i think i have something like that though
#h1-victory-boasting
strong ravine
ivory sky
best flood shot ever. plus greater recall and double strike
wave pounding would've been nice but this melted him fast enough anyway
and this was a 5 sack lol
viscid plaza
best flood shot ever. plus greater recall and double strike
Poseidon cast?
magic bane
best flood shot ever. plus greater recall and double strike
What opened blizzard?
winter scroll
This was a somewhat unusual one: Zagsword hybrid Zeus/Athena setup. The crucial run-defining boons don't all fit into the victory screen, and the story of how the build evolves is not communicated by it. Random start on Zagsword. Picked Zeus Dash to see if I can make it strong via lightning bolt boons and avoid chain lightning in my build. Picked common Athena Attack for safety and Deadly Reversal. Zeus Dash eventually paid off because I found Double Strike and Zeus Legendary, resulting in pretty damn good DPS from the dash alone. Attack eventually paid off when I found Deadly Reversal. Note that this is Zagsword which wants to spam Attack, so Flurry Slash and Piercing Wave are perfect hammers for it. The resulting soup of flat damage (Zeus, Piercing Wave, Support Fire, etc.), multiplied by RD and crit %, produced huge DPS in Region 4 and on the final boss. However, the build only came together in the middle of Region 3, and had poor DPS until then. Definitely not suitable for speedrunning, but can be fun to put together.
strong ravine
how
also how do u play with flurry it’s so bad
i tried it once
mega annoying
dusk yacht
strong ravine
checks out
dusk yacht
checks out
yeah lmao
ivory sky
What opened blizzard?
demeter's aid, swapped it out afterwards
winter scroll
also how do u play with flurry it’s so bad
By holding the attack button and occasionally dashing. Zagsword with Flurry Slash executes one full combo + dash-attack for each dash cooldown (unless you have epic Greatest Reflex, in which case you can spam dash a lot harder). When you're under attack, you release the attack button and just dash for safety. This works okay with Zeus Attack, Hangover Attack, Support Fire, and Piercing Wave, which all reward high attack speed. I find this to be significantly easier and more consistent than the "recommended" Nemesis dash-attack spam, because aiming dash-strikes on Stygius is unreliable, it feels like they "miss" far too often for my taste
I don't really like this, but feels like the least bad way of meleeing with the sword. Might need more practice
magic bane
your movement keys just have to be fast with sword dash strikes
winter scroll
Screenshot selection bias. Also a lot of these RDs are from Region 4 shop. Mine aren't exactly speedruns 😅
strong ravine
you’re on controller right
dash strikes are supposed to be pretty shrimple on controller
warm notch
auto aim op
strong ravine
on nem
winter scroll
It still misses a lot. I even use slowhacks to observe the behavior and it's just inconsistent somehow. Will recheck on next sword run
winter scroll
Something to practice, I suppose
I like when they pick a Chaos curse to lose health on attack and proceed to attack anyway, going down to 1 HP
strong ravine
I like when they pick a Chaos curse to lose health _on attack_ and proceed to at...
114 lunge gud
you can’t die from those curses
so u basically always take
hard solar
Credits in 11 runs. No restarts or other shenanigans. Now to do it on Hell Mode...
magic bane
sword runs are so fun to watch
hard solar
This was bow after the first run.
golden peak
finished shield 40
sharp echo
This is not even close to ideal Clockets setup. But man, did it melt Heroes, Styx, and Dad quick.
strong ravine
This is not even close to ideal Clockets setup. But man, did it melt Heroes, Sty...
it’s good enuff
eris deadly flourish fine
plenty of additive
sharp echo
it did give me an amazing sense of a power trip. But I know there's still a lot to be improved into it
sharp echo
I was SO close to near perfection....
I got no chance to get Impending Doom.
Dash proccing Doom is a lot better but it does make for very reckless Dad fights.
Finally reached my first cap.
magic bane
Dash proccing Doom is a lot better but it does make for very reckless Dad fights...
that's the whole point
sharp echo
Need Epic Reflex to have 1 extra dash to dodge away 
sharp echo
8 Casts. Dad felt all those Snow Bursts and Exit Wounds while decaying.
One of the best Hera runs I've ever done.
magic bane
zagbow is fun
primal crown
8 Casts. Dad felt all those Snow Bursts and Exit Wounds while decaying.
First time I've seen master caster
sharp echo
I guess it's a title when getting so many cast stones
Honestly I will always love Snow Bursts (Killing Freeze is a bonus) and Exit Wounds on Hera
little prairie
8 Casts. Dad felt all those Snow Bursts and Exit Wounds while decaying.
Getting all 3 big damage sources from casts on hera feels very nice.
Quick reload too?beautiful
sharp echo
indeed
That run was so stacked I cannot highlight everything
I should've highlighed the Reload
over Killing Freeze
magic bane
reload doesn't do much besides open Lego
sharp echo
It does a lot when some of your damage comes from Exit Wounds and reloading Hera
little prairie
reload doesn't do much besides open Lego
Does a lot against daf
Dad
Gotta go end to really enjoy when a build comes together
*Em4 these non sending messages are really annoying
left ridge
I guess it's a title when getting so many cast stones
Most people here don't get it because other messages have priority
viscid plaza
I also had poseidon boon that did bonus dmg for slamming enemies into walls, this was a really fun and easy run
glass cargo
no heat run but i had double legendary boons so thats cool
little prairie
And thanks to granny
vernal shadow
Very weird win just now.
Started with Chaos Egg for Tart and Asph, then forced Dio, then went Earing. Ended up getting Athena Legendary instead of Dio legendary, but I made it work
viscid plaza
granny power
bUt tHaTs tHe mEmE bEaM rEeE
vernal shadow
So either I tied my best Spear time EXACTLY or it's a new record but the thing bugged and didn't display the New Record! thing. I'm still happy regardless, cus I'm not that good with the Spear!
