halo-discussion

[full warren]

2/18 adn 6/14. they had 32 of the 50 deaths.

[signal ivy]

aww, they're just doing their best

[full warren]

Well they can do it vs players of their level, I don't understand why they were even put in this match, thats what I am more pissed about. the game just decide, you need to lose now

[sullen anvil]

Yyeaaaahhh I really dislike how I get matched with terrible teammates just because I won a couple games

I kinda think it should be so that you get paired with opponents and teammates with the same skill level

Or just make it completely random I don’t care

[left snow]

Oh God no. Completely random would be -yoink-.

I think the MM is doing it's best with who is available. But it's going to struggle with people on the tails of the skill curve (very good and very bad) and those who squad up with friends of different skills.

Especially if the server population is a bit dry.

As for winning a couple of games - if you are in form your MMR will go up and you may get tougher games and/or weaker team mates. But that's OK because you are in good form. You should do OK?

[grave ether]

I'm not disagreeing that they should be with players of their own skill level, but I'm saying it's not their fault and they shouldn't be the one banned or punished because going 2/18 sounds like punishment enough.

[sleek hatch]

What were their ranks and yours?

[left snow]

Definitely. I've played in many lobbies way above my pay grade.

You can definitely tell the Onyx types who play well with arrow fodder, and those that don't.

It's all about helping me to survive and feasting on my assists. But we'll have a much better chance of winning if you aren't running solo and endlessly berrating me.

[crystal iron]

You want to ban people for not being good enough in video game?

[grave ether]

I know if I'm up against a team that it's obvious they have a low skilled player, I know many times they won't be with their team because their team typically leaves them behind so it's easy to target them and farm kills off of them.
If I notice someone like that is on my team I do my best to become their partner/wingman and protect them from ending up in 1v1s or more and that normally will end up helping our teams side. Maybe not enough to win but enough to not have it be a shut out.

Try adopting lower skilled players, it helps everyone out

At the very least use them as a meat shields and help confirm/clean up their kills lol

[full warren]

It doesn't work because if you baby sit them you lose the map, they will pick up rockets, snipers and you just be stuck in base doing thing

[grave ether]

You can do both. Think tactically, help guide them on the mic

[full warren]

lol mic no one uses mic

[grave ether]

Do it anyway

[full warren]

in my 3000 games I had like 10 games with someone who speaks

[grave ether]

Be the change

[full warren]

why should I change to make up for 343's terrible match making system

especially those are random people, if they were my friends I would teach them the game

why do I bother with a random who I will never see

[grave ether]

Because you chose to play that system.
You can either make it better for yourself or continue to suffer.

[full warren]

Well I will play until a better game comes along basicly

[grave ether]

Have fun

[left snow]

I would recommend using your mike anyway. It's amazing how many people are still listening / taking suggestions - even if they lack the confidence to actually talk themselves. Myself being a case in point.

[full warren]

Why do people always suggest talking, I don't want to talk and most people do not talk in this game

[grave ether]

Remember too, sometimes we are that low skilled player on the team. We may go 4/13 in a match, doesn't mean we should be banned eh?

[full warren]

When people talk its just swearing and abuse

thats why I mute the mics

actually I have the whole voice thing desiabled

[grave ether]

• Plays a game where teamwork and coordination can be the main advantage over a team without mics
• wonders how talking could be an advantage
  

[full warren]

You think people know what call out are when you are that bad at the game? other than saying, dont die

[grave ether]

I encounter it often so, yeah

[full warren]

well like I said i had the mic on in the last 100 games 0 person spoke

[grave ether]

But I think you had a bad match and are looking to vent, that's cool and all, but I like trying to find ways to improve and make situations better.
May your future matches be more balanced

[magic night]

You know where team balancing doesn't really matter and you won't get matched with bad teammates? FFA

[full warren]

The problem is almost every single game I have.... its unbalanced, I am literally always top of the team and I never win because of my skill, because no matter what I do it all depends on my team mate, this is fustrating because I can't hold the ball and slay or run the flag and watch the corners

I know I should quit the game because I know its not going to improve but I just love halo even tho halo hates mnk players and anyone outside america

It basicly its because the tiny population outside america thats why I am in these stupid games because there is no one left to balance the teams, they have to make these stupid teams because thats the only people playing at this moment in europe

[young glen]

When you play with randoms I don't think you're entitled to get mad about their performance. It's part of the risk, especially if you don't communicate and try to lead.

[devout kite]

That makes no sense

[rare lantern]

I’m diamond 2 and in the last 3 games I’ve been playing against teams with two onyx players…….. who designed this ranking system? If the idea is to get rid of as many players as fast as you can, job done

[magic narwhal]

Hello, i have a question about halo infinte coop campaign, is it possiblr to play coop with a friend that doesnt have the game?

[proven pollen]

No, they will need to have purchased the campaign I believe

[magic narwhal]

Oof, thank you!!

[quasi scarab]

Haven't played any Halo games for awhile now, looking to get back in. I checked in on Waypoint.... all the service record data is either missing or incorrect? ex: says I never finished Halo 5 campaign but I have the achievement for doing so?

[proven pollen]

hmmm, could be just a hiccup on Waypoint

if you have the achievement on your xbl account then you have it

[devout kite]

Or gamepass

[proven pollen]

also true

[full warren]

I have long stopped caring about ranked. Playing vs onyx plays while in D3 is no fun

[tardy turtle]

That's why I think ranked needs to be scrapped; people get too worked up over it, start suggesting performance bans

[devout kite]

Maybe that person needs a break from rank in my opinion

[sleek hatch]

Send me 2 of your vods.

Or even 1

[full warren]

How?

[sleek hatch]

Post it to YouTube as unlisted or private and send me the link

[full warren]

lol Im not going to do all that lol, I thought there was like a share button or something

But what has my vod got to do with who I play with?

[olive brook]

is mcc matchmaking like having a stroke

[stone raven]

why does 343 hate playable elites?

[glossy carbon]

The real reason is most likely that they just arent interested in that area

alotta devs are stubborn on their vision

[glossy carbon]

yea no thats not how that works

[stone raven]

yeah I don't understand why 343 hate halo why the try to turn it into something that its not

[signal ivy]

omg

[glossy carbon]

read the room honey. They dont hate halo and they dont want to make it bad on purpose

its far more complicated

[stone raven]

well they hired people who hated halo

[signal ivy]

you should read that entire quote

[glossy carbon]

the old interview with the guy who doesnt work there anymore

[signal ivy]

Frankie is still there

[glossy carbon]

oh ok then but still

[coarse dagger]

"We had people who we hired who hated Halo because of 'X,'" says O'Connor. "But what that really meant was, 'I feel like this game could be awesome because of 'Y input' that I'm going to bring into it. I want to prove it, and I'm passionate about proving it.' So we ended up with a bunch of people who were genuinely passionate about the product. That is a huge advantage, and that helped in hiring and forming our team."
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/making-i-halo-4-i-a-story-about-triple-a
Hated was more than likely a much stronger word that Frank meant to use at the time, but you rarely get to follow up / clarify these things before they're cemented in

[glossy carbon]

thank you

[signal ivy]

I have a feeling no matter what we say it won't make a difference

[stone raven]

well 343 clearly have no idea what halo is and they change it into something that's it's not rather than just taking the halo everyone knows and loves and perfecting it

[signal ivy]

called it

[glossy carbon]

imo they do have many bad decisions and practices that are everywhere in the gaming industry. But the core value and gameplay is still very much halo and has good potential

i enjoy infite despite its many flaws and like to see it improved

[magic night]

I think removing playable elites took Halo one step closer to perfection

[stone raven]

I just hope other studies like id software get to make stuff like spin off games

[ruby knoll]

Id cant make mp though

They suck at it :^)

[smoky wave]

Id software lol

[glossy carbon]

certain affinity and creative assembly know how to work with halo aswell

i wouldnt mind spinoffs but id love for infinite to become better like fixing many forge issues

[stone raven]

well I want knew halo games like a flood horror game

[glossy carbon]

could become a spinoff

maybe someday they do it

[stone raven]

well I dont think the halo battle royal should be made

[glossy carbon]

imo theres no real signs of it releasing anyways

there are rumors and leaks and since the layoffs that prolly wont be a thing

its too late for a br anyways so not doing it would be a good move

[coarse dagger]

Reminder that while rumors are ok, leak discussion is not

[glossy carbon]

i see

[smoky wave]

Tbh I would love to see a Halo br

[glossy carbon]

it could be fun

but it wont save the reputation of this company and the masses wont flock to it like they would have in 2020

[tardy turtle]

It's HALO TIME CST

[uneven bison]

To be fair, most of the people my age need everything dangled in front of them like a toddler with keys.

Ex: marvel movies

And a sizable portion don’t even watch movies, so that’s not even 100% true

[tardy turtle]

I'd love to see much more single player content like Halo Reach. Our Spartan, rather than an established character, keeping the customization open

[covert iris]

That actually sounds cool.

[static gust]

Any can help me with a problem me and a friend got halo MCC version on steam we both downloaded it and started it up but we are unable to invite eeach other

[final eagle]

should i buy burgundy spear for spi?

[static gust]

keeps saying player failed to join

[novel flicker]

Why does every time i log into a halo mach the game machmakes me with the most dogwater players on the halo comunity against the MOST FRIGGIN SWEATY TRYHARDS AND CATBOYS WHY 343 WHY WHAT DID I DO TO DESERVE THIS

[crystal iron]

fortnite forge in halo when

[glossy carbon]

i get that too its really weird

[covert iris]

I would say calling your fellow Spartans "dogwater" is a type of bad karma that gets you less talented teammates because the veteran ones dislike you calling fellow Spartans "dogwater"... But I could be wrong.

[glossy carbon]

its just messed up matchmaking

[kind palm]

you think we'll ever get more free helmets for chimera or is merrow the the best we'll get

[sleek comet]

is anyone having trouble playing this game? i get up to the title screen but when i press enter its trying to make me sign up with xbox or something

[sullen kiln]

You may refer to #1075989764026675210 if you are in need of community based assistance. This is strictly community sourced and operated and is not staffed by any official members of the Support team.

For official support, you'll need to go to the Halo Support site: https://aka.ms/HaloSupport

[sleek hatch]

Hindsight is 20/20, plus you can see all your mistakes( and learn from them), and see how you can better assist your team, what you need to work on etc...

Plus you can see how certain people like to play.

Most people plateau in first person shooters because they don't review their vods.

[stone raven]

what do you want to happen to halo in the future?

[smoky oasis]

Unique and replayable single player experiences, battle royale, Halo Wars 3 with space battles.

[sleek hatch]

Grifball

Competitive grifball

Grifball but more grifbally

[smoky oasis]

I have a sneaking suspicion this man wants Grifball.

[sleek hatch]

Grifball with evade
Grifball with repulse
Grifball with grapple

It's the Playlist we need and deserve!

Grifball where the ball carrier turns into grif and the enemies turn into sarge or caboose.

Grifball where I can spawn kill the enemy team like I did in halo reach.

And finally

bandit starts then using data to tweak the Sandbox(if needed) wasp and banshee battles would be cool, some more weapons too eventually, and most importantly

Grifball

[smoky wave]

Sleepyball

[stone raven]

do you think we will get any spin off games in the future?

