h1-victory-boasting

[heavy solar]

No godmode 😳

[vestal pagoda]

getting used to bosses chopping you for 72 thanks to HL5 will take a while

[tired shoal]

Yeah, that shouldn’t ruin your run.

[heavy solar]

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

[stone blaze]

is there a marker on screen if someones using godmode or is there not a way to tell/people can never be sure?

that's... also a stupid question, probably

[heavy solar]

It shows up in the boon/hammer menu

As an icon with a skull

[stone blaze]

but not the end-of-run screens?

[heavy solar]

It shows up on end run screens

[tired shoal]

Deus Ex Machina,

[stone blaze]

ah k

[heavy solar]

the end run screen shows your boon/hammer list so yes it shows godmode

Idk if there is an actual name for that menu that would be better used

[random forum]

Inventory

[heavy solar]

Victory screen is the term for the “end-of-run” screens

[heavy solar]

I guess

[random forum]

Example of god mode showing

[heavy solar]

True, easiest way to get an example of godmode is look at the one skull icon that remains a near constant on Expert Enjoyers victory screens

/j

[random forum]

[heavy solar]

Ngl I wouldn’t’ve noticed if my discord didn’t open up to @stone blaze’s message commenting about how people would just think you were using godmode again

[stone blaze]

is the ping for me not turning off my ping, or... is this just a comment for the sake of commenting or r u mad at me?

[heavy solar]

is acknowledgement

[stone blaze]

cool, it didn't quite read like it was but I wasn't entirely sure lol

[heavy solar]

I wouldn’t’ve noticed without my discord opening to your message here

[stone blaze]

gonna attempt FO1-EM4 w/ a sword I never use (been using arthur for ages, using zag because its the one I already have leveled up besides arth), wish me luck xd

[heavy solar]

Zag sword when you get rush delivery

[obsidian harness]

wishing you all the luck for arthur em4

[stone blaze]

I've already done em4 arthur p sure

if anything I want luck for this zag EM4 xd

[tired shoal]

Lel.

Try God Mode.

No, you’re xringe.

Lel.

[stone blaze]

do kind of wish I knew I was gonna get stash tho if I was gonna even bother because I started the run by having the choice between 102% gems/darkness for not being able to pick up cast or for like 67% gold I think for... idr what it was, I think -4 hp per cast use for the next 4 encounters?

[random forum]

“Legacy is a scam” is a scam

Pride is also a scam apparently

[tired shoal]

Lel.

[bold jolt]

you got 2 purples tho

[random forum]

True

[paper oxide]

Woo zagbow sub-9!

Only sub10 sword and shield to go 😄

[tired shoal]

LEZZZ GOOO!!!

[paper oxide]

also 84% Hunter's Mark ❤️

[bold jolt]

i like how you were like "guess i'll shoot for sub10 all aspects" and got 3 sub9s in a row lmao

[paper oxide]

[lime geode]

Can we just talk about how you did a 40 heat at some point?

[bold jolt]

6 40 heat runs lol

[lime geode]

Oh my gosh hahaha

[paper oxide]

lots of people did 40 heats :p bananas has all 50s i think

[bold jolt]

no lmfao

1 50

[paper oxide]

ah mb

[lime geode]

I see :O pro players

[paper oxide]

more like 5 months of doing nothing else but playing Hades

look like how many runs i have

[bold jolt]

i've been speedrunning 40 tho so i do have multiple 40 heat clears under my belt but they're all beowulf (and 1 rama) lol

[heavy solar]

Now I gotta do 40 heat

[lime geode]

I've started taking Hades more seriously recently so so far the highest I've done might have been 6 hahaha

[paper oxide]

this sounds painfully unfun tbh XD

[heavy solar]

Wait lmao you have more clears then I do

[bold jolt]

bro you have no idea how many times i've seen mirage shot get crossed off

[heavy solar]

When did that happen

[bold jolt]

i haven't gotten it in like at least 15 menus in a row

[paper oxide]

weird how you're still way better XD

[rotund sphinx]

I was very thundery today

[paper oxide]

probably while i've been trying to speed run. 9 heat is pretty easy

[heavy solar]

“You’re still way better” I have 0 40 heat clears and 1 sub 10* run

sub 10

Sub10

[bold jolt]

funny enough, while you get better at speed with heat, the opposite is also true lol you get better at heat with speed

[heavy solar]

I freudian slipped

I meant sub 10

I’m not way better

[random forum]

Dom10

#h1-discussion

[paper oxide]

ok more knowledgeable

[heavy solar]

Yea

That’s something I will take

aside from that it’s time to go for 40 heat clears and also sub 9

[tame spire]

max level guan yu is much easier to use

also crystal clarity go brrr

[random forum]

Let’s all appreciate that Lucky (Not) did a lv1 guan yu clear

[tame spire]

get it

[random forum]

Which makes them infinitely better gamer than any of us lol

[tawdry root]

get heroic hunter's mark lv. 4, it's a guaranteed crit

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

[paper oxide]

well it was zagbow with arty attack so it was guaranteed at 70 wasn't it?

[tawdry root]

huh, yeah, i guess it would be under those circumstances

nice quick maths

[paper oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/big-head-shaq-manly-knows-algebra-gif-12056072

[tame spire]

hades when arthur crits for 1700:

[random forum]

Thicc

[obsidian harness]

i lied, only 30% more than normal arthur aura

sorry arthur.

[tame spire]

I forgot I had a special on the final fight

[heavy solar]

Damage reduction ain’t additive

[tame spire]

rama cool

[obsidian harness]

yes i know

i had 30% more damage reduction than arthur in aura normally does

rama awesome

[random forum]

Not me failing to know how to make Hestia go fast (and barely clearing)

And getting no boons whatsoever jeez

[neon crypt]

I never really understood how hestia even worked. do you just shoot once and constantly spam reload to make the most of the ability or just treat it as a little bonus?

