cuz Than AI ain't exactly the best sometimes
#h1-victory-boasting
primal crown
indigo holly
fishing also pauses igt but you have to walk to the spot which can be time loss if it's on the other side of the tileset
limpid mountain
slowly improving
bold jolt
gaming
strong ravine
šæ
limpid mountain
you got your first sub 16 way before me <:kekw:679152556970344448>
idk how fast my pace is compared to the average playerbase but i feel like im somewhat fast
progress-wise
quiet lark
you got your first sub 16 way before me <:kekw:679152556970344448>
i have yet to get a sub 15
and im like 50-100 clears
indigo holly
have you considered walking faster
indigo holly
my hundreth clear was my first sub 12
strong ravine
my first half decent run was here #h1-victory-boasting message
indigo holly
wtf +200% dash strike with no core boon???
quiet lark
one day i will actually try to get a sub 15
strong ravine
my first fast run was here #h1-victory-boasting message
quiet lark
but for now i will derust with heat 32
indigo holly
my first fast run was here https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/72502...
is this the same one as the one on src?
i notice times are the same
bold jolt
wtf +200% dash strike with no core boon???
some aspects just end up taking shackle after tartarus if you dont get a good attack boon lmao
mainly the ones that dont start with the attack, like hestia, nemesis, rama
indigo holly
the clockets is really just the icing on the cake lmao
bold jolt
rama generally doesnt take shackle into aspho since you kinda ideally have twin shot but otherwise you can take shackle if you want
strong ravine
on nem shackle starts to suck ass after a while and u need other stuff
indigo holly
wait nem starts splash?
bold jolt
shackle nem lowkey kinda just splash nem except you start shackle and you pray to rng for early tdash
boreal summit
Isn't shack mainly just the basis for a Chaos build though?
bold jolt
chaos aspect? or chaos boons
quiet lark
shackle for speed is just a placeholder
bold jolt
because neither for both lmao
boreal summit
boons
quiet lark
for other play, its a meme
bold jolt
you dont build around chaos boons 99% of the time
the 1% is meme beam and trippy builds
quiet lark
you dont build around chaos boons 99% of the time
~~
unless its eclipse~~
boreal summit
Strike is just free damage, and ambush is actually gamebreaking on Arthur and a couple others
bold jolt
well i mean ofc but you cant guarantee seeing chaos in your run
quiet lark
but the main problem is that its a side bonus, not the whole build
indigo holly
problem is that you can't force chaos to appear so there's no such thing as a chaos run
bold jolt
when you see chaos ofc you 're gonna want to get what benefits your aspect
nothing guarantees seeing chaos so you can't have a "chaos build"
quiet lark
problem is that you can't force chaos to appear so there's no such thing as a ch...
chaos aspect
indigo holly
outside of maybe like, infernal soul cast builds where you either hit +stones or turbo lose
bold jolt
(stygian not infernal)
boreal summit
Well you wouldn't really build around shackle either if you just get lucky enough with an attack boon
indigo holly
whoops
quiet lark
or a chaos build could be choosing random stuff
bold jolt
Well you wouldn't really build around shackle either if you just get lucky enoug...
and sometimes you just dont see an attack boon, but at least the remedy for that is just shackle
quiet lark
not a real aspect
pre nerf chaos(idk what it was)
boreal summit
Well the drawback to shackle is the flat 150%, chaos is the only way past that so if you don't bet on chaos it would just be outpaced by a normal boon
quiet lark
the point of shackle isnt to be used the whole time, just as a placeholder
bold jolt
the only "normal boon" that can outpace the 100% from shackle is rare/epic aphrodite attack or epic athena/demeter
indigo holly
150% is better than like most 1-2 pom epic strikes
quiet lark
shackle for speed is just a placeholder
e
indigo holly
shackle angle on % strike builds is not something i've considered but i'll look into it
bold jolt
and considering that's a pool of 4 boons (3 of which needs a good amount of poms to pass), shackle is just straight up better
quiet lark
the only "normal boon" that can outpace the 100% from shackle is rare/epic aphro...
heroic pos with 2387498327489273948723 poms
bold jolt
pain and suffering
indigo holly
just imagine if that 250% dash strike build got arte though
crits would 1 shot hades through immune bubbles
bold jolt
sounds about right
that's what arty clockets are for lmao
arty clockets with purple rd kinda strong
bold jolt
shackle talk made me want to do shackle nem and got a sub8
previous pb was 8:00.36 lmao
golden peak
ā¹ļø
meager grail
hard solar
And in Elysium too, nice job.
tall briar
quiet lark
epic me run
ocean pollen
shackle talk made me want to do shackle nem and got a sub8
how many levels of the resource manager do you have to go through to look like THAT
heavy solar
how many levels of the resource manager do you have to go through to look like *...