[signal ivy]

maybe

[smoky wave]

Who knows

[crystal iron]

No one knows. It’s unpredictable. I just hope that we will get halo wars 3 and ODST 2 one day.

[sleek comet]

how do you kill the white enemies?

[coarse dagger]

What do you mean?

[sleek comet]

the enemies that are white, how do you kill them?

[crystal iron]

White enemies?

[sleek comet]

yes

[coarse dagger]

What game and what do they look like exactly?

[crystal iron]

I don’t know about what you are talking about. Can you be more specific? Which game and what they do?

[sleek comet]

just the quickplay mode and theyre white, kind of glowing i think?

[signal ivy]

oh overshields?

[coarse dagger]

Ah yeah, that's probably it

[crystal iron]

Other players? They have overshield so it means that they have more health

[stone raven]

well didn't 343 say in 2019 that spin off game would come some time after infinite?

[crystal iron]

I don’t know

[coarse dagger]

Then 2020 happened

[signal ivy]

the dark times

[smoky wave]

Covid moment

[stone raven]

what are your thoughts on the halo artbooks?

[signal ivy]

they're fantastic

[stone raven]

is there one for reach?

[signal ivy]

not one for Reach specifically

[stone raven]

well there should be one

[signal ivy]

Maybe 13 years ago it would have been a better time for it

[stone raven]

well which is your favorite art book?

[stone raven]

still can happen

[signal ivy]

the Art of Halo 4

[signal ivy]

sure

[stone raven]

mine is the art of building worlds

[strange estuary]

I won't take this arbiter blasphemy

[crystal iron]

Heresy!

[magic night]

If there weren't such glaring balance issues with elites, I might reconsider, but I don't think they could solve that without sweeping changes, like in Reach.

[analog salmon]

I literally just want players to have another chance to buy armour and other items that were in the shop for literally one day in S1 or S2. Who cares about elites or more cores when the cosmetic availability in this game is still so garbage

You’ll miss the one day your favourite elite armour is available and then 343 will tell you to get stuffed

Frankly they can make as many strides forward as they like, the cosmetic system in this game still sucks until they address the absurd degree of FOMO

[fallow merlin]

Do elites have bigger hit boxes in Halo 2?

Multiplayer

[devout kite]

I don’t see it happening because why would 343 release an art book 13 years late

[fallow merlin]

Who exactly is the elite referring to when he says “I do not trust you. He may. But I do not.” Because then Arbiter comes in and right after that and Locke must earn his trust. So who trusted him in the first place? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1G2uz26smY0

The colored visors on Osiris is actually pretty cool. Shame it wasn’t in the actual game iirc.

Did Blur also do these intro and outro cutscenes for Halo 2A (basically Halo 5 teasers)? Because they did a better job with Halo 5’s art style than actual Halo 5. The lit up visors on the spartans and the much better Swords Of Sanghelios armor designs with the red and gold. The gold mandibles are awesome.

[ebon warren]

Anyone high gold low plat want to rank?

[signal ivy]

#lfg-competitive

[ebon warren]

Oh shoot my bad

[signal ivy]

all good

[crystal iron]

https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1639439494888951808?s=20

Halo Support (@HaloSupport)

A #HaloInfinite patch improving stability and addressing top Forge issues is planned to be released next week. We'll provide an update when we've confirmed the release date, so stay tuned! Full patch notes will be shared when the patch is available for download on all platforms.

Twitter · Mar 25, 2023, 1:30 AM

[strange estuary]

coolio

[stone raven]

what are your thoughts on these scrapped brute animations? https://twitter.com/i/status/966905535877414912

[tardy turtle]

Ah, I remember those from back in the day

That'd definitely keep an M rating

[stone raven]

well why where they scrapped?

[tardy turtle]

Probably time, or probably too graphic for 2007

[stone raven]

well I hope we see those animation in future games

[stone raven]

well they should have kept the duel wielding energy swords

that would have been sick

[serene furnace]

Sometimes cutting some content out is the right call

Halo 2 was originally gonna have a ton of cutscenes where the prophets would explain the Arbiter more about the origins of the Covenant and their victories and losses. In universe it would have been kind of dumb because as an Elite of a very high rank the Arbiter most likely knows a lot of that already, and out of universe it would have been exposition dump that ruins the pace of the story

[stone raven]

well what wrong with duel wielding energy swords?

[serene furnace]

It would have been cool to see but ultimately useless in gameplay. If the player dual wields swords they're holding an instakill weapon in both hands, there's basically no difference besides having more ammo perhaps. Other than that only Elites would dual wield them, and as your allies it would be the same deal, and if an enemy used them it would still be the same as with one or 2, they're still holding an instakill weapon

[stone raven]

oh yeah your right

[cosmic geyser]

Note to self: Energy swords don't work on Wardens

[crystal iron]

what if duel weilding swords wasn't for a damage boost but for being able to swing the second one while the first one was in animation (good for infection when lots of zombies are coming at you)

[cosmic geyser]

Whatever the hell those artillery cannon knights are called, they suck.

[tardy turtle]

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

There's a book in one of the Halo Infinite maps by an "Ivan Yakushev"

My main character in my books has the last name Yakusheva (the female form of the surname)

[sullen anvil]

Infinite getting another patch/update next week! Good stuff

[cosmic geyser]

wow three wardens in a row this game is so creative

[tardy turtle]

?

[cosmic geyser]

Mission 13 on 5

You fight one warden and then 2 more right after eachother

[tardy turtle]

I mean, he does have many platforms, and is trying to stop you

[cosmic geyser]

That doesn't make it better.

You're forced to deal with 2 of the most annoying bosses at once

Unless you have a shotgun they take a decent bit to go down

[tardy turtle]

Treat them like a Hunter and aim for the back?

[cosmic geyser]

You realize that they still take a fairly decent bit to go down, right?

[tardy turtle]

I mean, you did say it: Boss Battle

[cosmic geyser]

With a shotgun you can one stun them

[cosmic geyser]

""Bosses""

[tardy turtle]

I really fail to see the egregious issue here. It's a boss battle, and the enemy type is an ancilla with numerous bodies to throw at you.

[cosmic geyser]

three of the same "boss" enemy in one level is not creative

It's not even difficult, it's just annoying.

[tardy turtle]

So why play it?

[cosmic geyser]

Because almost everything else about 5's campaign is fun

[strange estuary]

no pc port 🥹

[karmic oriole]

Can yall explain to me, a real explanation, why people join a game to not play? Or just leave? What's the reason? What's the purpose?

I can get on halo 3 right now and that will never happen ever, I've never in my entire life of playing halo 3 each, 2, or 4 have I had people join to leave never

[crystal iron]

I sometimes leave because I have to. Just one of those things. I try not to do it frequently, but life happens. From postings I've read before, some hate the type of game mode and just bounce vs staying.

Anyone got mcc

[karmic dirge]

Halo MCC is so hard to add friends into a lobby on Xbox

We've had to restart our games several times to play 1 round

[karmic oriole]

I understand that. That makes sense. And that would be acceptable if it happened maybe once every few games

But when I join a btb game and a minimum of 3 teammates aren't playing, that's messed up there's gotta be behind the scene stuff doing that on purpose

I got 4 games back to back, 2 left, and at least 3 not playing

[brave carbon]

curious if push to talk now works on controller

[serene furnace]

It almost reminds me of a certain recycled Scarab fight in Halo 3 of which you fought 2 at the same time once

[smoky stone]

FFA right now is garbage. Needs to have AR/BR starts. Period.

The AR/Pistol start on FFA is totally based on random spawns. It becomes nothing based on skill whatsoever.

[glossy carbon]

Nope

I've wanted that for a long time but i can live with it since theres the callout function in infinite

[left snow]

The callout functions are good.

But we need something for when we've died - so we can ping "one shot on my X" or "dirty filthy camper with camo and sword here".

It could just be a handful of generic options.

[ruby knoll]

Soooo i don't get why people are comparing fortnite's mod tools to forge when forge is an ingame tool and fortnite's is external

It's like comparing forge to unity

[glossy carbon]

Because funny number company bad. That's why

People like to conplain

[ruby knoll]

It's like if I said Infinite Forge is 'worse' than unity

I mean duh it's an external tool unconstrained by the ingame UI and such

You didn't see people dumping on the old forges for not being even vaguely close to Warcraft 3's map editor

[crystal iron]

Merge Crysis Into HALO. The Nano Suit and Crysis's timeline came long before The Spartan, so it could make sense if you tell the story along the lines of, Spartans venturing through deep space and uncovering a planet home to the present timeline of Nano Suit equipped soldiers fighting off aliens and protecting a whole other bunch of humans.

games are very alike, full body Power armor, & aliens. Merge the two and you got new enemy's and technology. I also just think it be pretty interesting seeing how the nanosuit reacts when in contact with with halo's various aliens since the suit is built upon modified alien biomass and can upgrade via new alien dna

[fiery pewter]

Is the new fracture event time gated?

[sullen kiln]

The FIREWALL event weeks are scheduled for the following dates:

Week 1: March 21-28
Week 2: April 11-18
Week 3: May 23-30
Week 4: June 13-20

Each week, players can unlock up to 10 tiers of their 20-tier Event Pass.

[fiery pewter]

I take that as yes

Bruh, why they have not yet allowed for these events do be done in one week

[tardy turtle]

Some are

[fiery pewter]

Eh, the random story events, cuz they are 10 tiers

Imo these fractures should be xp based, 500 xp per lvl

[glossy carbon]

id like for some of the old events like the samurai to come back

i missed those sadly

[tardy turtle]

Same

[fiery pewter]

Did they disable the option to remove crossplay from comp???

[finite flower]

Why did they remove Ranked Doubles? Any news?

[coarse dagger]

Ranked doubles is a rotational ranked Playlist

It will be back

[finite flower]

OK ty 🙂

[stone raven]

when do you think halo will return to form?

[tardy turtle]

What is "to form"?

[tepid latch]

When do we get a glimpse at Aprils lineup??

[stone raven]

return to what made halo great

[tardy turtle]

Can you define what that is?

[stone raven]

look at the days of halo 3, odst, and reach

[tardy turtle]

All different games.

You're not really pointing to anything that made them great

[smoky wave]

Reach release was something else, also got eclipsed by CoD black ops in the end

[tardy turtle]

The release of games is a different beast all together; blame stores like Gamestop for that. I used to be able to wear costumes for game releases, then they cracked down on wearing masks or face-covering clothing. Then they stopped doing release parties entirely. Now the best we get is an "Extended Close Pre-release" where you just line up, get your game, and get out.

[stone raven]

well reach is still great but that's besides the point

[smoky wave]

Definitely not

There are good parts of the game like Forge/custom games tho but overall it was pretty meh

[crystal iron]

seeing as the skill bar to use forge now has increased they might as well have made an external version, 343 also made some big deal about "pc first experience" and their slipspace engine so why not compare them

[stone raven]

how dare you say that reach is great

[smoky wave]

https://tenor.com/view/cortana2-cortana-halo-halo-infinity-gif-21956391

[stone raven]

whatever

what are your thoughts on the super scarab?

[tardy turtle]

The one from Halo Wars?

[stone raven]

yes

[tardy turtle]

It'd be nice to see it expanded and to potentially see more return

[next shard]

gotta love desync. I'm doing no damage while shooting 2 enemies who are running away from me and shooting at air. one of the melees the air while 20 feet in front of me facing away from me. I die from a back smack.

