#halo-discussion

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celest heron
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likely cause it's a lot harder solo

real vapor
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I'm one level away from purple sun coating

viral knoll
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Infinite servers down?

narrow agate
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MCC Update when?

smoky wave
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When it's ready

viral knoll
sage hill
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Hear hear

odd hawk
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is that chimera event active

real vapor
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yea

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I'm wondering what they will be selling tomorrow

devout kite
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343 will announce the update when they release it

smoky wave
austere glade
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I'm on mcc and all I did was change my crouch settings for Halo 3 and now my controls are all messed up and I cant reverse it. Left joystick lets me move forward and look let to right and left joystick lets me look up and down and move left to right and some buttons just don't work anymore. There is nothing wrong with the controller its mcc Halo 3 and it works in all the other Halo MCC games. How do I fix this problem?

magic night
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Sounds like the whole control and thumbstick layout got changed

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You'll have to change them back

stone raven
magic night
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This is like the third time you've asked this

stone raven
magic night
fallow merlin
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Did anyone here ever find every skull in a Halo game on their own without knowing where they were beforehand?

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Ive tried it with every game (in some cases I might have vaguely known one or two beforehand just from watching Halo videos on YouTube or whatever.) Closest I came was Infinite where I got 10/12. And one of them was because someone gave me a hint when I asked them not to and the hint wasn’t even correct and had me looking in the wrong spot so I don’t count that one and consider it 10/11 since I was basically trolled (though I don’t think it was intentional and maybe just a language barrier misunderstanding) with one of the skulls. I’d think if anyone actually found them all on their own without hints the best game to do that for would be CEA.

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Though I missed quite a few. But that was my first game I tried to skullhunt. Now I’m much better at scouring levels. CE is the only game where all the skulls are as simple as just “find them” and none of them require you to to do anything special to trigger them to spawn.

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Has anyone here ever done the full IWHBYD challenge in Halo 2? With the 28 elite ultras. I’ve done it twice. Hardest thing I think I’ve ever done in Halo. The amount of time it took me to come up with a crazy method to pull it off was just insane.

crystal iron
ruby knoll
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because forge is an ingame map editor and forkknife's whatever isn't?

ruby knoll
crystal iron
sullen anvil
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halo infinite patch tomorrow nice

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2 patches back to back is pretty good stuff

ruby knoll
crystal iron
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Like we can't sit here and if and act like the creative 2.0 mode isn't something impressive

ruby knoll
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I can!
external tools have existed for a while

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there's this tiny indie title called Warcraft 3, it launched with a modding tool. Spawned this game nobody knows about called Defense of the Ancients

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Certainly, UE's gimmicks are neat but the concept is far from new

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it's modding tools, given a fancy rebranding from what i've seen

crystal iron
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Yea it's modding tools that was given to a community with the largest hold on the gaming market.

ruby knoll
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well credit to the people who actually make the stuff then

fallow merlin
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Ive never tried the Halo 3 Mythic multiplayer map skulls. I just realized. I do have a vague idea of where some of them are. What are the Mythic maps in Halo 3?

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There’s 6 right?

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(Don’t tell me where the skulls are pls. I want to try to find them on my own.)

signal ivy
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there's one under the bed

fallow merlin
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What map

signal ivy
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I was kidding

fallow merlin
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I know

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Andy’s Room forge map

shell shadow
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I am not gonna lie Combat Evolved is a bit repetitive and boring so far, each level has the same design all the way through and there's not a lot of challenges like some of the other ones

fallow merlin
shell shadow
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normal, and ive been switching between anniversary and original a bit

uneven bison
shell shadow
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i just starting playing halo bruh

fallow merlin
# shell shadow normal, and ive been switching between anniversary and original a bit

Imo you should use original graphics first time through for many reasons. This is why I hate that 343 puts Reach first in the list of campaigns on MCC. Because a lot of new fans who don’t know better are gonna start with that. It’s like watching Star Wars for the first time and starting with the prequels. It’s fine if an established fan wants to watch in chronological order or play CE and 2 remasters but that shouldn’t be how someone experiences the games for the first time. And the order they put for the MCC campaigns isn’t even chronological because if it was they’d have ODST before 3.

shell shadow
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Ah i see thats good to know

fallow merlin
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Going from older games to CE can be jarring because CE definitely feels a little clunky in comparison gameplay wise.

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The jumping always feels delayed to me

shell shadow
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its not the gameplay its just level design

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for me

fallow merlin
# shell shadow its not the gameplay its just level design

Honest question. Have you heard about the level design issue before you started playing? Because it’s something I see people talk about all the time in reviews. And I think people go in expecting to dislike it and it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

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I think CE genuinely has overall one of the best level designs in the series.

shell shadow
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No I haven't

shadow mango
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I literally joined the server to rant about Halo Infinites BTB Social playlist. Idk what person at 343 thought that escalation and rocket slayer were going to be the main two game modes but they deserve some hate. 2/12 social games so far have ONLY been these two. Rant over kinda but I could absolutely slap someone for this

crystal iron
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Who can I play halo with since the remove the chat

sullen kilnBOT
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fallow merlin
# shell shadow Go on...

It’s lacking in the kind of action set pieces you see in Halo 2 onwards. Stuff like fighting the scarab, etc. But the thing CE does so well is these wide open areas. Compare it to Halo 2 which is for the most part very linear in confined spaces. Halo CE starts out that way with the first level. And then the second level is this massive wide open area. You can choose what order you want to tackle the objectives at the end of the level. You don’t feel like you’re on a linear path (even though most of the time you are) like Halo 5 or most of Halo 2. The world feels expansive. The fourth level The Silent Cartographer is one of the best designed levels of all time imo. The way you can go around the island and tackle the objectives in any order you want. The atmosphere of the ring in general in CE (on classic graphics/audio - not remaster) has a very unique mysterious kind of creepy but beautiful feel.

shell shadow
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good to know since im about to do silent cartographer

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an example of what i didnt like would be the truth and reconciliation with its endless repetetive hallways that reminded me of the backrooms

fallow merlin
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I get some of the levels use similar rooms and some of the levels backtrack through areas. But the encounters in each room are different. Also none of the rooms are actually totally the same in the first place. And even on the backtracking levels there’s no level where you don’t explore new areas on top of visiting old ones. And the visual aesthetic of the level is different, the route you go through is different, the enemy encounters are totally different and feature entirely different types of enemy factions. I think there’s things to criticize about CE level design. It has flaws. But I think they’re blown out of proportion. The game was rushed and they had to reuse some spots. It’s also important to remember the context. Game came out in 2001 and revolutionized shooters. So many things we take for granted these days originated from CE. When I play on remaster graphics I notice the repetitive level design much more personally because the overall charm of the areas is greatly diminished and goes from places that I don’t mind spending time in to wanting to be somewhere else. I love the lighting on the Truth And Reconciliation hallways on classic graphics with the beautiful greens and purples. It’s amazing how detailed those hallways actually are for a 2001 game when you take a second to look at the textures and designs. Then you turn on remaster and it’s just obnoxious saturated purple. Reach assets being repurposed in a way that just doesn’t work (and I think Reach itself is gorgeous).

shell shadow
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Fair, putting it up to todays standards would be unacceptable

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And yeah Reach is the prettiest game I've ever played

fallow merlin
shell shadow
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Anddd I crashed the warthog and died

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10/10 level

fallow merlin
# shell shadow And yeah Reach is the prettiest game I've ever played

I agree. It’s a gorgeous game. I just don’t think you can repurpose assets from Reach and Halo 3 and call it a day. Because those games has a totally different style. The CE remaster is often very pretty on its own but it just doesn’t capture the vibe and charm of original CE. I think they did a much better job with the Halo 2 remaster (though I still prefer classic graphics and think first time players should use classic graphics but if you chose to do that definitely come back and check out the remaster cuz it’s much better than CEA imo and the cutscenes are awesome)

fallow merlin
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I love that beach battle. I think it’s great level design. Epic music playing while you storm the beach like D day with your marines. It feels wide and expansive but the way the enemies are placed and the rocks and shields they use as cover are placed, it funnels you to the center. It makes you feel like a badass. And then you get to go explore the island.

