h1-victory-boasting

[dense wadi]

Flurry shot is best hammer, pray for cast damage from chaos

Cast damage is better than new cast stones

[quaint onyx]

makes sense!

much obliged!

[dense wadi]

No problem!

Sincerely, the Hades II Frog

[primal crown]

also abuse charon wells

+50% cast dmg is only 20 coins lmao

[dense wadi]

Yea, Charon keepsake in Styx/Elysium imo

Also mirage shot is nice, but I wouldn’t consider it nescessary

[hollow jacinth]

Snow burst is good

[dense wadi]

Yes, almost essential

Splash dash is an ok substitute

[quiet lark]

step 1. urge to krill
step 2. stop using ares call
step 3. use acorn on dad
step 4. practice more

[quaint onyx]

i have no idea why i went for area call ong

[west matrix]

that build didn’t make any sense at all but it’s my first win so i’m kinda proud !!

[dense wadi]

Lot of heroics!

Congrats on your first win as well

[west matrix]

i had the power that upgrade them every 3 fight

right before the temple

so it was kinda free to up them

[dense wadi]

Yeah

[west matrix]

this power is ridiculously strong

now time to win with my beloved shield of chaos

[quiet lark]

unfortunately, it has a bug where it randomizes your damage(idk how it works and what it does outside of this)

[west matrix]

oh interesting

maybe when it’s like fully upgraded the game bug and think your damage is back to common ?

[unreal laurel]

Oh interesting

[bold jolt]

movement speed moment

greater haste from styx

[quasi fern]

just got the absolute most dummy call build boons this run

[rancid geode]

?

[dense wadi]

Cast damage is mathematically better than getting +1 casts, because the damage affects all your casts

[rancid geode]

oh i c

[dense wadi]

Unless your doing the regen casts from the mirror

Then you want more bloodstones

[kind lichen]

first sub 9

i'm so bad at dad fight

prolly my best heroes too

[dense wadi]

Nice! Good rng with the braids too

[kind lichen]

yea the well luck was good this run

[golden peak]

i heard its pos sword week do you like my pos sword build

[strong ravine]

do you like my pos sword build

[golden peak]

Atleast it worked out for you

[bold jolt]

Kinda depends tbh
4th stone is better than a common chaos cast buff. It's also really good for utility

After the 4th stone you generally go for cast% tho

[dense wadi]

Yeah that’s why I said almost a little further up

Another nice thing about cast damage is the rarity affects it

Unlike the stones

[strong ravine]

epic shot > stone > rare/common shot

[dense wadi]

I would argue rare is still better than a new stone

At least imo

[strong ravine]

it's a choice you can make but most people prefer stone

[dense wadi]

Ye

[primal crown]

Also depends on how many stones you have already or nah

[dense wadi]

Yeah, the more stones you have the higher diminishing returns you get from new ones

[strong ravine]

if u have 4 stones id value a rare shot more

but assuming your additive isn't nonexistent 5th stone should be more than a common shot

[ember heart]

I mean the 4th stone would just be a damage increase of 33% right? So you can make the choice there, 5th would be 25%

[dense wadi]

Yeah and most rare cast damage boons are 40-50 percent in my experience

[strong ravine]

rare is like 45 to 60

common 30 to 40

epic 60 to 80

[ember heart]

So even most commons could be better than a 4th cast

[dense wadi]

Also your able to be lazier with damage

press the cast button less

[strong ravine]

no

stone is mult

[bold jolt]

splitting casts 2-2 provides better utility and more consistent damage, especially in the lernie fight and onwards

instead of like 2-1 when some stuff doesnt die to 1 cast anyways

even with a 40% boost or whatever

[hot dagger]

Extra stones and cast damage boosts are like peanut butter and jelly

[static lion]

big nem pb 💪

[dense wadi]

Dang! Good job

[west matrix]

3rd escape and 4 minute faster than my first one yesterday with styx blade, little proud ahah

[primal crown]

got double potted twice lmao

[primal crown]

yarn carry

[bold jolt]

why'd you take dc1 lmao could've just taken dc2

[primal crown]

funny

[brisk bane]

im very proud of this one

This one is better tho

[bold jolt]

the first screenshot is a stronger build lmao

based distant memory tho

[brisk bane]

Distant memory is my favorite on hera

[brisk bane]

The second one was literally the perfect run

[bold jolt]

first build has more damage lmao

[brisk bane]

Im aware of the damages

[shell nacelle]

wait that's 60 heat

jesus

[feral quiver]

earring carried tbh, 3:30 dad fight

got patty but I decided to go all damage and got jerky

[pallid sundial]

At that point if I was Hades I'd just tip my helmet and let you pass. You're balling too much to deserve to be stopped.

[brisk bane]

My run was going good and then i died

[bold jolt]

Incredibly based

That's a 1 hit dad fight isn't it

[feral quiver]

yeah, got too nervous

[bold jolt]

That's still incredibly good

[feral quiver]

thank god all the pom go to something good, would have been dead if it hit titan toppler

or high voltage

[brisk bane]

Question
What in the world is titan toppler

[feral quiver]

athena dash

[shell nacelle]

beat Zeus and Rama at 32 heat

Rama was modded tho so probably i should do an unmodded run

[dense wadi]

Modded as in guaranteed boons or what?

[bold jolt]

i'm pretty sure they modded it to remove the internal cooldown for thunder flourish

so that it'd do a lot more damage

[worldly cairn]

I just hot Hades to about 5% HP in his 2nd stage and i died

Im actually so angry with myself 😂

[golden peak]

Where is the epic drunk strike lvl 5 in my Eris runs

[brisk bane]

It be like that☠️

[feral quiver]

I forgot how hard sword is, but big number

[brisk bane]

they call me the speedster

[lunar peak]

this isn't new, but still it's good

[feral quiver]

Did your pom get screwed because jolted has better pom scaling

[lunar peak]

yeah, I did not know how to pom back then

but now I don't get the luck

I'm pretty sure I didn't even find eurydice that run

I just got so many epics

it's epic

[feral quiver]

God pride W

[lunar peak]

I still have god's pride

but zeus keeps screwing me with commons

ffs zeus, I got his keepsake, god's pride, what else do you need dammit

and the keepsake is maxed

seriously this game loves screwing me over with bad rarity

[feral quiver]

