#h1-victory-boasting
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by a metric ton
Means more per run resources
quality victory boasting
normally you will get about 50% rewards that help your current run and 50% rewards that don't
Iβll definitely consider it when I get heat.
Noooooooice
basically it spoils you and having it taken away later on becomes absolutely brutal
it's that op
More boons/hearts/hammers rooms rather than darkness/gemstones/ gifts
Ahhhhh.
Gotcha.
Guess this is a more in depth victory screen.
I would recommend shield for people trying to get first clears or past that tbh
Lel, nah bro I'm a fists main now. (prolly finna do a spear run soon tho)
Lel, think I crossed that hurdle.
Oh my god max heat
Inded.
fists pb
Ai, lemme turn this down now.
Naisu, fellow fist main.
They have literally 10 times as many runs on several other weapons
Looks like a speedrun main
C3 ME
I would simply get it in courtyard
Not a sub1 tart, reset
what in the lvl3 athena special
that is just required for the me
to trigger
yeah but why the poms
nectars
oh I see
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sad they didn't dump on ares
Wasted run won't even beat td1
first thing i got was athena special so yea (and let's end the discussion here or mods will get mad)
this is just the inevitable consequence of even long time and trusted users having no discussion channel with image permissions
so
just embed
obv I know you can
doesn't make it any less of a massive pain in the ass
Triple Bomb Lucy is funny
very early merciful end (also my fastest time)
this was the best rng i've ever gotten
i wonder how much faster i could've gotten with optimal heat
sadly i was farming list of minor prophecies and story stuff
jesus christ
Damn you stopped playing basically as soon as 1.0 came out
would've been run 3, but I got strongbow summons in the final boss, and didn't have the damage to kill them quickly or ignore them
took ~100 damage from the first batch
when he summoned again and it was the same composition, I just gave up
numbskulls and splitters, yeah
not that I needed it that time
double nova is good
I've never enjoyed a bow run without both of these hammers
Nice side hustle
Nice Chiron gaming /j
weird run but it worked
π i already had lightning strike so i figured i just wanted to hit more. could have been charged shot but the rest of the build was already done and lightning strike charged shot didn't seem that great
yeah arguably cshot would've been a downgrade here
Common quick favor letting you use your call .4 seconds faster
Pulv blow hits faster than lightning strike internal cooldown no?
oh i didn't know that
Lightning strike is a .15 second cooldown iirc
where distant memory
No mirror gaming
I also love how even with all the attack bonuses it still does less damage than max lvl hesty
tempest strike gaming
Maybe because you used drunken strike 
Aid goes brr
Try using aphrodite's attack instead, you'll do a lot more damage
plus sweet surrender can be nice afterwards
my problem isn't the damage (the damage seems fine)
my problem is speed (even though i have attack speed and special speed from hermes it's way too slow)
I'm sure aphrodite attack does big damage
Legit just donβt do the big combo and instead dstrike and hope for dedge tbh
nah big combo is fine
as long as you're dashing between swings as needed
it doesn't have enough knockback to really mess anything up, and rupture is a nice bonus
oh interesting
serrated point is good
zag spear gaming lmao
thats gaming
Really regret taking hourglass into styx instead of dad call
Didn't have rush but chaos got me 104% so that's basically epic hyper delivery
Got lucky with a cshot start too
Niiiice
speedy gaming
good job
if you want to push faster than that you should really use hc and fo2
Fo2 will add 40 seconds to my time because aspho skeletons will hop the border into a completely different continent
I just forget to turn on hc because I play reckless enough to burn death defiances thanks to it π
yeah but thats unlikely
and it saves sooo much time overall
like 5s in hades fight alone
True but all the other enemies come to you sooner so
yeah also i didnt realize you were unmodded
that makes a bit more sense then
id still recommend switching but yeah no guaranteed cshot sucks
just reset for cshot
yeah honestly you probably should if you want to go faster than that lol
you dont need to but its gonna be pretty hard
Sub7 seconds*
True
Entirely possible bc I've learned like 4 rooms' spawn manips and made a bunch of mistakes (like no dad call lmao)
Based
No dad call is a mistake π
Listen I was hoping styx wells would give me braid
nice ce
What's ce-
cheat engine
Throwing in a fake to throw us off your trail there
finally got privileged status; things should be faster now
Pstatus gaming
got stuck having to sell low tolerance didn't matter had splash dash
lol i didn't realize that was the last one.
