No hermes till elysium
#h1-victory-boasting
primal crown
primal crown
Didnt even noticed it
violet bloom
3 sack 
rain ruin
ebon berry
why's that so close? 
rain ruin
Because EM4 sucks
ebon berry
FO2 rama 
ebon berry
shrewd sail
woooo
rain ruin
Bouldy believed in you
dim aspen
alcohol solved my problems
primal crown
Drunken strike eris my beloved
warm notch
funny zoos. styx jolted kinda sadge
hollow jacinth
(First glance) wow what a fleshed out build!
(Sees Hermes)
ebon berry
hard solar
What's modded fists?
warm notch
they appear to have disappeared 
ebon berry
What's modded fists?
Speedrunning modpack
hard solar
Ah okay
ebon berry
QoL improvements, not actual balance changes
hard solar
But that clear time is only 19:39
ebon berry
55 heat
hard solar
Ah
ebon berry
hard solar
So at high heat you cut back on TD? ... Interesting
No wait, I'm being dumb, anything under 20 is good for TD3 of course!!
ebon berry
hard solar
Sorry, it's late here and I'm tired.
primal crown
Splitting in tartarus without rolls lmao also 6/6 32 heat ig
warm notch
zeuwus pretty gud
primal crown
Zeuwus
warm notch
lunar peak
Diowonysuwus
distant geyser
Oh my god
lunar peak
FORGOT TO CENSOR THAT ONE WORD LMAO
warm notch
zeuwus pretty gud
@smoky tulip zeus seems pretty fine
lunar peak
me who lost all his 3 death defiences on him and then died not knowing that that damn sloopy foony fooky booky has death defiance too or something
warm notch
wait why ya watching funny spoiler vid then
lunar peak
I know already he revives
distant geyser
Did you just refer to skelly as sloopy foony fooky booky
lunar peak
Did you just refer to skelly as sloopy foony fooky booky
no, It was on Hades
distant geyser
Ah
distant geyser
Lmao
shrewd sail
random oriole
finally won with the room 1 ER seed
warm notch
em4 
random oriole
Not too terrible with FO1 TD2
was a 4 sack too
cursive yoke
Not a victory boast exactly but I wanted to share my 100% achievement list for Hades! I just got the final achievement 5 minutes ago where you're supposed to get 30% bonus damage with Than's keepsake. It was rough! I had played dozens of times just to get that.
This is only my second game in my entire list of 333 games owned that I had completed all achievements for. š
smoky tulip
<@!747893020942401677> zeus seems pretty fine
i guess you need fated authority to succeed more consistently
pure turtle
first time beating him, first attempt with shield, although got to him with fists before this
ebon berry
misty falcon
Could've gotten a 3rd legendary (also got Chaos somehow) but noooooo. Was more of a wake up run than a serious attempt
primal crown
Sir where is your 2nd hermes
rain ruin
I hope you megged
misty falcon
uhh there was a shop and then he just dipped 'till Styx and I couldn't afford it :x
chilly silo
Not a victory boast exactly but I wanted to share my 100% achievement list for H...
Congrats! I did that on PS4 a week ago (Than keepsake was also my last trophy š) and after Christmas, I plan to get the pot again when I get a PS5ā¦as someone who had done over 300 100% game completionsā¦you picked one of the best games to do it with!
misty falcon
Youāre improving alot tho
Attempts are being made <3
misty falcon
eyy good job!!
rain ruin
Nice
primal crown
Gaming
viral elm
spear PB sub 8
primal crown
trippy shot 
viral elm
but grandma didnt want to give me ice wine :[
misty falcon
man... got 5 sacked :(
primal crown
Not bad for 5 sack
misty falcon
was fun untill I started getting hit with those Elysium arrow traps while having a 300% trap dmg chaos curse
timid olive
Lucy's gun+Athena's Special boon is something fantastic
rain ruin
ebon berry
Delta 
rain ruin
Imagine getting free rooms
Whenever I have a trash build I get the best rooms
And whenever my build is nearly insane I get no free rooms and unarmored witches
ebon berry
viral elm
unarmoured swordsmen and unarmoured witches best room type
cursive yoke
Congrats! I did that on PS4 a week ago (Than keepsake was also my last trophy š...
Thank you! It was very satisfying and I like that the achievements aren't impossible like some games are. They're hard to get but doable.
And ooh, good luck on getting the ps5! I hear that they're hard to come by.
viral elm
unpommed splashdash
rain ruin
It's epic atleast
ebon berry
It's epic atleast <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
quaint bluff
no way but did yall look at my prf
chilly silo
Thank you! It was very satisfying and I like that the achievements aren't imposs...
Appreciate itā¦thankfully I got a friend in the US who got me one a couple months ago and is holding onto it till I visit in December š¬
cursive yoke
Appreciate itā¦thankfully I got a friend in the US who got me one a couple months...