[stone raven]

well that scarab was incomplete

[tardy turtle]

Of course, but I mean it would be nice to see a complete one in some form, and to have an identity beyond "Type-29 Scarab"

[stone raven]

well I hope we see it in the future

[stone raven]

what do you think a complete version of the super scarab would look like?

[tardy turtle]

Probably just a larger version of the Type-47A (or Protos-pattern) Scarab seen in Halo 2

[stone raven]

ok

[stone raven]

would you like to see it in the future?

[tardy turtle]

It'd be neat, yeah

[stone raven]

would you destroy it though?

[uneven bison]

Speaking of scarabs, consider this: Phantoms sometimes appear randomly in Halo infinites campaign. Usually with a siren/horn sound. What if we did something similar with banished scarabs. Think about it, the scarab will appear as an a randomly spawning objective on the map, but when you get their, there will be a battle, maybe some wasps and warthogs trying to bring it down. (Of course, we would need marines to drive, but that’s not difficult if Bungie could do it making Halo 2. We all know how troubled the production was.) the way to bring it down is essentially the same: destroy the reactor/power source, but it has multiple reactors, each on a different level, some are guarded, some are shielded, and you have to go Inside the scarab to do it, like in Halo 2. If 343 ever adds the falcon to the campaign, we could even have a sort of remake of the battle of the citadel from halo 3. Thinking about it makes me salivate

I have a lot of ideas for Halo infinites campaign, but seeing as 343 was never planning to do story content, I’m afraid that I’ll never see anything like them.

[frosty condor]

I’m not reading all that. I’m proud of you. Or sorry that happened.

[uneven bison]

Basically halo infinite scarab idea

[frosty condor]

Jkjk I read it 🙂

I do miss the scarab

And your idea is pretty good

[uneven bison]

Well, whenever I want a scarab fight I’ll just play the storm or the covenant. And that’s surprisingly often.

[frosty condor]

Do you fight them on ground or use vehicles

[uneven bison]

Depends. I usually prefer bringing them down, then boarding them, but sometimes I’ll use the marine in the hornet to fly me over.

Something about that piano while flying over on the side of a hornet hits all the right buttons

[frosty condor]

This is true, the piano during that fight is pretty amazing.

Are you aware of the secret music Easter egg spot in that area?

[uneven bison]

Ah yes, the marathon song

Very underrated piece of music

[frosty condor]

[crystal iron]

went from low settings 60fps to ultra 144fps

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/look-holy-moly-omg-whoa-gif-22960590

What did you upgrade

[crystal iron]

everything

6700k > 13700k
gtx 1080 > rtx 4090
2133mhz ddr4 > 6400mhs ddr5

infinite is now playable

[frosty condor]

By golly

Now you’re seeing the rats in 4K

[tame crane]

is anyone else having issues of where infinites settings get reset everytime you start your game back up? Everytime i start up infinite i have to readjust my settings

[fallen flame]

its a known issue

[tame crane]

ok

cuz im colorblind and the colors keep switching and i dont realize until i do a match of ranked and then it screws me up

[fallen flame]

yeah that's gotta be annoying damn

[tardy turtle]

Better yet, it drops from the sky like the Scarabs in Halo 3

[kind palm]

will we ever get more helmets on the firewall battle pass or is merrow all we're getting

[signal ivy]

what you see in the event pass is what you get

[sullen anvil]

why does it have lips

[devout kite]

That’s it if you want more helmets you would have to buy the armor bundles that come during the event week

[kind palm]

damn

[modest hamlet]

i keep getting kicked from games and then temporarily banned on mcc, i dont have any mods or cheats installed

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-michael-fassbender-perfectionist-perfect-gif-7910211

[tardy turtle]

Don't forget the other side that has Microsoft Sam

[devout kite]

How’s being on top of the leaderboard doesn’t count as mvp

[devout kite]

What’s the deal with my teammates being dumb

[tardy turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/wack-thatswack-hannibal-burress-ericandreshow-gif-20565184

[brave carbon]

hope it is on their list to implement. would be nice to have a middle ground of open mic and having to type. figured since was in mcc would have been an easy carry over to infinite as a core functionality/aspect, but guess not.

[brave carbon]

would be nice. the amount of times i have to type or say "one shot (insert location)" is extremely high. plus, it is one of the most valuable callouts

[celest heron]

Maybe you're too good so the game gives you worse teammates

[devout kite]

I played two matches one was a join in session were my team didn’t want to defend the flag in ctf btb and other btb game were my team was feeding the enemy kills in blast house

[celest heron]

oh, in btb coordination is rare outside of parties

most just do whatever they feel like

[devout kite]

I’m just stick of carrying the team on my back lol

[signal ivy]

carry them in front of you

[coarse dagger]

[half spire]

I am watching the halo movie and wow, there are so many things that don't make sense in it. Also the helmet ...

[strange estuary]

this is why btb is superior

[cosmic geyser]

Yeahh... scarabs aren't fun, either.

[devout kite]

Lmao

[steel tangle]

Hello all, doing infinite campaign with a friend, I’ve completed it before but how do I find out what happened to lasky and everyone else?

[half spire]

Like Cortana is a person in the Halo movie 🥸

[devout kite]

Lasky made it off the infinity and mostly hiding

[half spire]

…

[steel tangle]

Ah okay

[crystal iron]

What are you talking about?

[next shard]

i think they're talking about the paramount show

[stone raven]

I hope we see the Flood Juggernaut and Abominations in an fps halo game

[half spire]

Hahaha yea I am

In the paramount show, they clone Halsey and make a human, they kill the clone and put the clone into a chip, then they drill that chip into Jhons head …

Like Bruhhh

[crystal iron]

In game cortana was also made from halsey’s clone

[median epoch]

Men

[stone raven]

Did anyone watch Hidden Xperia CE remake video?

[crystal iron]

I didn’t

[crystal iron]

?

[stone raven]

ok

[median epoch]

Idk just a random statement lol

[half spire]

I thought from the DNA of Halsey which was a clone in the form of a AI, and not a copy of halsey that was then killed to create a AI. Idk just an extra step I don’t remember.

[half spire]

Well kinda clone 😜

🥸

[half spire]

They also drill the AI in the head instead of just having it inside the helmet 😜

In the paramount version

😗

[fallow merlin]

I did

I think it could be cool but I’d be even more interested in a Halo 2 directors cut remake with all the cut content and levels.

But yeah, a CE one could be cool. Especially since CEA was pretty subpar in almost every way and often less detailed. The warthog dashboard doesn’t react to your driving in real time like the original. The lighting and atmosphere is way off. They reuse 3 and Reach assets and it just doesn’t work. It can be beautiful on its own especially the skyboxes. But overall it’s just not faithful to the original at all. The hit boxes often don’t line up properly to the actual geometry. The flashlight is rendered pointless. There’s no separate model of elite ultras seen as dead bodies in the original (some people think they’re just dead spec ops elites but they 100% are different on classic graphics and you can most easily tell this by looking at them right next to each other on a part of The Maw where you can see clearly they’re different)

[crystal iron]

So It's official you can play the Fortnite Creative 2.0 Modes on console my kid was playing OG map. She tried playing some scary map. But it freaked her out

[fallow merlin]

Interesting how each game in the original trilogy has unique dead elites that never show up in gameplay alive. CE has dead ultras. 2 has dead honor guard ultras (that otherwise only show up in a cutscene) without helmets (though sometimes the “honor guard councilor” will spawn as an honor guard ultra but idk if it ever does without the helmet. It has a lot of different potential variations it can show up as.) 3 has the dead ultra elites (which you can melee into an area and get them infected by flood infection forms creating a unique flood elite ultra combat form - the only ones in the game).

ODST also has dead elites in general.

Are there any in Reach or any other game that I’m missing?

[crystal iron]

oh really, thought it was a pc only thing

[crystal iron]

Nope my kid was playing the OG map on the series X.

It showed the Game code as well.

[velvet root]

so I decided to do something I'm going to make my own version of the halo lore, before I start doing this Does anyone have tips where I should start ?

[signal ivy]

at the beginning

[velvet root]

got it

[crystal iron]

Honestly I feel like the future of Gaming is Allowing Ayers the tools to make Games or Gamemodes.

Like this is what the Meta Verse was sapposed to be. Like take This creative 2.0 and The whole Roblox thing... And imagine being able to just make.your own Halo Game, with rewards unlockables and progression. And in another way make your own Open world thing... Like some Ready Player 1 and that Anime where players got trapped in the game.

[crystal iron]

In a hole in the ground there lived a spartan.

[velvet root]

funny 👌 I will take some inspiration from alien sci-Fi, movies and books

from other medias

[stone raven]

well if they do it I want the elite to wear the reach armor but with classic CE proportions

[stone raven]

like that cut outskirt's mission from the halo 2 e3 2003 demo?

[signal ivy]

that is already being restored

https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/cutting-room-floor

[stone raven]

yeah but in mods

[signal ivy]

it's still awesome

[stone raven]

well I play on xbox

[signal ivy]

doesn't make it less awesome

[stone raven]

well it mean I cant play it

[signal ivy]

sorry to hear that, still awesome that they're doing it

[stone raven]

well it still would be great to have a ce remake with flood Juggernuts, Pureform's, Drones, and Scarab battles

[crystal iron]

The Spartan 2 program was more successful and the Spartans were not as many but more virtually indestructible.

[crystal iron]

You can also make the Flood a more central Antagonist, where the Covenant and UNSC , are basically going around the galaxy trying to destroy All the GraveMinds and find the location of the ProtoGravemind... Leading to alot of shared Tech between UNSC and Covenant Forces.

[short heart]

maybe start with explaining the spartans of ancient rome or something, then lead into the re use of the name in the spartan programs

[tired raptor]

anyone else sad that doubles keeps rotating out of Infinite? Me and my homie sure are

[fallow merlin]

Yeah. And there’s tons of other cut levels too. I hear that level actually is being brought to MCC on PC.

I would say the level is more of Metropolis than Outskirts because it takes place in New Mombasa and Outskirts takes place in Old Mombasa. But it does have the Shadows and the anti air cannons from Outskirts.

[stone raven]

oh ok

[stone raven]

well if they do I hope the scarab have their owen ai

[tardy turtle]

Which movie?

[half spire]

The halo series on paramount

[tardy turtle]

Ah. Fear not; it's not canon to the main storyline

It's the "Silver Timeline"

Also what's this about cut levels coming to the MCC?

[signal ivy]

I posted an article

[strange estuary]

was that official or a shoutout to a fan project or something

[signal ivy]

it's a collaboration between 343 and community members

[strange estuary]

Sick

[zealous panther]

Sick

[random moss]

So I'm having issue leveling up in the story event

[tardy turtle]

What's the issue?

[short heart]

issue

[quiet anvil]

Anyone have an idea of the lore accurate ODST stripe combo is. Is it either Rank or MOS?

ITS DRIVING ME INSANE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT

[zenith laurel]

Strip combo?

[empty rapids]

oml these bots are useless

can't even finish off a deshielded enemy

[fallow merlin]

Are Brutes stronger in ODST? It kind of feels like it. Is the shielding effect on their amor just purely a visual change or does it actually make them stronger?

