btb heavies and make it own separate mode

[thin elm]

wait so still no banished ai?

[signal ivy]

we have a banished AI

[coarse dagger]

[devout kite]

I guess you didn’t play season two where we got a banished AI

Speaking of AI are we getting a new one next season?

[limpid lance]

You have any hopes we’ll see anything Halo during the showcase on Sunday?

[magic night]

What would they show?

A trailer for Season 4?

[ivory glacier]

4 matches in a row getting the pit between slayer and quick play. I don’t feel bad anymore for leaving a game

[open umbra]

Keeping the expectation as low as possible.

[wide trout]

Possible campaign DLC? who knows, really

[open umbra]

Watch the show
=> organize the news/info we get
=> make up some ideas that strikes the balance between the demands and their actual workload which means they'll have some compromises.
=> discuss them here
=> share them with the devs alongside the actual demands and concerns in the next spartan chatter, also ask for the updates on certain features weren't told during the show/in the blog. (Though this might be difficult for me because of the time zone)

[analog salmon]

lucky, pit is GOAT

Pit and Starboard are actually carrying Ranked hard rn until Plaza

[ivory glacier]

But I don’t want 4 in a row of any map. But you’re right, could be worse

[analog salmon]

could be detachment

[celest heron]

played my first game on the Series X and my controller settings were the same as my Xb1, but it actually feels slower like where it should be. wth

[analog salmon]

i've heard others say the sense is somehow tied to framerate

but glad to hear it feels better with Series X

[open umbra]

Bump from 30 to 120 fps, that will feel a lot different. (I'm still using my xb1 though)

[analog salmon]

even 30 to 60 is huge tbh

[celest heron]

this entire time I've been playing like butt and it's likely cause of that. F Now I have to readjust the settings to get it more in tune.

[analog salmon]

yeah honestly if you play this game a ton you need at minimum a One X, Series S, or entry level gaming PC

game is just too fast pace for 30

i sold my One S for a One X right before this game came out, which worked out really well since the One S has dropped in value while the One X is holding

then i bought a Series X and upgraded my PC cause i have no financial sense

[limpid lance]

At this point, I’m pretty certain campaign DLC is never coming, and we just have to wait until the next game

[wide trout]

What makes you say that?

[open umbra]

The layoff?

[limpid lance]

The massive campaign layoffs and them not mentioning campaign in basically the past year
At this point, the notion of Infinite being a 10-year platform is long gone, and my best guess is the next main game releases by 2027 if we’re lucky

[open umbra]

At this point I'd rather expect them doing something like spartan ops than the actual campaign dlc. (after releasing some pve mode of course)

[limpid lance]

I’m thinking 2027 cause if things begin to recover, the hiring freeze ends next year and 343 is able to hire on devs so they can begin work on the next game, but if the freeze doesn’t end in 2024, than who knows if there’ll even be a next game at that rate

[celest heron]

I can strafe and aim now. 😭

[open umbra]

Nice one, keep it up.

[open umbra]

And I already wrote the wishlist on that in the ideas tab.

[analog salmon]

i wanna see a DLC because i wanna actually see improvements to Infinite's campaign, and a DLC is really the only way they will go back and "enhance" infinite

[open umbra]

Also more lore on the Xalanyn (Endless), and the state of other crewmen aboarded the Infinity like Captain Lasky

[limpid lance]

Don’t wanna be a buzzkill, but any chance of DLC happening is just dead

[analog salmon]

i mean its really a matter of the timeline

[wide trout]

Don't be such a debbie downer

[novel basalt]

I mean, they already greenlit a season 2 of the TV series (despite its poor reception), so they probably already greenlit a DLC for the campaign.

[wide trout]

Those are two entirely separate teams

[limpid lance]

Really just expecting campaign content, with the next game

[novel basalt]

Yes, but it's still executives giving the go-ahead.

All about that marketing hype.

[analog salmon]

Sketch made a comment that he couldnt see their not being future halo stories told in campaign or similar

which means its pretty much confirmed nothing is planned

[wide trout]

Thats quite the presumption

[open umbra]

Just hope they aren't going to abandon the narrative and put it in the books... again.

[analog salmon]

i wouldnt say so, sketch isn't the kind of guy who would say something like that without knowing how it would be read

[novel basalt]

Better yet, they should do the whole "it was all just a dream" thing with the next game, and the events of that game take place directly after Halo 3 (or 4).

[analog salmon]

it seemed to me like a very frank and honest statement

[limpid lance]

With the campaign team let go, and Microsoft on a hiring freeze, DLC isn’t happening any time soon, if it ever was or will be
The best hope we can expect for a campaign in a game for the foreseeable future is in some kinda spin-off by a different studio

[novel basalt]

Halo Spartan Assault 2. lol

[analog salmon]

but if XGS/Microsoft so choose, a Halo campaign not too far off in the future could come as DLC. But if its not for another 4-5 years then Infinite's engine will need to have a lot of improvements for DLC to be viable

[wide trout]

I didn't know you had done so much with the engine to know that

[analog salmon]

im just talking how games will develop in thee next 5 years

[dull barn]

Bruh I am downloading Halo Infinite and I went from 43.6mb/s to 200 kb/s 😦

help

[analog salmon]

i dont see 343 releasing a game in 5 years time that's technically on par with Infinite currently

[open umbra]

Rather see the arbiter's perspective on the blooding years

[novel basalt]

I mean, their engine is clearly spaghetti code given how much the developers seem to have issues with it.

[analog salmon]

of course they still have plenty of engineers who are likely working on improving the engine and things like ray tracing are promising developments

[wide trout]

Every engine has issues

Ask anyone who has used Unity

[analog salmon]

I could see them sticking with Slipspace but I just think 5 years of progress would mean letting Infinite go and building a new game, new engine or not

[open umbra]

Isn't the ray tracing just for the shadows which was already being implemented?

[limpid lance]

At this rate, I’m guessing the next game will be the launch title for the next Xbox console 😅😞

[wide trout]

Yeah?

What do you mean exactly

[open umbra]

Sorry, I was responding to Recon

[analog salmon]

Im just saying its a promising development

[crystal iron]

It will release two years after Xbox Two releases in 2036

So 2038

[analog salmon]

and if there's still engineers at 343 with expertise in that kind of thing, no doubt they will still be put to good use

[novel basalt]

Yes, but if simply taking a mode out of a BTB playlist rotation breaks the game, I think it's time to move onto a different engine.

(By the way, that issue still hasn't been fixed.)

[analog salmon]

it wasn't technical, it was breaking Xbox rules on achievements being made unattainable

[limpid lance]

Halo: The Endless Pain

[wide trout]

I dont think you understand

Moving to a new engine would mean rebuilding the entire game in said engine

Its simply not a viable solution

[crystal iron]

Halo: A Weapon To Surpass Metal Gear
A UbiSoft Original

[tulip vortex]

I think I speak for everyone when I say that I would rather have a rebuild than whatever this is

[wide trout]

You do not speak for everyone

[tulip vortex]

Neither do you, dont act all high and mighty

[novel basalt]

Metal Gear put the nail in its own coffin with Survive (and Kojima's exit).

[tulip vortex]

I just want a good game, the fact that I consistently get shot though walls is rediculous

[crystal iron]

Its coming back bro

We got the old games coming to modern hardware 🙏

[wide trout]

I'm speaking as someone who understands game development and who has taken several classes on it in several different engines

[analog salmon]

I mean you objectively dont speak for everyone Devial because I am still routing for slipspace to get fixed up. Halo 5 was a solid game technically even if it was a pain to develop with old tools and i hope they can get Infinite to that level of quality and keep modernising the tools

[tulip vortex]

I'm speaking as someone who has created multiple webpages, done server interfacing, and has a background in Mechanical engineering and digital art/animation

I am very aware what changing engines entale

[tulip vortex]

You do know its the same engine right? Just a new coat of paint

[analog salmon]

being able to make a "web page" is slightly above knowing how to use a word processor

[crystal iron]

I programmed a game in Scratch 3. I know engines VERY well

[wide trout]

He's got you there devial

lol

[tulip vortex]

I program enginering simulations

I dont do webpages anymore

[analog salmon]

its just a bit of a weird flex ngl

[tulip vortex]

Id say engineering simulations are a little more advanced

[analog salmon]

you probs should have just said that, would have sounded more impressive

[wide trout]

It's not about "advanced" since they cant even be compared

[crystal iron]

Did you graduate top of your class in the navy seals, by any chance?

[wide trout]

Unless you are doing the sim in a game engine, its completely different

[tulip vortex]

Yes, I have over 500 confirmed kills

[novel basalt]

I meant for them to move onto a new engine for the next game they develop. I'm saying they shouldn't use Slipspace for any future content and just move any planned content like campaign or whatnot to the new game they have planned on a new engine.

[tulip vortex]

They're very much related, the same principles of engine simulation apply.

If I didn't know what I do, how would I be able to simulate master chiefs "assets"

[limpid lance]

Infinite ofc won’t be rebuilt on UE, or Unity, but I do think there’s truth to Jason Schreier’s report from earlier in the year that future titles will be on UE

[analog salmon]

anyway we're going off track back to this yes I realise its a evolution like they said themselves. but Halo 5 was a solid game so if anything this is an argument against slipspace being unfeasible for developing technically impressive and solid games

[novel basalt]

I hope it's good, but personally I find it hard to get hyped for a company that treats its employees like trash.

