I like the Artemis/Demeter cast duo, that one feels really easy
#h1-victory-boasting
viscid plaza
I also didn't get a single chaos cast, in 3 chaos portals lol.
But the Artemis +2 makes up for it.
magic bane
did you get cast damage?
viscid plaza
I think one of them was
left ridge
I feel like it might have been a sub10 if I'd gotten more free rooms, hyper sprint or zeus in my god pool
but yeah, plume gaming is a lot more reliant on rng, meh
wary brook
guys i think smair is bugged
No, its just mad that you aren’t calling it by its full name
It’s very offended and doesn’t want to talk to you
Apologize at once
strong ravine
wow thanks!
nice 10% global
magic bane
it wasn't
magic bane
ez
silver hinge
thin vault
Blasts from the past due to people discussing first 32s
magic bane
hera pb
strong ravine
nice well
magic bane
jealous?
strong ravine
also nice slippery
magic bane
i had dash by then
hollow fractal
this was alright i guess
definitely not the most fun for me tho
winter scroll
@strong ravine Would that you, too, had a chariot had such filthy Beowulf luck. (Not highlighted: Greater Haste for even more Rush Delivery.)
winter scroll
Won't see skill play on my screenshots
The one acorn charge was lost to messing around and trying to observe damage numbers (4.5k+)
hollow fractal
wow that is very large
bold jolt
Epic rd based
magic bane
i thought you hated zapfists
winter scroll
Accidentally got the opportunity to test Hangover on Bow, and it felt like acceptable DPS even without many poms. Until recently I thought Hangover is just for Rail/Fists/Zeus_Aspect, but Flurry Shot + Twin Shot bow is surprisingly good at it too. The fire rate is quick and Twin Shot applies 2 Hangover per shot.
strong ravine
i think rd and lvl7 phalanx were probably more impactful 
winter scroll
No question about that, I also had Chaos cast buff
strong ravine
also nice dio call
winter scroll
Well, didn't have any better options in this god pool
winter scroll
I'd rather use a half-effective Dio call. At the very least, it doesn't get overwritten on the targets I'm not shooting
bold jolt
gonna be honest, i dont think drunken strike was that impactful at all lmao
winter scroll
Well, sure, I killed most everything with Casts, but whenever I would just shoot, Hangover would melt them. More importantly, it increases God Gauge gains
strong ravine
more god gauge for your call to be overwritten
winter scroll
That's only because I had a Dio call
You could pick something else and enjoy
Plus, Call = dodge 🙂
lunar peak
best run ive had so far in terms of boons i think
strong ravine
heroic titan toppler W
strong ravine
@bold jolt def didnt pop all 3 dds in dad
i have multiple 50 heats faster than this
my res doesnt make p3 too shrimple
bold jolt
Lmao nice
sharp echo
Unable to get the last Fated Spear boon from Daedalus. But was very fun to just stand in one place and spin with insane range.
sharp echo
Good ol' Smair from Aph start.
sharp echo
Finally, no Fated Choices to sabotage my run.
sharp echo
Finally embraced a traditional sword build.
winter scroll
Could use TD for some free heat, and MM / BP for some relatively free heat
sharp echo
For now, TD is not gonna be something I'm using. Not until I'm contented with my trove and fish hunting
winter scroll
Fishing pauses the timer and troves are quick
BTW one side benefit of TD is that it disables boring survival rooms
sharp echo
actually finding for those are the ones that take time
especially in Asphodel
I'm beginning to hate Aspho more than Styx
large maps and annoying lava placements
winter scroll
I mainly dislike how short it is >_>
sharp echo
Also I don't think BP is all that free. Well compared to some others
teleporting splitters and cloning Elysium shades being the most infamous
winter scroll
I should say "cheap"
brazen minnow
primal crown
Both js and cp are
sharp echo
I love Cruel Thrust with Swift Strike so much in a Nemesis Rend build
winter scroll
Accidentally started a Zeus Aspect run with Infernal Soul and finally got to experience Lightning Rod + Splitting Bolt + Hyper Delivery. Far stronger than expected. Just drop off your Bloodstones and shield disc (if any) and run around watching everything melt from just that, including the final boss.
primal crown
Why do you get all the epic RDs
winter scroll
Because only the lucky runs get posted
And the more I post, the higher the standard for "lucky"
marble plank
choices choices choices
wary brook
Because only the lucky runs get posted
Bro how many runs do you do a day
I look at your posts and just watch as the total clears number goes up and up
marble plank
i had to choose deadly - it was the last duo that i needed for the 15 ambrosia
i got mirage shot later in styx
winter scroll
Bro how many runs do you do a day
Hmm probably a dozen or so? It varies a bit. It's unhealthy I know
warm notch
why do you always have epic rd 
winter scroll
Screenshot selection bias: runs without RD don't make it here
I have the worst Hermes luck normally
wary brook
I have the worst Hermes luck normally
Really? Ive never gotten a Hermes Lego
EVER
No matter how hard I try
OR Artemis lego
Infact
The rest of legendaries that I have gotten, I have only gotten once!!!
Tbf though I only do 2-5 runs per day
And Im always switching up my build
winter scroll
As a habit, I typically set up duos and legendaries in just about every run, and prioritize Chaos rarity boons and Eury Nectar. This probably makes it more likely
The only runs where I don't bother setting up duos or legos are Rama, Hestia, and sometimes Hera
Hermes Legendary requires you to prioritize Flurry Cast or Quick Reload in Region 2 over Hyper Sprint, and since Hyper Delivery is so... hyped, this makes the Lego far less accessible for most players probably?
In cast builds that aren't Hera, I really like Flurry Cast, so there you go
Plus I'm slowly improving my pathing. For example right now I'm looking at two doors in Styx: Dionysus and Aphrodite. Because I checked Codex, I found that I'm open for Dio/Aphro Duo, and for Aphro Lego. This means I have to go Dio first, get the Duo, then go Aphro and get the Lego. The opposite order would have been "incorrect" in the sense that it couldn't give me both. There's probably all sorts of other nuances to learn. (Edit: got the Duo, whiffed on the Lego.)
lunar peak
was not expecting blade rifts to charge the god gauge that fast, what a cool combo
winter scroll
Ended up with Eris + Hunting Blades after a random "surprise me" start. Kind of a weird hybrid setup because it wasn't great at casting (1 Bloodstone) and wasn't great at other damage (poms went into cast, few Zeus boons, no call). Probably wouldn't recommend because Eris doesn't have the downtime to waste on those casts, you're better off just focusing on Zeus damage. Until Hunting Blades came online, the run was carried by the basic Eris Zeus setup which would have worked just fine on its own. Eris is probably better at this job than Aspect of Poseidon, but it doesn't need Hunting Blades as a "crutch".
