h1-victory-boasting

[bold jolt]

The pact you used for 32 heat is similar to a pact used for 40 heat

[meager trench]

Oh!

Wdym used? Are there like ideal setups people have come up with?

[bold jolt]

Yeah, some pacts are much easier than others even if they have the same number

Like for 32 heat, it's generally recommended to pick between hard labor 5 or forced overtime 2. Taking both is what's normally done at 40

[meager trench]

Huh, I kinda get what you mean, I don’t think I’d be able to clear 20 heat if I had the thing that makes traps 200% worse

[meager trench]

Where do I read about these lol, I just kinda guessed what would be difficult 💀

[bold jolt]

I have a 32 heat basics guide pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

There aren't really any resources past that since most players don't care about past 32

Afaik anyways

[meager trench]

I see! Thanks a lot!

[vale ermine]

Not much of a boast but my first victory

[primal crown]

Where is the message for the first clear

[vale ermine]

Idk

[hollow remnant]

first clear is a big thing tho!
also, never see that without the titel :O

[bold jolt]

turns out long knuckle and jolted make this a whole lot easier

tart jolted

also ddash replaced mistral dash lmao

dc2 instead of ap1 made this so much easier too

[ivory sky]

launcher on dem is so fun

[bold jolt]

it was honestly pretty strong lmao

a full power shot did 1.4k iirc

the added range was super helpful in dad fight

and a snappier special with swift flourish made it a lot less punishing to use the special

was hoping to get smair from yarned zeus boon and an aphrodite boon but didn't get it

[polar cosmos]

this build was pretty fun ngl

also the only thing I had planned was to get ares special the other parts of the build I thought and decided on the go

or should I say.. on the run

[brazen echo]

I just went on a throwaway run only getting resources and boon choices i normally dont get when i get the option to so i can dk the prophecies, and then i just won. very unexpected but im not complaining

[ivory sky]

decided to do a dem run in hopes of getting launcher, got both that and crit lasers. very fun run

[vestal pagoda]

32 heat with no lc4, no td3, no uc, damn

[brazen echo]

Don't mind the one heat part, im very new

[strong ravine]

if ur still on 1 heat id definitely avoid damage control

thats one of the worst value for heat things in the game

[brazen echo]

really? it seems to not have effected my runs barely any

what should I do instead

[strong ravine]

extreme measure 1 and 2 are very easy

tight deadline 1 is clearly not an issue

and if you pause during decisions you could probably make td2

middle management is pretty simple

and is also a fun addition

benefits package and underworld customs once you get to like 12+

[brazen echo]

alrighty

thank you for the tips

[real oar]

The most fun I think I’ve ever had

Literally just held the special

Almost hit sub 10…

[hollow remnant]

Wat
Ooh, is not the same run
My world almost shatered with a rama special close to sub10

[strong ravine]

thats definitely possible

[hollow remnant]

Wat²

[ivory sky]

all this plus ice wine. a good chunk of time was spent on a 5 sack, if not for that i think it'd be my quickest clear vs em4

[mellow cairn]

I though more ppl would have this on Steam

[hollow remnant]

new PB

[primal crown]

Slowly getting to that sub 10

[hollow remnant]

If I played just a lil better
If I got a lil more lucky

Zag_Again.mp3

I love this game 💖

[bold jolt]

big gaming

[boreal silo]

Just cleared the game cord the second time on my first and only run on the day 🥳 - I’m getting hang of this after a year plus‼️

One Heat Club ❤️‍🔥

[brazen echo]

my heart is beating so fast rn

[polar cosmos]

the run from yesterday @strong ravine

[left ridge]

40 heat sword, that was the last one to have all weapons done at 40 heat

[mellow cairn]

Is it frown upon to use God Mode in the community? New to the game. And have beaten Hades twice once with god mode and the other without it.

[left ridge]

Nah, you do you
The aim of the game is to have fun, if you like it better like that there's no one judging you for it

[silk thistle]

dash-only run

[brazen minnow]

Way too close, used wrong keepsake for Tartarus and barely beat hades with no DD the whole fight

[mellow cairn]

took a bit but I liked the 3 round burst with lighting bouncing all around.

[brazen minnow]

wait you chose a deadulus upgrade that makes it so you dont reload on hestia aspect?

[rain ruin]

You’ll still be able to reload so it basically does nothing

[brazen minnow]

oh ok

[rain ruin]

But this is more like budget Eris not Hestia so it’s gud

[mellow cairn]

yeah i can reload and the first shot on the three round burst did extra damage but i did not use it much as I just dash 3 round burst and dash again. Felt like a totally different game lol

[west cargo]

I also had blackout btw. Also, thunder flourish on Lucifer is fun

[hollow remnant]

new PB with beo
I forgot to change the mirror, maybe thats why I didnt get the most important part of a beo cast 😂

I love cast builds because I love support fire

turns out, dash-strike to bull rush really helps
thanks banana man 😅

[hollow jacinth]

Mirage shot at home

[bold jolt]

so much extra security i didn't even need lmao

that's all weapons done at 40 heat

i guess 45 is next since i'm halfway done already lmao

[strong ravine]

is that veng or LR

[strong ravine]

25%

[bold jolt]

LR

[bold jolt]

wdym

[strong ravine]

you have to do sword and fists

[bold jolt]

and spear

[strong ravine]

GY not bad

[bold jolt]

well i still have to do it

[strong ravine]

yeah but you could probably pull it off first try

[bold jolt]

eh

might do achilles since that's more fun

[strong ravine]

fists is sus and sword is like hard

[boreal silo]

Making progress! I would have never die if it was for the 2 heat restrictions but I’m 2 for 2 since asking more in-depth questions

[brazen minnow]

Nice

Wouldn’t recommend Zeus on special though

[left ridge]

New gilgamesh pb, I'm trying to get all aspects under 12 minutes

[vale ermine]

Sorry for the bad quality but my second win

[boreal silo]

Thank you‼️ I am a work in progress

[ivory sky]

wish something cooler had happened here but bad boon choices. 1k every time doom hit was fun tho

[hollow remnant]

doom go boom is always cool

[vestal pagoda]

beauty

[left ridge]

I started this run as a "alright, I hate chaos, I think it's the worst non-zag aspect of the entire game"
And then I got low tolerance but sold my only weak source
And then I didn't realise I had opened sea shanty when I was going for exclusive access in early asphodel
And then I got curse of nausea and hyper delivery in late asphodel
It's only after the heroes that I started thinking "wait I might actually get a sub10 out of this"
Didn't get blackout though, so that's a bit sad, especially since it could have saved me the last few seconds for a sub9 :c

[grizzled orbit]

so you're saying that the aspect is bad until you found damage that comes from everything but the aspect itself lol

v nice clear

[ivory sky]

chaos aspect should be a lot better since it both looks the coolest and sprang directly from the primordial originator

[boreal silo]

New Record 🥳 I’m really trying to understand my Dmg out out for these weapons. But a win is a WIN for the bros‼️ 🥳 *I want a legendary boon soon

[brazen minnow]

If you check Achilles’s codex you can see the requirements for legendary boons to even have a chance to appear

[boreal silo]

Cool thanks 👍🏾

[left ridge]

I used the special to apply all the hangover at once, it's basically the only good use of the special afaik

[rotund latch]

Not really "victory boasting", but discussion does not allow pictures:
Had a timed room with enemies making ghost copies. One of the ghosts still hang around though the timer has run down. I am hesitant to kill it, but I do think it might kill me while using the well. :b

Never seen that one before. :b

Update: I used the Well (fast), left the room and Casper the Homicidal Ghost was left behind. Hades pacifist run any%, here I come.