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CE, 2, 3 and ODST also nail marines in a way Reach onward just haven’t quite gotten right imo.

shell shadow
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Man it’s been so nice to play this with my Dad

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He’s remembered the Cartographer level as being the best level in FPS

crystal iron
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haven't seen that before

fallow merlin
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Wait. You can’t say words in this server that are said in the games the server is dedicated to? Lol. Umm, alrighty then.

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Point was the Reach, 4 and Infinite marines lack the same kind of humor and 90s action movie kinda lines. The OG trilogy marines made you feel like a God. You’d walk into an room and they’d get so excited at your presence. They were hilarious. Over the top. Full of charm. Reach marines felt a little too, idk? Serious. There was some goofiness at times especially with the IWHBYD skull activated but it wasn’t the same. Halo 4 marines looked terrible. Halo 5 marines aren’t even in the campaign and the Meridian people were meh. Infinite marines have the right look. And they’ve got some humor. But some of the charm just isn’t quite right. And a lot of the humor to me feels a little try hard. Like it’s something clearly written down beforehand. Whereas the OG trilogy humor is often clearly the voice actors riffing on the spot.

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I miss Johnson. Sgt Stacker. The Australian. The Mexican(?). The female marine played by Michelle Rodriguez. And several others. They were so funny. Their lines never got old.

uneven bison
fallow merlin
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I remember one time playing Halo 2 and a female marine got killed and one of the marines goes over, kneels beside her body and says “she was one of the hot ones” sounding like he’s gonna cry. Lol. Reach onwards to me was missing that kind of humor. Or at least it was greatly reduced. The marines in CE-ODST are the best NPCs of all time.

fallow merlin
uneven bison
fallow merlin
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I don’t understand for the life of me why Sgt Stacked wasn’t in Infinite.

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They had Pete Stacker in the voice booth to do Keyes flashback lines.

tardy turtle
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A while back, but I always suggest a True Timeline run-through of the games. Forget when it came out, play that story from start to finish.

tardy turtle
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Yep

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As well I always suggest first playthroughs to be on Easy.

ruby knoll
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tfw no embed
@river minnow pls

tardy turtle
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And just for the curious, a True Timeline playthrough (Easy: Games Only) is:

Halo Wars
Halo Reach
Halo: CE
Halo: Fireteam Raven (if possible)
Halo 2 (STOP after Metropolis)
Halo 3: ODST (STOP before Epilogue)
Halo 2 (RESUME with The Arbiter)
Halo 3: ODST (RESUME with Epilogue) (Technically a backtrack, but easier than stopping the closing cutscene for The Great Journey in the middle)
Halo 3
Halo: Spartan Assault
Halo 4
Halo 4: Spartan Ops
Halo: Spartan Strike
Halo 5
Halo Wars 2
Halo Infinite

uneven bison
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I believe that fireteam raven has multiple versions. Your standard 2 player and a 4 player I’ve never seen

tardy turtle
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4 player just has more of the ODST squad, I believe. Same storyline

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It'll be easier to include if it ever comes to Xbox. Spartan Strike, too

tepid latch
magic night
bright jasper
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Why is there still a penalty for leaving matches or getting disconnected etc? As far as I know infinite is the only game that still does that.

Maybe I don’t want to play a bad gametype on a bad map. Maybe I have specific challenges. Stop punishing us

tardy turtle
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Every Halo game has done that.

sterile shore
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anyone got any tips on achieving hunting?

bright jasper
tardy turtle
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Maybe you should stop leaving games

bright jasper
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The game crashed twice today and gave me a 10 minute ban

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If I want to leave I should be able to. I can in cod. There’s no penalty except in ranked. That’s how it should be

tardy turtle
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And yet you were complaining about being penalized for leaving.

bright jasper
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They force us to play gametypes and maps we don’t want

tardy turtle
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Then why are you selecting that gametype?

signal ivy
bright jasper
round forge
signal ivy
bright jasper
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signal ivy
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because people have to deal with quitters and get upset and stop playing? I agree. Be a part of the solution not the problem

tardy turtle
tardy turtle
signal ivy
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constant quitters should have BP tiers revoked 👏

distant plank
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Hi

signal ivy
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or put into games with other constant quitters so they can experience the pain

round forge
signal ivy
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there's a timejump between HW1 and HW2.

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and there are reasons for the timejump explained in the games

tardy turtle
bright jasper
tardy turtle
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For the better

crystal iron
bright jasper
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🐀

bright jasper
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It’s always the worst players that think like this, it baffles me. Why do you want everyone around you to suffer

analog salmon
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the quit penalities should be stricter but man this game badly needs a match composer

tardy turtle
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Says the guy quitting games

bright jasper
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I D/C’d

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I’ve explained this. Your IQ is lower than your kd

analog salmon
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i mean you said you should just be allowed to quit any non ranked match

tardy turtle
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Then why do you care so much about how the game should just allow you to quit if you don't feel like playing it? Have some consistency in your complaint, my guy

crystal iron
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Dude it’s a video game who gives a flying hoot about how people play

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As much as I hate players in my region being worse than bots I understand that everyone still has to start somewhere

bright jasper
analog salmon
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halo is just garbage if players can quit any match they dont like

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like nah

ruby knoll
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it's what happened in MCC for ages until 343i finally put in quit penalties

analog salmon
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its a team game, its not COD where you can just do ur thing and slay

ruby knoll
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hoping they can also kill the AFKer plague

analog salmon
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COD is so pathetically basic as a game that comparing it to Halo is nonsense

bright jasper
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It’s a team game where 90% of the players don’t even know the controls

crystal iron
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And?

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That was all of us at one point

analog salmon
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most games like halo probably have quit penalities

bright jasper
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None that I’m aware of

analog salmon
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Infinite has issues and i quit games over them but acting like the problem is you not being allowed to quit is absurd

bright jasper
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The op I was making was about the quit penalty being in effect when games crash

analog salmon
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i think everyone agrees they need to fix the crashes

bright jasper
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The leaving is a secondary issue, it’s SOCIAL. There are BOTS

tardy turtle
bright jasper
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Maybe I don’t want to play a stupid gametype on a bad map

analog salmon
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i mean i agree but that's why they need a match composer

tardy turtle
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Look, if you don't want a timeout, then stop being a quitter.

analog salmon
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if you let people quit they will quit for no good reason

crystal iron
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Well you play cod so you should understand the phrase “choices have consequences”

ruby knoll
tardy turtle
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Ironic, I know; quit being a quitter. But I mean, baby steps.

bright jasper
ruby knoll
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or rather, since there's ways to fake crashing or quitting or disconnects or whatever the game can't detect what the actual cause is without being excessively intrusive

bleak nymph
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Honestly unless they bump the bots up to Spartan difficulty, they are just free kills. Sure Spartan bots aren't gonna win matches against most players but at least they will do something

bright jasper
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Why should I play out a bad gametype with bad teammates on a bad map? Explain the logic

tardy turtle
round forge
analog salmon
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like i quit attrition matches 9 times out of 10 but ultimately i do that cus everyone else quits modes they dont like and there's no penalty. I didnt quit in past halo games and those games didn't have so many wacko modes forced on you

crystal iron
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Because you queued for the match

bright jasper
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I just need to finish the stupid weekly

signal ivy
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intentionally ruining games is bad and you should feel bad

analog salmon
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i mean that's just the dumbest reason

tardy turtle
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LOL

analog salmon
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if you really really dont like a mode fair, but if you just wanna get a cosmetic, uninstall the game

crystal iron
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You quitting because you don’t want to play a mode or map is part of the problem

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Like who cares if the team sucks, pop off, go for clips or something

analog salmon
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i know but i would stop if they had penalties so everyone else stopped. the penalty is so weak that quiting is rampant