rigid lance
no sub10 yet but pb
i was so sloppy tho i have to work on positioning 😭😭
also my fishing game was on point 😤
lunar peak
cant believe i won with my first time using excalibur such a meh build
rigid lance
nice
im trying excalibur for the first time rn but i got bored and decided to fight charon in tartarus for some reason 💀
hollow fractal
by far my least favorite weapon
rigid lance
i dont mind it too much but i just hate the dashstrike
hollow fractal
the entire thing is clunky
rigid lance
yea
hollow remnant
cant believe i won with my first time using excalibur such a meh build
mercyful end arthur without the end
crazy waky build, congrats on makin with it 
lunar peak
mercyful end arthur without the end
crazy waky build, congrats on makin with it ...
now im about to use excalibur again with the craziest boon luck, lets hope i win
lunar peak
maybe not the best build for excalibur since i critted like twice in a blue moon but 3 duo boons is still nuts
bold jolt
Zagshield sub10
Does hestia dash inflict a status for pstatus?
Icy scorches with pstatus sounds kinda funny lmao
magic bane
does decay give pstatus though
bold jolt
No
magic bane
cringe
left ridge
Does hestia dash inflict a status for pstatus?
Hestia unfortunately doesn't have any status curse :(
so she's pretty bad with pstatus
dense obsidian
first time trying a cast-centric run!
i was 1 hit away from dying afjsakaisfoh
hollow fractal
run ended up a bit faster than i expected
hollow fractal
first time trying a cast-centric run!
i was 1 hit away from dying afjsakaisfoh
try cast-centric with hera bow once you unlock it
hollow fractal
fastest run so far yet again
had a LOT of bonuses on cast on this one
primal crown
Where mirage
rigid lance
hit the sub10 barely
primal crown
olympian favor gaming
rigid lance
finally tried high confidence i think thats what tipped it over
kept getting just over 10
primal crown
wait fated authorithy
rigid lance
lol yea😹
violet bloom
strong ravine
nice hammers
magic bane
nice pact
hollow fractal
Where mirage <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
unlucky gaming
sharp echo
Really great run. I just hoped that they were Clockets. And that Aph Atk and Art Special boons were swapped. But RNG begs to differ.
strong ravine
Really great run. I just hoped that they were Clockets. And that Aph Atk and Art...
wdym swapped
sharp echo
If it were Clockets, I wouldn't mind Art Special.
strong ravine
you still want arty spec and aph atk
sharp echo
But since it didn't go like that, I wanted Art Attack and Aph Special
strong ravine
arty attack only good with some other large source of additive
sharp echo
so art attack on Hestia charged ain't great?
strong ravine
it is but you need about
sharp echo
too many poms?
sharp echo
ah
winter scroll
By the book standard Hera stuff, but I'm a little proud of managing to keep the build so "pure" with no unwanted core boons or poms in anything useless. Had to sell a lot of things along the way to keep it like this. Not terribly strong due to lack of Chaos cast dmg boons.
ivory sky
attempting 32 heat w/em4 on all weapons, halfway done now thanks to rod
it was messy and I hate that I had to burn skelly's tooth right before winning but hey it counts
strong ravine
nice td1
sharp echo
ME+Smair. Most fun Fist run ever.
strong ravine
sharp echo
ah yes. The aspect ratio not squished enough that you're now doing angled camera shots
strong ravine
8s of timesave in furies because i’m mega ass
sharp echo
This has got to be my strongest run ever so far. It was so oppressive that no one can last that long. Delta attack especially giving me 0 downtime in bringing pain.
halcyon kernel
Not too impressive, but my highest heat so far, beowulf is fun
sharp echo
Not exactly the dream HB run I wanted (Wanted Art and Ares Lego) but it still shredded hard.
golden peak
first 32
hollow fractal
nice
sharp echo
ME never happened. So damage was hybrid as hell. Relying on constant doom application, fast ASPD to get constant Cutters, 5 Casts to put in Dad and let Exit Wounds do the work.
winter scroll
Chiron with Hangover and relevant Duos seems to have somewhat acceptable killing power. Certainly not the best, but better than I expected. In this run, I found Piercing Volley, which improved things significantly. You can line up enemies to apply Hangover to multiple targets at once, and whey they're grouped up, Special tends to hit all of them, like it has a tiny AoE.
wary brook
Chiron with Hangover and relevant Duos seems to have somewhat acceptable killing...
howw do you get runs like these
Even if you do many runs a day
Your luck is insane
winter scroll
You mean duos and legendaries? Might be a matter of pathing and boon choices 🤔. Just finished the next run with 4 duos. 3 out of 4 weren't doing very much. So I'm not sure if I'm doing it right...
primal crown
Rip low tolerance
winter scroll
(The next run in question.) 3 out of 4 duos are for the Hangover Call, which ended up probably doing half of my damage if not more, because I completely whiffed on any Zeus for my Attack.
Low Tolerance worked here with Passion Dash
Actually I'm not sure if the Call can apply that many stacks
Can it?
Half of these duos I picked just to sell, but didn't get lucky enough to sell them
rain ruin
It’s pretty normal because most duos are mediocre at best and the rest is situational and very build reliant. You’re doing it right if you get the best duos first, the rest is just whatever
primal crown
Actually I'm not sure if the Call can apply that many stacks
Minor call applies 5 stacks, and pretty sure it doesn't last enough for the full 8 with smair
winter scroll
Ooh that's good to know
But the run would be much better off with more Zeus, and I tend to whiff hard on that
winter scroll
This run made me conclude that Quick Reload is the absolute highest priority boon on Achilles. Without QR, you spend the whole run building up this amazing Cast DPS, but on the final boss, end up meleeing 90% of the time, with pathetic DPS in comparison. My Hermes was a troll, as usual.
(Finally got the streak to a nice number! Time to throw a run and forget about streaks forever, and do 32 Heat for a change. This one is "cheated" via resets, so it's a measure of patience, not skill.)
strong ravine
This run made me conclude that Quick Reload is the absolute highest priority boo...
your attack damage was fine
flurry and deadly strike
no tdash was the culprit
winter scroll
It killed things fine, but it was nothing compared to my casts, or compared to better weapons and their DPS
There's just such a huge difference between having QR and not having it
strong ravine
hermes checks out
➡️ 
storm orchid
11th attempt
wary brook
11th attempt
Meme beam carry 💪
11 attempts is really fast congratulations!
Is this your first save?
72 minutes wow
storm orchid
Is this your first save?