Oooh lucky duck!! Well, hope you have a good visit.
stray junco
Is billowing strength with smoldering air a build people do?
hollow jacinth
Yes, and second wind
stray junco
What's second wind do
hollow jacinth
30% dodge chance and movement speed after using the call
stray junco
That sounds like a fun build
rain ruin
primal crown
Ap2 RD 
rain ruin
3/24 at 50 Heat
primal crown
Gaming
warm notch
gamer 
ebon berry
Ap2 RD <:dusa:522248771409543188>
its AP1 lol
primal crown
smol icon too hard to read
violet bloom
just pretend its ap2
ebon berry
my original zag shield 50 did have AP2 lol
and it did have common rush delivery
try to ignore that
rain ruin
Look at that ferocious value
ebon berry
wat
warm notch
wot 
stray junco
3/24 at 50 Heat
Wow with so few boons. Did you record it? Hah
rain ruin
Nah I dont record usually
stray junco
Is that just pure skill of never getting hit
warm notch
not getting hit does help
acoustic crypt
had a lot of fun with this build. get 4 pulses going then charge in either with the call or good ol fists
rain ruin
Who needs boons anyway, 4/24
ebon berry
Who needs boons anyway, 4/24
stray junco
Was that a specific challenge or just how the run went and you managed the dub anyway
ebon berry
Just forced aphrodite attack
Didnt mean it
Close to timing out due to low damage but it was fine
warm notch
nice tart
granite laurel
Absolutely loved this build. Arrows and bolts galore with every hit, and super OP festive fog that comes back and even does damage on the way back
Also my first run after unlocking the last companion šš¼
stray junco
Which aspect is that, Poseidon?
warm notch
nemesis
stray junco
O
ebon berry
ripe silo
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/436308843924815881/912100952926986271/unknown.png?width=754&height=424 Eris Hazard bomb best combo
grand yacht
hard token
wait huh??
how can meg help?
i thought game wouldnt let you do that
winged shoal
after a while hades lets you use all companions
hard token
ohhhh
crisp ginkgo
Winning ugly is still winning
The Achilles that couldnāt decide what it wanted to be
Also trying this pact to mix it up since Iām kinda over pushing heat and this feels fresh more like zombie horde mode since I never mess with js. Erebus first room win with js3 feels good
crisp ginkgo
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/912122266190508032/321...
Man i canāt even get heart rend and spread fire without any AP
random oriole
RD Rama 
crisp ginkgo
RD Rama <:squirtheh:456913427563282433>
am i crazy or is the number font different in the chinese version
warm notch
it is
random oriole
Korean uses the same number font iirc
stray junco
How fun was this
warm notch
idk whats the point of bullrushing with this aspect once you get outta tart and have your hammers going
viral elm
Proving that boons are a scam
clearly only won because of greater evasion
ebon berry
Nice build
ebon berry
viral elm
couldve saved 0.1s dashing to the first boon more efficiently <:bouldy:523329116...
my first boon dash was impeccable
1.01
which is the fastest you can do with non achilles i think
viral elm
guess im just bad then
ive only gotten sub 1s with achilles
also dad why do you have to insta darkness out of phase you cost me the sub 7 
ebon berry
Kbm first boon
viral elm
behold <@!498378125466402827>
how tf
ebon berry
warm notch
heh imagine not having omnidirectional dashing
viral elm
man KBM is unoptimal
ange1 do you know whats the fastest you can do on KBM
without achilles/gilga
warm notch
you know I think I might be a genius...
when cant upload fight. gimme a minute
also why does trimming the video make the file bigger
this is kinda big brain ngl
brave fulcrum
marble creek
Compared to you folks I'm probably still new, but discovered the joys of ~6k crits with the raingun special on my last run. (Edit: couldn't find a clip of those right now though)
Also, Theseus used to be my least favourite boss (probably still is)
https://clips.twitch.tv/ResoluteGracefulMangoPastaThat-CK9VEmQQoy1_ehRE
ebon berry
warm notch
swift flourish hazard bomb kinda stonks
winged shoal
guess i'm a hera main now
primal crown
Epic trippy flare and heroic drunken flourish
winged shoal
tbh i should've taken strong drink but monkey brain went "ooo red"
rain ruin
Just missing Charged volley
violet bloom
Kbm first boon <:shadegrief:520448187358642194>
Kbm gang
ebon berry
rain ruin
rain ruin
fists peeb
primal crown
Gaming
rain ruin
sword pb, still working on it tho, I think this fight was 52-53 sec
All sub9s now atleast
grand yacht
How fun was this
Well, I kept slapping them while the shield hit them and the burst damage was so high I had to do different throw-return-catch cycles depending on the enemy.
Small ones popped instantly, bigger ones took a little while longer, mini-bosses melted like butter and bosses went away fast.
So I'd say it was pretty fun.
It would have been even faster with more Ares boon drops, but my luck only went so far.
stray junco
Well, I kept slapping them while the shield hit them and the burst damage was so...
Did you switch to the plume in Elysium and use Ares and Athena keepsake or did you use it from the start and get super lucky boon drops?
ebon berry
lilac burrow
I have 9 escapes so far 
ebon berry
its beautiful
quasi kestrel
you know I think I might be a genius...
Serpent hammer good?
grand yacht
Did you switch to the plume in Elysium and use Ares and Athena keepsake or did y...
Lucky boon drops with a little bit of rerolling and a VERY lucky muse rarity +up. Had ~10 boons and both ups landed on atk and spec.
quasi kestrel
I'm thinking with rush you'd have more uptime but ig hades doesnt move enough for that
On enemies though
warm notch
rush wut
warm notch
well winged serpent just goes past enemies anyways so like
quasi kestrel
Yeah fair. I'll have to try it
warm notch
also bad news has 100% uptime
quasi kestrel
I thought you had rush lol
warm notch
also this is the cooler build smh
in the prototype build
the kewler one has bad news
quasi kestrel
This was just a kite build
Like just throw it, dash, recall, dash away from it and lead it into enemies
With rush and 80 damage bolts, it does a lot
quasi kestrel
Kiting is definitely not fast
warm notch
still want to catch the shield actually stick it back on enemies unless like youre stupid good with zeus
hard solar
I've got a video where I am sure that one tick of stubborn roots is what made the difference between winning and losing.
stray junco
10 hp and 3 seconds
rain ruin
Gamer
grand yacht
The feeling when you get +1 level from poms very early on and upgrade your eris special to level 4 in the next two chambers is nice.
tame flame
Doesnāt get much closer than that
nova vine
brazen fiber
only third victory, but smallest amount of boons iāve used yet! was able to buy charonās titanblood too š
quasi kestrel
still want to catch the shield actually stick it back on enemies unless like you...