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i would probably only queue Team Slayer or Ranked though. Idk why we cant just have a traditional Objective playlist like every other halo game

round forge
tardy turtle
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Hold up. The weekly is literally just 10 power weapon kills? My dude, just play a couple games of Fiesta. There is literally zero excuse to be a quitter.

analog salmon
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the problem really is matchmaking in this game is just archaic

crystal iron
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Reporting doesn’t work so there’s no issue with that lmao

analog salmon
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Quick play should not be a playlist, it should be a way to queue multiple playlists for faster matchmaking times

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and then the game should have more playlists to choose from

crystal iron
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So something like the quick match for cgb on MCC

analog salmon
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ideally a match composer but if that's too hard then just make Quick play actually function like it sounds

round forge
bright jasper
crystal iron
bright jasper
analog salmon
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fyi you usually can see where it lists your friends, then if its a mode you dont like you can toggle your internet off for a second

round forge
bright jasper
analog salmon
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you will still get banned for doing it i think though

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and if you requeue that playlist you might just get put into that match

round forge
tardy turtle
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Bottom line if you're just going to quit out of a game, you have no ground to be chuffed about a 10 minute time out.

analog salmon
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i've never done it enough to get banned so idk how people even get banned in this game

bright jasper
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Give a valid reason not to quit other than fear of a ban

analog salmon
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but if im going to quit over a mode, i try to do it in the lobby so the game has plenty time to find someone else

bright jasper
tardy turtle
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No. I'm not going to fluff egos here, Donatello. Quit and get banned

analog salmon
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friends section you can see

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you go to where it shows your fireteam details and it shows what match you are in before you even load

bright jasper
analog salmon
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its cause leaving causes imbalance and its basically gonna quin the match for your team mates if you are decent and the game weighted the teams based on your skill

tardy turtle
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Might have a loss, but I'm not a quitter, so...

crystal iron
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No ego is pretty good, means you’re not overzealous

bright jasper
analog salmon
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i mean its in the place where it shows your friends list

bright jasper
tardy turtle
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It's not my job to convince you to play, dude

analog salmon
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I think you press F1 to open it unless i set that binding myself

bright jasper
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analog salmon
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honestly dude if you're decent at this game you might as well just wait until they add some ranked maps

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and pray they are good maps

tardy turtle
bright jasper
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I don’t even care about onyx anymore, I won’t get any higher than I did in season 2 and it’s just a boring grind on a good day, and a mental health crisis on a bad one

analog salmon
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i just play ranked for fun honestly i think i also hit Onyx in S2 and just hover high diamond now

bright jasper
crystal iron
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Can we not devolve into attacking each other

analog salmon
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but ranked has nothing with Season 3 until Plaza and they removed perfectly good maps so i really dont feel like there's much reason to play rn

bright jasper
analog salmon
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its just more fun for me honestly

tardy turtle
bright jasper
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And since ranked is the only decent game mode there’s just no reason to play anything else. So if ranked is pointless and the rest of the game is too, why not allow us to do what we want

bright jasper
analog salmon
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i mean they're trying to make the game not suck and not make people wanna quit matches

analog salmon
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i dont think just removing quit penalities is the answer lol

bright jasper
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You have no argument

tardy turtle
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How do you know they're bad teammates if you quit on them? The quitter is always worse than those who try

river minnow
bright jasper
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You call that trying? They can’t even figure out what trigger is the gun and which is the grenades

tardy turtle
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And you know that... How?

analog salmon
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what your missing is its not their fault your in the same lobby as them

river minnow
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quitters deserve harsher and harsher punishments each time

analog salmon
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ideally the game would have a big enough population and a good matchmaking system so you dont even get put in the same lobby as vastly lower skill players

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i've had social games i lose my first FF, we all get wiped, and one guy quits immediately cus he thinks his whole team is trash

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its annoying cus i actually like the sweaties social games where im getting out played but some people have no chill and instantly quit

bright jasper
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You guys don’t seem to understand what this game does for my mental health. It’s literally designed from the ground up to make me hate every second of my life wasted on it

crystal iron
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It wasn’t designed that way, you designed your perspective to think that

bright jasper
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What is that

bright jasper
crystal iron
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Good for you, have a cookie

bright jasper
ruby knoll
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Modern gamers truly are.... something

bright jasper
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I still don’t know what you’re talking about

crystal iron
bright jasper
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So me becoming more and more angry and not having fun and feeling as though not only am I wasting time but also not accomplishing anything is not an issue with how the game is designed?

crystal iron
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Well no

bright jasper
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Because I’m kind of positive that’s the way they design these games

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To increase player retention

crystal iron
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I mean, would you say that about dark souls or sekiro

bright jasper
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Those are masterpieces

crystal iron
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I could easily say they’re meant to make me more and more angry and feel like I’m wasting time and not accomplishing anything

bright jasper
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But they’re not.

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They’re designed to reward you for improving

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From the ground up they’re built around you becoming better to progress

crystal iron
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And that’s what this game does too

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At least for ranked

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But I’m going off on a tangent, if you’re not finding the game fun and you’re finding it frustrating, stop playing it. Nobody is forcing you to play it, and you can always come back to it when you’re in the mood

bright jasper
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I disagree on that. The way ranked is designed in this game it does not reward improvement

crystal iron
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Sometimes spending time away from a game can help improve your thinking

bright jasper
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If you improve, in order to keep you at your specified hidden mmr, it will pair you with worse teammates or against much stronger opponents

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Or both

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You can’t actually tell you’re getting better because the game doesn’t want you to. It wants equilibrium so you feel compelled to play more

crystal iron
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Possibly

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I wouldn’t be able to tell you because ranked is currently unplayable for me lol

bright jasper
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I mean, that’s what they admitted to. The goal of a 50% win/loss no matter what is how they design these games, social or ranked

crystal iron
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Hm ok

bright jasper
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Actually omg that’s why they don’t want quitting to be common, it throws off the algorithm

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Jesus we just cracked the code

tepid latch
bright jasper
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This notion has been disproven

tepid latch
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okay

bright jasper
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Okay

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Take btb for example. If you do too well a few games in a row, your entire team will suddenly have less than 10 kills each, the enemy will get multiple tank drops, and you will be the only one positive on your team

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That’s not just balancing, that’s forcing you to lose

left snow
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And by "example", you mean a vaguely interesting anecdote? Of dubious accuracy.

bright jasper
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So you’re saying most people here don’t have a similar story?

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oh my god it’s this moron again, why do you always pop up to troll with stupid nonsense anyway,

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Blooooocked again scumbag

left snow
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I'm sure if you go back over your game history you'll find the occasional "unbalanced" game that ended a bit of streak. But you'll also find heaps of results that contradict it. It all balances out.

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That chat went well...

bleak nymph
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Ahh Darwi my old waypoint nemesis 😂 glad you're here.

bright jasper
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I’m being actively censored and that’s just wrong

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I get insulted directly by multiple people and nobody bats an eye, I insult a person that literally stalks me online and I get a warning. Adorable

left snow
tepid latch
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been actively reading the chat since you went on your rant about quitting and only saw people try and debate you, but no insulting 🤔

frosty condor
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Please don’t bring any Waypoint drama here

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This is a drama free zone

tepid latch
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there's waypoint drama?!?!?

frosty condor
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Just skimming the past several posts

tepid latch
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oh, fairo

left snow
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A rainy afternoon in Tasmania. Good time to hit up the man cave for some Halo. Pity about the 270ms pings. 😦

bright jasper
left snow
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???

tepid latch
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rainy down there? man its like 30+ °C here in Bris dont think we're seeing a drop today

lime robin
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You guys have chances of rain?

tepid latch
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0% by the looks

left snow
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14 degrees here. A couple of degrees cooler than I would like. 🙂 Can't stand the heat and/or humidity. I had to work in Kalgoorlie a couple of weeks ago and it was heading towards 45. 😦

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Just lost an epic game of CTF. It was 3 all with seconds to go and they managed to sneak a cap. 😦

Managed 23 & 18 despite the lag.