[tulip vortex]

Idk why people say its comming back

Gundam Battle Operation 2 has 5 times the player count and didnt even have functioning multiplayer for a week

[crystal iron]

They're making old classics available and generating attention for the franchise, I'm happy for that

[novel basalt]

Oh, so they're doing a Nintendo. lol

[crystal iron]

I'm not gonna complain if they do a Nintendo but pull it off

It's always better to have older titles re-released than to rely on emulation, imo

Just makes it easier and more accessible for most people, which is definitely a good thing

[novel basalt]

They should just do what Capcom's been doing with Resident Evil and make remasters of their older games.

[crystal iron]

Those are remakes, first of all

And they're doing that with Snake Eater

Apparently with more in the future as well

[novel basalt]

I remember playing that on the 3DS. lol

[white birch]

Wouldnt entirely 100% say no to a CE remake though.

[celest heron]

kind of over remakes at this point.

[novel basalt]

I doubt that would happen. Point: MCC's existence.

[livid fable]

?

You said you speak for everyone. That's obviously false. Not sure why you'd say it. Figure of speech? Weird if so.

[limpid lance]

If they ever reboot the series, yeah I’d be ok with a remake of CE in the vein of Dead Space and RE4

[white birch]

Exactly my thoughts.
Same basic plot and events but with FAR improved gameplay and graphics and AI.

[limpid lance]

For example, I love CE to death, but for a remake, I wouldn't have the 2nd half be the 1st half in reverse, would be its own unique set of missions

[white birch]

Having the squad command mechanics and weapon swap capabilities would rule too

[limpid lance]

I would have dual wielding, hijacking, and equipment in there from the get-go

[green prawn]

I think its a bit unfoundate that 345 industry did not continue to use the slipspace engine

It seemed as such a good thing hehe

[novel basalt]

343's got bigger problems than their engine, tbh.

Desync, namely.

It feels like a lot of online multiplayer games have just regressed in terms of latency and desync.

[quaint kernel]

Quality as well.

The new Gundam game's been getting bad reviews for that kind of stuff as well.

[novel basalt]

I mean even established franchises that have had better online latency and desync in OLDER iterations.

E.g. Halo, Smash, etc..

[quaint kernel]

Eh... Nintendo's Online is pretty hit or miss.

It is odd how latency seems to be getting worse though.

[novel basalt]

Nintendo Online, Xbox Live, etc. have nothing to do with latency or desync.

I guess I should have just said netcode.

Netcode is what seems to be getting worse with franchises, like the ones I mentioned.

[quaint kernel]

My bad. I sometimes forget the difference.

[novel basalt]

I guess netcode was another aspect of MCC that 343 blatantly ignored when developing Infinite.

[quaint kernel]

Yeah... 😬

[ruby knoll]

UE5 bad

[full warren]

Going 33 kils in a slayer and still lossing... this is the pinnacle of match making

[fallen flame]

well lately i've found tons of new players that's probably whats happening

always seeing people in the default stuff

[full warren]

drop into a 20/10 game and got 20 kilsl only to lose because it was already 10 kills down so stupid

if it was 0/0 we woudl easily won

Its things like this make makes me think match making is focing you to lose, it might try to make even matches but I bet its not 50/50 they will give one team an advantage like 55/45% and just let one team win

6 lose in a row, lets see how long before mm decide I lost enough so I can win again... so fun, literally being controlled by a algorithm

😄 its so funny now it let me win because it gave me a 4v3, this flip flop win lose win lose is so simple you can almost predict it before the game start I can see if I am going to win or lose

[open umbra]

Still wondering why they didn't bring the universal melee damage back up to the original version, since the weapon racks in ranked will change to red racks after the weapon being picked up, which means the Mangler issues in ranked was solved back in February.
Am I missing something here?

[analog salmon]

because balance matters in social too?

[open umbra]

Yes, but back in S1, the Mangler's one shot one tap is only be criticized in the competitive side. Yet the competitive players didn't really want it to be nerfed, just reduce the opportunities to get one if my memory serves correctly.

[analog salmon]

i mean it had exactly the same problem in both social and ranked

red pads probably wouldnt have fixed it, and red pads arent in social for mangler

it would basically need to be on a bulldog pad

[open umbra]

So its still needs to be moved to a tier two rack if they want it to have that one shot one slap feature, well that makes a lot of sense now. Thanks.

[analog salmon]

yeah i think that is really the only alternative really. But they could have always just nerfed only the mangler's melee so I think they just decided a universal melee nerf was worth testing and probably feel its better

I just think the BR should have the 10% melee buff in social honestly

probs commando too

whereas the AR and the sidekick were probably too OP pre-nerf

or maybe just give all non-bladed weapons a 5% melee buff to bring them closer to pre-nerf, while leaving the bladed weapons as is

[final raptor]

I noticed something about the rotationals. Every time they come back they are different/better. What if the plan is to bring them back permanently once they come close to perfection?

[magic night]

That might happen if people consistently play those playlists. If playlist population dies down, then they'll keep rotating, or stop entirely if turnout is very poor.

[final raptor]

Ughhhh it’s a double curse/benefit. People won’t play because the lack of playlists. Yet more playlists might not bring in as much as they want. They need something BIG to bring a large portion of people back. Guess theyre waiting til lots more is there before doing so.

[inland minnow]

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[white birch]

Wearing the Shockbrace or the shock-knuckle attachments on Mirage and Rakshasa respectively should give you like, 2% bonus damage on melee cause thats what they canonically do

[shadow turret]

Shockbrace canonically does some kinda of mental damage when a Grappleshot hits it
Its not used for melee

[white birch]

Mental damage?
Oh you mean the neurological shock. Yeah, that.

[shadow turret]

Yea

I frogot what it actually said

[white birch]

What that actually means is that "in grappling" (IE; an opponent attempting to get in really close and peel your armor off), the shockbrace hits the targets flesh and causes a nerve disruption rather than a physical damage strike.

[shadow turret]

Ah

[white birch]

Its basically the same as one of the shock-sticks from Star Wars; its not actually electricity, its causing your nerves to feel pain that isnt there.

[shadow turret]

I clearly can't read sometimes lol

[white birch]

Its basically a small wrist mounted version of the Imperial Fists holy Pain Glove

Its fine, all of the flavor text gets covered up in psudo-military jumbo a lot

[shadow turret]

I can sometimes read around it, but other times not

Also
Liteknuckle has mounting brackets for shock knuckle attachments
It doesn't neciccarily have shock knuckles normally

[white birch]

Im hoping those come later as extra cosmetic addons

[shadow turret]

That would be cool
To have like glove attatchments and stuff

[white birch]

Backpacks too

[shadow turret]

Yea

only thing that has close to a backpack is Mirage
Since the TAC/Multimax, and Infinity Rig have back plates

[glacial tartan]

Only 29 more weeks until the Grunt Backpack rotates back into MCC! Mark your calendars!

[devout kite]

Is it me or btb heavies needs it own playlist instead of mixing it with normal btb

[wide trout]

Some people have been complaining about that

Personally I like it but I understand the complaints

We'll see what 343 does

[rugged walrus]

Wait
Ain't today the release of season 4?

[shadow turret]

11 more days

[rugged walrus]

Alright
Thank you
Thought it was today

[sullen kiln]

Season 4 launches on <t:1687284000:F> which is <t:1687284000:R>

[crystal iron]

Unless there will be a new content update…

[glacial tartan]

Like I said...

[solid canopy]

While I don't care for the changes made to the Elites and Grunts, I really did love the look of the Covenant in Halo 5, and it does bum me out that those designs have been relegated to that game

The design of the weapons and vehicles were excellent

The Carbine in particular is one of my favorites

[coarse mauve]

Does anyone else find Halo Infinite unresponsive to rapid input? Like If I try melee and then throw a grenade in a split second, I would only melee and not throw the grenade

[celest heron]

One thing I noticed with the series x is that scrolling down the main menu options gives the words a double looking effect. Like when something is blurry and you see two of it. Don't know the official term.

[edgy brook]

Yo can anybody help me with my game

I am having problems

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[magic night]

You might need to recalibrate your TV and console video settings for that

[fallen flame]

Ghosting ?

[celest heron]

yeah that's it

[analog salmon]

make sure your TV isn't adding motion blur or anything

but i mean you would notice it in other games so idk

[celest heron]

I don't think it is. It's also fairly old, lol.

[novel basalt]

Calling it an "algorithm" is giving it too much credit. I'd say it's more like a subpar script.

[lime robin]

Aw, this foilage bug is still in HW2

It's never going to be fixed, is it? 🥲

[novel basalt]

Has 343 fixed the infinite loading bug?

Never mind.

[celest heron]

new mcc monthlies are up

[sullen anvil]

is there any way to save background changes in MCC? I continue to customize the main menu and how it looks but the background video keeps defaulting back

[analog salmon]

its a bug on Xbox

affects some settings as well

its not on the known issues list but for me it happens at the same time as:

On Xbox consoles, mouse and keyboard settings revert to their default values when Halo: The Master Chief Collection is closed then re-opened.

so maybe it will be fixed in the upcoming update, if not i'll probs file a ticket

[sullen anvil]

That would be appreciated

btw sort of a big favor but in Halo Reach’s forge and onward: I’d like the monitor to be able to phase through only player placed objects and structures. Would make thinks a lot more easier. The monitor would not be able to phase through terrain of course.

[ionic escarp]

Anyone here wanna play MCC with mods?