I spent most of that run throwing the shield once or twice per room
Hyper sprint really helps
Get a good dash and lead it through enemies
sweet radish
New butterfly PB. Could've been a lot higher as I got hit several times in Hades, heroes and asphodel. Still pretty happy with it though.
Also if I got athena
warm notch
"pls no serrated"
primal crown
Lmao
grave compass
Didn't even matter that I had Hera's bow and a heroic cast. The chill and the calling alone were destruction
crisp ginkgo
Didn't even matter that I had Hera's bow and a heroic cast. The chill and the ca...
casual em4
very based 
rain ruin
Lol
ebon berry
stray junco
How'd you get mirage shot and dio cast
ebon berry
How'd you get mirage shot and dio cast
Sold posideon's special im assuming
Theres no reason to keep it after mirage shot
stray junco
How the heck did you set that up, get the boon, sell it, pick up dio, and get it to level 10 šØ
Perfect RNG
winged shoal
i always say any roguelike game needs your time, skill, and a healthy appreciation of probability
hades is very lenient on the last one because of the rerolls
and how you can force boons
lunar peak
it's not a very fast time, not my pb either but im really proud of the boons i ended with and yaya i play with god mode but thats nerve dmg for ya ;;^^
warm notch
How'd you get mirage shot and dio cast
got mirage from tidal dash
then sold that
i started with dio cast
ebon berry
warm notch
barriers everywhere, teleporting, butterflies stunlocking me.....
ebon berry
Just beo things
winged shoal
it's not a very fast time, not my pb either but im really proud of the boons i e...
lv8 divine flourish š³
i dont think ive ever pommed an athena boon willingly
warm notch
that u shaped gap in the middle f's you up when you cant dash.....
winged shoal
congrats
ebon berry
it's not a very fast time, not my pb either but im really proud of the boons i e...
You really like the alternate mirror huh
winged shoal
yellow mirror > purple mirror anytime
who needs two dashes when you got 50% damage from near misses
(this is a joke and i use a healthy balance of yellow and purp)
lunar peak
i just mostly play with what makes it easier on my hands ;;^^
ebon berry
lunar peak
and the high lvl was from pom flower and demeters "boon to upgrade other boons"
warm notch
how much % does a pom even give when its over lvl 3
lunar peak
pom flower lv 3 lvls up a random boon every...4 encounters i think it is?
lunar peak
i havent gone that hardcore into mechanics so in my case that doesnt tell me much ^^ i mostly try going for pure dps unless im specifically working on duo boon collecting
warm notch
like basically once you get a % damage boon like divine flourish to lvl like 3, leveling it more is gunna have barely any increases
lunar peak
ah! got it
but its not really in my control when i have 2 things upgrading/lvling up a random boon after x encounters
warm notch
yeah usually its better to use other keepsakes than mom pom
lunar peak
but free lvls xD nono i getchu, maybe mom pom is better when going for flat dmg instead of % dmg
warm notch
usually youd rather just use god keepsakes
getting damage numbers is more about taking a core boon then grabbing other boons and hammers that synergize with that boon rather just pomming it to infinity
lunar peak
speaking of the mom pom.... i forgot to unequip it(i was up at like 1am when i started the run...) but im more suprised i got thru w the bow. im really bad using it;;^^
i saved n quit when i got to the temple last night so i could sleep xD
warm notch
the bow benefits quite a lot from having the second mirror dash
though ig you had an extra from hermes
lunar peak
is multi-dash controversial? i havent really interacted w the community so im quite clueless bout ...like everything strat wise
warm notch
well in general you want greater reflex on every weapon
shields can do with a single dash better than other weapons tho
and hidden fists has more dashes to start
double the dashes means double the iframes and ability to position
and for a lot of weapons you want to be dash striking
lunar peak
see, i can do maybe 2 or if im lucky 3 runs w lots of dash-striking before ye olde nerve dmg makes my hands go ouchpain
so my setup is "how to max playtime" ;;^^
warm notch
would it be easier for you if you put dash on a different button?
putting dash on a bumper or trigger isnt uncommon
warm notch
my controls are like completely messed up from the default lol
lunar peak
imma try w dash on rb for a run, see if my hands like that more (its mostly right hand that needs to like it)
warm notch
maybe left side tho then if that hand is better? unless its awkward
lunar peak
and cuz i wanna be nice to my thumb, atk is now on lb
warm notch
ic
lunar peak
so, slightly dif mapping, and 1st try w aspect of arthur cuz why not
ebon berry
Arthur 
warm notch
@ivory token normally you dont use the spin attack much tbh
ivory token
winged shoal
dio never did give me that feast
hard solar
Still, looks like you didn't have any trouble
primal crown
stubborn roots carry
winged shoal
i had trouble keeping up high confidence, that's for sure
winged shoal
stubborn roots carry
stubborn roots hard carry.
hard solar
stubborn roots hard carry.