Game's always good when nobody quits.

tepid latch
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I think we've been on steady 30's for a couple weeks now, couple spikes about 35 🥵 my home office and actual office dont have ACs atm tho so its been a lil uncomfortable to work fullstop

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always love a game where noone quits, makes the game much more fun

bleak nymph
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-2 here 😎

bright jasper
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We just had a string of devastating tornadoes

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My local area is fine but surrounding areas don’t exist anymore

bleak nymph
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Sorry to hear that, I'm sure a lot of people have been affected.

bright jasper
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Does anyone on this discord regularly play infinite or is it a once a week thing at most

worldly tendon
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I play a match or two just about every day

bright jasper
river minnow
bright jasper
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that involves quitting, so how do you reconcile it

river minnow
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quit the game, not quit your matches

bright jasper
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what's the difference

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just turn off my pc lol

river minnow
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thats not what im saying lol

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just stop playing halo infinite as a whole

bright jasper
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then i'm walking around getting killed over and over for like 2 minutes while it catches up

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so here's a hypothetical: what if a game is extremely mismatched because a group, very often from a discord setting like this, is stacking their team to search against randoms to make themselves look good on stream and make everyone just trying to play the game after work look bad to boost their own egos and increase views on their videos? Is it acceptable to quit then, why or why not?

ripe thistle
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Oddly specific scenario that i dont think is as common as you think it is, but who knows

river minnow
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yeah when is that ever gonna happen

bright jasper
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literally every day

river minnow
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so the people you go up against every day are people from this discord, streaming to boost their egos?

bright jasper
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I play this game like once a week because I hate it, but yeah often

coarse dagger
river minnow
bright jasper
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its rare that I don't see teams in btb

river minnow
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youre always gonna have people stacking in that mode, its normal

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but the games should be decently balanced

bright jasper
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are you joking

river minnow
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no, i dont get rolled over in every game i play. and the times i do, i know its me doing badly and not them being amazing compared to me

bright jasper
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what's your GT I want to check that

river minnow
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idk what its gonna prove if i said i know i do badly in some of them but sure its on my discord profile

bright jasper
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I'm not seeing it

river minnow
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revenantss

left snow
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There once was a player who quit.
Any time that his Spartan was hit.
So many excuses...
But in fact the whole truth is -
At playing he was actually... not quite as good he thought he was. 🙂

river minnow
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pfft ive just seen my recent btb games and ive done awful, but again, the team hasnt been steam rolled lol

bright jasper
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you weren't playing any teams that I can tell, unless it was just small groups of friends or something. I'm talking about people who specifically stack to farm randoms

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I know a number of groups who do that. They hold the objective, etc.

river minnow
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oh yeah, thats because i was exclusively playing the 24/7 btb oasis map, but i cant see an option for it on halo tracker

bright jasper
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how do I have certain people blocked but they can still harass me, how do I make them not exist

river minnow
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yeah its not there

bright jasper
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too bad, I played that some too

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hated it. Ran into a couple of teams but mostly just hated the experience of playing with so many randoms

river minnow
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oh no it is there - nvm

left snow
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Does anyone have any advice for using the Shroud?

I tried using a few times to help my team in a game of oddball - but all it did was confuse everyone?

finite river
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shoot it off the map and never pick it up again is a good option

river minnow
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yeah just looked at it, 22 wins to 21 losses in btb unlimited, its pretty balanced

river minnow
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been waiting for someone to mention or make a video but seen nothing

bright jasper
river minnow
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best ive come up with is putting the enemy in a shroud screen to run away

bright jasper
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BUT, if you're stacking a team and stomping randoms all night, you're not going to lose matches at all

left snow
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It worked well once - when the ball carrier jumped up on the ledge next to PD (Streets). I put the Shroud over them to stop people shooting them. But that's just a silly place to take the ball in the first place.

bright jasper
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it is yes

coarse dagger
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There is no forced 50% win rate.
Each team is matched up with as close to a 50% chance of winning as it can make, it's up to each team to take the win

bright jasper
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So that's why certain people have disproportionately high kd/s and win rates. They stack teams and search easy matches against people that barely even know the controls

coarse dagger
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I can probably dig up a Josh Menke tweet for this

bright jasper
river minnow
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I could get an uny tweet too

river minnow
bright jasper
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yeah I placed D2, as I said in one of these threads I don't care about Onyx anymore because I can't see myself getting higher than I did previously

coarse dagger
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I just realised this conversation has been going for over 2 hours, jesus

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Take a break

bright jasper
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I did

river minnow
bright jasper
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the devs have lied about an awful lot of stuff

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this is one of them

coarse dagger
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Ok, time to move on now

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This is circular and boring

smoky wave
bright jasper
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use your noodles. they "balancing" the teams to achieve a 50/50 win rate? They attach anchors to players who are performing well

coarse dagger
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We're done with the conspiracy theories now

bright jasper
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they're not placing two teams of pros against each other to even it out, they're getting one pro per team and 3 people that just downloaded the game

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its not a conspiracy theory, and I'm just blocking you now for trolling

smoky wave
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LOL

coarse dagger
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Blocking staff is not advisable

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:)

smoky wave
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Sorry stckr you are now a troll 😔

left snow
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We know that TrueSkill2 is very good at assessing your rank. So all the system has to do is divide the "talent" evenly between the two teams and fate will do the rest. It doesn't have to manipulate anything.

Of course, it can't predict how said teams will "gel" together - so you will end up with some "unbalanced" results here and there. But overall everything will just keep drifting back to 50:50.

limber karma
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Can anyone give me advice as far as improving my aim consistency?

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Some days, my aim will be amazing, other days, not so much.

bright jasper
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part of that is just the game being inconsistent honestly

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from match to match it can be all over the place

young glen
river minnow
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just one last comment

zealous panther
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I mean, youtuber can't be wrong, because he feel like it, right?

willow nexus
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Did halo infinite screw up my controls? Y do they feel so slow compared to mcc?

obtuse storm
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Check your settings.

zinc glen
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what have I missed in Halo have they added anything to MCC?

willow nexus
zinc glen
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maybe its been a while since you played?

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and you're not yet used to the controls again

finite river
glacial tartan
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They did also remove the MCC section of the news page on Halo Waypoint.

limber karma
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@young glen Mouse and Keyboard

coarse dagger
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There's still work being done on MCC, but it's back to a "ready when it's ready approach".
I think for a lot of this they can't put realistic timescales on it

zinc glen
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you know what I'm impressed they are at where they are considering the mass firing

crystal iron
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I’m not gonna lie fiesta is probably the only mode I wish never returned lol

zinc glen
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what's wrong with fiesta?

limber karma
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So are you guys gonna nerf snipers?

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They are literally a game changer more than anything else in this game

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There are people who suck with every other weapon in this other than sniper and STILL do amazingly

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I mean straight up, they suck with every other weapon. No exaggeration. Base weapons, beam, name a weapon and they'll suck with it

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But a guy with a sniper is godlike just for holding that ONE weapon

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Legitimately, ANYONE who does well with a sniper. NOT ONE GAME

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He sucked with the pistol

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He sucked with the assault rifle. He sucked with EVERY other gun, yet he's at the top of the board just cause he knows how to snipe

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There's a HUGE difference between being a power weapon and just being BROKEN

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I'd rather deal with CINDER SHOT and SPANKERS

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Compared to the S7 garbage

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"Durrr, don't peak your head out" AND IF I NEED TO?!

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Give me one reason why S7 Sniper is balanced? It can two shot people, it can one shot people if it's not already doing that, it has a good amount of ammo, there are TWO of them at times meaning whomever is doing better with it automatically wins

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By the time the bullets are gone, another spawns

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TWO of them spawn on each map they're on

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You know what's sad? I'm not the only person who's complained about this.

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And the ones that have "defended it" have had 0 good reasons as to why and have just PROVEN it's a busted weapon.

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"Oh, just don't let them see you :B" Yeah, that's a bad sign you 2 year old.