[sullen kiln]

If you're looking for other Spartans to join you in battle, check out our LFGs:

#lfg-competitive – For ranked/competitive matchmaking
#lfg-social – For social/casual matchmaking
#lfg-campaign - For campaign co-op
#lfg-forge - For map/mode building and testing
#lfg-customs - For custom games
#lfg-other – For firefight, spartan ops, etc
#lfg-español – Para jugadores hispanohablantes en cualquier categoría de juego
#lfg-hcs-scrims-or-teams – To help you find a team or secure some scrims

Don't forget to check out #lfg-and-voice-chat to learn about the !lfg bot, how to use it, and how to create your own voice channels.

[olive umbra]

Hey, I'm down. What mods you wanna run? I've got a mic and I'll be up for a bit so just let me know.

[ionic escarp]

Halo 1 or something. Join me in VC

[olive umbra]

alright

[hidden scaffold]

Please fix JIP

4 VS 1 everygame

Why are people not competent

[olive brook]

mcc having a stroke?

the game is taking like years to load

[celest heron]

have you already tried restarting?

[hidden scaffold]

Why do people join a game knowing they are not available

And then leave the second a game starts

[celest heron]

maybe auto search

[onyx latch]

Because life happens.

[olive brook]

yeah multiple times but it still takes years to load

might be some microsoft tomfoolery going on cause i couldnt acces their website earlier today

[lime robin]

This bug would seem like sort of cheating, wouldn't it?

[earnest thunder]

When is the best time to find swat matches in halo 5?

[devout kite]

Do people still play halo 5

[crystal iron]

Yeah

[olive brook]

i want to play halo 5 so bad but no pc port 😢

gameplay looks absolutely amazing

[sullen anvil]

its highly recommended that you DONT put a paper shredder in place of a graphics card.

[analog salmon]

halo 5 forge seems to be dead but i wonder if there's a community that have game nights or anything

i would try it out if i could up the fov and unlock the framerate

[novel basalt]

Vertex explosion is typically a game-related issue, not a GPU issue.

Everything else in the screenshot looks fine graphically, so I don't think it's the GPU.

[dense onyx]

QUESTION:
Can Halo Infinite have cross-play Campaign Co-Op?
I have campaign on Xbox, but my friend just bought it today on Steam.

[vapid marten]

yes

[dense onyx]

Awesome... I remmeber that it didn't at one time

[vapid marten]

Co-Op was implemented some time ago.

Not available at release, so maybe that's what you remember

[dense onyx]

yeah

[vapid marten]

other than that it's always been crossplay

[dense onyx]

good. thanks for the confirmation

[crude gust]

Double XP boost not working today? played 2 games back to back and no boost exp. boost shows active
daily didnt even give double exp

[sullen anvil]

I really want changeable skyboxes back

I know you can change the time of day now and such but I want to be able to put a halo ring on institute or something

[low musk]

So are they making any notable changes to the shotgun for Infinite when Infection hits? Kinda feels wrong otherwise to use the Bulldog

[slow walrus]

not that they've announced yet

I've played some infection in customs since the winter update and didn't think anything was wrong with the bulldog

I guess it's possible that they'll add a variant that feels more like the classic shotgun similar to the BR variant used in Ranked, but we'll just have to wait

though I wouldn't be surprised if they don't change anything tbh

[low musk]

That’s a bit sad. The whole Magnum/BR/Shotgun was always a staple of the game type. Maybe one day

[left snow]

People played / watched Infection at Dallas last weekend. I haven't seen a lot of complaints online. Only a small subset though.

[low musk]

I’d still give it a shot. It’s not like it would really cost me anything xD

[wraith willow]

can you disable motion blur on Xbox MCC? mainly for Halo 3

[fallen flame]

don't think you can

[wraith willow]

ah, sad

it's been a while since i've played it, but all i hope is that it isn't as bad as 360 Reach's

[devout kite]

343 needs to remove btb heavies from the playlist and make it owns playlist

[limpid lance]

Over or under 50% we see anything Halo related today?

Aside from season 4 stuff, I’m at basically 0%

[coarse dagger]

I don't expect to see anything Halo related today

[analog salmon]

there is no motion blur in mcc, reach or otherwise

[devout kite]

I’m surprised that we haven’t saw anything related to season 4 today

[iron sierra]

does nobody play snipers on mmc anymore?

[celest heron]

I just played a snipers game last night, but probly got lucky

[devout kite]

I’m guessing we’re going to the season 4 trailer sometime this week

[tepid latch]

must be right!? there's not long to go 👀

[devout kite]

I believe the only thing 343 have to do is show us the trailer and the BP

[tepid latch]

we still havent seen official gameplay of Infection or the new Hazmat core 😭

just that dr Squatch ad and some promo images for infection

[devout kite]

Infection was playable during HCS

[tepid latch]

Ik, but thats still not an official overview of the mode itself

[ancient briar]

It’s weird that they didn’t show anything for Halo today

[tepid latch]

Idk, i think there's still a significant amount of things to actually dive into before season 4s release, would be awesome to get a sitdown video of them going into all the new things coming

[wraith willow]

oh nice

[novel basalt]

Yeah. So far, I'm only aware of infection, career ranks... and that's about it.

[tepid latch]

also, Three other live service games were shown? and theres only 8 days til s4 😭 surelyyyy we get something this week

[wooden oak]

Okay, I came here for one thing because I'd like an official answer.

I am Female, and I am planning to throw together a cosplay. Of a Jiralhanaea Warlord. Obviously up until now I don't think we've ever seen an official female Brute. So I wanted to ask on the official halo discord what I should do for design.

[rugged quartz]

We don’t know what the differences are

Honestly it can be up to your own interpretation. They’re not mammals however so.

Maybe like a brute but smaller and no beard?

Or maybe female brutes do have beards but are smaller ?

[wooden oak]

Maybe. I think long like... dreadlock braids could be cool

[rugged quartz]

Sure

[wooden oak]

As for the armor not sure how to accentuate female brute but wider hips and a triangulated plate on the front might do

[crystal iron]

Hey

Just joined this server to say

[wraith willow]

what was he cooking?

[tepid latch]

hmmm must be a slow cooker

[devout kite]

He probably forgot what he was cooking lol

[sullen anvil]

I still think only giving out career xp in multiplayer was the wrong move. I think players should be rewarded by playing Halo in any form they want. Campaign, Forge, and Customs should give out XP, just not as much as MP though

[smoky wave]

I kinda see why not on campaign but not customs/forge sure is a wild decision

[sullen anvil]

Why not get xp for campaign?? Get xp from mission completion, collectables, fobs, and it fluctuates based on difficulty

of course have the xp dish out fairly low so it can’t be farmed

But at least give something back for putting time into Infinite in general and reward the player with the way they play

[crystal iron]

Didn’t Reach do that?

[signal ivy]

barely

it was a very very very small amount

[knotty haven]

Pve challenges will give a lot

[devout kite]

I remember when 343 let the community made their own challenges and people used to farm the heck out of it

[tepid latch]

PvE is so exciting! with forge AI being worked on theres just to many more things creators will be able to do!

Im more interested in PvE than anything else really, i might have to try make my own stuff when it comes out

[analog salmon]

Just witnessed a 7 stack quit against another 7 stack in MCC

Never been so confused

[devout kite]

Is it me or I hate when I have to carry my team in stockpile

[eternal gorge]

if i were to hazard a guess regarding halo (this is not based on anything, just purely a guess), the franchise is going to be going relatively quiet for awhile, Infinite will still do its thing, and we will get new EU related stuff every now and then, but i don't think anything significant is going to happen for awhile

[tepid latch]

tv show s2 is in post now i think unless thats what you meant by EU? but yeah ig so? Halo has never been one to do anything huge outside of their main game tho right?

ive always seen it as big game release, focus on that game and maybe some books for a few years and then release the next game

Halo Infinite, i imagine, will be a little longer between the next game however with most of their team focussed on the MP, but we're still getting narrative through that

[brisk ibex]

Did something happen to the Halo Reddit community? It seemed to have disappeared

[tepid latch]

is it on strike for the reddit api stuff

Yeah going to it on desktop tells you

"Through June 14, r/Halo will be closed for everyone along with thousands of other subreddits to protest [Reddit's upcoming API changes that will affect apps, users, and mods]"

(https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/5/23749188/reddit-subreddit-private-protest-api-changes-apollo-charges)

[brisk ibex]

Ooh I see, thank you!

[iron sierra]

do people only play infection on reach

i cant seem to find anything on the other games

[glacial tartan]

Not "only" but I would say a majority of games I get Infection are Reach

[iron sierra]

alright

[crystal iron]

Does anyone still play infinite at all?

[crystal iron]

Yes. A lot of people actually

[grim citrus]

Lol

[shrewd aspen]

Yes

[devout kite]

Yes

[ruby knoll]

Plenty

[earnest thunder]

Yes quite a bit actually

[analog salmon]

me so at least 1

😄

[sullen anvil]

Would it be possible for H2A MP to get more maps? Also I really hope H2A MP can become its own separate download at some point too

[hazy geode]

is there anyway to reset my rank or something. played all my placements with my friends and its both of ours first time getting rank on infinite and i get plat 6 and he gets silver 2 and we cant play. at what ranks can we play together again?? might have to make a new account each 5 ranked games

[celest heron]

you can't reset

[magic night]

They'd need to be around Silver 3 or 4 for you to to be able to party up in Ranked or you'd need to go down to about Plat 4 or 5.