[vale ermine]

Well that was a pain

[whole raft]

imagine picking Demeter boon and met clone room + Elysium champion do the boom clone jutsu. Can't tell the different when there are more than 10 clones

[left ridge]

Half a second away from sub12 I hadn't realised I still had a summon

[hollow remnant]

3sack
sssssslooooooowllyyyy getin to the sub10

I think If I was just a bit more agressive with rolls I could have done the sub10

[bold jolt]

still a pretty good run

[hollow remnant]

thx, I got duble edge in the start hammer, I left tart at almost 3 mins, ASPHODEL* at 5m
felt like I played quite badly

[brazen minnow]

I’m sorry left ely at 5 mins

w h a t

[hollow remnant]

OH

MY BAD

[grizzled orbit]

mfw 6 minute styxdad

[hollow remnant]

well, the sack was in the 3th tunnel, so CLEARLY

[viral elm]

wait what is sea shanty, ive never heard of this boon

[hollow jacinth]

It’s a mod

[viral elm]

ah i see, thanks

[left ridge]

OlympusExtra https://www.nexusmods.com/hades/mods/123

[sullen hornet]

yoo I beat EM4 on precisely my 100th run!

[limpid flame]

i was hunting for duo boons :) im surprised i got the dionysus and aphrodite one bc i literally only saw an aphrodite boon once the entire run

[dense wadi]

First sub 10!

[blissful pollen]

infinite i-frame run (yet somehow i still almost lost </3)

also beating em4 2 times in a row somehow

[limpid flame]

ok this one the luck was actually insane

[blissful pollen]

that is a lot of duos

[left ridge]

Now that's better, sub10 gilgamesh
I'm a bit annoyed I couldn't get rush delivery nor impending doom but I got pretty luck with free rooms in elysium

[bold jolt]

Also common doom lmao nice

[left ridge]

Yeah I keep getting common doom lately

[bold jolt]

well you aren't running pride

so that doesn't help lmao

[strong ravine]

on legacy epic core is hard 2 get

when i played legacy on beo i saw grey vast majority and blue sometimes

now im on pride it's a lot of grey a little blue and a decent portion of purple

[sullen hornet]

I accidentally didn't screenshot the build but:
igneous eden with flash fire, piercing fire, support fire,
tempest strike and sea storm.
Also had both crystal clarity and mirage shot lol

[left ridge]

Well I need ME so yes

[strong ravine]

on ME you run pride

[left ridge]

I'll try that next time I guess

[strong ravine]

every ME run runs the risk of never seeing the green boon

[west cargo]

This was fun. Ares saved my ass in the final phase of hades fight

Btw I just unlocked Gilgamesh, what are the odds that I’m going to win my first run with this new aspect as well? Done it with over half of my aspects lmao

[sullen hornet]

No Discord on your PC?

[strong ravine]

gilga sucks

if theres any aspect youd die on itd be gilga

[hollow remnant]

itd?

[strong ravine]

it'd

[hollow remnant]

ooooooooh

sorry, Im not fluent I see

[strong ravine]

internet speak is not real dw

[left ridge]

Guan yu: I'm about to end this whole aspect's career

[strong ravine]

well the thing there is that on guan yu you can actually make the aspect hit enemies and kill them

[west cargo]

I made it to lernie and then had to go to work so guess we’ll have to wait and see

[brazen minnow]

Gilga is my go to for fists

It’s def guan yu that’s the hardest to make work

[ivory sky]

i find both gilgamesh and guan yu easier to use than lucifer minus triple bomb

[strong ravine]

you need 1 hammer and you're good

on gilga you need like 20 boons and then it's on the level of like talos on a bad day

[brazen minnow]

I personally just find Gilga easier

If you mess up with Guan, it’s bad and you need to dedicate more effort to heal than Normal, and with gilga, the same mistake isn’t twice as bad

[ivory sky]

maim can be actually useful, like dealing with lernie heads. but overall the fists don't have anything that stands out as great

I feel the same way about the bow too

[brazen minnow]

you have less heath and heals so mistakes are worse with guan

and I’m not good enough to avoid all the attacks on most enemies

we should move to #h1-builds-and-combat

[hollow remnant]

4 sack
I learned somthing today

me entering styx;

I got the oportunity of purgin the shot
I felt like I should
but I didnt...

[strong ravine]

curse of longing

blocks out ME

[hollow remnant]

well, it was the last ares

[strong ravine]

none in shop?

[hollow remnant]

was the shop one

[strong ravine]

yep

[hollow remnant]

actually, let me check

I recorded it

[strong ravine]

well at least now you wont open unnecessary duos

[hollow remnant]

shop had a athena and an ares
athena gave me parting shot
Ares curse of longin

I should have taken blood frenzy and hoped for the ares on normal tunner to give me ME or impending

[hollow remnant]

...
athena and ares on shop
athena and ares on normal tunnels... ones that I took after the bosses cuz 4 sack

[hollow remnant]

Only took me 771 hours to learn

[hollow remnant]

another sub11 :D
I only got zeus atak on mid aspho
was using the cast for dmg after that

[left ridge]

What keepsake did you start with if it wasn't Zeus?

Poseidon?

[hollow remnant]

I did start with zeus, but I didnt got atak, then I rolled, and didnt got atak again, to I acepted the epic cast

I DID IT!
I BE GAMING, I DID THE SUB10

[left ridge]

Ah I'm too used to modded the speedrun mods always shows up the 4 cores for the first boon you get

Nice!

[hollow remnant]

Yeah, I know. but the vanilla still feels amazing for me, so I still a no-mod gal

[left ridge]

Fair

[hollow jacinth]

Niiiice congrats

[dense wadi]

Managed to no hit hades on 32 heat with Rama

[little prairie]

What's that? Like it stops ME from working?

[brazen minnow]

No I think it just stops you from even having it in the first place

[hollow jacinth]

Not quite

That boon slot with the duo had a 50/50 chance of being ME or curse of longing

If they didnt have crush shot it would have been ME

[little prairie]

Ah

It is disappointing ME doesn't have slight mostly unused synergy with longing

And it just ends the doom overriding longing

I guess they didn't want you getting the extra 40 damage without reapplying doom

[strong ravine]

but also it does stop you from getting me

[hollow jacinth]

They’re not mutually exclusive

[strong ravine]

col and me?

[digital jackal]

yeah you can have both

doesn't do much but you can do it

[strong ravine]

idek where i got that idea from

oh i got it from a speedcord message

ive been MISINFORMED

[hollow jacinth]

Yeah they aren’t but they might as well be

[west cargo]

Hey I am about to fight hades on my first gilg run. I got no lives left but I’m full health, wish me luck!!