Common is fine but purple boon good

[lunar peak]

also, with how bad thunder flourish poms, I literally just get stuck with the damage

[feral quiver]

Pomming after lv3 is not necessary and over 6 is straight up bad

Unless some linear scaling boon like dio or pressure point

[lunar peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/867045762843934731/1167794658961789059/image.png?ex=6558a707&is=65463207&hm=5f15b093fac3880039fc77af650538603695fb1dc9332f17dc77a6a643b3232c&

and I had a worse base damage back then

seriously, maxed shield decreases luck

[lunar peak]

oh yeah this is also very big jolted and fast

[feral quiver]

For what it worth, this is my previous run

He really taunting me with legendary lmao

But still incredibly lucky

[lunar peak]

zeus being an asshole

his trial is one of the easier ones, so I often offend him just out of hating him

although he did help me with every single one of my winning runs, he is also responsible for all my losing runs

[feral quiver]

Zeus do be like that, lore accurate

[lunar peak]

yeah

athena also screws me over very often

she doesn't kill my runs mainly because she's not the important part

sure getting ddash is good, but

it's not run defining

[feral quiver]

You can try this and screw zeus (not my win screen)

[lunar peak]

plz translate

plz

let's see

aphro attack, pp, decently big dio spec

[feral quiver]

Dio special, curse of nausea + low tolerance

The rest is not that important, ferocious guard is kinda nice

[fading minnow]

how do you get that lucky- 😭

[feral quiver]

First, that is not my win screen and second, God Legacy and reroll is kinda good

If you really want to see lucky, you might want to look at this #h1-victory-boasting message

[dense wadi]

The heart rend for extreme overkill

[shell nacelle]

what Bananas said, yeah

i didn't completely remove the lightning cooldown but it's a lot less than vanilla

[dense wadi]

I see

Makes sense

[spare raven]

Call me Fisto the Mighty!

[dense wadi]

I even had epic special speed, explosive return, pressure points, etc
Very funny accidental sea storm build

[primal crown]

Sadly special speed only helps with how fast the shield comes out when pressing special

and if it did help how fast it hits then you would run into the icd I think

[dense wadi]

Does it not give more explosive return?

That’s why I took it

[primal crown]

I don't think it helps with how fast it comes back
Edit: it doesn't

[dense wadi]

Dang

Scammed ig

[feral quiver]

18:18:18, too bad the win screen show :19

[brisk bane]

I dont care that its low heat
I got 2 legendaries and probably the best hammers possible

[strong ravine]

sudden and what

[dense wadi]

I think thats dread flight

[strong ravine]

is that

[dense wadi]

from the image

[strong ravine]

dr3ead flight

truly yoptimal

[brisk bane]

Yes dread flight

Dreadlught is the best flame wheel killer promise

[strong ravine]

cshot:

[brisk bane]

Whoops

Its a good run for my standards atleast

[feral quiver]

Might as well go charged flight since beowulf has highest special damage out of the shields

[dense wadi]

charged shot my beloved

[brisk bane]

It was tempting but i needed it for the fates i think

[pallid sundial]

the fates be cruel, asking you to take dread flight of all things

GG nonetheless

[quaint onyx]

I FINALLY GOT A 32 HEAT W LETSGOOOOOOOOo

[dense wadi]

ALL WEAPONS SUB 10!

[ember heart]

Congrats

[dense wadi]

Achilles was so stressful

[dense wadi]

Thanks fellow frog

[strong ravine]

olympian favor gaming

[pallid sundial]

your cast fires a second In the name of Hades se damage

[dense wadi]

Epic hyper delivery

Also why Olympian favor?

Is that better than the more poms, boons, dae hammers, etc?

[primal crown]

nah

[dense wadi]

That’s what I thought too

[primal crown]

is either for the funny or a challenge

specially from jazz

[dense wadi]

Maybe it’s for better rush delivery rarities

[dense wadi]

Lol

[primal crown]

or pull off the "get more keys for more rolls at charon wells"

[dense wadi]

Oh yeah lol

[strong ravine]

it was for funny

[dense wadi]

Ah ok

[brisk bane]

No boon run✨

[quiet lark]

totally boonless, just ignore the tdash

and everything else

[brisk bane]

Shhh

You know what i mean

[quiet lark]

you can get true boonless though, theres even a reward for doing it

[dense wadi]

By reward, you mean a title

Still cool though

[quiet lark]

and the feeling of accomplishment and levelling up your shackle

[strong ravine]

boonless mirrorless 33 was the first hard thing i did in this game

cannot recommend

wasn’t fun

[dense wadi]

Now I wanna try

Dont do this to me

[strong ravine]

but it did start me on the journey of obtaining a semblance of skill

[quiet lark]

roomless when

[strong ravine]

onion mod

and no enemy mod

[shell nacelle]

what is it

[quiet lark]

title

[shell nacelle]

huh

wdym title

like ranks?

[quiet lark]

||100% boon/god free||
text at the win screen

[shell nacelle]

oh like "Big Shopping Trip, Too!"
?

[quiet lark]

yes

[shell nacelle]

ay ay ay

[dense wadi]

||100% Olympian Free||

[shell nacelle]

wait so by true boonless you mean never visiting a boon room ever, right?

[quiet lark]

i think so, or just having no boons by the end

[shell nacelle]

should be doable with fa and hestia and shackle

any heat required?

[quiet lark]

nope

[shell nacelle]

mmmm

[quiet lark]

frostwieldo did boonless mirrorless iirc on like 45

or maybe just the first part, no heat

[kind lichen]

you'll need ri for no mirror

the rest is up to u

[strong ravine]

no

[dense wadi]

You have to sell, its very difficult to skip mini-boss chambers

[strong ravine]

that’s impossible or at least requires insane rng

the standard boonless rules require you to never benefit from a boon

you can take a boon so long as it doesn’t benefit you

[shell nacelle]

with 1 key you can deactivate the mirror and have all pf the darkness refunded

[feral quiver]

Or just turn on ri4 for free heat

[quiet lark]

and save a key

[shell nacelle]

so like "ravenous will but never use cast"?

[strong ravine]

i guess

[kind lichen]

I didn't knew you can turn off mirror like that

[feral quiver]

You can get a meg voiceline for it

[shell nacelle]

for boonless or for emptying the mirror?

