#h1-high-heat-strategies | Supergiant Games | Page 304

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:01 AM

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Ok wait, I'll find the screen

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:04 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755802335112069312/824946862922268692/IMG_1660.jpg

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that’s the only way you can get to 50 without AP2, FO or TD3

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it’s gotta be RI3

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

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So This was my attempt with shield https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807672625739858000/824946878998904842/unknown.png

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

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FO1 + no Pl

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:05 AM

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^

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:06 AM

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and my FO0 Rama https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807672625739858000/824946991519236146/unknown.png

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:06 AM

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and that's AP2

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:06 AM

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yeah

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:06 AM

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but no RI3

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:06 AM

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RI3 is fine on chaos tbh

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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you must have been talking about different pacts and i thought you meant the same one

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fair enough

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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RI3 is fine on any Shield, and FO is as well

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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RI3 is not fine on beo

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🙂

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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you’re talking to atticor lol

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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It is squirtyay

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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he’s never even tried cast beo

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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Doom dreadflight shield was a fail, it's not dealing enough damages to Hades

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 AM

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it’s frankly impressive

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

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So I'm trying with a more conventionnal pact atm

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

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I did mirrorless beo and I still played cast LOL

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

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FO0 Rama was doable but I never practiced Twin shot Rama so my placements were bad

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:08 AM

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your attack did at least as much as the Cast

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:09 AM

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my theory for mirrorless is you’re better of focusing on attack

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unless you luck into chaos

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but i’ve literally just done one mirrorless run so idk lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:09 AM

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I got an extra cast

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but yes an attack boon is important

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:10 AM

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yeah just playing until you get a lucky chaos is prolly a valid strat

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:10 AM

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this reminds me, Items don't get used in free rooms right?

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:10 AM

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they do not

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well other than the obvious ones

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:10 AM

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So if you route, instead of Fully loaded go for some Braids and Stones with Hourglass

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:10 AM

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seems legit

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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yes, but the problem is CF2 makes buying them hard

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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oh true

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less legit

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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so you can't really buy boons

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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anyheat is ruining my brain

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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still worth it

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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Braid is 20 base cost, so that's doable

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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and good to route in

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braids are cheap yeah

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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yeah braid is stupid cheap

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:11 AM

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and if you don't need that much else

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:12 AM

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bloodstone is ~90 on CF2 iirc?

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that’s workable

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:12 AM

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yes 90

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:12 AM

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it’s not gonna be some crazy 16 cast route but it’s workable

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:12 AM

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especially for later biomes

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having 4+ casts for dad would be doable and very useful

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and more than 4 is excessive tbh

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:12 AM

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how many combat chambers are in a route? less than 14?

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:13 AM

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surely not

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:13 AM

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if you count styx way more

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:13 AM

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i mean, i don’t know

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but that’s seems way too low

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yeah and styx ofc

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:13 AM

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oh yeah that was way off

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:13 AM

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Last fight is 12th chamber at tart

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22th chamber at asphodel

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34th at Elysium if I remember

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No idea about styx

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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yeah those are correct

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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styx is random

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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for styx each tunnel is 3-4 mini chambers long

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then a big room at the end

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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so 7 combats in styx is minimum

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dad

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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but like with Hourglass the items last 14 Encounters, and with skipping so much it'll probably last from Tart to Heroes?

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 10:14 AM

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Styx is the part where counting isn't necessary

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:15 AM

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I assume this is for max heat? if so you have to choose between hourglass and egg

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without egg taking chaos is hard

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and no chaos means way less free rooms

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:15 AM

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oh true that

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:16 AM

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egg in tart, get two chaos boons, then hourglass after?

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switch to acorn for styx

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but yeah it’s still no chaos after tart

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idk

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interesting idea tho

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:17 AM

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you could just take the damage 🙂

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:17 AM

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just force stubborn roots in the route

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free chaos

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pool of pos/arty/athena/dem is optimal anyway

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might as well pick up the duo

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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you need tooth for it

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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getting chaos legendary to open up stubborn roots

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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oh true

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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massive brain strats

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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forgot you needed tooth

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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or chaos leg i guess

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:18 AM

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that actually might be legit lol

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idk i’m in favour of the route being as whack as possible because it’s hilarious, but it might not be optimal

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:19 AM

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just fyi I'm not making this route lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:19 AM

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very fair

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:19 AM

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I tried some max heat routing

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it's miserable

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:20 AM

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i mean, neither am i

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 10:20 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/624635342116618243/824950800354770954/unknown.png

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rip current, more like easy mode

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:20 AM

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rip current best current

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congrats!

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 10:21 AM

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thanks fists felt way easier than I expected

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but maybe that was bc call spam

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@true fable I tried to go for the blackout build but didnt get it 😔

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 10:22 AM

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yeah i was gonna say rip blackout

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rip current is a good trade tho

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 10:24 AM

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yep

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 10:44 AM

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god damn those witches

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squirtyay

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only mobs standing between me and the big bois league

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nah who am I kidding I'd die anyway

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better try 45

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:55 AM

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witches are the hardest enemy in tartarus

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witches > fury fight > other stuff tbh

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 10:56 AM

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I managed to reach asphodel in 50 heat

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woo

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lol died

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zaglol

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baby steps

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 10:58 AM

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lol

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 10:59 AM

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there are witches in asphodel too

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sadly

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there are in elysium too

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 11:01 AM

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aspho witches aren't as bad

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and elysium witches are ez tbh

fickle heron Mar 26, 2021, 11:12 AM

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that erebus witch with way too much armor is painful as melee. It runs in circles and waits behind corners for surprise attacks

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 11:18 AM

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well there are some things in this game that feels kinda unfair but it is what it is

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 11:18 AM

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using a summon on it if you get it early isn't a bad idea

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 11:18 AM

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after all we are asking for it

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with the high heat

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 11:18 AM

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thing has 1200 armor

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"only" 200 hp, so cleaning it up after shouldn't be too bad