Damn, I accidentally left the cover of the pillar while trying to destroy one of the skulls. I swear I could’ve won that

Ik it’s not a win but I still think it’s worth boasting about

[bold jolt]

reverse ME gaming

[strong ravine]

zagbow sub8

[ivory sky]

32 clear, first one on this save too. "victory, thy name is skelly"

[bold jolt]

good news: got build and funny orange boon
bad news: i can't aim and not many free rooms

[bold jolt]

zag bow take two

got better boons

surprisingly consistent lmao

[strong ravine]

im hesitant to take aph atk

feels like its playing chiron a lot of the time

probably averages out in boss fights but with arty attack and marked i was basically one shot critting every enemy in ely

granted the crits were also like 1k

[bold jolt]

i deleted my recordings because they weren't sub10 lmao

so idk how much damage i was doing

tdash was doing most of the work tho it felt like

[sullen hornet]

Why can't we post images in channels other than this? not everything is a victory screen

Anyway it looks like the narrator has something incredibly important to say lmao

[dense wadi]

Very goofy hangover build

[sharp echo]

Finally! My first victory. Required God Mode 22% though.

[west cargo]

Oky so I didn’t win my first Gilgamesh run but I won my second!!!

I actually beat Charon in Tartarus while only losing two lives!!

Didn’t even find a single centaur heart before that

Those extra dashes are life savers

[fluid fox]

My first was a dumpster fire

[fluid fox]

Noice

Wait god mode?

Dang

[fluid fox]

Seems reasonable

[fluid fox]

Was this mainly a dash build

[bold jolt]

it was probably like 70% of the damage tbh lmao

[strong ravine]

lvl3 common

nice

[bold jolt]

3 dashes tho

[fluid fox]

Dash build fun but dangerous in Asphodel

[bold jolt]

it's not too bad tbh

i did 32 heat dash only a bit ago and asphodel wasn't too bad

[fluid fox]

First run of da day

[primal crown]

That's a lot of Pos

[bold jolt]

i got all rat rooms except like 1 i think

styx rd

i've never seen so many rat rooms in a row before

[ivory sky]

rats! 🐀

[bold jolt]

my time 😭

[strong ravine]

idk why i did this

basically unmodded

only thing on was dontgetvorimed

[bold jolt]

Gaming

[left ridge]

Legacy is such a scam, I had duos opened since tart and didn't get a single one
Got a neat little sub10, which is both a new guan yu and spear pb

[fluid fox]

How do u get it to show u ur game time and real time

Also I just went full Zeus

[bold jolt]

Speedrunning modpack

One of the features it has

[fluid fox]

Dang

I play on switch

[sharp echo]

I plan to erase it after I max Eris

Even though it's only abusing 22% damage reduction, it's still a massive carry one way or another

[willow root]

gg Hades for the 3rd time

Can’t really see it bc of my camera skills

[strong ravine]

cool damage

[grizzled orbit]

why 10 heat gaming

[strong ravine]

didnt notice

till i got strong drink

i had to remove heat blindly because i accidentally reset in chaos earlier

in a 32 heat run

so i must have forgotten how to count to 4

but at least i counted to 3

[ivory sky]

all this plus braid of atlas for 6k damage per burst. I don't think I've ever had this combo before

blizzard shot should inflict chill too imo but it's still good

[strong fiber]

Oml I am ngl just beat the game and beat it 2 more times today yo y’all are yo good fr

[red moth]

genuine questions, does this kind of Screenshots count as spoiler? bcs you know summon and stuff?

[strong ravine]

only spoiler free channel is #h1-for-new-players

[potent flower]

was this good for a first time merciful end run i felt p strong lol

[strong ravine]

could have had more poms but thats pretty good

[bold jolt]

yeah just needs poms

the only other thing that stands out is common dash but at least it's something lmao

[strong ravine]

oh yeah this could use pride as well

guarantee this was on legacy

[lunar peak]

Finally beat Hades last night with extreme measures cranked all the way up

I hated that

[hollow remnant]

ANOTHER SUB10

but that was an eris moment so not thaat big of a deal
this was a 3 sack, not much free rooms

[sharp echo]

I hope I can get as lucky as this run again. Eris Cluster Rockets are insane. And I even got Poseidon's Legendary to boot.

[hollow remnant]

Special only eris POG

[sharp echo]

It's very fun

My type of melee build. Also Boon Purger. I've sold so many.

[little prairie]

Grab that heat pact maybe lol

I hate purging booms and even I accept it's maybe the easiest 2 heat

[sharp echo]

if you know it in advance, you can easily plan to get an extra boon simply for throwing away

[little prairie]

I'm usually going for specific duos so I get excited when I get only the gods and boons I'm going for for those, and a bunch of poms on a key boon, and then have to sell one.

Recently had heartbreak strike, drunken flourish, and curse of vengeance all set up for crazy good hang over, and then had to sell one.

[left ridge]

Now I understand what everyone means by "Arthur is so slow"
I had an amazing start but didn't get any free room in Elysium so it took me 4 minutes
Well at least it's a new Arthur pb and sub12

[brazen minnow]

My god this is way too much damage

[bold jolt]

Straight up just dash strike with Arthur if you can guarantee double edge lmao

It's faster

If you hit the dash strikes

[strong ravine]

hold mouse1

[bold jolt]

Don't take tdash tho it makes it a lot more painful

[strong ravine]

arthur tech hold mouosuoemouosuouemououose

why does itit do that when i type mosue

butu

if you hold mouose1 and dash iti works

[left ridge]

(I can't guarantee hammers because that feature is broken with OlympusExtra)
I did a bit of both in the end

[strong ravine]

lmao

[bold jolt]

putting the Any into AnyHeat category

damn that's a really good build lmao

nice chaos

wait that's a cursed aspho exit tf

[strong ravine]

yea lmfao

i was just playing random run

[bold jolt]

1.5 min ely damn

[strong ravine]

33+34 skip

[bold jolt]

my sub8 had a 2.5 min ely lmao

[strong ravine]

well 34+35

yeah i just got skips

dad fight sucked though

because the blades kept going to the gd archers

[bold jolt]

better than mine because we had the same styx exit lmfao

6:56 styx exit into whatever end time

[rain ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857268448039927858/1128406647690235997/image.png

For the rta enjoyers

[bold jolt]

So true bestie

[ivory sky]

sub5 is insane to me and always will be

[hollow jacinth]

this one is hypermodded, so they are a fair bit more common

still mighty impressive, but the low 11 RTA time is better

[strong ravine]

for the shoppers

[hard solar]

New personal best for farming darkness. Ironically I got it just after getting to rank Unseen One.

Nearly 4300 for the entire run if you include the fish I caught.

[magic finch]

it's lucky to get 4 chaos at all

[strong ravine]

was on talos so chaos other than favor isnt too massive

4 favors would be funny though

[hard solar]

Yeah. I'll often get 2 or 3, but 4 is lucky.