[feral quiver]

She’s like you’re trash with mirror bro

[quiet lark]

pov you helped the resource director

[shell nacelle]

ok but is there a list of what boons i can take or smth?

[quiet lark]

everything

[shell nacelle]

i guess if i never die i can take the athena defiance boons

[strong ravine]

it’s not that hard to figure it out

like

if you take a core

[shell nacelle]

same goes for ares

[strong ravine]

you can’t use that core

if you take urge to kill

you lose

if you take battle rage you r screwed

[shell nacelle]

oh yeah hestia is literally built for this

[strong ravine]

it’s theoretically possible but basically not

[hot dagger]

Isn't the rule that any boon you can't purge doesn't count against the boonless thing?

[strong ravine]

that’s for the title

this is for the standardized rule set

by the leaderboard

[hot dagger]

Oh, gotcha

[shell nacelle]

oh this is a speedrunning category

[strong ravine]

no

[shell nacelle]

not just a casual challenge

[strong ravine]

it’s a heat category

[quiet lark]

#h1-victory-boasting message

[shell nacelle]

huh

oh "33 heat true boonless"

gotcha

[shell nacelle]

ARTHUR

ARTHUR

how the-

HOW?!??

[strong ravine]

32 isn’t that hard

someone did it with gilga td0

it’s just an annoying rng category so nobody plays it

[shell nacelle]

gilga td0 true boonless 32 Heat?!

masochism

[shell nacelle]

wait, by td0 you mean "timer starts at 0 and never increases", right?

[strong ravine]

huh

no, why would that mean that

td0 as in tight deadline 0

[shell nacelle]

oh

well that doesn't seem that hard then

not that i would be able to do it

[strong ravine]

🗿

[strong ravine]

wrge

[golden peak]

The math says you can do 64 heat in 11 mins

[bold jolt]

that sounds about right

[hollow remnant]

ALL SUB10 BABYYYYYYYYY

[tulip wadi]

First win. Dionysus and Daedalus carried me.
The game has automatically pinned on the final screen the boons that have been the most useful to me. Is it a coincidence?

[feral quiver]

just get the boon

[primal crown]

"it will highlight anything above epic, any hammer, and anything above a certain pom level. the aspect and companion both count as legendary bc they're fully upgraded"

Took it from the speedrun discord

[strong ravine]

better pic

[quaint onyx]

i am now officially in love w beowulf

(chaos carried the entire damn run)

[dense wadi]

That build with mirage would’ve gone crazy

[bold jolt]

mirage shot at home

crazy chaos tho

[dense wadi]

Fr

[quaint onyx]

oh my bloody gods you're so right

blood and darkness

well i'll shoot for mirage shot next time ig!

[dense wadi]

Yeah, it’s bugged on Beowulf so it doubles damage

Another recommendation is charged shot for the hammer

It’s a better sudden rush

[quaint onyx]

mirage shot fr:

(best time by like 4 seconds)

[dense wadi]

Let’s go

[quaint onyx]

i have no idea how i had such good rng

3 duo boons + heart rend being offered several times

didnt pick it up since i didnt have any way to get crits except deadly reversal at the time

and i was tryna go for the arty legendary

[primal crown]

Never bother with it

[chilly ridge]

Almost 14k Beowulf, may be my highest score. I took lots of hits while looking at that damage counter x)

[strong ravine]

i just started rewatching and i forgot i was listening to wlr during this 🗿

[quaint onyx]

copy that

[dense wadi]

Arty legendary is nice but way to annoying and difficult to get

It’s nice when you have the recharging casts tho

[chilly ridge]

I've had lots of luck recently getting Arty legendary. I don't even go for it or run with God's legacy but I think I've had it 4 times in the last week (≈2 to 5 runs per day, not all cast focused)

[dense wadi]

I always seem to get it when I’m not doing a cast build, but never when I need it

[chilly ridge]

For Arty I always do: core, mark, pp/support, support/pp and then I hope but never roll for the legendary

As always it pays to be conservative in the boons you open up for

And since I don't care about time. I often run a lot of Styx paths to increase my chances of seeing the legendary

[quaint onyx]

does that actually work

i thought the dmg output from doom on the attack wouldnt be that good but i guess i was wrong

[fading minnow]

how do people clear in less than 20 minutes 😭

[dense wadi]

Lots of practice

[fading minnow]

makes sense

my record as of yet is like 22

[ember heart]

lots of it

[dense wadi]

I’ve gotten sub 9 but can’t get past sub 8

[fading minnow]

damnn

[dense wadi]

But don’t worry it prob took me like a year or two of consistently playing hades to get my first sub 10

On hera bow

[ashen elm]

hazard bomb gaming 💣

[chilly ridge]

thirty-something heroes vs Than

(I had +70% enemies from Chaos, which gave +70% cast damage after)

And a duel between Zeus and Hades. (Zagreus barely present)

[hollow jacinth]

Jesus epic rd with ap2

So juicy

[fluid inlet]

i love exclusive access

[quaint onyx]

why didn't the gods give me heart rend

[runic iron]

At least you didn't get Sweet Nectar lmao

[hollow remnant]

That's how I learned to stop opening possibility for other duos...
I still make this mistake tho lol

[quiet lark]

[insert how to speedrun hades youtube video]
the general timesaves for casual players are:
not fullclearing styx(a whole 5+ minutes saved)
better builds/rng for more damage and weaker enemies
knowing that time adds up even when the room is cleared(it still stops when fishing)
take free rooms(npc, charon, not harder rooms)
be more aggressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bxwSsTPubI&pp=ygUPc2xlZXBzb3VsIGhhZGVz

[dense wadi]

Wait

Was your best time modded

[strong ravine]

runcontrol

[dense wadi]

Ah ok

[strong ravine]

this ones unmodded though

[dense wadi]

I was so confused for a sec

[dense wadi]

Ye

Great run

lvl 10 flood flare

[fading minnow]

thank you - i think what's holding me back is i always avoid the free rooms and go for fighting and minibosses - ill try free rooms more

also what does [budget] delta chamber mean ?