Resource manager doesnāt give you backgrounds
indigo holly
if you're talking about the endplate is 25000 darkness
heavy solar
But that SS does have the 50th and final title
bold jolt
If you're talking about "unseen one" I'm using a max save with hundreds of thousands of darkness modded in lmao
quiet lark
if you're talking about the endplate is 25000 darkness
pretty sure its 23.5k
nvm its 25
quiet lark
ocean pollen
so all that and i can look like chaos?
quiet lark
just reset your mirror, and then you can do ri4 for free
golden peak
you can get it in a morning if you try i guess
heavy solar
https://clipchamp.com/watch/mkwKkn1EVgw
Selling mirror for chaos is 
quiet lark
WORTH IT
indigo holly
based af 
heavy solar
nuh uh
ocean pollen
So all you have to do is have 25,000 darkness at once?
quiet lark
im now missing:
stygian
all but the first level of persuasion
legacy
heavy solar
So all you have to do is have 25,000 darkness at once?
You need every other work order to unlock themes iirc
ocean pollen
Including the music?
indigo holly
work order is the leftmost column
ocean pollen
Oh thats not so bad then
kind peak
Zeus 62 Heat
dense wadi
Dang, amazing job!
quiet lark
flurry cast and aph call
ap2 ri1 uc really does stuff huh
indigo holly
does ap2 slash purging options?
pallid sundial
I don't think so
golden peak
no only boon and pom menus
pallid sundial
but since you don't have many boons, you're likelier to lose an important one. Kinda.
primal crown
no only boon and pom menus
And you know, hammers
golden peak
hammer is a boon if think hard enough about it š¤
brisk flume
I love when I have 5 dashes
indigo holly
dc2 vs gilga sounds like a nightmare
brisk flume
Itās not that difficult after a while, during bosses I normally use my cast first thing to get rid of it
heavy solar
I love when I have 5 dashes
DC2 at 12 heat
timid saddle
pale pagoda
my first ever escape :DD
brisk flume
heavy solar
indigo holly
Zagsword first clear
brisk flume
I love when I have 5 dashes
Decided to test my luck and man, am I shaking rn
indigo holly
Goodness please swap the last 3 mirror talents
brisk flume
Whats wrong with my mirror talents?š
indigo holly
Dark foresight is really ppwerful
More epics at hermes and chaos are better than likelier duos usually
Room rerolls are kind meh since its easy to force what gods you need in front of you but boons are far more random
brisk flume
Iāll look into those my next run then
heavy solar
Whats wrong with my mirror talents?š
Itās a bit of an exaggerated response but their equivalents are almost universally superior
golden peak
@wooden charm on his way for 40 heat 10th clear smh
strong ravine
all thanks to you
when are we seeing the sub6 40 heat
golden peak
considering only hades is a problem i think js3 is doable
strong ravine
when beo
golden peak
eris and achilles are literally the only aspects unlocked
strong ravine
get beo then
golden peak
beo would be a spoiler
strong ravine
they should get it
strong ravine
get mod
golden peak
š
wooden charm
mod? 
@golden peak
wooden charm
never waiting for reload seems golden
wooden charm
i wouldnt get it so early
š
golden peak
u havent even gotten half the boons yet lmfao
strong ravine
make game playable
golden peak
lol
golden peak
codex
pallid sundial
what was the last part of the codex you needed ?
ember heart
Get dynoād
worn eagle
my first ever escape :DD
ruthless reflex sword, BASED 
lavish kestrel
sterile falcon
almost -14 oof
pallid sundial
GG !
very respectable for no mirage shot and not full mirror
oh, do you dark foresight instead of the rare boon talent though
primal crown
Also feather duster
sterile falcon
oh, do you dark foresight instead of the rare boon talent though
don't know much boons only by the name
since i play ptbr lol
primal crown
Is the mirror talent
Swap the purple between the 2 yellows
limpid mountain
what is the usual "best" mirror perks ?
i have a few towards the end that are in green but i dont think i got the best list
indigo holly
there should be a pin in some channel (probably new players?)
limpid mountain
yeah i just saw it
ill look more in detail when i get home
entire day off tomorrow to grind hades a bit
indigo holly
generally fiery/shadow to taste (depending on if your weapon can backstab/needs breakpoints), purple all the way down, high confidence if you're speedrunning otherwise the purple options, then family favorites, dark foresight, god's pride, fated persuasion (green one) at the very end
pallid sundial
pride/legacy can also depends on preference and build
though pride is usually better yeah
heavy solar
there should be a pin in *some* channel (probably new players?)
High heat actually
snow hull
worn eagle
https://imgur.com/4iAMuRo
Disagree with the shadow presence comment as far as anyheat is concerned, and high heat while not using damage control. Not just for the three aspects mentioned there.
It's probably easier to list the aspects I prefer shadow on instead:
All of achilles except maybe for LP achilles on high heat, which may just work better with fiery
ME builds, since doom is the third thing that hits, not the first. And even then, being able to 1-shot everything in tartarus thanks to fiery can be faster than the extra backstab.
The rails other than Hestia
heavy solar
Disagree with the shadow presence comment as far as anyheat is concerned, and hi...