I got Flurry Jab in the first room (like when you drop down) so at least that went well. Also only lost 1 DD, cus I only had 2 going in
Also, got a stack of Clears now haha
strong ravine
So either I tied my best Spear time EXACTLY or it's a new record but the thing b...
it doesnt show new record for per-weapon records
vernal shadow
Ohhh
Ok
Wait- how on earth do I have a better clear time with the SPEAR than the Rail or the Shield?!
Bruh
Time to fix that, Dark Thirst be danged lol
little prairie
Gogogo
vernal shadow
Not yet, have some irl stuff to do
ivory sky
+75% from RD +20% from wave pounding + 17% from urge to kill and sometimes +100% from battle rage
strong ravine
+75% from RD +20% from wave pounding + 17% from urge to kill and sometimes +100%...
battle rage doesnt apply to cast
only atk/spec
little prairie
Wouldn't really apply to dad much either way lol
Good beo is good beo tho
More lightning than you usually get graced with
Too bad about sea storm not working with flood flare
vernal shadow
+75% from RD +20% from wave pounding + 17% from urge to kill and sometimes +100%...
How do you stand Beowulf.
Wait nvm I'm baised against it lol
vernal shadow
Too bad about sea storm not working with flood flare
F
vernal shadow
Jesus
warm notch
why dont you like oneshotting everything that moves 
vernal shadow
why dont you like oneshotting everything that moves <:thanthink:6692460041425387...
My main experience with Beowulf was doing it with all 4 levels of the Mirror disabled, as a haha funny thing. Took me like 80+ runs but I got it
I brought receipts
There
magic bane
My main experience with Beowulf was doing it with all 4 levels of the Mirror dis...
oh that was you
why
warm notch
ah yes castpect but without the cast
strong ravine
wonder how bad it is
vernal shadow
wonder how bad it is
It was horrible lmao
warm notch
ngl sounds like an hourglass angle
vernal shadow
0/10 experience, would not recommend
vernal shadow
ngl sounds like an hourglass angle
A wha
warm notch
like use charons keepsake to just buy a ton of bloodstones
bold jolt
That'd be the Dio beo dream except for the fact that ri forces infernal
vernal shadow
like use charons keepsake to just buy a ton of bloodstones
I never thought of that. Dang it
vernal shadow
That'd be the Dio beo dream except for the fact that ri forces infernal
Isn't Infernal what most people use? Or am I dumb
strong ravine
jesus i havent seen em1 lernie arena in ages
warm notch
only dio uses stygian
warm notch
okay this is kinda cheating
strong ravine
okay this is kinda cheating
good pace
i see u went the normal people route
ok im locked in now lol
vernal shadow
Oh no 
warm notch
well that styx dad was awful
maybe hourglass not stonks 
4 sack and 0 braids or stones
strong ravine
that damage tho
warm notch
ri4 epic pash flare and rare rd not cheating at all
strong ravine
now for boonless mirrorless
bold jolt
Not again
vernal shadow
N o
strong ravine
wouldnt be bad on low heat
warm notch
would be fine on bestia
bold jolt
Fo2 js3 cloner seeker witches
vernal shadow
Fo0?
warm notch
forced overtime
strong ravine
i was really bad at the time
it took me like 130 tries
idkman
unmodded clockets
idkman dc2
angel said 60 beowulf was awful
they don’t
widecharon3
vernal shadow
Lmao
That's what all of mine are cus I'm on console
ivory sky
lol thanks artemis
obviously hunting blades came first. second day in a row I had a 5 sack
golden peak
sword done
brazen minnow
Eris clockets are busted
jagged rose
Indeed
brazen minnow
Lazy SS of ME run
Also sub min hades but even closer that time
wish I had that speed run mod thing jazz has
But console so oh well
hollow jacinth
i threw 
bold jolt
Unfortnite
drowsy whale
First 40 heat win with the bow! 🎉
primal crown
Funny orange boon
drowsy whale
-2 HL +2 JS was very vital, but also starting with Athena instead of Aphrodite. The additional defense you get from Athena is just too good!
sharp echo
20 seconds is so goddamn long
drowsy whale
20 second refresh in a boss fight that lasts 2 minutes means it's basically a 2nd acorn.
Okay actually the boss fight is probably closer to 1 minute than 2 minutes.
kind lichen
fully loaded came in clutch in styx
drowsy whale
I have no sense of time.
drowsy whale
fully loaded came in clutch in styx
Artemis is probably the most fun legendary! ^^
sharp echo
is it just me or does EM3 make Heroes actually more dangerous than Hades? It's like after I get past through Heroes, everything goes a bit smoother and it's rare that I'd die to Hades himself unless my situation is that dire
drowsy whale
Yeah it does. The 3 heat they give you is definitely justified.
wary brook
Artemis is probably the most fun legendary! ^^
Huge catch ???
winter scroll
is it just me or does EM3 make Heroes actually more dangerous than Hades? It's l...
It depends. I found EM3 Heroes easier than non-EM Heroes on many builds, and tougher on some builds. Still trying to figure out what makes them seem easy sometimes. Definitely like not getting sniped from offscreen. Chariot bombs are much easier to avoid.
outer locust
I thought she didn't work on him
bold jolt
She does
Not that lmao
You need another companion that can be used against him then talk to him a run later or something
Just grab Skelly's and you'll be able to
outer locust
Ah. Yeah I haven't used Skelly's at all
bold jolt
Yeah
outer locust
Oh thank god
outer locust
Fists might be easiest if you do the Hermes dodge strats
bold jolt
Assuming a good attack
outer locust
Yeah you should do that. It's super fun lol
little prairie
Dodge, safe for 2 seconds, dodge the next one, safe for 2 seconds
With a nice global boost
violet bloom
choked the hades fight
little prairie
Eyy, another infernal trippy beo enjoyer.
paper bramble
I was FINALLY able to get this setup on Achilles Spear. I wish I had been able to get Dio's legendary as well.
Still it destroyed Em4 Hades
bold jolt
Good build
outer locust
I was FINALLY able to get this setup on Achilles Spear. I wish I had been able t...