[quiet lark]

free rooms doesnt save too much time, for casual play its better to just take the other rooms if you cant afford stuff at charon
budget delta chamber is rama special

[fading minnow]

ohhh ok - iirc rama is hidden aspect of bow ? or am i thinking of smth else

[quiet lark]

yes, it is bow

[fading minnow]

ohhh ok

[runic iron]

Just did a plume build on zag fist where whenever I called, I had over 100% dodge chance 😂

[quiet lark]

funny dodge build

[runic iron]

Unfortunately, I didn't get smouldering air, but the call gauge kept getting charged up because I could attack indefinitely 😂

[heady portal]

#h1-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat for discussion please :) thanks!

(im late im at work sowwy)

[feral quiver]

1:18 dad fight with 🍝 🛡️

[strong ravine]

jesus that damage

[feral quiver]

casual 10400 damage

[open finch]

Picked up jades again after some time to do a Yolo run and got my last 32

[fading minnow]

sea storm with tidal strike wouldve been insane 😭

[open finch]

Oh that's true; got it a little too late to retrofit it

[fading minnow]

[bold jolt]

that's just the same build but with extra steps lmao

[ionic egret]

didn't get rush delivery or all the duos i wanted but got lucky with the anvil 🙂

[dense wadi]

Crazy build either way

[primal crown]

Anvil gaming

[dense wadi]

Zeus on attack would have been nice though

[golden peak]

Based drink strik

[feral quiver]

who need meg when beo is so broken

[golden peak]

Why not mirage

[feral quiver]

I died with mirage chamber 4 because i sold the attack

Smol flare is so unplayable

[golden peak]

I have never encountered this infamous tiny flare

[feral quiver]

I’ve just checked, it was me who suck with flood flare

Only happened with passion or icy flare

[blazing wing]

I think this very lucky( level 13)

[empty herald]

sheesh

[gentle swan]

basically a win, took ~50s to beat heroes

[strong ravine]

what happened

[gentle swan]

*im fairly new to the game so i just run whatever i get extra darkness from
was rail
got rocket bomb first hammer
heard this combo is really good

its definitely is.

[strong ravine]

oh

yeah it is

i thought 50s heroes meant something was wrong

[gentle swan]

its good for me 😭

[strong ravine]

clockets is def pog tho

the base damage reduction from cluster isnt applied

so its a 400 damage nuke

[gentle swan]

400dmg + big crits + poseidon early dmg boost

kinda silly

• 50% from casts actually

fun

[quiet lark]

dstrike when

also, dont use shawl

[ashen anchor]

Ranged bonks

[quiet lark]

budget guan yu

[ashen anchor]

Definitely safer.

[quiet lark]

a couple things id recommend you change:

1. pom. styx isnt too much better than other biomes unless you clear most of the tunnel. pom is also random, meaning you can easily waste a lot of poms
2. no golden
3. use beo as intended(unintended by the devs), jazz will cry when seeing this

[strong ravine]

does safer in this instance mean significantly less safe

[ashen anchor]

I know the intended use, just felt like going for a special build.

[quiet lark]

explanation:more damage dealt=less damage enemies can deal

[ashen anchor]

I was already doing well, so pom was just to win even harder.

[strong ravine]

so basically this is super unsafe

cflight is pretty awful damage

[ashen anchor]

And tf do you mean by "no golden"?

[quiet lark]

@ distant memory best keepsake

[strong ravine]

u have golden touch

golden touch sux

[quiet lark]

golden touch(i think thats what its called) isnt too good

[molten minnow]

:D

[strong ravine]

i liked the part where i saw hermes and got mirage

[bold jolt]

you did get mirage

2 chaos shots!

[golden peak]

Is it tie

[strong ravine]

0.12s pb

[golden peak]

[fluid inlet]

i have won the luck championship

[strong ravine]

uhhhhh

is your game modded

[quaint onyx]

decided to try beowulf + stygian soul + trippy shot, good gods is this good

[fluid inlet]

idk how to install them

and this is my first run after epilogue so that could be smth

[strong ravine]

vicious skewer is incompatible with guan yu

[gentle swan]

fnuy dash build

[hollow jacinth]

Chain skewer as well

[gentle swan]

given guan yu basically has vicious skewer

unless its some other hammer im confusing it with

[feral quiver]

Guan yu has explosive skewer built in

[gentle swan]

ah, mb

[gentle swan]

ever so slightly a pb

[hollow jacinth]

[ashen anchor]

Sold the flood shot, met Ares for the first time. No slicing shot even after a roll 🙃

2 DDs lost in Elysium because mirage shot isn't so great without a cast boon

[feral quiver]

rare crop op

[fading minnow]

yippee (my first zero death defiance run)

[ember heart]

Not just pb, but for the first time ever I managed to defeat hades without getting hit

[primal crown]

Gg

Also damn lvl 11 and only 147 dmg

Common doom moment

[feral quiver]

Legacy moment

You go god pride for me solely because of doom

[ember heart]

I didn’t run into Eurydice and got divine dash in Styx I defeated heroes with one hp and I never had a pulse that high before

[gentle swan]

duo boon, athena dash and 5dash sounds brocken

also that was sketch

5 revives 😭

[bold jolt]

maybe if the doom did more damage it wouldn't be as close

[gentle swan]

lmao yeah

[ember heart]

I got great Athena call on the last bit so I was able to tank

[gentle swan]

tbh i only wonn that cuz of the dad hug strat

[gentle swan]

pretty... interesting build here

[quiet lark]

me where

[warm cosmos]

after a full year of not playing the game, and jumping striaght from heat 10 to heat 16 just to see, i got the final achievement!

[dense wadi]

Nice!

[gentle swan]

ever so slightly broken

[dense wadi]

Just a little bit

[gentle swan]

poseidon didnt give me extra boss dmg :((

blizzard and mirage with 5 cast made me lag 😭

[dense wadi]

Lol

[ivory sky]

blizzard shot can be fun

wish it inflicted chill though

seems so obvious

[quiet lark]

too much complexity

[strong ravine]

streak

[ember heart]

Yet another pb I’m improving

[quaint onyx]

my guy got obliterated so quick he's still yappin' after dying

[gentle swan]

miniscule heat is nice cuz you can skill solution just about any build

[ember heart]

And another pb, by more than a minute, if I can keep this up, I might get a sub 10 soon

Oh wait it’s just short of a minute

But still

[ember heart]

It is

And I only got a rare doom once in 5 attempts

[quaint onyx]

if only i didnt have damage control on

[bold jolt]

Why'd you take dc on beo lmao

[quiet lark]

couldve just slapped on td for free heat

[stray dagger]

First win. Drunk shield ftw.