i'll keep moving up until it's unbearable
lmao fair enough
at some point you could turn on the guaranteed hammer on or something so you dont get shafted by ap2 lmao
eris gaming, forgot that hades call makes dad use the previous move again and got slapped with a spin while hugging his lasers
also rod gaming
also kinda proud of the barely above 1 min dad fight with an aspect i've never used
i've never liked rail because of the reload
it's hard for me to manage
hesty moment
got clockets, wish i got it on eris
got dad down to phases insanely fast, if it was eris it would've been instaphases
"Rail reload is hard to manage"
"Lemme just pick up the gun I gotta reload after every shot"
That is kinda funny. There's a mod that auto reloads that I haven't tried but might make rail easier for you π
the game auto reloads by itself lol
so obviously the modder didn't create it to have no functionality, but like i said i didn't try it out so i'm not sure what the difference is.
maybe it doesn't wait for you to try to shoot before it reloads or something
i sold it in styx so i could afford to buy poms and have a better chance of hitting doom
i mean i didn't need the special anymore
Lmao thing is with eris I'm not counting how many bullets and I'm not looking at the counter. With hesty I know that I have to reload after every shot no matter what
It auto reloads when you stop firing at 0 and frankly I never let go of the button lol
Bruh nice dash
I just get into a habit of unloading a mag and special, reloading during downtime
I don't know what the proper rhythm actually is
But it's eris so who cares
For my nonexistent PS obviously
i was trying lightning phalanx hera and as usual whenever i try to get lightning phalanx i don't
that went -ok-
So close to beating my personal best :/
Was arthur the one you got it with
If you're trying to go fast, meg companion saves you oodles of time
Nem fan myself but arthur can be very funny
my personal favourite part of the aspect is the wind-up on the 2nd and 3rd hits of the main combo funnily enough
with proper timing you can instantly kill most enemies the second they spawn
I prefer watching it do 1300 damage to a boss
Same
use high confidence if you want to get faster times, use deep pockets (speedrunning or not it's just better), fiery presence might be better so you can get 1 shots in tart and aspho, gods' pride over legacy because there aren't any important duos arthur needs
em2 and fo2 is the standard speedrunning pact as well
noted
How bad is the delay on than
good chance dad will darkness and you'll miss because of it
and good chance than won't hit the bull if it's chasing you
i guess you could stand in it
but it makes miniboss summons harder to utilize
Antos >>>>> meg
no damage on champs gaming
or witches circle
or bomber tart miniboss
or any miniboss that has more than 1 enemy i guess lmao
I love that summon destroys all projectiles
I can be licking a witch bullet and meg will take it out of my mouth for me
I do so love the fact that this completely scuffed run was only 14 seconds off from my best run with Exagryph lol
funny green laser go brrr
Bruh blue balls
like i said, scuffed run
True super soaker players run poseidon on all cores
anyway, finally got the super duper secret ending, so that's neat
The epilogue?
yep
Artemis was the last person i needed to give the invitation to
so i had to take one of her boons, and the attack one seemed the funniest, so i did
yeah i still don't like arthur lmao
common aphro atk 
almost 12:34.56 time tho, 0.05 off
accidentally got sub8 trippy beo lmao
also mod bugged and gave me explosive return in aspho instead of cshot, got cshot in ely thankfully
oh wait nvm apparently i had the bright idea to put it to explosive return for some reason
how tf did that happen
gonna blame that for not getting a sub7 for sure
Beo 1trick smh
idk what you're on about
also it had dark thirst and i was like "haha funky color"
also i wasn't even trying to go fast i just wanted to play trippy beo lmfao
i kept getting good chaos and wells
i went into furies with +1 cast from chaos, another from a well, and 2 braids
Bruh 2 chaos shots
ely moment
zoomzoom
i found one naturally then a few rooms later forced another from a well lmao
bruh
this couldve pbed
yeah
idk how that happened
i never touched beo tho
my aspho would've been much faster but idk if it'd be more than a minute faster tho
Based
darkness.
keep in mind, this absolutely shreds my old pb at 11:21.xx... i set that one, took a four-day break, and after two (2) runs in my last session, set this. nyaa will approve as well because it has blown kiss
hehe
Congratulations! 