It's best that they play a few matches to rank up. Intentionally trying to derank or use a smurf account with the intention to place low could get you banned.

[fallen flame]

Yes i'm still playing it

The game is just so fun

[crystal iron]

Then why is it so hard to find people to play with?

[oak whale]

Another game where I was kicked for inactivity because the game just doesn't load. What is wrong with Halo Infinite man

[manic sinew]

Hello! I'm wanting to play Halo MCC split-screen multiplayer on my Steam Deck (a Linux device), and I can see that there is a post about it on Reddit. However, as the subreddit is currently locked to protest, I can't view it. Does anyone here happen to know how to do it / if it is possible?

[crystal iron]

There is no split screen on pc. You won’t be able to play it

[sly shale]

Yeah, I'm playing regularly

Every Thursday my old college roommates and I have a Halo night like we used to back in the Halo 3 days. Lots of fun playing infinite still

[coarse dagger]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/sandbox-overview-season-4

[manic sinew]

I’ve seen a few posts about a split screen mod called Nucleus Coop

[crystal iron]

I don’t know anything about it

[manic sinew]

Yea I am very doubtful that it works on Linux 😦

[tepid latch]

does Nucleus coop have stuff on their site to tell tou about it? or on youtube?

[manic sinew]

It says it only supports windows, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it won’t work on Linux through something like Proton, im gonna go check now

[devout kite]

I’m guessing ether tomorrow or Wednesday we’ll see the BP and trailer

[smoky wave]

Yeah

[devout kite]

Thinking about getting halo 5 since it’s five dollars lol

[tepid latch]

ig you could try using wine on linux? im not to familiar with the OS, but if Nucleus isnt natively working on it, that might be an option

[tepid latch]

hoping its a bigger thing than just a trailer to maybe get more of the word out there y'know. like all thats come out so far have been blogposts and the HCS event which wasnt anything major outside of the community itself

[sullen anvil]

wow that threat sensor buff

Is the threat seeker only for Ranked or will it be available in every playlist?

[manic sinew]

Yea sadly Nucleus doesn’t have a native Linux version and it doesn’t work through proton (which is made from wine, but modified to support games), it wasn’t recognising my controllers and when I went to launch the game it just said “ProtoInput failed to runtime inject”

Which I’m guessing means that when it launched the game it failed to modify it

[mossy elm]

Are there any plans for Halo infinite to get a good PvE mode like firefight or warzone from H5

[tepid latch]

Probably coming up in the next few seasons

they're also working on getting AI enemies into forge so people can make their own experiences

Idk bout firefight or warzone since it would be requiring building even more maps for those modes on top of what is already being built

unless they have a way of turning chunks of the open world into isolated maps

[wide trout]

was this confirmed?

[tepid latch]

Yeah lol, Forgelord has talked about this generally being a thing they want to do

and are working towards

[mossy elm]

Cool, cant wait to come back to infinite just for that

[celest heron]

ugh, can I win a ranked game please. We're winning until halfway through and then the team just falls apart.

[celest heron]

of course when I say that we win. Person on the other team went 0-25. 😬 last game and I only made it back to where I started playing my first game of ranked of the night. 😬

[frosty condor]

[sturdy drift]

Did they get rid of team snipers in halo infinite again?

[lime robin]

It's a rotational mode

[sturdy drift]

Rotational as in every few weeks or is it in a game mode that rotates through different playlist?

[lime robin]

Every few weeks

[sturdy drift]

daymn

[lime robin]

Nope, it's the old one

When a new one is released, we'll update it here.

[native wasp]

Data Hive is genuinely impossible on legendary with foreign on, not enough damned shotgun ammo

too many damned brutes

[tepid latch]

wish these calendars were just made for the whole season or something, we won't get one for season 3 june because it ends next week so whats the point lmao

[left snow]

Swings and roundabouts. But I wouldn't get hung up on your rank. It's unlikely to change much this late in the Season?

[tepid latch]

Or like, just put Junes lineup on that same calendar

[crude pumice]

Hello All, i'm new to discord 🙂 just a quick question - should i play Halo in chronological order or release order?

[coarse dagger]

Most people say release order, I would tend to agree

[crude pumice]

thanks 🙂 i'll stick to release order

[coarse dagger]

It makes it less jarring. Reach is set before Halo CE, but released later. The graphics and game play are quite different. Doing release order builds up the story, gives a good progression on gameay and features and then Reach fills in some back story. Halo 4, 5 and Infinite then continue gameplay and feature progression

[devout kite]

Today the last weekly reward for season 3

[celest heron]

probly, but I'm just trying to see how high I can get now that I can aim better.

[glacial tartan]

The MCC schedule expired in April 😦

[eternal lion]

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/story-shard-precipice#part-4

[onyx latch]

Well, that's... Foreboding.

[eternal lion]

Its a complicated story XD

[onyx latch]

Then report him in the game and yes you can do that

[coarse dagger]

Yep, should be in-game reporting options somewhere or you can report on the Halo Support site

[sullen kiln]

https://aka.ms/HaloSafety

[coarse dagger]

For future info, we don't allow calling out gamertags

[scarlet shuttle]

Thank you 👍 done it

Now gotta report another guy calling everyone trash and quitting. Whats up today with the toxic players 🤣

[coarse dagger]

Sucks 😔

[glacial tartan]

Report them, see them in game a year later 😂🤣 the cycle continues.

[celest heron]

I don't think saying trash is bad enough to report someone, but maybe the quitting if they do it a lot.

[scarlet shuttle]

I was banned once a few years ago, for 2 days on Chat/Voice/Group of Xbox Live, because I said « f******* noobs » to a team on the game Vermintide 2 😅 reporting does work more then we can imagine I believe

[celest heron]

that's a pretty weak ban reason

[scarlet shuttle]

And it made me re-think a lot more everytime I felt like shouting insult 🤣 or even replying to someone insulting me. I prefer to silently report and wish for the best.

@celest heron it had to be for that reason because I rarely ever talk to strangers in-game chat. It was also a weak ban so it’s okay.

[celest heron]

not doubting it, but don't think that's ban worthy

[scarlet shuttle]

Perhaps the F word was too much

Are we allowed to type the whole word here if it is used in an exemple and not to insult? 🤔 I really don’t know much about Discord public forums.

[onyx latch]

No.

The penalty is automated, not issued manually.

[devout kite]

When’ll 343 add season 4 to the event tab

[steep mantle]

What do you guys think about the new infection of halo infinite? If you seen the season 4 preview.
I think that's quite cool cause there's an background story going on. But one of friends says thats an dumb idea.

[smoky wave]

It's pretty neat

Like there is some interesting stuff going on in the multiplayer story so it's neat

[slow rain]

Where is the athlon helmet? Isn't this the last week of the season?

[steep mantle]

i quit don't understand why my firend says its dumb. For me Ai take over is same as being infected by a biomasa. Then he expects 343 to change it back to proper infection lol.

[steep mantle]

i guess the firewall was ended allready.

[devout kite]

How hard is it for 343 to remove btb heavies from the rotation and make it it own playlist because I want to play normal btb

[open umbra]

I really don't know what he meant. Infected by biomass? That's only in H4 and H2A, and they are just because the infected are dressed as the flood, and the others are really just different teams.

[serene furnace]

One year ago they were saying they just wanted the gamemode as is, and now they're complaining about the lore backstory it has. Can't wait to see them explain how infection worked in Halo 3 and Reach where it was not explained at all

[solid canopy]

Making multiplayer canon was a neat novelty and it should have stayed that way.

[serene furnace]

It still is that way

[steep mantle]

well i meant that in realiity being infected by a biomasa was almost the same thing by possed by an Ai. But its more terrifying though, which makes it cool. But i get your point.

[solid canopy]

Most people just don't care about how Multiplayer ties into a larger narrative and just want to play is all

At least from what I've seen

Its always felt like a half effort on 343i's side

[serene furnace]

They just want to play the game

But then you get those same people saying AI takeover is dumb

So do they care how the gameplay ties into the lore or do they just wanna play? They gotta make up their minds

[solid canopy]

Infection doesn't need a lore explanation all it needs is to be is a fun gamemode

[serene furnace]

Just because it doesn't need one doesn't mean it can't have one, and because it has one doesn't mean it's not gonna be fun

It's the same principle infection has always had through and through, infected spawns with sword kills people and dead people become infected, simple, also here

[steep mantle]

and im sure it would be. But why saying that its dumb idea though. From what i knew people are likes new stuff. Aren't they?

[serene furnace]

AI taking over Spartans has been happening in the books since the Bungie era

[solid canopy]

Personally I don't really care about how the infected spartan is actually flood or actually an AI. Maybe this is a bit of a boomer take but, no one had any issue when they were just green spartans. (Though the flood designs were dope in H2A)

[steep mantle]

canon u mean.

[solid canopy]

Its not even a matter of canon, I don't have a problem with either explaination, like I said, its just always felt kinda like a half-effort on 343i's part

[serene furnace]

And NOW people miss the infected being Flood????
Let me remind you what people were saying of the flood mode in Halo 4 back in 2012
"It looks dumb"
"I don't like it"
"Why not just the original infection?"

[steep mantle]

well yeah, thats quite understnadable, cause as far i know their reputation arent to good.

[serene furnace]

What effort did Bungie ever put in justifying Spartans killing each other in their multiplayer side of games?

[solid canopy]

Tbf Flood was kinda botched in the gameplay department iirc

Something about the sword I think?