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In a game where you have to LOOK at someone to kill them. Meaning you HAVE to let them see you.

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And if you don't, you STILL have to move forward most of the time.

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We just won a match and I can't even be happy about it. One thing I liked about this game is how diverse the weapons could be. Now, it's usually weapons that can 1 shot you and the S7 being the BIGGEST offender

tepid latch
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Omg @limber karma you're back to "Sniper too OP" again!? its literally a power weapon!

limber karma
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Weird... Is the Spanker a power weapon?

tepid latch
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YES

limber karma
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Is the Cinder Shot a power weapon? I'd rather deal with both of them.

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Being a power weapon and being overpowered are two different things damn it.

tepid latch
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The sniper is not overpowered tho

limber karma
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I have never seen someone get a rocket often enough and perpetually make it to the top of the leaderboard.

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I have seen plenty of people who have grabbed a sniper and it was over.

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Their score was amazing despite the fact that they suck at every other weapon. I mean EVERY other weapon.

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EVERY other weapon

tepid latch
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who tf are you constantly playing with my guy? mint blitz?

limber karma
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No. People in quick play

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Give me a reason why it's not OP

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A REAL reason

tepid latch
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Because it has terrible hip fire accuracy therefore its most consistent use is only from range

limber karma
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I've seen people do work with it without needing range as long as they use cover intelligently

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From up close.

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And don't tell me people can't no scope with that thing

tepid latch
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im not saying people cant no scope. im saying that there is much more skill involved in such a task, the same goes for even zooming in, with such a small reticle you still have a small point to aim at

limber karma
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I've done it and I barely used S7.

tepid latch
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same and same. plenty of luck to go around for all of us <3

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stop complaining cuz you're getting owned by snipers

limber karma
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Oh. You mean like the rest of my team?

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It's just a coincidence that the highest person on the board is always some jerk with an S7?

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Okay :B My bad

tepid latch
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probably not, the highest person on your team probably has the sniper because they have good accuracy

limber karma
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It's not even by a small margin

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Oh. Weird

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So whenever I see most of these people and they suck at an up close pistol fight, which is rare btw since they try to fish for S7

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And they miss every shot and I own them and dump on their face

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They have amazing accuracy. They even suck with assault rifle. It's pathetic how bad they miss.

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Honestly, I'm shocked they're good at aiming with just that 1 weapon.

tepid latch
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maybe the sniper people choose the sniper because thats what they're good at then my guy, its not a constantly spawning weapon on maps

limber karma
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Okay. Here's an issue with that argument. They get good at it. They finish all their bullets. Another one spawns.

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Legitimately, it has happened almost every time. They will be done with their ammo and guess what? "Power weapons, bla bla bla"

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WHOA!

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Guess what?!

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Just walked into another game and guess what's happening?

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In just a few seconds, most of my team died

tepid latch
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god pls send a clip or something, i wanna see this happening

limber karma
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You're legitimately one of the only people I have ever seen defend it.

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I was in a chat on here and other people were legitimately stating "Yeah. Every weapon like the S7 is broken."

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"That is the meta of the game right now."

tepid latch
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because i've never had issues like you're describing, if i see a sniper i hide til i can get upclose and take them out

limber karma
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But know what my biggest issue with it is? It's not fun. I can handle losing

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But not when I can't play.

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I almost never see any other weapon if that one exists on the map

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I almost never see the shotgun anymore. I almost never see the beam. I almost never see the needler.

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I'll once in a while see that blue plasma sniper rifle.

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Maybe a sword. Rarely a hammer.

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Funny enough, I will see the Plasma Pistol from time to time

modest violet
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I think one of the things to note is that people with good aim/accuracy are going to obviously pick weapons that have a high dmg output and less spread. Its obviously really annoying sometimes when someone on the other team is cracked with a sniper but like I personally know that’s them being good with the weapon/aim in general because if I pick it up I’m not going to perform that well necessarily

low musk
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Just 3 more Shock/Hardlight kills and 4 more AR/S7/SPNK/Bulldog kills and I have the weeklies done

limber karma
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Here's the issue I have with that. If I learn the S7, I can get good. You can get good. Anyone can. But almost every time I see someone who's good with the weapon, it's game over.

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Even when I have someone on my team who's good with it, I don't even get to do anything.

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I legit don't get to fight

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So it's like, why am I playing if the game's being played for me by one guy?

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And the insulting thing? Almost every sniper I see sucks with every other weapon. Including your base ones. And I'm not the first person who's said this or the last.

tepid latch
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I dont know what games you're playing because thats rarely ever the case for me? every map provides decent enough cover to avoid snipers and thats how i've always played it, there's never been a time where my entire team is absolutely pinned down by a sniper guy

low musk
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I think that is because the game has such a high speed that its going make alot of weapons feel slower in comparison

limber karma
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I once spawned on the new map Ethan and died before I could do anything.

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Guess what weapon killed me.

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Just take a wild stab

coarse dagger
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That's classic Halo

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That happens in pretty much every Halo game

limber karma
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Something being classic does not make it good.

coarse dagger
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It was how you held and won games in CE

tepid latch
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im off to play a nice game of halo

limber karma
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Nice game. sure

white osprey
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map knowledge and general positioning are what make a great sniper, alongside the accuracy. obviously, high vantage points with solid cover are where you'll most often find a sniper. cracked snipers are just some losers who learn the map by heart enough to just be unseeable the entire round. they (oftentimes) suck at most other weapons because of the accomodations for the sniper are different for that of an assault rifle (for example). knowing said vantage points, and how to get to them, weakens them by a long shot, because youre able to disarm them of the op position they have, where they thrive the most. basically, learn the vantage points and pray you dont end up in their crosshair while getting to them.

zinc glen
obtuse storm
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the game

tepid latch
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Infinite

obtuse storm
limber karma
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@white osprey Alright. If you feel so confident in those words, teach me to kill a sniper. I want to kill every single one

zinc glen
limber karma
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I want them to feel like they're pathetic and should cry to their mom cause they couldn't S7 someone

obtuse storm
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You still have to have skill

limber karma
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And I'm going to say you're wrong. It was an S7. I spawned and within a line of site

zinc glen
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skills get kills

limber karma
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from a far enough distance, I got headshotted

zinc glen
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I have an easy solution

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don't die

obtuse storm
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not dying usually helps, yeah

zinc glen
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exactly

limber karma
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That is such... I feel sorry for Ethan at this point cause he had better points than "Durr, don't die"

smoky wave
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Don't go the same place where the sniper expect a enemy going too

obtuse storm
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It

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is what it is

limber karma
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Tell me. How can I not die to an S7 and still bring the game in our favor?

white osprey
smoky wave
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Also you can shoot them and they can't scope so it is more difficult for them to snipe

limber karma
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So the best way to defeat a sniper is by using the weapon you guys were trying to defend about not being OP

zinc glen
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get gud grrr

limber karma
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Human logic makes me want to vomit

white osprey
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im not saying it isnt, im saying theyre using it to their advantage.

crystal iron
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Hi

zinc glen
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sup

smoky wave
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Other than that, learn your mistakes and see what strategy sticks

white osprey
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hello

limber karma
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I realize, you are correct. They are. Nerf.

obtuse storm
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halo's sniper is unchanged in how it deals damage over 20 years

white osprey
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nerfing them wouldnt make the snipers worse, itd make them smarter actually.

smoky wave
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The sniper is fine

obtuse storm
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it is indeed.

white osprey
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if they want to continue to play, theyll play around the nerf and use it to their advantage.

smoky wave
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Just learn how to deal vs them

crystal iron
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Nerfing sniper would be stupid. It is supposed to be powerful because it’s POWER weapon

zinc glen
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adapt and overcome

obtuse storm
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The game is not here to accommodate you. Learn to use the sandbox or suffer to it. it's how it's always been

white osprey
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in other words, learn basic positioning and youll be fine for the most part.

limber karma
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So let me ask. Why am I not complaining about Spankers or Cinder Shot? They're power weapons. They can one shot you.

