h1-high-heat-strategies

[honest kernel]

So what should I choose instead of serrated

[solar maple]

doesn't matter too much

[jaunty falcon]

This

[undone tartan]

Yeah the second hammer isn’t a priority

At all

[honest kernel]

So if I get flurry I can just skip second hammer

[solar maple]

yeah for sure

if the other option is at all useful I would take it

[honest kernel]

Thanks for the tips guys

[undone tartan]

Good luck!

Remember to look for a cast as well

They help for bosses

[undone tartan]

Just did an RI4 AP2 run. Was pretty fun actually

Zeus shield, got natural charged shot

[weak gyro]

My god, five minutes is so difficult to use with any other heat modifier

Tartarus and Elysium are just crazy.

[flat flicker]

Do a few 5 min deadline runs with like, 12 heat to get a feel for it

[weak gyro]

I was doing 5 minutes at 20 heat just fine for the most part

But Jury Summons seems not a viable option

[hardy garden]

yeah dont

replied to the wrong part

[hardy garden]

btw you can do td3 32 heat boonless and get a 5 sack while youre at it

[flat flicker]

There it is - that’s your problem

[solar maple]

yeah a few of the pacts can really slow you down. Mostly jury summons, calisthenics program, and damage control

[hardy garden]

meanwhile fo2 speed ya up

though you can be fine with just fo1 for 32 heat

[solar maple]

since TD is worth so much and those pacts also make the game harder in addition to slowing you down, we usually load up on TD and only take the slow pacts if we need to

[weak gyro]

I really just don't like tight deadline at 5 minutes. I think I'd rather literally everything else. It's so limiting.

[flat flicker]

You need to practice dedicated td3 runs and also take free rooms if you’re feeling time pressure (namely chaos) but yeah 9 to 7 was easy 7 to 5 is sweat

But jury summons takes a while, if you had a narrow loss to Theseus on time switch jury summons for something else and you’re all set

[bronze rapids]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/prxk95/unofficial_random_loadout_challenge_8_shot_from/
weekly randomized runs, now with 24 and 32 heat

[glacial gorge]

So is 40 heat Guan yu just running Aphro special and hoping for Charged skewer?

And athena for support

[flat flicker]

more or less

[hardy garden]

and hope you get a random zeus for smouldering air

[honest kernel]

does this look ok for 32 heat demeter fists? first time trying, going for merciful end

https://gyazo.com/7b372ec1d5e04791af63f4c1a59c74e8

[hardy garden]

you dont want cp and jury summons

id replace them for td3 and another lvl in hard labor

[honest kernel]

im just a little worried i wont make td3 thats all

but ill change em

[hardy garden]

yeah it just comes down to practice but once you get used to the timer itll be way easier

[next acorn]

I would put the CP, JS, and CF into more BP and HL

If your not comfortable with TD3

[honest kernel]

im getting so unlucky with merciful end its not funny

[hardy garden]

i like how i keep managing to 5 sack on specifically my high heat runs

[hardy garden]

usually best to get a yarn or eurydice then spend your rerolls for getting duos with gods pride

uh also you know that you need ares/athena on both special and attack for merciful end right

[honest kernel]

yeah ive had divine dash + flourish and ares attack since halfway asphodel

had 6 chances for merciful since

[hardy garden]

well thats some rather unfortunate rng

[honest kernel]

everything else is going ok though

died to tiny vermin

if i ever get him on a 32 heat run im just gonna die

i cant dodge his attacks ever

[hardy garden]

reject demeter. embrace gilgadash

https://imgur.com/a/eYxisCR

[unique zephyr]

Try not using convenience fee so you can get more boons to find ME with

[honest kernel]

theres nothing else id rather take

im feeling good about this run

https://gyazo.com/4a3bb3edc941629e88233a0d556842ad

into styx i go

i am not taking any boss rooms LMAO

[hardy garden]

until 5 sack

[unique zephyr]

I believe in you!

[honest kernel]

pls....

[hardy garden]

what its how the game works

[unique zephyr]

Not even max hard labor?

[honest kernel]

max hard labor makes the game twice as hard so idk

[hardy garden]

when all your 5 sacks are from 32+ heat

[honest kernel]

i got really unlucky to not get merciful end last run

and i got it this run

so i dont think its too much of a problem

[unique zephyr]

Ah ok, I just remember comparing my CF2 to CF0 builds lol

[hardy garden]

tbh with max hl youre taking 25% more dmg compared to 60%

[hardy garden]

wait why ya using collar instead of acorn

[honest kernel]

bohfsnmhgibb

because theseus and asteries are easy as, i take a lot more dmg in normal elysium rooms to bull****

i take acorn in styx though obviously

[mossy zinc]

Tiny Vermin has three moves: summon, dig, charge. It's really not too difficult to avoid the attacks if you're looking for it and not overextending with attacks and dash-strikes.

[honest kernel]

it is when you can barely see what he's doing because he's so small

[hardy garden]

i just dodge when i feel like he wants to hit me

[mossy zinc]

He's no bigger on my screen. You should watch your videos of the fight if you have any. M very sure you're overextending all the time if you keep losing to him.

[honest kernel]

it's hard to stay in 1 spot looking at his movements when youre on td3 and he's spawning ads

idk id rather vs hades/theseus than that little rat lol

@hardy garden got a 3 sack

[hardy garden]

smh

[honest kernel]

time for hades

see if i can do 32 heat 2nd go

last highest was 16 with zag bow lmao

[mossy zinc]

You don't need to stay in one spot, but you don't need to dash constantly. And you can circle the arena to keep the adds far away from you, and reduce their numbers when there's an opportunity.

[honest kernel]

i'd agree if i was using bow, rail, spear, but with fists it's hard not to just sit on him, you do so little damage if you don't constant aa

also not saying you're wrong i just reaaaaally don't like the little rat

[hardy garden]

Best to get a feel for when enemies will attack you and dodge preemptively. Usually im not waiting to see enemies beginning their wind up since i wont react fast enough half the time with like fo2.

also use gilgadash

[mossy zinc]

Being close to him doesn't change that you need to have your dashes off cooldown when you need them and shouldn't overextend.

Unless your DPS is high enough that it doesn't matter.

[honest kernel]

giewopsgjmpdsoigmpgghs

he had 20% left

[mossy zinc]

Also shouldn't be so eager to get close that you dash-strike right into him when he digs out of the ground and right into his AOE attack.

[honest kernel]

welp thats enough 32 for today

[hardy garden]

rip

[honest kernel]

i think thats a good effort though

just need to not be bad and get hit by a laser next time

[mossy zinc]

The vast majority of hits when you watch other people play are entirely predictable by overextending with dashes and being caught off cooldown or bad positioning, like dashing out in the open when there are Chariots about to charge.

Getting him down to 20% is pretty good, yeah.