Best boon.
i can't lie and say it didn't make me miss a few times. but overall the extra damage on first hit made up for it i think. but yeah, 10:30 is great... it's time to go all the way tho
also had chain and point-blank... if i had twin flurry, i could have sub 10:15'd i think. maybe
nice job but where snurst
Where sub 7
true
Wait skull earring gaming
Skull earring over dad call massive brain
Nice useless parting shot
Actually i don't fully understand how it works
Does it start with 35 and tack on extra backstab boosts
Still useless
like you
wrong but alright
parting shot literally sells for like 400 gold it's so good
like you
like you
Like me
Scuffed eris but at least it's a sub 10
Didn't get rocket bomb until 2nd tart shop so that slowed me down a lot
And no jolted :')
tmw you get a good seed but you waste it on a meme run
i think this is the new meta for beo guys
also legacy is a scam
shame no tdash but oh well
oh common rd btw
38 sec dad fight, started massively lagging in p1p3 because there were too many particles on screen
and beginning of phase 2
Where mark π€¨
says the person with common rd rare rav will common snow burst and a common chaos boon
i never said pride wasn't a scam
they're both scams
it's just that legacy is more obvious
thats why ri1 is free
rerolls tho
i had to reroll for heart rend
not for mirage or sweet nectar tho ofc not
no dark foresight means more blue laurels means more keys means more rerolls
π§
oh based
I'm never wrong
say that next time you try an ME build
I get ME c9 on 50 heat where's the problem
oh yeah when i do ME i'm never gonna get ME with legacy and i'll get common doom with pride
Curse of agony phalanx cast hera/beo ME build
until youre like super high level
Just 1.2.0 - M tbh
i just look at what's epic/rare and hit give up and choose a corresponding aspect
Legal for high heat lb
no it isnt??
oh huh thats wacky
oh damn
angel really completed 63
gratz
Reset for heroic >:)
um
nevermind my mind was on zeus shield
que
the casts did by far the brunt of the damage
i thought it was zeus for a second
Guys im sorry for the crap quality but I ain't got discord on the ps4, don't even think I can anyway, and i ain't allowed to get the app on my phone coz I share it with my lil brother (17 and 9, I wouldn't want all the notifications with all the bs gc he in anyway) but...
YES!
congrats!
Thanks dude! Same for you!! π
Your stats are so much better than mine tho-
Like holy hell 33 skulls? I can barely manage 3
oh dude i've been playing non stop for like 4 months and basically everyone here is better than me don't worry about it :p
well you're new here. i've been here since i started so lots of help from people who know a lot more than me.
Ah, ok ok tbh I joined the other day lmao-
New bow pb whoo
Idk recall doesn't help that much and I didn't get any good hammer
Only even had one hammer and it was the chain link one
Sweet nectar was from elysium too so it did nothing
Tru
I need to git gud with hera
I still don't get why sometimes casts lodge without exploding
And sometimes explode without lodging
This one didn't get flurry or hunting until elysium too
But mirage blades is super fun
First ever Perfect Clear!
yoooo gj
also please dont use legacy on hera lol
i mean its not a bad choice
but like hermes and chaos rarity kinda good
I think it's listed on the bug list
That's massive brain tech
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sadly didn't get zeus legendary and +4 special shot hammer but overall good run
i enjoyed rama even though i died more times then i did with the other hidden aspects
Is this special only lmao
unaruably
unaruably
As long as it helps.