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Well, mostly two shot with Cinder, but still

white osprey
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do you see snipers up front? rarely

smoky wave
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Because you have skill issue to deal vs snipers

obtuse storm
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Because they don't require skill

crystal iron
zinc glen
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snipers take skills

white osprey
obtuse storm
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go practice with the sniper

limber karma
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I don't want to use it.

white osprey
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well then dont

limber karma
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Okay, then I lose

crystal iron
smoky wave
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Then learn how to deal with them

white osprey
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learn to deal with said snipers

limber karma
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I've made the attempt. I've tried baiting out shots

white osprey
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they usually have counter-weapons

limber karma
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I've attempted to keep my distance and wait for a moment to go forward

smoky wave
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So you give up

limber karma
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I've attempted to sneak. I've attempted to run.

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Usually is a key word here.

white osprey
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distance is a snipers greatest advantage

limber karma
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Okay, and guess what? I've faced snipers who still do amazing up close cause as long as they keep their cool

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They can two shot you. And if they're really good, they can no scope one shot

white osprey
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theyre losers, but yeah.

smoky wave
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Did you tried to shoot them

limber karma
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Yes

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I did. The best outcome I got was they couldn't scope

obtuse storm
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yes. that's called skill

white osprey
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yeah,exactly. use their inability to scope to your advantage

limber karma
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Oh. So when they suck with literally every other weapon in the game, even the most basic ones

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They're skilled.

zinc glen
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then you have to rise to their level not demand they come down to yours

obtuse storm
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Yes

white osprey
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yup

limber karma
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That is stupid.

zinc glen
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no its not

obtuse storm
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If you're not as skilled as them

limber karma
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I mean, how can you not aim with a friggen pistol.

obtuse storm
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You die

crystal iron
obtuse storm
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the game is not going to hold your hand

limber karma
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Okay, and if they die to me when it's up close with pistol and assault rifle?

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And they had absolutely no chance?

obtuse storm
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AR wins

crystal iron
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Every multiplayer game looks like that. Better player wins

obtuse storm
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if they have more precision? pistol wins

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simple

white osprey
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again, accommodations for the sniper are different than those of a regular close range rifle

limber karma
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That's the issue. They will use AR and Pistol and SUCK with them

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They will miss almost EVERY shot and spam as if they've never used the weapon before.

obtuse storm
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some people are better than others. it's nothing new.

limber karma
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I've seen it happen multiple times

zinc glen
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everyone is good and bad at different things

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its how the world works

obtuse storm
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I know people that can trickshot the hell out of snipers and can't use an AR or even a BR to save their lives

limber karma
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Sure...

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I think I'm good on this conversation.

zinc glen
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they just so happen to be good at sniping

obtuse storm
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That is called skill differences.

limber karma
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Cause it's just, what's the point?

obtuse storm
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some people will be good with the whole sandbox, others will be good with a couple of weapons.

zinc glen
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either improve or don't play mp

limber karma
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I either stop enjoying the game to win or lose by playing what I like doing.

smoky wave
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Well you are literally dying to snipers that are easier to deal with them, so is not like you are in the position to talk who is good with the weapon or not

obtuse storm
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Would you complain about people being good with snipers in literally any other game? CSGO for example. people who snipe in that game are usually insane

limber karma
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Yeah. Kind of. They're annoying in almost every game.

obtuse storm
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you have no chance against them, so what. they're better than you.

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Then stop complaining and move on, or work to be better

limber karma
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I don't think you see my issue here.

obtuse storm
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I see it. I'm saying it's not the game's fault.

zinc glen
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what is the issue then?

crystal iron
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Good question

white osprey
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map knowledge gives you advantage over others, sniper or not. they have said map knowledge, apparently more than you, which leaves a gap between your skill and theirs.

limber karma
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It is legitimately not fun. And it's insulting that people who can't even master the most basic weapons are doing well just cause of one weapon. SO much so, that they top the leaderboard EVERY time.

zinc glen
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good for them

smoky wave
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Well, it is what it is

zinc glen
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they mastered that weapon and focused on it

limber karma
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I would rather see more diversity in this game. People use to pick up the shotgun, the needler, ANYTHING else.

obtuse storm
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diversity isn't going to save you from a good sniper lmao

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Go to any other halo and tell me it will.

limber karma
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Thank you. You just told me I no longer will have fun with this game.

zinc glen
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then improve

white osprey
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you need to learn to play against them

crystal iron
zinc glen
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or just don't play

obtuse storm
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I don't think you'd have fun with any multiplayer shooter. You either have to improve and learn how to counter or move on.

smoky wave
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This game has a lot of tools to deal in a lot situations
You are just bad to deal them

limber karma
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And if said weapon is changing the game?

white osprey
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not expect them to accomodate their games and play to you

limber karma
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Ugh...

obtuse storm
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That's called "power weapons"

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the team that controls power weapons dominates the game.

smoky wave
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The sniper is not going to change lol, it's fine right now

zinc glen
limber karma
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It's like when people said in Guilty Gear Strive "Durrr, Happy Chaos isn't overpowered." and the guy wins EVO by pressing 1 button over and over again

obtuse storm
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a power weapon can bring a team from the brink of failure to victory, if they know how to use it.

crystal iron
obtuse storm
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It's a bad one

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That's why

limber karma
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Yeah, well all I can understand is this. If I want to win, I have to learn to snipe.

smoky wave
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Literally different types of games too

limber karma
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I don't want to do that.

obtuse storm
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Fighting game tech and shooters are not the same style of competitive

limber karma
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I came on here cause I'm running out of games to enjoy.

zinc glen
obtuse storm
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learning a sandbox vs learning a move kit.

crystal iron
limber karma
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Sure I don't.

white osprey
limber karma
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Yeah. And you told me earlier Isaac, to counter them, snipe

white osprey
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you missed my point

limber karma
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Okay, so show me how YOU counter them

white osprey
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map knowledge

limber karma
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If you wish, you can DM me.

coarse dagger
limber karma
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Show me a video. A clip. Something

crystal iron
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😐

white osprey
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cutting off their LOS of you

zinc glen
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your name is so ironic

limber karma
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Thank you

zinc glen
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💀

white osprey
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you can also exploit them being far away, since they cant access objectives as easily

zinc glen
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or depending on map hide in a building or ambush them

white osprey
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yeah

zinc glen
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flank them

white osprey
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snipers are (mostly) weak when youre close to them, unless theyre absolutely cracked

zinc glen
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or run in a unpredictable way

crystal iron
#

There are many ways to counter snipers

white osprey
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strafing helps

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im p sure snipers are one of the easiest to counter

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if you do it right

zinc glen
crystal iron
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Sniper isn’t an enemy impossible to defeat

white osprey
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you could also make note of their, so called, blind spots. if nobody is covering them, which happens pretty often, theyre weak

limber karma
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It's not impossible, just improbable you will.

zinc glen
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or coordinate with your team to stop them

white osprey
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yeah

limber karma
#

And you act like cutting off their line of sight is some kind of easy process. If a map has a lot for you to see of them and you take any route you might THINK they can't see you, you're generally wrong cause Halo maps are usually designed to be more open ended from one side to another

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Sure, you have cover. but for how long?

zinc glen
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it is if your fast

limber karma
#

Are you just gonna sit there and turtle?

zinc glen
limber karma
#

God, that's boring...

crystal iron
#

POWER weapon

limber karma
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I don't care if you keep saying POWER weapon. I'd rather deal with S7 than a rocket or cindershot.

white osprey
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they could hard scope if they know youre there, which sucks, but dont make yourself easily readable

obtuse storm
#

then why are you complaining about snipers?

limber karma
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Both of them are power weapons. Both of them have less ammo. Both of them can potentially kill you too.

low musk
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Just gotta get 10 power weapon kills and I have the weekly

smoky wave
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Lmao

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Then why are you complaining about it

zinc glen
white osprey
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why would you complain then?

limber karma
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Cause 2 snipers usually spawn on a map and cause Snipers are generally WAYYYYYY more powerful.