[honest kernel]

i thought i had it

but HL makes him hit very hard

[mossy zinc]

It does.

[honest kernel]

if i dodged 1 of the hits i woulda cleared

feels bad

[hardy garden]

gilgadash

[honest kernel]

gilgano

i think merciful end fists is my best chance at clearing

[mossy zinc]

It's just practice and experience. You'll get him next time. And you'll be calmer the more often you get to him on 32.

[honest kernel]

i also didnt get any extra dashes from hermes that run

that woulda been nice

[honest kernel]

yeah it's not as bad as i thought it would be

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, Greatest Reflex solves a lot of problems.

[honest kernel]

the only things that are weird are using stubborn defiance to heal bc of LC4

and underworld customs

TD3 isnt bad at all, with fists at least

[mossy zinc]

I think I've done a lot more runs with LC4 SD than without at this point.

[hardy garden]

wait have you killed yourself with lava without an sd yet

[mossy zinc]

You get used to it.

[honest kernel]

SD?

[hardy garden]

stubborn defiance

[honest kernel]

o

[honest kernel]

i can see this happening to me now

[mossy zinc]

And DD is Death Defiance.

It's happened to all of us lol.

[honest kernel]

yeah before now ive never used stubborn

kind of needed at LC3/4 though

unless you're a top .1% player

[mossy zinc]

Just do LC4 mirrorless.

[honest kernel]

im good

[mossy zinc]

Defiances are overrated.

With Guan Yu for healing.

[honest kernel]

pls no guan yu

[hardy garden]

just do boonless hestia

[mossy zinc]

And Tempest Strike to knock enemies out of your spin.

[honest kernel]

i did this with achilles spear

rush into them, hit them once/twice and theyre across the room

making use of dmg buff

[hardy garden]

boonless hestia = easy obols aka easy kisses of styx

[honest kernel]

what about underworld customs

[mossy zinc]

But did you do it with Guan Yu to knock them out of the spin that you need to hit them with in order to heal?

[honest kernel]

nope only used guan yu once and hated it

though i think i could make a special build work

[hardy garden]

guan yu when charged skewer doesnt want to appear is fun

[mossy zinc]

I should make a new save for 32 Guan Yu mirrorless Lv.1 sometime.

[hardy garden]

that sounds fun

[mossy zinc]

I think so.

[hardy garden]

13 base hp

[mossy zinc]

All you need if you never get hit.

[hardy garden]

easy with one dash

[mossy zinc]

Yeah.

[shy plinth]

If you haven't been playing with UC it's just a question of getting used to it, probs the easiest 2 heat in the game with practice

1. Think about what you're selling in Tartarus, 2. Take hermes boons in Asphodel, 3. Save rolls for purging pools

It ends up focusing your poms quite often

[mossy zinc]

You think about what you're selling?

[shy plinth]

Yeah I just sell whatever Aphrodite boon pops up

https://tenor.com/bepfz.gif

[hardy garden]

free heat with shackle hestia 👍

[mossy zinc]

I've blocked people for less.

[shy plinth]

Honestly that's plausible

[mossy zinc]

Betraying Lady Aphrodite like that.

You should apologize to her for your for your "joke".

[shy plinth]

She knows

[mossy zinc]

She'll hear about this.

[honest kernel]

aphrodite is a mid

[waxen relic]

Astaos should have a save i think.

[mossy zinc]

Good for him.

[waxen relic]

I mean i dunno how much fun you have creating saves.

[mossy zinc]

I don't use other people's saves.

Maybe I'll do it on my PS5 version.

[waxen relic]

Oh, sure. Have fun then, when you get around to do it.

[amber cairn]

Aphrodites boons surrounding your attacks are better then athenas

[undone tartan]

What

[vital grove]

That seems like a very inaccurate generalization

Athena is 2/3rds of a good Merciful End

[mossy zinc]

They are better.

[next wyvern]

tbh i never relying on athena much so i usually skip her chambers for other boons i kinda wanted more but well i never do beyond 32 heat yet

[gaunt fiber]

What have you summoned me for?

[bronze rapids]

a maxed save file but Lv 1 Guan Yu

[vital grove]

I wouldn't be surprised if Astaos had every iteration of Guan Yu on a separate save

[gaunt fiber]

Lmao, idk if it would serve a purpose

I was given lv 1 Guan Yu because Pseudo thought about a call only run

[waxen relic]

If I summoned you, I'd tag you.
It turned out to be unneeded.

[gaunt fiber]

I am summoned

[waxen relic]

Dang how do I unsummon.

[hallow garnet]

ping yourself

[undone tartan]

Really? Athena is especially good at high heat because she can give your extra DDs with stubborn defiance

[undone tartan]

I almost always take Owl Pendant into Asphodel at 32 heat and up because Athena is so strong

[honest kernel]

im stronger

[undone tartan]

[gaunt fiber]

Lmao this emote

[forest basalt]

Bro the HL maxed EM Theseus fight is so hard. I go in with like 30hp and a defiance, and their hits do like 40-60 damage. This time I died because I was backed into a corner, bombs incoming on my left, theseus on my right, and spinning Asterius from the center of the arena

What am I supposed to do?

[quartz mantle]

Try dashing out and using a call to extend your iframes

if you're on a shield block and bullrush out

but the main answer is to not get in that position in the first place

[forest basalt]

What’s the positional strat

[quartz mantle]

Just don't back yourself into a corner, try hugging pillars and making sure you have an out, staying clear of Theseus bombs in general helps

[forest basalt]

Hm alright

[quartz mantle]

I tend to just ignore Theseus until Bull man is down, that lets me avoid the bombs pretty consistently

Unless I'm short on time and need to zoom through the fight

[shy plinth]

I'd def watch vods if you haven't done Em3 before

Or the full HL variant rather

Should be able to empty dash out of almost any scenario

[forest basalt]

How do you empty dash

[shy plinth]

Dash and don't press attack

"Empty" as in it's not a dash strike

[forest basalt]

Oh

[shy plinth]

Can often become muscle memory to constantly jam dash and attack together but dashing without an attack will nearly double your i frames

[forest basalt]

I forgot to use my summon too

Can you dash through Theseus if he’s coming at you

doing his rockets

[shy plinth]

Yes

You can dash through basically anything

[forest basalt]

I just didn’t know if his hitbox was small enough to dash through

[shy plinth]

I def recommend watching some vods of high heat runs in here, you'll def learn some techniques if you haven't done that already

While you are dashing without attacking you can get through just about anything

[forest basalt]

If say 1 dash gets you halfway through an enemy, can you double dash through them without getting hurt?