This looks so fun. I love Ice Wine
paper bramble
yeah pumps out a lot of dmg
paper bramble
This looks so fun. I love Ice Wine
it's safer with Hera's Bow cuz with the spear u need to get Ice wine before scint feast
but u get more dmg with spear
outer locust
Plus I feel like Achilles would also give you more maneuverability
paper bramble
yeah
bold jolt
it's safer with Hera's Bow cuz with the spear u need to get Ice wine before scin...
Mirage shot bug also effects trippy on Hera bow so that's fun
But Achilles has the funny 150% boost
paper bramble
Mirage shot bug also effects trippy on Hera bow so that's fun
yeah I just found that out, I'll be trying that soon
i want to be done with my bounties cuz I wanna do higher heat lvls but it just takes a while
and also not enough time
strong ravine
gg
vernal shadow
Still not my fastest shield time, but only by like 12.5 seconds
vernal shadow
Heart of Stone carried 🔥🗣️
Real
vernal shadow
Heart of Stone carried 🔥🗣️
On a serious note what does that even do
outer locust
This is that Hunting Blades build I was telling Maggs about
vernal shadow
This is that Hunting Blades build I was telling Maggs about
Niceeeee
outer locust
Got Fully Loaded mixed up with Vicious Cycle lmao
sharp echo
The dream is HB, MS, VC, and FL in one run.
vernal shadow
FL?
outer locust
Fully Loaded
vernal shadow
Oh
winter scroll
This surprised me with amazing Poseidon DPS despite missing certain key things. Spent a long time looking for Sea Storm which never appeared. Pure Poseidon, with perfect Hermes boons and Smair, was able to produce tremendous output (mostly via Tidal Dash). Even though melee didn't do much damage, dash-attacks were at least important for controlling the positioning, ensuring that Tidal Dash actually hits the target. Poseidon Attack is there because it opens Sea Storm (which I didn't get) and for more knockback for Razor Shoals.
viscid plaza
Ice wine was a prophecy, so was twin shot. But it was pretty fun and easy
I still suck at charge shot though.
outer locust
Ice Wine is the best Duo spell after HB IMO
viscid plaza
Smair
little prairie
I think they mean cast related
little prairie
Ice Wine is the best Duo spell after HB IMO
It's very nice on trippy shot. The delay is kind of annoying on flare, but probably worth if going for just clear or heat
strong ravine
This surprised me with amazing Poseidon DPS despite missing certain key things. ...
epic rd +3 dashes means good dash
and beaver and shoals
winter scroll
beaver?
winter scroll
Breaking Wave did a ton of work in Region 4, and Shoals did quite a bit of work against normal enemies
Too bad neither works on bosses
primal crown
what boss are you fighting that doesn't move
outer locust
Probably Ball or Megagorg
winter scroll
Hmm... My brain already thinks of Shoals as "damage when you push enemy away", forgot that it also works when they move
strong ravine
shoals is huge damage especially with rd
and beaver cleans up styx
the only issue with that build is uhhh
magic bane
This surprised me with amazing Poseidon DPS despite missing certain key things. ...
bro's got dark foresight premium
vernal shadow
Beaver????
strong ravine
breaking wave
vernal shadow
Wha
strong ravine
major goal for achilles
vernal shadow
Noted ig
strong ravine
because it lets u clean styx up really easy
winter scroll
I don't see how Poseidon attack is an issue here. Out of all the gods in my pool, only Zeus Attack could have been slightly better, but I never found enough Zeus for that to pay off, and the idea was to get Sea Storm, where Poseidon Attack becomes way better
Spear damage is pathetic to begin with
strong ravine
all of the other gods in ur pool would have been better
winter scroll
Not if I get Sea Storm, which was the whole point
strong ravine
achilles super soaker
the thing is
atp zeus attack with splitting bolt is just better
winter scroll
Wasn't going to happen in this run because I got Zeus way late. Poseidon offered his epic attack practically at the start (after Tidal Dash), there was no natural Zeus in Region 1
strong ravine
zeus attack is the 2nd best attack for achilles
vernal shadow
I did Athena attack and did just fine
strong ravine
assuming u get flurry
strong ravine
I did Athena attack and did just fine
the % bonuses other than arty aren’t very good
vernal shadow
Plus the thing has so much reach that even without Flurry you can just poke the stick across the room and smack a Witch with her own purple orb lol
strong ravine
because they dont multiply with the 150% from achilles
vernal shadow
I see
strong ravine
dio attack is good for heat
vernal shadow
the % bonuses other than arty aren’t very good
Yea that's fair
winter scroll
Well, none of the attacks multiply with 150% on Achilles, which makes secondary effects far more important than % differences. Which justifies Poseidon Attack if you're using Razor Shoals and going for Sea Storm
strong ravine
Well, _none_ of the attacks multiply with 150% on Achilles, which makes secondar...
arty does
vernal shadow
Isn't Flurry + Dem attack potentially good if you get the Blast one that happens after the 10 Chill
strong ravine
since crit damage is multiplicative
strong ravine
Isn't Flurry + Dem attack potentially good if you get the Blast one that happens...
it’ll only proc every 2 and a half cycles
vernal shadow
Oh true
magic bane
Isn't Flurry + Dem attack potentially good if you get the Blast one that happens...
that's only usable on Lucifer
strong ravine
and poseidon attack has the lowest % in the game and the push sucks
vernal shadow
F
strong ravine
since you’re only going to be pushing people extra who are already out of dash range
vernal shadow
that's only usable on Lucifer
I need to get Lucifer maxed out lol
vernal shadow
And I literally haven't upgraded my Zag Spear at all. Still level 0
strong ravine
plays a lot differently though
outer locust
I always assumed Artemis would be best
vernal shadow
I like to dream Ares would be good with Dire Misfortune but it's probably ass
strong ravine
I always assumed Artemis would be best
on luci?
outer locust
Which one is Dire Misfortune again?
strong ravine
that would be garbo
luci you just want zeus
the % is not doing much for you
and arty would be a poor choice for a ramp build
vernal shadow
Which one is Dire Misfortune again?