[random forum]

It would appear I don’t know the answer to that. Lol

Reloading for every shot is v slow going

[neon crypt]

also, might as well leave my proudest run here. I never really liked using the spear but things lined up too well in the last area and this happened https://youtu.be/G1citVGxUu0

[random forum]

Flurry jab is bonkers

Playing Achilles like discount zagspear is BDE

[neon crypt]

BDE?

also I made really good use of the special for like the rest of the run

it's just that the anvil decided to do some bits of trolling at the end and really just said don't use special anymore

[bold jolt]

Reload every shot, every 2 shots use your special
Use your cast to finish off break points

[neon crypt]

so basically treat the weapon like a really weird flintlock pistol, got it

[bold jolt]

Button smash basically

[random forum]

Simply obtain the carpal tunnel boon

[neon crypt]

it's just gonna be like the run above except instead of spamming dash you spam reload instead

sounds fair to me

[north turtle]

It’s like a bolt action sniper rifle

[obsidian harness]

styx divine dash 👍

ambrosia hit gr and curse of agony out of 4 targets lol

[random forum]

How did this clear holy

[heavy solar]

Boonless 50 heat has been done so no doubt this can be done too

[obsidian harness]

6 dashes and hyper sprint meant i was never getting hit

you can see time was a bit slow but agony + call was plenty of damage

idk if anyone's noticed this but hestia is kinda good

[spark flicker]

YO? MY 4TH AND 5TH ESCAPES WERE CONSECUTIVE

[obsidian harness]

w

[stone blaze]

I mean I feel like consecutive hades wins w/o heat is decently easy-ish, but yeah grats

https://imgur.com/a/f4aFFJO

came way closer to dying than I feel like this run had any right to (I.E. I'm terrible at this game - probably also helps that at no point did I try to actually use that hefty 155% ambush percent despite having access to it by... I think early aspho? jesus christ)

[obsidian harness]

it’s their first few clears

[stone blaze]

also I BEAT HIM UP AND STOLE HIS LUNCH MONEY! LFG!

[stone blaze]

I mean I'm also saying that based on my own experiences idk

[obsidian harness]

okay

[stone blaze]

yeah its a great accomplishment in its own right too

[stone blaze]

I mean someone could also p easily prob look at me doing EM4-FO2 and say "actually that's really easy, you just suck" 🤷

[stone blaze]

@rain ruin

[rain ruin]

Nice

[stone blaze]

I mean I was just gonna ask was I probably not supposed to take as much damage as I did with that build? (came in with basically full health + definitely had the full 3 DDs)

[obsidian harness]

tired brain was trying to figure out why i haven’t seen valued customer hammer before LOL

[stone blaze]

had a previous FO2 EM4 that seemed roughly on par and despite that I took like only 40 damage or smthn for that entire hades fight but this one was just... really sloppy? idk.

[stone blaze]

yep that's tired brain

[obsidian harness]

you take as much damage as you do, the only health that matters is the last

[stone blaze]

I'd 100% sign up for a $300, 20% discount hammer tho if it existed 👀

indeed but it still feels bad to think "yep I nearly died in a situation where it had no right to happen" lol

[obsidian harness]

well now you know you can never be too careful in the future

[stone blaze]

I feel like I already knew that from past experiences/extremely close hades fights but ty lul

[obsidian harness]

i’ve lost runs like that for no good reason when i was doing em4 bc i just wasn’t focused enough or whatever

[stone blaze]

em4... bc?

that's not middle management, can't remember the thing

nor bp

what's bc

[rain ruin]

Should move to #h1-discussion, Zeus shield is a safe weapon, the build is alright, FO2 EM4 is tough, the build wont pilot itself and you can still get punished pretty hard in the fight so with practice you'll take less damage overall, regardless of the build

[obsidian harness]

bc = because

[stone blaze]

ty
its also nice to hear someone reaffirm that even though I kind of already knew the "FO2 EM4 realkly screws people up" from my first attempt dying before even finishing phase 1

[stone blaze]

I've seen so many boon/mirror/heat 2 letter abbreviations that I didn't even think that it was just "because"

that and EM4 unironically seems... really slow after having done/attempted FO1/FO2 EM4 hades

[random forum]

Okay but what are these hammers

40 heat 40 neat tho

[stone blaze]

good stuff

[obsidian harness]

love piercing wave

gz streak maintained

[random forum]

Yeah ap1 wasn’t actually blocking a useful boon c1 this time so I gave it a few tries

Frozen touch legitimately carried my heroes fight, I made it out with 10hp

Covered in tire tracks

[lunar peak]

was this a good hera build

im always so slow with bow

[stone blaze]

sounds p good

[stone blaze]

I mean you don't really need/want it save for bosses or extremely tanky enemies like butterfly balls/minibosses or armored chariots, but... no quick reload (idk what its called, the one that makes enemies drop it considerably faster)?

[random forum]

Damage control and calisthenics program slowed you down here for certain

[stone blaze]

does damage control (I'm assuming that's the instance of damage/light blue hearts one) ignore cast damage on hera/beowulf?

[random forum]

Dc ignores any source of damage for the first hit

Real fun using Meg and hitting all 4 witches and it doesn’t do anything to them

With Hera and Beowulf the initial attack would pop DC1 before the cast damage happened though

[stone blaze]

sounds rough

well ok that was my question lol

does cast damage count as one instance or... (I haven't used hera... I think ever? I know I still haven't done a beo run yet)

idk if they're instant or slightly staggered

[random forum]

Each cast loaded hits separately after the attack

The cast damage shows as one number tho because same sources combine damage numbers

[stone blaze]

mmm

[tired shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031568485857370113/1033730075276886026/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701

[neon crypt]

Tried EM4 for the first time tonight.

What.

[tired shoal]

Is this…

Bruh…

[neon crypt]

I am genuinely not sure how or why i survived this

without even the need for the fourth DD which i got just in case

[stone blaze]

what's super awful about this? besides the lack of acorn

idk how "4th DD" is your insurance but you didn't take acorn into it

[stone blaze]

melee-range triple shot-rama is p good (close range hammer or triple shot - even better if both)

https://imgur.com/a/fjxDsbF

kind of irritating to get fixation anyways when my only source of weak was crush shot but w/e

also won though after I eschewed an (iirc) +59 max hp epic chaos boon for +135% eclipse :D

[neon crypt]

Pom flower is way too good to pass on for the tunnels

also, the awful part of the run is that this was my first first EM4

I've been relatively unspoiled for the most part but my friends told me EM4 was super difficult that it'd take me a while, so I was prepared to lose

[stone blaze]

is... is it? how many tunnels is that max, I guess its like 28?

[neon crypt]

enough for at least 4 level ups methinks

[stone blaze]

is that really worth forgoing the first 5 hits which will probs total like 200+ damage (unless you only start getting hit by butterflies/sneak)?

yeah

[neon crypt]

yes

[stone blaze]

are 4 poms at random worth that?