Ngl I didnāt realise it recommended shadow presence
I also think fiery is better
pallid sundial
bruh that's a great build what are you talking about
only issue is pom
otherwise what would you want ??
indigo holly
it felt really awful to play for whatever reason
whoever told me to turn off attack at cursor is not cooking imo
pallid sundial
"yo rate my Hestia build"
indigo holly
hestia players only know reload and fire smh
oh god ok do not play mkb attack at cursor off bow
this is even worse
snow hull
wow i didn't even know attack at cursor off was a thing
i'm going to try keyboard only controls lol
willow bronze
Eventually you get a feel for where you need to be to switch targets
Rail is unplayable for me without aim assist
bold jolt
i'm going to try keyboard only controls lol
have fun aiming that special lmao
indigo holly
the speedpack is turbocheating what the hell???
literally just turned it on and got sub 10
bold jolt
well like
the only thing the modpack did for you wash cshot and 2 sack lmao
and fountain indicator
the 2 braids, epic shot, mirage, and dad call is all you lmao
this wasn't necessarily a speedpack diff it's just good rng
primal crown
It was the pride gaming
ivory sky
gray marsh
primal crown
Wait I didn't remember drunken strike spanish name being that
gray marsh
Wait I didn't remember drunken strike spanish name being that
looks like here its called bacterial attack
indigo holly
that looks like an awful localization
gray marsh
that looks like an awful localization
yeah idk hoes does bacteria relate with wine
heavy solar
yeah idk hoes does bacteria relate with wine
What does bacteria have to do at all with being drunk
quiet lark
alcoholic fermentationš§
quiet lark
epic td3 time and me(i will never achieve it)
indigo holly
it's really not that difficult
quiet lark
my heat 45 run barely made td2
willow bronze
the speedpack is turbocheating what the hell???
Hmm tempting
fathom ember
that looks like an awful localization
FR localization is pretty good but there are a few language mistakes, not many though, and it really triggers me (first cause I've always been like this haha, second cause I've done some gaming localization for a couple of games)
limpid mountain
FR localization is pretty good but there are a few language mistakes, not many t...
oui oui baguette moment (im also french)
canadian french to be precise
fathom ember
canadian french to be precise
Not French then :p But we have the same ancestors so we are brothers :p
golden peak
when the no rolls
bold jolt
Cursed poms
brisk flume
I switched my last three mirrors
indigo holly
looks solid
quiet lark
gaming
limpid mountain
hit 1400 crits lmfao
first sub 14
couldve been much better, dad fight was awful, impervious foes
limpid mountain
got it late, and i didnt really see the point of pomming tdash that late when hermes didnt bless me with +2 dashes
bold jolt
tdash is still good without hermes dashes lmao
it's still great damage as long as you put poms into it
it just gets stronger with the right hermes boons, as with every boon
golden peak
a fun run
primal crown
Just the essentials 
golden peak
when u get the bons but have no clue howto arthur
bold jolt
but consider this
they were free
i think most people who run plume zag sword reset on common rd but i could be wrong on that lmao
golden peak
not even sub9]
bold jolt
i mean no tdash poms and common rd on a stinky aspect lmao
limpid mountain
pain and suffering
how do you get each segments at the end of a run
golden peak
mod
terse terrace
free ichor tho
What is ichor?
golden peak
well item for speed
ember heart
Speed
worn eagle
those really are some croven binds, huh
terse terrace
0 Muscle memory
terse terrace
but turning off attack at cursor improves the aim assist loads
It must be painful, how many try did it take?
snow hull
well i tried achilles at 20 heat
but my second attempt with chiron was successful
it's more frustrating than difficult actually
golden peak
Sounds like chiron
snow hull
chiron was helpful because i could hit even if i aimed backwards lol
it's mainly just that you can't retreat and attack at the same time
snow hull
heat record!!!!
i was struggling so hard but first try with lucifer
i got potted twice by dad- sure footing is a must take
golden peak
pace was dead but have you seen red quick favor
golden peak
heat record!!!!
based lucifer
snow hull
wow that's like 40% of a smouldering air
granite python
finally, a win again. was pretty quick (for me) too, without even trying
primal crown
Big doom, sad rd
golden peak
hermes is a troll, with the other boons and rooms should be sub8
granite python
Big doom, sad rd
rd = rush delivery?
primal crown
Yeah
granite python
can't have everything, i guess. would it have made a difference, anyway? doom was doing all the work
primal crown
Hyper sprint with common rd is a 50% boost to doom
granite python
oh
oooh
primal crown
Epic rd would've been a 100% boost with sprint
And it goes even beyond with ichors (mov speed is multiplicative)
snow hull
hermes is a troll, with the other boons and rooms should be sub8
Hades special build??