Wait what!?
rain ruin
Just your average 2 minute Elysium
hard solar
This was from ages ago, but since people were talking about stubborn roots saving a run:
https://youtu.be/_1sKXghCyzQ
winged shoal
Just your average 2 minute Elysium
love that level on heartbreak strike
hard solar
That's what I thought š¤£
winged shoal
wishing it was a purp or red though
hard solar
Yeah, purple Aphrodite is great.
ebon berry
Consistently garbage still<:failbag:459075377814568960>
Vod review vod review vod review vod review
rain ruin
I would
But internet is so bad
I havent even submitted a run
Flurry is a big mistake
grave compass
Imagine if I had gotten the (increase crit chance based on hangover stacks) duo.
viral elm
turns out lucky boons and rooms can save you from being terrible with a weapon to give a pretty decent time
200 damage dashes without eris 
tame flame
First time beating 32 heat, feeling super accomplished
primal crown
delta chamber comfy
hollow jacinth
Epic strike on eris
rain ruin
Look at that golden touch value
tame flame
Delta was absolutely my saving grace
barren osprey
twin karma
š„
hard solar
@ember forge were you the person not getting a DD on principle? If so, great job on first clear.
ember forge
Yeah I was. Thanks :D @hard solar
signal tapir
twin karma
Hera is a callspect
zinc lintel
Based Anvil
chilly silo
12/24 aspects at 32 heatā¦halfway there and played pretty sloppily, barely using Special by the endā¦bow def my weakest but Athena kept me safe
worn quartz
Surprisingly fast run, probably could've been a sub 10 if I found the sack earlier but oh well, proud of it still
ebon berry
Surprisingly fast run, probably could've been a sub 10 if I found the sack earli...
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAOEli9KqJOVyPD7U-6D1o1yZx1tDMQWLDcMJr8G84E/edit should probably check this out if you're planning on going fast
your mirror is really unoptimized
worn quartz
oh it absolutely is, never really read any guide haha, thanks o/
rain ruin
pact could use some Forced overtime aswell
warm notch
ruthless reflex on non shields/gilga
ebon berry
RR sword
hard solar
My fresh file to credits one continues (attempt #7). I nearly had to use a DD on this run!
rain ruin
Mirror looking nice
primal crown
first time seeing fisher king lol
primal crown
gaming
dire current
grave compass
Finally got the Demeter boons I wanted using the aspect of Demeter, of all things
grave compass
LETS GOOOO
Congratulations!
random oriole
hera 50 <:dusa:522248771409543188>
was wondering where my AP luck went
sonic spindle
5 rockets in the face just deleting all my problems away
viral elm
5 rockets in the face just deleting all my problems away
CF2 CP2 RI1 32 heat
warm notch
twin karma
I just wanted a bow sub 10
brave fulcrum
twin karma
Hera gaming
muted jackal
sonic spindle
lmao whats wrong with 32 heat cp2 and cf2 ri1? did i make it way harder on myself?
winged shoal
its the cp2 dc2 td3 combo that scares me really
i think you wouldve had an easier time if you amped your hl
sonic spindle
oooh
brave fulcrum
viral elm
lmao whats wrong with 32 heat cp2 and cf2 ri1? did i make it way harder on mysel...
RI is almost always a terrible pick for heat in sub 40 heat
and honestly probably higher than 40
warm notch
lmao whats wrong with 32 heat cp2 and cf2 ri1? did i make it way harder on mysel...
cp is pretty horrible since it affects bosses unlike js especially when you have a weapon like eris that has good aoe damage. increasing enemy health is pretty much gunna make you take more damage, likely even more than hl2 as it increases breakpoints so enemies are staying armored longer and groups are cut down less quickly. also routine inspections is absolutely terrible since the last 3 mirror perks are incredibly useful for making strong builds
also olympian favor is not at all worth it compared to dark foresight
brave fulcrum
is that hunting blades on poseidon lol
wanted to run hunting blades, darkness thingy was on sword
that's the only reason
warm notch
its much easier to remove routine inspections and switch to dark foresight then put that 2 heat in underworld customs
ebon berry
well dang that's funny lmao
sonic spindle
those reactions gave me such a good laugh. i did 32 heat because i found out that after 1.0, the third skelly statue went up in cost from 24 heat, so i felt like i wanted to really earn it. this was my 24 heat run https://i.redd.it/z2u03ma5xaw31.jpg
the pact changed quite a bit, but i again limited my mirror
ebon berry
What was snake oil?
warm notch
thats a mighty old image
sonic spindle
snake oil was what they called upgrading the boss i think
i think snake oil was changed to extreme measures
misty falcon
Iāve never played that version, but it sounds like FO to me
sonic spindle
oh, snake oil was specifically just for upgrading hydra
viral elm
those reactions gave me such a good laugh. i did 32 heat because i found out tha...
TD3 used to be 6 min per region
also is budget cuts the same as RI?