crystal iron
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Wtf

smoky wave
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Shoot them

white osprey
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you have a gun, shoot them

smoky wave
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They can't scope anymore

zinc glen
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don't die then kill them

signal ivy
white osprey
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or camp spawns

low musk
# zinc glen perfect timing

Yeah, I just did all 10 of the challenges in the last few hours. I just flew back in from Maine, so I'm both tired and frantically getting challenges xD

limber karma
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If I see a person doing well with a Spanker, it's not like they suck with every other weapon too.

smoky wave
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Don't go to most probable places they expect the enemy too

limber karma
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The sniper is the ONLY time I see that crap

zinc glen
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because they put the effort to learn

white osprey
limber karma
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Good for them. So other weapons don't have a learning curve

crystal iron
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I don’t understand his point to be honest

limber karma
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Got it. I'll keep that in mind

white osprey
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frontline weapons generally take less skill

obtuse storm
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At this point the argument is cyclical.

smoky wave
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This is insane lmao

white osprey
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fr

crystal iron
zinc glen
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we keep repeating and repeating

smoky wave
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At this point I would call it and say skill issue, play better

white osprey
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it is one

obtuse storm
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Just move on at this point. It's a skill issue. Learn to deal with it, improve, or avoid it entirely.

zinc glen
crystal iron
low musk
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I'm generally garbage at this game. There was a time I used to be decent at halo in general. Not great, but not cruddy either. In this game, I feel very outclassed in most instances

zinc glen
#

same mate same

limber karma
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I didn't know skill determined something's power

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Got it. So if something requires skill, it's not overpowered. Understood

white osprey
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did you not listen?

obtuse storm
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So, the sniper has one of the lowest magnetisms of any weapon in the sandbox, it does indeed take skill.

crystal iron
obtuse storm
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Otherwise you miss your shots.

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A rocket, cindershot, or other AOE weapon has a larger radius of damage and explosion detection

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It takes more skill to use a sniper. Plain and simple. to put it bluntly: Get over it or git gud.

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This discussion's over.

crystal iron
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Sniper is not overpowered because it is supposed to be 1-2 shot kill weapon. It’s like that in every halo game and almost every shooter in general

low musk
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I'd worry more about the method that matchmaking works over the 'skill' issue

obtuse storm
#

I'm actually able to counter snipers. shrug

crystal iron
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Someone got angry lol

zinc glen
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lol

white osprey
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failed to mention, im speaking as said sniper. thats why i know so much lol

obtuse storm
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Like, really. It's been going over and over now.

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Just move on please.

coarse dagger
#

Now we definitely done

low musk
#

I can counter sniper pretty decently, just reposition, or use other sides of cover. Now aiming is a bit on the iffy side

zinc glen
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I'm crap at PvP so I tend to stick to PvE modes

low musk
#

Firefight when? lol

white osprey
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dont snipers have an animation that you can track? loser move but it gets the job done

crystal iron
white osprey
zinc glen
low musk
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Hopefully PVE modes will make its way in at some point

white osprey
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i, personally, prefer the lack of human communication and toxicity

zinc glen
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same

zinc glen
white osprey
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it also helps me get better

crystal iron
white osprey
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seriously

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ive had so little chill matches its insane

left snow
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I've got nothing but respect for a skilled sniper. The magic they can weave. It can turn a game.

Personally I couldn't hit a barn door with a dozen warthog's.

white osprey
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you can also practice tracking before that, just following your target ups the accuracy by a lot

zinc glen
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they can be annoying to deal with but I still respect them

crystal iron
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Yeah

white osprey
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there are also, oftentimes, good and bad aim days where you either hit every single headshot or cant even hit a body shot

crystal iron
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True

white osprey
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bad aim days are... not favourable, imo

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since you can either log off, or spend millennia staring at the training bots

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wondering whats wrong with you today

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and it, usually, doesnt even "fix" itself, so just log off and play something else

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dont dwell on it

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i mean, i could go on, but i'd probably talk your ear off

low musk
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Warthogs feel very inaccurate in this game. I could keep my reticle on a target, even at close range, but they can always seem to kill me just as fast

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Its like the game actively wants you to miss with vehicle weapons, where as before, a good gunner could keep an area locked down. Kinda sucks that vehicles are definitely not at its best

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Just need 3 more power weapon kills and I got this

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Kinda slow period to find games

crystal iron
zinc glen
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Kyrgyzstan

left snow
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Just had a great custom session with mates. A bit of BTB and then into customs. Spicy Sumo Bowl. Digletts. Snipers. And to finish off - shotguns on Beaver Creek (thanks, Uneeq).

low musk
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Just finished the weekly capstone, so I'm spared from the FOMO xD

full warren
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Has 343 removed the ability to see the team average csr or mmr at the end of the game?

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I swear you used to be able to see it, and there will be a average mmr or csr score if you look next to teams

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but that seems to be gone?

low musk
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New engine means old features have to be built from the ground up, old assets and interfaces being defunct is sadly the result

full warren
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Are you replying to me or someone else?

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Halo infinite has not changed. nor has the csr system I do not think

magic night
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I think that was only in Ranked matches' post game reports

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Haven't played Ranked in a while, so no clue if its changed

full warren
zinc hedge
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anyone got any tips for getting past the spawn room on gravemind in h2 on legendary?

magic night
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Been close to a decade since I last tried that, so I barely remember, but those doors that enemies come out of have decently long hallways you can use as cover to regen your shields.

north stag
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I don’t but I just watched a video analyzing the level and talking about it being one of the hardest parts of the mission

tardy turtle
magic night
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That too. Counselors seats should get you better range weapons from the Brutes up there.

bleak nymph
# zinc hedge anyone got any tips for getting past the spawn room on gravemind in h2 on legend...

The "pro strat" is to get inside one of the small doorways on the side of the room, which prevents some enemies from spawning altogether.

But for a more casual player getting on top of the councilor stands gives you the best cover, and only one set of enemies spawn there.

The Carbine and Needler are going to be real friendly for a lot of the mission. Needles are extremely effective for Brutes, and Carbines for most other enemies.

tardy turtle
#

Everything after that was just the normal infuriation, but that spawn room...

empty rapids
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i'd give a whole two fitty to get allies with braincells

karmic oriole
#

Whats the update for?

signal ivy
ancient sun
empty rapids
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lol if that made yall mad yall weak

ancient sun
# empty rapids lol if that made yall mad yall weak

it was an incorrect statement...

When the game expected you to have 10 deaths, and you only had 8, it would say 'underperformed' because they incorrectly tied 'getting a lower than expected stat' to the message of 'underperforming'

It didn't make me mad that I was potentially 'underperforming' and being called out.
It made me mad because it was poor design and an incorrect statement.

empty rapids
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underperforming in dying is a good thing

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thats not something you want to overperform at lol

ancient sun
empty rapids
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🤷

ancient sun
#

either way, it's gone now

empty rapids
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it was fine

ancient sun
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'below expected' leaves no room for misinterpretation.

misty vale
# empty rapids it was fine

have you been on halo reddit? Fans of this game exist in a black hole of misery so of course they complain that it didn't mean what it read as.

glossy carbon
magic night
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Correction: fans

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Fans of anything

glossy carbon
#

yes

empty rapids
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i straight up remember kids getting clowned on for having a -kda back in the golden days when ever kid and their mom had a kinect, IE microphone lol

empty rapids
glossy carbon
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indeed

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i keep getting recommended tweets about this person hating everything about halo even though i keep telling the platform not to recommend anymore

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its such terrible takes too

ancient sun
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I think they just removed any wording for the deaths at all

empty rapids
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Even if they changed it, people would have complained too lol

misty vale
empty rapids
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you can't please this community 🤷

ancient sun
empty rapids
misty vale
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It is my experience with Infinite that there will be no reduction in complaining

smoky wave
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The underperforming part didn't makes sense to begin with

ancient sun
smoky wave
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In some matches I died like 1 or 2 and told me exactly that

ancient sun
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it was just such a backwards way of putting it

