h1-victory-boasting

[timid saddle]

the bai guy

[lunar peak]

Rama my beloved

[pallid sundial]

what's so good about zag shield ?

[lunar peak]

Safe dps with attack speed and bull rush i guess

[indigo holly]

beat the game for the first time

[pallid sundial]

damn, nice build

does ricochet shot make lightning strike procs twice ?

[indigo holly]

i honestly can't tell there are too many particle effects on screen

[lunar peak]

Its not lighting boon so i guess not

Maybe it does, zeus moment

[indigo holly]

that's splitting bolt

i think it did? i noticed i super turbo melted people after i picked up ricochet fire

[lunar peak]

On low heat i can imagine ricochet melts anything without zeus

I wonder if anyones first clear was with melee

[indigo holly]

melee seems at least 2x harder than ranged in this game

[lunar peak]

I agree with this statement

[pallid sundial]

When starting, yeah

[lunar peak]

Rail seems almost melee, only bow struggles with high heat clears, too much enemies for zagreus or chiron to handle

[pallid sundial]

After learning enemy patterns and all that the gap gets muuuch shorter

Also I wouldn't count shield as "melee" because the block solves the main issue of melee

plenty peeps win first with shield

[primal crown]

banger build and mirror

[lunar peak]

Hades with charged shot on shield is too easy

Stand in front and spam

If you build on special ofc

[heavy solar]

Yeah it will

[heavy solar]

Quite a few people

Especially if that melee is shield

[heavy solar]

Ranged weapons function just as well if not better in melee, especially as their better hammers incentivize it

like twin shot and triple shot both reduce your range for significantly better damage output, and clockets, spreadfire zag rail or triple bomb luci do the same

[hollow jacinth]

all i want for xmas is a sub 6

[heavy solar]

Same

[heavy solar]

Or at least it should iirc lightning strike mechanics correctly

[heavy solar]

Same speed as zeus shield for cshot spam, you just trade off zeus special for strike damage

Which is a pretty large tradeoff but still pheasible

[bold jolt]

Cshot kinda good

Good aoe, speed, and damage

[heavy solar]

which also means chaos is kinda also pheasible as discount zag shield but uhhhhhhhhhhhh

no

[bold jolt]

The downside is that cshot is a lot less safe but if you want to make the time, you need cshot
Doable, but a lot harder than Zeus shield. At least it's less boon heavy than zeus

[pallid sundial]

Oh yeah I know cshot is OP, I was just curious why zagshield specifically instead of beo or chaos

Beo increased damage sounds harsh so I can see the downside, but chaos as Discount zagshield doesn't sound so bad

How important is the bonus damage on strikes on a cshot build, y'know? I assumed it wasn't much. Maybe it's more than I thought

[primal crown]

remember that beo attacks are slow

the +10% dmg is nothing

[strong ravine]

its 15% extra base damage every attack+cshot

[pallid sundial]

Oh yeah, not bad

I don't remember beo being too slow on dash strikes. I'm assuming most of your strikes even on RI3 and 4 are dash strikes

[strong ravine]

on non beo they often arent

[pallid sundial]

... Maybe I should finally check up the 64 heat clears videos to know what I'm talking about

[strong ravine]

you’ll see in vods people staying in place and repeating cshots off standing strikes

because its not excruciatingly slow

[hollow jacinth]

+15 so +60%

[strong ravine]

well its not on cshot

so its like

[hollow jacinth]

Oh

Misread

[strong ravine]

25+80 vs 40+80

[pallid sundial]

I like memeing with a full strike zagshield build, with pulverizing and that dash strike hammer. But I have no illusion that it's worse than just grabbing cshot in tart and playing around it lol

Still works well though. Just, not much can compete with cshot

[bold jolt]

Beo increases damage isn't really bad tbh
What's cucking beo is ri3 since you lose casts

[heavy solar]

It isn’t a boost on cshot

[strong ravine]

#h1-victory-boasting message

[heavy solar]

Zag shield specifically over chaos because zag shield is a lot more feasible

It isn’t a boost to cshot though, it’s just to the prior attack is what I’ve stated

[strong ravine]

i know that

[heavy solar]

Ah

Nevermind

[strong ravine]

i am using the attack+cshot because it is representative of the standard combo

you have to attack to cshot

[heavy solar]

120/105 is 1.14 so pretty close to 15% anyways tbh

[strong ravine]

yeah thats what i meant

i thought it was 15% exactly but i have not put that into a calculator for like over half a year

i just remembered it was 15%

[heavy solar]

I mean

115/100 is 1.15

115(+5)/100(+5) != 1.15 exactly

[pallid sundial]

Is it rude if I react with a 🤓

[heavy solar]

Yes

There are better things to 🤓

Like this google sheet I have of for how chiron hammers affect chiron damage

[strong ravine]

i can actually create that sheet very quickly

basically

chiron has no damage

[heavy solar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/989610739721441330/chiron_bow_spread_sheet.png?ex=659704d2&is=65848fd2&hm=9976dd25c171eb75e797d74a654b2b94343b9003cd65b2d3b0321721fc6ca022&

[strong ravine]

every hammer does not change this

so each hammer gives chiron still no damage

[heavy solar]

Oh and this is 4 chain chiron specials w/ purple or red swift flourish
Left side is just concentrated, right is concentrated and relentless)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1023750866534137937/IMG_2248.png?ex=659b3fca&is=6588caca&hm=590900bcb3c13b8345fad596d1b347f3e7cb70d3af096289f5c5c53fd4161568&

Since swift flourish at those rarities makes it fast enough to chain the specials bonus damage

[heavy solar]

Idk man, twin shot seems to boost my damage

[strong ravine]

Hmmmm

[pallid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285694843181858827/1188947232364441690/image.png?ex=659c6065&is=6589eb65&hm=cb777ac9db1ef806b14790a3285d2bac603f7a94366170ad36ce39c7f11cbcf4&

finally got sub10 on all sword aspects !

now onto spear. Should be easier.

[timid saddle]

when exit wounds does its job

[primal crown]

Holy hermes

[bold jolt]

turns out you just need purple rd and an extra cast

[timid saddle]

Bruh i only got common strike 😔 if only it was epic

[primal crown]

Tidal dash also would've helped

[timid saddle]

O yeah true

i js wanted to play it safe lmao

[primal crown]

You didn't even use a DD

Also hestia speedruns normally starts with dash too

[timid saddle]

Eh more dmg output https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/673973174970482731.webp?size=48&name=ResidentZag&quality=lossless

[primal crown]

(and last, swap shadow presence to fiery)

[timid saddle]

👍

Makes sense

[timid saddle]

the extra 3 dashes 😩

[west matrix]

first run under 20 minutes !!