[eternal hare]

yes

[forest basalt]

Ok cool

[hardy garden]

when tryna do 40 heat boonless hestia and wells dont wanna sell death defiances

[honest kernel]

unsellable boons 💀

[hardy garden]

ya usually need core boon to get othose anyways

5 sacks though

well i guess styx boons count as unsellable

[undone tartan]

I suggest getting into a habit of hitting both with your Meg at the start of every fight. 5000 damage is a lot and you don’t want to miss that opportunity

[undone tartan]

40 heat boonless? Damn that’s actually a kinda crazy challenge

[hardy garden]

well shackle hestia is kinda op

[undone tartan]

Still though

[hardy garden]

if i had the dd's i mightve been able to kill dad

bruh this chariot just teleported into my face

[undone tartan]

Speeder FO2 Louts literally teleport

[hardy garden]

i only have bp1 for multiple reasons

[undone tartan]

At 40 heat?

[hardy garden]

ap 2 is free

[undone tartan]

Oh true

But still

[hardy garden]

lol i actually have js1 and cp1 still get to champions in less than 10 minutes

literally only thing thats a problem other than dad is champions fight

[undone tartan]

EM3?

[hardy garden]

yep

[undone tartan]

You should try BP2 instead

[hardy garden]

28 health left. somehow didnt lose a dd

nah its fine. i can buy dds back

[undone tartan]

Wait you’re using DDs?

[hardy garden]

well unless charon hates me

[undone tartan]

Why not LC4 SD?

[hardy garden]

kiss of styx are cheap af

i have lc2 though

[undone tartan]

Mmm

That’s questionable

Extremely

[hardy garden]

only place i lose dd's is champs and dad

so

[undone tartan]

But it’s your choice

[hardy garden]

also im bad at dad fight

[undone tartan]

What’s your heat PB?

[hardy garden]

uh 40

[undone tartan]

If you’re doing 40 heat without stubborn defiance and almost winning, you’re definitely good enough for at least 45

If not 50

boonless

[hardy garden]

well hestia has enough dps to get me to styx in less than 11 minutes

[undone tartan]

I don’t mean 50 boonless, I mean if you can do that well boonless without SD

At 40 heat?

Bro

That’s impressive

[hardy garden]

like as long as i have one dd going into dad its better than sd

well unless i get patty

[undone tartan]

Yeah nah I’m not even saying you’re wrong or anything at this point

It genuinely just sounds like you’re good at the game

[hardy garden]

kk

[undone tartan]

You should try higher heat when you’re done with this challenge

If you want to

Because I often struggle at lot with normal rooms at 40 heat. Enough that I definitely couldn’t do it without stubborn defiance

So if you’re able to deal with those normal rooms easily enough to not really lose DDs, that’s actually very impressive

[hardy garden]

ngl though this is way easier than 32 heat guan yu

[undone tartan]

42 heat Guan Yu was easy all I needed was Smoldering Air + Athena’s Aid + Second Wind

[shy plinth]

That does solve a lot of problems

[undone tartan]

All it took was borderline invincibility

[upper stirrup]

@hardy garden what do you typically run on hestia?

[undone tartan]

That literally made it easier than my 32 heat Guan Yu run

My 32 heat Guan Yu was so so close. I was at 13 HP

#h1-victory-boasting message

[unborn fjord]

What heats do you guys recommend switching to SD? So far trying 32 heat runs for skelly doing champions without DD seems impossible on EM3, but I lose so many in early tartarus rooms

[hardy garden]

well for non boonless id do artemis on attack and dash and try to get chaos lunge too. get marked and heart rend and lots of stuff gets oneshot

[undone tartan]

At 32 I advise SD LC4

[unborn fjord]

At LC4 your only healing is centaurs, correct?

[hallow garnet]

And stubborn defiance

[undone tartan]

Stubborn is your main source of healing

[hardy garden]

since im on shackle thats also another reason why im using dds with hestia

if you get athena boons and touch of styx from patty or wells then sd = big heals

[unborn fjord]

Alright, thanks! Imma go give 32 heat another try

[upper stirrup]

@hardy garden 👍

[hardy garden]

and no two sack

[undone tartan]

Also, with Stubborn Defiance, always take Patroclus and always take Touch of Styx Dark. ToSD is better than any boon tbh

[shy plinth]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/668865849079103539/884878890739335178/unknown.png

This is the progression I'd recommend in general

[hardy garden]

styx takes so long with shackle

if its not a three sack i literally lose

[flat flicker]

Hazard bomb w shackle lol

[hardy garden]

well unless i bend the rules

[hardy garden]

it does like 600 damage. its amazing

[unborn fjord]

thanks!

[flat flicker]

based

[hardy garden]

tiny vermin rip

[undone tartan]

[unborn fjord]

Just one more thing, would you recommend Fated Persuasion or Fated Authority for mirror?

[undone tartan]

Persuasion

[hardy garden]

persuasion generally

[undone tartan]

Always persuasion

[hardy garden]

unless its boonless hestia

but authority didnt stop me from getting a 4 sack

[undone tartan]

Also, are you using Dark Foresight?

[unborn fjord]

yes

[undone tartan]

Because you definitely should be

Ok sick

[shy plinth]

Probs worth just posting the mirror to be sure

But df is the important one

[unborn fjord]

why would I take rare boons over more boons/poms/hearts/hammer?

[undone tartan]

Very true

[unborn fjord]

unfortunately I can't post the mirror, I'm not on pc and dont know how (if you can) to link switch to disc

[undone tartan]

Yeah DF is insane also. It says +20% but it’s really 40%

[hardy garden]

i got athena attack which is a nerf to my damage

so ill pretend this is boonless

[unborn fjord]

oh, and I took legacy for chaos-dio, tell me if thats blatantly wrong

[flat flicker]

i take pictures of my tv lol

[undone tartan]

Legacy is definitely not blatantly wrong. It’s good if you want multiple duos of legendaries

[shy plinth]

I usually do pride but it's not a huge deal either way

[undone tartan]

But I prefer Pride

Especially because I like my purple Hermes boons

Which kinda don’t show up with legacy

Epic Greatest Reflex has won me many many runs

[flat flicker]

Take legacy if your build depends on a duo pride otherwise

[unborn fjord]

For the higher heats I usually use chaos because it's one of the most solid aspects just from my opinion, and I love dio-ares-aphro duo synergy.

[flat flicker]

Rarity is usually compensated for by the extra poms from foresight

[shy plinth]

Chaos the shield?

[unborn fjord]

chaos shield yes

[shy plinth]

Hrm interesting

[hardy garden]

......

[undone tartan]

Hangover chaos huh? Interesting

[flat flicker]

Or just check your seeds

[shy plinth]

It's usually considered one of the slower weapons

[wintry berry]

chaos the weapon or chaos the aspect ?