[neon crypt]

also yes

at least one of them's gonna give some extra damage

[stone blaze]

[neon crypt]

more damage done means less time fighting hades means less chances of getting hit

I did used to use the spearhead a lot

for the i-frames

but once I figured out how to get hit less i stopped needing it

[stone blaze]

mmm

[neon crypt]

plus i had the hermes boon that reduces damage received by 40% as long as you're dashing

i like dashing

[tired shoal]

Facts.

[neon crypt]

I'm tempted to go for a 20 heat run next time

because I'm trying to progress the story which is taking me way too long because i no longer die between runs

of course i could probably just go ahead and end the run at the first room to rush the story since Nyx is always busy whenever I finish a run but that's no fun

[tired shoal]

How far are you storywise?

[neon crypt]

post-credits, max nectar relationship for everyone but the olympian gods

[tired shoal]

Oh damn.

And u beat em4 first try?

You’re cracked.

Have u maxed out your mirror?

[neon crypt]

almost

got everything but the persuasion

monkey brain keeps going for the useless ranking stuff whenever i get enough darkness to upgrade one

[vestal pagoda]

i beat em4 first try too and i don't try it on every run now
the damage you take in that is absolutely huge

[tired shoal]

Crazy

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

[vestal pagoda]

and HL5 will make it even more painful

i guess i have to start getting gud

[tired shoal]

Lel, just reset.

[neon crypt]

i mean like

[tired shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/zagreus-hades-gif-20895332

[neon crypt]

i have all of both sides upgraded already. just don't have the fated ones maxed out because whenever i get the sufficient darkness i just end up upgrading the badge instead knowing it won't benefit me in any way

[tired shoal]

Lel.

[stone blaze]

xd

[stone blaze]

https://imgur.com/a/EeZcWln

that was silly

[signal hornet]

32 heat with the fists! Poseidon’s Call carried

[hollow jacinth]

Nice!

[bold jolt]

absolutely based

when 50

[random forum]

Where’s ur 40heat

[random forum]

🙏

[bold jolt]

when's 50 buddy

[signal hornet]

50 heat? I couldn’t even imagine what that looks like. Scary I bet!

[bold jolt]

scary and painful

[heavy solar]

64 heat when?

[signal hornet]

Lmao don’t scare me. 64 heat isn’t real it can’t hurt me

[heavy solar]

It is real

it can’t hurt you if you never try but like smh my head my head

[random forum]

Massive L bozo

Simply scroll up past all the detailed conversations

[paper oxide]

it's the same except the duos you want are always crossed out and the lava instantly kills you

[paper oxide]

So close to sub 9 sword. Also accidental legacy gaming XD

[bold jolt]

This is gaming

[paper oxide]

😄 only shield leftover

[bold jolt]

Beowulf easy

[paper oxide]

then i donno what i'll do. maybe 32 heat on everything. or 32 heat on everything shackle runs

[bold jolt]

50 heat

Just 1 50 heat lol

[paper oxide]

i haven't been able to make beo work all that well

[bold jolt]

Ah rip

[paper oxide]

i mean i've got it to like 10:30 but the way people talk it seems like i'm doing something wrong XD

[vale heart]

Beo is stupid

[tired shoal]

Stupid good.

[vale heart]

Yes

[paper oxide]

i know it's really powerful, but i've had trouble making it also fast.

[vale heart]

Are you running the typical flood flare mirage setup?

[paper oxide]

yeah starting with flood flare

[vale heart]

Enemy grouping is a big part of making beo go fast

You want to obliterate enemies in as few volleys as possible

[paper oxide]

almost certainly my weakest skill

are you meant to sort of not hit enemies with the shield? i've definitely hit them out of flood before

[bold jolt]

if you're gonna hit them with the shield it'd be the wind up to charge the shot

generally not much after, but even so it shouldn't be hitting them out of the flare

[vale heart]

A lot of the time you don't want to use a whole volley, you want 1 or 2 on some enemies before using the others to hit a different group

[paper oxide]

sorry i mean hit them with the weapon part of the rush

instead of rushing to like the side

[vale heart]

Oh, it's usually helpful

You're using cshot aren't you

Just point dragon shot at them and watch them blow up

[paper oxide]

that's better? maybe i'm doing it too far away from enemies. i feel like i'm running to pick up my crystals a ton with cshot

[obsidian harness]

you can use the aoe from casts to your advantage, i don’t think hitting the rush attack is too important after you actually get damage on cast

[vale heart]

^

[obsidian harness]

generally collect stones between waves

[vale heart]

But we'd have to see your gameplay to really tell what you're doing wrong

[random forum]

Simply go to #h1-discussion

[obsidian harness]

No

[tired shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1033844949948579920/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701

I really can't go below this, huh?

[paper oxide]

below the time?

[tired shoal]

Yep.

[hollow jacinth]

A good build would help

[paper oxide]

you could probably go faster if your build wasn't so wild

[bold jolt]

tempest strike hell yeah

[random forum]

Literally every green mirror talent except the useful ones

[spark flicker]

6 escapes, 3 with the Blade lmao I don't know why this keeps being the one I do best with

tfw Styx Daedalus trade gave me curse slash which probably secured the win

[tired shoal]

FaIr, but that's the point.

U rite tho.

[random forum]

32 Hestia Bestia

Acorn popped right before I killed Dad

[tired shoal]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031568485857370113/1033862767767207946/unknown.png?width=1246&height=701

[tired shoal]

Lel, nice. How much does the theme cost?

On how do u unlock it?

[random forum]

Good kill

With a good build like that, it’s pretty easy to clear even without divinity yes?

Demeter fist would have probably worked better with that though, especially with the chaos special boons

[paper oxide]

I thought the point was that YOU couldn't go any faster. You didn't say it was about doing it with bad builds on purpose.

[tired shoal]

True, but the build was there to see.

I ‘Preciate the advice tho.