[quiet lark]

actually really good considering your build

[west matrix]

thanks !!

atm i’m just trying to get every secret aspect

so I choose artemis and chaos as much as I can

[ruby shale]

hestia is sooo good for boonless runs

[west matrix]

i unlocked the end cinematic, but when I came to Hades I was at 18:32, guess it was a good run anyway

it is counted as a 19:07 run

[jagged rose]

Finally got a sub 9 on eris

[quiet lark]

splitting where

also nice exclusive access luck

[jagged rose]

Zeus said no splitting which was sad

No rush delivery either unfort

Still shreded hades tho

[quiet lark]

and also cold fusion is quite interesting

[jagged rose]

It just showed up lmao I dont think it did anything of note

If I had it my way I wouldn't have demeter in there at all

[primal crown]

Ia fun for em3 but alas

[primal crown]

The wr for eris has dem special (of had idk) so clearly is optimal

[jagged rose]

Huh

[radiant gorge]

felt so ridiculously powerful

[steep locust]

First Victory! WOOOOOOO

[primal crown]

Gaming

[quiet lark]

arctic blast where

smair where

[steep locust]

Didn't get them

[quiet lark]

damage where

[steep locust]

No such thing

[quiet lark]

although zeus call is great

[steep locust]

Athena's Aid absolutely carries me

But yes, I don't have much damage

[quiet lark]

oh i confused athena with zeus

im colorblind confirmed

[steep locust]

14 seconds of complete invincibility is hilarious

[pallid sundial]

it is pretty fun

Imagine the bosses being like the average speedrunner, cursing at you to stop being impervious

[heavy solar]

Ngl on one of my more recent runs, I think Theseus just didn’t breakpoint

I was waiting for Asterius’s shield to drop and realised that Theseus’s hp bar was misidnf

[indigo holly]

another run down!

[primal crown]

Gaming

[oblique jasper]

Gayming

[final quiver]

how the hell do yall get so much epic+ items?

[kind lichen]

keepsakes+god's pride(mirror upgrade)+luck

there's also a chaos boon that increases rarity

[final quiver]

damn I just discovered that u can change to other talents in the mirror so what are like the best talents to have?

[kind lichen]

there's a mirror guide: #h1-for-new-players message

[indigo holly]

i have converted into a cast enjoyer

6 casts baybee

[pallid sundial]

damn

hera goes brr

[indigo holly]

is gun the most broken weapon???

[pallid sundial]

nah, that's beo

[dense wadi]

All the weapons are about equal, but gun can get pretty crazy with zeus attack

[pallid sundial]

miiight be second most broken though ?

[dense wadi]

Beowulf aspect is def the best though

[pallid sundial]

I'd say so at least

[dense wadi]

Eris is pretty crazy

[bold jolt]

Tbf if we're comparing weapons overall, shield only has Beowulf Zeus and cshot going for it
Rail has like 4 good aspects that are all strong lmao

[quiet lark]

and epic hammers

[grizzled sequoia]

first run with gilgamesh ever and won 😎 😎

[primal crown]

I was gonna say good ME run until I saw the special

[quiet lark]

good men't run

[indigo holly]

killed hades with 2 ACORN CHARGES

[bold jolt]

smear build

[indigo holly]

smair 2nd wind not balanced

[heavy solar]

@bold jolt @strong ravine @hollow jacinth thnx for the help

[hollow jacinth]

[bold jolt]

just get purple rd

[heavy solar]

Yeah I mean turning off ap1 was the best idea ever

I’m more proud of not even popping a single sd on Hades

[strong ravine]

when did zagbow happen

[heavy solar]

?

Like always

my main aspect

Alongside zeus

[strong ravine]

maybe the issue was needing abetter main aspect widecharon3

[heavy solar]

Idk what you mean

Zagbow best bow

What’s Rama never heard of it

[strong ravine]

after the one better bow

and the other better bow

[heavy solar]

Whats discount beowulf? A food?

[acoustic mason]

finally em4

[indigo holly]

gun + dio arte aphro is becoming one of my favorite builds

[quiet lark]

arty call

also ares where

[golden peak]

Arti call is my fav Eris call

[pallid sundial]

speaking of, is gun good at accumulating god gauge ? Since it's very fast, and easy to get shots in because of being ranged

[golden peak]

It's the best

[heavy solar]

Yes

[pallid sundial]

I wanted to try a zeus atk + support fire + arte call build at one point

[heavy solar]

support fire
Arte call

[golden peak]

Support fire good

[heavy solar]

Mid fire

[pallid sundial]

arte call is bottom tier, but not that bad ime

[quiet lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/915039466874372116/1179200752082747503/Screenshot_2023-11-28_152232.png?ex=659dd547&is=658b6047&hm=e2352a2df8e2ac5cd9d753651eb98d2a81798dfaab02b6fdb7665d0aa62ee823&

[golden peak]

It charges quickly enough that u can call iframe every 2nd attack in bosses

[indigo holly]

found ares

[final quiver]

how do u have infinite bullets?

[indigo holly]

delta chamber

[quaint onyx]

new PB w fists AGAIN??? merciful end my beloved

[bold jolt]

ME moment

[bold jolt]

btw if you want to bring down the time a bit more, take fiery presence. a dash upper will one shot witches in tartarus and there's probably more breakpoints that help with that. ananke's fists guide should help you lower it more

[quaint onyx]

oh true

forgot doom doesnt backstab

[primal crown]

clean timer lmao

[pallid sundial]

poseidon attack fist without long knuckle sounds like torture

sisyphus : cursed to push a boulder uphill for all eternity
zagreus : cursed to punch a shade away then run after for all eternity

[dense wadi]

Good advice. I ALWAYS forget about fiery presence, even on builds like clockets and ME

[bold jolt]

Tbf a good rule of thumb is to just always have fiery presence on

The only exceptions would be like shadow presence on Achilles

For low heat at least

At higher heats then it gets more specific about what's better

[heavy solar]

How do you forget about the superior upgrade

Smh

[quiet lark]

no backstab arthur is funny

[heavy solar]

And that’s like the one case where you would switch it on

Unless it’s dc gamign

[quiet lark]

you can also just have funny backstab anytime

one of my hera runs ended up relying on backstab
327 damage per shot with flurry

[craggy saddle]

my second escape with fists, didnt have to death defy once lol ME is just that good

(sorry if its hard to see, its a photo of a screenshot on my switch)

[heavy solar]

Tbh you may want to try out sending yourself the ss’s

I take photos of mine when I can control the lighting and angle

[craggy saddle]

i would but my phone is broken rn, an upgrade in being shipped rn tho

[heavy solar]

oh great fun

Makes sense then

What did you take a photo with then?