[hardy garden]

i casted while hugging dad

and died

im smort

[shy plinth]

But if it works for you that's cool

[undone tartan]

I assume the aspect

[undone tartan]

Works fine for 32 heat though

[hardy garden]

if i didnt run into vermin it wouldve worked

[undone tartan]

Especially with Charged Shot

[unborn fjord]

For speed I just use Zeus-Eris plus Artemis cluster rockers

but the shield's safety is what makes me prefer it for 16+

[undone tartan]

Yeah shield is the best weapon imo

I just did my fourth 45 heat with Zeus shield

Very strong aspect

[unborn fjord]

Zeus shield always felt underwhelming to me, what build do you normally use with it?

[undone tartan]

Zeus special

[flat flicker]

Zeus special go brr

[undone tartan]

Jolted

Maybe some heartbreak strike

Maybe some divine dash

[flat flicker]

🌩️

[unborn fjord]

hmmm it might just be that I haven't leveled it up enough.

[undone tartan]

Maybe Smoldering Air

Ideally charged shot

[hardy garden]

bruh moment https://imgur.com/a/7dK0wLy

[jaunty falcon]

You can also go merciful end

[undone tartan]

Or Explosive Return

[flat flicker]

Doesn’t matter on Zeus shield@w Zeus special

Or barely matters rather

[hardy garden]

also thanks for giving me athena attack styx

[flat flicker]

The level

[hardy garden]

and vermin

[undone tartan]

Yeah but that’s not good for high heat is it? Well, not as good as a more simple build

also not as fun imo

[jaunty falcon]

Divine dash is safe

Both are good

[unborn fjord]

Hangover chaos is insanely strong imo, everything dies off-screen and with the right duos and synergy it doesnt flop on bosses either

[undone tartan]

I’ve been there

[undone tartan]

Yeah it’s just slow

[undone tartan]

Well I get divine dash on my normal Zeus shield builds

[wintry berry]

chaos shield is a fun tier shield imo

[flat flicker]

Zeus shield with scintillating feast

[unborn fjord]

hammer gave me ONLY the upgrades I begged not to get

[flat flicker]

Pretty based

[hardy garden]

okay so js1 plus cp1 for styx is bad imma just go back to lc4

[undone tartan]

I used to like Chaos shield but for my 40 heat run I was having trouble so I just forced a charged shot build and ignored special

[undone tartan]

What upgrades?

[unborn fjord]

dont know exact names, but the dash-special hammer, the power rush hammer, and fast charge. I took fast charge

[undone tartan]

Yeah Sudden Rush is super good

Probably the 3rd best hammer for the aspect

[flat flicker]

sudden rush is probably the best shield hammer there is lol

[undone tartan]

Arguably second best

[undone tartan]

Charged shot is better

For sure charged shot is better

[unborn fjord]

I second this

[flat flicker]

one day i'll get the hang of it

i love it on zeus

[undone tartan]

But yeah sudden rush is super good

[flat flicker]

beo, would take sudden over charge shot

[undone tartan]

Why would you pray not to get sudden rush?

[undone tartan]

I would never

Charged shot Beo is so good

[wintry berry]

depends

[undone tartan]

Also it’s so fast

[unborn fjord]

those speed louts go zoooom

[undone tartan]

FO2 speeder louts teleport

[flat flicker]

i havent played it enough and when i release it and get smacked it feels bad man

i like chaining together beo rushes

but idk, ill mess around w it

i know it can be good, just feels like it changes the playstyle for me too much

but im old

[unborn fjord]

beo is fun, especially with dio cast and scintillating feast. still geting used to it tho

crap I missclicked and now i fight charon

oh no

[undone tartan]

Dio cast?

Do you do Stygian soul?

Trippy flare is a high-roll build

[flat flicker]

Usually infernal

Eh can’t hurt to try

[undone tartan]

On Trippy Flare? Nah Stygian is definitely optimal for that

[flat flicker]

Oh I usually open Poseidon

[unborn fjord]

for beo I do infernal, pray to our lord and saviour Primordial Chaos to give me casts, and roll like a casino addict

[undone tartan]

You just need extra bloodstones from chaos

[flat flicker]

For beo

Got me to 36 thus far but I’ll give dio a shot

[undone tartan]

For Beo it’s Stygian for trippy flare, infernal for everything else

I don’t really advise trippy flare tbh

It’s not bad for sure

But it demands better RNG

[flat flicker]

Word

[undone tartan]

Trippy Flare poms do be pretty broken though

[flat flicker]

Oh right that’s why

[undone tartan]

With Mirage you can literally 1-shot boss phases

[unborn fjord]

me when charon fight with 100 hp

[flat flicker]

Damn

So Poseidon more reliable mirage

But trippy charge shot sounds pretty fun

[unborn fjord]

rocket bomb first hammer ae?

[hardy garden]

5 sack

i swear this game gives more 4 and 5 sacks at higher heat

[hallow garnet]

Christ

[mossy zinc]

That's cool. You get to play the game more.

[undone tartan]

Best build for 45 heat fists? Still Demeter with Zeus and Jolted?

[mossy zinc]

start, obviously.

[undone tartan]

I doubt it

[mossy zinc]

But I'd get better results with start than you'd get without it, so you have to believe me.

[undone tartan]

I definitely believe that much

[mossy zinc]

Divine Strike is tried and true.

[quartz mantle]

It’s probably Athena start yea

Roll with whatever on attack

[undone tartan]

I’m worried the DPS would be really bad if I did Divine Strike

[quartz mantle]

I don’t think it’ll be that bad

You still have the big special

[mossy zinc]

You can just take Divine Dash if the Attack is not epic.

[undone tartan]

That’s true

[hardy garden]

reee 460 health going into champions

watch as i lose all of it

[ripe ermine]

Drunken chaos is fast enough. Here’s a 32-Heat run with 5 mins left on the TD3 clock https://m.imgur.com/a/bxaWnvw

[undone tartan]

Well ok…. But also are you maybe just cracked at the game?

[hardy garden]

only lost like 100. thank you patty for the jerky

[ripe ermine]

People sleep on Dio I just like to rep for the guy

[hardy garden]

ofc charon aint selling centaur hearts

tiny vermi.

every time

whats the vermin spawn chance supposed to be anyways

[unborn fjord]

I got a 5-sack with vermin on TD3 and lost to the timer, pain.

[mossy zinc]

Yeah, Drunken Flourish Chaos Aspect carried by Smoldering Air and Charged Shot DPS isn't too bad.

Oh and Explosive Return.

[hardy garden]

its beautiful

2 sack

going into dad with full hp and 3 dd's

salvation

literally the sloppiest dad fight to ever exist

540 health and 3 dd's = win

[ripe ermine]

I mean… that was a good run

[unborn fjord]

is explosive return affected by any damage modifiers like pressure points?

[mossy zinc]

Yeah.

Actually no not Pressure Points.

[ripe ermine]

Yeah the weird thing is it can’t crit

[mossy zinc]

Explosive Return can't crit.

But anything else, yes.