[grave ether]

Idk but it's all supposed to be a training simulation exercise. Idk how long that's been a thing but that's all I know/remember

[steep mantle]

sounds more like they want 343 to change things, huh? Or want the regular model.

[serene furnace]

It must have always been like that

The Pit map from Halo 3 is literally a Spartan training facility

[onyx latch]

... How the hell is putting in effort more of a half-effort than just painting Spartans green?

That statement makes no sense.

[crystal iron]

To be honest I am kinda disappointed that we haven’t even got a story trailer or anything like that on extended showcase…

[serene furnace]

Story?

[crystal iron]

You know, Season 4 and stuff

[serene furnace]

Halo games are usually 3 years apart, we all know Infinite is unusual

[open umbra]

The seasonal narrative I think?

[crystal iron]

I am talking about multiplayer…

Halo infinite multiplayer

Narrative events exist

[serene furnace]

I am betting season 4 won't have one

If I had to guess, the mid season 3 intro where they open the ONI door and see the infected Spartan was supposed to be for season 4 but brought it earlier to build up hype

[crystal iron]

Whole infection game mode will be around iratus taking over spartans. How could season 4 not have one?

[steep mantle]

u think? So far from season 1 we heard whats going on.

[serene furnace]

Like I said

[open umbra]

Well the trailer will gonna drop in their YouTube channel this week anyway.

[crystal iron]

They had this mid season event planned long time ago. It couldn’t be season 4 cinematic released earlier.

[crystal iron]

Yeah but showing game on xbox games showcase could have bring more players to the game and build up the hype(that is almost non existent) in the community.

[open umbra]

I know that, yet here we are...

[bleak rose]

What would they have showed anyway? Here’s infection, something that should have been here at launch, and here’s rank progression, something that should have been here at launch. Bad optics

[steep mantle]

soon we gonna have infinite as an complete game, question when.

[serene furnace]

It only should be there at launch if Halo CE had it at launch

[crystal iron]

In 2552. But seriously maybe next year or never. Depends on when they will stop supporting this game

[crystal iron]

… maybe you are right but still they could have show some trailer.

[eternal lion]

But the game have still a lot of performance issues (and the reset of parameters). Not great to advertise this

[steep mantle]

we so far have almost everything. So might be the near future it might be completed.

[crystal iron]

Good point…😞

[ruby knoll]

The ay low cycle 🚲

[steep mantle]

we got the missing menus, missing details from the game. The last 2 things we want the infection and the playable elites, just like in halo 3-2. But that's again an hard project.

[ruby knoll]

Forge lol

[steep mantle]

idk if theres more we want

[crystal iron]

Probably not. Only game being more stable. Yeah, actually we might get everything we wanted(except playable elites. Wouldn’t expect that) in near future.

[ruby knoll]

Honestly forge improvements alone could be as whole trailer

[stark radish]

Anyone else play infinite on Linux? I wanna know how you get more frames out of the game because for me it’s capped at 60 and dips to mid 40’s. Didn’t run like this on windows

[bleak rose]

I don’t think some niche forge improvements are what will bring the community back

[ruby knoll]

Man i love the community
before forge launched: everyone talking about how fundamental and important it is
After it launched: DOWNPLAY DOWNPLAY DOWNPLAY

this is the community that hypes up h3 forge like it was some groundbreaking innovation when it lagged heavily behind in terms of features and capabilities

[serene furnace]

I was there during the Halo 3 days
After some time players complained about the movement feeling too slow
Then Reach added sprint and they got mad about that too

[crystal iron]

It’s impossible to make everyone happy

[serene furnace]

It's impossible to make even 50% of them happy

[crystal iron]

🤷‍♂️

[serene furnace]

How Halo 2 goes from hated sequel to timeless classic when the third one comes out

Halo Halo Reach went from Halo's worst game to apparently best game after 4 came out

This fanbase honestly

[crystal iron]

Halo cycle is real😱

[stark radish]

Bo3 hated now loved

Any game really

[ruby knoll]

Anyways though, seeing how forge has and continues to improve is definitely insane

Infinite forge is definitely up there in terms of ingame editors

[crystal iron]

Yeah, people get nostalgic about old times and start loving those old games. Or just that people who actually liked the game weren’t talking about it back in the day.

[serene furnace]

People realizing just now that Halo 5 is and was always a good game
Me having realized that since the beginning

[steep mantle]

i think so far infinite forge is superior than any forges in halo. By looking at the build up and improvements.

[serene furnace]

It's pretty evident

[crystal iron]

Same lol
Like I also didn’t like some story elements of campaign but gameplay and multiplayer was always great.

[serene furnace]

But as far as the balance between creating maps and custom games go, Forge got basically perfect in Halo 4 and Halo 2A

[stark radish]

Story was hot garbage with the potential to be a timeless classic. But the gameplay itself was great. Ai could use some work though

[onyx latch]

Far Cry 2 overshadowed Halo 4 Forge potential in 2008.

[ruby knoll]

Indie open source titles with 0 funding overshadowed forge

[coarse dagger]

https://twitter.com/Unyshek/status/1668709570544533504?t=IvKMSTtngxKcv9cP0vozuQ&s=19

John Junyszek (@Unyshek)

Here's a nice recap of everything we've shared about Halo Infinite's Season 4... so far! Excited to share even more throughout this week and up until its release ✌️

• Modes -
  ☣️ Infection
  Learn more: https://t.co/JCdRvcGblu & https://t.co/AfqPPrCL8w

• Progression -
  🏆 Career…

Twitter · Jun 13, 2023, 7:58 PM

[devout kite]

How fun is halo 5 multiplayer

[thorny frigate]

halo 5 needs to come to pc

[rugged quartz]

Very fun multiplayer.

[summer aspen]

Very fun, love it.

[crystal iron]

Very fun. Definitely worth playing(even if playerbase isn’t big)

[crude gust]

thats the Ultimate Weekly Challenge for? the Pop N Drop/ Olive Rad? its for the BR

[iron sierra]

does 343 still release content for mcc? Ive been out of the loop for a bit.

i notice the rotational playlists and all but is there anything else, like armour, or anything else.

[slow walrus]

there are nameplates for certain holidays

they were apparently working on a playable version of the halo 2 demo but we've heard nothing on that for months

[glacial tartan]

Nothing since the November update last December

[iron sierra]

damn

[solid canopy]

While I do like Infinite's Forerunner weapons, I really miss the Binary Rifle, granted ig some of that gun's functionality has been lost with other weapons/all snipers having tint and beams

[edgy forum]

What’s the Quantum Translocator and Seeker Threat again?

Oh wait, isn’t the first one like time-loop going backwards and the other one is like the threat sensor but detects movement??

[coarse dagger]

There's another update in the works, no eta at the moment.

[solid canopy]

The quantom translator allows you to place a portal at one location and then proceed to warp back to that location. So kinda like a one way portal gun

Anyway, bumed out that Campaign has been place in limbo with nothing being worked on and Infinite's campaign ending how it did

[iron sierra]

ah thanks

by the way, is using steam forums a viable way to find games

[tepid latch]

would even be cool if the multiplayer additions like the DMR and equipment were available in the Campaign i reckon to keep it a little more fresh

[solid canopy]

That would be neat

The fact that Campaign DLC was never in the cards or whatever it was they said kinda baffled me when I first heard it with how they were hyping up Infinite to be "the next 10 years of Halo" and the aforementioned ending of Infinite seeming to suggest a follow up what in the works

Of course with what we do know from Infinite's production it makes sense that they weren't concerned with continuing campaign and more on just reaching the finish line

[crystal iron]

So had there been any trailers for season 4 I know there was a blog post but it seemed very in exciting really

[crystal iron]

Apparently Titan Fall 3 was in. Development for 10 months before being canceled. That sucks if true I really enjoyed Titan fall

[tepid latch]

Theres a preview video on Halo yt channel, its just stuff from HCS, not going over eeeeeverything

[tepid latch]

they really dont wanna give us a sequel to one of the best fps games 😔

titanfall 2 defs had some of the most creative and unique level designs for their campaign

[crystal iron]

The Movement was seriously Chefs kiss... I loved running a long a wall hitting someone with a fire star than jumping into my Ronin Titan

I just made thread on a topic but Given how much money Xbox has pushed towards Bathesda, and how it seems Halo is going, I can't help but shake the feeling that Halo Infinite is the next Anthem.

It's just a bad feeling so Obviously no factual evidence to support it, but yea I just get a bad feeling we are kinda just being strung along

[tepid latch]

Oh cool! the premiere is up on youtube now for the next season!

[celest heron]

got one point away from ranking up after my win. then I lost the next one. That's cool, now my entire team quit

[celest heron]

lmao, now I'm one point from ranking up again. 🤦‍♂️

[left snow]

Good luck. May the Gods of helpful team mates be kind.

[celest heron]

thanks, I won and ranked up finally even though I didn't play well. That's it for me, I'm too tired.

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/DyvwxoRtfH0

[coarse dagger]

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[barren crystal]

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[tepid latch]

Good thing im on break rn, too bad season starts when im back at work 😭

[barren crystal]

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[tepid latch]

Absolutely love that there's more than just UNSC equipment, i was pretty thrilled to see that the Seeker is banished tech

[meager island]

the Hazmat suit doesnt make any sense at all

at least it looks good

[tepid latch]

lmao no it doesn't seem like it does, be interested to see the lore explaining it if there's any

[left snow]

Like Battlestar Galactica. The older, less technological suit, is more resistant to being taken over by the AI.