Never seen that before
snow hull
I didn't even know you could get charged launcher
golden peak
you are probably using achilles
golden peak
its the best combo you should try it
snow hull
What about zagspecy
golden peak
odds of getting is pretty low especially unmodded though
limpid mountain
bow pb but my build felt somewhat weak
i guess flurry shot is makes it tougher to load casts
limpid mountain
Also use pride instead of legacy
im terrible with names, whats that already ?
oh the mirror thing
yeah i shouldve
pallid sundial
i guess flurry shot is makes it tougher to load casts
Oh, I had that issue, then I realized I don't need to full cast all the time. Even on bosses you can just mash cast and strike and let them go as they please
limpid mountain
Oh, I had that issue, then I realized I don't need to full cast all the time. Ev...
yeah i tried that in styx it helped a bit but i think what hurt me the most is that sometimes i dont notice where my casts end up if i miss them so i need to run around until i find them
pallid sundial
Oh
Yeah
50% of Hera gameplay is good spatial recognition of where your stones are
limpid mountain
yeah
its going better now, i got twin shot
my stones dont go as far
and i think i just got a sub 2 aspho without fo2
or barely above 2
PBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
first respectable time
primal crown
Gg
indigo holly
where is my mirage shot sgg
bold jolt
with the purple shot and rd
purple wave pounding and shot kinda mirage
2 braids also kinda mirage
hollow jacinth
pallid sundial
Finally got my sub 10 GY
I assume breaching skewer is the best second hammer ? It doesn't seem like any would have much impact
Also finished with 2 HP 0 DD 
pallid sundial
also also got the archers in dad P1.2 and invuln stones in P1.3
pallid sundial
totally fair
snow hull
i gave them to cerberus
pallid sundial
based
indigo holly
jeez 1:26 tart
indigo holly
considering i a lot of 2:20 tarts i'm going to need more than just some rng
need to get good
strong ravine
you develop mechanics over time
after a certain point it doesnt really take any effort to get a sub6
indigo holly
guess i just gotta grind
strong ravine
get a vod review for beo
heavy solar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/1197672555872522300/...
How close is 13s alecto to like as fast as possible?
heavy solar
It always feels like longer
bold jolt
it is longer
primal crown
sad run
primal crown
eh
burnt ember
you really can't make up this kind of luck (definitely didn't use 4 dd's this run)
indigo holly
think it would've been luckier if you hit zeus special instead of sea storm
that looks like a major pita to try and control
wooden charm
heat 32 first try
strong ravine
heat 32 first try <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
50 heat next clear trust
do ri2 ap2
golden peak
Wtf
wooden charm
granite python
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/1197672555872522300/...
is it in any way possible to see the segment times like this unmodded?
terse terrace
is it in any way possible to see the segment times like this unmodded?<:zagpls:1...
nope
terse terrace
you really can't make up this kind of luck ~~(definitely didn't use 4 dd's this ...
Is Pos special on Aspect of Zeus bad without sea storm?
golden peak
maybe if i didnt get dash as the 450 boon in styx shop
i couldve sub8
but rd scintilating feast splitting is fun
bold jolt
i forgot to roll the well before styx but at least it was a good lernie fight lmao
golden peak
thats a funny looking rush delivery
bold jolt
sure is buddy
my only scaling was lvl 2 epic wave pounding
which is just braid at home
damn that wasn't my fastest lernie time
bold jolt
the only good aspects for speed within those 2 weapons are beo and hera lmao
rama is a bit sus
golden peak
rama sucsk
golden peak
ofc
bold jolt
considering speed starts with thunder flourish you're already halfway there
strong ravine
the only good aspects for speed within those 2 weapons are beo and hera lmao
hera is good at speed?
bold jolt
only if you're croven
strong ravine
like hera
golden peak
Like nemesis
sterile falcon
yay
pallid sundial
to nobody's surprise, this wasn't hard
Very happy about my hero split, even if "instaphase heroes with spaghetti shield" is not particularly remarkable
And charon was very kind this run
golden peak
aspect of charon
limpid mountain
does charged shot work as I think it works on beo ? basically turns it into hera bow ?
golden peak
yes with aoe
limpid mountain
alright so thats likely to be the best hammer then right ?
golden peak
yea
sterile falcon
how many hours did it take you ?
about 72 hours, could be better if i knew some of the achievements early on
limpid mountain
alright, im definetely going a bit slower then you on that, i got about 35 hours and 20ish achievements
golden peak
i took about 1k hours
limpid mountain
grave vector
I played a lot in early access so I got a ton of achievements retroactively when they were added. So technically, you could say I got them all in two days 
sterile falcon
I played a lot in early access so I got a ton of achievements retroactively when...
i got my 72 hours in like 10 days or something lol
golden peak
this aspect is fun to run but annoying to aim
golden peak
i have an even more cursed run comingright up š§
pallid sundial
No hammer in tart, no boons, no heart rend, dio aid at like ely, C11 and C12 being unarmored numskulls (or similar late chambers, but I think it was really back to back), forced coin room while I had the curse of chaos, no hermes in aspho, second hammer at the end of ely, second hermes in styx, stopping me from taking an artemis boon, miniboss rooms in styx being heart and coins while the shop had only poms and heart when I needed boons sooo much
The game HATES me. And rn it's reciprocated.