[craggy saddle]

chromebook

[heavy solar]

yikes

[craggy saddle]

ikr

[bold jolt]

ME moment

[terse terrace]

First win. Weird build?

[hot dagger]

So weird!

[quiet lark]

funny first 32 sword

note: ddash was doing 50 damage

[quiet lark]

there is no semblance of a build here
there simply is no synergy in any way
although a clear is still very impressive, especially with such a finishing set of boons and aspect

[pallid sundial]

Meh, ice wine strong

Ddash strong

Frost strike is bad but still 40% of a good choice

[indigo holly]

classic "stuff that gives numbers" build for 0 heat clear

[pallid sundial]

Kinda yeah

[primal crown]

is basically an unoptimized trippy shot build tbh

[pallid sundial]

You don't need more

Still, GG on that first win !

[primal crown]

also yeah, gg first of all lol

[pallid sundial]

Many more are coming

[terse terrace]

After that win now im struggling with the Elysium boss lol

[terse terrace]

What is considered a build?

[heavy solar]

Boons being put together cohesively and intentionally

Your “build” looks like you just took whatever you came across

Which tbf

You probably did?

The 4 gods you have don’t really mesh into each other at all and where you have them on each of your cores is

But it’s to be expected for a first win

and I wouldn’t be too concerned as long as it was fun

[craggy saddle]

another fist escape (omg for once i didnt do a ME build)

oh god the boons are so unclear

[primal crown]

The brainrot is strong enough to notice which boons are those anyways

Gg

[craggy saddle]

ngl i wasnt even going for smair at the start but then when i got natural aphrodite special i realized a smair run might be fun

[bold jolt]

smair kinda strong

rip jolted poms tho

[terse terrace]

Yea I did. How do I get the gods I want when it depends on luck?

I just took whatever I thought would benefit me the most.

[indigo holly]

Use their heirlooms

You get them by gifting nectar to their boons before clicking them

They olympians will give a nice trinket that forces the next boon to be of that god

Most builds will have 2 core gods and the rest as support

[terse terrace]

So I just use X god and X god trinket in Tartarus and Asphodel?

[heavy solar]

Yep

that lets you start off with something you know will work

And the other half of it will actually be getting a better grasp on boons

[terse terrace]

So something like Athena in Tartarus and then Ares to try and get ME?

[indigo holly]

Usually people go the other way around but yeah

Ares tart athena asph

[terse terrace]

oh ok

[heavy solar]

Typically the other way round, guaranteeing the doom strike (and even sometimes guaranteeing the rarity of the doom strike)

If people don’t see it sometimes they’ll just quickly die so they can have another chance

Matters a lot more if you’re pushing higher heats or speed to have the rarity there

[golden peak]

with fists i like starting athena dashand getting whatever flat damage i get first

[terse terrace]

Whats flat damage?

[kind lichen]

ares, zeus and dio

[terse terrace]

Im trying to max out my mirror and friendship rn. Quickly die you mean suicide instantly?

[kind lichen]

they don't increase ur dmg directly like % boon (aphro,arti,athena,pos)

but add a new source of dmg

[heavy solar]

Yeah

So they can get a new seed

[craggy saddle]

i literally didnt get it to show up until styx lol so thats why

[terse terrace]

Do those boons increase the flat damage of the other boons?

[heavy solar]

+% boons that specifically boost attack/special won’t boost your attack/special flat damage

Those need global damage boosts like rush delivery

It would be quite broken if you could get 300% doom damage off of chaos strikes

[terse terrace]

oh okay tysm

[thick flame]

Good job

what is the heat level on left

[quaint onyx]

womp womp cold embrace womp womp

[pallid sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/285694843181858827/1190281344631189596/image.png?ex=65a13ae2&is=658ec5e2&hm=f11142dba68ab63069828e69bc950973120b129d146c0ee4710da8f3c02381e0&

Merciful Endwho ? We throwing spears in this house

[primal crown]

Epic swift flourish gaming

[pallid sundial]

I had no idea how to scale that build beyond aphro special (and getting the charged skewer in ely), but then chaos and hermes were kind

[primal crown]

Gaming

Also for next time don't have more than 1 source of hangover

Newer stacks override the oldest

[pallid sundial]

And especially drunken dash sucks

[terse terrace]

Second win, good ME build? I barely made it lol.

[kind lichen]

nice

[final quiver]

nice!

[kind lichen]

u got everything you'd want on ME build

except good hermes but that's pretty common

[terse terrace]

I got lucky and sold the fishing boon for 450gold

[terse terrace]

Oh I didnt know, I skipped all Hermes lol

[pallid sundial]

Hermes is broken

Hyper sprint and rush delivery is double damage for basically free

Also getting more dash is amazing as well

[tribal moth]

some specific builds can go well with attack speed too, Hermes is really broken

[terse terrace]

I need something to increases my speed for rush delivery to work?

[pallid sundial]

Yeah ? That's the effect. What did you think it did ?

Am confuse

[terse terrace]

How does the % work?

[pallid sundial]

wdym

It increases damage by the percent

[terse terrace]

So if I have any % move speed bonus then my damage will deal +50% if the boon is common?

[pallid sundial]

Oh

Nah, you will get a % damage boost of 50% of your speed boost

So if you get +40% speed and common rush delivery, you will have a +20% damage boost

[craggy saddle]

heat 3, Extreme Measures 1, Damage Control 1, Tight Deadline 1

[ivory sky]

got a "perfect"

flood shot can be a lot of fun

[tall briar]

no dmg?

[ivory sky]

got hit twice but had the acorn

[primal crown]

Is this flood shot gaming or mostly rod

[ivory sky]

flood

rod would've taken much longer

i also had hyper sprint so it was easier to dance around him

[lunar peak]

Is this normal after I've defeated hades once or just luck

[thick flame]

oh good good

[quiet lark]

luck

(10%+whatever bonuses you have)^3 is the percent chance

[thick flame]

gaming

[quiet lark]

havent seen cold embrance in so long

[ivory sky]

robbed than 25-0

also had epic hs+rd on top of an already good build

[zenith bough]

I recently started playing again and just got 32 heat again. My rng was pretty unethical but I'll take it

[pallid sundial]

Congrats and welcome back!