[livid fable]

jump over a dude, turn around, go to melee

he punches the air in front of him, away from me, and gets a backsmack on me

melee a guy, go straight through his face

second later, die to a melee from him, but it's not a backsmack

Melee a guy, get killed by him a moment later. then he dies from my melee.

Why.

[tepid latch]

hows your ping?

I've only run into those issues if im downloading something or on Expanded Search settings

[left snow]

Pretty much the CQC version of being shot around the corner.

[crystal iron]

is MCC dead on pc or something

I couldn't find an infection game for like 20 minutes

[open umbra]

After the introduction of the Quantum Translocator, do you guys think they should also add the Speed Boost and Damage Boost in H4/H5 as the power equipments in a later date or just create some new ones?

[onyx latch]

Latency moment

[onyx latch]

They really should add speed and damage boost back. Four powerup equipments would be pretty slick.

[crystal iron]

that's my average HI experience. I play around 180-200ms ping because I have no choice

getting punched in the face and dying instantly on ranked it's what hurts me the most

[misty vale]

if you're playing ranked above a 40ms ping you're making a mistake

[crystal iron]

I agree, but I'm a bit concerned of the Threat Seeker rework. Everytime 343 reworks something it ends up straight up useless (Spike Nades and Disruptor recently, there's Mangler too). I just can't trust them to do such significant balance changes anymore.

[crystal iron]

yeah I don't like in New York or something

yesterday I couldn't even find a match after waiting for like 15 minutes

[onyx latch]

I played with good stability against US players on Middle Eastern networks through a VPN.

Crazy stuff.

[crystal iron]

Interesting, might have to try it someday

[misty vale]

If you're just in the middle of nowhere and playing this game on regular internet a VPN is probably worth your time to figure out because it's incredibly ping sensitive. The entire experience is markedly worse above 40-50ms and then again above 100ms. Being at 200ms is a nope.

I can't imagine playing a mode where winning matters on a ping like that.

[crystal iron]

I can give you an idea what's like to play with my ping. Imagine a 1vs1 fight:

• I take cover and get shoot at for about 1 second later. It's like I take cover on the first BR burst and take 2 additional ones behind the wall. What I do is simply jump or crouch, as it melees up headshots.
• I have like 20% chances of winning in close combat. Imagine I'm with a guy, he hits me with the BR twice and melee me, if I do exactly the same they'll end up alive while I died. Why? Because for the game, I was already dead so my last shots didn't even register. It legit feels like if my melees were weaker than everyone.
• I've thrown nades 1 second before I get killed and they disappear. I stick someone with a plasma/spike and they just pass through even when on my screen it clearly connected
• Don't even get me talking about the lunge, sometimes it's so ridiculous

I honestly blame the devs on this one. I've ALWAYS have play with a ping this high but never had crazy problems like these. Sure, it's normal to expect a delayed shot/melee but in H3, Reach and H5 this wasn't a problem at all. On Infinite they straight up don't register

On a blog post they once commented there's a "special code" to trade melees when the server consider you dead, but this same code should apply when throwing nades, rockets (this one is super frustrating) and bullets

[misty vale]

I agree with you that this is a netcode problem but that doesn't change the fact that I'm mystified that you'd try to play ranked with a connection like that. That's just asking to be depressed.

[crystal iron]

I want to play this game too

Although lately I have barely touched ranked. I'm slowly shifting away from the game

[misty vale]

I wasn't confused about that part.

the game has incredible gameplay if you've got a good connection. My computer ain't even all that good and the game runs butter smooth and I never get desync anything.

So yeah I get wanting to play it

but facts are facts

[crystal iron]

I have read posts on reddit of people complaining about the same issues even when they have low pings. It's a netcode issue

[misty vale]

reddit is full of bots. desync is entirely caused by your client ping.

[crystal iron]

Yeah it makes perfect sense for a bot to join the sub, complain about a real and widely known problem of the game, and use a lot of other bots to upvote and comment it /s

[onyx latch]

... They literally do this.

[crystal iron]

Really?

[onyx latch]

Yes.

It's easy upvote farming.

It's not just bots, but people just trying to upvote farm or misinfo.

Like, there are legitimate posts, don't get me wrong, but there's also 3 other big reasons those threads pop up so often.

When r/haloinfinite got its participant count up, I did some digging on a lot of the people on those posts. The people who actually consistently posted to Halo subs were a minority.

[misty vale]

Accounts post whine threads on reddit gaming subs to farm karma because they get TONS of free updoots.

[onyx latch]

Usually they posted on good places for farming, primarily NSFW subs, primarily Playstation subs, basically anything but Halo. We're talking going back to when their accounts were made.

[crystal iron]

And what would they win by doing that?

(to be honest I stopped using reddit so I'm out of the loop)

[misty vale]

There's many subreddits where you need to amplify messaging and you do that by upvote networking

but you need certain accounts with enough + to start those posts.

[onyx latch]

^

People will even pay for accounts with high upvote counts.

[misty vale]

for instance if I wanted COD to sell moe copies, why wouldn't I post a amillion threads about desync, with video from the theater, and then havea all my bots upvote

[grave ether]

To be fair, sometimes people don't post until there is a problem worth mentioning that bothers them enough to justify them taking their time to post

[onyx latch]

That too.

[misty vale]

40% of internet engagement is bots.

[onyx latch]

But then you have the accounts prior mentioned that engage with those posts.

[crystal iron]

I have to try playing infinite with VPN some day

[onyx latch]

Sometimes it works okay.

Other times... Not so much.

[subtle atlas]

Desync is bad and real tho

[onyx latch]

Yeah that's usually the sort of comments that a bot would copy and repost.

And then go back to spamming a playstation sub or something for engagement.

Short, simple, innocuous.

[subtle atlas]

What? That would be a bad thing if Desync wasn’t there, but Desync is awful in infinite and keeps me from playing it regularly

[onyx latch]

That too.

You're making great examples, keep it up.

[subtle atlas]

At that point let the bits spam about Desync until it’s fixed

[onyx latch]

... I mean, considering I haven't really dealt with it, I'm feeling it's pretty well and fixed.

[subtle atlas]

Holy moly you guys are brainwashed by 343

[onyx latch]

Ooooh, there it is.

[misty vale]

get called a shill!

[grave ether]

I mainly have desync issues noticeable when I'm doing something melee wise. Though every now and then I'll be teleported to a hole in the map to my death

[subtle atlas]

I’m out, have fun being in denial

[smoky wave]

It's 343 in your room with us

[onyx latch]

"Your experience is different than mine, you're in denial and a shill!"

[sleek hatch]

Lol

[misty vale]

Who cares that I've had Desync maybe a total of 10 times in 600 hours anad it's always from getting run over by a vehicle! Shilling 1000

[onyx latch]

I've had that vehicle driving desync twice.

Both times were in solo custom games when I was trying a VPN setup out because I thought I messed something up.

(I did, both times)

[sleek hatch]

Desync really depends on your wifi too.

[grave ether]

Oddly enough the game seems to be more stable for me if my ping is around 200.

[onyx latch]

IIRC it's more about packet loss than actual latency.

[sleek hatch]

Although the desync is better now amd I haven't seen it in awhile.

[onyx latch]

Or about how many vile 343i sponsored injections you took.

[crystal iron]

yeah that's why I stopped talking. It's like saying the reset bug is made up with bots just because it doesn't happen to me

[subtle atlas]

Yea that’s ridiculous

[onyx latch]

I never said that it didn't exist as an issue, just that it's massively overreported.

And a significant amount of it is bot or upvote farms.

[earnest phoenix]

how dare 343 infect other games with desync

[grave ether]

The reset bug is why I stopped playing for a bit. Tired of having to redo so many things when loading in

[subtle atlas]

The part I don’t understand is why are people defending a for-profit company that makes boatloads of cash when their game is broken, it’s not like this is a non-profit or indie game, there’s no reason for the game to be broken, and it’s broken because management pushed the game out early solely for profit

[onyx latch]

Also, I'd never say that the reset bug doesn't exist. That actually is a measurable problem that isn't misreported.

[earnest phoenix]

have you actually played infinite?

[crystal iron]

Halo community has always been this funny

you should see waypoint

[subtle atlas]

Yeah I have, and it just feels so off when playing multiplayer when compared to previous halos

[onyx latch]

and people say we're making stuff up.

[subtle atlas]

Halo 5 didn’t have any issues with Desync

[crystal iron]

sure thing

[earnest phoenix]

AHAHAHAHGHAFGHAGHAGHAHGHAGG

[onyx latch]

Lie detected.

[crystal iron]

it did but not like this tbh

[onyx latch]

Nono words not allowed.

[crystal iron]

in H5 I knew if my shields were 1/4 or half I could take cover and survive

[crystal iron]

People like to ignore problems of things that they like and defend it

on Infinite I have to take cover on the first shot, to get additional three BR burts and hopefully survive

[subtle atlas]

343 fanboys won’t like this, but I honestly think that only players that are good enough will recognize when Desync is there, in previous halos I would know when I am going to lose or win a gunfight, in infinite I have no clue whether or not I am going to win any fight

[onyx latch]

And people also like to make up problems for things they don't like and attack it.

[onyx latch]

???

[olive brook]

is mcc having a stroke for any1 else

[onyx latch]

My guy, stop swearing.