Funnily enough it's probably the most flexible/viable hidden aspect at super high heat
Beowulf feels sad when you limit the build too much
Arthur falls apart unless you're tailesque
Lucifer generally doesn't seem as good as eris/hestia so it isn't up there either
beo and hera fall apart because of ri3
But rama has mongo single/aoe damage on its own
Oh right 1 cast
Just get chaos ammo ez
lmao ez
issue with that is you lose the +50 hp from the mirror so chaos can screw you over
i mean it reverts to default, and on fresh file it's just a singular cast
Tbf they never meant for people to smack every button on the heat bar
But humans are stubborn monkeys so we do it anyway
Why else would they have clone c3 witches
for hesty
but persuasion works on RI1
Savior skulls are the best thing since cursed slash
that's because of contractor tho, ri shouldn't disable contractor upgrades
but regardless that shows that the mirror remembers being on persuasion before being disabled
yet the same isn't true for stygian
aka RI1 gives you your last mirror perk at rank 0 whereas RI3 forces you onto rank 0 infernal
i guess that's fair
fully loaded moment
i mean so does rama lol
what's the issue with rama
needs dashes to beat em4
only one dash
I can do it with 1 dash
yeah needs 2 to beat em4 and even then the rest of the run is pretty painful with only 1
oh right 1 dash pain
Also fastest is 9:16 sec (unmodded) fr now but I'm sure ur not even at 12 min mark
idk
trippy beo moment
got exclusive access before my first hermes and got auto reload, next chamber was eury and she upgraded it to heroic lmao
also don't look at the bottom left corner
oh i just remembered i tunnel visioned into a +1 cast instead of like +64% cast damage but honestly don't regret it because i could fire 1 cast after another without having to wait
that feels like it should always be the right call on stygian lol
quaint little build lol. i like it
had 3 chaos, first 2 gave me +1 cast and 3rd gave me defiance
ngl i should've just rerolled and hoped for cast damage
oh you ran 40
lmao
oh no i already got a sub8 on trippy beo lmao
do you know what i would do for that sort of luck on hera
do you UNDERSTAND
the crimes i would commit
run trippy hera you won't
and you got all this on ap1
yeah just get the boons
yeah you're absolutely right i won't lmao
If only trippy flare inflicted hangover /j
trippy hera is a curse
sure i'll do it this next run, why not. fun little practice
Run ap2 and rngesus will give you the boons
true
he will hand deliver them to you. lmao
The just rng manipulate the anvil for your hammers
it'd be even funnier if you kept resetting the run until you got crush shot c1 and dem atk c2 or c3 for PS
technically better if you can get it going in early tart
although i'm no hera expert, idk if you're supposed to undershoot the arrow so the cast gets the fiery boost or whatever
or undershoot so you dont have to charge as long
oh wait just get snurst c2-4/5 for ps 
i'm just good at beo i'm not smart
no you're right lol i just didn't have a response and sent funny kitty
yeah i'll speedrun ap1 what's the worst that could happen
the worst that would happen would be a sub9 tbh
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yeah i saw that message it was cool
true
Whoops
Lezzz goooo
twin fists for da win πͺ
Twin fists is rlt good but I'm prone to taking too much damage and getting too close with ranged weapons so I'm beat at the stygian blade. Guess that would make fresh file speedruns easier for me
That was a neat combo
Whoo, got my first 32 heat run done with Hestia my beloved
A very close victory too
Dc2 hestia gaming
This ain't technically a victory boast but...I introduce to you...my greatest creation 
Dc2 hestia is very based
Just run ricochet support fire ez
Zeus atk hestia
nice charged volley
thanks
I hail mary anviled a piercing volley into explosive shot and charged volley
good trade
new pfp when
bruh nice build
thanks
oh yeah new pfp time
shoutout to RI giving me like 2 boons
53 is literally free
I have yet to find ME on any of my MEowulf runs 
should've just found it tbh
One run I had curse of vengeance holy shield as well like

Then I got to styx and 0 athena or ares boons
it do be like that
Modded player moment
ce moment
it's a shame it's dem special lmao
Cluster was only thanks to anvil lol
but still clockets eris
It got offered to me mid tart before artemis showed up
Plus the rarity was nice so the damage did alright
fair enough i guess
Save scumming?
Yes π
Yes
2 cast stones dropped to get clockets
Rng manip anvil is based
so true
?
like you shot 2 cast stones the bought anvil?
Attacking/specialling/casting yields the same results
Itβs just input amount before picking up anvil
I think
what counts as input amounts then, moving?