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200 hp is like a lout

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 11:28 AM

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lol the skeleton army that can cast damage control on themselves

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11/10

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I mean the flying skulls

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welp that's it 4 today

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 11:47 AM

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solar maple using a summon on it if you get it early isn't a bad idea

this is definitely the correct choice but i’m too proud to do it

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 11:48 AM

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eh I don't really care about my summons much anyway

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beo is one of the better weapons at killing the witch with no summon too, so you don't really have to

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 11:53 AM

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i’m not too proud to summon on the tartarus miniboss tho, which is completely unnecessary with beo

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might not be pride, just muscle memory

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 11:54 AM

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I always burn my summons on tart minibosses its just fast

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 11:57 AM

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for sure

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the problem so there aren’t enough summons for every miniboss and every boss (minus meg)

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lernie doesn’t really need a meg but that still leaves me one behind

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 12:01 PM

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yeah

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dunno it always kindof works out for me

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I also miss meg on hades like 70% of the time so im not too sad if im out of charges

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 12:05 PM

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i mean, its not the worst thing in the world yeah

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otherwise i would have forced myself to be better organised already

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meg will hit every time if you activate it just as the fight starts

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stripping DC fast enough can be an issue, build depending ofc

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 1:39 PM

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edgy arrow i’m not too proud to summon on the tartarus miniboss tho, which is completely un...

I semi-refuse to believe there's an efficient way to kill Doomstone miniboss with Flood Flare Beo.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:39 PM

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haven't you seen Astaos' video?

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 1:39 PM

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flood flare beo on MM doomstone is pain

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:39 PM

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masterfully played fight

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 1:39 PM

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as a semi accomplished beowulf player

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that arena is CHEEKS

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:40 PM

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but ye you're not wrong

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:50 PM

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I've done it after missing meg lol

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you mostly just want to push it to the wall

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after that it's pretty easy

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so you dash through it, get ready to push it to the wall

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step on the trap

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take 30, interupting your bull rush

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then try again, but the doomstone has moved to far, so you get stuck on G E O M E T R Y

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then you cry

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:51 PM

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damnit geometry

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i took three tries tryna get over a chasm in a mini styx chamber earlier today

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still not sure what happened there

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i could blame myself but i choose to blame GEOMETRY

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:52 PM

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shamelessly stealing kenorah's meme: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523774570394681344/823601655140057138/geometry.png

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:53 PM

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lmao

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:53 PM

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if you don't know that dialogue is from a latt stream

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:55 PM

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is that where complaining about geometry comes from?

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i mean, its true

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/RacyFurtiveMeerkatM4xHeh-KHgOu8GE_8qvcTZP

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Latt_Millard - Sick Irony

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solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

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my favorite clip

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

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oh wait no i've seen this before

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

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it's glorious

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:56 PM

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yeah i knew it rang a bell

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glorious indeed lol

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big mood

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 1:57 PM

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I'm just sad I didn't clip that myself

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I've made some pretty fantastic clips

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dunk's "fast than", bright's "kbm is better for menuing"

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:58 PM

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... i am intrigued

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 1:58 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/wriste13/clip/MotionlessFitLapwingYouDontSay-2zjZFsi3IOhwNxL1

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Wriste13 - Wriste Finally Understands Flurry Shot

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similar energy to latt's

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 1:59 PM

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10/10

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"press the buttons and kind of steer"

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i'll write that down

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:01 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/wriste13/clip/MoistApatheticClipsdadYouWHY?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

not gameplay, but my finest moment

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Wriste13 - how many cents is a quarter worth

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edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:02 PM

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lol nice

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i should prolly find more time to watch streams tbh

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:03 PM

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eh it sucks you in, i definitely spend too much of my time

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:03 PM

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doesn't help that i live in the world's least convenient time zone

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GMT+9:30 like what

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i didn't even know they did half hours

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:04 PM

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where'd that half hour come form

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what witchcraft

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:04 PM

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i have absolutely no idea

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and i live here

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:04 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/ProtectiveBelovedPizzaThisIsSparta

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Bright01 - KBM is Better for Menuing

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solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Australia-states-timezones.png

I hate australian time zones

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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lol

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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wtf

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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yeah that's it

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makes absolutely no sense at all

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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also there's a lot of countries with half hour

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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that's got to make it so confusing to set up meetings and such

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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I'm in my own time zone 🙂

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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Ok that’s messed up

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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technically speaking timezones are split into segments of 20 minutes so really if we truly followed timezones we'd have thrice as many timezones

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:05 PM

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at least with on the hour zones it's somewhat synced on the hour

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i mean yeah timezones in general are garbage and we'd be better off just all using UTC for everything

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but that's a bit of an ask

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 2:06 PM

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I forgot how bad gilgamesh feels 🤢

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:06 PM

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i live in utc

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so heck yeah

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well, gmt, same thing

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:06 PM

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100% with UTC for everything

honest kernel Mar 26, 2021, 2:06 PM

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literally struggling aganist the aspect

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:06 PM

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i'd be willing to deal with going to bed at whack o'clock or whatever for the convenience

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everyone'd get used to it pretty fast anyway

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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i mean a lot of the world functions in UTC, just not the people

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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edgy arrow everyone'd get used to it pretty fast anyway

haha

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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the us won't even go metric lol

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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pseudo beat me to it

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people really hate change i guess

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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eh honestly the metric whinging is not a big deal

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it's all just units

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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The US just wants to be special for some reason

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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the english system is bonkers

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but it's fine

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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metric is more convenient than standard time zones

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:07 PM

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also UK is worse

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:08 PM

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why does US use miles, isn't that a measurement for like oceans and stuff?

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:08 PM

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"we'll say miles, and meters, and STONE"

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UK is the worst

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:08 PM

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miles are absolutely bonkers

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:08 PM

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wait this is #h1-high-heat-strategies

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:08 PM

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ya'll know that the modern mile makes less sense than the roman mile did?