Yep
storm orchid
72 minutes wow
I go afk alot
wary brook
I go afk alot
Oh
Well if you can shave off about 70 minutes you could get the world record!
Easy right
strong ravine
2 min
winter scroll
Funny, my first win was also with shield and Demeter turrets
I think a lot of people report having first win with shield
storm orchid
I think a lot of people report having first win with shield
Yeah it feels like cheating
winter scroll
Meanwhile having tried and failed 32 Heat gives me new appreciation for folks reporting victories here. Needs more practice
storm orchid
Meanwhile having tried and failed 32 Heat gives me new appreciation for folks re...
(I do not know what that is, but I'm sure I'll find out later)
winter scroll
Pretty sure the game's about to tell you 🙂
strong ravine
autumn bronze
why
warm notch
pog pact
real oar
That spear run was brutal
ivory sky
nice, you always play at 40? 
strong ravine
cursed MEchilles
real oar
nice, you always play at 40? <:nectar:730890378563026965>
Nah. Was just trying to get all the weapons there. Not sure what heat to do next
Went 20 > 32 > 40
ivory sky
I'm doing 32 with em4 then idk maybe 40. or switch to eris and try for a sub10
real oar
I'm doing 32 with em4 then idk maybe 40. or switch to eris and try for a sub10
I need to try sub 10 again. That 10:21 still annoys me
strong ravine
ivory sky
I got pretty close but I play on switch so styx tunnels ruined it
real oar
I got pretty close but I play on switch so styx tunnels ruined it
So do I. What’s the difference?
strong ravine
cant play modded
ivory sky
speedrun mod on pc takes the randomness out of styx tunnels
real oar
Ah
real oar
I’ve been on a hot streak with it. I’m sure I just jinxed myself though
brave charm
I've started gaming
brave charm
Didn't get lucky with them
Didn't get mirage till end
Still can't believe rail is my fastest time now
sharp echo
Rail's no joke if you either got Clockets or the full tree of Zeus attack with Call
strong ravine
strong ravine
bold jolt
get rare doomed
strong ravine
it was common lol
so was +dash
gombled on the upgrade with no ME
got it in midshop anyways
it was shackle start tho
sharp echo
Btw whats the reasoning for skipping olympian boon keepsakes in Tart?
bold jolt
it was shackle start tho
Oh lmao incredibly based
sharp echo
I remember Mitranim also opting out of Olympian keepsakes at Tart
Although that is kind of tied to him just wanting the run to be more different than trying to win
strong ravine
Btw whats the reasoning for skipping olympian boon keepsakes in Tart?
shackle start is fun
otherwise it's bad
only on certain aspects tho
echo belfry
Spear down on Hell Mode as Fresh File as possible. Phew, I sure don't like the Spear XD
strong ravine
not even close
torpid coyote
not a victory yet, but basically a victory
chamber 4 ME
saw a chaos gate chamber 2 and i thought that'd be a nice path and then athena popped up in the room rewards 👀
then back to back into ME
insane luck
oh my god i saw hermes in the shop
didn't end up getting extra dashes but if i did that would've been nuts
strong ravine
no sprint either?
magic bane
nice pact lol
torpid coyote
lol is there something people typically wouldn't run?
torpid coyote
i've always ran it on fo1 hc5 that's kinda what i got used to for 32 heat
only recently did i realise td3 was easy
so by that point i've already gotten really used to fo1
also dc1 seems safe enough on fists?
torpid coyote
true true
i thought it'd be free enough so 🤷♀️
also most of my like hiuristics are from the really old guide in #h1-high-heat-strategies
the pinned message from like 2020
because thats when i played i only recently got back too
ignore the previous runs a lot of losses and unimportant ones got wiped because of bugs
sharp echo
ME with T.Dash shreds a lot
Although following it up with a special is sometimes challenging
sharp echo
for those affected by the knockback
its amazing if you can put them on a wall
fighting like an actual boxer
sharp echo
Pat salvaging this run.
welp didn't matter. Asterius kept spamming his spin and Theseus kept cutting in the middle.
strong ravine
ivory sky
didn't get crystal clarity or lightning rod but won anyway. long and messy
now I just gotta do the spear
strong ravine
vernal shadow
didn't get crystal clarity or lightning rod but won anyway. long and messy
Winter Harvest is goated. Hearing Demeter shout down from the literal heavens is scary but worth it lmao
ivory sky
yeah it's not the best meta but man it's cool
another thing that's cool is I finally got 32+em4 done on all weapons
and this run in particular denied me nothing
poseidon could have shown up instead of athena and I could have gotten mirage shot but hey I won (barely)
sharp echo
The more chaotic the screen is, the better.
I can't even pin all the good stuff.
sharp echo
Dammit i wanted him to be 0...
sharp echo
Simple...and PERFECT.
Just the health, not the build.
Was hoping for Art lego but Art boons rarely came up.
primal crown
Purple rd 
Common haste
sharp echo
New run. Purple Sprint....no RD
golden peak
sword new pb
vernal shadow
Epic
golden peak
sword new pb
new overall pb
primal crown
Where 2nd hermes
strong ravine
i took it
golden peak
😔
golden peak
new overall pb
sub 11 this time
strong ravine
violet bloom
golden peak
<:pepog:1089997831718314135> sub 11 this time
again
winter scroll
Thanks to a random start on Hera, found a nice side effect of using Zeus cast. It opens Lightning Rod with Artemis and works well with Lightning Rod, because this cast tends to not lodge in targets for some reason. It's weak against single targets, but this synergy with Lightning Rod (if you can get it) compensates to some extent. Plus, it puts Zeus in your pool from the start, making you more likely to get good things like Smair. This is probably consistently slower than Crush Shot Hera, but it works.
drowsy whale
Beat my first 40 heat (deleted and reuploaded screenshot for better boon highlights) ^^
primal crown
amazing build
bold jolt
Epic rd based
winter scroll
Inspired by previous run, figured I'd try Eris with Lightning Rod, worked on the first try, better than expected. With Eris, RD, and Zeus Legendary boosting its damage, it seems like very high value for just throwing your casts out at the start of a fight. Might be worth running Infernal Soul just for that sometimes.
primal crown
Rod my beloved
strong ravine
nice pact
low arch
nice pact
thanks. tight deadline 3 screwd me over my first attempt ebcause I got a 6 sack. I didn't even know a 6 sack was possible
strong ravine
low arch
funnily enough on my second attempt which was victorious (this one) I also got a 6 sack.....
is that scripted or smth the first time you do 32 heat?