Attacking casting specialing
Not dashing
Not moving
but they yield the same results?
to my knowledgr anyways
Like if you attack once then pick up anvil
Then reset and special once instead of attacking once before anvil
The anvil will be the same
damn niceee
oh makes sense
nice start
i would say dont take explosive but that was anvil lol
I'm swapping to hera lol
oh 
I know because I was counting inputs when I did my rng manipulation for special only sword
no, attack/special doesnt count iirc
i dont think so otherwise eris route would do that instead of cast manips
Itβs been a while since I did my special only run
I was on sword donβt think that changes things though
Lvl 18 lmao
I left elysium at 8 minutes and got a 3sack
cshot came in like 2 chambers before ely endshop
If only I could get the hammers π©
What is that like 15% rd damage
This is a sweet nectar moment
yes, hermes REALLY hates giving out hyper sprint
in modded its guaranteed
big
it also guarantees epic rd which is nice
Obviously
and increases the chance of seeing ichors in wells by 300% i think
i thought you started with hyper delivery in tart on modded
i have officially used every single flare on beowulf
very cool that hermes didn't give me rush delivery
no jolted either
also game offered to replace my flare like 3 times lmao
epic snurst π¦
heck yeah buddy
eury nectar carry
i think i'm gonna go for sub10 all flares
because i think that'll be funny
apparently it's just slicing and passion lmao
yknow i just realized we both like barely play the game lmao
Wdym
idk just compared to a lot of people here lol
You mean my total clears?
My other save has over 200
oh damn what
My last image here that isn't modded had 194 clears or something
I prob hit over 200 tho
So I'm at like maybe 270 clears or something at this point
pretty substantial
195 clears, 272 attempts on my original file so apparently not over 200 but pretty close
1700 damage special
tmw dad darknessed twice and ruined the sub8
also absolutely amazing build
hyper sprint, greater haste, ichor is very fast
jolted also procing PS helps a lot because dashing then smacking into them let the flares get +40% damage instead of 1 of them having to be wasted to proc
Lmao I've played this aspect for so long and so many times that I can get somewhat consistent low times
I'm def not the best at it but I'm pretty decent
Nice
Is it Chaos aspect?
Beowulf
it's nothing super impressive but i got my first clear again, after a two year hiatus! (i haven't played since the game officially launched ;__; also lost all of my save files from before early access)
boons are all over the place don't judge :x
100 clears 
zag aspect sword hermes build
i do be zooming
i wonder what would happen if i stacked the well of charon move speed up on top of this
very appropriate XD
Eris never disappoints
Damn, smaeris
Greater delivery pog
Smaeris gaming
no bad mini bosses, mini boss door display, fountain door display, 4 cores
i think the only popular one i don't use is the hammer one?
Fountain and miniboss display are the best qol ones
Like yeah hammer is nice but that's directly "just get the boons" type stuff so eh
iirc miniboss display isnt leaderboard legal (and therefore isnt popular)
tbh idrc for miniboss display, i used it a few times and it wasnt particularly notable
but if you like it then fair enough
Sometimes you just get forced onto barge of death anyway
Also, I know minibosses are rooms you generally want to take, but I've chosen other rooms before and been forced into the miniboss one anyway so like
Is it better to actually choose a different room first, so that the miniboss takes the spot of a later and longer room?
it depends on a lot of factors, really
it can be worth pushing midboss if its a god you really dont want and youve already seen a few other free rooms
you also have to make sure that you havent already seen other midbosses
like in ely if its midshop vs midboss and then you take shop the midboss door you see there is the last midboss youll ever be offered so you should take it
idk how correct it is to push midboss in other circumstances though
i think sometimes (using aspho as an example) in c19 you can see midboss vs combat
if you take midboss c20 you wont see shop but it you take combat you might go 21 shop 22 midboss
i dont know if thats ever the correct play though
I wish they kept the chamber count showing without having to display boons
download the modpack, thats one of the features
welcome back to another episode of unmodded hades being a trash game for no particular reason
heat players when vanilla hades doesnt have a feature that they want:
What marks a fountain room anyway
speedrunners when they don't have mirage grasp RD c14: 
high heaters when AP2 ares/dem doesn't downgrade their build: 
fun blue lights
Nice
Is the same effect as standing in Arthur's aura
yo it's mike
Congrats on your first 32 heat clear! π
*corngrats π½π
Really annoyed with this run ngl
Build was kinda poppin but chaos curses slowed me down way too much and I got barge + no elysium skips
Played like ass in elysium too
dear lord wtf
lmao
if you press the display boon button as you're entering a room the chamber number will display and stay displayed
lvl 6 artemis ult and a cast build
corngrats π½π
@vivid sedge thoughts on JS3 16?