[primal crown]

Good ol cp2 + js1 into almost td3 time

[zenith bough]

I can't reliably do a 5 minute tartarus on chiron and you can get away with it if you have 7 so I took it

[loud siren]

Not sure if I had a good build, but this was my second win

[thick flame]

gj

[indigo holly]

double zeus is pretty powerful

[terse terrace]

Why did you put 6 heat lol. Nice one though

[thick flame]

he was experiencing i guess

[primal crown]

Hell mode, 5 heat is forced

Then added em1 for bounties ig

[terse terrace]

ohh

[loud siren]

Had hell mode on, and added the 1 heat for new bounties lmao

[gray marsh]

@bold jolt told ya i could do it with one bloodstone

[bold jolt]

this is literally just discount zag bow lmao

i assumed you were gonna play normal hera

[gray marsh]

yeah but i needed to win with the estigian

[obsidian geyser]

yippie !

[indigo holly]

That's a lot of duos

[ashen elm]

i need more ichor

[thick flame]

And that's bunch of ignited ichor lol

[bold jolt]

rd stonks

[tall briar]

nice 100 streak lol

[indigo holly]

imagine not hitting

[modern lodge]

like my 2 favorite duos ever in one run

[primal crown]

Give me your luck 🔫

[upbeat pine]

how can i know which of my boons comes from the hammer guy?

[primal crown]

Is the silver-ish border one (next to your heroic boon)

[upbeat pine]

bottom right of the heroic?

[primal crown]

Or 3rd row, 2nd from bottom to top

Yeah that one, can also hover over it and read the description as hammers always change weapon mechanics

[upbeat pine]

yeah this is why i wanted to know

how can i know in the future without asking here which is from the hammer guy

not worth sacrificing right?

this is op i think, no?

especially since I've got like 200% or more bonus damage on dash strike

[indigo holly]

em4 is fun

genuinely one of the most fun boss fights in a 2d arena game i've played

[primal crown]

Banger build

[upbeat pine]

My first win

[primal crown]

Gaming

[upbeat pine]

how does your victory screen have that skin?

[tall briar]

if u got the thing where u deal more dmg to foes with shards in em

dont get quick reload

[upbeat pine]

i'm not sure if had that or not

[indigo holly]

id assume lightning rod would change things?

[tall briar]

bottom of the middle boons

[upbeat pine]

no i mean the extra damage with shards stuck in thing

bottom of the middle boons is the quick reload no?

[tall briar]

its a mirror thing

[upbeat pine]

ah

[heavy solar]

It’s a work order once you complete enough other work orders

[quaint onyx]

melee bow moment

terrible luck with chaos but the hammers were quite nice actually

[pallid sundial]

love me some melee bow

[heavy solar]

That just sounds like bow

[quiet lark]

nice td3 time
(use mort)

[obsidian geyser]

bro everything got like deleted i barely had to do anything

[indigo holly]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xreOX-zVO0

[quiet lark]

wouldve been a bit faster if you didnt move around so much

also em4 when

[final quiver]

mods: longer runs, mirror of night extended

[thick flame]

That health

[bold jolt]

60% dark foresight is wild lmao

[pallid sundial]

6 dashes

[quiet lark]

25 health per chamber

[heavy solar]

This is fine

[primal crown]

with 60% god's pride comes bad hermes boons lmao

[bold jolt]

50 rerolls tho

[timid saddle]

9 dds 😭😭😭

[terse terrace]

Did you fight 10 Hades at once 🥲

[pallid sundial]

12 tiny vermins

imagine

[thick flame]

i dont wanna imagine that 12 tiny vermins

[quiet lark]

imagine 12 butterfly balls

[pallid sundial]

If you get it once, you're stunlocked so hard that zag takes 20 minutes to get out of the pool of styx

The corollary is that if you win the fight you didn't get hit once

[bold jolt]

Sounds like a job for Beowulf

[pallid sundial]

I mean

what doesn't ?

[bold jolt]

Fair enough

[drifting laurel]

new player (very late to the game ik) first ever clear, took me 25 attempts (a couple of which were just me messing around)

went hard with the microwave run for sure

[pallid sundial]

congrats !

[wild mica]

why didn't anyone tell me that the bow was broken before

[tall briar]

people prefer hera aspect

[gusty birch]

3rd phase with no time

[indigo holly]

TRIPLE BOMB
You can use your Special By my father's name.

[sullen hornet]

HEROIC

Wait what does middle management cutter mean? I haven't had it before. Pick every mini boss with their heat on?

[primal crown]

Fought mini bosses on all biomes I think

[real grove]

One run before new year

[cyan bison]

beat hades with a weapon other than sword for once lol

[jagged rose]

Bow 2nd most used

🎉

[heavy solar]

Not exactly a PB

[real grove]

heh, been a year since a run 🤭

[heavy solar]

You certainly know which weapon you like 🫡

[real grove]

heh, i dooo!

i just love the versatility the spear offers between close and long range

[heavy solar]

…not that other weapons don’t have that

[real grove]

hahaha

[bold jolt]

bow is a melee weapon

[heavy solar]

My friends don’t believe me

[quiet lark]

bow is a backstab weapon

i have been scarred from my hera phalanx run spiraling into a 327 per hit flurry shot

[obsidian geyser]

escaped w all the weapons

[loud siren]

First double digit heat run

[tall briar]

best build for bow?

[dense wadi]

Depends on the aspect

[terse terrace]

My best ME run

[quiet lark]

doom poms???????????????????????????????