Gives additional damage to each Doom effect if applied multiple times
strong ravine
since you would also have to deal with when you get the crit rng
outer locust
Ohh yeah that one
sharp echo
Hmm... My brain already thinks of Shoals as "damage when you push enemy away", f...
And i thought vise versa
vernal shadow
luci you just want zeus
Boutta turn my enemies into a lightning rod
winter scroll
Enemies moving is unreliable and some of them only jump or dig, while pushing them is reliable (especially with both dash and attack)
Against the pushable ones anyway
I think Shoals doesn't work on bombers when they jump
magic bane
And I literally haven't upgraded my Zag Spear at all. Still level 0
upgrading zag spear isnt that important
sharp echo
Zag spear is the least fun spear to use anyway
Unless you really love Flurry that much
magic bane
i don't mind it
lets me focus only on attack/dash
magic bane
Unless you really love Flurry that much
oh i sure do
vernal shadow
Unless you really love Flurry that much
Lol
vernal shadow
ok winter harvest is actually pretty fun
Hearing Dem just shout YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW from the heavens is scary
Love it tho
magic bane
the scythe animation is cool
vernal shadow
Tbh I don't remember it. Oh well, after this run I'll refresh myself >:]
winter scroll
Ended up critting the final boss for 1325 regularly, which is a lot more than expected from 50 base damage. Still, DPS is just serviceable, not incredible. Whiffed on finding an Artemis attack.
strong ravine
Ended up critting the final boss for 1325 regularly, which is a _lot_ more than ...
u know about bad news bug right
bold jolt
whiffed on finding artemis attack
gets level 12 epic aphrodite attack and bad news
same difference tbh
i can't tell what the hammers are tho, chain and something else?
winter scroll
Chain Shot and Perfect Shot
strong ravine
looks like perfect
bold jolt
oh that's big additives lmao
winter scroll
u know about bad news bug right
Brought Lambent Plume to Region 2 to get Bad News right away. It's preferable over RD here
bold jolt
and then occasional big crit
strong ravine
except worse for attack builds
bold jolt
bad news is just bad rd
heroic haste epic rd
winter scroll
What do you mean about ichors
strong ravine
ichor gives u movespeed
bold jolt
ichors for bonus rd damage
strong ravine
movespeed is multiplicative
winter scroll
🤔
magic bane
What do you mean about ichors
bad news is bugged
applies to everything, not just cast
strong ravine
bad news is never preferable to rd because it's just like common rd but no ichors and no allowed lodge bonus
winter scroll
Math wise yes, but I'm not sure I can consistently proc RD on bow
strong ravine
do u not chain ur dash strikes
winter scroll
Well, I suppose the charge time in this case is less than Hyper Sprint buff
I'm not sure if I would get the RD bonus from the dash after releasing a shot
Needs testing
magic bane
oooh
whole raft
Lmao
golden peak
avoided hl5 
dont know if i made it harder instead
golden peak
bow
dusty socket
to many more to come:
whole raft
In td3 time
I always want to try spinning Achilles but haven't got any luck
:v too bad
little prairie
Same but more because I end up doing something less. Like beams
sullen hornet
heh
little prairie
Nice nice
eternal birch
24 heat on the 8th attempt, all 7 deaths were to hades .-.
eternal birch
bruh, i thought the 3rd statue unlocks at 24...
brazen minnow
32
eternal birch
yeah...
whole raft
Lock aim and snipe :v
brazen minnow
First hunting blades run, and the damage was ridiculous even without cycle
whole raft
First hunting blades run, and the damage was ridiculous even without cycle
Ares always avoid to give me the upgrade boon for the blades. That son of the beach
whole raft
40 heat with shield ✅
Nice Beo, didn't think that it would make for the timer.... I always exclude timer for Beo
bold jolt
Beo is the fastest aspect in the game lol
viscid plaza
Beat dad without even using a single DD, and with godawful boons to boot. Tried to get demeter legendary or demeter/poseidon duo for prophecy, didnt get either so ended up with a jank build
||And i did it with chaos egg, lmao||
outer locust
Chaos egg carried
strong ravine
to many more to come:
i think this is the best build i’ve ever seen on a first clear
viscid plaza
Was on track to do it under 15 even, but the damn satyr sack was in the last tunnel
I had lightning rod and quick spin before the furies lmao. and massive spin just made it even better
strong ravine
gg
viscid plaza
and then a posionous beetle killed me ._.
violet bloom
bold jolt
lmao guan yu moment
viscid plaza
Blizzard shot has to be the most worthless duo boon I've ever had the misfortune of being forced to use
bold jolt
it's decent on castpects but there's better optoins lmao
digital jackal
curse of drowning is worse imo
bold jolt
cod works better as a secondary duo than blizzard shot
bold jolt
it works for ME builds lmao
drowsy whale
Curse of Drowning is like halfway decent, isn't it?
digital jackal
I hate it with a passion
bold jolt
(apparently) 2nd best cast build for achilles but takes time to learn and is harder to use, and is pretty good as a secondary duo on ME builds, especially with RD
drowsy whale
2nd best? Better than Lightning Phalanx?
(I'm assuming Hunting Blades is the best?)
bold jolt
It is very good, it’s probably second best or maybe even best cast for Achilles imo
from Zyruvias off of a 6:19 achilles run
granted he's not an achilles expert like charlie or 185in but that's a pretty damn good time lmao
it's just a bit awkward and more gimmicky but can be strong, esp since it's 3 pulses with a 150% bonus each pulse
bold jolt
lp definitely more consistent and easier to use for sure
but cod achilles has some merit to it imo
better boss damage than lp
viscid plaza
Had poseidon call, dash and rupture and that was it.
no damage whatsoever, tried to get prophecies but no luck.
vernal shadow
So I saw this and was inspired
Took the one that gave me 2 dashes though, didn't think to swap it
I wanted Long Knuckle so bad but alas
outer locust
Baby's first Beo win
vernal shadow
Niceeee
paper bramble
Just 1 legendary (Zeus )away from pure epicness
winter scroll
Never got to find out the actual damage potential of this Beowulf. It oneshot each phase of the final boss. It also oneshot the giant armored vermin in the temple. The biggest number I saw was 8k, but this was limited by the health gate. Wonder how big it really was. Some important/relevant boons don't fit on the screenshot (Greater Haste, Ravenous Will, Charged Shot). Lambent Plume was at +18%.
strong ravine
Never got to find out the _actual_ damage potential of this Beowulf. It oneshot ...