strong ravine
there are 5 chambers
low arch
oh
I can't count apparently
I guess I got a 5-sack 2ice ina row then
super bad luck...espesh on 32 ehat
winter scroll
Nice statistics, and congratulations
low arch
Nice statistics, and congratulations
thankyouthankyou
let me post the actual log in case anyone's curious
strong ravine
that has less info
low arch
that has less info
does it?
strong ravine
yea
low arch
at least it has the boon names
strong ravine
doesnt have rarity
strong ravine
you figure them out pretty quick
low arch
you figure them out pretty quick
i ahven't palyed the game for like 2 years I picked it back up like 3 days ago after watching like 4309568309486 videos to refresh my memory
I originally played it from some4one else's steam library I was family sharing with. at some point I lost access to that and picked the game up on sale but it'd been a year and was super intimidated to get back to it
I'm happy I did though. managed to accomplish my goals of beating 20heat with every weapon and doinbg 32heat
strong ravine
should be lightning strike heartbreak flourish divine dash zeus call favor explosive fire delta chamber jolted proud bearing riposte i think pp strike diff league marked sweet surrender and zeus veng
oh it was blinding flash not riposte
strong ravine
I'm happy I did though. managed to accomplish my goals of beating 20heat with ev...
if u wanna do more 32 check out the guide
strong ravine
low arch
strong ravine
low arch
im done with the game x)
- nice. I'm at 155.7
anyway we're getting off topic, the mods will laser us with luci rail
hollow fractal
@strong ravine 32 first attempt lol
i forgot to use my companion ever
strong ravine
nice pact
magic bane
one od the pacts ever
hollow fractal
i have no idea what is usually suggested i just picked what looked easiest
strong ravine
it's just like
"can you do fo2 superdad"
td1 means even js3 dc2 rooms r free
zeus hard
ez beo
with no hl and no ri/ap
so you get to do 54
or 56 eris
primal crown
surprisingly dad didn't took 2 mins like expected
winter scroll
Finally realized that Zagsword wants to be a Zeus weapon. Or perhaps, it wants to be Zagfists. Used all the Zeus I could find, and it worked surprisingly well. This is the one sword setup where Flurry Slash might be pickable, although it's still up to personal taste. I'd say it's a competitor to the widely-vaunted Nemesis.
primal crown
flat dmg soup but no RD rip
warm notch
why do you have two hermes boons then
violet bloom
abyssal blood
warm notch
nice mirror
hollow fractal
tempest flourish sucked here
but i liked the Heroic hangover + black out + dio aid
large stack
also got 5 dashes lol
viscid plaza
Got ares boon prophecy finally
Also killed Hades in less than 2 min. This build was insane
strong ravine
ivory sky
back to back runs. been using granny lasers a lot lately vs em4 but these were just a slaughter
viscid plaza
<:thanthink:669246004142538753>
Idek what that is
Artemis something?
I didn't get the duo boon until Elysium, I was only doing the run for the prophecy so that's why it's pommed
strong ravine
back to back <:residentzag:580097451197857816> runs. been using granny lasers a ...
on that first one i think splitting rd rod zeus call billowing was probably more damage than meme beam
sharp echo
surprisingly dad didn't took 2 mins like expected
Ideal Phalanx for Achilles since it has quick reload and Hermes lego
strong ravine
dashes gud
low arch
<@752689126448300033> 32 first attempt lol
i forgot to use my companion ever
that's a pretty insane pact. only deadline 1?
good job
and em4 too that's crazy
sharp echo
I'm still hunting Troves so I'm not implementing TDs yet
golden peak
2nd 32, with sword this time
golden peak
rather that than HL or smth
hollow fractal
that's a pretty insane pact. only deadline 1?
Tbh just have no idea what a "normal" one would look like lol
I thought i picked an easy set
low arch
this is mine
@hollow fractal
Id' rather heal less than take more damage, especially since I usually overheal
and 15% extra health for enemies isn't a lot
espesh considering you have EM4 which gives hades WAY MORE health
but admittedly I don't know anything about running Zeus shield so
hollow fractal
Extra health seemed like it'd eat way more time than one slightly stronger hades boy at the end of the run when my build is the strongest it'll be
primal crown
Truth is, both cp1 and em4 are 
lol
hollow fractal
Id' rather heal less than take more damage, especially since I usually overheal
This kinda makes sense
Which one is cp1 lol
primal crown
Enemy Health
hollow fractal
Ok yeah
Fair
Idk I've always had the least trouble with bosses and it gives so much Heat
low arch
Truth is, both cp1 and em4 are <:ron:459075377906712586> lol
+15% enemy health isn't that bad. I'd much rather take that than pair less healing with more damage taken
plus I was ruinning eris so +15% is like 2 reloads
for the bosses
hollow fractal
More damage doesn't matter if u simply do not get hit
And if you do at least the healing can compensate
That was my mindset lol
Speaking of i need to try a run using thanatos keepsake throughout
sullen hornet
Finally got a good ME build :)
magic bane
and 15% extra health for enemies isn't a lot
yes it is
low arch
yes it is
maybe. didn't feel that bad though. I was more comfortable taking that than smth else. maybe double convenience fee would have been better
i felt like i could handle it though
like I said even with the 5 sack I was still okay. though admittadly I was banking on at least a 3-sack
bold jolt
Cp1 gives dad 5k more hp lol
hollow fractal
I was so unnecessarily stressed about the timer at first
Pretty sure i had like 16 extra mins or something at the end
drowsy whale
I was trying out heat on Bow, and somehow got my first "Perfect Clear" end screen title by triggering my Last Stand DD right before the lethal hit xD
Or at least I assume that's what did it. Since other than being full health at the end I don't know what would make my run "Perfect" '^^
sharp echo
My most stacked/ideal Nemesis run yet....well if it were Sprint over Haste. But I sometimes prefer Haste to be less reliant on dash strikes.
bold jolt
Epic haste epic rd based
sharp echo
Sprint has higher potential for damage but I really don't want to just keep dash striking
hollow jacinth
fat call
sharp echo
Whenever I see an unwanted Demeter boon, I always hope it's a Rare Crop as long as I'm not running a Hera/Beo
hollow jacinth
rav will is pretty nice
sharp echo
every attack I did had bold numbers. Bolder if it crit
actually the Rare Crop barely helped. The Zeus Aid was already Epic.
sharp echo
noted
sharp echo
what i always learned regarding higher rarities are
instead of considering its base improvements
it's more about how insane its growth is with Poms
little prairie
Is there any rhyme or reason to rarity vs pom increase? And also how much pom returns diminish?
sharp echo
I usually tend to go hard on poms if they're the casts of Beo or Hera. And always hard on Zeus/Dio Calls and Rift Casts no matter how much it falls off.
also increasing the rarity doesn't have too many options anyways for it to be considered vs Pomming
little prairie
I don't think rift cast falls off at all
It's weirdly still two per level forever from experience
I guess that makes it similar you hangover and beams in proportion but those I just assumed couldn't go less than one.
hollow fractal
Triple bomb is kind of absurd
lunar peak
For triple bomb on the aspect that boosts you when you hit yourself, do the second two get boosted if you get absorb the first one?
strong ravine
Is there any rhyme or reason to rarity vs pom increase? And also how much pom re...
yes to the second one
it’s 20/40/60/80% of common
and then some amount diminish
little prairie
Is glacial common 2.5 seconds, so 1 second is 40%? I thought it was 2.