[coral scroll]

bang!

[bold jolt]

based but also how'd you manage to get 16 titan blood before the first win lmfao

12 from all weapons and trading ambrosia, did you get like 90 keys and trade with the broker??

[ember heart]

3 from diamonds

[stray dagger]

This game sucked me in okay?

I just speedran maxing out shield

I love drunk shield :)

[bold jolt]

oh yeah diamonds that makes more sense

[bold jolt]

i mean i get that but also i forgot about diamonds so getting 90 keys before the first win is still a lot lmfao

but with diamonds it just 15 keys left so that makes way more sense

[stray dagger]

Yeah

Time to romance Thanatos

[strong ravine]

bruh

[west cargo]

Literally shredded enhanced hades. Oh and the chaos buff was like 80% special damage

So I was hitting crits for almost 800 sometimes

Lightning rod and splitting bolt were nice touches but I was tryna get lightning phalanx

[strong ravine]

we did not in fact get em next time

[west cargo]

Big oof

Also no lives lost which I’m happy about

[strong ravine]

at least im past the unmodded line

[feral quiver]

At least it wasn’t 5:00 or something

[strong ravine]

im so bad bro

[feral quiver]

Fwiw, I meg the skull all the time

[bold jolt]

oh bruh rip

still banger time tho

could've been 5:00.92

so it could be worse lmao

but amazing time still

tied for 11th with engrish lmao nice

[kind lichen]

doesn't everything die after phase 1

unlucky

[bold jolt]

it's supposed to

but sometimes ely enemies can be wonky and just dont

[dire hull]

beat super dad for the first time :D

was kinda skeptical of artemis zeus shield special but looks like it can kinda shred if you get the right stuff lol

[strong ravine]

i mean

zeus is gonna be better

especially at low lvl

[dire hull]

the double hit main one was helpful too to get more hangover for the headache

[strong ravine]

ur missing over a third of ur base damage

[dire hull]

o yea i know but

worked a lot better than i expected :p

[kind lichen]

anything works on Zeus special

[quaint onyx]

MY SECOND 32 HEAT LESSGO

[kind lichen]

nice!

[quaint onyx]

funnily enough heightened security was responsable for 2 death defiance uses

[kind lichen]

but uhh interesting pact

[quaint onyx]

honestly the bouldy ambiguity bonus carried the run tbh

[ashen anchor]

Approval process 🤮

[quaint onyx]

what is the free heat

oh

[kind lichen]

they mean you have hell mode without having hell mode

(hell mode always has hl1,lc1,js1,cp1 and pl)

so you have all four without pl

[quaint onyx]

ohhhh

my dookie brain took a moment to process that

[gentle swan]

exit wounds works pretty well for 5 cast hera w that hermes boon which makes enemies drop casts faster

[bold jolt]

Based special only rama

Banging time

[strong ravine]

this seed was so good

i was like

4:00 into 32

but i suck

[bold jolt]

I can tell lmao

[gentle swan]

special rama sounds funny

[strong ravine]

and also the skips stopped

[bold jolt]

I mean 33 and 34 combats suck for any Speedrun

[strong ravine]

it was particularly bad for me because they were blue men and it was rama and im not good at rama lol

[bold jolt]

Blue men suck lmao yea

Also rip heroes because no acorn huh

[strong ravine]

but i got like

3 ixs

[bold jolt]

Oh based

[strong ravine]

front half was so insane

halting lernie was halting

[gentle swan]

first beo run and its pb, who would have guessed :p

[winter scroll]

Not exactly boasting, just wanted to share this messy mishmash of a run where early "trash picks" and god-overload became an extremely powerful ME setup (with +285% damage). Ended up being my fastest Shield run despite 3-sack. Early game was an absolute mess. Random start gave me Athena, and I just wanted to scout ahead to see if ME was likely in this seed. So I was picking semi-random boons: Athena into Demeter, add random Zeus in shop just before forced Dionysus, coming out of Tartarus with 4 gods already and forcing 5th (Ares) in Asphodel. For Elysium, I figured we're going all out on Olympian Favor and more gods = more damage, therefore 6th god = Artemis (Pressure Points is a pretty good pommable). By Styx, the build had 7 Olympian gods and looked like a hot mess, but ended up working well, because by picking one or two correct boons from each god, it mostly avoided "chaff" trash boons. It also surprised me that Zeus can be useful as a "minimal" pick without All The Zeus or any of his core boons, because then he just gives you Billowing Strength for even more global damage.

[strong ravine]

i hate attack doom zeus

[bold jolt]

7 god pool is extremely based

[bold jolt]

clockets moment

[quaint onyx]

what rocket cluster bomb does to a prince of the underworld

decided to try out aspect of talos, and this combo was the first thing that i thought of, bc maybe the high % on aphro's attack would work well with the damage bonus from the magnetized attack

actually half decent time

[fleet brook]

Annoyed a little by the sloppy ending but oh well, got me my PB

[bold jolt]

you have the right idea for build making, but unfortunately it's still a 15 base attack punch that you have to do a sticky ass special in order to benefit from lmao

that's a pretty fat attack% tho lmao

not even close to missing sub8

ngl kinda insane the difference between 3 stone lernie and 4 stone lernie

and also no pink heads

and also having mirage

[quaint onyx]

ye that's true

dem's aspect just seems to do better in most situations

[quaint onyx]

used an aspect i had never used before, and two hammers i had never used before. had quite a lotta fun

[left pagoda]

Wtf

How many hours do you have?

[left pagoda]

Why😭

Will you ever 100% it

[quaint onyx]

ofc!

[left pagoda]

Kul

When did you start playing?

[quaint onyx]

my goals atm are 100%ing the achievments, getting at least dubs with 20 heat on each weapon, maxxing all keepsakes and companions, doing all prophecies, having fun and learning the game more in-depth

[quaint onyx]

uhhhh lemme check

[left pagoda]

I don't know what half of those things mean.

[quaint onyx]

i apparently purchased it on march 17th

[left pagoda]

2023?!