indigo holly
chiron gameplay moment 
primal crown
Anvil
golden peak
anvil
primal crown
truly the hammers of all time
Amazing well but wrong weapon
limpid mountain
such good hammers too
pallid sundial
chiron gameplay moment <:OMEGALUL:614889451096637499>
that's not even chiron at this point
chiron has no AOE damage, but it doesn't influence hammers and hermes being one whole biome late
golden peak
start tdash
pallid sundial
yeah
prolly the right call
but again : that was not the issue
Oh, I also had zag saying "must be the last of this lot" on 2nd/3rd wave, then another wave spawns ???
golden peak
yeah bad runs happen
primal crown
3rd wave is max amounts so is prob just the dreaded spawn one by one
golden peak
š
grave vector
I hate to say itā¦. But bplease move to #h1-builds-and-combat
indigo holly
32 heat beo modded is so free???
bold jolt
tbf beo modded is just free
golden peak
So 40
bold jolt
also considering you got epic rd and an ichor, most builds would be free lmao
golden peak
Do*
indigo holly
yeah just a little bit of rng manipulation
bold jolt
this build would've cleared 45 easy
indigo holly
i'm trying 32 all weapons
golden peak
this build would've cleared 45 easy
This build obviously clears upto like 55 lol
bold jolt
i mean the bigger issue is ap levels at that point lol
bold jolt
Fair the build would clear 60 easy
willow bronze
First sub 10!
primal crown
gaming
quiet lark
(get pinged and i got dyno'd)
indigo holly
my splits are so bad but it doesn't matter because my build is just turbo
3 min tart 17s heroes 
burnt ember
I like pos special on Zeus aspect without sea storm, but to make that work you have to have a LOT of support (razor shoals, hydraulic, Chaos boons for special, poms, RD, and/or Pos lego) and explosive return is basically a requirement
burnt ember
Oh no clockets well dang it that whole run was a loss š
indigo holly
3/6
bold jolt
Gaming build
indigo holly
i'm surprised at nemesis's output tbh
bold jolt
Heart rend kinda good
Also dedge and arty attack means a pretty high crit chance
And tdash good
azure stream
rama bow go brrr
primal crown
special only rama is unarguably the only way to-
wooden charm
heat 36
im happy that i didnt pop my acron in hades fight
@golden peak stubborn defiance š
strong ravine
this game sucks
golden peak
<@828865026420899841> stubborn defiance š
nice
worn eagle
pallid sundial
letsgo
quiet lark
damn ap and cf
you really hate cp js and em4 huh
bold jolt
Wdym that's like the standard 40 pact
quiet lark
bold jolt
Ap1 cf1/js1 at 40 is what I take
quiet lark
(i take cp2 js3 cf2 em4 and sometimes dc2)
all to avoid hs ap and td3
i need to practice speedrunning sometime
bold jolt
That's an avoiding td3 problem lmao
snow hull
i wouldn't use ap if it was particularly boon dependent, normally i use cf2 js1
or dc if appropriate ofc
pallid sundial
(i take cp2 js3 cf2 em4 and sometimes dc2)
bruh if you can get TD2 times with CP2 JS3 you 200% can get TD3 times without it wth
That's like going "noooo I'm scared of trying to finish a 100m sprint in less than 25 seconds, I'll just keep on doing a 500m in 1 minute"
anywho
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT ASPHODEL
Even I couldn't skill issue such a good run
The game is really throwing me a bone here. They saw my previous run with 3 minutes tartarus (without boss) and decided I needed an easy time
golden peak
vroom
blazing coyote
quiet lark
its just 2 basket balls, a sneak, whatever the cast change is, more spins, a FIFTY DAMAGE ATTACK, social distancing, and clifford
golden peak
secret cerby skip by petting mid rush
languid lantern
destroyed em4 lol. smoldering air is sooo good
of course, having 375 max hp helps too
quiet lark
aspect of smair gaming
languid lantern
smair nutty
gotta be my favorite duo boon, along with the critical reflection one i forget the name of
deadly reversal. that's it
heavy solar
@quiet lark I didnāt see arctic blast once
quiet lark
excuses smh
azure stream
first sword em4 win
primal crown
Rod gaming
golden peak
time to do the same but get atleast 1 more skip in elysium
thick flame
ignited ichor gaming
bold jolt
Aspect of tdash fr
golden peak
500 dmg per dash is good apparently
golden peak
i had like 5 gold and wanted money for a well or smth
and it paid off bc 1st tunnel 2nd chamber had an ichor
golden peak
i wonder if i wouldve earned that anyway
bold jolt
Tbf Styx tends to have a lot of gold pots I think
I think that's like 60 bucks worth of ichors and jerky
So probably if you only got those lmao
But fair take, gamble paid off
golden peak
i had boiling point so i dont want to take acorn
so what else
wait does boiling point work with acorn
bold jolt
Absolutely no clue
brisk flume
The stress of walking into Hadesā battle with zero death defiances
heavy solar
The stress of walking into Hadesā battle with zero death defiances
couldnāt be me (I use stubborn defiance)
limpid mountain
prophecy useless hammers + plume achievement build turned into rd build lol
definetely optimal build
heavy solar
Nice lightning phalanx pos build
limpid mountain
~~Nice lightning phalanx pos build~~
i had it offered to me but i left it to someone else
stark dragon
Two Igneous Eden runs of varying silliness
golden peak
glad i didnt reset for rd
terse terrace
glad i didnt reset for rd
Whats rd?
stark dragon
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
pearl rain
STRONGE BUILD
stark dragon
Ooooo
I usually build special with rama
wonder if support fire crit build is worth...
primal crown
just play rail if you are gonna use support fire
pearl rain
wonder if support fire crit build is worth...