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we literally went backwards

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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~~i didn't even know there was one~~

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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a nautical mile is more than a mile

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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but let's get on topic or go to #off-topic-discussion or something lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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okay but nautical miles lowkey make sense

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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I know but ataino mentioned miles being for oceans

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but that's just a different unit

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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since they're based on the circumference of the world or whatever

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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oki

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:09 PM

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the only problem with nautical miles is the word mile

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they should have called them literally anything else

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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ok have you heard acres being used as a unit of measurement? I know I have all the time

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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yeah

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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do you have any idea how much an acre is?

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I don't

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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i grew up on a farm lol

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yeah roughly

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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like in terms of other units

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I have no clue

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:10 PM

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uhh

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okay imma guess

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like... ~50 odd metres square?

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lets see how much i'm out by

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oof

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i got about double

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 2:12 PM

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HIGH HEAT TALK: rankine vs kelvin go

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:12 PM

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solar maple like in terms of other units

What are other units. Did you know there's a hectare, which is 10 acres? 10 is not a square number

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:12 PM

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yeah

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this stuff's used for measuring farmland, so i've at least heard of it

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:12 PM

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high heat talk

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:12 PM

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i just evidently don't have a particularly good feel for it in practice

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Looks like @gaunt fiber has a secret move against AP2 : Just calling the boon he wants to make it happen 👀

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https://clips.twitch.tv/DifficultElatedPidgeonMau5-_7r1H-e0FV21FvCP

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Astaos - He called it

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edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:13 PM

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he's a wizard

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:13 PM

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did that just happen because he's still streaming lol

spice lava Mar 26, 2021, 2:13 PM

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Aye

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:13 PM

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neat lol

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lucky

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:14 PM

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I called in chat yesterday that if he got Splitting Bolt on Chiron I'd riot. Immediately following that, he got a Zeus room offering into Splitting Bolt.

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RIOT

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:14 PM

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bronze viper What are other units. Did you know there's a hectare, which is 10 acres? 10 is...

it's worse than that

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an acre is not a square number of feet

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or miles

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it's a furlong by a chain

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it's a rectangular unit of measurment

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LMAO

icy acorn Mar 26, 2021, 2:15 PM

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bronze viper RIOT

RIOT

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~~overkill~~

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:15 PM

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wth was people's obsession with furlongs

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:15 PM

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HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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He just got f'ing Hyper Delivery Merciful End Chiron with AP2

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:15 PM

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what

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that doesn't sound real

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:16 PM

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?????

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:16 PM

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are we in a dream rn

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:16 PM

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Astaos strimming right now lmao

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I don't even understand

eternal hare Mar 26, 2021, 2:16 PM

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AP2 is apparently free heat, since the game just gives you exactly what you want anyway

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:16 PM

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that's what I was trying to tell you all after my pos sword run

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:17 PM

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Okay, well, let's back up, no one has "exactly" wanted ME on Chiron lmao. But it still works

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:17 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811259823613673472/824307749524733952/image0.png

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Ap2 is free heat

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Relentless + concentrated

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Deadly flourish

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Divine dash

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:19 PM

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Oh, was this the run that superdad pwned you

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:20 PM

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Yeah

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:40 PM

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I feel like RI0>AP1

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:41 PM

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In... what way

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:42 PM

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DF good i presume

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i mean, idk that i agree

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but DF good

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Yes DF good

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Rolls good

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Helth good

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Money good

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:43 PM

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retrash did RI0 AP2 at 55 for zag sword

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which is honestly kinda indicative that it might be a bad idea now i think about it

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:43 PM

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If I ever do take em4 at 50, I would take RI0 AP2

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:44 PM

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the above run is a bad example anyway

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since you didn't really feel the AP2

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:44 PM

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That'll depend on aspect anyway. Some aspects really need specific boons to succeed

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:44 PM

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True

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But even runs before this, AP2 and RI0 was fine

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Family favorites makes up for some damage that you may lack

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:45 PM

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i mean, ngl i'm very dubious

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but DF is very good

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Yes

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That too

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More chances to get boons that you need

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:45 PM

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RI0 AP2 is also worth 1 less heat than RI2 AP1

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So it's kind of hard to squeeze into pacts when you're optimizing your PB

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I'm sold on RI0 AP2 over RI2 AP1 tbh

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on most weps

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 2:46 PM

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squirtyay

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Its so good

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:46 PM

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I've even been trying RI0 56 heat beo lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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psuedo can't wait for you 59 heat beo win with AP2 were you don't switch out shackle the entire run

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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Nah, I agree, I think it's good, but you're only really considering these setups for your PB heat anyway, and the RI2 combo is worth 6.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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finally did 32 heat nem

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it was stressful

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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nice!

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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yeah you do have to take 1 more heat with the RI0 pact

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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#h1-victory-boasting

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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nem is a very stressful weapon honestly

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:47 PM

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I will never do 59 heat beo lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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your choices are have no damage or have no dashes, and either can mean death

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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~~once~~ if I do 56 I'm probably done

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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i just went with the generic dps route

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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solar maple I will never do 59 heat beo lol

sadge

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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maybe I go for 57

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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ruining my hopes and dreams

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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deadly strike + hyper delivery

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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super fair tho

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:48 PM

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i also got aphro on special in asphodel but never got heart rend despite both of them appearing a bunch of times

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😔

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:49 PM

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AP2 + RI = residentzag

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:49 PM

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even 56 is absolutely crazy

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:49 PM

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I speculated that soft cap for Rama was 57 heat at the beginning of 1.0, and I more or less still believe that lol. I think that's where i part ways pushing that aspect

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:49 PM

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yeah 56 is hard enough haha

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I mean I put the cap for beo at 53 lol

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but here I am

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56 is definitely possible though, my choke showed me that 😦

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:50 PM

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53 is a good cap ngl

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that seems like a more achievable number for me

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:50 PM

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also I know 56 is possible because my 54 run probably could have taken RI2 haha

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but I got quite lucky and played better than usual there

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:51 PM

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that run was super clean

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:51 PM

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and even then losing FF would have slowed me down quite a bit

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so I probably would have timed out

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and panicked + choked lol

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my laptop filled up on storage today

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I deleted so many videos of me dying to dad

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lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:52 PM

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achievement unlocked?