FO being worth only 1 heat
sonic spindle
yeah budget cuts was RI but you could choose which mirror aspects to limit
sonic spindle
hahahaha
viral elm
you cant even get SD
i hope that was worth atleast like 6 heat at the time or something
because otherwise its not worth at all
sonic spindle
i think it was worth a lot, td and budget cuts gave me the most heat i think
warm notch
max budget cuts better than ri3
viral elm
max budget cuts better than ri3 <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
by better do you mean worse for the player
warm notch
well ri3 means no dash
sonic spindle
yeah that's suicide
warm notch
rather have a dash
viral elm
rather have a dash
you would rather have +1 dash than SD for high heat
warm notch
most weapons are automatically f-ed with a single dash other than shield or gilga unless youre just gunna reset for greatest reflex
also depends on the heat
32 fine. 40 doable. over 40 well so what you have sd if you have one dash
sonic spindle
what is sd?
sonic spindle
oooh
warm notch
its often used at 32 and above heat to deal with lc4
austere oasis
This was my first attempt at a speed run (not recorded, just wanted to see how well I'd do). NOTHING went according to plan, lmao.
But I actually got a cool cast combo that I might aim for in the future.
Checking the current speed run records, this would have placed me in 811th place (Any Heat Category). Not bad for a first attempt where all my plans failed, lol.
primal crown
Cast build on hades spear, nice
austere oasis
Cast build on hades spear, nice
like I said, NOTHING went according to plan, lmao.
austere oasis
kinda want greater reflex on spear
yeah, once the run started I was like "oops forgot to switch the dash... eh, extra dodge and damage is also good, so let's see" lol.
would have loved to get 1 or 2 Hermes dashes (greatest reflex) added on, but oh well, lol.
ebon berry
You should turn on EM2 and turn off tight deadline to start off
Also not really a speedrunny build
austere oasis
You should turn on EM2 and turn off tight deadline to start off
really? why turn on EM2 on "any heat"? figured they're just that much harder. though if it helps somehow, I'd love to know.
as for Tight deadline, I did that just too keep the time pressure up for myself. which honestly, wasn't an issue at all so meh.
Forced overtime, just helped with spans and getting things close faster. I'm playing with the idea of making it 40%, but that might be too much, getting hit slows things down a lot, lol.
ebon berry
EM2 makes your lernie fight faster
Tight deadline will disable survival rooms, you want those since they pause the in game timer
austere oasis
EM2 makes your lernie fight faster
really, I never really noticed that. will have to time that later.
austere oasis
Tight deadline will disable survival rooms, you want those since they pause the ...
oh shoot, I totally read that somewhere, good point
ebon berry
You can look at the aspect wr on the leaderboard for the general build and mirror you'd want to go for
warm notch
em2 makes the lernie head spawns closer together
austere oasis
yeah, I think the only time FO2 "MIGHT" be worth it is Zag gloves
I also forgot to switch out my Companion from bouldy, lmao
ebon berry
Its quite good on rail too with zeus attack with jolted because you attack doesn't stun, meaning faster jolted damage problem procs
warm notch
other than spawn speeds, fo2 also helps with faster jolted procs
austere oasis
lol
ebon berry
Rolldy 
warm notch
if you want an easier/more consistent aspect to speedrun id prolly pick beowulf or eris
ebon berry
Hades spear is really hammer dependant, and that goes for all spears unfortunately
austere oasis
I like the idea of Beowulf, Zag Gloves, and Hestia atm, but I'll be playing around with it
austere oasis
Hades spear is really hammer dependant, and that goes for all spears unfortunate...
agreed, I really wanted the explosive special, lol
ebon berry
Also turn off aim at cursor when playing rail if you are on kbm
austere oasis
Also turn off aim at cursor when playing rail if you are on kbm
oh yeah, turned that off ages ago. aim assist I turn on and off depending of the weapon
ebon berry
Aim assist I recommend keeping on always
austere oasis
some times it aims at the dumbest things, lol
warm notch
achilles special
ebon berry
austere oasis
like Hades' vases... that's right next to me...
anyways. tis 6am, gotta hit that sack, lol.
Great talk though, thanks for all the tips guys!
viral elm
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/913033720116682782/176...
how
are you planning to do all zag aspects at 54
ebon berry
lmao
I am absolutely not tormenting myself with more fists
I got my 55 demeter and im satisfied
ebon berry
Hmm yes ME with AP2
viral elm
just get the boons
ebon berry
zinc lintel
also olympian favor is not at all worth it compared to dark foresight
Canāt lose dark foresight to RI1 if you never use it in the first place
primal crown
+3 dashes then exclusive access right after
grand yacht
ebon berry
Kinetic
grand yacht
long range attacks and charged shot specials made for a fists build with pretty good zoning ability.
That and its damage output was crazy as usual for demeter fists.
viral elm
elysium was just a little bit too slow
rain ruin
ebon berry
common jolted 
rain ruin
Second styx tunnel and had to roll it lol
paper nacelle
zeus and artemis are always such a good combo xD
rain ruin
hera hard
primal crown
Winter harvest, nice
crisp ginkgo
Not even a real boon
twin karma
those reactions gave me such a good laugh. i did 32 heat because i found out tha...