[ebon berry]

I hate @heavy solar

this was actually like 57-60 difficulty up to mid elysium I'd say

but rest was easy

never lacked hp, just the timer sucked

[paper oxide]

ggs

[bold jolt]

Oh that looks fun

[heavy solar]

I would hate me too

[heavy solar]

That’s the point lol

[tame spire]

flood flare+wave pounding+mirage shot deleted hades

[bold jolt]

Mirage bug gaming

[random forum]

Where did hades go

[paper oxide]

Last sub 10 is sub 9 beo! Time for a new project. Maybe 32 shackle everything or just 32 everything anyway

or just relaxed darkness farming until that's done

sea storm doing a respectable amount too

[random forum]

All sub 9 when

[versed crane]

45 heat something 😈

[paper oxide]

blah lol

i don't want to go over 40. 40 hurt too much i'm good

[random forum]

63 heat

[bold jolt]

go sub8s everything lmao

or 45 heat lol

[vale heart]

bet (fists do not exist)

[bold jolt]

you have to sub 7 all of them

including fists

[obsidian harness]

and zag sword

[paper oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/szopo-gif-18626480

[bold jolt]

lmao you're fine

i'm telling xiao to sub7 all of them

[paper oxide]

whoops

[bold jolt]

also nice pride

[paper oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/szopo-gif-18626480

[bold jolt]

damn

[paper oxide]

oh man did i forget to change it lol wow

wait no pride is right.
ah yeah legacy is a scam

really needs to be a gif

[vale heart]

STOP

[obsidian harness]

pride and legacy are both placebo anyway, they’re bugged to not do anything

[bold jolt]

no

[random forum]

Believable

[spark flicker]

Unlocks Aspect of Beowulf
Gets a free win first try

It certainly lived up to the reputation I've heard about here

Also Artemis and Zeus decided to fight for my love so they helped it be even more free
Got Arte's Legendary for my first time plus her Duo with Zeus
Literally an unfair combo alone, and then this shield was already wrecking

[zinc valley]

I beat Hades for the first time on my 50th attempt with aspect of Zagreus 4 sword and no god mode or casting.

Also couldn't have done it without Skelly's tooth.

[tired shoal]

4hp and a dream.

[summer trail]

ME gaming

[north turtle]

How does an ME build work on Rama? Spread doom with special then dash through them?

[summer trail]

basically yea

the stack happens fast

also attack does do significant damage

so u can use that instead sometimes

but only for armor enemies and boss fight

otherwise it's usually dash

[hollow jacinth]

raME

[vale heart]

That build is a mess, and even then beowulf is still stupid free, it really is that good

[versed crane]

Pls take poms

[random forum]

Good job

[random forum]

Good work

[heavy solar]

Omg no godmode

[tired shoal]

Ofc.

[vestal pagoda]

deaths defied

[tired shoal]

I just got lucky, SD reigns supreme.

[vestal pagoda]

20 heat no godmode from godmode is a lot of progress

i really need to run SD more but to do that i need to stop sucking at bosses

[tired shoal]

Lel, just git gud 4head.

[signal hornet]

40 heat with Hestia!! Daedalus carried Kappa

[vale heart]

Just get a build strong enough to invalidate the bosses, at that point the encounter rooms become much harder

I'd rather pay lernie tax twice than have to deal with speeder drakons as rama

[vestal pagoda]

how does delta chamber interact with hestia again
can you never reload or are you still able to

[vale heart]

You can

[signal hornet]

Yeah at least you can still reload. I guess I can’t complain about rng much though with my attack and dash boons. They were the true carry

Running Approval Process two after all

[vale heart]

Play modded and you'll at least be able to guarantee the most bare bones parts of your build

• art isn't that good on hestia without chaos boons to boost it up

You go from oneshotting 90% of enemies every time to oneshotting every enemy 15% of the time

[heavy solar]

This is why we use athena attack arte special and hit deadly reversal

/j

[heavy solar]

Oneshot enemies every time and have crit chance

Joking

[signal hornet]

Oh i did have an Chaos boon for hitting undamaged foes. Pretty sure it was epic too.

Super lucky rng on that run

For AP2. I guess it’s time to learn EM4!

[random forum]

Oh my god I thought you had DC active and was losing it

[signal hornet]

Lmao not losing it yet.

[obsidian harness]

ap2 40 heat

gg

[random forum]

Didn’t even notice ap2 lmao

Lucky as hell getting two attack hammers in that case

[obsidian harness]

i mean neither do anything for hestia

[heavy solar]

Only relevant attack hammers for hestia are ricochet and explosive and piercing

[random forum]

Delta chamber helps with safety and seeking fire helps

[tired shoal]

Guan Yu moment.

Ngl, gy runs are the most focused I ever am in a run.

[heavy solar]

Why run meme beams on gy? It ain’t a castpect?

Wait nevermind I’m assuming it wasn’t focusing meme beams you just hit it heroic and so it got pinned nevermind

[tired shoal]

Ye.

[random forum]

I mean, lv3 glare

[tired shoal]

Mom Pom.

[versed crane]

Ok Eternal Spear 2

Gy and achilles are both op

And zagspear has 5:25 so it's probably op too

[heavy solar]

True!

[lunar peak]

was this a good build

[bold jolt]

not particularly lol
meme beams on hera is pretty pointless, considering you can do the exact same thing without using hera

the only added benefit is that it's a bow

on the other hand, if you did it on achilles or even pos sword it would've been perfectly fine because of the % bonus it gets

[lunar peak]

wait meme beam is demeter's cast not exagryph lucifer aspect?

[bold jolt]

yes

luci's beam is actually practical and good lol

[lunar peak]

bruh lucifer never worked for me whats a good build for it

[bold jolt]

#h1-builds-and-combat

[tired shoal]

Bouldy clap.

[tired shoal]

Another Bouldy Clap.

[bold jolt]

this is a legacy moment

[tired shoal]

Indeed.

[random forum]

Congrats

[silver hinge]

I am in pain, vicariously

[random forum]

Hell mode run 12 or something

[obsidian harness]

New Record!

[random forum]

Dopamine released

[hollow jacinth]

Nice mirage shot

[summer trail]

this concludes my em3 all weapons run

now for em4 all weapons

[lunar peak]

was this a bad shotgun build?

i weakly followed some advice i think i read from a website a few days ago

yea probably

[heavy solar]

I mean with spreadfire zagrail it’s nicer to run a % based attack

[heavy solar]

Was it this website? https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide#aspect-of-talos-fists

Cuz this one is valid

[heavy solar]

All the pos cores here other than tdash are kind of meh on zagrail tbh

[lunar peak]

not sure but thx for the suggestion

[solemn talon]

(aspect of Demeter)

[heavy solar]

[lunar peak]

this worked out so much better than i thought
have no idea y i didnt get sub 20 tho

[hollow jacinth]

Probably because of your pact

[versed crane]

Bruh js1 cp1

[vale heart]

Cursed pact and mirror fr

[vale heart]

Jury summons slows you down, and so does damage control/calisthenics program. Tight deadline can too since you don't get survival room, but eh. Also, try pausing a lot whenever you make decisions, and take free rooms like chaos/midshop/miniboss/story rooms whenever you see them

These alone will shave your times down by a ton

no tdash achilles

but yeah hunting blades doesn't care

[random forum]

Slow tbh

[obsidian harness]

sick rare crop

[grim ocean]

just beat meg for the first time 2.4 hours in, loving hades so far

so glad my friend bullied me into playing it

[tired shoal]

This is why we should support bullying.