20-80 is still a lot of options lol
strong ravine
it's 2
strong ravine
20-80 is still a lot of options lol
it's uswually 40 for attack boons 60 for cast/dash and 80 for veng
left wren
been a while since i beat em4 with ap2
warm notch
404 doom poms not found
left ridge
AP2 below 32 heat is cursed
left wren
well the real problem is em4, i can do ap2 32 easily without em4, the proplem is the dad lmao
depending on what npc he summons you might not make it past first phase
i also dont know what to activate without making the game less fun, the rest of the pact just seems boring
left ridge
FO2 is fun
left wren
nah
left ridge
but I wouldn't recommend it with both EM4 and AP2
left wren
forced overtime messes with my muscle memory
warm notch
just have fo2 on long enough and having it off will mess with your muscle memory instead
little prairie
i also dont know what to activate without making the game less fun, the rest of ...
Damage control can make you play significantly differently. I guess less so on fists
left wren
ima keep it how it is, maybe ill turn on more hp
bold jolt
AP2 below 32 heat is cursed
Ap2 below 45 is cursed
ivory sky
I can handle 32 with em4 pretty well now, it's the not being able to heal at all with lc5 that sucks
warm notch
if you have em4 you should prob not have lc4 on and be using dd's if you have em4 off you should have lc4 and stubborn defiance instead
ivory sky
yeah I prefer em4 since I'm using it to git gud anyway. I meant that I was using bananas' recommended 32 pact and then replaced lc5 with lc1 and em4
warm notch
if you can do em4 then shouldnt stubborn defiance and acorn be enough health for em3 bossing
viscid plaza
Hazard bomb my favorite rail
Really unlucky with boons, trying to get duo boons for prophecies
wouldve liked to get poseidon on special but alas.
ivory sky
artemis special cluster rockets still better but yeah hazard is right behind it
viscid plaza
hazard bomb is slow too, wont be able to do it if i go any higher on TD
strong ravine
drunken flourish
strong ravine
hazard bomb is slow too, wont be able to do it if i go any higher on TD
hazard is very good
viscid plaza
yeah wouldnt give me literally anything good for special
viscid plaza
hazard is very good
i just suck then 
viscid plaza
yeah but i wouldve died in tartarus, i had under 2min when i cleared it
see previous statement
viscid plaza
yeah i know but it would have been not good
I really just want the damn duo boons so i dont have to keep going with garbage boons and builds and meming my way through the game
left ridge
Very meh run, had a pretty bad start because of bad god pool & cores wouldn't fill properly
The only funny part was the fat meg summon who did 7000 damage in total against the heroes
primal crown
carried by rare crop (I'm never playing a common aphro start again)
rain ruin
gud build
primal crown
art stream lmao
fallow vessel
got crush shot as my first and rare crop as second, easy cast build
violet bloom
bold jolt
nice MErthur
autumn bronze
disgusting
ivory sky
this was an amazing run. I had crystal beams and was planning for that and then ares offered an epic swap in tartarus. got every boon to complete the build effortlessly. taking an anvil even gave me targeting system and triple bomb to compliment greater inferno so the special and cast were both perfect
ares call finished hades with 7778 damage
just a perfect build
bold jolt
unmodded gaming
dense yew
wish it'd let me display Zeus call with double strike too
strong ravine
still there
nice 2nd and 3rd hermes lol
the greater evasion swift flourish cope
gud build
strong ravine
also nice jolted poms
dense yew
no rush delivery!!!
strong ravine
no rush delivery!!!
do be how it go
dense yew
also nice jolted poms
it was between jolted and double strike at the end
i dont think i've had a build in this game that comes close to this one though
strong ravine
must not have played beo
dense yew
i finally understand the eris hype after actually putting titan blood into it
dense yew
must not have played beo
i deal twice the damage beo with mirage shot deals by pressing a single button
dense yew
mhm
strong ravine
a third of a beo volley
dense yew
a beo volley is NOT dealing 6k 
strong ravine
i have pics lol
of exactly 6000
let me find
ok they’re really old
but 6k is a standard high damage beo volley with dad call
you usually put out like
4.5k without dad call
dense yew
i've never gotten too lucky in my beo runs
strong ravine
i've never gotten too lucky in my beo runs
i have a lot of beo runs uploaded
https://youtu.be/4NEoJWOAXOM this is where that came from
but i don’t recommend watching that
i play mega garbo in that vid
sharp echo
Dad....MELTED!
bold jolt
Tbf 2 min aspho happens, esp with endless bloodless, jumpy bois, and big rooms
Tart is the more concerning part tbh. At that point I'd reset for pace (depending on your goal) unless you left with mirage shot
Welp
3 min ely certainly isn't helping either
hollow jacinth
Use legacy
bold jolt
Oh you on pride yeah use legacy
Pride is if you're shooting for a top placement
And willing to reset a lot
And then you won't get mirage 4 in a row now lmao
hollow jacinth
2 runs oht of 1000
left ridge
Getting into beo runs since I did all shield aspects sub10
For some reason my summon key didn't work and dad immediately darknessed :(
And didn't get hyper sprint
bold jolt
Based 10% global scaling
left ridge
Yeah I was hesitant to reroll haste at the start but figured I'd try hyper sprint at 3rd hermes
I did not get hyper sprint at 3rd hermes :(
bold jolt
It do be like that sometimes
violet bloom
verbal anchor
Imma sleep well tonight
wary brook
Imma sleep well tonight
I wish this was me
viscid plaza
Few good runs today
wary brook
Few good runs today
How do you get this kind of luck with legacy 💀
I never get anything good
My luck is terrible
wary brook
About what
warm notch
favor 
viscid plaza
Cleared it one last time
Had all 4 wins today.
I hadn't gotten hit once or used a single acorn charge by the time he revived. So I sat there slapping him and spamming call
Think I killed him in under a min. Same with the champions.