They really just called AP what it is LOL
viral elm
sub 8 achilles
ebon berry
crisp ginkgo
Based
ebon berry
save lag when 
rain ruin
1000 runs and 472 clears is some peak gaming
signal tapir
this was so fun
ebon berry
Chiron 
rain ruin
Goated Hermes
primal crown
thats a blessed hermes
hollow jacinth
I bet em4 went down pretty quickly then
twin karma
Blessed
warm notch
Some wave pounding would've been nice
is wave pounding that good on tempest flourish its just additive right unless it also affects seastorm
violet bloom
ange1 shield too powerful
severe jungle
Zag shield heartbreak strike charged shot is very fun
itās the only way I enjoy playing a non-Zeus or Beo shield
warm notch
explosive return kinda stonks
violet bloom
ap2 moment
rain ruin
more dad melting
stable kestrel
just tried and immediately cleared my first 32 heat run and it was... an absolute cakewalk. didn't even crack my acorn
i know the endurance run is not a popular concept around here, but with zeus shield it's just stupid easy
previous best was 25 heat doing pretty much the same grindy concept
hollow jacinth
The main part is that you won, and it wasnāt even close
warm notch
probably wouldve been faster swapping attack and special
stable kestrel
probably, but that is not the order in which the gods blessed me
I did not at all mean to keep Crystal Beam but it just kinda worked out
ebon berry
ange1 shield too powerful
green rain
i got a streak of 3
violet bloom
thats cool but do you have a streak of 200?
violet bloom
idk what im doing
hollow jacinth
Where muck
violet bloom
Idk
unkempt maple
cunning torrent
after many attempts I finally cleared 32 heat. on top of this, I didn't lose a DD through the whole run. purple rare crop in tartarus made things breezy
crisp ginkgo
i know the endurance run is not a popular concept around here, but with zeus shi...
Thereās no need to justify winning š unorthodox approach, but who cares, enjoy your statue
summer ore
First win :D
crisp ginkgo
MEME BEAM
summer ore
Fr itās so good
grave compass
Raging rush to position chill lasers then spam dash strikes and triple jab for aoe destruction.
grave compass
Dash striking and bouncy casts going all over the place!
brave fulcrum
is this how you play eris?
ebon berry
primal crown
seems right, but no hyper sprint + rare RD for the real eris experience
grave compass
This is the most destruction I've ever sown with these fists. Mom blossom was leveling (mostly) the right things and I got low tolerance practically immediately after I got weak and hangover.
winged shoal
mm. smoldering with billow and clouded judgement
lime bane
Where is my low tolerance
It was there, you just don't remember it. 
lime bane
Nice Low Tolerance build.
lime bane
No.
rain ruin
Hammers dont exist
dire trout
extremely scuffed run lol i got super unlucky with the boons and the cast
dire trout
also just got this pretty good run with a 1k+ dmg rush
rain ruin
40 Heat PB
violet bloom
Nice
viral elm
40 Heat PB
better than my anyheat bow PB :[
rain ruin
better than my anyheat bow PB :[
Rama 2gud what can I say
twin karma
40 Heat PB
Letās go my anyheat pb is 36 milliseconds faster
lunar peak
how much titan blood for the aspect of rama?
rain ruin
15
lunar peak
I already have the aspect of Guan Yu
zinc lintel
Check #h1-story-discussion pretty sure
rain ruin
vivid locust
fun cursed flurry
rain ruin
Beo ez
primal crown
Beo gaming
grave compass
I am poo at the aspect of Guan Yu. Would have been toast if it weren't for the extra mobility. The last time I ever used the Frost Fair Blade was before I'd even beaten 10 heat, and I died in Asphodel.
chilly silo
A comfy Captain Aquaman buildā¦that was a breeze after failing/timing out at Hades with TD3
The attack rotation of cast, dash-attack, toss shield+explosion, dash-strike and then repeat was rhythmic and smooth sailing
lunar peak
first time winning against hades
grave compass
first time winning against hades
Congratulations!
Every time I pick the Zagreus sword it never becomes an attacking build.
Pomegranates wouldn't behave and never allowed me to pick lightning strike, but otherwise this build was pretty pwnage
warm notch
there my unmodded 50 clear
warm notch
crust thrust gaming
primal crown
Zag sword
crisp ginkgo
Based
summer ore
Kind of a cheap win with charge shot but a win nonetheless
summer ore
<3
supple juniper
I donāt think Iāve ever been this close to dying in a run before, makes sense as it was my highest heat run yet, I had no faith in this run as I was down to one Death Defiance going into Styx and hadnāt gotten hunting blades or Athenaās legendary. But I got them both on Styx. Even so I was one or two hits away from death there.
grave compass
Nothing special about this one, just combo, apply the two curse debuff, and crit shoryu
rain ruin
Mistral dash carry
ebon berry
Killing freeze
chilly silo
This flurry Hera with the additional Snow burst boon was funā¦
Tho originally tried TD3, timed out in Tart, so switched to TD2 and JSā¦finished in less than 20 mins š
primal crown
cf2 
winged shoal
ooh flurry hera with the hermes legendary would be fun wouldnt it
ebon berry
HL0 comfort
viral elm
bp2 and lc4 though <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
theres nothing you can take for 32 hera thats better than BP2 unless you want to EM4 or something
and lc4 is just a given for 32 heat pretty much
viral elm
theres nothing you can take for 32 hera thats better than BP2 unless you want to...
especially since that run is TD2 rather than 3
winged shoal
im not knocking it lol
im asserting that the annoyingness added by bp2 is almost on par with hl5
ebon berry
BP2 AND HL5 
viral elm
BP2 AND HL5 <a:monkaEXT:585816746175496192>
40+ moment
grave compass
Lots of damage ticks but Demeter boons were all over the place. I got arctic blast right after flourish, but I only got the decay at the last chamber.