[terse terrace]

I think I got unlucky most of my poms are random

First crystal run

[quiet lark]

arctic blast where

[tall briar]

u still won so its a w

[terse terrace]

It is in there

[quiet lark]

the whole reason you take glacial glare is to hope for arctic blast, which adds 8-10 damage per tick
or if youre on stygian soul

oh mb i thought that was rare crop👴

wait that is i just confused arctic blast with snow burst

[terse terrace]

I have both lol

[terse terrace]

What other gods I should go for after artemis and demeter? #h1-builds-and-combat

[quiet lark]

finally got exploding launcher(hooray prophecy)
also the run slightly spiraled from a special build into a cast build when i took flood shot in tart

[pallid sundial]

It's been a long time since I played arctic blast, but iirc proccing the blast clears all stacks of chill. So it's 10 damage each 11 ticks, not each tick

[quiet lark]

10 damage every 11 ticks is crazy

[pallid sundial]

Oh wait

It does 100 damage every 11 tocks

So you're right

[quiet lark]

80-110

[pallid sundial]

you mean all your most important boons are not epic ? That sounds painful. I would hate that it happens to me

[quiet lark]

imagine not having heroic

[heavy solar]

Procing blast does clear all stacks, and then you can’t reapply for a little

[heavy solar]

Or killing freeze

[sullen hornet]

-place bombs
-dash into them with athena so they blow up while you're hyper sprinting

New strat:
Place 3 bombs far apart
Place NINE bombs where you want an enemy to be. for example where REDACTED stands between phases (because if you click fast, only the oldest 1 bomb blows up)
Completely skip the phases where he shoots lasers

[quiet lark]

there is no laser shooting phase, its just "phase 2"

[sullen hornet]

but there are 2 different patterns of laser depeding on his hp

He tried to shoot lasers once but I interrupted him with damage. Looks like a phase change to me

[indigo holly]

insane

[primal crown]

I like the exact 100 gold

[heavy solar]

Td1 on td3 time really feels like a shame

Free heat

[indigo holly]

i solved the problem of figuring out how to consistently get under 20 mins by turning on fo2

[timid saddle]

CLOCKET 😍

[halcyon cypress]

Decided to lurk around here before trying to clear 32 heat, guess that was the right call I totally did it first try I can’t feel any better

[indigo holly]

that... is an interesting pact combo

js2 cp1 over even td1

gg tho

[heavy solar]

Congrats for beating 32 heat for the first time (especially with a rougher pact like this)

[halcyon cypress]

I just picked whatever felt easy to me

[heavy solar]

Honestly shooting for it after 8 clears w/ bow is also a tad crazy

[halcyon cypress]

I am not very familiar with names what would be td1

[heavy solar]

Tight Deadline

Shortforms are like literally just the simplest acronyms

[halcyon cypress]

Oh the 36min run ye I was going into the run thinking I am playing bow super safe no stress so I didn’t wanna put a deadline

[heavy solar]

Deadline is usually seen as just free heat… but you’ve also gotten Jury Summons 3, Calesthenics Program 1 and damage control 2

So your run was artificially time lengthened

[halcyon cypress]

I see I see

I was considering dropping Jury summons for the extra measurement 4 but I got scared I have never faced last boss with 40% speed

Idunno how much harder it is probably just diff timing

[heavy solar]

Em4 isn’t really taken this early tbh

Just found my last 32 heat pact

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1188657038608310333/9544E41D-A1E1-457C-A921-5E0E61AA32F8.jpg?ex=65a48ca2&is=659217a2&hm=08d4de5fb0223d15a3a72eda1a05ac92c2fad92b32f158d766832c6b07611d4b&

Normally Hard Labour is at 5 and not 3 but I wasn’t too sure of myself with Hera since I don’t use it often

iirc

[halcyon cypress]

You just rly focus on a no hit run

Or do u purposely die on each rooms

Also off my 40 clears my fastest is 20:08 so td3 seems unreachable as well

[heavy solar]

Tbf

Your current pact is actually shooting you in the foot almost as hard as possible

[halcyon cypress]

[heavy solar]

and just a few levels, 1 or 2, is an extra 2 heat you can take off elsewhere

[halcyon cypress]

I’m gonna be honest I tried this pact with excalibur and gave up after 3min before going on the bow

[strong ravine]

thats one of the worst 32 pacts ive ever seen

[halcyon cypress]

Because I knew it was gonna be impossible

[strong ravine]

god almighty

how can u take so many pacts

im always amazed by just the number of things taken on new 32s

[heavy solar]

Have you seen the reddit ones though?

[strong ravine]

yeah ive seen the ri3 pact

ive done 32 on ri4

[halcyon cypress]

What’s the benefits of taking deadline over damage control

[strong ravine]

but its just like

[strong ravine]

way lrss bad

damage control is annoying as hell

tight deadline is free

[halcyon cypress]

My very first heat when playing this game was damage control

I read them all and thought

Yep this one is the worst

[strong ravine]

so you made a bad decision

thats on you

we all did

my first 32 pact i thought of was pretty bad

[heavy solar]

I just doubled back and looked at your mirror and goodness it’s a bit better but still

[halcyon cypress]

Still first tried it with a bit of power of friendship and rng

[heavy solar]

Don’t do yourself dirty like that

With a pact like this you’ve got to have some skill

[halcyon cypress]

Honestly I just got everything I wanted off the boons I found

[heavy solar]

There are only 3 outliers off your mirror and they aren’t really that bad

[halcyon cypress]

What are they

[heavy solar]

Oh this was Chiron

Avoid having 2 sources of hangover

It only uses the damage from the last one that hit

So if you put a lot of poms into your special

You might get screwed by your attack

[halcyon cypress]

Oh

Yeah I got my attack on the shop of the last zone right before the fight

Because I didn’t have any attack boons

So I was like Better than nothing

[heavy solar]

fiery presence for the first one (kill enemies on the first hit to make them dead), regen should be swapped to the green one (can’t remember name, but it’s consistent healing), and

The one that lets you start off with gold >>>> the hoarder mirror upgrade

I’m missing names for both

[halcyon cypress]

Fiery presence with cp is just meh

[heavy solar]

Deep pockets perhaps?

Well having cp and dc in the first place is

[halcyon cypress]

It’s like if I’m gonna take 3 arrows to kill u rather do 4 it’s just a 25% dps decrease

[quiet lark]

im just slow which is why i td2

[halcyon cypress]

Wait deep pockets is better ?

[quiet lark]

yes

[heavy solar]

yeah

[halcyon cypress]

Istg gold touch always gives me

400 on a run

[quiet lark]

you get a MUCH faster tart and asphodel

[heavy solar]

It shouldn’t if you’re properly using your gold

[halcyon cypress]

I am not using my gold I perma buy the diamond/blood

At the end

[heavy solar]

Tbh

If you’re trying to get blood

[quiet lark]

yeah you want to buy boons and stuff instead if youre doing high heat

[heavy solar]

Consider clearing bounties

You have a lot of free blood hanging

Same with diamonds

[halcyon cypress]

I mean bounties are 2 blood every time

[quiet lark]

2 blood per clear, 40 blood per weapon

[heavy solar]

And 1 diamond

[quiet lark]

and 1 diamond, which is half a blood

and 1 ambrosia, which is a blood

[heavy solar]

So you are now more efficiently getting blood

Then 0.75/run

[halcyon cypress]

I perma get bounties honestly

I haven’t had a run without a bounty in forever

[quiet lark]

try heat

[halcyon cypress]

Like never except for the sword clear I have to do

[quiet lark]

then youll see lots of darkness

[heavy solar]

And tbh those bounty runs won’t be as long if you use a “proper” pact that isn’t shooting you in the foot timewise

Also… consider the #h1-builds-and-combat channel if you have any questions

[thick flame]

This pack of punishment works easy for me

thx for that

[signal rock]

Now let's see that third statue, Skelly!