I like that build its really heavy damage
you can wipe out hades health in 1 perfect shoot
stark dragon
Special Rama is nutty
strong ravine
is it though
stark dragon
you just stack lightning so fast
pearl rain
Special Rama is nutty
I will try it later cause I just fully maxed it
pallid sundial
Kid named rail, fists
strong ravine
its only 1 bolt per special because of the cooldown
stark dragon
Didn't feel like that
pallid sundial
I think it's two. Still, not great.
stark dragon
it absolutely melted hades' bar tho
golden peak
try eris
golden peak
its only 1 bolt per special because of the cooldown
doesnt double strike ignore the cooldown
or am i imagining things
strong ravine
shouldnāt
search double strike in #high-heat
people always say it only works for aoe
stark dragon
if so that would explain why I was getting many many many many bolts per hit
golden peak
if so that would explain why I was getting many many many many bolts per hit
you would see them but most wont do damage
stark dragon
aw that sucks
strong ravine
yeah they should repair it to make it work better
pallid sundial
(don't look at the lvl6 dio call with 27.5% crit chance)
pallid sundial
what about deadly reversal ?
golden peak
so when i get splitting headache on dio attack
its been a lie
what is real anymore
strong ravine
primal crown
Was that hermes rd in styx
stark dragon
ye
tall briar
a fun run imo, rapid slashes with elec waves equal constant damage
fathom ember
New PB yesterday. Really happy 
heavy solar
New PB yesterday. Really happy <:dusa:522248771409543188>
Holy
gray marsh
fathom ember
Holy <:nectar:730890378563026965>
Stepping up gonna be hard now, took me a whole day of training to beat my 10.19 PB haha
golden peak
A day is actually very fast
fathom ember
A day is actually very fast
I wonder how many speedrunning runs I have now... Probably 60 to 90
My short term goal was sub 10, didnt expect to get it already.
fathom ember
thinking about how many runs ive done
My game says like 160 but I have a ton of resets to unlock stuff and reset speedruns with common spell of agony lol
fathom ember
And you also sub 6 right
strong ravine
sub 5
fathom ember
Ah, I dont play modded :x
strong ravine
i hate unmodded
fathom ember
(Maybe later)
strong ravine
the only time i play unmodded is for a goal
never for fun
its not a fun mode to play
fathom ember
Do you even have fun with no goal?
strong ravine
yeah
i can play modded beo igt and have fun even though theres such a low chance of pb
fathom ember
Im a tryharder, if I dont have a goal, I wont play haha
fathom ember
i can play modded beo igt and have fun even though theres such a low chance of p...
But dont you have the hope every run?
golden peak
Same that's why I set up fake goals as I keep complete them
hot dagger
Comma splice nuuuu
strong ravine
runs die out at that level very quickly
hard resetting for a sub5 is a quick way to burn out
hot dagger
If you need a fun run, you could always just farm darkness
fathom ember
Same that's why I set up fake goals as I keep complete them
That's the advantage of being a new player, I have a ton of real goals haha
golden peak
If you need a fun run, you could always just farm darkness
I think that's the opposite
fathom ember
If you need a fun run, you could always just farm darkness
You know I havent collected enough darkness yet to fully complete my mirror
(I think I'm almost there though, just one thing to finish)
heavy solar
You also havenāt played enough bow to become a bow fanatic so theres a goal 
strong ravine
#h1-discussion before mods yell
fathom ember
You also havenāt played enough bow to become a bow fanatic so theres a goal <:sh...
I have 2 runs with bow. And I probably didnt even pass Asphodel
azure stream
grave vector
thinking about how many runs ive done
i never wiped mine, i think my number of runs atm is 799...