[ripe ermine]

But otherwise special damage boosts affect it

[unborn fjord]

also, do you prefer doom or dio on special for chaos shield?

[ripe ermine]

Dio obvs really any of the flat damage adds can do some work

Or high roll with Tempest Flourish and go for Sea Storm

[unborn fjord]

memeing with lucifer sea storm is fun... until the kb starts to not push hard enough

[hardy garden]

wait my 40 heat boonless hestia run also was my rail speed run pb

[unborn fjord]

lmao

[honest kernel]

@hardy garden 3rd 32 heat attempt

he had 10% health left

i got super unlucky again and didnt get merciful end lol

didnt even expect to make it to hades

[hardy garden]

rip

[honest kernel]

i got the artemis athena duo

even though i had 1 artemis boon after styx

i had 5 athena 3 ares

zzz

[honest kernel]

going into elysium for attempt 4, surely i clear this time as long as i get merciful end

https://gyazo.com/320cca4ee2b1c7bbf24ed71594e90fa9

[honest kernel]

last chance for merciful end and i get this crap

https://gyazo.com/bd0566a235190762d56e77769ea3c878

i dont really know how this run worked...

https://gyazo.com/b7b39a39b4ad1797c97b8bfc7528c2bd

i lost my 1 and only DD in tartarus normal dungeons lmao

got unlucky with BP2

didnt get merciful end or impending doom

but still managed to get to hades with basically full hp and 3 dd

and then only got hit once

i guess the +3 dashes helps a lot

also new best time pog

[forest basalt]

What’s a good Rama build for 32 heat? I’ve been doing Zeus on special, Artemis/Poseidon attack, and divine dash but I keep dying on Theseus. I did get 3/4 through the fight but

Any tips/ideas?

[honest kernel]

with zeus special probably aphro attack id guess

or artemis attack aphro special with heart rend and, if you can get it, smoldering

[forest basalt]

Zeus & aphro give a good duo or something?

Curious on why aphro attack

[honest kernel]

yeah smoldering air, can only fill god gauge up to 25% but charges to 25% every 5 seconds

aphro on attack because it does the most damage out of all of them

more consistent than artemis attack, though artemis is fun for big numbers

[forest basalt]

Oh ok cool, thank you

[gaunt fiber]

Any strong attack works. On special, the most powerful option is Dionysus (damage wise). Ares, Zeus, Athena are also good options.
You don't need to go for smoldering air, especially with Rama. You need to practice your bossing and find the right openings for a (power)shot. SA won't help you understanding that

[forest basalt]

Yeah my Theseus fight skills are improving each run, maybe I’ll go aphro shot Dio special next run

[vital grove]

I love smoldering Poseidon when it happens

[placid portal]

Uhm

Hi?

16 heat pwease owo

[shy plinth]

#h1-high-heat-strategies message

This is the progression I usually recommend, but there's opportunity to be flexible. Check the pins for other guides

[placid portal]

Alright thanks

[shy plinth]

For the mirror, you really want to make sure you're going with Family Favorite, Dark Foresight, and Fated Persuasion

There are other relevant options but those are the most commonly asked about

[placid portal]

Is fo1 instead of em3 a good idea?

I did em3 without dd's on my first try but I just died to asterius(without theseus) while having all 3 dd's

[left prism]

may take some attempts to learn the timings but is not a wrong choice

[placid portal]

Something in my brain decided to stop working

[placid portal]

I don't have a maxed mirror is that a problem?

[mossy zinc]

Best to make your own experiences.

Anything is very doable at 16, so don't feel like you "should" take this or that.

[placid portal]

Btw what exactly is family favorite doing the German description is a bit confusing imo

[hallow garnet]

As most of you are probably aware, Family Favorite is one of the new perks available through the Mirror of Night, giving you +6% damage for each boon that you have from a different God (excluding Chaos). Replacing Privileged Status, if you opt to use it.

ah 2.5%

My bad

[placid portal]

So you can have up to 10%

?

[shy plinth]

I think it's 5% per god now?

[hallow garnet]

it is?

[mossy zinc]

Umm.. it's +5%, yeah.

[hallow garnet]

wiki needs update them

Then

[placid portal]

It says 2.5 but it's not maxed

[shy plinth]

The wiki is unreliable

[gaunt fiber]

We get 25 thanks to Hermes and a 4 gods pool

[shy plinth]

Every time you get a new god, you get 5% bonus damage to everything

Includes hermes

[placid portal]

Hermes doesn't count?

[hallow garnet]

Hermes does count

Chaos doesn’t

[gaunt fiber]

It does

[shy plinth]

So let's say you start with aphrodite, that's +5% right away

Then you get Zeus 4 rooms later, that's +10%

After your 4th you'll have +20% and with hermes it'll be +25%

[placid portal]

No

Wait

[mossy zinc]

Family Favorite vs Privileged Status doesn't matter that much anyway.

[placid portal]

Thats not what I meant

Does Hermes count as a God for the pool?

[mossy zinc]

But Family Favorite is more consistent.

[hallow garnet]

nah

[placid portal]

-->can you have 4 or 5 gods

[shy plinth]

Hermes counts

[hallow garnet]

they mean can you get locked out of hermes in your god pool

[gaunt fiber]

Hermes is not bound by the god limit

[shy plinth]

Oh, yeah

[gaunt fiber]

He's special

[hallow garnet]

hermes is so based

man doesn’t care if you skip over his dialogue for speed

[placid portal]

Exactly

[placid portal]

His keepsake alone shows that he's just built different

[mossy zinc]

If you intend to get into high heat eventually, I'd recommend you turn on EM2 FO2 and TD3 and don't turn them off. It's good practice.

[flat flicker]

P stats drives me nuts

It’s an extra thing my brain cells need to do

[placid portal]

I'm fine with 16heat for now:3

My pb so far is 9

But I want the skelly statue

[mossy zinc]

What aspect do you want to use?

[placid portal]

Hidden malphon aspect

I could change it tho

It's just for a task

[shy plinth]

https://tenor.com/bdfIa.gif

THE CLAW

If you're going gilga you can easily get there with merciful end

[placid portal]

I'd use demeter or nemesis

[placid portal]

With whot?

[shy plinth]

Hidden fists

[placid portal]

Merciful end?

[shy plinth]

Oh wait do you not know merciful end

Have you looked at all the duos in the codex

[placid portal]

Yes

[placid portal]

Uh

Nope:3

[shy plinth]

You should go through the codex some time

It tells you what all the boons are and tells you what prerequisites you need

[placid portal]

I didn't know it shows the duo boons too lol never even opened the menu lmao

[shy plinth]

There are consistent ways to build that result in very powerful results, but if you haven't done that yet I recommend experimentation and research

Open the codex, go to each olympian, and look at the boon list

[placid portal]

That's.. Actually pretty useful

[shy plinth]

Extremely useful

It lights up during a run with what you have already

[mossy zinc]

Easiest build is probably start for Heartbreak Strike, then take the Owl Pendant in Asphodel for Divine Dash.