[grim ocean]

playing on hell mode rn because he told me to

usually i stick to easy on my first playthrough but its fun so far

[tired shoal]

What's Hell Mode?

[grim ocean]

basically just makes the game harder from what i can tell

[bold jolt]

yeah

game hard and pain

[tired shoal]

Oh damn.

[bold jolt]

permanent hl1, lc1, js1, cp1, and pl is fun

and you can't use god mode with it

[grim ocean]

i really want to watch the speedrunning history videos and exploit videos on this game but I don't want to spoil anything for myself

sad days

[bold jolt]

there's not that many "exploits" in this game, and the ones that exist can easily be overlooked unless you actually pay attention to numbers

like, you can happen to use one of the builds that exploits a bug, but not know about it

[spark flicker]

Another messy build but now I've only got the Bow left to escape with

Also my second 2 streak

[random forum]

Poggers

Look at that two DDs to spare

Ez clap wrecked dad on god bussin bussin frfr

[spark flicker]

I love the story in this game
Quickly approaching the 10 escapes thing for the story

[tame spire]

poseidon call crits do damage

[bold jolt]

Castpect eris let's go

[tame spire]

shield makes em4 easy

[random forum]

Beowulf makes everything easy

And the hell mode streak begins

[heavy solar]

?

[paper oxide]

?

[random forum]

Literally my only defensive keepsake on this save 😩

[paper oxide]

yep

all i'm doing is grinding darkness. figured it'd be fun

[random forum]

I cleared when I finally got Zeus keepsake instead of muscle memory picking up every boon from him

210 darkness clear vrej

13 but I didn’t use smelly shield tbh

I almost cleared on 9 or 10 idr

But no Zeus keepsake lmao

[obsidian harness]

damn almost sub 40 :/

[random forum]

Achilles without the Achilles

[obsidian harness]

nice hammers

[random forum]

Achilles flurry jab is the closest Switch players can get to played modded change my mind

[versed crane]

Modded switch

[heavy solar]

I mean
You can just
Mod a switch

[random forum]

Why do I get the feeling that there’s no support for hades mods on custom switch firmware

[obsidian harness]

don’t you have to solder your switch to mod it

[paper oxide]

not according to this guide it took me 10 seconds to find

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/rthpl7/guide_modding_hades_on_the_nintendo_switch_for/

[obsidian harness]

i meant modding a switch, not modding hades on switch

[random forum]

Jägerspurt

[random forum]

throws frisbee

[heavy solar]

Huge RD

[bold jolt]

rd moment

[heavy solar]

Only problem was damage before getting rd was abysmal

[bold jolt]

drunk strike moment

[heavy solar]

Because I also had like 0 poms before I found rd

[bold jolt]

based

[heavy solar]

Well
0 poms on drunk strike

[random forum]

No smair 😢

[heavy solar]

Correct

[spark flicker]

oh god my cats haven't sent any messages here have they

there was a lot typed out

I'm sorry mods

[random forum]

[tame spire]

beowulf the braindead

[bold jolt]

30 min beo run gaming

rip no mirage

[obsidian harness]

tooth with 3 dds

[random forum]

It’s the only way to be sure

Rather cursed pact

[tame spire]

beo beats the cursed pact once again

[random forum]

Try MM instead of BP, and give FO1 a try. It’s not as bad as it might sound

If you want to try new things that is

[bold jolt]

tmw you get every duo but mirage shot

[snow pine]

beat Hades for the first time since turning God Mode off

[random forum]

Based

[paper oxide]

definitely just mashing buttons. arthur sucks. 948 darkness from dad though

[bold jolt]

lmfao based

[random forum]

That is one of the builds I’ve ever seen

[paper oxide]

who needs a build when i have tidal dash

and 9 heat

:p

[tired shoal]

Facts.

[bold jolt]

every weapon is aspect of tidal dash

the best part about darkness farming is that you want to start pos anyways lmao

[lunar peak]

was this good

[random forum]

Would be better if you flipped swapped attack and special, and cast and dash

[lunar peak]

damn you're right

[tired shoal]

No Yo-Yo Fist? Cring.

[obsidian harness]

those in glass houses

[random forum]

Good work

[tired shoal]

Huh?

[random forum]

Can legacy be a scam if you don’t even have it unlocked yet?

Notably absent is the duo I actually kind of wanted but with only 5 Chiron bolts it’s kind of not the end of the world

[tired shoal]

Lel.

[neat kraken]

good good.

Went from the most dumb run to one of the most fun runs I have had

I have never put out so many Artemis Calls against the final fight

Primary attack

[random forum]

Super soaker

[neat kraken]

100%

[lunar peak]

wtf is that

[tired shoal]

It’s Talos fist plus Tempest Flourish.

Very fun.

[lunar peak]

ok

[heavy solar]

[tired shoal]

What’s your dmg res at?

[snow pine]

it was at 80%

before I turned it off

[tired shoal]

Oh same.

Nice.

[lunar peak]

never had so many duos before

how do i do these type of great runs again, do i just have to be lucky?

because for this run i just started with the pom blossom i didnt even use a god keepsake

[tired shoal]

Huh, well expect some more cuz I've had at least 3 runs like this before.

[lunar peak]

first stygian blade win with Arthur

[tired shoal]

NOICE!!!!

[north turtle]

MExcalibur

[tired shoal]

MExcalibur

[left ridge]

Really fun build, just got a little scared at the end cause I'm not used to SD (forgot to disable it after 32 heat fails) but I'm happy I got right under 15 minutes

[heavy solar]

Using fated persuasion and just generally knowing which cores will open which duos should help

[tired shoal]

SD GAMING!!!!

WOOOOH

[left ridge]

I don't like SD x) I only use it for LC4

[tired shoal]

Sadge.

I thought u were based.

:(

[bold jolt]

you can be based and use dd

[tired shoal]

Well yeah, but it's a lot harder than just using Superior Defiance in the first place.