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lol that happened to me a while back

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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eh I have a bunch of garbage on here

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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idk why i have so many recordings, i never do anything worth recording

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but you never know

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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I have a dual boot and 2 virtual machines lol

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literally 4 OSes

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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it'll be the time its turned off that i yolo 63 heat or something

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that's... a lot of OSes

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:53 PM

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yeah don't ask why

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idk really

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:54 PM

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i mean, fair

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:54 PM

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I haven't used the VMs in around a year

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so I should probably just delete them

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:54 PM

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i briefly worked in tech support

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stuff happens

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nobody knows how

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:54 PM

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I think I last used them when I was "researching online versions of textbooks"

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:55 PM

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I get scared when I do my yearly purge of my downloads folder. There are so many things that I have literally no frame of reference for what they are, or why there are so many of

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:55 PM

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lol

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Just glaned at my files

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:56 PM

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yeah its weird how you can feel attached to something that you literally don't know what is

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hmm a folder called "ehhh" bet that's important i prolly shouldn't delete

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:56 PM

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in a row there are blood.png, blood(1).png, blood(2).png, newblood.png, newblood.jpg

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why

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I'm scared

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:56 PM

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uh oh

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digital blood magic

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

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open em up

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i wanna see :)

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:57 PM

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oh lol they were an old pfp

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:58 PM

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ah

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makes sense

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:58 PM

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I guess a few different edits of one

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:58 PM

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I have 10 files called [my_name]Bakery.txt that I stared at for some time before I remembered that I had a sad stint playing Cookie Clicker early in lockdown

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 2:58 PM

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lol

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:59 PM

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ledgerdamayn bakery

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 2:59 PM

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yeah pretty sure i still have two versions of this pfp, one marked "death 2.0" and the other marked "death 2.1"

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they're visually identical

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i have no idea why there's two

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 2:59 PM

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ledger is a baker? dusa

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 2:59 PM

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I have baked. Therefore baker.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:00 PM

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woah

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i'm typing rn so am i a stenographer

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:00 PM

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cook me a cookie, rama user

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I have been paid to create dough

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professional baker

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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that's legit baking right there

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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never mind that it was pizza dough lol

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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still counts

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i think

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idk i'm not hip with baker culture

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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do you not "bake" pizza?

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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I am, obvously

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:01 PM

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^

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

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as a professional baker

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

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spammy's right

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:02 PM

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retired, naturally

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as a professional baker

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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now you just bake beowulf

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bake?

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char

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now you incinerate beowulf

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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hmm I should make pizza

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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beowulf the shield or beowulf the dragon-slayer

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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pizza good

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 3:03 PM

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GEEZ, just clarified with Astaos, the origin of my name is a french word. "Legerdemain"

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Officially [IMPERDABLE]

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:04 PM

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means sleight of hand apparently

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:04 PM

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yeah

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i feel like i've ran across it before

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 3:06 PM

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I got the word from an old Magic card, but there's also the Legerdemain Lounge in Dalaran in WoW

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:07 PM

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oh right that's where i heard it

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"ranged legerdemain" is an ability of the arcane trickster, an old D&D prestige class

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and its in WoW and magic huh

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apparently nerd culture likes this word lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:08 PM

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embracing my greek roots

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:08 PM

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😮

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idk what that means but it looks very impressive

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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oh it's just the greek word that "pseudo" comes from

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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oh neat

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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means ~ false

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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Fixed

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:09 PM

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but it doesn't rhyme now

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damn not a lot rhymes with "imperdable" huh

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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LOL I was thinking exactly the same thing

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/825023726336475157/unknown.png zeus 40 heat first try

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can you tell my heart was racing

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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17 hp

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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woah, down to the wire

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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no sd

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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my fingers are still shaking

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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nice one!

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:10 PM

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look at the timer lmao

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:11 PM

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5 secs left

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dear god

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:11 PM

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yep

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:11 PM

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plenty of time

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 3:11 PM

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My favorite is when you make your own TD2 with DDs + Patty buff lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:11 PM

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never in doubt

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:13 PM

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yeah nothing feels more powerful than the timing running out and just being like "ehh its fine" and just tanking it for like a minute or whatever

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:14 PM

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3dds be like

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:15 PM

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+2 athena DDs and patty on SD is basically the same thing as hacking the game

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that's how i got my 40 heat arthur clear lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:15 PM

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cgull's 50 heat beo clear had that and it wasn't the best part about the build LOL

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:16 PM

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lol true

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 3:16 PM

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1000 hp pool in that hades fight

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Best day ever

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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to be fair

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its EM4

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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imagine having an insane health pool for a category and still choking

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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you can lose all that in like 10 seconds if you really screw up

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:17 PM

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imagine

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oh wait

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shadegrief

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:18 PM

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i choked so hard on that arthur 40

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i've never played so badly in my life

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but i just had so much hp

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:18 PM

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I lost a first run attempt with 250 hp into dad LOL

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:18 PM

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it almost felt bad when i won

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:18 PM

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probably my biggeset ever choke

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and I've had some good ones

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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250 hp isn't even that much tho

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you just think its a lot because you're doing a billion heat

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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250 is a ton for first run

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usually you have like 150

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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oh first run

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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maybe

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max

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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ok fair

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yeah i haven't done much first run

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i would definitely die to hades if i got to him

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i'm so bad at that fight with sword

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:19 PM

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that has been my experience as well

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with 1 dash it's rough

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:20 PM

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for sure

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actually i might try a first run now

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:20 PM

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I only got hit 1 time for the first 2/3 of phase 1 (the harder phase)

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:20 PM

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hoping to get out of asphodel

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achievable goals

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:20 PM

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but then I just swallowed a bowling ball

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 3:20 PM

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In first run getting past Meg takes skill

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Past lernie is easy once you get there

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Elysium is skill + build

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Hades is haaaaaaard

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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lernie is about the difficulty of a hard elysium room tbh

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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i did a few tries a while back, and managed to streak to champions once iirc

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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No surprises with lernie at least

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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but i never put much time into it

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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well once you learn the lernie patterns

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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oh i just realised its gonna be easy lernie

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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You can get to heroes with pretty much any build

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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what a strange experience

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 3:21 PM

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Getting past that needs either ME or sick skills, usually both

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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yeah I need ME for heroes

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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should i take ap2 before ri1 on hestia 45 heat?