[quaint onyx]

but i recall i stopped playing for a reaaaaally long time

[left pagoda]

Ahhh

[quaint onyx]

i got back to playing in like

october?

[left pagoda]

I also stopped playing like for a year and a half

[quaint onyx]

first achievment i have is september 24 wow

[left pagoda]

I played it today for tge first time in a long time

Oh

The game is a genuine masterpiece

[quaint onyx]

ikr

[left pagoda]

I picked it up mostly because of the art style

[left pagoda]

Do you think they could somehow implement multiplayer in the sequel?

[quaint onyx]

that sounds awfully unlikely

and frankly id prefer if they didnt

[left pagoda]

Yea

I think like some kind of coop would be fun

At least interesting

[runic iron]

Silly Beowulf build with Stygian Soul

[quiet lark]

wdym why
heat 32 is fine

up to heat 50 id say for most players

those who go above are quite crazy

in case you wanted to know, my playtime is ||191.1 hrs||

[hard solar]

I'm probably over 800 hours by now. Such an easy game to just pluck up and play here and there.

[quaint onyx]

i hope my attack is strong enough now

[ember heart]

Plot twist, you’re using fists

[runic iron]

Well items stack?

[quaint onyx]

yes

was running dem

and i was going for heart rend

[quaint onyx]

im not sure if the bonuses are additive or multiplicative

my gut tells me its multiplicative

[kind lichen]

dmg sources in hades are additive

only multiplicative source is crit

which is a *3 multiplier

[quaint onyx]

but

then two cyclops jerkeys = 30% + 30% = 60%?

or is it

( x * 1.3 ) * 1.3

[kind lichen]

the former

[quaint onyx]

oh

[kind lichen]

there's a dmg formula doc in speedcord lemme find it

[quaint onyx]

ooooh nice

thank you mate

[kind lichen]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eWrbcMIPSAkFhfDHOtOKEmcYxGfHE5ctP2hBehXUEU4/edit#heading=h.rmbclq5x9iy7

credit to c_gull

[quaint onyx]

thanks c_gull

[quaint onyx]

getting myself the bounties and accidentally got a new PB lmfao, imagine if i didnt have EM3 on

[strong ravine]

dawg

315 into 31 with fountain patty than open

and a complementary instadarkness

i hate bow men

[bold jolt]

ely moment

[hollow jacinth]

You’re churning these out

Sub5 soon

[strong ravine]

🙏

[ashen anchor]

A lucky-ish run.

[quiet lark]

black out when

[unique hatch]

First 32 heat win. Felt good. Took me like 6-7 tries because I jumped up from 9 heat.

[quiet lark]

[winter scroll]

Finally got to experience the ultimate Poseidon run that kills enemies with pure Poseidon, and it was pure power. Gilgamesh, Tidal Dash, Razor Shoals, Greatest Reflex, was enough to carry the whole run. Ended up with some nice extras like Typhoon Fury and Cold Fusion, but didn't really need any of that. Never got Sea Storm, didn't need it either. It was surprising how much damage pure Poseidon can deal. This was very safe too.

[quiet lark]

my gilg run with tdash was very similar, though what i did was tdash+breaching cross, and then held attack and dash and as a result won.

just imagine if you had splitting sea storm

[strong ravine]

no lr

[winter scroll]

I've had some ludicrous Sea Storm runs and I usually try to get that. This was just a rarer case of failing to set it up

[golden peak]

ohhhh

[bold jolt]

Big gaming

[golden peak]

First time I'm seeing the victory screen in like 3 weeks

[winter scroll]

Accidentally started with Infernal Soul instead of Stygian Soul, and got a nice reminder of Lightning Rod and why you should use it. Beautiful AFK murder.

[digital jackal]

I run stygian 90% of the time and yeah I miss Lighting Rod

[winter scroll]

Gotta boast about the boon luck in this run. Got every relevant duo and legendary in my god pool, and the power level was off the charts, even before Rush Delivery. All the awesome things don't fit on the screen. Also opened my eyes to Trippy Shot with Zeus duo and legendary, surprisingly good damage and was a perfect fit for the hit-and-run style of Aspect of Zeus (or more like "run circles around enemies" style).

[strong ravine]

no er

[winter scroll]

Eh?

[strong ravine]

explosive return

[winter scroll]

It was on offer early, and I regretted taking Charged Shot over it

But does it do very much?

[strong ravine]

er is top 2 hammer

cshot is better for anyheat but er is a necessity at heat

[gentle swan]

not a bad run for how bad my luck and decisionmaking was

would be nicer if poseidon offered me his cast instead of fishing points

twice

[strong ravine]

phalanx is better than flood for sure on pos

[gentle swan]

mirage shot tho,,,

also common lv2 exit wounds didnt do a lot

thank god for the existence of chaos, made my casts deal like 3x the damage

[strong ravine]

u couldnt get mirage

no arty core that opens it here

[gentle swan]

kinda sucks since artemis core boons wouldnt do a lot here

i guesss i could have gone for her special

[strong ravine]

i m ean

deadly strike would have been a lot better than tempest

or dio spec

[gentle swan]

took dio spec cuz his other boons were trash, and tempest just because tbh

[gentle swan]

honestly i just took anything cuz getting common strong drink mid elysium wont do much either

[quiet lark]

if you dont like anything, just take the highest rarity/nonpommable and purge it later

especially useful for underworld customs

[minor widget]

Did someone say liver failure

336~ damage per second

[mighty harness]

I'm getting up there in heat!!! Just starting out with getting into higher heats.