[smoky oasis]

Health-wise they are the same. The shielding is strictly visual.

But you are weaker, so they basically do more damage to you than they do in H3.

[uneven thicket]

You are smol boy in odst

[fallow merlin]

This is a really great video on rare and unique enemies in the Halo games. For example the one sentinel that shoots a needler Instead of a sentinel beam on Quarantine Zone. Or the one human flood combat form on The Maw who is allied with The Covenant and will fight against his own. He’s missing a few enemies that would definitely qualify for this video, but it’s a great watch. Deserves way more views. Hope he does a part 2. I love looking into the super unique enemies. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HR4UtBBbciM&t

[fallow merlin]

Thanks. I could have sworn they were a little harder to kill.

I will never understand why Bungie decided to go the route they did with the Brute ranks in Halo 3. Some of them are nearly impossible to tell apart.

[fallow merlin]

Are the red drone captains in ODST campaign or no? Are they firefight only?

[velvet root]

I already have a setup for the Flood story

[velvet root]

good idea

[unborn stirrup]

I wish there was a halo rpg game

[crystal iron]

An Open World Halo RPG, I would enjoy that like being a Spartan rolling around different locations assassinating HVT banished forces

So does anyone feel like Halo Infinite is being left behind by other franchises. I kinda feel bad for 343 given all the stuff they went.throihh with Layoffs and what not but It does seem like each time they get a win something happens that sets them back or some.other franchise drops something even better.

MW2 basically had more content at launch and 3 month seasons right out the gate.

Now Fortnite drops Creative 2.0 and it makes Infinite Forge feel a bit behind on the capabilities.

And Epic Games is probably already working on the next thing and.improvesments.to 2.0

I just hope it doesn't discourage 343 or perhaps they would be willing to work with other studious maybe bring in epic games to help them with the Unreal Engine transition.

[crystal iron]

Not saying you’re wrong, but I don’t think the franchise needs to reinvent the wheel. It just needed more content like it has now earlier and most of the “problems” wouldn’t be a thing.

[tepid latch]

I think the people who are invested in map making in Halo will stay in halo and those who wanted to just have something to make stuff in will probably go to Fortnite for its much greater range of modability

Ultimately, like roblox, fortnite will still feel like fortnite at its core. I imagine they'll probably make changes to this in the future and allow more customization of the base game, but for now, UEFN is just a wider scale game editor

[tepid latch]

Would be so cool to get some variation with the team intros! actually surprised they didnt make more animations and pop them in the store or something

[crystal iron]

Yea I get what your saying. I think though they missed the golden Opportunity to capture that wider audience. So they are now just barely catching up to the Day 1 expectations, while other franchise are already at their mid cycle Updates and Fortnite is hitting it out with their Newest cutting edge content... So Halo as a franchise still feels like it's falling behind

[crystal iron]

That's the thing I keep seeing it would be cool if we got this or we got that, and than you see another franchise essentially deliver that... Meanwhile 343 says oh ok yea we will work on trying to get that in...

That isn't really appealing... 343 can hold the diehard community but I think they essemtially lost the broader audience, community. And they should really just reshape to focus on that Niche community Halo was known for

[tepid latch]

So weird that halo is still a big name franchise but feels like it has little relevance nowadays. I would love for infinite to pick up again in a massive way somehow, but with the team seemingly halved i feel like production on infinite is probably slower than what it could have been

hope to see more in the future for Infinite though!

[next shard]

only in power seeds can nearly the entire team have fewer than 5 kills and still win in less than 6 minutes

such a fun experience

[tepid latch]

I think I played that gamemode once and could seriously not stand it...

[next shard]

i think if you had both full teams communicating and working together, it could probably be pretty fun. But that is never the case in btb

[ancient coral]

i hope infinte has a destiny 2 esc comeback

[tepid latch]

Frrr!!

[ancient coral]

both games had a honeymoon period that quickly went away, a better campaign than the previous game, playerbase quickly decreased, tho it was a much more gentle slope for destiny

and bungie turned it around

now its 343s chance to turn infin ite around

s3 and the winter update were a good start

hell i'd even like infinite to have a battlefront 2 comeback

[tepid latch]

Season 3 was a great start! i was super excited for where the story is headed too, i was mostly let down by the store and the lack of any word on cross core. aside from that season 3 has been a pretty good run

excited for whats to come, I hope we get more communication about specific topics the community has asked about

God, i really think it would be awesome to get a Halo metroidvania game. doesnt have to be chief, but I think the idea of exploring the inner workings of a ring in a 2.5D game would be awesome! have several massive boss fights like a flood form that takes up a third of the screen and acts like a Kraid fight 😍

some rouge Forerunner robot as a boss fight that flies around Ridley style

[glossy carbon]

imagine if chief and cortana get replaced by jerome and isabel

[tepid latch]

I really wouldn't mind that at all, i've only watched HW1 and 2, but they would be so cool to see more of in a mainline halo game

Id ofc love to see Chief and Cortana's story wrapped up some how, but yes overall i like the idea

[glossy carbon]

it is fairly wrapped up. And jerome and chief together would also be a cool moment

[plucky plank]

Is there a way to stop the cinematic showing every time I go onto halo infinite, I've seen it, I've skipped it often since but surely the game should recognise that I've watched it already and just stop.

[glossy carbon]

replace it in the game files

its just a mp4 you can put anything there. Its called intro

[finite river]

its a bug

shocker i know

[plucky plank]

🤣

[crystal iron]

Oh yea most definitely, the problem with Halo infinite is they were already behind. Than the some launch issues are still, new issues pop up it's like they are accruing compound issues, and now have less staff.

Really seems like when it comes to workload they have their heads just above water.

Not to mention the games Code is probably all on fire l.

I would assume it's like running a freaking gauntlet for these Devs to even add in features to the game.

i love the drones.

BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

What are your guys favourite Covenant Species?

[raw burrow]

The brutes and Elites

[river minnow]

omg fakestar 2.0

[tepid latch]

i wanna play as a grunt in a short story campaign 🫡

[crystal iron]

🫡

[magic night]

It'll definitely be a short story because you get headshotted right off the bat

[next shard]

is it just me or is oasis just always super vulnerable to vehicles driving around spawn killing only on the one side of the map?

like if you get that side just forget about even playing the game. warthogs will just do circles around the base non stop killing you before you can move

[regal ledge]

It’s a shame the double XP bonus doesn’t apply to the extra XP you get after completing a match in Infinite
Like the progression XP

[crystal iron]

What?

[neon vapor]

It does, it contributes to the post match xp, bonus premium pass xp, and challenge xp.

[regal ledge]

Oh, nice
I probably didn’t notice lol

[smoky oasis]

Late response here sorry, but there is one in the Campaign. It's under the Drone Hive.

[fallow merlin]

Isn’t that the yellow hiveward? Also known as the captain major. I mean the red captains one level down from that.

[smoky oasis]

I think you're right. In that case, I don't think there is a red one in the campaign. Maybe if you use the Thunderstorm skull but I doubt even then,

[fallow merlin]

That part with the hive is pretty cool though. Fighting massive swarms of pupa drones that glow in the dark and die in one shot from any weapon. And then a final shielded hiveward at the end. Only one in the campaign.

[smoky oasis]

Yeah that is a fun sequence. I like chaining the swarms that come out together to get a Killionaire if I'm quick enough.

[fallow merlin]

Come to think of it are the drones in any level before the last two? I know they’re also in Coastal Highway. But I can’t recall if they appear in any level before Data Hive.

I like how ODST added new Covenant enemy types in addition to what is in Halo 3. Obviously the engineers. But also new drone ranks and even new brute ranks because they added jumper majors and jumper ultras.

War Chieftains now use hammers.

[mental verge]

Hey, all. I was wondering first if I'm allowed to send links to steam screenshots, but second if we are allowed; I feel like I found the start of an easter egg or something in the Infinite campaign and wanted to see if anyone has any insight.

[smoky oasis]

Yeah there's some in the elevator shaft on ONI Alpha Site.

[fallow merlin]

Oh right.

Forgot about those

[coarse dagger]

Yeah, feel free to drop them here

[mental verge]

Awesome. Thank you! I found it when the game dropped, but don't know if I'm looking at something or nothing at all. I felt like I saw something similar somewhere in older Halo games, but who knows; I went to public schools.

It looks like an arrow or chevron to the left and a circle to the right:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2695827566

This is the location on the map:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2695827855

When I got to the location, there was a drop ship that spawned, I thought I triggered something, but again, who knows.

[coarse dagger]

Interesting, does look like it was intentionally drawn and not just rock surface

[mental verge]

Yeah, I never bothered bringing it up, but I swear I saw those same markings, at least the circle on the right, before in the old textures of another game, like Halo CE/Halo 2 era.

Moreover, I don't see it anywhere else in the campaign, suggesting it was just a texture they used over and over.

Just another angle of the circle on the right: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2695835487

[fallow merlin]

“I went to public schools.” 😂

[devout kite]

343 should remove remakes of old maps

[fallow merlin]

I’ll check it out tonight.

[mental verge]

Lol. Just incase I turn out crazy.

[fallow merlin]

Just want to see it for myself and also make sure it’s not a glitch or something. I love hunting for Easter eggs.

Did anyone ever solve the mystery about the Banished glyphs?

[mental verge]

For sure. Would love some confirmation. It bums me out that all of that wonder quickly faded with Infinite. It felt like everything was found Day 1. And I am not too sure.

[fallow merlin]

I don’t think this was ever solved https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yAWkrxkWeEw&list=PLhHjTkohIJ3-3M0bxvwWjZhqvP-L5tQuj&index=7

Along with some other things

[mental verge]

Well, totally worth looking back into! One of my favorite parts about the Halo community; the easter eggs.

Would like 343 to confirm with a "yes" or "no" as to whether everything has been found, just to reinvigorate all the content creators that used to pour so much time into trying to figure them out!

Soooooo much map to hide huge, intricate easter eggs in; rather than the random large sandwich or guitar.

[crystal iron]

that halo 3 easter egg with the secret message in the loading screen not found till like 10 years later

[mental verge]

Crazy to think; like everyone had a chance to see it equally.

[fallow merlin]

There was a Halo 5 Easter egg with hidden mongooses not found until years later

People didn’t fully understand the IWHBYD skulls in Halo 2 and 3 until years later.

[crystal iron]

easter eggs are great, like knowing a dev sat there putting their own little fun thing in the game thats there forever

[mental verge]

I saw Rocket Sloth try to figure that one out. Was funny!

[fallow merlin]

They may have found ways to trigger them but they didn’t understand how to do it reliably. And unfortunately there’s a lot of misinformation about the Halo 2 IWHBYD skull. Like this whole idea you need to activate 7 checkpoints to trigger the 1 in 7 chance for the skull to spawn.

Or the videos claiming there’s a way to get it to spawn 100% of the time.

There’s only 1 checkpoint that matters. The sniper ally checkpoint.

[mental verge]

https://tenor.com/view/mystery-gif-6112498

[crystal iron]

lol I just noticed theres pop in on the loading screens, trees were spawning in if you look closely, why isn't this stuff pre rendered

[signal ivy]

it's there for me too

[fallow merlin]

Modders figured out how to get Halo 3 IWHBYD to work pretty early but it took a long time for people to actually understand why and connect that jumping through the rings in that order played the last 7 notes of the Halo theme.