[indigo holly]

what on earth is this pact

[quiet lark]

you swapped the attack and special

and that pact is wild

[signal rock]

I didn't have a great build. Only one option per choice, no re-rolls.

[indigo holly]

people will do ANYTHING to avoid td3

[signal rock]

TD3 I could reliably get to Styx but would always lose to Hades.

So this run was all about making Hades as normal as possible.

[bold jolt]

this is certianly a pact and build of all time

[signal rock]

Hahahaha

[quiet lark]

its better than lc4 hl4 em4 ri4 td3

[signal rock]

I call it "True Random."

[indigo holly]

i think destroying any semblance of consistency is not worth learning to speed up clears

[quiet lark]

td1 and cp1 are needed

[signal rock]

I'd agree with that. Up until now I have always played Darker Thirst and have gotten all weapons cleared up to at least 12. Shield had my record before this at 20. I'm a flexible player. Not a speedrunner though.

I can only admire their skill from afar.

[indigo holly]

eh, i think there's a lot of value in learning how to play faster, even if you aren't speedrunning

[signal rock]

True. Took a while for me to adjust to Fiery Prescience.

[halcyon cypress]

And you thought mine was bad

[heavy solar]

This is pretty agregious too

[halcyon cypress]

First clear under 20

[indigo holly]

nice

[heavy solar]

Bro used the speed pact but worse

[indigo holly]

HOW AM I 2 SECONDS BEHIND MY PB

[heavy solar]

Em2/Fo2 is fine, but em4 for 13 heat is way overkill

[heavy solar]

You are kind of using the speed pact, I don’t see the issue

[indigo holly]

im using fo2 to get used to it

(also grinding bounties)

[grizzled sequoia]

i barely survived 😰

[indigo holly]

living on a prayer, i see

[primal crown]

hp is a resource, you just used all of it

[quiet lark]

i do em4 for 10 heat

granted its for practice when i eventually do it on heat

[grizzled sequoia]

it is there to help me not die!!! 😎

[halcyon cypress]

How about this 32 heat

[bold jolt]

still a cursed pact but it's less cursed than the last one lmao

[heavy solar]

Better pact, would still skimp out on cp, js and dc though

Also Athena opens up like 3 duos you wouldn’t want on this build, so as good as her dash is, idk man.

[halcyon cypress]

I legit had no damage whatsover

But it's fine we ball

[bold jolt]

lvl 5 drunken fourish is your damage lmao

it's not like amazing damage but it's consistent, which is the point of hangover

2 chaos flourishes too with 29% sweet surrender, that's not too bad either

[halcyon cypress]

It really took me forever to kill final boss tho

I'm just not rly used to play on hangover effects

Usually I just go Artemis and crit for 700

[strong ravine]

its chiron

what do you expect

chiron has never killed an enemy

[halcyon cypress]

Leave him alone

[strong ravine]

no

hater till i die

[indigo holly]

js2 cp2 is an insane thought to me

rooms will take minutes to clear

em4 as well

[heavy solar]

Coaches don’t play

[halcyon cypress]

I've played on em4 ever since it was available so I'm sort of used to the fight, once you get to that it's easier

[heavy solar]

Yeah but tbh it’s going to make all the usually better heat options seem worse in comparision

like the ones that are better in every other scenario

[halcyon cypress]

At the end of the day it's whatever's better for you

[heavy solar]

Yeah

[halcyon cypress]

You all seem to hate dc but I feel like it's just 2 free heat

Unless I'm playing very slow weapons

[heavy solar]

I’m trying to find the heat guide to recommend it to you

[halcyon cypress]

Sure tho I would rather wanna keep dmg low on my every run

[heavy solar]

The ones that prolong enemy life expectancy get exponentially worse with each added level of heat

that’s why

Enemies living long isn’t just extending your time in every room but also giving them more chance to hit you

so td becomes worse, and so does lc and hl

and then enemies living longer stacks with enemies living longer, so cp (an already bad pact option) becomes worse

And then js, an also bad heat option, becomes worse because there are now more enemies to benefit from this, slowing you down and hitting you more

[bold jolt]

might be becuase you gave him like an extra 15k health lmao

cp2 moment

[heavy solar]

Yeah I mean just your hangover alone would’ve taken about 9 minutes to kill him

Sorry make that 7.5

[heavy solar]

Mfw when making enemies have more hp makes enemies take longer to kill

[grizzled sequoia]

i actually did another run and i actually beat hades with the aspect of arthur 😎

aspect of arthur does so much dmg

[heavy solar]

It certainly puts out big damage numbers (just disregard the time aspect)

[sullen hornet]

Incredible Hestia run

Kill + Cast + reload +Dash Strike = 3,000 damage

[snow hull]

That's a lot of %

No fiery presence?

[sullen hornet]

I forgot

Backstab is better for bosses anyway

Should also have done family favourite instead but oh well. Was fun

[indigo holly]

first time hitting clockets

[heavy solar]

[terse terrace]

What is this build 😭 Image this with Artemis attack

[indigo holly]

how this this turbo ultra tragic build beat 32 heat

[primal crown]

Rd good

Gg and congrats

[indigo holly]

i can now say that i'm good at this game

probably

[golden peak]

now imagine if you had clockets, you could easily beat 40

[indigo holly]

or like

any other real damage

[golden peak]

i dont think builds get better than this lol

[indigo holly]

is this actually good, i can't tell

[golden peak]

lvl 4 jolt and rocket bomb with lvl 6 epic aphro special with chaos and lvl 4 epic shoals with lvl 3 epic tdash and rd on top of all that

[indigo holly]

hm

maybe i'm just not very good at making builds then

or rather, identifying when a build is good

[primal crown]