minor marsh
the aspect of lucifer is like a laser gun
chilly silo
I love playing it with Poseidon as a super soaker water gun
Especially with Seastorm
viral elm
i guess hestia just isnt my style
primal crown
bestia
violet bloom
nice
ebon berry
nice one lol
heady portal
hey friends this is a reminder to please heed this channel's guidelines and move discussion to the appropriate channels, thanks! (in reference to earlier discussion)
rain ruin
rain ruin
Probably my favorite build in the game
rain ruin
zinc lintel
Shackle gaming
rain ruin
Shackle gaming
Forced into Attack Dash Splitting on the Purging well
Gotta deal with it
ebon berry
Pain
zinc lintel
Nah thatās gaming
cloud pumice
random run to try out 32 heat with melee ā losing 2 DDs in elysium because of TD ā rerolling thrice to buy one DD back ā ares special makes demeter aspect completely useless ā no ant charges left for hades ā somehow finished with 7 seconds left ā
violet bloom
not even close
violet bloom
possibly
violet bloom
zag shield comfy
zinc lintel
Thatās one big call
ebon berry
Zag the shield 
scarlet gyro
first time beating EM4 Hades! never actually accomplished that on PC but I got it done on PS4, without Batty to boot because I don't have that unlocked for Hades yet lol
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1216798375 here's the fight. very happy about that win š
summer ore
Fun run
rugged radish
random oriole
would High Confidence be faster
viral elm
non hellmode would be faster
random oriole
~~non hellmode would be faster~~
well that ship's sailed lol
viral elm
well that ship's sailed lol
honestly though, if you are trying for fast times its really going to help you to get a maxed non hellmode save
hellmode pacts will waste quite a bit of time
random oriole
I already have a maxed hellmode save
viral elm
the only zag rail build
lunar peak
my fastest run yet
rain ruin
my fastest run yet<:dusa:522248771409543188>
Nice, might not wanna have 2 hangover core boons at the same because theyāll knock each other out so your Special is basically nerfing the call lol, a % Special would be more suitable but great time nonetheless
grave compass
Is this meme beam yet?
grave compass
first time beating EM4 Hades! never actually accomplished that on PC but I got i...
Congratulations!!
viral elm
zoos is a cast aspect now
ebon berry
š« 
viral elm
all the boons.... except sea storm which mattered the most on this
viral elm
possibly the greatest thunder dash has ever been outside of gilgadash runs
rare greatest reflex and all the useful zoos secondaries + splitting bolt
grave compass
As soon as I saw Triple Bomb in the first chamber I knew it was over. I used the super(?) soaker to shove people into constantly pulsing damage upgraded (chaos) bombs that pulse hangover, letting me use Bad Influence to continuously wall hit them. Shoutout to Dionysus for the early Exclusive Access.
ebon berry
ebon berry
Its sad without seastorm
viral elm
seastorm turns memes into good builds
grave compass
PHEW. I also got ignited ichor, epic greater haste, and hyper sprint. Insert Jeremy Clarkson Ariel Atom GIF. the speed! the noise of the speed!
Yo I wanted sea storm and breaking wave. RNG just wasn't nice in that aspect.
That was the first time I'd ever done super soaker and I got pretty much perfect RNG there.
ionic nest
that boon screen is going wide
viral elm
how so many boons without authority
winged shoal
foresight and a healthy amount of luck
zinc lintel
Trials help too
hollow jacinth
And loyalty card and chaos +gold
grave compass
that boon screen is going wide
thicc boons
ebon berry
š³
lunar peak
Quick question how do you get does themes for the victory banner
hollow jacinth
hollow jacinth
Quick question how do you get does themes for the victory banner
Buy them from the house contractor
lunar peak
Buy them from the house contractor
They dont appear for me
lunar peak
K
violet bloom
bruh
zinc lintel
You need to kill him 8 more times for a total of 10
violet bloom
i got more poseidon than zeus, fated authority is cursed
graceful axle
There should be a channel for Failure Belittling or something because oh boy do I have some garbage runs/builds lmao
random oriole
Someone pitched #hades-fail-complaining a while back
though high heat strats sometimes runs those
neat shadow
Gotta love Chiron builds
ebon berry
120% first pom 
violet bloom
28 min left on the clock š
ebon berry
light tundra
well
thanks for the help, everybody!
build wasn't great, I wanted to go for Zeus/Poseidon Storm Sea, but it wasn't in the cards
got some useless Aphrodite boons, sadly
warm notch
when zeus visits once and then decides to avoid you for the rest of your run moment
primal crown
gaming
winged shoal
life affirmation isnt useless
ebon berry
karmic prawn
Real fun run.
Boonless Extreme Measure 4 Tight Deadline 5min, cleared in 14 and change.
grave compass
thanks for the help, everybody!
Congrats!
Long knuckle to set up dashing shoryu. Was fun but I was playing poo. My decision making with fists is really bad, doesn't bode well for my newly purchased boxing gym membership.
grave compass
When point blank shot isn't enough close range dmg. I had triple shot before i took the anvil and got the blast wave and twin shot. Could be a contender for strongest melee attack in the game with 1200 for a backstab triple explosion with embedded cast and +40% damage from dual curses. holy nuts.
warm notch
when funny splitting bolt tart but then asterius and vermin + 3 sack
well you wont take damage if you grab it fast enough
light tundra
ah.