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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until then I'm fine

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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what's the process for recording this

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i can't do previous death

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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and apparently I need an act of god for dad lol

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you show file creation

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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creating a new save

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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do i just record deleting my save file

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yeah makes sense

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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to submit make sure igt is on

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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i thought it was an RTA category?

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:22 PM

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igt settings last between files

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yeah but you still need igt on for rta categories

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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oh okay

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fair enough

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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helps with timing stuff

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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celest grail should i take ap2 before ri1 on hestia 45 heat?

anyone?

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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oh hat?

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Idk

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ask a good hestia player

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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who knows

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try both and see if you win

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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my instint would be RI0 AP2 > RI2 AP1

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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im trying ri1 now

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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it’s high heat make your own meta

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:23 PM

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true

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:24 PM

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I'd take Ri before AP2

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:24 PM

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trust lili more than me for sure

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I've never even won a high heat hestia run

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:24 PM

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First run would be more interesting for me if Zag had something better than a toothpick.

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:24 PM

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gotcha, thanks lili

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:25 PM

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that's part of the "fun" nya

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:25 PM

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You can run fresh file with bow, or even rail if you want. It's just slower, but valid

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:25 PM

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also sword is quite fun imo

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fresh file rail would be a bit of a slog haha

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:26 PM

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Fresh file, yeah, but I meant first run specifically.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:26 PM

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but bow/spear/shield are all possible to do in reasonable time

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by reasonable I mean sub ~ 45

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:26 PM

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I like mirrorless high heat, but Zag Sword mirrorless is bland.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:27 PM

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I think it is one of the more interesting zag weapons tbh

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zag spear sounds even more bland haha

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with sword you have quite a few ways to attack/mix up timings depending on the situation

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which isn't as true with many weapons

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it isn't good but it is interesting to me (obviously this is subjective)

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you're just mad because aphro isn't in first run

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squirtdevious

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:32 PM

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Yeah, first run is complete garbage. Worst category ever. zfiestAngry

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:33 PM

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celest grail gotcha, thanks lili

Think I went with something like that at 45 heat when pushing Hestia: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/803537080952946693/825029401855000597/A.png?width=574&height=609

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 3:33 PM

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yeah thats my setup as well

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:34 PM

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So long as you don't take DC, Hestia can pretty much do whatever pacts you want just fine.

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:34 PM

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I'm too bad for EM4, and AP2 can be really disguting

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:34 PM

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okay how in the world do people speedrun fresh file

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just leaving tartarus at 6:40 lmao

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:34 PM

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Shackle Hestia is legit for AP2.

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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Learn the sword, practice, get ME

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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ship’s already sailed on ME

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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rta or igt?

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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looks sadly at my deadly flourish

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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And yeah, I don't like EM4, either lol. But that's a me problem, not a Hestia problem.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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yeah ME is the only real way to go for first run

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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oh igt

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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nothing else has enough damage to fight dad quickly

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:35 PM

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i don’t have rta track set up

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welp rip me

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let’s be real i prolly won’t make it to do anyway

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:36 PM

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ive given up on 6x50 for now

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24x45 instead

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we're halfway there

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:36 PM

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is that even easier?

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:36 PM

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Not gonna be a speedrun, but might as well go for Deadly Reversal now.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:36 PM

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well

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idk

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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Unless you're shooting for the WR, just finishing a frsh file is an achievment by itself, so no real need for an RTA timer

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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yeah that’s my theory

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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yeah not many people have finished first run

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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rta timer is also p easy to set up

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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not tryna speedrun really, i’m just impressed at folks who can

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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and if you finish it's basically guaranteed top 10 fresh file time lol

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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and it doesnt sound like youre too deep into the run

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:37 PM

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lmao

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wow that’s actually like legit incentive

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i feel like it’s doable with some grinding

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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sub 40 is top 10

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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see if i still feel that way after this run ends lol

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:38 PM

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There are 15 runs on the board, you're guaranteed to be top 15 if you manage it under 1h38

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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I try to go vaguely quickly in my runs

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my choke was on 27:xx pace

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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In other words, you can be 16th, ohokwy. dusa

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:39 PM

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not really speedrunning, but not dawdling

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well my lernie fight was pretty clean ngl 👀

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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well

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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mossy zinc In other words, you can be 16th, ohokwy. <:dusa:522248771409543188>

let’s not get ahead of ourselves

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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some of those fresh file runs also arent first runs

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you could do the darkness farm strat

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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yeah that's my point

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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i can be a corpse; that’s all we know for certain

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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if you win first run you beat lots of the farming strats by default

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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I have faith in you.

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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the main brickwall are theseus, theseus+asterius and hades. You really want ME for them unless you're a sword master

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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nah it’s not that interesting to me if i don’t do it in one

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:40 PM

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You can be last on the board if you persevere.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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ive made it to hades a handful of times but i think i need to savestate practice that fight

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god that fight is annoying

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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bright did I salt off to you about my choke yet

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I had 250 hp into dad

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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his spear thrusts are at such awk timings

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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and managed to lose

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impressive I know

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:41 PM

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thats a classic

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fresh file moment

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:42 PM

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true fable his spear thrusts are at such awk timings

If you strafe him, his thrust will miss every time. That's very important for single-dash Hades fights.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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you dont even have to dash right

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Only gotta look out for cast and spin.