[brazen minnow]

Last 3 runs in a row I’ve had my dps boon be level 8 what luck

[bold jolt]

Rip impending poms tho

[brazen minnow]

It was a Styx shop boon

[bold jolt]

oh fair enough

[bold jolt]

zag bow "gaming"

[little prairie]

How did dash strikes pair with flurry? They always feel funky to me but I guess this works well with tidal

[bold jolt]

you can still dash strike but it's still kinda weird yeah

[strong ravine]

probably like arthur

[bold jolt]

i prob shouldn't have picked it tbh but eh

other options were special hammers

[strong ravine]

flurry is good hammer

[bold jolt]

counterpoint: i'm bad at aiming

[strong ravine]

counterpoint: git gud

counterpoint: just hit them

counterpoint: but the dps

[bold jolt]

no dps if i don't hit them and gitting gud takes too much time and i don't have the patience to learn aiming on bow

[little prairie]

I definitely miss even more without flurry lol

[strong ravine]

my first relatively fast dad kill was a flurry zagbow run

was like 45s triple flurry

the first one i uploaded was like 2 min arthur though

[bold jolt]

without flurry i at least have some time to aim a bit more lmao

[strong ravine]

have u considered

more flurry = more shoot

more shoot = higher hit chance

[little prairie]

Lol I some times do tracer shots with flurry before loading casts on hera

[bold jolt]

have you considered brain off when flurry

[little prairie]

Pew pew

[dense wadi]

Cluster rockets is really annoying to get but fun once you do

[little prairie]

Dreamy build

Do you even have the weak lasting longer boon? I guess it's not hard to reapply during the cool down. Build looks good on Eris or Hestia

[dense wadi]

Yeah I had epic empty inside which im pretty sure makes weak last 10 seconds longer, so I basically had heart rend active permenantly

[little prairie]

Amazing

[left ridge]

sub12 with Lucifer

[ivory sky]

triple bomb makes or breaks luci

never tried the apollo/zeus duo on mods, how good is it

[left ridge]

It's kinda like scintillating feast
With jolted it's stronger, without it's decent but not as good
I only got two zeus boons of the entire run so that was a bit unlucky

[west cargo]

Well this run was disappointing. I tried so hard to get that last Poseidon boon, and had no luck with that OR luck with getting rare ones either

[vale ermine]

Nice driftblim plush

[jovial grove]

got meg fifth try yippieeee :)

not a real clear-win but a smol win

[turbid island]

Teehee

[strong ravine]

why ruthless reflex

[turbid island]

Idk just kind of went with it

The others weren’t too good

[strong ravine]

greater reflex is the most important mirror option

gives u a lot of safety

[turbid island]

Oh thanks! Kind of new so I’ll keep that in mind next time

[strong ravine]

yea

rest looks good tho

also nice clear

seems quick

since u only have 2 sections of mirror

[sullen hornet]

Why can't I steal Theseus' spear?

It's right there for the taking lmao

[sullen hornet]

115% crit chance lol

[strong ravine]

87?

pomming deadly strike doesnt affect crit chance

that's flat 15%

well

117

accounting for nem

[sullen hornet]

technically the consistent single target crit rate is only 47. 67 if near enough projectiles

[ivory sky]

crit noise followed by huge number is arguably the best feeling in the game

a whole run of it must've been fun

[sullen hornet]

Was a tough choice between heavy slam and flurry blade. I chose flurry so I could hear the crit noise that much more often lol

I attempted to get Artemis' other duo boons with dio and aphro but they never showed :(

[strong ravine]

on nem marked is basically permanently active in rooms

[sullen hornet]

*when attacking 2 or more things next to or at least near eachother

[strong ravine]

which is basically always

as long as you're manipping

[sullen hornet]

not in bossfights, which is when is really matters

[strong ravine]

i said rooms

[sullen hornet]

ah

[strong ravine]

also

the range is nearly double that of a rail shot

pretty far

[sullen hornet]

Pretty far distance to travel to make use of the mark

[ivory sky]

now I wanna do a nem run

[strong ravine]

enemies usually aren't that far apart

as long as you're manipping

[sullen hornet]

I try. But asphodel has some very big rooms with things that like to jump to the other side

And/or only spawn 3 enemies at once

[strong ravine]

in aspho with big rooms there are usually spots to manip near wherever you are

if you lava manip

[warm notch]

zoos balanced

[hollow jacinth]

welcome back

[flat bison]

Ive done over 70 runs and its first time im seeing the Companion Battie, how do you aquire this?

[left ridge]

You have to max hearts with Meg

Pretty weird run, only got ME in mid ely and 2nd Athena boon in Styx
Legit entered the dad fight at 9:07 thinking "there's no way I'll do this under a minute without impending" but it worked, got sub10 with Talos
Now I understand why Demeter > Talos

[vale ermine]

My fastest run and its on my least favourite infernal arm

[ashen elm]

I splurged a little too hard

[ivory sky]

fun run with nemesis

[left ridge]

I feel like Zeus shield is probably very strong if you know how to play it but I don't
Left Tartarus with two duos and got black out in aspho but the gameplay still felt pretty clunky

[west cargo]

My fifth win in a row!!

With doom attack, impending doom, and dire misfortune on Lucifer, my doom damage was hitting for like over 800 each, and with pressure points, sometimes crit for 2k

I also had triple bomb on the special which is awesome with crit

[brazen minnow]

Not a win but a funny lil useless bug

[deep fjord]

i beat EM4 on my first try and forgot to take a screenshot :(
this is all the proof i have
it was very close, got down to 10% HP after Asterius and other guy, if i lost any death defiance then i wouldn't have survived

[strong ravine]

cursed build

[deep fjord]

yeah lmao

i atleast had some good backstab damage

[vale ermine]

hestia goated aspect

[deep fjord]

best boss killing weapon for me

didn't get a good attack build the whole run

[strong ravine]

could always shackle

[deep fjord]

curse of pain and impending doom were both level 3 so my doom effect dealt a crapton of damage

[deep fjord]

i have it on level 1

[strong ravine]

still 75 per attack

[deep fjord]

sure
but acorn

[strong ravine]

oh yea

[deep fjord]

i got down to like 25% HP on my last life in the final fight

[strong ravine]

well what did u start with

ddash?

[deep fjord]

yeah

[strong ravine]

what into aspho

[deep fjord]

uhh i don't get your funny words
i'm new to the whole hades community

[strong ravine]

what did u take into asphodel

[deep fjord]

ddash is divine dash right?