i worked hard for that unseen one badge šŖ š¤
grave vector
i get so tired after one run i need a break before i do another one usually
strong ravine
for me the average run length though is 1 to 3 min
grave vector
but my runs are like 20+ igt so
strong ravine
and a completed run is like 14 16 rta
grave vector
also ive been playing since EA start and people who have been playing way after release have waaaay more runs than me which is pretty nuts
strong ravine
basically all my playtime was in 2023 lol
grave vector
speedrunners and high heat runners yall are rlly something
strong ravine
i got the game 6 days before 2023
and have barely played this jan
did pretty good for a year i guess
strong ravine
yeah
32 and 40 igt
possibly among the fakest categories on the planet
not as fake as their unmodded counterparts but
strong ravine
being a minor diff imo
grave vector
jobless diff
strong ravine
i actually had the best sleep schedule iāve ever had in fall semester 2023
every night 11-7
and decent grades
spring semester was a different story lol
i think hades actually destroyed my spring semester grades
golden peak
golden peak
LOL
golden peak
finally
bold jolt
should've done 50
ruby spade
me omw to beat 64 heat without needing to kill hades
bold jolt
You can't get 64 before the credits
You don't unlock em4 until afterwards
It also isn't considered a valid run since you never get the run complete screen
limpid mountain
minotaur rush is eh
i thought it was strong when i first started but it actually is underwhelming
dense wadi
Itās kind of fun for a joke run with sudden rush or something but definitely not a good hammer
Most shield hammers are duds imo, especially compared to charged shot, explosive return, and sometimes sudden rush
snow hull
Power shot is fairly consistent I found
480 damage without boons, is great
Plus bow range and shield safety
bold jolt
The issue is that if you miss the window because you need to block damage then it's a drop in damage
And you're better off getting better positioning and using iframes and spamming min charge cshots
bold jolt
I mean sure but also since it works for speed it's still just better lmao
It's still really safe too
strong ravine
strong ravine
pallid sundial
why are your victory screen splits all 00:00:00 except the last one ?
also damn, GG. Two sub6 in a row is crazy good
pallid sundial
oh yeah, silly me, she spawned at the dad fight and spent 5:50 to beat him with literally no build
strong ravine
also damn, GG. Two sub6 in a row is crazy good
its pretty easy
just need to get one then another
ive gotten 3 in a row
heavy solar
Swap to zag sword and do it
pallid sundial
its pretty easy
heavy solar
its pretty easy
Can confirm
heavy solar
and every other run you donāt see cshot
pallid sundial
at your skill level, yes
strong ravine
if u grind u can get to about where i am pretty quickly
heavy solar
strong ravine
i was very inefficient
heavy solar
I too can be a very inefficient Beo player if I try harder
granite python
in today's merciful end attempt, i got ares and athena in tartarus, but no me at all
did get epic rush delivery though (thanks to somenoobdying for pointing that one out to me here recently) and did win, so... slowly making progress
limpid mountain
in today's merciful end attempt, i got ares and athena in tartarus, but no me at...
we just got the same run
look at that
i got 4 ares / athena after tart yet no ME
bold jolt
lmao build is barely existing
limpid mountain
i took the anvil in styx to maybe complete prophecy, i was that done with my run
stark dragon
Hunting Blades is quickly becoming one of my favorite builds. Gonna start taking Poseidon aid as soonas I can just for Mirage Shot. all it was missing was ares legendary
quiet lark
Hunting Blades is quickly becoming one of my favorite builds. Gonna start taking...
use acorn, it reduces more damage than tooth
stark dragon
Haven't levelled it all the way
and it hardly matters
because hades dies in like 5 seconds
because I'm spamming beyblades at him
bold jolt
if you wanna do hunting blades, use achilles for a free 150% cast boost
quiet lark
or poseidon for an even more free 50% boost
stark dragon
good points
strong ravine
quiet lark
rip rd
willow bronze
First 32 on blade
modded š
Trying to do 32 on all weapons. Time to do the ones I don't like...
pallid sundial
Good luck ! It's a journey, though it's not too annoying. You just have to be ready to take your time
willow bronze
I'm sure it's not too bad
brisk flume
I did it yāall
heavy solar
This is insane lmao
terse terrace
I did it yāall
Why not Acorn?
brisk flume
Why not Acorn?
Because extra life
brisk flume
This is insane lmao
It took me about 3 or 4 tries
heavy solar
Because extra life
Acorn is more hp save then tooth
brisk flume
True but I also just didnāt trust myself
quiet lark
you have sd with pat touch
there just isnt a very logical way for you to die to styx unless you ABSOLUTELY sucked at a single room and got poisoned and irl blinded
brisk flume
Iām a very paranoid personš
bold jolt
@heavy solar lmao first try
technically speaking i didn't need patty since i have 50% of my hp left on the first SD
just get the boons tbh
rain ruin
bold jolt
If they use the same pact you'd just add lc4 lmao I did lc3
tall briar
was so close to the 1 acheivement (thorn of thanatos, 28% dmg)
bold jolt
now do it without forced overtime but more EM and MM
ngl without fo2 it'd be easier lmao
strong ravine
where are these from though
seems very ancient
unseeded means there was nothing known about the run
seeded is when you find a good seed and give up to keep it
or route it out
while unseeded has deaths before
whats wrong with modded
bold jolt
if your goal is to just do unmodded runs then that's fine, but modded runs are still valid as long as the modpack used is valid
or rather just mods used being valid
golden peak
That looks very outdated
strong ravine
tfw 5th place 45 heat
golden peak
Ah
strong ravine
theres no complete heat leaderboard
bold jolt
as long as the unmodded and modded runs are differentiated somehow then it's fine
strong ravine
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fYeJpxFXZBO2UycHOz4qt90T3ZurFZKCtg07UQNZVyc/edit#gid=1855514336 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-eAhomftrsnM8BV6TMA4CA58wneoBLcAvlQXiYrGAnU/edit#gid=2008010284 these are the two main ones
but not everybody submits everything to them
bold jolt
you're better off asking in the high heat channel in the speedrunning discord pinned in #self-promotion
supple moat
it looks so pretty!