also nice best streak
π½π

JS3 more like JSfree am I right
Why would you use js3 on a 16 heat run
Gdi using his ||own keepsake|| (for the first time) was funny af 
hey, turns out zag bow is pretty fun
I didn't see any bosses this run, not sure what happened there
This just in, seeing funny numbers makes dopamine go brr
This somehow beat my last pb by 5 seconds
Nevermind, the build is definitely better
Last one didn't have rd or heart rend + pp
Support fire was also surprisingly helpful
Helped me track down random enemy spawns and made up for no tdash in styx to clear vermin
you probably just didnt take them, theyre marked with a skull and 2 red arrows
also thats a damn good build
first try sub10 zag bow featuring twin shot and explosive shot
got heart rend in tart midshop lmao
Art base boost so bad that even with 2 chaos boons it's basically an aphro attack π©
lmfao
Rip no rush delivery
aphro atk don't got the nasty 30% crit rate tho
Mans had pride on and still got heart rend + aphro legendary
Zag bow has native crit chance though
oh yeah i got aphro legendary lmfao
more crit chance means more damage and funny "ting" sound
And crit nem only goes for art attack aohro special because it's supposed to make heart rend easier to get than the other way around
to be fair i wasn't trying to get heart rend it just happened and i went along with it lmao
Eternal chamber aphro legendary to keep everyone charmed 24/7π§
Hax
I hate me because even if you have all the boons and poms you still need so many free rooms to keep up
Side note though, it's kinda interesting that the gaps with modded are a lot lower than unmodded
Part of that is the consistency and fact that there's less time to shave off the more you do, but like
Zag spear having a sub 6 is wild
And nemesis isn't behind the top aspects as much as in unmodded despite its wr having a wacky build
Somehow new base aspect of spear made it a bit more difficult 
lmfao based
will say tho that taking jury summons definitely did not help with that did it
will tell rng about that 
dc1 and js slowed you down a lot, but you're well within the tight deadline 1 range rn
I'll just get rest of heat rewards for other weapons and then prolly come back for a better guan yu lol
that works too, but point more or less stands with DC and JS not being good pacts
Which are those, I'm still not all too familiar with abreviation 
damage control and jury summons
we should probably move to #h1-builds-and-combat btw lol
blaos wtf
bloas what
blaos = blessed chaos
is explsoive mbase damage
idk it gave me big numbers
8
how 8?
Gilgamesh + heroic dashes
Getting aphrodite's legendary in Tartarus is hilariously op
based fds worst shield
i'm just doing an all aspect run
i would never use zag aspect otherwise
? Why
bcuz other aspects are better imo
just get cshot xd lmao
how long was dad fighty
40 seconds, 2 darkness π
He did that annoying one where he insta vanishes after phasing
Dad fight was probably the sloppiest bit along with parts of elysium
I had a really nice tart but didn't get any free rooms besides midshop
Asphodel was alright but elysium and dad were definitely sloppy
Unfortunately the recording software I just downloaded only has a 10 minute limit without having to pay so
Oh yeah styx was insane
I got 2 stones from there + rd
Hermes was on a miniboss gate
also gg youre kinda cracked
use obs
Will do
Thanks a bunch ^^
oh i meant hades fight with zeus boons lmao
have you considered OBS studio
I just got it suggested to me a little below that, I'll get it sometime
how much health?
forgot, i think 175 or 200
200 isn't all that tanky
I've accidentally gotten 250 during speedruns
350 hp godma
Yes
i thought it was slow in compare to the zag one , isnt 15+ damage each hit is better than the slow charged onme?