[mental verge]

Awesome. That is a start!

Did a drop ship event start right behind you in the valley or was that unrelated for me?

[signal ivy]

no drop ship for me

[fallow merlin]

Also those Modders who figured out how the skull worked are lame and ruined the fun.

[mental verge]

Okay, noted. I appreciate it.

[signal ivy]

no problem

[mental verge]

That's the worst part for Halo Infinite in particular. People peered through every wall and crevice and really ruined some mystery there.

[crystal iron]

beat me to it

[glossy carbon]

what is that

[signal ivy]

that... is another Halo

[crystal iron]

with more flood

[glossy carbon]

say what

[signal ivy]

so this is what my father found

[glossy carbon]

nah but for real what is that supposed to be

[mental verge]

Glad to see I'm not crazy yet, but maybe I'll run into the texture again and feel like a dork. Lol.

[sullen anvil]

Need help with this challenge. How are you supposed to get the Golden Moa on Oni Alpha Site on ODST

I know where it is but there is no possible way to get it

[mental verge]

Can you enable Acrophobia?

[sullen anvil]

That disables challenge completion

some skulls get rid of the ability to complete challenges

[mental verge]

As in: Find 3 Golden Moas?

[sullen anvil]

Yes

[mental verge]

Hmmm, I'm not sure I've ever had that problem before!

[sullen anvil]

I’ll skip Oni because there is no way to get that one

[uneven thicket]

🅱️alo

[sullen anvil]

I’ll just grab one in another game

[tardy turtle]

Be honest; would anyone have figured that out without modders?

[fallow merlin]

Yeah I think so. Maybe not within like a week but yeah, eventually.

There’s some Halo 5 skulls that I also wonder how people figured them out. I remember one time I heard a grunt birthday party sound on a level and had no idea what I did to trigger it. Wound up being that I had shot a traffic cone involved in one of the skulls.

There’s that Infinite one that requires you to not kill any sentinels to get a bridge to activate. I don’t know how anyone figured that one out especially back in the day when you couldn’t even easily replay missions. Plus it’s the one skull in the game that doesn’t even tell you what level it’s on. Must have just been a speed runner running through the level who noticed the bridge activate.

[stone raven]

do you like the idea of a spin off game wear you play as a brute chieftain during the human covenant war?

[celest heron]

some people's brains work different so they're going to be looking for stuff that's not intended.

[fallow merlin]

Wish 5 and Infinite continued the tradition of making IWHBYD the hardest skulls. It’s like the easiest one in 5. So easy I missed it because I was expecting it to be way harder.

[fallow merlin]

Aren’t there some that spawn in cutscene rooms and crazy stuff like that?

I think some of them just aren’t possible. Or extremely hard. But idk about that one specifically.

[stone raven]

why was the global battle concept for reach scarpped?

[wheat zenith]

Does anyone use the Halo Waypoint mobile app?

[devout kite]

I do why

[coarse dagger]

A lot of the time it comes down to simply time and resources. A lot of ideas are prototyped early on, but depending on the direction of the project not all of them can be pushed forward.
Sometimes it can be complexity, sometimes it's not being able to fully flesh out a feature before a deadline, could be bugs that can't be fixed for shipping or sometimes it's even as simple as the idea didn't meet the what the wanted for the game.

Oh, sometimes it can be "the tech to do this hasn't been built yet" which has happened in the past with some games and films

[wheat zenith]

Does anyone know why under the MCC section it says “slipspace disruption” and it’s unavailable but infinite is fine?

[stone raven]

what are your thought on the halo reach brute conceptart? https://twitter.com/Isaac_Hannaford/status/1570833645660942337

[celest heron]

I hope Firefight will have actual bosses in the final rounds whenever it comes.

[tardy turtle]

I'm still upset the Jiralhanae went the ape route, when they're still classified as quasi-ursine

[stone raven]

but do you like the concept art desgin?

[stone raven]

bruh they're supposed to be ape like 💀

[stone raven]

ok

[fallow merlin]

Are mods here just community members who volunteer or are they considered part of 343i?

Just curious.

[signal ivy]

volunteers

[fallow merlin]

There used to be a Halo app that had the making of the Halo 2A documentary on it. Was that Waypoint? Is there still a way to watch it? I feel like there used to be a link to watch that documentary on MCC that took you to an app. Anyone remember what I’m talking about?

[fallow merlin]

Thanks

[signal ivy]

you're welcome

[stone raven]

do you like the brute conceptart desgin?

[signal ivy]

what brute concept art design

[stone raven]

#halo-discussion message

[fallow merlin]

I think it would be cool if MCC added skulls (preferably with the option to turn them off) to find in ODST, Reach and 4.

Hunting for skulls the first time is so much fun. I was able to find quite a bit on my own without looking it up. But needed help for a lot of them.

[coarse dagger]

https://youtu.be/W9-Wk_R3SPw

[fallow merlin]

Anyone know why ODST, Reach and 4 didn’t include them in the first place?

[stone raven]

what are your thoughts?

[signal ivy]

I'll look at it later

[fallow merlin]

I knew it was on YouTube but thank you anyways. I was just wondering if there was still a way to view it from the MCC like I remember when the game first came out and what app it took you to (pretty sure it was Waypoint).

[coarse dagger]

Please remember to turn off the ping /tag before replying. Thanks

[fallow merlin]

Sorry.

Can’t you just use a setting to not get notifications?

[coarse dagger]

Then I would miss notifications when it's an emergency

[sullen anvil]

Hoping H2 Classic multiplayer gets its own special installation pretty pls

[coarse dagger]

There used to be a couple of different apps 343 developed and released, all have been retired except for the current one for Infinite.
Think the Halo 2 video was on the Halo Channel app, that would have been out around the time of MCC

[brave plover]

What happened to the halo channel, I remember terminals in MCC used to take me there but I never really checked it out. What was it and what happened to it?

[sly crown]

I love halo 2 best game of all time

[coarse dagger]

Please remember to turn off the ping /tag before replying. Thanks

[sly crown]

mb dawg

[stone raven]

what are some a the very big confliction between reach and the fall of reach?

[brave plover]

I don't think there's many tbh

[tardy turtle]

Not really; they were more bear-like in Halo 2 and 3. They still retain the quasi-ursine (bear-like) classification

[fallow merlin]

Was it terminals in MCC or was it the original Halo 4? I think MCC always had played directly in the game but I could be wrong. I do remember the app though. I think it was Halo Channel that had that Halo 2 documentary. It was a pretty cool app. Shame it doesn’t work anymore.

[brave plover]

Remember reading somethings about Halseys journel helping it all link up

[stone raven]

well do you still like the concept art design?

[stone raven]

no they were not bear like

[tardy turtle]

• shrug * It is.

[brave plover]

Think it was MCC, I didn't play original halo 4 on the 360 so idk if it was on that

[coarse dagger]

MCC used to pipe out to the Halo Channel app for terminals, or it was something like that. There were some issues with it and they were eventually brought in-game

[stone raven]

it is what?

[tardy turtle]

They really were, though. They had a more pronounced snout that was more resembling of a grizzly than anything in the Great Ape family.

[stone raven]

well the way the bang on their chest and stuff is very ape like

[fallow merlin]

I’d say brutes were always more ape like than bear like. But they could have taken inspiration from both.

That brings up a good question actually

[stone raven]

I honestly I want to see the design in future spin off game set during the human covenant war

[coarse dagger]

November 2020 it was changed

[fallow merlin]

The animals we see for example the bird like creatures we see on High Charity or the Moa’s on Reach. Are they actually birds? Or are they a totally different animal that just happened to evolve in a similar way?

Did the Forerunners seed a bunch of the same genetic codes on different planets and installations?

[brave plover]

I do prefer the video in-game

[fallow merlin]

Same.

I believe they also played in the wrong order in Halo 4 when they went to the app. Two of the terminals switched the order they were meant to play in and it was later fixed in MCC.

I watched all the terminals in MCC a few weeks ago and I was very confused by a lot of it.

[brave plover]

Same I watch em but do not understand em

[fallow merlin]

I don’t get why Spark spent an entire terminal complaining about not being given a companion caretaker, but then we see in Infinite that the monitor on Zeta Halo did have a companion caretaker. Why didn’t Spark get one?

[fallow merlin]

Honestly so much of it comes off as pretentious nothingness. Just random sci fi word salad.

Bungie had a lot of problems with storytelling too though. But 343 took it to new levels.

[brave plover]

To be honest, I got the general gist of 1,2 and 3 by just playing the games, but 4 and 5 were too mindboggling for me to handle

[fallow merlin]

And of all things I never played Halo for story. I played for the atmosphere and the intrigue, the gameplay, the music, the fun with friends, level design. Sense of wonder. 343 took things that were better left unexplained and ruined the mystery and intrigue.

[tardy turtle]

Likely the higher risk of the Xalanyn

[brave plover]

Revealing the librarian did kill the mystique I think

[tardy turtle]

That'd be Halo 3 that did that, not 343i.

[fallow merlin]

The Guardians went from mysterious and creepy unknown entities that killed you out of nowhere, like some ancient gods watching over you - to big boring robotic birds. The Forerunners went from mysterious ancient humans to generic boring aliens. The Forerunner architecture went from beautiful and ancient to ugly windows vista screensaver. Cortana and Chief’s relationship went from subtle and open to interpretation to something out of a melodramatic novel aimed at 14 year old girls. They even explained the flood. We don’t need an explanation for everything.

[brave plover]

Oh did Halo 3 reveal the librarian?

[fallow merlin]

Halo 3 first mentioned her in terminals. But Halo 4 truly revealed her.

[tardy turtle]

Yeah, no. Halo 3 "revealed" her. Halo 4 expanded the character, but even then not by much

[fallow merlin]

That’s like saying Halo CE revealed the Forerunners.

[tardy turtle]

All the "mystery and mystique" is just a lack of planning.

[tardy turtle]

Yeah, it did.

I'm sorry man, when we've got dialogue and purpose from a character, then she's been introduced.

[fallow merlin]

But we know they did have plans for all those things I mentioned. With the exception of The Guardians which was just the codes way of attributing deaths it couldn’t specify.

[tardy turtle]

And you're upset about something being made from coding?

[fallow merlin]

Introduced yes. Revealed? No.

[tardy turtle]

I'm not going to get into a semantic argument over this.

[brave plover]

@tardy turtle Did you like the way they introduced and expanded on the forerunners?

[tardy turtle]

Yes.

[brave plover]

Fair enough

Thinking on it now, I just didn't get it at the time

I guess I need to play 4 again, I haven't played it for years

[fallow merlin]

I preferred when it was left open to interpretation. I remember being a kid and being killed out of nowhere and seeing “killed by the guardians” and thinking it was creepy. And on top of that there’s the known phenomena of being on a Halo map from the bungie days (especially CE maps) and feeling like you’re being watched. It was just cool and creepy. It added a sense of wonder. I wouldn’t say I’m “upset” over it because that seems like an unnecessarily condescending way of diminishing an opinion you don’t share. But I do prefer one over the other.

[tardy turtle]

Yeah, I never got the impression of being watched on maps. That's all you.

[fallow merlin]

Well it’s not all me. Because like I said, it’s a known phenomena a lot of people experienced.