The build is your standard eris + rd making it great

[golden peak]

eris

[pallid sundial]

honestly you just want clockets, otherwise it's perfect build

you could get greedy with splitting and call and smair, but meh

[quiet lark]

thats almost the opposite of my first 32

if you got splitting, zeus call, and smair, it wouldve been the complete opposite

[indigo holly]

Wdym by this

[ember heart]

Splitting gives you a chance for double bolt which makes the Zeus call op, and smouldering air charges the call automatically

[quiet lark]

i got none of the boons i wanted
took an epic drunk flourish to try and swap for a heroic thunder flourish and for a faster tart/asphodel

turned out zeus didnt appear that run

so basically i had to cope with drunk level 1 zeus shield

[indigo holly]

Oh you just got turbo unlucky

Lucky > good as always

[quiet lark]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1152045284629696573/Screenshot_2023-09-14_at_5.55.13_PM.png?ex=65a08e47&is=658e1947&hm=233747bf28bfbec16dc49e611b471067bd30af3e972867aed32b3b49b391d111&

the greatest run of all time

[primal crown]

What kind of gamble was this lmfao

[indigo holly]

Despite that you made it out with 2 defies

[quiet lark]

what happened:
took drunk flourish for a swap/some actual damage in tart/asph
took something(i think thunder dash) for static discharge/splitting bolt reqs for when i eventually get thunder flourish

zeus decided to dip

[heavy solar]

I don’t see much difference between this and this with artemis attack

[terse terrace]

But is Artemis better?

[golden peak]

is quick reload a self nerf there

[primal crown]

Nah, if you can't wallbug it helps a lot

[golden peak]

the aspect says 3.08 seconds

and the boon says 3.1

[primal crown]

Hera max lvl is 5 seconds

Quick reload effect is directly put into hera's description

[heavy solar]

I mean artemis would open mirage shot

[pallid sundial]

oh, I didn't know that

[golden peak]

oh wow

[pallid sundial]

that's cool

[heavy solar]

Dang that’s a nice touch

[harsh aurora]

god damn

i didn't expect to get so luck with the duos

also nice 2 streak dident even realize

[primal crown]

EA as last boon moment

[harsh aurora]

that is what acctually happened

lmao

[primal crown]

there's not a single epic boon in sight

[heavy solar]

This is why you need God’s Pride

[quiet lark]

no you need the 2% from legascam

[signal rock]

That moment you get Exclusive Access at the end of Styx.

[signal rock]

I love this. Keep it up!

[harsh aurora]

Will do, thanks!

[harsh aurora]

did a clear using hera, it went insanely well!

[primal crown]

Nice priviliged status

Nvm that's blinding flash PS was actually on

[dense wadi]

I know privileged status is less consistent, but I always use it purely for the sound it makes

It’s so satisfying

[pallid sundial]

Valid

[woven fox]

Any thought on my build? I started quite recently and i am only beginning to dive into theorycrafting.

The build felt good but it is probably because i had 2 duo boons for my festive fog.

[indigo holly]

it's coherent

[primal crown]

Swapping to stygian soul (and lucking out with +1 casts) would help

Also swapping to family favorites cuz you couldn't manage to activate it constantly

Unless you know you are getting 2 curse status, Fam favs is more consistent

[quiet lark]

take acorn into styx, and dont pom useless boons

even if the damage seems really little, sometimes pomming important boons makes a big difference

for example, speedrunners usually end up with 10 poms on their cast

[woven fox]

what did you considered useless? Curse of vengeance?

[quiet lark]

yes

revenge effects are really only good if you plan on getting vengeful mood(ares+zeus duo), or are doing a facetank build

[woven fox]

because i wanted to up the cast more, but he wasn't always in the pom selection

[pallid sundial]

Meh, it's a lot of damage on a pretty frequent timer

Pomming cast or jolted is better, but curse of vengeance is 100% fine

You don't need to proc it every frame for it to be worth

[primal crown]

Ares/zeus vengeance aren't bad and yeah assumed it was gonna be cuz no cast in pom screen

[quiet lark]

i typically just purge revenge effects

[heavy solar]

I mean

[woven fox]

I was hoping to get some hangover to use with cold, but it didn't worked.

[heavy solar]

Curse of vengeance -> holy shield + merciful end

[quiet lark]

but wheres holy shield+deadly reversal

[stuck jackal]

I was convinced I had a bad run with crappy boons... Turns out dad died real quick

[quiet lark]

flurry epic dstrike is already enough

[stuck jackal]

apparently 🥲

[gray marsh]

this build makes demeter cast actually good

[quiet lark]

castpect where

[gray marsh]

Isn’t that how you call the bloodstone?

[quiet lark]

castpect is a cast aspect

meaning achilles, hidden shield, poseidon, and talos generally

occasionally some people do eris

[gray marsh]

huh

[bold jolt]

Eris' damage buff is global
The niche use case is like if you have Artemis special and you run into ares and you take his cast lmao

[gray marsh]

i still dont get what are you guys talking about

[bold jolt]

Castpect is an aspect that gives some sort of bonus to the cast

Poseidon, Achilles, Beowulf, Hera, Talos, and eris all give cast damage

Out of those, eris and generally Talos arent really used as castpects

[strong ravine]

gilga does too

if eris does

[pallid sundial]

I was about to say

Then jazz I award you with

[bold jolt]

Oh yeah gilga

[gray marsh]

ok but what does any of that have to do with my build

[bold jolt]

You did a cast build on something that wasn't a castpect I suppose

You missed out on free damage buff from Achilles or Poseidon basically

Or Talos and eris

[gray marsh]

bruh i dont even care about aspects, i just use the same on every weapon 😭

[pallid sundial]

Based

unless one of those is chaos aspect

But part of a build is choosing the better aspect to play, so while your build's all good, it feels weird

[little prairie]

Epic hyper delivery, an used Athena defiance, an unused one, and this for my new bow heat record on my 120th bow clear.

And forgot to use battie

Divine dash is really good

[quiet lark]

use stygian for dio

and pray for extra casts

[little prairie]

That was the first way I beat 32 heat

On EM4 TD0

Have fond memories of it

[lunar peak]

5th win against Hades using the fists

[little prairie]

Lots of upper enhancement

I head the pull push is fun

[thick flame]

Luna!

[sullen hornet]

7 casts is funny

Why are the sizes of the boxes different? They shouldn't be overlapping

:)

[pallid sundial]

GG !