[placid portal]

Is merciful end an ares boon?

[mossy zinc]

But Merciful End is very powerful.

[shy plinth]

ME is the Athena Ares duo

It has a very specific build pattern too

[placid portal]

Ares/Athena?

[hallow garnet]

yeah

It makes your deflect boons automatically set off doom

[shy plinth]

You end up with athena on special and dash and ares on attack

Every dash strike is a full proc of doom

It is a ton of damage

[hallow garnet]

since usually doom has a gap between when the doom is applied and when the dmg comes out

[placid portal]

So dash= +200dmg?

[hallow garnet]

if you have athena on the dash pretty much

[placid portal]

I have +3 dashes from hermes im sad now._.

They'll be gone soon

[mossy zinc]

Are you using Ruthless Reflex for Gilgamesh?

Recommended if you aren't.

Also recommended if you are.

[placid portal]

No im using the extra dash

I don't think I'll be able to dodge without it

Can you get dashes from Chaos or is Hermes the only source?

[hallow garnet]

don’t think chaos gives extra dashes

[mossy zinc]

One extra dash from Gilgamesh isn't very much because the dashes are so short. 50% damage and dodge chance from Ruthless Reflex will be up a lot and do more for you.

You can only get more dashes from Lord Hermes.

[hallow garnet]

man I completely forgot chaos can give you extra death defiances

[placid portal]

I saw that for the first time in my last run

One room after buying a dd for 200gold

[hallow garnet]

I mean chaos’s is a permanent dd for that run

[placid portal]

So it's not his legendary?

[lucid atlas]

That was one of my last prophecies to get overall…I literally played 70 runs and never got that option from them…so I tried to grind it by dying in Tartarus until I realized that it is a permanent DD #noobmove

[lucid atlas]

It is a legendary for them

[hallow garnet]

It is their legendary boon. Just becomes a permanent dd that can be replenished by kiss of styx

[mossy zinc]

Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them.

[flat flicker]

Is chaos defiance available when running SD

[mossy zinc]

Yeah.

[flat flicker]

Based

[quartz mantle]

Depends on the curse attached tho

Not taking slippery on Beo even if it gives me a defiance

[flat flicker]

Yeah, for sure

I’ve just never seen it running SD

[quartz mantle]

But in general yellow boon = good

[flat flicker]

I prob should take more chaos than I do

[quartz mantle]

I almost always take a chaos gate if it’s offered

Might just be a Beo moment but the free room is nice too

[flat flicker]

Yeah td3 I do, but if it’s chaos or a god I want I usually take the boon

Boon I want > chaos > random ass boon

[quartz mantle]

Yea it also depends on what you’re giving up for chaos

[flat flicker]

But man, I love me some chaos affluence

[quartz mantle]

Like natural Demeter in tart I’ll always take over Chaos

True!

[flat flicker]

For beo or in general?

[quartz mantle]

Affluence underrated

[flat flicker]

Beo since snow burst super based

I get that

[quartz mantle]

Mostly Beo yea

[flat flicker]

Word

[quartz mantle]

But also I’m like addicted to killing freeze

[flat flicker]

Yeah when I don’t get snow burst I really miss it haha

On beo it’s literally a Poseidon ares duo lol

[quartz mantle]

I’ve ended up taking demeter boons on Rama at this point

[flat flicker]

My controller w back buttons just arrived, do I wanna go right for the 40 or warm up lol

[quartz mantle]

For special or attack

New controller 👀

[flat flicker]

Interesting and worth a shot for me too haha

[quartz mantle]

Use new controller power to accomplish your dreams

[placid portal]

I'm sure nyx or someone else once referred to chaos as "he"

[quartz mantle]

Nah chaos is always referred to with gender neutral pronouns

[placid portal]

It's probably just the German translation we don't have "they" or "them" it's either he or she

[placid portal]

I'm playing on German tho

[quartz mantle]

Oh yea that’ll do it

[flat flicker]

Chaos taught me how to they them pronoun no joke

[quartz mantle]

In English it’s always they/them

[placid portal]

Nice

[flat flicker]

Big brain catch there

Would not have thought of that

[placid portal]

I didn't know until I referred to someone as "it" cuz we don't have gender neutral pronouns and I didn't want to be rude

It's probably ended up being rude anyway lmao

[hallow garnet]

I mean chaos is they/them but

[quartz mantle]

I’ve seen people using “it” as genuine pronouns as like a reclamation thing so idk

[hallow garnet]

they are also the literal embodiment of that primordial juice that the ancient greeks believed made everything

[placid portal]

Primordial juice wth?

[quartz mantle]

Man what

[flat flicker]

[quartz mantle]

Greeks were kinda wacky

[hallow garnet]

greeks believed there was this sort of primordial emptiness before anything was created called khaos

eventually night, gaea and others just popped out into existence one day

And the rest is history

[quartz mantle]

I mean to be fair that’s not far from what scientists believe with the Big Bang now

[hallow garnet]

belief systems can be weird

[placid portal]

Night is nxy ( I think)

[quartz mantle]

There was just nothing

[placid portal]

But who is gaea

[quartz mantle]

And then boom we have things

[hallow garnet]

Earth

[placid portal]

I thought earth's name is gaia

[hallow garnet]

same thing

[placid portal]

Oh wait

[quartz mantle]

It depends on what source you’re looking at for the spelling

[placid portal]

Yeah I kinda see it too now

[quartz mantle]

But typically they’re all pretty similar

Khaos does sound like an edgy 13 year old’s Sonic OC tho

[placid portal]

Oc?

[quartz mantle]

Original character

[flat flicker]

lmao one of my childhood best friend's AIM screen names was khaos666

[vital grove]

I think it's just Kaos without the h in Greek

Wait no that is wrong

Google says cháos

[hardy garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825862916561305643/890417952220934174/91e68e99-1247-49ee-84db-a68206d09911.jpg

i swear styx is cursed

[solar maple]

you're right, there's no h in χάος

[flat flicker]

AP3 quick hack your game

[solar maple]

the thing is it won't offer you a pom there

and if you have already sold your hermes/picked up the hammers those won't be offered

so it's just a heart and boons left

greek doesn't have a letter h. (eta kinda looks like h but that's not at all how you pronounce it lol)

[ashen garnet]

Guess you were using RI0 ? With DF, I usually roll only Hermes and start to roll other Olympians in Elysium (mostly because of EM3 issue), not rolling specifically for HPs and pray for a 2/3sacks Styx

[hardy garden]

guess RI4 ya mean?