[brave plover]

To be fair I did hear a lot of people enjoying the mystique of the early games

Like halo 3 the giant monitor eye following you on that chill out inspired map

[tardy turtle]

The "mystery" of early games, yes. I've heard that myself. But feeling like you're being watched by "the guardians" on a map? In all the 22 years I've been playing Halo, that's a first for me.

Especially considering that you're "killed by the guardians" even when getting hit by a train in New Mombasa.

[brave plover]

Different experiences I guess

[fallow merlin]

Of course you’re probably not actually being watched. But the sound design, the feeling of being in an abandoned place, and probably also the fact that you’re in a multiplayer map usually meant for numerous people and gunfire sounds and you’re by yourself all add to that feeling. And of course the whole “being killed by the Guardians” thing. It was cool. It was intriguing. For me Halo 4 and 5 are just boring typical pretentious scifi.

[rocky summit]

They should do a fallout halo crossover

[fallow merlin]

They explained things that didn’t need explaining imo.

Or if they did, they could have been good explanations.

[tardy turtle]

It's all subjective opinion

As for example, I think it is good

[stone raven]

Is the covenant fleet at that appears at the end of long night at solace the fleet of particular justice?

[tardy turtle]

Yes

[brave plover]

That would be pretty neat

[stone raven]

ok

[brave plover]

Only played New Vegas and it was phenomenal

[fallow merlin]

I’ve definitely heard others talk about it. I’ve even heard people mention it for non Halo maps. Just being on multiplayer maps in general by yourself especially on older games and feeling like they’re being watched. But especially in Halo. Also the whole “ghosts of Halo” thing probably added to it as well. The feeling like you’re being watched on Halo multiplayer maps thing is even on a bunch of Halo Icebergs too. I’m definitely not the only one.

[fallow merlin]

Yes. That goes without saying.

[ripe thistle]

I completely agree with you broskirose

I loved the open interpretation of the earlier games

[brave plover]

Lets the mind wander fr

[ripe thistle]

I remember rewatching halo legends over and over bcz it was the only insight i had at the time of the forerunners

[tardy turtle]

Out of morbid curiosity, and at risk of going down a well-trod rabbit hole, what mystery was there by Halo 3?

[ripe thistle]

And the rest of it was dope

[brave plover]

Remember the conspiracy of a tomb under sandtrap

[fallow merlin]

I’m glad you like it. I enjoy 4 and 5. But I think they did a lot of things wrong. They’re not bad games imo. But I do think they don’t feel like Halo. I wish I could be on board with the story direction they took. Because I want to love it more. And I think even 343 would agree that they didn’t get things right with those games. Bonnie Ross has admitted Halo 4 multiplayer wasn’t that great and Halo 5 story wasn’t that great (paraphrasing, not exact quotes but she said something to that effect). And we saw them go back to the roots with Infinite in so many ways. The art style is back to classic Halo. The music style is back to classic Halo and away from the more generic action scores of 4 and 5. But all that being said, there are things about 4 and 5 I love. And I thought Infinite was awesome (though it does have it’s fair share of problems too).

[brave plover]

I woulda loved if infinite showed more of the UNSC and how they dealt with the destruction of the infinity

And showed more of the ring et cetera

[tardy turtle]

sigh... You know, I've also never seen it really said or clearly defined what makes Halo "feel like Halo" outside of "Bungie makes it".

[brave plover]

They probably don't feel like halo to many due to all the changes, story confusion you can get without reading up on the lore, enemy design changes and didn't meet the standards of the previous games

[tardy turtle]

As well while Infinite's music isn't bad, I would argue it's not the best. Unlike Halo 5's OST, which took risks and made absolutely amazing tracks like "The Trials" with numerous call-backs to past themes, Infinite's OST is falling back on - brace yourself for blasphemy - Marty's habit of just recycling stuff. Granted Infinite's ultimately sounds a shade different, but it still the same old stuff.

[signal ivy]

Halo 4 OST 🐐

[tardy turtle]

Halo 4's is good, but nothing beats The Trials

[signal ivy]

117 would like a word

[tardy turtle]

The Trials includes 117

And Blue Team. And the original Halo theme

[brave plover]

Dancing in the moonlight by toploader is the best OST

[fallow merlin]

A lot. There was the hunt for the terminals on the Ark and the lore within them and the way it would stop you from reading all of it and deny access, and them changing based on difficulty. It added a bunch of mystery without over explaining. They gave just enough to get you intrigued. There was Spark talking to the monitor of the Ark and you could walk in on their conversation. Mendicant Bias communicating with you at the terminals. There was the giant mystery of Sandtrap and other maps that all connected with the glyphs and the Guardian sentinel hologram and the theory about their being something buried under the map. There was the creepy image of Cortana appearing on the screens in Crows Nest. There was the question of the connection between humans and forerunners sparked by the comments Spark made and the terminals and comments from the Gravemind which all seemed to imply that humans were forerunners themselves all except for a couple specific terminals written by Frank OConner which contradicted everything else in the game, other terminals and prior games, and then became the basis for 343’s version of Forerunners as a separate species. There was the Iris promotional campaign. The Da Vinci Code mystery. the cavemen. The Ark in general is a mysterious place especially before the people who built it were revealed to be generic aliens. The Sandtrap glyph mystery I mentioned earlier still isn’t solved and even ties into Infinite. And the towers that keep you inside and try to kill you if you leave makes you wonder why an area like that would be created to keep something from leaving. The big theory is that Mendicant Bias is buried under there. There’s so much more I’m forgetting but I haven’t played Halo 3 through in a while. I’d say CE is the most mysterious game. But Halo 3 has plenty of mystery. Especially back before the 343 games released.

There was the mystery of making sense of corrupted Cortana and the Gravemind’s communications including optional Cortana dialogue you could hear. A terminal and a message by the pelican in the Cortana level.

[brave plover]

Holy shi this is too much to read at 2.30 in the morning

[tardy turtle]

Gimme a bit to clean my cat's fountain and I'll get to that

[fallow merlin]

Yeah, there’s a lot of mystery.

[brave plover]

Imma analyze this when my brains functioning

[fallow merlin]

Correction - I think Epitaph is theorized as the burial place of Mendicant Bias.

But something is also supposed to be buried under Sandtrap.

I can’t remember. Been a while since I did Halo 3 multiplayer.

But those glyphs sparked a massive mystery that still hasn’t been solved. And the Mendicant Bias hologram from Epitaph as well as the glyphs from Sandtrap show up in Infinite and continue the mystery.

[brave plover]

Epitaph such a visually appealing map

[fallow merlin]

I feel like you can hear a faint ghostly choir or something on it

Bungie games had incredible sound design

Iconic sound design on par with the greatest of all time. The ambient noises and weapon sounds and music are just incredible in Bungie Halo.

I was playing Backwash the other day and I could have sworn I heard The Flood which I had never heard before.

I’ve heard of others hearing creepy laughing on Waterworks in Halo 2 and The Pit from Halo 3.

Halo 5 has that creepy little thing that peaks out from under the floor on one map. I forget the name.

[brave plover]

Never heard that easter egg before

[spark bluff]

No thanks never

[fallow merlin]

That kind of stuff just makes a multiplayer map go from a place to shoot people, to a place that makes you wonder and go “where an I? What is this place?”

[brave plover]

Mystique shi

Imma sleep now 3 hours of sleep should be plenty

[spark bluff]

No you need 4

[brave plover]

Im getting approximately 0hours

[spark bluff]

Tis normal but you should aim for at least 4 a day minium

[brave plover]

Gaming developers on crunch get more sleep than me

[brave plover]

I be failing the minimum requierements

[fallow merlin]

Should really aim for more than that but it’s better than nothing. Also, you really shouldn’t look at blue light screens before bed. It inhibits your bodies ability to produce melatonin and makes it harder to sleep and your sleep less rejuvenating.

The minimum requirement is more like 6 or 7.

[spark bluff]

Well that is the minimum to be healthy

No actually that isn't true, it varies per person.

[brave plover]

My system requierements is around 2

[devout kite]

What’s the deal with the game giving me bad teammates in rank

[spark bluff]

The match making just seems pretty bad

[brave plover]

Thought it was just me

[fallow merlin]

It varies from person to person on how well you can function with less sleep but the general recommendation for 18-60 year olds is at least 7 hours of sleep. You want at the very least 4 REM cycles.

[devout kite]

I’m just tired of having to try to pull a victory and stay positive with bad teammates in objectives

[brave plover]

Master Chief never needed sleep to execute a mission

Well he did in the books

Not the games tho

[fallow merlin]

I had some kind of horrible circadian rhythm disorder when I was deathly ill in September and October and nearly died. And during that period I literally could not look at a screen after dark. And during the day I needed blue light glasses.

Imo it’s not a coincidence that the rise in sleeping disorders seems to correlate directly to the rise of phones, laptops, etc.

[rugged quartz]

Um. Spartans can stay up for longer but... There are gaps in missions in halo ce-3

[ruby knoll]

bungie games had incredible sound design
Music? Sure
Sound design? Random stock sounds

[fallow merlin]

Don’t forget entire games start with Master Chief waking up from a giant nap.

[brave plover]

My plan had plot holes

[fallow merlin]

CE. 4. Infinite.

[rugged quartz]

i dont like the halo 3 assault rifle sound

[fallow merlin]

Yes sound design. Some of it is stock noises sure, but they work. The ambient noises in the levels and maps are incredible. The guns all sound perfect. Everything sounds just right. The shield recharge sound. The ambient beeping noises of Forerunner and Covenant facilities and ships.

[fallow merlin]

A lot of the Halo 3 guns don’t sound great, that is true

More like paintball guns

[tardy turtle]

Mmk, gonna get to that post. How does the quote function work on Discord?

[ruby knoll]

Infinite SFX work is peak

AFAIK, all the weapons have custom sfx

Actually all 3 of 343's mainline titles use a LOT of custom sfx

[fallow merlin]

Infinite music does a fantastic job of bringing back old themes, making great variations of them, and sticking to the classic style while also adding new.

I’ll take a stock sound that’s used well over a custom sound used poorly any day.

[ruby knoll]

Infinite's OST was at its best when it wasn't leaning on the older stuff tbh

[fallow merlin]

Under Cover and Through The Trees are awesome

[ruby knoll]

Like The Endless or Judgement

[fallow merlin]

Even stuff like Gbraakon Escape are clearly iterating on classic themes.

But the new stuff still sounds like it belongs in a Halo game. And that’s the thing that 4 and 5 missed (with a few exceptions). It’s not necessarily bad music. It just doesn’t sound like Halo.

Weirdly enough even when 5 did lean on old themes it still didn’t sound like Halo. That song that plays during The Breaking uses old themes but it kind of reduces it to sounding like a typical action movie. I still like it. But it just doesn’t seem quite right to me.

[serene furnace]

All Halo games up to Reach relied a lot on taking the same tracks that existed since CE and remixing them a bit. I can't fully blame Halo 4 for being different, especially considering that we had new composers, and I wanted to listen to their talent. Not that it's all new tho, Halo 4 does have a couple of classic Halo music here and there

[magic night]

Halo 4 OST is my personal favorite

[serene furnace]

It's unique

Not really sure if I can say it didn't sound like Halo. We had music for humanity and music for the Covenant, even music for the Flood, all of them being distinctive. So the Forerunners having their music made sense

[uneven bison]

I like all the Halo soundtracks. Regardless of how they sound.