[bold jolt]

using dd at 40 heat

[tired shoal]

All facts.

[vale heart]

40 heat while taking em4

[tired shoal]

Alright peeps, name the most valid situation where DD is based.

[bold jolt]

anything less than like 25 heat

[tired shoal]

Cap.

[bold jolt]

lc4 takes off so much heat that it's worth taking somewhat early instead of dealing with crap pacts, and until then using dd is much better

normal rooms aren't murdering you in lowish heat

[vale heart]

I did 32 with dds lmao

[bold jolt]

i mean youre a good enough player where it doesn't matter lol

but generally

[vale heart]

No this was a while ago

My very first 32

I was trash

This one

I only had one sub10 at that point 😩

[bold jolt]

well didn't do lc4 so no reason to

[vale heart]

Really should've, jury summons is hell

[vale heart]

This was literally almost 2 months ago

[random forum]

Just get Clockets on your first eris run

[snow pine]

just no-hit Hades with a stupidly powerful aspect of rama

[vale heart]

Were you only using special?

With a good build the regular shot can instaphase dad fight

[bold jolt]

Clean dad fight tho still

[snow pine]

yeah only special

regular shot is too slow

especially with the slower daedalus I got

[vale heart]

That explains it lmao

[vale heart]

Rama is so good specifically because it's insane at both widespread and targeted damage. You unfortunately made a mistake by taking explosive shot because that's its worst hammer, but trust me, if you get around the learning curve and use both parts of rama's kit, it's insane

[snow pine]

I was basically Zeri

[vale heart]

Without speed boosts from forced overtime or benefits package, rama can pretty freely charge up with good positioning

Zeri?

[snow pine]

league character

[vale heart]

🤢

[snow pine]

lmao

[versed crane]

use SD so you can reset faster in unmodded

[bold jolt]

True

[versed crane]

bruh no jolted

[left ridge]

Fresh file, 5th attempt

At some point, I really want to complete an escape on my first run

[versed crane]

whats your highest heat

[left ridge]

20

[versed crane]

just a warning, first run is compared to 45/50 often

[bold jolt]

lmao fun stuff

nice 5th run tho

[paper oxide]

maybe i just get crap builds but my attempts at regular rama could never do this.

[vale heart]

Art strike with twin + perfect/point blank + chaos boosts = mongo damage

[paper oxide]

yeah i'm just not sure about instaphasing

[bold jolt]

twin shot + the shared suffering damage does a ton

if you get perfect/point blank then it's also a crap ton

[random forum]

Perfect Clear? So you never got hit the entire run? Based

[bold jolt]

nah you get it if you end with full hp

[random forum]

Truly

[bold jolt]

they lost their dd and tooth going in lol

[random forum]

TIL

Ah true

[snow pine]

didn't get the option, else I would've taken it.

?

[bold jolt]

fated authority moment

possible yeah lol

[snow pine]

wat

I want more hammers

that's bs

I want more hammers

[obsidian harness]

anvil for 3

[bold jolt]

it's called balance lol

[snow pine]

alright

guess I'll spend 10 gems to redo my entire mirror

[bold jolt]

it's 1 key

[snow pine]

10 gems for a key

[obsidian harness]

10 gems exchange for key

yea

[snow pine]

I have no keys

[bold jolt]

oh lmao rip

[snow pine]

I need to refund points if I want to put points into persuasion

[bold jolt]

darkness for fated is very expensive

[snow pine]

yeah

it's like 1k or something for the first level

[obsidian harness]

need ricochet piercing explosive hestia

[snow pine]

resource director?

no

lmao

[random forum]

Now I have two runs to farm darkness before I cheese the third skelly statue

[heavy solar]

suboptimal move right there resource director is too goated

[paper oxide]

Hestia dash topping the meters

yeah purple one scales really well. not quite tdash but close. not as good at crowd controlling though

[bold jolt]

the true nasty dash

[paper oxide]

flareup dash is truly the bane of chronic illness sufferers everywhere

[lunar peak]

wait so persuasion is better than authroity??

but i farm darkness so slow and only my authority is nearly maxed

bruh

i have more authority rolls than persuasion

and rn i wanna save darkness to 3k for the nyx peophwcy

[heavy solar]

[heavy solar]

How many times have people said “use persuasion” to you I swear I’ve seen it at least 5 times but my memory ain’t great

Or 9 heat

[heavy solar]

Persuasion is better for farming darkness then authority because it enables you to clear faster and bosses give significantly more darkness then darkness rooms

Plus just grab oceans bounty from pos and/ or darkness % from chaos ez

If fated authority could get you chaos rooms it’s actually be ok

[bold jolt]

this is a #h1-victory-boasting moment

[heavy solar]

Exactly

[lunar peak]

ok but i dont wanna use persuasion until i max it

cuz whats the point when i already have maxed authority

[bold jolt]

if you reset your mirror, you can max persuasion

persuasion is actually cheaper than authority to max

so you'll get some darkness back

[heavy solar]

Just use a key to reset your mirror and get all the darkness so you can re-allot levels

Also switch over to deep pockets at the same time tbh

[solid fog]

AHHHHHHHHH

[bold jolt]

absolutely based

[solid fog]

its what i was told to do here so

lmao how so

[heavy solar]

@bold jolt you were right

dio call does scale linearly

[bold jolt]

That's so based lmao

That's fat hangover

With Rd smair holy

[heavy solar]

No low tolerance or ares for con though

[bold jolt]

Fds gaming

[heavy solar]

FDS?

[bold jolt]

Flat damage soup

[heavy solar]

True

Pos cast on pos sword wasn’t working but the gods lined up for dio aid smair so I took it

[bold jolt]

The best part of pos sword is that if you get a good normal sword build you can just ignore the cast lol

[heavy solar]

Yeah

dio aid went up 4 per pom is the thing that got confirmed though

After first pom

[jovial sinew]

Two very lucky boon runs

[spark flicker]

literally the worst successful escape ever I hated it the entire time
even sold athena's call because JEEZ I never realized it's so garbage
but I then never got another
At least I upgraded the special to send 5 tracking arrows instead of 4

*the bow itself

[heavy solar]

*chiron itself

Bow is gaming

Chiron is just discount zag bow

Plus chiron doesn’t really come into its own until 4th or 5th level

[spark flicker]

Oh snap
I forgot it'd do this but that was my last weapon needed for the Master Of Arms Prophecy

[rotund sphinx]

Just beat EM4 Hades for the first time ever. Was my second try; first try was a horrid build with junk DPS outside of my call.