[misty vale]

This dude is just trolling

[earnest phoenix]

i didn't even notice lmao

[smoky wave]

This is my favorite take

[subtle atlas]

I’m literally not trolling lmao

[onyx latch]

It's either that or you get called a fool.

[crystal iron]

Of course. It was always like that with everything.

[misty vale]

"I am so good at galo that I can detec desync" lmao

[earnest phoenix]

people like to make up stuff to be mad at because infinite isn't like the older halo games and never will

[misty vale]

Skill diff

[subtle atlas]

Lmao people aren’t making Desync up

[earnest phoenix]

yeah i've never noticed desync myself

[onyx latch]

I've literally had desync, lmao. I never said it didn't exist, just that it's overreported.

[grave ether]

[earnest phoenix]

its happened, just barely

[subtle atlas]

It’s not over reported

[onyx latch]

Yes, it is.

[misty vale]

IT'S A SKILL DIFF STOP DEFENDING 343

[subtle atlas]

Okay

[olive brook]

mcc is actin really weird for me rn

[grave ether]

[smoky wave]

A lot of cases are from the user end too

[onyx latch]

Then work out instead

[crystal iron]

What is happening with mcc?

[smoky wave]

But hey

[olive brook]

just played a match and the lag was insane, now i restarted the game and im being yelled at about this ''invalid region'' stuff??

[onyx latch]

Doesn't fit the narrative.

[smoky wave]

That's true

[onyx latch]

Anything to scrape up an insult.

[subtle atlas]

So, every instance of Desync that did not effect you is just not real? Are we really that ignorant and hopeful for this game?

[crystal iron]

for a problem that has there since launch, it is? Don't take it personally, my point is whether we report it a lot or not, I don't think 343 can't fix it atm

[misty vale]

Nope

I've said that desync is from ya ping

[subtle atlas]

I love the base gameplay but the Desync is killing me, combined with other problems as well

[grave ether]

That's the opposite of what was said

[subtle atlas]

It isn’t from your ping lmao

[onyx latch]

I'm not expecting reason from this guy at this point.

[misty vale]

And it's also massively overblown on reddit

[subtle atlas]

I get it on Wi-Fi or Ethernet in different locations

[crystal iron]

hiring someone who understands netcode and Slipspace engine, while understanding the spaguetti code previous coders left

[subtle atlas]

Honestly if it’s not overblown they will never fix it

[crystal iron]

quite complex to fix

[grave ether]

https://tenor.com/view/not-how-it-works-confused-doesnt-work-that-way-no-not-like-this-gif-4953698

[subtle atlas]

It is complex to fix, but video games are complex to make, so if they’re a aaa company that makes multiplayer game, there’s really no excuse

[misty vale]

Just fix it! Lol like just move closer to a backbone node and fix your ping

[crystal iron]

I mean, every multiplayer game in existence have desync in some regards… you will never have a perfect connection…

[misty vale]

Oh wait easier said than done

[crystal iron]

yeah I get you, it's not an excuse but try to look at HI development

[olive brook]

does any1 know what this is message is about

[subtle atlas]

Yeah HI dev was scattered far too much

[smoky wave]

Just put the ''fix'' in the code, easy

[onyx latch]

Halo 3 totally didn't.

Shhhh.

[subtle atlas]

Yeah but the frequency and intensity of the Desync is the problem with infinite

[crystal iron]

Lol

[subtle atlas]

It can either be a hiccup here and there or it can regular intervene with online gameplay, which the latter is true for most people playing halo infinite

[crystal iron]

for sure, but older halos (I specifically like to take Reach as an example) handled it better

[crystal iron]

Problem solved. He saved halo infinite

[misty vale]

Microsoft execs love him

[crystal iron]

2 minutes

[onyx latch]

Huh. Neat.

[crystal iron]

any more toxicity you guy wants to throw? we still have time for pointless discussion

[onyx latch]

The only person really being toxic here has a pfp with a Squirtle, frankly.

[subtle atlas]

I’ve also not met anyone defending 343 with a computer or software background as well, so most people defending 343 don’t even understand what they are talking about

[subtle atlas]

That’s me

[grave ether]

Can't we all just get along?

[crystal iron]

To be honest I don’t know how reach handled it because I never played original version of this game

[smoky wave]

New favorite take, keep going

[misty vale]

I see we've moved on to calling people dumb lol

[subtle atlas]

Lmao I never said dumb

[onyx latch]

He already called people talentless hacks, what's one more ad hominem to his opponents.

[subtle atlas]

You’re insecure if you think not knowing something makes you dumb

[misty vale]

Didn't you tho lolol

[glacial tartan]

I cant believe Microsoft did this to us

[subtle atlas]

I didn’t say dumb, no, read what I said

[onyx latch]

Oh, so it's only bad when people say you said things you didn't.

I see how it is.

[subtle atlas]

I actually don’t understand what you’re trying to say

[crystal iron]

just a quick example, imagine two players melee at each other with no shield. Player A lives in the US and player B in the butt of the world (me) with 180 ping:

• H3: Player A absolutely wins. Player B's input is invalid according to the server
• H: Reach: Player A and Player B hits each other. There may be a small delay, but the hit will always be registered.
• HI: Player A hits Player B in the face and counts as a backsmack / doesn't register at all / lunge is inconsistent

[onyx latch]

Skill issue.

[subtle atlas]

Yeah on your end

[onyx latch]

Yeahhhhh, right.

[ruby knoll]

I have a compsci background

Most people crying about daesync or da enjin or whatever are room temp morons who would be filtered by having to do hello world in python

[grave ether]

I don't understand what any of this is supposed to be about but here's your friendly reminder to keep discussion here friendly and respectful

[crystal iron]

well it's started shhhh

enough with this

[subtle atlas]

Dude I programmed python for a living for years lmao

[onyx latch]

I mean, that ship sailed about 20+ messages ago at this point.

[subtle atlas]

You guys are ridiculous, I’m out

[misty vale]

There's no way you have a compsci background, you're shillin it up hard

[onyx latch]

You were out earlier.

I wish you had followed your own line then.

[crystal iron]

Okay, yeah, it’s handled better

[smoky wave]

This time for sure?

[onyx latch]

"No servers in common"

Ah, the elusive bot account.

[smoky wave]

Anyways

[grave ether]

I don't care. Bring that (friend)ship back over here and move on.
Now I'm going back to scrub through the trailer

[smoky wave]

Those new models weapons aaaaaaaaaaaa

[onyx latch]

:3

[crystal iron]

woah they removed the walls of Streets for infection

[onyx latch]

Also new Hazmat GUNGIR lookalike spotted

[crystal iron]

pretty neat

[onyx latch]

New Yoroi parts spotted too

[crystal iron]

and I think the first infected spartan is invisible too

[onyx latch]

OOOOOOOOO

That's a LOT of weapon parts

[ruby knoll]

I literally work in the sector. I'm no veteran but I do work in tech

[keen lark]

So Falcon is not coming in Season 4?

[smoky wave]

No

[ruby knoll]

Was it supposed to? Please show me the first party statements indicating that it would

[smoky wave]

We would know for some time now if that was the case, like the equipments

[small goblet]

It’s probably a temp camo like we got with the special evade

[smoky wave]

YES YES YES YES YES

[crystal iron]

that would be really neat

[ruby knoll]

AYO?????

How long is the trailer

[crystal iron]

it definitely has the potential of becoming the best iteration of Infection

[smoky wave]

1:44

[small goblet]

I do like the extra customisation tho gives it some life at least

[ruby knoll]

Oh nice might as well go n watch

[smoky wave]

That's the problem, you believe on that
Also you can't talk about that here

[grave ether]

We don't discuss those here

[onyx latch]

God that blocky AR is sooooo hot.

[crystal iron]

yeah I felt they were focusing too much on armors lately

[smoky wave]

Go go go

[small goblet]

But this season will give me something todo at least

[smoky wave]

God

[crystal iron]

It looks great. I am curious if we will get some weapon models in battle pass.

[crystal iron]

😱

[small goblet]

I should think so and the weekly missions and events

[crystal iron]

I really hope Forest to be a ranked map 😔

[keen lark]

The coolest models are probably put in bundles.🤔

[smoky wave]

So like most stuff

[small goblet]

If so that’s literally just what we have anyway

[ruby knoll]

BRO THAT WAS SICK

[smoky wave]

That was so cool

[open umbra]

I hope there are some classic models like the MA5B AR

[smoky wave]

I'm so happy that they go all in with weapon models

Because there was a lot of potential when I saw it during season 1 and 2, this is so cool

[small goblet]

A classics event would be cool

[crystal iron]

just realized it isn't...

[eternal lion]

I think it will be kits and not model

[devout kite]

I guess we won’t see the BP until season 4 go lives

[eternal lion]

What do you mean by "classic" ?

[small goblet]

Classic looks so like a combat evolved style weapons and vehicles skin

That’s just me being optimistic tho

[smoky wave]

There is a possibility seeing this tbh

[open umbra]

Maybe we can get the Fracture style weapon model in the event?

[small goblet]

Imagine a hornet skin for the wasp

[tender nexus]

You can customize your weapons?

[exotic vigil]

Might as well just add the hornet

[small goblet]

The wasp is the replacement for the hornet

[exotic vigil]

I think it would still be cool to add as an in between for the wasp and falcon

[neon crag]

What's the difference between the threat sensor the new the threat locater thing?