Jolted/rupture is fun
wary brook
Where the sub 20s at
viscid plaza
@wary brook I suck
Don't understand how people clear in under 10 let alone under 6
My first clear ever was 36min lmao.
warm notch
most first clears are super long
ivory sky
non stop lightning go brr
viscid plaza
non stop lightning go brr
Holy
left wren
wow completely smoked dad
strong ravine
wow completely smoked dad
can you give me your ap2 hammers
left wren
i had flurry shot and triple shot up until styx, then traded flurry shot for point blank and volley up there
strong ravine
why would you anvil those
those are literally the best possible hammers
well you could get twin instead of triple
but still
strong ravine
damn
warm notch
is that monodash
bold jolt
i always anvil in styx because i never get cshot on beo 😎
left wren
is that monodash <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
i cant stand triple dash, idk why
strong ravine
you only have 2 dashes
warm notch
its additive tho so idk if it makes much of a difference
left wren
i still hate the multiple dash thing, so id still wouldnt take even if it didnt give dmg
warm notch
dodge shenanigans can get funny tho
ivory sky
Holy
as if to slight me for getting everything else right, exclusive access came from charon's styx shop. took it anyway because lol
rotund latch
This is not a noteworthy victory by any means. New file, sixth run. Not very impressive time.
However, by swapping my Hammers, I managed to get Flurry Shot + Point Black Shot + Triple Shot. On Attack that did not, at that point, have a Boon. So I took Normal Athena since nothing better was offered.
I think I killed Hades in about one minute total. I just sat next to him and spammed Attack and his health just melted. It felt like Elder abuse. Hades even dropped some food when he collapsed, so I guess I was mythologically inspired and ate him after or something.
I have never killed Hades that fast on this early a run. I doubt I will get this trio of Hammers ever again. Nothing more, carry on.
primal crown
Blessed anvil
strong ravine
primal crown
bold jolt
what inspired you to do this pact
strong ravine
someone was asking what can do it
and then they posted death on zagshield
so i was like why not
bold jolt
lmao
strong ravine
its not bad tho
bold jolt
i did a similar pact with chaos shield
strong ravine
i pausescummed a little in styx
strong ravine
hl5 fo2
bold jolt
yea
strong ravine
i couldnt lol im so mega bad
ngl it actually would have been fine with the build i got
it was so cracked
bold jolt
i think the joke was to make a super reddit pact by taking everything that buffed enemies and made the run longer without td
like em4, cp2, dc2, etc
strong ravine
nice
primal crown
500+ hangover procs
strong ravine
nice pact
primal crown
just one more run(tm) before bed
golden peak
most normal first spear 32 clear 😊
bold jolt
lmfao
sharp echo
Jazz really innovating the definition of clear screens
warm notch
unmodded stonks
sharp echo
ME kept evading so it all went to just holding Attack while spamming Dashes with the occasional calls.
winter scroll
Typical ME experience
Interspersed with runs where you can't find Impending Doom and/or Dire Misfortune, or Divine Dash, or can't pom your dooms
left ridge
New sword pb
Hestia cast on Poseidon is kinda fun, it's a bit of a slow start but at the end I had 8 homing missiles that could insta phase Theseus
It's the first time I have to take Cerberus' keepsake in a speedrun though, I only had 60 hp and 1 DD going into Elysium 
violet bloom
yoptimal
primal crown
So yoptimal
upper tangle
left ridge
Common aphro 
deep fjord
first run after not playing for a while, i get the juicy ME build
using meg and aphro aid at the same time is a very good way to delete dad's HP btw
primal crown
Betrayal by hermes
deep fjord
yeah my hermes luck has always been bad
sharp echo
first run after not playing for a while, i get the juicy ME build
I really want to get an ME run wherein I proc doom with dash. So far hasnt happened yet
wary brook
I really want to get an ME run wherein I proc doom with dash. So far hasnt happe...
How
It aint that hard
strong ravine
why are you always out here insulting people
sharp echo
if everything was easily obtained, it wouldn't be that much of a roguelite.
and Hades is already very generous in its roguelite-ness with olympian keepsakes. Wonder if they'll keep those in the sequel
wary brook
why are you always out here insulting people
I was dropped as a baby
strong ravine
probably 9
warm notch
yeah
viscid plaza
I wonder if I could even do a sub20 run with no heat lol
strong ravine
magic bane
It aint that hard
yes it is
strong ravine
little prairie
I probably could, but it'd be like 18 mins or something
Give it a shot to see how you like it
primal crown
meh
primal crown
carried by charon selling me hp and dds
strong ravine
good hermes
dense obsidian
first ever run that ends with full health, full defiance!!
6th clear in general
hollow fractal
very casual run trying out hestia
i kinda thought it'd be a bit stronger than it was
strong ravine
i mean
thats a very good build
but like
shawl
and your hestia is at 66% power
and you dont have any dash poms
hollow fractal
this is true
yeah i was trying out shawl
didn't seem super impactful but i kinda wanna max all the keepsakes anyway
hollow fractal
and your hestia is at 66% power
this part is probably huge
strong ravine
yea
magic bane
dog
warm notch
common haste op
golden peak
shield 32 complete
bold jolt
Nice mirage shot
golden peak
violet bloom
hl0 strats
broken atlas
getting there, im missing a few codex entries and i might finish up each weapon bounty to heat 20, i dont know if ill grind those ranks though might need to look up how to max efficiency grind darkness
magic bane
good run but wow that pact
strong ravine
holy crepes
raw pollen
haha rockets go booom
strong ravine
nice divine strike
warm notch
ap2 chiron
raw pollen
wh. what
sharp echo
Dad turned into swiss cheese
sharp echo
Best Phalanx run so far.
winter scroll
This was an interesting one that taught me something. Zagshield can actually be useful, and shield can work well with just basic attack spam, without relying on Zeus gimmicks. The combination of Pulverizing Blow, Athena Attack, and Swift Strike made it possible to deal huge DPS just by spamming the basic attack while constantly deflecting. Against most enemies, it was fairly uncommon to take damage while meleeing them. Region 3 bosses were the biggest exception. You'd think Tidal Dash did most of the work here, but you'd be mistaken, the shield had surprisingly good damage in this setup, although Dash contributed quite a lot too. Spamming the attack could be tiring, so I recommend using a rapid-attack macro (for example via Steam Input); mine is right next to the normal attack button, so it's easy to choose which to use.
sharp echo
My favorite Hera build so far. Even if you don't want to get Rare Crop due to bug, I just love Snow Burst and Killing Freeze on Loaded Cast builds.