Best run I've ever done with the fists

That draining cutter is really the MVP here

[mighty harness]

How TF did you clear in less than 10 min

[minor widget]

What? No, that's my best time

That run was 22 minutes

My 9 minute run was the signature Eris Cluster Rockets Artemis Special set

This is that run

[bold jolt]

10 mins is pretty doable as long as you have the meta build, mirror, and pact
at that point it's just like doing runs and getting in practice; it'll happen at some point

without a good build, mirror, or pact then it's significantly more difficult but still doable

[feral quiver]

not even close

[golden peak]

I can't even beat regular Hades

[strong ravine]

u literally just did

[golden peak]

With 3 DDS and 50% DMG reduction

Doesn't count

[feral quiver]

just get a ton of damage

The best defense is a good offense

the speedrunner way

[strong ravine]

meanwhile ri2 ap2 js0 cp0 em3

[feral quiver]

welp. I'm not doing the speedrunner pact anytime soon, em4 ri0 ap0 is more fun

except the em4 part

[golden peak]

That's why 45 heat best

[feral quiver]

fact

unless you're retrash, his game is bugged so em4 is always on

[feral quiver]

ap2 was just an option

[golden peak]

you steal all our luck

[feral quiver]

I've just realized I left legacy on, have no idea i got that epic aphro lmao

tbh, I've won at patty and athena call, splitting bolt is just a cherry on top

[primal crown]

Just get the boons moment

[golden peak]

Not fair

[feral quiver]

just stop playing for a few day, the game rewards you so you would play more

beat the matrix moment

[golden peak]

I didn't play at all last week

[golden peak]

thank for letting me rebelieve in ap2 luck

rare false side boiling blood W scream emoji scream emoji

[strong ravine]

i hate this game

[hollow jacinth]

ely 🙂

[strong ravine]

dad pb

[bold jolt]

Big juice

[strong ravine]

my game decided to minimize in the middle

so i lost time in p1p3

[bold jolt]

Oh lmao rip

How'd that happen

[strong ravine]

zoom lol

[bold jolt]

Oh lmfao

[strong ravine]

my physics teacher started the class like 10 minutes early for some reason

i was on lunch

[bold jolt]

Unfortunate

This is why you don't join zooms early

[strong ravine]

but i also forget

[bold jolt]

Simply do not

[strong ravine]

true

[gentle swan]

cant tell if it was terrible luck or decisionmaking but got absolutely nothing i wanted

(took artemis cast in styx as a last hope of getting more dps on dad)

[strong ravine]

we ended up with true shot on hera so i think some decision making was off here

[gentle swan]

as i said, true shot was only there cuz it was more singletarget dps on dad

[strong ravine]

than what

[gentle swan]

flood shot

[strong ravine]

well how did we get flood shot

[gentle swan]

wdym

[strong ravine]

did u not start crush shot

[gentle swan]

i wanted to do mirage shot shenanigans..

[hollow jacinth]

Those are only on Beowulf and dio cast hera

[minor widget]

What was supposed to be a fun Arthurphus build...

Actually devolved into a Lightning Rod build.

[autumn mesa]

1 HP 0 DD's... nuts

[quiet lark]

0 seconds on td when

[silent oracle]

Nope, I did not accidentally start athena, why would I do that? :3

[feral quiver]

beowulf hard

even got 33,34 skip

[bold jolt]

i mean just because you got 2 good skips doesn't mean the game didn't cuck you the rest of the run lol

still a good time

[feral quiver]

iirc, 3 rat room and a lot of 3 waves room

2 witches maybe, mirageless aspho and ely hypersprint

[bold jolt]

yeah lmao

def not great rng on that one

[feral quiver]

not even close

[bold jolt]

gamer

nice poms

[feral quiver]

I can hear jazz screaming in the background

[bold jolt]

where poms

how did you end up with lvl 4 tdash but lvl 2 flare lmao

[feral quiver]

A bunch of athena boons early on, just unlucky ig

[bold jolt]

oh lmao rip

[golden peak]

300 hp + 50% dmg reduction + extra dd

[golden peak]

streak

[feral quiver]

definitely an ely moment, almost screwed up dad

[primal crown]

Ares call carry

[ashen anchor]

Extra 0.2s duration for full charge 👌

[minor widget]

ALCOHOL POISONING

[summer trail]

so many crits

[gentle swan]

this was literally the perfect 64heat seed

first 2 rooms i had epic zeus special and explosive return

[bold jolt]

That's assuming ap2 doesn't screw you with choices lmao

[feral quiver]

Splitting bolt

[quaint onyx]

accidentally skipped the victory screen lul
run absolutely ruined by a bad styx (sack was in the penultimate door)

[meager oasis]

finaly beat heat 14 with a sword

[molten minnow]

i cant believe i slept on the adamant rail for so long

[strong ravine]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[quiet lark]

some MAJOR things you should consider changing:
better builds
acorn dad
did you know that you can switch the mirror effects? USE DARK FORESIGHT PLEASE
although, that dad seems to have gone pretty well considering your overall clears

[molten minnow]

gotcha, ty 🙏

tho, what builds would you reccomend for the rail?

[strong ravine]

i think that just having zeus attack would make this build 200x better

but for in depth eris build just use this https://docs.google.com/document/d/13lSPIUsiJGr5vApeon6ayX9N4-UlvGHWrCGdYAxhvHM/edit#

[golden peak]

red

[bold jolt]

red

nice aspect of charged shot

[golden peak]

indeed

[feral quiver]

The correct way to play zeus shield

[quaint onyx]

i always looked down on dio's boons but i swear to the gods this build was soooo much FUN

black out just melted thru dad

[ember heart]

Why can’t I just get divine dash, it would’ve been such a nice run…

There was also a lot of witches summoned by hades, i could’ve made full use of that duo if I had divine dash (because I still didn’t get the timing down for dash striking into special)

[feral quiver]

no splitting bolt

[ember heart]

New dash only pb, 32 heat coming soon

[feral quiver]

unmodded pb feature 4 sack

[bold jolt]

4 sack moment

[feral quiver]

ruthless reflex kinda saved me here, 3 min dad is earring speed

at least i got jolted in the third tunnel

[pallid sundial]

Got to dad on my cursed 44 heat runs ! And got promptly stomped, but y'know. I'm already happy about the honor of getting destroyed by the god of the dead.

[torpid pivot]

Finally able to clear C2Dad (FreshFile modded to skip directly to Hades) with the twin fists

[winter scroll]

Not sure if boast-worthy, but I've been looking forward to this for a long time. THREE legendary/duo boons in one selection.