[exotic vigil]

No idea if they are sticking to it but if infinite is a ten year game they probably will add it eventually

[vivid light]

This looks like it bounces til it finds people and it keeps them marked longer on a one time pulse rather than multiple pulses

[small goblet]

More range and you can bounce it

[crystal iron]

• Sensor has multiple pings, Seeker has just one
• Sensor checks for a radius, Seeker checks for line of sight so it won't reveal spartans through walls if not placed correctly
• Sensor can be attatched to walls, Seeker will bounce off
• Sensor is meant to be used to detect if a player is passing through certain zone, Seeker it's more like a "is this zone clear?"
• Sensor reveals players as long as they are in the radius, while Seeker, if found any players, reveals them for a little longer (the same amount of time it takes to a shield to recharge)

[slow walrus]

more importantly, sensor is not in ranked while seeker is

[frosty condor]

Anybody else notice the footage of Streets at end of the trailer is a different part of the map?

[onyx latch]

Yee

The part we've been able to unlock and go through in Forge for a hot minute

[frosty condor]

I wonder if there’s any more spots on different maps

[onyx latch]

The under section with the sandwich on Aquarius

And two small hallways on that one daytime urban map

I forgot the name of

[full warren]

This heavies BTB mode is the most boring mode if you do not get into a tank or banchee

literally being spawn killed by tanks from across the map

I swear rockets also do nothign to tanks, even the skewer takes two shots and you only have 1 skewer on the map.... for the whole team

[misty vale]

I'm always perplexed by folks who die to tanks "across the map"...has literally never happened to me BTB Heavies owns

stop standing in the open

[full warren]

lol you ever played the scorpion? you ever just spawn in the open?

[misty vale]

stop standing there

[full warren]

LOL? you think I dont move when I spawn?

[misty vale]

I don't!

[full warren]

they are literally just watching where you spawn sometimes

[misty vale]

because you are dying to an across the map spawn camp!

[full warren]

Also half the time on BTB heavies I just spawn in the middle of the enermy team with them both infont and behind because the spawn does not know where to put me

because there are tons of people flying around

anyway I don't need to complain much there was literally 12 people who left that game it will be removed next patch anyway if 343 takes into account the people leaving games

I have never seen so many people leave

[misty vale]

people play btb heavies, aren't good because they're bad at halo, and come on here every day to whine about it with made up whines. "Across the map spawn camp" lmao skill problem.

[full warren]

dude... I am high diamond, maybe onyx

I just find it boring because Either you get in a tank or you are out of luck to enjoy the game, I want to be able to shoot stuff with my guns

[misty vale]

Dunno what to tell ya I just spent the whole btb heavies game sniping and driving a ghost. Got the W, 28-6-10

not once did I spawn and die or get unfairly killed.

BTB heavies is literally the way BTB should be.

[full warren]

yes 1 game is a good indicator to not getting spawn killed lol

I do not know what BTB used to be like, I enjoyed the old BTB where you are mostly a giant gun fight and maybe some snipers. I just dislike vehicles so I never get in one no matter what mode I play

and there just isn't enough weapons to kill tanks if you are not in a tank

[misty vale]

I just dunno how to reconsile "I'm onyx" with "I can't kill a tank with, often a choice of, six different guns"

so I'm just gonna go enjoy more btb

you can kill a tank with most of the power weapons, which there are plethora

a wraith, wasp, another tank, banshee

and then if they're bad like 4 other things

[full warren]

It almost feels like you do not play BTB what weapons can kill a tank?

[misty vale]

how much could you possibly need

[full warren]

I already said i do not like getting into a vehicle, so if I see a tank I leave it for other people to get in

[misty vale]

why play btb if you don't like vehicles it's FOR vehicles

[full warren]

I always pickup the rocket and skewer but they literally do nothing vs tanks

Because BTB used to NOT BE

only recently did they had heavies which had its own playlist

so i did not even know it got moved to BTB

[misty vale]

dunno how to reconsile the things you're saying with "Being onyx". oh well I'm gonna let ya off here

glhf

[full warren]

Yeah whatever, guess i will just not play BTB anymore

another mode ruined

[misty vale]

just killed a tank with the zarya cannon

[celest heron]

what a surprise, match a party of 50's in H3...............

[celest heron]

can mcc get bots cause they'd perform better than some of the teammates I'm getting.

[glacial tartan]

You can block them and move on with your life.

[crystal iron]

wish we got a new gun instead of two new gadgets

but at least this game will finally feel complete with a career rank system

[celest heron]

I know that. That doesn't prevent getting matched with different ones.

[river minnow]

I think the local discord message is better but this is cool to have

[glacial tartan]

Well there aren't any actually teams of 50s still searching in MCC - but, if you want to queue together sometime so you're not solo feel free to reach out

[celest heron]

I was referring to a social game. Their highest ranks were two 50's, a 48 and another what looked like a second account which was probly a similar rank on their main.

[glacial tartan]

And I’m describing the actual players - lots of people boosted their 50s by circle boosting and stack as a group of 4s. few really good players left unfortunately

[celest heron]

oh, well they weren't bad and the game was lopsided.

now I'm trying to get splatters and get Standoff. ugh

[tepid latch]

Wooooo weapon models that are full remodels!! this is the way!

this is what i thought wed be getting when they first talked about them, not just small attachments

Hope 343 is finally in that rhythm 😁

[celest heron]

yeah, should be good

[crystal iron]

finally, 343 is gonna release a new season in time

[crystal iron]

Wonder though, what is there a rice plan to try and get that Day 1 playerbase back.

I made post discussing this but I do worry for the future of Halo Infinite... Perhaps Forge AI will be a solid win given how great the forgers are at making stuff nearly overnight.

Also I tend to get some heat for asking that instead of just going on everything is fine and I shouldn't ask those specific questions.

[crystal iron]

I do dislike how the Rocker launcher and Skewer seem rather useless against the heavies. I haven't played since the new season though and maybe twice here and there.

I can't seem to get into the game anymore. For me it just feels very bland.

It's not a bad game it just doesn't draw me in at all.

I would play ho reach more but I have gotten so used to the new game Mechanics that Halo Reach feels archaic to me.

Also Halo Infinite seems to have long search times for most modes

[exotic vigil]

I really doubt it will ever get back to day 1 player count but maybe it can have a halo 5 level playerbase

[crystal iron]

Haven't even touched Halo 5 in so long. I think the fact that campaign is basically done and that's it, kinda has me so depressed with this game too.

Like we no we won't get anything for at least 4 yrs once development starts and at the moment there is no active development. For any campaign stuff or DLC so basically all we have is a PVP game and a Campaign that has no updates to it in terms of content.

Doubt we will even get the falcon in the campaign

[exotic vigil]

Probably a UI limitation for adding the falcon to campaign lol

[crystal iron]

I still don't get that, how do they make a game that's sapposed to be a live service but have a UI that seems to be very anti Live Service

Also it was very sad to see Halo get basically no Love at the showcase and further showcases afterwards...

I swear MS treats Halo like the red headed step child now

[exotic vigil]

I think that the game was like near 100% scrapped maybe a year or two before it was supposed to launch

I’m glad it didnt have anything at the showcase
Its embarassing having what used to be the flagship franchise flounder

[crystal iron]

Like I'm waiting for the announcement from Phil Spencer that they are going to be pushing Multiple studios onto Halo Infinite and that the game is going to continue with a Long support plan for years to come

[exotic vigil]

I think if they had started development with current Halo infinite as the baseline it could be in a better place now

[crystal iron]

Be. Careful there is a specific person in this discord who will come at you with the most condescending superiority. Complex if you dare not praise the game

[exotic vigil]

But I think they had half a dozen different ideas that were all being worked on up until maybe 2019

[crystal iron]

Yea there is a strong biase here.

Like it's fine to not be ok with the state of the game and have higher expectations.

For me the game still feels very bare bones and Yea some people will hate that but it is what it is.

I'm not over here hoping the game fails but I do want the game to get that support it needs.

Halo and it's community is really the only reason Xbox really took off.

That's why I hated so much how the actor and others responded to the Halo Playerbase who did no like the TV series

[exotic vigil]

Somehow an even further departure from the original story than the reclaimer trilogy

[crystal iron]

Dude they had a whole Sniper and three prophets sitting there like sitting ducks, and no one shot them... Or captured them, killed them... Like they didn't even have an active honor guard on top with them,... They were below hidden or something

[exotic vigil]

And I agree the game needs more attention from devs and management that care not contractors and suits that have no connection to 343 or Halo

[exotic vigil]

The prophets taking orders from a human was hilariously bad

[grave ether]

https://tenor.com/view/not-how-it-works-confused-doesnt-work-that-way-no-not-like-this-gif-4953698

[crystal iron]

Wasn't speaking of you, we all know your ok with fair criticism, it's someone else in particular

[exotic vigil]

Allegedly***

[grave ether]

I know it's not me, I just mean in general, as long as the criticism is fair and everyone is civil, then feel free to carry on

[crystal iron]

I know, if you go to two of my recent post You might be able to guess who it is though. Lol.

Hey have you seen the Starfeild stuff... Thoughts?

[grave ether]

If someone is being on the other extreme that's not really ok either

[exotic vigil]

Starfield looks like a more complete no mans sky

[grave ether]

Actually, I have no clue about anything for starfield other than everyone is excited about it. First time I heard it was the other day when everyone was talking about the showcase

[crystal iron]

It does, I'm very excited for the Ship customization..

[exotic vigil]

Very excited to be overwhelmed and confused by every system in the game