The casts are op
Tier lists aren't going to be 100% accurate in every situation but like
Arthur is a lot higher for low heat but like every weapon is better at low heat
damn i thought arthur was good it was my first sword win
In the sense that you won't die for a while it is
Should probably move to #h1-discussion though
ok
Beat the game for the first time. Huge deal for me because I think myself a terrible gamer and when I started playing Hades I thought Iβd never get past Meg 
(also I love that thereβs a victory boasting room
)
What is going on with that rulk
He cheers for me when Iβm playing. And laughs at me when I die
Why?
Why not?
corngrats! π½π
enjoy greece while you can
Short but sweet
congrats now do it 100 more times
I usually donβt like game spoilers, but Iβm actually glad I got a bunch of Hades spoilers. Otherwise some surprises would be very disappointing
get ready for the greece boss fight
Oh? Which do you mean-
The narrator finally reveals himself and oneshots Zag π§
Like having to kill Hades twice
Ah
βTis good gam
Bow pb π³
Gamer
Where ddash?
Idk man
i hate you
bro picks up hera and immediately beats my best time by a full minute+
i still fail to see how this is better than zag spear
Neither
first try sub10 eris, i really should've used arty special because i forgot smair and sigil is incompatible but oh well i'm not touching rail again
Idk man as
also featuring clockets
true
fists, spear, and sword next for sub10 and not looking forward to it
150% attack and cast damage sucks
Idk man as
oh yeah i got jolted from styx and bought a 300 pom for it right before i entered dad fight i literally never saw zeus except for erebus and trials
Yeah but you play heat and I've mostly been speedrunning
Heart rend nem will make it easy, so will flurry achilles
wont change the fact that i dislike those weapons lmao
i changed it tho lol i'm doing speed now
grr
Ok but I've been doing it for a few weeks and you've had like 4 days
Either way if it helps you I was sloppy af and could've gone like 20 seconds faster from hades fight alone
that makes me feel worse LMAO
oh well i'm gettin better i guess
got smacked in the face by the full spin combo and triggered dd too
Dw it wasn't skill
that's only a 3s loss
It was literally the build + skips
Not all together it isn't
Phase 1 dad fight is actually hell
I legitimately enjoy phase 3 more than non em phase 1
phase 1 is so easy you just ignore literally every single summon. #h1-discussion
someone with a faster zag spear pb than achilles
I forget what zag spear even does
increased special range, speed, and damage
by 25% each
This all sounds like budget guan yu
yeah
zpsear + elauncher + cskewer >>> gy + cskewer thanks to those buffs
but yeah requiring two hammers is just too spicy compared to just one
hmmmmmmm
hey it's true
no its not lmao
elaucher doesnt pierce
so it has worse aoe
and the 25% from zag spear is additive
but that's a small price to pay for being much snappier and no health penalty
for some reason
yeah idk about that one
um being 2x weaker is a pretty stiff penalty
actually killing things is a pretty good upside
having a bit better aoe doesn't come close to the improvements zspear would offer with both hammers
ill await your special only zag spear sub 6
I'm not saying zspear is better than gy
its not a bit better its like way way better
I'm just saying zspear plus both hammers becomes better than gy plus one hammer
that's all
also gy gets breaching skewer
well your vacuum sucks
zspear with elauncher cskewer vs gy with cskewer
wait
obv gy >>> because getting one hammer far eclipses requiring two
i take gy cskewer
that's highkey dumb
well idk think what you want
if you could start the game with either zspear would be 100x better
that's just a fact
idk
I mean it just is
im not convinced
gy's only redeeming qualities would be spinheal and better special aoe
zspear would have 2x survivability and a much snappier special
it's honestly not even close, gy's health penalty is super harsh
yeah the aoe is absolutely ridiculous
it's ultimately a way better trade for forcing a superior elauncher by default but it's still there
its so absurdly good that i think it just outclasses zag spear
but that's because your brain is thinking of zspear without both hammers which is pretty trash
no
with both hammers in play the special becomes really really good
thats not what im thinking
im thinking id prefer the aoe over the damage and survivability
yes
its pretty good
but i honestly prefer gy
well think what you want to think
hmmmm
ok well ill do zag spear after this gy run im currently on
accidently bought snack instead of aphro boon 
big damage

Big damage
Sub 10 gaming
that looks fun
lmao
jesus christ wtf
Simply run achilles
Only had 1 dd when facing dad, this run ended up being harder than expected