random oriole
could've probably done 40 
warm notch
gaming
warm notch
won with 1 HP left rofl
also id recommend dark foresight over olympian favor*
light tundra
ok will do
viral elm
unmodded moment
light tundra
what weapons should I try to unlock with 4 Titan Bloods
crisp ginkgo
Someone pitched #hades-fail-complaining a while back
i'm for this
heady portal
a channel specific to funneling bad luck posts and negative emotions is unlikely to happen. lift others here instead
viral elm
eh
rain ruin
Rip second hammer, getting there tho
viral elm
good build bad rooms
light tundra
Man how are you guys so good, Iām still trying to learn all the weapons and builds
viral elm
ive played the game a fair bit
rain ruin
He just a gamer
ebon berry
violet bloom
rip current carry
pretty sure rip current still has a 100% win rate on my save
just too good
ebon berry
More zag shield
viral elm
sea storm pog, elysium not pog
also little rats in 3 rooms out of the like 7-8 possible on 2 sack
zadge
primal crown
Ri2 32 heat
ebon berry
violet bloom
who needs an attack boon
hollow jacinth
All that additive damage and no crit attack š¦
random oriole
tried to do last year's monthly challenge, failed, and almost did another one instead lol
rain ruin
pog special speed
random oriole
stonks
gusty flame
that's what i call a good combo
ebon berry
rain ruin
Dash nova this is some serious gaming
vivid plume
https://imgur.com/oFBOQaq
im soo rusty : (
https://imgur.com/BUQZPCk
grave compass
Welp the build just ended up happening this way. I still spammed special to apply doom and dash strike to apply marked and blackout. Impending doom critical hits are filthy, likewise with festive fog critical hits.
light tundra
not great, mainly I just abused Athena Aid and then dash-striked around the guy
light tundra
I finally got to do the Sea Storm Build
steel sleet
sub 13 
my first run in awhile i am rly excited to get a pb with it
brave fulcrum
echo belfry
Hell Mode First Clear down without Duo Boon! š
lime bane
Hell Mode First Clear down without Duo Boon! š
Slow and steady.
echo belfry
Elysium is prolly the main reason
took a lot of time to wait for sword/spear/charriot to pause
lime bane
Yeah, no need to be in a rush, just gotta get the win.
grave compass
bUrSt dAmAgE
primal crown
Flurry cursed nice
light basin
aww what a sad reunion
light basin
Flurry cursed nice
yeah was op
and the heals too
just smacking the final boss with my call was fun
grave compass
FIRST OF MANY. THE PAIN I HAD TO GO THROUGH
Congratulations š
All those damage ticks meant quick calls.
warm notch
budget eris moment
viral elm
All those damage ticks meant quick calls.
5 poms on zoos attack 0 poms on dash
warm notch
pom blossom gaming
grave compass
Is that a good thing? It felt like a good thing
rain ruin
Is that a good thing? It felt like a good thing
0 poms on the dash is not a good thing no, but it worked so
1 pom on zeus attack is enough, a lot of your dmg is from static discharge which you already pommed a lot
viral elm
Is that a good thing? It felt like a good thing
for the "eris build" on rail even if its not eris you want to have a good amount of poms on tidal dash since it scales much better than lightning strike and will end up doing more work for you
warm notch
most of those poms did pretty much nothing
viral elm
like mike said, jolted + dash poms are what you want mostly
warm notch
7 jolted poms still kinda overkill
rain ruin
I mean this run definitely has a ton more poms than a normal run but you could've spread them out more evenly, dash really wants poms
Anyway #h1-builds-and-combat more suitable
viral elm
such a gamer
primal crown
Gaming
rain ruin
Stygian phalanx
ebon berry
light tundra
Cray
grave compass
The best defense is a good deflecc
viral elm
i found the easiest pact for 8 heat
finished within TD3 as well even though zoos abandoned me before giving me jolted
ebon berry
rain ruin
very pog
zinc lintel
i found the easiest pact for 8 heat
How big was the drank tho
winged shoal
tried going for MEus but didnt even get it until the a styx chamber :' at least dio was generous
viral elm
How big was the drank tho
think it was 4 fountains so 16%
idk why i did sea storm chaos
it was pretty bad lol
zinc lintel
think it was 4 fountains so 16%
Solid drank
Pos special kinda good tho
Pretty high percent
viral elm
pretty high percent on an attack that has base 15 damage
rain ruin
viral elm
hotw pog
viral elm
playing gilgadash is unironically way easier and way more fun than playing actual gilgamesh
though that might just be the epic greatest reflex talking
viral elm
just do EM4
ebon berry
crisp ginkgo
guys my brother just beat 36 heat (he thought it was 36 not 32 from the special) and i am so proud of him lol
ebon berry
primal crown
talos gaming
rain ruin
what a gamer
crisp ginkgo
Your brother is based for using Talos tho
this
rain ruin
Sword heat pb
rain ruin
No it was pure skill
ebon berry
2nd sword hammer on AP is brave
rain ruin
It was vs Ares Aphro trial but I just instinctively denied the trial
lunar peak
grave compass
Shoutout to UnAnanas, Dazed, and MiKE for schooling me in the ways of social distancing boons.
grave compass
Phalanx flare is difficult to time in order to parry. Got hit a lot trying it.
quasi kestrel
Wouldnt suggest parrying unless its projectiles and you have distance
Just slam those casts and focus on dashes instead
Like you can totally parry Hades' bloodstones. But just using it as much as you can will end the fight faster and get you deflects
warm notch
well this was cursed
only free room was a single fountain chamber
no survival/than or story rooms and the two chaos I found were at midshop
also ddash in styx
and common doom without impending
long gale
may not be a victory screen but im already hype
how do I get image perms for other channels
long gale
awesome
light tundra
wtf is this
steel sleet
fun
steel sleet
wtf is this
it's a gift from Lord Poseidon :') you get it the first time like that and after that have to meet prereq boons to find it again. serves to introduce you to fishing here
light tundra
Heh