196*2+120)*2*(1+1(2*1.4*1.18-1)+.25)*3 probably
winter scroll
This computes to around 10918 🤔
strong ravine
sounds about right
winter scroll
Care to explain 196*2+120?
winter scroll
Makes sense now
I remembered your previous explanation wrong
I thought you get double the amount of pom levels, but instead, you get double the damage from them
strong ravine
theres a bug kinda like that
with sweet nectar when you pom something with a pom slice it does the initial increase twice
so if u have common lvl1 flood flare and pom it with a slice with sweet nectar itll go up to 132
instead of 121
winter scroll
Update with Ravenous Will:
(196*2+120)*2*(1+1*(2*1.4*1.18-1)+0.25+0.3)*3
11839.488
that's a bit harsh
fallen dew
I've been liking Blizzard Shot lately - buffed with Mirage Shot, Sea Storm, Fully Loaded, Splitting Bolt, and Second Wave it just tears through the screen for me.
magic bane
well 2 legendaries and 3 duos tends to be strong
primal crown
What/why did you even anvil
autumn bronze
massive spin
also because i thought itd be funny
ended up being pretty good with flurry jab anyway
golden peak
finished all at 40 heat
autumn bronze
bare bones build
golden peak
one duo boon more than usual
autumn bronze
a pretty vital one at that
outer locust
I'm on a roll today
strong ravine
what is the next heat to jump to
50
golden peak
strong ravine
not that bad
autumn bronze
yes it is
strong ravine
hestia hl5 lc4 cf2 js1 em3 cp1 bp2 mm uc fo2 ri1 ap2 td3 pl free
bold jolt
45 exists
golden peak
autumn bronze
90% of my hestia 50 heat deaths were just tart resets
strong ravine
idk man i did it on the first epic atk run i got
its not that bad
its hestia
u literally cant die
how are you missing on hestia
autumn bronze
i dont think so
strong ravine
turn off aim at cursor
autumn bronze
how are you missing on hestia
i think he means as in the aim assist messing up?
hestia locks better imo
unborn swan
first 32 clear, only tried 32 2-3 times. got a nice clear with eris, big jump from my previous best being 10 -> 20 -> 32. eris is probably easiest but hey still a clear
strong ravine
good enough
autumn bronze
what the hl3 doin
autumn bronze
lets you take aspho erebus gates 
strong ravine
autumn bronze
pretty sure that was a contemplated strat at one point
c17 erebus could be faster than normal sometimes
strong ravine
people run hl for jesus christ strats
its funny
i think its meta in loyalty card
strong ravine
call gain on getting hit is based on how much % of ur max hp is taken
autumn bronze
right
strong ravine
you see where this goesz
autumn bronze
is there a formual for god gauge gain on hit
autumn bronze
i feel like it gives diminishing returns on larger damage
strong ravine
Call Charge
Aside from boons like Quick Favor and Smoldering Air, your Call charges every time you receive or deal damage, with the following formulae:
Dealing Damage
The value your Call gauge is charged when you deal damage follows these steps per instance of damage on an enemy by Zagreus:
- Is damage dealt ≤ 60? If so, carry damage value forward. Otherwise,
value = 60 + sqrt(damage - 60) - The value from step 1 is multiplied by 1%, and then by 1 + Clouded Judgment bonus, if you have it. The final value is the % of the call gauge charged. This scales with the square root function, as such for example damage (no Clouded Judgment):
10 damage - 0.1% gauge
50 damage - 0.5% gauge
100 damage - 0.66% gauge
300 damage - 0.75% gauge
500 damage - 0.81% gauge
750 damage - 0.86% gauge
2000 damage - 1.04% gauge
So you can see how sharply the call charge falls off with damage past 100 per hit.
Taking Damage
The base value your Call gauge is charged when you get hit is 60% * (Damage Taken / Max HP). If you had 100 HP, and you took a 100 HP hit, your call would gain 60% charge. Overkill damage counts in this case. If you had 1 HP, and took a 100 HP hit, your call would still gain 60% charge. This value is then multiplied additionally by Clouded Judgment and Boiling Point bonuses, if you have those boons. They are additive, so if you had a 40% boiling point and a 10% clouded judgment, that is a 50% multiplier, so the 100 HP hit with 100 max HP would charge your call gauge 90% from that hit.
Additional Notes
- Call charge will not take place while the call is active. You can tell the call is "active" because the bar is still draining.
- Hunter's Instinct is a flat call charge per crit, as it says on the tin. There appears to be a 0.5second cooldown on its activation, however.
vernal shadow
**Call Charge**
Aside from boons like Quick Favor and Smoldering Air, your Call...
Wha
Put in #h1-builds-and-combat
Also
strong ravine
ok
vernal shadow
I guess you DONT need healing to get the job done!