?

[heavy solar]

Explosive + charged non-hidden spears are really similiar to charged guan-yu

Hades also has built in additive

[versed crane]

so does zag spear

smh

[rotund sphinx]

Yeah, I'd have used Zag Spear if i'd known I was going to end up with a special build

[heavy solar]

Hades spear is more ideal for a special focused build

[rotund sphinx]

I was too busy Shoot'n to do a spin

[heavy solar]

It gives way more additive damage and removes flurry jab from the equation making it easier to hit explosive and charged skewer

[heavy solar]

It would’ve been a huge damage boost if you had even hit hades once with a spin tbh

Since hades spear spin is a damage boost to attack and special

[rotund sphinx]

I had around 260% additive or something, and my Hades is only level 3, so probably about a 35% increase per hit

Though it wouldn't boost the thunderbolts coming from the knockback and from the fog

Does the zag special speed affect charge time, or just the projectile speed?

[heavy solar]

Is still a sizable chunk

+100% additive is gaming whichever way you spin it

[rotund sphinx]

+100% is amazing, but since I only had +90% on spin, it still sucked

[heavy solar]

The spin would’ve given your special +100%

[rotund sphinx]

At level 3 it's +90% though?

[heavy solar]

Have I misremembered hades damage scaling?

Either way

[rotund sphinx]

30/60/90/120/150

[heavy solar]

+90% is still amazing

[heavy solar]

Ah I had it through my head that it was 50/75/100/125/150 for whatever reason

[signal hornet]

32 heat with the sword

[bold jolt]

gaming

[signal hornet]

Haha yeah I got to practice with the shield. Saving it for last

[heavy solar]

[signal hornet]

I’m not brave enough for FO2 tbh. I’ll just reset until AP is nice to me lol

[vale heart]

:')

My brain is fried

[heavy solar]

Is so sad because ap is more annoying than fo2 but gives worse heat

[signal hornet]

Man I must be the only person who doesn’t mind AP. You right tho

[heavy solar]

It’s just annoying plus fo2 is free, it literally quickens my runs

And I’m not playing modded nor do I reset runs so ap is kind of annoying

[bold jolt]

if you're not trying to do anything too crazy, then ap isn't that bad. you can make a lot of bad combos work with enough skill

it drives you crazy when the duo you want gets blocked off 15 times in 3 separate runs

[vale heart]

so true

or when athena sd charges keep getting crossed out

[signal hornet]

True. I rarely go for duos. Resetting for good core boons in Tartarus is annoying though

[heavy solar]

It drives you crazy when the duo literally everything you want gets blocked off 15 runs in a row

[bold jolt]

tmw you think you're gonna have a good run and then ap1 crosses off mirage shot 5 times between 2 boons

[vale heart]

😩

[heavy solar]

[lunar peak]

2nd win today with Excalibur again

[vale heart]

Only way for fists to be fun fr

[heavy solar]

6 minutes in asphodel this looking like one of my runs

[vale heart]

I'm not even pausing between rooms anymore the sub6 took everything out of me

[bold jolt]

based

[tawdry root]

@vale heart here is your sub 8 you asked for yesterday

[bold jolt]

heck yea buddy

[vale heart]

HUGE

[bold jolt]

huge ares atk

[vale heart]

big poms

no rd kinda rough but quick reload low key feels better on hera vs bosses

[spark flicker]

What a beautiful game
(also 10% mad I didn't get to use my well-put-together build but w/e lol) Love this story ending
Also don't mind my intentionally spoiler-safe screenshot lol

[bold jolt]

wait is that only 1 hermes?

poggers

[vale heart]

Congrats!

Is that flurry chainshot

[tawdry root]

nope triple chain

which is certainly a combination of hammers

[vale heart]

oh right unmodded

wait that's actually insane

[tawdry root]

all my runs are either great hammers, no pb or garbage hammers, new pb

it's tbh not terrible honestly, especially with doom... but not something i built towards. at all. lol

it was fun

[heavy solar]

Smh imagine not using codex tevh between rooms

[vale heart]

😩

[heavy solar]

Who cares if you can’t submit the run to speedrun.com, your pb will be looking mad low

[vale heart]

I don't wanna scum it like that lmao

[heavy solar]

Valid

[vale heart]

I went through several days of mind numbing grinding for this run I don't wanna taint it

Only way to make this trash weapon fun fr

[heavy solar]

Grind darkness and up your resource director rank rn

Also I think I keep forgetting to turn off @ing on replys my b

[bold jolt]

absolutely based

[obsidian harness]

worst build ever

not a scrap of damage

[bold jolt]

lmfao

win's a win tho

[lunar peak]

this was a close call

is tehre a hunting blade guide anywhere i rly like the duo

[obsidian harness]

build lol

ft the rare crop of all time

[obsidian harness]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eAOEli9KqJOVyPD7U-6D1o1yZx1tDMQWLDcMJr8G84E/edit

speedrun specific but generally should still apply

[lunar peak]

ty

[tawdry root]

the rarest crop: when it actually contributes to the build

[random forum]

Good job!

[hollow jacinth]

Yoooooooooo

Sick

[lunar peak]

wow that's cool

[primal crown]

🎉

congrats

[left ridge]

That was a really strong combo

[heavy solar]

True

[left ridge]

Also the first time I get the Disciple of Hermes message

[heavy solar]

[worn rune]

First 16 heat run, Cursed slash + Plus flurry slash+ swift strike saved me

[heavy solar]

Flurry cursed slash 💀

[heavy solar]

I missed second hermes

[random forum]

L

[heavy solar]

I think my pact was slightly cursed with hl5 fo2

[heavy solar]

Yo’rre an L

My crits on either shot were doing about 843 damage

[random forum]

Disciple of Zoos

[paper oxide]

i was trying to do a build around striking sparks but i didn't get it until the champs fight =/ neat concept though. i don't like that only hestia attack/special qualify for it though

[bold jolt]

wait that duo looks busted

[heavy solar]

especially with hunters mark

and pressure points

and support fire

[bold jolt]

yeah, zag bow and nem would have a field day with that

[random forum]

Just use it with Nem or zagbow

Damn I’m too slow

[bold jolt]

or heart rend chiron

is there an internal cooldown for that lmao

[heavy solar]

or artemis attack eternal chamber luci /j

[bold jolt]

lmfao

[random forum]