[magic night]

Tracks like 117, Arrival, Awakening, Mantis all sound great and they tie back to the story and gameplay in ways I felt were a lot more evocative than in CE through Reach.

[uneven bison]

BUT I do like Reaches drums

Winter contingency hits different during snow

[rugged quartz]

i like halo 5 weapon sounds

[serene furnace]

The attention to detail in weapons in Halo 5 was crazy, great sound, peak idle animations (promethean especially), and even your Spartan had an animation where their finger pulled the trigger every time you took a shot

[spark bluff]

Was pretty bad tbh

Armor models looks weird too

[fallow merlin]

Back in September and October when I nearly died and in the months following I was in a super sensitive state because of my illness. Sensitive to everything. Something weird happened with my physiology where everything effected me. All the food I ate. Chemicals in normal house products were unbearable. My phone caused my thyroid to pulsate. I couldn’t look at screens at night. Just - everything in every way. And I’d listen to Halo choir music (and other choir music) and it would have a healing effect on me. I can’t explain it. But I got interested since then and have seen science papers talking about the health benefits of choir music. It’s not just simply good music to me anymore. I credit it with helping me heal during a really bad time in my life. Another Walk and Walking Away were particularly helpful. Just gorgeous.

[spark bluff]

Graphics not good either

[signal ivy]

this just cemented out friendship

[serene furnace]

I was just talking about Halo 5 weapon animations and ElegantWizard over here just went and roasted the game lol

[ruby knoll]

5 grav hammer idle >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> every other hammer idle

[fallow merlin]

I would argue they already had their own music in the Bungie games.

[uneven bison]

That’s… inspiring in a strange way

[serene furnace]

True

[ruby knoll]

5 idles in general were pretty good

[serene furnace]

Not sure why they removed the Watcher assassinations tho, I get they were rare to pull off in Halo 4, but they were really cool

[ruby knoll]

watchers would've been less infuriating if they were faster but weaker

[magic night]

Can't believe it wasn't cemented the other times I said this

[serene furnace]

I have mixed feelings on how the prometheans were handled from 4 to 5. On one hand their hitbox is much better in Halo 5, in Halo 4 on the other hand, they were capable of climbing walls, it added a lot to the atmosphere

[fallow merlin]

My problem with 4’s music isn’t that it’s different or doesn’t rely on old themes. It’s just that for the most part the themes it did come up with don’t really feel like they fit in with the rest of the established Halo sonic pallet in the way the originals and Infinite do

[serene furnace]

And while Knights are tougher in Halo 5, they removed their teleporting powers, annoying yes, but that quick teleport attack where they approached to you in zig zag quickly to smack you was so cool

[fallow merlin]

I was listening to Halo music in the car and had my mom in the passenger seat with me. And some Halo 4 music came on and she asked if we were still listening to Halo.

[magic night]

I liked that about 4. it was a new direction for the franchise. They went with a new style with the art and music. They took what they liked about Halo and added on what they thought would fit.

[grave ether]

Plot twist, she was tired of listening to halo and wanted to know if it was finally over

[fallow merlin]

Granted she’s only played the first two games so far. But she didn’t ask that question when Halo 3 or even ODST or Infinite music was playing.

[signal ivy]

the more cement the stronger the friendship?

[magic night]

https://tenor.com/view/kakanj-cement-tbgbh-concrete-beton-cement-gif-16227205

[grave ether]

Roman Cement

[signal ivy]

didn't they figure out recently how it was made?

[fallow merlin]

She’s actually been playing the games with me and likes the music.

[grave ether]

Yep, finally!

[serene furnace]

I have a feeling 343 at the time was afraid that if the music and art style was much closer to the original trilogy, instead of receiving praise for sticking the franchise to what it's always been, were gonna be accused of incapable of coming with their own ideas and just relying on and coping the same stuff Bungie did

[grave ether]

Darned if you do, darned if you don't. Might as well make what you want and ride the wave either way

[fallow merlin]

I mean Reach changed the art style quite a bit. Even 3 did to an extent. But they still felt like Halo. They could have done that.

[serene furnace]

Cuz even if the fans were not gonna be angry with more familiriaty, that's were game reviewers go strict

[magic night]

Felt like Halo to me

[serene furnace]

It's not like Halo 4 doesn't feel like Halo

It's just how your perception sees it at the time. I mean when I first played Halo 2 I was having a hard time connecting the dots of how exactly it was a sequel to CE with all the new mechanics and different stuff, but it's part of the progression

[magic night]

Sci-fi space man in metal suit shooting pew pew guns at sci-fi aliens. Sounds like Halo.

[serene furnace]

When it's your first time, maybe, and just maybe, human weapons being now painted in black, the primary assault rifle gone, addition of dual wielding, Ghost and Banshee boost, vehicle hijacking, and Forerunner architecture being primarly stone when CE portrayed it all as metal, maybe, and just maybe, you won't notice at first glance that it feels like a sequel to CE

[ruby knoll]

yeah i played halo 4, never felt "this isn't halo" once

[ruby knoll]

smh forerunner stuff being stone? how are they gonna explain that, nanobots? pfft

[fallow merlin]

In a lot of ways it doesn’t feel like Halo. You can change things and have it still feel like Halo. The armor went from angular gritty designs to power rangers. The elites went from quick and agile, bobbing and weaving to big and bulky just standing there. Basically brutes. The grunts, the Forward Unto Dawn, etc. It looked and sounded very different. The storytelling was different. You could argue you like the changes, but I don’t know how you can argue nothing was changed in the first place

[ruby knoll]

halo 3 was power rangers

[fallow merlin]

It’s like saying Star Wars or Star Trek is Halo

[ruby knoll]

i don't think anyone says "halo 4 is totally unchanged"

[fallow merlin]

Guns and shooting space doesn’t make it Halo

[ruby knoll]

halo 4 changed a lot... still felt like halo to me

[fallow merlin]

There’s a reason they went back to the old music style and art style with Infinite

[serene furnace]

Why is this "power ranger" armor claim still attached to Halo 4? That's a thing that started in Halo 5

[fallow merlin]

They recognized they failed

I’ve gotta head out. Have a good night.

[magic night]

More like they recognized people couldn't let go of the past.

[ruby knoll]

halo 3 is literally plastic power rangers lmao

[uneven bison]

Spartans are plastic power rangers. They’ve always felt like that to me, which is why I like them

[serene furnace]

Yeah, the gritty realistic designs that Halo fans now act like it was always that, wasn't a thing until Reach

[grave ether]

It's halo with a slightly different vision. I wouldn't say it's like claiming "star wars or star trek is halo" because that implies that it was so different it was unrecognizable and that's just not the case. There were many differences, sure. But it was still halo

[magic night]

Power Rangers are pretty dope

[serene furnace]

I mean Power Rangers have swords, guess which was the first Halo game that allowed your Spartan to have a katana...

[ruby knoll]

noooooo halo was always a totally super mega super duper grounded milsim grity dark and gritty realistic super gritty super realistic hyperrealistic game

which is why you have midget aliens that spout jokes and scream in shrill voices
a green robot that churns out oneliners and threw a bomb at a spaceship
etc

[magic night]

Was it the one that crossed over with a game series that had magical ninjas?

[serene furnace]

And don't get me started on the marine funny lines

[ruby knoll]

DARK AND GRITTY

[uneven bison]

Look at my pfp. It’s concept art for carter. He’s got a huge dumb backpack, and a bulky big gun and like 6 knives in the full image. I like that. It’s obviously unrealistic, but it looks cool.

[serene furnace]

Yep. The opposite is also true btw, a Halo spartan is available as a playable character in Dead or Alive 4

[grave ether]

Most things about halo are unrealistic. The only thing that matters is:
The Rule of Cool

[serene furnace]

Exactly

[magic night]

Least interesting character in that game, too.

[ruby knoll]

yeah halo was always more 'rule of cool' than grounded tbh

[sullen anvil]

Would it be possible to make H2 Classic MP it’s own separate installation without having to install the anniversary???

[serene furnace]

Fans are so focused on how ugly the Elites look in 4/5 that I have heard very few of them say that the new Arbiter's armor is amazing

[uneven bison]

So suggesting that everything has to be dark and gritty is dumb. It can be, but it doesn’t have to be.

[ruby knoll]

see this is what i think people miss
Halo was never supposed to be some ultra grim and dark 40k type thing. It's more in a gray area of struggles but not total grimderp

[uneven bison]

Eh, 40k has flying churches. I think halo wanted to be more… not that.

Actually no I take that back. High charity

[serene furnace]

Elites in Reach might be threatening, but remember this Elite line exists in Halo 2: "Well Arbiter, I... I... I think you're cute too"

[ruby knoll]

oh tbh that's a different aspect
40k's scale is MASSIVE

i think most of Halo's plot happens in one arm of the milky way
40K is the whole galaxy

[grave ether]

It's supposed to be beyond believable odds where the power of friendship between a kidnapped augmented child forced into battle and a sarcastic but fun A.I. go on adventures and save the galaxy in the most heroic way

[uneven bison]

“Seriously, I’m not going to kiss you in front of EVERYONE!”

That’s an elite quote too

[serene furnace]

Halo fans want the series to be Martin Scorsese when in reality Halo is pure Michael Bay

[ruby knoll]

Michael Bay should've worked on the halo show
not even joking it would've fit probably

[uneven bison]

Oh gosh that would be so funny

[grave ether]

Michael bay + the lens flares from the Star Trek movies

[uneven bison]

And the goofy scene transitions from Star Wars

[grave ether]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[ruby knoll]

legit though, think about the halo 2 scene with chief flinging a bomb at a spaceship

pure michael bay

[uneven bison]

The whole “one man army” sort of aspect of chief feels like Michael bay

[ruby knoll]

ngl I didn't completely hate some of the ideas that the show went for, like a more gray UNSC, or showcasing the prophets being manipulators and such with the human in the covenant

[grave ether]

So many Spartans die, but not the Chief

[ruby knoll]

I actually liked the 'pet reclaimer' idea
the execution though...

[serene furnace]

Can't fully blame them, I know when something new arrives they love it so much that they want everything going forward to be just like that. Reach made the series darker and they expected more of that. And Halo was not the only one, remember some fans were disappointed at the silly GTA V story after how serious and realistic the GTA 4 one was

[ruby knoll]

well see that's the thing, Halo 4 was dark in its own way

John-117 does save the day, but he can't save Cortana

as if he was doomed to fail from the start, even if he could save Earth

[serene furnace]

Totally

[magic night]

In the same vein of how some fans were disappointed that GTA IV was so realistic when the pre-HD games were silly and over the top.

[serene furnace]

Exactly

[uneven bison]

Also showing that The forerunners were imperialistic whiners, not noble heroes.

[serene furnace]

Back in 2019 I suggested Halo Infinite being so realistic that vehicles would run out of gas, weapons would stop working if you kept using the same for too long and vehicle weapons could run out of ammo. It would have been immersive but my god that would have NOT been fun

[uneven bison]

Yeah.. I would not have liked that

[ruby knoll]

gun cleaning minigame

[tardy turtle]

I mean, building giant Death Hoola Hoops in space isn't really the action of Noble Heroes either

[ruby knoll]

magazine retrieval and reload minigame

[magic night]

This story thread on its own was enough to elevate Halo 4's story leagues above the other games. It was emotional, impactful, and well explored. You didn't get any strong character dynamics like that in the previous games.