[primal crown]

Gg

[quiet lark]

smh not even 3 duos, pathetic

[torpid pivot]

Still had the practice HP on (P2.2 is a nightmare, it's almost mandatory to practice late phases well enough), although having more HPs means that non-PL shield bubble procs later

Already been done by Vorime and am not good enough with it to not require an even bigger grind. Passing this one

[minor widget]

Guaranteed Epic + Double Poms

Synergized with spammable nukes and higher poisoning

[burnt ember]

Niiiiiiice

I was playing pretty poorly because I only have Joy-Cons but I got through Dad hitless! This build went CRAZY

[minor widget]

Zeus shield is pretty bomb

[minor widget]

PP power

I also got the funny rare finish-title

[quiet lark]

100% boon free when

[minor widget]

BEYBLADE BEYBLADE

[quiet lark]

lucky
ive done at least 5 achilles runs without a single hunting blade

[minor widget]

That's absurd

I got my Hunting Blades in Asphodel, they were giving me Zeus Dionysus and Athena in Tartarus

[dense wadi]

One of my funniest builds ever. Zag cast only. No mirage shot, but fully loaded was a nice surprise. EM4 too!

[hollow jacinth]

Tbh fully loaded is probably better here anyway

[strong ravine]

yeah since snurst is like the same damage as the cast🗿

[dense wadi]

Cast actually did surprising damage with the bonus from chaos and shackle

Def not a viable build though

[feral quiver]

styx shredder, have no idea why it took so long

[primal crown]

Rats o' clock?

[feral quiver]

maybe 2 or 3, and I missed meg on anthony

miss the anvil moment

[bold jolt]

Why would you anvil

[feral quiver]

triple bomb rocket bomb, just a fun gamble for clockets

[minor widget]

Absolutely disgusting

Do it again

[strong ravine]

i have

like

80 something times

this was number 87

this run is proof u can get 5 bad splits and still sub6

[bold jolt]

idk man the aspho split looks good to me

and the ely one

and the styx dad one

[strong ravine]

styx was 45s

dad 36

aspho 119

[bold jolt]

yeah those look good to me lmao

[strong ravine]

ely 131

theyre all pretty bad

[bold jolt]

okay buddy

[strong ravine]

a good aspho is like

low 10x

and a good styx is like

low 3x

and a good dad is like sub30

[violet bloom]

wdym a good dad is like sub20

[strong ravine]

true

i hadnt thought of that

[ember heart]

Y’all don’t defeat dad in 3 seconds?

[lunar peak]

https://youtu.be/JSOxGa-uJqk

dad defeated in slightly more than 3 seconds

[minor widget]

Yippee boonless

[quiet lark]

hoarding funny

[hollow jacinth]

dio beo my beloved

[bold jolt]

Dio beo go boom

[hollow jacinth]

dad go poof :(

[ember heart]

How can you get boonless? Isn’t a boon forced every run or am I just unlucky?

[minor widget]

You could Purge it for coin-

[ember heart]

Oh true

Thanks

[minor widget]

You could get screwed in Styx though

If you're forced to grab an olympian in the tunnels and don't encounter a Pool of Purging

[ember heart]

True…

[minor widget]

But this run was great- Hoarding Slash + Shadow Slash + Sisyphus = 1025 on backstab

Shadow Slash + Sisyphus is already insane, can easily net you 900 on backstab

[ember heart]

Damn

[minor widget]

I am aware, it's an additive effect

I mean yeah

Purged all boons

Barely made purchases, it was a no-heat run, so I didn't really need any buffs

[summer trail]

can you tell that I was planning to do a slicing shot, blade dash and ares aid run

merciful end go brr

also I only got hit once in the hades fight

[winter scroll]

Pulled off an incredible Eris build with Sea Storm, Double Strike, pom-powered Razor Shoals, Delta Chamber, and perfect support boons. People often say that you shouldn't take Tempest Strike, but the more I play, the more I like taking Tempest Strike, because of how perfectly it works with Razor Shoals and Sea Storm. This was hugely satisfying even before Sea Storm.

[hollow jacinth]

Beautiful

[quiet lark]

splitting where

[strong ravine]

tdash zeus attack where🗿

[quiet lark]

tstrike>lstrike because sea storm funny

pretty sure sea storm procs splitting

[strong ravine]

on this build id still prefer them swapped

[quiet lark]

assumming you dont get screwed over by the knockback, all pos wouldve done better with splitting and sea storm

[quiet lark]

this is a massive win
watch me die to em4

[bold jolt]

Massive gaming

When 64

[feral quiver]

a few more hundreds hour??? furies is hard

[golden peak]

just 2 more heat

like

just an extra middle management

[feral quiver]

HL7 is free

[golden peak]

i thought that was chaos shield for a second

[feral quiver]

no thank, I can't even play cshot 50

[golden peak]

you can defnitely do like 55 in an hour

[feral quiver]

doubtful, I stuck at ely and heros with cshot, never go pass that

[golden peak]

cant suck more than me

[quaint onyx]

i like how i wanted a deadly reversal build but then dio offered an attack trade and i was just like "why not" and for some reason i also went for a slicing shot build too lmao

[hollow jacinth]

sub 7 rama !

[strong ravine]

poggers

yours has much more sane splits than mine

[hollow jacinth]

lol yeah you had wr pace fronthalf

[strong ravine]

it probably was a sub5 seed

[strong ravine]

my keyboard disconnected in the middle of dad

[hollow jacinth]

F

[bold jolt]

F

[ember heart]

F

[dense wadi]

F

[quiet lark]

F

[strong ravine]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779451865399368/1176345182472503356/image.png?ex=656e87d2&is=655c12d2&hm=c2d275408a75d7541217a0af73a59b2dd426c3683048504c9db14a0073dfe6a9&=

[quiet lark]

is that a kiss of styx i see

did you mystery into it

[strong ravine]

no i bought it

[feral quiver]

pride and still common flare

[strong ravine]

epic rd tho

[quiet lark]

ares call

[bold jolt]

that's dad call

[strong ravine]

11 from 100

[quiet lark]

sub 6

[kind lichen]

chaos egg mod ftw

and wells

[bold jolt]

dio beo gaming

[exotic jewel]

Just beat the game for the first time, I had been consistently getting to the final boss but losing at the last stage, but I had been doing it without death defy because I (for some reason) thought I had to rebuy it every run, after learning I didn't need to do that and buying all 3, I beat the game first try with one death defy lol

[feral quiver]

to all the chiron haters, I also hate chiron

[golden peak]

Aspect of rod

[bold jolt]

aspect of rod

[hot dagger]

In rod we trust

[hollow jacinth]

Cracked build

[kind lichen]

yup, savestated it for practice cuz I suck at dad fight

[hollow jacinth]

I would’ve taken acorn into styx ngl