[strong ravine]

yea

[deep fjord]

like keepsake?
ares cus i wanted merciful end but forgot Ddash doesn't work for that

[strong ravine]

ME on hestia is super cursed

easier to take aph

[deep fjord]

yeah i should have
i just heard merciful end is good and realised i have an ares and athena boon so i went for it

[strong ravine]

it's good on like most things

[deep fjord]

idk how this build didn't die

[strong ravine]

rail just has better prospects

[deep fjord]

oh i forgot i had ravenous will lmao
missed out on the free damage and defence

How did I survive this
-hades newbie (not even 50 runs and I don't use rail a lot)
-cursed build
-aspect I only got comfortable using 2 days earlier

To be honest I don't know how many runs is considered a lot

[west cargo]

Well this was fun

So much lightning

Also I did have rush delivery

[hollow jacinth]

Nice

[strong ravine]

thats a lot of things to crit with

big pp

[west cargo]

Yeeee

[odd trail]

Artemis pretty much carried the run

[strong ravine]

splash start

[warm notch]

Eris go brrr

[strong ravine]

nice build

[west cargo]

This was supposed to be a heart rend crit build but ended up being a cast build instead

[strong ravine]

conclusion of playing 1 run of rta: i do not like rta

[west cargo]

What does rta stand for

[strong ravine]

real time attack

[bold jolt]

rta kinda hard

i mean looks like you did pretty well

sub14 pretty solid

[strong ravine]

idek what a sub14 corresponds to

epic rd is epic

[bold jolt]

i mean idk either lmao

but most rta runs are generally like sub15? i feel like sub14 is a good rta start lmao

15 min rta kinda good tho tbh

[strong ravine]

i mean i did skip 31-33 i think

shop midboss fountain or something

[deep fjord]

Hermes carrying the run as always
i had the requirements for artemis legendary boon but i didn't get it
also went through every single room of styx and didn't get a single charon well

hera is pretty good

[brazen minnow]

First 32 heat run completed

[warm notch]

hey you beat td3

[bold jolt]

Classic td2 run that beat td3 lmao

[little prairie]

Nice big heat jumps

[brazen minnow]

If I got unlucky with Styx I would have died to timer

If it was TD3

[left ridge]

On my first 32 heat beo run I had to do all satyr tunnels so I can relate

[little prairie]

Td0 em4 all satyr tunnels more game

[oak ridge]

Beat it for the first time

Wasn't 50 mins, i was afk for a bit. More like 43 mins

[strong ravine]

screenshot redux

[hollow remnant]

By fathers name moment

[deep fjord]

Hestia is goated
managed to beat EM4 dad while using 0 death defiances

[little prairie]

Nice. Do note that swift strike only affects standing attacks. I learned that one recently. Works if you're not just dash striking with hestia

[strong ravine]

swift strike doesn't affect hestia whatsoever as long as you're playing normally

it affects the delay between shots

which like

you're shooting one shot every 0.75 s

[little prairie]

"Normally"

[strong ravine]

well like

a non empowered shot is gonna deal

[bold jolt]

if you're not reloading every shot then you're playing bad eris lmao

[strong ravine]

6.7% the damage of an empowered one

[bold jolt]

tbf i'd consider playing hestia normally as "reloading every shot"

[strong ravine]

yea thats 0.75s

[little prairie]

Hey, what if they got unhealthy fixation and weren't going for speed.

[strong ravine]

?

[bold jolt]

reloading every shot on hestia isn't a matter of speed, it's just a matter of using the aspect the way it's intended to

if we called playing for speed "normal" then chiron's "normal" is just twin shot and ignore special

[strong ravine]

well

it would actually be hit epic rd with flurry and fds

[deep fjord]

Don't tell me I placebo effected myself into thinking I was reloading faster

[strong ravine]

yea

u did

[deep fjord]

The build was still pretty good
Nothing insane but decent consistent damage

[little prairie]

Would be nice if it did lol

[strong ravine]

wouldnt make sense tho

[deep fjord]

I went from not liking gun to a Hestia main in like 3-4 days

[strong ravine]

thats how i was

[deep fjord]

I rebound reload to one of the side buttons on my mouse and suddenly it just felt so much better to use

[low wolf]

first post ever here. felt really proud of this one.

extreme measures hades is officially beat

[hidden lake]

I am 3 for 3 in times the anvil gave me cursed slash for sword and i almost lose a run

[strong ravine]

[bold jolt]

Nice sub7

[strong ravine]

pb tart exit

[edgy willow]

what does the "Middle Management Cutter" title mean?

[strong ravine]

killed all 3 midbosses with mm on

or

maybe 4

oh

5+

5+ Miniboss encounters total across Tartarus, Asphodel, Elysium, and Styx with the Middle Management Pact option enabled

[edgy willow]

ohhh i see, thanks

i should've connected those dots

[deep fjord]

my 50th run
16 heat, beat EM4 with no DD's used and got a new best time

[strong ravine]

certified tempest strike moment

[deep fjord]

I got wave pounding so it was pretty good

[strong ravine]

rare lvl3 tempest strike + wave pounding = less than shackle

[deep fjord]

Wait they aren't multiplicative?

[rain ruin]

No

Everything is additive except movement speed and trap damage

[left ridge]

Decent build but ended up being slower than I'd liked, no story rooms, fountain had a conflict with midshop and only one chaos gate :(

Epic RD in Tart was neat tho

[dense wadi]

Dash only build

[deep fjord]

achilles cast build kinda op ngl

[little prairie]

And damage reduction, right?

[little prairie]

Other than maybe a few more poms, pretty perfect looking hunting blades build

How did you grab that heroic?

[deep fjord]

eurydice

[rain ruin]

Yup

[deep fjord]

yeah i got unlucky with some of the poms

[little prairie]

Are the damage boosts from like crystal clarity/cold embrace/the Demeter dio duo also just damage additive?

I'm pretty sure mirage is multiplicative

[deep fjord]

no legendary but boy did i get pommed up

[primal crown]

Big rifts

[little prairie]

Legendary lies about dash and cast, only gives one per hit

[deep fjord]

good to know
kinda sucks

[little prairie]

Like, +1, +2, +3, +4... instead of +2, +4, +6, +8. At least as I understand it. Was in the big Google doc of known bugs

[shell arrow]

Completed my first run without using any death defiances (when fighting hades)

[strong ravine]

for slicing shot and blade dash

it does give +2 for ares call

but gives nothing on slicing flare

[little prairie]

Lol

Beo probably still getting the good end of bugs

[left ridge]

what a scam, I did a slicing flare vicious cycle run a few months ago #h1-victory-boasting message

[hollow remnant]

SUB10 WITH MY BELOVED NEMESIS
I ONLY HAD 2 FREE ROOMS (mid shop aspho and pat)
FEELIN #GAYMER

[strong ravine]

gg

[bold jolt]

Extremely based

[little prairie]

I like to think that heroic divine dash was the difference

[strong ravine]

heroic titan toppler is always the difference

[bold jolt]

Wait this is pretty clean for bad Hermes and no free rooms

Must've been some hella good rooms

Or early ME

[hollow remnant]

early ME

well, actually, was mid aspho

is that considered early?

more info

end of styx, 2 sack

[bold jolt]

Ely rare crop kinda ballsy ngl lmao well done

Yeah these are pretty clean sub10 splits

[hollow remnant]

that was a full feelin choice, because a run a did some days ago I lost a ton of time because of a dumb crop I took

I took this crop then was "well, I guess I need another dumb crop to learn"
#neverpunished

[bold jolt]

True

[deep fjord]

finished up that beo run from yesterday
i got screwed over with the duo boons (and hermes, and the hammers) but it was still really fun

[ashen elm]

Hunting blades go brrr

[oak ridge]

5 win streak. Not the most heat i've done, but i nearly died at the end. Felt like some of my boons were a bit bad this run and used a spear, not used to that. Made the win more satisfying though.