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Only gotta look out for cast and spin.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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you dont even have to dash right

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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Correct. Just run.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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so the main issue with sword in the fight is to get real dps with ME you either need to special or dash

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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im familiar with the idea in concept

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:43 PM

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dash can lock you in cd when he does an attack

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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in practice it is hard

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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and special roots you and can get you hit by a thrust

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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do you do the vor slash dash or the full dps combo

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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hm

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idk

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mostly dps combo

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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It's not hard. It just takes practice to feel comfortable not dashing there.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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I find I get hit just as much with the vor thing

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:44 PM

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slash dash feels safer to me

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i teresting

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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Your brain def wants to dash right out of there when you see danger lol.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:45 PM

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with the special you just need to get used to delaying the dash out of it sometimes

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and yes one option is to not really do attacks and just try to attack back when he does a spin and is open

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but that takes really long

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and leaves lots of room for mistakes

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:46 PM

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Best time to go for combos with the Special is always after spins. He has a lot of recovery on those.

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Well, you can Deflect thrusts and casts, anyway.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:47 PM

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nyaanyaa have you considered doing ff

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:48 PM

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Yeah, but I'd rather do mirrorless high heat.

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I finished shield the other day, so I got all weapons 32+ now. Just need to redo Malphon sometime because that was before 1.0.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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not having keepsakes makes the fresh file dad fight pretty tough even in comparison to mirrorless

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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couldnt hurt to get one time on the board

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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fresh file literally is mirrorless

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dusa

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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keepsakes are big

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and no hermes

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and no hammers

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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^

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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make it harder

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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I think FO2 etc. can make the fight a lot harder.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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its a p diff ball game

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:50 PM

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FO2 is rough yeah

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Can always do EM4 if the fight is too easy lol.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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but it is a very different thing to first run

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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at least the god pool is so small, you have decent chances of getting ME

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:51 PM

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yeah always starting athena is very nice

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with ares always in the pool

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:54 PM

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got yeeted by an elite chariot

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ah well, i’ll take it

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round 2

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:54 PM

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yeah as I said elysium rooms are about as hard as lernie

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lol

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was not just saying lernie was easy there :p

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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lol

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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elite swordsmen and chariots are both evil

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:55 PM

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yeah i would’ve prolly been alright but asterius miniboss wore me down a bit

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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yeah he can be tough

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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honestly the biggest downside of having just 1 dash is forgetting that i, in fact, only have 1 dash

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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also just a quick weird fresh file thing: shops can only give you gods you have already seen

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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i keep dashing into danger and then helplessly spamming space bar

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:56 PM

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so try to avoid dio especially to increase ME chances from shops

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also arty, but arty isn't so bad to get because she has good boons

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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huh good to know

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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pp marked can string your run along way longer than it should go

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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^^

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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also is insane v heroes

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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also support fire is surprisingly good

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 3:57 PM

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but ye just dont take dio

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i also avoid arty before ME but

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im not super experienced

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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i have like zero experience lol

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so anything helps

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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Dio cast is very safe, though not optimal for speed

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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last time i took arty special fairly early, i’ll try holding off for ME this time

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 3:58 PM

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ME good

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ME is about twice as much damage as nonsense arty attack builds

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if I had to guess

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 3:59 PM

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yeah makes sense

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:05 PM

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Deadly Strike on Zag Sword is weak because 3 × 0 is still 0.

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 4:05 PM

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true

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also ME is busted

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:06 PM

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okay that’s 1:30 faster out of tart

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Other aspects: What's my damage per second?
Excalibur: What's my damage?
Zag Sword: What's damage?

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:07 PM

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Rama: What enemies?

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:08 PM

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Rama: pew pew pew My Special is gud. Only use my Special.

tidal flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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How does a bow go pewpewpew

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:11 PM

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pew pew pew

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Like that.

tidal flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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Hmmm

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:12 PM

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pew

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pew pew

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There are even variations.

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@waxen relic congratulations on 24×40. dusa

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 4:14 PM

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mossy zinc <@469811780160454716> congratulations on 24×40. <:dusa:522248771409543188>

Thank you zagluv

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:20 PM

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im not looking forward to zag 45

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what do i do

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just farm ME?

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:21 PM

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rama?

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more like delta fire

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:22 PM

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huh

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:22 PM

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I think Passion Dash and Divine Dash are both good starts for Zag Sword.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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usually i don’t get the “FO0 messes me up” talk but it just got me bad

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i think i failed to i-frame every single one of Theseus’ spins

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:23 PM

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i think i may need the ME dmg

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uh

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so with i framing them

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you have to dash in at the exact same time it starts

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its more reliable to just try and dash past them IMO

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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i feel like i do alright normally

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then again, normally i have a shield so idk

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:24 PM

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well its more the 1 dash thing

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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yeah

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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a lot easier to i frame with 2 dashes

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:25 PM

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for sure

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also i had 3 chances at ME in elysium and didn’t get it

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might have been a different story otherwise

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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Not one of the 50+ wins with Zag Sword had ME. You can reset for ME if you want, of course.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:29 PM

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well

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i mean

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yeah

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idk

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i think i'll start divine flourish and take whatever may come

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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Just starting Owl Pendant at all gives you good options. All of her starting boons are good for Zag Sword.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:31 PM

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ye

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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start phalanx shot

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cast build zag sword 50 i dare you

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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Phalanx Shot is great for Cast > Dash-Strike combos.

north dove Mar 26, 2021, 4:32 PM

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the amount of disrespect towards zag sword in here shadegrief

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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Or just Cast x3 lol.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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lol

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retrash cmon

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love you but uh

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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wym i was just playing zag sword

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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your weapon hurts the soul

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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it’s very big in the fresh file meta

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:33 PM

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north dove the amount of disrespect towards zag sword in here <:shadegrief:5204481873586421...