[ashen garnet]

oh, missed the non-existent defiances

[hardy garden]

[ashen garnet]

You are in for a wild RNG ride tbh

[hardy garden]

yep

my first boonless 32 win i got a 5 sack

somehow rolled them all into obols/hearts

meanwhile two 40 heats were ruined to 4/5 sacks

but succeeded on a 2 sack

also there were a lot of tiny vermins

[amber jetty]

Vermin just wants a hug

[ripe ermine]

4 sack and losing Patty before EM4 can’t hold me back https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/890652647055581214/image0.jpg

(I shouldn’t have won)

[flat flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/impress-based-american-psycho-very-based-impressive-very-based-gif-21665669

[quartz mantle]

Gaming

[ripe ermine]

Now I never want to fight superdad again

[undone tartan]

What’s more impressive? Every aspect at 40 heat or one at 50?

[mossy zinc]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[elfin rock]

every at 40

imo

[mossy zinc]

m not that concerned with low Heat, anyway.

[elfin rock]

maybe im underestimating 50 tho

[pseudo kernel]

50 heat imo

[undone tartan]

Shut up (/j)

[mossy zinc]

Okay. Never helping you again since you don't want me to talk.

[undone tartan]

[mossy zinc]

Low-heaters these days, smh. No more gratitude.

[pseudo kernel]

rip

[gaunt fiber]

pp man

[elfin rock]

if u do 64 heat it's your free pass out of helping anyone ever again

[pseudo kernel]

what

[undone tartan]

I don’t use tone tags but wanted to be sure that message didn’t come across as aggressive

[gaunt fiber]

how are you these days

[pseudo kernel]

im doin fine

[elfin rock]

not great wbu

[undone tartan]

Me?

[gaunt fiber]

nice

[pseudo kernel]

school started again

so

im dead inside

[mossy zinc]

Bruh, m from the FGC.

[gaunt fiber]

school good

[pseudo kernel]

but hades is fun

[elfin rock]

the what now

[undone tartan]

Idk what that means

[mossy zinc]

Fighting game community.

[undone tartan]

Ah

[elfin rock]

thought it meant something rude

[flat flicker]

sweaty hades smash bros?

zag DLC announcement coming in three hours

or...probably some other characters but i can dream

[undone tartan]

I was about to make that joke

[mossy zinc]

I said fighting games.

[undone tartan]

The age-old debate

[pseudo kernel]

i thought that meant fortnite gaming community

[quartz mantle]

Zagreus in Fortnite

[undone tartan]

Would you consider Melee a fighting game or is that the same thing

[quartz mantle]

Smash is a platform fighter

[flat flicker]

[quartz mantle]

The main thing is typical fighting games are not platform fighters

[undone tartan]

Depends on your definition of fighting game. I don’t personally have an opinion on it tbh

[mossy zinc]

I don't really care, I just think it's funny.

[undone tartan]

Fair

[mossy zinc]

Anyway, impressive is entirely subjective.

[undone tartan]

Very true

That’s why I asked it like an opinion

[jaunty falcon]

Hades high heat strategies

[undone tartan]

Because everyone will have their different thoughts on it and none are correct

[quartz mantle]

Hades high heat opinions

[gaunt fiber]

typical and expected behavior of the channel

[flat flicker]

[quartz mantle]

Imo it's all about if you feel proud in an accomplishment, not what's "more impressive"

[mossy zinc]

High Heat boasting strategies, I guess.

[flat flicker]

Gotta set your own goals

[mossy zinc]

"Which of these two things will impress more people?"

[quartz mantle]

If you feel proud in doing 24x40 then do that

[flat flicker]

Right now how can I get meme beam to clear high heat with the wrong weapon for casts is my thing because I simp for snow burst

[quartz mantle]

I personally don't care enough to play all 24 aspects at 40 so I'm not going for that goal specifically

[undone tartan]

I’d feel proud of either, but they’re both starting to kinda piss me off right now

[quartz mantle]

Then take a break

[undone tartan]

Well I don’t really have any other games rn but I will in two weeks

[quartz mantle]

Have you considered other hobbies besides video games?

[undone tartan]

So I’m kinda just trying to get the most out of this game before I go play other games and lose my muscle memory

[undone tartan]

no

[mossy zinc]

Stepping in Haelian's footsteps, huh? @cedar spire, you have a Crystal Beam apprentice, by the looks of it.

[flat flicker]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/890676051234156574/image0.jpg

Excalibur meme beam that I forgot to turn on em3

[hallow garnet]

When the beam is meme

[flat flicker]

But I got five sacked so call it even

[undone tartan]

Wait if you simp snow burst why are you using Crystal beam and not Hera/Beo?

[flat flicker]

Just because

[mossy zinc]

Because that would be practical.

[quartz mantle]

Crystal Beam Hera

There you go

[jaunty falcon]

I'm probably not going to be playing much Hades in the near future, I just got Eastward, I've not finished skyward sword and metroid dread comes out soon

And also studies

[flat flicker]

Oh damn I forgot about skyward sword

Rn I am playing hades, Star Wars squadrons, hollow knight and god of war

It’s too much lol

[mossy zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/galavant-madalena-mallory-jansen-is-this-happening-is-this-for-real-gif-16036382

[quartz mantle]

Bro my backlog is so bad

I have like 5 games I need to finish but I keep booting up Hades

[gaunt fiber]

It's easy unova

Set a hard goal, burn out, try other games

[flat flicker]

I generally play hades when I have an hour at work to kill

[quartz mantle]

Astral Chain, Hyrule Warrior AoC, Nier Automata, Both Ori games

[undone tartan]

I have like 10 games I want to play but they’re all on PS so I have to wait until they actually make some more of those

[flat flicker]

I did aoc but I got it and hades within a month of each other so I finished it and never played again

[jaunty falcon]

I have too much work

I originally bought Hades with the intent of getting used to a hack and slash game like AoC

[quartz mantle]

55 heat CF0 time lets' go

[jaunty falcon]

Lmao

[flat flicker]

Got a bunch of flights the next week tho so hopefully can finish hollow knight

[gaunt fiber]

haha

great one

[undone tartan]

I played Hades, then Hollow Knight, then Celeste, DS1, DS3, more Hollow Knight, more Celeste, more DS3, and now more Hades in the last 8 months

[flat flicker]

Glad the new god of war has me murdering Norse gods and not Greek I’d feel too guilty murdering Olympus at this point

[mossy zinc]

I don't really any particular goals in Hades at the moment. I guess finish shield bounties on Hell mode? I forgot if I finished that.

[flat flicker]

“New” for a 3 year old game I never played anything in the series before

[flat flicker]

60 heat aphro mod!

[amber jetty]

Blindfolded

[flat flicker]

Flight stick controls

[jaunty falcon]

Sub 6 gilgamesh

[amber jetty]

Voice controls

[undone tartan]

52 heat

[quartz mantle]

I feel like blindfolded would be feasible with someone guiding you

and kinda fun

[gaunt fiber]

cruelty

[pseudo kernel]

ok 60 heat sub 6 blindfolded voice controlled gilgamesh coming up

[amber jetty]

Haelian has done it twice I think

[mossy zinc]

Heaelian and Wriste13 have done blindfolded runs.