digital jackal
For Skelly statue
violet bloom
bold jolt
Based pact
winter scroll
Lucked into the ultimate Zeus+Poseidon build, more or less the dream of every Aspect of Zeus run. The is probably my only run where I actually had enough Zeus, having found all Zeus boons I wanted, which is a long list. Ares and Demeter were courteous enough to get out of the way, and Charon was courteous enough to buy all their boons from me, finishing with 0 trash boons from trash gods. Leaving space for the perfectly-placed Poseidon Attack and Dash, so that all my dashes, dash attacks, standing attacks, and bull rushes would trigger Sea Storm, backing up the Zeus Special. Everything was further boosted by Zeus Legendary and Double Strike. An absolutely thunderous build. Stupid DPS on the final boss. Extra note: Bad News is here because it's supposed to increase damage from all your sources, though I haven't looked at the numbers close enough to check.
magic bane
This was an interesting one that taught me something. Zagshield can actually be ...
yeah cshot is what makes shield so good
80 damage regardless of charge
and you can block
left ridge
Very good build, just sad you didn't have any non-lodging cast
could have been fun with dio cast + scintillating feast
viscid plaza
very casual run trying out hestia
i kinda thought it'd be a bit stronger than it...
Do the attack and dash strike bonuses stack?
strong ravine
yes
hollow fractal
Yeah once i have maxed hestia I'll go for that again
tepid herald
Thanks to the pinned guides & advice from those here, I managed my first clear with the bow! Cheering (while also not ever wanting to pick it up again 😂)
bold jolt
I told her to read through the guide pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
Although I dont remember what they said to do on Hera lmao
strong ravine
maybe we shouldnt link that one anymore
bold jolt
It doesn't have true shot, it had crush trippy and phalanx
Might have gotten vorime'd tbf
tepid herald
Why not? If it got me the clear, then I'd say it was a good guide? Am I wrong?
bold jolt
The guide is fine, your build is just off guide lmao
tepid herald
I didn't get my first clear until run #72. I am still learning what a good build is tho
This is also my first roguelike ever.
strong ravine
there is no escape
winter scroll
while also not ever wanting to pick it up again 😂
Hera and Rama aspects are favorite for quite a few folks. The gameplay is a bit different from Zagbow though
Everything in Hades has hidden depth and needs practice
wary brook
HADES 2 WHENNN
grizzled orbit
April 2027
wary brook
🦐
golden peak
i finished bow
magic bane
you're getting good
winter scroll
This run taught me that contrary to the popular opinion, Poseidon Attack can be pretty good. It opens Sea Storm (Tidal Dash doesn't) and depending on your weapon, can be good at triggering Sea Storm. Pushing enemies around seems to proc Razor Shoals, which can be decent early and mid-game damage. Works with Breaking Wave too. Basically it's not a strong attack by itself, but enables all sorts of other Poseidon damage. Plus, pushing enemies around is decent CC which improves your survivability.
sharp echo
winter scroll
Rare lucky case of ME with both Rush Delivery and Greatest Reflex. Makes for very nice DPS. I normally don't even go for ME, but it's hard to find other options when the game forces Athena on you and there's no other way to DPS. My first Ares was in Region 2 and ME took a while to put together, but I think it was still the right strategy because the run started with random Demeter and none of the gods offered any good boons for a cast build (Chaos didn't either). On Heroes and final boss, this felt significantly easier than my other "melee spear" setups which typically involve a lot of Zeus. Maybe because Athena Dash provides safety, maybe because ME allows high burst damage with hit-and-run attacks, spending less time wailing at the enemy and exposing yourself. Not sure.
magic bane
nice cast
sharp echo
A shame my 2x prometheus stones ran out due to not getting a 2nd tunnel fountain. Hourglass didn't make it.
warm notch
welp
ivory sky
800+ hours and this is the most based charged skewer I've ever had
maybe the most fun spear run ever
over 600 damage per throw
unhealthy fixation shut down dad so many times right as he was about to lazer
magic bane
rod carry
sharp echo
800+ hours and this is the most based charged skewer I've ever had
damn, you're living my dream so far. Hades themed clear screen and all arms 32-cleared.
warm notch
pog 5 sack, based hammers, and lightning phalanx literally sack room in styx
strong ravine
nice hammers
sharp echo
Dash Nova is something I prefer not to get since I don't get used to how far the lunge is
brave charm
Crazy run had some good rng until a 3 sack stopped it from being a sub 14, 3:06 Tartarus, 5:40 Asphodel (Than at chamber 22 at time of 4:25), 9:22 Elysium, 12:35 Entering Dad, and ended up with a 14:18
New personal best
Gilga fists btw
magic bane
press PrtScrn
sharp echo
Might as well be a win. The most barebones boon spread yet so effective.
Both Chaos boons are epic cast dmg
sharp echo
Before ^
After
Finally bought all the furnitures! This whole evening's going to be INTERIOR DECORATING TIME!
golden peak
new pb
hollow jacinth
sub10 soon
primal crown
Gg
deep fjord
i had this exact build but without impending doom die to dad earlier
i really needed the perfect build to pull this off
winter scroll
For some reason this tends to be my experience on Hestia lately. The entire run, nobody offers a half-decent Attack or Special, just end up Shackling it. Also, I'm warming up to Bad News. On the first or second Hermes, you can take Auto Reload as a "cope pick" which unlocks Bad News on the second or third Hermes. On Hestia, this can be better than Hyper Delivery since it means you don't have to dash-attack all the time.
ruby spade
damn, you're living my dream so far. Hades themed clear screen and all arms 32-c...
how do you get the themes for the clear screen?
ruby spade
oh ok thanks
deep fjord
i think you unlock them after 50 clears
artemis and poseidon just refused to give me that duo boon
primal crown
Pride moment
little prairie
Completion!
Lots of nice boosts to your lightning damage there.