I somehow made it to Ely without losing a DD. Then lost one there, another to the Champions, and the final one to a Dire Doomstone. Bought another one from Charon pool after getting hit with a 4-sack ( 
)
winter scroll
A first for me: Heroic Rush Delivery from Eurydice. The upgrade didn't really matter because failed to find good sources of move speed other than Hyper Sprint, but highly pleasant nonetheless. (Damage against final boss: 934 per shot.)
autumn bronze
i almost feel like it shouldve been more
strong ravine
A first for me: Heroic Rush Delivery from Eurydice. The upgrade didn't really ma...
heroic rd sprint is good enuff
sad no tdash with all that global tho
midnight gull
strong ravine
red
winter scroll
My god pool was Aphrodite, Athena, Ares, Demeter, and I was selling all the garbage they were offering
strong ravine
blade dash not bad
autumn bronze
try using the other mirror setting for casts on hera next time
autumn bronze
5 boons was so low but its all i needed RAHHH
also i count 6 boons
midnight gull
~~also i count 6 boons~~
but i cant count
strong ravine
3 of them dont exist tho
midnight gull
this fella gets it
autumn bronze
true
midnight gull
what weapon do i use next? ive beaten the game on rail and bow
autumn bronze
do you have every god keepsake
midnight gull
do you have every god keepsake
yuh yuh
midnight gull
slicing shot deadly strike
in 26 hrs playtime language pls
autumn bronze
get ares cast in tart, then artemis attack
strong ravine
hunting blades duo ares/artemis
strong ravine
DF more important
midnight gull
is it too pushy for me to ask to turn off dark regen
its all good. i like to use it to full heal after bosses but ill turn it off
strong ravine
if ur switching, turn olympian favor to dark foresight
autumn bronze
its all good. i like to use it to full heal after bosses but ill turn it off
the fountain will pretty much full heal you after bosses
midnight gull
if ur switching, turn olympian favor to dark foresight
i dont have any of them upgraded anyway 😭
should i use stygian soul or the other one
strong ravine
u have it maxed
autumn bronze
strong ravine
should i use stygian soul or the other one
infernal mostly
strong ravine
for that one when u get points persuasion is better
autumn bronze
thats fated persuasion
midnight gull
my mirror options suck lmao 😭
autumn bronze
nah its fine
strong ravine
most are ok
autumn bronze
yeah
midnight gull
otay
winter scroll
This run taught me several things. Zagbow really is a melee weapon sometimes. If you have a damaging dash (namely Tidal Dash), you really want to dash into enemies, because weapon damage on its own is not all that high. Flurry Shot makes this way more fluid. Without Flurry Shot, I prefer Hunter Dash and range, but with FS, melee is very viable. Also, Tidal Dash with Hyper Delivery ended up being more powerful than my bow, so I ended up killing the final boss mostly by dashing, without any secondary sources like Razor Shoals or Sea Storm. Shooting the bow was often not worth it, because it would decrease dash frequency, deal not that much damage, and expose me to incoming damage, foiling my perfect clear. So, Tdash + HD for the win.
warm notch
what in the epic hermes
winter scroll
Screenshot selection bias. My Hermes misbehaves just as often as yours, probably
warm notch
cap
winter scroll
Had a run today where I dumped 6 reroll dice into Hermes (you don't even start with that many) and ended up taking faster Special on fists. That's how bad it was.
strong ravine
epic haste is fine
warm notch
good emergency uc fodder
ivory sky
perfect em4 thanks to athena
bold jolt
big gaming
ivory sky
one of the most gaming runs ever. it was also a 5 sack and I was just melting everything with special so it didn't matter
violet bloom
got bad news tho
ivory sky
that's flurry cast
ivory sky
I didn't even know that until now
ivory sky
I always play infernal soul
glass cargo
so close to sub 10 :(
drowsy whale
so close to sub 10 :(
Not to diminish your acomplishment, your time is pretty good considering how few runs you have, but this is like still pretty far away from sub 10 '^^
glass cargo
true but its good for me cause i normally clear kinda slow
drowsy whale
The first big speedrun milestone you can shoot for is sub 12 (which you actually got kinda close to) because that one's got a unique Victory subtitle ^^
glass cargo
thats neat but i dont think ill hit it for a while
drowsy whale
That's cool, I wish you good luck when you decide to shoot for it ^^
glass cargo
ty
midnight nest
so close to sub 10 :(
I got 12:14 on rail. I can’t use the shield for my life
glass cargo
shield is the easiest weapon for me to use
viscid plaza
Can't post images anywhere else, this is the greatest poseidon I've ever seen in my life
This was pretty fun, killed the heroes in 10seconds lol
Really was hoping for more chaos but alas, only one.
viscid plaza
Usually he gives me garbage boons, but that time everything he offered was good
wary brook
Oh
viscid plaza
usually like treasure, oceans bounty and then like attack
viscid plaza
splish splash
wary brook
What kinda build is that
viscid plaza
your opinion is trash
One that works
fastest clear too
for m e
I have fun with hazard bomb
bold jolt
Pretty reasonable imo
It'll be a pain for hammer reliant aspects but it's still doable without good hammers
hollow jacinth
No dash 
bold jolt
i think i did zag bow for unmodded sub10 lmao
proud heath
of course the one demeter boon i get in styx has both ice wine and winter harvest. BOTH of which i need for prophecies
primal crown
That's a purple mirror if I've ever seen one
proud heath
lol, just one fated authority away from maxing it out
my green side is totally empty
primal crown
Some of them are way better than purple
royal tangle
Am i doinit right
primal crown
Nice priv status
proud heath
Some of them are way better than purple
true, just gotta figure out which ones to upgrade first
primal crown
true, just gotta figure out which ones to upgrade first
There is a mirror guide in #h1-for-new-players pins
proud heath
Am i doinit right
did you end up getting hunting blades too? seeing a lot of artemis
proud heath
There is a mirror guide in <#725021347968712724> pins
yea, i could look at that, but i wanna figure it out on my own
royal tangle
did you end up getting hunting blades too? seeing a lot of artemis
yes got them hunting blades
proud heath
yes got them hunting blades
one of my favorites its so good. been on a granny rays bender recently
deep fjord
achilles spear is fair and balanced 👍
i forgot i picked up rush delivery tbh
still i just facetanked dad's lasers and out-DPSed him
no ares legendary but the poms made up for it
(and it's not that good anyways)
drowsy whale
4/6
Actually 3rd-try'd rail 40 heat. Quite easy compared to the first 3 weapons imo.