[amber jetty]

Although it was on really old versions

[flat flicker]

Use toe macros ez

wait wrong discord in joke

[jaunty falcon]

It would probably be fine using Beowulf or something

[amber jetty]

6 min rta right

[jaunty falcon]

Or Rama special spam

[flat flicker]

6 min igt 5 min real time

ez game

[amber jetty]

Haelian used old chaos shield that had the bloom special thing

[jaunty falcon]

Just travel at relativistic speeds while leaving your PC on earth

[amber jetty]

Imagine aiming

[flat flicker]

What do you mean by old chaos shield

[jaunty falcon]

Pre 1.0

Was a lot stronger

[flat flicker]

What did it do

[amber jetty]

It used to shoot out in a star shape

Instead of a cone in front of you

[flat flicker]

Chaos shield seems kinda crappy now

[jaunty falcon]

And they all bounced around

[quartz mantle]

Didn't the shields bounce a lot too

yea

[jaunty falcon]

Instead of just the main one

[quartz mantle]

You basically covered the screen in projectiles

[mossy zinc]

Fun things for me are like... I did all my rail bounties in Hell mode with Hestia and RI4, or I'll take every Infernal Gate now unless there's a . Things like that.

[flat flicker]

do the hades monthly challenge blindfolded

[jaunty falcon]

Fun Hades runs for me are like "lightning strike Hestia" or "drunken strike nemesis"

[pseudo kernel]

oh yeah i should probably do the monthly challenge

[undone tartan]

Ok for Beo 50 heat, is it better to do AP1 CP2 or RI2?

[flat flicker]

[jaunty falcon]

The first one

[pseudo kernel]

yeah

[mossy zinc]

Also no "no, I'll skip this god and wait for something better." I just take boons from any god and make the most of it.

[mossy zinc]

I actually don't think it matters too much tbh.

[jaunty falcon]

You see, Ares doesn't have a boon with lord Poseidon that makes mirage shot deal double damage

[mossy zinc]

If you can beat one pact, you can beat the other.

[flat flicker]

play smash

once zag becomes dlc

i wonder if you could pick your god or how it would work lol

[jaunty falcon]

We will find out in 2 hours and 40 minutes

If this is the case

[flat flicker]

you think they'll wait to the end to announce the new smash character?

...yeah, they will do that lmao

[quartz mantle]

I doubt they're even announcing a smash fighter

They said the direct is about games releasing in the winter

[jaunty falcon]

They always say that

[mossy zinc]

#video-games

[flat flicker]

Would a smash fighter releasing not count as winter release

Idk

[quartz mantle]

It's not a game

[mossy zinc]

Depends on how cold the character is.

[quartz mantle]

Zagreus but only Demeter Boons

[flat flicker]

Hahaha

[jaunty falcon]

I'm the only one that moved channel

[pseudo kernel]

F

[mossy zinc]

Excellent.

All according to plan.

[flat flicker]

[undone tartan]

I think it’s pretty likely judging from how long it’s been. If they don’t announce the final fighter now, when will they? They’re not gonna do it for anything smaller than a direct, and I doubt they’ll make us wait half a year or more between releases

[solar maple]

bouldy for smash

[undone tartan]

Wait I don’t think I should do EM4 CP2 if it’s even possible not to

EM4 CP2 means Hades has 66K health

I will time out 100% if I do that

[solar maple]

I have bad news for you

[undone tartan]

There’s absolutely no shot I can play Beo fast enough

[solar maple]

it's more than 66k :p

[undone tartan]

What

[ripe ermine]

Ummm he has a lot more than that

[solar maple]

em4 has more health per phase than normal dad

[undone tartan]

Noooo

How much

[solar maple]

normal dad is 17k per phase

em4 is 22k per phase

but the third phase starts not at full health

because he heals

[flat flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragon-ball-z-unlimited-power-over9000-power-level-gif-12316102

[solar maple]

ends up being 60500 health before cp

[undone tartan]

Bro

Wtf

[ripe ermine]

78,650 with CP2

[undone tartan]

I absolutely cannot do CP2 EM4

[ripe ermine]

Before healing

[undone tartan]

I can’t even do that fight in less than 3 minutes with my Beo speedrun PB build

[solar maple]

sure you can

unless the speedrun build was bad

[undone tartan]

I had 8 bloodstones

[solar maple]

mirage?

[undone tartan]

But the time wasn’t too fast tbf

Yeah

[ripe ermine]

Hey ya never know. My latest 50 Beo CP1 was a 4-sack and I still had time

[solar maple]

ok then yeah you def can

em4 dad usually takes about twice as long as normal dad with a given build

[undone tartan]

It took me 40 seconds in my PB and that was with no fear of dying

[solar maple]

if you play equally as aggressively

[flat flicker]

Just use meme beams easy game

[undone tartan]

I’m just not gonna do EM4. I’d be better off with RI2 AP2 no joke

[flat flicker]

Wait no with approval process that won’t happen

Get it however you want my dude

It’s still impressive to do 50 no matter what

[solar maple]

I mean try it however you want, but in my experience with beo em4 is easier than ri2

but both can def do it

[undone tartan]

Well if that’s the case then I’m never doing 50 heat.

Maybe Zeus can do it?

Actually no I can’t

[solar maple]

zeus can do anything

[undone tartan]

I tried like 10 times today and didn’t even make it out of Tartarus once

[mossy zinc]

Any aspect can do 50 Heat. The problem is generally the player.

[solar maple]

best high heat aspect 👀

[undone tartan]

Well I can’t

To be clear

Yeah I know it is

[honest kernel]

ur just gonna have to swallow a bitter pill in any way

best just use the weapon urgood at

[undone tartan]

I’m good with a lot of weapons

But none enough to do 50 I don’t think

Not unless I do AP2 RI2 and grind for weeks until I get Dream luck

[mossy zinc]

Only way to get good enough is practice.

[ripe ermine]

I thought the same but I’ve done 50 with 5 aspects now

[undone tartan]

I’ve been practicing

[solar maple]

zeus 50 is fun because you can just slap on 50 random heat and it's probably a passable pact

[undone tartan]

I play around 8-10 hours of Hades a day

[mossy zinc]

But at what heat, and how deliberate is the practice or are you just going through motions?

[undone tartan]

Mostly at 40 or 45, a few 50 attempts

And at this point I lose almost every run so I’m pretty focused

I’m trying to do 40 heat with aspects I’m not comfortable with

Or 45 with anything which is still pretty hard for be beyond the 5 I’ve done already

[mossy zinc]

Well, if you want to do 50 Heat with Beowulf, you're best off practicing with Beowulf.