Did you see my post? #h1-high-heat-strategies message

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Just making sure you see it. squirtdevious

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I like Zag Sword more than Nemesis.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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retrash knows what zag sword’s damage is

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idk what it is or where he found it

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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zag sword is cute

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its like a lil toy

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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but he seems to have it

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:34 PM

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imagine having good dps

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this message was sent by the zag sword gang

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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Zag Sword at least is honest and straight up about what it offers you.

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Nemesis lures you with the promise of high DPS but never delivers.

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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true fable its like a lil toy

Pool noodle gaming

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:35 PM

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double edge

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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don’t have dps with zag sword? try double edge! now you can deal no damage twice!

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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bronze viper Pool noodle gaming

Hello, French ledgerdamayn.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:36 PM

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oh yeah turns out ledger is legally french

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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No, you're thinking of the wrong person.

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This is ledgerdamayn's French twin legerdemain.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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ohh

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so easy to get those two confused

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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he also a baker

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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which one is the evil one?

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:37 PM

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Neither.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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oh i get it

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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They're both good twins.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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one plays rama and the other is a llama

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Parlez-vous Baguette

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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Unlike Wriste13 and Rich13. They're both evil twins.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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yes yes breadstick

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:38 PM

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oh i see

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so the evil/good twins don’t need to be in pairs, so long as it averages out to 50/50 overall

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i’m learning so much about genetics rn

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:41 PM

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It's rare, but both ledgerdamayn and legerdemain have recessive genes, that's why they're both good twins.

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Wriste13 and Rich13 both have dominant genes, so they're both evil.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:42 PM

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this "Wriste13" charactar always seemed a bit...suspicious to me...

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:43 PM

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takes notes

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so the evil gene is dominant, so it’s safe to assume all twins are evil

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got it

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 4:43 PM

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how do we know that this "wrist13" is even real?

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:43 PM

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What of the first 12 wrists

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:43 PM

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there can’t be 13 wrists in the world

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too many wrists

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:44 PM

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but what about Rich13

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:44 PM

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edgy arrow so the evil gene is dominant, so it’s safe to assume all twins are evil

Some "twins" are actually one person moving back and forth very fast.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:44 PM

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is he rich?

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:44 PM

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He is.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:45 PM

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how many gemstones does he have?

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:45 PM

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that makes sense because some individual people are actually twins in a trench coat

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Probably fewer Gemstones now that Chourtney knows about them.

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:46 PM

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halcyon flame how many gemstones does he have?

13 obviously

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it’s in the name

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:46 PM

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She turns them into bitcoins.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 4:46 PM

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gemstone NFTs

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i knew it all along

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i knew it all along

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:48 PM

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i feel like this conversation was very productive

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cleared up a lot of confusion

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:48 PM

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This seems like appropriate business

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 4:53 PM

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What did I just read

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Idk but I can sell you an NFT of this conversation for $8,000

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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the convo turned from ledger being french to nfts

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this is what i love about the high heat channel

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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wait this is the high heat channel?

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crap

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thought it was the french NFTs channel

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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dusa

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:56 PM

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Easy mistake to make

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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i do this all the time smh

celest grail Mar 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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#hades-french-nfts

bronze viper Mar 26, 2021, 4:57 PM

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Fungible doesn't seem like a real word

edgy arrow Mar 26, 2021, 4:58 PM

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true tbh

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sounds made up

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Fungibles are magical creatures.

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You can find them in the Forbidden Forest.

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And also at Gringotts.

north dove Mar 26, 2021, 5:07 PM

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wow hadesprofessor got 55 heat on zag fists with JS3 CP2 TD3 and EM4 👀

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everything maxed out but no point in RI

eternal hare Mar 26, 2021, 5:08 PM

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what did his build end up looking like?

north dove Mar 26, 2021, 5:09 PM

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literally just zeus attack + jolted

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and athena stuff for defense

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 5:10 PM

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that's the beo pact I've been trying too (+PL)

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 5:10 PM

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RI0 the truth

solar maple Mar 26, 2021, 5:10 PM

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RI stinky

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 5:10 PM

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DF very good

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:11 PM

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Hey now, you're not setting any mirrorless records with that attitude.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 5:19 PM

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wtf

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@north dove did you watch it

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how did he go fast enough lol

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that sounds incredibly slow

north dove Mar 26, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I skimmed through it but I'm supposed to be working right now zaglol

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 5:19 PM

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me too lol

shy plinth Mar 26, 2021, 5:19 PM

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I thought EM4 was your job

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 5:19 PM

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we need another reporter on the case

shy plinth Mar 26, 2021, 5:20 PM

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I want to be that person but I am literally at work

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:21 PM

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He has two Flourishes and a Lunge from Master Chaos + Explosive Upper. That'll do that.

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 5:21 PM

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ah

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hmm

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zag fists tho

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:22 PM

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Explosive Upper is still very good.

daring hedge Mar 26, 2021, 5:22 PM

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explosive and all those chaos boons lining up for it with AP2 good lord

shy plinth Mar 26, 2021, 5:22 PM

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What's on special

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Nothing. Chaos lol.

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Lightning Strike and Static Discharge both Lv.2 Epic.

shy plinth Mar 26, 2021, 5:23 PM

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Wait empty special?

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Lolol

daring hedge Mar 26, 2021, 5:24 PM

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i guess even without a special boon, with that you can kinda dash-strike dash-special and get good damage

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:24 PM

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I mean it's not empty exactly when you have three Chaos Boons on it.

daring hedge Mar 26, 2021, 5:24 PM

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yeah

ashen garnet Mar 26, 2021, 5:28 PM

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RR is real shadesmile

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 5:36 PM

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RI0 + AP2 > RI2 + AP1

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Ive said it before

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DF is the most op thing in the game

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 5:38 PM

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its p good

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but i like good hammers on some weaps

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stares at sword

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 5:39 PM

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lol Guan Yu AP2.

eternal hare Mar 26, 2021, 6:05 PM

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taking AP2 chaos and actually getting super desirable boons though

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only in my dreams...