[primal crown]

Nice zag bow run

[snow hull]

you have 6 columns of boons

[sullen hornet]

Oh yeah lol

[indigo holly]

this is an awful build

[kind lichen]

cursed build

[heavy solar]

That’s what you get for running curse of drowning

[indigo holly]

i needed the prophecy

[molten minnow]

i just wanted to farm

[primal crown]

Green mirror

[molten minnow]

my best record yet! im getting used to this green mirror thing

flurry fire carried this build im ngl

[molten minnow]

question: how'd you get your victory frame to look like that? :O

[willow bronze]

Cosmetic upgrades through contractor. Can’t remember exactly when they’re unlocked

[indigo holly]

All work orders complete

[willow bronze]

Oh that makes sense

[indigo holly]

why do my meme runs win

[quiet lark]

hand over that luck

🔫

[indigo holly]

finally

can't believe i actually beat it in td3 time as well, even if it is only 6 heat

[quiet lark]

em4 when

[indigo holly]

literally never

no hermes sucks nuts

[worn eagle]

I saw this and decided to give it a spin too... but with EM4 and Tight Deadline!

note: bow is probably the weapon I am worst at among the six, as should be made clear by my heat- and time-records

||first try lmao||

[indigo holly]

better player than me

[heavy solar]

||ok but do it ff now||

[worn eagle]

How about: no, cannot be bothered

[worn eagle]

I can try grinding for a 1-boon freshfile run though, if that is something you want to see happen (à la Retr0Spektre with his Divine Protection only run)

[fickle shore]

@heavy solar @bold jolt

My first time beating the game with fists. Second attempt, too

[quiet lark]

gaming

[fickle shore]

Back when I did it, anyway

[quiet lark]

switch olympian favor when

[fickle shore]

All my other victories took over 30 minutes

I like Dionysus

[pallid sundial]

dio is good yeah

and his call is one of the best in the game

[indigo holly]

dunno how dio is relevant to this build outsdie of call

[heavy solar]

Divine strike is mad questionable

[pallid sundial]

Also yeah the build seems solid. Except colossus knuckle don't play well with concentrated

[fickle shore]

I only have like, 30 hours of gameplay. I'm not deep into the builds yet

[pallid sundial]

that's way enough

[heavy solar]

This build being “solid” is mad questionable

[pallid sundial]

ain't. Very safe. Safety means you can hit more.

[fickle shore]

The fact y'all remember the names is nice. I don't really read them, I just look at the effects

[pallid sundial]

It's not optimized, but it's good

[fickle shore]

[heavy solar]

I mean

560+ runs does that to a dude

[pallid sundial]

dw it comes with playing the game for 100+ hours

[fickle shore]

I'm still close to 40 runs/30 hours

[heavy solar]

564/405-ish

[fickle shore]

Someone's fan

a*

[heavy solar]

It’s a good game

[fickle shore]

We should leave this chat, mods will bonk us

[heavy solar]

And I try a lot of stupid stuff

[heavy solar]

If anyone would get banned it’s me tbh, with how many messages I’ve sent here

Wait discord doesn’t tell you exactly how many messages you have sent anymore

It’s too many either way

[pallid sundial]

yeah we can go to #h1-builds-and-combat

[woven fox]

4 duo boons. Is that even good?😅
I also did it for the fates...

[heavy solar]

A) that’s 3 duos, b) yeah this is pretty nice

[woven fox]

Ah yeah the first one was only a regular legendary, I tend to mix them up.😅

[indigo holly]

ME rail isn't something i expected to see

[woven fox]

I guess it is more played on fists?

[quiet lark]

yes

me is generally on melee weapons(i dont understand why)

[bold jolt]

melee aspects, like sword, spear, fists, and sometimes shield

[heavy solar]

Rail is a melee weapon

[bold jolt]

ME can work on eris but it's just a little awkward

free 75% scaling lmao

[quiet lark]

budget delta chamber me when

and also actual delta chamber me when

[heavy solar]

ME zag rail works brilliant

[golden peak]

eris ME

[quiet lark]

rama ME

[quiet lark]

i hate styx

also did last phase with about 2 hits taken

most damage taken was from mistiming charged shot release against the spin

[indigo holly]

hl5 is 1000% easier than lc4

[loud siren]

how do you get those victory cards?

[indigo holly]

complete all work orders including contract breaking ones

[loud siren]

oh man

thats gonna take forever

[pallid sundial]

death defiance

[fervent trail]

Pretty mid boons this run ngl. tried to make a good Arthur build.

[primal crown]

Lmfao

Dio's legendary but no hangover or dio cast

[bold jolt]

Lightning strike Arthur might be why it felt mid but also red Rd and jolted kinda good

[golden peak]

Why are there dupes

[primal crown]

Smair would make it work too

[quiet lark]

thunder flourish poms where

[primal crown]

That zeus call would've been nice

[indigo holly]

what exactly am i looking at here

[fervent trail]

Guess I got unlucky🤷🏼‍♂️

[golden peak]

No like

Two of the same boon

[heavy solar]

“Good build” and “arthur” in the same sentence

[fervent trail]

I main Arthur

you can exile me now

[bold jolt]

Red Rd can make anything good

Esp with Sprint and haste

[heavy solar]

I don’t see any dupes

[fervent trail]

Omg made it too hades in under a second!

I told you Arthur is good!

[golden peak]

Two flurry casts and two quick reloads

I think that's what they are

[fervent trail]

All Hermes boons look similar, its just that I got every heroic hermes boon in the game

[quiet lark]

chamber 11 very interesting

[fervent trail]

Yeah I got lucky

Just spawned into Styx right away🤷‍♂️

[golden peak]

It's common tho

[fervent trail]

Oh

I might have forgotten to set the booms to heroic

My bad

[golden peak]

Are these not the same

[heavy solar]

Ones legendary and ones heroic

[bold jolt]

Maybe one is for stygian and one is for infernal

[quiet lark]

no way legendary flurry

[golden peak]

Oh

Cursed

[heavy solar]

Tbf

It’s only slightly higher than your average amohnt of hermes

[fervent trail]

Somebody tell Zeus I don’t need THIS much help

It’s about 23 boons

[heavy solar]

Idk man I think zeus is right

[fervent trail]

If I was an Olympian and I saw Zagreus get to the surface and die because the air particles were too aggressive I would give up on him

Clearly Zeus has not thought of that

[quiet lark]

do you not know the plot of the game

[fervent trail]

I do I beat the epilogue a few weeks ago

[grave vector]

i know that this is not the right channel

[quiet lark]