Fists coming up, and I'm dreading the sword already...
vernal shadow
ANOTHER DUB
Also people who hate Arthur must hate doing 1700+ damage on the third swing if it crits. How sad.
Also, 69TH CLEAR LETS GO
magic bane
arthur is just bad hestia
vernal shadow
Does Hestia give you bonus health?
strong ravine
vernal shadow
I had an Epic Hermes Boon that gave me +30% attack speed, so it was every 3 years instead 🤣
outer locust
One time I won with Arthur Cursed Slash
strong ravine
vernal shadow
That 30% makes a big difference, let me tell ya
OH
part of why I was hitting so hard was +72% attack damage from Chaos as well
Forgot about that haha
Also +14% Clouded Judgement and Rare Dio Call, hell yes
Regardless, good run.
strong ravine
warm notch
strong ravine
hangover overrides
warm notch
nasty dash
strong ravine
when u dash it overrides the 23 damage call ticks with 4 damage nasty dash
outer locust
Nash
vernal shadow
Y'all just hating that it worked
magic bane
now do 50 heat
magic bane
Does Hestia give you bonus health? <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
upgrading health is admitting you'll get hit
warm notch
not getting hit is a form of bonus health
strong ravine
40 heat on all weapons done
gg
strong ravine
i think ive only done 3 40 heats
autumn bronze
im almost definetly not going any higher on fists and sword
vernal shadow
The highest heat I've done is 15 lol
strong ravine
fists isnt bad
autumn bronze
i just dont like fists
strong ravine
so long as u get long knuckle
i made it to dad a bunch of times on 50 but i just suck mega ass at the video game u could def do it
sword tho
no iframes allowed
autumn bronze
i did it by accident
strong ravine
gg
autumn bronze
just get the boons
vernal shadow
Guan Yu absolutely rocks if you pick up every centaur heart you can grab
golden peak
what was your 50 with?
autumn bronze
hestia
autumn bronze
#h1-victory-boasting message my proudest gaming achievement probably
warm notch
zeus shield stonks
strong ravine
ri2 ap2 
warm notch
ri3
autumn bronze
everyone was recommending it to me not knowing i play unmodded
and also i am too lazy to make a hell mode save
strong ravine
have u tried playing ununmodded
autumn bronze
i dont have the facilities for that unfortunately
bold jolt
Fresh file
autumn bronze
fresh file?
strong ravine
do u play switch
autumn bronze
xbox
viscid plaza
Stonks.
I had all 3 DD and full HP, but as soon as I started fighting Hades I seemingly forgot how to not get hit.
viscid plaza
Yeah :/ but personally it sucks knowing that I suck more than I'd like
I'd say I definitely like the quick/wider spin better than the charged skewer though
warm notch
health is a resource 
magic bane
get Athena naturally in tart
primal crown
finally got purple rd on beo again and mirage dissapears
- wasted summon on styx mini boss
viscid topaz
well i just first tried 32 heat, having only recently ulocked the 16 heat skelly statue. eris really is strong
bold jolt
Rd kinda good
primal crown
Td3 time on td2 gaming
outer locust
First ever Rama win
outer locust
Also I am officially Beopilled
royal tangle
🥔 Well thats one way to do it 🥔
wary brook
🥔 Well thats one way to do it 🥔
Arthur sea storm
royal tangle
with super backstabbing action
winter scroll
Once again enjoying Zagsword flat damage soup with Zeus. Once the build comes together, the DPS is stupid, but it's unreliable due to high dependence on Zeus Legendary and Hyper Delivery. In final boss second phase, it took down the boss from 100% to 50% during lasers (much faster actually, the boss was spinning around pretending to use lasers while impervious), and then the rest of his health during his one next attack. One issue is that without Flurry Slash and/or epic Swift Strike, this is kinda annoying/unsafe to use due to un-cancelable standing attack animations, but you can get used to it. I feel like overall this is easier to use than the pure dash-attack rotation. You just need to hold your rapid-attack macro together with your auto-dash macro and cruise through the run.
primal crown
Nice soup
winter scroll
First Heat 32! Used Hestia which is probably my strongest / cheesiest aspect thanks to macros. Random start, got lucky with gods, got lucky with boons, got lucky with Hermes. Could be worse. Forgot to use any summons. Time to go die on other aspects.
bold jolt
damn 150% global
hollow jacinth
what kinda macro?
primal crown
And you tell us your hermes screenshots are selected
strong ravine
what kinda macro?
think for dash strikes or something
hollow jacinth
lol streaked epic rd
strong ravine
bold jolt
pride do be priding
winter scroll
Posted macro suggestions here: https://mitranim.com/posts/hades
hollow jacinth
interesting
strong ravine
but i dash a little slow
winter scroll
It spreads them out far enough so you don't have a big downtime. When you want to burst them out sooner, you just mash the key
strong ravine
thats why i never get sub4 c1
in some nem sheet i watched cgull casually pulled out like a 3.72 and i was just
hollow jacinth
gamepad much better in c1
strong ravine
i usually get 1.06
.99 if im speedy with it
and my c2 exits are like
4.6x normally
4.1 4.2 if enemies let me bull rush right to door
violet bloom
based pact
vernal shadow
Ayyy
golden peak
its eris
vernal shadow
Fr
strong ravine
sure footing carry
golden peak
i think you mistyped bouldy
wild slate
first time I tried +3 tight deadline and I was really happy with this build :D managed to oneshot the big butterfly ball. if I had only tightened up getting to the doors a bit more I would have had a sub-15, but alas.
strong ravine
definitely a good time for that build
vernal shadow
@bold jolt @strong ravine @autumn bronze Thank you for your help on this build, legends
bold jolt
big gaming
autumn bronze
~~ i literally gave one piece of questionable advice~~
vernal shadow
~~ i literally gave one piece of questionable advice~~
LOL it still helped
strong ravine
strong ravine
just do fo1 50
bold jolt
I think jazz did Achilles 50 with fo1 lmao
strong ravine
i did
winter scroll
Second Heat 32, this time with Fists. Some resets for trash boon reasons. Felt a little slow and painful at times. Maybe the pact needs some tweaking. The damage picked up after finding Sea Storm and later Zeus Legendary, but the lack of Rush Delivery was keenly felt.