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 6:07 PM

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I normally take ap2 chaos

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Especially with RI0

true fable Mar 26, 2021, 6:32 PM

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hadesprofessor is also a legendary giga grinder

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enough attempts and the stars will align

dire steppe Mar 26, 2021, 6:35 PM

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legends say it took him 3234 attempts to get that run

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 6:35 PM

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3234 is the code he enters to get that kind of run.

halcyon flame Mar 26, 2021, 6:35 PM

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unseeded heroic hyper delivery + extremely desirable chaos boons + i don't even know at this point

waxen relic Mar 26, 2021, 7:46 PM

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HadesProf didn't use the Special in the later parts at all.

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He just got away with 3 AP2 Chaos, got at least 3 natural Athena's in Ely including both DDs (First one Shop though), Second Wind, Divine Dash, 2 Witches, 34 Than, Patty two sack of course.. all of that after a early lvl2 Epic Jolted. Did i mention he anviled at least into Sturdy before Dad?

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The more interesting Part is taking Broken Spearpoint into Elysium already.

wintry berry Mar 26, 2021, 8:42 PM

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50 heat Hestia attempt: hazard bomb first room, but I had to choose between midshop and Patty and died at heroes. Good thing: I like hazard bomb on Hestia

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Hazard Bomb is really really good.

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Until it drops on you, and Hades combos with a sweep that pushes you into an urn.

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 8:59 PM

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Strat: pop hazard on yourself with broken spear point to dodge hades damage

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:05 PM

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I like piercing the best on hestia

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Hazard comes in a very close second

solemn pulsar Mar 26, 2021, 9:17 PM

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Ricochet is the best hammer tho

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:19 PM

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Ricochet is a very brain dead hammer imo

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Piercing lets you hit more than one enemy, makes short work of lernie heads, deal with BP enemies better

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 9:42 PM

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Piercing is probably better if you're skilled enough to play it to its fullest

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You should give Eris + Hazard bomb a try if you wanna enjoy what sheer skill is :-p

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:43 PM

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That’s the monthly challenge squirtyay

plush scaffold Mar 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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I know, it seems cursed at first, but it's actually quite powerfull if you're good to dodge every special for 15mn

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:45 PM

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I tried it at 40 and got 4 sacked and died to timer

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Only have one attempt in so far

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It was a lot of fun

wintry berry Mar 26, 2021, 9:55 PM

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I made to final boss, only to die because I panic

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:57 PM

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Welcome to the club:)

wintry berry Mar 26, 2021, 9:58 PM

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/770315207750320140/825126639050293258/hestia_51_panic.png?width=1191&height=670

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last seconds before i got killed

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 9:59 PM

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Oof

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You’ll get it!

mossy zinc Mar 26, 2021, 10:07 PM

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What did you let him kill you for?

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That doesn't sound like a good strategy.

dire steppe Mar 26, 2021, 10:22 PM

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mossy zinc Until it drops on you, and Hades combos with a sweep that pushes you into an urn...

someone’s mettle is shakeable

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best duo smh

shy plinth Mar 26, 2021, 11:21 PM

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BIG METTLES

eager vortex Mar 26, 2021, 11:46 PM

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I barely get thru tart in 50 heat

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reaching hades is good enough

bright mango Mar 26, 2021, 11:54 PM

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It’ll happen!

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Just keep practicing

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:02 AM

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currently trying all weaps 40

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trying spear with achilles

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good choice ?

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maybe I should use hades

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

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Very good with Blade build

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

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aiming for flurry jab

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

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Why Achilles with Flurry?

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:03 AM

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iunno

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squirtyay

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well with hades you can't get flurry

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with zagreus it's special build

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well with hades you can't get flurry

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with zagreus it's special build

shy gulch Mar 27, 2021, 12:05 AM

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flurry jab broken

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that’s why

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:05 AM

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and I'm scared of gy in 40

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so yea

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only option

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:18 AM

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shy gulch flurry jab broken

How?

quartz mantle Mar 27, 2021, 12:18 AM

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Fast attacks

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many attacks = good

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:18 AM

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I mean yes haha but in which build

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Flurry is insane

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Use it for a free win

quartz mantle Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I've seen people mainly go with zeus attack with flurry

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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Artemis is better overall

solemn pulsar Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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well

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zeus is better for high heat IMO

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I saw that in speedruns, but not in high heats

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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But zeus for splitting residentzag

solemn pulsar Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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AOE is good

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zeus duos are good

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consistent damage is good

quartz mantle Mar 27, 2021, 12:19 AM

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I don't like going with zeus start cause it relies on you getting flurry

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Splash dash start is meta rn

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

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Because of AoE getting rid of all immunity shields?

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

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?

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:20 AM

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I always forget the name haha the blue hearts in which you deal no dmg

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:21 AM

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Yeah

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But idk why you would take that at 40

long flax Mar 27, 2021, 12:21 AM

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What do you take at 40?

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:22 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811332258106703892/813945355388321812/image0.png

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My guan yu 40

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This works for achilles

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:31 AM

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does unhealthy fixation work on hades

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I haven't seen it triggering

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it does but short time

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done squirtyay

solemn pulsar Mar 27, 2021, 12:45 AM

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bosses have heavily shortened charm duration

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some people dont like it on them because it makes their attack patterns unrealistic

eager vortex Mar 27, 2021, 12:48 AM

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yes it interrupts the laser attack of hades

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squirtmeh

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which is the easiest to avoid and get some hits in

bright mango Mar 27, 2021, 12:49 AM

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Charm is a good get out of jail free card

half heart Mar 27, 2021, 1:20 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/825177160728838176/20210327021432_1.jpg

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I wanted chaos cast boon or even better - fully loaded (but this boon trolls me - either I got it when I don't need or I have it in games when I lose, like in the attempt before this one)

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But hey, victory is a victory, I was still doing 5k dmg with 3 hunting blades - vicious cycle things 😄