[deep fjord]

BIG damage.

this whole beowulf thing is kinda good

[left ridge]

Achilles feels so slow compared to Hera

[lunar peak]

Second shield run ever so I'm pretty proud

[west cargo]

Omg I beat pact of punishment hades on my second try!

And still had one extra life left

I didn’t even need stubborn roots

[west cargo]

Acknowledge meeeee I’m so proud of myself

[deep fjord]

as you should be!
taking a god keepsake into styx? bold

[strong ravine]

Can do it for zeus call sometimes

[next vault]

my third ever clear and I'm still shaking. This one was close!

[lunar peak]

Nice!

[strong ravine]

flare was lvl1 till mid ely

[deep fjord]

Gotta respect the hoarding slash
FYI, maxed acorn will save you much more HP than skelly

[strong ravine]

certified dash nova moment

[deep fjord]

What even is the upside of dash nova
Sure you get some temporary damage resistance but it also makes you more likely to get hit

[strong ravine]

it's actively negative

[deep fjord]

Yeah that's what I'm saying
A lot of the hammers in this game are just eh
It's one of the very few complaints I have with it

[strong ravine]

mostly it's just sword that has actively negative hammers

it has 4 of tehm

[deep fjord]

A lot of the shield hammers are very underwhelming to me
Especially the ones that buff the special, the base damage is so low that using a hammer to buff it feels like a waste

[strong ravine]

shield has a heap of useless hammers and also the best hammer in the game

[deep fjord]

Yeah lmao
70% of the shield hammers I only took for the prophecy

[little prairie]

First sub 10!

Hades even dropped a snack as a reward

The moral of the story is I'm much less relatively good with Hera compared to what I'd like.

[bold jolt]

Gaming

[strong ravine]

shadow presence?

[untold coyote]

snack

[little prairie]

That's a good point, whoops

Was running heat with dc2 immediately prior but even then I guess fiery makes more sense.

Can clockets backstab?

[strong ravine]

no

wouldn’t be worth if they did either

[little prairie]

What about explodey arrows?

[strong ravine]

what?

[little prairie]

The bow hammer

[strong ravine]

explosive shot? no idea

can’t imagine why it wouldn’t

[little prairie]

Triple twin explosive shot would be fun to see. Kept getting triple explosive on my earlier attempts with the bow.

What aspects do you run fiery with?

[strong ravine]

all of them except achilles

[little prairie]

Rama?

[strong ravine]

yea

thats more choicey

but the pick is still generally fiery

[little prairie]

Ever use damage control?

I can see the use for readying a rama shot while spawning, then doing the special

[strong ravine]

i assumed you meant without dc

[strong ravine]

it also helps to increase damage in scenarios like

there are 4 louts

you apply shared suffering to 3

[little prairie]

I did, just wondering about with dc too

[strong ravine]

and then hit the last one with the fiery boost

so the others take more damage from shared suffering hopefully one shotting

[little prairie]

75 instead of 60 on the one.

Hmmm. Interesting

[strong ravine]

and the others take 60% of the hit but it has a 75% boost so they take about the same damage as it would have done with no fiery

without taking into account fam fav and high confidence

[little prairie]

Ah right, the 75% applies to the others where the 60 wouldn't

[strong ravine]

bananas knows more tho

@bold jolt

idk if u have any comments

[bold jolt]

Huh

Fiery rama better for one shotting off spawn just have good line ups

Speedrunners tend to use fiery

[strong ravine]

and the weird amalgamated unfinished rama guide says to use it

but also then comments on backstabbing

[next vault]

I got the dash nova right before the boss fight, with the anvil. Scared the hell out of me when I went to do my special right into the path of redacted

[next vault]

will keep it in mind, thanks!

[strong ravine]

only sword hammer thats worth is double edge

piercing wave is decent

[maiden mango]

My 400th run of my original Hades file, and wow, the things I did to make sure I survived that run lmao

Cackling at the fact I ended with 434 max HP. I used the aspect of Arthur, which already increased my base health, but Life Affirmation (which I got pretty early in my run) was the boon that saved me so many times.

And thank you Hermes for giving me Quick Favor so I can summon Ares more often lol. I absolutely DECIMATED the bosses hehehe

Also, thank you Father Patroclus for coming in clutch with that Touch of Styx Dark. It came right after I finished using up another Touch of Styx from a Well of Charon, and then after that, I was lucky enough to get through the Temple of Styx fast enough to be able to reach Hades. And by the time I completed the run? Two minutes on the clock left to spare hehehe. Thank you depressed gay dad 🙏

[strong ravine]

19+13+7+13+13+15=276 ??

[little prairie]

Dash nova is pretty nice with aspect of posideon

Double nova with posideon special

[strong ravine]

it messes with your positioning

[little prairie]

Might be harder with kbm to redirect

But I guess if you want to keep them moving in a line. I'm thinking when you plane posideon in the most posideony way and never attack.

Definitely feels safer but I can see it not being speedy. is how I got my highest sword speed because dash strike with sword is hard

[maiden mango]

Haha, for some reason, it removed some of my older clears, which is understandable considering how many times I've played this game lol

[bold jolt]

god mode clears are tracked separately

[strong ravine]

sub6 #3

[maiden mango]

Except pretty much all my clears are on god mode lol

[ashen elm]

actually bonkers run

[bold jolt]

Is that thunder flare

[untold coyote]

Lmao

[left ridge]

sub10 Hera, and now I finally got sub10 on all weapons

[ashen elm]

yes it is @_@

[bold jolt]

Thunder flare doesn't get affected by % bonuses to casts lmao

[ashen elm]

wait seriously? I've been scammed

[bold jolt]

Thunder flare is considered a thunder strike rather than an actual flare that explodes around you

So your clear was just raw splitting bolt, double strike, and Rd damage

[ashen elm]

damn they should update that google doc of bugs, because I didn't see it there

does mirage shot work on it still?

[bold jolt]

Nope

[ashen elm]

ok this was actually blursed

the illusion of big damage shattered

[bold jolt]

If you wanted big damage just use flood flare lmao

It's the same scaling as thunder flare iirc

And is just easier to use overall

Bigger aoe and leads into mirage easier

[ashen elm]

damn and i started with poseidon's keepsake too

[little prairie]

and also flood flare doesn't work with splitting bolt sea storm iirc

[deep fjord]

well this was... a build
not every day you get 2 duos and 2 legendaries (am i blind or did chaos' legendary disappear after i used it)

4K damage every dragon rush is pretty good

[bold jolt]

Their boon disappears but on the bottom left you'll get an extra

[deep fjord]

yeah so i still have proof that i got it

[bold jolt]

Yeah

[strong ravine]

you mean sea storm

[little prairie]

Yea

[deep fjord]

yet again i get screwed by artemis and hermes in styx
it's like the 4th run in a row where i spent 500 obols on hermes and he didn't give me what i wanted

[ivory sky]

rod doing most of the work

[little prairie]

L rods ❤️

Lol tooth not making you exceed your max hp

[ivory sky]

mirage lightning phalanx was fun in styx rooms, even more than pos dash

[sinful breach]

any pointers for a guy who cant make cast builds work? yours with the bow makes it look like a sniper, how does that work? any tips?