Lightning rods would have been nice. Alas
golden peak
mettle compensated
winter scroll
Getting warmed up to using Stygian Soul on Achilles. Getting even one additional ammo is sort of enough and not that unlikely. In this run, Chaos and Artemis were merciful, so I ended up with 5 ammo (on Stygian Soul!). Casts ended up hitting for around 800 (2.4k on a crit), which was frankly ridiculous with so much ammo. When using SS, depending on the boons you find early, you can flex either into a cast build or into an attack build. Zeus damage works fine, ME works fine, non-lodging casts are better with Stygian Soul. This is not as consistent as Infernal Soul for cast builds, but works well if you're comfortable with flexing.
primal crown
completed rail
Where jolted
golden peak
i never saw zeus after the first chamber
bold jolt
Classic
strong ravine
completed rail
nice dc1
violet bloom
golden peak
i tried 40 heat
bold jolt
just get the boons
kind lichen
strong ravine
nice
restive glen
Also first time with sea storm, it was pretty good
jagged rose
First sword sub 10
Poseidon is fun
No double edge and bunch of bad rooms in elysium but we made it work
little prairie
No double edge and bunch of bad rooms in elysium but we made it work
When are you using double edge on pos?
little prairie
Why play pos in that case tho
strong ravine
for cast build
bold jolt
It's the same reason you want flurry jab on Achilles lmao
little prairie
Don't you want to be casting and freeing casts
strong ravine
no
you want to be casting and doing rotation
rotation is still a big chunk of damage
little prairie
When do you cast
little prairie
Even with lightning phalanx?
strong ravine
well thats late into the run
with LP its just cast into cleanup
you shouldnt have to de lodge from enemies and shoot more casts at them
the gimmick of pos isnt as big as the free braid imo
jagged rose
Yeah the casts just murdered everything. I only dislodged casts from bosses
strong ravine
my pb isnt that fast its like a low 7 or something but it was with hunting blades
on pos
winter scroll
Tiny mini-victory in pathing / boon setup: my first Hermes is giving me Greater Recall (which I really like having on cast builds such as Hera) because I stacked Chaos rarity boon, Refreshing Nectar, Yarn of Ariadne (total +30% legendary chance), and brought Lambent Plume to Region 2 just to enable this possibility
fallen dew
Wow - great!
winter scroll
Actually, Refreshing Nectar still has 3 charges, so maybe only Yarn got spent and I only had +20% 🤔
magic bane
nectar and yarn don't stack
brave charm
Got a better run with good rng and a 2 sack slower in every region except for styx and elysium than my 14:18
strong ravine
bold jolt
did you widen it more
magic bane
yea
magic bane
do you actually play like this
or just warp the screenshots
strong ravine
i play like this
little prairie
Back to back hunting blades runs for 40 and 41 heat! Yay
The one that also fully loaded, mirage shot, and deadly reversal went smoother.
bold jolt
Good boons do be good
sharp echo
No clue
strong ravine
heres video https://youtu.be/I3HO5AWAjPM
warm notch
wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide
magic bane
why do you do this again
brave charm
There is no way
warm notch
not wide
strong ravine
it is wide
left wren
heres video https://youtu.be/I3HO5AWAjPM
Looks a very pirated version of a mobile game
brave charm
How? Do you play with that wide screen for Hades but not tf2
strong ravine
doesnt come off wide on print screen
but that's 1280x1024
i stretch it to 1920x1080 in tf2
brave charm
Why?
strong ravine
looks better
strong ravine
its nice
everything is condensed
less strain
dont need to look so far up and down
sharp echo
What you need is more like a UI mod rather than changing reso....
left wren
dont need to look so far up and down
Yeah now you gotta look very far left and right instead
sharp echo
Also you can.....play with the monitor a bit farther from you....
strong ravine
Yeah now you gotta look very far left and right instead
?
it doesnt change horizontal size
left wren
To each their own I guess, that looks so uncomfortable lmao. I can't even read the stuff
sharp echo
Its like you did these changes because youre playing on a laptop......or from a movie screen
strong ravine
im on laptop
sharp echo
Figures.
strong ravine
i like how it looks more
hollow fractal
just nohit hades with this build
hestia rail
48% bonus butterfly after i closed that menu lol
hard solar
No screenshot, but I started a fresh file run and got out on run 2. I'm quite proud of that. Epic jolted on lightning rod did a lot of the work tbh. Though getting tiny vermin didn't help. 9 health left at the end of Day.
ruby spade
oooftt, nice one!
magic bane
Literally the most nerve-wracking last 20 seconds of my life
maybe because you had cp2 on
little prairie
No screenshot, but I started a fresh file run and got out on run 2. I'm quite pr...
Sword?
hard solar
Sword?
Bow. The first run got me 85 darkness and a key, so I had 1 DD, 2 dashes and the bow. I got Zeus special, splash dash with razor shoals, Artemis attack and epic jolted. Picked up lightning rod just before heroes.
And had 2 casts for both heros and Dad thanks to wells.
Lucky run really.
little prairie
Eyy
Sounds like a nice early run. Strats like tagging with bow special for jolted is the kind of thing I miss
winter scroll
Bog-standard Hestia, but:
- In Region 1, it hits for 500-600+
- In Region 2, it hits for 700+
- In Region 3, it hits for 800+
- In Region 4, it hits for 900+
- Final boss: it hits for 950
Requires Dash-Attacking. Much easier with a macro. I knew Hestia could be very strong, but this still surprised me with ease of use and performance.
winter scroll
I knew someone was gonna comment on that. Tempest Strike is usually not recommended due to low %, but in this case it was probably the best choice. The missing % compared to, let's say, Aphrodite, is pretty low. It would be like 50 damage at best. But Tempest Strike opened Exclusive Access which gave me better quality of other boons, provided excellent CC by pushing enemies, and additional damage with Razor Shoals. Unfortunately it was a little difficult to read the numbers so I'm not sure how much I got out of Razor Shoals.
strong ravine
it's still awful
winter scroll
Ultimately any % attack would have worked fine in this slot, because I got so much more % out of other sources
strong ravine
pushing sucks
winter scroll
Pushing them into obstacles damages them. I wasn't gonna use Tidal Dash because of Hunter Dash. Unfortunately I never got Breaking Wave or Typhoon Fury (or whatever it's called). But there's some built-in damage from collisions. In Region 3 I was noticing enemies surviving my shot on a tiny sliver of HP and then dying due to pushback into a wall, so hey, pushing did some damage
Not sure how much though
Also this is a rare very pleasant case of all-Epic+ boons
warm notch
yeah i think youd be better off with tdash
winter scroll
Wasn't ready to give up 120 Attack damage from Hunter Dash
Either one would work out fine though
warm notch
less than that since you could take aphro attack and tdash does a ton of damage
winter scroll
In theory in a perfect build, sure. In practice... I've had quite a few recent Hestia runs where I kept looking for a good Aphrodite Attack boon the entire run and it never dropped. So I'm not so sold on that anymore
strong ravine
shackle is fine
winter scroll
It's alright but I'd rather just take an Epic Attack boon that's being offered (and opens Exclusive Access, giving me Epic Hunter Dash and RD!), and move on
Shackle has the cost of not having another keepsake
Not that this would have mattered
strong ravine
vernal shadow
22.22 flat haha
winter scroll
See? I took a damage!
strong ravine
such high cost
vernal shadow
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Woah
Good work!
strong ravine
not me lol
vernal shadow
Oh