[uneven bison]

Botw durability 👍
Halo infinite durability function:🗿

[tardy turtle]

Vehicles in the 2500's don't use gas, they run off water

[ruby knoll]

well tbh it was more like a "last option" kind of thing

[serene furnace]

That's interesting

I don't know if you feel me, but to me Halo 2 and Halo 4 (Infinite to some extent) feel like movies, while the other games are more like documentaries. Halo 2 and 4 are very focused on the main characters and how the story impacts them, while the others are on a higher scale without much focus on how the heroes react to the circumstances.

[tardy turtle]

To quote the Librarian from Halo 3 "Were we such noble [Guardians] when we drew our line and abandoned billions to the parasite? We've been irresistible and immovable for too long. Maybe it's our turn to give."

[uneven bison]

It’s funny thinking that here it’s totally acceptable to acknowledge that bungie was by no means perfect, while if were to say that on YouTube or Reddit i would be sent to hell

[tardy turtle]

Reddit... Ye gods

I would be flayed alive and my comments downvoted to oblivion for voicing my thoughts on Marty. Hel, I was.

[uneven bison]

Tis a silly place

[tardy turtle]

They eat ham and jam and Spam a lot

[serene furnace]

And I say nostalgia takes the critical thinking away a bit. I can totally remember the criticism for each game back in the window of time between their hype and release. Even nowadays you can still find websites from 2004-2007 where they are more critical than they'll ever be today

[uneven bison]

Nostalgia has a funny way of glorifying the past. I would know.

Just today actually my parents were talking about how easy it was to get lost and go missing in the era before smartphones.

You take a train by yourself, you don’t come back.. you could be halfway across the country by the time anyone notices.

[zealous panther]

Nostalgia are pretty bad thing in itself. Most of the time it's just making you lie to yourself.

[lime robin]

Quicklime and saltwater, yes?

[nocturne kelp]

Hey guys I need help… I’m like really bad at halo multiplayer

I’ve played halo for years mostly the campaign but I’m js the worst player online

[serene furnace]

I don't really know if I can help much, best I can say is practice makes perfect, the more multiplayer you play the better you'll get at it

[lime robin]

Infinite also introduced Academy mode. Play against bots until you can fare well against the ones on Spartan difficulty.

[sullen anvil]

I think Bot Bootcamp should be tucked away in the academy menu and stay there permanently tbh

[tardy turtle]

Or it's fine where it's at. Some of us really don't want to play with people who take the Matchmaking too seriously, and prefer to work our way through the Battle Passes leisurely.

[lone dagger]

superintendent is the goat

[maiden skiff]

Is halo infinite on PC crashing on startup for anyone else since Season 3 launched? if yes, did you found a solution?

[lime robin]

If you have a GPU that has less than 4 GBs of VRAM, you may have no solution.

[rapid trellis]

mcc is like 15 bucks on steam rn, should i get it?

[ruby knoll]

guize i think daefinite should be ported to Essence Engine??? upvote if argee

[unborn stirrup]

It took 3 years from halo 4 for halo 5 to come out, then it took 6 years from halo 5 for halo infinite, do you guys speculate there will be another halo within the next 3 years?

[smoky wave]

No

[rapid trellis]

343 themselves said they will work on infinite for the next 10 years back in 2020 or 2021, so its unlikely that they will make a new game when they promised this 10 year service

[finite river]

bungie said the same for destiny yet made destiny 2

[unborn stirrup]

Wtf, but what about campaign and other games? I want a halo rpg game 😂

[unborn stirrup]

Who knows if they mean it, I doubt it means no halo games for 10 years

I would love for them to release an rpg mode in halo infinite where you create a spartan and do quests and stuff, I just started playing the campaign and got outside into the open world and love it

[rapid trellis]

were talking about 343 not bungie lol

[rapid trellis]

they can have dlcs for infinite, and i also doubt that there will be no halo games, some spinoffs here and there as cashgrabs, but after that no main halo games after that

[finite river]

i know

[smoky wave]

Activision had other plans on that matter

[finite river]

im saying just because a company says they are doin 10 year support doesn't actually mean they will do it

all comes down to playerbase and funds

[smoky wave]

Bungie really considered doing that plan but Activision wanted a new game every 2 years or something

If they stayed with them, we would have at this point Destiny 3

[rapid trellis]

didnt destiny 2 release in 2017/18? so we would have destiny 4 or 5????

[smoky wave]

I just woke up so I'm not calculating all of it buuut yeah

And about 343 with the 10 year plan, it was said from a old employee
And after the leadership changes, layoffs and all I'm not sure if that plan still is up

So basically, it is waiting and see

[rapid trellis]

with wat you said, the 10 year plan might become a 5 year or 3 year plan, i say 3/5 year since 2 years passed since infinite released

[finite river]

another 2 years seems more likely

gona have to drop x1 at some point

• with it still using blam as a base it will eventually run into the issues as halo 5 and destiny 2 does with a content limit

[rapid trellis]

should i get mcc?? its cheap on steam rn and its at an affordable price (for my standards)

[smoky oasis]

Yes

Pretty incredible value for what it is.

[finite river]

yes

[olive brook]

If you got the money for it it’s 100% worth it

[limber karma]

Can you guys PLEASE for the love of !!!!, make it so that Snipers aren't a complete and utter game changer?

Just put 1 on each map they belong on, make sure that there's less bullets, they are more powerful than SPANKERs.

I don't care if you have to get "precision shots :B". I've gotten some and it never made the game more fun.

And if precision shots matter so much, every gun should just kill on headshot immediately.

[tepid latch]

My guy, its a power weapon, thats the point of them... to be limited and powerful

this isnt call of duty this has always been the way with halo, a sniper headshot will kill in one, any other precision weapon is just effective from longer ranges, thats the whole point

[signal ivy]

please remove all fun from game!

[crystal iron]

Did you ever played halo before? Sniper is a power weapon and is supposed to be poweful. If every weapon would be killing with one headshot, no one would pick up weapons that are spawning on map.

[signal ivy]

we call that SWAT (or Tactical Slayer now)

[limber fox]

Will we ever have an update ?

[signal ivy]

sure

[limber fox]

settings keep resetting for like a month

[signal ivy]

maybe the fix will come with the update this week https://twitter.com/HaloSupport/status/1639439494888951808?t=UxcQZI_NuyNYGmnpSdW_pA&s=19

Halo Support (@HaloSupport)

A #HaloInfinite patch improving stability and addressing top Forge issues is planned to be released next week. We'll provide an update when we've confirmed the release date, so stay tuned! Full patch notes will be shared when the patch is available for download on all platforms.

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[finite river]

unlikely since it only says stability

that would mean crashing or fps issues

[signal ivy]

well right now the settings are unstable because they reset

they won't put everything they're fixing in that tweet, they'll save it for the patch notes

[limber karma]

I'm being ironic when I said all headshots should one shot kill

[coarse dagger]

Unless it's 100% locked in, you'll generally find messaging like this is intentionally vague. Last minute issues can always crop up and push a bug fix out. Better not to 100% commit until it's good to go

[limber karma]

And also, it's the most powerful power weapon there is. By the time someone good enough with it uses all the bullets, another appears. Cindershot is nowhere near as powerful.

[magic night]

It's also got a fairly high skill ceiling to offset that. Most people won't hit all 8 possible headshots with it to use it to its maximum potential.

[surreal solstice]

wish we had undersuit customization seperate from armor coatings (in halo infinite)

[north stag]

That could be kind of neat perhaps.

[zinc hedge]

i think a black undersuit goes well with everything

[olive brook]

imagine a world where.. invasion is a social playlist on mcc..

[surreal solstice]

fr

[olive brook]

world peace achieved

[zealous panther]

I wonder why there is no warzone in infinite. It looks like build for this game

[strange estuary]

no

[obtuse storm]

Snipers are relatively unchanged from prior games in terms of power. lol.

[sage hill]

I heard from a YouTuber that 343 has a policy now to push out updates when 90% ready then forward fix any bugs / problems in future updates, is this true?

[devout kite]

Is it me or players in rank doesn’t know how to play the objective like it isn’t that hard lol

[strange estuary]

probably just a rumor but it really feels like it lol

[magic night]

That just sounds like agile development.

[signal ivy]

tbh I stopped reading after "I heard from a YouTuber"

[magic night]

Release an update with as much content and bug fixes as feasible, while leaving stuff that would take longer for the next sprint.

[frosty condor]

Read your own statement and ask yourself if that comment came from a reliable source

[coarse dagger]

spoiler: ||They don't do that||

[signal ivy]

I can't believe you spoiled that stckr

[devout kite]

Like stckr said 343 don’t do that so your information is wrong please stop spreading misinformation

[lime robin]

Y'all, Madara hasn't even replied, stop the slaughter 🥴

[signal ivy]

can I steal that?

[frosty condor]

Surprised you haven’t already

[lime robin]

Do thieves ask for permission?

[strange estuary]

based

[devout kite]

I already stole it lol

[frosty condor]

https://tenor.com/view/good-family-guy-cartoon-gif-13932755

[grave ether]

All I know is smart ones don't confess

[sage hill]

Love this, most people source these days 😂

Anyways I'll do more digging on the interewebs to find answers just thought there might be a pro captain here

[maiden skiff]

RTX 3070ti

[lime robin]

Follow these
#1082991760814395512 message

[maiden skiff]

Isn't that a fix for the beta of the game? regardless, didn't worked

[lime robin]

It's not a fix, it's to know what the problem is.

Either way there's been no definitive answer yet. The best you can do is send in a support ticket with the details from problem reports and a special file that's in your game directory.

[maiden skiff]

i did, sent the dxdiag to them since weeks ago and still cant open the game, even after yesterday's update

[lime robin]

There wasn't an update yesterday? 🤨

[foggy torrent]

I love Halo Infinite-beta.

[lime robin]

And either way dxdiag is a mandatory file, it's not the file that I meant.

But if they haven't requested anything extra, I'd leave it at that.

[maiden skiff]

oh sorry, it was on the 24th, i updated yesterday

[devout kite]

Can 343 stop giving me teammates that are bad at objectives in rank like it’s annoying

[frosty condor]

Be the change

[strange estuary]

simply play solo

[short heart]

don’t play ranked with randoms it causes hair loss

[strange estuary]

don’t play ranked it causes hair loss

[devout kite]

Like some players are good while the other are trash that think it’s slayer like I can’t be carrying the team every single match lol

[devout kite]

Can’t there’s no solo/duo anymore

[strange estuary]

certified moment

[short heart]

just stop playing with randoms
i’ve made the same complains

[tame crane]

when is the update for infinite supposed to be? im getting rather annoyed at its consist crashes when im doing ranked

[magic night]

No date, but expected to be sometime this week

[quaint inlet]

Has anyone gotten rounds in infection mcc recently?

[neon vapor]

They said it themselves when they released the CGB

[coarse dagger]

A chunk of the community asked for it to be released early and we're happy it was available before Season 3

[devout kite]

Can’t I want to hit Diamond solo or at least try

[short heart]

lmao

[devout kite]

How’s that funny

I’m plat five almost halfway there