[left ridge]

Will answer in #h1-builds-and-combat

[deep fjord]

the most OP build i've ever had
what a run, hades phase 3 just melted in like 15 seconds

[little prairie]

Slicing shot is so incredibly pommable

Do you have 5 gods?

[deep fjord]

if hermes counts, yes
if chaos does, then 6

acutally 7, missed one from dio

[little prairie]

Yeye, meant 5 not counting Hermes or chaos.

[ivory sky]

how much damage were you getting per 3 stones? 5-6k?

[strong ravine]

vicious cycle is bugged

Vicious Cycle
Adds 2 damage per hit to Ares’ Aid as intended, but only 1 to slicing shot and blade dash and does not work at all for slicing flare.

[little prairie]

How many hits a second does the rift get max?

Lasts 4 seconds?

[strong ravine]

3.3 with hb

oh maybe thats just seek time

[little prairie]

Yeah

You can see them drift off course at the end

It's kind of annoying

[strong ravine]

i'd assume 0.2

im trying to remember where i found that from

meme beam

[little prairie]

That one states every 0.2 yeah

Hangover states its 0.5

[deep fjord]

I know but it's still good

[little prairie]

Yeah, probably worth 3 poms or so

[strong ravine]

damn all my vids are too low res to see

it took 9 frames to deal a 2nd instance of damage

[deep fjord]

This is the run with the highest amount of duo/legendary boons I've ever had
Would have been a heroic slicing shot too if Eurydice was nicer

[strong ravine]

slicing shot rarity doesnt matter

on achilles the only important rarity is on your hermes

and chaos

[deep fjord]

Yeah I've not been able to get the good Hermes combo yet
I always only get half of it

The damage from chaos is additive to the bonus from Achilles right?
Why does it feel like getting the +1 bloodstone boon from chaos is really hard compared to like, special or attack damage

[strong ravine]

because there is only 1 grasp

[deep fjord]

Because +cast damage doesn't do all that much

[strong ravine]

there are 2 strike and flourish

[strong ravine]

it does

[deep fjord]

Yeah but when you've got +150% damage an extra 33% doesn't do all that much
An extra bloodstone would be way better
Unless chaos boons are multiplicative, then they're about the same

[strong ravine]

well

on achilles

shots are more valuable than grasps often

because it's not like hera or beo where you can put them all out quickly

you get more burst from a shot

while a grasp you have to shoot out an extra time

[deep fjord]

Yeah I just never seem to get anything above a common shot
I know it's just bad luck but still

[deep fjord]

I dunno exactly, all I know is that it was A LOT

[willow root]

GG Hades for the third time (with Shield & 2 Heat)

[deep fjord]

What's the build?

[willow root]

Build?

[deep fjord]

Like, what boons did you have
The usual way to post on this channel is to take a screenshot of your boons at the end of the run

[willow root]

Oh.

That was the build I had

[deep fjord]

Oooo that hangover synergy

Shame your only hangover source was the dash, put this build on a bow with Dio's special and you're melting everything

[willow root]

True.
But I’m not going to do another Coronacht run anytime soon.
That bow is a pain to use imo

[deep fjord]

It was my favourite weapon for the first few clears
Aspect of Chiron with hangover build carried me for a while

[willow root]

I only use shield for the block in the Hades fight lol

[warm notch]

if bow feels clunky its usually due to not dash striking with it or not having double/triple shot

[deep fjord]

I managed to first-try hades by shield blocking as much as I could
It's a really good weapon for learning bosses

I then proceeded to not win again for like 10 runs

[willow root]

Paired with the upgrade that gives a speed boost after blocking, shield is great for Hades’ second phase.

With the lasers

[deep fjord]

Honestly phase 1 is harder than phase 2 for me
But that might just be extreme measures doing its job

[willow root]

Eh probably

[deep fjord]

There's also the 2 massive rocks in the battlefield that you can hide behind

But yeah, I just blocked all his lasers the first time around

[strong ravine]

thats normal

[deep fjord]

My acorn be so fine
Then bam
Doomstone

[willow root]

Yeah.

[warm notch]

phase 1 spawns make it usually more of a pain

[willow root]

Doomstone ez lol

[deep fjord]

Say that to EM4 hades

[willow root]

just bash it until it dies

[strong ravine]

the easiest solution is to not use em4

[deep fjord]

Okay but what if it had way more HP, there was 2 of them and you were fighting hades

the EM4 experience

[willow root]

Probably would be still really easy

[deep fjord]

But it's fun

[strong ravine]

o

[deep fjord]

Yeah they don't deal much damage but acorn gets melted in 2 seconds

[warm notch]

you can also hug him point blank for the 360 lasers and theyll wont hit you. doesnt work for em4 tho

[willow root]

still haven’t beaten Hades with Exagryph.
I might try it tomorrow.

As long as I get the right boons

[strong ravine]

just get zeus attack

[deep fjord]

Or Hestia aspect with as much damage on the attack as possible
But that needs a titan blood investment so going for Zeus with the normal gun is probably better

[willow root]

Already got AoH

Just need more Titan Blood

time to ramp up the HEAT

[deep fjord]

Just don't give the enemies more HP this time, it makes bosses take way longer

[ivory sky]

partying with dio

[deep fjord]

Holy crap
Is that Artemis legendary?? The boon I haven't been able to get despite going for it like 6 runs in a row??

[strong ravine]

not even doing anything either

gg

[ivory sky]

calculated risk even makes cerberus slower. guess he's a projectile

[little prairie]

More black out isn't bad

[ivory sky]

black out plus splitting headache melted elysium dudes pretty well imo

[wary brook]

I notice that everyone has most of their boon slots full at the end of a run

Should I be prioritizing boons over other rewards?

[strong ravine]

depends

[wary brook]

I often only have 10-15

[strong ravine]

nobody really counts

[wary brook]

I have never cleared a run btw

[strong ravine]

you should choose which boons you want for your build

and which gods you don't want

[deep fjord]

It's mostly people going for duo boons I think
A lot of the time duos and legendaries have a lot of prerequisites so you just take more boons to get them

[strong ravine]

there's the 3 column rule

[warm notch]

really depends on the boons/build

[strong ravine]

"if you have more than your core boons and 3 columns of boons/items
your run took too long
you saw too many actual rooms
and not enough free rooms"

ig that applies to speedruns

[wary brook]

What is a free room

[warm notch]

a lot of the time you only care about only one or two attack types

[wary brook]

I usually only have my first column and the next one full

[strong ravine]

that might be related to dark foresight

[wary brook]

How can I make a build

And make it one that works well and is effective and efficient

[deep fjord]

It all depends
Sometimes you go for multiple duo boons, so you get more boons total to meet all the prerequisites
Sometimes you pom one boon a lot so you take less boons total
Sometimes you get a lot of money so you afford more boons

[wary brook]

I just played my first run with the fists

I have had them for a while but I just neglected them

[deep fjord]

Your codex is a great tool, use it
Check what duos/legendaries you could get and go for them

[strong ravine]

at this point just play more

[wary brook]

I decided to go for a run where I would take less damage

[strong ravine]

you dont need to do anything fancy

[wary brook]

And I went for aphro and artem

[strong ravine]

thats kinda mutually exclusive with the weapon with the least range in the game lol

[warm notch]

well the basic formula is first you find gods that synergize with your weapon for example fists are good with zeus or ares attack then you pick the keepsakes of those gods in tatarus/asphodel

[wary brook]

But I didnt look for particular boons just those gods

[deep fjord]

Wait ares attack on fists?