strong ravine
strong ravine
Second Heat 32, this time with Fists. Some resets for trash boon reasons. Felt a...
taking lc4 would be helpful
especially given you're already on sd for some reason
winter scroll
Yeah might try LC and drop some other annoying stuff like Damage Control
strong ravine
DC def annoying on fists
even if its takable
takeable
whatever
hl3 fo2 is also not a fun combo
hl1 lc4 fo2 dc0 more reasonable
on melee some people take hl5 fo0
hushed shadow
beat EM4 hades with my fave build
only had EM4 and tight deadline 3 on
wanted to practice being fast and also see how hard em4 hades is
it was not a conscious effort to get as many demeter boons as I did lol
I dont remember when I got strong drink
hushed shadow
for those curious, compared to a normal dash attack without serrated point and no % boosts, my dash attack did +1209% more damage on average
royal tangle
🥔merficul end on arthur is bad
ruby spade
maybe if ares was attack and athena special?
strong ravine
yea it’s gonna suck ass if it’s anything other than ares atk athena spec athena dash especially on arthur since the special is so slow you basically just don’t wanna be using it
primal crown
At least is a solid atk build
Why is cursed slash here
shrewd zinc
ivory sky
just got done with 32 on everything, congrats
spark moon
i literally dont think i ever speak here but heres an old image i found in my storage server of me getting nearly 7k damage in one hit in final battle. the build was so amazing i wish i had my victory screen stats to share
strong ravine
achilles ice wine?
strong ravine
oh beo
magic bane
checks out
strong ravine
ppl usually dont take ice wine on beo
bold jolt
Pom bug goes hard
strong ravine
because of the weird delay
spark moon
i do it super frequently, ive never noticed the delay
strong ravine
gives ur cast extra travel time
spark moon
oh yeah real
LETS GO I FOUND THE VICTORY SCREEN (also this screenshot is super old apologies)
magic bane
big damage
spark moon
FR
bold jolt
403 isn't even the right damage number lmao
ivory sky
lol bugshot
prometheus stone and braid of atlas expired right before the big fight otherwise it'd have been around 10k per shot
ivory sky
already got another no damage win vs em4, no perfect clear message since it's guan yu. charged skewer critting for 1k was nice, I also had hunting blades and vicious cycle in tart
and to top it off the game rewarded me with the threesome scene afterwards
special thanks to chaos for giving me fully loaded since artemis didn't show up enough times
magic bane
special thanks to chaos for giving me fully loaded since artemis didn't show up ...
many such cases
ivory sky
lmao
bitter skiff
got an 11:43 where it took me all 5 styx rooms for satyr sack. could have been my first sub 10
strong ravine
good build
bold jolt
classic styx moment
silent oracle
fast run, good run :3
bold jolt
big gaming
dusty socket
to many more to come:
Ok, merciful end is crazy strong wow.
ivory sky
ice wine is just a lot of fun
outer locust
special thanks to chaos for giving me fully loaded since artemis didn't show up ...
Chaos can give you other gods' Legos?
wild slate
Chaos can give you other gods' Legos?
i think clio meant she took +1 cast from chaos twice
sharp echo
they meant that they kept getting +1 Casts in Chaos
outer locust
Ohhh
sharp echo
I am never taking Dash Nova again for Pos aspect.
I missed so many easy dislodges with it.
strong ravine
I am never taking Dash Nova again for Pos aspect.
I missed so many easy dislodg...
dash nova is generally detrimental
sharp echo
very very much
but it doesn't help that the others were equally as worthless if not worse
I tried dodging Cursed
I should've just taken the 3rd
Finally done with every purchase. I can finally stop hunting for specific House resources.
Resource Director is something I won't bother hunting. It should just come naturally
strong ravine
wild slate
wide win
sharp echo
FINALLY! My first 32 heat.
strong ravine
thats certainly a pact
nice td2 time with td0
would have been td3 time with js0 cp0
primal crown
Hell mode
sharp echo
I'd rather not bother with TDs ever.
primal crown
Splitting bolt gaming
strong ravine
u clearly got the skill to
strong ravine
patient pact is td2 for u then
if u manage 25;36 off js3 cp2
u got the skill for it
sharp echo
this is Snow Burst Crush Hera though. I can't imagine it with slower killing weapons.
strong ravine
yea this is a pog build
idk
i was the same with lc
i hated the idea of taking lc4
my first 32 was hl5 lc2 fo2 td2 with a td3 time because i just didnt wanna take it
i warmed up to it tho
sharp echo
LC4 is fine if the run was made to be safer. I can't imagine using it with Fists and Sword
sharp echo
hell, I tried LC4 fists and died in Tart
wild slate
Take less damage when i'm patient
td1 is free bc in game time is so generous
strong ravine
im just an old lady
wild slate
it pauses in story rooms and boon selection
i dont think ive ever had a run go over 36 minutes in game time
strong ravine
vid in #self-promotion
sharp echo
For now all I need to do is 25 heat the remaining Aspects and I can call Hades close to completed in my eyes
autumn bronze
wr when?
strong ravine
idk my school starts in 8 minutes
autumn bronze
doable
royal tangle
guess im really lucky this time
strong ravine
guess im really lucky this time
not even close
viscid plaza
strong ravine
spread pog
viscid plaza
I could've taken aphro legendary too, but felt that the bonus dmg would be better vs hades
didnt get hardly any poms, but did get ares legendary for prophecy
strong ravine
wait is that targ
viscid plaza
targ?
strong ravine
targeting system
viscid plaza
yeah
strong ravine
hmmmm
viscid plaza
nectar poms :/
had acorn on to start the run
forgot to switch
why so nitpicky anyways i won aight
strong ravine
win is win
viscid plaza
Ye
ivory sky
took hestia for a spin and welp