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it was kinda like a double negative

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unnecessary

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and unclear

smoky wave
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There is also the argument of kinda feeling bad for some people, other than that it is basically worthless that stat

empty rapids
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lol get good

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if you suck in a competitive shooter, you should know it

ancient sun
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Waypoint tracks your expected kills kills and expected deaths for each match, @smoky wave
This was just trying to show it in-game.
It was not worthless, just poorly framed

smoky wave
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Meh, feels that way honestly

empty rapids
#

people are so sensetive now that you can't even have the thank system from OW1

ancient sun
smoky wave
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Fair enough

empty rapids
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idk maybe my view is old fashioned lol

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i like having the stats that exist in infinite, in a lot of newer games they just outright hide them

smoky wave
#

In most games those stats is provided by third parties using the API of the games
So it's kinda like whatever to not put all and just show the most important stats

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Some with more details in-game if you want

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Improved stability when navigating Customization menus on PC.
Oh cool finally

low musk
#

Is the game not working atm for anybody else?

signal ivy
#

did you update?

low musk
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No update seems to be showing up

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Maybe its just slow to dole it out for the moment

shadow turret
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What do you boot the game off of? Xbox, Steam, or the Microsoft store?

low musk
#

XBSX

shadow turret
#

I'm not too sure when the update will drop for that, I run it off Steam

low musk
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I'll just restart the Xbox and see if that helps

shadow turret
#

Yea, idk if it will, but its a good try

low musk
#

Ah, there it is

shadow turret
#

There ya go

devout kite
#

Why haven’t 343 removed infection from the popular mode file

crystal iron
#

I don't think pc is ever going to get a performance/optimization patch

celest heron
#

so many knives on armor, but we can't use them.

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😐

fallen flame
crystal iron
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so far there's only been stability fixes

ancient sun
uneven bison
#

I’ve heard people say assassinations are hard to implement, is that true?

lime robin
#

Animation is always hard and Halo 5 set the bar pretty high on that regard, but there was a complaint about being able to turn them off disrupted the flow of the game, something like that.

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Basically some people don't want them because it'd make them an easy target and there can be accidents where they just wanted the backsmack but went for an assasination

uneven bison
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That’s what I was saying too. An animation like that isn’t easy

fallen flame
#

most people had them off anyway

uneven bison
#

Sure it’s doable, but to have a ton of different ones you could do like halo 5? That takes effort

celest heron
#

thinking of new ones would be a challenge

uneven bison
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Probably only for higher level enemies

fallen flame
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i think they should skip assassinations for infinite

uneven bison
fallen flame
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Problem is if you add those your gonna have more useless stuff get added to the BP

uneven bison
magic night
#

I'm all for having flashier teabags back

fallen flame
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Problem with the S3 BP its cluttered like crazy with same items

uneven bison
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I just want bulkier shoulder pads for the Mark 7. Like security or commando bulky

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Deming doesn’t really cut it for me

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Or they make shoulder pads cross core like visors. Probably not though

fallen flame
#

cross-core is looking rather slim i would love to have it especially helmets but i just don't think its gonna happen personally if it does great i will be a happy man haha

ancient sun
#

With the forums being decommissioned in just a few days, I thought I'd share this thread about the loss of Spartan Companies.
Many people actually really loved building their own community around Halo 5, and as you can see in the thread, people were sad to see them gutted.

Forums going away, while understandable from a maintenance/usage standpoint, is just as sad.
https://forums.halowaypoint.com/t/the-end-of-spartan-companies/107766/19

tardy turtle
#

Well, I mean there is the clan corner here

glass spade
#

Is halo infinite campaign good?

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I heard it was pretty big and there’s a lot more bosses but I wanna ask if it’s worth a try

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Rn I’m playing through Spartan Ops and 5 cause I wanna finish those beforehand

magic night
#

I enjoyed it

glass spade
#

I played it until I killed Tremonius and I did like what I played

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But I wanna save the rest for after I’m done the previous games

magic night
#

That sounds good. I always prefer to do things in release order.

glass spade
#

Yeah, first halo game for me was actually halo 3 but I somewhat recently got the MCC and decided to play em in order

mental trench
#

Anyone know why I can’t find ranked matches?

signal ivy
#

where is the last place you put them?

grave ether
#

Where was the last place you left them?

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Nice xD

ancient sun
#

oh hey, I just noticed this

smoky geyser
#

how big is halo infinite on pc

ancient sun
smoky geyser
#

the trend i seem to notice is that

halo 4 had a good campaign and multiplayer
halo 5 only had good multiplayer
halo infinite had a solid campaign but multiplayer took a while

ancient sun
#

I guess if you liked it, that's cool

smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

personally i just think Halo 4 had an okay story and that's really it. I would much rather replay Halo 5's campaign cus it's actually fun lol.

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and i say this as someone who first played 5 in like 2018 and has barely touched the MP

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i dont really get the whole "4 had a good campaign, 5's is terrible" takes

smoky geyser
#

im so lost on what the actual game size of halo infinite is

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im not sure if its 44gb or 81gb

smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

depends on your platform, campaign, and textures

smoky geyser
#

like ur telling me a grenade took him down/?

limber fox
#

did the settings reset bug got fixed with this patch?

analog salmon
#

81 sounds like base+campaign+high quality textures

smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

MP is included in the base

smoky geyser
#

i thought u were able to play these seperately from each other

analog salmon
#

you can't uninstall the MP

smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

nope

signal ivy
#

campaign is the DLC for MP

smoky geyser
#

ah

analog salmon
#

probably intentional to get everyone to try out the MP

smoky geyser
#

problem is that i doubt my system can manage the multiplayer lol

analog salmon
#

far more likely it cant handle campaign

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MP is playable on quite a lot of systems

#

campaign meanwhile is very GPU and CPU hungry

smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

assuming you have no thermal constraints yeah

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campaign is just kinda unreasonably resource hungry

#

mostly on GPU I would say, so downing the resolution should be okay. It's not easy on CPU but its an open world game so kinda expected

signal ivy
#

isn't vega 8 integrated gpu? I don't think Infinite supports that

analog salmon
#

oh yeah the game is now blacklisting unsupported hardware lol

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i have a mate who played on vega 8 but not recently

smoky geyser
smoky geyser
analog salmon
#

probably a kneejerk response to crashes on lower end hardware

smoky geyser
lime robin
strange estuary
analog salmon
#

i mean a 1060 3GB could run the game fine but it got blacklisted with Season 3

lime robin
smoky geyser
strange estuary
#

reject infinite, return to odst firefight

analog salmon
#

cant say for sure but it does seem like they have just made the game not launch with less then 4GB vram

smoky geyser
signal ivy
lime robin
strange estuary
#

reject infinite, return to odst firefight

analog salmon
#

possibly. I could try with my laptop's 4GB 1050 to see if its vram, since that's unsupported but does have enough vram

smoky geyser
#

how long ago was the change madde

analog salmon
#

S3

smoky geyser
signal ivy
#

Season 3 was released on March 7th

lime robin
#

!s3

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Alr, that doesn't work anymore

sullen kilnBOT
#

Season 4 launches on <t:1687284000:F> which is <t:1687284000:R>

lime robin
teal scarab
#

wait, what happened to the event?

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oooh, not this week

stone raven
#

what are your thoughts on halo wars one brutes?

ruby lake
#

bruh

signal ivy
#

lol

ruby lake
#

i did not come back just to see the event just ended like that 🏴‍☠️

sullen kilnBOT
#

The FIREWALL event weeks are scheduled for the following dates:

Week 1: March 21-28
Week 2: April 11-18
Week 3: May 23-30
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ruby lake
#

🏴‍☠️

stone raven
signal ivy
#

nothin

stone raven
stone raven
signal ivy
stone raven
signal ivy
#

ok?

crystal iron
stone raven
smoky geyser
#

@signal ivydoes halo infinite have like a ready to play feature like the xbox has, where u can play the game while its downloading

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on pc