[strong ravine]

yea?

[warm notch]

merciful end mainly

[strong ravine]

ME

[wary brook]

How do I know what synergies

[strong ravine]

you learn over time

[deep fjord]

Oh right, me dumb

[strong ravine]

for now just play the game

[warm notch]

but doom by itself is great

[strong ravine]

not rlly

it kinda sucks

just play and figure stuff out on ur own

when you're trying to accomplish more difficult things is when questions r more pointfuled

[warm notch]

idk for 50 heat fists i had better success with doom over dio for some reason

[strong ravine]

idk man

[deep fjord]

You'll figure it out
Basically any build is viable if you know what you're doing
Heck, there's exclusive dialogue for reaching hades without a single boon
Just experiment, you'll eventually learn what synergies with what just by playing enough

[warm notch]

actually it was probably just dio call and fat poms carrying

[strong ravine]

yea dio call is busted

gg

[warm notch]

bonus of not using dio attack ig

[strong ravine]

why not zoos tho

[warm notch]

jolted resets

[strong ravine]

just get it imo

[strong ravine]

support fire is prob half the dps here

[deep fjord]

That isn't support fire tho
Unless I'm blind

[strong ravine]

oh

i just assumed because fully loaded and exit wounds is useless here

[warm notch]

yeah talos is still jank .
also kinda when im 1 hit and finally realize patty buff already ran out

[strong ravine]

non ME ap0 ri0 moment

[warm notch]

dedge nem is goated only problem is im still bad with sword

[little prairie]

Maybe I don't want to kill them in the next 10 seconds.

[fallen crag]

If I have clips from the same run as the victory screen I send, is it fine to upload them here too?

[strong ravine]

sure

[fallen crag]

Okay cool, just wasn't sure if I was meant to follow the channel description to the letter

• Zeus special with Double Strike and Jolted with the Duo boon that makes it not expire when the enemy attacks
• insane meter gain for Call
• additional Hermes dash with Ruthless Reflex equipped
• Ares' "Urge To Kill" at +17%
• only got hit three times at all in the Hades fight (Forbidden Acorn is on 2 out of 5 hits left at the end)

[bold jolt]

thunder flourish has an internal cooldown of 0.2 seconds lmao splitting bolt and jolted doing some heavy lifting

[fallen crag]

very

Pretty much the whole run was a breeze, I had fun

[lunar peak]

Not my fastest run, but still sick

doom go brr

[left ridge]

No Hermes until mid ely
I hate it when Theseus calls for Apollo because it makes the run significantly slower than any other god cause of the blind curse
I was hoping I'd get Hermes in styx shop so I sold Sweet nectar but no third hermes :(

[wary brook]

YOO I JUST CLEARED MY FIRST EVER RUN

It didnt feel lucky either

I decided not to button mash and though about everything more methodically

And tried to make a build sort of

[west cargo]

Artemis go brrrr

Sorry about the quality of the picture, didn’t notice it was so bad when I took it

[deep fjord]

that feeling when you get every duo boon possible aside from the one you want
artemis only showed up once after aspho and ares just didn't

[west cargo]

So no hunting blades?

[deep fjord]

yeah

poseidon call kinda carried in the hades fight

[wary brook]

Yooo

Just cleared my second run and it was the run right after my first clear

Tried a zeus posi build

But didnt get the duo

[west cargo]

No heart rend

Big sad

[deep fjord]

i want to strangle artemis and ares
just give me hunting blades already

yet another run of getting everything but what i wanted
i spent 450 obols and a reroll on artemis and still

every ares/artemis boon aside from the core boons could have been hunting blades

[left ridge]

Freezing vortex is incompatible with hunting blades

[deep fjord]

are you kidding me

i got that one on accident too

got forced into a demeter boon early on

[left ridge]

It's one of the reasons freezing vortex is so bad
In general if you really need one specific duo, try not to open any other

[deep fjord]

i only go for mirage shot and hunting blades
why are they incompatible tho, the combo wouldn't be that OP

[left ridge]

Idk

[golden peak]

me too, just cleared my 2nd run which was also my 2nd clear in a row
its with rail too, a weapon i struggle with (although i still use whichever one has dark thirst on it)

[left ridge]

Delta chamber is pretty neat when you're not used to the rail

[golden peak]

yea need to get used to that reload

[hollow jacinth]

well done

[deep fjord]

If you wanna get used to reloading try Hestia, it requires you to reload a lot but you get huge damage in return

[little prairie]

TIL. It shouldn't be

[meager oasis]

Feel good

[dreamy acorn]

Got my first sub 10! Got a lot of extra speed/damage with double ichor+greater haste+rush delivery+hyper sprint, shame it was only a common rush delivery. Very glad I had Charon’s keepsake on as well. Got mirage shot in Tartarus+extra chaos cast damage. Unfortunately did not get the ranged attack hammer though.

[oak ridge]

cleared 3 heat, new record. 8 wins in total. 10 for offical ending / credits i think?

[deep fjord]

Why underworld customs
There are way easier ways of getting to 3 heat

[oak ridge]

underworld customs is a blessing in disguise imo. I was choosing boons i don't use to fulfil prophecies, then sold them lol

used the money for other stuff

[little prairie]

Is customs not considered among the easiest heat? I don't like it because I like my tri duo builds, but I thought it was widely advised

[deep fjord]

I don't like it for the same reason
But like, if you're not doing that high heat it's just annoying

Too much hassle to think ahead for it when it only gives 2 heat
Maybe not the hardest condition that gives 2 heat but certainly the most annoying if you have a build planned out

[warm notch]

uc aint bad on an aspect like hera youll figure out where to cut down on build bloat if you use it too

[ivory sky]

over 50% bonus damage lol

almost done with bounties on this save

[strong ravine]

spot what's missing

[wary brook]

Weapon thing?

List of weapon

[strong ravine]

no it's in the build lol

[wary brook]

Oh

[strong ravine]

thats from speedrun modpack

[wary brook]

Why isnt that there

Oh

Idk the boons by just looking at the name or picture

I always read them

Why is it squished

[strong ravine]

i play in 1024x1024 stretched

[violet bloom]

hunting blades

[strong ravine]

true

[dreamy acorn]

oh I know

the extra 2 casts from artemis

the legendary idr what it's called

[strong ravine]

TRUE

[dreamy acorn]

cause there's 7 casts and only 2 from chaos

[warm notch]

abyssal blood

[dreamy acorn]

does abyssal blood have an actual use case

[strong ravine]

no

[dreamy acorn]

other than funny hunting blades/beowulf where it doesn't matter

wait but why isn't it there lol

[strong ravine]

why isnt what

[dreamy acorn]

the artemis legendary

[strong ravine]

i didnt have it

[dreamy acorn]

then how 7 casts

[warm notch]

he doesnt even have the reqs for the legendary