Use it with merciful end deadly reversal fists

You’d just have to sell your cores after getting the duos

And then get another duo

Eznp

[heavy solar]

based

[bold jolt]

epic hesty strike is a 36-40% boost lmfao

it says it attracts foes but idk what that means

[random forum]

They get sprung

[paper oxide]

it pulls them in

it's interesting with zeus shield

duo is good with bow and nem sword. it would be good on fists if you could guarantee it early, but unlike ME your attack just does zero damage until you get hte duo so i'm dubious

same problem with gun

probably insane for spread fire though

[bold jolt]

maybe

[paper oxide]

not sure if internal cooldown or not

all the hydra heads exploded in one volley though

[random forum]

Sounds like cooldown tbh

[bold jolt]

gaming

[vale heart]

Sea storm eris is super fun but then you realize it isn't meta because clockets exists 😩

[random forum]

I could have gotten Clockets but chose to have the rng not offer it

[paper oxide]

well duo isn't THAT cracked since it only did 11%

best part is what it does to the battlefield XD

[bold jolt]

lmfao

[vestal pagoda]

unlimited destruction

[vale heart]

Local gigachad voluntarily limits his overwhelming power

[vale heart]

1: it's budget sea storm since zeus has like 15 damage sources to scale from + splashing will happen more than crits, so not surprising
2: send hestia mod pics

I'm curious to see their design for her

[paper oxide]

her picture or boons?

[random forum]

I don’t get why everyone says ME is so good this run had no damage what did I do wrong

[bold jolt]

common doom

[paper oxide]

common doom

[random forum]

Oh that must be why

[bold jolt]

yeah

get legendary doom

[vale heart]

Art

[random forum]

I did phase one and most of phase 2 at full Hp cuz Athena legendary cracked

With acorn

[vale heart]

Based, get rare crop then have eury ambrosia it

[bold jolt]

true

[vale heart]

Athena legendary is bad lmao

[random forum]

Mainly I stuck with this run so I could have the clear pic as pro-legacy propaganda to counteract all of Shackle’s anti legacy propaganda

[bold jolt]

i mean it's good for survivability

[vale heart]

Like don't some people take tooth for em4 just because acorn might get hit by tiny hits

[obsidian harness]

why is it pro legacy

[vale heart]

20 seconds might as well be 20 minutes

[bold jolt]

it's good for fresh file lol

[paper oxide]

k playing magic give me a minute

[random forum]

Because I didn’t get merciful end the entire run 😦

[vale heart]

The entire server is anti legacy propaganda

Anything not named beowulf would rather have pride

[obsidian harness]

tooth is also good for styx

[obsidian harness]

oh i didn’t even notice LOL

also anti pride since you got common doom anyway

[random forum]

True

My two epics were from nectar

[bold jolt]

should run olympian favor then

[random forum]

Good point tbh

[versed crane]

Its because you have 1 roll

[obsidian harness]

rolling for rarity kinda sucks bad

[random forum]

But I have the fated keys at least!

[heady portal]

#h1-discussion for discussion please, thank you!

[random forum]

Simply

[lunar peak]

cool

[vale heart]

Because highrolling for both is inefficient

If you want to do that, you'd have to specifically have zeus attack, art special, poseidon cast and dash (or call and dash, then sell call off after sea storm), sea storm, and clockets

when you could just hope for clockets and make do with zeus attack, jolted, and art special

[hollow jacinth]

wow elysium sucks

[bold jolt]

gaming

[hollow jacinth]

2:58 aspho exit

[bold jolt]

rip it do be like that

this is an ely moment

[hollow jacinth]

wow styx sucks

[bold jolt]

it do be like that

[hollow jacinth]

styx wasnt that bad actually, the splits were very average for a 7 flat

[bold jolt]

blame the common rd lol

[hollow jacinth]

fr

[obsidian harness]

fists sub 7 🔜

[hollow jacinth]

soon ™️

[random forum]

Styxshop ME based

[bold jolt]

MEment

[hollow jacinth]

cule

[tired shoal]

nuce.

[tame spire]

crime pays

[random forum]

SMH lunch money thief

[hollow jacinth]

dang thats 4 fist runs in a row from this channel

[random forum]

#aotw

[tame spire]

flame wheels are awful with fists

[random forum]

Flame wheels are free

Just dash across ocdtsbles

Obstacles smh phone

SMH 🤦‍♀️ someone needs to do a fist run asap then

[random forum]

Nectar carry

Maybe you shouldn’t have died twice

[random forum]

Dem^2

Oops

Should have been dem fists tbh

[lunar peak]

first mirage build

[bold jolt]

hunter's flare based

[heavy solar]

Who at ssg decided that hunter flare and true shot would have a super low crit chance

Smh

[bold jolt]

yeah it should be 100% crit chance

should nerf the damage by about 66% to balance it tho

[obsidian harness]

accidentally made my clears for each wep symmetrical

[bold jolt]

based

[heavy solar]

🧠🧠🧠

[lunar peak]

i didnt get it until like elysium because i kept getting flares which are inferior to shots right?

for casting

i was so annoyed every cast offer was a flare

[lunar peak]

because flares dont get duos right?

[bold jolt]

you can only get flares on beowulf

and flares can get duos

just not certain duos like parting shot or hunting blades

also im pretty sure shot and flare do the same amount of damage, it just has a different aoe affect

[lunar peak]

wait what but im p sure i rmbr getting shots on beowulf multiple times??

nvm then

[bold jolt]

the only shot you can get on beo is mirage shot lol

[lunar peak]

is it bad to just spam cast after getting a rly good one and not attack anymore

[obsidian harness]

charged shot :bould:

oops ping enabled

[bold jolt]

Oh yeah forgot about that

[tired shoal]

No, that’s just a good cast build.

[heavy solar]

You cannot get shots on beowulf

Aside from ones that aren’t core boons

[heavy solar]

SD gaming is kinda rough

[bold jolt]

Meus gaming

I could say the same about yours lol

I'd get better rng personally

[rain ruin]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/931680030856200232/860890017613873193.webp

[paper oxide]

hyper rush probably pushed lightning rod over the edge but look at all those chaos attack boons and heavy knuckle still wasn't top dps.

maybe if it was a heart rend build it would have been different

[heavy solar]

Because I don’t use shield often

[heavy solar]

Heavy knuckle doesn’t apply to your dash strikes though