bold jolt
Looks good
There's probably more zeus and rama 60 clears tho that don't fit lmao
Achilles and guan Yu have 60s too
Too many runners not enough space lol
strong ravine
eris has 62 as well
supple moat
Looks awesome
bold jolt
There's also a whole website already for speedruns lmao
timber night
Iām very proud of this tbhā¦
Btw, I had INSANE LUCK with some of the boons plus this build was great from the jump! Also I like the spear a lot, so, no surprise lol. FYI, this was MY 53rd attemptā¦ wowā¦ god Hadeās Phase 2 is UNREALā¦
distant helm
Just beat the game for the first time, woo!
Iām up to when ||Persephone goes back to the underworld|| , havenāt played further
timber night
Yeah, Iāve only interacted with her onceā¦
distant helm
lol
brisk flume
Wanted to try Beowulf out
strong ravine
includes challenge runs i see
golden peak
Congrats on the 33 heat
strong ravine
it was boonless mirrorless
i was trying 50 heat unmodded just to say ive done it earlier
and the auto aim was being so awful i just gave up
bold jolt
I wish there was a way to search for specific things
strong ravine
i think it would be less cluttered if u did like
hiding runs in the same cat from the same runner on the sam easpect
like angel has zeus 64 modded
so zeus 63 modded could be removed or hidden
golden peak
My first 50 was unmodded
still shadow
sadly couldn't pick up artemis / dio duo boon, but god damn, the level 9 dio special hit hard
this is after i've just started a new game after not playing for a couple of years, decided to get a new save up and running, forgot how fun the game was
brisk flume
Just a quickish run before bed
white mesa
29 attempts for my first clear with the sword. have no idea if this was a good build or not lmao
fathom ember
LETS GOOOOO heat 32
heavy solar
sadly couldn't pick up artemis / dio duo boon, but god damn, the level 9 dio spe...
I would not be concerned about splitting headache
Itās not adding much to a dio build
And artemis really just dilutes your duo pool
still shadow
imo it'd add quite a bit of damage, as the only source of crits i had before was pressure points just adding 3%
the crits were doing work
strong ravine
splitting headache sucks
still shadow
artemis can be insane with the right boons
strong ravine
not worth it
heavy solar
You need too much for splitting headache to do anything notable
crits are good, yes, but your chance is so low even after you add in splitting headache
strong ravine
although i guess its chiron so any ideas of a good build are out the window
do what you want
heavy solar
and so you dilute the pool of duo boons you can get by heart rend and splitting headache, when the biggest boon you could possibly get is low tolerance
still shadow
after splitting headache i would be getting a 15% chance instead of 3%, that's a fairly big increase, especially because i had heart rend
strong ravine
mark would be better
heavy solar
With splitting headache, heart rend, and pp
strong ravine
and you arenāt getting many procs of splitting headache anyways
it canāt make hangover crit
heavy solar
With splitting headache, heart rend, and pp
Youāve increased your average damage by 1.525
Low tolerance alone increases your hangover damage by 1.6
3 boons for less effectiveness then 1
2 of those boons actively get in the way of you finding the 1.6 multi
and 2 of those boons donāt matter to your main source of damage if you donāt have pp (hangover canāt crit without it)
and 1 of those boons doesnāt matter to your main source of damage if you donāt have splitting headache (or a far better crit chance boon like hunters mark)
Hmmm
strong ravine
and all of these boons will not help the fact that they are on the aspect of chiron
heavy solar
So personally I would just avoid arte, as much as she can be extra scaling, sheāll usually end up just being a hinderance in your low tolerance search
This goes for all hangover builds btw not just chiron
acoustic mason
accidentally got a new pb
acoustic mason
lvl6 heroic doom > lvl13 epic doom
im actually wondering is lvl 13 epic curse of agony is better or nah
acoustic mason
ooh i see
gray marsh
golden peak
strong ravine
this is cursed
gray marsh
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1087808699722121236/1196185623946600539/l...
what
pallid sundial
rama with dio strike and %dmg on special and not boiling blood and god keepsake at styx
and awful duos
stuck jackal
Hadn't touched the game for 2 weeks, somehow PB'd š„² Letsgooo
gray marsh
beat charon 2 times in a row
brisk flume
Donāt recommend fighting Hades on the bus but it works
heavy solar
Donāt recommend fighting Hades on the bus but it works
Honestly any moving vehicle is
Aside from like a plane
burnt ember
Even planes can be sketch with turbulence
dense wadi
Having played hades on planes before, itās fine as long as you donāt get motion sick
(I get very motion sick)
quiet lark
Honestly any moving vehicle is <:zagpls:1012805274261799032>
the earth is moving